2006 NLCS New York Mets vs. St. Louis Cardinals

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mets always seem to play LaRussa-era Cards well, i gotta go Mets in 6 (lol at mets haterz in dodgerz series)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

I hate 'em both, this is the who-cares series for me. Mets in 6 sounds right.

― The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

It burns my fingertips to type this:

Cards in 6.

― boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

my favorite team ever: the METS... in 6 games.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

Since my housemate likes the Mets, I will go with them and hope they see the A's in the Series so maybe I can go to a game!

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Cards i guess. in6¿

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 October 2006 06:55 (nineteen years ago)

mets in 5

― jelky (jergins), Monday, 9 October 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

cards in 6 but who really cares about this series???

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 9 October 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

Mets and Cards fans!

Mets in 5.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sticking with my preseason Prospectus Predictatron pick -- Cards in 6.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

Mets in 7.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

mets in 6. braden looper will have a total john-franco-as-an-astro moment during game 2.

― maura (maura), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Looper had pretty much been Franco-as-an-Astro for about the last three years.

― boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Mets in 5.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

cards in 7

― chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

SREVE SHASTA SAID IT WOULDNT HAPPEN.

METS IN 6

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Mets in 6

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

mets in 7

― jelky (jergins), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

i need the mets out just for something to gloat about/have a conversation about their failing

― Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

since I'm a perfect 0 for 4 so far ... Cards in 7

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming BuckCarver will be doing most of this series -- HOW MUCH WILL THEY TALK ABOUT FOOTBALL???

Vaguely disquieting forecast for Game 1, at least I'm under the roof...

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Game 1 Starter JEFF WEAVER

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

cards in 7 - BOOK EM, DANNO

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking I should maybe switch my pick to the Mets.

The Mets, decimated rotation aside, in 7.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cliff on roster; Royce Ring off, Anderson Hernandez on (didn't see that one comin):

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2621119

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Anderson was playing good at the end of the year, I like the move.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Cardinals in 7. Feeling a little fatigued by the time the Series gets started.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4344/cardinalscelebratejm2.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

weather's starting to look better for tomorrow than tonight. fuck.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

game 1 tix honored friday at ... whenever.

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

MLB, pleez make it 7 or 8pm Friday so I don't hafta beg my boss to leave early. thankyew

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

8 pm friday so i can go. ;_;

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

I mean FOX, of course

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I've been watching these games on MLB.com since I'm not in the US, and two things have impressed themselves into my BRANE

a) The picture quality and data rate is astonishing. Maybe they're streaming an HD feed and this is boosting the quality a little?

b) We get no commercials, just a wavy blue background and "Commercial Break in Progress" on the screen, interspersed with INTERMINABLY REPETITIVE AIRINGS of Lasorda as well as two mooks in the MLB.com offices, holding their mobile phones up to each other in some disastrously conceived "ringtone staredown," using audio content from MLB.com.

Anyway, the reason I mention this is that the lack of commercials highlights how RIDICULOUSLY long each commercial break is, a duration that I suspect has been jacked up for the postseason. I haven't timed them yet, but it's like 4 minutes each. Assuming the players only need half that, that's 2*18 = 36 minutes tacked onto games that already begin at 8pm EST. Frank Robinson, look no further.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

The length of the innings breaks are fucking obscene. I do housework.

GAME 2, Friday at 8:05! Thank you, Rupert & Beelzebud!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I noticed too, that the breaks between innings has magically doubled.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

will LaRussa stick with Suppan in Game 2? will the Mets blow out their pen playing 5 straight days?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Will this series ever begin?!

Nice touch with Bob Murphy in the beginning.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Quite a pitcher's duel so far.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Tony LaRussa's annoying sunglasses on at all times vs. Terry Francona's stupid fucking sweatshirts

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 13 October 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

ugh, rain again!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

CYHSY ON FOX TELECAST :(

― Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

Boy that went a long way. Heh heh heh.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

Or would've if it hadn't hit 40 feet up the scoreboard.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

carlos beltran officially christens taco time, nlcs style.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

So Detroit/NY then?

― Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 13 October 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well probably, but it's a bit early blah blah.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 13 October 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

yeah don't jinx us, yankee fan.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Nice touch with Bob Murphy in the beginning.

wha?!? A Superman Returns-Brando style resurrection?

I'm surprised Randolph was flexible enough to use Mota instead of Heilman in the 8th. They need at least one blowout on the weekend to save some bullpen bullets.

I have my 2 t-shirts, sweatshirt, hoodie and jacket for tnite.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

supposedly bill belichek is a cardinals fan.

mets in 4.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

GREAT THEY WON. BUT REALLY, IT'S ALL ABOUT CORY LIDLE. LET'S TRY TO STAY ON MESSAGE.

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 13 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Mets bettah not get in situation where they need a bench, cuz w/ Floyd possibly useless and Chavez starting, they don't have one.

stenc, you didn't get there for BP? I'm wondering if they'll let the proles go in the field boxes for it (I'm afraid no).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

naw i didn't get there until about 7:30.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

supposedly bill belichek is a cardinals fan.

They showed him during their little celeb spotlight segment. He appeared to be exchanging fashion tips with LaRussa.

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

bill belichek fashion tips:

1. WEAR A BIG UGLY SWEATSHIRT
2. THERE ARE NO OTHER TIPS

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Prince Albert on Glavine, via Newsday:

“He wasn’t good. He wasn’t good at all.

“I think we hit the ball hard, we didn’t get some breaks…

“I say he wasn’t good at all. We just didn’t get some opportunities and that’s it…

“He did same thing that he always does. Throw a changeup, fastball and that was it. I just think we should’ve done a better job than we did.”

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Carpenter's ERA on the road this year is 4.70.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

pujols 0-3, 1 bb, 1 k, 1 lob, .000 ba

aka stfu asshole

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hey man at least he's clean c'mon look at that line.

― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Rolen is swingin crappish with that shoulder too.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

people in my section last night started chanting "rolen sucks" among many other things.

i felt really bad for the dumb chick in the mike matheny jersey.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

It looked this way on TV...

Keith Law: (12:09 PM ET ) I think the reason we had such a low-scoring game (not that I mind - it was nice to get to bed before 1 am) was the strike zone, which stretched from the Jackie Robinson Parkway to the Wantagh.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

They make Matheny jerseys for people other than Matheny??

― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

has rolen ever been not hurt?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

not ".179 in his last 15 games" hurt

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

He was kinda walking /whiffing that way in 2004, IIRC.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Pujols is in a 0-10 post-season slump with 4 Ks.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

CHOKER

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jay Jaffe smackin' on the lawyer:

So, you're Tony La Russa and it's the sixth inning of a scoreless NLCS opener. At this point in time, you've got:

1) a faltering if not tiring starter nearing the 100-pitch mark and working on a scoreless string that probably adds up to the number of zeroes he put up during his entire Anaheim tenure

1a) Jeff Weaver, a guy who ends up yelling into his glove a lot as he turns around to admire the flight path of a projectile he helped launch

2) two lefties in the bullpen, rookie Tyler Johnson and veteran Randy Flores

3) Dos Carloses--Beltran and Delgado--next in the batting order, both with major platoon splits that say BRING IN THE SOUTHPAW (Beltran .247/.352/.482, a 220-point difference in OPS; Delgado .226/.311/.440, a 244-point difference)

4) Oh, and this: Beltran has a career SLG of .619 against Weaver in 42 at-bats, while Delgado has hit .500/.620/.974 off of him in 38 at-bats.

This isn't a three-alarm fire yet, but rest assured, if you don't pick up the phone, it may well be. The sample sizes are small, particularly the one that tells you that your two lefties have held the sluggers to a combined 1-for-8 with a walk in their careers. In the big picture of his career, Beltran's platoon difference disappears. Delgado's, however, is very real. In short, just about every piece of matchup data you have favors making this move.

Now, you being Tony La Russa, you figure that you'll get to do the same thing again, probably in the eighth inning, with whichever reliever you don't tap here. You made your name and fame as a manager pursuing exactly these kinds of matchups, and while the result--12-man staffs and endless commercial breaks for those four-pitcher innings--isn't pretty, you've reached the postseason so many times you now have to use your toes to count.

Seems like an easy decision, right? I pointed it out as something to watch for in my NLCS preview.

Except you're Tony La Russa, and you let Beltran jack it out of the park against Weaver for a 2-0 lead, and then after an emphatic double surrendered to Delgado and an intentional walk to David Wright, you finally bring in your first lefty, Johnson, to face Endy Chavez, a guy with a reverse platoon split the last two years...

Now, neither Johnson or Flores is anyone's idea of a championship caliber lefty one-out guy (or LOOGY, as coined by John Sickels). However, unlike your righty setup men--Looper, Brad Thompson, and Josh Hancock--they both average about a strikeout per inning, which offers some hint of their abilities. Based on WXRL, Flores is your third-best reliever on the roster now that Jason Isringhausen's season is toast, and frankly, your bullpen is so thin that the thought of hauling Sidney Ponson off of the nearest barstool for the purposes of ballast has probably crossed your mind. If there's a reason you're even bothering to carry these two lefties on the roster, it's to face the key hitters, right?

Tony La Russa, Genius.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Art/Art/Craft-Choker.jpg

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9230/prodqs5.jpg

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

willie's pujols strategy should be just to walk pujols every pa, since he can't stay cold forever.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was at Maine's last start vs Cards, and it's fair to say Albert had a good night:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260822121

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Albert said the same shit about Chris Young last week. He's basically an asshole, and there are long-standing issues between Pujols and the Padres going back a few years.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

They should bean him instead of walking him! Saves three pitches.

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

that'd be a good idea but you're forgetting roid rage.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Not much pitching going on in this game.

4-4 in the third.

― boldbury (boldbury), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

NEW YORK – Given a night to chew on a 2-0 loss to the New York Mets in Game 1 of the National League Championship Series, St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols still isn't impressed with Tom Glavine's seven shutout innings.
Pujols, whose repeated comments that Glavine "wasn't good" bothered Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, did not back down when the words were repeated to him Friday.
"Is that what I said?" Pujols said before Game 2. "OK, then. Keep that one.
"You guys," he added, "already wrote what you were going to say."
Minutes earlier, La Russa had vented to two reporters about how he thought the treatment of Pujols' comments in local newspapers was unfair. Following the game, Pujols said about Glavine, "He wasn't good. He wasn't good at all."

"You get a guy who's a hot competitor as soon as it's over, he's not happy about losing," La Russa said. "So he makes a statement. It's not a good statement. Glavine deserves credit. Now it gets blown up like he's some sort of disrespectful pro."
La Russa had a simple solution.
"The answer is, that player does not talk," La Russa said. "And he'll never get embarrassed, right? And they'll complain, say, ‘Oh, he won't talk to the press.' Somebody takes the guy right after the competition. They're very vulnerable to saying something."
Asked whether Pujols should have known better than to demean Glavine, La Russa shouted at a pair of reporters.
"No," he said. "You guys should know better than to make a big issue out of it. This guy is a great pro. That's what the answer is. Use common sense."
Pujols, coming off his sixth season, won the NL MVP award last season and could win it again this year. With a flyout in his first at-bat of Game 2, though, he is 0 for his last 11 in the playoffs, adding another struggling player to a Cardinals' lineup full of them.

― gear (gear), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

So Taguchi - reserve LF 2006 playoffs
2-2 (2 HRs)

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

country time

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

why would you leave wagner in at this point?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

How many postseason games has Wagner appeared in where he failed to give up a homerun?

Crap baseball-refence doesn't give PS HRs or BSs.

― boldbury (boldbury), Saturday, 14 October 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

Many "great pros" are capable of saying "Glavine was great tonight, but at the same time we didn't play our best and I expect a better performance of myself and my teammates" instead of constantly being a dickhead after tough losses. Fuck Albert Pujols.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 14 October 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

fuck tony la russa and fuck fox's interminable commercial breaks. i have to go now, my nose is still frozen from being outside for eight years.

― maura (maura), Saturday, 14 October 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

game 3 pretty much decides it, if mets lose, Perez in game 4 is pretty much the end of the road :(

― timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 14 October 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

well, maybe not

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe this ended up being the interesting series and the other one was such a bore (because the A's never bothered to show up).

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

believe it or not, some people on ilb actually find the a's boring. ok, i don't know about "some people," so i'll speak for myself. the a's are boring.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

no big market payroll, no credibility

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

move to san jose, whiner.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe this ended up being the interesting series and the other one was such a bore (because the A's never bothered to show up).

I kept dozing off during the fourth game.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Many "great pros" are capable of saying "Glavine was great tonight, but at the same time we didn't play our best and I expect a better performance of myself and my teammates" instead of constantly being a dickhead after tough losses. Fuck Albert Pujols."

FUK YU

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

I like the A's and even I think they're boring. Milton Bradley is a keeper, though.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

Gotten over the idea of quitting baseball fandom since Friday night... Upper-deck Sec. 11 had the most cretinous, drunken crowd I’ve been subjected to in 37 seasons of going to Shea. Abusing Cardinal fans, standing at random points, beer after beer -- my friend saw some fool in a Yankee jersey midgame get bathed with the contents of ketchup and mustard tubs at the concessions (victim was so shitfaced he found it hilarious and invited folks to put cigarettes out on him) ...Plus the Mets would NOT let ticketholders watch BP from the field boxes if you had a ticket for another level (as they do in the regular season), so fuck them (and "God Bless America"), no more postseason attendance for me.

Also, last row of the section = wind blowing directly on you for 5 hours.

Nice touch: Psycho theme on PA when LaRussa comes out to mound.

I don't wanna see Trachsel throw another pitch.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

milton bradley and frank thomas are the only non-boring elements of the a's, imo.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

my friend saw some fool in a Yankee jersey midgame get bathed with the contents of ketchup and mustard tubs at the concessions (victim was so shitfaced he found it hilarious and invited folks to put cigarettes out on him)

this is really funny though (mainly because he was a Yankees fan)

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

milton bradley and frank thomas are the only non-boring elements of the a's, imo.
-- hstencil (hstenc!...), Today 7:48 AM. (hstencil)

= I DON'T LIKE WHITES AND LATINOS.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Shea forecast looks fine for Wed & Thurs.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

i like latinas, tho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

David Wright is not latina.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

i like david wright! don't wanna marry him tho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

is it true the PA was playing "White Lines" when Strawberry came out to throw the first pitch?

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

T/S: David Wright vs. A-Rod

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

This game is making me uneasy.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

being held to 2 runs by Taco Weaver twice in one series prolly means you don't deserve to lose to the Tigers (of course series ain't over but wonder kids wright & reyes have to show up)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Damn it.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Mets are in big trouble.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

Good pitching by the Cards though, they certainly hit all the right corners of the strike zone (and a couple lucky ones.)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

question: if Maine falters early (very likely), do you bring in Oliver? I'm curious because I would definitely have Oliver as my game 7 starter, but I doubt Willie would ever let that happen. (Probably won't be an issue anyway unless Mets get to Carpenter very early tomorrow)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

a fucking shame. a tigers/mets series would have been so good.

i guess on the plus side there's a chance for the Cards to get swept three years in a row. 12 consecutive WS game losses has to be some kind of record, if 8 isn't already.

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Astros got swept last year.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

being held to 2 runs by Taco Weaver twice in one series prolly means you don't deserve to lose to the Tigers

To be fair, Weaver has been a much better pitcher in the last few weeks, not just against the Mets.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, he's improved of late, but in the context of trying to get to the world series when your own pitching staff is fucked, not really acceptable to be schooled by weaver

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

Esp the Old Fuckin' Reyes flying out on the first fuckin' pitch of the 5th. I want Rickey waiting for him at his house.

tigers/mets series would have been so good.

This shit ain't ovah, you ninnies! Carpenter didn't exactly stump them on Friday.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Really don't want a Leyland/LaRussa lovefest, though I would anticipate a Taco/Tigers showdown.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

2006 Playoffs to date:
STL Cards: .779 OPS, 3.04 ERA
NY Mets: .771 OPS, 4.24 ERA

by comparison:
DET Tigers: .867 OPS, 2.92 ERA

The Tigers vs. A's was the World Series as far as I'm concerned. The NL playoffs is like watching the losers' bracket.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Astros got swept last year.

wtf is wrong w/ me. i feel like the Cards have been in it the last 5 yars.

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

The Tigers vs. A's was the World Series as far as I'm concerned. The NL playoffs is like watching the losers' bracket.

None of the playoff series have been particularly compelling. The NLCS is at least competitive, but it's hard to look past the mediocre play.

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

They kinda have been ... it's their 6th playoff appearance in the past seven years, and of those years it was only in 2001 that they didn't reach at least the NLCS.

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― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yanks-Tigers was compelling because of how the Tigers completely turned the series around after the fourth inning of Game 2. They were getting killed in the series and ended up dominating the Yankees from that point forward, handing them their most humiliating defeat of the Jeter Era. Kenny fucking Rogers and his 8.85 playoff ERA emerged as a playoff hero against a team that has pwned him for more than a decade, even I had to root for the thug.

The Cards began a similar turnaround about midway through Game 2 of the NLCS, with El Taco Grande and the frigging Soup Man providing the heroics along with noted power threat So Taguchi. If they can pull off the upset, the WS will be contested by two teams that pretty much collapsed at the end of the regular season and miraculously got their shit together for the playoffs. I can't think of another recent WS matchup that featured two teams that went from so bad to so good quite so dramatically.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Although admittedly, labelling the Cards as "so good" is a bit of a stretch. They might fluke their way into a WS title with ridiculously inconsistent play a la the 1997 Marlins, though.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Or the way the 1997 Indians almost won the WS in the same year!

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

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Hah, yes, I stand corrected re: Yanks/Tigers.

Tigers/Yankees was the WS!

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

some BB ... where ppl don't even know what the World Series is. Shasta sounds like John McGraw (and dresses like him, I hear).

Did Miller ask Morgan on ESPN Radio if those two solo HRs count as MANNAFACTURED?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

The strike zone sucked last night btw.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Where the fuck is Earl Weaver these days, seriously? Why didn't he ever become a TV analyst? Considering his style of managing (playing for the big inning, heavy reliance on stats and batter-pitcher matchups in particular) I'd think he'd have a lot to say about the game today and the old timers wouldn't fuck with him because he was CLUTCHTASTIC and could win pennants.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

i thought earl weaver was dead?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

rumours of his death have been ... well, you know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Weaver

apparently he was a TV analyst inbetween his two stints managing the O's.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

he's 76 years old, probably too old to be on tv. ;_;

"weaver on strategy" is a great book, one of my dad's favorites.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I remember Weaver doing games when ABC had em...

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

The 'infamous' radio appearance on that Wiki article was an off-air gag.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

he's 76 years old, probably too old to be on tv. ;_;

John Madden is around that age and ... oh, wait.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Morbs, you're so cute when you're flummoxed.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

and the rest of the time!

(I'm not flummoxed, I want to gut Jeff Kellogg)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

"The strike zone sucked last night btw."

It was brutal for both teams though. Glavine got some calls that were just baffling.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea how accurate that Fox STRIKE ZONE thing is, but if it is even half right, I'm guessing some umps are getta yelled at in the off season.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

doesn't mlb use some sort of propietary strike zone measurement thing now to evaluate umps?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

the infamous QuesTec? haven't heard much about it this year.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

i know the centerfield camera's at an angle, etc, but the FOX TRAX strikezone doesn't seem very accurate

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sheehan on the Valentin K in 8th:

What I found highly amusing was the sequence that followed on Fox. The FoxTrax graphic, which has consistently shown the umpiring to be a disaster, popped up briefly. Before it could be activated, the game went into a commercial break. They didn’t return to it until a batter had been retired, at which time they highlighted the replay with some sponsor’s logo, and “showed” that the pitch was just on the outside corner.

Now, take this with a very large grain of salt, but I’m just distrustful enough of the powers involved here—-Fox and MLB-—to speculate as to the timing of the graphic and the information it provided. To have that tool, which had consistently shown the home-plate umpires missing pitches time and time again, show up to confirm perhaps the biggest called strike of the series, and to do so after ten minutes, after it had nearly been used in the immediate aftermath of the pitch... it just seems terribly CONVENIENT. The pitch didn’t look like a strike, Valentin didn’t think it was a strike, no one I talked to thinks it was a strike.

Regardless of whether that pitch was called correctly or not, the inability of these umpires to call a consistent, correct strike zone has been one of the biggest stories of the postseason. It’s not just big strikeout calls that change games. Take Yadier Molina’s at-bat in the fourth inning. Home-plate umpire Jeff Kellogg called a 3-1 pitch well off the plate a strike; Glavine threw essentially the same pitch on 3-2, and Molina had to swing, because even though it was not a strike, he couldn’t be certain the guy making the call was going to see it that way.

Keith Law, over at ESPN.com, has dubbed it the “Heisenberg Strike Zone,” which is a label I can’t top. Until and unless we concede that humans can’t do the job with the precision needed, however, we’re going to continue to see baseball games worth millions of dollars decided by funcationaries making a few thousand.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I sort of hope the Mets pull it off just so they can be destroyed more thoroughly by the tigers. it will be like that scene in Jackie Brown where that Arquette broad is all harassing DeNiro and he's like STOP IT STOP IT ::SHOOTS HER DEAD::

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't buy that Valentin analysis. You could tell as soon as the pitch went by Valentin, he didn't even hesitate or protest... his knees buckled and he walked back to the dugout.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the Valentin pitch looked like it was close enough that Valentin was crazy for not swinging at it. Whether it was actually a strike, I have no idea, but I don't buy the Fox conspiracy at all. Some of the pitches they did show looked AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL on that Strike Track thing. If they were really serious about not making MLB or the umpiring look bad well I think they might have used it more judiciously at previous times. It was just a weird commercial break thing which makes Fox look greedy and incompetent, not trying to cover anything.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Shasta, I def saw Valentin shake his head after the call (and I don't think it was at himself). are you trying to be wrong more often than Tombot?

Forgot to mention the Mets jersey I saw in thestands last Friday:

KAZMIR

Imagine the bitterness.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

FOX STRIKE TRACKER THINGY V. K-ZONE FITE

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Shasta, I def saw Valentin shake his head after the call (and I don't think it was at himself). are you trying to be wrong more often than Tombot?

Dude, Q: How many batters after striking out while looking shake their heads like Valentin did?

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

If you ask me, I'll say a lot (unless your Michael Tucker and then you just start arguing).

If you ask Morbius, he'll construe it however it best defends his stance (and/or the Mets bullpen VORP).

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

I bet it happens tonight, too! And not just w/Valentin either! Someone keep track.

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed listening to McCarver give his analysis of how a pitch didn't get called a strike because the catcher couldn't frame it while trying to throw out a runner. Then FOX TRACKER UMPRIE LOL PATROL showed it to be like 3 feet outside.

And then calling Chris Duncan an odd choice to pinch hit before he homered... dude is a moron. I think he doesn't know what to say because Jeter is out of the playoffs :(

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

as the pitch went by Valentin, he didn't even hesitate or protest...
-- Steve Shasta (steveshast...), October 18th, 2006.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

And then calling Chris Duncan an odd choice to pinch hit before he homered...

Elias Says

Just how rare was Chris Duncan's pinch-hit homerun? In the 1,164 postseason games played since the American League and National League champions first met in 1903, there have been only two other occasions on which a left-handed batter pinch-hit a home run off a left-handed pitcher. Johnny Mize of the Yankees hit one off the Brooklyn Dodgers' Preacher Roe in the 1952 World Series, and Arizona's Erubiel Durazo hit one off Glavine, then with the Braves, in the 2001 NLCS.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Morbs, you may choose to infer that Valentin's head-shaking as he was scuttling back to the dugout posthaste was actually a vital protest to the ump, that is the beauty of this country!

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

But to your point, it looks like my prediction on the outcome of this series will be wrong as well.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

According to the fox strike tracker, every pitch is a ball.

― Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Bill Buckner is throwing out the first pitch tonight, fwiw.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

That's not really true is it?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

let's hope he doesnt drop it beforehand

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Barry, surely one of the major reasons for the dearth of lefty/lefty pinch-hit homers in postseason play is the fact that managers sub in a righty probably 95% of the time.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

And there's a very good reason for that! Ergo Chris Duncan (a rookie who batted 47 times against LHPs this year and posted a blistering 539 OPS against them) was an odd choice to pinch hit against a LHP in that situation.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

lol maine in 1st, he's going 3 tops. but reyes shows up so maybe mets have a chance

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Who else besides Oliver could the Mets use in long relief? Is Trachsel available now?

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

i fear the answer to that 2nd question

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

They need to prepare regardless cause Maine's got nothing so far. Every fastball goes up there so slow and flat. Even Carpenter has his timing down on them.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

Maine is looking better than he did in game 2 so far.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

has maine seriously thrown 102 pitches through 4 or is the yahoo boxscore fuxored?

― gear (gear), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say he's only thrown about 40-50 so far.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

It feels like 145!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

ugh attention Joe Buck, if Endy can bunt like that I don't really care how many RBIs he gets.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

La Russa calls runs "points."

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Dave Campbell made three "Maine man" puns in three innings on the radio broadcast.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

JESUS CHRIST ON A TENT PEG HOW LONG WAS THAT AD BREAK

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

ok maine, it waren't purdy, but nice job

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

GUTTY

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

Only Wagner can lose this now.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

Truer words have never been spoken.

― govern yourself accordingly (dayan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

NEVER

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

gotta love looper (gotta hate wagner)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

THEY KNOCKED HIS HEAD OFF

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/10/18/sports/19mets600.2.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

BILLY DON'T DO NOT-SAVES

SO DON'T DO IT TO BILLY

OR HE'LL DO YOU IN

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

I was at game 3 and some kid behind me kept yelling "SOUP AND SAMMICHES" but he ended up getting thrown out of the stadium for underage drinking by a guy who was like 80 yrs old and wearing a DEA hat.

More McCarver brilliance tonight when they walked 'Yadi the body'.

Buck: That would qualify as a bad walk as it clears Carpenter for next inning.
McCarver: But a GOOD walk for the Cardinals!

Uh, no shit.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

game 7:

Suppan vs. Trachsel? Ollie Perez? Darren Oliver?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

Perez is starting. I'd wager with a very, very short leash.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 19 October 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

Perez, then Oliver in long middle relief.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 October 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why not start Oliver?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 October 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Because Randolph liked what he saw out of Perez apparently.

― Tim McCarver (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

And what was that?

― Joe Buck (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

A pulse maybe? Look I was a catcher. You'll have to ask Joe Morgan to tell you what a former secondbasemen might be thinking in a situation like this.

― Tim McCarver (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

La Russa calls runs "points."
-- Euai Kapaui (tracerhan...), October 18th, 2006.

Hence, figures to be ILE's favorite baseball figure.

Simple on the starter: if Perez is OK (like for 3 innings), D. Oliver gets to pitch deeper into the game. If he stinks, Oliver comes in as soon as 2 guys get on.

I do not want to see Billy Fucko in any more tie or 1-run games.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

OK, suppose Perez loads the bases with one out in the second with the Mets already down 1-0? Do you lift him for Oliver? Why not just give the start to the guy most likely to give you 4-5 quality innings?

I don't the Mets' pitching staff was assembled with a mind to have Darren Oliver pitching in the late innings in a close Game 7. That would be a big waste of the league's best bullpen.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

The Mets' pitching staff wasn't assembled with a mind to have a month like this in any fashion!

it could be as simple as Randolph is more comfy w/ Perez for goofy reasons like Darren O not starting since '04... but since everyone but Maine (incl Glavine) may get the ball tonight, someone's gotta start (who isn't Trachsel).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Is Perez really better than Trachsel though (Game 4 not withstanding and three days rest to boot)?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Perez was pretty effective in Game 5! Willie just left him in too long. (I still don't understand how you let him hit in the 6th after you just scored 6 runs and he gives you 5 innings of 3-run ball.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

I hate to use this cliche, but it seems the foggy circumstances behind Trax's late-season leave (reportedly marital woes) and rumored ask-out the other night = Willie has "lost confidence."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wait Perez pitched in Game 5 too?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I meant 4.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Rob (Houston, TX): So, fire up the old predictometer...who wins tonight? And do they take even one game from the Tigers?

Rob Neyer: (12:07 PM ET ) I should probably quit now, since I did predict Maine beating Carpenter and I did predict that Oliver Perez would be named as Game 7 starter. I'll bite, though: Cardinals win tonight, and the game's mostly over by the sixth inning.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Max (Brooklyn, NY): Rob, what about Perez for 3, Oliver for 2, Feliciano/Bradford for 1, Mota, Heilman and Wagner take care of the rest?

Rob Neyer: (12:45 PM ET ) How about Perez for one or two innings, and then replace him with a right-hander like Heilman for as long as Heilman can pitch? That would complicate La Russa's life a little bit.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Tough to score points against that strategy!

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

kevin kennedy had this "theory" last night, saying randolph trusts last name oliver more than first name oliver, and would prefer to turn to D.O. if O.P. gets in trouble rather than vice versa.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

haha, Joe Sheehan ballistic over 'points'

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Meet The Mets
Meet The Mets
Step right up and greet the Mets
Bring your kiddies, bring the wife
Guaranteed to have the time of your life!
Because the Mets are really socking the ball
Knocking those homeruns over the wall
East Side, West Side, everybody's coming down!
To meet the M-E-T-S Mets!
Of New York Town

Well the butcher and the baker and the people on the streets
Where do they go?
To Meet The Mets!
Well they're hollerin' and cheerin' and jumpin' in their seats
Where do they go?
To Meet The Mets!

All the fans are true to the orange and blue
So hurry up and come on down
'Cause we got ourselves a ball club
The Mets of New York Town

Give 'em a yell!
Give 'em a hand!
And let them know you're rootin' in the stands!

Come on and Meet The Mets, Meet The Mets
Step right up and greet the Mets
Bring your kiddies, bring the wife
Guaranteed to have the time of your life!
Because the Mets are really socking the ball
Knocking those homeruns over the wall
East Side, West Side, everybody's coming down!
To meet the M-E-T-S Mets!
Of New York Town...
Of New... York... Town!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/photo/photogallery/mrmet/26.jpg

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/photo/photogallery/mrmet/15.jpg

http://www.queenstribune.com/archives/featurearchive/feature2002/0425/feature2-0425.gif

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 October 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Joe Buck: "Suppan with only 12 wins this season..." Now what I know about fantasy baseball could fit on Wee Willie Keeler's jockstrap but if I'd picked up Soup for 2006 and he got me 12 games I'd be laughin.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

that's tied for 20th in the NL (out of over 100 starters).

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not "not handing it to him" or anything.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

Lot of nervousness with the fly balls so far.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

Uh ... they're not pinch-hitting for Perez leading off the bottom of the fifth?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 20 October 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

Cliff Floyd does not make that play.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

What the fuck was that catch? What the fuck?

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

ENDY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they show that replay twenty more times tonight.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

That catch was brutal. SOOP has been nails tho. Great game.

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

Suppan hit for himself in the 7th?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

unnnhhh....it pains me so grievously to see Wagner warming up for the ninth. It feels so...Mets.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

Albert's mouth herpes == a reason NOT to upgrade to HDTV

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

mattbot otm

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

HAHA TAKE THAT MONEYBALLERS!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

YADI THA BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CATCH THAT CHAVEZ!!!!!!!!!!11111111111oneoneone

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

stfu, if the cards win this they'll just get swept again. la russa sucks.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

if the cards win this they'll just get swept again

Yeah, well, so would the Mets.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh god, not beltran :`````(

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Was that three straight? Last one looking? Oh, Carlos.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

enjoy the snow, cardinals lamers. la russa will totally over-manage his team into another ws loss.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

bummed, the world series is going to be a 4-5 game bore

on the plus side, lots of great reaction shots of Mets fans crying

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 20 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

GO TIGERS!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

it didn't really matter, but why wasn't Cliff Floyd (or some other PH) bunting?!?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wainwright's curveball was awesome all through the ninth. Yadier Molina is the new Aaron Boone.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I like the YADY YADY YADY chants in the background.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

cards in 7 - BOOK EM, DANNO

-- fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (adelangsto...) (webmail), October 11th, 2006 12:10 AM. (Adrian Langston) (link)

LOOL

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Cards were picked to lose vs the Padres. And then picked to lose vs the Mets. Being the underdog is much more fun.

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

METS = AIDS CAT

http://www.celiahammond.org/images/pagemaster/fiv_tom.jpg

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

i thought Randolph's only major questionable move was PHing FLoyd when the man can't run. could have been a lot worse than a strikeout.

though they lost, hopefully people won't forget how Perez handled himself.

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 20 October 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.baringvet.net/images/gallery/FIV.JPG

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bestmessageboardever.com/wiki/images/a/ab/Iamsam.jpg

― I AM AIDS CAT (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

cards in 7

-- chakra khan chakra khan (mikeoptin...) (webmail), October 9th, 2006 12:20 PM. (sanskrit) (link)

oh wait, AWESOME. but still, fuck the Cards.

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 20 October 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061010/capt.1d1378dec66b4cdab9c13dabc1de461f.patriots_football_cardinals_mets_mass101.jpg

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061012/capt.37306538fb45450f8e92e9cebe4c0f1a.nlcs_cardinals_mets_baseball_nys206.jpg

query: why is larussa wearing clown shoes

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

hey met fucks - i'm looking at you floyd & beltran - how about swinging at anything even remotely near the strike zone when you've got 2 strikes and the game is on the line. NOTHING MAKES ME MADDER THAN A CALLED THIRD STRIKE I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF HE'S GOT A GOOD CURVE!!!!!

(anyway, mets would have lost to tigers in 6 with El Dookie or 5 without him, but still, go down swingin' pussies)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/30/full.getty-72124119ch105_nlcs_game_7_s_12_35_53_am.jpg

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 20 October 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Great picture. I still can't believe that's the way the game ended.

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 20 October 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

Where is Bob Stanley WHEN YOU NEED HIM?

Note to Omar: GET ONE BENCH.

timmy tannin, you kinda deserve your name. Also, you dipshits who think you know what woulda/will happen in short series, sit-n-spin.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

free Kevin Goldstein log tells me what I missed by listening to Mets radio:

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5636

8:44 p.m.: McCarver informs us that David Eckstein, "has 20 digits--10 fingers and 10 toes." I swear to God I did not just make that up.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

:''''''(

― maura (maura), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

also, the biggest asshole i-banker cardinals fan of all time was at the bar last night, and i wanted to punch him in the nuts. defining anecdote: he made fun of a praying-to-the-heavens mets fan by saying about him, ‘your dad left your mom and she only makes $40,000 a year, and you think god cares about you?’

― maura (maura), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

A coworker reminded me that on Wednesday morning I said Games 6 & 7 would go just as they did. 'cept for the Perez awesomeness, obv.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

I really wanted the Mets to win, I don't like the Cardinals at all. A Tigers/Mets series would have been a lot more fun.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

also, att Mets promo dept: no fucking rally towels in '07, pls

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

curious disjunction in nyc media coverage of loss

newspapers: IT'S OVER
tv news: OMG CHAVEZ CATCH OMG CHAVEZ CATCH

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 20 October 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

a rough october for ny baseball ; (

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

No, the cup was half full.

Now we can read Slap-Rod trade rumors for 4 months.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

let's hope they're more than just rumors!

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Friday, 20 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Got to hand it to the Cards though, Suppon was in total control, and the Mets could not get a hit to save their season (4 walks to Delgado and no hits for Reyes/Lo Duca.) With all the talk of the starting pitching, both Maine and Perez came through big time though. And I'm still shocked at Chavez's catch. How the hell did he keep the ball in his glove when his hand nearly whiplashed forward over the fence back into the park?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 21 October 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

The promo towels were also very un-shea, although I guess something psuedo-intimidating like that is a prerequisite for any game 7 at home.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 21 October 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

They were a ripoff, much like some "fans'" Yankee-style chanting and using Bosox' crap Neil Diamond song. Stop awready.

Best thing about Games 6 & 7: They dressed like the Mets. Blue caps and pinstripes only, pls.

This stuff affects me much less than it did even in my 20s. When hstencil said "Sorry about [Thursday] night" to me, I had to think for 3 seconds what he meant.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

jose reyes is so fucking grebt--he's like andruw before he lost the love. just the fact that he made green bop his head in the dugout made me like green too

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 21 October 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

nine years pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvJovovWEAAMJYf.jpg

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:38 (nine years ago)

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