2010 Trade Deadline Thread

Now that the Angels have Alberto Callaspo, clearly the West is theirs for the taking.

Which team will hand over their prized players to the Yankees in exchange for a bag of balls and some autographed baseball cards of Reggie Jackson.

Considering the season Joba's having, the idea that the Yankees aren't willing to give him up for Dan Haren is fucking weird.

I think the D-backs 'win' that turn of events. WTF would you trade Haren for Joba? I might need one more b/c prospect if they threw in Montero too.

I think there would be more than just Joba involved in the hypothetical deal.

yeah that deal was falsified from what i can tell

no one should be trading a player as good as haren to the yankees without getting montero back, the rest of their system is pretty much crap

RT @Buster_ESPN: They just announced on the D-Backs’ broadcast that Dan Haren has been traded to the Angels, for Joe Saunders and others.

the fuuuuuuck?

mentioned on mets broadcast too

i quickly googled 'haren angel' and got Did you mean: karen angel

whaaaaat

The prospects better be fucking legit. Saunders sucks. The Dbacks have traded quality guys for Ian Kennedy, Edwin Jackson and Joe Saunders.

seriously this smacks of new dbags management "making their mark" by being retarded

The Angels have acquired Dan Haren from Arizona in exchange for Joe Saunders, Patrick Corbin, Rafael Rodriguez, and a player to be named later

Corbin is pitching okay in high-A, Rodriguez is organizational filler, Joe Saunders is Joe Saunders

d-backs probably lose this one bad unless the PTBNL is somehow mike trout

Supposedly the PTBNL list does not include Mike Trout.

Guh Reagins is kind of a shitty GM and he totally hornswaggled the dbags.

SI_JonHeyman
#dbacks needed to clear out that $33 mil on haren, too. economy doing especially poorly in phoenix.

jonahkeri
Heard this: Diamondbacks have placed Justin Upton on the curb next to a beat-up sofa and some pizza boxes. Come get him.

Ken_Rosenthal
#Diamondbacks official says two of three prospects are "outstanding" - Corbin and PTBN. #MLB

joe_sheehan
@Ken_Rosenthal Yeah, he's wrong.

Haren does belong in LA, he sounds like he's about to fall asleep in the middle of every sentence.

well, at least he didn't go to the yankees

was rooting for him to go to the cards tho, duh

@robneyer Won't it be amusing if the Jays get more for Scotty Downs than the D'backs got for Danny Haren?

the haren trade is even worse when you remember what they gave up to get him

haha yeah brett anderson alone is better than haren now probably if he can get healthy

Morbius, what is your twitter?

11:23am: The Yankees dangled Jesus Montero in talks for Joakim Soria, reports ESPN's Jayson Stark, but the Royals weren't interested.

this is amazing if true

no kidding!!

i'm on high alert waiting for the J's to deal all or some of Buck, Downs, Gregg... Overbay (if someone would take him).

they've dangled him for like half the names out there

i think if/when the J's deal Downs - we're all going to be disappointed since AA has raised Toronto's expectations ridiculously high with his previous deals.

xpost

11:23am: The Yankees dangled Jesus Montero in talks for Joakim Soria, reports ESPN's Jayson Stark, but the Royals weren't interested.

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ya - that the Royals wouldn't even hear it is the interesting part.

greinke is literally the only player on the royals roster that's as valuable as montero...maybe you could argue for billy butler, i dunno

They don't need offense! They have the best team batting average in MLB!

and the most runners stranded on 1st in the majors aswell.

(i would imagine)

Probably second, too, considering how professional Jason Kendall remains when it comes to sacrificing personal stats for the sake of productive outs.

Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Diamondbacks will not hesitate to trade EJax if they get what they want. No 3-way talks with #Nationals and #WhiteSox - yet. #MLB

Not until the Nats are willing to part with Miguel Batista.

They can trade EJax to DC for Livan and an A-ball pitcher with a 4.00 ERA.

Tigers are very interested in Pence? Please, no.

haren leaves game after getting pwnd in the forearm

ouch

The Yankees are one of six teams on the no-trade list of Royals closer Joakim Soria, reports ESPN's Andrew Marchand.

better for the yankees imo?

y

Soria: "Pero no quiero ir en busca de Nueva York en los playoffs. Quiero ir en busca de Kansas City en los playoffs.

So not gonna happen.

Jhonny Peralta to DET for Giovanni Soto (P).

TS: Giovanni vs Geovany

that would be great if the Indians made a big stink and asked for the league to intervene because the guy had no experience as a backstop.

Podsednik to Los Doyers is a done deal. 2 minor leaguers.

good, i'm glad he didn't go to the Giants. a BIG bat or nothing at all.

Happily the Dodgers didnt give up much for Pods. Lucas May is a 'catcher' with defense so bad some of his teammates in AA didnt want him catching for them or calling their games. He has power but holes in his swing (went 0-6 with 6 k's the other day). Pimentel projects as a reliever at best.

I think he's signed through next year for 2 mil so he'd be an ok bench player to have around. Pray to god hes not opening day LF in 2011.

@d_a_cameron Not sure I'd go to Philly if I was Oswalt. Unless he has the best two months, he'll be viewed as "Not Cliff Lee".

"Not an Astro" might be more important.

So is mediocre major league left handed starter the new centerpiece of trades for aces?

i read something that suggested the astros would get jonathan singleton, who would be the centerpiece in that case

Astros fans u mad.

Phillies get: Oswalt, cash

Astros get:

JA Happ: 6.6 career k/9, 2:1 k/bb ratio
Anthony Gose: .263/.325/.385 age 19 in high A
Johnathan Villar: .272/.332/.358 age 19 in low A

ouch no impact prospects to HOU there

gose is supposed to be a good tools guy at least but he has yet to hit in the minors

happ is gonna give up 50HR next year at minutemaid

Again, why the fuck did Philly trade Lee?

It was kind of a sideways move but Halladay is pretty dang good.

i still think the logic behind it -- replenishing their farm system -- was sound, but they might've whiffed on the prospects

they didn't trade lee for halladay though! they traded him for 3 mediocre prospects, none of which were part of the halladay trade. if their intent was to restock the farm, they took the wrong guys from the M's

Ed Wade, you guys.

wade actually had way more leverage with the phillies than he should've had, and still ended up with... this

i think the logic might have been more sound if they weren't at the win-now part of the MLB success cycle

i have a hard time imagining this phillies team to be sustainably good for another few years, and the braves are absolutely loaded now so this year might have been their last good chance

Phillies are fucked in the long term, which is why I dont get that Ryan Howard extension other than a business/ownership/asses in seats decision.

I think being fucked long-term is not a bad price to pay for having a chance to win a few titles.

^^90s-00s dbacks/marlins biz model^^^

howard extension doesn't fit that model

they tried to have it both ways by trading lee -- it might have worked if phillippe aumont didn't suck

i think the dbacks are still paying for the 2001 team

^^90s-00s dbacks/marlins biz model^^^

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key diff being established market vs. sunbelt nonsense.

team with history vs. buying a championship for credibility

Who do they have locked up for 2012 other than Howard and Halladay?

Blanton and Victorino thru 2012

utley, victorino, polanco, ruiz, blanton

they have 86M committed for 2012 already, which is kind of a lot

cantu to texas apparently?

Just minutes after the Astros officially acquired Anthony Gose, they sent him to the Blue Jays for Brett Wallace.

!

brett wallace: the man nobody wanted

They hate big butts and they cannot lie.

Sounds like Tejada is a Padre.

aka a 36 year old third baseman with a .670 OPS

um.

someone needs to drive to my house an spell out how this Wallace thing FUCKING MAKES SENSE

i don't understand what is going on

someone help

wow @ gose for wallace

Supposedly the guy they spun off for Wallace the Jays originally wanted for Halliday but didn't get..

Essentially they traded Michael Taylor for Gose, which is insane.

I THINK WE OWE ED WADE SOME APOLOGIES NOW DON'T WE

@lonestarball Richard Justice said Astros scouts see J.A. Happ as a "Cliff Lee type."

i'm about to break my computer

gose sure strikes out a lot

also: 36 SB, 27 CS

Jays prefer stolen bases to fat asses I guess

taylor and wallace have both had their stock fall a lot this year i think

not sure what they see in gose, i guess he could be a jacoby ellsbury type but with actual good CF defense

a bunch of people are going mental on the J's bored right now on both sides of the argument. sounds like Goose is pretty young and was "rushed" to single A. but ya - his caught stealing and petite obp sort of have me hyperventilating.

taylor and wallace have both had their stock fall a lot this year i think

I'd still take Wallace over Ed Carnation though.

i'd take Wallace over a lot of things. one of those being a dude with a .323 obp that gets thrown out 2 times for every 3 steals!

yeah wallace is a better prospect than gose still, but pretty much all the prospect expert guys except for keith law are down on him now

he is getting outhit by half the Vegas team - but he still looks better than Gose to me.

cantu to rangers

he is getting outhit by half the Vegas team

Alternate view: Vegas team is stacked.

keep in mind vegas is one of the best hitters parks in the minors - it's not quite high desert but it is coors-esque

The PCL in general is great for hitters.

Ed Carnation was absolutely raking before he was recalled.

Adam Dunn is like perfect for the White Sox, as they have a long history of big lumbering sluggers. I think that would be a good team for him to be traded onto.

Matt Capps for Twins' Ramos (C), straight up

This exchange just killed me:

@r_j_anderson Ya'll do need to respect @SI_JonHeyman more. He's a master of his craft. 3 minutes ago

@polyphonique @r_j_anderson He is very good at being Scott Boras's PR guy, that's true. 2 minutes ago

@TopGunNumba1 @r_j_anderson Agent's mouthpiece? 2 minutes ago

r_j_anderson @polyphonique @TopGunNumba1 My joke was too transparent. :( 1 minute ago

@SI_JonHeyman @r_j_anderson thanks so much! 1 minute ago in reply to @r_j_anderson

SI_JonHeyman
#mets dont seem to want to trade francoeur for jose guillen. that would be a rough switch for clubhouse.

love the capps trade, getting any decent prospect for a reliever is a steal

apparently the nats are hellbent on getting edwin jackson...no idea why unless they think they've seen something they can fix

Sounds like Jackson is about to enter the loving arms of Kenny Williams.

the Mets wanna lead the league in CLUBHOUSE so they can all watch the playoffs at Frenchy's place

i think kenny williams just wants to get dunn without giving up hitting prospects and jackson would be flipped to do this

not sure why the nats wouldnt just take daniel hudson instead though, he's quite possibly a better pitcher

If I was a Twins fan my head would explode over that Capps trade. Giving up a legit trade chip for that fucking guy is retarded.

Rauch was doing fine, really - didn't make much sense to me either.

yeah, plus their starting pitching is awful

Crazy Dipoto is having a firesale in Arizona! Everything must go!

Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that the White Sox have acquired Edwin Jackson from the Diamondbacks for right-hander Daniel Hudson and left-hander David Holmberg.

Supposedly these dudes are the Sox's best pitching prospects.

rumors he might get flipped 2 the nats for dunn ?

poor Jackson, there's a rumour the Sox might flip him for Dunn now!

lol xpost

this is all really strange and i'm gonna be annoyed if the nats are taking 3 years of jackson over 6 years of hudson, there better be someone else good going to washington

Maybe the Sox will throw in the whole season of "The Club" on DVD.

hudson's had a 10 K/9 at every level of the minors including AAA this year

not sure why the nats are so obsessed with edwin

HOW MANY OTHER AVAILABLE PITCHERS HAVE THROWN NO-HITTERS?

That's more than they got for Haren... Uh...

Yes but how many no hitters did Haren throw?

edwin's kind of a poor man's ubaldo i guess - good stuff and velo but control issues, maybe the nats think they can fix him enough to be above average

stop the presses!

The Blue Jays acquired Mike Jacobs from the Mets for a player to be named later

hahahah

i thought the mets straight up released jacobs??

he's one of the worst players in mlb

fuck

i thought the mets straight up released jacobs??

― J0rdan S., Friday, July 30, 2010 11:13 AM (10 minutes ago)

when a player is released he has 10 days to clear waivers. you should know this by now jordsy.

right

Mike Jacobs has not been "in MLB" for 3-1/2 months

Neyer pooh-poohs Twins on Capps deal:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/4585/twins-make-classic-error-overpay-for-saves

Neyer, in typical fashion, neglects to notice the trend of Rauch shitting the bed in his last 5-7 appearances. Rauch is not pitching like a guy you want to have faith in going into the playoff stretch. I'm not defending the deal it's just Neyer has this tendency to overlook trends in favor of "this season he has done this" and not drilling down and noticing that dude looks like he's on the verge of a major collapse.

unless you're a scout and can recognize a change in mechanics or something, we don't really know the difference between "on the verge of a major collapse" and "had a bunch of bad outings in a row but still the same guy"

if there's a counter-argument to neyer it's that ramos hasn't hit at AAA this year and now there's doubts about him being better than average

jan ruach isn't very good to begin with

i don't think that there's any debate over the fact that john rauch shouldn't be closing for a playoff contender, mostly just that their pursuit of a closer and not a starter was probably very much the wrong route

a bit weird but i'm not really going to question the twins on stuff like this.

christian guzman to texas

rizzo just needs to get the dunn thing over with now and he can have the weekend off

lance berkman to yankees is "imminent"

wow

non-waiver deadline is tnoight and waiver deadline is tomorrow right?

non-waiver deadline is tomorrow at 4pm EST

waiver deadline is Aug 31

when is playoff eligibility cut off?

aug 31

thxnU

What does the future hold for Mike LOL?

The Astros are picking up a lot of the money owed to Berkman and won't obtain top prospects in return, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney.

Which team will hand over their prized players to the Yankees in exchange for a bag of balls and some autographed baseball cards of Reggie Jackson.

― mayor jingleberries, Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:17 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

I don't understand.

lol

one thing the mets did today: shopped ollie perez good luck.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/19944775504

i think the Twins move is brilliant, with Rauch/Capps they will get double the number of saves, thus double the number of wins.

came hear to post how the yanks might get sloppy thirds for a bag of beans. bag of balls has already been taken.

Giants have done nothing, so far, and i'm OK with that. i wanted to keep Madison Bumgarner at all costs, feel like we could live without J. Sanchez though.

they're making moves on bautista

this is such a weird story...

keithlaw Heard from an exec not involved in the discussions that the White Sox are furious with the Nats over Edwin Jackson.

what motivation would the nats have had to bluff the white sox out of daniel hudson?

maybe they just changed their mind on him and kenny williams didn't get the memo

apparently so

dodgers still trying to get Ted Lilly after averaging 2.15 runs per game post all star break (starters have a 1.8 ERA) and are 7 games back in the west and 4 games back in the wild card.

chad qualls > rays

austin kearns > yankees

Supposedly Kenny Williams is after Manny since he missed out on other DHs. Supposedly he offered a million dollars and nothing else. lol.

Looks like Ryan Franklin is a Padre. Hopefully he got enough good numbers at Busch before his power is buried at Petco Park.

If they turn the money gained into a competent middle infielder then I will be less ticked.

at the redbirds, that is

Looks like Ryan Franklin is a Padre

Ludwick, not Franklin. So it's Ludwick to the Padres, Westbrook to the Cardinals, and the Padres are also giving up two prospects: Cory Kluber to the Indians and Nicholas Greenwood to the Cardinals.

Not bad at all. Ludwick is probably the second best hitter on the team now.

Lilly and Theriot are Dodgers.

and Blake DeWitt to the Cubs, in exchange

#Cubs sending Lilly & Theriot to Cubs for Blake DeWitt & minor lgers Brett Walch & Kyle Smit. LA also gets $2.5M.

Dodgers give up a 2b man who makes 400k and 2 decent aa prospects for 8-10 starts of Ted Lilly and fuckin Ryan Theriot.

This makes the team worse, addresses a need we dont really have, and will result in us being 4-5 games back instead of 7. Colletti u r gay.

I usually don't pay real close attention to trade deadlines, but is it my imagination or have there been like 2x or more the number of big trades compared to the last 5 years or so?

Hey, Theriot is an EXPERT at hitting singles, and only singles, every 4 at bats or so. He could play a key role in situations that require a 25% of a single.

I think Theriot was a guy the Cubs insisted be included, so really it's just for Lilly.

hah every player on the dodgers is an expert at hitting singles, its why we suck

But are the dodgers good at losing balls in the sun? Theriot is an emerging master in the field subject.

Well, our outfielders are experts at losing balls in the sun. Maybe he will help us with that in the infield.

Jesus fuck Colletti just traded a potential 4/5 starter and a LF with power in AA (albeit with a weed problem) for fucking Octavio Dotel.

Giants allegedly got LHP Javier Lopez.

Braves get Professor Farnsworth and Ankiel

kerry wood to the bronxxx

lambo's numbers don't seem that great even apart from the w33d

Lambo was one of the few OFs with upside in the system we've had for awhile.

He has since been replaced this season by this bro putting up a 1.000 OPS in AA.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_543742.jpg

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=1B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543742

have there been like 2x or more the number of big trades

Most of these players are not "big," but spare parts.

Gimme some heckles to toss at Farnz next week at Turner Field.

this has been a hilarious deadline

WILL OHMAN MORE LIKE WILL OHYEEEAHHH!

I'm thrilled about the Jays' insistence on keeping their championship core of Baustista-Downs-Frasor intact for next season.

At least you dont have that fatass Wallace on your team

not sure what the odds are Downs or Frasor will be around for 2011. i would not be the least bit shocked if Anthopolis valued the picks their departure would net us over whatever was being offered.

Wallace watch so far: 1/7.

Dodgers claimed Dunn off waivers. Washington does not have to make a deal but something could happen.

why was he put on waivers?! were they doing it because they'd worked out a deal for him with some other team?

everyone gets put on waivers yo

it's not so much that he was put on waivers, but that the dodgers claimed him. iirc, there are 2 first rounders at stake for a type A that fits well with Nats mgmt style dealing Dunn. Plus Coletti is going crazy trying to break out of this horrible slide into the basement.

also they might have just been blocking the giants or pads from getting him

i think that is the only reason why the Dodgers claimed him.

i think the dodgers did the same thing with Thome last year (?)

they we in the race last year, they are pretty much done this year.

unless Ned thinks they still have a chance?

Pretty sure its to block him from the Giants just to be a hater. Ned is stupid, but he cant be that stupid.

The Thome thing was done to get a lefty pinch hitter with power for the world series. Kenny Williams basically had an agreement with Thome that he would trade him to a contender if he could and he did. I think he thought he could get a return for the 'favor' when he called up and asked for Manny this year in return for jack shit.

Delgado is a Red Sox! (possibly)

Pretty sure its to block him from the Giants just to be a hater.

this is how you end up with jose canseco.

^^^ those were the days

Jays fans still talk about the team's legendary waiver dump of Randy Myers.

looks like Walt Jockety and Jim Edmonds are back together again. Not sure how the Reds and Brewers were able to trade him.. I guess he passed through waivers?

august waivers are revocable, so even if a player doesn't pass through, the waiving team can work out a trade with the claiming team instead of just shipping off the player

Jays fans still talk about the team's legendary waiver dump of Randy Myers.

Bad memories. :(

huh! i wasn't following baseball back in '98 - just read about the Myers debacle now!

looks like Walt Jockety and Jim Edmonds are back together again. Not sure how the Reds and Brewers were able to trade him.. I guess he passed through waivers?

― mayor jingleberries, Monday, August 9, 2010 1:03 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

right before 3 games with Cards. this look intersting.

Mike Sweeney is a Phillie
Garrett Anderson was released
Alex Cora was released
Chan Ho Park is a Pirate

Chan Ho Park is a Pirate

my... mind...

yeah

more like Land Ho! Park imo

he should grow his flowing beard back for some legit pirate cred