Happy New Year, y'all. Welcome to the first What Are You Reading thread of the Reform Era.
Due to a slacking off in the pace at which ILB's WAYR threads have been piling up posts, combined with some mild grumbling from our Southern Hemispherical friends about our quarterly threads constantly referencing the wrong season for them, I thought maybe we should ditch the old quarterly/seasonal format for a sleeker, modern streamlined thread. After the first six months we can decide if we want or need one or two WAYR threads per annum.
I'm about to start in on Emily Wilson's translation of the Odyssey of Homer. It's waiting for me at the public library (currently closed for New Year's Day). Meanwhile I'll browse around in David Hinton's translations of the poems of Wang Wei.
Here's a link to last year's final WAYR thread: Caught, Back, Party Going: What Are You Reading In The Fall of 2024?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 18:56 (eight months ago)
I'm reading Hard to Be a God by the Strugatsky brothers, given to me by a friend years ago.
I think I left it sitting around because I mistakenly thought that Refn movie (Only God Forgives) was an adaptation? Even though I already loved Roadside Picnic. Idk, very silly of me. But I'm Strugatsky-pilled after reading The Doomed City and I'm glad to have it on hand (any other Strugatsky recs?).
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:05 (eight months ago)
I'm reading about the moles.
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:09 (eight months ago)
ALTERNATE COVER
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:11 (eight months ago)
alternate alternate U.S. cover
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:13 (eight months ago)
"the savage kingdom of moles"? goodness me!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:16 (eight months ago)
"I think I left it sitting around because I mistakenly thought that Refn movie (Only God Forgives) was an adaptation?"
The 2013 movie version of Hard to Be a God is nuts! watch it after you read it. There is also an earlier one with Werner Herzog in it but i've never seen that one.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:17 (eight months ago)
I just recently finished “Say Nothing” by Patrick Radden Keefe, so am continuing this particular rabbithole with an overview history: a re-read of “The Troubles” by Tim Pat Coogan. I somehow lost my original copy & mr veg gave me a new one for xmasHe writes quite beautifully but it is a bit slow going as my holiday-brain struggles to keep hold of all the info
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:35 (eight months ago)
oh and am also reading “Shakespeare: The Man Who Pays The Rent” by Judi Dench w Brendan O’Heaseries of long-ranging interviews w Judi on the various Shakespeare characters she’s played over her career; at times line-by-line /scene-by-scene insights into her perspectives on the characters & the text, it’s pretty fascinating!. a friend gave it to me for xmas, i hadn’t even heard about it, loving it so far.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 19:41 (eight months ago)
Great moles.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 20:35 (eight months ago)
Yes, good moleage indeed.
In prep for teaching Faustus next term, I'm reading Anthony Burgess's A Dead Man in Deptford. Being Burgess, it's full of language games, and he's hot on Latin filth*. Marlowe's time in the 'service' of Walsingham is really well put together, particularly the sections in Paris; it's great on the scuzz and grime of London (the brutal death of Babington is vivid and disgusting); I love the conversations over pubs with Raleigh and co, the dramatisation of Catholic and atheist guilt like a cloak over everything. It's probably a bit 'do you see' about Marlowe's sexuality but some of the sex is great all the same. There are also some 'chubby hmm' moments where he's working out his 'might line' drunkenly walking the streets and when he first tries 'the nymph' tobacco with Raleigh. I'm enjoying myself immensely.
*Irrumabo - Latin for fuck (I think). It appears in a poem by Catullus and in the phrase Irrumabo Omnia Et Facti Pirata, which translates to "Fuck everything and become a pirate”, which is 100% my new motto.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 20:52 (eight months ago)
I think yearly threads are a good idea, fwiw. Happy new year you lot.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 20:55 (eight months ago)
Happy new year! We made it. We can continue to read more.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 January 2025 21:01 (eight months ago)
Fleur Jaeggy - Proleterka
89 pages of very tightly written prose.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 January 2025 22:30 (eight months ago)
I found the mole book on my parent’s bookshelf over Christmas. On the inside cover there’s library stamp from my middle school library. I guess I borrowed it around 1990 and forgot about it. Or quite possibly I just stole it. Maybe I’ll actually read it this time.
I’m reading the new Richard Osman, it’s the start of a new series, the usual undemanding fun. I always try to give myself something easy at the start of the year, when it’s miserable and I feel like I’ve forgotten how to read.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 2 January 2025 00:28 (eight months ago)
Why not just What Are You Reading in 2025? And then if you eventually want to add a second, can guess the rest.
― dow, Thursday, 2 January 2025 02:54 (eight months ago)
Anyway, I'm currently going back and forth between The Brothers Mann and Babel 17, young Delany's driving ambition proving compatible w the competitive sibs'.
― dow, Thursday, 2 January 2025 03:01 (eight months ago)
Just finished the first volume of Your Face Tomorrow. Won't be getting the second. The long discursive sections that make up almost all of the book might have been hypnotic if my attention had been captured, but it wasn't. There is something compelling about it, but it's hard to say what. Maddening.
― rainbow calx (lukas), Thursday, 2 January 2025 03:25 (eight months ago)
Why not just What Are You Reading in 2025?
Why not the current title?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 2 January 2025 03:32 (eight months ago)
The Penguin Book Of Korean Short Stories - Focuses on the modern Koreas, def nothing pre 20th century has appeared yet, but surprisingly there are some Northern writers!
South Korean writer Yi Munyol's "The Old Hatter" takes the cake in terms of a traditional mentality that feels alien to a Western reader in 2025. Check this lament:
Our old morality went the way of the old learning. The pious man who cooked his son to feed his old father; the filial daughter-in-law who cut off her finger to bring her mother-in-law back to life by feeding her drops of blood; the faithful wife who took her own life after her husband's death - we have totally forgotten these virtuous people, whose memory once shone brighter than any monument of gold. The world now belongs to those sons whose filial piety amounts to not striking their aged fathers, daughters in law who can earn praise by not throwing out their old fathers-in-law, and wives whose loyalty simply meant not having children by other men.
Society is in the gutter!!!
Very different indeed is Pak Taewon's A Day In The Life Of Kubo The Novelist, a stream of consciousness piece about a sad young man walking through the nightlife of Seoul. It's fascinating both as an example of how Beaudelaire, Woolf and Joyce (who gets a namedrop) were being digested outside of Europe, but also as a glimpse of Korea under Japanese occupation, a period which coincided with the beginnings of Westernization, writers in thrall to modernism, women hitting the bars in the style of flappers, etc.
Taewon ended up joining the North when the civil war came and stayed in N Korea until his death in the 80's; he had his right to write revoked for a few years but apparently regained it. NO IDEA what his later writings are like. He did leave a daughter in the South though, who in torn had a son...who turned out to be Bong Joon-Ho, you may have heard of him.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 2 January 2025 12:28 (eight months ago)
Thanks Daniel! I really want to check out Korean lit. Local library is closed for repairs, though relocation seems more and more likely (and then Local Library War can ramp back up, maybe with more xenophobia, considering return of Mr. T.)
Why not just What Are You Reading in 2025?Why not the current title?
― dow, Thursday, 2 January 2025 20:47 (eight months ago)
Pierre Senges - Rabelais's Doughnuts
A very short collection of stories and essays. Going for a bit of Borges here -- favourites are an essay on libraries, both actual and fictional, and a monologue by a counterfeiter -- its pretty good
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 January 2025 23:43 (eight months ago)
i finished a book in 2025 which afaict means im ahead of 2024 already- i was gifted all the presidents men
anyway it tripped along more than i had expected and didnt get too bogged down in all the names, i enjoyed it
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Friday, 3 January 2025 02:33 (eight months ago)
Currently reading Bryan Burrough's Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence, which I bought in December. Giving it one chapter a night. It's good, but he clearly hates the Weathermen and has a red-hot hate-boner for Bernardine Dohrn.
Also downloaded a couple of ebooks that I'm either dipping in and out of (the Ellison) or going to get to soon:
Julia Armfield, Private Rites (apparently a modern gloss on King Lear focusing on three daughters after Daddy's death)Alex Van Halen, Brothers (autobiography)Ralph Ellison, The Collected Essays of... (grabbed this just for his writings on jazz)
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 3 January 2025 22:27 (eight months ago)
not far along, but
FALL OF CIVILIZATIONS, paul cooper: awkwardly written and handwavey, doubt i'll continue
BLISS & BLUNDER, victoria gosling: retelling of camelot with arthur as a tech billionaire, gwen as his influencer wife, etc. which may not sound all that promising but it's brilliant so far
― mookieproof, Friday, 3 January 2025 23:08 (eight months ago)
Currently reading Raymond Smullyan - The Tao Is Silent. Prefer his style in smaller doses, honestly, although I'll finish this.
If I were you I'd skip it and just read the best bit online: Is God a Taoist?.
― rainbow calx (lukas), Saturday, 4 January 2025 01:12 (eight months ago)
Currently reading "The Creative Mind: An Introduction to Metaphysics" by Henri Bergson. The last book published in his lifetime, it's a collection of essays and lectures written over a twenty year period, but it holds together pretty well, since Bergson is at his most readable, and a couple of the essays were written specifically to tie the collection together.
― o. nate, Saturday, 4 January 2025 20:31 (eight months ago)
Started rereading Moby Dick because Backlisted did their Christmas episode on it. I had vaguely remembered it as a good story with quite a lot of asides about whaling; I'm now finding that it's maybe 85% essays on whaling and 15% story, mostly concentrated in the first and last chapters. There are moments where Ishmael goes, "Now I really must tell you about X," and X is, like, the wooden fork that the harpoon rests in when it's in the boat, and tbh I really think the book would have survived without a chapter on it. Still good, though.
― Lily Dale, Monday, 6 January 2025 02:23 (eight months ago)
it's the way he does it, though, reveling in his knowledge, like some mad monk ov Dark Ages (not a sociable guy ashore, and sea life is getting pretty dark too, he even disappears for a while)
― dow, Monday, 6 January 2025 03:30 (eight months ago)
I stopped really keeping track of what I was reading around August of last year— I was reading but not in any organized fashion, feeling a little harried and disorganized in my thoughts and patterns.
In any case— this year I have resolved to take more organize joy in my reading and listening.
So far, I have finished ‘Skip Tracing,’ a book by Philly poet Ken Bluford. It’s his first major collection though he is nearly 75– it seems he was active in poetry in the 70s and 80s and then sort of dropped out for whatever reason and is finally having a little renaissance. Excellent book, the Tom Weatherly comparisons are apt but there is a classical air to some of Bluford’s poems that is really striking.
Also finished ‘The Climbing Zine: Book One,’ a collection of writing from the first twelve issues of a climbing-based zine out of Colorado. The best pieces are up there with some of the best adventure writing I have ever come across, and the worst pieces were among the most indulgent and insipid I have ever read. Only some athletes are good writers!!
Now just about to finish Emmanuel Hocquard’s ‘Conditions of Light,’ translated by Jean-Jacques Poucel. Uncanny, elegiac, formally restrained sequence of poems, with each iteration consisting of five poems of five lines each. Quite lovely, here is a nice sample from this morning:
It is noon touches the back In the darkness photos await The dough rises on the type shop stool The very idea of relation
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 6 January 2025 14:15 (eight months ago)
Read Alex Van Halen's autobiography, Brothers, in a day. It's pretty good. He quotes from other relevant figures' VH books (David Lee Roth's, producer Ted Templeman's, former manager Noel Monk's) and tells you what he agrees with and what he disagrees with, and he's affectionately scornful of Roth, calling him a dilettante and a dummy but an immensely talented live performer/attention magnet on multiple occasions. Worth a read if you're a Van Halen fan; it will make you hear the records differently.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 6 January 2025 14:49 (eight months ago)
I'm about a third into Emily Wilson's Odyssey translation. It reads swiftly and clearly, but isn't prosaic at all. To achieve that she clearly trimmed and paraphrased rather than trying to save every detail and repetitive epithet in the text. Some people would consider that editing Homer like that is the height of presumption. Not me. I commend her for doing an excellent job, while losing nothing of real importance and producing a first rate modern translation.
For some unfathomable reason I also read the 90 pages of Introduction and Translator's Note, which delved far too deeply into the immense pile of marginalia that has accumulated around Homeric texts. What's worse is that I'd already rummaged around fairly thoroughly in that junk drawer back in college, so there was nothing new for me to learn.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 6 January 2025 18:58 (eight months ago)
Ia Genberg - The Details. A woman's life via her remembrances of 4 people. Liked it a lot.
Mariana Enriquez - A Sunny Place for Shady People. Short story collection, mostly set in Argentina, mostly horror or macabre/unnerving/supernatural in tone. I enjoyed it but I feel like I was missing a lot of stuff that someone more intelligent would get out of it.
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 9 January 2025 21:26 (eight months ago)
Jean Paul - Maria Wutz
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 January 2025 11:04 (eight months ago)
Maria Wutz?
― dow, Saturday, 11 January 2025 01:51 (eight months ago)
Wutz it to you
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 11 January 2025 09:34 (eight months ago)
Maria Wutz:
https://sublunaryeditions.com/products/maria-wutz-jean-paul
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 January 2025 11:25 (eight months ago)
I really liked it but was reading it on a plane journey with two very nervous people sat beside me.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 January 2025 11:27 (eight months ago)
on a chapbook spree, though I did try to break it up with a book of poems which I decided was MFA-core slop after the first fifteen pages.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 11 January 2025 13:00 (eight months ago)
Augusto Monterosso - The Rest is Silence
Novel released in the late 70s, now available in a translation from NYRB.
Its about the 'life' of a literary critic in a small fictional town, by the name of Eduardo Torres. It starts with a few testimonies by others (unreliable, with digression as king), then we move to his 'criticism' (its ofc terrible, this is like the first novel I've read that really lampoons Sunday supplement crit properly), then we have aphorisms (most bad, but some might be good, this section is totally playing with your expectations of this kind of writing), and then an analysis of one of Torres' poem by a 'colleague' (or a rival, or Torres under a pseudonym), with a final two page commentary on the whole thing just before publication.
If you are into criticism its funny. If you are not you can read these as short stories -- which is what Monterosso spent most of his career publishing in Mexico (where he lived in exile from Guatemala). Whatever way you read it there isn't a lot like it.
Its possible this is the only way he could structure something approaching a novel.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 January 2025 17:06 (eight months ago)
Starting 2025 in suitably apocalyptic style: negrophobia by Darius James and late victorian holocausts by Mike Davis. Might have to go lighter for the next one
― Sir Kock Farmer (wins), Saturday, 11 January 2025 17:54 (eight months ago)
A while back, a friend said I should get into writing YA fiction because it can be lucrative and remain interesting, and because my poetic field has been feeling pretty fallow recently, I decided to dive into some newer YA books to see whether I think I could pull it off.
Of course, the first book I chose absorbed me completely for several hours and brought up some painful memories of adolescence. ‘Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe’ by Benjamin Alire Sáenz is a lovely book, narrated by Aristotle, a fifteen year old loner with some family drama, inner rage, a loathing of most other boys. He becomes friends with Dante, who is more of a hippie free spirit with a loving set of academic parents. It’s set in El Paso in 1987. I won’t give away much, but the essential drama of the book is Ari learning to “stop fighting the war he’s fighting” against himself.
It’s hard to read books like this sometimes— they didn’t really exist when I was a teenager. I wish they had, as I probably would have felt a lot less alone. Also tied into this thread is the idea that if my parents and the general environment hadn’t made me so afraid to be myself, my life could have been very different, and much happier. It’s a fool’s errand to obsess about what could have been, but it’s hard not to do so when looking back on how repressed and broken I was for much ofmy teenage life.
What I am happy about is that teenagers today have these sorts of books. I am getting the sequel out from the library this afternoon.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 13 January 2025 12:30 (eight months ago)
I really liked Aristotle and Dante too, but I gave up on the sequel before the 100pg mark. The writing was super banal and just...bad in a way I don't remember the first book being (sample line of prose from the sequel would be something like: "I don't like it when Ari is mad at me. It makes me feel sad").
Queer YA is kinda my thing, so I'm here for any recommendations you need.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 13 January 2025 15:48 (eight months ago)
crypto— please give me all the recs for queer YA! thanks in advance <3
i am hesitant about reading the sequel because i have heard similar things, but i guess we’ll see.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 13 January 2025 16:23 (eight months ago)
I'd say start with Bill Konigsberg's Openly Straight--and then if you like it, move on to its (actually good!) sequel, Honestly Ben. Don't want to claim anything as authoritative as these being the *best* queer YA novels, but I did make them a focus of my dissertation, and I include Openly Straight whenever I get to teach my Gay Life & Culture in the 21st Century course (the students usually respond very positively to it). But there's plenty more where that came from, so feel free to reach out whenever you're ready for more.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 13 January 2025 18:23 (eight months ago)
I'm reading a posthumously published novel by Barbara Pym, An Academic Question. The narrative voice has many touches of her somewhat rueful and self-deflating humor, but I can see why she held onto it; it's a bit underdeveloped.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 13 January 2025 18:37 (eight months ago)
Currently reading "Letters On the Aesthetic Education of Man" by Friedrich Schiller, and also slowly making my way through "Family Furnishings: Selected Stories 1995-2014" by Alice Munro.
― o. nate, Monday, 13 January 2025 19:05 (eight months ago)
xpost thanks crypto, going to get that transferred to my local branch library.
today i *did* go to the library to get the Aristotle and Dante sequel, then read some reviews and thought better of reading it— i loved the first one and would rather not have it tainted, tbh.
Also took out ‘Darius the Great is Not Okay,’ ‘Boy Meets Boy,’ ‘Different for Boys,’ and a few others. Already finished ‘Different for Boys’ because it’s more like a short story, but it had its small moments.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 13 January 2025 21:58 (eight months ago)
Richard Russo “risk pool.”I’d like to thank whoever it was (Scott?) who recommended him after I mentioned Richard ford. I adore this book, don’t want it to end.
― calstars, Monday, 13 January 2025 21:59 (eight months ago)
yeah i love Russo’s books, he’s great
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2025 22:07 (eight months ago)
The Risk Pool is my fave of his.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 January 2025 22:39 (eight months ago)
xxxp
Boy Meets Boy is David Levithan, no? He's hit and miss for me--I nearly hurled Will Grayson, Will Grayson, his collab with John Green (the Fault in Our Stars guy) against the wall--but when he's on he's on: Every Day is a clever speculative/fantasy thing about a being who inhabits a different person's body each day, and Two Boys Kissing is a story of contemporary queer teens narrated by a Greek chorus of gay men who died of AIDS during the 80s and 90s. HIs latest, Ryan and Avery, is nice queer romance between a gay boy and a trans boy (I've assigned my students an excerpt from the novel this term). Some of his other books, though, show the obvious signs of an author who makes their living putting out a novel a year.
Don't know Different for Boys--one for me to check out! I've had Darius sitting on my shelf for a while now, so it's about time I got to that one.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 13 January 2025 22:53 (eight months ago)
Thread delivers---thanks, xyzzzz two days ago), and all others following!
― dow, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 01:03 (eight months ago)
Finished Dangerous Visions. Gave up on Peaces by Helen Oyeyemi, the simultaneous whimsical and smart-aleck style was not at all appealing. Started The Beginning of Spring by Penelope Fitzgerald.
― birming man (ledge), Tuesday, 14 January 2025 08:53 (eight months ago)
crypto, i like Darius so far.
i couldn’t get through 15 pages of the Levithan— the narrator’s voice was so unlike a teenager’s and the setting so wildly unlikely given the time period that i gave up on it rather quickly.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 January 2025 12:58 (eight months ago)
Camilo Jose Cela - The Family of Pascal Duarte
In which a man, "cornered and terrified" by life jots down his thoughts, which become of interest to the authorities. This is set just before the Spanish Civil War and Cela's misanthropy and nihilism were in full flow from this, his first novel.
A mode which he would go on and refine in The Hive.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 18:29 (eight months ago)
The Boys from Brazil! Features one of the worst intros I’ve ever read to a book in my life, by someone called Chelsea Cain. It did not predispose me to seek out her work.Anyway, I haven’t ever seen the film but i I roughly knew what this was about. Brilliant opening so far.
― gyac, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 19:20 (eight months ago)
Now I'm reading Breakout, a 'Parker' crime novel by Richard Stark. It's the kind of thing one can read in a day, if you care to put in about 4 or 5 hours. These novels have laconic style by the carload, which makes them fun to read.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 01:34 (eight months ago)
Boys from Brazil update: they’re cloning Hitler!
Nürnberger said, ‘The initial batch must have had a higher success-ratio than he expected.’ ‘I can’t help feeling,’ Klaus said, ‘that you’re a little bit pleased by the achievement.’ ‘Well, you have to admit that strictly from a scientific viewpoint, it’s a step forward.’ ‘Jesus Christ! Do you mean you can sit there and—’ ‘Klaus,’ Lena said. ‘Oh – shit.’ Klaus slapped the almonds down.
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 11:19 (eight months ago)
another levin where the surpise ending is in the middle, leaving him half a book to show how it plays out.
― koogs, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 14:32 (eight months ago)
see also: Stepford Wives, A Kiss Before Dying, Rosemary's Baby, Sliver. in fact, most of them.
― koogs, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 14:34 (eight months ago)
I'm reading Lucia Berlin's *A Manual for Cleaning Women*. I'm a doofus and read 'cleaning' as a verb, which on reflection is weird. But the process of learning who Berlin writes about has been instructive: the lonely, the lost, the people on your bus who look afraid to touch the ground. I did wonder if there was an element of misery tourism about some of the early stories but the further I go with her, the less this matters. People have compared her to Carver but I sense more heart and the unadorned prose quarries great depths. The title story is extraordinary.
https://shortstoryproject.com/stories/a-manual-for-cleaning-women/
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 16 January 2025 11:30 (eight months ago)
I started reading The Pigeon Tunnel, John LeCarre. It's billed as a memoir, but I've read a third of it and it is more a series of anecdotes having to do with when, where & how he got the material for his books. He doesn't reveal much about his private life or thoughts, which is fine with me as long as the anecdotes are sufficiently interesting.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 17 January 2025 17:18 (eight months ago)
his collected letters might be good if you do want more private life and thoughts (https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/john-le-carres-search-for-a-vocation)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 January 2025 20:27 (eight months ago)
Finished The Boys from Brazil. What a weird book, but fun (?) The ending is so predictable but again, fun. Think I rank his work I’ve read so far as:Stepford WivesRosemary’s BabyThe Boys From Brazil
a mile of shitThis Perfect Day
― gyac, Friday, 17 January 2025 20:36 (eight months ago)
Never read The Boys From Brazil, but the movie is hilarious.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 17 January 2025 21:23 (eight months ago)
More YA— finished ‘Darius the Great is Not Okay,’ which I wish had more “queer” content because of how it was marketed but which I liked nonetheless, as well as ‘The Chandler Legacies,’ about a group of students, four of them queer, at a boarding school with an abuse problem. The latter was good but it felt like not enough played out on the page for some of the characters to be acting as they were toward each other. Could have used more dialogue, more actual action instead of implicit action.
I broke down and started the Aristotle and Dante sequel, crypto, and while I can see what you (and other reviewers) have written about it, at least the first half of the book feels almost ambient in tone and emotional content— a lot of intense love and feeling pulsates through it— so I can forgive the sort of limited stylings of the prose.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 17 January 2025 22:30 (eight months ago)
xp I’m definitely going to seek this out and watch it this weekend
― gyac, Friday, 17 January 2025 22:35 (eight months ago)
xp to Tabes. I have a creative writing class on a Friday afternoon. It's been a slow process getting to know the kids in there, who are mostly queer, trans and/or neurodiverse. One kid totally opened up today (we were writing about Gothic themes) and they recommended Aiden Thomas - a queer, trans Latinx writer. The Cemetery Boys series is supposed to be good. I did see the dreaded phrase 'MFA in creative writing' when I Googled them.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 17 January 2025 22:39 (eight months ago)
for some reason my parents took me along to see 'the boys from brazil' when it came out, which is kind of crazy as it is rated R (for what IMDB calls 'severe violence') and i was six years old!
i don't remember any of the details apart from a hand being clapped over my eyes multiple times
― mookieproof, Saturday, 18 January 2025 01:09 (eight months ago)
I have heard of that series, chinaski, thanks for the rec!!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 January 2025 03:37 (eight months ago)
I read the first Cemetery Boys book and enjoyed it. Didn’t know it had become a series.
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 18 January 2025 05:12 (eight months ago)
Hanna Johansson - Antiquity. blurb calls it a female lolita or some such. it isn't really. jornalist befriends/becomes obsessed with an artist, goes on holiday with her and starts to transfer said obsession to artists teenage daughter. p good.
To Cook A Bear - Mikael Niemi. historical crime novel set amomgst the sami community in northern sweden. didnt enjoy the crime bits but loved everything else.
― oscar bravo, Saturday, 18 January 2025 12:43 (eight months ago)
Orhan Pamuk - My Name is Red
About a 1/3 of the way through this story of murder of a painter in the sultan's 14th century court. It had an amazing opening which is told from the POV of the killed.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 January 2025 16:42 (eight months ago)
crypto, i finished the Ari and Dante sequel, and while it certainly could have used some major editing, i actually kind of loved it, as its poignant moments did feel honest and real, despite some naff dialogue here and there.
that Dante gets into Oberlin made me laugh and laugh— i clearly am the crybaby wuss in my relationship, so thst this fictional character made the same decision I did was super humorous to me.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 January 2025 18:24 (eight months ago)
The end of the affair. Enjoying it, six chapters in. I don’t know anything about it, picked it up from a charity shop on the strength of the first paragraph. I haven’t read any Greene since the obligatory Brighton Rock class at uni.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 19 January 2025 17:57 (eight months ago)
YES. I love The End of the Affair so much. Keep us updated please
― gyac, Sunday, 19 January 2025 18:08 (eight months ago)
For one thing, the Catholic path of Affair has many more forks than Brighton Rock's doctrinaire punk (not saying that's not the better novel, but will have to re-read the more controversial, challenging, obsessive Affair, which has Green flair to spare, although it's not so sparing).
― dow, Sunday, 19 January 2025 20:41 (eight months ago)
Greene!
― dow, Sunday, 19 January 2025 20:43 (eight months ago)
Read Judas Priest singer Rob Halford's autobiography, Confess. It's pretty hilarious at times: he talks about glory hole encounters with fans, and about sneaking gay references into Priest lyrics that he only explains/reveals to his bandmates years later ("Jawbreaker" is about a giant cock!), at which point they shrug and say, basically, "Yeah, that tracks." But he also talks a lot about his alcoholism and cocaine addiction (he's been in recovery for close to 40 years) and some pretty tragically fucked-up relationships. He's a smart guy and it's a good book. Definitely worth a read if you're a fan, but even if you're not, you'll learn a lot about an interesting person who's led an interesting life.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 20 January 2025 02:33 (eight months ago)
Picked up Levithan’s ‘Boy Meets Boy’ again, despite my negative first impression, and while I still rolled my eyes more than a few times, there were some moments where the narrator speaks some lovely truths that felt like things I felt and talked about as a teenager. Genuine moments. So, not all bad!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 20 January 2025 03:53 (eight months ago)
Started Memento Mori by Muriel Spark (Hampstead set lady gets anonymous calls reminding her she must die; spiky as always) and A Woman Like Me by Diane Abbott (so far, childhood in Paddington coming from Jamaica, a tale I've read in enough books now that it feels familiar - which is good I think, this is part of the UK's story and should feel like a well trod story).
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 20 January 2025 10:40 (eight months ago)
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For some reason, I'm having a hard time remembering much about Boy Meets Boy, even though I'm sure I read it. But yes, not surprised to hear that Levithan's unevenness (which I spoke about upthread) manifests itself within a single text.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 20 January 2025 13:29 (eight months ago)
Refresher: its narrator has been out since elementary school, he’s just gotten over a weird break-up when he falls for a new kid in town, one of his best friends is a drag queen quarterback named Infinite Darlene, the town is quirky and rainbow-flagged, very northern New Jersey rather than Connecticut but close to NYC.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 20 January 2025 14:06 (eight months ago)
Ahh yes, I remember Infinite Darlene especially. I think this is the one that also begins with a bunch of queer kids gathering at a bookstore on a Friday night. Another thing with Levithan: the characters and even the situations in his novels can be a bit interchangeable. You could have told me that any of those characters/scenarios belonged to Two Boys Kissing (which I liked) and I would've believed you.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 20 January 2025 14:17 (eight months ago)
Yep! Yeah, it has the feel of interchangeability.
Ran out of YA books while others arrive from interlibrary loan, so decided to reread some Genet lmfao. “The Criminal Child” and “Fragments…” remain beautiful and bewildering texts for me in many ways, I can always find something new to ponder in them.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 20 January 2025 14:36 (eight months ago)
I'm most of the way through Earthlings, Sayaka Murata. It starts out playing with the the theme of alienation by having the narrator as a young girl in a dysfunctional family claiming she is from the planet Popinpobopia. It eventually moves into much grimmer territory.
Because I haven't finished it I can't absolutely say for sure that the carefully selected cover blurbs that portray the novel as "hilarious", "joyous", or "intoxicating" are misleading to the point of absurdity, but there's nothing in the first 4/5ths of the book that I'd remotely characterize that way. This is, at its center, a novel about dehumanization and its enormous psychic costs.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 20:20 (eight months ago)
I think of it as Murata's big fuck you novel after Convenience Store Woman became a big success. It only gets grimmer.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 20:22 (eight months ago)
Read a ton of Junji Ito & ordered Remina (Hellstar Remina?) and The Black Paradox to continue. Currently reading Happy Mania by Moyocco Anno which is a kind of proto Sex and The City manga from the late 90s. Pretty fun. Also reread Rosemary’s Baby at the weekend.
― triste et cassé (gyac), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 20:23 (eight months ago)
Ps if I could murder a fictional character it would be Guy Woodhouse
But he was in Luther and Nobody Loves an Albatross
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 20:42 (eight months ago)
Plus the Anacin commercial
― triste et cassé (gyac), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 22:42 (eight months ago)
Ito is like the Agatha Christie of horror manga. He does same thing every time and every time I fall for it.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 23:21 (eight months ago)
Ira Levin: what if husbands were bad (Rosemary’s Baby, The Stepford Wives)Ira Levin: what if Nazis were bad (The Boys from Brazil, reality)Ira Levin: what if…I wrote the worst book of all time (This Perfect Day, Son of Rosemary)
― triste et cassé (gyac), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 23:32 (eight months ago)
On the rec of a friend, I took Denton Welch’s ‘In Youth is Pleasure’ out from the library
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 23:40 (eight months ago)
Ps if I could murder a fictional character it would be Guy Woodhouse― triste et cassé (gyac), Wednesday, 22 January 2025 20:23 (yesterday)
But he was in Luther and Nobody Loves an Albatross― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 20:42 (yesterday)
And a lot of TV commercials.
― clemenza, Thursday, 23 January 2025 01:15 (eight months ago)
robertson davies, fifth business. which is -- and i'm not sure i've ever used this word before -- marvelous
― mookieproof, Thursday, 23 January 2025 03:34 (eight months ago)
Clark Ashton Smith - The Dark Eidolon & Other Fantasies: am only about 5 stories in (just finished ‘City of The Singing Flame’) but I am loving his writing so much. Great fun so far.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2025 04:10 (eight months ago)
Tabes friend otm. Denton Welch rules.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 23 January 2025 08:19 (eight months ago)
Ira Levin: what if husbands were bad (Rosemary’s Baby, The Stepford Wives)
A Kiss Before Dying is good, too.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 23 January 2025 16:02 (eight months ago)
started RED SHIFT, which is pretty fucked up!
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 January 2025 06:22 (eight months ago)
xposts to chinaski— the Welch is so good but almost unbearable— Welch expresses the discomfort, anger, and resentment that Orvil feels so well that it is almost impossible to not be returned to one’s own teenage existence. excellent book.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 24 January 2025 13:06 (eight months ago)
crypto, what are your opinions on Simon James Green? ‘Boy Like Me’ looks up my alley but it is thoroughly unavailable at libraries here, and i don’t want to dole out the cash for it if the work is crap.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 24 January 2025 13:34 (eight months ago)
I don't know him! A quick search though, and it certainly looks fascinating. I'll be tracking it down soon, and I'll report back.
Does your library allow you to make purchase requests? Doesn't mean they'll definitely stock the book, of course, but maybe worth a shot.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 24 January 2025 13:46 (eight months ago)
ah, another for us both to check out, it seems.
you can make purchase requests but it might take a year for anything to come of it. the Free Library of Philadelphia, like everything in this city, moves quite slowly
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 24 January 2025 14:29 (eight months ago)
Excited for YA in this thread! I've been out of the biz and haven't read these titles but it makes me happy that these books exist and are good (and are needed by young people).
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 24 January 2025 14:33 (eight months ago)
what the hell, i just ordered it— i figure that even if i don't like it, i can always put it in a LFL and some gay teen in the neighborhood can find it and enjoy it.
i did read a few reviews of it that were pretty good, as well as one which was hilarious in that it seems to have missed the point entirely— it railed against Green's "political biases and diatribes against Margaret Thatcher," but the book is very much *about* Section 28 and a secret epistolary romance between two young men in the margins of a novel about homosexual men. you can't really write about repression of homosexual representation in 1994 without addressing Thatcherism and Section 28!! (and i know this as a yank!)
perhaps the WAYR thread is not the place for it, but this sort of cognitive dissonance is something i've been thinking about quite a lot recently. so many lite conservative types on both sides of the pond don't seem to have a problem with being gay, but do seem to have quite a problem with gay people speaking out against their own dehumanization at the hands of conservative politicians and "thinkers." i've never quite understood it— seems as bizarre to me as the old "hate the sin, love the sinner" ideology of the church.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 24 January 2025 14:58 (eight months ago)
glad yr down with the YA train, too, io. i'm finding it a rather fruitful exercise in "genre thinking."
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 24 January 2025 14:59 (eight months ago)
I worked in YA publishing for over 10 years! Big fan. I didn't read it as an actual young adult (I skipped from children's books to adult Sci-f) but I've come to appreciate YA a lot in my old age.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 24 January 2025 16:10 (eight months ago)
I hardly read any YA stuff when I was a young adult— other than the SE Hinton books and some of the teen scream stuff from Pike and Stein, I pretty much avoided anything marketed toward my age demographic.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 24 January 2025 16:26 (eight months ago)
Junji Ito’s Gyo. My husband, the Junji Ito fan: “Isn’t there a giant shark in that?” Me, a mere dabbler in the man’s work: “The fish have wheels.”
― triste et cassé (gyac), Friday, 24 January 2025 16:29 (eight months ago)
haven't posted in a longish while. thought i'd update on a few things i've read recently. means it's a longish post uncharacteristically.
Nick Harkaway – GnomonThis was really enjoyable at first - a death - a state murder in custody, after severe mental torture in fact - in a highly informationally controlled future (a zero crime, full mental transparency set up), the individual in question surrounding themselves with layered multi-timezone stories as a sort of firewall against their true identity. An investigator going further and further down into the layers of conspiracy and as she does so unravelling her trust in the state. Not wildly original in that sense, but dials the nonsense and complexity up to 11. Noirish, bit cyberpunk, bit silly, fun. But it really unravelled in the final third, and badly needed some ruthless editing and authorial discipline. Also as a consequence waaaaay too long.
Tudor Parfitt – Hybrid Hate: Conflations of Antisemitism and Anti-Black Racism from the Renaissance to the Third Reich Strong piece of academic writing on the construction of race and - well, what the subtitle says really. One dynamic that I always find fascinating – the battle of 'incorrect' religious assumptions about race - 'monogenetic' from Adam, inclusive of all types - versus 'scientific' thinking at the progressive frontier of knowledge: secular and constructing a theory of separate 'races' ie f'ing racist. even when it is in good faith the minutiae of academic wrangling does not widen its scope to recognise the motivational impulses of wider economic and political desire with which its 'reason' is operating - such things are as it were 'baked in' to the theorising. Paul Hazard's *Crises of the European Mind: 1680-1715* also illustrates this very clearly obviously, that period being the crucible of so much enlightenment and secular thinking and knowledge.
Lisa Robertson – Baudelaire Fractal. Opened it up and cried out 'Oh god, not another 'I' book' by which i don't just mean written in the first person, but one most concerned with the internal experiences and psychological/emotional responses of the narrator. So much of it. I picked up a VS Pritchett short story during the middle of reading this and you're in the presence of this tensile prose, being crafted right in the middle of the world and of people. the constraints of the inner sensational life are rarely defined enough for the prose not to feel slack, too little is required of it, of the author. Still, on what I got through, this was a much better 'internal life consumed by an œuvre' book than that one that did the same with Shakespeare's sonnets. i might pick it up again, but i weary of the mode.
Jill Lepore - These TruthsSingle-volume history of the US, picked up mainly because my knowledge of US history and its order and general sweep is shameful - i've got most of the bits, but how do the bits fit together. And this is v good for that, though I think the latter part is pulled out of shape by a disproportionate concern with polling, the media, and the political manipulation of public opinion. more generally 19th century demagoguery and hucksterism is a useful template for today - wacko religious and social extremists hopping on a train and whipping up crowds in halls. It's also highly useful to see the evolution of political coalitions, and be reminded that politically speaking 'left' and 'right' as European terms aren't that helpful as guides to how the political values are distributed in the US, or be reminded that terms like 'progressive' have a specific historical context and meaning. and ofc it's 'useful' to be reminded for just how long, in what different forms, and how intensely racial equality has been violently beaten down, socially and politically evaded, and how any legal and constitutional remedies are manipulated via a self-serving casuistry or just torn down by largely white male political and financial interests, whose method is to create racial resentment out of economic circumstance. nothing new, but by god it's a long, unfinished story.
Elizabeth Hand – Generation LossReally enjoyed this. Self-destructive, slightly psychic nihilism as route to the heart of a crime. I think one of the main reasons I enjoyed it is that the genre wasn't clear to me for a long time – crime thriller, the supernatural, realism, a psychodrama woven round digital and photographic aesthetics: all are held in a sort of suspended potential for much of the novel, which is impressive and brings a strong sense of tension - you're not sure which way anything or anyone's going to go. the alien, slightly malevolent Maine coastline in winter has the flavour of Lovecraft, people generally are dangerous psychically or actually. The main character Cass Neary's voice is vivid and appealing - as most reviews have shown it's hard not to use the word 'spiky'. the resolution is a little formulaic - those tensions have to get resolved in the end after all and the novel itself acknowledges its rather silence of the lambs dénoument. i probably would have preferred a sort of unresolved realism, but the whole was definitely good. looking forward to the further planned reissues in the series.
Robertson Davies – What's Bred in the BoneReally excellent. Preferred it in fact to *The Rebel Angels* - the first in the Cornish series, which was very enjoyable but too much facetious in the end for me. What's Bred in the Bone concerns the life of Francis Cornish, whose death set off the events of the first volume. Davies is excellent at capturing a sense of the press of magic and religious thinking into the real world. I think it was Tom E on bsky who was asking about a good book for one of his children to go to from their regular fantasy reading, and the Deptford trilogy was one of his suggestions. They do the inverse of the best children's fantasy, where the world of magic is easily available and accessible (for a child and under certain circumstances). In these novels it isn't accessible, but the characters exist in a place where you can feel its press on the contours of their lives.
Its expressed in one way and in rather a bluff manner by Cornish's Catholic grandfather in a deathbed letter:
Another language is something I won't call religion, because all through my life I have been a firm Catholic, without truly accepting everything a Catholic ought to believe. So I cannot urge you sincerely to cling to the Faith. But con't forget it, either. Don't forget that language, and don't be one of those handless fellows who believes nothing. There is a fine world unknown to us, and religion is an attempt to explain it.
but there's a really delightfully realised figure, more in the Roberston Davies mode, and putting the same thing in very different terms, derived from the workings of the just pre-WW2 *Schloß* Cornish is staying in, refurbishing and not-quite-faking-or-is-it paintings as apprentice to an Italian art restorer possessed of the Evil Eye in a complicated fraud on the Nazis.
"But as a wise man I know – or knew, for the poor fellow is dead now – used to say, Life's a rum start.""The very rummest. Like this room in a way. Here we are, cosy as can be, even if we have no focus. What makes us so snug?""The stove, obviously.""Yes, but have you never thought what makes the stove so warm?""I've wondered – yes. How is it fed?""That's one of the interesting things about these old castles. Dividing all the main rooms are terribly narrow passages – not more than eighteen inches wide, some of them, and as dark as night – and through those corridors creep servants in soft slippers who poke firewood into these stoves from the back. Unseen by us, and usually unheard. We don't give them a thought, but they are there, and they keep life in winter from being intolerable. Do they listen to us? I'll bet they do. They keep us warm, they are necessary to us, and they probably know a lot more about us than we would consider comfortable. They are the hidden life of the house.""A spooky idea.""The whole Universe is a spooky idea. And in every life there are these unseen people and – not people exactly – who keep us warm. – Have you ever had your horoscope cast?"
That world is perhaps not so 'fine'. The slippered silent figures rushing about in the darkness and confined passages around our lives, attending to it in invisible ways, impossible that they be wholly benign. Davies is v good at this sort of thing, exploring the transactional layer between the mundane and the spiritual, and of course similarly in The Fifth Business, the spiritual role of figures to one side of a central action.
The book is also extremely good about the political importance of and centrality of art, no less free from machinations than the rest of the world. And generally the writing is just extremely enjoyable.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Sunday, 26 January 2025 12:07 (eight months ago)
And this is v good for that, though I think the latter part is pulled out of shape by a disproportionate concern with polling, the media, and the political manipulation of public opinion
I enjoyed it a lot too, just as a single volume synthesis of US history. I think she's a good prose stylist. but I'm much less keen on her essays for the New Yorker.
your criticism makes since given her own recent research has focussed on the history of social science/opinion polling etc. she wrote a book about it. excerpted here https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/08/03/how-the-simulmatics-corporation-invented-the-future but you couldn't pay me to read it.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 January 2025 14:23 (eight months ago)
ah right, that's interesting caek - thanks. the prose does get out of control sometimes, when it aims for a high style it doesn't work. but yes, extremely handy summary and generally very readable.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Sunday, 26 January 2025 15:00 (eight months ago)
just going back thru thread, pleased to see mentions of Denton Welch - such a strange writer, in a period that produced some quite strange rich writing - those non-modernist 20thC inheritors of fin-de-siecle obsessions. denton welch has a fine sense of style and irony, which helps leaven it all as well.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Sunday, 26 January 2025 15:05 (eight months ago)
Y'all have sold me on Welch. I just ordered the handsome-looking Penguin Classics edition of In Youth There's Pleasure.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 26 January 2025 15:47 (eight months ago)
a problem i have with him is whenever i hear his name or see peppers or pimentos i'm reminded of this entry from his diaries:
Last Monday I went to supper with Noel Adeney. We had cold soup flavoured with claret, and fennel in long green shreds; then a sort of pilau of rice, onions fried, pimento excitingly scarlet like dogs’ tools, and grated cheese. The tiniest new potatoes and salad. Afterwards plums, and creamy mild tomato cocktail to drink.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Sunday, 26 January 2025 15:58 (eight months ago)
Fizzles, Robertson is a mentor of mine and I can’t disagree with you more about ‘TBF,’ but understand that it isn’t for everyone.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 26 January 2025 18:43 (eight months ago)
Had to scroll back to realize table wasn't talking about Robertson Davies (who's great, btw).
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 26 January 2025 18:44 (eight months ago)
Ha. Yes, the Welch is really wonderful, the final scene is extraordinary.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 26 January 2025 18:46 (eight months ago)
After setting Henry James aside for 3 or 4 years, I've started reading What Maisie Knew. This novel has been described on ILB as a litmus test for whether a reader will cotton to the writing style in James's late period. So far it's not looking good for the happiness of our future relationship. While I'm appreciating the delicacy of his observations and intricacies of his prose on a certain level, I'm finding the effort required has not yet been adequately repaid in terms of my interest in the story being told. I may lose the struggle and move on to other pastures. I'll decide tonight.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 26 January 2025 19:07 (eight months ago)
I took a whole Henry James class in grad school and thus have been able to conclude that the only James I like is The Ambassadors; there's a warmth and humor to it that I haven't been able to find in the rest of his work.
― Lily Dale, Sunday, 26 January 2025 21:41 (eight months ago)
I'm finally reading Sophie Lewis's Abolish the Family after listening to eleventy podcast episodes with her yay!
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 26 January 2025 23:55 (eight months ago)
I know that title was chosen for shock value, but... on its face it's stupid. Marketing is like that.
Families are more diverse, more complex, and more entwined with how humans have always lived than whatever version of the family that book is meant to address.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 27 January 2025 03:49 (eight months ago)
Lol from what I know of the contents of that book its not really marketing.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2025 08:58 (eight months ago)
Halfway through: Antonio do Benedetto - The Suicides.
A journalist investigates a number of suicides which is a launchpad for an interest in the subject. The author himself was jailed sometime later (he was tortured in prison). This was Argentina just before the military coup but it doesn't reference what is going on in the country. You may infer that this isn't a happy place but if you didn't have context you wouldn't reach for anything.
The contents might be unhappy but the writing is making me very happy.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2025 09:10 (eight months ago)
Antonio di Benedetto. Bloody autocorrect.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2025 09:23 (eight months ago)
Lewis is an execrable human being, too, but that’s neither here nor there . (We were friends, once).
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 27 January 2025 12:11 (eight months ago)
crypto (and other interested parties), Simon James Green’s ‘Boy Like Me’ is really good so far— will report more when I have it finished.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 27 January 2025 12:51 (eight months ago)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 26 January 2025 18:43 bookmarkflaglink
right! i should have been clearer that actually i quite enjoyed TBF, which i thought was clever and well put together - it just suffered from being at the end of a long list of books written with that highly internal perspective. a very good example of the straw that broke the camel's back. in other circumstances i think i would have relished it! but your comment has prompted me to promise to myself i will actually finish it at some point.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Monday, 27 January 2025 13:35 (eight months ago)
Ahhhh that's disappointing to hear, table. I'm going to enjoy the book anyway, but to hear that definitely chills my general enthusiasm for her.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 27 January 2025 13:51 (eight months ago)
i mean, many of our most interesting thinkers have been totally awful people. Lewis is certainly an interesting thinker, imho! that was one of the reasons we initially hit it off. i won’t air any more of what happened between us, though.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:27 (eight months ago)
and xpost to Fizzles, yes, that’s totally understandable. if you haven’t read other Robertson, i think the best entrée to her prose writing is ‘Occasional Work and Seven Walks from the Office for Soft Architecture.’ The essays there on suburbs, public space, and ‘the idea of the hut’ are incredible, imho— and that’s to say nothing of her poetry, which often borders on the sublime. Here is an early version of one of my favorite poems of hers:
http://jacketmagazine.com/27/robe.html
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:38 (eight months ago)
thanks table, sounds great - will check out.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Monday, 27 January 2025 16:25 (eight months ago)
I shelved What Maisie Knew. It felt too much like being fed by a person using a tweezers instead of a spoon. Instead I picked up Hill, the English title given to the first published novel of Jean Giono. This is the NYRB edition from 2016.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 27 January 2025 18:47 (eight months ago)
I gave up on Gnomon pretty early on; it didn't seem to be going anywhere, and wasn't even going nowhere in an interesting way. Felt like a puzzle for the sake of a puzzle.
Finished Bryan Burrough's Days of Rage (a history of radical terrorism in the US from roughly 1969-1984) this weekend. It's good; he seems pretty conservative himself but keeps it in check for the most part, other than the occasional excessive rhetorical flourish (describing someone as "stringy-haired" or getting sniffy about commune members all swapping partners back and forth). The FBI don't exactly cover themselves in glory, and he doesn't bend over backward to defend them.
Also read Daniel Spicer's brand new biography of Peter Brötzmann. It's pretty good, though I would have appreciated more info about his childhood and the overall social context of German free jazz. There's plenty of that in Christoph Dallasch's Neu Klang, though, including plenty of quotes from the Brotz himself. Harald Kisiedu's European Echoes: Jazz Experimentalism In Germany 1950-1975 also fills in some gaps. But Spicer had a relationship (journalistic and somewhat friendly) with PB going back 20+ years, including many interviews, and he talked to plenty of bandmates, too. Recommended if you're a fan; I'll be writing an essay-length review for my newsletter eventually.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 28 January 2025 05:34 (eight months ago)
Oh wow thanks for the Robertson poem, tables. "an early version"! Seems appropriate for turns herein.
― dow, Tuesday, 28 January 2025 22:34 (eight months ago)
I picked up a VS Pritchett short story during the middle of reading this and you're in the presence of this tensile prose, being crafted right in the middle of the world and of people. the constraints of the inner sensational life are rarely defined enough for the prose not to feel slack, too little is required of it, of the author.
What I get sick of is the I that explains every goddam thing, of a multitude (unless I'm sincerely trying to read myself to sleep), and the one that makes too big deal of being Unreliable, like they just invented it.
― dow, Tuesday, 28 January 2025 23:43 (eight months ago)
Finished Simon James Green’s ‘Boy Like Me,’ which details a relationship between two boys that starts in the margins of an illicitly held school library book about gay teen romance during the time of section 28 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28)
It then becomes a real life romance and a truly beautiful, enraging book about love and resistance to bigotry and those in power who would have us queers shut up in closets. Best queer YA book I have read, hands-down— made me weep, particularly as it acknowledges the fact that this history hasn’t gone away. Well worth the time.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 02:47 (eight months ago)
crypto, you really must read it.
Anyway, now onto Édouard Louis’ ‘The End of Eddy.’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 02:49 (eight months ago)
Just put a hold on it at the library. Thanks!
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 12:49 (eight months ago)
Just ordered Eleanor Barraclough's Embers of the Hands: Hidden Histories of the Viking Age, which appears to be detailed examination of quotidian household objects retrieved from Viking settlements (they were really into combing their hair, apparently).
There's a new Thomas Perry book out, Pro Bono. I like Perry a lot, but his stuff is pure snack food; I go through them in a couple of hours, so I might buy that as an ebook.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 21:59 (eight months ago)
Halfway through: Antonio do Benedetto - The Suicides.A journalist investigates a number of suicides which is a launchpad for an interest in the subject. The author himself was jailed sometime later (he was tortured in prison). This was Argentina just before the military coup but it doesn't reference what is going on in the country. You may infer that this isn't a happy place but if you didn't have context you wouldn't reach for anything.The contents might be unhappy but the writing is making me very happy.
― the babality of evil (wins), Thursday, 30 January 2025 18:44 (seven months ago)
I finished the Jean Giono book. In addition to the story and characters, it retains a kind of anthropological interest, capturing aspects of an older peasant worldview that has shifted as country life lost its isolation and self-containment.
Now I'm reading Storm of Steel, Ernst Jünger. If you've read any of the novels or memoirs about life in the WWI trenches nothing in it will come as a surprise or shock. It's hard to imagine a grimmer war. It's main virtue is its lack of analysis. It doesn't attempt to impose any bigger framework outside the immediate battlefield. It stays faithful to how war looks, smells, tastes and feels to a foot soldier.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 30 January 2025 19:06 (seven months ago)
Finished the Muriel Spark. Gripping and darkly funny but boy it's a bleak world she portrays.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 31 January 2025 14:02 (seven months ago)
Bible & Sword Barbara Tuchmanthis book is seriously in need of decolonisation. But comes from 1956 so wonder if that is simply predictable.It's a book on the connection between Britain and Palestine over the centuries. It starts in the Roman era and traces pilgrimage and influence over the time to the author's current day.Author has some nice turn of phrase which means I might read some of her later work. She lists a bibliography so did at least some research. But what is conspicuously absent is an arab or other indigenous population perspective. She refers to the enemy during the crusades as Turk.She views Palestine mainly as the ideal home place of the Jews and the indigenous population as movable to fit the Jews return.I thought this might be a good way of seeing the historic perspective of the British over time. I think it does that to some degree but I'm never sure to what extent the perspective belongs to the author.So would love to find a similar overview from a perspective that was less positive about colonialism and more aware of indigenous and non-Western perspectives. I think this book is relatively well known so it has presumably occurred to somebody to provide a similar work.So I've read it and can see some rather deep flaws while having enjoyed it to some extent.
We wish to inform you that tomorrow we will be killed with our families : stories from Rwanda Philip Gourevitch,book telling the story of the Rwanda genocide through anecdotal means concerning a cast of characters.Quite great, I'm halfway through it.and think its pretty good.
Neu Klang Christoph DallachOral history of Krautrock. Starting with the childhood context of several of the players and the Second World War and its wake.It follows them through the next couple of decades and cultural innovations.So I'm still in the era before the Krautrock scene itself has begun, and the Beat era hasn't been looked at in depth yet.Looking forward to reading through this and hopefully being turned onto more sounds I'm not familiar with from a genre I've been somewhat aware of for decades.
Two Headed Doctor David Toopan exploration into Dr John's Gris Gris lp . Looks into biography and prior of the lp itself and the various players on it. Also looks into the history of New Orleans and the lore tied into voudun and other beliefs that are referenced in the songs.Also serves as something of a memoir of the time Toop was first connecting to the music.[show hidden text]Very very interesting book on one of my fav lps. Has me wanting to read the rest of Toop's work.
New Ugly Things turned up at the start of the week and I have read part of the review sections and not really got into the articles.
― Stevo, Friday, 31 January 2025 14:20 (seven months ago)
Speaking of bleak, I am almost through Édouard Louis’ ‘The End of Eddy’ and it is a wildly grim depiction of northern French country life, told from the perspective of a young queer man looking back on his upbringing. The book caused some controversy in France, it seems. Anyway, the prose can be a little plodding at times, but then erupt with moments like the following:
‘Each day was a new ordeal: people don't change as easily as that. I wasn't the tough guy that I wanted to be.And yet I had understood that living a lie was the only chance I had of bringing a new truth into existence. Becoming a different person meant thinking of myself as a different person, believing I was something I wasn't so that gradually, step by step, I could become it. (The calls to conform would come later: Who does he think he is?)’
It’s a familiar misconception, right? But the bluntness with which Louis writes these sorts of bits is quite great, and the book’s strongest suit imho.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 31 January 2025 14:20 (seven months ago)
wonder if I missed this on January 7th and today cos I was looking for a What Are You Reading or simply Reading through the search engine
― Stevo, Friday, 31 January 2025 14:33 (seven months ago)
this month was tidying up things so i finished the final third of my Laurie Lee trilogy about the spanish war, the last four Euripedes tragedies (Buckley translations, which annoyingly used the roman names for the gods), and a bunch of lafferty and cyberpunk shorts.
― koogs, Friday, 31 January 2025 15:05 (seven months ago)
Perelman, The Trouble with GeniusGallagher, Kaboom
― alimosina, Friday, 31 January 2025 17:27 (seven months ago)
book telling the story of the Rwanda genocide
Check out Peterson and Herman, Enduring Lies
― alimosina, Friday, 31 January 2025 17:52 (seven months ago)
A load of my library transfers came in— reading the book that was made into the gay teen drama ‘Love, Simon.’ I have seen the movie, weirdly on a flight back in 2018, but I am interested in seeing what the book does.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 31 January 2025 22:31 (seven months ago)
I like (not love) Simon in both book and movie form. I tried Becky Albertalli's latest--the title has already slipped my mind--last year and couldn't get through it, but it looks like she's been basically writing variations on Simon ever since.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 31 January 2025 22:36 (seven months ago)
yeah, i can sort of see how this one goes— i think maybe I will dislike this one because I hate Simon’s voice? it feels just a bit too ‘adult woman trying to approximate teenage boy’ for me.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 31 January 2025 23:43 (seven months ago)
I liked Simon by the end of the book, but still thought it was a little too ‘middle aged woman approximating teenage gay boy voice.’
Then I began ‘Openly Straight’ around 8p, read it until 11:30, then finished it this morning. I thought it was really lovely and empathized with Rafe, the protagonist, and his struggles against what he felt were the strictures of ‘gay identity’ or whatever. I think my main problem was that I really liked his relationship with Ben, and wanted to see whether it was rekindled… but I guess that’s what the sequel is for. Another to put on the library holds.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 February 2025 14:45 (seven months ago)
Isaac Deutscher - The Prophet ArmedCarrie Courogen - Miss May Does Not Exist: The Life and Work of Elaine May, Hollywood’s Hidden GeniusMavis Gallant - The Uncollected Stories
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2025 14:52 (seven months ago)
Yay! I'm looking forward to teaching the novel again in a few weeks.
And yes, the sequel is definitely worth a read. Report back!
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 1 February 2025 14:54 (seven months ago)
Next up is Phil Stamper’s first book, ‘The Gravity of Us.’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 February 2025 16:27 (seven months ago)
Read his Golden Boys a while back. Don't remember it being anything special, plot or character wise, but some of the opening chapters beautifully capture that feeling of high school ending and you and your friends going your separate ways. After that, I seem to recall it turning into a pretty typical romcom.
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 1 February 2025 18:40 (seven months ago)
Yeah, honestly just going through a list and learning more about the genre as I go.
Among the things I really like about ‘Boy Like Me,’ ‘Openly Straight,’ and the second iteration of ‘Aristotle and Dante…’ is that they don’t shy away from a few more sexual moments— which is not always the case with these books. They obviously can’t be *too* sexy or detailed, duh, but in ‘Simon’ and a few others I read, there just isn’t much mention of sex at all. I wouldn’t say this is a problem, really, except that it’s completely unrealistic— teenagers, especially teenage boys, are the horniest beings on the planet, and I don’t even recall a scene in Simon where he jerks off! So sure, tame the sex scenes and make them PG or PG-13, let them be one or two sentences long, which is certainly what I am doing in the YA novel I am writing, but don’t remove them entirely. Teenagers are sexual! Don’t write that out, they can take it! I certainly longer for those sorts of scenes when I was a teenager.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 February 2025 19:17 (seven months ago)
‘longed for’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 February 2025 19:18 (seven months ago)
But the bluntness with which Louis writes these sorts of bits is quite great, and the book’s strongest suit imho
His style is very understated and tough, kind of Hemingwayesque, in the way it can limn complex emotional states in disarmingly simple prose. Its almost like the ideal of masculinity that he felt so constricting growing up remained in his writing style, even as he evicted it from all other parts of his life.
― o. nate, Saturday, 1 February 2025 19:23 (seven months ago)
Teenagers are sexual! Don’t write that out, they can take it!
and give it
(sorry)
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2025 19:27 (seven months ago)
I finished the Friedrich Schiller "On the Aesthetic Education of Man". It was rather high-flown and bewildering after the relatively direct and plain-spoken style of Bergson. I don't feel I got much out of it. I'm also still reading the Alice Munro story collection. I think I read one or two of her stories in the New Yorker back in the day, where many of these stories originally appeared, but I don't remember them being so good. Maybe I was too young to appreciate them. She is brilliant on how she handles the passage of time.
― o. nate, Saturday, 1 February 2025 19:33 (seven months ago)
Its almost like the ideal of masculinity that he felt so constricting growing up remained in his writing style, even as he evicted it from all other parts of his life.
Yeah, I would agree with this, and it totally works in that it’s a little disarming!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 February 2025 20:37 (seven months ago)
Just put the books on hold at the library. Thanks.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2025 22:21 (seven months ago)
I bought the Cemetery Boys thanks to the thread. Will report back.
I'm re-reading J.A. Baker's *The Peregrine*. It's a strange book. Baker was an introverted man, working for the AA, who, in his spare time, stalked peregrines across the Dengie Peninsula in an isolated corner of Essex. Not that you'd know it from the text because Baker is oddly obscure about his chosen area of focus.
The text operates as a space of preservation: Baker recognises that the land is changing; farming conditions are choking the life out of the area and the peregrines are dying off. He aims to become one with the land, as he puts it 'to lose the human taint'. As such, there are a lot of subject-less sentences, as Baker paints impressionistic vistas of land and sky. He aims for alchemy - words becoming place, landscape. In places he overshoots but it's a hell of a trick when it works. In some ways what he describes could be any era; in places, it feels pre-or-post-human in the sheer abundance of bird life. I dimly recall some of what he encounters - the swarms of swifts, globes of insects above oaks trees - and absolutely feel the absence of it.
The peregrine's view of the land is like the yachtsman's view of the shore as he sails into the long estuaries. A wake of water recedes behind him, the wake of the pierced horizon glides back on either side. Like the seafarer, the peregrine lives in a pouring-away world of no attachment, a world of wakes and tilting, of sinking planes of land and water. We who are anchored and earthbound cannot envisage this freedom of the eye. The peregrine sees and remembers patterns we do not know exist: the neat squares of orchard and woodland, the endlessly varying quadrilateral shapes of fields. He finds his way across the land by a succession of remembered symmetries. But what does he understand? Does he really 'know' that an object that increases in size is moving towards him? Or is it that he believes in the size he sees, so that a distant man is too small to be frightening but a man near is a man huge and therefore terrifying? He may live in a world of endless pulsations, of objects forever contracting or dilating in size. Aimed at a distant bird, a flutter of white wings, he may feel as it spreads out beneath him like a stain of white - that he can never fail to strike. Everything he is has been evolved to link the targeting eye to the striking talon.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 February 2025 22:47 (seven months ago)
Also started Katherine Rundell's *Super-Infinite*, a biography of John Donne. She's in an ecstatic register too but is quite up-front about the book being something of a hagiography. It zips along; I'm enjoying it.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 February 2025 22:49 (seven months ago)
Things I picked up from the library today:
Tom Breihan's The Number Ones: Twenty Chart-Topping Hits That Reveal the History of Pop Music (Breihan's a fellow Stereogum writer and a friend)John D. MacDonald's Bright Orange For the ShroudMilton Mayer's They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 2 February 2025 03:39 (seven months ago)
i've had to put down the confessions by catherine airey. there was a particular line, which I can't find now, which made me feel very strongly that it wasn't worth putting any more effort into reading. one thing - if your 2001 NYC teenager, and your 1970s Irish farming teenage girl, moving to NYC sound *exactly* the same apart from a shift in grammatical voice then I think it's a problem. these people should be exciting! and they are put in exciting or dramatic situations (eg inadvertently drop acid just before the twin towers). but the style - you can see the author very visibly behind the pasteboard masks. it's also extremely banal (a horrible word, but there it is). frankly i found myself longing for a bit of martin amis, and it's not often you hear me say that, but come on, let's have some *fireworks*. it's invidious really to quote quite innocuous excerpts, as this sort of thing is very unfair in isolation,
‘What can I get you both?’ ‘I’ll have the poached eggs, please,’ Harold says, though you’re sure he never looked down at his menu. ‘I’m not really hungry,’ you say, which isn’t true, but you’ve been putting on weight from all the pancakes, said you’d give them up for Lent. ‘You eat eggs?’ Harold asks. He looks back at the waitress before you have a chance to answer. ‘Two poached eggs. And coffee.’ ‘Perfect.’ The waitress takes the menu back from Harold then walks back towards the bar.
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It simply won't do. It really won't. dow - apologies, I didn't answer your question upthread about Pritchett, and i'm not really in a position to now, as i can't find my copy of the Baudelaire Fractal (which I must insist was actually *ok* - especially in its pleasing and synthetic conceit - just at the tail end of reading a lot that has a similar texture or approach).
but i did think it was worth quoting the Pritchett I read, or part of it, at least in part to bring some enjoyment to my posts - i'm cavilling and carping a lot, which gets tedious very quickly. This is from the start of a story A Careless Widow:
After taking a two-mile walk across fields half-way up the headland, to break himself in, as he put it, on the first day of his holiday, Frazier got back to the hotel. He had a bath to get the last of London off his skin, then, avoiding the bar already crowded with golf players, he went out on to the terrace to be alone. He had been coming to this hotel for three or four years in the spring, a man who liked to stay in a place full of middle-aged people, many of them so well-known to one another that it was simple for him to avoid them and to be alone. Off he went to walk all day; off they went to the golf course or to drive about in their cars. If he was slightly known it was by his surname: 'Frazier with an"i" he would say with a piercing pedantic stare, giving a roll to his stone-blue eyes as he said it, like a tall schoolmaster mocking a boy. He was, in fact, a hairdresser who came to this lonely part of the Atlantic coast to slough off the name of Lionel, as he was called at the rather expensive *salon de coiffure* in London, where he was eagerly sought after. ('You know,' ladies said, 'how difficult it is to get an appointment with Lionel.') He was a tallish, slender man, not one of your sunken-chested barbers, gesticulating with comb and scissors as they skate about you, grown cynical with the flatteries of the trade. On the contrary, despite his doll's head of grey hair and the mesh of nervous lines on his long face, he was as still and as dispassionate as a soldier.
I'm not even sure this is a first-rate Pritchett short story tbh - it's been a long time since I immersed myself in his Collected. But this was electrifying. First there is just a sense of fresh air of being outside the subject's head. Not entirely of course - but this is a writer who has absolute discipline and control over the boundaries, of the action and meaning of each individual sentence. So, 'to break himself in, *as he put it*, on the first day of his holiday,' which then allows further on, 'to get the last of London off his skin' without need to label this as his internal intent. There are no Amis style fireworks here of course; you'd almost call the writing plain, but it is emphatically not banal. There are traces of humour of course, as this is Pritchett. I particularly liked 'or to drive about in their cars.' Each sentence is in some way revelatory, either in establishing important matters - who he is, where he's from, and that this is a regular, well grooved experience for him (and therefore capable of dramatic disruption - immediately there is a tension - also from the fact that people do odd things when they detatch themselves from their day-to-day professional and social life) - or in surprising you - the fact he is a hairdresser. plus there is sharp insight of 'grown cynical with the flatteries of the trade' - an observation that has general human application, wider than just barbers. we feel it. this, in a microscopic way, is what real humanism is, and is part of why we read.
This is writing on a hair trigger, to paraphrase Geoffrey Hill*. Therefore it defines 'slack' - to finally get round to answering your question, dow - through being its opposite.
i'm really very firmly of the belief expressed in Éric Vuillard's L'ordre du jour** 'La littérature permet tout, dit-on'. You can, to put it as i do to myself more frequently, do whatever the hell you want with fiction, that's part of the point of it. but it needs to be done well, otherwise why bother reading it.***
* He actually said 'this is language on a hair trigger' in his lecture "Legal Fiction" and Legal Fiction - because he's talking about the incredible pressures on language in intense political situations (he's talking about Robert Southwell's 1595 An humble supplication to her Maiestie, the year of his martyrdom), specifically what the word 'deem' is doing in various bits of prose. So this is more an IA Richards or Empsonian observation (eg in The Structure of Complex Words) and I'm not quite sure the Pritchett is quite so 'hair trigger' as all that, but it is *writing*, it is proper *writing*.
** I've just picked this up again, but in French, partly to practice, but also because one of its main scenes, the opening scene, is how German capital paid willing, approving obeisance to Göring and Hitler. I liked this book - a récit as Vuillard would have it - a sort of visibly authorial guided tour of a subject - though I liked his similar War of the Poor substantially less, feeling it was playing fast and loose with its matter, which retrospectively undermined my appreciation of L'ordre du jour. In other words, I'm sympathetic to this TLS review(£), which concludes:
This is not enlightening as history. At best it tells us what we already know in somewhat caricatural form. Nor is it memorable as literature, except perhaps to someone who knows nothing about the 1930s. But it did win the Prix Goncourt.
However, I still like it, mainly because I am an *absolute sucker* for this sort of thing:
Le soleil est un astre froid. Son cœur, des épines de glace. Sa lumière, sans pardon. En février, les arbres sont morts, la rivière pétrifiée, comme si la source ne vomissait plus d'eau et que la mer ne pouvait en avaler davantage. Le temps se fige. Le matin, pas un bruit, pas un chant d'oiseau, rien. Puis, une automobile, une autre, et soudain des pas, des silhouettes qu'on ne peut pas voir. Le régisseur a frappé trois coups mais le rideau ne s'est pas levé.(The sun is a cold star. Its heart, spines of ice. Its light, unforgiving. In February, the trees are dead, the river petrified, as if the springs had stopped spewing water and the sea could swallow no more. Time freezes. In the morning, not a sound, not even birdsong. Then an automobile, and another, and suddenly footsteps, unseen silhouettes. The play is about to begin, but the curtain won’t rise.)
(The sun is a cold star. Its heart, spines of ice. Its light, unforgiving. In February, the trees are dead, the river petrified, as if the springs had stopped spewing water and the sea could swallow no more. Time freezes. In the morning, not a sound, not even birdsong. Then an automobile, and another, and suddenly footsteps, unseen silhouettes. The play is about to begin, but the curtain won’t rise.)
That spectral start. Those cadences. Plug it into my veins. Possibly in its own gallic manner this is as facile as the prose about which I'm grumbling, which again is only to say what should be obvious - that it's really always in the end about what you enjoy, not apodictic notions of 'good' or 'bad' writing.
*** When i set out to free myself from what i felt was a stifling pre-occupation with the classics, the broad graduate canon, and read more that was happening now, I recognised this would mean reading more that was not so good, mediocre or even downright dross, and that when reading i should, as well as responding to the less good, make a conscious effort to identify what succeeded, what was interesting or good. i'm not doing that at the moment, and i should try harder, i think, but as i say, right now, i'm not in the mood, and am a bit exasperated.
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Sunday, 2 February 2025 11:05 (seven months ago)
incidentally, while speaking about things i've enjoyed and 'language on a hair trigger,' I picked up Gillian Rose's The Broken Middle. Now as I'm not even close to being even an amateur Hegelian, not even a hegelian e-girl, and it's been a long while since I've engaged with Kierkegaard, i'm having to step lightly through it so i don't get entangled and never emerge again. this means the chief delight is the sheer briskness with which she approaches her subject, almost to the point of bullying it to give up insight and establish a footing.
just from the introduction (i'm only halfway through Chapter 1 and 'may be some time'), her description of the replacement of 'knowledge with discourses', critique with 'plurality', conceptuality with 'the Other' as being "intellectual velleities" insufficient to the task, brought a shout of laughter. it seemed particularly applicable to our time. not you will understand, due to that thread of anti-continental philosophy that does anti-intellectual spadework for the anti-woke movement, but an casting that energetic irritation into indeterminate vacillations of public expression and public thought that get subsumed into 'ah! the discourse!' (i realise i'm plugging very technical into very demotic uses of terms here, but on the basis there is overlap, after all - surely this is one thing we *can* learn from the hegelian e-girls it's that transactions between the universal and the particular are being subjected to a massive DDOS attack and we need to shut everything down until we figure out what the hell is going on).
also enjoyed Rose's 'philosophy of history is seen to be continuous, narratological confection of paralogical discontinuities' which is one reason why i like for instance the visible reasoning of a Braudel, and mistrust in many ways, despite him being one of the few genuine and in so many ways admirable public intellectuals, Adam Tooze - swap out 'continuous narratological confection of paralogical discontinuities' for 'polycrisis' and 'ordoliberal-marxist dialectic'
― sur le pont donkey kong (Fizzles), Sunday, 2 February 2025 11:37 (seven months ago)
Started the Phil Stamper debut, gave up after about 40 pages. I hate reality TV and don’t care much for NASA, and the narrator keeps using the term “American Hero,” which makes me want to vomit, so no thanks.
Started ‘Golden Boys’— much more interesting cast of characters, tho who knows what I will think in 100 pages.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 February 2025 12:39 (seven months ago)
I was looking for a What Are You Reading or simply Reading through the search engine
That's why this thread should at least have "Reading" spelled out in the title.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 2 February 2025 15:52 (seven months ago)
Good point, Halfway. Hadn't thought of that.
Booming posts, Fizzles!
'to get the last of London off his skin'
When i set out to free myself from what i felt was a stifling pre-occupation with the classics, the broad graduate canon,
i realise i'm plugging very technical into very demotic uses of terms here, but on the basis there is overlap, after all - surely this is one thing we *can* learn from the hegelian e-girls it's that transactions between the universal and the particular are being subjected to a massive DDOS attack and we need to shut everything down until we figure out what the hell is going on).
― dow, Monday, 3 February 2025 01:30 (seven months ago)
Goncourt
― dow, Monday, 3 February 2025 01:33 (seven months ago)
xxxp etc
He aims for alchemy - words becoming place, landscape. In places he overshoots but it's a hell of a trick when it works. In some ways what he describes could be any era; in places, it feels pre-or-post-human in the sheer abundance of bird life. I dimly recall some of what he encounters - the swarms of swifts, globes of insects above oaks trees - and absolutely feel the absence of it.
― dow, Monday, 3 February 2025 01:49 (seven months ago)
TLM is walking around--
― dow, Monday, 3 February 2025 01:51 (seven months ago)
I finished Acceptance/third Southern Reach book. Didn't enjoy it as much as the first two. Found it hard to stay focused during the middle third, dragged a bit for me. I'll probably wait a bit before attempting the fourth.
Started Prophet by Helen MacDonald and Sin Blaché. Alternating that with a Junji Ito, Lovesickness. Disturbing, as ever.
― salsa shark, Monday, 3 February 2025 19:43 (seven months ago)
I picked up an audiobook app that does a small number of celebrity AI voiceovers that are actually... quite good? The uncanny is charming rather than offputting. I have Burt Reynolds reading my school psychology textbooks and Laurence Olivier narrating an EPUB of The End of The Affair. John Wayne is also rather special doing Peter Rabbit. "Kertyschoo-uh!"
There's also a much more basic female robot voice on my iPhone that I've been using for ages on my EPUB reader - Stephanie, maybe? It's totally affectless and bland but very listenable - it's the Dyslexie font of voices. The comic timing on her reading of Nora Ephron's Heartburn was much better than the Meryl Streep audiobook.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 3 February 2025 20:49 (seven months ago)
Funny, salsa shark, Acceptance was probably my favorite of the Southern Reach books, though I haven't read the fourth.
I finished 'Golden Boys' yesterday and started its sequel, 'Afterglow,' today. Unlike crypto, I find at least two of the book's characters to be interesting enough to continue reading— the affable but troubled jock and his boyfriend, the 'art fag' of the group. There is something to the first book's beginnings that really gets down the feeling of going into the summer before senior year— as for the boys in the book, it was a transformative summer for me, and not at all in the ways I expected.
Anyway, I have a nice stack right now, so I'm just going to keep plowing through.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 3 February 2025 20:57 (seven months ago)
Finished ‘Afterglow,’ which had some nice drama about book bans and small town bigotry.
Now on ‘The Vast Fields of Ordinary’ by Nick Burd. There’s a continuum here with Dennis Cooper, in some ways— disaffected, nihilistic, artistic older teenage boy with absent but wealthy parents trying to figure shit out all while falling for difficult/shitty dudes.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 21:48 (seven months ago)
The Burd book had some lovely moments— cemetery sex, some teenage gay domesticity, some wild moments— but ended in a way that was so abrupt that I couldn't really wrap my head around it. And it didn't even end in the way that assures a sequel! Bad job in that regard. The author seems to be in marketing now, hasn't written anything else.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 03:10 (seven months ago)
enjoying Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World by dorian lynskey, who may or may not be an erstwhile ilx0r
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 04:14 (seven months ago)
^ If you are UK ilx that hits different
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 09:07 (seven months ago)
In the blurbs:
'Impossibly epic, brain-expanding, life-affirming and profound' – Ian Dunt, author of How Westminster Works . . . and Why It Doesn't
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 10:38 (seven months ago)
Reading a second book by Patrick Ness, ‘More Than This,’ which is about a young man who dies and then wakes up in some sort of afterlife that’s very similar to a part of the life he left behind… still in the beginning chapters, seems promising.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 17:02 (seven months ago)
Openly Straight! Thanks for the rec, table. I'm half finished.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2025 12:56 (seven months ago)
That was crypto, not me! but i cosigned the endorsement after reading it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 February 2025 13:27 (seven months ago)
The Ness book is a sort of sci-fi gay teenage book that is very philosophical and weirdly troubling, actually— I am enjoying it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 February 2025 13:29 (seven months ago)
oh, sorry, crypto. The praise still stands!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2025 13:35 (seven months ago)
(yes, I enjoyed Openly Straight, am looking forward to forward to the sequel too)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 February 2025 13:52 (seven months ago)
Woo!
― cryptosicko, Thursday, 6 February 2025 14:19 (seven months ago)
I just finished a couple of short pieces by Honore de Balzac that NYRB packaged together under the title The Unknown Masterpiece. Both stories featured obsessed and perfectionist artists. The writing style (as translated) interested me; the coloring was very heightened and romanticized, skirting close to the ecstatic, but Balzac kept it under sufficient discipline, so as not to produce the bad purple prose of a lesser Romantic. Well, mostly not.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 6 February 2025 17:48 (seven months ago)
I think my wife has a copy of that; I'll check the shelf.
Finished Tom Breihan's The Number Ones last night; he writes 20 essays on 20 #1 pop singles from the 1950s to the 2000s, beginning with Ricky Nelson (the first song to hit #1 on the newly established Billboard Hot 100 chart) and ending with BTS. I didn't know anything about BTS, so it was very interesting to learn that their songs are often strongly critical of Korean society. Imagine if the Backstreet Boys had sung social protest anthems. His hook is that each of the songs he selected, out of hundreds of possible options, marked some kind of change - either to how music was marketed and sold (Soulja Boy) or to how it sounded (Human League). There are no Taylor Swift or Drake songs included in the book.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 7 February 2025 17:45 (seven months ago)
Vladimir Sharov - The Rehearsals.
Set in Russia at various times from about the 1650s to the 1930s, though it begins near the present as its a novel that delves into much of Russia's past, with a found diary of a man who runs a series of Rehearsals of a crucifixion play. The writing around this medieval bit of art is amazing though it then becomes a narrative of a people on the run across time, trying to find a god/a home, via a series of pile on digressions. There is a lot here about Jewish exile history that crosses over into Russian peasant history right into a communist present where someone, somehow, survives the Soviet prison camps.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 February 2025 13:09 (seven months ago)
Finished ‘More Than This,’ a Patrick Ness novel about a dystopian future/present where many people have opted to go into a sort of permanent alternate reality because of the horrors of living, but the protagonist and several others find themselves outside of that zone due to the ways in which they died in that alternate reality— it’s a strange book, though I did find parts of it quite moving.
Then just completed the sequel to Bill Konigsberg’s ‘Openly Straight,’ entitled ‘Honestly Ben.’ This one got a lot of flack from reviewers and scolds because the protagonist doesn’t think his sexuality can be labelled— he just happens to be in love, both romantically and physically, with his best friend, who happens to be a guy. Having known several people for whom this was the case, including an ex of mine, I found the online commentary about the book inane and guided more by ideological rigidity than acceptance of people as they are. Is the “gay-for-you” trope annoying? At times, sure, but not here. I really cared about the protagonist and his relationships, and felt the book dealt with them with a lot of grace and empathy.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 8 February 2025 16:07 (seven months ago)
Yeah, the criticisms of Honestly Ben are as predictable as they are annoying. Too bad: I've read a lot of queer YA, and particularly gay-male YA, and HB remains remarkable (in my experience, anyway) for its fluid take on sexual identity.
Glad you dug these books!
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 8 February 2025 17:49 (seven months ago)
I just received my copy of Honestly Ben. I'm surprised at myself for wishing Rafe and Ben have a happy ending (no spoilers!).
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 February 2025 17:53 (seven months ago)
I was also surprised at myself, Alfred! I honestly just love Ben— I guess I’ve met a lot of Ben types in my life.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:41 (seven months ago)
This is the story of my life, actually. I befriend a guy, gay or straight, and we end up charming the fuck out of each other. In my late twenties and early thirties I had more than one dope sigh, "Man, if I was gay..."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 February 2025 22:23 (seven months ago)
Yeah, my late teens and early to mid twenties were a parade of straight guys who were my best friends for a season….
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 February 2025 00:16 (seven months ago)
Finished ‘Release’ by Patrick Ness, the third book I have read by him during my perhaps unlikely venture into queer YA.
Ness is a strange writer, and this book was strange. An ancient myth involving a faun and a Queen collide with a contemporary reality of a murdered tweaker woman and a gay boy and his group of friends in exurban Seattle. Hard to really get at more than that, but I will say that the protagonist has some moments with his evangelical father that made me wince because of the similarities to interactions I had with my parents while growing up.
The sex scenes were the best I have read in any gay YA book— intimate and real without feeling, well, too pornographic for YA.
I know I have been posting a lot here, probably because I *do* find these genre investigations exciting, and also because obviously I am working through some stuff. Thanks for your patience….
And perhaps to put less strain on this thread, should I start a YA fiction thread?
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 February 2025 14:12 (seven months ago)
Nah (or yeah but not for that reason, it’s fine here!)
― the babality of evil (wins), Sunday, 9 February 2025 14:20 (seven months ago)
a young adult fiction thread
― the babality of evil (wins), Sunday, 9 February 2025 14:22 (seven months ago)
thanks wins.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 February 2025 15:10 (seven months ago)
tabes, I just read the Walden Pond scene b/w Rafe and Ben and I'm dying.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 February 2025 21:29 (seven months ago)
lmfao i loved that scene, i am so glad you are also enjoying the book. thanks crypto!!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 February 2025 22:25 (seven months ago)
I've actually started a document listing all of the QYA titles you (table) reference in this thread that I haven't read, along with your comments, so I know which ones to prioritize. At the top of that list (which my library is taking its sweet time getting to me): Boy Like Me. So, thank YOU!
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 9 February 2025 22:29 (seven months ago)
Boy Like Me is really one of the best of the ones I've read— it made me weep several times.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 February 2025 23:03 (seven months ago)
― gyac, Sunday, 19 January 2025 18:08 (three weeks ago) link
Same, loved it. I’m always curious to read about what it means to be Catholic (I’m Jewish but my partner was raised Catholic, taught by nuns until high school, the whole shebang) although I’m guessing this is not an entirely representative text of The Catholic Experience. On top of that - loved the thick wartime atmospherics, the sexy doomed romance of it all, Golders Green (!), the Maurice-Henry bromance, the way London feels like a real place and also a living dream where only seven or eight people ever exist. It’s weirdly funny too - I thought, this is how to do an unsympathetic narrator - it’s like it’s been written by sometime who’s very capable of being funny, but has (rightly) chosen not to be.
I guess people get annoyed by the coincidence and deterministic plotting of the final third? But it struck me as right for the story and not annoying in the way depressing plot-turns can be in e.g. Hardy.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 10 February 2025 09:44 (seven months ago)
Honestly I am Catholic and I found the Catholicism the least interesting aspect of it cos I’m like reading this and going THAT’S WHERE HE WENT WITH IT??? Oh Graham…. But that’s subjective ofc and not the experience of most readers and it’s not enough for me not to love it. I think it comes across really cheesily in the film - which is really good btw but not up to the book’s standard - and I think the depiction of his wrestling with his hatred of God and ensuing way the plot plays out is pretty interesting. I also think the sense of place in this is incredible. I’m in Covent Garden fairly frequently and I’ve passed what I’m pretty sure is that grating they stand on to kiss a million times. I’ve passed the church on Southampton Row a billion times, but I’ve never been inside and, honestly I should go. Look at that interior!https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Christi_Catholic_Church,_Maiden_LaneI love how someone is always crossing the Common and thinking about someone else crossing the Common or going to cross the Common themselves. I love the onions scene - how postwar dinner is that - and how conscious that whole scene is. And Henry, how Maurice sees him and hates him for being married to Sarah but can’t dislike the person?Tl;dr it’s a great great book and I love that you enjoyed it
― triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2025 11:07 (seven months ago)
Good discussion itt, I love Greene but haven't read that one yet, bumping up the list.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 10 February 2025 11:31 (seven months ago)
Reading Hot Milk by Deborah Levy. The young protagonist has accompanied her demanding mother to spain to visit an expensive clinic to find out what's up with her mother's legs. The doctor may be a quack. The young woman is failing to finish her anthropology degree. She has fallen into sexual relationships with a young medic who treated her jellyfish stings and a random spanish woman, who has a boyfriend. She hasn't passed her driving test but has to drive her mother around. I'm not sure why I should care about any of this. I should give up but I'm over half way through.
― birming man (ledge), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 14:30 (seven months ago)
Reading ‘Outline of my Lover’ by Douglas A. Martin— deeply affecting.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 20:16 (seven months ago)
I've had a smile since finishing Honestly Ben yesterday morning.
I should reread The End of the Affair. I got to it when Neil Jordan released his adaptation. I went through a big Greene kick at the start of the pandemic. His precision and mordancy always work on me but often I put down a novel and think, "Is that it?"
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 February 2025 20:32 (seven months ago)
Lutz Seiler - In Case of Loss
Just picked this up on a whim, a bunch of essays by a German poet who won the Buchner Prize (a list I do look at now and then for German Language writers), gotta say I am just not feeling German culture over the last year (post-Gaza) and its probably better than I have space for rn.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 February 2025 20:59 (seven months ago)
Finished the Martin book—
fans of REM, take note: the book is a fictionalization of Martin’s relationship with Michael Stipe over the course of several years when Martin was a college student in Savannah. It’s not exactly flattering to Stipe, but I will say that the book operates more as a meditation on obsession and loss. And it’s not all about Stipe, either; here is a passage about a boy Martin’s narrator was obsessed with in high school.
Trying to near him swallows me, all of my concentration goes only to him. And I am focused with that challenge. It saves me, buoys me through years and days. He becomes my lesson in want, is my want, my only.
There are some comparisons to Duras to be made, and I think they’re apt. Good book!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 00:34 (seven months ago)
Began Bill Konigsberg’s ‘The Music of What Happens.’ Seems like it will be a typical jock-meets-nerd type teen gay romance with some added plot elements… including one around assault and consent that seems like it might set the book apart.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 14:04 (seven months ago)
Haven't read that one. Only non-Ben and Rafe book of Konigsberg's that I've read so far is Destination Unknown, which I believe was inspired by his own gay-coming-of-age in NYC in the 1980s, with most of what that setting implies. I liked it though; the chapters (like the novel's title) are all taken from New Wave songs of the era (including one chapter titled "Coming Up Close," after my single favourite song of all time), and the love interest is obsessed with Dale Bozzio.
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 14:21 (seven months ago)
The 'Til Tuesday song? Nice!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 14:29 (seven months ago)
I just finished a short, early novel by John Le Carre, A Murder of Quality. It was his second published novel. His writing style was already quite mature and he had created his long term protagonist in George Smiley, but in this book Smiley seems intended to develop into yet another of those brilliant amateur detectives so beloved in British murder mysteries. In an Introduction written decades later Le Carre sums it up as "a flawed thriller redeemed by ferocious and quite funny social comment." I agree with that assessment.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 17:40 (seven months ago)
I've tried and tried with Le Carre. I just don't speak his language, I guess.
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 18:05 (seven months ago)
Yeah, same. At first I thought it was a failure to understand genre, but I love a lot of other stuff in a similar vein.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 18:11 (seven months ago)
Gave up on Hot Milk. Started You Dreamed of Empires by Álvaro Enrigue, about Cortes and Moctezuma. So far seems like the anti Wolf Hall - Moctezuma is depressed, Cortes is a buffoon, no-one seems to know what is going on.
― birming man (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2025 08:57 (seven months ago)
I read a few of Le Carre's novels during the pandemic and finally Got Him.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 February 2025 10:22 (seven months ago)
What I love about Le Carre is that everything terrible has already happened; the books are all looking back, assessing damage, cleaning up, and telling yourself, "Well, we survived, I guess." They're perfect for middle-aged men.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 13 February 2025 18:26 (seven months ago)
And Whigish sentimentalists, yearning for empire.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 February 2025 21:53 (seven months ago)
The joke's usually on them, especially in the later novels
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 February 2025 22:45 (seven months ago)
Yah, was gonna say Le Carre's novels are scarcely a ringing endorsement for the competence of the British intelligence service or the Foreign Office, nor are they given to nostalgia for the former empire. More often they excoriate the entrenchment of the class system in the upper reaches of the civil service.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 February 2025 01:38 (seven months ago)
‘The Music of What Happens’ was good, though my point about the jock-meets-art-fag things stands… what complicates matters is that there is a huge issue of sexual assault, as well as addict/unstable parents. It was refreshing to read, in some ways— boys finding out about each other and life as a team. There are some sexual moments, but no sex between them for reasons that I won’t get into. Decent book, Konigsberg is a good writer.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 14 February 2025 19:34 (seven months ago)
I started it this morning. The title kept nagging at me; then I remembered Helen Vender used the title for one of her early essay collections.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2025 20:56 (seven months ago)
It’s from a Heaney poem!
Now onto ‘Fifteen Hundred Miles from the Sun,’ a book I picked up in the YA section of the library based on gaydar alone— no stickers or other indications on it— and indeed, it is a gay YA book about a Mexican American kid in Corpus Christi and a Vietnamese kid in LA who fall for each other over Twitter. it’s wholesome and real and has a lot of Spanish and Vietnamese language mixed into it, which is really cool. (Author’s name is Jonny Garza Villa).
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 14 February 2025 21:23 (seven months ago)
Read their Ander & Santi Were Here, which was...fine.
Since Boy Like Me appears to still have some holds on it, I think I'll make The Music of What Happens my next QYA read.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 14 February 2025 22:12 (seven months ago)
I have Boy Like Me too. You guys rule.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2025 22:26 (seven months ago)
Oh Alfred, Boy Like Me absolutely wrecked me.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 00:09 (seven months ago)
to folks who liked arisotle and dante, i’ll make a strong recommendation for john corey whaley’s “highly illogical behavior.”
cute, smart, and uncreepy — which isn’t how i feel about a bunch of the other ya romance i’ve read in the past decade
― the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Saturday, 15 February 2025 00:15 (seven months ago)
I’ve heard of that one but haven’t read it. Adding it to the list!
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 15 February 2025 00:19 (seven months ago)
thanks soda, on mine now too
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 01:21 (seven months ago)
Finished the Villa book.
It was pretty good, to be honest, though in a way that felt a little strange.
So many of the gay YA books have protagonists that have decent relationships with their parents. A few exceptions, sure, but there seems to be a ton of emphasis in the genre on kids being worried about who they are and the parents ending up being fine with it.
The father of the protagonist in the Villa book is undoubtedly the most evil father in any of the YA books I have read— not in a cartoonish way, but in the way that everyone knows and expects out of homophobic dads. I guess it might be weird to say it, because it was painful to read at times, but it was *good* that this book didn’t sugarcoat things. So many kids still get kicked out of their houses when they come out, it’s wild to think about.
Anyway, certainly not the most artful or politically astute of the books I have been reading, but pretty lovely, and nice to FINALLY have some Asian representation in one of these books for once.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 04:11 (seven months ago)
The Double Life Of Arsene Lupin - The Lupin books are quick, easy reads for when I want to practice my French, and a dashing jewel thief is certainly a more comfortable read in the 21st century than many of the other archetypes of turn of the century popular lit (victorian explorer, supercop, etc.). I haven't been reading them in order, and it's been ages since I picked one up, but it feels like he's a harder man in this...previously I'd only remembered him tricking the police and rich victims, but here he gets several innocents involved and manipulates them in rather cruel ways, even if the book always stops short of making him a real rogue. I was going to speculate that the competition of the Fantômas stories, featuring a totally ruthless criminal, might have forced Leblanc to heighten things a little, but turns out this is from 1910 and Fantômas started in 1911.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 15 February 2025 10:49 (seven months ago)
Started Édouard Louis’ ‘History of Violence.’ Harrowing.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 13:57 (seven months ago)
I read The End of Eddy a while ago and enjoyed it.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 February 2025 15:28 (seven months ago)
Yeah, I don’t know if “enjoyed” would be the word I would use to describe my reaction to ‘The End of Eddy,’ but I thought it was interesting. What I find fascinating is the contrast between the two— Louis’ tight prose in ‘Eddy’ is much less so in ‘History,’ which feels much more sprawling, undifferentiated, jumbled. But then again, it is a book detailing a more acute, specific act of violence rather than a general ambient violence, so these stylistic choices make some amount of sense.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 15:57 (seven months ago)
"Enjoyed" isn't the right word, no. Let's say Louis' control over the material.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 February 2025 16:24 (seven months ago)
...impressed me.
yes, that was my reaction too
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 16:27 (seven months ago)
Picked up Boy Like Me, thanks for the recommendation.
I’m halfway through “Still Pictures” by Janet Malcolm, it’s completely delightful.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 16 February 2025 16:55 (seven months ago)
I just re-read Eiger Dreams, Jon Krakauer, a collection of a dozen or so short magazine pieces about mountains and climbing. The sport has continued to grow and change, but these pieces have aged very well because they aren't really about technique but about a certain kind of obsession, written by someone who knew it from the inside.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 16 February 2025 17:54 (seven months ago)
that’s my favorite Krakauer, Aimless.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 February 2025 18:47 (seven months ago)
Have y'all read James Salter's novel about mountain climbing?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 February 2025 18:48 (seven months ago)
Solo Faces? Yes. Great book.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 February 2025 18:49 (seven months ago)
I'll have to look into it & see what's up. I've a hunch the most interesting part of a mountain climbing novel would be the least fictional and most focused on the climbing.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:05 (seven months ago)
I need to get that. I love Eiger Dreams. Climbers by M. John Harrison is a great, ah, climbing book.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:07 (seven months ago)
I'm reading *The Mermaid of Black Conch* by Monique Roffey. She's a British-Trinadadian writer and this is a magical realist fable in which a woman is cursed to be a mermaid, and, centuries later, caught by some American tourists. A local guy saves her and gradually nurses her back to health. It's gentle and warm (so far), written in a mix of patois and fragmentary poems.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:11 (seven months ago)
Aimless, the climbing parts of Solo Faces are quite interesting, but it’s really about the obsession and drive that get a climber to do the things they do. Harrison’s book is much more about dirtbagging, on the other hand— they’re sort of a study in contrasts, with Salter’s being much more in debt to the modernist novel and Harrison the post-modern. at least in my thinking.
I liked Harrison’s book a bit better, tho, if only because it feels closer to my own experiences
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 16 February 2025 19:24 (seven months ago)
Milton Mayer's They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-1945 has taken a turn in its final third that's less interesting to me than what came before, so I might give up on it. I got two more John D. MacDonald Travis McGee novels from the library and am going to try one of those tonight.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 17 February 2025 04:07 (seven months ago)
what did milton mayer write about the germans, during the war, that you found uninteresting?
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 February 2025 04:16 (seven months ago)
Alan Moore, The Great When - So far this is repeating the tricks from Jerusalem, multiple protagonists, jumps in time, psychedelic and mystical imagery mixed with British working class/leftist history. At least the black character is less clumsily portrayed this time.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 17 February 2025 10:33 (seven months ago)
I just can’t with Moore’s prose. I feel like a 12 year old again, trying to decode one of those impossible long pages of captions in Swamp Thing. I need the pictures! I might have to put them beside Neal Stephenson in the “sounds interesting, won’t read” pile
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 February 2025 14:11 (seven months ago)
I had a similar experience when I first cracked open Jerusalem during the pandemic, but being a Moore fanboy I took it as a challenge abd focused on understanding each sentence. In a way that kinda retaught me how to read? So much writing these days doesn't demand that kind of attention (cf discussion elsewhere about no one doing description anymore), it felt really good to get back to that kind of concentration. Not that I can pretend I always read like that now.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 17 February 2025 18:04 (seven months ago)
I really enjoyed You Dreamed of Empires. Partly because it's a fascinating period of history - I didn't know Cortes made alliances with many indigenous groups, or that he was invited into the palace in Tenochtitlan (the floating city at the heart of the Aztec empire), or that Tenochtitlan was a wonder of the world which awed the Spanish. But I also enjoyed the modern, sardonic tone (though he didn't shy away from the brutality and barbarism on both sides), and the occasional flash of postmodernity (e.g. an unexpected brief appearance of the music of T-Rex).
― birming man (ledge), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 09:31 (seven months ago)
Oh I also read The Great Arc, about the 19th century project to create a triangulation survey of India, and calculate the curvature of the earth along the way. An incredible undertaking which took decades, cost hundreds of lives (from disease), uprooted locals and destroyed their homes (yay colonialism), was a celebrated scientific achievement at the time and is now almost completely forgotten. The surveyor general, George Everest (pronounced EVE-rest) is only remembered for one thing (the mountain), calculating the height of which was merely a side effect of the survey which he didn't do and didn't particularly care about.
― birming man (ledge), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 10:50 (seven months ago)
Nathaniel Hawthorne - The Scarlett Letter
Talked about this a bit on the 'classic' book thread
Gert Hofmann - The Parable of the Blind
This is fantastic. A 'back story' of the six blind men painted by Brueghel in his "Blind Leading the Blind", told in a Beckett like fashion, from their POV.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 16:31 (seven months ago)
I just finished A Long Strange Trip by Dennis McNally, the official history of the Grateful Dead. I loved the first 60%, which only goes through like 1972, but it is a bit thin after that. It weirdly skips over things I would have liked to hear more about (1973 is basically reduced to Watkins Glen, 1974 to the Wall of Sound and cocaine) and emphasizes other things I dngaf about like the trip to Egypt in 1978. The last few years and Garcia's deterioration is pretty grim.
I started reading Billy Budd, Sailor and enjoying it already.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 16:55 (seven months ago)
Started Martin Wilson’s ‘What They Always Tell Us,’ a book that is technically YA but reads a lot more like an adult novel about teenagers. Two brothers in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, one of whom recently tried to kill himself. Interesting things happening in their dynamic, and it seems like they both might be gay? Anyway, I am enjoying it, feels very naturalistic and not as antic or contrived as some other YA I have read recently. Maybe also because it’s older and there isn’t as much manic texting and stuff?
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 February 2025 03:49 (seven months ago)
This feels a bit like a confession, but I checked out a Richard Stark 'Parker" novel, The outfit, from the library without realizing that I'd read it a couple years ago. As I started reading it seemed vaguely familiar. About 1/3 through I knew for sure that I'd read it before, but I recalled so little about the details that I was still able to enjoy it. I went ahead and finished it. Again. It took me two nights, so it's not like I wasted a lot of time on it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 20 February 2025 04:27 (seven months ago)
Don’t know that novel, but yes—-the breathlessness of a lot of social media age YA prose can be exhausting and even a bit alienating for an oldster like me. Another one for me to check out though!
― cryptosicko, Thursday, 20 February 2025 04:53 (seven months ago)
xp this is perfectly fine! you've read a lot of books; not all of them are necessarily memorable
― mookieproof, Thursday, 20 February 2025 05:11 (seven months ago)
Jean Paul - Logbook of Giannozzo the Balloonist
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 February 2025 09:23 (seven months ago)
Tyll by Daniel Kehlmann. Just yer standard contemporary political critique via literary historical fiction. Abounds with startling insights and images.
― birming man (ledge), Thursday, 20 February 2025 10:52 (seven months ago)
xpost to crypto: finished it today. a really lovely book about brotherly love and learning how to care for others. the younger brother is gay, but it’s more a part of the story of how the two brothers find each other as brothers again.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:25 (seven months ago)
(i am an only child— probably makes sense to all of you, lmao— but i love reading books about siblings)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:26 (seven months ago)
The Music of What Happens disappointed me after the other two Konigsbergs. The characters struck me as pallid imitations of Ben and Rafe. Also, he's not great at three-dimensional girls.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:40 (seven months ago)
Yeah, agreed about that one, tho I thought the actual themes of the book were important.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:58 (seven months ago)
I mean, it was the first gay YA book I’ve read that dealt with SA in any kind of meaningful way
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 February 2025 18:00 (seven months ago)
oh yeah by far the most harrowing -- when I got to a certain chapter I got a lump in my throat.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 February 2025 18:02 (seven months ago)
Istvan Orkeny - One Minute Stories. (The title is what these are)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 February 2025 23:04 (seven months ago)
How are you finding One Minute Stories? I loved it (as you know)
― Tim, Friday, 21 February 2025 09:32 (seven months ago)
Oh really love them! They seem to draw on a lot of what I love about specifically Hungarian fiction circa 1920s or so, which is like this pure love for the pleasure -- but also horror -- in the everyday. The footnotes are really useful in adding context of that post-war eastern euro life.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 February 2025 10:06 (seven months ago)
Cool! I think they have something of the Daniil Kharms about them also, which is high praise. I have vol2 here if you ever need more.
― Tim, Friday, 21 February 2025 11:58 (seven months ago)
May do. I'll revive the FAP thread.
(Have you read this collection btw? You might like it: https://www.europaeditions.com/author/338/geza-csath)
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 February 2025 12:18 (seven months ago)
crypto, the description you gave and those online don’t do justice to how absolutely brutal ‘Two Boys Kissing’ is. maybe it’s because I get very emotional when i think about the worst of the plague years and all the men we lost, but i am finding it hard to read this book without becoming overwhelmingly sad.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 21 February 2025 12:53 (seven months ago)
Gezaesthetics, nice.
― Tim, Friday, 21 February 2025 17:45 (seven months ago)
My wife and I are in the process of updating our 20 year old Advance Directives -- the legal form that allows you to state your treatment preferences if your medical condition makes you incapable of communicating them in real time. So, old age and end-of-life issues were in the front of my mind when I picked up a book at the library that purported to discuss old age through the lens of philosophy, Travels with Epicurus: A Journey to a Greek Island in Search of a Fulfilling Life, Daniel Klein.
I read it. It was definitely aimed at an audience that must be gently coaxed into reading a book about anything as serious as old age or quotes such serious philosophers as Epicurus or Sartre. At 160 pages, within a small format and using plenty of white space, it was designed like those "gift books" people do not buy to read themselves. The writing style was light, the wisdom on display was determined to appear as innocuous as possible, lest the reader take fright and stop reading. It succeeded. It took me about 3½ hours to read.
I can't quarrel with the author or his advice, basic as it was. It even helped remind me of a few things I knew, but which were getting lost in the ephemera of daily life. Verdict: it knew its purpose and its audience and did what it could to match its ambitions to reality. iow, it was sorta OKish.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 21 February 2025 18:27 (seven months ago)
Finished the Levithan— really astonishing book tbh, much better than I ever could have anticipated. There is a section toward the end that was particularly rough-going, emotionally, but after a while I settled into the voice of the chorus, and it no longer made me sad, but grateful.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 21 February 2025 19:35 (seven months ago)
It became less him quoting his German neighbors (fascinating, unlike anything I'd read before, a lot of very strong parallels to life in MAGA America) and more him lecturing the reader on anti-Semitism (I can get that from any number of other books).
Finished another John D. MacDonald book, Pale Gray For Guilt, last night. The general plot (Travis McGee and some friends set up an elaborate financial con to avenge the death of a friend and make a ton of money for his widow) was pretty good, but the pretty gross sexism, conveyed in long pseudo-hip internal monologues from McGee (the book is from 1968), undermined it pretty badly.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 21 February 2025 21:10 (seven months ago)
The Language of the Third Reich : LTI, Lingua Tertii Imperii : a philologist's notebook Victor Klemperer,fascinating look at language used in Germany under Hitler which doubles up as a memoir of the Jewish author's time under the regime. I think I have some of his diaries from the time so far unread, & I caught a talk on him at the local University a couple of decades back.This comes as a load of pretty short chapters which makes for quick reading or at least would do if it was the only thing I was reading at the same time. Pretty good anyway.
Rise and Kill First : The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations Ronen Bergman,thick book on the history of Israeli secret service and its supposedly sanctioned killings. Quite interesting. I think it turned up inn the bibliography of something I read recently. Possibly Maya Wind's Towers of Ivory and Steel her boom on the tie in between Israeli universities and the Israeli military
Mother nature Sara Blaffer Hrdy, A look at mother hood in nature across several species though largely as regards the human. I was recommended her as an author by Angela Saini I think both in something I read and as an answer in a Q&A session.Interesting book but the size and shape are a bit awkward. Oversize and heavy. Do want to get through this and read the other couple of titles in the library system.
We wish to inform you that tomorrow we will be killed with our families : stories from Rwanda Philip Gourevitch,book on the Rwanda genocide and its aftermath. Mainly told in a series of anecdotes about the people the author interacts with in the country as he investigates the story. Oretty good,
Mumbo jumbo Ismael Reedsatirical novel written by black author in the early 70s concerning the US going through the jus grew epidemic.
The culture of flowers Jack Goodyhistory of relationship between man and flowers across several civilisations. I think I need to check secondary sources about lack of relationship in Africa and some other places the author mentions. But this is mainly pretty interesting.I'd come across comment on a language of flowers in a 60s annual for a girl's comic and have wanted to know more ever since. In that different flowers sent to a loved one had different messages by variety. Lead me to thinking this would be interesting and hopefully give a better picture of the lore involved, I'm in Ancient Egypt and Rome so far. So will hopefully know a lot more in a couple of hundred pages.
Neu Klang Christoph Dallachoral history of Krautrock which was pretty fascinating. One of several books on the subject I've read.I've enjoyed some of the music involved for the last few decades, think I've heard about some new material in reading this. Good read anyway.
― Stevo, Saturday, 22 February 2025 01:06 (seven months ago)
I've read three Jim Thompson novels in two days, which feels like too many - it seems like the kind of mindset you want to ration yourself on. Two of them are about small-town sheriffs who pretend to be kind of dumb while secretly murdering everyone in sight, but oddly it's not repetitive; I could happily read an entire series about different small-town sheriff serial killers.
Neither book is up to the level of something like In A Lonely Place, but they do have the same double-exposed quality of putting you inside the mind of someone who thinks they have complete control over the way others see them and they're making all the right moves to manipulate people, while also showing you that actually people know there's something seriously off about them.
― Lily Dale, Saturday, 22 February 2025 04:30 (seven months ago)
The unreliable narrator thing is really good.What I've read by Thompson has been great.most of of it that sociopathic lead character thing.But there are also some semi autobiographical things on working in hotels etc.I think he wound up writing for the Ironsides tv show or was it vocalising some of the shows for reading consumption.
I came across him in the mid 80s at a time when a load of pulp fiction authors were being anthologies for a series where 4 novels would appear in one book. Was that Black Spring Press?I think he was also somebody musicians I was in6o were talking about. Plus thete were a few films of his work appearing. The Fritters and Killer Inside Me and things. A remake of The Getaway that gets the end even more wrong than the Peckinpah 70s version came out in the mid 90s too.
― Stevo, Saturday, 22 February 2025 07:04 (seven months ago)
autocorrect substituted vocalising for novelising there.
& Fritters for Grifters.
― Stevo, Saturday, 22 February 2025 10:02 (seven months ago)
About halfway through ‘We Are the Ants,’ a sort of speculative queer YA book about a lower-class gay kid in Florida who gets abducted by aliens on a regular basis. The end of the world, his boyfriend’s suicide, and a number of other factors complicate the already complicated picture. Well-written, despite some of the allegorical elements feels heavy-handed at times.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 February 2025 13:37 (seven months ago)
feeling heavy-handed, that is.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 February 2025 13:38 (seven months ago)
My favorite Thompson novels — I read a bunch in the late 80s/early 90s when they got reprinted in trade paperback — are The Killer Inside Me (one of the aforementioned psycho-sheriff stories) and A Hell of a Woman, which starts out as dark, almost despairing noir and in its final chapters swerves all the way off the road into genuine horror.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 22 February 2025 17:34 (seven months ago)
The Fritters Inside Me is the title of my autobiography
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 22 February 2025 18:42 (seven months ago)
I've started in on Turtle Diary, Russell Hoban, but I don't yet feel totally committed to it. There's something about using alternating diary entries by two main characters, where everything in the narrative is either retrospective or contemplative, that might turn it into a bit too much of a grind. The writing has many flashes of wit, so that's promising.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:11 (seven months ago)
Blasted through a third and for me final John D. MacDonald book, The Green Ripper, today. It's from 1979 (the first two I read were from 1965 and 1968), and you can really feel the age difference in both author and protagonist. Travis McGee is a burnt-out case, and John D. MacDonald is putting long speeches into a supporting character's mouth about how civilization is doomed, the earth's going down the toilet, overpopulation, economic collapse, blah blah blah. And instead of con artists, McGee is going against a transnational terror organization sponsored by Communists and disguised as a cult, and (I don't expect anyone else here to read the book but SPOILERS AHOY) he winds up massacring like a dozen people. The whole thing was grim enough that I actually found myself missing the dollar-store Playboy philosophy stuff from the earlier books. It was a really joyless and mean-spirited book. I can't see myself seeking out more, but if I do they'll definitely be from earlier in the run.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 23 February 2025 05:46 (seven months ago)
Finished ‘We Are the Ants.’ An interesting look at friendship, family, and grief. The protagonist’s world has ended, in many ways, and he doesn’t see a point in continuing for much of the book, but a number of incidents converge so that he recognizes that he wants to live. Nice book for the nerdy gay teens.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 February 2025 12:42 (seven months ago)
Finished Adam Silvera’s ‘They Both Die at the End,’ a heavy-handed parable about two teens who were previously strangers living their last day alive together. It’s the sort of book that has lessons, and despite the fact that those lessons are worth pondering and in some cases living out, it felt a little too ham-handed for me. Maybe good for the same age group that loves ‘Dead Poets Society’ and such. I am slowly formulating some thoughts on why some of the more speculative queer YA doesn’t work for me in the same way the more naturalistic stuff does, and it has to do with this heavy-handedness— which seems like an unfortunate convergence of genre conventions rather than ‘bad writing,’ per se.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 24 February 2025 12:41 (seven months ago)
Began Phil Dellio's We Don't Wanna Know: 51 (or 52) Music Videos That Should Never Disappear which I started (and may continue) writing about here:
Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread
― cryptosicko, Monday, 24 February 2025 17:18 (seven months ago)
(ugh, thought I linked my post--scroll down to the most recent posts if you're interested)
My only Travis McGee so far I won't name, because spoilers: his self-loathing spills over into sexist behavior at one point---as in Groucho's "I wouldn't want to be in any club that would have me as a member"---she brings revenge, an innocent bystander gets hurt, McGee helps him out kinda, being Mr. Volunteer Problem-Solver, which he also loathes---"I'm an overeducated beach bum": he's a maybe early example of the Dysfunctional Detective here, and it works pretty well (email me for title).
― dow, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 04:04 (seven months ago)
Finished The Chymical Wedding by Lindsay Clarke, which I had picked up in a used bookstore knowing almost nothing about it - came out in 1989 to some critical acclaim and does not seem to have left much of an impact. I found it very enjoyable to read even when I was a little dubious about how good it actually was - it just felt nice to be reading something with its level of ambition and the feel of a classic novel. It has a bit of Arcadia and Middlemarch to it - two stories in the same location, separated by 150 years, with the modern-day characters trying to find the remnants of the work of a father and daughter who devoted decades to the Hermetic Mystery, and perhaps communicating with them across time. The actual substance of the alchemical business everyone's obsessing over remained pretty obscure to me, and one of the main characters acts like such an asshole most of the time that it got a little hard to believe that anyone could put up with him, but it somehow stayed compelling most of the time. It lost me a bit as it reached a rather hysterical climax and the characters' dialogue got ever more verbose, but then won me back somewhat with a much calmer extended coda.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 04:44 (seven months ago)
I finished Turtle Diary, Russell Hoban. Although its structure bears some resemblance to alternating diary entries, it's execution belies that idea and that's good, and here's why. By evading the constraints that would be imposed by mimicking diary writing too exactly, it lets the author slip out of a number of stylistic dead ends and lets the story flow more naturally. The book is densely packed with introspections and social observations and as one blurb phrases it, "witty detail, mordant intelligence, and self-deprecating irony", which strikes me as more accurately descriptive than the average blurb. I did get a bit impatient with how intensely uncomfortable the main characters were in their own skins, but by the end of the book they've gained some small amount of headway in that regard.
I think my next book will be The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives, Leonard Mlodinow. It starts right out citing Kahneman and Tversky, and regression to mean, so I hope it pulls in some ideas and examples that reach past these.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 17:41 (seven months ago)
Finished Konigsberg’s ‘Destination Unknown,’ and while it’s not up to par with the duology, it’s an incredible book. Here’s why, via an anecdote:I was in a queer lit class during my second year of grad school. Kevin Killian, my mentor (whom I miss dearly), was the professor. He had assigned us a few chapters from Wojnarowicz’s ‘Close to the Knives,’ which I had already read and re-read a few times by that point. In discussion, we were talking about the text, and this guy a few years younger than me said “I just think Wojnarowicz is a little over the top. Like, a little melodramatic.” And there was silence in the room.And then I did something I had never ever done up until that point in my life, and which I have never done again, and I basically started yelling in class about tens of thousands of men dying of AIDS and the government not giving a shit and a rotten homophobic society, and basically demanded that he answer whether it was “melodramatic “ to write as Wojnarowicz did under those conditions, his best friends and his lovers and his entire community dying around him. He sort of stared at me, dumbstruck, and Kevin looked at me sadly. I had to leave the classroom because I was crying, just openly crying because I couldn’t understand how someone— a gay man my own age— could not understand the stakes of his existence, and the stakes that were Wojnarowicz’s. I remember shaking with sadness and rage in the courtyard of the building, unable to find a lighter for a cigarette, just crying. Since that moment I have always worried that young people, especially gay boys, have no conception of what the Plague years were like. I didn’t live through them as an adult, but I have read enough to have some conception as to how devastating it was. Many times my fears about younger peoples’ lack of knowledge have been confirmed . But that’s why Konigsberg’s book is so important: it is for young people, and it tells a story of love and the closet and AIDS that young people need to hear. I am grateful that he wrote it, and though I am obviously not the audience for it, I am glad I read it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 February 2025 14:09 (seven months ago)
Glad you liked it, table.
I assigned BPM, the film about the Paris chapter of ACT-UP, to my class a few weeks ago, and I got the feeling, while trying to engage the room in discussion, that maybe five of them might have even bothered watching it.
― cryptosicko, Thursday, 27 February 2025 16:18 (seven months ago)
BPM is one of my essential films.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 February 2025 16:24 (seven months ago)
I was in my mid-twenties when some hope emerged and fully out when someone with AIDS stood a chance of staying alive but it was too late: I'm in a sense permanently scarred by growing up in the plague's shadow, in large part b/c my dad's half-brother died of AIDS on Thanksgiving 1995.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 February 2025 16:26 (seven months ago)
Never seen BPM, in the queue now.
crypto, it's astonishing to me that so many young people seem to think this history doesn't concern them.
firstly, people are still contracting HIV! HIV/AIDS is not a crisis that is over!
secondly, the era of mass death from AIDS-related causes was less than 40 years ago, which is incredibly recent, and yet the presentist mindset (which includes the availability of anti-retrovirals, PrEP, etc) means that people think it doesn't concern them any longer.
thirdly, some of the lessons of ACT-UP and other groups should be studied more closely in terms of resisting current attempts at repression.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 February 2025 17:12 (seven months ago)
in any case, i am going to start I'll Get There. It Better be Worth the Trip by John Donovan, which is commonly conceived of as the first YA novel with queer/gay themes, published two months before Stonewall in 1969. the content is supposed to be pretty tame, but i am still excited to read it— many compare it to a gay Catcher in the Rye.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 February 2025 17:14 (seven months ago)
Yes to everything in your first post.
The Donovan novel is better than you might expect for a queer YA novel that was published in 1969, though it does establish some of the cliches—clearly based on the leading psychological beliefs at the time—that quickly became wearying when I was going through all bunch of early QYA books for my research a few years back. I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts.
― cryptosicko, Thursday, 27 February 2025 17:24 (seven months ago)
I read ~65 pages of The Drunkard's Walk and it's dreadful. I wasn't learning anything either new or useful and as soon as the examples tried to apply statistical methods to examples that weren't as determinate as coin flips, card games or lotteries their applicability quickly drifted into nonsense. It'll be headed back to the charity shop.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 27 February 2025 18:38 (seven months ago)
Finished the Donovan— it is a nice little book, though the tropes of the parents are grating to say the least. How many absent fathers and alcoholic bipolar moms are there in queer YA? I will say that the talk that the father had with the narrator reminded me a lot of the talk my father had with me when I first came out, 30 years after this book was published. It made me wince a bit, really, because how insane is it to say to a kid, “well you know if you keep feeling that way you’re going to ruin your life.” I liked the narrator quite a bit, and felt for him.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 28 February 2025 19:20 (seven months ago)
How many absent fathers and alcoholic bipolar moms are there in queer YA?
Too many. That aside, I mostly agree with you about the novel. I like that it ends with one of the boys being basically okay with his sexuality--again, in 1969.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 28 February 2025 23:02 (seven months ago)
yeah, Altschuler was a great character in that way. i really liked the weepy candy lady too.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 March 2025 02:01 (six months ago)
i know nothing of queer YA, but absent parents have been a trope in children's literature for literally ever
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2025 04:40 (six months ago)
Disney's 'family films' are known for the frequency with which their young protagonists having one or more dead parents.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 1 March 2025 04:48 (six months ago)
Guessing the dynamics are different when it's specifically an absent father within the context of gay YA, especially with a title from the 60's when "a kid turning gay means there was insufficient masculine influence" was still a mainstream opinion.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 1 March 2025 10:28 (six months ago)
Yes. We're talking about specific forms of absence and neglect that align with the prevailing psychological "wisdom" of the time.
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 1 March 2025 12:42 (six months ago)
yes, that is correct, but why don’t we let mookieproof and Aimless enlighten us some more.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 March 2025 02:24 (six months ago)
Oh good, nothing more there. Finished Adam Silvera’s ‘More Happy Than Not,’ and I found this one much more enjoyable than his ‘They Both Die at the End,’ probably because the speculative plot element felt more likely — it revolves around a memory-erasure procedure— and the protagonist’s pain and circumstances are also much more complicated and deftly depicted. In particular, there’s a flashback scene where the protagonist’s memory-erasure operation fails and he remembers every indication of his burgeoning sexuality, from when he was a little kid onwards. It felt raw and real in a way that Silvera’s other novel did not.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 March 2025 13:03 (six months ago)
Now onto Fritz Peters’ ‘Finistère,’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 March 2025 13:10 (six months ago)
I've avoided Silvera for reasons I can't quite pinpoint beyond the premises of his novels all sounding gimmicky in that Groundhog Day-type way that a certain subset of YA fiction (and numerous recent films and TV shows) seem predisposed towards. Then again, I (sometimes) like David Levithan, and a number of his novels might be classified the same way--certainly my favourite of his, Every Day, has a high-concept hook. But your description of More Happy Than Not sounds intriguing--much more so than They Both Die at the End, which is the Silvera I seem to see referenced most often, and whose premise always struck me as particularly unappealing. I'll give it a shot.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 2 March 2025 13:15 (six months ago)
I think you’ll find something in it, crypto— the sequence I described above is quite moving, honestly, and though the book does suffer from some of the usual tropes, the protagonist is sympathetic enough to keep them from crowding out our care for him. Also, it was nice to finally read a book about a gay kid whose family isn’t wealthy— the book is centered in housing projects in the Bronx.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 March 2025 14:12 (six months ago)
Reading Fritz Peters’ ‘Finistère,’ a novel that sold over 350,000 copies when it was first released in the 1950s. It’s about a wealthy but sullen gay teenager with family troubles who has an affair with the physical education instructor at his private school. It plays into many of the tropes that these sorts of books do, but has some moments of psychological clarity that are rather astonishing—“Love, Matthew knew, is not something that happens twice. With a singleness not of purpose but of inevitability, he knew at fifteen what he himself might forget at twenty, that love is - he invented the phrase himself - a passport to immortality. Because he did not know or recognize the possibility that love is in any sense mortal, that it can die or fade; because his love for Michel had made him come to life and not buried, whatever doubts Matthew had had about himself and the world around him had been erased.No longer did he dream or fill his mind with fantasies. There were no debates, no questions, no internal arguments. The sense of guilt that had formed questions inside him, pointing an angry finger at him because of what he had learned with André, not only did not reappear, but vanished. What had happened to him, for it was not that he had done anything - he would have been powerless to direct or prevent any of it and had only followed the current in himself and in Michel - was an answer, an end to all fear. He was in love, there was nothing in him that was not open and free to the person he loved, and his separate parts, individual segments of his self which had warred inexplicably against each other, were fused into one whole vital unit.There was no question of good or bad, right or wrong, normal or abnormal. It was as useless for him to pretend that he could make any moral judgment of himself as it would have been to pretend that a volcano had no right to erupt. He had exploded into life, a process that defied judgment. It was not a question of approval or disapproval, acceptance or rejection; he could not have been more dominated by what he felt if he had lost the power of reason entirely.”
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 3 March 2025 12:32 (six months ago)
damn
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 March 2025 12:42 (six months ago)
February's reading was 5 different Steve Erickson books (*not* Stephen Erickson), 3 of which i've previously read, in the 1990s.
Rubicon Beach (3rd read, but the only bits i remember were the last 8 pages)AmnesiascopeDays Between Stations (4th read)Arc D'XTours Of The Black Clock (2nd read)
i remember them being like the non-M Banks books, but i'm not so sure. Arc referenced bits of the previous 3 and had the writer write himself in (only to be beaten up, possibly killed, after 10 pages by neo-nazis). bits of art scene in post-catastrophe LA, hitler as an old man, twins, thomas jefferson and his slave mistress, time travel, lost films, long train trips over the sea, lots of sex. all very confusing, perhaps deliberately.
March is Zola
― koogs, Monday, 3 March 2025 15:26 (six months ago)
(it's steven rather than stephen, but not him either way, but steve)
― koogs, Monday, 3 March 2025 15:28 (six months ago)
Why the fuck am I rereading The Tommyknockers? Oh right, because David Brown is on Altair-4.
― triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 3 March 2025 15:39 (six months ago)
Have to say the Gard meltdown over nuclear power is actually great in terms of how King depicts the mind of the aggressive, mouthy drunk so well you know it’s got to be more than a bit of self description in there.
The thought of the nukes rose in Gardener’s mind – at hours such as this it always did, like a rotting body floating to the surface in response to cannonfire. At hours such as these – and at this stage of drunkenness – the certainty that he must alert these young men and women to the problem always floated up, trailing its heat of anger and irrationality like rotted waterweed. As always. The last eight years of his life had been bad, and the last three had been a nightmare time in which he had become inexplicable to himself and scary to almost all the people who really knew him. When he drank, this rage, this terror, and most of all, this inability to explain whatever had happened to Jimmy Gardener, to explain even to himself – found outlet in the subject of the nukes.
― triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 3 March 2025 15:47 (six months ago)
I read Amnesiascope in high school or shortly after, and found certain images and the overall vibe fascinating and sticky, but it didn't really hang together as a book in the way I wanted it to. Maybe I should revisit it.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 3 March 2025 17:18 (six months ago)
I finally finished the Alice Munro story collection and returned it to the library. This is the one that covers the second half of her career (starting from 1998's _The Love of a Good Woman_ and continuing through 2012's _Dear Life_). I quite enjoyed it and would like to read the collection that covers her earlier career at some point. Her range is remarkable: she can do the more commercial "New Yorker" type stories of sex and adultery, but also can pull off light farce, historical drama, crime and murder, family history (both fictional and autobiographical), and more atmospheric pieces that deal with seemingly minor events and the passing of time.
― o. nate, Monday, 3 March 2025 22:24 (six months ago)
She's got one about about an older woman still in bloom, also with the lightest veil of dementia settling in: not at all melodramatic, just eerie, uncannily plausible, as if I'd already been there (and maybe come back for a while?)
― dow, Monday, 3 March 2025 22:36 (six months ago)
Koogs, I've read all those Steve Erickson books! I love them, with the exception of Amnesiascope. I thought that one felt almost like a parody of what he'd done before. I really disliked it.
― Cherish, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 02:17 (six months ago)
Is that “The Bear Came Over the Mountain”, dow? That one is a definite highlight. It really captures that feeling I get from some of my favorites in the collection. It’s the uncanny sense of realizing how normal it is for things to be weird.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 03:16 (six months ago)
Yeah, she's too good at that. Must--recall--title----anyway, early in there, belle does something odd on the street, but charms an inquiring cop, who waves her on her merry way.
― dow, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 04:21 (six months ago)
The Tailor and Ansty Edward CrossBook about a couple of rural Irish characters by their neighbour. Quite charming.
The Culture of Flowers Jack GoodyI have just read the chapters on the Language of Flowers which were initially a semi fictional piece of French Orientalism written in the late 18th and 19th centuries but I think caught on and became a real trend. This crossed the channel into the English world and then the Atlantic to the U.S. and I read about it in a 60s annual from the sister comic to the Eagle and finally got to read about it here too. But it doesn't really go into it in depth and explain the code flower by flower. They appear to have changed a bit over time too.Interesting book though.
Sarah Blaffer Hrdy Mother NatureHrdy now looking at infanticide as I've got about 1/2 way through the book..
Ugly ThingsBig feature on Bonzo Dog Doo Dah band. Band is just forming at the point I've got to.
― Stevo, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 07:46 (six months ago)
The Language of The Third Reich Victor KlempeterStill working through this too and finding it really interesting. Looking at new coinages tied to the years in question etc. Very good writing.
― Stevo, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 07:53 (six months ago)
Finished ‘Finistère’ last night— I was going to save it for this morning but the final five or so chapters are so shocking and brutal that I couldn’t help but keep reading. I knew how the book ends, but wasn’t sure how dramatically that end would occur.Basically, the final chapters show all the adults around the teenage protagonist either becoming aware of his queerness and exploiting it, rejecting him, or failing to comfort him in his despair over the the former two situations. All of his illusions of love, how it had buoyed him and his spirit, are dashed. It is awful, just awful, but as the quotation I shared evidences, the writing is so superb and psychologically probing that it made the book one of my favorites I have read in some time. (Fwiw, this is not a YA book, for those who might be interested but avoid the genre).
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 11:54 (six months ago)
Going to now compare it to André Aciman’s most famous novel, ‘Call Me By Your Name.’ I watched the film on a long plane journey— it was somehow part of the inflight entertainment options— and mostly remember crying at the end, and the peach scene.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 11:57 (six months ago)
The film improves on Aciman's occasionally fusty prose. I look forward to your take.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 12:30 (six months ago)
My students...didn't really take to Openly Straight this year. Some complaints included the annoying privilege of the protagonist, and the use of ableist language throughout (I'm somewhat ashamed that I never really caught the latter despite several readings). Last time I taught the novel was 2022, when it went over much better (and better still the year before). The times they are a-changin'?
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 13:49 (six months ago)
Wild how I was just having this conversation with my partner about how many students and young people seem unable to accept that characters in books don’t need to perfectly reflect their values. We are in deep trouble if this is as universal as it seems.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 14:27 (six months ago)
Also, your students are wrong ;-)
Konigsberg writes many scenes in locker rooms and on the field. What did they expect?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 14:28 (six months ago)
Some students got this: one made a comment about "literary puritanism" that felt like a polite rebuttal to some of the general comments the class was making, but on the whole, I kinda fear what table fears. At this point, though, I'm more struck by the notion that 19 and 20-year-olds are already reading a novel from 2013 as "dated."
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 14:34 (six months ago)
(I also suspect that, as with my assignment of BPM a few weeks back, a good number of the students didn't even bother reading the book)
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 14:35 (six months ago)
God, what a shame. I would love to be in your class! The only queer lit class I ever took was the one I mentioned upthread, with Kevin Killian in grad school. It was incredible, of course, but I could have used one when I was an undergrad, too.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 17:09 (six months ago)
I read The Juniper Tree, Barbara Comyns. The only remarkable thing about it for me was the narrative voice, which occupied an indeterminate space somewhere between simplicity and passivity. The plot may strike a stronger chord with other readers because it illustrates many of the difficulties that come with women's socially-defined role, but in the half century since the book was written those difficulties are hardly news to anyone who's paid much attention.
I'm about halfway through The Confidential Agent, one of Graham Greene's 'entertainments' from 1939. It almost falls into the category of wartime spy thriller, but it suffers a bit from its extremely vague hand waving about the nationality of the main character and the nature of the fictional war being fought there, even though these events are central to the mechanisms of the plot. Had Greene waited another six months or so, he'd've had plenty of material along those lines.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 19:22 (six months ago)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 March 2025 13:23 (six months ago)
Chalamet was alarmingly well-cast. Besides the look, he's convincing as a boy wonder fluent in literature, opera, punk, history, etc.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 March 2025 13:52 (six months ago)
true.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 March 2025 15:28 (six months ago)
btw I hope I didn't come across as a skeptic. I liked the novel quite a bit: I read it a couple years before the film. From what I remember the last 50 pages made everything click.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 March 2025 16:00 (six months ago)
you came across as a bit of a skeptic but i totally get it— the movie improves on the book. i will need to watch it again when i am not on an airplane lol
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 March 2025 16:24 (six months ago)
Doing some rereading: Our Man In Havana by Graham Greene remains darkly hilarious and moving, the cigarette case revelation really hit me this time. Now it's Muriel Spark, Ballad Of Peckham Rye.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 March 2025 10:34 (six months ago)
At a friend's recommendation James Klise's I'll Take Everything You Have.
Daniel_Rf, a helluva twosome.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 March 2025 14:50 (six months ago)
God, CMBYN is really good: “That morning he went into town alone. Post office, Signora Milani, the usual rounds. I saw him pedal down the cypress lane, still wearing my trunks. No one had ever worn my clothes.Perhaps the physical and the metaphorical meanings are clumsy ways of understanding what happens when two beings need, not just to be close together, but to become so totally ductile that each becomes the other. To be who I am because of you. To be who he was because of me. To be in his mouth while he was in mine and no longer know whose it was, his cock or mine, that was in my mouth. He was my secret conduit to myself— like a catalyst that allows us to become who we are, the foreign body, the pacer, the graft, the patch that sends all the right impulses, the steel pin that keeps a soldier's bone together, the other man's heart that makes us more us than we were before the transplant.”
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 8 March 2025 13:44 (six months ago)
I need to reread. I remember preferring it to the (also good) movie.
I'm currently grading student essays where I allowed them to select their own topic for critical analysis, and I'm struck by how popular CMBYN (the film) remains among young people year after year. What it does right that Openly Straight is, apparently, doing wrong is something I need to consider.
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 8 March 2025 15:06 (six months ago)
I wonder whether it has to do with confusion— so much of CMBYN is about Elio’s contradicting emotions and desires, his willingness contrasted against his fecklessness. It feels raw, real, and… well, romantic. Whereas ‘Openly Straight’ relies on the protagonist deciding to deceive himself and those around him, and though it doesn’t work, it also doesn’t necessarily endear him to a certain type of reader.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 8 March 2025 15:49 (six months ago)
Janet Malcolm’s Still Pictures, slim but just as good as anything she’s done, which for me is as good as it gets.
Also James’s Figure in the Carpet, which I loved as much as I despised Turn of the Screw. It’s basically Ringu with book reviewers, with a VHS swapped for the prize of being the smartest asshole in a small field of assholes.
I used an epub reader that read it in the voice of Burt Reynolds – fantastic (really).
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 9 March 2025 13:31 (six months ago)
I read a book I found i one of those Little Free Library boxes, The Death of Woman Wang, Jonathan D. Spence. It tries to convey a sense of what rural life among ordinary Chinese peasants was like in the last half of the 1600s, a chaotic period when the Ming Dynasty collapsed and the next dynasty of Manchu rulers hadn't been strongly established. It's short and it's history (non-fiction). I appreciated the author's intention to escape the dry recitation of facts in his narrative, but he only partly succeeded.
I had finished The Confidential Agent, so I left it behind in the Little Free Library as a donation. It wasn't one of Greene's better efforts.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 9 March 2025 16:57 (six months ago)
Finished CMBYN— a real gem. I ordered a copy for myself, I have a feeling I will need to read it againsometime
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 March 2025 18:29 (six months ago)
I love the hotel bar conversation over martinis, of course.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 March 2025 18:30 (six months ago)
I’m back on my usual bullshit (reading books by or about William James) with Jacques Barzun’s A Stroll With William James.
― o. nate, Monday, 10 March 2025 00:37 (six months ago)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 March 2025 00:53 (six months ago)
‘What would animals say if we asked the right questions?’ not living up to its table of contents so far, but there’s still time:
A for Artists: Stupid like a painter? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1B for Beasts: Do apes really ape? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7C for Corporeal: Is it all right to urinate in front of animals? . . . . . . . . 15D for Delinquents: Can animals revolt? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21E for Exhibitionists: Do animals see themselves as we see them? . . . . 29F for Fabricating Science: Do animals have a sense of prestige? . . . . . . 37G for Genius: With whom would extraterrestrials want tonegotiate? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47H for Hierarchies: Might the dominance of males be a myth? . . . . . . . 53I for Impaired: Are animals reliable models of morality? . . . . . . . . . . . . 61J for Justice: Can animals compromise? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71K for Killable: Are any species killable? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 81L for Laboratory: What are rats interested in duringexperiments? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89M for Magpies: How can we interest elephants in mirrors? . . . . . . . . . 97N for Necessity: Can one lead a rat to infanticide? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 105O for Oeuvres: Do birds make art? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 117P for Pretenders: Can deception be proof of good manners? . . . . . . . 123Q for Queer: Are penguins coming out of the closet? . . . . . . . . . . . . . 131R for Reaction: Do goats agree with statistics? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 139S for Separations: Can animals be broken down? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 145T for Tying Knots: Who invented language and mathematics? . . . . . 153U for Umwelt: Do beasts know ways of being in the world? . . . . . . . . 161V for Versions: Do chimpanzees die like we do? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 169W for Work: Why do we say that cows don’t do anything? . . . . . . . . 177X for Xenografts: Can one live with the heart of a pig? . . . . . . . . . . . . 185Y for YouTube: Are animals the new celebrities? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 195Z for Zoophilia: Can horses consent? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 203
I take it this is where to find recs for queer YA novels
― but some albums are more equalized than others (Deflatormouse), Monday, 10 March 2025 04:43 (six months ago)
he's convincing as a boy wonder fluent in literature, opera, punk, history, etc
he ought to be, he went to laguardia hs
― but some albums are more equalized than others (Deflatormouse), Monday, 10 March 2025 04:54 (six months ago)
Deflatormouse, this is the place. My favorites since I dove in:- David Levithan, Two Boys Kissing- Bill Konigsberg, Openly Straight and Honestly Ben- Simon James Green, Boy Like Me- Benjamin Alire Sáenz, Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe- Patrick Ness, Release and Different for Boys
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 March 2025 12:21 (six months ago)
I started Nick White’s ‘How to Survive a Summer,’ about a gay grad student suddenly confronted with memories of his strict religious upbringing and a summer at a conversion therapy camp that ended in tragedy. It is beginning slowly, but is finally at a low simmer about 70 pages in. (This one isn’t YA, necessarily, it just looked interesting and had decent blurbs).
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 March 2025 12:25 (six months ago)
My favorites since I dove in:- David Levithan, Two Boys Kissing- Bill Konigsberg, Openly Straight and Honestly Ben- Simon James Green, Boy Like Me- Benjamin Alire Sáenz, Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe- Patrick Ness, Release and Different for Boys
thx! since the titles are promising enough and i fly through these books (between reading heavier nonfiction stuff about my interests), i went ahead and ordered/reserved/downloaded all of these i’m sure i’ll have read as many as i like well enough to finish by the end of summer!i’d also like to read some queer YA novels by women, i will scan this thread sometime soon but lmk :D
― but some albums are more equalized than others (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 04:25 (six months ago)
Last night I read a modern English translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight by Bernard O'Donaghue (Penguin, 2006). Unlike most modernizations this one doesn't attempt to reproduce the caesura and alliterations within each line. The result was very readable and recast the poem into a more truly modern poetic form, while still hewing near to the general form and narrative tone of the original. I liked it. It's still a damn good story.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 19:10 (six months ago)
I read Jun'ichirō Tanizaki's *In Praise of Shadows*. 1) it's made me want to spend more time in the candlelight of my spare room/meditation room and 2) it's cost me a fortune in lacquerware.
Now reading *Intervals* by Marianne Brooker. Brooker's mum was diagnosed with an aggressive form of MS in her 40s. The book partly tracks her mum's extraordinarily dignified and resourceful decline and eventual choice to end her life through VSED, but is also, inevitably, an indictment of the wretched state of disability care in the UK. Brooker was a PhD through much of her mum's final years, so the book is constructed much like (whisper it) Maggie Nelson's work, with critical theory alongside frank passages of memoir.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 19:43 (six months ago)
I'm plodding through Domenico Starnone's The house on Via Gemito, his first dud novel.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 20:23 (six months ago)
d also like to read some queer YA novels by women, i will scan this thread sometime soon but lmk :D
fully admit that I have mostly been reading YA that's focused on boys, both cis and trans, because I don't think it's really my place to write or be interested in lesbian or sapphic-related YA. as a result, most of the books i've been reading have been by men, with a few exceptions. i think crypto might have better recs on that account, tho!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 20:46 (six months ago)
I finished Nick White’s ‘How to Survive a Summer,’ a novel regarding one gay grad student’s experience in a conversion camp as a fifteen year old… Almost Southern Gothic in its characters and plot, there were some rather interesting twists and turns to the plot, but generally speaking, it was just “okay,” and the ending felt rushed. There is nothing worse than when a character speaks about a deep emotional change in themselves, but nothing comes of it except that declaration. Perhaps a good example of a book that could have dealt with less intricate plotting, and more intricate character work. Now I am reading Edmund White’s ‘A Boy’s Own Story’ for the first time— I have really only read White’s introduction to the selected Genet, so I am enjoying getting into the rhythms and logics of his prose.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 12 March 2025 12:32 (six months ago)
I put White's latest on reserve yesterday. I tend to read him even when I want to throttle him.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 March 2025 12:35 (six months ago)
Yeah, i want to read the new one but figured i should read the older stuff first
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 12 March 2025 13:56 (six months ago)
Or at least a few older works
States of Desire is a treat if you're after older Edmund White.
Dipping into Mariana Enriquez's collection A Sunny Place for Shady People; reminds me of Intan Paramaditha's Apple and Knife.
― etc, Friday, 14 March 2025 02:05 (six months ago)
Thanks— going to be honest and say I don’t really care for this book, tho, and might not finish it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 14 March 2025 11:42 (six months ago)
The blithe assumption of privilege and sophistication seems inhered within his style itself, which is withholding and clinical. I sort of hate it!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 14 March 2025 11:48 (six months ago)
Well, okay, I don’t hate it— I just find the tenor of his recollections rather affected in a way that isn’t present in other COA memoirs, even of the gay variety. In some ways there is a sense that I actually might dislike Edmund White the person, and that might be what bothers me so. There is sophistication, reflexivity, the life of art and of the mind— but I simply do not sense an iota of anger or rage or resentment. Maybe White’s childhood was actually like this, I don’t know, but so much of my own— particularly after I discovered my sexuality— was spent with some variety and intensity of these negative emotions, whereas White simply seems to relax into resignation.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 14 March 2025 13:01 (six months ago)
I alluded to your problem a couple days ago -- sometimes I want to choke him. He assumes his readers care about Renaissance art or whatever; his tastes are never, ever vulgar. But I've made my peace with it, mostly. James Merrill, on the other hand, delights me, perhaps because he never lost his camp humor and for using insouciance as a muse.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 March 2025 13:24 (six months ago)
Yeah, I am putting this one down.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 14 March 2025 14:55 (six months ago)
Well, instead, I picked up and finished Shaun David Hutchinson’s ‘The Five Stages of Andrew Brawley.’ Hutchinson is in the same vein as queer YA writers like Adam Silvera, but only because there are premises in his books that take some suspension of disbelief to get past. After that, he is a much better writer than Silvera, and ‘Andrew Brawley’ is no different— the characters are complex and the book does a nice job of thinking about existential questions in a way that doesn’t patronize teenagers but also isn’t too heavy. I like his work!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 March 2025 00:27 (six months ago)
Since he’s the best-selling out of all of the current crop of queer YA writers, from what it seems, I am reading Adam Silvera’s ‘History is All You Left Me.’ It’s about a teenager with OCD whose ex/boyfriend has died tragically, with the book’s form jumping between their past together and the present, post-death reality. One thing that I do appreciate about Silvera is that he is able to depict the studied (and thus false) insouciance of teenage boys in a way that feels natural. Another is that his books often dwell on mortality, which seems to run against many of the other streams of queer YA. As a teenager who lost several friends to suicide and tragic death myself, I appreciate that Silvera treats mortality in the way that he does.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 March 2025 12:45 (six months ago)
I am currently reading Dave Hutchinson's Fractured Europe series, four novels about a near future Europe that's split into somewhere around 100 countries, some of them very small indeed. The first one, Europe In Autumn, takes place mostly in Eastern Europe, with a detour to England, but there's a lot of geographical fucking around, obviously, and toward the end it takes a turn into the realm of imaginary/conceptual countries, not unlike China Mieville's The City and the City. Europe At Midnight is up next.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 17 March 2025 02:25 (six months ago)
not unlike China Mieville's The City and the City
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 17 March 2025 11:52 (six months ago)
I finished Silvera’s History is All You Left Me, and while it does do some really lovely work in thinking about how young people dealing with grief, there are other elements of it that I found really unbelievable, distractingly so. Why do two gay boys in later adolescence, who live on the Upper West Side and go to a fancy private school, have the interests of 13 year olds? I realize I am old and that kids today are different, but still, the queer teens I knew/know were never into this kind of stuff.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 17 March 2025 11:59 (six months ago)
I was talking about it with my partner but I think it’s related to my inability to understand certain strains of nerd culture— like I can’t handle full grown adults who are really enthusiastic about Star Wars. No shade, I just don’t get it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 17 March 2025 12:01 (six months ago)
table, I remember you bounced of October but what other Mieville did you try? I thought October was unreadable too but C&TC is very good.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 March 2025 13:48 (six months ago)
I tried C&TC and PSS— I honestly can’t figure it out, but I think that one part of my dislike has to do with what I view as a high-mindedness that isn’t deserved or very interesting. For me, it’s a common issue with speculative works, which explains why I rarely contribute to those threads on ILB and don’t talk about that sort of writing very much. What’s funny is that I love the work of one of Mieville’s mentors, M. John Harrison, both the speculative and non-fiction.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 17 March 2025 14:19 (six months ago)
fair enough!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 March 2025 14:24 (six months ago)
I've only read a few of Mieville's books and they didn't really stick with me. TC&TC did because it worked as weird noir, and the idea of geography being at least partly imaginary is the only thing it has in common with the Hutchinson book. (Didn't Mieville turn out to be some variety of piece-of-shit? I feel like he disappeared for a few years for bad reasons.)
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 17 March 2025 16:17 (six months ago)
I'm reading Solo Faces, James Salter. I'm halfway through and the ghost of Hemingway is all over this book, mainly in that the inner lives of the characters, both men and women only see the light of day in tiny doses, like inmates in a supermax prison. So far, the women barely exist except to be emotionally captive to the men, whose mystique of inner strength compels their adoration. Where the descriptions of climbing come in, it's spot on. Luckily, there is plenty of climbing in the book.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 17 March 2025 17:17 (six months ago)
I loved Solo Faces
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 17 March 2025 19:58 (six months ago)
Didn't Mieville turn out to be some variety of piece-of-shit?
Seems so! Not that widely advertised though so he still gets a pass most places. Having just discovered Brian Catling I'm not sure I need to read this guy again anyway.
― the patron saint of epilepsy and beekeepers (Matt #2), Tuesday, 18 March 2025 01:27 (six months ago)
I finished Domenico Starnone's The House on Via Gemito, a plod. I'm rereading Thedore Roethkie's poems for the first time since grad school and picked up Robert Stone's Children of Light.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 15:33 (six months ago)
I finished Solo Faces. The story took a turn just past the midway point to became more interesting and more fully engaged with the humanity of its main characters. The Hemingway-esque flavor persevered, but story began to channel the better aspects of Hemingway -- apart from a scene near the end that involved **the main character along with his climbing partner from the past, now paraplegic from a fall during a climb, playing Russian roulette**.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 18:45 (six months ago)
Finished K. Ancrum’s ‘Icarus.’ Honestly, a book with an interesting enough premise for YA— son of art restorer and thief gets caught by son of rich art collector, and they fall for each other— but which then gets bogged down in too many other “issues.” It’s like the author had a checklist— genetic abnormalities? chronic disease? child abuse? bisexuality? Check, check, check, and check. I mean I get it, of course, but as a result it sort of felt like the most annoying sort of dating profiles in novel form.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 March 2025 13:26 (six months ago)
Finished ‘Brave Face,’ a memoir by queer YA author Shaun David Hutchinson. Interesting mostly in how our experiences had some parallels despite an 11 year age gap. Probably would be quite helpful for teens.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 21 March 2025 22:06 (six months ago)
I've seen the name, but I've never read any of his stuff. I'm honestly more inclined to start with fiction than a memoir; have you read anything else by him?
Just got a small pile of QYA from the library--including, finally, Boy Like Me. Will report back!
― cryptosicko, Friday, 21 March 2025 22:10 (six months ago)
I've seen the name, but I've never read any of his stuff. I'm honestly more inclined to start with fiction than a memoir; have you read anything else by him?Just got a small pile of QYA from the library--including, finally, _Boy Like Me_. Will report back!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 21 March 2025 23:25 (six months ago)
Yes, do report back about Boy Like Me!
I liked it.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 March 2025 13:19 (six months ago)
I finished Domenico Starnone's The House on Via Gemito, a plod.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 March 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Funny, loved this book. Finished it pretty quick.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 March 2025 13:27 (six months ago)
I didn't find the father compelling enough, I suppose. The other two novels of his I've read impressed me.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 March 2025 13:50 (six months ago)
Finished Eleanor Barraclough's Embers Of The Hands: Hidden Histories Of The Viking Age last night. Lots of interesting (if occasionally speculative) insight into Norse people's actual lives, gleaned from analysis of clothing and everyday objects as well as runestones and even rune sticks (they didn't use pen and paper, they carved runes into pieces of wood, and some are pretty funny, like one that's a bartender telling a customer, Your wife says to come home, and his response is so poorly carved — due to drunkenness — that it's indecipherable).
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 22 March 2025 15:35 (six months ago)
I made short work of a short work, Skeletons in the Closet, Jean-Patrick Manchette and now I'm reading another short one, Oranges by John McPhee. It's about oranges. It was published in 1965, so many of the parts that were about contemporary orange farming in Florida are now purely historical. For some reason I can't get excited right now about anything over 250 pp.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 22 March 2025 19:04 (six months ago)
what I view as a high-mindedness that isn’t deserved or very interesting. For me, it’s a common issue with speculative works, which explains why I rarely contribute to those threads on ILB and don’t talk about that sort of writing very much. What’s funny is that I love the work of one of Mieville’s mentors, M. John Harrison, both the speculative and non-fiction.
tables, you do still like Heavenly Breakfast and maybe some other Delany, right? Can't think of other titles you may have mentioned.
Now---coming out of convalesce, hopefully---I'm still re-reading Babel-17(1966) very slowly---had thought of Harrison's Slow Glass, even, before your mention of him----slo-mo suits thee young SD's care with each sentence, each word, which usually pays off---emotional subtext of life during extended wartime is strong throughline, though I expect to eventually have probs with some of the good-faith space opera plot-twists again (maybe not! I'm already picking up on stuff I missed the first time) ----and to proceed, this time, through the rest of The Complete Nebula-Award-Winning Fiction of Samuel Delany (80s collection w added commentaries by the author).
― dow, Saturday, 22 March 2025 20:17 (six months ago)
convalescence, dammit
― dow, Saturday, 22 March 2025 20:22 (six months ago)
dow, Delany usually includes enough gay sex in his work to make me like it. He’s also an infinitely better stylist that Mieville could ever hope to be.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 March 2025 00:17 (six months ago)
Currently reading Megan Nolan's Acts Of Desperation (alcoholism and abusive relationships in 2010's Dublin; quite psychologically insightful) and Fighting Stars, a series of academic essays about stardom in the Hong Kong martial arts cinema genre.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 23 March 2025 10:18 (six months ago)
I am reading a novel by Bart Yates, ‘Leave Myself Behind,’ that is alternately classified as YA and an adult novel— I think it’s more YA, if only because the narrator is a foul-mouthed seventeen year old. Other than some of the dialogue being hopelessly unrealistic in some places and deeply embarrassingly realistic in others— a reminder of how the ‘r’ slur was once more common parlance— the plot is interesting enough and the sex scenes are among the best in any of these books
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:02 (six months ago)
I started David Levithan's Ryan and Avery .
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:06 (six months ago)
It's cute.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 23 March 2025 12:25 (six months ago)
Oh, that’s the continuation of a story that begins in Two Boys Kissing! That is the favorite of his books i have read.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 March 2025 13:23 (six months ago)
Finished a weird one after the Yates book, Brian Malloy’s ‘The Year of Ice.’ It’s about a hunky dudebro in the late 70s in Minneapolis with a LOT of family problems and an unfulfilling social life who is very, very gay. He never comes out, he never goes to a gay bar, he never resolves why he is so moody and angry all the time. I guess this is the way it was (and is!) for a lot of people, but while his voice was entertaining and there were dramatic moments that made me gasp, it was a strange book.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 00:42 (six months ago)
Now onto ‘Lie With Me’ by Philippe Besson, translated by none other than Molly Ringwald.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 00:44 (six months ago)
just finished the core books of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accursed_Kings series.
masterful historical fiction that covers the 30 years leading up to the outbreak of the hundred years war, mostly in France but with bits in the courts of Edwards II and III.
clearly the inspiration for the non-fantasy bits of game of thrones. not going to sit here and tell you it's up there with wolf hall as a literary work, but it's not trash either. if you are the kind of person who likes the sound of reading six books about kings poisoning each other and their idiot sons, corrupt popes, etc. then I highly recommend it. (the audiobooks are very well read by Peter Joyce too.)
per wikipedia
The Sunday Times called The Iron King "dramatic and colourful as a Dumas romance but stiffened by historical accuracy and political insight" and a "blood-curdling tale of intrigue, murder, corruption and sexual passion".The Times Literary Supplement described it as "barbaric, sensual, teeming with life, based in wide reading and sound scholarship ... among the best historical novels".
I agree with that!
("the core books" because the 7th volume was published many years after the first six and is a completely different thing. read the first ten pages and gave up.)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 01:27 (six months ago)
Just finished Richard Bienstock and Tom Beaujour's Lollapalooza: The Uncensored Story of Alternative Rock's Wildest Festival, which was surprisingly boring. But if you want to read interviews with a bunch of music executives talking about the rise and fall of "alternative" as a market (first untapped, then exploited to the hilt, then completely burned down), well, this is the book for you, as tales of corporate negotiation seem to get just as many pages as tales of "rock 'n' roll debauchery," yawn.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 01:59 (six months ago)
Finished the Besson, a slim little book with an outsized punch. Some have called it similar to Brokeback in that there is a torrid affair that is broken off by circumstance and one young man’s unwillingness to confront his sexuality, but the comparisons end there.The last fifty pages are just horribly sad.It was made into a movie, which looks like it takes quite a few liberties with the novel. I will have to watch it at some point. Now onto Tomasz Jedrowski’s ‘Swimming in the Dark.’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 March 2025 12:15 (six months ago)
Swimming in the Dark has an annoying moment when the narrator refers to Debbie Harry as “Blondie.” Blondie is a band!
― cryptosicko, Thursday, 27 March 2025 12:45 (six months ago)
He’s Polish, give him a break! ;-)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 March 2025 13:21 (six months ago)
(I write as the son of a Polish immigrant)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 March 2025 13:22 (six months ago)
I've started Dave Hutchinson's Europe In Winter, the third book (of four) in the Fractured Europe series. I've also just received Andrew Berish's Hating Jazz: A History of Its Disparagement, Mockery, and Other Forms of Abuse in the mail. I'm quoted in that one — not hating on jazz, but describing the current parameters of the scene as I laid them out in my 2022 book Ugly Beauty: Jazz in the 21st Century. The book's pretty good so far; I think I'll interview the author when I finish it.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 27 March 2025 15:49 (six months ago)
Finished ‘Swimming in the Dark.’ Some great moments, some predictable ones. I especially like how the narrator spoke of his youth— one thing that many books ellide after brief mention is the awakening of same-sex attraction. It’s always, “I knew since I was …” and then it’s over after a few sentences. Here, there’s an enormous section of the book’s beginnings dedicated to the narrator’s love for and heartbreak over a childhood friend, and it really resonated. I also liked the inclusion of samizdat as a plot device. Now, relatedly, I am going to dive into another book about homosexuality in Communist Poland, ‘Foucault in Warsaw,’ a nonfiction book that looks fascinating.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 March 2025 19:31 (six months ago)
I've been reading Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy, but skipping around a bit. It's not the kind of book to read front-to-back, but I'll probably read well over half before I set it aside. He's an acute sort of guide to the subject, appreciating the strengths and weaknesses of the various philosophical systems propounded, how they develop, are contested, fall out of favor, then are revived in new forms. He's especially good where philosophy overlaps with mathematics and logic, as it often has.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 29 March 2025 19:41 (six months ago)
I think my wife has a copy of that; I'll check the shelves.
Re-read Joe Ide's Righteous yesterday. It's a crime novel, the second in a six-volume (as of now) series about a guy named Isaiah Quintabe (initials IQ), who's sort of a Sherlock Holmes of East Long Beach, CA, but more inclined to kick the shit out of people while solving their problems. I liked the first book in the series a lot, but this one was not as good and I haven't read any of the later ones. Ide occasionally comes up with a vivid image, like this:
"Manzo backhanded her so hard her head did a Linda Blair, and she collapsed like somebody had yanked out her skeleton. The blow was so sudden and violent Isaiah and the other Locos made ooh faces."
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 29 March 2025 20:01 (six months ago)
‘Foucault in Warsaw’ is fascinating— a look at the Polish queer underground of the mid-20th century via state/police reports, denunciations, and other official documents.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 31 March 2025 12:36 (five months ago)
I'm currently reading "The Bostonians" by Henry James. It's surprisingly funny so far.
― o. nate, Monday, 31 March 2025 20:09 (five months ago)
On some days I rate it James' best.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2025 20:34 (five months ago)
That's encouraging. I remember you rated it in the top group when you rated all his novels. I've only read some of the shorter fiction, but decided to try again with the novels so I downloaded the complete novels on my Kindle and read the first pages of a few here and there, trying to pick one to start with, and this one seemed the most inviting.
― o. nate, Monday, 31 March 2025 20:44 (five months ago)
Pulled out a Library of America noir anthology and am reading Cornell Woolrich's I Married A Dead Man, which is about a woman who assumes the identity of a woman who died in a train wreck, and insinuates herself into the dead woman's family. (She feels bad about it, but she's got a baby to think about.)
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 1 April 2025 02:23 (five months ago)
That book rules yeah. Wrote about it on here recently. Good ol' days when trains had freshening up rooms for gals to chat in.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 1 April 2025 09:21 (five months ago)
MarchZola: L'Assommoir - depressingZola: Nana - depressing
― koogs, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 09:51 (five months ago)
Finished ‘Foucault in Warsaw,’ truly an incredible book. In the spirit of keeping in the region of Slavs, I began Mikhail Kuzmin’s ‘Wings,’ which caused a huge scandal in Imperial Russia due to its out and out endorsement of homosexuality. Interesting book so far.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 April 2025 13:22 (five months ago)
I laid Western Philosophy aside for now and am reading The House in Paris, Elizabeth Bowen.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 April 2025 16:34 (five months ago)
Marilynne Robinson's Reading Genesis, her interpretations of the goings-on in the first and best Bible book; and Nick White's How to Survive a Summer.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 April 2025 20:17 (five months ago)
Let me know what you think of the White— I was not totally convinced by the ending, and there were some plodding moments where I felt the hallucinatory aspects of what happened to the protagonist was undercooked, and other times where it was overcooked. Weird book!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 6 April 2025 21:45 (five months ago)
Oh, I'm in the second act and it's a plod -- and this is the heart of the book! I've preferred the scenes where he's on the road.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 April 2025 21:48 (five months ago)
Yeah, and the scenes where "the incident" is explained in full are kind of incredible, really good pacing a build-up....but it made me think that there was a lot of extraneous fluff in the book's first parts.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 6 April 2025 21:52 (five months ago)
Yeah, and the scenes where "the incident" is explained in full are kind of incredible, really good pacing a build-up..
Yeah. And he respects the reader to fill the lacuna.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 April 2025 22:02 (five months ago)
The Sound Of The City, Charlie Gillett - I have a fascination for early histories of Rock, from before the narrative was so consolidated...fun to see what surprising names crop out, what names surprisingly do not and such. Last one I read was Nick Cohn's Awopbopaloobop, which was flippant and shockingly cavalier about calling black artists that Cohn (white) found to be pandering to white audiences as "Uncle Toms". There is thankfully nothing like that so far in the Gilett book, which perhaps suffers a bit from going too far in the other direction, very dry and conscientious. Am enjoying the deep dive on indie labels tho, and no book that gets me firing up The Speciality Store again can't be all bad.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 10:54 (five months ago)
the speciality STORY lol
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 10:55 (five months ago)
Finished Pledging My Time by Ray Padgett, a Dylan book discussed on a Dylan thread. Now starting Amulet by Roberto Bolaño and I am already loving it. The narrator's voice and the connection to The Savage Detectives is going to go down real easy.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 11:33 (five months ago)
I read This Is Memorial Device by David K33nan. The premise is an oral history of a band that didn't exist and, as such, the book functions as a kind of memorial device itself - for Airdrie, specifically, but also the post-punk scenes that existed in various shitehawk towns around the UK in the early 1980s. It's written in a series of stream-of-consciousness, ecstatic voices, full of K33nan's usual obsessions of new age charlatans, Crowley, sex magick and the foggy spaces between dreaming, drug states and visions. A sort of coherent narrative rises out of the murk. It made me think of Radio On, amongst other things. I liked it.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 17:59 (five months ago)
Read Kuzmin’s ‘Wings,’ which was interesting if not as spicy as I imagined it would be, and am now splitting my time between Jenn Soong’s ‘My Earliest Person’ and a re-read of ‘Our Lady of the Flowers.’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:30 (five months ago)
i read aliocha coll's 'attila'. very beautiful novel, reminded me a little of 'modern love' by constance de jong or even hannah weiner - that is, very rarefied and complex language in service of an inscrutable premise and structure. one of those works that feels like you're looking too closely at the writer's mind - fantasy, desire, obsession. he trained as a doctor and so the book also has these very precise anatomical descriptions at times, which remind me of some of the stuff you get in early ballard
i also read halle butler 'banal nightmare'. great book about millennial pretensions and anxieties. v sharp throughout but there's one sequence in particular set at an air hockey table which was brilliant
― dogs, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:55 (five months ago)
Looking fwd to 'Attila'
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 April 2025 12:27 (five months ago)
Currently reading J.F. Martel's Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice: A Treatise, Critique, and Call to Action. It's short.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:18 (five months ago)
Mariana Enriquez - A Sunny Place for Shady People. Short story collection, mostly set in Argentina, mostly horror or macabre/unnerving/supernatural in tone. I enjoyed it but I feel like I was missing a lot of stuff that someone more intelligent would get out of it.― oscar bravo, Thursday, 9 January 2025 21:26 (three months ago)
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 9 January 2025 21:26 (three months ago)
Recently finished this book and feel the same, for both this and The Dangers of Smoking in Bed, another one of her collections. There are some really great horror moments or interesting set-ups in a lot of the stories but I often struggle with the endings, since so many feel unsatisfying to me. I'm not sure I can articulate why. I can live with an ambiguous ending, which a lot of these have, but sometimes it feels like the stories aren't quite finished or the endings are more abrupt than ambiguous.
― salsa shark, Friday, 11 April 2025 10:18 (five months ago)
I finished The House in Paris last night. I usually try to give a brief review when I've finished a book but in this case I don't feel like I could do justice to the book. I disliked it, but my feeling of dislike was based in a visceral dislike of the pre-WWI middle class society within which all the characters exist. It didn't help at all that Bowen's confident and authoritative narrative voice spoke entirely from within that society. I detected no hints that this narrator was not intended to be fully trusted or the author secretly wished to flay her impeccably cultured characters with the withering contempt their presumed virtues deserved. Other than that, it was well observed, almost too much so.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 11 April 2025 16:12 (five months ago)
Why do they deserve contempt?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 April 2025 16:14 (five months ago)
I expect it from Wharton, not Bowen.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 April 2025 16:15 (five months ago)
Finally started Boy Like Me. Fun so far--Green's self-consciousness about the style of such novels is cheeky and refreshing--but I'm assuming its about to get less so.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 11 April 2025 16:29 (five months ago)
Slightly.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 April 2025 16:32 (five months ago)
They deserve contempt because they are imaginary people created by the author as representative specimens of what I think is a contemptible culture. To feel contempt for them is not directed at any real human being and may safely be recognized as directed at the culture that formed them. Had Bowen endowed them with a bit more humanity, my contempt might have been mingled with pity, but it wasn't possible in this case. They were too much like effigies in a wax museum, extremely detailed down to the eyelashes, but lifeless. They had multitudes of gestures, but no personhood.
I had not read Bowen previously, so I had formed no expectations such as yours. If this is what I should expect from Bowen, then this is not a relationship I wish to cultivate. This is a purely personal reaction and not a claim to universality. As I said, the strength of my dislike for the book means I don't claim I can do it justice.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 11 April 2025 17:05 (five months ago)
Bowen's a lyrical writer. The House in Paris is not one of my favorites: The Heat of the Day and The House in Paris are my favorites. I'm just surprised, given all you've read (I think) of this period, that her default tone should be contempt. Contempt is easy!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 April 2025 17:37 (five months ago)
Finally started _Boy Like Me_. Fun so far--Green's self-consciousness about the style of such novels is cheeky and refreshing--but I'm assuming its about to get less so.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 April 2025 01:04 (five months ago)
Reading Simon Schama’s “Rembrant’s Eyes”.Entertaining enough for a biography though seems to be peppered with lots of dubious speculation. This is my first Schama, though, and I’m not quite sure I’m gonna handle 400+ more pages of his consonant schtick.
Case in point :
“The switch from woodland groves running with game, or languid, vaguely Latin scenery…favored by foreign courts, to fishermen hanging their nets…or riders travelling rutted tracks beneath a wer and steely sky…”
This sentence goes on some more. Yikes!
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 12 April 2025 08:24 (five months ago)
*”RembranDt’s Eyes”
what is 'vaguely Latin scenery'
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 April 2025 09:39 (five months ago)
Columns, guys dressed up as Centurions.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 12 April 2025 09:58 (five months ago)
xpost yeah, the book is full of this kind of stuff. BIG "however" is that the guy obviously knows his subject and can spin an entertaining yarn out of what would normally be dry, academic details. In the meantime I'm also reading essays in a couple of good Rembrandt exhibition catalogs to balance this.
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 12 April 2025 10:05 (five months ago)
Started reading Osamu Dazai’s ‘No One Knows,’ which I picked up on a whim recently.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 April 2025 16:10 (five months ago)
I read Caleb Femi's poetry collection, Poor. It's good stuff. I'm now reading Jay Bernard's Surge, which is also excellent.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 April 2025 16:57 (five months ago)
Grabbed two old Thomas McGuane novels, Nobody's Angel and Something To Be Desired, at the library yesterday. I read both 30 years ago when I worked at Barnes & Noble, but they hit different (as the children say) now that I actually live in Montana.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 13 April 2025 01:36 (five months ago)
I still haven't read any Bowen novels, though found The Collected Stories doorstop to long trek, never a slog: born with the century, teen prodigy around WWI, also feeling the 20s, 30s, 40w---WWII really gets her doing---on into late 60s, a few years before she died---what a range of characters, settings, approaches, takes, all long---I'm ready to read it again.
― dow, Sunday, 13 April 2025 04:01 (five months ago)
Reading Musil’s ‘The Confusions of Young Törless’ for the first time, the latest edition translated by Mike Mitchell. It’s quite something!
“Then it was also possible that there was a gate leading from the bright, everyday world, which was all he had known until now, to another stifling, surging, passionate, naked, destructive one. That between those people whose ordered lives are lived out between the office and the family as if in a stable, transparent structure of glass and iron, and those other downtrodden, bleeding people, filthy from dissipation, lost in a maze of corridors full of bellowing voices, there is not only a bridge but their boundaries are contiguous, secret and close and crossable at any moment...And that would only leave the question: how is it possible? What happens at such moments? What is it that shoots, screaming, up into the air, and what is it that suddenly goes out?”
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 12:26 (five months ago)
It's good!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 April 2025 12:57 (five months ago)
I just finished In the Wake of the Plague, Norman Cantor, a rather meandering and desultory book of 14th century history that made me think that the author (a university professor who had a big success with a previous book, The Civilization of the Middle Ages) submitted a book proposal to his publisher, had it accepted, got a substantial advance and then discovered that his proposal was far more ambitious than he had the time, energy or wit to write, so he simply recast his lecture notes and shoved it out into the world.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 18 April 2025 22:44 (five months ago)
oliver harris elliot kane novels -
A Shadow Intelligence is excllent. Spy thriller set largely in Astana, which kicks off with the protagonist seeing a video of *himself* in a few days' time in a hotel in Astana, a place he has never been. crunchy SIGINT/OSINT etc technology and terminology, smart-not-dumb on information manipulation on social media, and generally having fun at the front edge of industrial/political espionage and geopolitics. a slight sense, as in his Nick Belsey books, of a dream logic or forces driving things, bordering but never quite actually supernatural. it's a potent mix, despite some perhaps slightly silly race-against-time explosive action towards the end.
the subsequent novels aren't as good - in fact:
a shadow intelligence (v good), ascension (q good/okay - incidentally odd to revisit this place from a different angle after reading In Ascension), the shame archive (largely bad and unpleasant).
that is interesting in itself, as his nick belsey novels did something similar - the hollow man was excellent I thought, chandler like in terms of a non-detection logic running in parallel with and sometimes driving the main plot. deep shelter was also good, but not as good - however, the UK's cold war nuclear war infrastructure is a hell of a theme and setting, and again, the book uses that theme well to drive psychological insight. The House of Fame - it's been a while, but i remember thinking it was v disappointing in comparison.
curious as to what's happening here - one option is that reading these in quick succession, i just tire of the mode and manner, but i'm pretty indefatigable when it comes to decent genre ime, the other is that Harris only has two-books of decent ideas per property. idk. seems weird. anyway, A Shadow Intelligence is very good.
Also reading Perspective(s) by Laurence Binet but as I'm crawling through it in french it's difficult to comment just yet.
oh and also picked up Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell having *quite* enjoyed Piranesi. i just couldn't get through two pages of it - it's got that 'lightly flavoured with 19th C mannerisms style' without actually having the density actual decent 19thC writing has. i think in different circumstances or in the right mood i might enjoy it, but it was immediately irritating in the mood i was in so i've set it aside for another day.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 19 April 2025 09:32 (five months ago)
I finished "The Bostonians". Not sure I'm quite ready to tackle one of the late James novels, but this one was funny, well-paced, with a number of finely drawn characters, and also interesting to read from a modern perspective given that the romantic hero (or anti-hero? James keeps his cards close to the vest) is an unrepentant anti-feminist (an admirer of women in general and particular, but one who believes that the highest calling of a woman is to please a man).
Now I'm reading "Hunchback" by Saou Ichikawa, a bite-sized portion after the feast.
― o. nate, Saturday, 19 April 2025 18:37 (five months ago)
in your honor I reread the first 100 pages. Structurally bizarre, right, almost 20th century: a third of the novel devoted to ONE night. James, it's true, withholds the full measure of his...skepticism towards the women's movement. He's fond of Ms. Birdseye and Dr. Prance because he reduces them to Dickensian caricatures on whom he devotes the full power of his mid-period descriptive abilities. It's also true that he loathes Basil Ransom even more.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 April 2025 18:42 (five months ago)
He's quite clear how repugnant Ransom comes across at his most courteous, i.e. oiliest.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 April 2025 18:43 (five months ago)
I don't know if he really loathes Ransom. He gets a lot of amusement from contrasting Ransom's Southern idea of courtesy (which includes the deployment of unctuous flattery when the situation demands it) with the much more buttoned-down New England version, but you always get the feeling that Ransom is trying to do what he thinks is right according to his lights.
― o. nate, Saturday, 19 April 2025 18:51 (five months ago)
I thought by the end of the novel it's clear he has enormous sympathy for Verena's potential imprisonment in marriage, no?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 April 2025 18:55 (five months ago)
No I agree that he portrays the romance as a tragic mistake for Verena. It's complicated. Now I want to see the 1984 Merchant Ivory version with Christopher Reeve doing his best Southern accent as Ransom and Vanessa Redgrave as Olive Chancellor, although the age difference between Olive and Verena is more exaggerated in the film than in the book.
― o. nate, Saturday, 19 April 2025 19:03 (five months ago)
It's a dead film: pedantic, literal, with the pace of a slug. Redgrave is excellent, though: she nails the stubbornness, the flighty romanticism, the New England conservative tradition that James pokes fun of. Linda Hunt and Jessica Tandy are well-cast too.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 April 2025 19:11 (five months ago)
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell... i just couldn't get through two pages of it - it's got that 'lightly flavoured with 19th C mannerisms style' without actually having the density actual decent 19thC writing has. i think in different circumstances or in the right mood i might enjoy it, but it was immediately irritating in the mood i was in so i've set it aside for another day.
― salsa shark, Saturday, 19 April 2025 22:22 (five months ago)
Wound up ragequitting both McGuane novels. His style is insufferable to me now, almost as bad as DeLillo but with "drunken, divorced scion of privilege as misunderstood tragic hero" bullshit in place of Boomer mythopoeia. But when I dropped them at the library I found a copy of Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah's Chain-Gang All-Stars. I loved his story collection, Friday Black, so I'm excited for this.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 20 April 2025 00:11 (five months ago)
Finished ‘Young Törless,’ now onto Uzodinma Iweala’s ‘Speak No Evil.’
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 20 April 2025 02:11 (five months ago)
had a similar reaction to Jonathan Strange etc.; same with r.f. kuang's babel
― mookieproof, Sunday, 20 April 2025 02:20 (five months ago)
Midway through Mann's Doctor Faustus, I'm finding it mostly fascinating, occasionally bewildering - I'm not sure if lowe-porter's translation makes the discussions of e.g. nationalism even more oblique than they're meant to be. Also the fixation on a 'national character', usually with a glowing reference to the german one, is kind of silly. (The Magic Mountain suffered from this too.)It's depressing how relevant it is today - when he speaks of the nazi's "crudity, vulgarity, gangsterism, sadism, degradation, filthiness (...) the outrageous contempt of reason, the vicious violation of the truth, the cheap, filthy backstairs mythology, the criminal degradation and confusion of standards; the abuse, corruption, and blackmail of all that was good".
― constant gravy (ledge), Sunday, 20 April 2025 07:08 (five months ago)
― mookieproof, Sunday, 20 April 2025 02:20 bookmarkflaglink
that's interesting and quite reassuring - it's such a popular book, and on paper something i'd quite like - so i wondered whether i was letting over fastidiousness get in the way of broader enjoyments.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 20 April 2025 08:21 (five months ago)
Hungry beat : the Scottish independent pop underground movement 1977-1984 Douglas MacIntyre,Oral history of the Scottish Underground scene from the time of punk to the mid 80s. It touches on some bands from elsewhere who were involved with Bob Last's Fast label including the Pop Group, Human League etc.I picked this up in London on my last trip, read first 100 or so pages at the time. Then put it down in a pile I've only recently rescued it from.It's now my bathroom book so is finally being read.I'm trying to get to hear the bands mentioned as I go through it. Now onto the 2nd wave of Postcard.
American holocaust : the conquest of the New World David Stannard, heavy scathing history of uropean discovery and oppression in the Americas. Goes initially into Spanish misbehaviour and spread of disease exponentially decimating and devastating native population This had happened more than enough as they worked their way across the Caribbean before reaching the continental mainland of the Americas. Then went onto being intentionally sadistic. One wonders what would have happened if contact hadn't happened or happened in a more salubrious, egalitarian way.Book goes onto British colonial contact with the natives further North and a lot more sadistic behaviour. Intentional genocide of various tribes. Though the term genocide is much later. Europeans seeing natives to be either dispensable or to be used solely for labour. So pretty depressing.
Hollow land : Israel's architecture of occupation Eyal Weizman, Book on Israeli architecture and urban development that also looks into the sociology of the oppression of Palestine. Quite interesting.I'd like to know what's in the update of this 2007 book that came out a couple of years ago. I had the newer book on order for an age and it wasn't being fulfilled by the library that has the copy.Now library got me the older version.
Montaillou : Cathars and Catholics in a French village, 1294-1324 Emmanuel Le Roy Ladurie,the closest to first person accounts of what life was like for peasants in medieval France. These are based on accounts taken by a local inquisition at the time so based directly on the individual's personal deposition. Haven't got very far into it so far but it seems pretty interesting.
think I'm reading at about half the speed of last year. Still getting through some really good stuff.
― Stevo, Sunday, 20 April 2025 12:05 (five months ago)
the Iweala book is quite interesting to me— not sure whether it’s classified as YA or not, but its protagonist is definitely a senior in high school. what makes it different from other books of its kind is that the protagonist is the son of two Nigerian immigrants, both very successful and relatively well-off and religious. you can see where the conflict arises when the protagonist leaves his phone at home with Grindr and Tinder open… to delve personally for a second, it’s really only recently that it dawned on me that one of the reasons behind my mom’s virulent homophobia (when I was growing up) and her continued, stated dislike of things that are “too different” is that she was an immigrant, who grew up having constantly to prove herself worthy in this horrible society. being different meant failure, and failure wasn’t an option. in a sense, this is what the book is about: one young man trying to reckon with himself amidst the people who raised him not wanting to understand him, his world, or his desires. the author is doing a good job!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 20 April 2025 12:57 (five months ago)
finished the Iweala, which had an unexpected twist 2/3rds of the way through, then protagonists shifted. not sure how i feel about it— in some ways the book felt like a perfect tragedy, in other ways it felt like the incident at the story’s heart was an excuse to wind the book down when more could have been done.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:32 (five months ago)
I'm halfway through Judith Butler's Who's Afraid of Gender?. Last night I went to bed underlining Pope Francis' remarks on trans people. J.D. Vance didn't kill him: Butler did.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:42 (five months ago)
So the Butler did it?
― jmm, Monday, 21 April 2025 12:44 (five months ago)
boom
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:44 (five months ago)
Haha. I started *Who's Afraid of Gender?* yesterday. Still on the introduction but yeah, ouch.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:03 (five months ago)
Wanna read that Butler.
Forgot to post about Boy Like Me when I finished it, so: liked it a lot, but a bit painful because it would have fit almost too perfectly into my proposed, but rejected, postdoc project. Doesn't mean I've abandoned the project, but reading something so ideally suited towards my research so soon after being denied funding for said project kinda stings. But yeah, I love the use of literature as a covert means of communication, and then eventually as a weapon. I love that that the Thatcher stand-in (the principal, although I guess the character literally named Margaret kinda is too) is not just ignorant and bigoted but gleefully sadistic. As the author's stated purpose is tell a 30-year-old story that could have easily taken place right now, it is helpful to be reminded that these people actually get off on their cruelty. A worthy addition to the QYA canon!
― cryptosicko, Monday, 21 April 2025 15:42 (five months ago)
Nice, glad you liked it, though of course I am sorry it stirred up some ugly feelings.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:51 (five months ago)
Neither your nor the book's fault!
― cryptosicko, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:53 (five months ago)
I am going to begin Lee Williams’ ‘After Nirvana’ today.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 21 April 2025 18:01 (five months ago)
Current toilet reading - Miscellaneous Verdicts Writings on Writers 1946 - 1989 by Anthony Powell (who decorated his own lavatory with a large collage - just the kind of incidental detail Powell delights in in his own reviews). Sample sentence:
The first time I saw Ivy Compton-Burnett was at a party given to watch the Oxford and Cambridge Boat-race from Chiswick Mall.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 19:32 (five months ago)
That's right
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 21:39 (five months ago)
the closest to first person accounts of what life was like for peasants in medieval France.
That’s a good way to put it. I read this last year and can recommend.
― o. nate, Thursday, 24 April 2025 02:12 (five months ago)
I'm currently re-reading The Dalkey Archive, Flann O'Brien. It was the last of his works I read and my estimate of it suffered from my having read the others in near proximity. His re-use of the bicycle conceit glared too obviously and offended me. This was at least 25 years ago. I was young and easily prodded to moral outrage.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 24 April 2025 03:48 (five months ago)
I dedicate these pages to my Guardian Angel, impressing upon him that I'm only fooling and warning him to see to it that there is no misunderstanding when I go home.
That was completely sincere. O'Brien's Catholicism was so ingrained that the furthest he could diverge from it was a sort of hypothetical ironic Manichaeism, expressed in that nasty dialogue with Augustine.
The Third Policeman frightened him, and he seems to have wondered if his subsequent misfortunes in life were a punishment for having written it, according to Cronin. The Dalkey Archive was a safer revision of it. "I was only joking."
There used to be a kind of parallel Catholic culture with novels like Mr. Blue. We have lost the sense of stepping outside the boundaries of Catholic orthodoxy in literature. Joyce did, and one can imagine O'Brien's thoughts as Joyce's posthumous fame grew. O'Brien was going to put Joyce in his place once and for all.
― alimosina, Thursday, 24 April 2025 16:23 (five months ago)
Trouble With Lichen, John Wyndham - Two scientists (one male, one female) stumble upon a lichen that can slow down the aging process. Both keep it secret, for different reasons: the older male scientist because he believes its scarcity will lead to global conflict trying to secure it, the younger female scientist meanwhile believes it will be so destabilizing that institutions will work to suppress it. The man keeps the secret to himself, the woman however comes up with a plan. Shades of The Man In The White Suit, and like that film it doesn't slot neatly into current left/right categorization, capital, the church, government and the union movement all being portrayed as essentially inept. The female protagonist is pretty surprisingly well done, not for 2025 mind but for being written by an older man in 1960 she's a pretty cool feminist badass. Stray line that still hits the target in our time of Rowlings and such: "everybody's prone to regard his local anthropological set-up as a law of nature". In the "of its time" department: concerns about overpopulation and a shocking flippancy amongst the scientists in applying their findings to people who have no idea they're being messed with. There's also a problematic age gap in there, relativized by the novel's central conceit. Anyway this was a very good time!
Beast In The Shadows, Edogawa Rampo - Starts with a woman being hounded by the 20's Japanese equivalent of an incel. She receives letters, and Rampo is very good at making you want the evil bastard to get caught. Mild spoilers: at one point it threatens to become just sort of conventional, kink shaming and misogynistic, but at the very end it goes somewhere else entirely, somewhere quite terrifying.Spoilerless version: if you find yourself not liking where the book is going at one point, I recommend holding off judgement until the last page.
I've also been dipping into the first volume of the Penguin Book Of French Short Stories, a two volume collection I bought because my wife's family has gotten used to giving me French books for xmas and last year I was out of inspiration for names to come up with.
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/319430/the-penguin-book-of-french-short-stories-1/9780241462003https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/319431/the-penguin-book-of-french-short-stories-2/9780241462065
Interesting glimpse at anglo attitudes towards France on those covers. French means naked ladies, if it's modern it still means a naked lady but with weird colours because it's modern.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 25 April 2025 10:15 (five months ago)
I'll Take Everything You Have, by James Klise: queer YA that flirts with noir. I don't think it's entirely successful--the earnestness of the former genre is at significant odds with the cynicism of the latter--but I enjoyed the setting (1930s Chicago) and I liked the protagonist, and in general I welcome more QYA stories set in the pre-Stonewall era.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 25 April 2025 11:23 (five months ago)
Can't say I loved Doctor Faustus, in the end. Being largely ignorant of classical music doesn't help but how interesting can detailed descriptions of fictional musical works really be? And idk, considering it was written during WW2 and the fall of Germany, and features a narrator writing a book during WW2 and the fall of Germany, to me it didn't feel like it dealt with the situation, and the problem of nationalism, urgently or stridently enough. One page of the narrator lamenting over the terrible situation to 50 pages of abstruse allegory. But hey it's probably me who's being basic here.
― constant gravy (ledge), Friday, 25 April 2025 11:34 (five months ago)
I love Mann and have read several of his novels twice but I can't with Dr. F.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 April 2025 11:39 (five months ago)
Ok, I'll get round to the others at some point then (I loved TMM).
― constant gravy (ledge), Friday, 25 April 2025 11:44 (five months ago)
Anthony Price, Labyrinth Makers, pulpy proto-Indiana Jones thing from 1970babout a British historian/spy. Looked like a fun romp, was recently reissued by Penguin, and Price is well thought-of by authors I’m fond of (like John M Ford), but it was kind of low-mid-brow sexist twaddle. It’s a long series and this was only the first book, so maybe it gets better, but I won’t be trying.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 25 April 2025 20:28 (five months ago)
anthony price is so fuckin weird. i actually quite liked the labyrinth makers (yes, v period sexism). but he does really weird concept novels - and by the way weird does not equalgood here. there’s one where the entire plot, the entire thing you’re reading turns out to be a misdirection. another where he decided to do an entire spy novel entirely in dialogue iirc - a greek independence spy novel. i’m it sure i expected anyone to name check price here and it’s made me quite excited to excavate my recollections. (once again a writer who fulfills my desire for the“this really isn’t very good let me read lots more of it” genre)
― Fizzles, Friday, 25 April 2025 22:19 (five months ago)
About to finish Lee Williams’ ‘After Nirvana,’ which has turned sadder and sadder as it goes on. Street kids, prostitution, squats, drugs— all in the Portland of the mid-90s. The author never wrote another novel but is now a theater critic for the Oregonian.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 26 April 2025 12:02 (five months ago)
Now Reading: The Great God Pan by Arthur Machen
Its a short novella, weird Lovecraftian thing - one of Mark E Smith's fave books apparently
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 27 April 2025 13:48 (five months ago)
Lovecraft was an admirer of Machen, via US jounralist Vincent Starret irrc - Lovecraft the great inheritor of Machen, and I think you can track tentacles, horrific corporal corruption, bubbling masses and an awful lot of the comic book horror/sci-fi imagery back to Machen.
and yes, Smith was a fan of Machen - a member of the Arthur Machen society in fact, along with Rowan Williams, former Archbishop of Canterbuy in fact. 'I laughed at the Great God Pan' - taken from a comic book is a line in the track Leave the Capitol, itself v cognate with Machen's Hill of Dreams romance.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 27 April 2025 14:19 (five months ago)
really glad i used “in fact” there twice when i didn’t need to use it at all.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 27 April 2025 15:26 (five months ago)
Thats interesting. For some reason, I always thought Lovecraft's stories were from the late 19th century
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 27 April 2025 15:48 (five months ago)
maybe because they’ve got such a strong flavour of that atmosphere. it’s where he picked it up - his essay on supernatural horror in literature is good for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_Horror_in_Literature?wprov=sfti1
― Fizzles, Sunday, 27 April 2025 16:15 (five months ago)
finished Framley Parsonage. it was down to 8 pages an hour at times, not because it was difficult, but because i'd rather be doing anything else.
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started a reread of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and there's a trollope reference i didn't notice in issue 1, and one for zola's Nana. (and all the schoolgirls are from classic kid's books: pollyanna, rebecca of sunnybrook farm, what katy did... and the schoolmistress is from victorian porn)
― koogs, Sunday, 27 April 2025 18:09 (five months ago)
Recently No Ordinary Spy by Jack Petro. This was really good. I must admit I picked it up once, and then read the sentence on the second page "Shear instinct [sic] brought Winston frantically thrashing to the surface" and thought what the hell is this.
Anyway, the rest of the book is free from egregious whatever the hell that is (OCR error? doesn't look like one]. The tone, entirely surprisingly, reminded me most of (the excellent] Venusberg by Anthony Powell, with a sybaritic fleck of The Ginger Man, maybe. Anyway, it's an extremely enjoyable read, funny - a touch of the comedy of the naïf - with the flavour of accuracy, and it seems it was semi-biographical at least. It has that feeling of carelessness in wartime administrations - there's Waugh as well as Powell here, and maybe also a touch of Peter de Vries. Anyway, a genuine delight.
Also: Seizing Power: The Strategic Logic of MIlitary Coups by by Naunihal Singh. This is an academic work with assiduous citations. The central thesis is that rather than internal competitions of military might, or general contests for popular support against unpopular regimes, the mechanics and outcomes of coups can best be explained as solving for co-ordination problems within a polity's military. Singh focuses on Ghana for his evidence as it provides a series of coups originating from different parts of the military and with a number of different outcomes.
I probably won't finish all of it as it's really only the centrally stated thesis that I need - I don't need to go into the full chapters for each area – but there's much of interest here, looking at the logic that governs acquisition of power in moments of volatility, and how information and information spaces are used to manage that contest.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 27 April 2025 19:29 (five months ago)
Back when Mark E. as Machen stan was news to me---from Rolling Spec:
The Irish literary magazine Poetry Bus edited by Collette O’Donoghue and Peadar O'Donoghue bears on its masthead a Mark E Smith quotation: “If you’re going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly.” The latest issue, Poetry Bus 10, includes my 16-line poem 'With The Great God Pan in Whitby'. This was inspired by one of the memorable occasions of the original Arthur Machen Society, a weekend in the North Yorkshire harbour town when Mark E Smith, singer and songwriter with The Fall, joined us, with his girlfriend. We met at The Angel, where Machen had stayed, and explored other places associated with his visit. MES was a keen Machen fan and wanted to hear about the Welsh writer’s stay there during the First World War, as a reporter investigating rumours of suspicious activity on the cliffs. There was nothing in the reports, but instead Machen filed pieces for his paper, the Evening News, on ‘Wonderful Whitby in the Moonlight’, and on the town’s famous trade in jet jewellery. The stay also inspired his atmospheric story ‘The Happy Children’. The poem recalls some of the, er, interesting incidents of this Whitby encounter with MES. This well-designed paperback offers 55pp of contemporary poetry from a diverse international line-up. (Mark Valentine)Link to magazine in original of this post:http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2022/09/with-great-god-pan-in-whitby.html― dow, Monday, October 24, 2022 4:15 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglinkexcellent! v vaguely seem to remember this being partly covered or mentioned in The Fall fanzine The Biggest Library Yet, tho it’s a loooong time ago now.― Fizzles, Tuesday, October 25, 2022
The latest issue, Poetry Bus 10, includes my 16-line poem 'With The Great God Pan in Whitby'. This was inspired by one of the memorable occasions of the original Arthur Machen Society, a weekend in the North Yorkshire harbour town when Mark E Smith, singer and songwriter with The Fall, joined us, with his girlfriend. We met at The Angel, where Machen had stayed, and explored other places associated with his visit.
MES was a keen Machen fan and wanted to hear about the Welsh writer’s stay there during the First World War, as a reporter investigating rumours of suspicious activity on the cliffs. There was nothing in the reports, but instead Machen filed pieces for his paper, the Evening News, on ‘Wonderful Whitby in the Moonlight’, and on the town’s famous trade in jet jewellery. The stay also inspired his atmospheric story ‘The Happy Children’.
The poem recalls some of the, er, interesting incidents of this Whitby encounter with MES.
This well-designed paperback offers 55pp of contemporary poetry from a diverse international line-up.
(Mark Valentine)
Link to magazine in original of this post:http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2022/09/with-great-god-pan-in-whitby.html
― dow, Monday, October 24, 2022 4:15 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
excellent! v vaguely seem to remember this being partly covered or mentioned in The Fall fanzine The Biggest Library Yet, tho it’s a loooong time ago now.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, October 25, 2022
― dow, Sunday, 27 April 2025 20:35 (five months ago)
I finished Hunchback by Saou Ichikawa. I'm a fan of the trend of 80-page novels, especially when I can get them from the library so I don't have to worry about getting my money's worth. It's the perfect length for getting to know a new author, especially when they leave you wanting more, as in this case. I also finished A Stroll With William James by Jacques Barzun. This one probably could have been a bit shorter, it seemed to wander a bit off topic in the second half, but as a summary of James's thought and significance it felt more on point and insightful than the James bio by Richardson.
― o. nate, Sunday, 27 April 2025 20:50 (five months ago)
James Joyce - Finnegans Wake.
(About 50 pages from the end, finishing tonight) I found it very readable with the ten page chapter by chapter outline in the Oxford's classics edition. It took me two months but that was life getting in the way, actually read a 1/4 of it in the last couple of days.
Understanding line by line is like 1%, on the other side is the sense of humour that sets this internal laugh in me. If you are not laughing with it I would say its impossible, unless you can decode the language but that would take a guide and work, but if you tune in to the humour and the ordinary poetry of a child's rhyme (I would say a lot of it is like a children's book)* then you just glide through it. I didn't think I would ever read this but in a convo with a twitter mutual I forgot there is this music to listen to.
Its a transformation and/or extension of language, but it comes from English and its structure. There are actually phrases of normal bog standard English scattered around and last night there was about two pages of everyday English just to Telegraph this v point.
*I haven't read any since I was a child but it feels like a recovery of a language we lose as we grow up.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 09:30 (five months ago)
For reasons best known to myself I spent a weekend reading the Tom “insane Corbyn book” Bowers book about the Beckhams, who I hate. Fed the hater in my soul. I will not be taking questions, nor do I expect any!
― triste et cassé (gyac), Tuesday, 29 April 2025 11:31 (five months ago)
― triste et cassé (gyac), Tuesday, 29 April 2025 11:45 (five months ago)
My feel is that the book is a language sponge. He used as much as possible from every language and dialect as he could to mock English, but its all done to make him laugh.
A lot of the world didn't but you can only put it out there.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 12:41 (five months ago)
Finished Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah's Chain-Gang All-Stars and Andrew Berish's Hating Jazz: A History Of Its Disparagement, Mockery, And Other Forms Of Abuse. Interviewing Berish next weekend.
I liked Adjei-Brenyah's story collection Friday Black better than this novel, which is about a near-future gladiatorial combat league using prisoners as combatants. Yeah, yeah, carceral state bad, America a capitalist hellscape, Americans addicted to spectacle and greedy and amoral, blah blah blah. One of those books that doesn't ask a single question the reader isn't already sure they know the answer to.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 5 May 2025 17:19 (four months ago)
Yukio Mishima - Voices of the Fallen Heroes. The title story of this brand new collection of stories comes down to a set of fascistic monologues from members of one of those fringe right-wing groups, the likes of which have no chance of gaining power.
This is the stuff. On the page it really works..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 May 2025 21:18 (four months ago)
I finished "You Dreamed of Empires" by Alvaro Enrigue, a quasi-historical novel that takes place over the course of a few days, narrating the arrival of Cortes and his followers in the imperial city of Tenochtitlan and his first meetings with Moctezuma. It's fascinating historical event to think about, and Enrigue has a powerful imagination for filling in the unknowable, focusing on the politics in Moctezuma's court and the hapless lieutenants who have to navigate his fondness for psychedelic mushrooms and summary executions.
― o. nate, Monday, 5 May 2025 22:01 (four months ago)
been meaning to check out the Mishima, thanks for the reminder
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 5 May 2025 22:23 (four months ago)
Slowly reading Jalal Toufic’s What Was I Thinking?. Like most of his books, it’s the sort of thing that feels insane and a little dry at moments and then there are pages or sections that seem to explain everything in the most cogent, astonishing way possible. One of my favorite thinkers.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 02:04 (four months ago)
Michael Leali, The Truth About Triangles: cute Middle Grade novel about a 12-year-old boy navigating his parents' marital and financial problems, his dream of appearing on a cooking show, and his crush on a new boy at school. The second book I've read by this author; the first, Matteo, was more fantasy-oriented, but in both I like the way he writes queer early-adolescent characters. There's nothing in this book that wouldn't be totally appealing, legible, and appropriate for a middle school audience, but Leali's attentiveness to relationship dynamics--between parent and child, child and siblings, child and friends, and child and romantic interest--feel authentic.
Next up: the new Judith Butler, which I am surprised/delighted to find that my local public library actually carries.
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:49 (four months ago)
Yo, Daniel RF! Meant to say: if you want more 60s music writing, try Charles Keil's Urban Blues and Ellen Willis's early collection Beginning To See The Light (two editions now; I read the first). Also, though he's much more of a purist than Keil (thinks young Buddy Guy is too rock 'n' roll), Paul Oliver has some striking takes, maybe insights, in The Story of the Blues Likewise Bill Malone's first edition of Country Music U.S.A., in which he's amused by Johnny Cash dressing all in black, "like a Method Actor," abd "The fact that Cash, of all people," with his hard-scrabble background, should feel the need to so impress us with the image of Authentically Deep Country Artist etc. (also ends this late 60s edition book with thanks to an invaluable collector in New Zealand, reminding us just how hard it could be to find older country records in America sometimes just a few years after release)For jazz, you can't skip Leroi Jones's Black Music and Blues People:mostly short pieces, seemingly effortless prose poetry, and shit-stirring.
― dow, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 03:33 (four months ago)
See also ILM thread Good Books About Music.
― dow, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 03:36 (four months ago)
I just found this note I made from Doctor Faustus - astonishing(ly bad) writing, apparently 'epigonal' means 'relating to, or characteristic of, a prehistoric culture of coastal Peru and Chile'?? (Though an 'epigone' is a follower or successor.) I'd love to know how the John Woods translation renders it. (This is the worst bit in the middle of a huge paragraph):
applying it unconcernedly as free building material and making tradition felt, re-shaped into the opposite of the epigonal
― constant gravy (ledge), Thursday, 8 May 2025 09:10 (four months ago)
how long ago?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 May 2025 10:03 (four months ago)
The note, or...? I made the note (took a pic on my phone) when I read it last month.
― constant gravy (ledge), Thursday, 8 May 2025 12:39 (four months ago)
The note. Thanks. I thought it was older: would've been cool to find a note from younger self denouncing the translation
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 May 2025 12:43 (four months ago)
Got a little bored of the Toufic, so I bought Torrey Peters' Stag Dance at Chicago Midway— a physical copy, in an actual bookstore in the airport, mind you— and have been enjoying it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:21 (four months ago)
Reading Judith Butler's new (and, so far, awesome) Who's Afraid of Gender?, the first 90 or so pages of which are primarily about the Vatican's war on "gender ideology," during the election (or whatever) of a new Pope is kinda jarring, but I welcome the distraction.
― cryptosicko, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:04 (four months ago)
yeah I was quoting those passages in the pope thread last month
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 May 2025 12:22 (four months ago)
crypto and table: more queer YA recs, please!
If you're up for something a little off of the usual coming-out/romance course, I recommend Andrew Smith's Grasshopper Jungle, which is plenty queer, in addition to funny, weird, and gross.
Also, not strictly QYA, but have you read The Boys on the Rock, by John Fox?
― cryptosicko, Friday, 9 May 2025 18:00 (four months ago)
My most recent book was another Eric Ambler spy novel from the pre-WWII era, Epitaph for a Spy. It was OK, but not his best.
I've been noticing lately that I'm very hit-and-miss this year about finding new (to me) books that I really connect with, so I'm re-reading a book I enjoyed about 15 or 20 years ago, The Guide, by R.K. Narayan. This may turn into a trend of choosing to revisit more of the books I haven't read in a long while, but always expected I would read again.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 May 2025 18:18 (four months ago)
I recently finished "Vita Nuova" by Dante Alighieri in the new Joseph Luzzo translation. Excluding the scholarly matter such as end-notes, it comes in at a little under 100 pages, so right in the sweet spot length-wise. Hard to classify, it's sort of a novelistic essay about a love affair which existed almost entirely on the spiritual plane, with only a grudging acknowledgement of material reality, so in that sense it reminded me most of Andre Breton's "Nadja".
― o. nate, Friday, 9 May 2025 22:08 (four months ago)
Psalms
― calstars, Saturday, 10 May 2025 00:09 (four months ago)
Not to liveblog the new Butler or anything, but the passage on Rowling is a dazzling piece of—I dunno—critical empathy? I needed it, especially as Rowling’s public behavior in the last year or so has become particularly despicable.
― cryptosicko, Saturday, 10 May 2025 01:00 (four months ago)
A. G. Mohan - Krishnamacharya: His Life and Teachings.
Great, great book by one of Krishnamacharya's former students, who was taught yoga by him for the last 25 years of his life in Chennai (he died at 100 years old). Covers how he was as a teacher and as common person, and how he observed ethical principles which are underpinned by yogic, Vedantic type philosophies that only now I am investigating in more depth. He really took an ascetic lifestyle -- living almost in the shadows of society while being part of it to earn a sustainable living -- and seemed to really push as far as it could go.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 May 2025 11:40 (four months ago)
Reread The Crying of Lot 49, still so sharp and sweet.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 May 2025 12:05 (four months ago)
I finished Amulet by Roberto Bolaño. I liked the more grounded first half than the metaphysical second half, but came around toward the end and really loved it. I don't know anyone else who writes about kind of mundane things with such weight and dread. His characters wandering aimlessly around Mexico City, mostly talking and discussing poetry, feels so post-apocalyptic.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 10 May 2025 12:56 (four months ago)
Alfred, if you haven’t read TwoBoys Kissing by Levithan, I think that was the most recent QYA that I was bowled over by.I did buy some interesting coming of age novels at my pal Jeff Maser’s warehouse a few days ago— the first edition of Keith Hale’s Cody, as well as Boy by James Hanley. I will be reporting back on them.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 May 2025 14:37 (four months ago)
I did, liked it too.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 May 2025 14:47 (four months ago)
I'm reading and re-reading a bunch of classic novels to help students with coursework.
*Lolita* was a re-read. God, I howled through it this time - at its viciousness, the unbridled glee. I also felt, much like my recent reading of Donne, I was being shown the raw nerves of the form. It succeeds utterly on its own terms - in art, where nothing matters, where everything is allowed. I'm fascinated (or not, I guess) by the fact that librarians across the States reported that the book was often borrowed, but rarely finished.
*The Virgin Suicides* was a first-time read. Eh, I quite liked it. It doesn't really have much to say about its subject but that's the point of the book, really: it's male fantasy. Eugenides does some nice stuff with narrative voice (first person plural) and he can yeast-up language right enough and, like Lolita, despite the subject it's very funny at times.
Now reading *1984*. It's a re-read but as much as I can remember the gist of things, lawd Orwell can be fusty and dry - particularly after the riot of Lolita (and Eugenides, relatively speaking). I've read *The Road to Wigan Pier* in the intervening years and I recognise in that register that he so often slips into - something verging on disgust - when he writes about the working class, that I can't unsee it. No denying the darkness at the heart of things, and the completeness of his vision.
(I took a break to read Roger Deakin's account of trekking out to Barnhill, where Orwell wrote most of *1984*, and not swimming the Gulf of Corryvreckan. God, do I want to go to Jura.)
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 11 May 2025 17:19 (four months ago)
I know what you mean about Orwell. At heart he's a precise analyst of social ills, an earnest polemicist, an honest man of principles, but he has no sympathy for humanity in the raw. He knows this about himself, tries to overcome it in his earnest way, but he never really succeeds. Maybe that's why his one piece of fiction that truly works is Animal Farm.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 May 2025 18:06 (four months ago)
Yeah. And god, the representation of women in 1984 is, uh, rudimentary, at best. I have to look away when he's writing about sex.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 12 May 2025 16:42 (four months ago)
Complete Black Book of Russian Jewry Vassily Grossman and Ilya Ehrenbergreports written up by 2 Russian writers based on witness accounts of German Army progress through the Soviet Union in WWII.pretty heavygoing, this version is 500pp long and has some description of a massacre per page.So this is what the Eastern European Jews had to try to live through but it does not make it prescriptive as behaviour to turn on a different population once they survive. I got hold of this around Xmas and it got put on the backburner and it really is pretty intense. Not sure if it is a good idea to read it now when the survivors descendants are reenacting behaviour way too close to this.Otherwise still reading quite a bit on Palestine.
― Stevo, Monday, 12 May 2025 18:24 (four months ago)
Read a Harlan Coben book, The Boy From The Woods, this weekend. Felt like he was setting up to write a whole series with the title character as protagonist but I'll have to check Wikipedia to see if there have been any sequels. It's typical Coben: rich people being shits in upscale New Jersey suburbs, but instead of adultery like in a litfic novel it's kidnapping and murder and whatnot. The prose was rudimentary; I can't remember a single sentence of it, but I went through it like a bag of caramel popcorn.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 12 May 2025 19:56 (four months ago)
I nearly bought that a few weeks ago. Saw It in a charity shop.
― Stevo, Monday, 12 May 2025 21:52 (four months ago)
finished Stag Dance and quite liked it, especially the titular novella and the second story.
Arrived back home after six days away to find Alan Hollinghurst's Our Evenings had come in the mail, digging into that now.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 20:18 (four months ago)
would looooove your judgment since I uh didn't like it.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2025 20:20 (four months ago)
Interesting, I am only 100 pages in and it seems quite a regular Hollinghurst— race, class, queerness. I guess I should expect more action as I move further.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 14 May 2025 12:12 (four months ago)
Halfway through Casanova's (abridged) memoirs (this is like 1/7th of the whole lot). The guy sure got about!
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 May 2025 19:23 (four months ago)
I'm re-reading The Eternal Frontier: An Ecological History of North America, Tim Flannery. My first reading was a good two decades ago, so only a small amount of the information stuck with me.
It starts out with the Chicxulub asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs and moves forward to modern times (Anthropocene). I'd forgotten that the asteroid came in from the south at a low angle, so that both the shock wave and debris were directed straight north toward North America, basically destroying almost everything above ground as far north as the Arctic circle. Basically a clean slate that took millions of years to regenerate much more than dense fern forests and a handful of amphibian species. Of course I'll forget most of this soon enough, but it is interesting to contemplate the deep past.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 May 2025 01:40 (four months ago)
The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket. Were people back then more tolerant / understanding of all the nautical verbiage? Three paragraphs on the merits of "proper stowage" lest a vessel "under a double-reefed foresail alone" should be "thrown upon her beam-ends to starboard".
― constant gravy (ledge), Thursday, 15 May 2025 12:34 (four months ago)
> Were people back then more tolerant / understanding of all the nautical verbiage?
moby dick
AGP went places i didn't expect
― koogs, Thursday, 15 May 2025 13:32 (four months ago)
like antartica
actually, thinking about it, AGO must pre-date Moby Dick.
― koogs, Thursday, 15 May 2025 13:34 (four months ago)
Prob less a question of tolerance and more that the level of knowledge about sailing was higher?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 15 May 2025 14:52 (four months ago)
I've been reading the first volume of Arthur Rubinstein's memoirs "My Young Years". It helps of course if you're interested in classical music and playing the piano, but so far it's been fascinating as a glimpse of turn-of-the-century upper-class European society in cities like Warsaw, Paris and Berlin. Rubinstein is a sensitive observer of human psychology.
― o. nate, Friday, 16 May 2025 16:32 (four months ago)
The Night Watch series, which added a sixth book at some point. Author’s politics not great Bob!
― triste et cassé (gyac), Friday, 16 May 2025 17:20 (four months ago)
As it was when I read The Line of Beauty and the two main characters were also the names of two beloved men in my life, I found that many elements of the first part of Hollinghurst’s Our Evenings resonated with my own life experiences — I came out late, I had to leave uni in the middle of an exam period because I was having an anxious/existential crisis, I was also on scholarship at a posho private high school… It was a strange experience, honestly, to read something that so mirrored my own experiences, albeit with some notable differences— the protagonist in this book is not white, which adds an extra element to his outsider status, and his mother is queer, and my parents are certainly not that. Anyway, I am interested in what happens in the second section, and also curious to banter with you, Alfred, about what you found so “not good” in it.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:02 (four months ago)
Same here. I'm going to pick up my copy again in the next couple days to refresh my memory.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 19:16 (four months ago)
I should note that of course, if we’re going with UK definitions , I was on scholarship at a posho public school, or what is called a private school in the US. Just to clear that up
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 16 May 2025 20:24 (four months ago)
So was I from kindergarten to 12th grade.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 May 2025 22:10 (four months ago)
I think I have two major qualms with this Hollinghurst book. For one, the protagonist is simply too passive— his racial and sexual difference are issues, of course, but there is never much dwelling upon them. Of course, many people go through their lives in such a way, but the issue is that conflicts sort of rise up here and there, and then deflate without him actually doing anything about them. The other complaint is that nearly 300 pages of the book are dedicated to the protagonist’s life before he turns 30, and then the remaining 175 move at a rapid clip from the mid 30s to the 40s to his early 60s to what I believe will be his late life and passing— in other words, it is front-heavy, and I am not sure this strategy works, despite the fact that as I get older, the first thirty years do seem more substantial and important than I ever thought they would be at the time. Anyway, still have a bit to go and I do enjoy Hollinghurst’s prose and feel tender toward the protagonist, but I do rather think it one of his lesser efforts
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 May 2025 20:34 (four months ago)
My friend, you've nailed my two objections exactly.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 May 2025 20:45 (four months ago)
I finished The Eternal Frontier. I thought it was insightful and offered some interesting perspectives in connecting the similar behaviors of successive waves of new species as they entered post-asteroid North America. I especially appreciated his drawing links between the behavior of the Clovis culture humans who first entered the continent circa 11,000 BCE from Asia and the post-Columbian colonizers from Europe, under the broad idea of "ecological release".
He paints a familiar and grim picture of the present ecological destruction, which unfortunately differs far more in scale than in kind. At the tail end of the book he attempts to inject some hopeful perspective regarding what might be done to hasten repairs to the ongoing damage, but they ring rather hollowly right now. I doubt there are any suggestions he could have made that felt both realistic and hopeful under the present circumstances. The best hope I can muster is knowing that over the long run nature will always have the last word and that life is fantastically tenacious and endlessly creative.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 18 May 2025 21:43 (four months ago)
differs far more in scale than in kind
tbc differs from the ecological effects of the first humans spreading into NA
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 18 May 2025 21:53 (four months ago)
Currently working on Zeinab Badawi's An African History Of Africa, which has pissed me off by starting with Egypt. Fuck the pharoahs, I want to know what I don't know. Also reading Ben Lerner's The Topeka School, which is annoying in a DFW-ish way (more Brief Interviews... than Infinite Jest; so far my impression is that Lerner is crushingly humorless, whereas DFW at least thought he had jokes). Might not make it to the end.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 19 May 2025 00:24 (four months ago)
Lerner is an asshole, by all accounts
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 19 May 2025 01:34 (four months ago)
Read L'usage du monde (N. Bouvier / illustrated by T. Vernet), a classic travelogue from 1953 written after the pair drove a Fiat 500 Topolino from Switzerland to the Khyber Pass, at the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, a trip that lasted 18 months including a long winter in Tabriz, Iran. His sense of place is remarkable and focused on impressions - the road, nature, details, encounters with or without understanding, and their own position as travellers far away from home. It's very mature, full of sensitivity, entertaining. Also it feels like it couldn't be reenacted: the world feels too connected now, the past is truly a different country.
Also read We have always lived in the castle (Shirley Jackson), my first by her and really enjoyed it. Contemporary, witty, more of a black comedy and less dark than I anticipated.
― Naledi, Monday, 19 May 2025 09:08 (four months ago)
I finished the Hollinghurst last night. The ending…well, honestly, it infuriated me, but enough about that. Now I am reading Keith Hale’s Cody, a somewhat forgotten gay novel (maybe YA?) that was lauded by Burroughs and others at the time of its release.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 19 May 2025 12:04 (four months ago)
Oh yeah, I read Cody way back when. Memory is a bit fuzzy, but I do recall one detail that seemed out of the ordinary, in a good way, that I don't want to get into lest I spoil anything (we can come back to it). I read it as YA, but there are definitely details that separate it from the genre--especially as it existed in the 80s.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 19 May 2025 13:28 (four months ago)
Put aside both of the books mentioned above for a day and blasted through Moon Zappa's memoir, Earth To Moon. Apparently both of her parents were huge assholes, not just Dad! Though Dad was responsible for turning Mom into a rage monster with his never-ending infidelities and complete emotional coldness. It's a pretty depressing and infuriating book, but I think even hardcore Zappa fans at this point recognize that the man was extraordinarily flawed so I couldn't call it surprising in general, only in certain specific details.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 19 May 2025 16:33 (four months ago)
I've started reading 1968: The Year that Rocked the World, Mark Kurlansky. I lived through it. I was 13 years old. I read the daily newspaper, w weekly news magazine (Time), and watched network and local news on weekdays, so I was very aware of all the shit that went down that year, day by day and week by week. It was grim and relentless, but I was insulated by my age and surroundings; it was all happening 'out there somewhere' in the adult world I hadn't yet joined. Not sure how I'll feel about a lengthy revisit to that time, but I'm game to give the book a chance and see what comes of it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 19 May 2025 18:53 (four months ago)
I was living in the Deep-ass South, midway between two racial hotspots, and remember the rest as you mention; I'll pass on that one for now.
L'usage du monde sounds awes, hope to find it in English. Speaking of We Have Always Lived in The Castle, I finally read it also, the edition w Lethem afterword, which is excellent (there should be many more afterwords, fewer forewords).
― dow, Monday, 19 May 2025 19:20 (four months ago)
Karen Russll's short fiction, incl. some of the stories collected in Orange World(2019), has increasingly tended to meld magic realism with consistently too-real eco-concerns. Her recent novel, The Antidote---the second ever; I haven't read 2011's Swamplandia!---eventually moves past said meld into razory wide-screen history. the kind you can look up, as a Polisn immigrant to the Great Plains recalls "germanization" and expulsion, with Bismarck quotes along the ones of, "The Pole has his nature and I have mine; I don't mind. But we shoot wolves." The immigrant sees how this relates to treatment of the Indiians (called that here by Indian Agents, Progressive schoolteacher, and everybody else, except some of the Indians). he gradually finds himself participating in this treatment, at first by perceived necessity, and then some.His son, a modern (Dust Bowl) man, finds out about this, and wants to make amends--wants his neighbors to too!The preceding and following magical realism becomes overshadowed, and some of the latter even lapses into "fantastical conceits," as the author cheerfully mentions in her afterword (not what I meant by xpost "there should be many more afterwords.")I wish that her sacrifice had gone in the opposite direction: that she had published the immigrant's narrative as a short novel etc--could have had so much impacted, granular power, and some of the better chapters might have worked individually or as related stories as well.I don't know, I may re-read the whole thing, now that I know what's going to happen. It's certainly better than her fellow (punkier) short fiction ace Kelly Link's debut novel, The Book of Love, which I did finish, but almost wished I hadn't (still a loyal follower of both writers, will stick to the stories for now).
― dow, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 02:26 (four months ago)
"Bismarck quotes along the lines of," that is.
― dow, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 02:36 (four months ago)
Karen Russell, there's a name I haven't heard in a while! Loved Vampires In The Lemon Grove
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 09:38 (four months ago)
finished the narrative of arthur gordon pym, i concur with poe's own later assessment - it is very silly. and racist.
― the wrong witch roams the earth (ledge), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 12:54 (four months ago)
Swampland was good. At one point it was under development by HBO, IIRC.
Taking a break from grad school w/ some pleasure reading. Nothing ambitious, but a good run.
God of the Woods - Liz Moore. Standard missing person fare, starts like a traditional mystery and turns into a sad domestic thing. Great historical setting in the Catskills among stupid rich people. Good time, but I dread the po-faced adaptation. Martyr! - Kavah Akbar. Meh. Comfortable midlist fiction that feels like it comes out of a small press ca. 2005. Too many elements, beginning doesn’t match up with end. I liked it enough.Absolution - Jeff Vandermeer. Gross, disturbing, violent in all the ways I like. Read it in two halves, separated by a month. Something about the way Vandermeer writes gives me the heebie jeebies. I think it’s a trifecta of his experimental language, deep knowledge of weird fiction, and pulpy grossness. Good read.Malarkoi - Alex Pheby. In progress. I like this more than Cities of the Weft #1: Mordew. At times it almost settles into the rhythm of regular fiction, before remembering it’s somewhere between Dickens, Peake, Wynn-Jones.Also working my way though X-Men (Uncanny, New, Legacy, New Mutants, Marauders, X-Force, etc.) 2001-2011.
― america's favorite (remy bean), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:57 (four months ago)
Figured I'd give Vineland a try. A hundred pages in and it reads like a first draft of Inherent Vice.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:03 (four months ago)
it’s very vague. i love pynchon’s silly stylistics, but vineland feels like the fermented mash from which a better whiskey is later distilled.
― the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:10 (four months ago)
I'm not saying it's better than Inherent Vice, but it's Pynchon's themes at their most distilled. Maybe because it's the closest to the present (I haven't read Bleeding Edge). Vineland has grown in my recollection in the years since I read it.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:42 (four months ago)
It's rough going.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:50 (four months ago)
Finished Keith Hale’s Cody, a pretty decent book with some elements that were really lovely, some that seemed… implausible, and one that certainly precludes it from being included in the QYA canon— namely the fact that the narrator, a 17 year old boy, has an affair with his little brother’s best friend, a 14 year old boy.Now, don’t get me wrong— the first boy I kissed was three years older than me, and my first boyfriend was 18 and and i was 23, so the idea of a freshman and a senior in high school getting together isn’t totally creepy or weird to me, if I am being honest, but that kind of thing does NOT fly with contemporary audiences. Alas, they’re missing out on a pretty decent (if ultimately tragic and weirdly timely) book.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 00:57 (four months ago)
It is possible that I am mixing Cody up with some other 70s/80s queer adolescent novel I read around the same time, but what I was referring to upthread about "one detail that seemed out of the ordinary, in a good way" was what I recall as a laissez-faire attitude towards homosexuality, and adolescent homosexuality in general.
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 20:34 (four months ago)
*in particular
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 20:38 (four months ago)
yeah, it was pretty laissez-faire!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 21:06 (four months ago)
Speaking of laissez-faire, I recently read a substantial share of science fiction, from the 60s and early 80s, in which principal players were het-active, at least currently, but queerness was a given in the social contest they star trekked around and through--queerness in the pan, poly, rainbow spectrum sense.The 60s author I have in mynd is none other than young Sameul Delaney, early 80s author is Eliabeth A. Lynn, then in her early 30s. seems like. Whch might have something to so with why her The Sardonyx Net is better brewed than his award-winning apprentice fiction, and if, so ain't fair, but that's life, and this fan's judgments (also, he likes his characters to get into info dumps and lectures, then he does some of it too, in third person-.
― dow, Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:54 (four months ago)
Sorry for typos! Read wicked shrewd The Sardonyx Net, and Kid Delany's Babel-17.
― dow, Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:59 (four months ago)
Not that these are the only SF authors who could operate in this way, just the ones I've most recently come across.
― dow, Thursday, 22 May 2025 02:08 (four months ago)
Oh yeah, and Lynn has long, maybe always, presented herself as gay af/Delany.
― dow, Thursday, 22 May 2025 02:10 (four months ago)
Will probably finish James Hanley’s Boy today. A strange book with a lot of queer undertones, it was the subject of an obscenity trial in the 30s for its depiction of sexual assault. In many ways it is a typical bildungsroman, but set at sea, and in this sense, it is very successful— gets the confusions and uncertainties of early adolescence down very well.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 23 May 2025 12:43 (four months ago)
Been meaning to read that one forever.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 23 May 2025 16:11 (four months ago)
What are Denton Welch's books like?
― dow, Friday, 23 May 2025 18:01 (four months ago)
I have only read In Youth is Pleasure, which I enjoyed— lush prose.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 23 May 2025 18:12 (four months ago)
i am i think on record as saying that i like them. lush is the best word, but also sharp and wry as well. he is at one level just an extremely good writer - precise, and interested in conveying unique intersections of the material world and our experience in it. There is a strong post fin-de-siècle aesthetic element and i would strongly recommend reading him in conjunction with Jocelyn Brooke, who is also extremely funny, futilitarian - Welch is much drier, fastidious almost, but not without a touch of the gothic. A Voice Through a Cloud - his memoir - is exceptional i think.
― Fizzles, Friday, 23 May 2025 18:20 (four months ago)
sorry - “autobiographical novel” - it’s been a while. similar to brooke the fluid relation of his writing to his life was a mode in itseld
― Fizzles, Friday, 23 May 2025 18:22 (four months ago)
I expect we will see more of this if people aren't careful.
― alimosina, Saturday, 24 May 2025 22:57 (four months ago)
Thanks yall---most appealing takes on Welch I've seen, will check out Brooke too: "futilitarian"? Awright!
― dow, Sunday, 25 May 2025 04:55 (four months ago)
]The Image of a Drawn Sword is his best novel. I really like his autobiographical Orchid Trilogy as well. I did write a fairly long piece on his four story A Private View here, which is also something of an introduction to him, if you're interested (it also briefly touches on Denton Welch).
― Fizzles, Sunday, 25 May 2025 11:31 (four months ago)
Is Brooke as homoerotic as Welch? asking because reasons.I finished Hanley’s Boy, and it’s an interesting book— oddly enough, the storyline itself didn’t depress me as much as the fact that it felt so familiar depressed me. A boy from an unlucky, abusive household runs away, tries to make good in the adult world at too young an age, then falls into a fatal mistake. I guess I have seen and still see this happening with so many young men— they are trying to be hard and adult-like but they’re still kids, and need help that they don’t know how to ask for. I actually do think there’s a crisis for boys in our society, and the fact that this crisis has persisted for so long is deeply depressing. (I think that many reasons why there is resistance to the crisis is that so many of the solutions offered are noxious and reactionary, but they don’t have to be like that!)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 May 2025 11:49 (four months ago)
Anyway, for the next few weeks I am taking a course for library school on YA lit, so will be reporting back on the twelve YA books I have to read over the next ten weeks. In the meantime, I’ve started in on the textbook by Michael Cart, Young Adult Literature , which is quite engaging.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 May 2025 11:52 (four months ago)
xpost - not as homoerotic no. i’m struggling to find the right way of phrasing it, but his erotic impulses are not exactly repressed or sublimated, but sort of *diffused*, even “canalised” would suggest too much energy or intent. he finds the course of young men’s lives fascinating, a matter of deepest interest and curiosity - seeing an initial beauty of character and life, immensely appealing, turning into something else, less fine, over the years. what is happening here?in the image of a drawn sword and other writings the military life holds a great deal of appeal for him - an ordered male society, managing feelings of alienation and futility. he is an aesthete, unquestionably, the fin-de-siecle is clearly present in his approach and Firbank an immediate influence. but he is spiritually, emotionally and actually reticent. in fact “reticence” is probably the most overriding characteristic. this would all be a disaster i think if it weren’t for his ability to hold all of this in his writing in ironic form - bringing self-awareness, a sort of tension of the unspoken, to everything. the clear relish of welch’s explicitly expressed homoeroticism though? no.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 25 May 2025 12:14 (four months ago)
Looking forward to these reports!
Cart is an important scholar in the field of YA, and has written extensively on queer YA in particular.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 25 May 2025 13:36 (four months ago)
Reread The Crying of Lot 49, still so sharp and sweet.― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, May 10, 2025
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, May 10, 2025
And the brevity, the compression, like a compact make-up mirror in a palm, was always part of thee beguiling, from the first time I read it, in high school, when I wasn't reading much besides liner notes and a few music mags. The short stories, collected as Slow Learner benefit as well, even if you just think of them as apprentice---and his intro is a trip of course, though he says of Crying(quoted by wiki)
...specifically does not believe he maintained a "positive or professional direction" in the writing of The Crying of Lot 49, "which was marketed as a 'novel', and in which I seem to have forgotten most of what I thought I'd learned up until then".[7]
― dow, Sunday, 25 May 2025 22:42 (four months ago)
Read two books this weekend: Stephen King's Holly (a detective novel featuring a protagonist who's featured in at least two of his other books, maybe more) and Gus Moreno's This Thing Between Us (a horror novel about grief and mourning). Both good. More interesting use of language in the Moreno, and some good concepts too, but I'm not sure it hung together 100%.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 26 May 2025 00:29 (four months ago)
apologies for the long post, it also contains some very bad writing not even just my own
Wish I Was Here: An Anti Memoir - M John Harrison's memoirCommedia Mortale - Wayne Holloway
Similar books in some respects. Both consist of a flow of observations, which accumulate around themes, dissolve and re-coalesce in different shapes, providing, or so you hope some sort of overall sense of meaning on the tide.
M John Harrison's is actually enjoyable, without ever being great or anything. Things it is not or doesn't do: 'A masterpiece' Helen Macdonald, 'Will leave you profoundly changed' lol Jonathan Coe, 'Hilarious (non) and haunting (meh maybe just about)' William Gibson, 'Dazzling' Deborah Levy.
What it is: an enjoyable enough read in the company of a congenial enough person who has spent his life writing and thinking about writing. You certainly wouldn't mind him telling you all this over a drink (does he drink? I suddenly realise I'm not sure and after reading an entire memoir too. how's that?) And I'm pretty amenable to his approach to writing, which is Romantic and non-programmatic or modern literary, and it's the bits on writing that I found most engaging.
I enjoyed his ontology of people and things which go against the narrative or moral expectations and mechanics we expect to find in so much (it is imv almost impossible to find television, for instance, that doesn't conform fairly rigidly to these narrow expectations).
Losers. Saps. People who don’t want anything much. Frail people, fragile people. Motiveless people (unless they’re evil). Broken people. People who won’t heal. People who can’t heal. Passive people. Disordered people. People who can’t stop themselves being bullied. People whose bullies don’t come to harm in the final chapter. People whose weaknesses of character aren’t balanced by corresponding opposite characteristics, or who are not redeemed by acceptable chains of events. Unacceptable chains of events. People who are too much this or that. People who won’t reason. People who are too rational. People whose puzzlement never lifts. People whose actions ‘don’t teach us anything about ourselves’. People I can’t identify with. People who walk away from their own narrative. People who are swept away by events (unless they’re subsidiary characters). Events that are too like reality to be interesting. Events that are too like reality to be true. Events that don’t seem familiar enough, even though they are set in a galaxy far away or in the very far future or in a civilisation of alien beings who look like plastic ducks but are in reality vortices of pure vacuum energy with goals utterly dissimilar to your own. Behaviour you really can’t understand. Sequences that don’t complete. Ideas that don’t ring true. Lack of verisimilitude. Lack of telos (see ‘dissimilar to your own’). Lack of common sense. Lack of a sense that this story is our story. Genuinely unpredictable events. Genuinely meaningless events. Anything obviously unacceptable that’s also funny.
etc etc for a few pages. yeah, whatever *did* happen to the saps and losers you find fronting the narratives of film noir, Jim Thompson and Elmore Leonard. People who are losers and lose?
He might have done better to have a bit less of the anti and a bit more of the memoir, as the mode and style feel... lazy, frankly. One thing an MFA will teach you is the importance of focus and work on the elements of fiction writing – Annie Dillard is good on this – and while I like it when writers completely ignore all of that, you've got to do a hell of a lot of magic to sustain to carry it off. Anyway, I don't mind, it's an easy read, even if it's just a constant flow of thoughts, observations, descriptions and notes.
Commedia Mortale however. There are some people who don't believe that the thing of throwing a book across a room is anything other than a made-up action deployed for the purposes of exaggerating a critical response. I would say to those people have you never read a book where the schtick just becomes *too* much? Where you keep going and keep noticing things, with increasing irritation? Where finally you encounter a particularly egregious example of one of the many irritations that have been accumulating and go "oh, fuck OFF" and frisbee the usefully non-fragile book into the corner? Have they never read Commedia Mortale?
Here's a thing - words cannot express the wariness with which i approach a new book. unless it's a classic where the approach is more rolling sleeves up and going 'ok, let's see what *this* is all about', my default is a very high level of wariness. Possibly even more so with a writer I already like.
So, yes, incredibly wariness with which I approached the first chapter. The writing was terribly sloppy, often taking work to understand, y'know, basic things like the subjects and objects at play, or things that began with captial letters and ended with full stops not actually being sentences, lacking a verb, because this was more about the flow of the narrator's internal thoughts and sensations. But weirdly that first chapter won me over! The sloppiness mixed with the weirdly uncertain mystical or symbolic status of a couple of additional characters produced unease, and the sentences, which were difficult to nail down, somehow opened you up to some interest in how things were going to continue.
And then the book never follows on from that. It basically becomes about a small Italian village where the 'narrator' has a holiday home, and just his thoughts, observations, sensations, associations that come from that. Never has a book more vividly been written by the author, in a holiday home, in Italy, because he has no creative juices to come up with anything coherent or meaningful.
There is a *lot* of what I would call 'pre-writing' in it - there's a lot of this about anyway with the prevalence of the internal voice in lit:
I love the smells of winter – steaming bowls of stew, pasta with sausage, piping hot polenta, piping hot coffee, cigarettes, mulled wine – and walks up the mountains on crunchy snow in bright sunshine and the wrong shoes. Time congeals in the winter, cold fat in the pan, slowly melting into the present; the past materialises. You sense it in the flames from the fires, stoves and pellet burners in every home, bar and restaurant. The sense of it sustains us. You can smell it and hear it in the sharp crackling of dried olive wood, spitting embers on to the stone floor. Hardwood burns fast, softwood oozes resin. Each wood burns according to its character and seasoning. Wood fizzes, smokes and sputts when wet, snaps and pops when dry, as if more agile. Cherry, ash, oak and birch. [yes my man, these are woods] et cetera et fucking cetera
You are literally accumulating the stuff that you will need to have mentally and emotionally available in order to write imaginatively, but *this is not in itself writing*. It's the pre-work. You can allow it as a mode obviously - no reason not to, but you need to be doing far far more than just this to make it worth reading. It is writing as GenAI prompt, and collectively as humanity we're going to need to get a lot better at creativity if we're not going to civilisationally drown in the slop or lose critical and artistic range and function in the way that the techniques of grecian sculpture were lost, with only some artefacts - like the second toe being longer than the big toe - being left over as a remnant, a reminder of something but no one can remember quite what.
Incidentally, strong candidate for one of the worst paragraphs of writing you will read this year:
Eventually I discover the location of the second church and its bells up on the ridge of the mountain behind us, in a mostly deserted village. How did I miss that? I'm not a huge walker but it's only a half-hour hike up through the olive terraces. When I get to the top I am exhausted, take a long drink from a water fountain, literally quenching my thirst. Sure enough, there is an old derelict church, on a narrow promontory overlooking three valleys. *A place of greater safety*, I think for no reason. You could hold out up here for a long time, or indeed be cut off and starved out. What do I know of such things?
it's perfection in its own way. i thought 'literally quenching my thirst' would be the chef kiss moment at the end of the self-evident irrelevance of much of the first bit, very long dead metaphor being subjected to a gruesome and belaboured resuscitation, but then you get *A place of greater safety*, I think for no reason. Which is a pure adrenaline hit of 'did anyone *read* this before publishing?'. Perfect conclusion with 'What do I know of such things?' fucked if i know mate.
Until I looked this up I had somehow forgotte that this is then followed by THREE WHOLE PAGES of him grappling with and not understanding the phrase 'it's an ill wind that blows nobody any good'.
Wayne Holloway 'started his career making music videos for the likes of Sinead O'Connor, Aswad and Shane McGowan, before moving into commercials and film work'. I'd like to think this should give him a better base to work from tbh. Percival Everett no less described his novel Our Struggle as a 'smart work that offers no easy answers' where 'the conversational, high-energy prose causes one to open the gates and then all hell breaks loose'. However, Everett was an Influx stablemate of Holloway's at the time and although he makes it sound appealing, I think I'll leave it for someone else to let me know if it's worth reading.
― Fizzles, Monday, 26 May 2025 09:16 (four months ago)
I liked the Harrison book a bit more than you, Fizzles, but I am also a climber, and so some of the weirdnesses and oddities of the book can be explained by his persistent use of climbing as narrative device. Thanks for the info on Brooke!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 26 May 2025 11:57 (four months ago)
Pindar - The Complete Odes. I have never read much poetry around competitive sports. Not something many poets today would engage in at all! Something that feels kinda basic, now long lost..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 May 2025 19:52 (four months ago)
I'm nearing the end of Kurlansky's 1968. It's fine, really, but he has a tendency to drift into lengthy side bars, such as explaining the origins of the Mexican PRI and the failed land redistribution movement of Zapata before arriving at the political protests at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics.
He also seems to shoehorn Alan Ginsburg into every chapter, quite unnecessarily, because if anyone was beyond marginal to all the important historical moments and movements of 1968, it was a washed-up, self-promoting beat poet who wrote nothing of interest during the entire decade, but liked to hang out anywhere he could be seen by the media.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 02:10 (four months ago)
Rereading Chinua Achebe, Anthills Of The Savannah. First time 'round I was struck by how much I could identify with the political reality portrayed - the tinpot dictator's regime not feeling too distant from Portuguese democracy at the time - the immense inferiority complex, the starry eyed idolization of Western "betters", the childish nationalism coupled with actual disdain for the population of said Great Nation. This time I'm focusing more on the personal: this is also the story of a childhood friendship gone sour in adulthood, between the dictator, the editor of a national paper who insists on criticising him, and the information minister caught in the middle. Great book.
Tangent: I was telling my father in law about Achebe (he's French-Lebanese, grew up in Senegal, mother from Cape Verde), whom he was surprised not to know of, having read quite a bit of African literature. So I thought a nice copy of Things Fall Apart would be a good idea for a gift, but all I could find in French was PDFs and long out of print books. This is baffling to me considering Achebe's stature in Nigerian literature. Usually I am surprised by the opposite, French lit being much better at translating Portuguese language authors from all corners of the world than the anglosphere is.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 09:11 (four months ago)
That's incredible to me. I would have generally assumed Things Fall Apart was fundamental to a canon of post-colonial literature in western countries. clearly not!
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 13:12 (four months ago)
Read a Middle Grade novel called Al Capone Does My Shirts, by Gennifer Choldenko, for my friend's Disability and Children's Literature course, in which I am filling in for her this week. About a family living on Alcatraz in the 1930's (the father works there), and in particular the 12yo protagonist's experiences caring for his autistic older sister (though it wasn't called autism yet, of course). The title refers to how some of the other kids who live on the island attempt to exploit the presence of its most famous resident, though I was a bit let down by how little was done with that premise (the author seems reasonably hesitant to make Capone anything like a hero or a cuddly character in the story). Otherwise, fine--I like how the author doesn't treat the character's autism as a problem to be solved, or a code that needs to be cracked, or anything like that. There's a sequel that I doubt I'll ever read.
Also finally reading The Well of Loneliness, by Radclyffe Hall, which I've been meaning to get to forever. I'm liking it a lot so far, despite the author's adherence to the prevailing early-20thc psychological "wisdom" re: homosexuality (the endnotes in the new Oxford World's Classics edition painstakingly detail every connection to the writings of people like Krafft-Ebing and Havelock Ellis). Hall's writing is frequently lovely, at times heartstoppingly so; I was genuinely choked up by a scene where the protagonist has to euthanize her horse. (Shut up.)
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 14:09 (four months ago)
tbf both amazon.fr and fnac.fr have the English language edition easily available, but yeah, no french version in print afaict.
has me thinking how much canons of African fiction must be slanted towards what countries were colonised by which powers and how different these might look in countries of different languages
xpost
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 14:12 (four months ago)
Surely we have a few classics from Francophone Africa in the post-colonial canon that are yet to be translated into English, but this is much more in expectation because whenever I look at novels yet to be published into English there is often a French trans. already.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 14:28 (four months ago)
Yeah that's it pretty much - I assume the anglosphere to not have translations of most things, and I expect France to have translated pretty much everything. So this was a surprise.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 14:41 (four months ago)
I finished Daughters of Yalta and started Karen Powell's Fifteen Wild Decembers, a novel about Emily Brontë.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 14:48 (four months ago)
I read The Children of Men by PD James. It's not very good. Naturally, anything would suffer in the face of Cuarón, but it just feels so petty and British in scope. There's a thin attempt at folk horror at the end but it doesn't amount to much.
Now reading Antonia White's *The Lost Traveller*, the sort-of sequel to *Frost in May*. It feels like literature as revenge - against her parents, the stifling class system that enveloped her, the Catholic church, herself. At times, White is so waspish and laceratingly, you're almost torn from the page. I wince for anyone reading this and recognising themselves.
The central character in the quartet, is Clara. She's returning from Convent school to be with her parents. Her grandfather has just died' Here we see the grandmother, through the eyes of Isabel, Clara's mother.
It was only with great effort that Isabel could bring herself to touch her mother-in-law. After living in the same house with her for over ten years, the morning and evening kisses were still an ordeal. The very appearance of the old woman was an affront to her eyes. Ellen Batchelor was barely five feet high and cruelly misproportioned. Her large flattened head was dumped down on the narrowest of shoulders; her enormous stomach thrust forward in a solid mound below the tiny bust which she had compressed since her girlhood in iron stays. Her broad plump face was as white as lard and the irises of her dull brown eyes were rimmed, like onyx stones, with bluish white. She always wore a wig of rich deep chestnut curls, pulled so far forward that wisps of her own grey hair escaped at the back.
That verb 'dumped' and the detail about the 'iron stays'. Ooft.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 16:08 (four months ago)
Some mangled syntax there, sorry. Antonia White would have my fingers in a vice.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 16:10 (four months ago)
Look at this stuff. You needn't have been to Sussex to 'see' this but the evocation is so perfect it's like alchemy. When I think 'novelist', maybe 'minaturist', White and maybe Elizabeth Taylor are where I find my mind going these days.
Her eyes fixed themselves not on the road but on the downs of sallow green and purple-brown fields beyond the ridges. Nye Timber, the one high point in the smooth swell, always took the light differently from the rest and seemed to her to be made of a different material, of fine pale sand instead of worn green velvet. Today it was just that pearly lilac that had made her call it, as a child, the Heavenly Mountain. So it seemed to her still. She could not imagine a heaven that was not furnished with all the things she loved on earth. It was the downs she pictured when she said, "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills". Yet, though she loved them, she found them a little remote and frightening. As always, after gazing at them, she glanced back over her shoulder, to look at the house. She loved it, down to its very defects and discomforts; it shocked her to realise if Leah were to die she would suffer less than if the two of them had to leave Paget's Fold. In front the old pink brickwork, meshed in beams, was almost hidden by creepers and climbing plants. The box tree was much too high; it grew right up to one of the bedroom windows, blotting out all the light from the parlour so that you sat in a green gloom that smelt like a damp wood. The ivy was too thick; people were always warning her that it would pull the bricks apart. Often indeed it drove long sprays right into the rooms, through the deep walls and all those layers of paper. But she hated to cut it back; there was nothing she disliked so much as a naked-looking house. She thought with annoyance of all the people about to intrude on the old house's privacy and as she did so, she heard the sound of an approaching motor. Hurrying in, she was met by an indignant Leah. "Sophy, what can have possessed you?”
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 16:45 (four months ago)
There's a thread about Children of Men, and I think the consensus is still that the film (TV? that's where I saw it) adaptation is much better than the book.Fizzles, your pre-writer is making me almost remember John Berger's stories about life in the mountains (and that I want to read Calvino's early fiction). I also read Berger's novel about the painter---dammit why can't I remember any of that?. And I still haven't read G., which I still have. Is Berger's fiction good??
― dow, Tuesday, 27 May 2025 19:15 (four months ago)
I finished She Wears Him Fancy in Her Night Braid, a short book of poems by Faye Kicknosway, an interesting and relatively unheralded poet who released more than half a dozen books in the 1970s and 1980s. I originally snapped it out of the stacks because it was printed by Toothpaste Press, one of the great letter-set presses of the underground poetry scene in the 70s and 80s. It is a gorgeous book with lovely illustrations, and the poems live up to their promise of detailing feminine psychology and mythic violence. Going to be checking out more from her!
Now, onto The Outsiders, which I haven't read since I read it three times in a row in 6th grade (!!!).
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 May 2025 21:46 (four months ago)
I've been reading Letters From Iceland, WH Auden & Louis MacNiece. It's a strange thrown-together pastiche of a book, nominally about a trip they took to Iceland in 1937. Auden contributes the lion's share of the material. It includes some of the usual tourist information (applicable to 1937), but much miscellaneous and heterogeneous material, some cut-and-pasted from various sources, some of it original oddments. For example it includes a long multi-part letter from Auden addressed to Lord Byron, written in verse that is patterned after Don Juan and has nothing to do with Iceland other than having been composed during the trip. As a travel book, it's uneven, but it has the virtue of being rather entertaining -- and that's what Auden intended it to be.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 May 2025 20:35 (four months ago)
I loved *Letters from Iceland* but can barely remember a thing about it. Need to re-read.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 29 May 2025 21:25 (four months ago)
The Outsiders is a classic for a reason, though part of my assignment in reading it is discussing whether it would appeal to YA readers of today… and I’m simply not so sure. The themes are still resonant, I think— class issues, friendship, family and chosen family, violence, death, being different, etc. But the material culture of the world of the book is so far from that of our world today that it leaves me questioning whether 6th graders in 2025 would become obsessed with these books like I did. Today I am going to finish The Chocolate War, which I have never read before.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 30 May 2025 11:33 (three months ago)
Well, finished The Chocolate War. Chilling stuff.
I could imagine teaching it alongside LeGuin's "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" and Jackson's "The Lottery," which I have used as the first readings in a class I've previously taught on "the question of violence" in short fiction.
Anyway, it's not subtle, it's not particularly full of profundity, but it is powerful and short, and that makes it a perfect YA novel. I understand why it's a classic, and honestly, I think it would probably fare a bit better among young readers today than The Outsiders, if only because unlike Hinton's book, the material world of Cormier's Chocolate War is vague— other than the trope of landlines, much of what goes on in the book could easily happen today.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 30 May 2025 18:16 (three months ago)
Keith Gordon (aka the kid from Dressed to Kill and Christine) directed an interesting adaptation of The Chocolate War in the late 80s.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 30 May 2025 20:24 (three months ago)
nice, will have to look it up.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 30 May 2025 22:01 (three months ago)
May
McB20 Doll - Ed McBainMcB21 80 Million Eyes - Ed McBainMcB22 Fuzz - Ed McBainMcB23 Shotgun - Ed McBainMcB25 Hail Hail The Gang's All Here - Ed McBainMcB32 Long Time No See - Ed McBain
Kindaichi04: Death On Gokumon Island - Seishi Yokomizo
this year is all about progressing the various reading projects i've got going on. i skipped some mcbain's because they weren't available as ebooks, but they do tend to reference previous books in passing, so are best read in order. so the above are paper copies, bought from ebay to fill those gaps. 32 / 55.
― koogs, Sunday, 1 June 2025 16:30 (three months ago)
I read death on gokumon island recently. I haven't read the first in the series and whodunits aren't really my thing - but it was so silly.
― the wrong witch roams the earth (ledge), Sunday, 1 June 2025 17:02 (three months ago)
i have read the four, i'm missing the most recent, and this year's (Black Cat Restaurant) is out in a couple of months (there are 77 and are being translated one a year, i will be ~130 when they finish)
and there are films, by kon ichikawa no less, but no sign of english releases.
― koogs, Sunday, 1 June 2025 20:57 (three months ago)
The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana by Umberto Eco. I haven't read anything of his since The Island of the Day Before. It seems heavily autobiographical, has nothing of the sense of mystery of his other works, and it's hard to see how it would appeal to anyone other than Eco completists or italian males born in the early 1930s.
― the wrong witch roams the earth (ledge), Monday, 2 June 2025 13:19 (three months ago)
Read The Devotion Of Suspect X by Keigo Higashino this weekend. It's the first in a series of mystery novels set in Tokyo; a woman and her daughter kill her shitty ex-husband, and her stalker-ish next door neighbor helps them cover it up. We know this going in; the plot is how the detectives figure out what happened. (There's a good twist.) There are five books in the series, and I think my local Barnes & Noble has all of them.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 2 June 2025 14:27 (three months ago)
Reading Nancy Garden’s Annie On My Mind for my young adult literature course— it’s an early-ish lesbian YA. It’s quite good! Though I can already sense some of the same tropes that pervade gay YA— the dreamy girl vs the practical girl, class divides, etc. Still, I am enjoying it. I am screen reading that since I didn’t have time to get a paper edition, so will have a paper copy of Joseph Torchia’s The Kryptonite Kid by my bedside for later this evening. That one was recommended by my pal Michael Kl4usman, who said it was one of his faves as a young teen.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 3 June 2025 01:45 (three months ago)
I like Higashino a lot; the other book of his I read, Newcomer, leans into coziness even more than Suspect X. Mostly this dude uncovers mysteries where people hide things from each other out of love and not wanting to hurt others.
I once got a knowing smile from a Japanese zoomer for reading him on public transport.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 3 June 2025 09:21 (three months ago)
I finished Antonia White's *The Lost Traveller*. It's a bildungsroman but it lacks the first novel's tight focus on Clara and her introduction to and crises with the Catholic church. By necessity, the scope widens to include the adult world that Clara/Nanda is growing into, so the narrative voice becomes more diffuse and varied. Some shocking events occur late in the book; these events are simultaneously tests of faith and analogues for WWI, which happens almost entirely off-screen, but they threw me out of the text somehow.
I started Thich Nhat Hanh's *Silence* but couldn't get on with it. I've read various texts like this, and it felt like AI had amalgamated a bunch of soft Buddhist teachings. Started Pema Chödrön's *When Things Fall Apart* instead and instantly felt the presence I needed.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 3 June 2025 09:56 (three months ago)
But the material culture of the world of the book is so far from that of our world today that it leaves me questioning whether 6th graders in 2025 would become obsessed with these books like I did.
tbh it was like that in 1986 when I read it too
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 June 2025 12:12 (three months ago)
xps
Annie on My Mind is one I keep meaning to get to. Don't know The Kryptonite Kid at all, but onto the list it goes!
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 12:20 (three months ago)
The Kryptonite Kid is amazing (and the only book I know to have a praise blurb from Pauline Kael on the cover!)
Torchia wrote a short story sequel. 'First Communion', that can be found in Mae West is Dead: Recent Lesbian and Gay Fiction edited by Adam Mars-Jones.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 13:38 (three months ago)
I was already sold!
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 14:10 (three months ago)
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 3, 2025 5:12 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Didn't feel that way to me in 1996. Like, it felt a little dated in terms of its popular references— the Beatles vs Elvis, for example— but in 1996, some kids committing a crime and then skipping town on a freight to hide in some rural butthole felt a lot more possible. Today, there's little to no chance they'd make it out of town.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 3 June 2025 21:26 (three months ago)
Glad that others are a fan of Kryptonite Kid, the beginning is promising!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 3 June 2025 21:27 (three months ago)
zpost though I know this is irrelevant to looking for 6th grade reading recs, I think the Soshsers, the gang protected by Daddy's money etc, would still hit home w teen readers at least.
― dow, Wednesday, 4 June 2025 17:57 (three months ago)
Soshers, prob.
I'm reading The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum, Heinrich Böll. It's written in a very flat style, relying on keeping your interest by slowly developing the plot/storyline in a methodical way, but the author's real intent is making a few political statements about West German society, back in 1974, when West Germany was doing its impression of nationhood.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 June 2025 19:23 (three months ago)
Finished the Eco, though i skim-read the last quarter. It lost me when the nearly 70 year old amnesiac started obsessing over an unrequited crush he learned he had in school, desperate to remember the face of a girl he barely spoke to and who disappeared (and died, it turns out) after two years.
― the wrong witch roams the earth (ledge), Thursday, 5 June 2025 07:17 (three months ago)
Sent An African History of Africa back to the library unfinished. I really wanted to read it but the prose was so awful, like a middle school textbook with every "in conclusion, Kenya is a land of contrasts" cliché you could ever expect tucked right in there, that I gave up in disgust.
Starting James McBride's Deacon King Kong. And S.A. Cosby's new one comes out next week; that's on the way.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 6 June 2025 13:38 (three months ago)
I finished the first volume of Arthur Rubinstein's memoirs ("My Young Years"). Its a pretty hefty volume, and there's still a second one to go ("My Many Years"), which I will probably read at some point, since I enjoyed the first. Rubinstein lived an interesting life in interesting times, essentially striking out on his own at the age of 17, living off the kindness of friends and a highly unstable flow of performance earnings. His spendthrift ways didn't help. Luckily it seems like lots of music-loving aristocrats couldn't resist the young charming keyboard genius, although he could also be a bit of a shit.
After that, I read the short and fairly inconsequential "Look at the Lights, My Love" by Annie Ernaux, and am now reading Curtis Sittenfeld stories from her new collection.
― o. nate, Friday, 6 June 2025 15:50 (three months ago)
Started Rafi Mittlefeldt’s It Looks Like This, one of the options for required reading for the YA lit and libraries course I am taking. It’s a queer YA I haven’t read, and one thing stands out so far: the narrative voice is like a teenage Raymond Carver. Tight-lipped, understated, terse sentences. It totally works!!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 June 2025 12:23 (three months ago)
I'm reading David Sheff's Yoko bio, wanna reread The Blue Flower because it didn't move me at all despite loving Penelope Fitzgerald's other work, and will today pick up Mark Polizzotti's Why Surrealism Matters.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 June 2025 12:25 (three months ago)
Finished It Looks Like This rather than finishing some work, it’s one of the better queer YA books I have read, especially given its style. Glad it was an option for the class.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 June 2025 22:58 (three months ago)
Forgot that I finished another book too, "LaserWriter II" by Tamara Shopsin, about working at the Macintosh TekServe repair shop on 23rd St in what sounds like the mid-90s. Slight, but it hits a lot of Gen-X nostalgia buttons.
― o. nate, Monday, 9 June 2025 14:13 (three months ago)
Finally finished The Well of Loneliness, which is quite a ride: some beautiful writing (which I noted in a previous post) but seriously marked by early-20C attitudes on homosexuality, in addition to some fleeting but no less horrifying racism. I had thought it was considered a queer classic before reading it, but the commentary in the new Oxford edition point to a more uneasy reputation. I can see why: if queer misery bothers you, you might want to stay away.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 9 June 2025 17:39 (three months ago)
I'm really enjoying Rachel Cusk's The Last Supper, a travelogue of her family's three-month Italian sojourn that was published in 2009.
Her writing feels ornate and controlled at the same time. I've not read anything else by her, but I'm interested.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 9 June 2025 18:11 (three months ago)
The Outline trilogy is amazing and generally considered her best I think. I've read one from long before (The Country Life, not at all controlled - basically a farce) and one from after (The Second Place, very controlled, not much fun).
Just re-read Le Guin's A Fisherman of the Inland Sea. As usual I'm in awe (of the title story especially), and sad that we don't live up to her imagination.
― the wrong witch roams the earth (ledge), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 09:47 (three months ago)
Several appealing takes in this big round-up (not paywalled)https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/what-were-reading-this-summer-mega-read"> https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/what-were-reading-this-summer-mega-read I'm especially intrigued by quotes from and comments on Elizabeth Jane Howard---is she good??
― dow, Friday, 13 June 2025 00:33 (three months ago)
The Hell?https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/what-were-reading-this-summer-mega-reads
― dow, Friday, 13 June 2025 00:35 (three months ago)
Yeah, that one works.
― dow, Friday, 13 June 2025 00:37 (three months ago)
can't believe i've missed this thread for the last 6 months because i keep subconsciously clocking the title as some uk sportsball thing
anyway, rfi for you kind ilb-ers: on some thread, a month or two ago, someone was taking about a series of espionage novels set in europe, eastern and/or otherwise. i sampled the first page of one and liked the prose. it started off with some kind of creaky transport ship with a load of anatolian wheat (?) on it. does anyone know what i'm talking about or who the author might be?
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 13 June 2025 02:11 (three months ago)
novels were written from early 90s through the late 2000s iirc
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 13 June 2025 02:12 (three months ago)
It *could* be Alan Furst. Sounds a bit like *Night Soldiers* but not sure about the Anatolian wheat detail.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 13 June 2025 07:11 (three months ago)
Yes, I think there was a small revival of this Furst thread recently:
alan furst
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 June 2025 07:34 (three months ago)
yes, ty!
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Friday, 13 June 2025 12:58 (three months ago)
S.A. Cosby's King Of Ashes is one of the best crime novels I've read in years. Really dark, really strong, starts out as one kind of story and becomes very different.
Still reading James McBride's Deacon King Kong, which is pretty good and is also going in unexpected directions. If you've liked Colson Whitehead's two Harlem-set crime novels, you'll like this, probably. Reminds me of those and of Richard Price's kaleidoscopic NYC stories.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 14 June 2025 15:00 (three months ago)
I took a trip recently and finished two books, mostly while on the airplanes, while in transit. They were just a couple of whodunits, Maigret Sets a Trap, by Simenon, and Find a Victim, by Ross Macdonald. They met all the requirements of good whodunits, although the Macdonald one included some very strange and wrong ideas about the effects of marijuana.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 14 June 2025 18:26 (three months ago)
I've read a bunch of Macdonald but not that one. 11 of the 18 Lew Archer novels were anthologized by the Library of America in three volumes; that one was left out, possibly for good reason. (I had to read the Wikipedia summary three times to make sure I understood.)
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 15 June 2025 01:24 (three months ago)
My hospital reading has so far been limited to a re-reading of Gass’ “The Pedersen Kid,” which remains as insane and enigmatic as ever, and a book by Paul Baker titled Outrageous!, about Section 28, queer education, and culture in 80s and 90s UK, and the after effects of the law today.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 15 June 2025 18:31 (three months ago)
Started Edith Wharton's Twilight Sleep last night. One of her later novels and, at least based on the first few chapters, one of her funniest.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 16 June 2025 14:45 (three months ago)
Dr No, Percival Everett - My second Everett after I Am Not Sidney Poitier. Once again lots of deadpan humour and a love of messing with language; this one's about a mathematician who studies nothing, and gets roped into a big heist because the mastermind behind it is convinced there is nothing hidden away in Fort Knox. Both the narrator and his love interest are on the spectrum. There's also a one legged dog that talks to him in his dreams with the voice of Michael Caine. Good stuff.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 16 June 2025 14:50 (three months ago)
just finished hampton sides' the wide wide sea about captain cook's final voyage. very well-written and thoughtful, and great fun to read along with an atlas.
now about halfway thru darryl by jackie ess, which is awesome.
― gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Monday, 16 June 2025 16:42 (three months ago)
Darryl is a great book
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 16 June 2025 19:15 (three months ago)
Finished Twilight Sleep, which started out funny but ended up quite sad. I am now ready for Season 3 of The Gilded Age this weekend.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 20 June 2025 04:15 (three months ago)
Finished Nicola Yoon’s ‘Everything, Everything’ for my YA lit class. Book with worthwhile themes but a lousy (and impossible!) extended metaphor as its main conceit. Meh.
Am slogging through Paul Baker’s ‘Outrageous!’ It is ostensibly a personal guide through the passage of Section 28 in the UK and its aftermath, but christ, there’s just way too much detail about this bill’s passage and how it came to be. I am uninterested in the vicious homophobia and voting record of Lord Vomswell Beadle (MP, Bosom Manor), I am interested in how the law impacted bookstores, kids, and culture. Luckily it seems like it is moving in that direction.
I also began a side quest with a little chapbook by one of my favorite poets, Norma Cole. She is incredible.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 20 June 2025 11:01 (three months ago)
Another two chaps, one by Language poet Kit Robinson and another by contemporary working-class realist poet Steve Orth, and getting to the back end of the Baker book, which has become much more interesting as its moved on.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 21 June 2025 14:32 (three months ago)
I just read Double Indemnity, James M. Cain. The plot is less believable than The Postman Always Rings Twice, which is understandable, since 'Postman' is a stone cold classic. Still, 'Indemnity' is a very good book after 90 years and a very rapid read. I have Mildred Pierce in the queue for later this year.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 21 June 2025 15:21 (three months ago)
Finally finished Lonesome Dove. What a book. Still mourning for it. Certainly one of the most enjoyable books I've ever read, even though it's pretty friggin' bleak.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 21 June 2025 18:55 (three months ago)
Mildred Pierce is great, love that book.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 21 June 2025 19:13 (three months ago)
Started and finished a re-read of Camille Roy’s ‘The Rosy Medallions,’ a book that a friend stole from me years and years ago but which I found a good cheap-ish copy of recently. It was as I remember it: reflexive, cutting lesbian poetry and lyric prose with a deep class consciousness and excellent sense of the abject. Roy will always be one of my favorites of the New Narrative movement, even though she isn’t as well known as Dodie Bellamy or Bob Glück— her work is really incredible.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 21 June 2025 23:12 (three months ago)
Read a minor Barbara Guest book of prose poems around filmic subjects. She’s an odd poet, I have only truly enjoyed one book of hers, but I somehow find the work mysterious enough that I keep coming back to it every few years. I think because I simply don’t understand her poetics?
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 June 2025 19:28 (three months ago)
Read a small sheath of poems by one of my favorite poets, John Wieners. Not book-length by any means, but worth mentioning because they’ve never been reprinted and so it felt special to read them in their original form.
Also finished a nice collaborative chap by Miri Karraker and Caroline Rayner.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 June 2025 23:22 (three months ago)
The greatness of MP as a novel shocked me 15 years ago. I'd assumed it was pure pulp.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 June 2025 23:51 (three months ago)
I stole it from a friend’s hoarder roommate many years ago, had similar thoughts when I was reading it!!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 23 June 2025 00:45 (three months ago)
I finished Jean-Claude Lebenszteyn’s ‘Pissing Figures: 1280- 2014,’ a fascinating art history text about…erm… pissing figures! It’s well-written, interesting, and relatively short. I just wish that some of the reproductions were a bit larger and/or clearer.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 23 June 2025 21:31 (three months ago)
Still dipping into the Sittenfeld stories. They are a bit hit or miss for me. This may be just me, but some of them feel more personal and real and some feel kind of schematic and contrived. The title story, which I read somewhere else and is what made me check out the book from my library, is an example of the former.
I'm also reading "Raised From the Ground" by Jose Saramago. It's considered one of his early works, though he was already 58 when it was published. He was a late bloomer, which gives hope to us all.
― o. nate, Monday, 23 June 2025 22:00 (three months ago)
Read a pretty empty-headed murder-mystery-that's-actually-a-ghost-story, Murder Road, over the weekend. Don't know if I need to say much more than that. Oh, it's set in 1995, presumably to take smartphones off the table and force the characters to research things by reading old newspapers.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 24 June 2025 03:07 (three months ago)
Read a short chap of unreleased poems by Alfred Start Hamilton, true freak of New Jersey, as well as a cool little book of poems by French poet Anne Portugal.
Then picked up ‘Chevengur’ and started reading again, for reasons beyond my comprehension.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 11:33 (three months ago)
Just got two books in the mail from Sandorf Passage: Marko Pogačar's Neon South (a Latin American travelogue by an Eastern European poet) and Kasimma's All Shades Of Iberibe (short stories by a Nigerian author). Gonna dive into the latter right away.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 21:50 (three months ago)
Read Kenneth Oppel’s Inkling for my YA fiction class. Definitely more of a late elementary book, but imaginatively told.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Wednesday, 25 June 2025 22:20 (three months ago)
I thought this NYT piece about how men don't read fiction novels anymore was interesting but kind of sad (gift article)
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/25/style/fiction-books-men-reading.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Sk8.j9xb.D9rMN0OOOCnu&smid=url-share
― Dan S, Sunday, 29 June 2025 00:42 (three months ago)
Most of my gay men friends still read fiction, but not all of them. The only straight man I know who reads fiction is my brother-in-law, who is a voracious consumer of mystery and crime novels, which I'm on board with. I don't understand how the literary world is seen as hostile to masculine expression. I mean, don't men have dreams or fantasies, does everything have to be some concrete real-life information for them? And besides, non-fiction books are mostly just badly written and boring
― Dan S, Sunday, 29 June 2025 01:12 (three months ago)
I found that article bizarre and insulting, mostly because of the implication that gay men aren’t real men and don’t count.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 29 June 2025 02:29 (three months ago)
Then again, most of my straight male friends read tons of books, but that’s because I’m a writer, so my sample size is tainted
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 29 June 2025 02:30 (three months ago)
about how men don't read fiction novels anymore
the entertainment market in general is very crowded and ultra-competitive. reading for entertainment is more taxing and difficult than just sitting in front of a screen and watching actors perform and less immediate and personally involving than social media.
it's an acquired taste that requires a fairly large commitment of time, energy, and attention. because of that it has gradually become a relatively small niche activity. for publishers of modern fiction, it will never revive to reach its historic levels of sales and interest -- unless society reverts to conditions it has currently grown away from. but for those who doggedly pursue it, the rewards will always be considerable, so it will never die out entirely.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 29 June 2025 02:32 (three months ago)
Yes Aimless but the article was about a specific demographic, not the decline of reading in general.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 29 June 2025 08:23 (three months ago)
as usual the headline is meretricious. Here's the answer to the question, buried at the bottom:
One real challenge at hand is a frenzied attention economy competing for everyone’s time, not just men’s. To present the sorry state of the male reader as having solely to do with the gendered quality of contemporary fiction misses a screen-based culture that presents nearly unlimited forms of entertainment.
“Our competition isn’t other publishers,” said Sean Manning, the publisher of Simon & Schuster. “It’s social media, gaming, streaming. All these other things that are vying for people’s time, attention and financial resources.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 June 2025 12:06 (three months ago)
yeah, in a sense i think that the fictions that (especially younger) straight men have been consuming are much more likely to be in video game worlds and social media, or some combination of the two. note that the article doesn’t say that straight men don’t read— they just don’t read fiction.
i guess what i found puzzling about the article is that most of the straight men that i know in my father’s generation— boomers— also mostly read non-fiction. i haven’t gotten my dad a literary fiction book as a present in years, because he doesn’t seem interested in much except the occasional whodunnit. whereas i can get him political tomes, social histories, leftist propaganda theory, all sorts of stuff along those lines, and he will utterly absorb it and want to talk about it with me. example: he loved “The Jakarta Method,” and it led to a great conversation.
whether this is a problem or not isn’t really for me to litigate— but one of the implications of the article is that the mid-century novelists like Updike, O’Hara, Cheever, Mailer, Wolfe, etc. have gone out of fashion, and nothing has come along to replace them. My response to that is: who cares?
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 29 June 2025 14:09 (three months ago)
As a way to sublimate my angst about the ongoing putsch, I've been reading a collection of eight of Plutarch's Lives published by Penguin Classics under the title Rome in Crisis. So far I've made my way through the two Gracchi brothers, Sertorius, Lucullus, Cato the Younger, and Brutus. Still to come are Antony, Galba & Otho.
Plutarch makes it clear that his own political leaning is strongly in favor of what Plato would term 'rule by the best men', meaning a paternalistic, but sternly disciplinary, aristocracy that keeps the plebeians well in hand. He cautiously admits that the plebeians were often mistreated by the aristocracy, but his remedy is that the aristocracy should become philosophers and behave more ethically. Thus, he praises Cato the Younger to the skies for his Stoic rectitude, but disapproves of the Gracchi for inciting class warfare, even if their policy of land redistribution to the poor was essentially just and necessary.
What saves Plutarch and makes him still worth reading is that he is always honest, open, and fair-minded. You always know where he stands and why, and he talks as freely about his subjects' flaws and failings as their virtues and abilities. That's worth a lot.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 29 June 2025 17:43 (three months ago)
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 June 2025 bookmarkflaglink
Few read fiction, outside of the internet circles I frequent. That's been the case even if there was no social media or internet. Gaming and sport has been enough of an alternative option.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 29 June 2025 17:57 (three months ago)
I'm with table here I think. Dunno if the NYTimes provides specific stats on straight men and fiction - and if it does, I'm guessing they'll be about the US? But Non Fiction Dad has always been a thing.
Even if we take relatability as the main reason ppl read (doesn't ring true for me personally but it is true a lot of ppl do), the idea that Updike, O’Hara, Cheever, Mailer, Wolfe, etc. are instantly relatable to men is pretty reductive.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 30 June 2025 09:47 (two months ago)
Re: men reading, I think there is also something about failing eyesight, the tiredness that comes with ageing, the tiredness that comes from managing family life, the cost of reading glasses, the expansion of working hours into home life etc etc. Which is to say, it’s not just “screens” and the influence of dipshit male podcasters and tech gurus, although that’s certainly part of it. But I do know a lot of readers who are just very overtired people.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 30 June 2025 10:41 (two months ago)
yeah, and even tho it is directly said within the article, there is some implication that many people believe this is the case! which yeah, is pretty reductive— I rate O’Hara and Cheever especially, but have no room for the other two.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 30 June 2025 12:01 (two months ago)
Read The First Rule of Punk by Celia Pérez as well as Bruised by Tanya Boteju for my YA lit class. Both were okay, but I felt like the Pérez felt more urgent and the Boteju felt like a load of lesbian YA tropes thrown into a book featuring more diverse characters, so a little tedious at times.
Finished Quisite Moment, i a great little chap by my favorite living French poet, Anne Portugal.
Also finished Alibi Lullaby by Norma Cole, the latest by one of my favorite living poets. As mercurial and surprising as ever, Norma is 80 years old and still a more interesting poet than most people half her age or younger.
More YA stuff coming, have a LOT of reading for the course this week. I admit that I am tiring of it a bit, but I put myself here, so!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 30 June 2025 12:09 (two months ago)
I kind of think this story of declining male reading of "literary" fiction is a bit exaggerated, but there is a kernel of truth to it. I think there were more men who felt like they should read maybe one or two of the "big" literary books of the season, along with their usual diet of non-fiction, newspapers, magazines, etc. This was partly a product of the more monolithic media landscape. If you subscribed to a big-city paper and read a news weekly like Time or Newsweek, you were exposed to a lot of free advertising for the concept of the important novel by the important male author, in the form of interviews, features, reviews etc. This was bound to have some effect. And maybe yeah some of those authors were better than the crop we have today. So guys bought a few of those books and maybe even finished them. But was there some golden age of male literary reading? Not really.
― o. nate, Monday, 30 June 2025 13:23 (two months ago)
I also don't think it's a coincidence that the decline of literary fiction in the bestseller lists coincides with the adoption of Bookscan and more accurate measurement of what people actually buy.
― o. nate, Monday, 30 June 2025 14:01 (two months ago)
City of Night John Rechytransgressive early 60s novel about a young male hustler that I think I picked up from the library after reading David Bowie loved it, thought it may have been Lou Reed. I read Dylan Jones oral histories of both at around the same time a few months back.Pretty good so far.
― Stevo, Monday, 30 June 2025 16:44 (two months ago)
reading tony tulathimutte's private citizens. enjoyed rejection, but it was too cute at times. very "look what i can do." he's obviously a unique voice, and i find him compulsively readable, so i put a note down to check out his novel and it seems like it's more my speed.
― gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Monday, 30 June 2025 16:57 (two months ago)
Reminds me of when Soundscan came out and all of a sudden Billboard had to deal with the fact that lots of people really liked Garth Brooks and Pantera. And hip-hop. So much hip-hop.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 20:49 (two months ago)
Read Richard Chizmar's Memorials over the weekend. It's a horror novel about a trio of college students doing a project about roadside memorials — crosses and photos and whatnot remembering people killed in accidents — and gradually discovering that a Satanic (or maybe more Cthulhu-ish) cult is using the grief-energy at these sites to pull dark beings into the world from the Other Side.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 20:51 (two months ago)
Finished a short chap by legendary poet Kevin Davies, and like his most recent book, it was quite good, but sort of weirdly disappointing because he isn't doing much new with his forms or tactics. His first three books use some pretty radical forms of discontinuity and parataxis, so that as one reads it becomes clear that a line on page 76 was originally part of a quatrain on page 25, allowing weird resonances and correspondences to build across the books. But he's kind of gone more "straightahead" Kootenay school, a smarter and sexier Gen X variation of Language poetry. In short: I liked it, but I wish he would return to the more radical ways of his youth.
I also finished another book for my YA fiction class, Joseph Bruchac's Peace Maker, a short and surprisingly moving narrative detailing one boy's life in the weeks leading up to the formation of the Iroquois Confederacy. Maybe it's the painkillers, but I teared up at moments.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 21:18 (two months ago)
The NY Times is back again with another big think-piece on the decline of the "Straight White Man’s Novel" and whether it matters:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/03/arts/straight-white-male-novelists.html
― o. nate, Thursday, 3 July 2025 12:53 (two months ago)
That anyone reads Compact Mag, a literal mouthpiece for TERFs and assorted other fascists, is embarrassing. That anyone takes what one of these fascists writes as serious and worth consideration is just an admission, afaic.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 July 2025 13:29 (two months ago)
My June reading:
Michael Cunningham - Day* Penelope Fitzgerald - The Blue FlowerBarbara Comyns - The Vet's DaughterCraig Unger - Den of SecretsDavid Sheff - Yoko: A BiographyIan Leslie - John & Paul: A Love Story in SongsJohn Banville - The DrownedJohn Banville - The Lock-UpSusan E. Gunter - Alice in JameslandDana Gioia - Studying with Miss Bishop: Memoirs from a Young Writer’s LifeGraeme Thomson - Under the Ivy: The Life and Music of Kate BushDavid Roll - Ascent to Power: How Truman Emerged From Roosevelt’s Shadow and Remade the World
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 July 2025 13:58 (two months ago)
As someone who could be defined as a SWM, I think the whole thing is rather overblown and kind of cringey. I don't need to feel like I'm reading something by another SWM to relate to it. Also this discussion overlooks the fact that there still are superstar SWM novelists, e.g. Knausgaard. "My Struggle" was pretty much as much of a deep dive into the interiority of a SWM as one could ask for. Maybe he did it so well that we don't need another one for a while.
― o. nate, Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:02 (two months ago)
The reason straight white men don't read as much is because of the paywall (admitidely prob a good thing for me im this instance).
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:05 (two months ago)
Try this gift link (though maybe not such a nice gift..)
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/03/arts/straight-white-male-novelists.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Tk8.nmfQ.g4KGx8eSM2rj&smid=url-share
― o. nate, Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:06 (two months ago)
Thanks. One thing that hits me instantly is that, for the NYTimes, the literary world means the USA. So Knausgaard does not count as a writer, and probably also not as a man.
Aside from that, dark lols at this dude both angry at the lack of straight white male novelists AND angry that today's straight white male novelists don't conform to his midcentury macho ideas of what they're supposed to be.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:15 (two months ago)
Yeah, engaging with the topic forces one into the unasked for and embarrassing job of defining who qualifies as SWM. In other news, I recently finished "Raised from the Ground" by Jose Saramago (AFAIK also a SWM novelist, though that's not really relevant). A look at the lives of poor landless agricultural workers under the Salazar dictatorship in Portugal. Its a beautiful book about a lot of things, and also a panegyric for the communist agitators who defied the land owners and their police and military lackeys, and paid for it in some cases with their lives. Saramago's narrative voice is the most distinctive thing about it. Hard to summarize why, but its playful and scabrous in turns. Also sad and wise.
― o. nate, Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:27 (two months ago)
Love Saramago. Straight white male yes, also dead - proud I got to see him in the flesh before he passed.
There's a whole list of gigantic figures of 20th century Portuguese literature, music and politics that were still alive during my childhood and that have now been gone long enough they're just historical figures for the youth.
I suppose that's equally true for the US or UK but in a small country it's more noticeable.
The passage of time, what a wonder.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:37 (two months ago)
I'll try that Saramago. I've read three others of his, when I read The Gospel According to Jesus Christ the image of the narrator that appeared in my mind was Mark Margolis (Hector Salamanca in Breaking Bad) hunched over a typewriter, cruelly cackling.
― Lulu and Stormzy live back to back (ledge), Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:38 (two months ago)
I love Saramago. The Year of the Death of Ricardo Reis is one of my favorite novels.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 July 2025 14:40 (two months ago)
I finished the Rome in Crisis collection of eight of Plutarch's Lives. All I have to add to what I wrote earlier is that it really drove home how many civil wars Rome fought and that the transformation of the Republic into the Empire was entirely the work of Rome's equivalent of billionaires, who purchased political office as a means to greater power and wealth.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 July 2025 17:54 (two months ago)
Dana Gioia - Studying with Miss Bishop: Memoirs from a Young Writer’s Life
Is Dana Gioia less of a gaping asshole than his brother?
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 3 July 2025 19:15 (two months ago)
Re: decline of the white bloke novelist. This was an excellent point.
It is within these inauspicious conditions that women have come to “dominate” the publishing industry. We know from the sociology of labor that when the conditions in any field of work worsen, that work is more likely to be done by the people with the least power in the labor market. The least desirable, lowest-paying jobs go to the lowest-status groups. This is what has happened in publishing. The literary part of the trade has been collapsing, its profits and prestige undercut. With these declines comes the feminization of work, meaning both that women are doing more of the jobs and that the jobs are more likely to be casualized and badly paid. Contrary to the more exciting idea that an army of DEI warriors has forced men to the sidelines, what's really happening is that, in response to historic declines in literature’s value, the industry has itself become a site of more contingent and more precarious work that is more often done by women. If women have girlbossed their way to the top of this field, we should hesitate to call it a win.
https://defector.com/the-plight-of-the-white-male-novelist
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 July 2025 21:45 (two months ago)
that’s my pal Sarah, she is great and that essay is excellent
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 July 2025 22:25 (two months ago)
In re: the death of men's fiction, the literary part of the trade has always been marginal. During that supposedly golden period when Bellow, Mailer, Cheever, et. al are the authors getting cited as exemplars of fiction for men, it was Mickey Spillane who was selling 200 million copies of his work. Similarly, it was Erle Stanley Gardner of 'Perry Mason' fame that Wikipedia identifies as "the best-selling American author of the 20th century at the time of his death" which was in 1966. Theirs were the kind of novels you would have been likely to see men reading. The prestige guys were never popular in the truest sense of that word.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 July 2025 22:41 (two months ago)
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson),
Innocuous essays about meeting Cheever, Bishop, Robert Fitzgerald, etc.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 July 2025 23:32 (two months ago)
Read Rob Halpern’s Hieroglyphs of the Inverted World, a book of poems diagnosing and describing the process of raising a child in the current nightmare world we live in. Rob is an old friend and I actually loved the poems here, more so than in some of his other recent efforts, but he is wont to overanalyze and overexplain his work— here, 40 pages of dense but pretty legible poems are followed by a 12 page essay about the process and aims of those poems. Bless Rob, but I hate this: it speaks to a desire to direct the reader’s interpretation (thus closing off possibilities of reading), and is also related to an academic sort of snobbery wherein he feels the poems have to be explained. They don’t! And the essay basically made me think a lot less of the book.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:18 (two months ago)
I also read The Stay Behind by Serena Solin, a short book of poems that drew me in with some pretty beguiling lines here and there, but which ended up disappointing me, mostly because the concept of the book was not borne out in the poems.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:22 (two months ago)
Their Eyes Were Watching God, Zora Neale Hurston
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:27 (two months ago)
just started reading this and for some reason thought it worth sharinghttps://i.postimg.cc/3NH6gMpK/20250703-150811.jpg
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:30 (two months ago)
She rules. So does Hurston.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:32 (two months ago)
Read this in 10th grade English and I was the only kid who loved it— couldn’t understand why all my peers loathed the book so much. An early sign that I was a little different, in retrospect.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 4 July 2025 14:48 (two months ago)
Re-read Ted Geltner's Blood, Bone And Marrow: A Biography Of Harry Crews this week. I only own three Crews books at present: A Feast Of Snakes, A Childhood: The Biography Of A Place, and Florida Frenzy, a collection of journalism and short pieces, but I've read several others and want to go back to his work.
Now I'm re-reading John Langan's The Fisherman, a very good horror novel.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 4 July 2025 18:46 (two months ago)
tables, please cut your overexplainer some slack---I've been through the same thing in writing, though I think I may have finally learned from an editor who told me when I did and didn't need to clarify---in On Writing, Stephen King indicates that he's well aware, and still struggles with, this anxiety, which is part of what made him a writer: little brother Stevie on the great siblings' adventure, making the sticks the Forest---where he for instance wiped his ass with poison ivy---I think it's also part of why he writes so many books (this is his best that I've read, though the much earlier Danse Macabre is good too, mostly for his correspondence with Ray Bradbury and other writers, also excellent Shirley Jackson essay quotes)---don't think he's published much more nonfiction, alas)
― dow, Friday, 4 July 2025 21:08 (two months ago)
But yeah, forcefeeding your reader to "interpret" your text a certain way is bad.
― dow, Friday, 4 July 2025 21:12 (two months ago)
I just meant, don't let the bad stuff outweigh the good stuff in this book, which I haven't read, and now I'm splaining, sorry!
― dow, Friday, 4 July 2025 21:16 (two months ago)
yeah, sorry, i know this person, and my point still stands.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 July 2025 11:47 (two months ago)
Even Hurston's '50s journalism, in which she dismisses Brown vs. Board of Education and civil rights generally, is worth reading because her voice is so unique. I wonder if Greg Tate borrowed from her.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 July 2025 12:37 (two months ago)
I'm interested in the choice to have all characters speak in dialect but not the narration - is it suggesting the narrator is outside the community? Or just the reader?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 5 July 2025 13:07 (two months ago)
just finished hampton sides' the wide wide sea about captain cook's final voyage. very well-written and thoughtful
thanks, voodoo chili, for pointing me at this. I've checked out a copy from the library and will start it soon. I'd start it right away, but it's a hardcover and a bit unwieldy for taking on the camping trip I'll be on this coming week. For that trip I'll bring a variety of trade paperbacks that are physically easier to pack and read. But this one looks intriguing.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 July 2025 20:39 (two months ago)
Started Joe Westmoreland’s Tramps Like Us, reprinted for the first time since 2001. Bildungsroman about a midwestern gay teenager who is finding his way in the world in the mid-70s into the 80s. Honestly, the voice feels true, but also, about 80 pages in, it also feels like a YA novel. That wouldn’t be a bad thing if it wasn’t marketed as some lost classic of gay literary fiction… but it might be too early to tell.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 July 2025 21:12 (two months ago)
Hurston's '50s journalism, in which she dismisses Brown vs. Board of Education and civil rights generally,
― dow, Saturday, 5 July 2025 23:03 (two months ago)
Was struck by her shading and cueing of crowd scenes---not just The Crowd As Asshole, an American Lit trope in itself: "Young Goodman Brown," The Scarlet Letter, Huckleberry Finn, "The Lottery," John Wesley Harding, many lesser works, blah-blah-blah---
― dow, Saturday, 5 July 2025 23:12 (two months ago)
glad you picked it up, aimless. i get not taking it on your camping trip, and again, very much fun to read the book along with an atlas
― gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Sunday, 6 July 2025 00:16 (two months ago)
god i love butler. she may be the last author where i made it through multiple books. i should try hurston. my upbringing was shall we say white. props to a college prof for assigning things fall apart tbh. oh and invisible man in high school. that may have been the first novel i read where it felt like it was too big to contain.
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Sunday, 6 July 2025 00:21 (two months ago)
Richard Wright was a rat and a sexist, tho, so that also had to play a part
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 6 July 2025 00:57 (two months ago)
xpost yeah,Their Eyes has its own kind of head-flexing appeal, like Invisible Man.
― dow, Sunday, 6 July 2025 02:04 (two months ago)
one of the things i realized when reading it in high school is that, at least at that age, a lot of people didn’t listen to the way other people spoke, didn’t recognize dialects and accents or didn’t care to think about them. always struck me as bizarre.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 6 July 2025 02:14 (two months ago)
Not the enemy : Israel's Jews from Arab lands Rachel ShabiWriter of Iraqi Mizrahi origins looks into the history of oppression and discrimination of Jews of Arab origins i.e. Mizrahi Jews in Israel.She was the daughter of Iraqi immigrants to the UK who relocated to Israel when she had the opportunity. She says she is not as obviously Mizrahi as a lot of people are, which might give a perspective that distorts slightly but this reads very well. Probably presents opportunities for research that wouldn't be there otherwise in a regime that is heavily recognised for apartheid. Good book that has taken me way too long to get around to reading.
Building A Character Konstantin StanislavskiI've had this lying around for ages, think I may have the other 2 in this series too but this was the first I could find. I'd just read Augusto Boal's Hamlet and the Baker's Son and I think he talks in there about influence taken from Stanislavski. I was going to see if I could find an Actor Prepares to read it first, couldn't and needed a bathroom book. I started reading the first chapter of this and found it pretty vital. So may reread at some future point when I can build on the series in order, maybe work through the exercises he talks about too.Anyway, I'm finding it enjoyable.
City of Night John Crechya young hustler narrates his life in New York in the early 60s.Very good read. Hope I get to finish it.
― Stevo, Sunday, 6 July 2025 10:47 (two months ago)
https://www.tiktok.com/@batfoxpictures/video/7506261801735048470?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xnldP8WrRW
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 6 July 2025 15:01 (two months ago)
I finished it just a couple weeks ago and it is very good. Without knowing much about its content, I read it right after a complicated bereavement, and some of its passages on grief really resonated.
"It's hard to hold onto any tragedies that aren't your own for very long. That's something I learned after Marie died. In the short term, folks can show compassion like you wouldn't believe; wait a couple of weeks, though, a couple of months at the outside, and see how well their sympathy holds."
"For the longest time, talking about her - thinking about her - was an exercise in agony, because I couldn't separate my wife from the fact of her death. Then, gradually, that stopped being the case. My memory relaxed its grip on Marie's death; although it felt more as if her dying loosened its hold on me. The myriad of experiences that had composed our time together became available as more than prompts to grief."
― salsa shark, Sunday, 6 July 2025 18:03 (two months ago)
Cormac McCarthy's The Crossing because why not, Jeff Weiss' Waiting for Britney Spears, and Mark Polizzotti's Why Surrealism Matters.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 July 2025 18:10 (two months ago)
E.F. Benson's David Blaize (1916): a typical boys school story, complete with a central romantic friendship, except it acknowledges the homosexuality--without actually using the word, but still--of one of the pair. This being a 100+ y.o. novel, the character's sexuality is a point of shame, something to be suppressed and overcome, but it also turns the story, quite unexpectedly, into an examination of how a close friendship between a gay man and a nominally straight one can endure despite the queer character's romantic longing. Of course, there's a lot of skimmable b.s. as well--at least two chapters devoted to cricket--but still one of the more interesting novels in the genre that I've encountered.
Gonna finally read The Bell Jar next.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 6 July 2025 18:45 (two months ago)
The Crossing is the middle novel in his cowboy romance trilogy, right? I remember reading it, but that's all I remember about it.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 6 July 2025 19:37 (two months ago)
i’m currently reading ‘on stalin’s team’ by sheila fitzgerald. great book about the stalin’s politburo
― flopson, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 13:13 (two months ago)
^^^ OK, that goes automatically into my queue.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 13:15 (two months ago)
it contains some great dark comedy, if you’re the kind of person who can bring yourself to laugh at this sort of thing (i am). bumbling bureaucrats jostling not to get purged during booze-filled weekends at stalin’s dacha
― flopson, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 13:19 (two months ago)
The prequel to The Death of Stalin.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 13:21 (two months ago)
I see that ^^^^^^^^^^ John Rechy contributed a blurb to ^^^^^^^ Waiting for Britney Spears.
― alimosina, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 14:49 (two months ago)
I finished a mediocre book of poems, Slow Violence by K4therine Duckworth. There were too many competing strains of inquiry— birds and bird deaths, sports stadiums, wage slavery, CTE and the death spiral of American football, sports riots, personal history... it's the sort of thing that could have used a bit more material and a proper editor to allow for the coherence that the book was clearly going for but didn't achieve.
Still reading Tramps Like Us, albeit slowly, because it has become apparent that the book's narrator might be the most boring homosexual on the planet.
For my YA class, I finished the classic The Face on the Milk Carton by Caroline B. Cooney, which I thought was dreadful due to the utter lack of characterization of any of the book's players. Today I begin Nova Ren Suma's The Walls Around Us, which I know nothing about. Admit that I am tiring of YA stuff— it turns out that if it isn't queer, I don't care about it! Lol.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 15:07 (two months ago)
also read the new short novel by sebastian castillo “fresh green life”. great writing that made me laugh
― flopson, Tuesday, 8 July 2025 19:52 (two months ago)
I read *Piranesi* by Susanna Clarke. I wanted to like it more than I did. I'm here for esoterica and transgressive academics and, especially, uncanny and infinitely large architectural follies, but it never quite took off for me. If it isn't being made into something, I'm convinced it will be.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 20:37 (two months ago)
nice, sebastian is a good friend of mine, very excited to go to the official Philly launch this weekend.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 21:30 (two months ago)
piranesi should be adapted into a board game
― gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 July 2025 23:41 (two months ago)
You're going to need a bigger board.
I wonder if it'll end being a book I like conceptually more than for the plot or the writing. Something like *The City and the City*.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 06:18 (two months ago)
actual piranesi 'carceri' etchings >>> piranesi the book.
― Lulu and Stormzy live back to back (ledge), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 08:38 (two months ago)
nice, sebastian is a good friend of mine, very excited to go to the official Philly launch this weekend.― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, July 8, 2025 5:30 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, July 8, 2025 5:30 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah we’ve talked about him before (probably in previous iterations of this thread when i posted about reading his other books). sebastian and i follow each other on twitter and have DM’d a few times but mostly i am just a fan. i love his posts, possibly more than his novels and short stories
one thing i like about his writing (that comes out really strongly in the new one) is that it’s strongly influenced by spanish writers in translation. specifically writers like cesar aira or horacio castellanos moya, who write in the voices of fussy long winded narrators. there’s something about the way that kind of spanish writing gets translated to english. i can’t put it into words, but there’s something slightly preposterous and absurd about the sentences, they’re off-kilter in this specific way that is arrogant/pompous and overly specific. and of course the rhythms feel very spanish. it’s something i’ve loved about that writing for a long time, and i can sebastian loves it too—and finds it very humorous—by the way he writes. even though he is afaict a native english speaker
― flopson, Thursday, 10 July 2025 21:17 (two months ago)
he grew up bilingual!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 July 2025 22:15 (two months ago)
While camping I re-read Prater Violet, Christopher Isherwood. It is a retrospective novel, set in 1933-34 England, but published in 1945. I first read it many decades ago and I've had a lovely little hardcover copy of the second printing in my library for about 20 years, waiting for me to read it again. At 128 pages, it's a modest and entertaining story, told with art and wit, that touches on bigger themes without belaboring them. I greatly enjoyed it.
I also re-read about half of Classics Revisited, Kenneth Rexroth, which is a collection of brief critical essays of 3 to 5 pages length that addresses various canonical classics such as the Gilgamesh epic, the Satyricon, and Medieval Latin lyrics. Whether I agreed with his observations or not, they were always astute, went straight to the point, and were intellectually interesting. I will probably read the remaining essays, but they are too concentrated with thought to read rapidly and in quantity.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 11 July 2025 20:36 (two months ago)
Jumped from Bernhard's Woodcutters to Gaddis' Carpenter's Gothic. Two very very funny books about hateful drunk guys speaking to themselves while inhabiting a wing chair. I prefer Woodcutter's, it is more pathetic
― H.P, Saturday, 12 July 2025 02:18 (two months ago)
Two very very funny books about hateful drunk guys speaking to themselves while inhabiting a wing chair.
Damn! Genres keep getting more and more specialized.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 12 July 2025 03:03 (two months ago)
Gaddis at least was aware of the similarity, his last book agapē agape is among other things a kind of tribute to bernhard. The narrator keeps saying something like “he stole my ideas before I had them”
― sideshow melt (wins), Saturday, 12 July 2025 08:21 (two months ago)
One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This Omar El Akkadintense short book with ex pat Palestinian journalist looking at current situation as well as vignettes from his own life. Very good read. Has me wanting to read more by him, his 2 novels will hopefully follow shortly.Have had this borrowed for a while and only just got it read which took a couple of evening reading times. Glad I got to it.
Not the enemy : Israel's Jews from Arab lands Rachel ShabiIsrael resident misrahi jewish journalist looks into abuse of generations of Arabic jews in Israel. Pretty interesting so glad I finally got to this.
― Stevo, Saturday, 12 July 2025 09:08 (two months ago)
I've started John Lahr's biography of Tennessee Williams, *Mad Pilgrimage of the Flesh*.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 July 2025 09:23 (two months ago)
Seems Gaddis got on a Bernhard kick in the 90s, after Carpenter's Gothic (https://www.williamgaddis.org/critinterpessays/secrethistoryaa.shtml). So yeah, Bernhard really did steal his ideas before he had them!
― H.P, Saturday, 12 July 2025 13:11 (two months ago)
flopson, I finished On Stalin's Team this morning, quite hilarious in parts.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 July 2025 13:15 (two months ago)
Gave up on Westmoreland’s Tramps Like Us. Perhaps one of the most disappointing books I have ever read. Dull narrator, dull style, dull characterization, and what finally made me put it down was some weird racial descriptors that icked me out.
Of course, Hilton Als, Eileen Myles, and Dwight Garner give it praise, so I probably should have stayed far far away. Learned my lesson.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 14 July 2025 16:46 (two months ago)
I usually don't mind Hilton Als' recommendations. He just published a lovely piece in The New Yorker on being Black and queer at Columbia University.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 July 2025 17:01 (two months ago)
I finished Umberto Saba's Ernesto, about a boy who realizes his gayness after allowing himself to get fucked by an older man. Saba left it unfinished, but it's grimly hilarious.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 July 2025 17:02 (two months ago)
I liked Ernesto.
I dislike Als' style, really, but that's a me thing.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 14 July 2025 17:33 (two months ago)
Been longer than I can remember since reading The New Yorker, but always enjoyed Als essays there, the reviews not as much, and his intro to The Early Stories of Truman Capote seemed a bit awkward, but his own books have good reps. Dwight Garner gets 0 cred from me.
― dow, Monday, 14 July 2025 21:34 (two months ago)
No cred as writer or reader.
― dow, Monday, 14 July 2025 21:35 (two months ago)
Akimitsu Takagi - The Noh Mask Murder (1950)Yukito Ayatsuji - The Decagon House Murders (1987)Keigo Higashino - Malice (1996)Uketsu - Strange Pictures (2022)
I haven't read much this year, but this month i finished some japanese mysteries from different eras. First two take a lot from Agatha Christie's "And then there were none". Malice has a detective speedrun a familiar Christie plot then spend the rest of the book looking for the motive. Strange Pictures seems aimed at a younger audience than the others but it was my favorite of these. Just staring at the doodles and trying to guess their hidden meanings is fun and original. The author has a popular youtube channel which I wish I understood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos
― adamt (abanana), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 03:01 (two months ago)
That's Uketsu Youtube link
(the Uketsu is currently cheap on kobo.com and probably elsewhere)
― koogs, Tuesday, 15 July 2025 03:54 (two months ago)
Well, what I dislike about Als (mostly from his reviews, I realize, like dow) is that I have problems with his syntax. For example, the blurb on the front of the book I just didn’t finish because it was so terrible, read “An achievement, in the major category.” What the fuck! And then I realized he does this a lot in his reviews, as if weird construction is a sign of style or substance. Anyway.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 12:00 (two months ago)
I am now reading Barbara Payton’s memoir, I Am Not Ashamed.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 12:01 (two months ago)
Today, we’ve mostly forgotten about Gardner. But in the sixties and seventies, he was a star: a regular at Bread Loaf, and an advocate for a kind of mimesis he called “the vivid and continuous dream.” He taught writers such as Charles Johnson, Toni Morrison, Tim O’Brien, Raymond Carver, and many others, many of whom went on to great success. He made himself into an icon of the postwar realist-fiction boom and of the nascent creative-writing industrial complex. And then, just as his career was reaching top speed, it tipped over. The wreckage, you can imagine, was fiery.
― dow, Wednesday, 16 July 2025 04:10 (two months ago)
Mainly interested because
an advocate for a kind of mimesis he called “the vivid and continuous dream.” He taught writers such as Charles Johnson, Toni Morrison, Tim O’Brien, Raymond Carver,
― dow, Wednesday, 16 July 2025 04:15 (two months ago)
One problem with that combination: dreams don't seem all that continuous, or least, on the page, can seem like literary choreography, Ice Capades, which seems to go against the point of transparent prose, at least in terms of staying unobtrusively immersive; I can dig the Ice Capades on the page, but at some level I'm never unaware of the artifice (like I said about the dream resolution of one of of Katherine Anne Porter's Miranda stories)---still, I wonder about how he does it---
― dow, Wednesday, 16 July 2025 04:27 (two months ago)
Also, what's a good collection of Chekhov stories? I mostly know the plays.
― dow, Thursday, 17 July 2025 00:03 (two months ago)
This one:
Amazon.com: Stories of Anton Chekhov: 8601409877938: Chekhov, Anton, Pevear, Richard, Volokhonsky, Larissa, Pevear, Richard: Books https://share.google/Q8F2p0NsqP1RJb40Q
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 July 2025 00:27 (two months ago)
Thanks! Was already looking at another Pevear, 52 Stories, Vintage Classics. Is that likely to be overkill? Have read that his early stories were mostly for the money.
― dow, Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:18 (two months ago)
So long as Pevear's the translator.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 July 2025 18:21 (two months ago)
the penguin 52 stories ebook is about 4x the price of the other in the uk
i did get to volume 6 (of 13?) of the ones on project Gutenberg but i know Constance whoever is not considered the best
― koogs, Thursday, 17 July 2025 21:15 (two months ago)
(there are like 4 other penguin collections on top of the 52 stories, not sure on the overlap, because the translated names are not always consistent)
― koogs, Thursday, 17 July 2025 21:16 (two months ago)
52 Stories is a companion to selected stories in that the two have no crossover.
― adamt (abanana), Friday, 18 July 2025 01:24 (two months ago)
Penelope Fitzgerald, The Gate of Angels. Short and sweet, I finished it in two evenings. Maybe one of her slighter works but as usual it's a perfect recreation of a lost world, and the imitation MR James story in the middle is a treat.
― Lulu and Stormzy live back to back (ledge), Friday, 18 July 2025 09:12 (two months ago)
I finished Wounded, Percival Everett's bizarre take on the Matthew Shepard murder: a Black man and his uncle in remote Wyoming deal with neo-Nazis while the gay son of a college friend moves in with them. The novel does its mightiest not to resolve any of its plot points.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 July 2025 10:18 (two months ago)
I've read two Everett novels so far and they also share this mischievous streak.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 July 2025 10:30 (two months ago)
This is my fourth. I can't say any one is major, but he can plot a narrative.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 July 2025 13:07 (two months ago)
xxxxpost thanks all---found complete table of contents of Selected Stories on BarnesandNoble.com, going with that one first. Also came across Pevear's translation of The Complete Short Novels (Chekhov's): any of you know that one?
― dow, Friday, 18 July 2025 18:11 (two months ago)
Finished Barbara Payton’s I AmNot Ashamed, an absolutely wild book that I am sure some of you have read. What a tragic figure, and what an indictment of celebrity culture.
Now reading Tom Crewe’s The New Life, which I bought because an algorithm recommended it and it actually looked interesting. 20 pages in and I am hooked, least of all because the book’s first two pages are extremely…arousing, shall I say.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 19 July 2025 12:40 (two months ago)
Oh, I loved The New Life. It's made the last couple of Hollinghurst novels irrelevant.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 July 2025 12:50 (two months ago)
Nice to hear. Other than a concert tonight and some writing time, it shall be my main occupation today
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 19 July 2025 13:47 (two months ago)
Elsa Morante - Lies and Sorcery.
Only a hundred pages in so far and its a fairly ambitious fusion of both myth and family tragedy. Feels very Italian in an almost operatic mode of shouting matches. I want to see how the myths the narrator is creating around to shield herself from the family situation work through.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 July 2025 14:37 (two months ago)
Now in the home stretch of The Power and the Glory, and pretty sure I'm going to file my reading experience as Art Appreciation. Massing, relentlessly apt sentences leave room for mimetic slogging---yes, this is part of life, part of truth as well, incl. slogging-in-your-face ugliness---which itself leaves room for wondering how the unnamed "whisky (sic) priest" has managed to get through ten years of knocking around this apparently small state of mostly small bare-ass villages, whose inhabitants shoo him on, although they do want him to perform some priestly functions first---but still, they don't want him to stick around, and they don't have or give much in the way of supplies, and certainly not money, which he always seems to have at least a little of, sometimes more.Also, the business with the dog, and even worse, his daughter, who is ridic Eveeel, as seen by him and her mother, the only POVs we get. The English expat girl is wonderful, but---semi-spoiler---the author seems to have discarded her.And as far as desolation goes, Samuel Beckett he ain't.So far, I prefer the way the pop side of his brain engaged my likewise in the "Catholic novels" that are considered by some crits to be not quite as highly artistic/organic: Brighton Rock and even The End of the Affair (Yes: God/Greene as Mr. Natural, Humanity as Flakey Foont, on a lightning-lit, zigzag path). Haven't yet read The Heart of the Matter.
― dow, Tuesday, 22 July 2025 21:21 (two months ago)
Brighton Rock is my favorite: a homoerotic crime novel with ambitions. I read The Comedians during the height of the pandemic: Conrad with laffs.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 21:24 (two months ago)
I finished the narrative history of Captain Cook's last voyage, The Wide, Wide Sea a while back. It was a well-assembled narrative that covered a lot of ground.
Now I'm reading City of Illusions, and early sci-fi novel of Ursula Le Guin, set on a far future Earth. It is raising the sort of themes dear to Phillip K Dick, but from a much different sensibility. Better written than PKD, too.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 22:22 (two months ago)
I finished Mildred Pierce. It’s quite a shift from Double Indemnity and Postman Rings Twice, as Cain jettisons the hectic plotting and violent crime and replaces it with a somewhat meandering tale of small business and family drama. Still a fun read.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 15:54 (two months ago)
The sociological detail of Mildred Pierce impressed me.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 July 2025 16:05 (two months ago)
Looked at his Wikipedia page and was surprised to see how many books Cain wrote. Though it seems that soon after MP his critical stock went into an irreversible decline. Some sound kind of wild. Feeling a strong sense of curiosity to check out something like his Civil War historical novel featuring a hoodoo cursed cotton crop.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 20:27 (two months ago)
I want there to be some Cain in local library (think they used to have that Civil War novel and maybe a Western), must check.I don't know if Le Guin was consistently better than PKD, but maybe sometimes, and yeah different sensibility. The only novels of hers that I've read: The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed, both powerfully distinctive.An interviewer asked her about going to Berkeley High with him, and she said, although they went the same years, that neither she nor any classmates she'd asked had any memory of him from then, and he sure wasn't in the yearbooks (I knew a guy who managed that last in our school, but was pretty sociable otherwise).
― dow, Wednesday, 23 July 2025 21:32 (two months ago)
I went straight from The Gate of Angels to re-reading The Blue Flower. All the ingredients of her work are there - a miraculous recreation of a lost world, a sly humour, a meticulous regard for people's feelings - but here the whole is more than the (considerable) sum of its parts. It's much deeper than The Gate of Angels, It took me twice as long to read even though the story could be described in two short lines.
― ledge, Thursday, 24 July 2025 08:27 (two months ago)
I reread The Blue Flower last month. I don't like it as much as Offshore, The Bookshop, or Human Voices.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 July 2025 09:23 (two months ago)
I think it's her masterpiece but it's hard to say why - just vibes, man! Human Voices and At Freddies are the only two of her novels I haven't read. The Beginning of Spring is sort of a midpoint between The Blue Flower and The Bookshop or Offshore - an amazing recreation of another time and place (more so than the bookshop or offshore which are set more recently and more recognisable) but less mystical, more human interest (not that there aren't relatable human characters in The Blue Flower but Fritz is not among them).
― ledge, Thursday, 24 July 2025 10:12 (two months ago)
I agree with that.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 July 2025 10:18 (two months ago)
She wrote no bad books imo
I didn't really enjoy the Golden Child, otherwise agreed, pending completion. Innocence is a third I haven't read! Not counting her biographies but I could be tempted, just based on the strength of her writing.
― ledge, Thursday, 24 July 2025 10:24 (two months ago)
Her first book, I think, was The Knox Brothers, about her father and uncles, really good, and, "I can't believe I never heard of them!" exclaimed my anglophile bookworm aunt after reading it. It's actually the only one of hers I've read, and yall are reminding me that I need to catch up.
So xxxxpost The Power and the Glory ended better than I thought it might, ff going back to third person watching different players take the lead. I say "players" in part because as characters they mostly seem like segments, of thematic qualities and identities: "Here is another Indian, another mestizo villager, another urban person with a bit more money and property."The English expat family, though not the lonely expat dentist, are the only characters with first and last names, if you count "Mr. Fellowes," and you should, since he's the only Mr. Gloria, the priest's baby mama, and Brigette, their eeeevil baby, are the only mestizos (?) with first names. Gloria and the nameless but fanged mestizo are effective, and the lieutenant (Indian) very much so---goes with having a name, or at least a rank, in his case."Thematic" also in the musical sense: recurring and ongoing motifs, even w granular scenes, and other cinematic qualities (he was or had been reviewing a lot of movies while writing this).
― dow, Thursday, 24 July 2025 22:33 (two months ago)
(Fitzgerald bio by Hermione Lee really good read too, and spilled some beans re stiff upper lip The Knox Brothers and Fitz otherwise---James Wood was upset to learn that she wouldn't ask her rich old daddy for help in getting her kids off the funky houseboat, which sank at least once that I can recall [her reason for being late to class, she told her students].)
― dow, Thursday, 24 July 2025 22:42 (two months ago)
So what I mean about The Power and the Glory: will prob get pulled back in at some point, but initial impression is, it's not too long, but too wide---might have been better to spend more time with fewer characters, if the fewer could be more individual, or deeper/more detailed representatives. Not more time with the whisky priest, who talks too much, as he'd probably agree, while doing it some more.
― dow, Friday, 25 July 2025 02:38 (two months ago)
I took a break from Lahr's biography of Tennessee Williams. It's good and compelling (how could it not be). Still, I kept finding myself checking the date of publication, wondering how a book from 2014 could use words like 'hysteric' without any gloss whatsoever (about Williams's mother, Edwina). Lahr also alternates between the work and the life, treating them both as texts to explicate, without recourse to any form of hedging language or tentativity.
Reading *To the Lighthouse* and feeling utterly enfolded by it.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 25 July 2025 08:48 (two months ago)
Is there a writers who are good thread? I guess it's probably here. Woolf writing about empty places is like the world letting out huge sorrowful sighs:
And now as if the cleaning and the scrubbing and the scything and the mowing had drowned it there rose that half-heard melody, that intermittent music which the ear half catches but lets fall; a bark, a bleat; irregular, intermittent, yet somehow related; the hum of an insect, the tremor of cut grass, dissevered yet somehow belonging; the jar of a dor beetle, the squeak of a wheel, loud, low, but mysteriously related; which the ear strains to bring together and is always on the verge of harmonising but they are never quite heard, never fully harmonised, and at last, in the evening, one after another the sounds die out, and the harmony falters, and silence falls. With the sunset sharpness was lost, and like mist rising, quiet rose, quiet spread, the wind settled; loosely the world shook itself down to sleep, darkly here without a light to it, save what came green suffused through leaves, or pale on the white flowers by the window.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 25 July 2025 15:33 (two months ago)
That 'quiet rose, quiet spread' is unspeakably beautiful.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 25 July 2025 15:36 (two months ago)
There’s that literary treats one
― sideshow melt (wins), Friday, 25 July 2025 15:43 (two months ago)
Speaking of Woolf, a friend posted this today, looks fascinating!
https://www.semiotexte.com/shop/p/on-virginia-woolf Sylvère Lotringer: On Virginia Woolf — Semiotext(e)
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 25 July 2025 16:29 (two months ago)
For my YA lit class, I finished the first of Amie Kaufman and Jay Kristoff’s Illuminae trilogy, which was actually quite a well-done work, reminding me at times of ‘The Expanse’ and other such sci-fi ventures. The authors cleverly utilize lots of graphics and different narrative voices to form a sort of dossier about a series of unfortunate events on a shitty cold planet and several spacecraft. The center is, of course, a love story. I enjoyed enough that I might try to read the other two books at some point!
I am about finished Tom Crewe’s The New Life, and I can see disaster approaching. It is a great book, truly living up to its plaudits.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 26 July 2025 12:31 (two months ago)
hang on tight!
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 July 2025 12:36 (two months ago)
Well, disaster was averted, in some ways.
Strangely, despite my own “queer as in fuck you” type of stance to the world, I agreed with those in the novel who thought of Addington as selfish. It truly did seem to me that he had been gripped by a mania that followed an extreme logic: that his own life and homosexuality could only be justified by the law and by society’s acceptance. This sort of acceptance is helpful, yes— I would certainly prefer to live in a less homophobic society— but also not necessary to feel acceptance of one’s self. This seemed to be his fundamental flaw, which everyone else around him saw, but which he refused to acknowledge until the end, if at all.
Anyway, great book, quite glad I read it.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 26 July 2025 21:26 (two months ago)
Continuing my first Narnia read (in publication order - I’m not a monster) and finished Dawn Treader. The best yet but some distance. Disturbing, fun, and full of memorable images. The dragon coming out of the hole and dying on the spot - yeesh.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 27 July 2025 18:26 (two months ago)
Today I finished another book for my YA class, a classic which I had never read: The Giver by Lois Lowry. A strange book, not totally certain why it’s so controversial. I mostly found it reactionary in its extolling of the virtues of individuality and the “inevitable” totalitarian nature of communism, but most of the hubbub around it seems to be more about the baby-killing.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 July 2025 22:38 (two months ago)
Anyway, I finished that, and also began Pier Vittorio Tondelli’s ‘Separate Rooms,’ which I am enjoying so far
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 July 2025 22:39 (two months ago)
Yeah, getting to be time for a re-read of xetcpost of The Lighthouse and Ulysses---good critical editions of these, or for the Joyce should I get a sep guide, and if so which one?
(Read both of these for same course as aforementioned The Power and the Glory---so wish I could remember classroom discussion of that one! But not a cell for anything about it, unlike the other two.)(We were supposed to read Bloomsday as well, but I didn't, and now it's out of print?)
― dow, Sunday, 27 July 2025 22:54 (two months ago)
The Bachelor Of Arts, R.K. Narayan - My third Narayan; previous two had been straight comedic, so it took a while for me to understand that the gently satiric tone of this one wasn't meant to provide belly laughs. It's a bildungsroman, I guess. Didn't connect with much of it, except the passages towards the end where he starts expressing sadness at having already forgotten his former classmates, I guess I'm just a sad git these days. Protagonist ends up in an arranged marriage - happily - with a fifteen year old, himself having already graduated from university. Something I need to brace for if I'm reading a book from India written in the 1930's, I guess.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 28 July 2025 09:11 (two months ago)
Read Bruce Holsinger's The Displacements this weekend. A gigantic hurricane basically obliterates Miami, and then Houston. The story takes place in a FEMA tent city in Oklahoma and the main characters are a rich Florida family (mom is a sculptor, kids are annoying in various ways) who are suddenly broke and, oh yeah, Dad faked his death and stole their money and is hiding out in Guatemala. It was mostly OK, if too pat by half and the author went with a really annoying framing device (government reports about the impact of the tragedy on US society as people climate-migrated out of Florida and Texas) that he wound up not even really doing enough with. I don't know if I'd recommend it, exactly, but it was mildly diverting.
Also read RJ Smith's The One: The Life and Music of James Brown and James McBride's Kill 'Em and Leave: Searching for James Brown and the American Soul. Wrote an essay about those, and JB generally, for my newsletter; it'll be published tomorrow.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 28 July 2025 17:48 (two months ago)
Here's the James Brown piece.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 14:43 (two months ago)
Bookmarked!
I've been in a bit of what the kids call a 'reading slump' lately, largely owing to my Summer allergies (and some other maladies--more annoying than serious) that have been kicking my ass all month and leaving me drowsy after reading a few pages of anything. The LAMBDA Literary noms are announced tomorrow, though, bringing me a (presumably) fresh batch of Queer YA/CL, so hopefully that gets me back at it. I also just got word that I am teaching an upper-level Queer Theory course in the Fall, so I have a batch of stuff I need to read or re-read in crafting the syllabus.
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 14:56 (two months ago)
I've reading Terry Golway's history of Tammany Hall Machine Made, Brendan Taylor's Real Life, and the excellent 33 1/3 about Donna Summer's Once Upon a Time.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 14:59 (two months ago)
That 33 1/3 looks promising. I like it when they go slightly less canonical (surely Bad Girls would have been the obvious choice?).
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 15:02 (two months ago)
crypto, i forgot the noms are tomorrow! exciting
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 15:02 (two months ago)
Separate Rooms, fwiw, is an amazing book
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 15:03 (two months ago)
Currently reading "The Correspondence of Samuel Clarke and Anthony Collins, 1707-08", edited by William Uzgalis, and "The Real Story of Ah-Q and Other Tales of China" by Lu Xun, translated by Julia Lovell.
― o. nate, Friday, 1 August 2025 15:19 (one month ago)
I read The New Life with my book club, we all thought it was provocative and very interesting. But we also thought that about On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous. We are reading Vuong's second book for our next meeting, which I will be hosting. I'm not so concerned about what the reaction will be, but I will let you know.
As hosts we are tasked with putting forward 5 books which are then voted on in two rounds of voting. We are older gay men who have been together for 30 years, and this system has been honed down and has worked for us. I really am in awe of the erudition and thoughtfulness of my book club mates
Does anyone have suggestions for books I could recommend? I would like to recommend Miranda July's All Fours, I really loved it but it may be too divisive. Or Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's Amerikanah, which I have started reading, but it may be too long
The last book I recommended that we chose was The Fraud by Zadie Smith, which I think I hated more than anyone else, so I don't have a good track record
― Dan S, Friday, 1 August 2025 23:57 (one month ago)
I am about to finish Pier Vittorio Tondelli’s Separate Rooms, which I think would be a good suggestion for your group
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 August 2025 01:52 (one month ago)
was this the 'young men aren't reading any more' thread?
I've just been through Amazon's monthly deals and it feels like it's aimed at women. but that might be a reaction to the above rather than the cause. or it could be me, not in the young men category, on account of my age.
wayr content: the odyssey (rieu, rieu, Jones translation) the penelopiad (Atwood's version told by the woman left behind)pat barker's the voyage home (related in that it's cassandra's voyage after the fall of iliad to Agamemnon's home and their deaths)
― koogs, Saturday, 2 August 2025 02:24 (one month ago)
Just finished the Tondelli— a slim, rather remarkable book about a young writer whose younger partner dies, and who then goes through an extensive and existential journey toward understanding his own desires, his writing, his place in the world.
Luca Guadignino is to be making a movie of it soon, apparently!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 August 2025 02:57 (one month ago)
It sounds good, I will look into it. Luca Guadagnino is shooting a film right now in my neighborhood about Sam Altman who lives around the corner from me. It's titled Artificial and apparently stars Andrew Garfield. I don't think I will want to watch it.
They've blocked all of the streets off here so no deliveries can get in.
― Dan S, Saturday, 2 August 2025 03:19 (one month ago)
That sounds irritating, but don’t let it dissuade you from the Tondelli.
Here’s a single paragraph taken from the book’s first section:
When he was not much more than a boy, he had started to write. He had gone to museums and art exhibitions. He had seen films or plays every day. All his friends talked about was football, and their improbable sexual adven-tures. Neither interested him in the least. The kind of life that lay behind that kind of chatter sickened him. But in the darkness of a film club or the hush of a museum he could feel his difference from others as a strength. He learned more and more, and started to acquire knowledge. When he had started to write he did so because it struck him as the most natural way of expressing how different he felt. But now, ten or fifteen years later, even writing has become a profession for him, a craft. And when he looks at the things all around him there is a melancholy jest to his words: I earned that pair of vases from a coed-iting project... those marble lions from India represent five reviews... the bed and the wardrobe a book... the couch and the kitchen and the bar, another book... and that bottle of Cognac sponsored an article on Florence.At such moments he sees everything like a prison built of words become objects of barter. The John Fante tele-vision, the Jack Kerouac dishwasher, the Peter Handke chairs, the Patricia Highsmith plants, the Linus table, the Rockstar bookcase, the L'Espresso wardrobe, the Transeuropa Editions computer, the German translation rights bathroom marble, the Turkish translation rights in France rugs, the film rights car. Words, and more words. He lives on words, eats them, quite literally. And at three or five in the morning, when he adds ice to his favorite rum in the Christopher Isherwood crystal tumbler, for a split second he wonders anxiously: "How many words am I actually drinking now? And what story do they come from?" He had entrusted all his angst, and all his desire to change his life around, to words. Not to literature yet, not even to books, but to letters and to short stories. And now he finds himself reduced to nothing by feeling no desire either for words or for things. And if he looks beyond himself, if he sees how other people go about their lives, if he sees, above all, who exactly these other people are, these people who are involved in the same business as he, he feels once more plunged back in that high school classroom from which he has spent years trying to escape. The others are still talking sport. So and so, they tell him, is doing well in geography, someone else in natural sciences, others in chemistry, social studies, history and religion. Among his contemporaries and colleagues, too, he sees some who have gone into academia or politics, just as, back then, he saw the fifteen-year-old son of the business consultant successfully inherit his father's practice, the chairmanship of the local Rotary Club or Lions Club, as well as becoming ward secretary of the ruling political party. He sees these careers and feels in a trap once more. He wants to quit class and leave his friends, so that he can pursue his own different destiny. But everything is harder now. There is almost no way out, because Leo is weighed down precisely by the fact that he has opted for freedom. There is no escaping now. All he can do is stay quiet and keep out of trouble.
I admit that the subject might feel closer to me than usual— after all, the protagonist is also a writer and a gay man in the first throes of midlife— but as noted with the Westmoreland book in this thread and others, I tend to be harder on books that feel close to my own subjectivity.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 August 2025 12:17 (one month ago)
I am finished with the YA course, and so am now preparing for the semester, trying to plan my readings for a fiction workshop. Today, though, I plan on reading Sebastian Castillo’s new one, discussed above. It has already made me laugh out loud several times, only 30 pages in.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 August 2025 12:19 (one month ago)
Finished Castillo’s Fresh, Green Life. A satisfying and strangely provocative book that also happens to be hilarious.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 August 2025 21:27 (one month ago)
Thank you, table! I definitely want to read both the Tondelli and Castillo books
― Dan S, Sunday, 3 August 2025 00:07 (one month ago)
I haven't read this thread much in a while.
Also this discussion overlooks the fact that there still are superstar SWM novelists, e.g. Knausgaard. "My Struggle" was pretty much as much of a deep dive into the interiority of a SWM as one could ask for. Maybe he did it so well that we don't need another one for a while.
― o. nate, Thursday, July 3, 2025
I don't know if he is a superstar novelist, but his books have intrigued me. My Struggle was a series of six fairly long books which have seemed somewhat intimidating to me - A Death In the Family,A Man In Love,Boyhood Island, Dancing In the Dark, Some Rain Must Fall, and The End.
Speaking of Norwegian novelists, I've listened to Jon Fosse's Septology series on Audible. My most cosmopolitan literary cousin tried to read them, rolled her eyes and gave up. I think they just have to be listened to. The series is broken down into three novels, The Other Name,I Is Another,and A New Name. The books are a total mindfuck, composed of one endless run-on sentence with "I think," capping off almost every phrase, with eerily repeated scenes and multiple doppelgangers and an obsession with identity and art and religion, and very attuned to life in rural Norway. I thought they were fantastic
― Dan S, Sunday, 3 August 2025 01:42 (one month ago)
Because of a recent interest the rhetorical use of repetition in Ted Enslin’s poems, Beckett’s novels, and Burroughs, I read a book by the latter that I had never read, nor even seen, before— Cobble Stone Gardens. I picked it up at a book fair for a good price last weekend….
like most of Burroughs, it is what one would expect, though I admit that there is an autobiographical strain here mixed with Wild Boys style cut-up pornography and political fury that is potent, tho I am glad it is short and I can move on with my day now.
A stand out quote: “A fish jumps. Money changes hands. The fever smell in a Model T Ford. Look at me. Smell the stagnant past. Lost animals in the blue sky color of his eyes.”
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 3 August 2025 12:13 (one month ago)
Last night I finished Nora Fulton’s latest poetry collection, Cuckoo’s Low Reel, and it is perhaps her greatest achievement yet— funny, formally inspired, provocative. It also includes one of the hallmarks of her work, a disorienting mix of vernacular culture and language flushed with the language of theory. Love her, love her work!!
This morning, I began the reissue of Pierre Clémenti’s A Few Personal Messages, which I picked up having no idea what it was, then bought simply because Dennis Cooper wrote an enthusiastic blurb for the book’s back cover. I realized only after I bought it that I have seen Clémenti in a few films, and so that made it all the more interesting to me. So far, quite good and of course damning of systems of incarceration.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 4 August 2025 12:47 (one month ago)
a disorienting mix of vernacular culture and language flushed with the language of theory
Now I want to read it (but probably not for the same reason, to be honest).
― alimosina, Monday, 4 August 2025 16:09 (one month ago)
Ha!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 4 August 2025 16:50 (one month ago)
Although I didn't care for/about the beginning and end, was quite pleasantly surprised to be pulled through the weekend via A Different Drummer(1962), by William Melvin Kelly: it's on the silky side of transparent prose, even when briefly mentioning those "flat-faced buildings" passing by again, and dusty rectangles under the beds, ones that used to frame battered suitcases, until very recentlyWith an audience of white men and little boy, a young black farmer, with a big head and a little body, carries large bags on his back across his fields, 'til he succeeds in completely covering them with salt. Then he kills his cow and horse, each with one shot. He burns down his house, and sets out on foot to town, with his wife and children. The white boy, a friend runs to ask the farmer what's going on, and the farmer tells him something. Every Negro in town, and then the whole (fictitious, unnamed) state quickly follows, not bothering to burn anything, just getting on the back of the bus and leaving: mostly going North, anyway starting over.Conditions in the outside world aren't discussed; life without n-words is discussed by rednecks, not so fresh out of the can, likewise the predictable, dated melodrama of the ending, dependent on fatal coincidence etc. Most of the characters are white Southerners, and the Black author does much better with ones of the middle class and higher, female as well as male (at 24, he gets the voices of girls and women as well as any male writer has.)Despite this debut's bookend flaws, there's an accomplished sense of justice for all.
― dow, Monday, 4 August 2025 22:29 (one month ago)
There is of course no explanation of how non-ambulatory Negroes make it to the bus, but we are told that they all have exact change! Also that flames move though the farmer's curtains like somebody who is thinking about buying the house, although usual prose is more transparent.
― dow, Tuesday, 5 August 2025 21:36 (one month ago)
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table),
I hit pg. 219 today. It reminds me of The Farewell Symphony in its tediousness about recounting every hookup.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2025 21:51 (one month ago)
xpost But the character who eventually starts the "Black Jesuits" loses all his marbles, at least in the brains sense, when he thinks that the Southern Negroes have solved all their problems without him (who has never even been South), simply or at all by going North---gptta be smarter than that tp be a successful cult leader, which he is: the touch of early 60s fabulism begins to turn into something clunky, nearing the finale. (I'll shut up now.)
― dow, Tuesday, 5 August 2025 21:55 (one month ago)
Nothing very exciting here. On my recent camping/hiking trip I read another Maigret novel by Simenon, an early one titled Maigret and the Enigmatic Lett.
I also read most of A Primate's Memoir, Robert Sapolsky, about his many years of field work observing baboons. It alternates between descriptions of the social interactions among his troop of baboons and descriptions of his social interactions with the local Masai and other native Africans, mostly in Kenya. It was published in 2001 and covers a time period in the 1980s and 90s, out in the deeper 'bush', where it was still possible to find locals who were unfamiliar with the very concept of a map. Probably not a very good guide to understanding contemporary Kenya.
He affects a jaunty style of storytelling, going heavy on the need to make it entertaining. He generally succeeds, but it sometimes degenerates into try-hard flippancy. His publisher was probably trying to ride the coattails of the Feynman craze. Anyway, as a document of a period fast receding, it has a certain charm.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 August 2025 22:34 (one month ago)
I sped through another Maigret novel and decided I needed a change of pace, so I've started on The Emigrants, W.G. Sebald. This is my second book of his. The first was Austerlitz.
I'm not quite sure how well I like his essentially flattened writing style or how much his inserted photographs really add to my reading experience. For me, they are ciphers, empty images inviting me to endow them with mysterious meaning, and I'm disinclined to pay them that kind of attention. On the other hand, this does qualify as a change of pace for me, which is what I was seeking.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 11 August 2025 22:35 (one month ago)
I finished Clémenti's A Few Personal Messages, which was a clear-eyed and damning view of the carceral system.
I also finished a short and lurid little book by Dodie Bellamy and Bob Harrison, Broken English.
I began a book of poems by Jean Daive, translated by Norma Cole, A Woman With Several Lives, which is ostensibly "about" the life of Lorine Niedecker. Interesting, if a bit abstract, in typical Daive style.
I am also prepping for teaching my first fiction class in several years, and so have been flipping around in various books this week, including some Dennis Cooper, Harry Mathews, Jenny Zhang, Brian Evenson, and more.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 11 August 2025 23:24 (one month ago)
table, your depth of reading is amazing to me. I can only hope to read a fraction of the stuff you mention
I like that the Dennis Cooper novels evolved over time from completely nihilistic to something more redemptive
I finished Amerikanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I'm now listening the five Patrick Melrose novels by Edward St. Aubyn, written between the early 1990s and 2012. They are about an effete upper class British man who was sexually abused as a child and who becomes a lost adult. The second novel Bad Luck is about his degradation as a 23-year old in NY in the 90s, deep into drug addiction and trying to score.
I listen to these on audio when I come awake at night, but they are keeping me awake
― Dan S, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 01:45 (one month ago)
Failed Summer Vacation, Heuijung Hur - Picked this up on a whim from a local bookshop recommendations section. First story is sci-fi; second, about a guy's obsession with the message board for a cancelled rock band, is more representative of her general mode, which is to say a kind of bleak magic realism that deliberately leaves much untold. Of course for a music geek it's always interesting to see how western pop gets refracted in different cultures - the story mentions the rock band's dwindling chart positions, not something I can imagine most current bands caring about that much, and the singer's prison sentence for spiking a fan's drink, perhaps the least credible event in a collection that also features a dude shrinking into nothingness and killer plants. Mostly these stories aim for a kind of minimalist blankness. Kafka definitely a big influence. I dunno, I think this is not sufficiently my kind of thing for me to provide a good judgement on whether it's a good version of said kind of thing.
Now reading The List, a novella within that Slow Horses universe a lot of people enjoy, for book club. Nothing too exciting so far but it does a good job of continuing that Greene/Le Carré tradition of sad English spy men, and that is a place I feel comfortable in.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 13 August 2025 11:23 (one month ago)
Have read a lot about Celine and his books, never read them. Seems like one would be worthwhile, also prob enough. Should it be Journey To The End of the Night?
― dow, Thursday, 14 August 2025 01:02 (one month ago)
To be that guy, I will ask: why read the work of such a demonstrably vile person? Not trying to ignite an art/artist discussion but really, Nazi collaborator? Someone the Nazis considered extreme in his views?
I have thought about this recently because I have been reading about and thus excerpts from Carl Schmitt, a fascist/Nazi whose philosophical writings continue to be debated and influential to state craft today. What it comes down to with him is that many of his diagnoses are correct, but his proposed responses are unspeakable.
With Céline, having read two of his books in French in college, I can honestly say that it simply isn’t worth the time— they aren’t interesting or good enough to justify reading a Nazi.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 August 2025 01:15 (one month ago)
I read Death on the Installment Plan in a college Continental lit class: too long, and it has an extended gross-out sequence that I won't er spoil.
The line with me is if the books evince Nazism and iirc they don't. Same with Knut Hamsun, to me the better novelist.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 August 2025 01:47 (one month ago)
Celine is a really great writer to me and I've read almost everything of published in English, and will probably read the next translation.
I wouldn't buy the books if he was a beneficiary, but as he's dead..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 August 2025 10:32 (one month ago)
Yeah, he's dead, and that hero journalist made sure his widow doesn't even benefit from that book that was uncovered recently.
I can totally understand not wanting to ever be in the headspace of a nazi writer, as a personal reading choice, but I don't think reading Celine is some sort of moral failing or that it reinforces fascism. I'd wager most of his audience in 2025 despises his actual worldview.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 14 August 2025 12:18 (one month ago)
exactly
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 August 2025 12:29 (one month ago)
"Yeah, he's dead, and that hero journalist made sure his widow doesn't even benefit from that book that was uncovered recently."
Yup! That was an excellent move xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 August 2025 12:29 (one month ago)
I never said it was a moral failing, I just question why, because I didn't think the books all that special plus he was a Nazi.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 August 2025 15:58 (one month ago)
Thanks yall, will keep your comments in mind.just finished another unexpectedly quick read, for yet more mixed impressions---but Nickel Mountain. my first John Gardner (the only one in local library) is not nearly close to xpost William Melvin Kelly's A Different Drummer or aforementioned The Power and the Glory, its turns into possible insight, striking ones, tend to go nowhere plot-wise, and they're in or between vast slogging scenes and/or meticulous descriptions of physical labor, tasks, chores, also drawn-out, w/o drawing me in: what Mary McCarthy called "boilerplate," to impress the reader with realness.The main characters to tend to live toward and in and sometimes through private crises, with symptoms sone of them can't help but indicate to friends 'n' neighbors (this being somewhat Catskills Gothi,c a bit Stephen King without the horror, with some of what Sherwood Anderson called his American Grotesque---some of Gardner's characters are even described in a way that reminds me of Anderson's people as sculpted by his wife, Tennessee Mitchell), and a Jehovah's Witness seems to have wandered in from Flannery O'Connor---now, he does advance the storyline, incl. bringing on another crisis, and good for him, amid frequent fog of so-whatness.Nevertheless, old pro JG knows how to breadcrumb even me along through these big-bottom overalls, I mean chapters, so somebody else might get into it more (as w the Kelly and Greene).
― dow, Monday, 18 August 2025 22:01 (one month ago)
Despite gittin lively from time to time, the author seems most interested in inner lives where the more things change--slow-w-w-ly, with feeling and even nuance obediently following or leading---the more, you guessed it, they stay purty much the same, as far as most of us folks of the outer world can tell, even or especially with omniscient narration---though some turns taken in that do help the massive central character continue on his way up to heaven or hell or nowhere in particular, all good (when he's not erupting or imploding).
― dow, Tuesday, 19 August 2025 03:10 (one month ago)
Finished Etel Adnan's Time, an interesting collection of poems reflecting on time, war, and memory, written in very temporally-defined moments and locations for Adnan.
Then decided, what the heck, I'll read Surge, her 2018 book, and found it almost entirely unreadable— vague, Hallmark verses. On the "to sell/give away" pile.
I have now started in on Clark Coolidge's Odes of Roba, a book written during Coolidge's 5 months in Roma in the 1980s. Haven't read a Coolidge for a while, so it's nice to get back into his rhythms and idiosyncrasies.
I've also been reading Lorine Niedecker at night, for some reason I love reading her right before sleep, the work calms me. I have read all of her Collected before, but I usually just skip around and find a page that strikes me and re-read from there. I love her!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 August 2025 15:44 (one month ago)
I started my first Ivy Compton-Burnett novel Pastors and Masters.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 August 2025 15:46 (one month ago)
She's a trip. The one I read in the 80s, blanking on title, was about a family: lots of deadpan inside archery, sometimes reminding me of Henry Green's more dialogue-driven novels, but with her own takes (blanking on better terms, but HG-wannabee she ain't).
― dow, Thursday, 21 August 2025 22:39 (one month ago)
Read a small batch of recent award-winning Queer CL and YA books this month, which I'll summarize here (note: this post is completely skippable for anyone with no interest in the genre).
Molly Beth Griffin and Anait Semirdzhyan (illustrations). Just Us. Sweet picture book about family--two moms and two young children--snowed in on Christmas and unable to spend their traditional holiday with their extended families. The family compensated by creating new traditions, including a video conference with Grandma who walks them through her apple crisp recipe (the instructions are included at the end of the book--a nice touch). Readable as a commentary on how queer families are often forced to create their own rituals and traditions if they are locked out of larger family ones, or just as a nice Christmas story.
Jes and Cin Wibowo. Lunar Boy.Beautifully illustrated graphic novel about an astronaut who discovers a child living alone on the moon, and brings him home to her family on a post-climate change "New Earth." In early adolescence, the child deals with gender identity and first crushes, along with general displacement as an "alien." I think this book bites off a bit more than it can chew, narratively, and the dialogue gets a bit platitude-heavy towards the end (as it frequently does in contemporary Queer CL and YA), but an interesting approach to allegorizing queer childhood and, again, just gorgeous to look at.
Molly Knox Ostertag. The Deep Dark.Another graphic novel, about a queer high school girl with a closeted girlfriend, a beloved sick grandmother and...something trapped in the basement of her house. Much more stark in its illustration than Lunar Boy, but narratively quite satisfying: I could see this being adapted into a solid movie if done right--I was getting I Can See The TV Glow vibes from the early pages, though it eventually develops into something that Guillermo Del Toro could potentially do something with.
Maggie Horne. Noah Frye Gets Crushed.Canadian Middle-grade novel about a 12-year-old girl feeling alienated by her friends' recent discovery of boys. I haven't read a whole lot of queer MG novels, but I really liked this one; it gets at a feeling that probably a lot of queer kids feel around that age (I certainly did), when the rules start changing and you start to feel different, in not always definable ways, from your hetero peers. I'm thinking of put this one on the syllabus for a course I just found out I am teaching in the Fall on The Child in Canadian Literature (discussed in the academia thread), and I'm interested in seeing how my students respond to it.
Chatham Greenfield. Time and Time Again. Queer teenager stuck in a Groundhog Day-like time loop and soon finds that an old friend (and budding crush) is stuck there with her. I resisted this one at first out of exhaustion with the time loop premise, but I actually think this might be one of the strongest uses of that hook that I've encountered. Queer temporality is a popular thread in Queer Theory at the moment, and this novel responds to that in some compelling ways. I may end up writing about this one.
Had another five books on my stack, but I'm gonna have to return them to the library and return to them later, as I have that course to plan now. But I'm pleased: I found two I'll almost certainly be using in my teaching and research, and three others that I'm glad to have read.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 24 August 2025 17:27 (one month ago)
Started John Langan's latest, Lost In The Dark and Other Excursions, on a plane to and from San Francisco this week. Still got a couple of stories left (the flight was only about 2 1/2 hours each way).
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 24 August 2025 19:56 (one month ago)
crypto, I was talking about MG books with a friend a few weeks ago— she has a pretty questioning, possibly queer daughter in middle school— and we both agreed that the problem with them is that they seem written for 4th-5th graders, not for 7th graders (ie 13 year olds). is this just a function of the genre?
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Monday, 25 August 2025 11:13 (one month ago)
It may be, in the sense that the authors--and more crucially the publishers--are probably hyperconscious about "appropriateness" and thus these books are careful not to step over the line towards something that would get them classified YA (or, these days, "pornography"). As most of us likely remember, though, if you are a 12 or a 13 year old who cares about books, you are probably already interested in reading above your "grade" level, and thus it makes sense that queer/questioning 7th graders might want to gravitate towards queer YA materials, rather than what is being pitched at them (in which case we get into issues of access; I don't know how rigorous librarians are about policing what young readers are allowed to check out).
The few MG novels I've read make no mention of sex, desire, etc, which I guess is funny when you consider that Judy Blume's Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret is just about the prototypical contemporary MG novel, and it is full of descriptions of changing bodies, girls sneaking looks at penises in health manuals, and things like that. But, again, I think that the whole network of MG authors and publishers is afraid to touch that stuff now.
I will reiterate that I think a MG book like Noah Frye Gets Crushed (or the books I've read by Michael Leali) feel perfectly pitched at their intended audience, to me, although I don't necessarily presume to know what 12-year-olds these days gravitate towards (for my nieces, it was anime, horror, and Taylor Swift). But ultimately, I suspect--or at least hope--that kids like your friend's daughter will find the literature that speaks to them, ignoring the strict categorizations.
― cryptosicko, Monday, 25 August 2025 12:04 (one month ago)
I've been rather at loose ends, so I've been reading short stories by Chekhov (translators: Pevear & Volokhonsky). Russia at the end of the nineteenth century certainly did not lack for material.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 August 2025 16:41 (one month ago)
I finally finished these. The first two collections in the Lu Xun anthology, Outcry and Hesitation, were fascinating. I don't think I'd ever read any fiction set in early 20th-century China, the chaotic period between the fall of the Emperor and the Communist takeover. And Lu Xun has a very interesting sensibility. The stories often center around a character not unlike the author: a cosmopolitan and educated, but economically precarious, scion of a once-respected but now fallen on hard times family from an provincial village. The stores are often astonishing in their close-run blend of tragedy and grim comedy, and their clear-eyed brutality, a bit like Isaac Babel in that regard.
― o. nate, Friday, 5 September 2025 18:07 (three weeks ago)
It’s been a minute, but thanks for that insight, crypto!!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 6 September 2025 22:54 (three weeks ago)
I'm reading a collection of Stanley Elkin novellas, including "The Making of Ashenden," in which the title character has great sex with a bear.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 September 2025 00:55 (three weeks ago)
Finished a few smaller things, including the great Zan de Parry’s ‘Cop an Emulator.’
Now onto Clark Coolidge’s ‘Mine: The One That Goes Into the Stories,’ and Norma Cole’s ‘My Bird Book.’
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Sunday, 7 September 2025 02:06 (three weeks ago)
Re-reading Paris 1919 … there are absurdist gems worthy of Catch-22 amidst the fairly straightforward history.
― sarahell, Sunday, 7 September 2025 05:51 (three weeks ago)
Started reading "The Unwomanly Face of War" by Svetlana Alexievich. Rather similar to "Last Witnesses" in the content and approach (except that one was about experiences people had as children in WWII, and this one is the experience of (mostly) young women), but I enjoyed that one and I'm enjoying this one too. She writes oral history as found poetry. Even though the words are putatively others', any single page of this would be immediately recognizable as her work.
― o. nate, Friday, 12 September 2025 21:00 (two weeks ago)
finished the Cole, been a bit stuck in a funk otherwise. i really just want to read Norma Cole all the time! but i have a stack to read, so i will find something good
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 September 2025 17:17 (two weeks ago)
I'm rereading Song of Solomon, but my first time was over 25 years ago so much of its developments are fresh. I also bought Ben Shattuck's story collection in anticipation of The History of Sound.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 September 2025 17:25 (two weeks ago)
Today I finished another book for my YA class, a classic which I had never read: The Giver by Lois Lowry. A strange book, not totally certain why it’s so controversial. I mostly found it reactionary in its extolling of the virtues of individuality and the “inevitable” totalitarian nature of communism, but most of the hubbub around it seems to be more about the baby-killing.― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table)
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table)
Old post, I know, but: my elementary school had a copy in its library - I think I first read it in grade 5 or 6 - and we read it as part of the curriculum around age 13 or 14. And these were Catholic schools! Had no idea there was any controversy.
The Giver was the first dystopian story I read and I remember feeling unsettled by it. In a good way - a kid-friendly, gently challenging way. I suspect if I read it now I'd share your reservations about the reactionary elements, though.
― salsa shark, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 21:15 (one week ago)
Reading Disturbing the Universe: Power and Repression in Adolescent Literature by Roberta Seelinger Trites as teaching prep. A landmark text in the study of YA fiction (it came out in 2000), I'd only read excerpts up until now.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 19 September 2025 00:38 (one week ago)
that sounds fascinating, will have to see if my uni library has it
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 19 September 2025 01:32 (one week ago)
I've been away from internet access camping for the past two weeks or so. In that time I read a couple of slim Simenon novels, one with and one without Maigret.
I also read One Man's West, David Lavender, written just after WWII regarding the author's experiences before the war, both as a hard rock miner in a Colorado gold mine located at 9000 ft in mountains that were only accessible by mule, and working as a cowboy in vast and equally roadless rangeland in southwestern Colorado.
The most striking thing was his descriptions of workdays that were frequently sixteen or more hours doing hard labor at dirty, highly dangerous work, how frequently workers were injured or killed, how totally unsafe and unregulated it all was, and nothing remotely like worker's compensation for things like loss of fingers, broken bones, or work-caused disability. All this was simply taken as a given. The working class training/culture of the cowboys and miners took it as a badge of honor to continue working no matter what without complaint -- for $30 a month and food. The author accepts that this is just how men acted, or was anything but admirable displays of fortitude and will.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 September 2025 01:54 (one week ago)
have you read “Roaring Camp: The Social World of the California Gold Rush,” Aimless? you might find it fascinating, i certainly did, and the book you just described reminded me of it.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 19 September 2025 02:59 (one week ago)
I haven't run across it, but it sounds interesting.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 September 2025 04:31 (one week ago)
Worth looking into!
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Friday, 19 September 2025 11:58 (one week ago)
Currently reading "Tetrasomy Two" by Oscar Rossiter. It's a Frederik Pohl selection Bantam paperback that I picked up for a few bucks at a used bookstore. So far the story is as bonkers as I had hoped.
― o. nate, Friday, 19 September 2025 17:10 (one week ago)
I just finished reading the NYRB paperback version of Thomas Tryon's "The Other." It inspired the Robert Milligan movie, and sold 3.5 million copies in 1971. It was a bestseller for half the year.
Somehow, I didn't know it existed.
It was such an unpleasant read. I hated it, and also I am quite glad I read it. It is about twin brothers, Niles and Holland Perry, who live on a decaying, ghormengasty farm in (fictional) Pequot Landing, Connecticut. Increasingly grisly, gruesome, weird deaths happen all around them. Mostly to members of their family. Niles begins to realize his brother is not innocent in these deaths. Realism at the beginning gives way to a grand guignol by the end, but the narrative is still closely concerned only with the psychological growth/development of its main character, Niles. Is it about haunting? Maybe, maybe not. Is it about the murders? Sorta. Obsession, loyalty, queerness? Maybe a bit, incidentally, but it doesn't seem committed to any of these ideas. It lavishes many words on the boys' Russian ancestry, on a game that may be slightly supernatural, but that has zero bearing on anything.
It is written in three sections, and between each of the three sections is a direct address by an acerbic, catty, fortyish narrator who is, incidentally, preoccupied by shapes on the ceiling of the room in which they are writing. It is generally unclear if this person is the author, or if they are related directly to the story, but they share plenty of strong, opinions about everybody in it. At times, this voice contradicts or undermines what happens in the main narrative.
The prose is self-consciously literary, "pretty," and builds out a rich and well-considered setting (ugly, inbred, of unpleasant people) who are ... not important to the story? While Niles/Holland are running around their creepy New England murder farm, there are digressions into card magic, angels, fairy tales, costumes, disability, deformity, alcoholism, grandfather clocks, and childbirth.
Anybody else?
― the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 00:58 (six days ago)
i want to read it now
― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 02:47 (six days ago)
at least it sounds like Tryon had a fun time writing it
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 03:23 (six days ago)
I almost bought it a few months ago.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:20 (six days ago)
Always been semi interested in Tryon as an actor turned writer, and a later novella of his forms the basis of Wilder's Fedora, but never actually got round to reading one of his novs .
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 09:25 (six days ago)
I've had Night of the Moonbow sitting on my shelf unread for years. May have to make time for it now.
― cryptosicko, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:42 (six days ago)
Am reading or about to finish:
Penelope Mortimer The Pumpkin EaterNicholas Boggs - Baldwin: A Love StoryJohn M. Barry - The Great Influenza
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 11:46 (six days ago)
It was such an unpleasant read.
Sounds like a parody of Ada.
― alimosina, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 13:45 (six days ago)
soda, have you seen Milligan's adaptation of The Other? I haven't read the book, but its narration, as you decribe it, is brilliantly compressed into sunlit horror: syrupy lighting of the fields etc. made me think it was gonna be Little House On The Prairie, but it's so not, so sick---and yes, all psychological, as it keeps being so purty. Milligan, having directed To Kill A Mockingbird, had the Hollywood clout, and the gift, as well as the skill, to continue working with nonprofessional child actors, and did great with the twins---plus, it's the only movie performance I've ever seen by Uta Hagen, a legendary acting teacher, also a well-documented one, as author of the very useful Respect For Acting.
― dow, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 22:59 (six days ago)
Hi dow!
I saw the movie decades ago, on a shitty taped-off-TV VHS when it was OOP, and I can't remember any of it except Uta Hagen in a blue nightgown. (I only know her from Respect for Acting, too, and a bit part in a New Twilight Zone episode). In my head, the movie has gotten all tangled with Io non ho paura/I'm Not Scared (2003).
I might look the movie up. I'm a bit worried it won't convey the dread and dankness of the book. But syrupy and sun-drenched sounds appealing.
Recently I've been wondering about why literary horror acts so strangely on me at middle-age. It's grown much less effective at scaring me, and more effective at unsettling me, irritating me. I'm finding that creatures, gore and spectacle are cathartic, predictable, and come at me as a relief, like a punchline after a long comedic setup. The violence or shock of the death-act itself is frequently comforting. Anyway, death on the page is just death on the page, an aesthetic effect. And lately, it's like I can see the wires and strings holding up these special effects.
But unresolved horrors, open narrative brackets, weird thought patterns, deviance and strangeness that can't be reduced to known types (like the boys in The Other) really stick with me. I often find this in translated texts, or old/forgotten texts. It's like I've grown callused to the horror devices in my own environment, and need to find things outside to out-weird my defenses. Maybe it's growing harder for me to find the uncanny...
I'm sure other people have deeper, more coherent thoughts on this, but I wonder if part of the diminishing of my fear is that my fear of real death has diminished and the "loan" of anxiety that loads of media borrows from that internal anxiety is ... no longer so persuasive. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 23:48 (six days ago)
John M. Barry - The Great Influenza
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 23, 2025 7:46 AM (twelve hours ago)
This is in my pile. Worth the read?
― the notorious r.e.m. (soda), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 23:50 (six days ago)
ohhhh yes
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 23:50 (six days ago)
might trigger you if our pandemic affected you.
What struck me: I knew already about the Wilson administration's crackdown on speech and unyielding commitment to propaganda to win the war; but the book makes clear how this tunnel vision led to a complete -- no minced words -- wiping out of the pandemic as it was killing thousands of people a day in the United States. A grim, shall we say, harbinger.
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 23:52 (six days ago)
September was
The Mabinogion, which was mostly about pigsThe Tain, which was mostly about cattleThe Prose Edda, which was mostly about wolves
the introductions for the first two both mentioned the other and Mort D'Arthur. both also very fond of lists of unpronounceable names* that sometimes went on for four pages. and both mentioned the same boardgame which nobody knows the rules for anymore, gwyddbwyll / fidchell
the prose edda tried to claim that Thor was a descendant of Priam of Troy. also mentioned jesus in the introduction and ended up talking about Danish history and the Ring cycle. seemed very mixed up. or i am. this is probably only for people who liked the Crossley-Holland and wanted to know more.
* unpronounceable for me. Ysbaddaden, Efrawg, Medb etc. it didn't help that the guide to names in the front used a character that my ereader didn't support.
― koogs, Sunday, 28 September 2025 19:18 (yesterday)
I'm currently reading a collection of Dashiell Hammet's short stories, edited by Lillian Hellman, called The Big Knockover. It also includes an informal, rather affecting memoir of Hammet written by Hellman. The stories are uneven with some excellent and others pulpy, but the writing is consistently high level: crisp, direct and transparent. This collection is a companion to a second Hellman-edited collection I read last year and enjoyed, called The Continental Op.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 28 September 2025 19:49 (yesterday)
Re-reading Anne of Green Gables, which I'm teaching this week.
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 28 September 2025 20:13 (yesterday)