2006 in-season trade deadline rumors and deals

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cuz two months-plus is NOT too early!

Last winter's Mets-A's Zito for Milledge rumors are back (I love Barry, but NO), along with Milledge-plus for Dontrelle:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spken0508,0,17323.column

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

How about Heath Bell for Zambrano's roster spot Omar WTF!?!?!?!??

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

And then Heilman for Zambrano's rotation spot>?!?!?

And then Milledge in Floyd's roster spot next year!>>!>!!L!??!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Omar's middle initial is not T, i guess

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

soriano back to the yanks for cairo and cash. he's not happy in the outfield, but the yanks need his bat and godzilla is out for who-knows-how-long.

― ml (mltronik), Sunday, 14 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Um?

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 14 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, he has said that he is enjoying it in the outfield.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 14 May 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

he's certainly playing as if he's enjoying it.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

haha, Cubs get Phil Nevin! It's a carousel of has-beens.

Anyone else hear Gammons say this week on BBTN that he expects the Dodgers and D-backs to wind up with Willis and Zito, respectively, on August 1 because they have the prospects?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like one of those fake leaks that gammons has been compaining about.

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Allow me to rephrase; Willis to LA seems plausible. Zito to D-backs seems a little sillt from the D-backs POV

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Zito goes to NYY, Willis goes to Oakland.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Florida goes to hell in a handbasket?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

if willis and zito get traded to NYY and OAK in a 3 way with FLA Billy Beane for Nobel Prize ya srsly

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

wait a sec, or did PG say Zito to LA and Willis to AZ? Makes more sense? ESPN Insider to thread!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

O's sign Russ Ortiz... lay on hands, Leo.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

thank gawd! I thought for sure the Giants would come back for sloppy seconds...

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, not sure i understand that one. what does russ ortiz bring to the table over, say, bruce chen?

oh, yes...russ is a proven winner.

apparently the o's are in talks for ryan shealy, though.

that's good.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 26 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Ortiz is a cheap bet. Has worked with The Maz before and when effective can eat up some innings. It isn't that the O's have a fantastic starting staff. I figured the Reds might give him a call.

Considering how the Marlins are playing, I can't see them dealing Dontrelle. Their payroll is lower than dirt as is and if they keep playing OK, they might be able to put a few more people in the stands and keep it from the total trainwreck that happened after the first purge. Stay in FLA or go, the Fish will still have to have some starting pitching. Willis still has a couple of years before he becomes a free agent, so I don't think they are completely dire to dump him. Then again, the Marlins ownership is pretty loopy.

I don't think it matters who the Astros pickup, with that bullpen they are not going anywhere. If I was a team with some vet bullpen pitchers, I'd try to unload them and get a slumping Jason Lane from them. Lane played pretty well down the stretch last year and maybe just needs a change to get back on track. His OBP is not bad and walk to K ratio is pretty good.

I figure the White Sox and Tigers will probably stand pat. They might could use something, but I don't think they would want to give up much.

Does John Smoltz end up somewhere else? I know The Boss would like to get a guy like that in pinstripes. I tend to doubt they have enough to make a deal. The Red Sox could use Smoltz and they seem to have a few more options in trading.

I said it a while back, but I would not be suprised if Reggie Sanders ends up some place else. It is just not the playoffs without Reggie Sanders on a new club.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like the Dodgers are about to ger fleeced by the D-Rays again (not official.. yet):

The Dodgers have acquired left-hander Mark Hendrickson and catcher Toby Hall from the Devil Rays for right-hander Jae Seo, catcher Dioner Navarro and a player to be named, FOXSports.com has learned.

Hendrickson, 4-8 with a 3.81 ERA, joins a rotation that has featured only two consistent starters, right-handers Derek Lowe and Brad Penny. Hall gives the team protection in the event of an injury to rookie Russell Martin or veteran backup Sandy Alomar Jr.
"He's a great fifth starter," a scout says of Hendrickson, 32, who is 6 foot 9, 230 pounds. "He's durable. He's tall. He's very deceptive. Guys get bad swings on him. His stuff isn't great, but at the end of the day you look up and say, "He's not that bad."

Seo, 2-4 with a 5.78 ERA, was dropped from the Dodgers' rotation in May and has been pitching out of the bullpen. The Devil Rays could keep Seo — he is not be eligible for arbitration until after this season — or spin him to another club.

The Mets have shown interest in re-acquiring Seo, 29, whom they traded to the Dodgers along with reliever Tim Hamulack last January for relievers Duaner Sanchez and Steve Schmoll.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Its official. And now the Dodgers have the market cornered on having too many middle infielders, catchers, and junky starters.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair, the traded a catcher and a junky starter to get a catcher and junky starter, so in that sense the market is as cornered as it was before.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Here's an interesting article about Smoltz from the AJC's Braves blogger. He spells out several reasons why there's almost no chance of Smoltz being dealt, and how such rumors are just the media stirring up shit. I'd really be shocked if the Braves traded away any of their big veterans during the season, but especially so if it's Smoltz. I could see Andruw and Hudson going in the winter, and maybe next month if they maintain June's astounding .150 (or whatever) winning percentage.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

But at least before they didnt have all 3 catchers on the ML roster like they do now. I hope they kick Alomar to the curb. We also have the benefit of paying more for our crap corps since Navarro and Seo didnt make much money.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I hope they kick Alomar to the curb.

I would be shocked if they didn't. I'm surprised they couldn't get more than that for Navarro, though! They ALSO have to throw in a PTBNL! That's crazy. Andrew Friedman is a god.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Compared to a replacement-level human, or compared to Chuck Lamar?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

WWPDPHD?
[What Would Paul DePodesta Have Done?]

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

WWJDD? AWIISK?
[What Would Jim Duquette Do? And Would It Involve Scott Kazmir?]

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Compared to a replacement-level human, or compared to Chuck Lamar?

Hmm, good point.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Jim Duquette would probably trade Nomar, Ethier, and Russell Martin for Jim Mecir and a Tiger Football handheld game. So Grady would have a bonafide closer, see.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Is the football game the closer.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

uh, jim duquette just signed russ ortiz for league minimum. i'd say that was too much, but they're paying chen 3.8 mill to think of shitty one liners in the bullpen. all is forgiven if they can get shealy w/o giving up the farm.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

does this mean that the diamondbacks have to pay the rest of ortiz's crazy contract? that contract lasts until 2009, right?

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

yep. the dbacks pay ortiz's contract in full and on top of that he'll get a prorated chunk of $375k from the O's.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

So there are only something like seven teams in MLB that are more than seven games out of a playoff spot right now. Any team having a fire sale should get pretty good value, right?

(Mostly this is wishful thinking that other GMs will be enamored with the Cubs unique group of "toolsy" players in their first year of an inexplicable multi-year contract.)

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 13 July 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Someone's going to trade for Neifi Perez, I can FEEL it.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 July 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

So Huff is a 'stro.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

dusty will never let neifi go, he's a hustler and a gamer

― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

we should limit the trades discussion to moves that actually impact the pennant/WC race.

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

neifi, if traded to the right team, could help them miss the playoffs by 25 games

― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the Nationals are willing to listen on the 4 or 5 desirable players they have besides Soriano.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, so they're NOT willing to listen to offers for Soriano? If so, are they insane?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 13 July 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

in addition to...

talk around here is that to read the tea leaves on kasten-isms, his talk certainly woudln't preclude a deal.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 13 July 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

There seem to be a lot of big names this year -- Burrell, Abreu, Soriano, Willis (somewhat). I have no insight into which of them might move, but it seems like a team with a few good minor league prospects could pick up a quality player this year.

Especially in the NL races, I think even one good to great player could have a huge impact. Huff to the Astros makes a lot of sense to me for that reason.

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 13 July 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

shit, Kearns, Felipe Lopez, and Ryan Wagner to the Nationals for Gary Majewski, Bill Bray, Royce Clayton, and a couple other dudes.

I guess Cincy's completely giving up this year.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2518314

they apparently want to shore up their bullpen!

― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

If that's the going rate for relief pitching, then, well, jeez.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

well, the Lopez-Clayton part doesn't seem to make sense, but I'll wait to read about Bray etc.

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Yeah, I meant they were dealing Soriano too.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

ARE YOU KIDDING?

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY KIDDING?

Holy fuck Jim Bowden actually FLEECED someone?!?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

robble:

Right-hander Sidney Ponson, who became a free agent when he was released by the St. Louis Cardinals, has reached agreement on a deal with the New York Yankees, ESPN.com has learned.

Ponson, 4-4 with a 5.24 ERA in 14 appearances with St. Louis this season, lost his spot in the rotation when the Cardinals signed Jeff Weaver. Since Ponson cleared waivers Wednesday, the Yankees will be responsible for the pro-rated portion of the minimum salary for the rest of this season. St. Louis will pay the rest of Ponson's $1 million salary.

Ponson helps fill a void at the back end of Joe Torre's rotation. Mike Mussina, 10-3 with a 3.24 ERA, is the only New York starter with an ERA under 4.00.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

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The Mediocre Shortstops Local 218 is rejoicing over this trade.

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA. Ponson certainly fills in voids! You can never have enough terrible pitchers!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ponson helps fill a void

must ... resist ... urge ... to make fat jokes ...

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Krivsky is insane.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

wow, nats. like, wow.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

and great yahoo headline: "reds acquire majewski in eight player deal"

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Keith Law is a great addition to ESPN's stable of writers. His baseball analysis is so sane compared to the Steve Phillips lot.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Considering the Reds gave up Kearns AND Lopez, they should have gotten Chad Cordero. Lopez has been a nightmare at short, but the guy can really hit for an infielder. Kearns still has one more season before free agency and Lopez has three. I think trading for any relievers is always really dicey and if Lopez and Kearns stay as regulars it could end up one of those Lou Brock trades.

I think they will be able to replace Kearns, as Cinci's minors have been really deep with outfielder for the past few years.

I could see Cinci also flipping Brandon Phillips to short and putting Freels at second some more now that Lopez is gone.

I was kind of hoping Cinci might try to shop Adam Dunn to the Rangers for Michael Young. That made more sense to me as the Rangers and Astros both have tried to trade for him in the past.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 13 July 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

I could see Cinci also flipping Brandon Phillips to short and putting Freels at second some more now that Lopez is gone.

One would hope, but word is that Clayton will be playing SS for the Reds.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, Huff with a 3-run bomb in his first game as an Astro.

― boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 14 July 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

Remember when Los Yanquis discovered thaat Home Run Armando Benitez didn't hack it in Los Bronx? They're about to discover the same thing with Los Ponson.

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 14 July 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

You could probably field an entire pitching rotation w/ the names that could be swapped for Armando's in Jimmy's last post. Sure, it'd be a shitty pitching rotation, but it'd be great for extra BP.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 July 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

This is true, but I think Ponson : Benitez is a lot better than any of those other names, Jeff Weaver. Mostly because they are both hispanic soft-bodies. /racist.

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 14 July 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

Is Ponson hispanic?

Ponson celebrates the Yankees signing by poppin' da Cris' with some fans:
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3926/ponson2if.jpg

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 14 July 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

dude, is he wearing zubaz in that picture? is his homie's girl sporting hot pants?

sweet!

i don't know if he's hispanic, but he speaks spanish and his englisg sounds like luca brazzi.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 14 July 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

He's from Aruba, which is Dutchish, or so Greta has been telling me this last year.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Friday, 14 July 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

THE RETURN OF EL SID

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i never figured out if he actually spoke dutch, but the o's had three arubans on the 40 man roster at one time and i think they all communicated in spanish.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 14 July 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

continuing his bold stroke master plan, smiling jim signs...luis matos.

marlon byrd dfa'd. i bet the o's sign him.

yeesh.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone familiar with this site's cluefulness? They have the Mets about to ship Jeff Keppinger to Pittsburgh for a Roberto Hernandez-plus package, and think the Yanks may be fishing for Reggie Sanders.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

According to their googlecache, they appear to be reporting after-the-fact deals and ESPN-level rumors.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

dumbass Steve Phillips thinks the Yankees have to trade A-Rod, he's just never going to live up to his potential, he can't hit in the clutch, he's a terrible third basemen, etc..

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Was this in a mock press conference? "Live up to his potential"? Is he sucking off the same dong Dave Justice ponied up to a few weeks ago?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

It was on Mike & Mike in the Morning.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

THERE IS ONE (1) REASON STEVE PHILLIPS IS NO GM NO MORE

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

o's broadcasters have said that o's and mets have been in talks.

i'm guessing lopez (rod) and/or hawkins.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

THERE IS ONE (1) REASON STEVE PHILLIPS IS NO GM NO MORE

TEH BAD TOUCH

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

hey Steve Phillips, maybe the Stankees should realize he's THEIR BEST SHORTSTOP!

they appear to be reporting after-the-fact deals and ESPN-level rumors

Well, that's good'nuff for those of us who aren't Insiders (TM).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Vinny Castilla got DFA'd. See you later, clubhouse leader.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

fanciful talk in the b'more rags today had rodrigo lopez and a mid-level prospect going to philly for burrell or abreu.

ha!

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 20 July 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hillenbrand DFA'd! Padres please go get him, thanks bye!

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

if Abreu comes that cheaply, LET'S GO METS!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Braves get Bob Wickman for Single-A catcher Maximiliano Ramirez.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

And here's the proof.

This is a pretty solid trade for Atlanta, I think. Ramirez has some upside, but they've already got McCann and Saltalamacchia ahead of him. Wickman's not great, but he's better than any of the stiffs and retreads that've been lousing up Atlanta's pen this year.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

definitely. i had no idea the braves were that much in the thick of it for the nl wc.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

they're only five games out of the wild card, but there are like seven teams between them and the lead. still a pretty significant long-shot.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

polyphonic, hillenbrand has been run out of boston, arizona, and now toronto. both leagues, three cities, two countries. the guy is the baseball equivilant of the third rail, touch him and you die.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Was it Riccardi that traded for Shea-Hey? Or Gord Ash?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Mark - don't blame the front office; blame the Axis of Evil.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Riccardi.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

BONER

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Steve Phillips said Wickman has veteran presence, y'know.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

is that what we're calling beer guts these days? he must be wild about boomer wells.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

polyphonic, hillenbrand has been run out of boston, arizona, and now toronto. both leagues, three cities, two countries. the guy is the baseball equivilant of the third rail, touch him and you die.

Yeah, but I don't have to play with him, so whatever.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

apparently Jayson Stark wrote there are Abreu-Milledge talks.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Willis-to-STL rumors are intruiging for a couple of reasons:

1) who does STL have left in their farm system? I was under the (likely mistaken) impression that their cupboard was pretty bare.

2) The perfect storm for Cubs fans this season would be to see their former can't-miss prospect not miss for the rest of his career... with the Cardinals

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

If I'm Beinfest, I would do Willis for Anthony Reyes, straight up.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Daily News sez Abreu to Mets dead. I'm so glad the insubstantial rumor slack has been taken up during Gammons' recovery.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Buster Olney says the Red Sox are looking to move Mike Lowell somewhere for pitching - San Diego, specifically, although he won't say what might be coming back in return (SoSH hivemind seems to think Peavy, which ain't happening).

I doubt this one is going anywhere, but in the interest of Raposa hyperventilating: PEAVY PEAVY PEAVY!

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

ZOMG

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Why would we trade Peavy for Lowell. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

oh SoSHpaws...

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

How many years does Mike Lowell have left?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

On his contract.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

One, I think.

Someone on SoSH has clearly been drinking a little too much of that dirty water.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

The sports radio wags in Boston rightfully chastized a caller repeating the ESPN Lowell-Peavy nonsense.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Now, if it was Hansen, Lester, and Lowell, then I'd think about it.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

what'd i heard was that after releasing castillo the padres called to inquire about lowell, the bosox said the price would be peavy and both sides agreed to disagree.

i hate when something as innocuous as "what would it take to get lowell? peavy? nevermind." becomes "ohmygawd deal in the works lowell/peavy!!!"

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

apparently shea's just been traded to the giants for jeremy accardo and a ptbnl.

― no question (Mark P), Saturday, 22 July 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

'four words, shea: don't poke the barr.'

― gear (gear), Saturday, 22 July 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Why is Washington trading all of their players?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 22 July 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

They're trying to slash payroll.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 22 July 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

Scott Williamson to the Padres for two A-level prospects.

― mattbot (mattbot), Sunday, 23 July 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

i wouldn't gave given two AA batteries for scott williamson.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 24 July 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2528494

― gear (gear), Monday, 24 July 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

jeez I love Brandon McCarthy, I dunno....

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

"i wouldn't gave given two AA batteries for scott williamson. "

Williamson probably needs AA batteries to keep the bionic parts of his arm and shoulder from falling apart. That dude is a DL slot waiting to happen.

Unless the White Sox can get an extension from Soriano, that seems like a bunch to give up for basically a rental.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

WTF do the ChiSox need Soriano for? Their problem (from what little I've seen) starts & ends on the mound (cf. tonight's 3-run tater to Joe Mauer coffed up by Ye Olde Towne Penne) (ps - HAWK CALL THE FUCKING HOMER YOU DOUCE). Is Kenny W trying to shiv his rehabbed GM image?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

The Padres are cornering the market on useless old relievers.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

I don't exactly buy this but made me think for a second:

...there are some within the organization who believe the free-swinging Soriano has been feasting on weaker NL pitching. They point to his numbers in interleague play - a .181 average (12-for-66) against the American League this season - as a reason to wonder if he'd be as powerful if he were back in the AL again.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

so now I know why I didn't buy it:

Soriano Interleague 2006 (vs. BOS/NY/BAL/TOR):

.181/.403/.614

...as of his 12 hits, 3 were homeruns and 3 were doubles, not to mention he was walked 10 times including 3 IBBs. To add insult to injury, he stole 14 bases against AL teams this year and was only caught once.

File that blurb under the "dumbass analysis" thread.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

He was a pretty dang good hitter when he was with the Yankees.

For what it's worth, Bowden may very well spin Soriano for much greater value than Wilkerson & Sledge, so he deserves some kudos for a very unpopular move. It might wind up being a bigger plus on his record than Kearns/Lopez.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Free-swinging" Alfonso Soriano's interleague Batting Average masking his performance...

Steve Shasta to sborden, sborden More options 11:06 am (30 minutes ago)

Sam,

I caught your blurb on the internet today regarding members of the New York Yankee's organization questioning whether "free-swinging" Alfonso Soriano's interleague batting average is telling of his true worth if he returned to the American League.

I'm not sure if that using Batting Average as a testament of a hitter's worth was a smokescreen or not. You mentioned that Soriano was only 12-for-66 in interleague batting; however, of those 12 hits, 3 were homeruns and 3 were doubles... not to mention he was walked 10 times. Had you checked out his BA/OBP/SLG against those same teams:

181/.403/.614 = 1.017 OPS (which is actually ~0.60 higher than his OPS vs. National League pitchers).

One might say that Soriano feasted on weaker AL pitching during interleague play.

To add insult to injury, Soriano stole 14 bases in 2006 interleague play and was only caught once , perhaps feasting on those weaker AL catchers' arms.

I'm in your base checking your facts,

Steve Shasta
Malibu, CA

PS: "Free-swinging" Alfonso Soriano's .361 OBP is only .008 lower than Johnny Damon's.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

The Padres are cornering the market on useless old relievers.

Maybe not -- Elmer Dessens to LA! I didn't know Odalis P was 'disgruntled.'

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2529486

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

How can the Royals afford to pay even part of Odalis's ridiculous contract.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Dodgers are still paying for most of it. There's lots of debate on what the final savings is for LA since OP's contract was all fucked up by Depo/McCourt and backloaded. Its somewhere around 3-8 million in savings.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

PS: "Free-swinging" Alfonso Soriano's .361 OBP is only .008 lower than Johnny Damon's.

PPS: Neither bro is known for their plate patience.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno, johnny's averaged close to 70 walks over the past few years, right?

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

not exactly rickey henderson but not bad

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm in your base checking your facts,"

I love you stevshastawakeboardingphenomenon.

― BUTT LIKE A HOLE, BLACK AS UR SOUL (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

Is Kenny W trying to shiv his rehabbed GM image?

more likely he's just driving up the price for division rivals minnesota or detroit.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

So the Mariners designated Carl Everett for assignment. Think anyone will pick him up? C'mon now, veteran leadership, knows how to win, indomitable drive, .658 ops.

― jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

...and then they traded for Ben Broussard.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

...in exchange for Shin-Soo Choo "Doo Right."

― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Jake (VA Beach): Rob, why wouldn't you make the move for Zito if Billy Beane is truthful in only needing Milledge in return? Aren't OF prospects the easiest to replace, and the Mets are one of the few teams who can afford to make sure it's more than a rental at season's end.

Rob Neyer: (1:10 PM ET ) Because the Mets have a huge lead, and giving up Milledge isn't worth the tiny increase in your World Series chances that Zito would give you. Now, it's different if trading for Zito gives you a great increased chance at signing him to a long-term contract. This is complicated stuff, huh.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 July 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

One of the ESPN.com polls was whether you'd rather have your team trade for Soriano or Bobby Abreu, and Soriano was winning 83% to 17.

This is a fluke, American baseball fans, Alfonso will rapidly return to the old ways.

― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah except even Soriano's old ways might be better than what 32+ year old Bobby is going to have to offer at this point (plus Soriano's a free agent after this season whereas you have to pay Abreu for two--three?--more over-priced years.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

abreu is pretty rough these days, compared to his 'future HOFer in a just world' stats of yesteryear.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

The Milwaukee Brewers are trading slugger Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.

The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero and outfielders Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix.

― maura (maura), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Brilliant move by Milwaukee.

― Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Kinda weird, considering both teams are not quite in the thick of the wildcard races.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

The more trades that don't involve the Yankees or BoSox the better.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get that trade at all for Milwaukee.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Texas might very well be the AL West fave now, yes? esp if the A's deal Zito (tho I'd be more shocked than ever if it happens)?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Morbs,

Texas still caan't pitch.

Thx,

MLB.

― Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

According to BP playoff odds Texas was already the favorite (by a narrow margin anyway.) Is Eaton back?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Dear MLB,

And so far, the A's can't hit. (also, Padilla, Millwood and Otsuka can pitch OK.)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Frank Thomas can hit OK.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Thomas and Swisher are the only two A's in the top 50 in VORP for AL hitters (#34 and 42). Everyone else's VORP is under 5.0! Brutal.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Will Carroll:

Astros after Tejada

Red Sox trying to engineer a multi-team deal

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

"James (NJ): Will, Do you see the Mets getting Barry Zito. And if so, even though I've heard reports to the contrary now, woould they have to move Milledge? If they do, do you see this being a viable move for Minaya to make with Zito not being guaranteed to sign with the Mets next year?

Will Carroll: No, I don't think Zito moves, barring a major, blow-away offer. Remember, everyone has a price and everyone's available. It's just a matter of making the deal happen. Beane would trade himself for the right offer. I think it would have to be Milledge plus X to get Zito and even then, I don't think it's likely.

The Mets have what, a 99% chance of making the playoffs? Does Zito make them so much a better team in a short series that it's worth giving up Milledge? If Minaya wants Zito for next year, he could go get him without the player cost."

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 28 July 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

1. Doug Melvin offered Lee 4 years at $48 million, he turned it down, he's an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year.

2. Mench is no Carlos Lee but it's not like he is bad by any stretch of the imagination; we've already got a lot of power in the lineup; Mench is still under contract for two more years.

3. THE BREWERS' BULLPEN SUXXXX and The Chairthrower can step right in.

4. It's a signal to Milwaukee fans that things don't look good

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 28 July 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

...and that we're going to focus on next year, but that nobody's giving up just yet. (Next week, maybe.)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Francisco Cordero threw the chair, it was that other guy with a similar name.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh frank francisco that is correct sir

I APOLOGIZE TO FRANCISCO CORDERO AND HIS FAMILY AND HIS LAWYER> WELCOME TO MILWAUKEE JUST IN TIME FOR THE 'CERVECEROS' PROMOTION>

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Brilliant move by Milwaukee.

If it makes any ambivalent Brewers fans feel better, remember that SCOTT PODSEDNIK is responsible for this embarrassment of riches.

I love this trade. Things don't look good for the Brewers this year, but they've still got the best farm system in the NL, or close to it. If Lee rejected a market-rate 4/$48 deal, Melvin really had no other choice. I dunno about you, but I'd way rather have Mench, Nix, and Cordero (who's been totally solid as a setup man) than a couple of draft picks. Or Nelson Cruz (who ain't exactly Delmon Young) and two months of Carlos Lee.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jared (NJ): Any chance the Mets could land Zito if the A's decide to unload him, without giving up Milledge or Pelfrey?

Gary Gillette: (3:26 PM ET ) Jared, I can't see the Mets getting Zito without one or the other as part of the deal. But at this point, they almost certainly could have Zito for either of them. Billy Beane has reportedly dropped his asking price for Zito to a much more realistic level in the past week or so.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Who's ambivalent? I think it is a fine trade, although I think Melvin might have held out for a straight-up trade with the Marlins, Lee and Cruz for Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis. IT WORKS OUT ON PAPER.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

memo to Laynce Nix: go to the NL and never come back

― jergins (jergins), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, just in case Steve Shasta is really Mike Lucas of the Madison Capital-Times or something.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Maddux OK with a trade to a contender, Glavine reportedly trying to get him to come to NY.

The most shocking part of that article for me was finding out that Maddux lives in Las Vegas.

― mattbot (mattbot), Saturday, 29 July 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

okay Brewers picking up David Bell is like whoa. and not in a good way.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 29 July 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

The Philadelphia Phillies and New York Yankees have a tentative deal to send Phillies right fiedler Bobby Abreu and pitcher Cory Lidle to New York ESPN.com's Jayson Stark and ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney reported Sunday.

Stark reported the Yankees will send 20-year-old minor-league shrotstop C.J. Henry -- their No. 1 pick in 2005 -- and 27-year-old left-handed reliever Matt Smith. The Phillies will also pick one other minor-leauge player from an agreed-upon list, while the Yankees will take on responsibility for Abreu and Lidle's contracts. Abreu is owed $15 million for 2007 alone.

Abreu is hitting .277 with 8 home runs and 65 RBI in 99 games. He has a career batting average of .301 with 198 home runs and 841 RBI over 10 seasons.

Lidle, a right-hander, is 8-7 with a 4.74 ERA in 21 starts in 2006. In eight seasons he has a career mark of 78-69 with a 4.54 ERA.

Abreu was in the Phillies' starting lineup Sunday but was pulled for Shane Victorino 10 minutes before their game with the Florida Marlins.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Abreu has barely been better than Melky Cabrera this year. Does this mean that Bernie is done after this year.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm all in favour of the Yankees acquiring more past-their-prime stars in their 30's for what's left of their farm system.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Brian Cashman kinda sucks.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 30 July 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Abreu has barely been better than Melky Cabrera this year.
er...

.281/.353/.392
vs
.277/.427/.434

70 points of OBP ain't nothin'. If the Yankees are smart enough to bat Abreu leadoff and bump Damon, this is a brilliant deal for them.

― milo z (mlp), Sunday, 30 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck. NOT GOOD.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 30 July 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

So this basically acknowledges that either Matsui or Sheffield or maybe both isn't coming back this year, yes?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 30 July 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Not really, they still need a DH.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 July 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have actually been a bit impressed with how the Yanks have held up considering how things have gone with injuries and all. The Abreu trade only goes bad if those prospects pan out, for this year it is probably the right deal.

Outside adding another bat, even without the power, I think Abreu is still known as a decent outfielder which should help their defense, which has been real shaky the last few seasons. Lidle can eat up innings give up only five runs or so and they can win 7-6 like they do with most of their back end starters. Lidle's job is just to keep the bullpen from getting worn down.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 31 July 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

er...

I may not have been entirely honest there, but he has been pretty reasonable, and for the league minimum.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

This whole Ensberg/Oswalt/etc for Tejada is one of the crazier trade deadline stories I've heard in awhile...

The Astros have dropped out of the bidding for Miguel Tejada, according to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal.
Rosenthal says the Astros were willing to give up Roy Oswalt, Morgan Ensberg and Adam Everett for Tejada, but the Orioles still couldn't make it work. Baltimore was trying to spin Oswalt to the Rangers for Hank Blalock, shortstop prospect Joaquin Arias and a top pitching prospect, something that seemingly would have put the organization in much better position for 2007 and beyond. However, the deal was killed by Orioles owner Peter Angelos. The Astros were nervous about Oswalt going to Texas anyway and may have chosen to try something different. "It's over," an Astros official told FOXSports.com Sunday night. "We told them we're not dealing with them anymore." The Angels are also reportedly out of the mix for Tejada, suggesting that the shortstop will remain with the Orioles until the offseason.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

Peter Angelos is insane.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Rosenthal says the Astros were willing to give up Roy Oswalt, Morgan Ensberg and Adam Everett for Tejada, but the Orioles still couldn't make it work."

This can't really be true can it? I mean that's the worst deal ever for the Astros.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing that the Orioles were giving back prospects or other players. If not, wtf. I would trade Tejada straight up for Oswalt if I'm Angelos.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

Let's play the Failed Orioles Trade Scorecard Game!

Here's what the Orioles could have right now instead of Tejada, a .330 hitter playing on a 48-58 team:

Morgan Ensberg
Adam Everett
Hank Blalock
John Danks
Joaquin Arias
Possible return booty for trading Blalock or Ensberg
Melvin Mora no longer playing third
Hope for the future

Not to mention that you'd also be cutting salary by trading Tejada for all of the above guys. What a bunch of incompetent shitheads.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Tigers trade for Sean Casey and then DEMOTE Chris Shelton. Wtf?

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe as a precursor to a Soriano trade that'd free up room on the 25-man? It makes no sense otherwise.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, for the record...pretty botter about the way the tejada sitch has gone down.

angelos is a fool.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

MLB TRADE UPDATE FROM THE MAG'S AMY NELSON
Three baseball sources say that Pirates RHP Kip Wells is on the verge of being traded to Boston, and that the two sides are ironing out details to get it done. A deal could be done at any minute, a baseball source says.

Oof.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

yeah WATCH OUT YANKS AND JAYS, KIP WELLS IS ON THE CASE

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Xavier Nady to the Pirates for Oliver Perez and Roberto Hernandez, supposedly.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

And Duaner Sanchez out for the season after a car accident last night?

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, apparently!!!

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

you'd think they'd stop taking cabs after the glavine thing...

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

the padres got todd walker for a pitching prospect.

the rangers got matt stairs for a right-handed pitcher.

― maura (maura), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Someone finally takes Todd Walker. I hope that guy wins a championship with the Pads, he was nothing but misused with the Cubs. His defense sure sucks though.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Holy moly, lots of shit going down!!!

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

wtf does texas think they're doing?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Maddux going to LA...

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Craig Wilson to the Yankees for Shawn Chacon.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is Schmidt still a Giant?

― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Reports: Maddux and cash for Cesar Iztruis. I don't know how he managed to do it, but Hendry just made the Cubs worse.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

GAH

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

craziest trade year ever (maybe?)!

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Craig Wilson to the Yankees for Shawn Chacon.

No, seriously.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

LIKE JUAN PIERRE, BUT NOT AS GOOD

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

LIKE FURCAL WITHOUT POWER, PATIENCE, SPEED, UPSIDE

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Did half the GMs in MLB take stupid pills this year?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

BP reports that Schmidt and Lidge were off the market. I read somewhere else that Schmidt turned into a 10/5 guy as of yesterday, so he would've had a no trade clause today. Not sure if that's true.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

The Cubs message board I look at has melted down. A low-A prospect would've been better than Izturis. I would be better than Izturis.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Kudos to the Cashman, Omar, and fucking Jimmy B, tho.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Don't mind me while I xpost.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Julio Lugo to the Dodgers for two prospects.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Schmidt was 10-5 as of July 30th. I've never been so disappointed that we've kept a good player.

― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

BP reports that Schmidt and Lidge were off the market. I read somewhere else that Schmidt turned into a 10/5 guy as of yesterday, so he would've had a no trade clause today. Not sure if that's true.

-- mattbot (mattbo...), Today 1:22 PM. (mattbot)

Schmidt was supposedly "very on the market" and a possible Met as of 11:30am according to SF sports media.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

izturis' statline this year is like a neifi nightmare:

119AB
30hits
10 runs
7 doubles
1 triple
1 HR
12 RBI
7 walks
1 SB
3 CS
.252 avg
.295 OBP
.339 SLG

GREAT ANOTHER POWERLESS NO-HIT NO-WALK MIDDLE INFIELDER! LOL AT LEAST NEIFI AND RONNY CEDENO CAN GET THE OCCASIONAL DAY OFF NOW!

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Cesar's upside:

- cautious base-runner
- keeps the game moving
- makes the other team get him out
- won't clog up the bases
- not focused on his stats

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

If the Nationals keep Soriano Jim Bowden should be killed.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

GETS HIS UNIFORM DIRTY

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

A GAMER

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Soriano and Tejada staying put.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

A PRANKSTER WHO WILL KEEP THE CLUBHOUSE LOOSE

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

SPEEDS UP THE GAME BY SWINGING EARLY IN THE COUNT

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

SOLID CHARACTER GUY

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ryan Shealy to the Royals for Jeremy Affeldt and Denny Bautista.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

MAKES IT EASIER FOR CUBS TO TRADE FOR MACIR IZTURIS NEXT YEAR AT THE DEADLINE

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

MAKES EVERYONE AROUND HIM A BETTER PLAYER (BY EXAMPLE)

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK
THIS
TEAM

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

i KNOW maddux is on the downslope, but WHAT THE FUCK this cannot be the BEST FUCKING OFFER they received!

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Linebrink for Perez?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Schmidt was supposedly "very on the market" and a possible Met as of 11:30am according to SF sports media.

As early as 10am, I'd read that the Mets were scared off by Schmidt's 10-5 status.

― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Izturis trade is comical. He's owed $3 mil this year, $4 mil guaranteed next year, with a $5 mil club option in 2008. The Cubs are paying over $5 million for another Neifi through next year, plus whatever millions they still owe Maddux this year.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/Pendleton_Sinking_Ship.jpg

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

or more like:

http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~hagen/samplers/figures/ALVIN_JJ_Titanic_dwg.gif

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Joel Guzman plus whoever for Julio Lugo is pretty damn bad too y'know

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I predict Shawn Chacon will now go 6-0 for the remainder of the season.

― heavyweight grebt (sanskrit), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Im not sure why you'd trade a potential 30 HR guy for another fucking shortstop when we already have like 8 of them.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Lugo has pretty decent power for a shortstop, but yeah. Too bad they traded Itzuris, they coulda started four shortstops.

Todd Walker, meh. Glad the Oliver Perez deal didn't go through.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, pretty irked about the shealy deal...but, guzman straight for lugo woukd be a hell of a deal for the d-rays, though at some point, don't they have to start playing as opposed to just accumulating prospects?

dave littlefield is retarded.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

The temple of bad photoshoppery:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/trade_deadline/moretrades_06.jsp

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_150071.jpg

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

is there a recap of all the trades anywhere?

― BUJU DANSON (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/trade_deadline/moretrades_06.jsp

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

whoa, honus wagner was traded to pittsburgh for 3 slaves

― BUJU DANSON (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

Scott Linebrink: Deal to Mets Reportedly Falls Through
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Monday, July 31, 2006

Update: Contrary to what had previous been reported by ESPNews and others, Linebrink was not dealt to the Mets for Oliver Perez and Heath Bell.

Recommendation: It appears as if a deal was agreed to and then San Diego backed off just before the deadline as they felt the return they were receiving was not enough for Linebrink. He will remain in his role as Trevor Hoffman's set up man.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite part of this week every year is when the Top Certainty, ie Soriano moving, turns out to be shit.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Joe Sheehan:

"The Twins reportedly offered Scott Baker and Jason Kubel for Soriano. Kubel won’t be arbitration-eligible until 2007 at least, Baker not until 2008 at least. Both are solid B prospects, and Kubel has a higher upside than that. Bowden wanted prospect Matt Garza instead, and no deal was reached.

"Let me simplify this choice: Bowden decided that he’d rather have Alfonso Soriano from ages 31-34 than Jason Kubel from 25-28, Scott Baker from 25-28…and $35 million! Unless Soriano is suddenly going to morph into Albert Pujols--hell, even if he is--you have to pull the trigger on this trade. The gap in production for the cost is far too great. You can make this deal and then use the money on Jason Schmidt and think seriously about the 2007 wild card."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

And there's really no guarantee at all that he'll have Soriano from 31-34. He may only have him for two months and still lose $35 mil.

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jayson Stark rambles incoherently about Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, and "the right thing to do"

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

He needs to be replaced by the far more coherent Wilford Brimley.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

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