2013 Philadelphia Phillies: AARP Edition (big shout out to Morbius #1 fan)

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yay phillies

hahahahahahaaaaaa

http://espn.go.com/blog/spring-training/post/_/id/1165/roy-halladays-minor-league-adventure

And once again Saturday, after the sixth start of his puzzling spring, it remained impossible to say what kind of pitcher the great Roy Halladay can be anymore.

The results? They were nothing he'll tell his grandkids about someday. You can book that.

He faced 18 hitters. He retired seven of them. Seven.

He allowed three doubles, four singles, two walks and a hit batter. Another hitter reached when Halladay made an errant throw to first after fielding a bunt.

The Phillies announced afterward that he had pitched four "innings" and allowed three runs (two earned). But his pitching coach, Rich Dubee, pulled the plug on one of those innings with two outs and the bases loaded. And four of the remaining 11 outs came on a caught-stealing and three double-play balls.

So only seven hitters actually headed back to the bench without reaching base. Just one of them struck out -- looking, on a fourth-inning changeup, on Halladay's 76th pitch of the day.

More messy details: Halladay threw first-pitch strikes to only eight of 18 hitters. (“That,” muttered one bystander, after another ball one, “isn’t him.”) He induced three swings and misses out of 81 pitches – none on his fastball.

He touched 90 miles per hour on the radar gun once, on his seventh pitch of the day. But mostly, when he delivered his fastball, the guns lit with numbers ranging from 86 to 89. Aroldis Chapman, it wasn't.

$20m guaranteed this season for a #4 starter at best.
at least he won't hit his vesting options this year and we can sign a 37yr old has-been on a minor league incentive-laden contract. or he'll reluctantly retire.
he's done for.

6.75er 12.0ip 13hits 3hrs 7bb 10 so
FUCK

spring training! small sample size! everyone overreacting! writers trying to force stories! everyone shut up!

dammit, I missed the assCole's first lollipop of the season.

That was some lefty-on-lefty slashfic - hottttt.

cole is SLAW

Wacky line for Halladay: 9 Ks in 3.1 innings, but that's as far as he got because the Braves were kicking the stew out of him between strikeouts.

@ajcbraves
#Phillies Halladay has 11.57 ERA in f5 starts against #Braves since beginning of 2012 season, w/ 36 hits inc. eight homers in 22 innings

too little season for so much big talkin', methinks

I dunno, the Braves really were kicking the stew out of him.

of course they weren't, look at his K/9! /sabr

woo walk off double for frandsen!

http://www.the700level.com/images/1006579.jpg

he seems charming! (my first baseball practice of the season starts tmmrw. i'm on my synagogue team. wish me luck in not totally humiliating myself.)

what position do you play?

last time I played was in little league and I played second base

I'd feel a little pity for Halladay, but lol Phuckers

Knocked his ERA down to 11.05.

:( poor halladay

ben revere is on his willy mays hays ish - ground out/air out ratio is 19/1

http://enrico.blogs.com/GIFs/Dom.Brown.RyanHoward.gif

and here's the massive dom hr:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PzFRoNFlxd0/UWajfwuowiI/AAAAAAAAAnM/aDnMZZe3pCk/s500/brown.gif

D Battery Elected To Philadelphia Sports Hall Of Fame

lol

jeez, fab bellyflop catch by Revere just now

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=26305439

revere catch

phillies have gone 29 innings without drawing a walk -- and the last one was intentional

reflecting nitwit Amaro's philosophy?

make it 37

yikes

that's a lot of home runs, dawg

current poll on philly.com: who will end philly's playoff drought?

:(

i voted iggles but most popular vote was flyers

u couldn't vote for sixers bc no one thinks it'll be them

wtf? flyers made the playoffs last year

probably why they got the most votes

i mean they suck and i hate them, but that's hardly a drought

i think it's bc it's the first time in 21 years thatnone of the Philly’s top four major sports teams made the playoffs.

http://crashburnalley.com/2013/04/30/the-thing-people-dont-understand/

good post; almost makes me feel bad for philly's top four major sports teams not making the playoffs . . .

nah. and you can have the sixers

time to put doc in a shoebox and bury him in the backyard eh?

It's sad to see someone so great fall apart like this.

losing it worse than lincecum at this point. his K rate remains ok, batting average against wasn't really that bad going into today (.240), walk rate up slightly. but man, he's given up only one less homer this year than he did in all of '11 and he's already halfway to last year's total.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OHV6iAe4ccM/UYq-u9d_gRI/AAAAAAAAA0U/t_rFNhWN4zw/s500/delmon.gif

i love that halladay says he's been dealing w/shoulder discomfort since april 24 but they trotted him out there for two more starts. wtg phils, what a terrible organization.

yeah, maybe

welcome to philadelphia, carlos zambrano

"We got positive feedback from everybody who has interacted with him recently,'' Proefrock said. "We did our due diligence. It's just good business.

"We got a feel for his desire to come back and his sincerity about that, and what kind of condition he's put himself in. It's a minor league deal. We're not signing him to a $90 million deal like the Cubs did, but you still want to get a guy who's committed and is going to conduct himself appropriately. As far as we're concerned, that was satisfied."

they sound super confident

coley 1-6, awwwwwwwwww

lol hamels (1-8)

I haven't gone through Hamels' game log, but when I looked at his overall stats yesterday, 1-8 didn't seem right--they weren't that bad.

http://mlb.si.com/2013/05/27/cole-hamels-record-philadelphia-phillies/?sct=uk_wr_a2

7-3 seems overly optimistic--his ERA is almost 4.50, and you're bound to lose some quality starts. Maybe 6-4 or 6-5 would be more in line with everything else?

dom brown huh

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dYSZAJeKzbw/UanxSCnuN5I/AAAAAAAABFI/fv5KSYRx-Sg/s500/brownhrs.gif

cheaper than Ryan Howard, eh?

yeah, let's maybe not sign him to a $125M extension

grand slam walk-off hr for mayberry in the 11th!!!1

Wow, first player EVER to hit two homers in extra innings!

I think under old rules, you only got credit for a single if you hit one out w/ the winning run on third. (at least in deadball times)

damn dom brown is having a season - another HR

woo! .500!

(pedantry alert)

Mayberry was not the first player to hit two homers in extra innings:

Mayberry-- who did not start the game-- also homered in the bottom of the 10th to re-tie the game after Miami took the lead in the top half. No player in the majors had hit two extra-inning homers in the same game since Baltimore's Mike Young did so against the Angels on May 28, 1987. And Elias confirms he was just the sixth player ever to do that.

Mayberry also didn't start the game. Since RBI became official in 1920, no player had ever come off the bench to record 5+ RBI, with all of them coming in extra innings.

uh oh, Manuel has figured out his most expensive player

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/7/1/4484544/ryan-howard-phillies-platooned-charlie-manuel-manager

Hamels threw one bad pitch and ~~~lost~~~.

cool

veteran leadership from paps: ". . . if I'm going to have to put up with this year after year, then no, I don't want to be here. Why would you? Why would anybody?"

as long as he still looks the way he does i don't expect him to act like any more of a veteran than his dugout persona

i always find it funny when relievers go full bridezilla. it's like - you can't even pitch more than one inning, dude.

lol

We should do a poll: who is the biggest douche in MLB? Papelbon would be a strong contender imo

Phillies, Chase Utley talking about a 2-3 year extension

never change, ruben

so I will see Cliff Lee pitch Friday

...No I won't. Stiff neck.

So I heard Phils CEO Dave Montgomery this morning, here's what he said:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21414

And late pinch-hitting speaker at the banquet (which I didn't buy a ticket for) tomorrow, LARRY BOWA! Hoping to sneak in just for the speech, to hear some profanity.

ask Bowa how he feels about talking mad shit about Matt Kemp back in 2007

Good job by critical, outspoken closer.

lol hamels

eight scoreless, drives in the only philly run personally, no decision

only thus far, at any rate

I saw the last 3 outs in hotel bar, hilarious

what a moment, seriously

sadpapelbone.mp3

Second to only James Russell in BLSVs.

Pre-game "Wall of Fame" ceremony for Curt Schilling! Bringing some dough to invest in his next company.

omg, ex-Senator Jiim Bunning showed up. Schmidt and Carlton too, mercifully. Kruk did a nice Jackie Gleason take when it was his turn to speak.

love this fucking team's free fall

Let's get younger through the manager!

Musta been that gif of Charlie's dentures slipping that did it.

CM says he did not resign. Amaro didn't want him to "go through" the last 6 weeks, that Sandberg was going to manage next year was an open secret.

I'm glad I saw Charlie get tossed in the ninth 2 weeks ago at CBP, and got to yell "Sit down and shut up" one last time.

The team informed Manuel that it would not renew his contract and a decision was made to part ways now rather than finish the season. Manuel made it clear that he didn't resign.

in the visitors dugout at pawtucket's mccoy stadium, jim riggleman smiles grimly

I wonder what the avg timespan is for a World Series-winning manager to get canned? Obv Billy Martin was quick after '78, but that was a psychotic unique situation. Johnny Keane and Dick Williams both quit right after winning the WS.

he stuck around longer w/ the Phils than Johnson did w/ the Mets ... so ixnay on the smug gloating.

cito gaston fired more quickly also (and he won two)

Mayo Smith won in '68 with the Tigers, got fired after the '70 season...to make room for Billy Martin. Much faster than Manuel, Johnson, or Gaston.

Eisbaer still the same, 20 years of losin' comin up just for you

I didn't even mention Manuel in the question, dick.

http://the700level.com/top-posts/photo-this-shot-of-charlie-manuel-leaving-citizens-bank-park-is-really-sad/attachment/charlie-manuel-4/

He didn't keep a lot of things in his office, did he?

he's got wawa, shd quit complaining

Roy Halladay vs Arizona: 6 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K

Looks like there's some life left in the tank.

As the saying goes

Good news--can't think of anybody I'd more want to see turn it around.

Ryno gets a 3-year deal, and hey they're now tied for 3rd w/ Mets

@ToddZolecki
Roy Halladay leaves the game after three batters. Sweat dripping off his face during the first batter he faced. Topped out at 83 mph.

No 2014 thread yet!

Burnett looks comfortable enough pitching with the hernia, but swinging the bat and running are clearly painful.

scoop em up!

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2014/5/1/5671366/phillies-seat-discounting-begins-in-earnest

releasing Howard after the season?

http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/ryan-howard-sits-future-team-serious-question

more on the horror: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

gee who could have seen this one coming

http://i.imgur.com/WAGV2wX.jpg

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class

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/9/14/6149001/jonathan-papelbon-blows-lead-gets-ejected-for-crotch-grabbing-at-fans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxinjJsIMAAurlT.jpg

phillies extend jerome williams (6.71 era last year, dfa'd by the astros) for one year at $2.5m

phillies extend grady sizemore (rip) for one year at $2m

and amaro coming back again

when's the soonest we could compete again? 2018? 19?

i mean that's not a ton of money and williams was actually weirdly good for the phillies when they picked him up late in the season, but ffs literally no other team would give those guys big league contracts

pat gillick explicitly admitted today that the phillies won't contend in 2015-2016. which is true, tbf

they're gonna have to wait until the end of the howard contract i guess :/

they're gonna have to wait until the end of the amaro contract ^_^

i think amaro will be gone first

like what's going to happen? he's going to turn things around this next year?

what will it take to get him canned? they've gone downhill every year since he took over, which isn't necessarily his fault, but he's only aided the process. no one (except j-paps) has any expectations of the team anymore, so it's not like ppl will be let down by a fourth- (okay, fifth-) place finish next year.

and if his failure to trade byrd/papelbon/cliff/hamels/anyone to shore up a terrible farm system hasn't gotten him fired yet, then what's left?

Amaro revolution: "use the whole field, make quality outs, bunt for hits"

http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/ruben-amaro-demands-changes-philadelphia-phillies-offensive-approach

I'm sure Howard is going to get right on that.

apparently the phillies revoked the press credentials of their SB nation site, the good phight
https://twitter.com/lizroscher/status/580174417709260801

seems weird & petty, although idk how other teams treat their respective fansites - do many of them not offer access to their bloggers?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBH65AOXEAArHid.jpg

well i certainly need to attend a few games in Mets gear

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/31/the-phillies-will-sell-hard-liquor-at-citizens-bank-park-this-year/

ooo just what philly fans need

also, fun with Larry Bowa's pulsing jugular

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2015/3/30/8315029/phillies-pirates-find-something-to-brawl-over-in-10-0-exhibition-game

going to opening day today :D

This cannot be emphasized enough: The Phillies Opening Day center fielder will be a second baseman who’s never played above double-A.
— Corinne (@Ut26) March 31, 2015

exciting!

FRANCOEUR

Oh boy this should be some season!

at the very least we know it will be a season

rosenthal's column on why the phils need to lower their expectations if the red sox is where they want hamels to go, drawing the expected twitter hate from the ijit parade http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/philadelphia-phillies-boston-red-sox-cole-hamels-trade-040915

like the sox farm system was just named #1 in baseball by baseball america, they have really valuable prospects who are just not as valuable as swihart or castillo or owens that they'd prob give up - deven marrero, sean coyle, garin cecchini, rodriguez. in terms of major leaguers i'm sure the sox wouldn't want to lose holt's utility value but if push came to shove they could and it'd be fine.

shit, if allen craig could figure out how to hit again and develop actual trade value they'd prob ditch him in a heartbeat given how crowded that outfield is

http://www.theonion.com/articles/phillies-concession-stand-offering-plastic-helmets,38403

ben revere threw someone out at home!

odubel!

Over their last 162 games

#Phillies Ryan Howard
24 HR & .377 SLG

#WhiteSox Adam Eaton
2 HR & .379 SLG

#Marlins Dee Gordon
2 HR & .384 SLG

batting Francoeur cleanup two games in a row lolz

The loathing in this blog account of last night's game is a joy forever:

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2015/4/16/8436525/ryan-howard-hits-seventh-in-phillies

Over their last 162 games

#Phillies Ryan Howard
24 HR & .377 SLG

#WhiteSox Adam Eaton
2 HR & .379 SLG

#Marlins Dee Gordon
2 HR & .384 SLG

where is Frenchy in that list?

@keithlaw
keithlaw retweeted David M.
Francoeur: 7 fWAR in first 2.5 seasons. -1.1 fWAR in 7 seasons since.

@ToddZolecki
According to @baseball_ref, Chase Utley's .099 average is lowest among qualified hitters through team's first 30 games since 1914.

chase utley, playing bball not seen for nigh on one hundred years

Jerome Williams is pitching today. Here's a classic Jerome Williams moment:

"I just told Righetti one day. I'm doing a bucket, and I'm like Rags, we need to talk about something. He's like, 'What?' Ummmm. What's my name? He's like, 'Jeremy.' Ummmm. No. It's not, actually. It's actually Jerome. He's like, 'so for a couple years I've been calling you Jeremy and it's not even your name? Why didn't you correct me?' I told him the same: I was scared. 'What were you scared about?' I don't know. And he slapped me."

Cody Asche called up, RIP Grady Sizemore

@based_ball
2015 Phillies: 73 wRC+
career Mike Hampton: 72 wRC+

https://twitter.com/NihilistAmaro

7-25 on the road

things are becoming very very dark indeed

i guess de fratus didn't throw at anyone tonight -- almost like a legit team

https://i.imgur.com/3UVKmwO.jpg

highlight of the season so far

ryno out

Sez the successor to CHARLIE MANUEL:

"It is not an easy decision. In a lot of ways, I'm old-school."

someone on the twitter wagered that macphail will hire gardy. and as judge smails once said, the world needs ditch-diggers too

not that any manager could salvage these phillies, but sandberg and his intensity seemed like a particularly poor match for a failing veteran team

"What part of ERP don't you understand?!"

Matt Sussman:
"Sounds like this team's gonna have much more MacPhail and much less EpicPhail!"

Phillies starting pitchers have combined to go 2-20 with a 6.09 ERA over the team’s last 34 games.

Ruben Amaro told the press that Chase Utley has lost his starting job before he told Utley. The Phillies should let Utley be the one who tells Amaro he’s fired.

- Matthew Kory, BP

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLDN-OVWsAA9cEq.jpg

at last a no-brainer reason to hate the Nationals

lol

i'm glad we paid papelbon so much money to be an all star closer for a loser team

Brisbee on Utley for the HOF

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2015/8/20/9183423/chase-utley-phillies-hall-of-fame

ruben out

so the analytics temp goes perm now?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COjffleUsAAHzM9.jpg

xp i mean, let's not get ahead of ourselves

who takes over as gm punching bag now?

https://i.imgur.com/anYAMtw.jpg

there's the charlie morton i remember

Stumpf!

jesus this team is bad

and doesn't know the infield-fly rule

stumpf got stumpfed for 80 games

also

@MattGelb
Vince Velasquez first-inning pitches by velocity: 95, 95, 93, 95, 96, 95, 95, 95, 96, 95, 95, 96, 96, 97, 95, 96. He struck out the side.

i watched the game last night - eickhoff threw 9 so, 7 innings, no runs. honestly i'm feeling kinda hopeful about this team!

lol

stumpf must be related to the fraudulent Cobb biographer

and a howard homer as i write that :p

is this his last year w/ the club?

Speaking of Vince V ... I love these two Spangenberg at-bats:

https://twitter.com/based_ball/status/720670795031162880

i have a mole in the Philths analytics dept who's gonna recommend they sign Howard for 6 more years at Votto money

@MattGelb
For the "Ask The Phillies" scoreboard segment, players were asked what their homepage is. Vince Velasquez said "AOL."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgBglqGVAAEn0xQ.jpg

first changeup of the game

does spangenberg owe him money or something, geez

velasquez, wow

9 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 16 K

16 K holy shit

97 game score

(against the padres tho)

@based_ball
the 2016 Phillies rotation is on pace to surpass its 2015 WAR next Saturday

the horror

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28941

Velasquez's big game and Signature Significance:

http://www.billjamesonline.com/indicative_impressions/

So, what does this all indicate? I do think the list of pitchers having games like this bodes well for Velasquez. While there are a handful of starters mentioned that may not fit everyone’s description of a quality pitcher, it’s still full of players who went on to fine careers. Not 100% of them, of course, and certainly injuries derailed a few, but it’s a pretty compelling list.

get out yr brooms

n-o-l-a nola

hi5 Mordy

first ryan howard walkoff hr since 2014! i was watching the draft and switched over just in time to watch it :p

pieceee

now back to reading Ball Four

is it too early to rehabilitate ruben

6 straight!

i have perfect timing - every time i turn on the game howard hits a hr

pieceee

6 shutouts this year

now in 2nd place in the East with a -25 run differential

i will enjoy the correction

finally finished the bouton book last night - it's a super quick read but it took until my kindle melted down for me to make the time to wrap it up. he mentions off-handedly an SI story about the Dalton Gang that i had never seen before but is funny: http://www.si.com/vault/1960/06/13/637793/the-dalton-gang-rides-again

-28 DIFF. Second most wins in the NL.

so you know it's an illusion, rather like Clinton's progressivism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJVewWbeBiY

under .500 ;_;

I had a dream last night that I caught an Odubel Herrera hit HR in my bare hands and it didn't hurt at all.

Jayson Stark reports that Carlos Ruiz and Ryan Howard have cleared waivers

BP hit List:

Phillies ERA by month:
April: 3.79
May: 3.92
June: 5.34
July: 4.12
August: 5.91
September: the numerical equivalent for “frowny face.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBqsn2QWAAE3-fG.jpg

a hall-of-fame apology from mike schmidt

Old Baseball Player fail

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/06/06/mike-schmidt-odubel-herrera-philadelphia-phillies

i'm guessing Mike goes to the SPEAK ENGLISH cheesesteak place

more like mike shit

hoskins looks pretty good so far

just hit another hr off the cubs

as pointed out on the EW podcast the other day, 8 of the ten pitchers he's victimized kinda stink.

you fuckin kidding me

ties the consecutive games record

8 of the ten pitchers he's victimized kinda stink

this may be true . . . but i don't see anyone else doing it

sorry, it wasn't his eighth consecutive game. i was checking his game log and didn't notice one of those days was a doubleheader. still, 8 of his last 9.

future footnote

https://deadspin.com/rhys-hoskins-is-off-to-one-of-the-greatest-starts-to-a-1798496048

In just 18 games he already has 1.2 WAR, or 8 percent of Ryan Howard’s career total (14.9) over 1,572 games.

Colin: The only thing with Hoskins that is really out of whack is his HR/FB, which currently stands at 40%. It’s not unreasonable to think he’ll be close to 20% given his power and the park he plays in. That’s still like 50 HR. Pretty good, I say!

Dave Cameron: Well, yeah, no one can really keep hitting 85% of their XBH as HRs. Every well struck ball he’s hit has left the yard, basically. That’s not going to last.

damn, Hoskins

up to 18 HR (and 26 walks!) in 34 games

in 115 triple-a games this year he had 75 K and 64 BB

presumably the league will figure him out as it did judge, but he's for real

Ryan Howard's total bWAR over the ten-year period following his MVP award: 6.3

Hoskins' this year (before today): 2.2

Rhys Lightning

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2017/09/15/images/mlbf_1833341883_th_43.jpg

Pivetta Video