*espn plays ac/dc*
play ball!
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)
ozzie needs 2 go argue that and get thrown out in the 1st inning of game 1 cmon man
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)
Boo
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)
yow, center field at this new miami field is deeeeeep
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)
josh johnson was doing rlly well there
had no idea this game fucking counted
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)
obv i meant lohse doing rlly well
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)
why is buster posey texting orel hershiser
― mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)
Human element already affecting my fantasy numbers.
― Andy K, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, Angel Hernandez.
― Andy K, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)
<3 the neon lights & fog machine in the background of the bbtn set
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 April 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)
one of our own at work here:http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/04/mlb_season_preview_blue_oyster_cult_national_league.php?print=true
― mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2012 05:02 (thirteen years ago)
lol @ francona cowering from a foul ball
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)
O Hudson struck out swinging. 5 0J Bartlett singled to right. 5 0K Blanks hit for D Moseley. 5 0K Blanks walked, J Bartlett to second. 5 0C Maybin grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop, K Blanks out at second, J Bartlett to third. 5 0C Denorfia walked, C Maybin to second. 5 0C Headley walked, J Bartlett scored, C Maybin to third, C Denorfia to second. 5 1J Wright relieved C Capuano. 5 1J Guzman walked, C Maybin scored, C Denorfia to third, C Headley to second. 5 2N Hundley walked, C Denorfia scored, C Headley to third, J Guzman to second. 5 3S Elbert relieved J Wright. 5 3C Headley scored, J Guzman to third, N Hundley to second on wild pitch by S Elbert. 5 4Y Alonso hit by pitch. 5 4O Hudson singled to left, J Guzman scored, N Hundley to third, Y Alonso to second, N Hundley thrown out at home attempting to advance on play. 5 55 Runs, 2 Hits, 0 Errors
― Andy K, Sunday, 8 April 2012 02:33 (thirteen years ago)
METS & ORIOLES BOTH 3-0
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 8 April 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/67nUO.gif
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 April 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)
Buck Showalter is a genius.
― Andy K, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)
Darvish's debut is tonight.
― Andy K, Monday, 9 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)
Darvish Yu is a genius.
― clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)
is that gonna be a primetime game? I know Brewers/Cubs is a national game today but I would imagine Darvish's first start is broadcast worthy?
Accuscore gives the Rangers a 75% chance of winning. I wonder if they're using Darvish's Japan league numbers.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Monday, 9 April 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
Runs are way down so far:
http://www.highheatstats.com/2012/04/comparing-2012-offense-to-2011-its-crashing-and-burning-folks/
I don't know how long it takes for a league-wide trend to be statistically meaningful.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:31 (thirteen years ago)
Giants/Rockies currently workinonit.
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)
16-7, wow.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:34 (thirteen years ago)
and not a single Rockie with a hr!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:36 (thirteen years ago)
don't often see a game with two seven-run innings
― mookieproof, Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:38 (thirteen years ago)
Haha is this a thing that happens, using sponsor names to diss the visitors, or was it just random (SEA @ TEX):
Here's the Mariners defense today, brought to you by The Three Stooges -- The Movie: in the outfield...
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)
i saw this somewhere else too (don't think it was texas either)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1056628/GarzaThrow4.gif.opt_medium.gif
― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha, that should be worth more than one base
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)
If they can stay healthy (and that's the catch), I think that Cardinal middle lineup could even be better than the last couple years with Pujols.
― earlnash, Friday, 13 April 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)
that's a pretty epic if!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)
remember the heros of april
http://i.imgur.com/9aXNc.png
― wolves in our wounds (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
that's a murderers row right there
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
guy throws 21st perfect game in major league history
four hours later, the featured story on espn.com is ultimate fighting
― mookieproof, Sunday, 22 April 2012 02:46 (thirteen years ago)
4-hour news cycle
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 April 2012 07:08 (thirteen years ago)
Hanson vs. Burnett should be a good one tonight.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Friday, 27 April 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)
does every road team that goes into colo talk endlessly & repetatively abt humidors? mets do this every damn year feel like ive heard it fifty times
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)
theres chatter of a humidor in arizona?!?
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:56 (thirteen years ago)
harold reynolds is dictating texts he rec'd from his nephew, a jr in high school re: bryce harper
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 29 April 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)
Lucas Luetge vs. Cory "Anal" Luebke
― Andy K, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)
lol at orioles-sox position players covering their mouths when they talk with their catchers
― mookieproof, Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)
cj wilson vs darvish 2night mlb network 8 est
― johnny crunch, Friday, 11 May 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)
oh shit, torrealba
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)
rip cj wilsons era
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 May 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
A's fielding their "maybe no-hit us?" lineup today.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)
OK, two hits.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)
v quirky -- every team in the al east w/ a positive run differential, every other team in the league, save tejas, w/ a negative one
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)
No off days for any teams this week! It's not a big deal, but I don't think I've ever seen that before.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)
wtf, there's a weekend of interleague upcoming, and then back to intraleague next week?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
they've done that for the past several years - randomly have one interleague series in May and then the rest in June
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, it's bizarre
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 May 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
so next year they're gonna do away with interleague month, right? seeing as there'll always be an interleague series happening. god i hope!
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)
damn, I don't remember it being just 3 days for the May segment.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)
always the weekend before Memorial Day, too. saw Smoltz struggle through an agonizing game at Fenway in 2004 or 2005 and it was like the third week of May. I think that's actually the last Braves game I've seen live. McCann hadn't even been called up yet.
I think they just do this to screw with fantasy teams.
― GM, Monday, 14 May 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)
Class action suit against MLB, Comcast and DirecTV regarding blackout policy and "out of market" pricing:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/major-league-baseball-lawsuit-comcast-directv-323064
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)
it's about time
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)
SBNation covered that last week, suggested it's going absolutely nowhere.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)
That's too bad.
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
linked on the Giants thread - http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/broadcaster-rankings-radio-10-1glad to see Nadel get some love, grew up listening to Nadel and Mark Holtz on the radio and still prefer radio baseball to TV
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)
holy shit thanks for that link. this term is amazing and I will use it forever.
“Jose Mota… has an almost mystical belief in Mike Scioscia. According to Mota, Scioscialism… is the belief that a round, lazy, white man was gifted by God the abilities to save an entire baseball-watching nation by teaching players to play the game the right way, have a good clubhouse attitude, and always go for the extra base… Mota informs us that Scioscia is all-knowing and that any success at any time by any player, coach or manager who has ever come accross His path is not because of their own skills, but because they decided to buy into what Mike Scioscia preaches.”
― wolves in our wounds (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 18 May 2012 04:27 (thirteen years ago)
I didn't know the commish had "standards for situation handling."
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/5/18/3028890/bob-davidson-charlie-manuel-each-suspended-for-1-game
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:48 (thirteen years ago)
wow, weird!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)
Yan Gomes with the first Brazilian hr in mlb history!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)
jon niese is feeling charitable
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)
how much do players hate wearing throwbacks?
prince looks like the michelin man
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)
don't care i love throwbacks so much
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)
alert for Monday night watching: Yu vs King Felix
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 May 2012 07:03 (thirteen years ago)
Tim Hudson vs. David Price today should be good.
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Sunday, 20 May 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)
http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/ipt/verdict_selig_MOD_gettyY_052012.jpg
― omar little, Monday, 21 May 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)
hamels vs nats tonight
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)
can't wait to see who gets welcomed to what tonight!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)
Every team in the two Eastern divisions is at .500 or better this morning. I remember years where that'd be true of one division late into the year, but for late May and matching divisions, that's got to be some kind of esoteric record. Toronto's doing their best to make sure it doesn't last long.
― clemenza, Sunday, 27 May 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)
HR: COL - C. Gonzalez 2 (10), T. Tulowitzki (7), M. Cuddyer (5), D. Fowler (6), CIN - J. Votto (8), B. Phillips (5), J. Bruce (11), T. Frazier (5)
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 May 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)
great american ________
― mookieproof, Sunday, 27 May 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
Matt Sebek @MattSebekThe Padres, who haven't scored in 26 innings, play the Cubs today, who haven't won a game since beating the #stlcards on May 14th.
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 May 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)
aaaand the padres are on the board
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 May 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
In both the AL and NL East, all five teams are over .500 and three games separate first place from last.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 1 June 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)
in 2005 the nats finished in last place at 81-81 iirc, it could happen!
― ciderpress, Friday, 1 June 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)
Last night's Brewers/Dodgers game had one of the most bizarre half-innings I've ever seen. Hairston grounded out, then Castellanos comes up for his first plate appearance and promptly gets drilled (welcome to the bigs?) He steals second, but the next batter (Van Slyke?) interferes with the throw just barely - totally incidental, but the throw hits Castellanos (again), Van Slyke is out and Castellanos has to return to 1st (never heard of this rule before). Next play they get a grounder and attempt to turn two but the runner at 1st is called safe - both Rickie Weeks and the 1st base ump didn't know there were two outs already.
― frogbs, Friday, 1 June 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)
sreaming of October coin flips:
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/6/1/3055937/nl-east-al-east-standings-wild-card-tie-breakers
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
dreaming, that'd be
They've outsourced all coin flipping this year.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/21/article-1322503-0BB49BCC000005DC-836_468x286.jpg
― clemenza, Friday, 1 June 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)
cc:
in case anyone's interested -- here is a pdf of a 1975 new yorker article by roger angell about steve blass and his disease. even apart from the main topic, it's interesting to read contemporary reports about all the complete games and how strikeouts aren't super important.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)
The AL & NL East teams all being above .500 kind of reminds me a bit of this year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_in_baseball
The AL East was loaded with four powerhouse clubs and the Twins win it all winning 85 games.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 03:23 (thirteen years ago)
heard it here first folks, twins are your 2012 world champions
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 05:07 (thirteen years ago)
That would be a story.
― earlnash, Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)
http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/montaouswalton.html?viewall=1
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)
Jayson Stark on Carlos Zambrano:
"He has now hit at least one home run in 10 seasons in a row. That's something only four other pitchers in history have done. The others, courtesy of Lee Sinins' Complete Baseball Encyclopedia, are Warren Spahn (17), Red Ruffing (15), Bob Lemon (12) and Dizzy Trout (11)."
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)
For polyphonic:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0608/mlb_e_votto_hamilton_hm_b1_576.jpg
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
it burns
― mookieproof, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)
I have to admit, I don't really know what's going on there (red = hit?). I just like all the pretty colours.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)
pitchers duel in colorado E Santana 2.0IP 6H 6R 6ER 1BB 1K 2HRC Friedrich 2.0IP 7H 6R 6ER 2BB 2K 2HR
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)
I guess the heat maps are just a glorified version of this:
http://s1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/?action=view¤t=zone.jpg
(Santans and Friedrich must be painting those red circles in the middle.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eksrw4QSSs
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 05:43 (thirteen years ago)
Three true outcomes HOF: Adam Dunn is one HR short of leading the league in HR, BB, and K's.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)
I'm really fascinated with Adam Dunn as a whole, he might have the single greatest season swing ever in WAR for a player w/ 600+ plate appearances each year (-2.9 last year, on pace for about 4.6 this year)
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)
Especially weird considering that we're talking about his age 32 and age 33 seasons
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
i dont think he had 600 plate appearances last yr?
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)
looking @ his #s - he already has more total bases this yr than last
i dont usu give a lot of weight 2 'he must'ev been more hurt than we knew or even he knew, etc' but i feel like thats gotta play in here
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)
wait a sec; I was one column up too far - you're correct he had only 496. still, it only highlights how terrible he was last year; his slugging percentage is nearly 300 points higher than it was last year
Dunn's dropoff from 2010 to 2011 was certainly historic in itself but this bounceback is just crazy. It's as if he was replaced with a pod person.
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)
well this season is closer to traditional Adam Dunn than last year tho... so if he's a pod person he was replaced last year and it took the pod-dude a season to figure out how to use a bat!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)
exactly - I think the 'real' Dunn obviously broke free and destroyed his twin.
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
last year's problems seemed most mental, guess he figured things out
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)
how so?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)
(like how did they seem mental)
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)
When a player does to shit overnight like he did, it has to be more than an erosion of skills, especially when it's a player as consistent as Dunn was.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)
The only other recent comparable player would be Andruw Jones, and it's still not clear exactly what happened there, I think? (other than putting on a lot of weight)
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)
yeah he got fat
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)
no, but a player can "lose his swing" or develop a mechanical problem. was wondering if there was a specific incident or somesuch that directly alluded to a mental issue.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)
xposts
yeah Andruw definitely had a similar year but Dunn was bad over nearly twice as many PA's and his current bounceback is already better (in terms of WAR) than any post-2008 year Jones ever had
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)
no i don't really know what i'm talking about but mainly just that it was so consistent over the year - seems like it was physical he eventually would have gotten better or worse or they would have rested him instead of just trying to force him to break through it.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)
Jones fell off a cliff when he signed with the Dodgers and has been able to bounce back decently as a part time player, but I wouldnt really call that a comeback at all.
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)
whatever it is, something similar is happening to Rickie Weeks this season...hitting only .167 over 254 PAs, despite posting the highest walk rate of his career!
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:14 (thirteen years ago)
Jones went from a HOF career path and being one of the best fielders ever to posting a 35 OPS+ and a liability in the field. Guys put on weight during the offseason all the time but this had to be more than that.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)
dear lord adam dunn was bad last year
(tho fangraphs does put too much emphasis on defense. bb-ref has a MUCH more reasonable -2.7 last year)
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)
well he did DH most of the year...
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)
oh nvm i was looking at oWAR for some reason. they actually have him at -3.1. and 13.9 over his entire career. wtf bb-ref.
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)
Hard to conceive of someone (like 2009 Dunn) putting up a .920 OPS and almost erasing it with defense
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)
or in bbref's view, actually becoming a drag on the team
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)
tbh the weights they put on defense are just silly
and it also bothers me how much value is taken away for DHing. i understand the logic, but it's also silly.
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Friday, 15 June 2012 05:26 (thirteen years ago)
Dunn is a much better version of Kingman, right? HR rate very close (Kingman hitting in a worse offensive context), Dunn strikes out more, Dunn has a moderate advantage in BA/SA and, the clincher, a huge advantage in OBP.
― clemenza, Friday, 15 June 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)
CARDINALS CENTERFIELDER CARLOS BELTRAN'S STOLEN BASE IN THE SECOND INNING WAS THE 300TH OF HIS CAREER, MAKING HIM THE EIGHTH PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO HAVE 300 STOLEN BASES AND 300 HOME RUNS.
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 June 2012 01:56 (thirteen years ago)
The NL East had a real shitty weekend.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)
hey look remember this dude
Mark Prior (P) BOS – AAA 6/18/2012Prior worked a perfect ninth inning to earn his first save of the season Saturday for Triple-A Pawtucket, WEEI.com reports. In 6.2 innings with the PawSox, Prior has recorded 15 strikeouts. According to Clayton Mortensen, now with Boston but who roomed with Prior when both were at Pawtucket, Prior is close to being big league ready. “He’s throwing the ball hard, locating his pitches and looks good,” said Mortensen, noting that Prior’s fastball has been 90-94 mph. “His fastball is pretty electric. He hides the ball well. A lot of guys get a lot of downward plane, but he throws that sneaky one that guys always swing underneath all the time, and he’s locating it to both sides of the plate. It’s worked well with his curveball. He’s getting both fastball and curveball strikeouts, which is huge.”
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)
encarnacion homered & hit the slide in milwaukee
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)
and then tonight Rasmus & Bautista go back-to-back twice
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 05:43 (thirteen years ago)
lotta homers in new york, milwaukee and arizona today
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)
where can i find heat maps for a given player
ie, does trout have any holes at all
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:34 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know what I find the most remarkable about Cook's outing Friday night. It's rare that you see a guy manage a complete game on just 81 pitches. Of those 81 pitches, Cook threw 73 sinkers and eight curveballs. To put it another way, Cook threw 90 percent sinkers, and ten percent curveballs. The Mariners swung 39 times, and all 39 swings made contact. Cook didn't generate one single swinging strike. Complete-game shutout. 81 pitches.
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)
wow!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
No big deal, but why didn't the Mets give Dickey a chance to finish the shutout last night? He had a huge lead, and I assume he's not on any kind of a pitch count.
― clemenza, Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)
Billy Hamilton is now on the verge of stealing his 100th base of the season.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 30 June 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)
joe buck tryna convince matt kemp 2 be a fox correspondant in the allstar game "how bout a tim mccarver autographed cd of him singing all the standards"
matt kemp "im sorry but i dont even know who that is"
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 1 July 2012 01:30 (thirteen years ago)
This may be behind a firewall, but here's a speculative look at Mike Trout's chances of hitting .400 based on some precedents:
http://www.billjamesonline.com/can_mike_trout_hit_400/
― clemenza, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
who had ra dickey & matt harrison as pitchers of the month for june before the season started?
― johnny crunch, Monday, 2 July 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
for those of you ignoring my pirates thread:
8 GAMES OVER .500 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 04:18 (thirteen years ago)
that has to be about it for jamie moyer
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 July 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)
could be a long night at fenway
― mookieproof, Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)
cutch > timmy
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 July 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)
RIP Lincecum it was fun while it lasted.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 8 July 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)
Love this--some guy looking up league leaders to find one thing, finds this along the way: "Minnie led the AL in triples in '54, Mickey in '55."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)
What a goofy stat!
I'll show myself out.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)
liriano w/ 8ks thru 3IP
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 July 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)
ball is jumping in the bronxxx
― mookieproof, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)
lol cain and hamels have both homered
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 July 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)
11 AL teams currently at or over .500.
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 July 2012 04:30 (thirteen years ago)
I noticed the same thing looking at the standings this morning. "How can that be? Oh yeah, interleague..." So I quickly did the math and came out at +32 for the AL.
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 July 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)
interesting battle for the basement of the AL east today with the J's at .500 and the BoSox one game over!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 22 July 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)
The Jays are stepping up and showing them who the real fourth-place team is. (Frustration speaking.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 July 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)
ha ha!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 22 July 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)
being behind the Orioles in the standing can cause alot of stress.
quite a duel between samardzija and bedard tonight
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)
The Marlins have seven walks, seven steals, and one run (through five)?
― Andy K, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, assuming this score holds up, it'll be one of those weird Kurk-gems for Hanson. Last pitcher to win with 7+ walks, 7+ Ks and 7+ SBs was Bob Feller in 1936, who had 9/17/7.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
― Andy K, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i think they're hitting like .145 as a team w/ RISP this month
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
Team FB pages hacked, couple good ones
http://deadspin.com/5931360
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)
Nationals is the winner.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)
this angels/texas games are turning into 5 hour long home run fests like red sox/Yankees
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)
mets/pads, feelin the throwbacks
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)
Do you think the Phils might just let Cliff Lee walk if a club takes on the rest of the contract?
― earlnash, Saturday, 4 August 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)
Justin and BJ Upton each hit their 100th career HR yesterday. Needless to say it's the first time that brothers have hit their 100th HR on the same day.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 4 August 2012 06:04 (thirteen years ago)
have you checked
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Saturday, 4 August 2012 06:42 (thirteen years ago)
Not nearly as serendipitous, but on a whim I checked the Forsches, and they both won their 100th games during the '82 season: Bob on June 4, Ken on August 26. And in 1979, the one year that both Niekros won 20, they almost got #20 on the same day: Joe's was on Sept. 22, Phil;s on Sept. 26--when he beat Joe, who got knocked out in the third inning. There should have been some kind of investigation there.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)
The paper this morning said five other pairs of brothers hit 100 each. I made two correct guesses--Alomars, DiMaggios--and one incorrect, the Giambis. There are two others.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)
the boones and who else
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Saturday, 4 August 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)
delmon young is only 17 homers away from joining them
Yes, the Boones. Found an article with all six: also the Boyers (that one I should have figured out) and Bob/Irish Meusel (never would have gotten that one).
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)
the molinas?
― you're all going to hello (Z S), Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)
oh, looks like yadi's got 29 more to go. i sometimes forget that up until last season he was a single-digits HR hitter
― you're all going to hello (Z S), Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)
My favourite Molina:
http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/69/82/11698266_gal.jpg
A lot of pop, always picks excellent AB music, bad drug habit unfortunately.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)
I am heading to turner field, hope it stays dry enough for BP.
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)
most pitches ever thrown by a team in a 9 inn'g game is apparenty 263 (4/19/93 a's vs det)
pads were gunning 4 it 2night - 212 pitches
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 5 August 2012 03:36 (thirteen years ago)
i'm only really following the roy oswalt thing because i stupidly put him on my fantasy team a few weeks ago, but has he always been such a whiny asshole?
he holds out on a contract all off-season, and then for the first half of the season, just so he can be even richer, gets signed by the rangers, he does terrible in his 4 minor league warm-up games, he sucks ass in a handful of outings as a starter so they have to put him in the bullpen.
then last night, he's pitches in relief for 2 innings and then refuses to pitch another, even when asked by his manager. whiny voice/ because he wants to be a starter boo boo bear /whinyvoice/
― you're all going to hello (Z S), Monday, 6 August 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)
nolan ryan should have a) kicked his ass, and b) dfa'd him
instead, he said a bunch of nothing
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)
total dick move. Glad we didn't get him.
― bnw, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
what's the tie breaker for two teams for the last wildcard spot?is there a one game playoff for the chance for a one game playoff?
― you're all going to hello (Z S), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)
Yesterday I learned that Roy Oswalt is the same age as me and it BLEW MY MIND
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_tie-breaking_procedures
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)
hmmm, yep, a one game playoff for the right to play in a one game playoff.
the procedure for a 3-way tie seems kind of unfair:
Three-way tie for the division or wildcardIf the three teams have identical records against each other in the regular season, the office of the commissioner conducts a draw with the teams designated as teams A, B, and C. First, team A plays team B with team A as the home team. The following day, the winner of the that game plays team C with team C as the away team. The winner of the game on the second day advances to the playoffs. The team designations are determined as follows:
If the three teams have identical records against each other in the regular season, the office of the commissioner conducts a draw with the teams designated as teams A, B, and C. First, team A plays team B with team A as the home team. The following day, the winner of the that game plays team C with team C as the away team. The winner of the game on the second day advances to the playoffs. The team designations are determined as follows:
so team A or B has to win two games in a row in order to advance, while team C only has to win one (albeit as the away team).
― you're all going to hello (Z S), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)
really hope at least one league (looks like the AL) has a 5-way tie just to bite Beelzebud in the ass for doing this with only one open date after the season ends.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)
at that point i think they just do an all out killfest w/chainsaws
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)
what's with mlb.tv blacking out tonight's primetime games? some late-season ESPN thing?
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)
yeah seriously what is that
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)
pirates just committed three errors in the seventh
got out of it relatively unscathed when chris young took three borderline pitches for strikes, then had to be wrestled (by kirk gibson) away from the umpire
apparently justin upton has been tossed as well, not sure how that happened
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2012 01:44 (thirteen years ago)
Good piece on Hamilton's pending free agency.
― clemenza, Thursday, 9 August 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)
Randy Wolf threw the slowest pitch of the season last night, a 49 mph curve that gameday registered as an "eephus"
Wolf sure has sucked this year but I can't say I won't miss him :(
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 August 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)
Gary Carter invented the f-bomb??
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/8/14/3241496/the-dictionary-game
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
Grantland was skeptical about this NFL study that claimed that ex-players lived longer than the general population, so they decided to compare mortality rates of baseball players and football players.
They studied thousands of players from each sport (from the 60's through the 80's) and found that mortality rates of baseball players is *significantly* higher. This seems to go against popular reasoning (i.e. football players are jacked up freaks who have elephant hearts or brain tumours and die when they're 50).
I'm not sure what to make of this.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8274392/comparing-mortality-rates-football-baseball
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)
someone's picking off uniformed ballplayers
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)
Ugandan little leaguers are playing at 5pm EST on ESPN2 vs. Panama
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)
panamanian pitcher pounding the outside corner
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)
ugandans are a crafty ppl
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)
lol at the ump warning the ugandans not to steal signals
5-1. still time.
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)
http://thestar.smgmedia.topscms.com/images/49/df/3244066540b69101bc2462f320bd.jpeg
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
teach the bunt imo
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, i was screaming for the bunt in the 1st inning. it's like watching the f++king Indians
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)
panama might be purposely hitting @ this shortstop
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)
ugandan catcher has game
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)
quick reflexes there
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)
want francona 2 call him the ugandan pedroia
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)
That field is nicer than most of the ones on which I played. No chalk or lime though, obv -- how can they judge OF fair/foul?
― Andy K, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)
lol. gotta call that! nice play tho
weird how many pitching changes so far. i guess there's a count limit
also, there's replay!
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)
man, generous strike zone. greg maddux must be salivating
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)
whoa, "The Hammer" has a nice fastball
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)
welp, things are getting out of hand
watching Uganda try to field smoked hits ~takes me back~
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)
do 12 year old kids have any idea who nomar garciaparra is?
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 August 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)
wow at that ugandan homerun to centerfield
9-3 loss ;_:
― hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 17 August 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
pirates-cardinals in the 15th
pretty big game tbh
can't even imagine a scenario in which the pirates win -- probably score one in the top of inning x and give up two in the bottom
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
good bunt
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)
Remember at Busch II when it would be 115 on the field during a day game? There'd be dead people everywhere today. /hyperbole
― Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)
(new reliever) Joe Kelly is on his 6th inning of work!
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)
"new reliever" as in he was a starting pitcher until jaime garcia came back.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)
pitcher james mcdonald with a pinch hit single!
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)
if not for yadi, i'd send him
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:05 (thirteen years ago)
also fu mlb.tv for being at least two minutes behind
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)
86 pitches for joe kelly
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)
on to the 18th!
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)
it's a sign of pirate progress that they only gave up one there
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)
so reminiscent of the bucs-braves-jerry meals game last year
jim joyce is at first, but i look for him to play a key role.
not really -- i look for matt holliday to jack an off-speed pitch
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)
thank u fox sports midwest for reminding me
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)
PEDRO
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 August 2012 00:15 (thirteen years ago)
wandy getting an extra inning win is so epic
― a hoy hoy heat (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)
i love the shit like mcdonald getting a pinch hit, wainwright drawing a walk, harrison (an infielder) making a catch bouncing off the wall, etc
i wonder who the first position players would have been to pitch
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 August 2012 01:00 (thirteen years ago)
Meanwhile, back in Williamsport, a coach just told his defense to make plays, and then instructed his pitcher to throw strikes.
― Andy K, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)
HEY IT'S INSTANT REPLAY
― Andy K, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)
Braves sign Lyle Overbay to a minor league contract. Time for Eric Hinske to pack his bags.
― Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:51 (thirteen years ago)
Red Sox Place Adrian Gonzalez On Trade Waivers
hee hee
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)
chris sale - 13ks in 7.2 - k'd everyone @ least once xcept jeter
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 August 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)
this 8 run (so far) inn'g for the angels vs bos has been impressive/pitiful
― johnny crunch, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)
RANGERS THIRD BASEMAN ADRIAN BELTRE HIT FOR THE CYCLE.
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)
ugh cycles are such bs
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
how abt 10 for his last 14abs w/ 5 hrs
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:48 (thirteen years ago)
BOOOOOOOO
― Andy K, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)
Would like to see a list of batters who failed to hit for cycle but had four-plus XBHs including at least one 2B, 3B, and HR.
― Andy K, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)
guy hits two homers, two doubles no one cares
10 for his last 14abs w/ 5 hrs
that's pretty fucking solid tho
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 August 2012 03:04 (thirteen years ago)
so, trout has 8.9 rWAR over 103 games. crazy. over 162 games that would be 14 rWAR. jeezus.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)
the mind wobbles
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)
10 highest single season rWAR since 1900:
Walter Johnson 1913 15.7Walter Johnson 1912 14.0Babe Ruth 1923 13.7Dwight Gooden 1985 13.0Walter Johnson 1914 12.6Pete Alexander 1920 12.5Cy Young 1901 12.4Babe Ruth 1921 12.3Steve Carlton 1927 12.1Babe Ruth 1927 12.1
i mean, how do you even process this information
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)
he is a leading ROY candidate
WALTER TRAIN JOHNSON >
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)
dying at the idea of 15.7 war tbh
Ok, so how did The Trade go down? Were there no teams who tried to block it, or were they too scared of Aidsy's contract?
― Pilot Inspektor Leee (Leee), Sunday, 26 August 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)
dodgers claimed beckett and a-gonz fair and square from the waiver wire.. Im sure punto and crawford cleared waivers outright and were able to be traded to anyone. two of the pieces going to boston (sands and de la rosa) were claimed on waivers and pulled back and were stashed in the minors to become PTBNLs after the season is over.
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)
cycle is just a cool thing, and 12 total bases is noteworthy either way
― frogbs, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)
I guess my question is, how or why did the principals clear waivers? Their monster contracts is my best guess?
― Pilot Inspektor Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:04 (thirteen years ago)
ade beltre heat check: 2/2, 2b + hr off david price, dude is locked in
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)
great moments in sports television:
watching the cards/bucs game, and between pitches they do a crowd shot. a guy starts to yawn and his mouth gets huge, so they cut to another couple of people. he starts yawning big time, so they cut to a third group of people. an old man yawns, and as his yawn reaches its yawning heights, an old woman two seats away starts to yawn too. in the seat behind the old man, who is nearing the end of his yawn, another person begins to yawn. the old woman is now reaching the climax of her yawn and-
back to the game
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)
~pittsburgh~
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)
ho hum king felix cgsho
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)
Braun hit one out of the park at Wrigley as part of a 9-run 9th inning (they eventually had to send out Joe Mather to pitch, who currently has a 0.00 ERA)
sucks the Brewers are out of contention because they're doing some interesting things right now. they've become the first team since 1900 to record 10+ strikeouts in 7 games straight. actually have the highest K/9 rate in the bigs right now even though their rotation is Gallardo + minor leaguers
― frogbs, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:05 (thirteen years ago)
to be fair, three of those games were against the pirates
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 05:28 (thirteen years ago)
guess what players are most likely to be ID'd by broadcasters as "scrappy hustlers"?
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/8/27/3271969/atlantic-study-race-ethnicity-baseball
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)
Quickly read through The Atlantic piece and don't recall any mention of announcer ethnicity. Seems like something a study would want to take into consideration.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
Dave Sims, Rod Allen, Mario Impemba, Buck Martinez, Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Victor Rojas, etc...
― Andy K, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)
and to bring it all full circle to an lb poster, this is how the work was funded: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2002891608/scorekeeping-tracking-subconscious-racism-in-baseb
had i known i would have chipped in
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)
btw tho Keith Hernandez was nicknamed "Mex," his father was Spanish. Ballplayers.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)
Americans
― Andy K, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)
Er, white Americans
― Andy K, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
White people
Quickly read through The Atlantic piece and don't recall any mention of announcer ethnicity.
They did mention it. It wasn't clear how they factor it into their data though.
It'd be interesting to see their raw data to get an idea of the sample sizes.
Some of their conclusions are really questionable though. They say "aggressive" or "impatient" hitters are likely to be non-white, but impatience and free-swinging can be measured statistically (as opposed to "scrappiness").
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)
tough road rest of the way for A's; Tigers (seemingly) have it cushy:
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/9/5/3292591/american-league-playoffs-contenders-schedules
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)
except they've already lost two games to the indians and were swept by the royals last month
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)
yes, Brisbee obliquely refers to that
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)
The Tigers could get a healthy and productive Victor Martinez right now and I wouldn't feel more positive.
They could be due to play the best teams and I wouldn't feel more negative.
Weird team.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, more than any other team I can think of, the Tigers are like a perfect blend of "unstoppable" and "suck"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)
Old baseball continuing in DC.
― Andy K, Friday, 7 September 2012 01:03 (thirteen years ago)
"I am wearing all this catching gear. If I'm ever going to start some shit with Mike Morse, it might as well be now."
― Andy K, Friday, 7 September 2012 01:08 (thirteen years ago)
combined 29 ks tx/tampa game (11 inn'gs)
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)
Round-up of the next wave of candidates for 400 HR--based only on totals through 2011, so there are a couple of obviously silly projections (i.e., Beltran at 0% for 400).
http://www.highheatstats.com/2012/09/who-will-be-the-next-400-hr-hitter/#more-6003
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 September 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)
whoa close call in ny/bal lol @ tex
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 9 September 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)
JERRY MEALS
JERRY MEALS SEZ ITS OUT BALTIMORE WINS THE PENNANT
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 9 September 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)
@MLBFanCaveWe will never forget.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)
brings a tear to my eye
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)
Baseball Reference has been keeping track of total errors since the beginning of time at the top of their page this season; 499,939 through play yesterday, with the 500,000th expected Sunday or Monday. I think Bill Buckner, Steve Sax, and Lonnie Smith should be brought out of retirement in honor of this milestone.
― clemenza, Thursday, 13 September 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)
Rays/O's locked in the top of the 13th, 2-2
Really feeling this game is going to be a turning point for someone
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)
man i hope it's jeter xp
― omar little, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)
uh-oh. O's had bases loaded, no outs, and even had a 3-0 count (w/ 1 out) and couldn't score
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)
never mind. 13 straight extra inning victories. what a season
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Yadi.gif
posting this here too, since hey it's yaaaaaadi
i imagine there's a way to use baseball reference to get this (and if someone wants to be kind and explain how they'd do it i'd owe them 400 megabucks), but is there a way to get a stat on how often baserunners attempt steals on certain catchers? for example, is there a way to see what percentage of time a steal is attempted against a particular catcher in situations where there's just a runner on first base, with 1 out, or something?
i imagine the rate would be pretty low against yadi.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)
Kris Medlen has 9 Ks through 4 innings, 6 looking. I wasn't even going to watch the Braves game tonight because they're giving me an ulcer, but I'll watch Medlen pitch whenever. His command of every pitch, all year long, has been amazing.
― Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)
If you live in a baseball market where your team is already out of it, it’s likely that for a while there has been talk about next year, about “rebuilding.” I played for my share of those teams, and I know that this is the time of year when you can get a sense of what that rebuilt team might look like once they stop rebuilding. Because, as team rosters expand from 25 to 40 in September, this is when many young players get a true shot. They are penned into the lineup and allowed to play, to make mistakes, to compete against the best, every single night. The team is playing for the future, but the future gets to play, now.
DOUG GLANVILLE STOP IT, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 15 September 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)
it's like i've gone to hell and al hrabosky is somehow afforded an opportunity to write for the NYT
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 15 September 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)
Maybe he thinks the world is finally ready for another Plaschke?
― Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Saturday, 15 September 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)
hey it's yaaaaaadi
fucking cannon even in slo mo
― mookieproof, Saturday, 15 September 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)
seriously, he can throw it to 2B in slo-mo faster than me in real life.
and i'm a 6-time all-star MLB slugging catcher, so that means a lot
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 15 September 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)
rizzo w/ hrs in back-to-back innings
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 16 September 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees--shameful-that-sub--500-phillies-still-contenders-in-wild-card-race.html
I'd like to go FJM style on this but I think it just speaks for itself, shut up Jeff
― frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)
"Such anomalies happen."
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)
i sort of agree that sub-.500 teams shouldn't be in the WC race but that mostly has to do with the NL sucking in interleague doesn't it
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
I get that "the playoffs are a crapshoot and you don't even need to be that good", but really that's the way it's been for a while, the best team rarely wins; the old World Series method (best team from AL and NL make it, no playoff) was more likely to reward the best team, but then the Yankees will win it 3-4 times a decade. Like for MLB as a whole this second wild card is a slam dunk b/c suddenly fanbases like Pittsburgh, Philly, St. Louis, Milwaukee, and hell even San Diego can suddenly be playing meaningful games in September.
― frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)
I really don't care about this at all. Some years you will have a shitty division winner and a third deserving wild card team will miss the playoffs. This year you have three clear division leaders and one clear first wild card. It's going to be different every year. You look at the AL, and it seems to me that the A's, Rangers, Yankees, and Orioles all completely deserve to make the playoffs. If it's not the case for the NL, oh well. The worst case scenario is the Braves losing the one-game playoff and you have a weaker NL wild card team advancing to the divisional round. Not a huge deal to me.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)
Also his point about the unacceptability of a second wildcard team projecting to finish with 85 wins is pretty stupid because this season is kind of an outlier in that regard.
If the two wildcard system would have been in place before, here's who would won the second wildcard in the last few seasons:
2011 NL: Braves, 89 wins2011 AL: Red Sox, 90 wins
2010 NL: Padres, 90 wins2010 AL: Red Sox, 89 wins
2009 NL: Giants, 88 wins2009 AL: Rangers, 87 wins
2008 NL: Mets, 89 wins2008 AL: Yankees, 89 wins
2007 NL: Padres, 89 wins2007 AL: Mariners, 88 wins
2007 NL: Phillies, 85 wins2007 AL: White Sox, 90 wins
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry, those last two rows are 2006
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)
ultimately baseball is a slow moving sport with 162 damn games every year so anything that adds excitement is welcome, IMO of course
I just hate the attitude of "how disgraceful that a team that sucked for four months and traded some players has an outside shot at the playoffs!!" That's not a disgrace, it's a good story!
― frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
And a lot of those hypothetical second wild card teams had records that were better than one or more of the division winners for that season. So you could make a flip-side argument that adding a second card will, in many seasons at least, add another playoff team that actually really deserves to go but is unfortunate to play in a stronger division.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)
and he's ignoring the fact that the second NL WC teams over the past decade would've mostly had 88-92 wins. at least i think he did, i just skimmed. lol xp.
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
and at the same time it provides a major incentive to winning your division; getting to the one-game WC playoff I guess technically counts as a "playoff berth" but it certainly doesn't feel the same as say, getting a WC in football
― frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)
yeah being a WC team sort of sucks now
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
It will be crazy the first time there's a tie for the second WC berth.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)
i hate 1 game playoffs, jeff should've been whining about that
or rather, "these teams all suck so much, it's going to be great to see all their hope instantly destroyed in a single game"
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)
I think Passan is paid by the pageview
― sanskrit, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)
Man, C.B. Bucknor is an amazingly bad umpire. He blew calls on two plays in a row a few minutes ago -- the home plate umpire corrected him on the first one, but the 2nd one was let go.
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)
nfl serving as a good reminder that maybe the replacements for all the shitty umps wouldn't be any better
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)
I thought we had a postseason thread already, but I can't find it. Anyway, regarding the wild card game, this shit's gonna be weirder than weird.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/the-wild-card-game-is-going-to-be-like-baseball-on-mars/
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/play-in-game-strategy-skip-the-starter/
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)
i read skip the starter and the ensuing comments yesterday, good piece. of course it would only work for the Braves. would like to see the Brewers try that.
it's also one of those
win = amazing closers gut it outlose = manager's fault, pariah in the press, lose job next year
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)
would like to see the Brewers try that.
good plan if you want to see them lose by double digits!!
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
hey can anyone who knows things about baseball tell me what the hell is up with defensive indifference? I know that run technically doesn't matter but why not try to throw him out anyway? What do you have to lose??
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)
Good:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/baseball/mlb/09/19/melky-cabrera-bud-selig-batting-title.ap/index.html?sct=mlb_t2_a5
"You can't change records because once you get into that it would never stop. It would create more problems than it would solve." That's pretty much all that needs to be said, I think. The NCAA rescinding all those Penn State wins made no sense to me.
― clemenza, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:22 (thirteen years ago)
I know that run technically doesn't matter but why not try to throw him out anyway?
Why add to the pitcher's stress level and the catcher's wear and tear? You answered your own question - the run doesn't matter.
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)
yes, but outs in the 9th inning definitely do
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)
I keep forgetting the season doesn't end next Sunday.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
I thought your season ended last Thursday.
― sanskrit, Monday, 24 September 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)
que?
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 September 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)
J Carroll grounded into fielder's choice double play, third to catcher to right to pitcher to third, P Florimon scored, M Carson out at home, B Revere out at home, J Carroll to first.
― Andy K, Monday, 24 September 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)
Dee Gordon air mail .gif
― Andy K, Monday, 24 September 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)
BREAKING:
Keith Hernandez to Shave Legendary Mustache
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)
only $5K? pretty sure he could raise $15K on Kickstarter to grow an old tyme Deadball Era handlebar rapist mustache.
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)
Just had a routine 9-7-5 here in Detroit.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)
Encarnacion, Granderson, and Dunn have all homered tonight.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)
Ham just hit #43
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
aand 41 for dunn
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
To point out the obvious, that's why what Cabrera's trying to do is so tough. He opens up a bit of daylight in two categories, but in the other he's in the midst of a five-way race.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)
tiebreaker fun!
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/8/9/3231318/mlb-wild-card-ties-postseason-schedule
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
hawk is so ridiculous
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)
HR: D Solano 2 (2, Top 2 off K Medlen, 1-0, 1 Out, None on; Top 7 off K Medlen, 0-2, 2 Outs, 1 on)
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:12 (thirteen years ago)
Dylan Bundy pitching for Baltimore
― Andy K, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)
they used him @ some pt last wk also i think
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)
Greinke pitching for the the Angels Angels of Anaheim (13 Ks through the FIFTH).
― Andy K, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:50 (thirteen years ago)
Hardenesque pitch count, too.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)
S Perez struck out looking.M Moustakas struck out swinging.J Francoeur struck out swinging.B Pena struck out looking.J Giavotella struck out looking.D Lough struck out looking.A Escobar struck out swinging.A Gordon struck out looking.B Butler struck out looking.
TIGERS PITCHER DOUG FISTER SET AN AL RECORD BY STRIKING OUT NINE CONSECUTIVE BATTERS.
― Andy K, Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)
was that a Clemens or Ryan record?
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)
wow, the legendary doug fister!
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
ROYALS GOT FISTED!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 September 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)
bye manny acta
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/Rff2E.png
― max, Thursday, 27 September 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)
looooool
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)
Almost as entertaining: Prince Fielder hit a chopper just over the head of leaping 5'7" Tim Collins. It took just long enough to trickle into the outfield that Prince was able to streth it into a double -- slid head first, as he always does, and ended up almost on his back, as he always does.
― Andy K, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)
where did that headline appear, it's amazing
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)
why would you fire a guy with six games left jeez
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)
frogs, i think that's hardball talk
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)
was pointed out today the cards and nats could both "clinch" Sunday while playing each other. kinda weird.
― bnw, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:17 (thirteen years ago)
at the conclusion of that game the cards and the nats should just start busting out all sorts of sex moves on the field
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)
as a result of the same game?
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)
Yes. Nats could clinch division, Cards could clinch WC#2.
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)
Actually not as a result of that game alone -- would be combination of that game and Mets @ Braves results.
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)
I would think that, say, the Cards losing could knock the Nats out of the WC hunt, because they would have clinched their division, and then as a result the Cards would be assured of the WC. That doesn't apply here but it would be a pretty bizarre scenario.
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)
never mind, that's impossible
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)
It's the big AL scramble weekend
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/9/28/3423056/american-league-2012-playoffs-races-standings
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)
@TBTimes_Rays#Tigers Leyland: "You can tell Fernando Rodney that if he shoots that (arrow) 3 times in the next 3 days, I’ll be his cupid forever." #Rays
― Andy K, Friday, 28 September 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)
"(arrow)"
A's with another walk-off. Rays eliminated.
― Andy K, Saturday, 29 September 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)
their elim# is still 2, 1 for division
― zachylon (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 September 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)
Ah -- my bad.
― Andy K, Sunday, 30 September 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)
francouer is making a good late season run to overtake michael young to not claim worst war 2012
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 30 September 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)
@jay_jaffe15 teams alive with 4 games to go #teamentropy RT @bobtimmermann: Cardinals loss means no teams will be mathematically eliminated tonight
― Andy K, Sunday, 30 September 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)
o's/yanks tied w/ 4 to play
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 30 September 2012 03:34 (thirteen years ago)
Baltimore 91 67 +8NY Yankees 91 67 +112Tampa Bay 87 71 +112
― Andy K, Sunday, 30 September 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)
it appears as though jered weaver will set the record for fewest innings pitched by a twenty-game winner. i thought that weaver had pitched remarkably few innings for a guy with that (yes, meaningless) stat, and it's true. the record holder looks to be bob grim, who won 20 games as a rookie with the yankees in 1954 and pitched 199.0 innings. weaver has one start left and has pitched 187.2 innings.
― omar little, Sunday, 30 September 2012 07:01 (thirteen years ago)
He should sit the last one out to make the record even more difficult to break
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Sunday, 30 September 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)
Medlen/Braves going for that "consecutive wins in one pitcher's starts" record today. Strikes me as one of those Kurkjianesque "well I'll be darned" stats, but still fun to follow along with as it plays out.
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Sunday, 30 September 2012 14:44 (thirteen years ago)
so who's all but dead? Dodgers still breathing vs all odds.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)
with the angels' loss, the rangers yankees and o's all clinched
― zachylon (zachlyon), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
The remaining AL scenarios:
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/10/1/3437334/american-league-playoffs-wild-card-yankees-orioles-rangers-athletics-rays-tigers-angels
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
hopefully this will work (copy and pasting from my spreadsheet), i'll explain in a second
PLAYER TEAM GP ATPS/GP SB ATPS CSB CS CS% Yadier Molina STL 134 0.537313433 72 38 34 0.472 Miguel Montero ARI 136 0.544117647 74 43 31 0.419 Jose Molina TB 100 0.58 58 39 19 0.328 Ryan Hanigan CIN 108 0.592592593 64 33 31 0.484 Matt Wieters BAL 131 0.633587786 83 51 32 0.386 John Buck MIA 104 0.634615385 66 48 18 0.273 Russell Martin NYY 125 0.64 80 61 19 0.238 Josh Thole NYM 99 0.727272727 72 55 17 0.236 Kurt Suzuki OAK/WSH 116 0.801724138 93 65 28 0.301 A.J. Pierzynski CHW 125 0.824 103 76 27 0.262 A.J. Ellis LAD 129 0.829457364 107 73 34 0.318 Wilin Rosario COL 102 0.892156863 91 61 30 0.33 Brian McCann ATL 112 0.892857143 100 76 24 0.24 Geovany Soto TEX/CHC 94 0.904255319 85 65 20 0.235 Carlos Ruiz PHI 104 0.932692308 97 64 33 0.34 J. Saltalamac. BOS 101 0.940594059 95 78 17 0.179 Carlos Santana CLE 99 0.949494949 94 69 25 0.266 Rod Barajas PIT 98 0.979591837 96 90 6 0.063 Alex Avila DET 111 1.009009009 112 78 34 0.304 Buster Posey SF 112 1.116071429 125 87 38 0.304
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
phew, worked. so, all the normal caveats about how this is probably a really flawed pseudo "analysis", there's probably something crucial i missed, but maybe someone will find this interesting.
a common catcher stat is caught stealing percentage (CS% in the stats above), but beyond just being able to throw someone out, a strong arm also reduces the number of times a runner runs in the first place. i was daydreaming about yadier molina earlier (as usual), and wanted to see if there was a way to measure the fear that he strikes into the runners of opposing teams. i didn't expect that he'd actually top the list, but i'm kind of happy that he did. <3 yadi.
"SB ATPS" is the total number of times that a runner has attempted to steal so far this season on various catchers, and is calculated by adding CSB (the # of times the runner successfully reached) and CS (the # of times the runner was thrown out). "GP" is the number of games played AT CATCHER (so it excludes the games played at 1B or DH, for example). note that i also stripped out the results for any catcher who hasn't caught at least 90 games at the position this year (so no mauer, i guess).
"SB ATPS/GP" is the key result - number of stolen base attempts on catchers per game played at the position. generally, the results correlate to CS% as you might expect, with catchers with higher CS% generally seeing fewer SB attempts per game.
of course, the caveats - buster posey is at the bottom here, but SF pitchers are notorious for having sloooooow releases.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)
anyway, it's tough to quantify, but obviously one advantage of having a catcher that opposing runners don't run on very often is that it frees up the pitcher to concentrate more on the batter and to be more flexible with their pitches in terms of pitch type and location.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
also lol at rod barajas
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)
Interesting stuff, thanks for assembling that! If the numbers aren't too hard to assemble, could you post David Ross' line? I'd be curious how he and McCann compare. I've gotten the impression that he's more dangerous to run on and is actually the better defensive catcher of the two.
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)
sure, hereya go (i also added in dWAR and CERA). this time i left in anyone with 20+ games at catcher. looks like Ross is near the top.
PLAYER TEAM GP ATPS/GP SB ATPS CSB CS CS% CERA DWAR Yadier Molina STL 134 0.537313433 72 38 34 0.472 3.63 2.6 Miguel Montero ARI 136 0.544117647 74 43 31 0.419 3.93 0.7 Jose Molina TB 100 0.58 58 39 19 0.328 3.22 0.5 Ryan Hanigan CIN 108 0.592592593 64 33 31 0.484 3.05 1.5 David Ross ATL 53 0.603773585 32 17 15 0.469 3.56 0.4 Matt Wieters BAL 131 0.633587786 83 51 32 0.386 3.84 1.3 John Buck MIA 104 0.634615385 66 48 18 0.273 3.89 0.9 Russell Martin NYY 125 0.64 80 61 19 0.238 4.1 0.1 Josh Thole NYM 99 0.727272727 72 55 17 0.236 3.79 1.2 Rob Brantly MIA 26 0.769230769 20 16 4 0.2 4.07 0 Kurt Suzuki OAK/WSH 116 0.801724138 93 65 28 0.301 3.55 0.8 A.J. Pierzynski CHW 125 0.824 103 76 27 0.262 4.11 0.3 A.J. Ellis LAD 129 0.829457364 107 73 34 0.318 3.33 1 Wil Nieves COL/ARI 24 0.833333333 20 17 3 0.15 4.52 0 George Kottaras MIL/OAK 53 0.867924528 46 38 8 0.174 4.53 -0.1 W. Castillo CHC 47 0.872340426 41 32 9 0.22 5.02 0.6 Joe Mauer MIN 74 0.878378378 65 56 9 0.138 4.94 -0.8 Wilin Rosario COL 102 0.892156863 91 61 30 0.33 5.08 0.6 Brian McCann ATL 112 0.892857143 100 76 24 0.24 3.38 0.6 Jason Castro HOU 77 0.896103896 69 57 12 0.174 4.5 0.4 Geovany Soto TEX/CHC 94 0.904255319 85 65 20 0.235 4.16 0.1 John Hester LAA 38 0.921052632 35 30 5 0.143 4.01 -0.2 Michael McKenry PIT 79 0.924050633 73 61 12 0.164 4.28 0.4 Devin Mesoraco CIN 53 0.924528302 49 39 10 0.204 4.24 -0.1 Hector Sanchez SF 54 0.925925926 50 38 12 0.24 4.03 0.3 Gerald Laird DET 55 0.927272727 51 41 10 0.196 4.07 -0.2 Carlos Ruiz PHI 104 0.932692308 97 64 33 0.34 4.18 1 J.Saltalamacc. BOS 101 0.940594059 95 78 17 0.179 4.74 0.2 Miguel Olivo SEA 72 0.944444444 68 47 21 0.309 3.88 Carlos Santana CLE 99 0.949494949 94 69 25 0.266 4.63 0.7 Wilson Ramos WSH 24 0.958333333 23 19 4 0.174 3.11 0.1 Jonathan Lucroy MIL 86 0.976744186 84 65 19 0.226 4.25 1 Rod Barajas PIT 98 0.979591837 96 90 6 0.063 3.75 Yasmani Grandal SD 52 1.0 52 40 12 0.231 4.02 0.9 Alex Avila DET 111 1.009009009 112 78 34 0.304 3.61 1.2 Steve Clevenger CHC 51 1.019607843 52 45 7 0.135 4.55 0.1 John Baker SD 55 1.036363636 57 48 9 0.158 3.95 0.2 Ramon Hernandez COL 46 1.043478261 48 36 12 0.25 5.5 -0.4 Chris Snyder HOU 72 1.069444444 77 60 17 0.221 4.76 0.2 Ryan Lavarnway BOS 28 1.107142857 31 28 3 0.097 5.96 -0.6 Buster Posey SF 112 1.116071429 125 87 38 0.304 3.53 0.2 Lou Marson CLE 67 1.119402985 75 64 11 0.147 4.95 -0.4 H. Quintero KC 43 1.139534884 49 32 17 0.347 4.13 0.8 Jesus Montero SEA 55 1.145454545 63 53 10 0.159 3.89 -0.9 Brayan Pena KC 52 1.307692308 68 52 16 0.235 4.27 0.5 Nick Hundley SD 56 1.410714286 79 54 25 0.316 4.16 1
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)
ugh, there may be a few other guys missing. i was looking for Tony Cruz (cards backup c) and don't see him.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:04 (thirteen years ago)
hey zach, did you read this dave cameron post? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/yadier-molina-is-having-a-johnny-bench-season/
he also refutes in the comments the idea that there isn't a vast difference in the defense (specifically throwing runner out) of yadi & posey
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks, ZS, interesting stuff. Just realized Ross' bWAR is higher than McCann's in half the number of games. :-(
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:24 (thirteen years ago)
i was daydreaming about yadier molina earlier (as usual)that seriously made me laugh!
and where's JP Arencibia?!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)
xpost yeah, that post was actually what made me think about putting the stats together! yeah, i'm definitely not saying posey belongs in the upper tier of defensive catchers, just that having to wait for lincecum's delivery (for example) every 5th day probably doesn't help him much.
fuuuuuuuck! yeah, again, sorry. i could explain why certain players are doing but i think it would just cause more confusion. let's just say it has to do with the shitty way that ESPN presents their data (requiring going through multiple pages to copy and paste information into a spreadsheet, "qualified" vs "unqualified" catchers, etc)
fwiw, JP Arencibia has 92 games played, 72 steals attempted against him and a .278 CS%. Runners are attempting .78 steals per game against him, which would put him between Rob Brantly and Kurt Suzuki in the list above.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, i started a few sentences with yeah up there, yeah i did
yeah, we don't mind.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 1 October 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)
― mookieproof, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)
i didn't realize barajas was that awful. when i get home i kind of want to look at the last x number of seasons and see how historically terrible his CS% has been.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 1 October 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)
also he's hitting .208/.285/.346
seems like a nice guy, albeit one who needs to get on with his life's work
― mookieproof, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)
LOL @ AL East conspiracy whispers that the Red Sox will throw the next three games in order to push their 2013 first rounder to the fifth pick.
― sanskrit, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)
people are thinking about this too hard.
lol @ the idea that the red sox would have to throw the games to lose
― omar little, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)
two things:
1) yadi just did another absolutely PERFECT throw to second base to throw out jay bruce. on a straight line, landing in the glove about 2 inches above the ground. crazy.
2) this could just be something that al hrabosky (cardinals broadcaster), who is notoriously an idiot, says, but is it true that left handed hitters prefer pitches in the lower part of the plate? he's always saying shit like that - that the ball is low, which is right in a LH batter's wheelhouse, etc. but if that's true, why? why is a left handed batter's swing any different than a right handed batter?
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)
2) is sorta a lore-thing ive always heard also tho xtremely ancedotally, im left-handed and always preferred the ball down. just saw it better i think? idk its been ages since ive even swung a bat
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)
but...how would that be possible? obv the right-handed batter is the same thing as left-handed...just in reverse, right? i'm assuming it has something to do with pitch selection maybe? idgi
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)
LH as well and feasted on knee-high, inner-half of plate.
Do RH prefer knee-high, inner-half against lefties?
― Andy K, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 00:51 (thirteen years ago)
Bosox givin it all they got!
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)
once heard a theory that because a lot of left-handed hitters are naturally right-handed, there's something about having your strong hand below that leads to liking the ball down.
(i don't believe this theory, but it's the only explanation i've ever heard for the lefty/low-ball truism)
otoh, no one ever seems to shift the defense around for right-handed hitters (had i reached the majors, i would have been an exception). are lefties more prone to pull the ball? why?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)
i was taught that you always pitch a guy with glasses down, because he'll have to look through the thick part of the lens, with more distortion, to see it
and that when leading off first, you lead inside the baseline, so that to the pitcher, it looks like you're closer to the bag than you actually are
lotta stupid shit in baseball, but maybe none stupider than that one
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:19 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, I can't recall if righties did better on inside/low off me. Not that there's really any comparison between HS and MLB.
I do remember being fucking terrified, as a hitter, about facing fireballing lefties like this guy (though he's listed as RH; maybe it was his brother?): http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/schefaa01.shtml
― Andy K, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, must have been his brother.
OK, so I was terrified to face both of them.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)
nearly all meaningful games are outta hand now, gotta wait for OAK-TEX
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:45 (thirteen years ago)
nuh uh, cards are only up 3-1 over the reds. if they lose tonight and LAD win, the dodgers will only be a game behind.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i know. Sorry Z, after they hang on I can't wait for the Cards to get bounced out of the WC game.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:02 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, they really don't deserve it this year, especially. Who do you like in the NL, then? Nats? Reds? Giants? Surely not the braves?
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)
There's a pecking order, w/ my top pref prob being an Oak-DC World Series. Dinosaurs get to fume over Strasburg irrelevancy AND a Beane pennant, then.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)
BOS@NYY allegedly to start on time, been wet all day
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)
just mentioned on the mets telecast - cubs v astros 2night is the 1st time 2 100-loss teams have played each other since 1962
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)
damn shields is dealing
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)
15ks
that's a tough loss for james shields
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)
i wonder what the record is for highest game score in a loss.
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)
#10 game score of the year
― zachylon (zachlyon), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
becomes the only top 20 game score to result in a loss
― zachylon (zachlyon), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:41 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― zachylon (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)
Ben Sheets last start/game starts in just over an hour.
A victory for the Pirates would give them their winningest season since 1992.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)
Sheets'
M Bourn walked.M Bourn stole second.M Bourn stole third.M Prado hit sacrifice fly to right, M Bourn scored.
rod barajas, now 6-for-98 on stolen base attempts
(tbf bourn is good and aj sucks at holding runners, but jeez)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)
I know Barajas lost the handle on the ball during the 3B swipe. Probably wouldn't have made any difference.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
intersting factoid: "In Game 7 of the 1996 NLCS, with Chipper Jones on the field, the Braves ended Ozzie Smith's career. Friday night, 16 years later, the Cardinals will have a chance to end Chipper's career."
― bnw, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)
that makes it sound like they broke Ozzie's legs!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)
andrelton's got a gun
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)
it was tony larussa that actually ended ozzie smith's career iirc
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)
I wish I hadn't missed Sheets' inning of work -- apparently he really aired it out and hit 95-96, knowing he didn't have to save himself for anything.
― Death Grits 2 (WmC), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)
http://espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/stark_jayson/id/8456932/mlb-postseason-tiebreaker-scenarios
Man, a lot of stuff is gonna get decided tonight. Pretty fun.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
clap clap clapclapclap
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)
okay, so if Miggy ties in HRs, does he get the Triple Crown?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
yaz was tied with harmon killebrew for homers in '67
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)
you'll have to factor in late-season homers of course
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)
tiebreaker is # of second half HR.
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)
lol dan johnson is trending again on the last day of the season
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:05 (thirteen years ago)
8th in all of mlb in hits is.......marco scutaro!
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)
@joe_sheehanThe regular season is now the All-Star Game. Two news cycles later, no one cares.
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 October 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)
No idea where to put this--a list of "clubhouse cancers" through the ages.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1035006-30-worst-clubhouse-cancers-in-baseball-history?source=taboola
Some are obvious, some I really question.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 02:50 (thirteen years ago)
Jan. 23, 2012--breaking story.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)
That article reads like it was written by a high school freshman.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)
relevant: 2010 MLB all clubhouse-chancre team NEED HELP
also i count 3 lol comeback better attitude stories in there barring M Cabrera
― sanskrit, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)
mlb net has a 100 best plays of 2012 countdown show, it's p good im up to 86, nice plays abound
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 November 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)
damn i never saw larry leveling kratz
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 November 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)
68 is dickey getting robbed by bryan petersen i remember that play what do i win
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 November 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)
lol sic willie blompquist play followed by a rod barajas walk off
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 November 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)
is this real life
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 November 2012 01:36 (thirteen years ago)