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22/30, made some dumb choices

https://www.mlb.com/news/active-home-run-leaders-quiz

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

27/30

a couple of blind guesses that got lucky w/some of those rebuilding teams

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

24

lol marlins

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

24/30. Got the Jays one right, although I had to think about it a bit!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:46 (four years ago) link

25/30, a few lucky guesses--missed the Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Mets, Rays, and Rangers. Yeah, the Jays was hard.

clemenza, Thursday, 13 February 2020 06:01 (four years ago) link

22/30

i got the cardinals question wrong

;(

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 February 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link

26... perfect until the marlins and then STL NYM and TEX fucked me up

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 13 February 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

25/30. I mostly just went with whoever’s been on the team longest.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:34 (four years ago) link

things i didn't know about macho man randy savage:

Baseball career
Savage was signed by the St. Louis Cardinals organization as a catcher out of high school.[15] He was placed in the minor leagues to develop, where he mostly played as an outfielder[16] in the St. Louis Cardinals, and Cincinnati Reds farm systems.[5] Savage was 18 when he began playing minor league baseball; one of his teammates on the 1971 Gulf Coast League Cardinals was Larry Herndon who was also his roommate.[15] Savage would swing a bat into a hanging car tire as a regular training exercise in order to strengthen his hands and make sure he utilized his legs during swings. The technique was so effective that Herndon adopted it and used it during his own career as a baseball coach.[15] Savage injured his natural (right) throwing shoulder after a collision at home plate, and he learned to throw with his left arm instead. Savage's last season was 1974, when he played for the Tampa Tarpons.[16] He played 289 games in four minor league seasons, batting .254 with 16 home runs and 66 RBIs.[15]

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

Oooooooooh yeeeeeeeaaahh

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Got this from a FB baseball group--I didn't know the answer, but I have a feeling it's a well-known question.

Who played for both the Pilots and the Mariners in their first games?

clemenza, Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link

hint: His son played ~1.5 seasons for the Mariners as well.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 March 2020 19:14 (four years ago) link

You've got it. Also won an ERA title with a not-Seattle team.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 March 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link

I'm trying to remember him in Ball Four, and I think I can just vaguely recall one or two mentions.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 March 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link

The RadioShack (!!!) Trivia Question of the 2001 All-Star Game was: "Who are the 3 players still active from Cal Ripken's first All-Star Game in 1983?"

Can you get it?

— Joe Trezza (@JoeTrezz) April 1, 2020

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link

I guessed 2... but full disclosure I had to check that one of them ever made an all-star game and sure enough that was his only appearance.

No idea on the 3rd, even after scanning the rosters!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

rickey, rickey and rickey

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the other one was my guess as he had a juggernaut career spanning 4 decades.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there have been 4 teams which had 3 different position players put up 7+ fWAR in a single season. what are they?
(hint: obviously one of these teams is the cardinals. sorry. i can also give you the decades for each of these 4 seasons, if wanted)

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 April 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

One of them must be a Gehrig-Ruth team, since there were so many seasons where those two did it.

clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

For the Cardinals, I'll guess it's a Pujols-Rolen-Edmonds team, although I'm not sure if there was a season where they were together.

clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link

Man, I'm good.

I don't think the Big Red Machine ever extended beyond Morgan/Bench, although Rose may have edged over 7.0 somewhere in there, so that's my third guess. Fourth would be the 2001 Mariners.

clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

was thinking one would be griffey/a-rod/edgar but gar only put up 7 once, before a-rod debuted

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link

before his first full season, rather

those three did combine for 24.8!!!!!!!!!!!!! in 96 though

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

didn't happen with the killer b's or bash bros, though biggio and bagwell both had 8+ in 97

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

Not any of those Reds teams either...I don't think the '98 Yankees; they were deep, but I don't think they had huge star seasons in their everyday lineup. Maybe one of the A's teams from around 1930?

clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

the 27 yankees are incredible for this - ruth/gehrig/combs combined for 32.3........ and combs was still under 7

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

Oh--then I was wrong about the '27 Yankees. Combs is at 7.0 on Baseball Reference...and I see now the question has to do with Fangraphs.

clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

spoiler alert

it did happen 2 years later - ruth/gehrig/lazzeri did it with exactly 10 fewer WAR than the 27 trio (7.8/7.3/7.2)

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

what bums

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

Hey, trivia guy, we need two more answers.

clemenza, Monday, 20 April 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

This gave me much to ponder on my morning walk. Possibility, which I will check after posting--wondering if Bonds/Kent/fluke-season Rich Aurilia were in alignment?

clemenza, Monday, 20 April 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link

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mookieproof, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

see thread for example questions

mookieproof, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

(xpost) No on Bonds/Kent/Aurilia, at least on Baseball Reference. '29 Yankees, '04 Cardinals...

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

The St. Louis hint makes me think it's a red-herring, like the Blues or something.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

errr Browns

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link

Hey, trivia guy, we need two more answers.

shit, sorry! i thought i had this thread bookmarked, so when it didn't come up i assumed no one cared about the trivia question. OOPS!

you've got 2 of the 4:

1929 Yankees (Ruth, Gehrig, Lazzeri)
2004 Cardinals (Rolen, Edmonds, Pujols)

the other two are much more difficult. i'll give you two clues, once for each:

1) post-war 1940s league champion featuring a top 10 joe posnanski player
2) while mantle and maris were hogging the attention, this team with a pair of slugging outfielders was...also playing (alex trebek i am not)

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

1) post-war 1940s league champion featuring a top 10 joe posnanski player

evil hint, had to figure this one out through blunt force

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

and i got the last one, mostly through cheating, but i've never really been good with the early 60s.

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link

None of the Williams-Red Sox, Musial-Cardinals, or Mantle/Maris-Yankees teams check out on Baseball Reference.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link

those were my first two thoughts

the second one is 1961 but not expressly mantle/maris, as hinted

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link

and only one of the 2 teams passes the threshold in rWAR

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:17 (four years ago) link

Okay, now I get it--'61 Tigers.

Going through Fangraphs is too much work; is the other one a Williams or Musial team?

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link

nope!

it's really hard. it would be astounding if you got this (or anyone else).

all three of the players' first names are three letters long.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:11 (four years ago) link

and the legendary top 10 player was a 42-year old at the beginning of his MLB career

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link

Ah

Joe/Ken/Lou...?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:33 (four years ago) link

i'd never even heard of ken keltner

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:34 (four years ago) link

Me neither

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:35 (four years ago) link

1) post-war 1940s league champion featuring a top 10 joe posnanski player

That's what threw me: you don't say so, but I mistakenly assumed the Posnanski guy was one of the three players.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link

Keltner's probably most famous now for Bill James's Keltner HOF test.

http://www.cooperstowncred.com/statistics-glossary/keltner-list/

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 06:28 (four years ago) link

the satchel paige clue was kind of evil, sorry

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 07:11 (four years ago) link

i've never really been good with the early 60s.

same here

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 07:11 (four years ago) link

I know Ken Keltner bcz he made a defensive play said to have ended DiMag's 56-game hitting streak

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link

On August 20, 1938, as part of a publicity stunt by the Come to Cleveland Committee, Indians' catchers Frankie Pytlak and Hank Helf successfully caught baseballs dropped by Keltner from Cleveland's 708-foot-tall (216 m) Terminal Tower.[3] The 708-foot (216 m) drop broke the 555-foot, 30-year-old record set by Washington Senator catcher Gabby Street at the Washington Monument.[2]

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:28 (four years ago) link

I know that story but forgot KK was part of it

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

the marlins have thrown six no-hitters

wtf

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

This is probably already a well-known question, and the answer should be obvious because the wrong answer is too obvious: who was the first major leaguer to hit 66 home runs?

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

you mean the first to hit 66 home runs in a single season? so...there was sammy sosa in 1998 of course. but is it answer mark mcgwire (who hit 70 that year), if he reached 66 home runs first? or is the trick trick question that it was sammy sosa, if he hit 66th before mcgwire did? i don't remember

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

^posted from my computer while logrolling down stairs^

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

sosa held onto 66 for 45 minutes before mcgwire caught him

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link

Yes. I'd completely forgotten that--Sosa had the lead for an hour. (Got that from the ESPN documentary.)

clemenza, Friday, 19 June 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link

I'd estimate that the HR leaders this year will have less than 23 HRs for the season. Trivia: When is the last time that happened? (Hint: it was a tie)

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

i think i'm wrong, but is it 1919? my reasoning is that 1920 is the year that babe ruth really broke out in a monstrous way (54 HR?) and the rest of baseball hadn't quite caught up yet. but maybe the year before that?

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link

after that. to clarify, I mean in either league

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

my revised guess is 1981!

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the AL leaders only had 21 that year. Strike season, yada yada.

Armas OAK 22
Evans BOS 22
Grich CAL 22
Murray BAL 22

Grich did it in the least appearances with only 325 AB

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 02:50 (four years ago) link

most HR 60 or fewer games

Player Year Games Team HR

Matt Olson 2017 59 OAK 25
Gary Sánchez 2016 53 NYA 20
Aristides Aquino 2019 56 CIN 19
Rhys Hoskins 2017 50 PHI 18
Troy Glaus 2004 58 ANA 18

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

Matty Olse! I love that

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So which uni numbers have seen the most value in MLB history? Uni numbers, ranked.

(wear 13, cowards)

MORE-> https://t.co/TxU2SrJP1j pic.twitter.com/SDtosahjQm

— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) July 16, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 July 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

why are there 2 points at zero? did someone generate 4 WAR with a uni that said 0.1?

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 July 2020 02:42 (four years ago) link

0 and 00 are counted as different numbers

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 17 July 2020 02:44 (four years ago) link

damn you ottovino

mookieproof, Friday, 17 July 2020 03:14 (four years ago) link

Players to homer in consecutive games for the same team with more than two years between them:

1. Hank Greenberg (1941-45)*
2. Joe DiMaggio (1942-46)*
3. Harry Chiti (1952-55)*
4. Yoenis Céspedes (2018-20)

*Gap was due to military service.

Source: STATS, Inc.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) July 25, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

The starting 4 infield of Vlad Guerrero Jr., @doinitBIGgio23, @BoFlows, and @travis_shaw21 consists of all sons of former @MLB players. This is just the 2nd time in big league history this has happened (Van Slyke, Hairston Jr., De Jesus Jr., Gordon on 6/1/12).

h/t: @EliasSports

— MLB Stats (@MLBStats) July 25, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

just came across ken reitz, a third baseman who hit .260/.290/.359 over 1300+ games, primarily with the cardinals in the 70s. career bWAR: -3.1

best tidbit is that he was the starting 3B for the NL all-stars in 1980 -- a season in which he was worth -0.6 bWAR -- ahead of ray knight and mike schmidt, who hit .286/.380/.624 with 48 homers that year to win the first of his three MVPs. reitz went 0-for-2 and schmidt never got in the game.

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link

i remember Reitz, and possibly ridiculing my Cardinal fan cousin re his abilities

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I'm buying some Sports Illustrateds from a friend to fill gaps; who was the first baseball player on the cover in the '80s?

clemenza, Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link

Either Pops or The Cobra...?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 23 August 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link

You're close in that Stargell shared the last cover of the '70s with Terry Bradshaw (co-Sportsmen of the Year). It was a player who was like turning the page from the previous decade; he would be a name all through the '80s, and provided one of the decade's two or three signature moments.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 02:59 (four years ago) link

rickey on his way to stealing 100?

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:29 (four years ago) link

He got his first cover in '82.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:40 (four years ago) link

Nolan Ryan?

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link

Not Ryan...If you think of the decade's two or three most famous moments, you should get it.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:45 (four years ago) link

george brett

mookieproof, Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:51 (four years ago) link

bill buckner through the legs
the pine tar game
kirk gibson 1988 WS homer

?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:54 (four years ago) link

ozzie smith's NLCS HR in 1985 ("go crazy folks, go crazy!" call by jack buck) is a famous one in cardinals lore, but i don't think it surpasses any of those in terms of fame

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:55 (four years ago) link

Has to be a rookie Gibson. I can’t imagine Buckner on the cover.

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:59 (four years ago) link

Gibson.

KM's three signature moments are exactly the three I had in mind--so it comes down to Gibson or Brett.

Bizarre thing I found out: in '81, SI used an identical Brett/Schmidt cover twice.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tAUAAOSwMnJc9b8y/s-l500.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 04:02 (four years ago) link

Those aren't alternate covers...okay, duh, I just realized; that was the strike year.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 04:03 (four years ago) link

81 strike broke my heart. That is the last run of the Big Red Machine, they somehow had best record in baseball and missed the playoffs. That's so totally Cincy.

earlnash, Sunday, 23 August 2020 06:27 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

You'd think this would be easy, but my first four guesses were wrong: who are the four players who hit HR at 19 and after turning 40? (From a FB group.)

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

Of the four, only one is obvious.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

hmm

guesses:

alex rodriguez

not sure if they played when they were 19:
ted williams
barry bonds

not sure if they played when they were 40:

mel ott

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

A-Rod is the easy one. (So easy, he wasn't one of my guesses...) The other three, no.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

yarg, i missed another kind of obvious one that i almost mentioned (an old schooler)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

Bonds went to college (ASU) so nope.

I was thinking Rickey, Hornsby & Cobb but those are way too obvious so I really have no idea.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

I had no idea A-Rod was still playing at age 40!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

Meaning you checked? Cobb, yes, the only one I got right--I actually don't he's obvious. My joke on FB was that those were the only two homers he hit, spaced 21 years apart.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link

"don't think"

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

barry, mel ott?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

No to both.

A-Rod, Cobb, two more (neither in the HOF).

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link

wait, neither one in hall of fame?

...oh shit! i was thinking babe ruth was an answer, because he played when he was 19. but he didn't hit a HR that year.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

Somewhat misleading--one may end up there. (The other a Veteran's Committee-type guy whose moment has passed.)

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link

ok, I have some time now and I was pretty damn close with my incorrect guesses!:

Rickey: first HR came at age 20, last at 44
Hornsby: first HR came just after his 20th birthday (+17 days), last at age 41

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link

one of my other guesses was close too (KGriffeyJr), but just checked and he had no HRs in his final season as a 40 year old.

I still have no idea who the other ones are.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

One of my incorrect guesses, Kaline, was close at the other end: hit his first HR at 18, his last two months shy of 40.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:22 (four years ago) link

Also guessed Aaron: last HR at 42, first one a little over two months past his 20th birthday.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:24 (four years ago) link

Beltre, another incorrect guess, wasn't quite as close: first at 19, but his last was seven months shy of his 40th. My fourth, Yaz, wasn't close: 44 (!) when he hit has last, but his first didn't come till he was almost 22.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link

julio franco?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:55 (four years ago) link

should have been andruw but alas

mookieproof, Friday, 11 December 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link

Someone else guessed him...no. I'm going out for a bit; let me know if you want the last two (or, it's searchable on Google).

clemenza, Friday, 11 December 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link

The other two (the only time I will ever use this): Rusty Staub, Gary Sheffield. The second might make you think "Yeah, of course"; I doubt anyone would think of the first.

clemenza, Friday, 11 December 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

That was a good question. Had me sifting through my memory banks for sure.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 December 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Most HR under each president

Biden: tied at 0
Trump: Trout 134
Obama: Pujols 272
W Bush: A-Rod 364
Clinton: Griffey 351
HW Bush: McGriff 137
Reagan: Schmidt 259
Carter: Schmidt 152
Ford: Schmidt 87
Nixon: Aaron 218
Johnson: Mays 181
Kennedy: Killebrew 139
Eisenhower: Mathews 313

— Jeremy Frank (@MLBRandomStats) January 20, 2021

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:27 (three years ago) link

i was hoping, and phew:

Most HR under each president:

Truman: Kiner 294
FDR: Foxx 353
Hoover: Ruth 182
Coolidge: Ruth 289
Harding: Ruth 119
Wilson: G Cravath 106
Taft: F Schulte 47
Roosevelt: H Davis 59
McKinley: B Freeman 46
Cleveland (both): S Thompson 85
Harrison: H Stovey 51

Who will lead Biden’s?

— Jeremy Frank (@MLBRandomStats) January 20, 2021

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

Juan Soto

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

That's neat...Best matches: Ruth/Hoover (roaring '20s), Griffey/Clinton (harder to explain...dot.com boom, home-run boom). Weirdest pairing: McGriff/H.W. Bush.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 08:28 (three years ago) link

Crime Dog : War Criminal

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

My guess for Biden: Acuna

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I found this fun, hope you will, too!

Longest gap between plate appearances in batter vs pitcher matchup since 1990:

6,233 days: Gary Sheffield vs Roger Clemens

Faced each other on July 25, 1990 (MIL/BOS)

Next time they faced off? Aug. 18, 2007 (DET/NYY)

(h/t @EliasSports)

— Sarah Langs (@SlangsOnSports) February 10, 2021

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

Interleague didn't start until 1997

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

...so I feel like that anything prior and after should be treated as Different Times.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

Fact is still fun motion denied

, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this was posted to reddit, thought i'd share here:

There's a group of six players who all have something that only they have in common. I'll give you five of them, you try to answer with who the sixth player is and what it is they share.

Hank Aaron
Barry Bonds
Rickey Henderson
Mickey Mantle
Jim Thome

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

First thought was "power/speed?" Nope, Thome doesn't fit. "Late-career accomplishment?" Mantle doesn't fit.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

so - if it helps the 6th person is Lance Berkman

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link

I looked, still no idea.

clemenza, Saturday, 27 February 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

Has to do with home runs

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

I feel like there are some edge cases having to do with switch-throwers but I'm too lazy to look up the #s rn lol.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 February 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

You’re close!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

Haha, no I saw the answers but felt like the list was incomplete because it doesn't include such edge cases^^.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 28 February 2021 04:08 (three years ago) link

I looked at the Reddit thread. I could have sat here for five years and not figured that out--an easy concept, but the kind of lateral thinking I'm not great at.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 February 2021 16:35 (three years ago) link

I’m terrible of keeping track of who’s right or left and would have never gotten it.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

I was doing one of those Sporacles (still around)...Only franchise without a 200-hit guy?

clemenza, Thursday, 27 January 2022 03:29 (two years ago) link

Must be one of the more recent expansion teams ... Diamondbacks?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 28 January 2022 08:30 (two years ago) link

Yes, but not them--Luis Gonzalez had ~210 hits one year.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

That one was so popular, let me try another. It's a long answer...Posnanski has a piece today that lists the HR leader for each letter in the alphabet. As an example, the easy first one: A = Aaron.

If you try it, here's a link to the piece where you can check your answers:

https://joeposnanski.substack.com/p/all-time-homer-leaders-by-letter?r=1jtu0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link

i am ready to humiliate myself, going with my gut, no googling, 5 minutes or less

B is for bonds
Canseco
Dimaggio?
E
F
Gehrig
Hodges
I
Jackson
Killebrew
L
Mays
N
Ortiz
Pujols
Q
Rodriguez
Sosa
Thome
U
V
W
X
Yount
Zobrist

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link

ugh, so many obvious names now that i look at the list, haha.

zero N position players in the hall of fame!

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link

There's a good joke in Posnanski's piece having to do with your 'R' guess.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

xpost

lol at me getting R wrong, too. 5-year-old me is astonished that i was wrong on this

reading through the piece now

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link

Having said that, your guesses are better than mine would have been.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link

full circle, speaking of N's not in the hall of fame, I think graig nettles might be a good example of a guy who played with too many different teams

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:19 (two years ago) link

i guess, looking at his (fangraphs) stats more closely, a lot of value was derived from his superior defense at 3B, while the offense was merely consistently above average. HOF voters seem to discount that pretty commonly

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:20 (two years ago) link

Nettles did play for a lot of teams, more than I would have thought (6). Not sure if that'd be a factor with him, though; his identification with the Yankees is pretty strong (and his years there far outnumber anywhere else).

When Tracer posted something on another thread suggesting he'd always identify McGwire with the A's, I was surprised when I checked and saw that, indeed, such a high percentage of his games were played in Oakland (1329/1874). Shows how much he did, and how much press he got, during his St. Louis tenure.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:25 (two years ago) link

re: that list my only humiliation is that I couldn't think of anyone for W

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:26 (two years ago) link

I'm just glad you guessed the right Willie M. for M.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link

(And I don't mean McCovey...)

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link

there are many good M options, it turns out

mccovey, mcgwire, mantle...I thought about Murray and Mathews too!

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:34 (two years ago) link

musial too, as the link points out

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:35 (two years ago) link

i think harmon killebrew was kind of my grade school baseball flex. no one i knew had any clue who he was. i'd be like, "yeah, 573 home runs. that's FIFTH all time", and they would just kick me in the balls so hard

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link

My favourite thing in the whole piece, right up there with Prince and Cecil tied in HR and Griffey/Musial's birthplace:

H: Ryan Howard, 382; Frank Howard, 382

This is definitely my favorite letter. It thrills me that two gigantic men named Howard, playing in different times and different places, climbed and climbed and, in the end, met at the top of Mount H.

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

“D” surprised me!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

My reflexive guess was DiMaggio too, even though I knew he was under 400.

For what it's worth, the previous answer was the Rays: Aubrey Huff's 198 hits is the most in franchise history. Here's the Sporacle:

https://www.sporcle.com/games/smyth/mlb_hit_leaders_by_team

I missed five or six.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:50 (two years ago) link

Oops, wrong Sporacle:

https://www.sporcle.com/games/Ben/ss_team_hits_leaders

clemenza, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:51 (two years ago) link

Jesus the barves have a record on the books from 1894!!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 30 January 2022 06:08 (two years ago) link

Haven't had a chance to try/read, but Joe. P's most-pitcher-wins by letter:

https://joeposnanski.substack.com/p/most-wins-by-letter?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 15:35 (two years ago) link

The three 300-game winners I guessed were all wrong.

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

I was a surprise!

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

the letter "I"

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

i was a surprise, it's a me, mario!

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

I love the gap between #1 and #2 for the Ys.

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:36 (two years ago) link

trying to think of who would be #2 there...chris young? it would help if i could think of a single non-Young Y pitcher.

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link

YES

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link

That's amazing...I probably would have guessed Yastrzemski.

clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

i got 12 of those. very proud of getting "I"!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:23 (two years ago) link

one to ponder:

what was the last team that had more triples than home runs in a full season?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 04:59 (two years ago) link

had to be pre-deadball...
maybe the Cobb/Crawford/Heilmann(? not sure if all three played together) Tigers?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 05:23 (two years ago) link

post-deadball! i was kinda shocked

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 05:25 (two years ago) link

it's post-expansion, even

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 05:26 (two years ago) link

like post-most-recent-expansion?! i might have guessed the 80's at some point. i know there was one year where Rollins and Reyes both had a shitload of 3b, but i don't see either of those teams having fewer HRs. just trying to think of modern teams that were known for speed and not-much power... Royals from about7 years ago comes to mind...

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 05:57 (two years ago) link

this is what i'm doing now instead of sleeping

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 05:57 (two years ago) link

ok, post...1977 expansion

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 05:59 (two years ago) link

KM's question, so I'm going to guess the '85 Cardinals.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:00 (two years ago) link

ah 80's! that's a good guess. put it up on the board!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:04 (two years ago) link

Close, but not quite: 59 triples, 87 home runs.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:05 (two years ago) link

They had more wins (101) than HR, that might be unusual.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:06 (two years ago) link

sorry for trivia overload, but i just learned the SFG almost moved to toronto! while reading up on h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Major_League_Baseball_expansion :

On January 9, 1976, the National Exhibition Company, owners of the San Francisco Giants, established an agreement in principle to sell the franchise to a consortium owned by Labatt Brewing Company, Vulcan Assets, and the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce for C$13,250,000.[11] The Giants had failed to repay a US$500,000 loan from Major League Baseball, and had experienced declining revenues since the relocation of the Kansas City Athletics to Oakland in 1968.[11] Of the sale price, US$5,250,000 was to be placed in escrow to "meet certain possible obligations with respect to the transaction", especially the lease of Candlestick Park, which would expire in 1994.[11]

The new owners of the Giants, led by Don McDougall, would move the team to Toronto pending approval from the other eleven National League teams, which would be sought on January 14 at the Winter Meetings of General Managers in Phoenix. The team would be known as the Toronto Giants[11] and would begin play during the 1976 Major League Baseball season. The deal was scuttled by a Superior Court of California, which issued an injunction blocking the sale on February 11, 1976; the injunction was requested by the city of San Francisco on January 10.[13] The National Exhibition Company eventually accepted a purchase proposal from Bob Lurie in a deal brokered by George Moscone, the Mayor of San Francisco.[13]

The American League provided an opportunity for a Toronto franchise, and two groups bid for the rights to franchise ownership in the city.[10] Ultimately, an ownership group named Metro Baseball Ltd. consisting of Labatt Brewing Company, the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, and Imperial Trust won the bid for a franchise fee of C$7,000,000.[7][14][15][12]

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:07 (two years ago) link

xpost

clemenza, your instincts are good regarding the cardinals, as i learned about this Triples > HR season while watching this 1991 game tonight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uie2bTBErw8

but no, it's not the cardinals. the 1991 cardinals team did come close to achieving the feat, however, with 53 Triples and 68 Home Runs

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:09 (two years ago) link

i'm going to be very sad when i run out of random old baseball games on youtube to watch

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:10 (two years ago) link

answer to the triples > HR question:

1979 astros

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 06:55 (two years ago) link

I was sure it was the '85 or '87 Cards, and if not them, one of those late 70's or early 80's Royals teams? I wasn't close to thinking of the right answer, but having seen it then of course it makes perfect sense.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 5 February 2022 07:25 (two years ago) link

shows how much has changed, i guess. 85/87 cards were too early for me to have but the fuzziest memories of, but i remember the (also extremely weak) '91 cardinals so well, watching every single game i could. now, it's kind of unfathomable for a team to have more triples than HRs.

just checking for 2021, the highest ratio of triples to homeruns was...

overall for baseball (2021), there were 671 triples and 5,944 HRs, for a 0.113 ratio.

the pirates came in highest (or worse), with 35 triples vs 124 HRs (.282). ARI was next highest, with 31/144/.215.
on the other side, the blue jays had only 13 triples vs 262 HRs, putting them at 0.050.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

Checked a few early HOF'ers (Cobb, Speaker, Sam Crawford) and, as expected, they all had more career triples than HR--many more. I suppose that, on a timeline of when they played, Ruth was the first HOF'er with the reverse.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

i know it's impossible, but i wish there was crystal clear, HD footage of one game of 1890s-era baseball. the spitball, drinking and smoking, the murder of the home plate umpire, everything

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

Rod Carew has to be the last HOF'er with more triples than HR (119-92). Gwynn, Boggs, and even Ichiro all had more HR.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link

Gwynn and Boggs weren't know for speed tho. Thinking to the "hall of very good", no one comes to mind for me. i checked Lofton and he was also HR>3b

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link

tim raines
113 triples, 170 HRs

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

oh wait, I KNOW

THE WIZARD

69 triples, 28 HRs (and every single one of those the best moment of the day)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

Great! Should have thought of him. He'll surely be the last, unless there's some sea-change. My first guest, by the way, was only half-a-century off: Paul Waner, who retired in '45. Then I found Nellie Fox, then Carew.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 February 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

"He'll surely be the last"

see, i doubt that! i think of billy hamilton, especially - someone who would be so valuable, considering his speed and defense, that he could be HOF worthy - if ONLY HE COULD HIT AT ALL! but i can easily imagine someone like him coming along that is an above-average contact hitter with zero power and just flies around the bases

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 20:17 (two years ago) link

however, it should be noted that i'm always rooting for this kind of player to exist, even among minor league prospects i follow. i think it's the most identifiable kind of player to me

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link

or relatable, i meant

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link

juan pierre: 94 triples, 18 homers

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 February 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link

Brett Butler 131:54

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

Willie Wilson: 147:41

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link

but hall of famers, no

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

though i guess butler and wilson came a lot closer than i thought!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

I don’t think either got many votes.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 February 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

That's it--there'll be lots of players who do it, but I just don't see anyone who'll be HOF-bound. If you don't hit at least a few homers today--10+ a season, say--you have to do a whole bunch else well to keep a job: hit for a high average, get on base a lot, not strike out, steal bases, play a key defensive position well. To end up in the Hall, you'd have to do them exceptionally well.

Having said that, Ichiro came very close: 96 triples, 117 HR. If his career hadn't partly been spent in the PED era, maybe those numbers would be reversed.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 February 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link

with ichiro, there's also the 1992 (?! - amazing to imagine him playing pro in 1992, at 18) to 2000 stats, where he was hitting 15-25 HRs a year while usually putting up around 5 triples or so per year.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 February 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link

also one sort of gets the sense that ichiro *could* have hit more homers if he'd wanted to -- he just didn't bother

i mean, not really, but still

mookieproof, Sunday, 6 February 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link

They always said the same thing about Carew and Boggs, too (don't remember specifically hearing it about Gwynn). Carew had a couple of years where he hit 14, Boggs had his big year with 24 (a huge HR year across both leagues, it should be pointed out), and Gwynn got up to 16 and 17 late in his career (same caveat: outset of the PED era). Who knows?

clemenza, Sunday, 6 February 2022 02:42 (two years ago) link

I’m trying to think of what active players have succeeded the best with a 3b>hr ratio. Jarred Dyson is the only guy that comes to mind, but I’m sure there’s a better example.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 6 February 2022 05:44 (two years ago) link

Posted those two questions in a FB group, and someone responded with this piece:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29222915/tim-kurkjian-baseball-fix-hard-believe-history-triple

clemenza, Sunday, 6 February 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

In 1943, Stan Musial had 20 triples and 18 strikeouts.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 February 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link

By the way: I was looking at the '79 Astros, and they didn't have a single player hit 10 or more HR. Has that been done since? They had a winning record, too. And two players who were at the opposite ends of player evaluation in the earliest Abstracts: Jose Cruz (sabermetric hero) and Enos Cabell (sabermetric villain). And, except for walks--a big "except," I know--their '79 batting lines were virtually the same.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 February 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

Jayson Nix was a blue jay?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 6 February 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Most times retired by each given fielder, MLB history:

𝙱. 𝚁𝚘𝚋𝚒𝚗𝚜𝚘𝚗
𝙱𝚘𝚐𝚐𝚜 𝚈𝚘𝚞𝚗𝚝

𝙰𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚒𝚌𝚒𝚘 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎
𝙿𝚞𝚓𝚘𝚕𝚜 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎 𝚈𝚊𝚣
𝙰𝚊𝚛𝚘𝚗

— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) March 10, 2022

the wording of this is a little unclear, but for example, this means that albert pujols has hit into more outs to 3B than any other player. interesting that hank aaron popped out to catcher so much! (also, of course, he had a hell of a lot of PAs, as did rose...all these guys did, obv)

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Friday, 11 March 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

you know it had to happen.... interestingly doesn't include WAR as a category

WARdle #3 - 4/8

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⬜⬜🟩⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

https://wardle.app

, Saturday, 12 March 2022 20:59 (two years ago) link

lol of course. (got it on my 8th try)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 12 March 2022 22:16 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

NL starting lineup, 1969 All-Star game (with manager, no pitcher):

https://phildellio.tripod.com/lineup.jpg

I got the three obvious ones plus one more, then accidentally looked at the list of names before trying any more. I think I would have got 7 or 8 out of the 9.

clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

Here are the answers, you can check them yourself: Red Schoendienst, Matty Alou, Don Kessinger, Hank Aaron, Willie McCovey, Ron Santo, Cleon Jones, Johnny Bench, and Felix Millan.

clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

i don't know the answer to this, but what is the team (which team, which year) that had the most hall of famers on the roster at the same time? I'm assuming the 1927 yankees are way up there. But what about the modern era? is it some 90s or early 2000s yankees team?

current cardinals team has about 3. pujols (100% hof), yadier molina (98%, i am not saying he deserves it, please don't throw things at me), arenado and goldschmidt (i can imagine both making it, i can imagine neither one making it. let's say one of them makes it), and wainwright (i think he still has very little chance, but if he did manage to put in a couple more strong years before retiring, he might have a veteran's committee chance in like 40 years)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 01:43 (two years ago) link

These are the some of the teams I'd check:

'27 Yankees
'30 A's
'41 or '47 Yankees
'55 Dodgers
'67 Cardinals
'70 Orioles
'75 Reds
'98 Yankees

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:05 (two years ago) link

'98 yankees are surprisingly light! jeter and a late-career tim raines on the batting side, only rivera on the pitching side, i think? in addition to those three, they had kind of astounding number of hall of the very good kinds of players - david cone, david wells, paul o'neill, bernie williams, knoblauch, strawberry

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:24 (two years ago) link

'55 dodgers seem to have 6:

jackie robinson, duke snider, campanella, pee wee reese, and now gil hodges. only one pitcher (a young koufax) unless you also count nutrition shake expert tommy lasorda

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:26 (two years ago) link

The most I found was the '55 Dodgers with seven: Robinson, Campanella, Snider, Reese, Hodges, Koufax, and, with 4 GP and zero PA, Tommy Lasorda (Walt Alston would make eight, plus one or two in the front office, probably). But the real answer, according to a Reddit thread, is nine:

1) "The Yankees from 1928 had 9 HoFer's: Earle Combs, Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri, Babe Ruth, Bill Dickey, Leo Durocher, Waite Hoyt, Herb Pennock, and Stan Coveleski. Their manager Miller Huggins and President Ed Barrow are also inductees."

2) "It's the 1931-33 Yankees with nine: Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Red Ruffing, Bill Dickey, Joe Sewell, Tony Lazzeri, Herb Pennock, Lefty Gomez and Earle Combs."

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

Yeah, even the best modern teams seem to max out at three or four, with lots of borderline guys who missed.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link

'75 reds (3) joe morgan, johnny bench, tony perez. no pete rose, because betting on baseball is not allowed in stadiums that do not have official partnerships with daily fantasy baseball betting

'70 orioles (3) frank robinson, brooks robinson, jim palmer

'67 cards (4) orlando cepeda, lou brock, steve carlton, bob gibson (cepeda and brock probably should not be in the HoF. tim mccarver and curt flood probably both should be, for non-playing reasons. I feel like mccarver had a 50% hall of fame playing career and a 75% broadcasting career, and his longevity and counting stats put him over the bump)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:36 (two years ago) link

(it's very possible i'm miscounting on some of those - just scanning the rosters and going off of memory)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:37 (two years ago) link

Same numbers I had, I think. The Orioles really surprised me--they only won one WS, but from '69 to '71, they were as good as it gets.

The mid-'90s Braves have four (the big three starters plus Chipper), and could easily end up with six (McGriff and Andruw Jones).

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:43 (two years ago) link

I’m not sure how easy McGriff and Jones will be.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:53 (two years ago) link

Jones, maybe, but I agree with Posnanski that Baines' induction makes McGriff's a certainty next time he's eligible.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 03:08 (two years ago) link

"McGriff will surely be elected by a veterans committee the very first year he is eligible.

He has to be elected by the veterans committee. I mean, you simply cannot vote for Baines and not vote for McGriff. It would be like voting for a Jack in a game of poker but not voting for a King. Baines and McGriff were both left-handed power hitters who played for a very long time and posted wonderful career numbers...it’s just that McGriff was better than Baines in just about every way."

https://theathletic.com/2276390/2020/12/22/the-outsiders-no-23-fred-mcgriff/

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 03:17 (two years ago) link

Letting baines in opens the door for literally hundreds of players. I can’t make much sense of a lot of the things they do, so I don’t feel like any player is a lock with these guys. For sure McGriff is better, but does it matter tho them?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2022 05:11 (two years ago) link

Yeah, electing baines was like eliminating the filibuster

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 26 May 2022 05:24 (two years ago) link

You could project a bit (a lot) with the 2019 Astros: Altuve, Correa, Verlander, Cole, and Greinke.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 26 May 2022 08:40 (two years ago) link

I'm not totally sure why he zeroed in on McGriff--their careers weren't aligned on a timeline, and McGriff only DH'ed ~200 games--but maybe their reputations figured in: good guys who weren't PED users.

I think the Astros would have produced a few for sure, it'll just be a matter of how the scandal is viewed down the road for the hitters.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:00 (two years ago) link

Pujols' 3000th game had me looking at the career-leaders list...If you assume that Players A, B, and C would be in the HOF if not for PEDs; that Player D would be in if not for his fondness for playing the lottery, and that Players E and F will sail in, there are only two guys in the Top 30 who aren't in the HOF and aren't going in, either. Both are post-WWII.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 June 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

1. Although half of all MLB commissioners have been lawyers, who was the only commissioner to have served on the bench as a judge?

2. What American League owner and labor lawyer made his fellow owners crabby when he declared during the 1994-95 baseball strike that he would not field a team with replacement players?

3. Name the third-year law student who, in 1978 accepted an offer to manage in the minor leagues after graduation, saying he'd "rather ride the buses in the minor leagues than practice law for a living." Though not all his decisions have been uncontroversial, this one worked out, as he became a major league manager later the following year and went on to win three World Series.

4. With great concern for judicial comity, Senator Chuck Schumer asked this Supreme Court nominee, a Mets fan, whether they would be able to get along with another Justice who was a noted Yankees fan. Name both Justices.

5. "Kranepool flies to right. [REDACTED]."

Thus read an apocryphal note passed to Justice Potter Stewart during oral argument. Ed Kranepool did not in fact fly to right that day, and an actual note from a clerk to the justices placed what political news—redacted above—ahead of a score of Mets 2, Reds 0 in the deciding game of the National League Championship Series.

6. According to a 2009 essay in The Baseball Research Journal, baseball was the most referenced sport in federal and state judicial opinions in the previous century or so. What sport, perhaps more associated with the executive branch, was the second most referenced?

7. In 1944, Jackie Robinson was brought to trial on charges stemming from his refusal to move to the back of a bus in Texas, but unlike Rosa Parks just over a decade later, he did not face his charges in a state court system. In what type of court system was he charged?

8. While many categorized 1995-era replacement players pending settlement of the strike as "bush league," "bushier eyebrows" were cited in newspaper reports as a distinguishing feature of the 2020 evolution of what major league mascot, pending settlement of a copyright lawsuit?

9. Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred left the law firm of Morgan, Lewis & Bockius in 1998 to work for Major League Baseball, which was one of its clients. What other — arguably more valuable — asset did the firm transfer to its client two years later?

10. Congratulations, you've just gotten a federal appellate clerkship! Not only are you off to a great start for your legal career, but you're also working somewhere where you can attend big-league baseball games. Unless, that is, you're in one of the two circuits whose seats are not the home of a major league team. In one of these cities, you can at least go see the Flying Squirrels of the AA Eastern League, but the other city lost its AAA Baby Cakes after the 2019 season. Name either city.

11. In arbitration, when a panel of arbitrators is unable to reach an agreement on an issue, they may submit the issue to an independent party to resolve it. What is the title used to refer to such an individual?

12. A legal appeal, unlike checked swing appeals and replay reviews, generally consists of a review of the application of law to facts, rather than a review of the facts themselves. What baseball procedure, abolished in 2020, took place "when a manager claims that an umpire's decision is in violation of these rules"?

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:18 (two years ago) link

i got seven right : /

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:19 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Don't answer if the same list showed up on your FB feed...Rickey Henderson is #1 on the list of most times on base (H + BB + HBP) in the '80s (both leagues). Who's #2

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 01:56 (two years ago) link

First guess would be Boggs but his career only started in '82, so it's probably someone who played more throughout the decade. Ripken or Yount?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 August 2022 08:18 (two years ago) link

schmidt?

mookieproof, Friday, 26 August 2022 13:04 (two years ago) link

None of them (Boggs #4, Schmidt #9, Ripken lower). The answer surprised me: someone who many (me included) think should be in the HOF but isn't. American League outfielder.

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link

My first thought was Tim Raines.

Willie Randolph??

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 14:53 (two years ago) link

Good guess on Randolph: 10th. (Raines 8th--might have guessed higher.)

Here's the answer if anyone wants to peek: Dwight Evans. Only 53 times-on-base behind Henderson.

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

where is willie wilson on the list?

mookieproof, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

Ripken is 18th (and last) on the list with 1,971--I added up Wilson's totals, and he's presumably next with 1,967. Not too fond of walks...

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link

Evans being only a few dozen behind Henderson is kind of amazing. Respect to Dwight Ev.

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

Was gonna do Dwight E. but didn’t want any confusion

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

Full list:

1. Henderson
2. Evans
3. Murray
4. Boggs
5. Murphy
6. Yount
7. Hernandez
8. Raines
9. Schmidt
10. Randolph
11. Whitaker
12. Brett
13. Trammel
14. Ozzie
15. Baines
16. Winfield
17. Downing
18. Ripken

clemenza, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:26 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

who is the only player in the career top 10 for HRs and Doubles?

bonus: who is the only other player in the top 15 for the same categories?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:17 (two years ago) link

bonus: who is the only other player in the top 15 for the same categories?

change to: "who are the only other two players in the top 15"

(i was manually checking for this and knew i'd fuck it up sorry)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

I guessed Pujols for top 15 and Ortiz for top 15, I always remember those dudes who were ripping 45+ doubles the same season they were hitting the same number of HR. Not sure on the second top 15.

omar little, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link

Sorry pujols top 10!

omar little, Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link

Aaron? Palmeiro in Top 15 for both?

clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

god, i have really fucked this up, big time. i am unable to complete basic comparative tasks.

Pujols: 5th in HRs, 5th in doubles
Aaron: 2nd in HRs, 13th in doubles

I thought Ortiz made the cut, but he's at 17th for HRs, 12th in doubles
Palmeiro is a good guess! he falls short in doubles (21st) but is 13th in HRs

Karl Malone, Saturday, 10 September 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I can’t be bothered to frame this as trivia - but I only just now learned that Lonnie Smith once bought a gun with the intention of shooting his ex-manager!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link

"Besides having a reputation as an erratic, reckless left fielder, how else did Lonnie Smith display erratic and reckless behaviour in his everyday life?"

clemenza, Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

“Lonnie Smith was never accused of having a gun for an arm in left field - but in what instance did he actually have a gun?”

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Very basic question, but I checked all five trivia threads and it's never been asked: the eight father-son combinations who were struck out by Ryan. (I got three, had one wrong, then checked--I probably would have gotten one or two of the remaining five with a little effort.)

clemenza, Monday, 16 January 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link

That’s an interesting one

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

i struggle to think of 8 father-son combos, period. all the ones i can think of are the big obvious ones

bonds, griffey, alou...

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

How did i forget bonds?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link

ripken!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

or wait...was there no ripken sr? i know his brother, billy (just because of his naughty bat)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

I should have mentioned that three I got were really obvious: Bonds, Griffey, and a third HOF'er. Not Alou--not on the list I found; that does seem like it might be wrong--or Ripken. I don't think Cal Sr. ever played in the majors.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link

Boone?

omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

That was one of my incorrect guesses. Of the remaining six...

One HOF'er (son)
One HOF'er (father)
One future HOF'er, probably (manager)
Two good careers (the two fathers)
One not especially notable combination (both father and son)

Pretty vague, I know. This is all according to a tweet; other sources say there are only seven in total, so this guy may have a mistake on there.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

one thing i'll add: one father/son combo consists of two sons. (i gave up and looked it up – three answers i would have never guess as i was not aware of the father son-ness)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

ahh ok Tito and Terry Francona for one, then.

omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link

Yes--I never would have gotten that in a million years.

I thought for sure the Alous, but Ryan had gone back to the AL by the time Moises broke in.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

Here's the link if you want to check: twitter.com/theaceofspaeder/status/1086315158375489537?lang=en (if that embeds, look away, look away!)

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link

i didn't know about several of those father/son combos, and i always forget about the alomar family

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

here's a fun one. what player was taken off the field on a stretcher ELEVEN TIMES - six times while conscious, five times unconscious?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

trivial hint that won't be helpful: he's the #1 player comp for julio rodriguez this year (which means he was very, very, very good)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link

I don't know how this squares with your clues, but the hardest one to me is the W's even more than the S's. I think W's son is all but forgotten now.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

oh, my trivia question is totally separate from the father/son question, sorry! just something i learned earlier this morning and wanted to share.

on the father/son question, i didn't even know that the W, P, or S players had family that also played

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

Crossed wires, got it...Fred Lynn for your question? Fred was banging into walls daily.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

I don’t think there is a “P” in the father/son thing?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

according to the tweet clemenza posted a bit upthread, there is

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

and no on fred lynn! didn't know he was a wallbanger. but you're on the right track - it's an outfielder

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

There is a 'P' on the tweet, yes--that might be the extra one, as most other sources say there were only seven combinations he struck out.

I checked on the answer to KM's question, and it's a player who Lynn was often compared to; found two or three pieces that mentioned them in tandem.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

Oh wow. I hadn’t gone by the tweet - I had googled it after I gave up and landed somewhere else that didn’t have “p”!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link

even more trivia! was just reading about Jayson Werth and learned that he is the grandson and nephew of one of the father/son combos that ryan struck out!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

I was curious about the P combination--may as well say: Tony and Eduardo Perez--so I checked out Ryan's game logs.

On April 27, 1968, in his fifth game ever and fourth start, Ryan struck out Tony Perez the first time he faced him. I assume he struck him out a few times after that. (They usually were in different leagues, but not always.)

On August 10, 1993--more than 25 years and seven presidents later--in his 802nd game, and sixth-last start ever, Ryan struck out Eduardo (in his rookie season) the first time he faced him.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link

Next bit of trivia: name the seven presidents Nolan Ryan struck out.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:01 (one year ago) link

joe dimaggio struck out a president

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:57 (one year ago) link

or wait, no he didn't. somehow i was jumbling jfk, jackie, marilyn monroe, and joe dimaggio in my head

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link

More like a president struck out Joe DiMaggio, then, eh?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link

this is open-ended "trivia", because i only know of a few examples off hand and i'm curious who else did it.

tom seaver, in 1975, requested that his salary be decreased from 173K to 139K, because he didn't feel like he had performed well enough in 1974 to earn it.

stan musial, in 1960, requested that his salary be reduced from 100K to 80K, because he didn't like he had performed well enough in 1959 to justify it.

i'm not sure if seaver intended to or not, but both reductions were 20% pay cuts.

have any other players done this?

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

Hard to think of any other examples. There was that time Andre Dawson wanted to sign with the Cubs and it was a blank contract situation, where he told them they could just fill in the salary for whatever they felt was appropriate for a one year deal. So they wrote in $500,000.

omar little, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link

But that was a weird situation heading into the 1987 season, collusion etc, and he signed a much better deal the year after that.

omar little, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link

Swear I read about an example of this just the other day--I just have to get through the clutter in my brain to remember who it was.

clemenza, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link

from r/baseball, i thought this one was good (should be easy for you lot):

73 Phil Niekro
52 Tim Wakefield
43 Hoyt Wilhelm
38 Charlie Hough
32 Wilbur Wood
30 Joe Niekro
24 Dutch Leonard
24 Tom Candiotti
18 Felix Hernandez
18 R.A. Dickey

Name the stat

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

hit batsmen?

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

that's a good guess, and maybe right?

what's throwing me is king felix. did he throw a knuckleball?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

well for Niekro i know that's how old he was when he retired but the other guys don't line up with that

omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

I’m out of my depth in this thread but dying to know what Felix has in common with the knuckleball guys!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

so is this a top 10 list and the numbers are their career totals? or is this just a random pull of some stat for a bunch of knuckleballers plus king felix?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

maybe... most wild pitches in a season?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

i think that's one of the mysteries of the trivia question!

dutch leonard's presence is also throwing me a bit, because it means it would have to be some sort of stat that goes back to the old timers era

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

(if that's a top-10 list)
xpost

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

maybe... most wild pitches in a season?

thought this might be right, because 18 is the highest number of WP's that Felix threw in a season. but phil niekro topped out at 19 in a season (in 1967)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

it's got to be something along those lines

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

Didn't Felix throw a "slow curve" sometimes? It could be a list of "most pitches thrown under 50 mph in a season"?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

its a top ten, yeah. wild pitch is along the right lines

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link

HBP was my first guess, but that's not right

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link

Passed balls?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

please expand

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

PB + WP (season)

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

PB and/or WP + X + X (career)

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

or* not and/or

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link

but Felix had 156 WP's in his career?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link

X are added conditions (one stat but also this and also that put together) i hope i'm making sense lol, you guys'll get it

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

oooh, gotcha!

maybe X is with the bases loaded or a runner on third?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

basically, most runs scored on the pitcher via passed ball or wild pitch?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

no, getting closer

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link

Most strikeouts where the batter reached base via WP or PB or dropped third strike (catcher error) or ...?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

bingo

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link

i think most strikeouts while allowing a runner is the best way to put it

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

so wp/pa would be inferred

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link

wp/pb*

francisF, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link

easy counting stat one:

starting w/Sammy Sosa's 66 HR season and going down from there, only one number hasn't been the final total of home runs for any batter in MLB history. what is that number?

omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link

Iirc it was in the 50s…

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link

59? I know Howard hit 58, not sure about Stanton or Greenberg.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link

Stanton and the Babe hit 59

omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link

51

francisF, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link

johnny mize hit 51 HRs. for some reason i always remember that.

55 HRs?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

plus Cecil Fielder, Andruw Jones, Willie Mays, and Ralph Kiner!

55 is correct

omar little, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link

53 wasn't landed on til Chris David did it (and Pete Alonso did a bit later), and 57 was first landed on by sluggin' Luis Gonzalez

omar little, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

*Davis

omar little, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

A-Rod also hit 57

Judge was the first to hit 62

omar little, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

FB wall this morning--surprised me. Team with the longest stretch since they had a 40-HR guy (I've lost the post now, but I think it was almost 10 years longer than anyone else).

clemenza, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

(Should a true trivia question have a fixed answer? The answer to that one will change when this team gets their next 40-HR guy.)

clemenza, Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

Are we talking 20+ years?

omar little, Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

Believe it or not, coming up on 50.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

I guess this team moved into the #1 slot when Soler finally hit 40 for the Royals.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 February 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

Is it the Pirates or am I blanking on one of their guys who hit 40?

omar little, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

Very good--Stargell in '73 (also hit 40 doubles that year, the first 40/40 guy, I think).

clemenza, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link

for some reason i was thinking pedro alvarez hit 40 at some point for the pirates, but not quite. josh bell also came quite close in recent years

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

some specific-ass trivia, but here we go

of pitchers with more than 100 PAs in a season since 1900, who was the only pitcher to hit .400 or better?

even more specific: who were the only two pitchers since 1950 to hit .350 or better (again, at least 100 PAs in the season)

hint: you've heard of all three

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 00:05 (one year ago) link

I got nothin'...While you mull over KM's question, try this: most career HRs by first letter of first name. I'll hide the answers here: twitter.com/CodifyBaseball/status/1622077683575422983. Don't bother with Ruth; he's counted as Babe rather than George, so he's not on the list. Home run range of answers: 27 (U) to 762 (B).

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link

i ran across that one the other day, so i'll stay mum.

here are the answers to my silly question:

walter johnson, 1925, .433 in 107 PAs
don newcombe, 1955, .359 in 125 PAs
catfish hunter, 1971, .350 in 109 PAs

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

I should have had the middle one; first and third, no chance. (Thinking the third is an anomaly? I don't recall him ever being mentioned as a great hitter.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

Minus his big season, .204 lifetime--still pretty decent for a pitcher.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

i didn't realize don was such a good hitter! he put together some excellent seasons in 58 and 59 as well, hitting well above league average

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

Somehow I did know he was really good. .268/.336/.361 for his career, hit .300 or better six times. Sent up to pinch-hit 88 times.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

Sent up to pinch-hit 88 times

damn, that's impressive. now i want to know the record for THAT, heh

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link

i saw a mention of jim abbott's no-hitter today and took a look at the arc of his career. i didn't realize quite how good he was at his peak (1991: 18-11 with 2.89 ERA and 5.5 fWAR, 243 IP, and very good in 1992 as well), but also how bad things got in the late 90s. his ERA was 7.48 in 1996 (he went 2-18 for the angels) over 142 IP. i checked, and yes - that is the highest ERA for a pitcher who has thrown 140+ innings in a season since integration

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link

and he was 28 during that season! he retired, took 1997 off to listen to ok computer, and then came back for 2 more seasons before retiring for good at age 31. what happened to him?

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link

there was no coming back again after Kid A

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link

jim abbott listened to treefingers for the first time and, honestly, he hated it. he didn't understand what was even going on and why it was taking so long. but on the third and fourth listen, something changed, and so he retired again

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

The best he could was good enough

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Turned up on my FB feed (from MLB's FB page): the 15 African American pitchers to win 20 games. Here's the link if you want to check yourself (I glanced at the post before trying it myself): https://www.facebook.com/mlb/posts/pfbid02vFMJgGhradC5fUcMLfcen5cSSYQ7TrjdnT5tAwD3SK1C4tH6Kq7PefRAaN8Bi6w4l.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Stealing this from FB: of the 33 players with 3,000 hits, which five never had a 200-hit season?

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link

Answer: Anson, Yaz, Murray, Winfield, Henderson.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:01 (one year ago) link

ted williams?

still seems crazy tho

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:04 (one year ago) link

oh shit ted didn't even get to 3000 hits; he sucked

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:05 (one year ago) link

Nice question, I only got two right (the first and fourth you listed).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link

Impressed that you got the first one, one I never would have gotten. I saw the answers concurrent with the question, so didn't get to try it. I think I might have gotten the last three with enough thought--last two for sure--but never would have guessed Yaz, who I would have just assumed got 200 hits in '67. Pretty sure I knew Williams wasn't a 3,000 hit guy because of the two Ws, walks and wars.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Who made the last out in Johnny Vander Meer's second no-hitter? (One or two of you may have seen my FB comment--don't answer.)

clemenza, Thursday, 7 September 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link

(Needless to say, someone famous.)

clemenza, Thursday, 7 September 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I must have known this long ago and forgot: Randy Moffitt, first-round pick of the Giants in 1970 who went on to have a decent career splitting the closer job with Gary Lavelle for a few years (both played for the Jays, too), is Billy Jean King's brother. Still alive.

clemenza, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I can't vouch for the accuracy of this--lifted from FB--but: who was the only player to play alongside Vlad Guerrero Sr., Craig Biggio, and Dante Bichette?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/veresda01.shtml

clemenza, Thursday, 18 April 2024 04:43 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Only one MLB player who started his career before baseball was integrated is still living: Tommy Brown, who was 16 when he debuted with the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1944 and is now 96.

Source: https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/Oldest_Living_Baseball_Players.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 04:30 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Monthly pub trivia tonight. My teams always finishes second to the same team (we've beaten them once). Had a chance to win tonight if we'd gotten the final question right (they didn't either but still won). Category was "Unbrekaable Records": Joe DiMaggio's hit streak happened during which three months?

We guessed June/July/August; it was May/June/July. Great question.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 01:37 (five months ago) link

teams = team

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 01:37 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Not a question. The Grid led me to look up Mike Bordick today. He finished his career with 1,500 hits, 500 walks, and 800 strikeouts.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 August 2024 12:08 (four months ago) link

Is there a general thread for posting odd or interesting stat-related stuff from the past?

Fluke of the calendar, but caught my attention:

MLB Hits Leaders - Past 10 Decades

2010-2019: Robinson Cano - 2,624 hits
2000-2009: Ichiro Suzuki - 2,244 hits
1990-1999: Wade Boggs - 1,999 hits
1980-1989: Wade Boggs - 1,821 hits
1970-1979: Pete Rose - 2,251 hits
1960-1969: Pete Rose - 2,090 hits
1950-1959: Willie Mays - 1,805 hits
1940-1949: Stan Musial - 1,589 hits
1930-1939: Paul Waner - 1,814 hits
1920-1929: Rogers Hornsby - 2,043 hits

clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2024 22:05 (four months ago) link

Jesus, that's obviously wrong...averaged 262 hits per season! Sorry, don't shoot the messenger.

clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2024 22:06 (four months ago) link

Looking at the comments, apparently that's not the only error in there.

clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2024 22:08 (four months ago) link

MLB.com features Sporacle along with Immaculate Grid...I rarely open it up, but this one's interesting (I got 19/25):

https://www.mlb.com/fans/trivia/name-that-baseball-player

clemenza, Friday, 30 August 2024 20:17 (four months ago) link

I got 8. But that was also from having terrible luck with my guesses (which was most of them)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 31 August 2024 02:12 (four months ago) link

I got 13. There’s a fun reference to Buster’s legal name in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZS9fmkY184

Romy Gonzalez’s utility infusion (gyac), Saturday, 31 August 2024 11:19 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

Only player to knock in 100 (season) for both the Jays and the Expos? Never would have got this.

Tony Batista

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 December 2024 19:27 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

i did so poorly on this that i'm not even going to tell you my score: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeZFFVtw2f0b-S0KC7ccWwJyInUPT1N_ygC6FygFRo4uCjXew/viewform

(from The Athletic's 2024 Baseball Trivia Quiz)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 19:32 (one week ago) link

13/50. I knew the first one right away at least.

gyac, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 19:59 (one week ago) link

25/50--went fast, intuitive guessing (I knew maybe seven or eight for sure through elimination).

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 20:12 (one week ago) link

17/50 but maybe only knew 2-3 w hi certainty

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 December 2024 20:33 (one week ago) link

25/50. I also went fast, with mostly intuitive guessing. Cool quiz though.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 26 December 2024 08:34 (one week ago) link

15. yikes

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 December 2024 18:04 (one week ago) link

The most amazing stat you'll hear today: Babe Ruth hit more HR during Jimmy Carter's lifetime (430) than any currently active player (Giancarlo Stanton, 429).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 30 December 2024 20:04 (six days ago) link

Drew Davis
‪drewdavis71.bsky.social‬

The MLB career home run leaders when Jimmy Carter was born on October 1, 1924:

1 - Babe Ruth 287
2 - Cy Williams 173
3 - Rogers Hornsby 141
4 - Roger Connor 138
5 - Sam Thompson 126

mookieproof, Monday, 30 December 2024 20:27 (six days ago) link

(xpost) I had to really think about that for it to make sense (eventually it did).

clemenza, Monday, 30 December 2024 23:17 (six days ago) link

Another one (a guy in the comments verified the math):

https://i.postimg.cc/26n6q5P3/rickey.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 30 December 2024 23:25 (six days ago) link

Two possible answers for a second baseman (and possibly/probably a third active player):

https://i.postimg.cc/T1VN3gdk/quiz.jpg

(Of the players listed, there are other possibilities--I can think of another catcher and two other third basemen who would work.)

clemenza, Sunday, 5 January 2025 02:27 (seven hours ago) link

So… this is the highest WAR by position, for players that have played for only one team?

If that’s correct, I’m actually not certain who the answer is… maybe Whitaker? Fox? Collins? Banks?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 5 January 2025 05:08 (five hours ago) link

You're on the right track: one team/MVP/HOF. So Robinson and Gehringer, with Altuve a possibility down the road.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 January 2025 05:10 (four hours ago) link

Wow I was pretty off on most of those guys

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 5 January 2025 05:11 (four hours ago) link

Oh ya, Gehringer looks like the answer with Whitaker the runner up

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 5 January 2025 05:13 (four hours ago) link


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