We Can't Afford a Catcher: The 2013 New York Yankees

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phil franchise out two weeks with a bulging disc

amazing thread title!

def approve

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/rod_gaga_joined_at_hips_goVHSvozbwTfT4okYgJxVP

granderson hbp, fractured forearm, out 10 weeks

RIP

vernon wells would be a great fit for this team imo

oy

cano and a lot of crossed fingers

Mr. April:

"We'll just have to have guys step up," first baseman Mark Teixeira said on YES. "It's going to be tough."

"It's hot in here, huh," Teixeira added, wiping his brow.

maybe next year

Alfonso Soriano, come on down!

time to get that Heyzeus Montrero kid up from the minors.

Heyzeus, don't make it bad

take a Banuelos and make it better

http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kevin-youkilis2-540x363.jpg

weird

after a year off, would jorge posada (who is in fact in camp and 'working with the catchers' as a coach) still be a better option for the yanks than cervelli/stewart? perhaps not, but it's not an instant no.

otoh they probably can't afford him either

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/1/4054924/this-is-kevin-youkilis-without-a-goatee

omg

even his normal head looks photoshopped!

dude has to have a screw loose to go play in ny

brian cashman broke his ankle sky diving for charity

obligatory joke about the yankees being old and broken, get it, it doesn't really matter cause he's the GM, etc

http://daps.tv/source-robinson-cano-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-and-curtis-granderson-to-be-suspended/

ZOINKS

― This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Monday, March 4, 2013 9:28 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Posted by chris

I'm a polymath with ADD, Entrepreneur, & ENTP whose aim is to emphasize awesomeness in pop-culture. I've described the contents of my mind as "Similar to Heffalumps and Woozles"

doesn't sound shit like an ENTP, poser

maybe he's right! but at this point i'd avoid getting all het up about reports from daps.tv posted by a dude mentioning heffalumps

[Bill Simmons is] a polymath with ADD, Entrepreneur, & ENTP whose aim is to emphasize awesomeness in pop-culture. I've described the contents of my mind as "Similar to Heffalumps and Woozles"

i'm sorry -- are you chris? bless your heart

i'm bill simmons :(

this isn't really being talked about?

yeah tbf the guy who tweeted it only has 100 some followers, i just reposted it from a msg board taking it v seriously, sry :(

>:[

but hey if it turns out to be true you all owe me a coke

i hate u bill simmons

*writes 2000 words about that*

TAMPA, Fla. -- Another day, another injury for the New York Yankees.

Slugger Mark Teixeira has pulled out of the World Baseball Classic after injuring his right forearm swinging in the batting cage.

Teixeira was set to start at first base for Team USA but was scratched from the lineup for Tuesday's exhibition game against the Chicago White Sox.

"It sucks to see someone get hurt like that,'' Team USA and Texas Rangers pitcher Derek Holland said. "I know he's not on my team (in the regular season) but you never want to see anyone get hurt.

Team USA said Teixeira will be sidelined eight to 10 days.

"I was kind of shocked," said Yankees manager Joe Girardi.

Girardi said that the initial X-rays were negative, but that Teixeira would go for more tests.

"He was taking swings in the cage and felt something," Girardi said. "It was in his hand or wrist. I'm sure there will be more tests."

Girardi said he didn't know the severity of the injury or what the next step will be.

"I'm sure our people will want to see him too," Girardi said.

this has been the best offseason ever.

i assume Piniella is doing these YES games just cuz he lives in Tampa. He thinks .384 is a great OBP for a slugger -- hey loo, they get walked a lot.

juan rivera looks lost in right field

.384 is a fine obp!

fwiw:

Mark Teixeira is going to be out at least until early May with a strained right wrist tendon, the latest major injury setback for the New York Yankees.

New York general manager Brian Cashman gave the news after the Yankees' were beat 8-2 by the Dominican Republic World Baseball Classic team on Wednesday.

Teixeira was hurt swinging a bat Tuesday in an indoor cage during pregame warmups with the United States' World Baseball Classic team. Initially, Teixeira was expected to be out eight to 10 days, but Teixeira was examined by Yankees doctors in New York on Wednesday and a diagnosis of eight to 10 weeks was given.

Teixeira was hurt swinging a bat Tuesday in an indoor cage

hard knock life

http://www.nyyankeesfragrance.com/

anesthesia?

WATCH MO'S #FirstThrow exclusively here.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=spring-training&id=923&src=desktop

think of the good times

We were all young and beautiful, once

Am I the only one who feels nothing at mo's retirement? Granted he was a great player but I never felt the guy had any personality

lotta fuss over one inning

'yankees are trying to talk derrek lee out of retirement'

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/IP_active.shtml

46.	Jered Weaver (7, 29)	1320.1	R
47.	LaTroy Hawkins (18, 39)	1303.2	R
48.	Edwin Jackson (10, 28)	1268.2	R
49.	Mariano Rivera (18, 42)	1219.2	R
50.	Tim Lincecum (6, 28)	1214.0	R

21. Jamey Wright (17, 37) 1896.1 R

legitimately dont know who this is

Goose Gossage on Rivera, and Posnanski on Gossage.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/chipper-jones-headshake.gif

Brian Cashman would really like Chipper Jones to come out of retirement

@JeffPassan
If Jeter hits DL, Yankees will have $88.2M worth of players on it -- more than 13 teams' payrolls

lol -- Chipper was scheduled to spend a few days at Braves camp this spring and said "you guys got this, have a good season" and went home after one day, iirc.

'strong chance' of vernon wells to the yankees

This has just been the perfect offseason!

breathtaking

and now we won't be able to get dollar seats in july!

oh no

Angels should have forced Wells to play in the WBC and take a dive.

http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/837/ryk.png

Fastball upstairs... I like Wells as a human being, but even I could strike him out at this point.

somewhere in hell, G Steinbush III is ranting about an exhibition tie with Houston.

projected opening day lineup:

1. CF: Brett Gardner
2. RF: Ichiro Suzuki
3. 2B: Robinson Cano
4. 1B: Kevin Youkilis
5. DH: Ben Francisco
6. LF: Vernon Wells
7. SS: Eduardo Nunez
8. 3B: Jayson Nix
9. C: Chris Stewart

scary

they'll still win 85 games tbh

designated hitter ben francisco has posted -2.0 war in 182 games over his last two seasons

http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/new-yorker-cover.jpg

please please tell me thats real

indeed it is

!!!

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 19m
Allow Jay-Z to reintroduce himself as an agent. Robinson Cano has left Scott Boras and hired Jay-Z to replace him. (via @darrenrovell)

The New Yorker is $6.99?

woah, the Jay-Z thing wasn't a late April Fools joke???

well, it's not *just* jay-z:

We don't know what the Jay-Z alliance with Creative Artists Agency (CAA) will produce in terms of tactics, which might be the same as Boras'. CAA is an experienced baseball group, so Cano will have an agent who knows what he is doing in Brodie Van Wagenen. The Yankees have done plenty of contracts with CAA.

wow, Hot 97 has been playing Scott Boras' diss track all day, dude is mad:

[q][gunshots]

[2Pac talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talking 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already[/]

ayo

Now pinch hitting for Jayson Nix: Ichiro

youk can't do this by himself, guys

he's their Tom Tresh '66

Houston -10
NY Yankees -16

missed this, but apparently john sterling characterized a certain friday home run as A NUKE . . . FROM YOUK

nuke lalyouksh

with a double tonight, russell martin is now 1-for-20 as a pirate, so maybe francisco cervelli really is the correct answer

i am told that john sterling uttered the following tonight: 'oh travis, you are a pronx bomber'

yes though i think he actually said "travis is a pronx bomber!"

also: a hafner homer!

the wells hr call is "the bronx is vernon!"

what is the point of my skipping Yankeecasts if you ppl are going to report Sterling's hurlings?

"a nuke from youk!!"

seven posts ago, max, but no FP for u bcz i'm a mensch

lol suzyn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ugBEPL4wfM&feature=player_embedded

i'm told that the yankees are going to play 'sweet caroline' tonight -- really wish there were a less thoroughly awful way to show support

"BB hits a BB! That's Boesch, by gosh!"

Jeter has a new fracture, out til post-All-Star at least

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9187339/derek-jeter-new-york-yankees-likely-not-back-all-star-break

sighhh

B. Gardner cf
V. Wells lf
R. Cano 2b
K. Youkilis 1b
B. Francisco dh
F. Cervelli c
I. Suzuki rf
E. Nunez ss
J. Nix 3b

We need to poll that lineup

joba to mariano: never shush me, bro

B Gardner CF
I Suzuki LF
R Cano 2B
T Hafner DH
B Boesch RF
C Nelson 3B
C Joseph 1B
C Stewart C
A Gonzalez SS

When the hell did they get Chis Nelson?

Guess the same can be said of most other active Yankees.

remember how the yankees were supposed to suck this year

never saw that via the PECOTA board

Top 1st: Seattle

- M. Saunders flied out to left
- D. Ackley walked
- K. Seager singled to shallow center, D. Ackley to third
- K. Morales singled to shallow left, D. Ackley scored, K. Seager to second
- M. Morse singled to right, K. Seager scored, K. Morales to third, M. Morse to second on right fielder I. Suzuki's fielding error
- J. Smoak walked
- R. Ibanez homered to deep right center, K. Morales, M. Morse and J. Smoak scored
- J. Montero singled to shallow center
- B. Ryan grounded into fielder's choice, J. Montero out at second
- M. Saunders doubled to right center, B. Ryan scored
- P. Claiborne relieved P. Hughes
- D. Ackley struck out looking

what is a p. claiborne

Preston Claiborne of the Rail Riding Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Claibornes.

i think u mean RailRiding

So the Yankees is partnering up with Manchester City FC to buy an expansion team for the MLS. I wonder if the fans are cool with that.

Broken pinky for Granderson

They pay cash dollar for the production, but the Yankees seem to have a knack for finding some ex-stars on the scrap heap and actually getting some results out of them. They really can't get a full season out of Vernon Wells and Pronk can they? They got results out of Eric Chavez, who seemed to come out of the injured wilderness last year to be pretty productive.

That said, this year's Yankees looks like some of those odd Yankee vet team mashes of the 80s like this one.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/1984.shtml

for a second I thought Howie Rose said Walt Hriniak was playing SS

lol yeah i sorta think cashman is now trolling, xpect him to sign that dude the fish let have 1 ab last yr (and for him to thrive)

first-ever Mo loss w/out getting an out

yeah that was awfully quick. didn't back up home on that first run either

Plate umpire Vic Carapazza called for the tarp almost immediately, and most Yankees players jogged off the field.

But not Kuroda.

Dejected and probably aware his outing was over, he walked slowly off the mound with his head down. Without even looking up, he underhanded the game ball into the third row of now-empty seats before descending into the dugout.

lyle playing RF tonight

Sparky?

love this kid and his pirate-fan dad

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9353831/ian-clarkin-apologizes-saying-cannot-stand-new-york-yankees

that is hilarious.

http://www.baseballnation.com/hot-corner/2013/6/11/4418804/cc-sabathia-bartolo-colon-heaviest-mlb-pitchers

everyone makes the Carmelo's Marshmallows joke but you never hear about Bartolo's Colonics.

will girardi use a position player before he uses rivera?

loool with men on 1st and 2nd and 2 out in the 14th, the a's ibb'd cano to load the bases

teixeira responded to this vicious slight by popping out

wow on 2 the 16th

Hafner and Wells a combined zero for 16.

here comes mariano

bold move, joe

mariano & his surfboard get wiped out, totally

sorry to doubt you joey g -- you were right all along

@robneyer
Yankees' 4-5-6-7 hitters went 0 for 28 with three strikeouts apiece. That, friends, is a difficult thing to do.

hot damn

Los Angeles - Bottom of 9th

NYY 6, LAA 0

CC Sabathia pitching for New York

M Trout doubled to left.

A Pujols walked.

D Robertson relieved C Sabathia.

M Trumbo singled to right, M Trout scored, A Pujols to third.

H Kendrick struck out swinging.

J Shuck hit for C Iannetta.

J Shuck walked, M Trumbo to second.

M Rivera relieved D Robertson.

E Aybar grounded out to first, A Pujols scored, M Trumbo to third, J Shuck to second.

A Callaspo singled to right, M Trumbo and J Shuck scored.

B Hawpe hit for B Harris.

A Callaspo to second on fielder's indifference.

B Hawpe singled to left, A Callaspo to third.

P Bourjos singled to left, A Callaspo scored, B Hawpe to second.

M Trout walked, B Hawpe to third, P Bourjos to second.

A Pujols struck out swinging.

NYY 6, LAA 5

chris stewart got his first double tonight, in his 151st plate appearance of the season

"It's all about the money for him now," a team source said. "He knows he's not getting into the Hall of Fame and he knows he's probably going to get suspended, so he's trying to figure out a way to make sure he gets paid."

Welcome to fourth place, my crosstown brethren.

Coming soon: 5th.

Didn't realize CC won his 200th yesterday. Not having a great year, but not having a terrible one, either, and still compiling. He's taking the Don Sutton route, but I think he's still in pretty good shape for the HOF if he can stay healthy (always a big "if"). He's actually almost 15 WAR ahead of Sutton (55-41) through age 32.

‏@JackCurryYES 1h
If Jeter has no setbacks at AAA, expectation is that he will rejoin the Yankees on Friday.

http://www.rockymusic.org/img/dvdcovers/ReturnOfCaptainInvincible-FrontCoverL.jpg

jetes 1-for-9 with 2 k and 4 bb in four triple-a games

a-rod 2-for-15 with 3 k and an rbi in six class a games

all three hits were singles

they will turn it on when the spotlight hits

amazing

@DannyKnoblerCBS
Jeter returns today as a DH. Yankee DH's have 2nd lowest slugging pct. in AL (.373), ahead of only the Astros.

furious argument raging in my office: jete or jetes?

jeetz

yeah idk if ive ever heard the singular 'jeet'

http://i.minus.com/i7ySvTzu8CDAg.gif

lol

another legendary moment for captain fistpump

1-0

jeter's right quad 'tightened up', will have an mri lol

"I hope it's not a big deal," Jeter said.

NEW YORK – A sticky rain fell in the Bronx on Friday afternoon, enough to cast a gloom over the borough, but not so much to clear the sidewalks on the Grand Concourse. A woman backed up the stairs to her apartment, heaving a stroller that clunked with each step. A little boy, presumably hers as well, idled at the door, under an awning and out of the rain. He wore a New York Yankees cap, dulled by perhaps a few rains like this.

Traffic was heavy, and while waiting for the light to change ahead, a few blocks from the news that the Yankees' 39-year-old shortstop was injured and would not play tonight and for at least another week, it occurs to you that a whole generation here knows nothing about life without Derek Jeter.

http://s2.favim.com/orig/28/cementery-gif-rain-sad-statue-Favim.com-240208.gif

can't believe that wasn't an al leong joint

'time to die'

should have closed it out with 'Derek Sanderson Jeter' tho

Jetes back to DLol

Brennan Boesch released!

A game of pure, simple pleasures -- a ball hitting the chalk fair in left, a runner scoring from first on a gapper, a called third strike painting the black, a Yankee breaking down into utter uselessness with $20-25M still on the books.

ha hah ahhaaa!

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9505893/alex-rodriguez-reps-think-new-york-yankees-mlb-conspiring-slugger

In a media blitz, Rodriguez's representatives, including a doctor who disputed the Yankees' interpretation of an MRI showing Rodriguez had a quad strain, began supplying details to support A-Rod's belief that the Yankees and MLB were conspiring to keep the $275 million third baseman off the baseball field.
Dr. Michael Gross, an orthopedic surgeon with Hackensack University Medical Center, spoke with ESPN New York and other media outlets to assert that his reading of the MRI showed no damage to Rodriguez's quad that should keep him off the field, and a source with ties to Rodriguez called several media outlets to reveal that Rodriguez had informed the Yankees he is ready to play and wants to be in the lineup Friday night when the team opens a three-game series at home against the Tampa Bay Rays.

"He feels he has no choice," the source told ESPNNewYork.com. "He wants to play, and they won't let him play. Nobody knows Alex's body better than he does."

Maybe a dumb question here, but are Yankees fans rooting for an A-Rod suspension so they're off the hook for his salary?

lol nunez's helmet

xpost -- I certainly would be if I were a Yankees fan.

ARLINGTON, Texas -- The New York Yankees are considering disciplining their estranged third baseman Alex Rodriguez for seeking a second medical opinion on his injured left quadriceps without following the procedures stipulated in baseball's collective bargaining agreement.

"I believe that we will be considering discipline," a team source told ESPNNewYork.com. "We haven't made any decisions yet."

According to Article XIII, Paragraph D of the CBA, a player may not seek a second medical opinion without first notifying his club in writing. Sources told ESPNNewYork.com's Andrew Marchand that Rodriguez notified Yankees president Randy Levine of his consultation with Dr. Michael Gross on Tuesday night, after it had occurred.

On the same late-night phone call, Rodriguez told Levine he did not trust Yankees team physician Christopher Ahmad, who diagnosed A-Rod with a Grade 1 quad sprain after an MRI was performed Sunday.

lol @ 'estranged third baseman'

Evan R OH HELL YES

that money alone could play for three Russell Martins!

needless to say, everyone besides sanskrit (and max/ally/other scheming plutocrats) thinks the yankees should pay mr. rodriguez in the manner to which they committed.

and it's one thing to avoid playing him (although i'm skeptical that their replacements are better, if 5% of the cost) but quite another to avoid paying him

they need to change their name to the Bloombergs

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9511031/alfonso-soriano-traded-new-york-yankees-chicago-cubs

yankees' season saved

next season too

CC Sabathia has allowed at least seven runs in three straight games for the first time in his career.

Alfonso Soriano Joins the Worst Right-Handed-Hitting Team of All Time

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21360

Yankees made plenty of money in the PED period winning 5 titles and employed A-Rod, Clemens, Giambi, Pettitte and Sheffield. They were the lunatics that signed A-Rod for a gazillion dollars to age 42. The guy is going to get suspended and when it is done, he's going to be back at Nu-Yankee stadium waiting for the rest of the millions they owe him. I just hope the catch phrase Nu-Yankee Stadium = 'the house that PED's built' would catch on.

happy birthday 2 arod

jeter homers on 1st pitch

what a leader of men

today was the yankees' third sellout of the season

Nu-Yankee Stadium has also less seats in it than the old place, which makes that only 3 sellouts even look a bit worse.

Stadium Comparison/Total Seating Capacity

Old Yankee Stadium
56,886

Current Yankee Stadium.
50,287

are there any yankees fans here

n/m i didn't want to be all "all yankees fans are horrible and i don't see what the point is in liking this team, at all, i have literally never seen a more dispassionate group of fans anywhere in the world and that includes every team in miami" to your hypothetical faces but i don't care, yankees fandom is in its own special little category so far removed from any semblance of any other thing resembling sports fandom anywhere in the world that it makes me literally barf everywhere

there are yankees fans here, yes

Have fun with the ups and downs that are Fonzie Sorianos twilight years.

getting pretty ugly for cc

we can endure the rebuilding years because

1) 80s teams were rad as fuck
2) KISS THE RINGS

if all proceeds as expected, should be a fun game at the cell tonight huh?

Fistpump w/ strained calf, likely DL-bound

If only Selig would wait until he's a few feet away from the batter's box to drop the suspension.

then Alex can announce his appeal as he's tapping the dirt out of his spikes.

will some teary kid at the visitors' entrance sniffle "Say it ain't so, Rod"?

it would be comeuppance for when he announced his new contract or opt-out or whatever it was during the 2007 BoSox WS. Bud would love to get him back for that.

andy needs sum more peds amirite

a-rod hitting 1.000, yankees getting hammered

still got the old magic

Research notes
Vernon Wells is starting at first base for the Yankees today. He has never played an inning at first base in his professional career (majors and minors.)

Andy Pettitte: allowed 7 runs in 2 2/3 IP vs White Sox. This is the 2nd time in the last 10 MLB seasons that Pettitte has allowed 7 runs in a regular-season start in which he got 8 outs or fewer. Other was July 1, 2007 against Athletics (8 runs in 1 2/3 IP)

it is pretty impressive that the yankees have given david adams 140 plate appearances

no wonder they've tried wells at first base

NEW YORK -- The boos were louder for Alex Rodriguez after his first at-bat than before.

In his return to Yankee Stadium for the first time since he appealed his 211-game for Major League Baseball violating the drug policy, Rodriguez heard a mixture of cheers and some boos when he batted for the first time in the bottom of the first inning on Friday night. A good number of fans stood and cheered for him.

With a man on second and two-out, Rodriguez struck out swinging against Rick Porcello to end the inning. He then heard resounding boos.

Three consecutive blown saves for number 42 -- the first time in his career.

@DannyKnoblerCBS
Before this weekend, Rivera had faced the Tigers 56 times (including postseason) and had allowed 2 HR. This weekend, 3 in 2 games.

a. soriano: four homers, 13 rbi in a game and a half

I don't think the Yankees have a realistic chance at this point, but I have to admit, I would love the chaos of A-Rod in the post-season.

maybe he'll get traded to the Pirates?!

paul o'neill, michael kay and kenny singleton are discussing kelly clarkson's 'since u been gone'

is there a naysayer?

(also I don't think you should call even a 66-yo man aging as well as KS is 'Kenny')

i also call charles p. pierce 'charlie'

kay thought 'since u been gone' was by someone else, o'neill correctly called kelly clarkson and later namedropped tone loc, singleton muttered something about the troggs

haha awesome

now w mark reynolds

freaking soriano went 4-5 today, three straight 3-hit games

#sss

just because it's unlikely to continue doesn't mean it didn't happen

i think george brett holds that record, at 6 straight, if memory serves

soriano's 2-3 with a homer and 4 RBI in the 4th inning...

He found the stuff in A-Rod's locker!

soriano 3-4

HR and a SB!

soriano 1-1 #sorianowatch

good to see sori smoking the ball these days.

SB #sorianowatch

2-2. Bizarre.

according to BBR in 93 games with the cubs, he had a WAR of 0.9. in 19 games with the yanks, his WAR is 1.5

lol a-rod

nu-morans: sox fan in the crowd with giant homemade poster : a-rod = a-looser

ichiro just got his 3,998th pro hit

and cano hit his 200th mlb homer

and ARod just ____ his ____th _____ ____ ___________!

think u meant chris stewart

he just ruined my afternoon.

girardi just brought in mo to get 2 outs in a 4 run game in the first game of a double header

just demonstrating his faith in joba

mark reynolds is starting at 2b tonight

wait what how

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/28/mark-reynolds-is-the-yankees-starting-second-baseman-tonight

welp, guess cano just got wally pipped

should have had soriano do it imo

or a-rod could have demonstrated his team spirit and volunteered -- he's got to be at least as mobile as reynolds

jeter could play both 2b and ss

lol c stewart nice

85 game score for yankees ace ivan nova

btw does anyone want to explain the discrepancy between cc's 2.0 fwar and -0.1 bwar

4 GB of the wild card now :)

+5 G over their pythag record, second only to seattle

scored 5 in the 8th vs Chisox; Harrelson sounds like he's on suicide watch.

2 games back :)

45 pitches by Nova in the 3rd

wd like to see Stankees take 3 of 4

a-rod and lyle overbay just pulled off a double-steal

girardi's reaction to soriano being picked off 2nd in the 9th = a+

ken singleton knows who 2 chainz is

if that's true it's only because cone told him

phil franchise

david huff

slow clap

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
If #Yankees lose, will be 1st time in AL history that a team scored 8 or more runs in 3 straight home games and lost all 3

wau

Both dugouts emptied briefly after the first inning, when Showalter angrily exchanged words with Girardi after the Yankees manager yelled at Baltimore third base coach Bobby Dickerson, accusing him of stealing signs. Showalter had to be restrained by home plate umpire Ed Hickox as he charged onto the field.

Girardi refused to go into specifics about what set him off, saying only, "The one thing that I've done, the whole time that I'm here, and everywhere I've been, is I'm going to protect our players at all lengths. That's what I'm going to do, and there was something that I saw and I'm just going to leave it at that."

Dickerson, who said he had never been berated like that by an opposing manager, said he heard Girardi chirping from the dugout from the start of bottom of the first. Girardi had moved from the end of the bench close to the plate to the end of the dugout nearest third base by the time the inning had ended.

"Immediately, like right when I got to third base," Dickerson said. "I didn't hear him at first. I heard something and as I looked at the dugout, he was right there yelling at me from the far end. And I was running off the field, something else was said. And after that it was over."

But not before a red-faced Showalter bolted from the first-base dugout, gesturing angrily and shouting at Girardi before being held at bay by Hickox. Girardi followed from the third-base dugout in calmer fashion as players from both teams spilled onto the field.

"It strikes a chord in me and I stand accused," Showalter said.

wtf

NYY likely to ink MLB's richest radio deal with WFAN

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/9/10/4715590/mlb-yankees-wfan-radio-deal-cbs

http://thebaseballcodes.com/2013/09/10/girardi-to-os-you-cant-hide-your-spying-eyes

that video of Showalter goin ape is crazy.

Brendan Ryan, 8th Yankee SS this year.

jeter to dl, rip

also, 53 players so far

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/40241/should-yankees-re-sign-robinson-cano

ZS: You're really good at parsing these $/WAR decisions (I'm clueless when it comes to "the market")--does this sound about right?

(The short version: worth risking a seven-year, $211 million deal.)

fitting the capn gets shut down on 9/11

Flair for the dramatic, even when injured.

sorry clemenza, just now seeing this! thanks for the compliment, but i'm no better at it than a lot of others here, and i do a pretty simple back of the envelope kind of thing.

the starting point is just how much each 1.0 WAR is worth in dollars. the rule of thumb used to be that $5 million/1 WAR was close to "fair", but i bet that's up to about $6 million now, so let's just go with that.

for the 7 year/$211 million deal to be "fair" (sorry, i can't help but use the annoying scare quotes for some reason), Cano would need to put up about 35 WAR over the period of the contract (211 million divided by 6 million/WAR). that's about 5 WAR/season, on average. so if cano puts up 5 WAR/season, on average, 7 years/$211 million would be fair.

cano's already 30, so i'm going to assume that he'll begin declining. when he's 37 at the end of the contract, he's probably not going to be putting up 5 WAR per year. so the question is, will he provide enough surplus value toward the beginning of the contract to balance out the weaker last years of the contract?

well, who knows. but one way to project, since we can assume he's probably past his peak, is to use the last 3 years as a baseline and then project a steadily declining WAR in the following years to simulate his aging.
if we assume that he'll end up with 6.2 fRAR in 2013 (per ZIPS rest of season projections), then his average fWAR over his past 3 seasons has been 6.4 WAR. Just to make things easier, let's adjust that to 6.5:

baseline (2011-2013 avg): 6.5 WAR

one method i've seen used in the past is to just assume that he'll lose 0.5 WAR every year. if that's the case, his contract looks like this:

baseline (2011-2013 avg): 6.5 WAR
2014: 6.0 WAR
2015: 5.5 WAR
2016: 5.0 WAR
2017: 4.5 WAR
2018: 4.0 WAR
2019: 3.5 WAR
2020: 3.0 WAR
2014-2020: 31.5 WAR

so even by that (really simplistic) method, he generates 31.5 WAR over the period of his contract, which is less than the 35 WAR he would need to hold up his side of a "fair" deal for 7 years/$211 million. so it's already a bad deal for the yankees.

but there are factors to consider that could tilt your opinion one way or the other. for example, maybe you watch cano play every day and you think he's going to decline faster than that simple -0.5 WAR assumption used above. if that's the case, it's going to be a pretty shitty contract when he puts up 1.0-2.0 WAR in his age 35-37 seasons while getting paid $30 million a year. (or on the flip side, maybe you think he's capable of stretching out his peak and he'll be putting up 7 WAR in 2016 or something). cano seems really durable, but there's always the possibility of injury as well.

but you could also factor in inflating salaries (especially with the wave of new tv contracts injecting even more $ into the game) and make a case that it's a decent deal for the yankees. what if the fair market price per WAR in 2014 was $6 million, but in 2020, at the end of cano's contract, it's $8 million?

fuck, time to bust out the spreadsheet:

http://i.imgur.com/I1GePcp.jpg

this shows the fair market value of WAR gradually rising from $6 million in 2014 to $8 million in 2020. i also entered in cano's contract, assuming he just gets $30 million even each year, and $31 million in the last, to add up to $211 over 7 years. the final column shows how much he would WAR he would need to generate each year to live up to his side of the deal. as the market value of WAR continues to increase, he needs to generate less value to be worth market value. in contrast to the earlier assumptions, in this scenario he only needs to generate about 30 WAR across the period of the contract for it to be a fair value.

so again, we come back to that important element that i'm lacking, which is day to day knowledge of cano's mad skillz, and an opinion of whether or not he's still at his peak or if his inevitable decline has already begun, and if so, how quickly he'll decline.

to sum up: i don't know

oops, i didn't read schoenfield's last paragraph, where he does his own simulation of cano's decline (he starts with 7.0 WAR in 2014, down to 2.5 WAR in 2020), and assumes $6.5 million/WAR as the fair market price. using those assumptions, cano needs 32.5 WAR over the period of the contract. but basically, same deal.

let's just defer to the comments on the article for advice:

Ismael Diaz · Operator at Evergreen Recycling Solutions
Yankees be stupid not to sign Cano they may not have A Rod n Jeter Grandy..Maybe Cano go to Boston n Pedroia move to 3rd base like A Rod did so he can play 2nd..lol

look, there's no way the yanks are letting cano walk

despite their luxury tax shenanigans this year, the yankees are rich enough that they don't need to be efficient. they can survive carl pavano and kei igawa and they'll survive a 'bad' cano contract too.

yup

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=30569961&topic_id=0

whoa, missed this. bunt double from cano beats the shift

CC getting shelled again

we pray for death on this day

I've never believed this 1 WAR = $5-6 M number, the math might work out that way for 3Y/40M, but for superstar contracts it doesn't seem to make sense. IOW, I don't see clubs starting bidding wars for 3-4 win players and 20M/Y.

To me, 7Y/150 or 160M seems fair market value for Cano, assuming he puts up 30 WAR during that time. I'm ignoring positional availability in my completely non-scientific, based on gut feeling calculation.

andy pettitte wants to spend more time with his family again

probly needs to do the Lord's work now that the Pope has moved left

I almost feel sorry for John Sterling this week, as ppl have been pointing out that he is old and blind.

Alex Rodriguez passed Lou Gehrig with his 24th career grand slam tonight at Yankee Stadium.

the greatest yankee

I had no idea he had that many slams. I think Manny had around 20 slams and I sort of thought he'd be the one to eventually break the record.

CC done for the year, hamstring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5iJR21J7QI

let's play a new game i like to call "what creepy cartoon characters does lars ulrich look like nowadays"

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/futurama/thumb/d/d7/Scammer_aliens.JPG/468px-Scammer_aliens.JPG

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1786351-mariano-rivera-bobblehead-night-a-disaster-as-yankees-never-receive-shipment

lol, my mom was at this game and said she waited in line from the 3rd inning through the 9th

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/hey-joe-girardi-let-rivera-play-center-field.html

I'm sure your mom is a nice lady, so I'll just lol. xp

yeah i mean...yeah

hope everyone is soaking in phil franchise's last outing in pinstripes

handily executed by the Indians

let's all go see Mo tomw night and sing "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey"

girardi sez he'll let mo play cf in houston

hope hes runnin up that hill like k8 bush

so robbie cano, who turns 31 next month, wants 10 years/$305m

Scott Boras says $100 million for Sinn-Soo Choo is low.

mariano's exit was kinda moving

10 years / *any number here* is ridiculous

why do baseball players do this? why do they want to live out the latter half of their 30s with rapidly decaying abilities, a disappointed and angry fanbase, a team that's not as good as it could be (because so much of the salary allocation is blown on one aging dude), while making tons of money, and- oh. i guess that's it

10 years / 300 might make sense for Trout. maybe. anyone else, especially a guy who is already 30? what a joke.

OTM. I hope Cano gets it.

yeah, no kidding!

via BP podcast FB group: If Rivera pitches 1 perfect out over weekend, his career WHIP will end at EXACTLY 1.000 (1284 IP, 998 H, 286 BB)

from that sweetspot post

What kind of sport essentially encourages tanking for 10 or more teams?

hm, ever watched the NBA?

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVN4lnXCEAAkIOF.jpg

Just going to mention this, I do realize how specious it is: Pettitte is the first pitcher ever with 15+ seasons not to post a losing record. No, I do not think he should be in the HOF. I was looking at his career box, and if you eliminate his three best years by WAR ('96/97/05), every other season is between 2.2-3.8. Every single one. Which is a) admirable consistency, and b) nowhere near a HOF career.

I have to say I felt good for Pettitte yesterday, getting your first CG win in seven years is a hell of a way to go out, even if was against an historically bad team (although even so, it carries some significance because it was against the team from his home state that he used to play for).

pettite is not a HOFer for me but it's a closer call than my gut told me

As someone pointed out, his career stats at the most basic level are comparable to Morris's:

Pettitte: 256-153, 3.85, 1.351 WHIP
Morris: 254-186, 3.90, 1.296 WHIP

Pettitte's better record attributable to his teams, his higher WHIP attributable to the era. Pettitte was better, but not by enough.

if pettitte had pitched in 2011, he gets to 2500 Ks + picks up maybe another dozen wins

still a juicer tho

girardi signs four-year deal with yanquis

john sterling is calling the kitten bowl

http://i.imgur.com/5HKipAj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5ZbJ8d8.jpg

tee hee