― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)
People should remember what happened when an actual academic tried to invade the board.
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
Oh, I had my caps lock on.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)
carry on.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0306813904/qid=1140631062/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-0599176-8683967?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)
ironically late last year the journal Technology and Culture from Johns Hopkins ripped me a new asshole for, well, you guessed it.
Mark Coleman's "story of machine-made music and those who made it possible" (p. xxiv) merits review here because its subject is technology and culture. It also bears notice because of the prospect that students will draw on it, and because their instructors should be forewarned. This could have been a fine synthesis. That it is not is a reflection of the subject's complexity, the author's background, and the paucity of academic sources that he has used. Coleman is a record reviewer who blends some scholarship with insider histories, specialist publications, and recent business journalism...
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 23 February 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)
Someday I will finish grad school. Oh no I won't.
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 23 February 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 24 February 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)
i wish i had time for graduate school for that matter, but at the moment i think that's still a year off.
but so anyway...carry on.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 24 February 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)
Or is it a plain/ plane of alternative reality?
And are we allowed to wave our degrees around in this thread?
― SRH (Skrik), Friday, 24 February 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
not to mention SOPHOMORIC
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)
Even when I'm in school, I tend towards being an autodidact.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)
1. Feeling dim and unedumacated because apparently an English Lit degree hasn't qualified me to take part in any of the discussions on ILB. Although I"ve been told that my school was very un-jargony and if I had gone anywhere else I would have had different kinds of conversations and maybe be more used to it, still -- should I have studied/read all these things on my own time? Does that mean I'm not really much of a scholar or v intelligent, if I was never motivated enough to seek out the ideas that are common currency around here? You can see this is going nowhere good, so to head it off at the pass...
2. I try to put #1 out of my mind and focus on what I can offer in my specialties because how much seeking out is one person supposed to do in a whole world of information?? Ask me about children's books, instead. And everyone's experience is equally valid etc etc so I try to post if I feel strongly enough, regardless of whether someone will very shortly invalidate my point, using lots of big words in the process.
3. Try to perform #2 without getting a complex about it and taking on a stubborn, rebellious cast. You can see I am only occasionally successful in that aim.
I dunno, I wish ILB was more exciteable. I've said before that I like to sponge information off people, esp people who I LIKE to begin with, because then I get their color commentary and little asides and a more textured picture than if I just went to a reference book for answers. But...something is missing here.
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
"here are some books I've been reading lately""Margaret Atwood: Classic or Dud?""Where do you usually read?"
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)
Oh, XP.
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)
(massive xpost)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)
Exactly. If I ever have bad feelings about ILB, it's because somebody posts, "Here's what I read last week," lists about ten books and then say "Gotta go read some more. 'K thx bye" and I feel that wave of resentment well up at the people who are faster readers/have more leisure time/don't have time to tell me what's actually in all those books they're reading.
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 24 February 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)
[Thinks hard about whether she does this or not]
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 24 February 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 24 February 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 February 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)
Now, at the same time, there are enough of us who are interested in books that are "postmodern" or "theory" or whatever that we can have conversations there -- I know I talk with Ken about Markson or Sorrentino or whoever, and with Josh about Wittgenstein et al.
I wish there were more people writing about books I would never have thought to read. Sort of like ILComics -- my small amount of comics intake has bupkis to do with the superhero comics that get discussed there, so it's nice to read that. Of course, there you're going to find a dozen people who are reading more or less the same set of things, whereas I defy you to find a book that enough people have read on ILB. Wodehouse is the closest example to something we have "all" read, I think, and even there there's only just enough.
But I would be really happy for more children's book discussion here, in particular. Have we had a Louise Fitzhugh thread yet? Or even Norman Juster? Surely there's been at least a Dahl thread by now. I am pretty sure there's a Moomin thread.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 February 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)
Okay, here's a recommendation: I just finished T. C. Boyle's Water Music, his first novel. Fucking fantastic—like Dickens and Kipling had a baby and took lots of acid during the pregnancy. I loved World's End, too, all the riffing on the Dutch settlers of the Hudson. I like it when he's fantastical and wacky. Drop City was okay but I didn't love it the way I love those two. He's been pulling his picaresque punches lately.
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 24 February 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 24 February 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 February 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)
so, chris, since we are just talking here, i asked you if you wanted to do categories for threads a long time ago, do we need them? do you want to ask someone else if they want to do them and give them the power to do so? does it matter at this late date? i, quite obviously, never did it and nobody ever complained. i don't really feel like doing it now. plus, i don't feel like coming up with tongue & cheek categories. it might make it easier for people to search for threads. author category. fiction, non-fiction, etc. maybe it doesn't matter.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)
On the other hand, I do enjoy categorizing things.
I have no opinion one way or the other.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 25 February 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 25 February 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 25 February 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)
Beth, I am taking your recommendation on board. What I usually do is try to remember the names of the books that are highly recommended and wait for them to come into my shop. I am like a tarantula. Of books.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 25 February 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Saturday, 25 February 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 25 February 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 25 February 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 25 February 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 25 February 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Saturday, 25 February 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 25 February 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 25 February 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 25 February 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)
the only credentials needed to post!
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 25 February 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 25 February 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 February 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)
One final point, I think there is much misunderstanding and points taken the wrong way on threads because, simply, most people on here have never met one another and you can't anticipate their emotional reaction.
I take loads from these boards, although my own contribution is slighter than it used to be.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 27 February 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)
Unless, you know, you're a master criminal.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 27 February 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 27 February 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)
also thanx scott, ken, mary
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)
Also, I'm pretty sure there's a thread somewhere for finding un- and misremembered books.
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 4 March 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)
Actually, it's looking like we will be moving come the fall (hello again Seattle!), so we really do need to pare down. Box o' Pratchett is shipping your way today!
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)