2007 ALCS: Cleveland y Red Sox

Cleveland in 6

Sox in 7

omg, one of the few things I got on the nose in my BP Predictatron ballot was this ALCS matchup! So I'm sticking with my March pick: Tribe in 6.

SOX 5

Tribe in 6

This series is gonna rock bells. I'll root for Cleveland, but I think it'll be Sox in 6.

Wahoos in 6.

it's gonna go like this:

game 1: http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2037/italiansoj1.jpg

game 2: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/363/bostonredsoxlogous3.jpg

game 3: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5717/negoq8.jpg

game 4: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/363/bostonredsoxlogous3.jpg

game 5: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4743/chinesepc7.jpg

game 6: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/859/latinosrc3.jpg

is that face basically bugs bunny's face?

http://www.foxnews.com/images/276881/0_61_giuliani_smiling.jpg

Sox in 6.

morbs just blew my mind.

oh btw

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/BDD_CS_mow_10.7.07_mw.jpg

I honestly like both teams, but I think if Manny and Ortiz are due up late and close vs. Borowski, it could get real ugly real quick.

Red Sox in 6.

Sox, Six.
tho i'm cheering for the tribe.

tribe in five

red sox in five

cleveland red skins

I just can't get behind that mascot. Red Sox in 5.

I will say Red Sox in seven as my way of indicating that I have no idea who will win.

I wouldn't be disappointed if Chief Wahoo disappeared. This was the logo before the "modern" wahoo. It boggles the mind.

http://thephoenix.com/SoxBlog/content/binary/Wahoo.gif

Indians in 6.

tie

yeah, the borowski thing

tribe in 6

Tito says Schilling will pitch game two.

Tito asks, "Where in the world is Rap05a?"

his silence speaks volumes

BOS in 7.

Bosox 5, enough pitching to hang with tribe's big 2 + manny & papi look on. The Indians manager seems like a dumbass too.

game one
http://www.probikeoutlet.com/images/capoforma%20lowrider%20sock%20red.jpg
game two
http://www.finntradeservices.com/catalog/images/Nilkkasukat_lores1.jpg
game three
http://www.sweetmarias.com/india.gif

game four
http://www.britannica.com/mw/c10/art/tepee.gif
game five
http://www.iloveindia.com/indian-heroes/gifs/mahatma-gandhi-indian-hero.jpg
game six
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/4499/FredArmise_Mazur_7864421_400.jpg

jason sudeikis = indians because in 30 rock he went to the cleve', remember?

Might as well post this here:

ESPN's list of the 50 greatest LCS moments (great list, IMO)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=LCSmoments/071008

I attended #32, and being reminded of #18 just ruined my evening.

Clemens has gone nuts twice in the postseason.

FUCK YOU, RICK MONDAY!

It was the closest the Expos would ever come to the World Series.

AND PRECISELY THE SAME EXACT IDENTICAL THING TO YOU, 1994!

Half-prospector/half-monkey

damn son

Yeesh

christ! Stephen King! ;_:

Carmona you are our last hope! Sinkerbell!!

1.5 liter of Cabernet I drink you.

gagne, you make garbage innings fun!

that was like the best & worst of gagne

shouldn't Hafner be called Pronkey?

I'm sure we'd all like to flee to the Cleave'

I just saw that episode last night and the really crazy thing about that scene is that Baldwin references Port Arthur, TX.

From the Times report:

Since the playoffs began, Boston’s devastating third and fourth hitters have been on base in 29 of 36 plate appearances, a shocking statistic.

manny has an 11 game ALCS hitting streak

i have nothing valuable to contribute but GO CLEV TRIBE PLS!!

Mccarver is sounding hoarse tonight

Who knew Jacque Jones was so clutch?

JAMES TAYLOR WTF

loooooooooooooool

"mike lowell... a nice guy"

I didn't think they were gonna top "The Boy Who Loved Brady Quinn," but there you have it.

Buck is technically tolerable after several games of Skip Caray.

pretty great game so far

HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does watching homeruns going over the monster ever lose its luster? Damn.

Not as long as the guys hitting them have white jerseys on.

ALCS Game 2 vs. The Decemberists/Explosions in the Sky on Austin City Limits.

Picture-in-picture to the rescue.

And here comes Gagne.

Gagme

That Gagne is so hot right now.

FFS.

Go Tribe! I thought the game was over when a. the Indians didn't score with a runner in scoring position and one out in the top of the tenth and b. the Red Sox had Ortiz, Ramirez, and Lowell in the bottom of the tenth. So what happens? They go 1-2-3! Crazy.

11th inning mega lols. i can get behind the red sox as individual dudes but the abstract red sox ideal is annoying.

what is "the abstract red sox ideal"?

the nu-nucules centering around varitek and his mutating offspring: youkilis, pedroia, and mike lol

who knew I could've caught the last out after a complete night at the rock show?

ha ha yeah. missed you guys at wfmu as a friend was having a thing that night. watched a little of the game there, then walked past sp at 1am. got home for the wrapup and sure enough it's the 11th.

I went to bed before the gruesome end. Argh. My mother's from Cleveland, though, and my 90 year old aunt still lives there and is a huge sports fan, so IF the Sox have to lose to anyone I'd rather my Aunt Martha be happy.

DAISUKE! GET IT TOGETHER. MAN!

haha, ortiz hit in the nuts by manny's groundball = chub budz 4ever

never thought Westbrook would outpitch dice k tonight

dice k is a #4 starter it looks like

more like dice-kei igawa, amirite?

im hoping this is just an adjustment year type of thing - but god he has suuucked recently

dudes, I hope even cleveland fans can agree that westbrook's strikezone is significantly wider than dice-k's... manny's ball 4 to load the bases called a strike for example...

/dice-k apologist

it's gone both ways wakeboader

/apologist

Man I don't want Cleveland to win.

a.) Sox are my favorite AL team.
b.) Cincinnati my favorite Ohio team.
c.)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5465/clevelandindiansxv5.gif

every right-thinking person should hate the Red Sox.

When the alternative is the Yankees? I don't think so.

sox r awes - theyve got big papi, green monster and a guy named coco crisp. also theyre from the city where i grew up.

i pretty equally despise the bosox and yankees...theres enough hate to go around!

tragic forever before finally winning while completing the greatest comeback in the history of sports and now everybody hates them

CAN NOT WIN

i like the yankees but i don't hate the sox. it's too much work to actually hate a baseball team. besides the cubs, i mean.

i hate the yankees - its pretty fun

i can see it being fun to hate the yankees though. i was thinking about this tonight, who can i hate on the sox? like, schilling, maybe, but i think he's hysterical. i can't hate anyone on that team. i can see people hating a-rod, jeter, etc etc etc though.

yeah thats what im sayin - besides shilling all the sox are pretty lovable or innocuous

...and that game was poopy

bases loaded w/no outs wtf

Urgh.

It's easy to hate the Red Sox -- they are just a team built with money and lots of it ... just like the Yanks. Two best hitters stolen from smaller market teams that couldn't afford them. Fans that actually somehow manage to be *more* annoying than Yankees fans. Jimmy Fallon. I don't hate any of the Red Sox players individually. (except of course Schilling but that's a given) I don't hate any of the Cubs players either .. they all seem pretty cool actually. It's all about the annoying fans.

And jhoshea I didn't start disliking them "now", in fact I was actually rooting for the Yankees throughout that "greatest comeback".

oh man, its not difficult to hate the sox but thats for another day. GO CHIEF WAHOOS! 2 MORE PLZ..

they are just a team built with money and lots of it ... just like the Yanks

in fact I was actually rooting for the Yankees throughout that "greatest comeback"

uh

also jimmy fallon is from southern conn and admitted to routing for the the mets in 86

and while boston may be full of frat boy assholes - its impossible for anyone to be lamer than glory-whore yankee fan history enthusiasts - most of whom didnt grow up within 500 miles of nyc

drunken wall street types @ yankee stadium in their black slacks and blue shirts uhg

<i>Two best hitters stolen from smaller market teams that couldn't afford them.</i>

Um, dude - not that actually acknowledging you're half wrong is going to matter any, but: David Ortiz was let go by Minnesota. He wasn't picked up by Boston because Minnesota couldn't afford him. He was picked up by Boston because the Twins didn't think he'd be worth a damn, & tried their best (according to some accounts) to make him hit against his strengths. In fact, if it wasn't for Jeremy Giambi (the Sox DH starting in 2003) sucking, Ortiz would either be going gonzo for another team, or going gonzo in another baseball league.

But, hey, whatever works for you, broseph.

STUPID TAGS

Fans that actually somehow manage to be *more* annoying than Yankees fans.

annoying fans are equally annoying everywhere (this is not limited to sports)

Jimmy Fallon.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6223/161/400/photo-dead.gif

cleveland has this series i think, game 4 going to the sox, game 5 and 6 to the redskins

Kenny being Kenny

it's all about GRADY'S LADIES

man, what happened to the big mo

i will take dice-k apologizing to the next level: has anyone else noticed umps getting CONFUSED by dice-k's pitches?? from the very first game he pitched, it seemed like some pitches corkscrewed into or out of the zone in a way umps hadn't seen; they ended up calling strikes balls and balls strikes. i know the CW on this - that it all evens out. but still. i feel like dice-k gets robbed pretty consistently.

It's easy to hate the Red Sox -- they are just a team built with money and lots of it ... just like the Yanks.

it was a faustian bargain, in order for the Red Sox to beat who they despised the most, they had to become them.

also:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9687/danecookas5.jpg

also:

http://hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/ben-red-socks.jpg

ugh they even look alike

i can't hate a team based on the people that like them.

in order for the Red Sox to beat who they despised the most, they had to become them.

i said this phrase almost exactly to a coworker (BoSox fan) juts this past weekend!

eh the sox had spent a lot of money for a while - they just got smarter

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/60/25/17/03/0060251703873_500X500.jpg

I can't really hate the Red Sox, but as Denis Leary said about 2004, THAT'S IT -- STORY OVER. Let's hear about the Other 28.

So "Daisuke" is not pronounced Dice-K, but everyone pretends it is?

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/bondy/docs/images/70205k6t.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/photoessay/top10-feuds/gfx/george-steinbrenner01.jpg

game set match yankee bitches

dice-k is just his nick name morbs

but no one ever uses his first name, to the point where I think ppl don't know that.

Anyway, can either Byrd or Wakefield break a pane of glass?

So "Daisuke" is not pronounced Dice-K, but everyone pretends it is?

it's a very close approximation... the "ke" at the end is not a "kay" sound, it's a short brief "keh" like the first syllable in "kettle".

If his name was "Daisukei", then "Dice-K" would be very accurate.

But to be fair, his nickname is actually one of America's better attempts at pronouncing a Japanese word ending with an "e" sound (cf: karate, karaoke, sake) which usually get butchered with a long "e" sound, rendering nearly incomprehensible to Japanese speakers.

I was waiting for you to clarify, thx

Top 5 ALCS Relievers, by WXRL (Expected wins added over a replacement level pitcher)

Rafael Betancourt, CLE, 6.85
Jonathan Papelbon, BOS, 5.14
Hideki Okajima, BOS, 4.43
Rafael Perez, CLE, 3.14
Joe Borowski, CLE, 2.78

Borowski? metrics has failed you.

Steve OTM, that U sound gets dropped in some regional accents too so Dice-K is actually really close (but I lived in Ottawa for a long time so my "kay" sounds like the Japanese "ke" already-- one of the most close-mouthed accents in North America!)

in fact some people would argue that ichiro's last name is more like "sue's key" than "sah-ZOO-ki"

Wake looks great, but can you assholes learn to hit already.

Crisp & Lugo are driving me insane.

CIO "nice piece of hitting" please

this game is moving along smartly and I appreciate it </old>

also, Byrd winds up like he's on the 1920 Indians

damn some pitching going on here

spoke too soon

what a bobble

two hours 'til the animated gifs show up

omg

FFS.

at least it will be quiet in boston tonight

TRIBE NATION

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/48/aa/32e692c008a0676ed7948010.L.jpg

mientkiewicz catches that foul popup

Awesome, Lester's warming up. I'd say they were intentionally trying to make this a 19-8 game, but there's no way Boston's scoring eight runs in this fucking series.

On the bright side, we're one game away from me getting my #83 shirt for my Halloween costume - "Sexy Eric Gagne" - for like $2 at the Twins store.

(7-2 now, back-to-back HRs - god i hate this fucking team sometimes.)

holy.

i should wait til the end of the game
but o what the hell:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6691/sportsfansyp4.jpg

hmmm.

too bad manny didn't do a curtain call this time too

http://nomaas.org/images/SlappyOHairless.gif

http://hellohappypitbulls.typepad.com/hello_happy_pitbulls/images/arodpursepink.jpg

are all red sox fans completely neurotic? I just got a long email from one describing how the "curse" is back and how the organization is being destroyed etc. god

yes

I knew it.

one trophy every 86 years is all you get, NOW SHUT UP

Please Boston Red Sox don't break my son's heart.

wait, his secondary rooting interest to the Brewers is Boston?

from Bernie Brewer to Bernie Carbo ;_;

"Who cares?" hehehe

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/24513

(weatheringdaleson your email is bouncing, stop by tonight sometime after 7:30pm)

It's not like the end of the world.

someone's going to get that trade they wanted.

i wonder how good manny would be if he cared. (or would he be worse?)

he might not be as relaxed on those 0 and 2 counts.

LOLOLOLOLOL: http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/119270858859540.xml&coll=2

oh no! now all those boston players who look to Manny for leadership will be disheatened. Come on, who cares what he says; he's obviously a nut who cares very much about hitting homeruns and watching them fly away. I can give fuck all about everything else.

I can't look at him without laughing a little bit.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/17/sports/baseball/manny.190.jpg

i <3 manny

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/17/sports/baseball/manny.190.jpg

i agree. manny's the antidote to all the white-knuckle hysterics that surround this sport.

it's not the end of the world, dudes.
http://www.cobrabrigade.com/images/MannyRamirez.jpg

http://www.thesportstruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/manny-ramirez-solar-system-2006.jpg

offseason= http://static.flickr.com/32/51947382_ef6c5c7d12.jpg= Manny not worrying

Other incidents of "Manny Being Manny"

September 7, 2002 - requests the song Good Times (I Get High) by Styles P for his plate appearances. The unedited song's obscene lyrics are played over the Fenway Park public address system.

Trivia

Enjoys Reggaeton [30]
Favorite movie is The Matrix. [31]
Lives at the Ritz-Carlton in Boston.[34]
Has distributed t-shirts displaying the phrase "Manny Being Manny".[35]
Nationally-syndicated sports radio host Jim Rome always refers to Ramirez' eccentric antics as visits to Planet Man-Ram.

CLEVELAND HOME OF THE ROCK COUNTRY MUSIC HALL OF FAME

http://z.about.com/d/countrymusic/1/0/G/2/H/dpeckphotoshoot11.jpg

GIT R DONE!!

Sports radio has been obsessing on the Manny statements all day, ffs. As my son pointed out, English isn't his first language, so get over it.

i hope that its not an issue of mistranslation! he's right.

It takes an event like 9/11 to remind us that we are playing a kid's game for a living, and it is important that we are the best at that kid's game at all costs.

ok, sometimes i care about his lazy baserunning

wigglesworth

why the fuck are there places in stadiums where its ambiguous as to whether something is a home run or not

and will tim carver plz stfu abt manny not hustling - weeee get it already

its not like its the end of the world or anything.

1. That ball was so gone.

2. Mark Shap-eye-ro??? That can't be right.

Also: no matter who wins tonight, Manny's gonna be at the center of at least 8 storylines in tomorrow's papers.

haterz

buck & mccarver, the protestant ethic, and the spirit of capitalism

lugo argh grounding into double play for nth time

mccarver giving a coital UNGH was scary

fuuuuck foul

ow my shirt

shits

hstencil, jhoshea both otm.

LET'S PLAY STRAND THE RUNNER!

many opportunities the red sox have blown this series

i ce cold josh beckett !!!

lofton, u madd

yah totally calm down grandpa

When Buck started to say, "And that's six strikeouts for.."

I would not have been surprised if he said "...Lugo" instead of "...Sabathia"

crisp and lugo both look completely useless

wau sizemore played that horribly

oh wow.

ALRIGHT A BREAK!

sweaty youk has been huge lately

come on!

sabathia's gonna eat sizemore

how many times do we get to see a replay of the almost lofton-beckett fight??

how much time you got?

Beckett has ended six of his seven innings with a strikeout.

papelbon ymca; hero

i wish something good for this coco character...

there u go

haha!

papelbon ymca; herohomo

-- jhøshea, Friday, October 19, 2007 3:18 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

fixed

i wish something good for this lugo character.

niiiice

papelbon ymca; homohero

should i continue?

yah i think so

Literally seconds between the Perez error and McCarver tirade about the Tigers and pitchers these days who can't field. If only we'd gotten a Bobby Shantz story out of him.

i wish for this pedroia character to come up big

ha

this is too easy

the youk doesn't need my help

uh this reliever here...

i wish for this papi character to hit a grand slam.

I love how this game is teetering on the edge of "Tom Mastny was never the same after that game!" territory.

that would be fine

haha good enough.

"this papi character" LOL

i wish for this no-hustle character to hit a three run dinger.

i wish for this manny character to have a pretext for raising his arms aloft

aw we pressed our luck

s'ok 7-1 is feeling fine

high life guy is in his cuuups

ohyeah

NASTY.

i pray for this beackett to go nine innings.

yah im not seeing that

4:45am I'm going to bed PAPS DON'T FAIL ME NOW

i kinda hope they pitch gagne just to fuck with cleveland.

wau gooblar dedcation

lol

xp

(-)(-)

LIPITORRRRRR

his heart dont beat shhhhhhh

he really looks like a bat w/his mouth like that

wait what omg how did i not see paplbon gay step dancing before

ewww mccarver has a hardon for paps

so kevin what inspired you to go w/the maximum security lifer look?

is ellsbury playing saturday?

fucking hope so

srsly... schilling will need much more of a cushion than was provided tonight

(in the early innings )

not quite tribe time yet

manny's holding another meeting with the press.

beckett is best postseason pitcher ever?

oh, stifle.

Manny throwing helmet off before getting tagged out at plate > familiar jaking on long-distance single

Postseason comparison:

Bob Gibson(WS only):

7-2, 81 IP, 92 SO, 1.89 ERA

Josh Beckett:

4-0 65 IP, 72 SO, 1.78 ERA

Yeah, yeah, there weren't three rounds of playoffs in Gibson's time, it's kinda dumb to make comparisons before the 2007 playoffs are even over, and Mariano Rivera has been better than both these guys. Also worth considering: Gibson played in an extreme pitchers era, whereas Beckett is not. As for the quality of competition they faced, I'd call it a draw.

a friday night in october - no baseball.

brilliant, mlb, just brilliant.

and tomorrow's game is on at 8pm EST - will somebody please euthanize these antisocial, kid-hating fucks

cmon, I see kids on the train here at 2 a.m. all the time!

obv Beckett has a great October resume. So far.

a friday night in october - no baseball.

yeah, if this thing goes 7 then they'll be up against Sunday night football, with the added bonus of it being a work night for most people. Games this week should've went m-w, day off, Friday and Saturday.

schilling is about as unreliable as matsuzaka so game 7 is unlikely ;(

a friday night in october - no baseball.

brilliant, mlb, just brilliant.

and tomorrow's game is on at 8pm EST - will somebody please euthanize these antisocial, kid-hating fucks

no shit. So OTM. Start the games at 7 for fuck's sake.

Yeah, start it while everyone on the west coast is at work. Fuck the Louisiana Purchase, give that shit back to France.

I've been fuck-off tired all day today, due to staying up 'til 5am last night. Not saying mlb should tailor their schedule to expat sox-fans, just bitching.

Of course that does mean that I don't actually mind having a night off tonight.

if the rockies weren't as hot as they are, there would likely have been an NL game tonight, right?

yes

also, I imagine Boston is as wet as NYC today.

anyway, they come on at 2pm for me, and i can watch tv at work. i was in the car for the first few innings yesterday and missed the youkilis home run while driving through a tunnel.

it's cleveland vs boston, what is this "west coast" crap

Yeah, start it while everyone on the west coast is at work. Fuck the Louisiana Purchase, give that shit back to France.

CALL IN SICK OR WATCH ON GAMEDAY

CALL IN SICK OR WATCH ON GAMEDAY

STAY UP AN HOUR LATER THAN USUAL.

touche.

"watch" on gameday yeah right

Wow, didn't know this:

Francona’s next season in Boston will be his fifth, after all, and no Red Sox manager has made it through five full seasons since Joe Cronin managed from 1935-47.

Also: Ellsbury's in CF.

BIG GAME PITCHER PAUL BYRD

Well

holyshit @ drew

good time to get out of a slump.

i think j.d. drew now gets out of jail free for quite a while

wow am0n you posted that before it even came over the mlb.com vid feed!

it is so funny seeing lugo - or anybody - posturing in the dugout, helmetless, with a bat, waggling it purposefully, as if imitating a baseball player, just cause they're so psyched

lugo's still a cock though

i wish ellsbury hit without batting gloves, it would be perfect

by the way i have realized that with gameday audio i can overlay the mlb.com video with the wrko dudes

tuning out buck and carver almost makes up for the jittery picture

not to mention the 5,000,000,000th airing of that trailer for the sean astin sports propaganda movie

wow am0n you posted that before it even came over the mlb.com vid feed!

haha sp0ilarz!1

tracer did you actually pay for that stuff?

wtf at scorebar disappearing.

lol

ok its back.

good thing they pulled carmona.

omg.

lol youkilis header.

i guess schilling's got the insurance they were worried about.

Lowell came about 2 feet from breaking this game open.

If Ellsbury really is part Navajo, I hope he's swinging toward the Indians mascot at every bat.

Transformers logo before every replay - WHY

Transformers logo before every replay - WHY

I don't know, but I saw Transformers on IMAX last night.

I actually had just stepped outside when Drew hit the grand slam, but I could tell something had happened - a good deal of people on my block started loudly cheering and hollering at the same time.

Also, is Casey Blake a fan of The Chameleons, circa Strange Times?

"There's no sense sitting here dwelling on what happened in the past," Blake said. "We've got to have a warrior mentality. We have no future, and we have no past. We've got to just show up and get the job done."

Somehow just got tickets for tonight. Unreal.

Transformers wipe keeps making me think I'm really watching some sort of Batman cartoon and that Eric Wedge is bound to turn into a 2006 Saab at any moment.

Somehow just got tickets for tonight. Unreal.

:O

bring ur riot gear (regardless of the outcome)

went to bed in 4th inning

Yeah, me too, 'cept that was 3:30am here.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2004/241004redsox2.jpg

am0n otm

i just made coffee. g00blar where are you watching the game?

On the couch at home (Old St.).

Did Millar call Dice-K "Daniel Matsuzaka"?

I wonder if we'll see the sox swinging at some first pitches tonight against westbrook.

Hey, Drew's back! </soxfan>

omg i just realized this is on real TV!!

Oh shit! Sunday night!

haha i cannot stand Sut though, so I have:

- loaded up the WRKO feed
- but it is out of sync with the TV so I
- have started recording the game on my PVR, and paused it just on the crack of the bat, then hit play when i hear the crack on the WRKO
- BLISS

whytf did lugo not slide??? double play #3

Haha, I'm just gonna put up with Sutcliffe's need to always talk in 'maxims'. Nice call ump!

well you know how those plays at second are. if the ball gets there in time and the form is right, they just kind of give it to the defense i think.

see how magnanimous and understanding i can be?

this has really been a great game so far.

for fucks sake lugo

he had better hope lofton doesn't score here

because i will personally fly to boston and kick his ass myself. actually he'd probably knife me like he did his wife

oh man that Lofton play

If the Indians lose, no doubt that'll be discussed all off-season

*EXHALES*

the third base coach may have just cost them a run right there

Although I guess it is the 3rd base coaches fault for not waving him home

he's like "stop uh i mean, no go ahead -- wait stop -- go"

Give me a run then show me PAPS.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8461/wk2000gr8.jpg

wow what a weird inning.

how about them Boston rookies

is ellsbury the luckiest red sock? in this game he reached on a squirt ground ball, fielder's choice that bounced off a dude's glove (which otherwise would have been a DP), and an error by casey blake

i mean dude's 1 for 3 which ain't shabby but he's reached every time

you know what is awesome about watching this on channel 5 (uk):

- no commercials
- no network logo or promos during the game

by the way, you know why there are no commercials? channel 5 literally can find no one willing to pay.

sorry i'm kind of hopped up on coffee and wheat beer

LUGO DID YOU LEAVE YOUR BRAIN IN YOUR OTHER HAT TODAY WTF

Chanson Papelbon

I hate everybody.

wow - Betancourt must really want to get golfing

Jacoby Ellsbury is hardly lucky -- he is a Mormon Navajo from Oregon, so he makes his own fate.

oh holy fuck colorado is mountain time

LUGO YOU ARE SO USELESS

Wow, Betancourt caved big time

oh fuck yes! i am so, so tired though, please please wrap this up quickly now.

a big hand for the little man

he deserves it

Shades of the Patriots/Tom Brady here. Just pouring it on.

wow.

hahahaha

i may actually go to sleep when this inning finally finishes. there's no coming back from that.

i wonder if westbrook would have given up 11 runs. probably not.

murder

i feel bad for blake

haha ok coco we'll let you play an inning.

awwww crisp gets some action!!!!!

fuck boston

Oh well. Indians still got a hell of a lot further than anyone expected them to.

:) manny :)

Papelbon's face/dance at the end was great

did mccarver just call paps "a beauty"?

Go Rockies.

Joel Patrick Skinner (born February 21, 1961 in La Jolla, California) is a former catcher in Major League Baseball and is currently the third base coach of the Cleveland Indians, who he just helped lose the American League Championship Series Game 7 against Boston by holding up Kenny Lofton. He is the son of Bob Skinner, a National League outfielder in the 1950s and '60s. He is known for making the best call in baseball history and advancing the Red Sox to the world series.

gotta love wikipedia

I hate this fucking sport so goddamn much.

yet you continue to watch

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/CryingIndian.jpg

Slightly disappointing postgame "riot," Boston. :(

Highlight of the game = random brahdudes (total strangers, I think) in RF grandstand mouth-kissing each other after Pedroia's homer like they were auditioning for a community theater production of "Take Me Out" or something.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2007/10/22/1193030117_9715.jpg

that is ortiz's wife!!

asleep by the 5th this time.

Damn few competitive games since the NYY-CLE "bug" contest.

wow the media might be making a little too much of the lofton play - final score 11-2 guys

asleep by the 5th this time.

Damn few competitive games since the NYY-CLE "bug" contest.

In the middle of the fifth, it was a 3-2 ballgame. In a game 7. Does a game have to be tied to be "competitive"?

yeah uh

jhøshea that's true but at the time it was 3-2, the next pitch was a double play ball, and then...

so 11-3 then

7th inning or later, I mean

The Sox caught some breaks early in game 7 (bad hop single, lofton safe on the double) but the Tribe was never really going to win anyway. When they couldn't close it out at home I felt their chances slipping away.

Westbrook finally settled in was yanked after retiring 8 straight hitters. Can't really fault Wedge for going with Bettancourt but Westbrook was looking good and I hoped he'd go one more inning.

All in all though the collapse was a team effort- hitting, pitching and coaching. disappointing

ppl sure like "collapse." To use Eric Byrnes' fave word, Indians were just "outplayed" for 3 nights.

At least SABR might get better seats at the Jake next June.

Joe Sheehan: "Victor Martinez is slower than the Mitchell Commission."

ha ha

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/sports_blog/blog/970x240_cle_ws.jpg

the curse of chief wahoo

oh c'mon. xpost

yes

http://shysterball.blogspot.com/2007/10/joe-posnanski-wahoo-curse.html

1 the creation of racism offences
2 continual change to create confusion
3 the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4 the undermining of schools and teachers' authority
5 huge immigration to destroy identity
6 the promotion of excessive drinking
7 emptying the churches
8 an unreliable legal system with bias against the victim of crime
9 dependency on the state or state benefits
10 control and dumbing down of media
11 encouraging the breakdown of the family
12 banning beloved mascots

Were it not for the fact that Dennis Kucinich used to be mayor there, I'd say your little elf would be next.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/2007/10/22/JYkDUw85.jpg

when did they start wearing goggles?
is "Champagne eye" some condition I am not aware of?
being a baseball fan is getting harder and harder to justify every year.

I didn't realize this was a Momus thread.

Tracer OTM re: Lofton at 3rd base. It seemed like a tough call for the coach, as Manny actually RAN in at the ball, maybe looking like he was going to throw for home, but then didn't. but yeah, if they had tied it up there and not gotten the subsequent double play, the came MIGHT have been different.

then again, Blake turned in such a disgusting performance at 3rd base...NOT running after the ball he flubbed and making the fielder sprint in after it?? DO YR JOB

i hate blake's stupid ass beard

dudes the lofton play and the double play are unrelated. why not just say like if the red sox had scored 10 less runs the indians wouldve won.

If the Red Sox had scored 10 fewer runs, the Indians would've won.

Bukkake Matsuzaka

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yr being ridiculous, dudes

if lofton had scored or not been called out at 2nd, the game WOULD have been different. they may not have won, but still. you're acting like things don't happen sequentially or something

It's like everyone blaming Bartman for the Cubs losing in 2003. Like he was responsible for the Marlins to score eight more times that night.

rw OTM on the Fallacy of the Predetermined Hit(s)

these are not the arguments to make abt an 11-2 game. cleavland got destroyed. this game clearly didnt hinge on one or two plays.

and in general that sort of cherry picking is kinda ridiculous as a baseball game is made up of a lot of situations - the team who get more of them to go their way wins.

jeez if only the red sox hadnt hit into 3 double plays they couldve scored 17 runs which wouldved just edged out cleavland's 15 that they wouldve got if only kenny lofton had scored that one time and then instead of a double play they got a three run homer and then scored 5 more runs in the inning getting to boston's bullpen early leading to extra innings w/the score tied 15-15 when pinch hitter eric gange drove in two runs in the bottom of the 21st w/a sacrifice bunt that glanced off the imagination of the 3rd base coach...

and i am not acting as if things dont happen in order or indulging in "the Fallacy of the Predetermined Hit(s)"

i think river wolf is talking about momentum here--

everyone knows the red sox own all the momentums

other message boards we should start beef with

http://www.topix.com/forum/baseball-players/ryan-garko

fair nuff, jhøshea, it was a "turning point" is all

arent you supposed to say "tipping point" now lol

i think river wolf is talking about momentum here--

-- Mr. Que, Monday, October 22, 2007 8:12 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, this. that lofton run might have bucked up cleveland morale. because after they all looked like a bunch of sad sacks.

The impact of the Lofton events (umpire's call at 2nd, coach's call at 3rd) reminds me of Krakauer's Into Thin Air. Small choices and judgment calls resulting in disasters seemingly out of all proportion to their individual causes. It's not about "blaming" Skinner for the blowout that came later. His judgment call wasn't disgraceful; it was just mistaken. But that's not to deny that its impact on the opportunities available to both teams and the psyche of the players and crowd. That's baseball.

er, "not to deny that its impact"

Every inning is a new inning just like every game is a new game.

That's why I hate the Yankees so much. Used to be that they could be behind 10-4 in the eighth inning and still pull a win out of their collective asses.

The Indians couldn't afford to blow the opportunities they had available last night. Red Sox hit into a thousand and one double plays and still win going away. Hafner strikes out with two guys on and nobody out- Indians can't recover.

Hafner is slowly turning into Russell Branyan.

Leaving Betancourt in was a much bigger mistake than not sending Lofton home. Dude looked gassed to me.

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http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/red.sox.win.alcs/images/77206334(6).jpg

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http://creamjoints.blogspot.com/2007/10/co.html