You know I love you, but I'm playing for keeps: Your 2011 Fantasy Baseball thread!

couldn't wait any longer to start the thread!
our first official keeper year! :D

so whenever yahoo gets around to opening up fantasy for 2011 i'll renew the league and invite last year's mangers.
i know we have one person backing out this year (sad face), so if a newcomer wants Will's old team, it's yours to inherit (comes with keep eligible Hayward & McCann). if not, them and the other keep eligible guys will be up for grabs in the draft.

i liked all our stats from last year. the only thing i didn't like was that the max IP was too high. some people liked it tho - so maybe just a tiny drop? otherwise i think everything was great.

i'll aim for a draft mid-way through spring training, as usual.

what i will need to know from the managers is who your keepers are going to be, since i have to manually input that before the draft. so if you could post your keepers to this thread right after you sign up for 2011, that would be awesome.

good luck!

the keeper rules:
• total of 5 keepers
• 2 of which must be 27, 28 or 29 yrs old
• another 2 players 26 or under
• one final keeper that can be either (basically anyone under the age of 30)
• age is based on that year's opening date (Carl Crawford, for example, can be kept in the 2011 draft because he won't turn 30 until after April 3rd of that year)
• for a player to be keep-eligible he must have been drafted on draft day by your team or traded to you by a team that drafted him. that means:
• free agent/waiver pick-ups cannot be kept
• the actual keeping of players will begin with the 2011 draft
• if you keep less than 5 players - you will have a random filler pick inserted instead of a keeper. once the draft is complete you can drop that player for someone else that will count as your final draft pick (must happen right after the draft, so i can keep track of it)

corollary: if a keeper eligible player is dropped he becomes ineligible; even if picked back up by the same team that drafted/dropped him

id like to request that the draft not be btwn march 16-19 plz

otherwise, psyched!

i was thinking maybe the 13th.

Can't wait to win again! ^__^

damn - i just looked at who you'll probably be keeping. looks like you're set for a while!

I'm cool with whatever max IP y'all wanna use.

March 11th-16th is rough for me but not impossible. or i could autodraft like gear! last year.

I was in Europe when Yahoo opened up last year, looking at my calendar that was February 11th, so the system will probably open up in two weeks or so, even though they don't say that.

sorry for starting the thread last year, i guess i jumped the gun then.

ha ha - that's fine. if i wasn't in Tunisia/Egypt (what a prophetic trip that was, eh?!) i would have started it myself.

i think my keepers are gonna be:

jon lester (27)
josh johnson (27)
joey votto (27)
troy tulowitzki (26)
jay bruce (24)

Im out for a spring training trip from march 18-22..

Is the old league still accessible from the same url? I removed it from my bookmarks awhile back..

my team from last year has some weak options for the keepers, but it was a weak squad. i guess i'll hang on to bailey, marmol, loney, alexei ramirez. at least then i won't have to concern myself much with closers in the draft.

bailey (26)
loney (26)
marmol (28)
alexei ramirez (29)

oh and chris young (27)

damn ciderpress' keepers are very swag

i'll keep

- elvis andrus (22)
- migeul cabrera (27)
- shin soo-choo (28)
- mike stanton (21)
- ricky nolasco (28)

de la rosa (29 by like 5 days)
brandon phillips (29)
chris perez (25)
lincecum (26)
austin jackson (24)

well since we're doing this now, mine will probably be:

Matt Wieters (24)
Félix Hernández (24)
Dexter Fowler (25)
Nick Markakis (27)
Cole Hamels (27)

and our old league page can be found here: http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/mlb/2010/306034

i will never forgive myself for the draft - when i was looking at Fowler and CarGo and i went with Fowler.

i drafted rick porcello

and he's yours for 8 years!

wow.

well i'm not keeping him

i think i have my team name: King Felix & BBQ Show

xpost lol! u serious?

porcello?????

i already listed my 5 keepers

oh - i missed that. fair 'nuff - those are some quality keepers.

i think at 22 tho - porcello's not a write off or anything.

damn ciderpress' keepers are very swag

yeah i basically drafted all keeper-eligible guys last year. i'm gonna have to release back into the pool: clay buchholz, colby lewis, pedro alvarez, miguel montero, etc

that is interesting news.

At the risk of opening myself up to some CIA-level psyops, which one of these three guys would you keep?

BJ Upton
John Danks
Jacoby Ellsbury

Leaning towards Danks because he's a pitcher, but Upton's speed/power combo is tempting.

ya - it's def between those two. i think it depends on your need for pitching vs power/speed.

i'd say that's a toss-up between upton and danks, ellsbury is trash at this point

Porcello doesn't seem like keeper material at all -- doesn't go deep (hasn't shown he can do it), not a strikeout pitcher, etc.

Aite, my 5:

Ryan Braun 27.39
David Wright 28.3
John Danks 25.98
Madison Bumgarner 21.68
Martin Pardo 27.44

(Reviewing Thermo's rules, I kind of had to pick Danks over Upton anyway.)

Possibly:

Fielder
Morneau
Gallardo
Greinke
Weaver

damn son

ya - those are two quality batches.

I have six candidates and I'm not sure which to pick, honestly. At least my two young guys (Posey and Gonzalez) will be an easy decision, but arguably my two best players (Crawford and Hamilton) will not be keeperable after this season. Verlander and Weeks are a bit younger.

ya - those are two quality batches.

You're not referring to mine (in addition to Andy's), are you!?

sure am.

Braun, Wright & Bumgarner is not bad.

Underachieving bastards/manager.

i'd wait until the latest possible to make a decision on morneau tbh...reports about him are still sketchy

That's why I said "possibly."

Soria and McCutchen are other possibilities.

i would think that mccutcheon is a must-keep

Given what I have, McCutchen isn't top tier in enough categories (for OFs) to keep (unless Morneau remains risky). Love him, though.

Does any site track NSB (in a sortable manner)?

Let me know if my math is egregiously wrong.. not my forte..

Granderson (28)
Hart (28.. probably 29 before season starts)
Kemp (26)
Ubaldo (26)
Price (25)

Looks like my OF is set. I kept Jesus Montero on my roster all goddamn year last year and Im releasing him back into the wild. Will miss u little buddy but I gotta have proven major leaguers in my stable of keepers. Was convinced he was going to be traded at the deadline last year and would be a starting C this year..

Thermo, if one team trades a keeper-eligible player, does the other team need to send another keeper-eligible back to maintain a certain balance?

I'll probably end up keeping:

Robinson Cano (28)
Jose Reyes (27)
Brett Anderson (23)
Matt Cain (26)

and then either

Michael Napoli (29) or Denard Span (27), depending on how much playing time Napoli is expected to get, and how much speed/power I need.

leee - i don't see why they should need to keep balance.

probably:

Rasmus (24)
J Upton (23)
Ade Gonzalez (28)
K Morales (27)
Aardsma (29)

bad news, jingleberries - Granderson will turn 30 in march!

i think i'm keeping matusz, latos, longoria and pedroia for sure.

...and then? eesh.

Aw sheeeeit. I knew my math was garbage. I think I can still keep Quentin right? Even tho I dont really want to, Im pretty sure I dont have anyone older than 26 other than him thats keeper eligible..

i dunno - how old is he?

I'm keeping:

Joe Mauer (27)
Ryan Zimmerman (26)
Clayton Kershaw (23)
Stephen Strasburg (22) (RIP)
Andre Ethier (28)

... unless I can somehow find space for Chad Billingsley (26). I'd seriously consider keeping him instead of Ethier if it were possible (because of age requirements). Carrying Strasburg for the entire season will sort of suck, but I guess it'll be worth it when he hopefully comes back better than ever and I can LAYETH THE SMACK DOWN ON YOU SUCKAS UNTIL 2018.

that is some dedication there, brah. i commend you.

I was wondering if maybe we could adapt the rules slightly so that players claimed on waivers ARE eligible as keepers but free agents aren't? I thought that might be a fun wrinkle, so that if someone discards a player the keeper eligibility isn't immediately shot.

This would hypothetically apply only to the first time they go on waivers, of course.

i thought about something like that (when i was crafting the rules). but i have to keep track of all of this, and while i can check back to drafts etc - i cannot see free agent/waiver moves after a few months. i want to keep this as relatively simple as possible for everyone - including me, your beloved commissioner - because once it gets too confusing (or too much work) it stops being as much fun.

i would like to pick up Billingsley right now a la Rule 5 Draft.

Quentin was born in 82 so I think he makes the cut. My math skills are poor to say the least.

Thermo, I'd be happy to be your fact-checkin' cuz if that made things easier, but obv it's your call.

It's pretty easy to see the free agent / waiver moves all the way back to the beginning of the season, fwiw

it is? you got a link? all i could find was draft results.

Go to League > Transactions, and then you can sort by Drops and then subsort by the individual manager's team (for example) it gives you a list of every player one manager put on waivers for the season, which is a pretty quick and painless way of seeing if a player from that team's draft was ever waived. Or you can go through all the drops without subsorting.

ya - that was there during the season, but is it still there? i thought they took that and a bunch of other stuff down. (can't check as i'm at work)

Oh, I didn't realize you were talking about after the season was over. I guess it would be tough to keep track of that stuff between the 2011 and 2012 seasons, although it would be pretty easy for me to make a list of keeper-eligibles at the end of the season.

OOHH! 2011 is open!

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/18268

hmmmm:

"You are not allowed to view this page because you are not in this league. (Error #152)"

the "join a league" link is here:

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/register/joinleague?.scrumb=

but we need the League ID# and pw from the commish

...and I just saw my email. sorry!

Just click on the "Join Private" link, and you'll trigger an alert to renew last season's team (at least that's what happened for me).

invites have been emailed.
so i guess once we have all our teams signed up i can enter our keepers.

wow xposts

password is "keeper", ID# 18268

also: i think i might have to "lock" the league in order to set the keepers. so there's going to have to be a point where all the teams that are going to sign up need to be on board.

"geovany lord sotosyn" checking in

Dying Qualls on board, making 11 of us now

hey i'm in

Going with Skank Bloc Polonia instead of War Inna Papelbon

LETS DO THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUt2BNwG3CE

woot - figured out how to set the keepers - i can finally sleep well tonight!

My keepers are BPosey, CGonzalez, CCrawford, JHamilton, and JVerlander.

i'm seriously jealous of 90% of the other team's picks.

yeah, polyphonic's keepers are off the chain

i think we have our league's yankees here.

Well, I only get to keep Crawford and Hamilton for one more season!

How late can we declare our keepers?

ahhh - i dunno. someone suggested two weeks before the draft and i'd be fine with that.
how about - let me know by march.

my team name is currently 'go grab my beltre', for the record

and my keepers are officially the same list i posted upthread:

jon lester (27)
josh johnson (27)
joey votto (27)
troy tulowitzki (26)
jay bruce (24)

teams dragging your feet on keepers, we know who you are.

you're not going to gain a competitive advantage monitoring spring training and/or injuries.

and you're one of them!

in all fairness tho - if Joey Votto get repeatedly hit by a train on March 2nd - i'm not going to force ciderpress to keep him.

i like the imagery of the train stopping, backing up, and and then plowing into him again to meet your repeatedly qualifier.

geovany lord sotosyn:

bailey (26)
loney (26)
marmol (28)
alexei ramirez (29)
chris young (27)

http://qag.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0018/80631/04._Sonatine.jpg

how about we can change our keepers if they aren't on the 40-man roster on opening day? (i.e. they are on 60-day DL or restricted list. or dead.)

err on draft day i mean not opening day

i'm surprised some enterprising small market team hasn't pried loney from the dodgers yet, he's underhit his high line drive rate for 2 seasons now and you can't keep hitting line drives straight at fielders forever

I'd like to read something more promising than "Concussion survivor Justin Morneau has picked up a baseball bat," but

Fielder
Morneau
Gallardo
Greinke
Weaver

sorry ciderpress - changing even one team's keepers means unlocking the league and doing everything (all the teams etc) all over again. doing all of that on the day of the draft is not a thing i'd like to do!

alright well i don't expect it to happen to anyone anyway

may as well hold thermo to his "by march" stance (*roots for ciderpresses stud keepers 2 slip in the shower*)

*exceptions made for freak accidents or acts of god/train.

I'm holding out a couple weeks too, I'm still in deep thought about a pick between 2 guys

In case you need it again, here is ANAL KENT's five:

Ryan Braun 27.39
David Wright 28.3
John Danks 25.98
Madison Bumgarner 21.68
Martin Pardo 27.44

OK, so I'm starting to think about putting together a list of players that are already taken so I can think about what positions/players to target during the draft. Here's what I've got so far:

sorted by team

TEAM	        Player	        Pos.    Age
ciderpress	Jon Lester	SP	27
ciderpress	Josh Johnson	SP	27
ciderpress	Joey Votto	1B	27
ciderpress	Troy Tulowitzki	SS	26
ciderpress	Jay Bruce	OF	24
omar little	Andrew Bailey	RP	26
omar little	James Loney	1B	26
omar little	Carlos Marmol	RP	28
omar little	Alexei Ramirez	SS	29
omar little	Chris Young	OF	27
J0rdan S	Elvis Andrus	SS	22
J0rdan S	Miguel Cabrera	1B	27
J0rdan S	Shin-Soo Choo	OF	28
J0rdan S	Mike Stanton	OF	21
J0rdan S	Ricky Nolasco	SP	28
bnw	        Jorge de la Rosa SP	29
bnw	        Brandon Phillips 2B	29
bnw	        Chris Perez	RP	25
bnw	        Tim Lincecum	SP	26
bnw	        Austin Jackson	OF	24
thermo	        Matt Wieters	C	24
thermo	        Felix Hernandez	SP	24
thermo	        Dexter Fowler	OF	25
thermo	        Nick Markakis	OF	27
thermo	        Cole Hamels 	SP	27
Leee	        Ryan Braun	OF	27
Leee	        David Wright	3B	28
Leee	        John Danks	SP	26
Leee	        Madison Bumgarner SP	21
Leee	        Martin Prado	2B, 3B	27
Andy K	        Prince Fielder	1B	26
Andy K	        Justin Morneau	1B	29
Andy K       	Yovani Gallardo	SP	24
Andy K	        Zack Greinke	SP	27
Andy K	        Jered Weaver	SP	28
mayor jberries	Carlos Quentin	OF	28
mayor jberries	Corey Hart	OF	29
mayor jberries	Matt Kemp	OF	26
mayor jberries	Ubaldo Jimenez	SP	27
mayor jberries	David Price	SP	25
Z S	        Robinson Cano	2B	28
Z S	        Jose Reyes	SS	27
Z S	        Brett Anderson	SP	23
Z S	        Matt Cain	SP	26
Z S	        Mike Napoli	C	29 (OR SPAN)
Z S	        Denard Span	OF	27 (OR NAPOLI)
johnny crunch	Colby Rasmus	OF	24
johnny crunch	Justin Upton	OF	23
johnny crunch	Adrian Gonzalez	1B	28
johnny crunch	Kendry Morales	1B	27
johnny crunch	David Aardsma	RP	29
NoTimeB4Time	Joe Mauer	C	27
NoTimeB4Time	Ryan Zimmerman	3B	26
NoTimeB4Time	Clayton Kershaw	SP	23
NoTimeB4Time	Stephen Strasburg SP	22
NoTimeB4Time	Andre Ethier	OF	28
polyphonic	Buster Posey	C	24
polyphonic	Carlos Gonzalez	OF	25
polyphonic	Carl Crawford	OF	29
polyphonic	Josh Hamilton	OF	29
polyphonic	Justin Verlander SP	28

sorted by position

TEAM	        Player	        Pos.    Age
ciderpress	Joey Votto	1B	27
omar little	James Loney	1B	26
J0rdan S	Miguel Cabrera	1B	27
Andy K	        Prince Fielder	1B	26
Andy K	        Justin Morneau	1B	29
johnny crunch	Adrian Gonzalez	1B	28
johnny crunch	Kendry Morales	1B	27
bnw	        Brandon Phillips 2B	29
Z S	        Robinson Cano	2B	28
Leee	        Martin Prado	2B, 3B	27
Leee	        David Wright	3B	28
NoTimeB4Time	Ryan Zimmerman	3B	26
thermo      	Matt Wieters	C	24
Z S	        Mike Napoli	C	29
NoTimeB4Time	Joe Mauer	C	27
polyphonic	Buster Posey	C	24
ciderpress	Jay Bruce	OF	24
omar little	Chris Young	OF	27
J0rdan S	Shin-Soo Choo	OF	28
J0rdan S	Mike Stanton	OF	21
bnw	        Austin Jackson	OF	24
thermo	        Dexter Fowler	OF	25
thermo         	Nick Markakis	OF	27
Leee	        Ryan Braun	OF	27
mayor jberries	Carlos Quentin	OF	28
mayor jberries	Corey Hart	OF	29
mayor jberries	Matt Kemp	OF	26
Z S	        Denard Span	OF	27
johnny crunch	Colby Rasmus	OF	24
johnny crunch	Justin Upton	OF	23
NoTimeB4Time	Andre Ethier	OF	28
polyphonic	Carlos Gonzalez	OF	25
polyphonic	Carl Crawford	OF	29
polyphonic	Josh Hamilton	OF	29
omar little	Andrew Bailey	RP	26
omar little	Carlos Marmol	RP	28
bnw	        Chris Perez	RP	25
johnny crunch	David Aardsma	RP	29
ciderpress	Jon Lester	SP	27
ciderpress	Josh Johnson	SP	27
J0rdan S	Ricky Nolasco	SP	28
bnw	        Jorge de la Rosa SP	29
bnw	        Tim Lincecum	SP	26
thermo	        Felix Hernandez	SP	24
thermo       	Cole Hamels 	SP	27
Leee	        John Danks	SP	26
Leee	        Madison Bumgarner SP	21
Andy K       	Yovani Gallardo	SP	24
Andy K	        Zack Greinke	SP	27
Andy K	        Jered Weaver	SP	28
mayor jberries	Ubaldo Jimenez	SP	27
mayor jberries	David Price	SP	25
Z S	        Brett Anderson	SP	23
Z S	        Matt Cain	SP	26
NoTimeB4Time	Clayton Kershaw	SP	23
NoTimeB4Time	Stephen Strasburg SP	22
polyphonic	Justin Verlander SP	28
ciderpress	Troy Tulowitzki	SS	26
omar little	Alexei Ramirez	SS	29
J0rdan S	Elvis Andrus	SS	22
Z S	        Jose Reyes	SS	27

there are 14 teams registered, only 12 have named their keepers. I'll update this list again before the draft.

really torn about keeping Napoli or Span. the pre-rankings that I've seen have Napoli at around #7-8 for the catcher position (even though he'll mainly be filling a utility role in TX, he's still C-eligible), and catcher is a pretty weak position so it would tempting to just keep him, but...what if he only gets 200 PA's or something?

Hey, I go to the trouble of giving you floating point ages, and you go and truncate them into ints????????

my shame is compounding the longer this spreadsheet stays open!
*closes it*

i am so happy to see someone else being as nerdy about this as i am.

Ok, here you go then i feel bad for holding out now :D

27-29: Adam Lind, Kelly Johnson
<26: Thomas J. "Handsome Tommy" Hanson, Neftali Feliz, Carlos "Supernatural" Santana

Really wish i paid attention to who i was drafting in the 27-29 range

teams that haven't weighed in yet:

impatient youth (heyward!)
BJ Upton Top Ranking (Hanley Ramirez!)
Kneel before Zaun! (Longoria!)

Impatient Youth is me -- I said a few months ago that I was dropping out. Still hoping somebody is willing to pick up my team, but if not, Heyward is going to be a mighty tempting early pick in this league.

McCann, too!

gwow...i thought i piped up earlier.

longoria
matusz
pedroia
latos
reynolds

still trawling the fantasy thread tho, eh Will?!

I'm going to follow you guys all season long! For the LOLs! The sub-boards that I do follow, like Comics/Cooking/Baseball, I follow closely. I just don't want to play fantasy sports anymore, it quit being fun. :/

ok, i feel stupid for even deliberating on it for so long but I'm keeping Napoli over Denard Span. (my main concern w/ Napoli was that he'd just be platooning at 1B, but I forgot that it's the AL and he can fill in at DH too, as well as the occasional turn at catcher)

So, just to make it official, that leaves me with:

Cain
Brett Anderson
Reyes
Cano
Napoli

I thought Napoli was the starting catcher. Is Torrealba starting?

Pretty sure Torrealba is starting, yep. :/

fine fine fine

Hanley Ramírez 27
Francisco Liriano 27
Adam Jones 25
Ian Stewart 25
Jonathong Sánchez 28

Jordan: why you no sign up??

so man, most of the SP aces are already taken.

Taken: Lincecum, Hernandez, Johnson, Jiminez, Lester, Price, Kershaw, Verlander, Greinke, Hanson, Ltos, Liriano, Hamels, Gallardo, Weaver, Cain

Available to draft: Halladay, Wainwright, Lee, Sabathia, and Carpenter

you have to spend two picks for joba. because he is a fatty.

actually my favorite part of fantasy baseball is building my pitching rotation from the april waiver wire. aces are overrated. (says the guy who has lester and j.johnson as keepers)

Available to draft: Halladay, Wainwright, Lee, Sabathia, and Carpenter

― OH YEAAAAH! (Z S), Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:50 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

And then there were four.

i finally registered

cheers!

ok, tonight i will lock the league and set keepers. so speak now or forever yadda yadda...

I look forward to finishing in the bpttom tier again. I tried to mollify myself in thinking that my keepers would make my team sucking so hard last year worth it this year, but we shall see.

Gardenhire said Sunday that Morneau was scheduled to see a doctor in order to gain clearance to play in games, but he didn't have anything to add on Monday. "I have no idea," said Gardenhire. "I'm not even getting into that. That's done. Don't ask me about him anymore. You're going to start tweeting it and blogging it. That's over with."

OK Gardy that's GREAT.

Uh.

Thermo, can you please swap out Morneau for Andrew McCutchen? Thanks and sorry.

Opening day ages:

Weaver 28
Greinke 27
Fielder 26
Gallardo 25
McCutchen 24

for some insane reason I joined another keeper league with $ involved. there is no age limit on keepers but you can only keep players drafted during/after round 10. weird, eh?

np. *crosses McCutchen off list*

xpost

ya - i've heard of that before. that way there isn't a monopoly on elite talent and it's much easier to manage than having to run through everybody's age (ours is still better tho).

*adds Morneau onto the "maybe if shit gets crazy" list*

last year i didn't check anyone for injuries (\_(OO)-/) and ended up drafting Brandon Webb, Carlos Beltran AND Huston Street

i'll stick w/ the 5 i posted upthread, even tho it sounds like kendry may not be ready by opening day :(

it is done.

you can see the first 5 rounds of the draft under "draft results". if you see a mistake FOR THE LOVE OF GOD please let me know asap.

mine look good!

*plots pick #13*

I'm supposed to have Lincecum instead of Danks.

j/k

The top 10 of Lester, Andrus, Cano, Bailey, Mark Reynolds, Rasmus, Quentin, Jorge de la Rosa, King Felix, and Adam Lind is a lolzy traet.

And hey! I have what amounts to our #2 pick overall! ^_^ SKINNY PANDA AHOY.

is there any way to add or subtract a round to the draft? having 5 keeper picks has given us an odd number of actual draft rounds, which handicaps the people who pick late in odd numbered rounds (i.e. me)

i guess it's probably locked to # of roster spaces though :/

ya - i hadn't thought abt that. oh well - do we really care about pick #20 whatever?!

and ya - 'tis locked.

uh who is the 9th best player in the draft pool.. I would imagine grabbing a closer soonish is a good idea since I have no rps whatsoever and its already round 6.

9th best player left in my estimation is Nick Punto

Does everyone else still see the people who have already been drafted in the predraft rankings?

Is the list of available players up somewhere or does more commissioner work have to be done? no pressure thermo, just bored at work

i've done everything i needed to do. whatever yahoo lists is what they list.
Z S was awesome enough to list all our keepers upthread tho. which, aside from the Morneau/McCutchen swap, should be accurate.

when i was plugging in the keeper picks it was greying out everyone selected. going by yahoo's rankings, #s1-12 (or maybe 13) were all taken followed by a clump of old people about 5 or so deep then another half dozen more keeper pics before things meshed into more of a 50/50 ratio for a while.

Here's the Yahoo! Top 50 with the keepers removed:

1. Albert Pujols
2. Chase Utley
3. Roy Halladay
4. Ryan Howard
5. Álex Rodríguez
6. Mark Teixeira
7. Kevin Youkilis
8. Matt Holliday
9. Nelson Cruz
10. Ian Kinsler
11. Dan Uggla
12. Cliff Lee
13. José Bautista
14. Jimmy Rollins
15. Víctor Martínez
16. Adrián Béltre
17. Jason Heyward
18. Adam Dunn
19. Rickie Weeks
20. Derek Jeter
21. Ichiro Suzuki
22. Brian McCann
23. Billy Butler
24. CC Sabathia
25. Hunter Pence
26. Justin Morneau
27. Jayson Werth
28. Álex Ríos
29. Mariano Rivera
30. Aramis Ramírez
31. Brian Wilson
32. Joakim Soria
33. Michael Young
34. Drew Stubbs
35. Shane Victorino
36. B.J. Upton
37. Pedro Alvarez
38. Heath Bell
39. Jacoby Ellsbury
40. Dan Haren
41. Stephen Drew
42. Roy Oswalt
43. Delmon Young
44. Jonathan Papelbon
45. Paul Konerko
46. Max Scherzer
47. Chris Carpenter
48. Brian Roberts
49. Ben Zobrist
50. Casey McGehee

whoa did someone not keep heyward?

i was hoping no one else would notice. but he was on Will's now defunct team. r.i.p.

Jimmy Rollins what in the fuck are you doing at #14

Delmon Young: 43rd best available player.

You gotta take Y! rankings with a huge grain of salt, of course.

Are yahoo's rankings based on the conventional wisdom of all the mock drafts going on?

I kept thinking someone who didn't play last year would pick up my team just for the chance to get Heyward/McCann/Wainwright(RIP)!

theres surprisingly few players on that list that i like to have a great 2011 season

51. Jeff Weaver
52. Jeff Francoeur
53. Jeff Blauser

i ate 10 tacos next to jeff weaver last night!

draft this sunday, bitches! also: be aware of the daylight savings factor.

Ugh, I have out of state company staying with me all weekend, and plans to "sight see" on Sunday. My fiancée has informed me that skipping out to do "fake baseball crap" will be "the lamest shit ever".

Terrified of having to autodraft. :/

MOVE THE DRAFT

I mean, is there a way to do it so that the autodraft knows your position priorities. Like, if you give it an ordered list of 10 1B, would it pickthe highest available 1B, and then the next round move on to fill another position for me? Or would it keep picking 1B until all 10 on my list were gone?

what you need to do is contract the flu by sunday.

and no - as far as i'm aware the autodraft is still as dumb as a bag of hammers. my only advice (aside from the flu) is to pre-rank like a mo-fo and favour said positions.

and also pray.

This sounds like a case for...

EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA

with the first 5 rounds out of the way it should keep our draft under two hours tho - i don't see why you can't site-see-supervise for part of the day still.

xpost YES

What time is the draft again? (sorry, I'm iphoning and cant check)

erm...

3 pm est. 2 pm if you forget to set your clocks ahead.

i'm at a loss here, does life on Earth as we know it end on New Year's 2012 or directly after New Year's 2011? this is really throwing a wrench into my keeper strategy.

I believe it's sometime during December 2012

"The 2012 phenomenon comprises a range of eschatological beliefs that cataclysmic or transformative events will occur on December 21, 2012,[1][2][3] which is said to be the end-date of a 5,125-year-long cycle in the Mayan Long Count calendar. Various astronomical alignments and numerological formulae related to this date have been proposed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

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http://www.logotypes101.com/files/513/d269a8be518e4e9f3f581db97c0b2e21/lrg_Las_Vegas_51s125.gif

Z S, if it makes you feel any better, I came out on top of a league with a roster that began 100% auto-drafted, and I've finished second and fourth in THIS league with partially auto-drafted teams and judgments made with little/no thought due to my kids running interference.

I love the "How to Prepare For and What to Do on Draft Day" articles that tell you to go to bed early, take vitamin C, eat fruit, and ask for divine intervention ('cause you surely will be fucked otherwise).

as per my tradition, i plan on getting stoned.

everybody must.

oh, wait...

you have got to be kidding me.

i'm going away this weekend for my one-year anniversary and will miss the draft, which i missed last year because i was getting married.

i pre-ranked last year and all i have are players their own mothers would feel ambivalent about having as their keeper picks.

I love the "How to Prepare For and What to Do on Draft Day" articles that tell you to go to bed early, take vitamin C, eat fruit, and ask for divine intervention ('cause you surely will be fucked otherwise).

I remember reading a similar article advising people to stay sober if everybody else was drinking at the (presumably in person) draft. Just lolling at the thought of sitting there alone, intensely shuffling papers while everybody else chills out around you.

I guess when money is involved people take it a little more seriously.

my money league last year was won by my weird astros fan friend who drafted half the astros offense and traded all his decent players away for washed up veterans and dropped Mat Latos at the end of April much to my benefit

so yeah don't play fantasy for money imo

I get to do the draft today, AND I don't have explosive diarrhea! Today's going to be a great day!

I did a mock draft yesterday on yahoo, which was actually sort of fun although probably not very useful.

30 mins!

shit is not re-loading for me :(
gonna be funny who i get

my connection is fine now, does it not let you in once it starts? welp,

ive tried every link i could find for 20 mins & it wont load

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/18268/15/enterdraft

?

that one doesnt even try to load

There was a problem

* You cannot enter the draft for this team. (Error #439)

these are the ones from the home page/draft central and wont load for me at all now. i guess the like 1m my internet was the exactly worst time

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/18268/enterdraft
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/18268/2/enterdraft

its ok tho guys

which team r u

77 active uzrs

you're actually looking okay

i did start to feverishly drag and drop for the while i had access

oh shitty dude - only checked the thread now.

meh i can work w/ these guys - plus i went out and ran some errands i was procrastinating on so ~w/e~ mister yahoo u can suk it

Good luck everyone!

I kinda thought I had a balanced team this year, unlike most years when I end up totally punting a category like SV or NSB and it ends up biting me in the ass, but now I'm looking at my hitters and realized I might be staring a .375 team SLG in the face.

one last time, just to be annoying - if everyone changes their "team slogan" to their ILX name it'll be way easier to track who is who

if you're into that kind of thing

Through a combination of managerial incompetence and Yahoo! inscrutability, I have ended up with four 2B-eligible guys, five 1B-eligibles, and no SS. Please make me offers. (Also looking for RP.)

Barry - i think i might actually be harder up than you with SLG!
will trade for tacos!

i have a lot of keeper eligible dudes this year - i think i went a bit overboard in putting the "***KEEPER!!***" marker by certain players in spreadsheet!

also, for some reason mixed up Eric Hosmer with the other KC infield prospect, Mike Moustakas. Moutstakas is expected to get significant playing time this year. Hosmer is behind Billy Butler, and is expected to drink beer with his minor league friends this year.

if Hosmer mashes at AAA they could bring him up and bump Butler to DH. probably smarter of them to wait until all their pitching is ready to come up too though.

ya - i have a shit tonne of keepers too. how attached are you to Dunn, Z?

pretty attached, because i don't really have an alternative at 1B. are you thinking of giving up butler?

Given my 1B surplus, maybe we can swing a 3-way?

maybe...though not likely tbh. I was pretty ok with dunn, actually (he was my first pick) - i'd have to get a mighty sweet deal to deal him away.

probably not going to even pay attention this year tbh, so the fact that i had to autodraft for a second year in a row and didn't really pre-rank too much isn't a big deal. done after this year, though.

xp this is the last time I suggest a three-way.

lol

lol adhd drug concerta advertising heavily on yahoo fantasy. they know their audience.

MONETIZING EYEBALLS

i would def be down with trading Butler - but ya, i can understand wanting to hang on to Dunn obv.
think i'd be better off taking a wait and see approach anyways. Butler, Weiters, Castro, Heyward and even Figgins should all slug a little better this year.
RIGHT?

Sweet Christ I had Chone last year.. Got him like 6th-7th round thinking I was so smug in drafting him.. =\

heh - ya. needless to say i'm praying for a bounce-back season (and 3B eligibility)!

Is there a way to manually input the waiver order, considering the fact that the draft actually was flipped due to starting in round 6?

i will have a look.

you guys kill me btw

fixed!

Thanks Thermo!

when do the waiver claims go thru

it says two days in the settings, so does that mean that the first claims will go thru tomorrow?

it should say on your team page when it will go through.

aight

Do we have to wait for the start of the season before guys are DL-eligible?

i'm going to put you on the DL in a minute!

wait i lost my unfair 1st pick and 1st claim due to the odd numbeer of rounds haha

i was not messing with anyone at draft, sat there for a minute waiting for it to start thinking i was 15th, never seen yahoo rejigger at the bell like that.

i love this from the "recent transactions" box:
Waiver Priority changed from 'old order' to 'new order'

YOU HEAR THAT? THERE'S A NEW FUCKING ORDER 'ROUND HEAH!

oh, you've got green eyes oh, you've got blue eyes oh, you've got grey eyes

so i took the 2011 projections from Fangraphs for my team and shuffled it into the 2010 stats/standings to see where i'd wind up. somewhere between 3rd and 5th, apparently! 4th worst home runs totals tho :s

counting stat projections are basically BS though

at least for lineup dependent ones like R and RBI i mean

it was all pretty much bs. i fully admit this.

Mar 16 3:18am Kyle Farnsworth (TB - RP) Player notes Add Free Agents The CarGo-Go's

i like the cut of your jib

yes - first place is now officially up for grabs!

I did it!

so you guys were right. Berkman was still out there waiting for me!

...and i failed to pull the trigger on bedard. bah!

now i have to be the bitter guy that says, "enjoy all 5 starts you get out of him."

...and he'll get 28 just to spite me.

Bedard and Davis were good pickups i saw on our transaction-o-meter.

man, Drew Stubbs is kicking ASS this spring!

(42 at-bats, 20 strikeouts, two walks)

spring

42 at-bats

i don't care what the context is - that's an awe aspiring strikeout total!

I would've given you something for Ackley for what it's worth.

damn. sorry. out of curiosity - what?

looking at yr bench, tbh, i don't think there's anything i would have been after. just wanted a power bat to help offset the damage Figgins is going to do to my slg.

denard dawg got recycled

I'm not sure who I would've given, but it's a bummer to see a keeperable guy like that hit the waiver wire.

josh thole's cup of coffee only lasted 5 minutes.. :(

Span, I think, was one of the late-round auto-picks made after my daughter turned off the computer.

Maybe I should have asked a fantasy expert about which OF to release between Span, McCutchen, Ordonez, Guerrero, Willingham, Manny.

When I made the cut, I had two RPs.

I'm a fantasy expert, you should have traded McCutchen to me for Clay Hensley

Whats the rules on the dl? Can we add players without dropping if we got dudes on the dl?

Heyward! :D

leading MLB in home runs

Anyone want a first baseman? I'm looking for a pitcher in return (preferably starting)

D. Lee, Kila, or Gaby Sanchez (Youk's my 3B)

id like a closer if any1 has a surplus

Im sure someone might trade you an axford and his 54 era

haha, yeah i watched that 9th inning go down, wow

Oh, and I have Lind on offer (OF/1B) as well

im gonna savor this as probably the only time im in 1st place all season

oh - btw. DL works exactly the same as last year and the year before and the year etc etc.

My good pitch no hit team is living up to its billing already and we're only part way through Day #2. I guess I should give it a couple of weeks before doing anything crazy though.

i will now do the same as johnny today.

Thanks to Carlos Quentin for making yesterday so special. No thanks to David Price and Ubaldo being juuuust mediocre enough to not give me a points bonanza..

Ah, good old 12th place.

Jésus, the front-end of my rotation is so incredibly buttsy (9.72 ERA, 1.62 WHIP) while my heh heh back-end is throwing up goose-eggs (yeah yeah first day statistical vomit/jinxing caveats etc.).

i quite enjoyed yesterday's 1.200 slugging from elvis andrus

Having missed out on Howie Kendrick's 2-HR day, it comes down to young Brandon Belt to pick up the slack. Swing for the fences, young man!

i was feeling really good about today after miguel cabrera was 2/2 with 2 homers... then my OF & util went 0/15

some dude in my other league just collected 8 hrs today!

Classic second-guess, but...shouldn't Lind be taking the first pitch during the 9th yesterday, after Nathan's just walked two guys in a row? Anyway, it's a good feeling to care enough to even bother watching. That hasn't been true for a long time with me.

I KNOW! that's what i was saying. Nathin was obv having some control issues - way swing at the first thing you see?!

aside from that - E5's continued presence at third continues to baffle/enrage.

ooops - this should probably be on the J's thread.

Thermo does that other dude in your fantasy league own all the of players on the texas rangers?

lol - just Napoli.

Sorry--my Lind post above was meant for the Jays page. I probably saw Thermo's name and thought that's where I was.

Hah.

no longo and no holliday make higgy something something.

kinda needed latos and matusz, too.

fahk.

long season

how are INF k/bb ratios calculated

in terms of scoring

BUMP

can i get a bump justification here

how are INF k/bb ratios calculated

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:04 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in terms of scoring

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:05 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

it resolved itself now because leo nunez walked a guy but say i had two pitchers combine for 8 Ks and 0 BBs, what does it get calculated as?

oh, duh, sorry! i have this thread bookmarked so when i brought it up i didn't see the context. i thought you were bragging 2011 about the 3 points you gained tonight

Not exactly sure what you're asking, Jordan. Had your staff finished with 8 Ks and 0 BBs for the day, the number of Ks would merely factor into the ratio, while you'd have no additional walks to factor. If your staff had 50 Ks and 20 BBs going into today (for a K/BB of 2.5), your new ratio would be 2.9 (58/20).

oh yeah i guess that makes sense

I'M NOT REALLY A "MATH PERSON"

The K/BB stat isn't an average of each day's K/BB, but the season's Ks divided by the season's BBs.

yeah i got it

lol j0rdan

ALRIGHT YOU GUYS

you guys

how does the batting average work

OOOOOKAY

hahaha :)

hey guys - what did i miss?

i originally read your question as asking to calculate the k/bb ratio for your infield.

Nobody's going to roll the dice on lol Willie Bloomquist? (ranked #6 for the season according to yahoo)

Stephen Drew is surely coming back soon, right?

they are saying tomorrow. hate that stealth "not on the dl but not playing" shit.

also I didn't start Halladay today in my $ league. FUCK DAY GAMES.

i have drew in my two other leagues -- picked up yunel in one, now starting bloomquist -- starting infante in the other

drew did pinch hit the other day

wow...swish broke nishioka's leg today.

damn dude. and err thanks for the fantasy advice i guess. i had Tosh.0 Nishioka on two other money teams, that sucks for kaz matsui 2..

DROPPED

So, somehow I have 4 closers right now. I might be willing to deal one of them for...

1) a strong everyday catcher (in this scenario, I would throw in Michael Napoli, who is great when he plays - right now he's getting platooned yet again for no fucking reason, just like last year)

2) a strong outfielder (in this scenario, I would throw in one of my 6 outfielders to replace the outfielder that would hypothetically be dealt to me.

3) if anyone wants to take a look at my lineup and sees a deal that would make sense for both of us, let me know.

has Papelbon lost the closer job yet? how many saves is he at?

I believe he hasnt had the chance to blow any..

I was looking at polyphonics position players last night.. goddamn!

yeah, his keepers alone (Crawford, Cargo, Posey, Hamilton) are a solid core.

If it makes you feel better I lose Crawford and Hamilton after this year.

it does.
that and the knowledge i will have Heyward for 8.

your team is going to be pretty awesome in six years

William Bloompsquist for SS/3B backup (probably more value than Tejada since he's leading off, stealing the occasional base, anyway) now that Manny is gone.

just grab Casey Kotchman. if hes good enough for Tampa Bay to replace Manny, he is good enough for your fantasy team amirite.

My downward spiral begins: -29 points in the standings for me today, dead last in R and HR, pitching staff slipping from great to merely good. At least I was in second for a day earlier this week, it's looking like that'll be the highlight of my season.

just grab Casey Kotchman. if hes good enough for Tampa Bay to replace Manny, he is good enough for your fantasy team amirite.

― strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Friday, April 8, 2011 5:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Needed 3B/SS backup and my NSB is currently -1.

What the hell? Tied for second??? Think it's time for a SALARY DUMP.

Actually I was musing about the possibility of contending teams renting non-keeper players by trading their keeper-eligibles. Would be kool!

that's how most keeper leagues work but we're pretty mellow and sabr. kind of refreshing that no one cares too much what place they finish in.

if i don't finish in the top 3, i'll saw my right arm off

we should do a keeper league where the number of limbs you get to keep at the end of the season depends on how you place

YOU ALL MOCKED MY LOVE FOR ALL THINGS BERKMAN BUT WHO IS LAUGHING NOW?!

Right after I dropped him in my other league, ugh

don't look at what he did tonight.

:D

ARGH

BERKMAN

don't own him, but go cardinals

i do... but ahhhh - also have Kennedy.

on two teams :s

that was a level 7 meltdown.

Head's up:

I'm about to drop Travis Snider, who is keeper eligible. It's true that he's started off the season pretty poorly, but I think he'll do fine over the course of the year - I just have a surplus of Outfielders and he's wasting space on my bench, I have another OF coming off the DL soon, so..

anyway, if anyone wants to trade let me know, I'll wait a few hours before pulling the trigger. He's keeper-eligible so I didn't want to piss anyone off by not offering him up first, just in case.

Tulo is hitting like a god btw

way to learn from my mistake, Z!

wow - another taco for Berkman!

jeff francoeur is the 18th ranked player in mlb rite now

another head's up, and this one might seem more enticing:

I'm trying to clear roster space (to activate gr8080 sizemore from the DL), so i'm looking to trade Kevin Gregg (baltimore's closer) and maybe Torii Hunter for...something good in return. any offers?

I go away for the weekend and come back to find six guys on the DL (three of them were on the DL before I left, but still)! How am I still in 6th place?

how do I switch out two players on the dl? Basically I have Ubaldo coming off the DL to start tomorrow and I need to replace him with Hong Chih Kuo who can be dl'd but it keeps telling me Im over the roster size.

Are you trying to switch on today's date? That won't work. Try tomorrow's date.

you'll have to switch them both at the same time before submitting your new roster.

Francoeur has just been added to a roster!
i give it 4 days!

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Johnny+Damon+Manny+Ramirez+Introduced+Tampa+Kpc4G1NcdiGl.jpg

Really hate watching Russell Martin pile up numbers on my bench. No one needs a catcher?

i do, make me an offer

Hmm, the only guys on your roster I really want are guys you drafted in the top 9 rounds. Dunno if you'd want to do that deal for a guy I got off the wire.

1) a strong everyday catcher (in this scenario, I would throw in Michael Napoli, who is great when he plays - right now he's getting platooned yet again for no fucking reason, just like last year)

serious wtf @ this. SLG .844, OPS 1.32 everyday player? Nope!

yeah, idgi. he's playing a bit more often lately, so the offer is off for now, i guess. but he's still only playing maybe 3 out of every 5 games. it's baffling, and especially frustrating after i had him all last season, where mike scioscia also platooned the fuck out of him.

now i have the immortal john buck as my backup catcher, but thermo a couple weeks ago i would've given you a sweet deal for russell martin!

i never had martin,

i'm the guy stuck with Weiters.

oops, i meant polyphonic!

I'm surprised at my team's jump in the standings over the past week -- my best two hitters are still on the DL. OTOH, I'm happy that Phil Hughes caught teh dead arm because that guy was singlehandedly killing my pitching stats.

i enjoy that my team continues to be near the bottom in the boring bullshit fundamental categories of bbs, gidps & fielding % and still @ the top of the standings

its like an irl team i would root for and simultaneously be infuriated by

i'm feeling okay about my team's .458/1.167 line so far tonight

When are you gonna reject that trade

ha -- soon

I'm back in the top 10!

damn I got my balls crushed last night..

and now it seems with Corey Hart back from the DL, I too, have a glut of outfielders.. If anyone has a need lemme know.

Hart did nothing in the minors, gonna leave him benched in $ league. (That means he will probably hit 3 tacos.)

I grabbed Michael Bourn in the draft because I realized he was gonna be out for awhile.. Feel like I should be keeping MB and jettisoning either Quentin or Hart..

Phil Hughes' arm is fucked, at least for now. But he's keeper eligible and I'd hang onto him but I have other young pitchers and too many guys already on the DL. If anyone wants to make me a trade offer, you can probably have him for spare parts, otherwise I'll release him by the end of the weekend.

i was looking to pick up a hot hitting catcher and bounce Iannetta.. until I realized Iannetta is the best hitter on my team.

/player dump in july

Hudson and Ogando are on the trading block. Need middle infield and outfield.

(Tim Hudson)

CarGo is really giving Crawford and Hamilton some competition for my most disappointing keeper.

I will gladly keep them if you want to dump them!

kicked austin jackson to the curb. I knew in my heart he wasn't a keeper all along </3

He could not quite solve Bartolo last night:

90 fastball / foul
92 fastball / called strike
94 fastball / called strike

92 fastball / called strike
94 fastball / foul
94 fastball / swinging strike

93 fastball / called strike
96 fastball / ball
94 fastball / foul
92 fastball / ball
93 fastball / called strike

93 fastball / swinging strike
93 fastball / foul
93 fastball / (weak ground out)

A double, a triple, an RBI, two runs off CC so far tonight...

Baseball is so weird.

kicked austin jackson to the curb. I knew in my heart he wasn't a keeper all along </3

― You Get Hoynes (bnw), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 5:23 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

it felt good putting ian stewart out of his misery. notes of optimism, like the ending of Old Yeller.

All your Hosmer are belong to me

Royals purchased the contract of 1B Eric Hosmer from Triple-A Omaha.
Hosmer is expected to arrive in Kansas City in time for Friday's game and should get his first career major league start against the visiting A's. The promising first base prospect has been on an absolute tear at the Triple-A level, sporting a .439/.525/.582 batting line and three home runs through 118 plate appearances. He is worth grabbing in deep mixed leagues.

woo! a 15 point jump for no discernible reason!

now that david aardsvarkma will remain in hiding for the foreseeable future, anyone want to deal a closer?

i (77 active uzrs) have a lot of SPs i could part w/

while we're at it -- i'm looking for some infield help (first base aside) and have more SPs than i prob need -- CC or carp or cahill or gavin floyd

how did my team get this fucking bad..?

how did my team get this fucking bad..?

z_s - trade accepted, lets hope it helps both teams. str8 edge cj is now a devasting probe!

Well, we have to wait a few days for it to go through, but yes, with any luck CJ will be probing with the rest of my team, with devastating results!

#grossestteamnameaward

i clearly cant spell or type this early #gettingmorecoffee

Wait a sec, CJ is straight-edge?? Get this asshole off my team, trade denied!!
;)

yar - 'tis a fine trade.

Great, now my *three* best hitters are on the DL (Ike Davis joins Mauer and Zimmerman). I'm not even sure I have an offense anymore.

Asking once more:

Would anyone like to trade for Alexi Ogando or Tim Hudson?

I'm looking for another starter but I can't make a deal because I have no roster flexibility (i.e. too many guys on the DL and thx for getting suspended BJ Upton!)

do you guys ever bench one of your SPs if they're starting against your favorite team irl? i knew i probably should have started Cueto today against the cards, but i didn't want to have to watch the game and root for him. so i sat him. and of course he dominated. :/

Anyone into trading for Matt LaPorta? Hes keeper eligible and since I snagged Hosmer I kinda dont need him. He's 1B/OF. Need a decent reliever I guess..

Don't we all! I'm already sorta regretting trading Cordero, because here's what happened to my other 3 "closers" since making the deal:

- Eduardo Sanchez lost the cards closer job
- Jordan walden looks like he might lose the Angels spot soon.
- Contreras is on the DL, but since Madson is doing well it looks like closer might not be his for the taking upon return. Also, brad lidge.

D'oh!

Some guys on another board I post on basically say never draft closers because once the season starts its bedlam.

The problem is that with our league, most of the setup guys get drafted as well.

Yep, exactly. Not only since there are so many teams in our league, but also because holds is a category.

i'm thinking i might have to toss Fowler out the airlock soon.

Looks like my freefall in the standings has started. I had a decent three-week run in second place with a depleted roster, which is a step up from my horrible 2010.

In most years I feel there are only about five closers whose jobs are safe and are unlikely to implode at some point during the season. If I can draft one of the five then great, if not then I might not bother drafting a closer. I've punted saves in the past because I'm more comfortable bringing in a revolving door of middle relievers who can help you in more than one category than hanging onto a closer who'll give you 25-30 SV but will kill you with a 4+ ERA and a shitty BB rate.

Wow, I was worried b/c two of my pitchers were facing eachother, but I really couldn't have drawn it up better myself:
Masterson: 8IP, 5H, 1ER, 2BB, 8K
Peavy: 9IP, 3H, 0ER, 0BB, 8K

1-0 White Sox, both pitched a complete game :D

zomg [2011-05-19]:
Geovany Soto - DL
Brian Roberts - DL
David Wright - DL
Chase Utley - DL
Angel Pagan - DL
Brandon Belt - NA

Stuff like that and scraping the bottom of the league, pretty sure this'll be my last year playing. :\

Brian Roberts is on the DL? who could have foreseen that?!

aw Leee - stop hurting me that way!

crap - forgot to start my starters yesterday. missed out on 2 QS's :(
stupid drinking.

Yeah, that's my excuse.

I am getting some positive karma sent back my way. Corey Hart had a 3 HR game on Monday and Carlos Quentin had 3 HRs last night. I will take this, thank u.

i really want another closer (yes, i realized i just traded away cordero last week *hangs head* / sad trombone). i've already unsuccessfully reached out to a couple of you, but i'll throw it out for everyone, one last time: i would give away ted lilly and/or wade davis and/or zambrano, for a closer. i guess that's only appealing to someone who has an overabundance of closers and not enough decent SPs, but i'm just throwing it out there.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to give up a legit closer to get any of those clowns. no offense!

But...what if you were blackout drunk? I probably should have proposed this at 2:30am

haha

Can I have Russell Martin back plz

adam dunn has gone 0 for 33 vs lefties this season.

i knew i never should have drafted that bubblegum blowing doofus

well, take solace that you don't owe him $56 million IRL

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201007/100708.01.jpg

damn

this is a glorping post but in another league on my bench today is:

Hanley
Dunn
Uggla

in their place a couple no names trending well the last two weeks. fuck this shit is bingo.

ha ha - my other team has Uggla, Ichiro and Pujols benched!

in their wake: Cuddyer, Joyce and Butler.

My team has lost points every day for literally two weeks straight. I think this is a personal fantasy baseball record or something.

So glad I quit playing this -- I enjoy baseball 1000X more now.
:: runs away ::

if i didn't play fantasy bb i'd have no idea what was going on in the NL. like at all.
did you guys know their pitcher hit?! madness.

did you guys know their pitcher hit?! madness.

Strategy, baby! j/k

DL parade continues:
Howie Kendrick
Tom Gorzelanny (ok lol @ me for picking him up in the first place)

the tom gorzel yanni experience

i always like to do this, p crazy list - best fantasy players, memorial day:

bautista
braun
kemp
grandyman
ade gonzalez
jay bruce
jacoby ellsbury
asdrubal cabrera
james shields
lance berkman

last yr

MEM DAY WKEND, THE BEST PLAYERS:

ubaldo
miggy
longoria
vlad
braun
morneau
cano
rios
wainwright
ethier

― johnny crunch, Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:04 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Asdrubal?! holy shit!

for the love of god get this face off of my fantasy sports page

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2011/05/ipt/1306342793.jpg

so ilb / sabr of us that melky cabrera is a y rated top 50 player in a barren 15 team league yet no one has picked him up off waivers. SOLIDARITY!

haha, yeah i was looking at him the other day, but fuck that, seriously

for real though, picking him up now is just asking for the regression

I have liberated Ian Desmond from my bench if anyone is desperate for steals.

Six guys on the DL, I can't even field a full lineup anymore :(

woah!

that's a pretty epic trade going through there!

It's a biggie!

Buster Posey?

WE CAN REBUILD HIM

not a good sign right now for Pap tho!

I also have Bard so I thought it was worth the risk.

my 1st place reign of terror is OVER

And my grip on last has just begun!

my yo-yo act continues unabated.

my entire bench is on the DL.

i'm very sorry about what i've done guys.
i know we were all very proud of having stayed away for so long - and we can still be very proud of how long we all resisted - but after having, at one point, six guys on the DL i had to clean house and in doing so was left with no choice but to... pick up Melky Cabrera.

I mighta considered it at some point if I hadn't keepered three outfielders.

somewhere out there, bill james just shed a tear, and has no idea why

In the middle of his afternoon jog, he suddenly stops, stares distantly, and screams "Melky Cabrera will regress!! He will regreeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss!!!!" and passes out

^ new team slogan!

http://0.tqn.com/d/specialchildren/1/0/b/1/note17.jpg

Melky's already had a cup of coffee with me this year!

...and he sucked until i dropped him

ZS did you notice that we are 1 and 2 just like we were at the end of last season?

i DID notice

given that a lot of your dudes were underperforming earlier this year while a lot of my dudes were overperforming, i'm not optimistic about my chances of overtaking you!

I don't know man. How will I win without Jeter?

canada day/4th o july best players update

kemp
verlander
braun
bautista
a-Gonz
crutis granderson
reyes
jered weaver
miggy
halladay

Watch out, I'm knocking on the top 10 (out of 15)!

i think its impossible for me 2 finish anywhere better than 3rd w/ last or 2nd to last in 4 categories (bbs, gidp, fielding, saves)

My team is so bad (and injured). In the last week they grounded into about a dozen double plays, as if my ranking in every other hitting category hadn't suffered enough in the past few weeks.

Melkey Cabrera just hit two home runs for my team today, guys.

Who's got Carlos Gonzalez? Best keep an eye on the medical reports :(

xp i was thinking, not sure how crowded the al of is, but hes prob a deserving all-star imo

kinda funny that in the al-only league im in one team decided 2 buy all the cabreras & is owning us all, in 1st by a wide margin

Who's got Carlos Gonzalez? Best keep an eye on the medical reports :(

Yeah I benched him for the next few days already.

kinda funny that in the al-only league im in one team decided 2 buy all the cabreras & is owning us all, in 1st by a wide margin

Haha that's amazing.

h ah haha - i always wanted to form a fantasy team based on having the fewest last names possible.
i'm 99% sure we talked about that idea a few years ago and how to best pull it off.

xposts

kinda funny that in the al-only league im in one team decided 2 buy all the cabreras & is owning us all, in 1st by a wide margin

i've drafted all mitchell report (2nd to last), a friend tried drafting all jew (i think someone stole his youkilis) but all-Cabrera is blowing my mind right now.

During a recent Indians-Tigers game, Miguel was standing on second during a pitching change, talking to Asdrubal and Orlando, and the CF camera closed in on their backs.

that's a pretty rad trade.

I like Geovany Lord Sotosyn's strategy of not bothering to have a catcher at all. Maybe I should do that at 3B until Chipper gets healthy.

I've done that in past years, it's a good strategy IMO.

xpost yeah, I like this trade (credit goes to 77 Active UZR's, who proposed it), my hitting has been awful this year so it's worthwhile gambling on keeper eligible players with upside.

whoooooooooooooops, i just dropped brett anderson since he's not pitching for the rest of this year, and possibly out for all of 2012 as well. but he is technically keeper eligible, so sorry if someone would have traded for him?

yea re: that trade, it struck me that 2 make any sort of run this yr, saves was prob the only counting stat where maybe i could add a handful of pts w/o sacrificing too much in another category. & i felt it would make sense for both sides so im happy u said yes

colby does have big upside but w/ his playing time at the whim of tlr its kinda maddening in fantasy world imo

heh, traded in VORPed minds *and* real life!

anyways - our trade dealine is almost two weeks away and i have a surplus of keepers. current needs are 2B, C and SP.
i'm on vacation in Poland right now so i might not respond right away, but i also may accept anything at the rate i'm dominating the beer/vodka here!

All of my non-Verlander starters are available, as is Dustin Ackley (who is not keeperable).

melky cabrera is ranked 19th in mlb, above albert pujlols

my team - still blows. I can probably part with cudduyer (sp?) but only if I am overwhelmed by a deal. jk

i might hit you up! you're short keepers, no?

I have no idea? Need to look.. My problem is I keep trying to find players who are good at alot of things but not really great at anything. Also probably handling pitching all wrong too..

HOW DARE SOMEONE ELSE HAVE MORE HOLDS THAN ME.

Next year, I need to cut back to one team (the one in this league) and limit the maintenance. I don't think I've made any moves for either team since April -- just shuffling the lineups around whenever I remember to look.

get at me for Pujols but i think CarGos has it in the bag.

michael cuddyer is officially on the trading block guys! he plays like every position!

dan uggla decided to not be worse than chone figgins anymore so I got that going for me now.

so on the train tonight Bonita Papelbon pops into my head. good thing i googled it on my phone as tracer stuck it in Bermanisms five years ago. making it worse he was only like the seventh google result a bunch of herbs from a phish message board were all over it ranking higher than ilx.

i had to squash latos intolerant and evan loggorhea earlier in the season after seeing how common they were.

so. i make that trade and *then* i read this about my IF safety net:

spiking Murphy hard in the process on a clean but awkward play. Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said Murphy has a substantial injury to his left knee and will be placed on the disabled list.

That play hurt to watch.

sounds painful.

alright. hopefully my bazillion trades will turn things around!

Billy Butler for Pujols is such an awesomely weird trade.

weird is one way to put it

I don't get that trade at all.

Butler is keeperable, Pujols isn't.

That's why I don't get it. Why trade a keeper eligible 1B for two months of (subpar) Pujols? Unless King Felix and BBQ Show thinks he can win the league this year with Pujols.

well why not then? i wasn't going to be keeping Butler - and Pujols over the last month has been much better.

i might not keep Butler either.. but i have him in another OBP/OPS/BB league and for that league his real value is far greater than his 5x5 yahoo rank. the offer came in unexpectedly.. damn just noticing now he had Kimbrel up for sale. :)

won't be keeping him either!

the problem is he's my only closer, so...

I see, if you're already loaded with keeper eligible players then it makes sense.

even tho he's bombed this year i'm not giving up on Heyward, and i decided i'd rather have Castro than Weiters. so that's in addition to Markakis, Hamels & King Felix. so that means Kennedy, Kimbrel and Freese are probably not sticking around.

hmmm, think i'll check rotowire and see what's going on with adam dunn since he's been in a slump his last 400 at bats or so
- "Dunn said he will ratchet up his offseason workout routine this winter, the Chicago Sun-Times reports. Dunn has a history of lax offseason work, and that may have been at the root of his historically bad 2011 season." F#@$^&#@$)(

best players, labor day 2011

verlander
kemp
granderson
braun
ellsbury
kershaw
adrian gonzalez
bautista
halladay
weaver

probably one of my biggest missteps in the draft this year was picking Adam "I'm" Dunn with in the first fucking round

Mark Trumbo is my starting 1B and is a vast improvement. sigh

He's trumbolievable.

one of the frustrating parts of this season has been the lack of playing time for mike napoli.

in only 320 AB, he's hitting .300/.397/.600, with 25 HR and 4.4 WAR.

i thought that perhaps he was getting platooned against righties, but here are his splits:

vs. right: .300/.391/.604
vs. left: .301/.410/.592

if he wasn't being benched half the time for no reason, dude might have 40-50 HR, 6-8 WAR! idgi

I picked up Matt Moore a week or two ago. I am genius.

Kind of flabbergasted that I'm not just in the top 10 again, but now @ #6. Fully expect freefall in coming weeks.

I am still in first place. ^___^

i'm going to have you tested.

I already peed in all of these cups so you can take your pick.

i will test the one with the most sediment at the bottom.

*cracks knuckles*

pretty pleased with my position considering i autodrafted and didn't even pre-rank.

wtg go grab my beltre -- hasnt updated since -- Tue May 17 9:11am EDT & still a solid 8th

i could have troll drafted a team entirely consisting of Cabreras, not made a single change or update, and still done better this year.

yahoo msg boards are still pretty lol:

What the "F K" 12-Sep-11 09:42 am
How does a tie give the Fantasy Guru the victory? this is bull@#$% this is under protest i cant believe this @#$%... This a travesty of the worst kind 75X worst than any scandal is sport history i will take this all the way to the inventor of fantasy baseball..my guys played hard all year this is ashamed they get treated this way...This has ruined the mindset of my young players....We hate you!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS WAR!!!!!!!!!!
WORST THAN RED SOX- YANKEES
STEELERS-RAVENS

ha ha!

i have only just now noticed and laughed like a lunatic at "Ohlendorf On Golf".

Suddenly my lead is in danger! Can I hold until Wednesday?!

A nearly 30 point lead is down to 6.5 points! Is this a choke?

Can my team make a late run and climb out of 12th place?

(answer to both questions: probably not)

a 7 point drop in 3 days isn't all that likely imho, but it is possible!

my team of scrappy white hustlers has hustled and scrapped its way into the top 5ish after being in 12th all damn year since I made some decent moves and Dan Uggla decided to stop hitting .180.

i was in the cellar early on and then had to scrap and grit my way to second place. first place is likely a difficult reach at this point, i'm hail marying it and banking on a few free agent pickups to carry me over the top.

4 point difference!

congrats polyphonic - on dominating us two years in a row now!
a fantasy dynasty is born!

i almost made it despite autodrafting from an unranked list! congrats poly.

autodraft landed u some guys that really panned out big that everyone was down on at the time - ellsbury, michael young, beckett, asdrubal

congrats 2 poly

heres the best ranked players, end of season edition:

Kemp
Verlander
Ellsbury
Braun
Kershaw
Granderson
Halladay
Cliff Lee
Miguel Cabrera
Adrian Gonzalez

yahoo list?

Wow, I jumped 11 points in the final few days and finished in 9th. What happened to the innings limit? I started benching guys toward the end of the season because I thought it would stop accumulating pitching stats once you went above 1400 IP. Or does it stop only after the day in which you pass 1400 IP? Case in point, I had 1399 IP before yesterday and benched everyone except for Strasburg.

We almost had our own version of this year's wild card races but congrats Poly, your team is more clutch than the Braves and Red Sox combined!

ya - you can blow 1400 IP out of the water on your last day if you want/can!

damn you Barry - i just realized you slipped in ahead of me! jerk.

wheew

and I juuuuust barely finished in the money in my money league too!

what are the keeper rules again?

i will provide a link to a page that has the rules almost right at the top...

here you go!

I get to keep Kemp again this year! Maybe I will ride his production all the way to a 4th place finish and build on this momentum.

are we keeping this going in 2012?

you know it!
i was going to start a 2012 thread in the next few days (once i thought of a good song to reference or somesuch).

all i can think of right now is "Keeper Lagoon" :s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wngb5Mq1SQY

three-peat?

I look forward to being disappointed yet again. Will probably do better than my fantasy hoops team which fucking sucks.

I will (be able to) pay more attention this year.

oh man.. do i really want that to be the thread title?!

FYI, pretty sure I'm out. ._.

aw.
makes me sad. :(

i think that makes you and Will. was it something i said?!

new thread:
The Keepers Of The Stars: welcome to 2012 fantasy baseball country