ayo lets go phillies get me a fukkin tastykake

shit was heinous. those were some real boos though for King Bush...

did u just pick a thread @ random? xp

naw well i was pretty proud of this thread and felt it needed more attn, also there isn't a proper thread for the nats/braves/opening day so waleva imo

joe morgan's suckin GWB off, "that was some HIGH HEAT!"

lol @ BBTN joba skit

http://creative.myspace.com/Client/Fx/SunnyPhilly/Downloads/Wallpapers/sunny_wall01_1280x1024.jpg

kearnz:

* Nicknamed Austin Powers after the Mike Myers character, he also goes by "Ears" and "Darth Kearns".

* His current warm-up song is "I Still Will Kill" by 50 Cent.

jesus mccann is slow as hell, even for a catcher, that should've been an easy double

A faster catcher would've made it close, but most guys would've been meat on a ball hit that hard.

Prez Bush in the booth coming soon!

Wait until they bring up 9/11 (again).

God please get the 3rd out RIGHT NOW.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

philz have 7 walks, 4 errors + 1 WP thru 2.1 innings lolololololololol

MOTOWN PHILLY
BOYZ II MEN
ABC
COOLEYHIGHHARMONY

http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/paws/archives/JenChaseUtleyPuppies.gif

Utley w/adorable puppies, homers in five straight.

*swoon*

damn, is that piece of ass his old lady?

this is my best thread title ever btw

ayo manuel when your ace is around 100+ pitches in the 8th inning of a mid-April game and he allowed the tying run on base and Prince Fielder's coming up TAKE HIS ASS OUT BEFORE HE GIVES UP THE LEAD AND THROWS 121 PITCHES YOU SENILE OLD FUCK

</fantasy owner>

also get me a fukkin tastykake

Eskin needs to get up his ass again.

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/e823c5c0-0a2d-4248-b6ac-7fd834c5b4e1.jpg

Another day, another 10 runs. These guys are a little bit scary.

Bartolo's hoping Citizens Bank Park will turn back into Margaritaville.

boy, they just showed colon's at bats on bbtn...UGH-LEEEEE!!!

John Perrotto in BP last week:

Dallas Green turns 73 next week, but that doesn't mean the Phillies' senior advisor to the general manager is mellowing. In fact, Green was as candid as ever when asked about Phillies shortstop Jimmy Rollins by the Bucks County Courier Times' Randy Miller recently. "I think we're all disappointed in Jimmy's reaction to what's going on," said Green, who managed the Phillies to the only World Series title in franchise history in 1980. "His body language is just brutal right now. The body language doesn't say that 'I'm busting my ass' right now.'"

Rollins has a .276 EqA and 23.8 VORP a year after being voted the NL's Most Valuable Player. Rollins was removed from a June 5 game against the Reds by manager Charlie Manuel for not hustling, and then benched for a key game against the Mets last Thursday after arriving late to Shea Stadium and saying he had been stuck in New York traffic. "Jimmy doesn't sense, I don't think, that [his teammates] are starting to get upset with him," Green said. Green also stated that he would not hesitate to share his feelings with Rollins the next time their paths cross. "Jimmy and I have a pretty good relationship," Green said. "I'll tell him when I think he's done right and I'll tell him when I think he's done wrong. He's done wrong. He's done wrong for the team, he's done wrong for himself, and he's done wrong for Charlie."

Swept in 4 by LA for the first time in 46 years!

GO CUBS GO

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Matt Stairs superfan #1

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ryan howard has only struck out 5 times in his last 10 games, allowing mark reynolds to take the lead in Ks. (191 in 509 AB vs 190 in 580 AB)

6. Posted by Isawa Cody Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:16 pm EDT Report Abuse

.248 with 196 strikeouts is true, but if he is hitting a 3 run homer to take the lead every three at bats instead of a single I think that counts for something. In this day and age of sabremetrics, raw numbers aren't the only things that matter. As this article states hes far and away the best clutch hitter (with both runners in scoring position, and in the 7th inning and later). If the Phils win the division he is the reason. Pujols team is out of contention. Explain to me who is more valuable to their team...

Isawa, I speak for nerdilingers everywhere when I say to no one in particular, please shut the fuck up.

Howard's going to win the MVP isn't he?

yeah i think he just might :-\

fukkers clinch

cant wait till they get cornholed by the dodgers

yay phillies!

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btw lol Adam Eaton

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eaton-and-chen

lol thread title for the ages

whither Hamels' elbow!?

Hamels elbow is fine but honestly why do you think you're above trolling and then turn into a big baby when the citibank financial september swoon mets threads get trolled?

just sayin

real talk

I see, posting on the enemy thread is trolling. BETTER STICK TO YOUR HOME TEAM THEN

OH I FORGOT YOU'RE ABOVE BEING A REAL FAN, EH

Phillies fans are worse than Red Sox fans if Keith Law chats are any indication.

cubs fans are the worst

No way. Not even in the top 5.

haven't experienced red sox fans but in my experience cubs fans are obnoxious and cocky except obv they havent won anything since 1900 whatever

yankees and phillies fans are the worst in my experience.
followed by Canucks fans.

xpost

Which makes them a million times more charming automatically than Yankees fans or Red Sox fans or Phillies fans.

xpost

no way, cubs fans are just pessimistic homers like myself who won't believe anything will go our way until the final out in our favor in the last game of the world series. teams with worse fans: angels, dodgers, yankees, red sox, phillies, cards

My personal hatred for Angels fans rounds out my top 4. I guess I can concede that Cubs fans might be fifth.

What's so bad about Dodgers or Cards fans?

so basically popular teams and winning teams have the worst fans.

HMMMMMM.....

Naw Philadelphia and Boston and New York fans are the worst regardless of sport. Those towns are fill with jerks.

that's probably otm

Los Angeles would be up there too, but lack of a football team kind of humbles them IMO.

dodgers have no fans except asians and alyssa milano.

Probably more Brooklyn Dodger fans than LA Dodger fans even to this day.

i don't know abt that, when i went to a dodgers/angels interleague at the ravine ppl were rowdy and fun.

sports stadia are filled with jerks.

Yes, the annual NYC SABR meeting will not join the expansion era until the Brooklyn Dodger fans die.

"sports stadia are filled with jerks."

Some stadia are more filled than others.

and Shasta, how do you know Hamels' elbow is fine, you Phillie flack?

Noonan (Philly, PA): Hamels' elbow - serious cause for concern, or expected wear and tear after throwing so many innings last year? Or, both?

SportsNation Keith Law: (1:21 PM ET ) Both. Before last year I think you could comfortably have called him "injury-prone." I wonder if 2008 will end up being this outlier year for him where he was healthy and awesome for an entire season, but then reverted to his prior form of being hurt ... and awesome.

I have nothing to say about the phillies, but this thread title gave me a sudden strong hankering for some krimpets

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Butterscotch_Krimpets.jpg

so creamy so spongey nom nom nom

Phils rule out Hamels for opener:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=4028523

awesome

Dave (my cube): Should I be concerned about the health of Cole Hamels?

SportsNation Keith Law: (1:17 PM ET ) Yes.

I can't wait until a Met gets injured so you can get all butthurt and throw a fantastic tantrum when I post something far less trolly on the mets thread.

Daaaamn, you sensitive.

I bet it won't be far less trolly.

far less trolly then yr "Mets shit the bed" prediction?

can we plz go back to being respectful adversaries, SS? I'm not happy with things as they are.

lol @ these brewers

also:

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2009-04-19

Philadelphia Phillies' Raul Ibanez can't make the catch on an RBI-triple hit by San Diego Padres' Edgar V. Gonzalez in the third inning of a baseball game Sunday, April 19, 2009, in Philadelphia.

IT BEGINS

"Under a sliding Ibanez."

Tremendous effort on that solid triple.

jesus fucking christ

jamie moyer is on PTI rn, and i seriously thought it was some grizzled 60-year old 3rd base coach or something , until i noticed his name on the marquee.

2009-04-19

Philadelphia Phillies' Raul Ibanez can't make the catch on an RBI-triple hit by San Diego Padres' Edgar V. Gonzalez in the third inning of a baseball game Sunday, April 19, 2009, in Philadelphia.

IT BEGINS

― macarooni (omar little), Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:00 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

umm

http://media.philly.com/images/050809-ozark-600.jpg

first harry kalas, now danny ozark. RIP

All negroes look alike on FAX Saturday Baseball

lol srsly - the guy they originally showed was wearing a panama baseball jersey it appeared (?)

yeah, from the WBC.

I remember old Mayberry, and I thought he looked way different...

Raul's Nats/other teams split is amusing.

i have to admit Antonio Bastardo is a great name.

it is! sort of want to add him to my fantasy team for the name alone!

The Phillies' recent success can be traced to more consistent starting pitching, a string that began after right-hander Brett Myers was sidelined to likely season-ending hip surgery. In the 10 games since Myers' last start, Phillies starters are 8-0 with a 2.66 ERA, and in the last eight games, they're 6-0 with a 1.70 ERA.

A J.A. gonna crapp out on me

what happened to all the Ibanez h8rz?

they are sitting in their parents' basements suggesting that he's a juicer

lol at the J's pwning Madson twice in the same series!

13-20 at home!

(Filthydelphians as that 26th man)

Is Rollins out of options?

http://www.david-hinkle.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/usestairsincaseofemergency.jpg

that's a horrible idea

13-20 at home!

― Dr Morbius, Friday, June 19, 2009 11:20 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is amazing. Now 13-22. The Nationals are 13-25 at home as well. WTF

Why is nats being 12 undet @ home weird? Love the phils home unis btw

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/shanevic.jpg

It's done then

oh man, i thought you were talking about Halladay.

when you're taking the sloppy fifths after the Mets, you just can't get too excited.

Good luck against the AL All Stars tonight Phillies.

within the next 4 hours ryan braun is going to go to the hospital with the stomach flu and jayson werth is going to replace him in the starting lineup

Lincecum gets a mysterious migraine and is replaced by Jamie Moyer.

A million for Pedro? Doesnt seem like too much of a risk...

he was asking 5mil at the start of the season, that's why it's taken so long for him to get picked up

I was shocked to see that JA Happ is the only Philly starter with a decent ERA+. Not sure how much help Pedro is going to be...

he will give their DL the name cache it needs:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Signed_and_sealed_Martinez_placed_on_DL.html

Late for the conference! Wake up, Pedro!

ibanez starting the second half decently

jeeez moyer really has florida's number

embarrassing

i guess he's 13-2 career now

goddamn these guys have the best unis in the league, hands down

damn cliff lee is this year's randy johnson/cc sabathia (lefty starter has an "off" first half with an AL squad, immediately dominates the NL upon trade). today: complete game, 2 hits, 1 R (unearned), 11 K, no walks.

small sample set be damned, a .82 ERA and .72 WHIP over four starts is pretty sweet, not to mention 6 walks against 34 strikeouts.

make that a 0.68 ERA (his WHIP skyrocketed to 0.75)

MVP candidate Ryan Howard hit two home runs and drove in five more runs ( / morbsbait)

$5

Jeff (Princeton): Say some good things about Ryan Howard's baseball playing ability.

Joe Sheehan: He's probably the best left-handed hitter against right-handed pitchers in MLB. He's disciplined, he has plate coverage, and he can go line-to-line. I'm not sure I wouldn't take him over Pujols with a righty on the mound.

pedro went 7 innings today, 5 hits, 1 ER, 0 BB, 9 Ks

the Tastykake Poll

relevant to my interests

Moyer may be losing his argument on staying in the rotation

maybe Madson can't close, either!

130 pitches for pedro....

The Arbitrariness of Raul

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1390

Rodeojones (Nj): Is 2009 going to eclipse 1964 as the worst year in Phillies history?

Steven Goldman: The odds are still against it, but the Braves are sure making things interesting, aren't they? The Phillies tragedy quotient is equivalent to how much more rope they give Lidge... Doesn't seem like they're prepared to give him much more, but he keeps turning up anyway.

2009 officially not the worst year in Phillies history.

Neyer:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/1271/explaining-brad-lidge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rRfVcay9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_klg6mfEYEg

Howard extended 5/125.

Or:

Howard extended 5/125.

Keith Law
A bad deal for Philly?
"This is one of the worst extension of its kind -- it's an overpay in both years and dollars. Howard is one of the last guys in the middle of the lineup I'd give that kind of money, too. He's 30, has a bad body, is not a good defender, and has struggled to make contact to versus lefties -- he's gone backwards in that area over the past couple of years. If you were locking him up through age 31, it's not so bad. How happy are if you're Albert Pujols? If Howard is worth $25 million, Pujols is worth $50 million a year."

wow that's a bad contract

Beyond the Boxscore has analysed the deal and reckon that if a healthy, 700 AB/year Howard plays to his projections, the Phillies have overspent by $49m.

they can always just trade him to st louis for pujols

Tex Premium Lager (NJ)
Hindsight Phillies GM action: Extend Lee at market rate for 4 years, or sign the Howard extension?

Rob Neyer (12:34 PM)
Look, here's the biggest problem with the Howard deal ... it was, at this moment, utterly unnecessary. He was already under contract through 2011. What have the Phillies *possibly* gained by adding five years to that now? Cliff Lee is a separate issue.

Howard's b-ref comps

1. Richie Sexson (918)
2. Cecil Fielder (893)
3. Mo Vaughn (891)
4. Willie McCovey (891)
5. David Ortiz (890)
6. Tony Clark (890)
7. Mark McGwire (889)
8. Carlos Delgado (889)
9. Fred McGriff (885)
10. Norm Cash (876)

All those guys were more or less finished as impact players by their mid-30's (and half of them were washed up and out of baseball by that age). Nice one Phillies!

How silly does Halladay feel right now? He willingly agreed to an extension that will end when he's the same age as Howard will be at the end of his new contract -- and he'll be making about half of what Howard makes per year. He obviously could have held them up for so much more money (especially since Lee had already been traded, so he knew they wouldn't be competing against each other for superstar pitcher money with the same team), and not least because he won't be sucking in four years.

Keep poundin' the corner.

I wasn't thrilled Halladay took bitch money but am loving how he gets to see what he left on the table diverted to Mo Vaughn Jr.

meh, i'd rather have Howard then Teixiera IMHO. gl2u w/ that fwiw

one thing that kinda bugs is why on earth folx are all ZMGRFLMAOWTF @ howard's contract when Teixiera's is about the same (~90%), 3 years longgggger and Teix is just as old and not as good (IMHO).

is it because the phils aren't the yanx and people are used to the yanx throwing crazy money around like it ain't no thang for most of the past decade with precious little to show for it?

― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:32 PM (0 seconds ago)

we don't need no crossposting w/in ILBB, genius

Ryan Madson kicked a chair in frustration after he blew a save in the 10th inning on Wednesday in San Francisco.

The chair won.

Madson broke his right big toe and the Phillies placed him on the 15-day disabled list Friday just as they activated right-hander Brad Lidge, who had been on the DL since the season started. The Phillies recalled left-hander Antonio Bastardo from Triple-A Lehigh Valley to take Madson's place on the 25-man roster.
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People always talk about 'closer mentality' which I dismiss as bullshit but Madson seems to prove that theory right time after time. His stuff is nasty and when hes a set up guy hes great. Seems like he blows saves on the regular tho.. Dont get it.

When Moyer retires and there's no active player left who's older than I am, I'm going to be a little sad.

i wouldn't worry. Moyer will pitch until he's dead.

um. ok maybe after that you can worry.

*buries him under the mound*

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__53/ept_sports_mlb_experts-884660126-1272955782.jpg?ymHeVFDDOXzOlO9q

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/19456973

hahaha

don't tase me ayo

Posted by Mark Tue May 04, 2010 5:41 am EDT

The kid running around was a liberal arts major

lol @ espn tryin to make a huge deal of this when everyone is p. much like, "yeah, dude deserved to get tased"

looks like he pissed himself

hey, I'm shocked to learn the Philly police commish is a total pig.

another guy ran on the field tonight & totally derailed hamels' start

yadier molina?

hahah

nah but a fan ran onto the field and hamels went friese double -> yadi double -> pulled from the game

the fallacy of the inevitable idiot fan

i fucking love Philly. a fan runs onto the field and gets tazered & humiliated. instead of discouraging this from happening again, another Philadelphian-ite-whatever does it the next day. simply amazing.

ayo that's how we do

so dude tonite didn't get tased?

imo you gotta go with a "you WILL get tased" policy

what if it was all orchestrated by citizens bank

Get Tased Night at Citizens Bank Park

tonight i mean -- they had a security guard's brother run out just so they wouldn't tase him

Get Tased Night at Citizens Bank Park

i would drive down for this.

actually - i *will* be heading down at some point this summer to see Doc pitch.

The 34-year-old man Tuesday gave himself up without incident, was booed by the sellout crowd and charged with defiant trespass, disorderly conduct and narcotics possession.

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__54/ept_sports_mlb_experts-563393377-1273046077.jpg?ym9grFDDfwS2JecM

dude is on the juice. his on field antics should get an asterisk.

get me a fukkin tazeykake

h aha!

he looks like a juggalo w/o facepaint

hes DJ THOROBRED & he tweeted it before he did it

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In the Phillies' 7-2 victory over the Cardinals on Thursday, Chase Utley was caught stealing for the first time since September 2, 2008.

old man moyer just 2-hit the braves apparently

braves are shameful

first, second guy looks like a Jugglao afterparty DJ sans paint

second,

another guy ran on the field tonight & totally derailed hamels' start

― the rural führer (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, May 4, 2010 9:31 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yadier molina?

― johnny crunch, Tuesday, May 4, 2010 9:35 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

so good COMEDY = TIMNG

first, second guy looks like a Jugglao afterparty DJ sans paint

he looks like a juggalo w/o facepaint

― World B. FAP (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, May 5, 2010 4:01 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

must have been a subliminal

he also could be a mykanos trance dj w/ no concept of the greek economy

Jugglmao

I didn't realize Moyer is about to break Robin Roberts' career gopherball record.

http://i40.tinypic.com/15728lt.jpg

lol

“She'll get over it.”

- RF Jayson Werth, on whether his mother would be disappointed that he didn't use the pink Mother's Day bat the rest of his teammates took to the plate May 9.

from yahoo's Phillys page!

The Rockies lodged a complaint with MLB after Monday's game, in which Phillies bullpen coach Mick Billmeyer was seen peering through binoculars at home plate while the Phillies batted in the second inning, and Shane Victorino was spotted on the bullpen phone in the dugout. The Phillies claim Billmeyer was checking out their own catcher, an excuse that doesn't hold water because, well, the Phillies were at bat.

The Rockies are the second team in little more than a week to make this accusation, as the Mets apparently did the same after Johan Santana gave up 10 runs to them earlier this month.

I remember the Dodgers got chippy with Victorino a year or so ago for doing the same thing..

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Rockies-complain-Phillies-stole-signs-MLB-issues-warning-051110

powder blue throwbacks are dope as hell

yes!

Still the Phillies, though.

132 pitches by roy 2nite

not gonna get to 35 wins at this rate..

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morbs trolling all the phils fans that post here

http://www.realclearsports.com/blognetwork/philadelphia_sports_scene/Roy1.jpg

a thing of beauty, last night's game was.

let's hope that Halladay doesn't turn into a half-senile right-wing crackpot politician fifty years from now (which is what happened to Jim Bunning).

totally half-senile

fyp

don't even joke about that. seriously guys.

Really

Halladay should be a guest speaker at the G20 summit

yay Phils back to gettin shut out

Werth's pre-AB music should be "F*!#in' Up"

I hate the name of this thread so much I came to SB whoever made it, but it's cankles so there's no point.

Looks something like 13 runs in the last 12 games...?

have been outscored 50-14 since 5/21

i think i read somewhere where they had the most-imbalanced schedule in terms of front-loading road games and spending the majority of the second half at home... could it be road-weariness?

they even get an extra home series when toronto plays a 'home' series in cbp

that is some serious bs, btw.

Bottom 1st: Boston
- M. Scutaro walked
- D. Pedroia grounded into fielder's choice, M. Scutaro out at second
- V. Martinez doubled to deep center, D. Pedroia scored
- D. Ortiz doubled to left, V. Martinez scored
- A. Beltre doubled to shallow left, D. Ortiz scored
- M. Lowell homered to left, A. Beltre scored
- B. Hall struck out looking
- M. Cameron singled to shallow center
- D. McDonald flied out to shallow right

5 runs, 5 hits, 0 errors
Philadelphia 0, Boston 5

Bottom 2nd: Boston
- M. Scutaro singled to shallow left
- D. Pedroia doubled to left center, M. Scutaro scored
- V. Martinez doubled to left center, D. Pedroia scored
- D. Ortiz doubled to left, V. Martinez scored
- D. Herndon relieved J. Moyer

(9 Runs charged to Moyer in 1.0 IP)

vis David Vincent of SABR:

Most Individual Batters Hitting Homers off Pitcher

321 Jamie Moyer
279 Randy Johnson
273 Frank Tanana
268 Fergie Jenkins
262 Don Sutton

Most Ballparks in which Home Run Surrendered

42 Jamie Moyer (Yankee Stadium gave him the lead this week)
41 Randy Johnson
41 Pedro Martinez
40 Livan Hernandez
40 Javier Vazquez

Phillies' ball girls down the outfield lines are the worst-fielding ball girls/boys I've ever seen. They just go yikes! and run out of the way of anything moving faster than a box turtle, make no attempt to catch foul balls until they've stopped moving.

Philadelphia Phillies second baseman Chase Utley will be out at least eight weeks after having surgery on his injured right thumb, Phillies athletic trainer Scott Sheridan said.

The operation was performed Thursday in New York by hand specialist Dr. Andrew Weiland. Trainers said Utley must wear a splint on the thumb for five weeks before he begins rehabilitation. Utley and the Phillies will get a better idea exactly how long he will be sidelined once the stitches are removed from the thumb.

oh hey, maybe the Mets will have a shot at the playoffs now, congratz.

Mordy, we wd have such fun at a Mets-Phils game.

we should totally do it. i don't know when the next game in NY is, or whether it'll be easy to get tickets, but we should make plans. ILX baseball day would be fun.

plus if it's a blowout we can talk polit*cs

SECURITY!

lol as if. i'm like least likely baseball fan to misbehave. you'd be like, "Obama sucks," and i'd probably be like, "lol maybez." i can't sustain seriousness in casual real life interactions

u do know Phillies gear gets you an "asshole" chant now at Citi

Hey Morbs, what's your policy versus rooting for Phillies injuries versus poxes on your team (usually leading to you throwing epic hissy fits)? Just sayin dawg. Be careful with that karma imo.

I pretty much don't "root for injuries." I like Utley.

(esp as he's underrated, if a perennial All-Star can be)

i'll just wear my iggles gear.

YOU'VE BEEN OHLENDORFED

shit, at this rate they'll give Rollins another MVP

i'm a bit surprised that for a supposedly elite player rollins has never OBPed .350+ for a season

it's pretty obv from his style of hitting

his elite status has a lot to do with position scarcity too, for a while there NL shortstop was like the worst position in the majors

OAKLAND, CA's JIMMY ROLLINS

<3<3<3

FUIUD

you don't like IUDs?

Sorry that all baseball players don't fit your archetypical Richie Cunningham dork-hunk model, Doc.

^senile

Ruben Amaro is such a dumbass

Jayson Stark of ESPN.com reports that the Phillies are working on a "major deal" for a starting pitcher and would move Jayson Werth in a "companion trade."

Why dont you trade for Cliff Lee lol

ha!

trading werth actually makes sense since they're not gonna resign him + they have domonic brown languishing in the minors

doesn't solve the ibanez problem but oh well

i think the lee trade actually had some legitimate logic behind it... but in retrospect it kinda sucks, esp cuz the prospects they got back aren't exactly lighting the world on fire

am reading alot of insane banter online about whatever deal is supposedly happening. which makes me think nothing will happen.
i should probably go to bed.

yeah i mean... what starting pitcher would constitute "a major deal"? dan haren? that doesn't make sense bcuz there is no way the d backs would trade for werth and no way that the phillies could give them fair value in return w/o giving up brown

so it must be roy oswalt? that really isn't that major tho cuz it should be pretty easy to get him

ted lilly maybe?

marlins aren't trading nolasco to the phillies

i dunno why amaro feels the need to make these break-even trades when the phillies should be in win-now mode. you'd think he would have learned something from the halladay/lee thing.

if they trade werth for oswalt and dom brown doesn't hit right away then they're in trouble

fuck an amaro. although i still like how ryan howard is being (over)paid with money halladay left on the table. idiot.

Werth for Jonathan Sanchez?

yay Phils back to gettin shut out

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius)

da-da-da-da-da-da

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2010/0729/fan_g_oswalt_d1_200.jpg

Today's game was EPIC.

Agreed!

I've never seen a pitcher called for a balk for faking a throw to an unoccupied base before. That's the kind of weird shit that has been happening to the Dodgers this year.

After hitting the two-run double that capped an incredible Phillies rally, Carlos Ruiz tried to escape his teammates. But that wasn't happening. Not on this night.

He ran away from the happy mob of players sprinting from the dugout. Brian Schneider and Mike Sweeney were the first to tackle him.

"And then it was a big mess," Ruiz said.

I don't know if I should 'aw' at how much they clearly love each other, or gag.

On the current frontpage of Philly.com sports: TO ERR IS HUMAN. 3 ERRORS IS THE METS.

that's way beyond grade level

i laughed, i cried

This is brutal. (Bottom of the 8th v. Giants, Giants just got charged for a balk, now it's 8-3, came into the inning 4-3.)

Oh man, this game.

Ibanez had a great catch this inning (Nationals game), caught the ball like an inch off the ground.

which means that it was hit, what, 2 feet in front of him?

Nah, he did some serious running/diving

heart-breaking 8th inning there

yeah, i saw that. was he out of the base path?

i'm glad they are losing as it helps my team.

this game is going forever

14th inning

yeah, keep switching over.

why do the Astros give them fits?

what just happened?

top of the 15th!

they have to bring in a pitcher because someone got thrown out, so what happened?

howard got thrown out

+ it looks like oswalt made a catch for an out lol

bottom of the 15th!

how the hell do you run out of position players?

oh, that is why.

so nevermind.

Phillies fans were chanting "Asshole, asshole" at the third base ump who threw out Howard.

umps def terrible towards philly this series -- yesterday was pretty fucked up

Phils radio announcers were basically calling for the ump to be fired.

9 pitch counts top of the 16th this game will never end

this has been a very fun night.

but no one should call for other peoples job, that is, in instances like this, not right!

O_O howard

Oswalt's splits with PHI vs. with HOU might be Cy-worthy?

This game!

Grand slam from Utley.

i turned it off to watch some football, what the hell happened in this game? 12-10 is old Coors Field.

don't even ask. all you have to know is utley grand slam, 12-11 in bottom of the 9th, runner in scoring position, and lidge somehow seals the deal for a win. oh, also, i am out of fingernails to bite.

lol

you guys are playing very well, you have eliminated the Rockies with this game.

it might come down to the Phillies vs the Giants or Padres for the Wild Card unless the Braves have problems.

braves lost tonight

how many games are you behind?

2 now

it might come down to the Phillies vs the Giants or Padres for the Wild Card unless the Braves have problems.

― Bee OK, Thursday, September 2, 2010 8:33 PM (2 hours ago)

crazy talk. Phillies are finally at full strength (injuries to Howard, Utley, ShaneVic, etc.) plus added Oswalt who is in Cy contention mode. This team will surge ahead out of the wild card race and take the NL east. the wild card is the braves to lose.

at last we know who he's a fan of

It's going to be close. It'll come down to what the Braves can squeeze out of their 4th and 5th starters.

Oswalt is not the best pitcher named Roy on his team

Hamels is the best pitcher named Cole on his team.

Phillies have been putting on some crazy dramatic games this month. This last inning was insane.

just want to say MLB Video recaps Iluvu and this may be my way in back to following the phils.

braves losing 0-5 to the pirates, and another great close phillies game ->> best time of year

charlie manuel should keep bringing in lefties to face the guy that is hitting .410/.540/.590 vs lefties

man -- it's not a phillies game if it doesn't make u sweat.

i'm out of nails to bite

BACK IN FIRST PLACE!

you guys are on fire, how many games left against the Braves?

I think we have a 3 game series against them at the end of the month?

6, apparently - 3 in the beginning of October

full frontal female helps

haha, wrong thread

:|

what was the right thread?!

lol glove of Ibanez

lol mets fans making fun of phillies

FU

Another Phillies 1-0 win tnite

crazy talk. Phillies are finally at full strength (injuries to Howard, Utley, ShaneVic, etc.) plus added Oswalt who is in Cy contention mode. This team will surge ahead out of the wild card race and take the NL east. the wild card is the braves to lose.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Thursday, September 2, 2010 11:24 PM (2 weeks ago)

Howard/Utley/Victorino are absolutely KILLING it right now fwiw.

Oswalt is not the best pitcher named Roy on his team

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, September 3, 2010 6:50 PM (1 week ago)

What metric are you using because... you wrong dawgglez.

It's not super controversial to say Halladay has been playing better than Oswalt atm, I don't think. Dude has a perfect game this season and 19 wins.

And even still... look at Oswalt's stats. You may be surprised.

JUST SAY IN

maybe since aug 1 but theres no way you'd justify picking oswalt over halladay head to head ever

VORP:

Oswalt 48.2
Halladay 70.4 (best among pitchers and 3rd most in MLB)

How much of VORP is defense dependent? Because Roy O. with HOU vs. PHI defense is pretty O_O.

VORP is so 2005

xpost Let's just say that it isn't 50% defense dependent, which is what it would need to be to make up the difference between them.

wait I thought you were a maths guy. how are you getting to the 50% diff.?

~2/3rds of his season (to date) was with Houston.

I meant that Halladay's VORP is 50% higher than Oswalt's.

That would have to be one really shitty defense in Houston. Like, me playing all the positions kind of bad.

Oswalt has pitched better than Halladay since Aug 1 though. (which is more of a credit to Oswalt -- Halladay has still been really really good)

That would have to be one really shitty defense in Houston. Like, me playing all the positions kind of bad.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:21 AM (8 minutes ago)

this is what I am thinking is the case! Would love to have access to that Stats Inc data.

WAR adjusts for team defense, and Fangraphs has Halladay at 6.4 WAR and Oswalt at 4.0, if you prefer that stat. Disregarding the whole dueling definitions of WAR thing between different websites (which I don't really care about), that's still a huge difference.

baseball-reference WAR is the one that adjusts for team defense

fangraphs WAR uses FIP for the defensive component which only looks at K, BB, HR, and ignores actual runs allowed completely

err the pitching component i mean

Ah, OK, so using B-R's numbers it's 6.7 vs 4.4. Not sure what we learn there, besides the fact that Halladay is still way ahead on the season.

Shasta mancrush on Oswalt: touching

just batted around on JMarquis and the Nats while only recording one out.

another great game tonight -- top-notch lidge save

Kruk calls them the best team in baseball every night, as if we needed another reason to hate em

i think they might go all the way! great pitching and monster offense.

another NYY-PHI Series wd again let me skip it

don't know why you feel the need to come on this thread to whine about the phillies

bcuz their fanz r the wurst ;)

on a less crazy person note: phillies tonite insane and lidge has been saving games left + right these days (swept braves)

fuck this syphilitic earth

NYY-PHI Series wd again let me skip it

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:38 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark

zomg sabr will be scandalized

snark now byatch :P

SNARK!

Cole getz bitched out.

Congrats, Roy.

Roy H.

I was confused at this post for a sec. You talking about finally making it to the playoffs or his ultimate nl cy young win?

Playoffs, yeah. His teammates can pretty much take a flying leap IMO.

you guys are mad with the phillies hate. never understood why people hate on the phills but love the charmless despicable fetid Mets. besides Morbs that is.

If I weren't a Braves stan I wouldn't have any problem with the Phils. I like Charlie M.

who the hell likes the mets

http://twitter.com/GaryCarterRaw/status/25515214614

too soon.

http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hindenburg.jpg

your team should fix its own house, then Mets fans can come and throw stones at other better-run organizations.

I haven't got that much time. Anyway, it's gonna be fun watching the Philths get old!

lol what!

may all their arms fall off

i am ecstatic

you guys are mad with the phillies hate. never understood why people hate on the phills but love the charmless despicable fetid Mets. besides Morbs that is.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:57 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^ words of wisdom, these

I am enjoying all the articles about how selfless Lee is for accepting a contract that will pay him at least 100 million dollars.

If all these dudes were on the same team last year they would still be a few ticks short of ERA+ to beat the 90s Braves holy rotation

you guys are mad with the phillies hate. never understood why people hate on the phills but love the charmless despicable fetid Mets. besides Morbs that is.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:57 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^ words of wisdom, these

― Carmine Dirtnap from North Arlington Returns from Pizzaland (Eisbaer), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

who the hell likes the mets

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:01 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

you know i was a little worried about Morbs today, even if he's not the type to do something rash.

then i saw this

good luck w/ your little team in your little new humid ballpark, J0rdan

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:55 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark

and knew everything was OK!

Insert YouTube link to video of worst rap parody song ever.

i just saw on the espn tv at the bar a little graphic showing the phillies 2011 championship odds set at 5:2 !??

feel like theres a lot of money to be made on the under if those were actual betting odds and not some shit made up by sportscenter

no, probability plays no part and the Phils are a mortal lock, it's just like the NBA.

you can't predict baseball, or Howard and Rollins flatlining

thats what i'm saying, there's no way that they have a 2 in 7 chance of winning the WS even if they are the best team

yeah how do i take that bet?!

I can't get my head around the math (what I'd put up, what I'd win), but if someone offered me those odds, I'd definitely take the field. The Phillies front three is awesome, but there are lots of moving parts on a baseball team; those guys could pitch more or less as well as expected, and lots else could go wrong to nullify that.

(I'm assuming "championship" means World Series; if it just means division, I'd have to think about that.)

It has to mean winning the WS. I'd say they're about even money to win the division, at least.

I believe the Giants went 5-1 against the 'new' Phillies juggernaut rotation in the playoffs.

the problem in the playoffs wasn't the Phillies pitching so much as the almost complete lack of hitting

I believe the Giants went 5-1 against the 'new' Phillies juggernaut rotation in the playoffs.

― strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:18 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

can ppl get off this please? it's 6 games. it means nothing.

Yeah guys, small playoff samples only matter when you're talking about the Red Sox.

huh?

i'm looking here and getting http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20101215_Phillies_now_favored_to_win_World_Series.html
what am i doing wrong here? 9-5 odds = 5/14 = 35.7% chance of winning?!

i'll do some bad math:

80% chance of securing first or wild card, 75% chance of winning NLDS, 70% chance of winning NLCS, 60% chance of WS victory

even that wildly optimistic scenario comes out to a 25.2% of winning.. will they let you take the other side of that bet?

you can always bet all 29 other teams to win. ^_^

I'm sure they'll be much better this year now that one of their best hitters left.

The obvious cautionary note for the Phillies' chances: all those World Series won by the Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz Braves (close, but a front three I'd take over the Phillies').

Something else (seems like I'm knocking the Phillies; I'm not, just trying to look at this realistically): Roy Oswalt's been a great pitcher over his career, but is anyone looking for him to duplicate what he did after he came over to Philadelphia last year? When he left Houston, he was on the third year of a normal mid-career decline (or, if you will, adjustment); after the trade he did something not all that uncommon, which is to pitch lights out for the last couple of months. Who will the Phillies get this year: the guy they saw in August and September, or the guy who left Houston? My guess would be the latter.

2 things: better defense and change of scenery. playing for one of the worst teams in baseball can't be good for the ERA/WHIP in both factors.

Agreed, in explaining what happened last year. One of those factors presumably remains, the other's gone--and I think the one that's gone can be pretty huge.

I'm not saying he won't pitch well; even an average year from Oswalt will be pretty good. I'm saying he won't be putting up a 1.74 ERA, and there are reasons to believe he's more inclined to be in the mid-three range or higher.

If you're going to ignore the SABR figures, I'd try not to limit your focus to straight ERA. Something that's telling even in his "off"-first half of the year with Houston is that his WHIP was 1.11 and his BAA was .229. Those #s are in line with your #1-#2 pitchers. He will be fine.

yeah is anyone saying roy oswalt is gonna put up a sub-2 era? i must have missed that.

I'm watching the Lee press conference and I can't think of any player I've seen in my lifetime who ever wanted to be a Philly as much as he does

yeah is anyone saying roy oswalt is gonna put up a sub-2 era? i must have missed that

Not explicitly, no. But I'm addressing the idea that the Phillies are now overwhelming, off-the-chart favorites to win next year (which is what the past 30 posts have been about)--to believe that, I think one of the assumptions you'd be making is that Oswalt next year will be something close to the Oswalt of August and September. "He will be fine"--sure, no argument. I'm questioning the idea that Halladay + Lee + "He will be fine" = 1970 Orioles.

Let me be even clearer: no one here is saying that about Oswalt--but whoever pegged the Phillies at 5 to 2 to win the Series is.

I think even the phillies fans (like me) think the 5 to 2 number is ridiculous

Another thing I'd be interested in doing is going back over every postseason since '69 and asking two questions: who among the playoff teams was favored to win, and who actually did win? If you eliminated the occasional year where there was no clear favorite, I'd be surprised if even half the favorites ultimately emerge as the WS winner. (I'm just guessing.) And a) it becomes even more a roll of the dice in the wild-card era, and b) all of that presupposes that you make the playoffs in the first place. Winning a World Series is really hard!

But you're right, probably everybody here realizes those odds are crazy.

uhhh you realize vegas sets odds to get action, not because they have an actual opinion?

Thanks for the clarification; I assume it's also meant for all the other people upthread who commented on the absurdity of those odds.

Clem, just to back up a bit I think perhaps you are underrating Oswalt's tenure with Houston in 2010. Take a look at some defense independent stats. He had a great YEAR, he was one of the top 15-20 pitchers in baseball (nb: I was his biggest cheerleader on ILB). Yes he was particularly great down the stretch. but take a deeper peak at his season with Houston outside of ERA and you may be surprised...

UNLESS you're going "retro-cool" for ERA like you did for RBIs earlier this year, and in that case, I am just gonna shrug.gif

xp yes it is, talking about odds is pointless unless you are gambling

Yes he was particularly great down the stretch. but take a deeper peak at his season with Houston outside of ERA and you may be surprised...

I have, and you're quite right; his H/9 and SO/BB with the Astros were very good last year. How about we split the difference between his four months with Houston and two with the Phillies, add a year for age, and say he'll have an ERA around 3.00 next year?

talking about odds is pointless unless you are gambling

And talking about the Academy Awards is pointless, unless you're a marketing executive--but we do, all the time. Most everything we argue about here is pointless. But it's fun, so we do.

i'm not a big gambler, but it seems to me that the odds have a lot more to do with popular conception than some realistic set of facts. like, phillies are probably a very hot bet right now because of this trade and so vegas responds appropriately by giving you far less payout for your bet.

Anyway, I'll admit that I misunderstood the initial origin of these 5:2 odds. I thought they were the opinion of a writer, or someone at ESPN--I didn't realize they were actual Vegas odds.

but you have to factor in the vig.. which at this stage must be pretty steep. perhaps a good 10% more which would wipe out insured profit. and to cad's point, it's largely pr blathering to churn up interest.

As soon as you start talking about the vig, I'm seeing Morrie the wig salesman getting his head bashed in by Jimmy the Gent.

Another thing I'd be interested in doing is going back over every postseason since '69 and asking two questions: who among the playoff teams was favored to win, and who actually did win?

How often does the team that won the most games in that season go on to win the WS? It's fairly rare (they show these numbers every year during the playoffs).

http://twitpic.com/2zekv3

(They showed the 2010 NLCS replay tonight fwiw)

it seems to me that the odds have a lot more to do with popular conception than some realistic set of facts. like, phillies are probably a very hot bet right now because of this trade and so vegas responds appropriately by giving you far less payout for your bet.

Yes, but this has to be balanced against offering too-favourable odds on the other teams, which a boomaker needs to avoid, at least before the betting has really started. Joe Posnanski is baffled the Royals are 125-1, for example. I'm baffled the Dodgers and their sexy new rotation are 30-1 when there's no guarantee the Rockies or Giants will be obviously better in 2011.

James put a new piece up yesterday called "Thirty-Three Rotations." I love the subtitle: "The 33 Greatest Starting Rotations of All-Time in Chronological Order, Apropos Nothing in Particular." The five most recent: '02 Braves, '01 Mariners, '01 A's, '97 Braves, '93 White Sox.

Domonic Brown bwoke his hand

Uh oh! Did he punch his children's grandfather in the face???

jkjk

Apparently he'll be back in like 3-6 weeks.

I'm so excited for new baseball btw -- I just got my MLB.tv package!

phils top pitching prospect Trevor May answering questions on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/oa934/iama_top_prospect_in_the_mlb_minor_league_system/

icymi

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29655920/philadelphia-phillies-retire-dick-allen-no-15-next-month

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Great article on Schwarbo

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5571231/2024/06/18/the-essence-of-kyle-schwarber-the-phillies-everyman-slugger-with-an-empathetic-spirit/?source=user_shared_article

as a native philadelphian the "wooder" jug just feels so pandering. please stop