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Fred (Fred), Saturday, 17 July 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov, and enjoying it very much. I guess I'll have to read it twice atleast to truly appreciate it.
I'm also reading Five people you meet in heaven by Mitch Albom and don't like it at all so I'm giving it a pause.
Also there's Selections from the complete works of Swami Vivekananda, it's a big book but very inspiring.

Fred (Fred), Saturday, 17 July 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm about 50 pages into Lee's Native Speaker, which I'm enjoying (though I could do without the spy stuff, so far). And I'm also reading a story or two a day from Esquire Magazine's Big Book of Fiction. I started Graves's I, Claudius a few days ago, but I think I may have put that down for a while...

David Elinsky (David Elinsky), Saturday, 17 July 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Orwell's collected essays vol 1 (which obviously isn't as good as the later volumes), and the Paston letters (15th C. letters between members of an English family).

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 17 July 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i just finished gwendoline riley's cold water. i think i need to do a thread on her. today i'm going to sit in the park and finish up greenwood's love on the dole. it looks like nice outdoor reading weather.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 17 July 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

chris, the paston book sounds interesting, how did you found about that? and is it interesting?

erik, Saturday, 17 July 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

After watching the NOVA special, I went out and borrowed "Galileo's Daughter."

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Saturday, 17 July 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still reading the same bloody book: The Half-Brother by Lars Saabye Christensen. It's a good book, but I am now at the stage where I wish the damn thing would end so I can read something new.

I hate that stage.

BTW, it's good to see you all.

SRH (Skrik), Saturday, 17 July 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The Paston book does seem interesting. I just saw it at the library and grabbed it. Lots of random chatter, in the first few letters (all I've read) about land disputes (which are kinda boring) and requests to purchase almonds and cloth for making winter dress (which is interesting). The modernized spelling creates this interesting variety of 15th C. English that never actually existed, which is also weird.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 17 July 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I've started Asimov's Mysteries, a collection of 13 sci-fi mysteries by Isaac Asimov.

Fred (Fred), Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Presently 'The Dark Room' by R.K. Narayan, an old favourite of mine.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

What a Carve Up by Jonathan Coe. Halfway through and enjoying it. A Douglas Adams sense of humour.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 July 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember reading Bachelor of Arts by RK Narayan, it was a very light novel and I liked it. How is The Dark Room? Which Narayan books would you recommend?

Fred (Fred), Monday, 19 July 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading the dreaded Crimson Petal and the White which I borrowed from my mum. Extremely annoying style of narration but getting used to it as I get more into the story. I bought three second-hand Robert B Parker books on Friday and read them all over the weekend :/

Archel (Archel), Monday, 19 July 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Perdido Street Station by China Mieville
Phoenix: Dawn by Osamu Tezuka

Haven't reached the point where I can't put down Perdido Street Station, but I'll keep at it be/c so many people have said it's the best book they've ever read. I guess that's just a matter of opinion.

I don't usually read manga, but Phoenix has been one of the most interesting and different graphic novels I've ever read. I know I'm going to get addicted to the whole series.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 19 July 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

finished 'derek bailey and the story of free improvisation' by ben watson, also 'unsung heroes' by nick tosches.
'40 stories' d. barthelme
and yes, still 'empire' by hardt and negri

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 July 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Vermont Girl, you are a woman of taste! Mieville is great, and the Phoenix series is about as good as comics have ever got (there's a thread on ILC, I believe) - the latest, fourth volume is the best yet.

I really like all of Narayan's Malgudi novels and stories. They're all equally light, really, so if you enjoyed one you'll enjoy the others as much. I also read one travel journal by him, in which I really didn't like him at all.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 19 July 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I am also theoretically reading A Brief Stay With the Living by Marie Darrieussecq but it's just not happening. It's not you Marie, it's me.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 19 July 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Like Vermont Girl, I have been reading comics. I finished the first two volumes of Fables, the first vol. of Y: The Last Man, and Age of Bronze: A Thousand Ships. They were all fantastic, and deserved all the praise I have been hearing. Unfortunately I am broke (cursed car repairs) and cannot purchase, and must wait for the library to get the next ones in. Now reading "The Beauty Supply District."

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

For those who enjoy comics, my current reccommendation is Sleeper by Ed Brubaker. You won't regret it. For those who have never read comics and/or aren't interested in them, I reccommend Sleeper. Seriously, it's that good.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Trying to finish Junot Diaz's Drown, but I mentioned how good it was to my boyfriend and he took it to work today? But I am also reading The Late George Apley by John Marquand, which is also good.

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Monday, 19 July 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

brideshead revisited, selections from 'a choice of kipling's prose', and cien anos de soledad.

j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Monday, 19 July 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

What a coincidence! I'm reading "Brideshead Revisited" too. The only other Waugh I've read is "Put Out More Flags" which is also good, but I'm feeling "BR" more.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

'London Orbital' by Iain Sinclair - took me a while to get into it but now *really* enjoying it. Think it helps that I've always lived within the M25 so I know all the places he writes about.

Mog, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeats: REVERIES

cos I have finished RING ROAD, at last.

+ still reading MACNEICE

the ringfox, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished: The Catcher In The Rye. I can't see what all the fuss is about. Maybe I'm too long past my teens to empathise with the narrator.

Currently reading: "Lucky You" by Carl Hiaasen. Hiaasen's usual bunch of corrupt officials, scam artists, social misfits and cynical journalists a Florida crime/environment caper. This is my 5th or 6th Hiaasen novel and they are getting a bit samey but good fun nonetheless.

Next up: Lance Armstrong's autobiography "It's Not About The Bike" which a colleague assures me is a good read. I have a feeling I won't see it through, I find it hard to relate to a man who takes his bike on his honeymoon.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you seen a photo of his wife?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

She's not bad at all. Could be worse.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't Armstrong with Sheryl Crow now?
Anyway, I'm reading 'The Big Con' by David Maurer, a book written in 1940 about confidence tricksters.
Also reading 'The Speciality of the House and other stories' by Stanley Ellin. I thought he was mentioned on another thread, but it turned out that was Stanley Elkin. My Stanley used to get his stories published in Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine, and I love all that stuff.

Joe Kay (feethurt), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps you should try reading Catcher in the Rye again after a year or so.

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is where I admit I'm just getting around to Kavalier and Clay by Chabon. And yes, it's as good as everyone said, and yes, now I feel stupid for taking so long to read it. It's just so difficult to read a book when the hype is neverending.

Also reading This is America?: Lawrence, Kansas in the 1960's because I'm from Kansas and it sparked my interest at the used bookstore. Pretty good thus far, but I'm not entirely sure it would entertain anyone not from Kansas. Maybe it gets more universal later on.

Jessa (Jessa), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

That reminds me, I'm curious to read that What's Wrong with Kansas? book that just came out from Thomas Frank, the Baffler guy. He was on Charlie Rose the other night making quite persuasive noises about his "Let the Left be the Left again" theme.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Or should I say "Let the Democrats be Democrats again" theme. I suppose the Left has always been the Left.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm slowly reading Dario Fo's Morte accidentale di un anarchico as my first non-easy reader in Italian; reading Voltaire's L'Ingenu and wondering why the hell I never read it before, it's delish; and I'm rereading Asimov's I, Robot and Foundation in anticipation of the I, Robot movie. I wonder what on earth they're going to do with the Robbie the Robot character? That movie needs a thread when it comes out...

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what Asimov would have made of Will Smith?

Finished Jonathan Coe's, What a Carve Up. I'd give it 9/10 on the Mikey G scale.

Now finishing Hiram Bingham's Peruvian journals and then onto The Travels of Marco Polo.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

From the ads I've seen, the movie I, Robot seems to bear little resemblance to the Asimov stories.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

That movie needs a thread when it comes out...

Didn't this movie open last weekend?

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, I better read fast...

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to the used book store this past weekend because I was out of things to read but I couldn't decide what to get so I ended up with "The Flamingo's Smile," an '85 collection of Stephen Jay Gould essays (which is fantastic and I can feel my brane growing) and "The Names" by Don DeLillo, which I probably read in high school but I can't remember for sure, and which I'll read next.

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I read a short history of the Roman Empire last night / this morning. My knowledge of the chronology of Roman emporers was very shaky to say the least. Now it is just shaky.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 22 July 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

'mad pride', its a collection of essays on madness, etc.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 July 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

mad pride sounds interesting.

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 22 July 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom lent me Janet Evanovich # 10, which was highly entertaining as usual, then I read some more comics including something Spiderman and "It's a Bird," which is very good but overhyped. The art is absolutely beautiful, though. I'm about to begin The Fortress of Solitude. Mikey, you're ahead of me, as I must confess that most of my history of Rome comes from the Claudius books and TV series.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading John D'Agata's 'Halls of Fame' - a luckybag of journalism, poetry, speculation and fiction - but it's not really cohering for me at the moment.

Just finished 'Preston Falls' by David Gates (sought out because Gates writes a v OTM intro to the new classics edition of DB's '60 Stories') and it wasn't what I expected at all - it's a very thorough, Richard Fordy study of a relationship falling apart - but I enjoyed it almost despite myself.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on Peter Hoeg's The Woman & The Ape now. Having read Smilla, I expect it to turn out to be an alien ape.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The REM biography 'Fiction' by David Buckley. It reminded me that music is best listened to rather than written about. "Peter Buck dropped out of university, but he had an education in sound." Ha ha.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 23 July 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading 'true tales of american life' edited by Pauol Auster, and I'm really enjoying it. It's perfect tube reading, cos it's lots of little stories that are three pages max. There are sweet stories, amusing ones, well written ones, something for everyone.

Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 23 July 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim" --David Sedaris

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Friday, 23 July 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin the first book in the Song of Ice and Fire series.
Also on the side I've been looking through this book "Social Culture" I found at a garage sale that was printed in 1902 about proper etiquette.

Jaime-Lynn (nynaeve), Saturday, 24 July 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

the swimming pool library by allan hollinghurst + a lonely planet edtion on istanbul, the city i'll be visiting next week.

erik, Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh, I LOVE Istanbul - best holiday destination I've been to. Don't miss the old Roman cistern near Hagia Sophia!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Cesare Pavese - "Tra donne sole" - totally different from what I've just finished to read: Salman Rushdie "Fury"

Alina (Alinette), Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Alina! Seems like you are a new member. I've half read Salman's Rushdie's Satanic Verses, I kinda liked it but left it cuz I couldn't get the allegory. How was Fury?

Fred (Fred), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

oops

Fred (Fred), Sunday, 25 July 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I am reading 'Mating' by Norman Rush. It's like Hemingway rewritten by a hardboiled Jane Austen. Or vice versa.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 July 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought a first edition of The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul (Douglas Adams) from a Saturday market stall. For the bargain price of £3. This was due to:

i) The stall owner had forgotten to write a price on the cover
ii) The can of Stella in his left hand
iii) The joint in his right hand.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I finished the Lance Armstrong book. Frankly I'm amazed that such a fantastic story could be so uninspiringly told.

Currently on "From The Corner Of His Eye" by Dean Koontz. He's a bit hit and miss but so far this seems like one of the better ones.

Perhaps you should try reading Catcher in the Rye again after a year or so.-- Fred
Someone once said that to me about Gormenghast and I've been wary ever since.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

In my view Satanic Verses is one of Rushdie's weakest - it's better than his appalling rock novel, or his debut SF one, but Fury is much better, and Midnight's Children better still.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got Midnight's Children with me but never read it past the first two pages. I guess I will someday, when the mood is just right.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ha martin, you're the second person this week who recommends to me the cistern "near the HS"!

I think the swimmng pool library is only interesting for the firbank references. (I'm almost finished the book - nantwich prison life) the natwick diaries episodes remind me a bit of the orton/kennth williams ones and are also "interesting". but most of the characters in the book are boring, arrogant and hard-to-like or even get interested in (esp. william beckwith). the exception being perhaps the roops kid, with his child-like interest in homosexual life.

erik, Monday, 26 July 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

still reading MACNEICE

the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

lucky you.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i stalled with love on the dole. it's a bit relentless. i've jumped over to the weather in the streets, by rosamond lehmann. you might want to investigate her, cozen.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

that's the woman. I was in the book store today (you must travel 15 miles to reach a book store, where I'm now living) and was looking for the book about the dust (??) you mentioned on the carson thread. I'm on it.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could read macniece, in a book.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

dusty answer. yes, her debut. the weather in the streets is the second in a trilogy, of which invitation to the waltz is the first. more and more, i'm noticing some common ground with rhys.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm currently reading 'quartet' by jean rhys, august's sight & sound, and the 'appointments' section of the glasgow herald.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Solis by A.A. Attanasio. I have liked him (?) in the past, but some of the opening is very over-written, and hard work. It's starting to get easier.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished Asimov's Mysteries.
Started The man with two left feet by PG Wodehouse and Night Screams: 22 Stories of Terror.

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading George R.R. Martin's A game of thrones, and to my surprise it's actually quite entertaining. I've had a knee-jerk reaction towards fantasy for years and years, but this is thankfully not the spell-casting monster-mash that I expect of this sort of thing. Heck, for the most part, this might as well have been part of Jan Guillou's viking trilogy.
This has been my summer of science fiction, after a break due to the negative feeling that "Snowcrash" left with me last year.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Having a crack at War and Peace. A co-worker mentioned it, and all of her love for Prince Andrey. I'm not too far in, and busily making family trees.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

That's one of my bug-bears. Why can't books print a family tree in the front?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I know. I like family trees, but I have encountered ones that give too much away (she married Mr. X instead of Mr. Y!, etc.) Perhaps a cast of characters would be nice?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I was reading The Magic Moutain but I've been lazy as of late. I'm 200 or so pages from completion but I fear I'll give it up since pretty soon I'm going to have a lot of work to do.

theodore fogelsanger (herbert hebert), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

'interview with a vampire' by anne rice.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Country of Origin," "The Rule of Four," "Amazonia"

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking of reading The Rule of Four sometime in the near future.

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 29 July 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I read it recently, it wish-washed over me.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 July 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, no I didn't! I read the Sign of the Four. I am such a dolt.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 July 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

:-p

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

You can read MacNeice, in a book.

I have the book.

Reading: Behan, BORSTAL BOY; Collins, STILL SUITABLE FOR MINERS.

And lots of LRB lately.

the bellefox, Sunday, 1 August 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Gosh - ilb is quiet as a library mouse.

the pomefox, Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i just started where i was from, by joan didion. this has led me to go back to a few essays in slouching towards bethlehem. sometimes i forget how amazing she can be.

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 1 August 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

'Q' by Luther Blissett. Derring do and doctrinal theology set during the Reformation. Yay!

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 1 August 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

where is my copy of 'slouching towards bethlehem'?

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

gk chesterton - napoleon of notting hill (finished, fantastic, superior to man who was thursday imo)
mavis gallant - paris stories (meh so far, but i am graceless of late)
david toop - haunted weather (i only got it cos i hated steven poole's rvw of it SO BAD but i gave up anyway, boring anechoic suck)
es magazine, as per
ronald firbank - valmouth
store detective's notebook i found at work

("17:25 four black children started [illegible] items from the fruits and veg but i went there and drove them out of store then they were really in for chocolates and other sweets")

(pages and pages, a full book, i have misrepresented the relentless mundaneness here tho) similar to:

pessoa - book of disquiet, (still!) intermittently when i'm out. ho-hum

prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 1 August 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

mavis gallant - paris stories (meh so far, but i am graceless of late)

i wanted to like this much more than i actually did.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 2 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been on holiday for a week and doing a lot of reading on Brighton beach etc. I finished Ring Road and The Curious Incident... amongst others, and I am still in the middle of Amrita by Banana Yoshimoto and a random lad lit type book which seems to be mainly about trousers, called Strides.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

mad pride sounds interesting.
-- Fred (fred.99854...), July 22nd, 2004.

Its 20 odd essays, written mostly by people who have suffered from mental illness at one time or another, its not very cohesive as a whole but definetely worth a read.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and right now its richard meltzer 'the aesthetics of rock' -- I kind of love it even though its hurting my eyes.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! I finished reading a book for the first time in a month! There's nothing like deciding to move house and trying to decide whether or not to change jobs to really put a dent in your reading time.

The book was Mary Renault's Fire From Heaven, about Alexander the Great. Stirring stuff, but I'm enjoying the second book in the series, The Persian Boy a lot more. It doesn't make the same assumptions about a person's classical education. In that it doesn't assume that a person has one, when a person may very well not. To me, Argos is a place where tiny pens live, and Troy is the counsellor on the starship Enterprise.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh, I finished the book I was reading, Making History by Stephen Fry, this morning and forgot to bring something else to read so I didn't have anything at lunch. I think next up is Laughter in the Dark, yet another Nabokov, which I bought at the used book store for like $2.

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Jennifer Government now. I haven't got any comment to make yet though.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'The Rings of Saturn' by WG Sebald. Man walks around Suffolk coast and this reminds him of stuff. It's a bit like 'Three Men and a Boat' rewritten by the Borges of 'A Universal History of Infamy'

Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Still reading War and Peace. Will be for the rest of the summer, I predict. I am being stalled by the war bits, as forewarned.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Keep up the good work, Jocelyn. You should have got someone to sponsor you.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading "The Hithchiker's Guide to the Galaxy Trylogy" in 4 volumes and grinning my head off through the summer heat.
I needed it!

misshajim (strand), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I've started reading Pierre Loti's Azerbiye, his autobiographical novel abouut his love for a Turkish woman he met in Istanboul.

Pierre Lotti was a 19th c. French novelist, very popular in his days. (all novels in popular romantic oriental-ism) I find it hardly readable now, it could be a camp novel if you're in the right mood (which probably means it's just bad ;-)

Lotti himself was so taken when his Turkish maitresse began to have other affairs (according to Cocteau maitresse shoud be read as male lover) that he escaped in heavy decadent orientalism in his home in Paris. I have bought a postcard of him in his harem room at home, wearing complete Turkish costume, all very Huysmans/Des Essientes.

I bought his novel (plus an essay on his visit to Istanboul, which is probalby more readable) last week while visting Istanboul myself (at the Pierre Loti Cafe!!)

erik, Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Amazonia.com - interesting read from the author, who was hired to write blurbs about the books for sale through Amazon.com during its salad days.

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished "The Jane Austen Book Club". Still thinking, but on the whole I would recommend it. It reads more like a series of connected short stories than a novel. Also reading "Going Nucular: Language, Politics, and Culture in Controversial Times". It's a collection of essays that mostly aired on Fresh Air.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading a Harlan Ellison short story collection titled "Troublemakers", which got me out of a wee reader's block. "Jeffty Is Five" is probably the finest short story I've read since I discovered Borges last year.
Other than that, I've looked briefly at Delilo's The Body Artist and Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, which I intend to read tomorrow (the latter being an English translation by Maxwell Staniforth)

A nice bonus with the Aurelius is that my father bought it in the mid-60s or so, when he was only a few years older than I am now, and the book's full of underlined passages, margin-notes etc.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 7 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to give 'aesthetics...' far more time than I have at the moment so I bought eddie prevost's new bk which basically seems to boil down to 'if you don't choose to make AMM music then there's something WRONG!!!' except it doesn't come across as moralising but infuriating, still.

Also AMM music is great; that is a prob the hataz must overcome.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 August 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

what should I read now?

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 8 August 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading "Way Out There in the Blue: Reagan, Star Wars, and the End of the Cold War" by Frances FitzGerald. Quite fascinating so far.

o. nate (onate), Sunday, 8 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Just started 'Billy Liar'.

Øystein, 'The Body Artist' is pants. If you are already a Delillo fan, avoid at all cost. If you aren't, skip it and go straight to 'White Noise'.

Mog, Monday, 9 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

At the weekend I sort of skim-read 'Sticks and Stones' by Jack Zipes, about children's literature. And 'The Oxford(?) Book of Sonnets'. A much less inspired collection than Don Paterson's.

Now I'm back to 'The Return of Reginald Perrin'. All good.

Oh, and 'Jennifer Government' was ok. I would have liked less thriller and more satire, and also fewer characters. But it's quite easy to see how it could all come true.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 9 August 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Mog, I've already read it by now. I didn't hate it, as I like his writing style here, but yeah, the only thing that got me through was that it was so short. Oh well.
I've read The White Noise, albeit in a Norwegian translation, which admittedly isn't the best way to read someone like him.

I have a nice library haul to go through now... First off: JG Ballard's Rushing To Paradise. This paperback cover has one wonderfully tacky cover too.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'dusty answer'.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The Most of Brendan Behan.

the finefox, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Three men in a Boat - Jerome K. Jerome

erik, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 07:36 (twenty-one years ago)

South of the Border, West of the Sun - Haruki Murakami
The Freelance Writer's Handbook: How to Make Money and Enjoy Your Life - Andrew Crofts
Literary Translation: A Practical Guide - Clifford E. Landers
Ulysses - James Joyce
Handbook for Members and Visitors 2004 - The National Trust
Under the Volcano - Malcolm Lowry
The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching - Thich Nhat Hanah

No wonder I never finish anything.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Brendan Behan, AFTER THE WAKE

the finefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Derek Jarman's Journals written in his Dungeness cottage & garden, I don' t think I'll finish it tho. Some of the childhood memeories are nice. (sexual education at school) but i don' t know what he' s talking about with all the garden flowers and seeds, my english and my knowledge of flowers is not up to that mark.

erik, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading the introduction to "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" and will decide soon whether I really want to do that to myself.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Three men in a Boat - Jerome K. Jerome " Good advice. I've been reading too much anti-Bush fare. I need to laugh.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Thursday, 12 August 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

'The Winners' by Julio Cortazar
It's a bit like Agatha Christie so far, all these characters who've won a boat cruise are being introduced, but we know strange things are going to happen

Joe Kay (feethurt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Transactional Analysis in Psychotherapy by Eric Berne.

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

rabin, you'll laugh like a cheshire cat

erik, Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished 'Billy Liar' today. Now it's a toss-up what I pluck next from the reading pile: 'Vineland' (to reread), 'Ubik', Michael Ondaatje's one about Billy The Kid, Dan Fante's 'Chump Change', Steve Erickson's 'Leap Year' or 'Something Happened'.

Mog, Thursday, 12 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The Ondaatje is superb, FWIW. And I'm reading Svevo's Senelita, also a reread of Katherine Mansfield's letters. They're some of the most superb pieces of writing I've ever encountered.

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 12 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Go for Erickson, Mog! He's fantastic!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"rabin, you'll laugh like a cheshire cat" Now, if only I could find my worn and beloved copy- three years and we still haven't unpacked all the books in the "new" house!

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Friday, 13 August 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

my copy of jerome is probably the best designed book on my shelf

http://www.bloomsbury.com/Images/Books/Batch2/014180100X.JPG

erik, Friday, 13 August 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Update: I plumped for the Ondaatje and will start it on my way home this eve.

X-post: Yes, Erickson is fantastic ('Leap Year' is the only one I haven't read of his, I think), but that's a whole other thread...

Mog, Friday, 13 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I have just read:
Gordon Legge: The Shoe
Gordon Legge: In Between Talking about the Football
Gordon Legge: I Love Me (Who do you love)?
Gordon Legge: Near Neighbours

I like Gordon Legge.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Erik, I suspect that's not so much a book as an audiobook.

It's pretty nice design, though. I tried reading it once when I was a teen. Perhaps I should try again.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, I couldn 't find a image of the book-cover on the Net but it's the same. I love that design.

and you are reading...?

erik, Sunday, 15 August 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. It's a large book, and might take a while. I was also reading the Decameron but I don't know where I put it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 15 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

maugham - cakes and ale. i got a used copy very cheaply in dublin last month, but it's a 70s paperback edition so the cover has a soft-focus (presumably) nude blond couple reclining in what appears to be post-coital bliss. it looks like a swedish "marriage manual."

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 15 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I quit jarman now

erik, Monday, 16 August 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's your book cover erik http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0140282602.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Fred (Fred), Monday, 16 August 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

what abt the sudden appearance of the penguin in the third image? haha!

erik, Monday, 16 August 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't it there all along? I haven't read the book so I don't know the if and why of the penguin in the third panel or the dog in the first.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 16 August 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, it supposed to be there. the dog is the fourth member of the boat trip, the penguin is there solely for company reasons of course, and to add to the comical effect of the story.

erik, Monday, 16 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I'll read this book in some time.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 16 August 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

you should, it's slapstick at times.

erik, Monday, 16 August 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

'Tis a winner. Then follow with Three Men on the Brummel, for example of dead horse flogging.

I'm reading a book about Brazilian football and it is boss.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 16 August 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Master & Commander by P. O'Brien, and - surprisingly enough - I like it (even if I have to skip half the nautical words)

misshajim (strand), Monday, 16 August 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading "Still Life" by A.S. Byatt (I seem to be reading the entire series, but all out of order. I read Babel Tower last year, so now I'm going backwards) on the bus, and I'm reading Richard Muir (is that spelled right?) - The Lost Villages of Britain (utterly fascinating take on what people commonly call "DMV's" even though many of them are not actually Medieval at all) at home.

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 16 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Have just finished 'Toast' by Nigel Slater. It's (of course) great when he's writing about food itself, but I was quite shocked how nasty he is about his stepmother, and how snobby. Issues there, I feel...

Archel (Archel), Monday, 16 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished a depressing biography of Peter Sellers, am currently reading and enjoying Solaris by Stanislaw Lem, and have lined up Miss Lonelyhearts/The Day of the Locust by Nathaniel West, The Eye by Nabokov, and Amnesia Moon by Jonathan Lethem to read next, though not necessarily in that order.

na (Nick A.), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember reading the first few pages of some Peters Sellers' biography, from a second-hand book dealer on the sidewalk, waiting for my gf, on a hot summer afternoon.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're a mild fan of Sellers and would like to continue being a mild fan, I would not recommend it. He was a pretty sad character, and not a particularly nice person, at least as portrayed in this particular bio.

na (Nick A.), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

miss lonelyhearts/day of the locust is one of the BEST BOOKS EVER.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OH GOOD. I knew little about it except that they sounded interesting and I knew there was a movie of the latter, so I took a chance and hopefully it will PAY OFF.

na (Nick A.), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't like the West stories at all, though I can't really remember why now.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Nick, but I guess I would like to read it someday.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Just started Iain M Banks' "Look to Windward" - still at the early 'getting used to the silly names and wondering what it's all about' phase that is a staple of the Culture novel.

Going back to Philip K Dick next and also plan to pick up a copy of Last Exit To Brooklyn, something I've been getting round to for years.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I just read Laurie Notaro's (American humorist) three books of essays. She gets funnier with each one, and writes better, but she's not pee-in-my-pants funny like Sedaris. The friend who recommended them is funnier than Notaro. Now I'm reading Joe Trippi's book about the Dean campaign.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished 'Billy The Kid' (great little book), now rereading 'Vineland'.

Mog, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

angels.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading several books:Woolf's "Three Guinea", A. Shreve "The Weight of Water". Saw the movie with Sean Penn. He was positively scrumptious. Also reading Franzen's "The Correction". It's worth all the publicity it had received.

Linda Ellis, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Albert Hourani's 'A History of the Arab Peoples'. Interesting but heavy. Loads of pages.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

My reading's a bit of a mess these days, some short stories, essays etc for the most part, plus a few non-fiction books at rather uneven paces.

Anyways, I'm currently reading these novels:
Sylvia Plath's "The Bell Jar"
Eugene Zamiatin's "We"

Next up are Sinclar Lewis' Babbitt and Horace Walpole's The Castle Of Otranto.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi-I lurk here regularly, don't post too much, but just finished All the King's Men by Robert Penn Warren--the narrator, Jack Burden, reminds me of a Southern Philip Marlowe. Have started The Sound and the Fury--wow, what a powerhouse of a book.

GailS, Friday, 20 August 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been thinking of starting sound and the fury or as I lay dying, but couldn't decide which one.

Fred (Fred), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I finished with Behan.

He didn't write as much as you might think.

the finefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred-if you decide to go with S&F, let us know what you think of it. It's the first Faulkner I've ever attempted, so I don't have any advice to offer re: As I Lay Dying.

GailS, Friday, 20 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That came off sounding like the royal "we," didn't it? Amending to say, Let me know if you end up reading the Sound and the Fury.

GailS, Friday, 20 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Alright Gail, if I start S&F I'll let you know.

Fred (Fred), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It is funny to think of R.P. Warren writing a novel.

Such a poet.

Such a critic.

Such a 'poet-critic'?

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I stumbled into a library sale and got all the books I could carry for a dollar! I can hardly walk now, but it was worth it. I began with Edith Wharton's Custom of the Country and maybe this makes me a sicko but I'm enjoying it in a very melancholy way.

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only read one Faulkner novel so far, and that was The Sound And The Fury just a few months ago. To be honest, I struggled a bit with it a first, mainly because I was too thick to quite figure out the seeming mess that first section is. I loved how the novel really opened up more and more throughout, and I'm sure a lot of new connections will be made on a re-read. I need to explore Faulkner more first, though... The library has "Absolom! Absolom!" as well, which looks like it's related (apparently Quentin of S&F's second section is one of the main protagonists)

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

custom of the country is terrific. i think it's her most outwardly nasty book, aside from twilight sleep which is explicitly satirical.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I just reread Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? for the first time in 10 years. Right now I'm reading David Foster Wallace The Broom of the System.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 21 August 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred, if you've not read Faulkner before As I Lay Dying is much the easier way in. The Sound And The Fury is, for me, his best, but it's not an easy book.

I don't remember it being related to Absalom, Absalom, but I may be forgetting.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 August 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I was inclined towards As I Lay Dying as it is shorter than S&F, and now that you tell me that it's easier too, I guess that's what I'll read next.

Fred (Fred), Saturday, 21 August 2004 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not so much reading as browsing through it, "Schott's Food and Drink Miscellany"...

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Jarhead by Anthony Swofford and Moby Dick by one Herman Melville. AaronHz, get ready for Vlad the Impaler

comme personne (common_person), Saturday, 21 August 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The Heart is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers (again) and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Alan Moore & Kevin O'Neill.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

E by Matt Beaumont. Like Tolstoy but with different words.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I am binge-reading Shena Mackay.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Louisiana Power & Light - quite entertaining, though also quite "southernish" (as a warning for those here who don't care for that genre/style/whatever in the world you want to call it).

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

so i am glad - a.l. kennedy

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished the Nathaneal West novels (Miss Lonelyhearts & The Day of the Locust) and was thoroughly depressed.

n.a. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

day of the locust is a real downer, but miss lonelyhearts i find absolutely SOULCRUSHING.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

In the past month:

At Swim-Two-Birds, Flann O'Brien. This was a reread, as it had been over a decade. It's an uneven book, but in part that is because it has many pages of flabbergasting genius that unavoidably makes the less-inspired stuff look more ordinary. There is no plot. It simply leaves off writing more.

Three Men in a Boat, Jerome K. Jerome. Obviously, I am not alone in reading this one this summer. Another one of those books where the digressions are everything. A bit of lace, but fine lace.

Touching the Void, Joe Simpson. Now a major motion picture. A classic of the "I survived my personal hell!" genre, and much better written than most.

Company of Adventurers, Peter Newman. This bills itself as "a history of the Hudson's Bay Company." In truth, it is a poorly-organized set of anecdotes, snippets and brief biographies that share the Hudson's Bay Company as a unifying thread. The author knows how to a tell a story, provided the story is 10 pages long. As for the HBC, he develops no theme, has few ideas and nothing much to say. Some ripping yarns, though.

The Dalkey Archive, Flann O'Brien. Another reread. It confirmed my recollection that this is the weakest of O'Brien's books. He recycles some of the good bits from The Third Policeman, but in a less interesting vehicle. The lack of plot, which usually is no impediment in O'Brien's books, hobbles this one, because the quality of brilliance isn't as dazzling as in his earlier stuff.

Aimless The Unlogged, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure 'so I am glad' isn't a downer, have you read it yet martin?

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Not yet, no. Been bogged down in Infinite Jest for a while now - besides the amount of reading that represents, I've actually been doing even less reading that usual in the last several weeks.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

But having read two of her books, I suspect she is rarely a bright and cheery writer.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's, um, bittersweet or, even more um, happysad. definitely moreso than her other novels. of course, it is the most magical thing she has ever written. I strongly recommend her novella / essay 'on bullfighting' (I think it's quite hard to get hold of though.)

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

How does Infinite Jest compare to BOTS, which I am reading right now?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I think IJ is a far stronger novel, though obviously I've not finished it yet. It's full of good things, though I do wonder if he has a lot more to say in the rest of it, whether there will be a plot worth mentioning, whether it will end in satisfactory fashion - BOTS does rather just fling everything together then stop.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

in terms of bio, BOTS was written while he was still an undergrad (!), while IJ came almost a decade and a couple of collections of short stories later. structure-wise, IJ is obv. much longer and has the endnotes thing going on, which I don't remember in BOTS; while neither follows a simple narrative timeline, I felt I better understood IJ when I finished. I intend to read both of them again, BOTS because I was dissatisfied with my understanding of it when I finished, IJ because I thoroughly enjoyed it the first time through and would like to investigate some theories.

comme personne (common_person), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading Soft by Rupert Thomson. For book club on Friday.

It's surprisingly good, like Sean Wright Phillips.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Garrison Keillor's "Homegrown Democrat."

"Dante said that the hottest place in hell is reserved for those who in time of crisis remain neutral... and we are passionate. This is a year for passion."

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

American Taboo by Weiss. I think that's the writer's name. I've been on a serious nonfiction kick, so I'm also supplementing this book with The Man Who Ate Everything.

Jessa (Jessa), Sunday, 29 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I finished volumes 1 and 2 of POWERS (comic) and the HUGE 1300 page one volume edition of BONE. Bone was so so so so so good. Starts off Disney-ish but gets progressively darker.

Now I'm reading volume two of Osamu Tezuka's Phoenix series: A Tale of the Future. I loved the first, so this one shouldn't disappoint.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Started reading Richard Fariña's Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me this weekend.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Just started Sanctuary by Faulkner.

GailS, Monday, 30 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The Milagro Beanfield War by John Nichols.

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Factory of Light - Michael Jacobs. That followed 'Scoring - an Expert's Guide' by Frank McAvennie (which was wank).

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Perfume: The Story of a Murderer.

[sniff, sniff sniff] So far, this book has the most amazing ability to make you recall scents. There was a passage about fireworks and I swear that I could suddenly smell a match that had just been struck. So weird...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading The Godfather right now, having sort of given up on The New Life. I just can't care about what's happening or who it's happening to, for some reason.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Perfume is great. There was a Suskind thread somewhere, don't recall if it was on ILE or ILB.

I just finished White Teeth by Zadie Smith this morning, and fortunately remembered to bring my next book, Strong Opinions by V. Nabokov (a collection of essays and interviews) to read at lunch.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been on a losing streak. The stuff I've been reading hasn't been floating my boat at all. I finally read Dawn Powell's Turn, Magic Wheel and it took me forever to finish it. There are rabid Powell fanatics out there, and her descriptive abilities are top-notch, but this one seemed kinda limp to me. Not really all that scathing or fierce (which is how her fans describe her best stuff). I will try another one someday though.
Then I read The Wishbones by Tom Perrotta cuz I kinda enjoyed his book Little Children but it was pretty dud too. It would be a good book for people who felt that High Fidelity was a little too challenging.
And now I'm reading Ann Packer's The Dive From Clausen's Pier and I'm not getting into it. Maybe it's me. I am learning a little bit about Madison Wisconsin though! So all is not lost. (It's okay actually, I just feel like I've read it before by better writers. Or better storytellers. or something.)
I'm gonna set my sights higher for the next book I read. Life is short and all that.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and I am also reading "When Elephants Dance," by Tess Uriza Holthe, given to me last week by my son, who is a wizard at choosing excellent books. I am on chapter three, and really "getting into it"--but it had me from the first page. It's her first book, about the Philippines during WWII, but it is so beautifully written, it "shimmers."

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading The Godfather right now, having sort of given up on The New Life. I just can't care about what's happening or who it's happening to, for some reason.

Sorry you've given up on The New Life, Archel, it's probably my favourite recently written novel. But even I'll admit that Pamuk's style of writing can sometimes be almost the opposite of page-turning. It's very dense, there's too many ideas, events, twists and turns on evry page.

One thing I would say is that far more of the loose ends and strange occurences in the middle section of the book are tied up and explained by the end than I expected. You have to trust Pamuk even when he just seems to be being weird for the sake of it.

But a lot of the pleasure I got from the book was the sense of smalltown Turkey, this huge land I knew next to nothing about.

Joe Kay (feethurt), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

filth, irvine welsh. I can't tell if it's good or terrible. I don't know if I like it or hate it.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't too trilled by The Dive from Clausen's Pier. If anything, the beginning put me off. I remember the writing was like, "He jumped. Just jumped off the pier. And I was alone. Completely alone. I didn't know what to think... being so alone. I repeat everything I write. Repeat it a few times so that the reader knows how important it is... How very important."

But, I kept at it and it was a good story. Sad, though. Ann Packer's writing reminds me a lot of Ann Patchett's.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

it does remind me a little of jane hamilton a bit. she is compared to her on the back of the book. i kinda liked A Map Of The World. Also sad and all that.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Man Who Ate Everything. " I ordered this and the sequel from Powells (Vintage Sale!) Just finished "Shakespeare's Trollop" a light little mystery from Charlaine Harris. it was good enough that I'll seek out the rest of the series.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Jacobs - The Factory of Light (A travel / memoir about a village in Andalusia).

I also found a first edition (1971) of Moominvalley in November in a small Edinburgh bookshop for a grand total of £6. I have been celebrating by laying with ladies of ill-repute.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well Joe, I might persevere with Pamuk then (and I did like reading about Turkey, somewhere I know next to nothing about). But not until I've finished with The Godfather, capisce? ;)

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Just when you thought you were out, I dragged you right back in again.

Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Perfume: The Story of a Murderer" - after your description, VG, I've gone and put it on my TBR list. The prior (and waiting) 149 titles didn't put me off at all.

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I am still reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 2 September 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's slow reading, but good.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 2 September 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

So, I just finished Underworld. I'm probably going to read some short stories now, to cleanse the palate, I guess. I've started Margaret Atwood's "Bluebeard's Egg", and I've got a couple 70's sci-fi collections around too, stolen from my old high school's bookroom. I've got three boxes of Star Trek novels from when I was 14 sitting in the living room that I need to deal with too. They might as well be short stories for the amount of time they take to polish off, so I'll probably delve into a few of the better ones this weekend.

I liked Underworld, a lot, but I'll put off any more DeLillo until the winter semester break.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 2 September 2004 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Diary of a Teenage Girl: An account in Words and Pictures by Phoebe Gloeckner.

I wonder how the novel/graphic novel format is going to flow...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, VG, I just read "Diary" a couple of weeks ago. Gulped it in two sittings. I loved it. It was striking and harrowing and well-done on just about every level.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Friday, 3 September 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Vermont Girl, you have to pick up the last Comics Journal with Phoebe Gloeckner on the cover. There is a great, strange interview with her in it.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll look into the Comics Journal. I've been wanting to get it for a while now. Are the current issues avail. in chain bookstores (i.e. Borders)? I may order from back issues from Fantagraphics...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I'm pretty sure you can find it in Borders/B&N.

The interview gets weird when she gets mad at editor Gary Groth for not reviewing her last book when it came out. He backpedals furiously.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Moominvalley in November.

Cute. Luckily my brain is still child-sized so I can appreciate these books. They are beautifully written and illustrated.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished Hubert Selby Jnr's "Last Exit To Brooklyn" - sad, harrowing, sleazy, touching and still frighteningly relevant. Brilliantly written. Perfectly paced. My only criticism is that I felt little-to-none of the empathy in the main characters that so many other people seemed to find.
Not quite "the finest novel in the English language" (a description a friend uses regularly) but certainly up there.

Currently re-reading The Wasp Factory (prompted by an ILB discussion) - it certainly isn't having anywhere near the same impact as it did first time round and obviously it's all a bit flat when you know how it ends but I still think it's a very well crafted debut novel and I disagree with those who said Banks was playing on the shock value to make a name for himself.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Given all the brouhaha around here with the US elections coming up, I decided to check out a copy of "Culture War? The Myth of a Polarized America" after hearing about on NPR a few weeks ago. If it proves tedious, I'm ditching it for the naughty in "Yellow Silk."

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Saturday, 4 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading 'The Sicilian'. This is even better than 'The Godfather'. Matt is reading 'The Last Don' so we should really be in some kind of commercial for Mario Puzo right now.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it Don Rickles? I hope so.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I finished a book! My first in about a month! Jebus, this moving house thing is tough going. Anyway, just finished Mary Remault's The Persian Boy, chock full of interesting facts about Alexander the Great (although given that he dies at the end of it, I can't imagine what the next book is going to have to say about him). Now reading At Swim, Two Boys, which is very good, but I don't think it's as good as it thinks it is.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fortress of Solitude. Just came out in paperback. Reading a chapter a day. Anyone else read it?

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 6 September 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Raw Spirit by Iain Banks but he lost me when he started eulogising about SUVs and going on about how great his mates are and I'm not sure I'll finish it now.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

oh I've to tell it!!! I've just been given a Rip Van Winkle edition illustrated by Arthur Rackam
iuppie!!!
how i love presents!

misshajim (strand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Jealousy by Alain Robbe-Grillet. It's a two-books-in-one set, so I'll probably read In the Labyrinth next.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

'In the Beginning: The Story of the King James Bible and How It Changed a Nation, a Langauage and a Culture' by Alister McGrath (second attempt). By coincidence, the author is also a don.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, he's booked to talk about it at my local literature festival in November (a festival which as of last Thursday I am no longer involved in organising woo). Worth going do you think Peter?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, are you enjoying Jealousy? We had to read that for French class (in French) and, I admit, I couldn't stand it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

So far, it's interesting. I think how much I like it is going to depend pretty heavily on how much it "pays off" in the end. I'm trying hard to like it because he's one of the few modern authors that Nabokov consistently namechecked as worth reading, but at this point I feel like it could either get really good or be really disappointing. I'll keep you posted.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I am such a pathetic Nabokov fanboy.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I've finally finished Infinite Jest (review up on FT), and have started Perdido Street Station, which is at least a little smaller.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I'm happy that you didn't like IJ. But you mention liking 1001 Nights, which I've been thinking about reading. Maybe I've already asked this, but did you read/do you recommend the Burton rendition?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, do you really, really hate Freud?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not the one I read, but I can't remember who the translator was. There are loads of translations, and most of them abridge it a lot, and many bowdlerise it too. I went for the fullest version that I could find, in the library at my university at the time. There's a good article on many of them by Borges, which is certainly in that lovely big hardback collection of his non-fiction that came out a few years back.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, Cas. I don't really really hate Freud, but I do think he's a bit silly. But I don't care for Joseph Conrad (which was an opinion I formed pre-Nabokov obsession).

I finished Jealousy last night. I guess it didn't pay off in the way I hoped it would, but I still enjoyed it. The subtle paranoia and the repetitions were well-done, especially within the short structure. I don't think he overplayed the nicely creepy "invisible narrator" tactic either. I keep feeling that if I plotted out the events of the novel in the order that they actually happened and utilized the included floor plan of the house to figure out where everyone is at all times, I might uncover some fabulous secret, but this is probably a red herring. What didn't you like about it?
I'm going to continue on to "In the Labyrinth" next.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Trish, is that a different book from At Swim-Two-Birds? I've been wanting to find a copy of that — I still have this vague desire to read all the books in Burgess' 99 Novels and the O'Brian is one of them.

Last night I almost picked up

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That's weird. My post went pfft. Anyway, I almost picked up D'Arconville's Cat and decided on Nabokov's King, Queen, Knave instead.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember that in class we made diagrams of the house. But I don't remember much more.

I bought a lot of books yesterday. Some of which are in the mail. Several of the books I bought yesterday I will probably never read.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Alice's adventures in wonderland, one page a day, in RSS format.

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

'In the Beginning' is a very good book, Archie, a lot more interesting than I thought it would be. I think I would go along and listen to McGrath speak, he's occasionally quite witty and certainly never boring.

(It might be worth pointing out that I didn't know anything about Martin Luther, the Reformation, etc, perhaps it is old hat to you.)

Yesterday I bought a 'pre-owned' book by HENRY GREEN. It is LOVING/LIVING/PARTY GOING. I am pleased.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 9 September 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Grrr, I just missed a class because I spent a free hour at the library, reading Sartre's "Behind closed doors"
Very nice play though; must be a favorite amongst misanthropes.
If "amongst" can even be used when discussing misanthropes! Bill Hicks comes to mind.
-"People who hate people, come together!"
-"No!"

Anyhoo, I'm currently reading the following:
Alfred Bester - Tiger! Tiger! (AKA The Stars, My Destination)
It's pretty entertaining so far. I've heard that his other major novel, The Demolished Man, is supposed to be better, albeit [even] more pulpy. I like the idea of people being able to teleport by willpower, but choose not to do it once they reach a certain economic stature. The richer you get, the more antiquated means of transportation do you go by.
I wonder if I'll ever get tired of this sort of thing... I've probably passed the age where I'm supposed to have grown out of it, so I suppose I'm doomed for life now.

Charles Babbage - Passages from the life of a philosopher
Well, I -am- an information technology student, so I guess it's natural that I'd eventually want to start reading this sort of thing.
While he's not really credited as having been an inspiration for the creation of computers, few contest that his analytical engine was still essentially the first computer. He's quite explicit in noting that this is no autobiography though, rather "[it] relates a variety of isolated circumstances in which I have taken part [...] The selection has been made in some cases from the importance of the matter. In others, from the celebrity of the persons concerned; whilst several of them furnish interesting illustrations of human character."
In other words... Bitter old guy talks crap about everyone! (I hope... I'm not too far into it yet)

Tim Berners-Lee - Weaving The Web
More IT-history. Since there's no doubt that I'm a nerd, I might as well relish in it. It's basically a history of how he envisioned the net, and how it came to be, and insights on various parts of how it is, and what he hopes it'll become.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Keep us updated on the Henry Green, I've been contemplating buying that for a while.

I decided to take a break between the two Robbe-Grillets and read "Why Things Bite Back" by Edward Tenner first. So far it's kind of a dud. Yes, new technology can have unforeseen circumstances. No shit.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Chimes of Freedom: The Politics of Bob Dylan's Art

I like it!

I have finished Words and Music at last, and started The Moveigoer.

the chimefox, Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh I picked up Henry Green's 'Loving' a few weeks ago. I ought to get started on it.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Those three Green novels are really great - they're his best, I think.

Tiger! Tiger! is terrific too. I see no reason to grow out of writers as good as Bester at all.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(Øystein: "Huis-Clos" is generally known as "No Exit" in English)

I picked up Joe Queenan's "My Goodness" and am reading it as something lighter to read when I'm not up for "Decline and Fall", but so far it isn't nearly as enjoyable as his other books.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fortress of Solitude. Just came out in paperback. Reading a chapter a day. Anyone else read it?

i just got it. it's next after i finish re-reading the rotters' club.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm borrowing it from a friend when he's done with it. I'm not sure if I'm anticipating it or not; I liked Motherless Brooklyn but then I read Amnesia Moon and was pretty disappointed.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fortress of Solitude. Just came out in paperback. Reading a chapter a day. Anyone else read it?

I finished it a couple of weeks ago. It's GRATE.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 9 September 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked up Henry Green under Waterloo Bridge. It will probably take me a while to get round to giving him the thorough exploration he deserves. Perhaps I could have a race with Jerry the Nipper.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I am also reading the Collected Poems of Roger McGough. Niiiiiiice, as Borat would say.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Trish, is that a different book from At Swim-Two-Birds? I've been wanting to find a copy of that — I still have this vague desire to read all the books in Burgess' 99 Novels and the O'Brian is one of them.

Rock, it is a different book. It's by some jackanapes called Jamie O'Neill, and it's about, well, it's about being gay around the time of the Easter Rising, I suppose. It's a very good book, almost as good as it thinks it is. I did get stuck in an annoying bit of it for a while which was not funny, educational, or germane to the story and so I became cross. But shortly after that it pulled itself out of the mud and got on with things. As you do in wartime.

I've written quite a few words on earlier threads on this forum about My Problem With Flann O'Brien (synopsis: nyeh, it's not that funny really) so I won't bore you with my opinion any further.

I am currently reading Their Eyes Were Watching God. It is BRILLIANT and I am only sad that there is not more of it.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll keep an eye out for the O'Neill. I'm so excited, I've actually taken time to read actual for-real books this year. And I finally got a straight answer (and it was the answer I wanted) out of a balky library staff down the street. They're about to get a list of ILL requests that'll make 'em weep.

For me, 99 Novels = Krautrocksampler. The enthusiasm is too much; I want to experience everything on those lists.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 10 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Just subscribed to Oliver Twist!

Fred (Fred), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

marabou stork nightmares by irvine welsh. which is so far much better than Filth.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just started Mimesis by Erich Auerbach. It was a long time I read something so powerful and precise in the words used. Its writing feels exactly like clear light on a clean and sunny kitchen, it makes you discovers beautiful things both inside and outside yourself.

misshajim (strand), Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Myles is very funny, really.

So is PJ Miller!!

the chimefox, Saturday, 11 September 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

INVISIBLE REPUBLIC!

the bobfox, Saturday, 11 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Old Larry McMurtry novels The Desert Rose and The Late Child. I'd forgotten how much I enjoy his stories.

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I have just finished Someone To Watch Over Me by Paul Wilson, which is one of those books that you just pick up in the library on the off-chance. It was very good, although because it went off in a direction I wasn't really expecting.

And A Gathering Light by Jennifer Donnelly, which seems to have been hyped a lot. I think it lives up to it - very simply plotted but addictive. Before that it was Giving Up The Ghost by Hilary Mantel, which should be taught as a model for memoir-writing I think.

Now I'm reading The Queen of Subtleties by Suzannah Dunn. It's about Anne Boleyn and also Henry VIII's confectioner Lucy Cornwallis. I'm not much of a one for historical novels usually and I just got this one because I like her other (contemporary) books and I'm friends with her husband. (Is that a bad reason?)

Archel (Archel), Monday, 13 September 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

U & I

because I found it very cheap, and because JtN invoked it in his Morley article, which made me think it must be a significant model to know.

It's funny, though not exactly engaging. It's engaging, but also disengaging? It's disarming, but heavily armed. It's sometimes well-written, possibly; perhaps sometimes knowingly, if not deliberately, not well-written.

the dreamfox, Monday, 13 September 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ended up liking the Bester novel quite a bit, so now I'll have to interloan "The demolished man" which seems to generally be considered his strongest work.

Now reading "Life of Pi", which I must admit that I gave up on last year because of the foreword. Still reading the abridged "Guide of the perplexed" by Moses Maimonides.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I gave up on both "In the Labyrinth" by Robbe-Grillet and the unintended consequences of technology book after both failed to engage me in any way. I'm now reading a copy of Steve Martin's newer novel, "The Pleasure of My Company," which I got at a yard sale for a dollar. It's a nice breezy bittersweet read which I'll probably finish today. Next up I've got "Blindness/Doting/Nothing" by Henry Green, and then after that I'll probably at least start "War and Peace" (which my dad bought for me after bugging me to read it for the past 10 years).

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm about 230 pp into the fortress of solitude now, and if i didn't care at all about sleep i would have stayed up until dawn to finish it. n/a, don't be put off by your bad experience w/ one of lethem's earlier books. get this one immediately.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the library wants "Decline and Fall" back, and I haven't finished it. Stupid library! Stupid other people placing holds! How dare you!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

cereal boxes.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

& application forms, obv.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fortress of Solitude. - read it when it first came out and wasn't thrilled, but I like Lethem's earlier works, especially Gun, With Occasional Music.

Right now I'm reading Jonathan Strange and Mr Norell and am completely absorbed in the story-line. It's creative and a little creepy and a little funny and the characters are wonderfully likeable and dislikeable and I can't say enough good things about it (at least up till this point - about 200 more pages to go, so I hope it doesn't flounder). Unfortuantely, it's only out in hardcover and it's heavy as all get out to lug around all day.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen continues to be supercute.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

He maintains.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

He abides.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Abide with me, fast falls the eventide. The darkness deepens, Cozen, with me abide.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

*snarf*

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Øystein, 'The Demolished Man' is indeed a very fine read. I've been toying with the idea of reading 'Psychoshop', Bester's unfinished novel that was completed by Roger Zelazny, but not sure if it'll disappoint me - anyone read it?

Meanwhile I have finished 'Vineland' and have moved on to the Penguin Classics edition of the 'Odyssey'.

Mog, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I've finished Their Eyes Were Watching God, a very beautiful book. I'm going on holidays this week, and will be taking several ILB recommendations with me. But I still haven't come across a copy of Lanark in my shop, which I'm cross about because I really wanted to bring that. It's way up on my list of things to pounce on if they ever come in in a donation. However, I will be bringing Fortress of Solitude, which I note Lauren really likes, even if Ms. Laura doesn't particularly.
See, I pay attention to the things you say!
Also bringing Redmond O'Hanlon's Trawler, which seems entirely sensible reading for what promises to be a windy and rainy week in a Welsh cottage, Eunuchs for the Kingdom of God, which is about priests, not real eunuchs, and at least two other ones.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I need to modify my statement about Fortress of Solitude, in retrospect. It isn't that I detested the book or anything, and there were parts that I much enjoyed, it's more that I'd been hoping for something more, well, "out there" as opposed to being so realistic. It's a book that I would recommend, with a few reservations. I think I would have enjoyed it much more had I not read some of Lethem's earlier stuff. (And I must say that his writing was more polished and readable in this latest work than in earlier publications, which is a good thing.)

I'm envying you your holidays, Trish. Read with joy!

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

What Morley essay?

Ha ha, I read that as The Queen of Subtitles.

I seem to have got a bit stuck with that King James Bible book, just when King James comes in.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I should read that next (or maybe something about Elizabeth I in between), to keep my chronology going in the right direction...

Queen of Subtitles sounds interesting!

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact I have just skipped 500 years or so and gone straight on to Nathanael West and Miss Lonelyhearts. It's making me want to kill myself, or everyone else. It's also fantastic.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Very little concentration these days, the books keep piling up half-read on the little table near the bed...the last one is Baldassarre's Odissey by Amin Maalouf, I hope it will engage me long enought to finish it.

misshajim (strand), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

PJM: the one that JtN wrote for Freaky Trigger - did you see it? You should.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I gave up on The Fortress of Solitude, too, after a few chapters. It just didn't hold my fancy either so soon after reading "As She Climbed Across the Table", which was brilliant and sad. I still have to read "Gun, with Occasional Music". My friend with excellent taste in books recommended it and I haven't picked it up yet. Hmm..what have I read recently-From Hell-which I talked about over on ILC, The Time Traveller's Wife, which was lovely and sad and makes me want to visit Chicago soon, and currently I am engrossed in "The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle" another excellent Ben recommendation, and I have been really sick these past few days so I've plowed through 465 pages of it, and it's just getting better and more mysterious and historical and gut-wrenching (Oh, the zoo animals, poor things)

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm thinking that there might be a split with people who prefer lethem's pre-motherless brooklyn novels and those who don't. l really liked mb and couldn't put the fortress of solitude down, whereas the descriptions of his earlier books make me think, "ugh."

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! Wind Up Bird Chronicle! Yes, I must bring that too.

Also I am reading poorly-written signs. I was in Evans doing some clothes shopping today and I noticed they were advertising sandles for €12. SANDLES! What the hell is wrong with people?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I have that book about the bird, too, now. I don't know if I'm going to read it. JtN gave it to me.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Please do read it, Dr. the Pinefox.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the wind-up bird chronicle took me about a year to finish. i liked it a lot overall, but i lost concentration with it quite often. i didn't find it life-changing or to be one of the best books of the decade, which is what people frequently told me about it.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pinefox, JTN gave it to you! What more recommendation do you need? (I think it's great too.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Good point, Martin. But I think he only gave it to me cos he didn't want to lug it to his new bijou flat across the metropolis.

I was wondering yesterday whether JtN had actually gone off Murakami and was offloading his wares partly because of this, or whether the decision was purely utilitarian. But either way, I have about four of them now.

Would you like, or care, to tell me, for instance in order, which ones are best? (I hope I have not missed you saying this elsewhere.)

the bellefox, Thursday, 16 September 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't know, as I've only read two - there was a good thread on Murakami recently, I think on ILE. Wind-Up is a highly regarded one, and I thought it was terrific.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

morton feldman 'give my regards to 8th street'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is the Murakami thread, Foxy:

Haruki Murakami

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just started on Evelyn Waugh's "A handful of dust."
Waugh's not someone I'm familiar with at all, but I picked up this on a whim, expecting something rather decadant, maybe something like a British Fitzgerald. I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet, as I'm not very far in, but it's proving to be a real delight. I've already had a couple of good laughs, and his writing is really quite titillating.

Previous to this, the last novel I read was Iain M Banks' "Inversions," which I never quite got hooked on, and found it to be surprisingly slow going. It was nice overall though, and gave a different outlook than what we usually get in his Culture series.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 23 September 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Øystein H-O,

Perhaps you shouldn't read this until you're done with the delightful Handful of Dust.
Waugh! What Is He Good For?

Otherwise, Histoire de l'Anglophobie en France by Jean Guiffan. My alltime favorite refernce is to Louis Martin's L'Anglais est-il un Juif?. The worst side of French culture in a nutshell.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

'1984'!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 September 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Julio, are you enjoying the Feldman book? i thought it was great fun - something i really didn't expect. His prose style is unlike anyone else i have ever read; it's incredibly compressed and direct, in complete contrast to his music. He can tell you what happened to him over a five year period in a half page paragraph, it seems.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 24 September 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Life of Pi is getting me out of the reader's block I was experiencing. Weird because it's ages I see the book and do not feel interested, and then a friend sends it to me, and I'm off on its track.

misshajim (strand), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't come here much now, but hello everyone. I am 460/501 through The Line of Beauty by Alan Hollinghurst. A satire on the eighties with lots of sex. Unfortunately, gay sex, which isn't my thing.

It's on the Booker short list and seems to be 2nd favourite behind David Mitchell.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

where did ya go, mikey? in any case, hello!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, Mickey: I want very much to read that book!

the bellefox, Friday, 24 September 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading As She Climbed Across The Table by Jonathan Lethem, because it was easier to carry home from the library than The Fortress of Solitude. It's good, so far.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 24 September 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't really go anywhere (it's Mikey, not Mickey, Pinefox; I'm not a plumber), I just don't have the time with work and all.

It was either ILB / ILE or Freaky Trigger and I prefer writing for the latter at the moment.

There are some really good posters on here, mind (Michael White and missajim spring to mind and accentmonkey too). And praise be to Scott, who set this board up and deserves credit and cake.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm new here...just stumbled upon the site

I just finished What to Keep - Rachel Cline and am now making my way through Kristin Gore's new book Sammy's Hill - so far so good.

Carie, Friday, 24 September 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on Donald Westlake's Brothers Keepers, which is one of the least lively books of his I've ever read.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 24 September 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I read a short horror story by Donald Westlake last night, it was called Journey to Death I guess.

Fred (Fred), Friday, 24 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Julio, are you enjoying the Feldman book? i thought it was great fun - something i really didn't expect. His prose style is unlike anyone else i have ever read; it's incredibly compressed and direct, in complete contrast to his music. He can tell you what happened to him over a five year period in a half page paragraph, it seems.
-- jed_ (colin_o_har...), September 24th, 2004. (later)

I'm not sure whether his style is unlike anyone - its very conversational and he wz very good, funny, readable, direct, reminding me of John cage. I agree about how he keeps ticking over, saying lots of things in a page, unlike his music, which just develops and never quite gets anywhere - or I get lost by the time it does, you know.

I had a problem with some of his opinions - I didn't get what his problem with stockhausen but that's bcz my ear tell me that feldman does push sounds around but maybe not to the extent that stockhausen does; maybe that's the mindset you have to make original music, quibble with everything. Liked how he'd link painting with his music -one of many things I enjoyed.


right now - gary indiana's mini bk on pasolini's 'salo'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on the last third of the "Nothing/Doting/Blindness" Henry Green trifecta. Nothing was good, Doting was better, and I think Blindness might trump all of them by the time I'm done with it. I'm looking forward to getting "Living/Loving/Party Going" as well.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I read Brother's Keepers when I was a kid (i was a huge westlake fan when i was a kid) and i remember thinking it was a dud then!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading "The Art Of Cookery In Medieval Times" which is pretty interesting.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, Julio - I read and loved Indiana's book on Salo too. Much better than the film, imo. If you like his writing you should read "Resentment" which i thought was incredible.

re. Feldman. I enjoyed the book alot but don't really have the background knowledge to question his opinions too much. You know alot more about this kind of music than i do. The best parts of the book for the relative layman are when he talks about living in the same building as Cage and meeting Rauschenburg and Johns etc. It seems incredibly evocative of the era and makes you wish you were around at that time.

re. Hollinghurst - i'm just about to start "The Line of Beauty" (luckily gay sex is my thing, ha) and am not long finished Mitchell's "Cloud Atlas" which seemed to me to be much less than the sum of it's parts, unfortunately. I'm quite a fan of Mitchells though and would rather like to see him win the booker in spite of my reservations. I think it's quite likely Hollinghurst will win though.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 24 September 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

wz gonna finish that book (I only watched 'salo' once, and a long time ago, some of the images are inevitably burned at once) but picked the latest issue of the wire - they've got a gd section for movie soundtracks (titled 'cinesonics').

jed- I don't know about composition in terms of theory so its all surface really (heh). I wz just wondering about this idea that he doesn't 'push sounds around' - I think i know what he means but...not quite. The bk, as you say, is also about his friends and art - and I know next to nothing abt many of those people - I found it moving at times; at how he'd back his friends; at how he felt that he and they were doing something new and interesting. It moved me.

Did you watch that performance of string quartet (II) btw?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 September 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

what are you reading?

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 24 September 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Book the Eleventh, The Grim Grotto in "A Series of Unfortunate Events". It's an interesting follow-up to Triangle: The Fire that Changed America. Both have quite depressing moments.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 September 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The Waugh was a thoroughly wonderful read.
Just started on Emmanuel Carrère's "The Class Trip" (in Norwegian translation)

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 25 September 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Growth of the Soil - Knut Hamsun. It reminds me of the Harvest Moon computer game.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 25 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

James Branch Cabell - Jurgen
Incidentally, I found the whole book online here(virginia.edu), in case anyone's curious.

Better yet, I found the whole of The Man Who Was Friday online as well, right here(Bartleby.com). The foreword to my father's paperback copy of this one was where I first heard of Jurgen. Hooray!

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 25 September 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Toby Litt - Corpsing. It's okay so far.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Stoppard- Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead.

Fred (Fred), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't be arsed with '1984'. In the age of Nectar cards it seems very tame.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 26 September 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I just googled Nectar cards and it mentioned nothing about changing fundamental arithmetic.

That said, I love Orwell for his essays, and think his fiction is mostly "meh".

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 26 September 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I have decided to persevere with '1984'. It's getting good now.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 26 September 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

law books.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 26 September 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Started on Horace Walpole's "The Castle of Otranto" on the side of Jurgen.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Sunday, 26 September 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm supposed to be reading law books :-(

Fred (Fred), Sunday, 26 September 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

George Melnyk, 'New Moon at Batoche': postmodernist autobiography as told using the history of the Canadian prairies and Western alienation, I guess you could say. I really enjoy it, though I read parts of it two year ago for another course, and fully missed the point then. Now I'm a little more into pomo, and it's just plain FUN!

next, Robert Stead's 'Grain', a novel about prairie life from 1926. Can you tell I'm taking 'History of the Canadian Prairies'?

oh, also "The Power Game: How Washington Works", some 800+ pages mostly on the Reagan administration et al by Hedrick Smith. It's good stuff but really frustrating in a WTF sense.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 26 September 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Fatland by Greg Critser and Something from the Oven by Laura Shapiro, two different (but not opposed) viewpoints on convenience foods. Also, The Sisters: The Saga of the Mitford Family by Mary S. Lovell, though I stalled out in the middle.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

just finished the dark tower. point me towards a similar series, but with an ending and not a cop-out, please

darragh.mac (darragh.mac), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Another Dario Fo play (I'm reading this one in the original Italian, which I've been learning from grammar books and reading for about 9 months now, and am reading it mostly without a dictionary! I actually sat in a restaurant today and read it with one hand and ate with the other and understood 90% of the text! All my mean-old-Nazi-lady self-teaching techniques actually work, I'm so psyched!), couple books I have to review (Layer Cake, about the London coke trade, forget the author's name; Hell's Half ACres, by Will Bauer, about a bunch of coke fiends shooting a snuff film -- what is it with the books about nose candy these days???), Au Bonheur des Ogres by Daniel Pennac (who was it that recommended him again? THANK YOU!!!, also trying to finish the hypnotising fall-perfect creeparoola Gormenghast trilogy.

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Hundred Brothers by Donald Antrim. Halfway through, jury is still out. It's... engaging and disturbing.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Monday, 27 September 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Dry, by Augusten Burroughs. I loved Running With Scissors and the writing is just as great here, although he could hardly have topped the story...

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Notes on a Scandal by Zoe Heller. I've a bad leg and stayed in the flat all weekend. I didn't read much of it though. Too much football on telly.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The Hundred Brothers by Donald Antrim. Halfway through, jury is still out. It's... engaging and disturbing.

-- Rabin the Cat

I've read the first sentence of that book, and want to read the whole book as a result.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 27 September 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I know that Notes on a Scandal (What Was She Thinking, here is the U.S.) is supposed to be very good, Booker short list and all, but I just can't get beyond the awful pretentious Zoe Heller Telegraph column. I think the footie was the better choice. I am reading The Brothers Karamazov. I gave up on War & Peace months ago, I find Tolstoy the much more diffcult to read, for some reason, I'm not sure why yet.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I've finished Life of Pi and keep being surprised by the fact that I actually liked it...Now have started on Dalai Lama "The Art of Happiness" or something like it (don't know its English title) it makes me feel I'm doing something good to myself, which I particularly need in this period

and hi Mikey, nice to see you back! sorry about your leg...

misshajim (strand), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, so why was the title of 'Notes on a Scandal' changed in the US, do you know? It's on my list to get from the library...

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished Checkpoint by Nicholson Baker, which really was as crap as everyone said it was.

Am now reading The 9/11 Commission Report. So far, it's been sad and hard to put down.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The Hundred Brothers gets a lot better in the second half, once the football game starts.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I always get confused between 9/11 and 7/11.

At book club tonight, we're talking about Camus - The Outsider (L'Etranger for you Francophiles). Quick, give me something intelligent to say so everyone thinks I'm brilliant.

All I've got so far is the fact that the Cure made a song out of it. Not a good justification of any book.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got cats now so the reading is getting more difficult. They are both balanced on my lap helping me type right now. Bless them.

On my holidays I did read Middlesex, which was top class and made me not want to go out and do holiday stuff. Also Krakatoa by Simon Winchester, which was interesting but suffered from being packed a little too full of extraneous information. Then Alfred Bester's The Stars, My Destination, which was also GRATE and very beautifully written, even if the actual characters were rubbish and their motivations, beyond bludgeoning revenge, were questionable. And I read Trawler by Redmond O'Hanlon, which I greatly enjoyed and would have enjoyed even more if there had been a little less of the sleep-deprived ranting and more facts about wacky creatures of the deep.
Now I'm reading The Fly in the Cathedral by Brian Cathcart, about the group of Cambridge scientists who split the atom. It is trying very hard to explain things in a way that even a monkey-brained idiot like me can understand, and so far I think I get it. It's also just kind of an interesting story.
Next up is I, Claudius, or maybe Funeral Games. Oh, I just don't know!
Wales, also, is lovely. There are lots of birds and seals and dolphins and things to look at, and the beer is yummy. Recommended.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The song is Killing an Arab.
Also, two movies were made on this book, Lo Straniero (1967), directed by Luchino Visconti, and Yagzi (2001), directed by Zeki Demirkubuz.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading another one of those Grijpstra-de Geir crime novels by Janwillem van de Wetering. They are really the best. If you enjoy zen buddhist deadpan comic dutch cop novels, you gotta get some of these. There are a bunch of them. The one I'm reading is Death of a Hawker.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished Inventing Mark Twain. Interesting stuff; now I must read Innocents Abroad, Roughing It, etc. But first: The Big Sleep!
"You'd make a good cop." "I hope not."

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Dry, by Augusten Burroughs. I loved Running With Scissors and the writing is just as great here, although he could hardly have topped the story... I loved both these books. And thanks for the encouragement on The Hundred Brothers, I will pick it up again with anticipation.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

L'Etranger was the first novel I read entirely in French. What I noticed when reading it in French, which I didn't notice when I first read it in English, is how often things are phrased in the terminology of violence. So a thought never occurs to him -- it strikes him. And he doesn't knock upon a door -- he beats it. Something like that. But in French.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

suskind's perfume is rachel stevens' favourite book, apparently.

candour floss (mwah), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just about to start White Noise, but I went to the bookstore in Tupelo this morning and the third book of Stephenson's Baroque Cycle was out, so I'll be starting that in a little while. Jack and Eliza are a better soap opera than "Days of Our Lives."

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I read almost all of the first of the Baroque Cycle novels in one sitting while stuck on a train trip that was supposed to take 12 hours but ended up taking 24, and it was just too much Stephenson all at once and I haven't been tempted to read the others at all since. I don't think it was bad or anything, just overloaded by Stephenson.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Brautigan - Dreaming of Babylon
Richard Brautigan - Willard and his Bowling Trophies

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'journey to the end of the night'.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

In between international relations texts, The Berlin Stories by Christopher Isherwood.

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Thursday, 30 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

'Things You Should Know' by A M Homes. I love it.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

'1984' gave me a nightmare.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I am currently reading Founding Mothers by Cokie Roberts. It is the best history text about the Revolutionary War that I have read.

Laura Schreiber, Friday, 1 October 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Welp, just finished Paul Auster's"The New York Trilogy.
Now on with Marie Darrieussecq's Truismes, in Norwegian translation, plus William Goldman's The Princess Bride.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. Magical.

Now rereading David Mitchell's Ghostwritten after seeing him at a reading last night. And I never reread books. I heart David Mitchell.

Bruno Schulz's The Street of Crocodiles and Gwendoline Riley's Sick Notes are on deck.

zan, Friday, 1 October 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Just read Russell Hoban's The Bat Tattoo (comments on FT). Just started Sigrid Undset's Kristin Lavransdatter, and since it's a thousand pages of very small print, a family saga set in medieval Norway, I suspect it will take fucking ages to read.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 2 October 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope you enjoy 'The Princess Bride', Oystein. It's a great book I think. I have just finished 'Against Oblivion' by Ian Hamilton and am now reading 'Going Gently' by David Nobbs and 'The Russian Debutante's Handbook' by Gary ohfuckcantspellhisname.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The Viceroy of Ouidah by Bruce Chatwin.

After staying in the Ouidah Suite of the Chatiwn hotel. I thought a reread was in order.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished up "The Berlin Stories," and now immersed in "In Praise of Older Women."

yesabibliophile (yesabibliophile), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could hurry up and finish 1984.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 4 October 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished Cintra Wilson's entertaining Colors Insulting to Nature and have now embarked on James Bamford's Body of Secrets.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 4 October 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm a reading a thom jones collection now. Cold Snap.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm lazily reading Everything Is Illuminated, and even though I find it ridicolous, I still keep on reading it. I guess it is this weird biological period of mine, counting the days before the baby is born...

misshajim (strand), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The Actual by Saul Bellow.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My first attempt to negotiate the murky waters of Inter-Library Loan with the dumbheads down the street came through yesterday: Mother London by Michael Moorcock arrived from the LSU library. Original British first edition, too; was this ever published in the U.S.? So for the time being I have to set aside one London novel, The System of the World, for another. I believe I requested this based on a plug somewhere here on ILB.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

How German Is It? by Walter Abish

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

miriam benkovitz' biography of ronald firbank

"firbank explained that he attended the services of cambridge's enormous parish church...instead of the undergraduates' mass...because he required vast spaces for his "uprisings of mysticism""


eriik, Thursday, 7 October 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again, National Poetry Day is passing by almost unnoticed, so much so that I can't find the Poetry Thread.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 7 October 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading Chronicles, Vol. 1 by Bob Dylan and loving it. He's using a very crefree lucid style of writing that I'm finding quite enjoyable.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Thursday, 7 October 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Slaughterhouse 5 - Kurt Vonnegut.

My last read was about Meissen pottery. Might as well continue the Dresden theme. So it goes etc.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished Everything Is Illuminated yesterday and found it better in the end, if somewhat still immature in writing. Then started and finished the last of the Montalbano's series. Beautiful as usual.
Am now going to spend the morning looking for another good read...
How am I going to miss these days!!!

misshajim (strand), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I've recently read McEwan's "The Cement Garden" and Coetzee's "Life & Times of Michael K", and am now reading Wyndham's "Midwich Cuckoos".

Archel: I did indeed like The Princess Bride fairly much, though I do sort of wish I'd read it ten years ago instead. The wry "abridger"'s comments throughout were a hoot.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Peoplewatching: The Desmond Morris Guide to Body Language.

It's about YOU.

I am glad I have finished 1984. It was good, but I really struggled at times.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

nietszche, 'why I am so wise'

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the Point of Life? by Michael Levy.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen, that title is comical, isn't it?

Miller, some noticed Poetry Day, for instance the Mark Radcliffe show with S. Armitage: but that was not very interesting, alas.

Was Poetry Day any good for you?

the pomefox, Saturday, 9 October 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

There was a poetry day? No-one tells me anything. I'm still reading about fusty old Cambridge dons and how they held their apparatus together with plasticine (missus!) having taken a short break to read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime which, because I am a person, I enjoyed.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 9 October 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

'carte postale'

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 9 October 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Blankets by Craig Thompson. It's a belated (thank you, amazon.com!) birthday gift from my husband, from my must read list.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Sunday, 10 October 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the whole book, pf, is comical.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 10 October 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

How is the Abish? I enjoyed Alphabetical Africa, but I've got one of his other books around here and I have never bothered to start it. I don't even remember what it's called.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 10 October 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Have finished book about physics history. Good fun. Now reading Sputnik Sweetheart, which so far appears identical in almost every respect to the two other Murakami books I've read, except that it's not as good.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Douglas Adams - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. The trilogy of five.

The Dangers of Teleport song
I teleported home one night, with Ron and Sid and Meg
Ron stole Meggie's heart away
And I got Sidney's Leg

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I am having one more go at 'The Adventures of Augie March'. My mind keeps wandering, mid-sentence.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing that matters, now, is how bad a guy is.

the bellefox, Monday, 11 October 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The Prophet by Khalil Gibran.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm also re-reading the Hitchhiker books again, interspersed with soporific books about cataloguing and The Russian Debutante's Handbook still.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh, please remove the superfluous 'again' or 're-' from the above. Although, I have re-read them more than once, so I guess it's accurate? Oh my poor brane.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished Blankets. It was very lovely. I zipped through it quickly, then went back to savor some especially wonderful drawings/moments. Finished Status Anxiety today while it rained a gentle rain outside. As usual, de Botton left me with much to ponder and a list of other books to read.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The Intuitionist, by Colson Whitehead. I've been meaning to read it forever, and it's great.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I am now reading Bill Bryson's Mother Tongue, the first chapter of which is VERY ANNOYING, because he makes all these jokes about other languages and the hilarious 'did you know' style facts he comes up with about Irish are NOT TRUE. So how do I know if the stuff in the rest of the book is true? Grrr.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Monkey, have you read Eagleton's THE TRUTH ABOUT THE IRISH?

the finefox, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Eats, Shoots & Leaves

I, have learnt much new stuff. From it. Its great.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Not even in a joke, Mikey. Not even in a joke.

Foxy, no I haven't. Is it chock full of LIES, by any chance?

I finished Sputnik Sweetheart. Either I didn't get it or it was just crap, because it just seemed resolutely insubstantial and I did not give a toss about anyone in it or what happened to them.

Can someone explain it to me?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it contains some truths. I can't remember whether it mentions Swords.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

just finished Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer by Warren St. John, really engaging book about Alabama football and fan culture in general.

recently have read Moneyball by Michael Lewis, Austerlitz by W.G. Sebald and parts of The Autobiography of Mark Twain

slowly getting through Ulysses, trying to do 10 pages a day when I have some really undivided, uninterrupted time to concentrate.

picking Dance Dance Dance back up today, i really enjoyed what i'd read so far but had to put it down to read some books for a class.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I seem to be on a blockbuster novel fit, and, consequently, am currently reading the DaVinci Code...I know I know, but it takes just a day to finish this kind of stuff, and it helps to keep me calm (which I need a lot, now)

misshajim (strand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer

That's the kind of thing I say after I've been drinking.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Flaubert's Salambo. I'll be visiting Tunesia next week, though its said that the remains of Carthago are almost nondescript. Salambo is about one of the Punic wars of the Cartagogians against the Romans.

erik, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

How do you like Salambo? I got it from the library recently, but haven't come around to reading it yet.

Over the past few days I read "The Malacia Tapestry" by Brian Aldiss. Or, to be honest, tried to read it... I managed to get about halfway in, but by then I had to give up, due to my complete lack of interest in what it told me.

I've started on Charles Maturin's Melmoth The Wanderer now, which is a whole lot more fascinating.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Salammbô

well, so far I just read the first chapter: pretty amazing in details and live. can't wait to go on! (there will be some brutal and canabilistic scenes coming up, it is said, but if its all written in that high standard flaubert style, I don't mind)

erik, Thursday, 14 October 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and now I'm reading Bob Dylan's Chronicles, Volume One because I've been asked to join a panel on Monday on (irish) telly to talk about how much I hate Bob Dylan.

I don't really hate Bob Dylan, but I have to come up with some reasons to hate him before Monday, because I need the free publicity for the shop.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I should point out that I don't exactly like him either, so it's not that much of a chore.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Monkey, 1) It's great that you are going on TV but 2) it is bad to hate and attack Dylan.

the finefox, Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

2) it is bad to hate and attack Dylan

Yeah, well, I'm not proud of it. As one of my other mates pointed out, it's a bit sad when a telly programme has to persuade people to adopt an extreme view that doesn't reflect how they really feel in order to generate some kind of controversy. I genuinely believe that no-one should be getting that worked up about some singer who hasn't done anything worthwhile in thirty years, particularly when there are so many other things that we could be devoting the time and energy to.

That said, I find that his new book (to bring this back to books), which I have been reading, is very poorly written and most unengaging.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 15 October 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

Fred (Fred), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am about halfway though 'Chump Change' by Dan Fante, and enjoying it. Though at this stage the harsh truth seems to be, well, he's just not quite as good as his dad...

Mog, Friday, 15 October 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

He has done marvellous things in the last 10 years!

the bluefox, Friday, 15 October 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I'm not saying he's not a good writer, 'Fox - it's just my first impression that he's somewhat in the shadow of John. It's an inevitable comparison to make, sadly; if he wasn't his father's son, I'd probably be going, 'Wow, this guy's pretty cool'. As it is, I find myself going, 'Yeah, but it ain't no 'Ask The Dust' is it?'

Mog, Friday, 15 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Spin Cycle: How the White House and the Media Manipulate the News by Howard Kurtz is the bedtime reading. I have to repeat the mantra 'fuck nostalgia' three times before opening it (pub. 1998).

I found a hardback of The Corner for $2 at Salvation Army but if I read it before bed I don't go to bed.

The Granta Book of the American Short Story is available for quick access. After reading Harold Brodkey's story "The State of Grace" in it, I had to get a book of his from the library, so a laminated copy of The World Is the Home of Love and Death sits on my dresser, waiting for me to make time for it.

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 15 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Good As I Been To You and World Gone Wrong are from 1993 and 1994, right? Those are the last worthwhile things Dylan has done.

I'm kinda not reading anything right now, it's a bit sad.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 17 October 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i just finished "The Line of Beauty" by Alan Hollinghurst. Beautiful - verging on being a masterpiece but just misses the mark slightly by not being evil enough in the end. He doesnt cut through the characters in the same way as Edith wharton or Henry James would although James is definatley the model for the book. He's very good on motivation though and also good on how people say one thing disingenuously trying to find out another thing. I think it will win the booker prize and i hope it does. It's perfectly constructed.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 17 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Middlesex and find myself wondering what it is about most contemporary fiction authors that makes their novels intelligent, interesting, innovative, but so very little else? so that once you finished reading them you can well give them away and not worry about not having them back...

misshajim (strand), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

rosamond lehmann, 'dusty answer'
jean genet, 'a thief's journal'

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The Russian Debutante's Handbook is taking sooo long to finish, I have no idea why. Maybe I'm not getting as much time to read as I had in the summer. Or at least, to read anything apart from school books (taking sides: cataloguing vs Japanese. Maybe I should do my upcoming project on Japanese cataloguing and kill two birds with one stone).

Anyway... I have just started Sheepshagger but I am already baulking a bit, on the third page.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

denis johnson, 'angels'

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 18 October 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I have been in the mood for fiction lately, and I impulsively bought a copy of Kafka's Amerika, a book I'd been interested in reading for a very long time. It's really funny so far. I'm glad I knew essentially nothing about the plot line when I picked it up.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 18 October 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Read Aldous Huxley's "Ape and essence" the other day. I don't care what lots of frowny-fingers say, I love that old boy's writing. Thankfully, there's still plenty left of his that I've yet to read even once.

Now pulling my eyes along the lines of Herbert Read's "The Green Child", which I had no idea what to expect from, but which is having a great impact on me, making it both hard to put down, and harder yet to turn out of the ol' headbox. Lovely use of simple, yet vivid language, too.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Monday, 18 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I read and enjoyed that - I still prefer Read's art writing though. When I was starting to learn about art, he was wonderful.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

'The Sea, The Sea' by Iris Murdoch. Very good. The lead character is tailor-made for Tom Baker to play.

I don't remember anything about Poetry Day, but I have recovered my Ivor Cutler CD, which is now up for sale on Amazon, along with the rest of my worldly possessions.

'Peoplewatching' was a bit rub, I thought. Didn't finish it. Yet. i.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished 'Chump Change' (turned out really good, after all), now reading 'Ubik' by Philip K Dick.

Mog, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The New Penguin Book of Love Poetry.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hubba hubba.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

a game of dark by william mayne
memento mori by muriel spark
the fly and the fly bottle by ved mehta

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

william mayne! I still can't find his books :(

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, now. It's gone out of my head.

Frank O'Hara again, sometimes.

the bellefox, Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Memento Mori is wonderful - I love Muriel Spark. A sadly neglected writer - my favourite British writer since, ooh, Wodehouse I think.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I just started "Fortress of Solitude" by Jonathan Lethem, and I'm loving it. It's the kind of book I want to sneak into the bathroom and read during work.

Not having read any of his novels, I had always thought of Lethem as this McSweeney's set writer who thought he was being "experimental." Perhaps that's what his earlier stuff was like, but this is wonderful, warm, and very human.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I am a big Muriel Spark man too. My favourite is probably 'A Far Cry From Kensington'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I read that (A Far Cry..) recently. It was well boss.

Currently reading Maradona's autobiography. That man has some ego.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I like 'A Far Cry from Kensington' too. But I read her recent one - 'The Finishing School'? - and wasn't too keen. Oddly unrealistic, like she'd been living on Mars for a while...

Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I finished Colson Whitehead's The Intuitionist (loved it), and now for pure fun I'm reading Nick Sagan's second novel, Edenborn.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell. But slowly, since it's too bloody heavy to carry around with me.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 October 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Spark's books have generally been realistic, but I've not read that one yet, so can't sensibly comment.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

'the swarming streets'

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I am halfway through "The Fortress of Solitude" and it seems to have jumped ahead in time significantly, haven't read enough to know how much yet.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen, you are a streetheart.

Pynchon, again, for me, just now.

the bellefox, Monday, 25 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you got the whole thing, Cozen?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I have abandoned Bill Bryson's Mother Tongue, having remembered what it is I don't like about him, namely his very patronising attitude towards anything that isn't American. Read Sarah Waters' Fingersmith at the weekend and found it most enjoyable. Now reading Fortress of Solitude, but I'm not as far into it as Jocelyn, so I haven't hit any kind of time shift yet. I do really like the book, though.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I really loved The Fortress of Solitude; our company's book group had the fortune of discussing the book with Mr. Lethem himself. He explained a lot of the issues I had with the book, including the odd leap in style from the magical world of Dylan in "Underberg" to the not-so-magical first person Dylan in "Prisonaires". I felt much better after he explained it, but authors shouldn't really have to explain their books to their readers, should they?

As for me, I'm reading Dance Dance Dance, and this time, Murakami is pissed off. Seriously, he's got attitude in this one!

zan, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

his very patronising attitude towards anything that isn't American. I've read all his books, both travel and language, and don't really see this. He wrote of GB with such affection and warmth in Notes from a Small Island. His book about Australia was so fawning that it actually made me less desirous of visiting there when I'd long been fascinated. Could you share some examples of what you mean?

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished 'Ubik' - v good though not as stomach-floppingly exciting as 'Man In The High Castle', I thought.

Started 'Leap Year', the only Steve Erickson I haven't read.

Mog, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

One hundred years of solitude :-)

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading a biography of Cole Porter, which I'm finding a bit too biography-y for my tastes.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you mean by that?

I finished The Corner. I suppose it has its problems as a book -- too long, long passages of author preaching -- but it worked some kind of miracle. It's devestating but I looked forward to reading it every day. I'm about to finish the Clinton White House vs the Media book.

I have just now remembered that The Curious Incident in the Nighttime with the Dog or whatever it's called has been waiting for me at the library for like a week, well, damn, I hope it's still waiting.

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 28 October 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

As a child, Cole Porter always received an abundance of presents at Christmastime, ranging from the practical to the purely pleasurable. It was difficult to predict which would be his favorite: A pair of couture spats that his mother had sent in from Belgium failed to please him at age seven, but the next year a simple wooden spinning toy would enchant him throughout the year. His admiration for this toy perhaps led to his penning of that immortal standard of praise, "You're The Top".

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 October 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The Diary of Anne Frank.

The graphic description of her vagina was unexpected. I'm not joking.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Joan Didion, The White Album.

That essay on feminism -- gosh, Kingsley Amis must have been so proud of her.

the bellefox, Saturday, 30 October 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

give me the child that likes couture spats until the age of seven and i will show you the um

ignatius loyola s (mark s), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have thought a Lloyd Cole fan like yourself, The Pinefox, would have read all Joan Didion's books long ago. That's why I read them. The most useful thing I learnt from them is the big about car parking spaces in supermarkets.

I have been to Ignatius of Loyola's Museum or Basillica or whatever it is. At Loyola. They have little models of his life story, like Michael Bentine's Potty Time.

I have finished 'The Sea, The Sea'. It is very good. Now I will start a new book. It might be 'The Line of Beauty' which I got out of the library.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

From all evidence, Cole Porter at age seven would have thought the spats were the shiznit.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM MOMUSFOR HALLOWEEN

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 31 October 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

See Under: Love by David Grossman

Very good thus far.

s/, Monday, 1 November 2004 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I have started the Hollinghurst. It is very good. It features something called 'bumshoving'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 1 November 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading The Day of the Locust. I didn't realise there was a character called Homer Simpson in it.

I finished Cloud Atlas - it was good.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is everyone writing in this annoying style?

Anyway, I finished Anne Frank's Diary. Predictable or what? Ha ha, I'm not funny.

Started Orlando by Virginia Woolf; a witty satire on Disneyworld.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

heidegger: being and time
hegel: introductory lecture to aesthetics

:(:(:(:(:(:(

it is for a bet friend who needs advice and discussion

mark s (mark s), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

random family, by adrian leblanc. it's so good that i went 3 stops past where i needed to disembark last week because i was completely engrossed.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Random Family is amazing, I agree. I was reading Truth and Beauty a few weeks ago and Patchett mentions being friends with Leblanc.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

So, I finally finished Richard Farina's Been Down So Long It Looks Like This is Going to Be A Very Long Title and E.B. Sledge's With the Old Breed. I'm still going in Frances Fitzgerald's Way Out There in the Blue. I started up a few pages of Faulkner's Light in August and I think I'll try to make a go of it. I've also been dipping into anthologies of Chekhov and Lovecraft.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 November 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is everyone writing in this annoying style?

i have no idea but its rampant on ILE too.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It is, I think, a kind of 'hommage' to The Pinefox. He, in turn, does it as an 'hommage' to RJG. Or at least, aspects of it, of him.

I like it, it is not annoying.

I am, perhaps, slightly disappointed to find that The Pinefox does not favour this style in his published, works.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

did you like been down so long, nate? i was so disappointed by it. tedious, self-indulgent, misogynistic, smug.. BAH.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ on a bike, Virginia Woolf is boring.

Am I missing something?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

No. You aren't, by chance, reading The Waves, are you?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

No, Orlando. Written for Vita Sackville-West and inflicted on the public at large. The cover looked promising (i.e it showed a bit of breast).

The writing is like walking through syrup.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that my style is quite plain, at times.

PJM, your point re. Didion is very good, but I am not very well-read, so I have not read it. Oddly, I, too, have taken The Line of Beauty out of the library. I feel as though your attitude to gay sexuality has not changed since sinister. Nor, I imagine, has mine, whatever it is.

I don't know how all you people manage to read Richard Farina.

Being and Time is not worth reading.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm very sorry colin and when you mentioned it I did make a concerted effort to stop. I think I'm doing ok, aren't I?

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Orlando isn't a book I'd suggest reading for the titty factor.

It took me a few tries to read it. The movie is far, far better.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in the home stretch of War and Peace! 100 pages to go! Then I'm going to read a graphic novel and some Jonathan Lethem to unwind.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I have RENEWED 'The Line of Beauty'. I was scared someone would have reserved it, but no. I can have it until the 23rd. I have also started 'The Economist Guide to Financial Markets, Third Edition'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Orlando is about as non-bored as I have ever been by a Woolf book! Except maybe Flush, I guess.

I have just started on the new Roth.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hella disappointed by Flush. For one thing, I thought it was going to be from Flush's point of view.

(Which is not to say that I disagree with you, actually.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

South of the Border, West of the Sun - Haruki Murakami
The Freelance Writer's Handbook: How to Make Money and Enjoy Your Life - Andrew Crofts
Literary Translation: A Practical Guide - Clifford E. Landers
Ulysses - James Joyce
Handbook for Members and Visitors 2004 - The National Trust
Under the Volcano - Malcolm Lowry
The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching - Thich Nhat Hanah
No wonder I never finish anything.

-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...) (webmail), August 11th, 2004 11:54 AM. (PJ Miller)

I have attempted to do italics. I wonder if it will work.

I am disturbed to see that I have only finished one of these books, so far. I need to sort myself out. I don't think I'm going to finish The Line of Beauty either, at least not yet. It is very cumbersome in hardback.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ideally, one should come away from didion with more than a sense of how car parks in 20th century america worked.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure I did, but I've forgotten most of it over the fifteen years or so since then.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish that she had shared the recipe for sauerkraut that she mentions finding in one of her notebooks.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

joan didion - 'on keeping a notebook', 'john wayne, a love song', slouching towards bethlehem

the things she talks about in the way she talks about them, with that clean eye of hers is ahead of her time, I think. I was struck reading through the book, when I remembered that these are a bunch of 'immanent critiques', envois from the frontline - struck by how much her writing feels very modern, as if she was able to affect the feelings of disgust at & nostalgia for the sixties as she lived through them.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

did you like been down so long, nate?

Overall, yes. I found it very Pynchonesque, which is strange, since both he and Pynchon were at Cornell around the same time and even knew each other. There must have been something in the water, I guess.

I think the book is basically a thinly disguised roman a clef, as Pynchon says in the Introduction. Not knowing any of the real people behind the characters though, I still got a heady sense of what it must have been like to be on a college campus in the early 60s. Farina takes a lot of risks as a writer, and many of them pay off.

As for his attitude towards women, which you alluded to, I would say that it is conflicted, and I don't necessarily approve of it, but it's the psychology of the main character that he is trying to capture, and I think he does that.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

it's been years since i've read been down so long. what kind of risks do you think he took with his writing? from what i recall, it was bog-standard rugged bohemian individualist beat prose.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

struck by how much her writing feels very modern

it's an interesting contrast with tom wolfe. they covered similar issues, but wolfe's 60s/70s material seems so time-capsule dated in comparison.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of risks do you think he took with his writing?

Well, the loopy plot twists, the large cast of characters with odd names and even odder behavior, the blurring of the line between reality and hallucination, the hints at allegorical symbolism that never quite resolve - the writing at times seems as enamored of sophomoric hi-jinx as the sophomores it describes - which I think contributes to its effect. I think I wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much if I wasn't already a Pynchon fan. My mind would constantly find parallels between this book and the Pynchon oevre. For instance, when the gang carefully lifts Gnossos's enormous turd out of the toilet so they can have it preserved, one thinks of the similarly coprophiliac scene in Gravity's Rainbow when Slothrop dives into the toilet after the lost harmonica. I'm sure Freud would have something to say about the connection between these scenes and the mental age of the characters (and writers?)

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Rabbit, Run

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The first few pages had me thinking it was going to be some kind of suburban family depression drama. Then he takes off in the car and I'm like, yeah...and that's about as far as I've gotten so far.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Rabbit, Run is terrific, but even if you aren't totally in love with it, do go on to the others - I think they get better and better, and it may be my favourite tetralogy/trilogy or whatever - is there a general word to distinguish between a coherent series of novels with a beginning and end, like this or A La Recherche for instance, as opposed to a series like the 87th Precinct or Jeeves novels, which are plainly separate stories? I'm not convinced any of those that come to mind work.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i have given up on "Rabbit Run" 3 or 4 times now :(

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing I have learned from Joan Didion is that the band, The Doors, were not very good at making records.

I suppose I already knew that, in a way.

the bellefox, Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I finally finished the last book in Neal Stephenson's "Baroque Cycle." Slow, slower and slowest, but I don't fault him for that; I think he was making a deliberate distinction between the pace of life now and the pace of life 300 years ago, esp. effective since he was dealing with the same topics as in Cryptonomicon. Taking 3000 pages to tell a story he could have done in 400-500 is quite a feat of self-indulgence, but he does write purty.

I've started Friday Night Lights based on my wife's recommendation, but I'm not sure I want to deal with anything that "reveals America, warts and all" right now. I've had my fill of American showing me its misplaced priorities.

the apex of nadirs (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

did you receive your present, PF?

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, thank you. The quotations intrigue.

the bluefox, Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I only hope it works.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The disc? I think it does. Yet I have not heard it in full, yet.

Unless you meant something else.

the bluefox, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

You see, I can't remember Didion on The Doors.

Ahoy there, me hearties! I am reading Rites of Passage by William Golding. It makes me feel a bit seasick. I suppose this is quite clever.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 5 November 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Douglas Coupland - Eleanor Rigby. After Virginia Woolf, anything would be a pleasure. I think he just titles his books according to what's on the radio.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He's silly, isn't he?

Didion shows the Doors 'recording', ie. doing nothing. I suppose that illustrates the maxim 'First, do no harm'.

the bellefox, Friday, 5 November 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'm gonna start Music For Torching by A.M. Homes. I've only read In A Country Of Mothers (which i didn't really like, but that was before she got all transgressive and punk rock, right?) Anyway, I've had it laying around forever and it's not gonna read itself.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

'The Economist Guide to Financial Markets' is quite good. Sometimes I have to think quite hard. Grrrrr. I didn't finish 'The Line of Beauty'. It's not that I didn't like it, I just couldn't handle the whopping great hardback. 'Rites of Passage' is still good, I think I might finish it soon.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 8 November 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you handle, the paper-back?

the bellefox, Monday, 8 November 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Started and finished Fortress of Solitude over the weekend. Now I'm reading The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 November 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I will be able to handle the paperback, I think.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

'labyrinths'

'scots criminal law'

'the political unconscious'

'birds of america'

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the last of those.

I have a kind of affection for the penultimate.

I must respect the first.

The second, only you know.

the bellefox, Monday, 8 November 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Snow by Orhan Pamuk. Only 50 pages in and I love it. More descriptions of snow-covered towns in literature, please.

zan, Monday, 8 November 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

have you ever read Smilla's Sense Of Snow, Zan. It's like snow porn.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

... and also a great book.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, yes, the ultimate snow book. Course I have. Loved it. "Snow porn." I like that... I think I just have to stick to Russians and Scandanavians and I'll do all right in the snow department.

zan, Monday, 8 November 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

MJ Simpson's biography of Douglas Adams.

"School? Oh, you mean the thing going on in the background while I was listening to the Beatles?"

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved 'Music for Torching', scott.

I have gone madly middle-brow and am reading 'Notes on a Scandal' by Zoe Heller, 'The Taxi Driver's Daughter' by Julia Darling and 'Atonement' by Ian McEwan. I WAS reading 'Me Talk Pretty One Day' which I'd finally picked up in a charity shop, but alas it was in my bag which was stolen on Sunday :(

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Me Talk Pretty One Day.

Found it in a bag I nicked.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm back to the echoing grove. jonathan coe thinks this is lehmann's masterpiece, but i disagree. i still like dusty answer best.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

: /

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

... which means, I've been busy! mmm.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that funny, Mikey.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Atonement is quite good. Even, very good.

I am slowly reading Rumours of a Hurricane which I expected to be worse than it is.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"Not that funny, Mikey."

I know, I know. It's that mischevious streak surfacing again.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Atonement is potentially the most filmable of IM's novels, thinks I. I see Enduring Love has ballooned from the page and onto the silver screen.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I didn't specify that it was stolen violently, ie I was mugged, so I can't blame you really. Sorry.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Bernhard Thomas's The Dead Zone
Stephen King's Old Masters

I'm sort of scared by that bit where the old guy speaks for thirty pages about the subtle beauty of kicking a dog to death. I don't remember which of the books it's in though.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Not my M.O, Archel, I tend to prey on the elderly.

Seriously, how and where? I've been mugged before: Story here: http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/seven/2004_09_01_seven_archive.html (down the bottom somewhere)

I hope you're OK.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, what a terrible thing to happen.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

My mugger didn't have a knife, at least. He didn't really need one as he was about three times the size of me, not that it makes much difference. Fucker.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Where was this, Archel? Are you in the UK?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. It was in Lewes (small town in Sussex) at 3.45pm in broad daylight. It would be an understatement to say that I was not expecting it. However, let us not derail the thread...

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Lewes! Not down one of those steep tracks? Are you one of those lady types?

If it's any consolation, I was mugged twice in a week once. I know it isn't.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to Lewes in the summer. Evidently I was fortunate. I escaped unscathed.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Archel, sorry to be flippant. I hope you're not too shaken up about it all. God, Lewes.

Is nowhere safe?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I am a lady type, I would say. Female, anyhow. What were you doing in Lewes, PF? I used to live there and certainly came nowhere near to being scathed until now (although someone threw a brick through our window once, come to think of it). Funny that I will now feel less safe there than I do in the fairly rough patch of Brighton/Hove where I live.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I was visiting a colleague. I was shown around the town. It was charming: local pubs, beer, local brews in shops; also a youth club, ex-church, I think; and New and Old Town vibes.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i was mugged twice in one night once! beat that! the second batch tried to steal my hawkwind tape, but i wouldn't let them. i was so drunk i could barely walk though. i think i would have mugged me given the chance. glad you are okay, archel. it's a scary thing.

i'm really enjoying the Homes book. quite entertaining.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I was mugged in Oxford. At knifepoint. I've never really got over it. If I'm walking anywhere and hear someone running behind me, I always freeze inside.

There, you wanted to know that, didn't you? I hope you're ok, Archel.

And Rabin, if you're around, I do remember that ages ago you asked me for specific examples of Bill Bryson's patronising attitude because you always thought that he loved Britain. I agree that he does, but he seems to love it in spite of all its funny little ways. I can't be more specific than that because I donated the book after I read it, I just don't like him. I do remember him making several inaccurate statements about the Irish language, which really annoyed me for two reasons. One, I found it kind of patronising, and two, if he can't be bothered to be right about that, how do I know he's right about the things I don't know?

I finished reading Jonathan Lethem's The Fortress of Solitude, and I really recommend it. I thought it was great.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Bone: One Complete Volume by Jeff Smith
American Jesus: How the Son of God Became a National Icon by Stephen Prothero

Jessa (Jessa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this thread should be changed to 'What are you reading and when were you mugged.'

I feel sorry fo Scott's mugger. A Hawkwind tape! What poor spoils.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I am sorry about the bag.

I am still reading 'Rites of Passage'. I don't like it much. I would like to read a jolly book. Can anyone recommend a jolly book?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The sad thing, Mikey, was having to explain to the second batch of muggers that I didn't have any money because I had already been mugged! I had to get really specific and tell them WHERE I had been mugged in order to sound convincing. I actually apologized to them for having no money. But probably saddest of all: I acually ran after the first batch of muggers (i ran around the block to cut them off at the pass) and they told me to go home and get some sleep.

Years later I was mugged in the snow and it was much more frightening for some reason. I was walking home and a car stopped in the middle of the street and a guy ran out of the car and up to me. He grabbed me and went thru my pockets. He pulled out a couple of dollars, looked at them, and then threw them on the snowy ground in disgust. I am such a disappointment to the criminals of the world.

I'm flying through that Homes book. It would make a great movie. But maybe the whole American Beauty/David Lynch tearing-the-curtains-off-of-suburbia thing has been done to death by now. (and yet, i watch Desperate Housewives every week. So, apparently I haven't gotten enough yet.) Nothing will probably ever beat the tag-team of Alfred Hitchcock & Thornton Wilder & Shadow Of A Doubt anyway.

I might finally read some Peter Carey next. I've got Jack Maggs & The Tax Inspector. Which should I read first? hmmmmmm......

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

PJ, have you ever read any Peter DeVries? He is very jolly. You might have to go to the library or a used-bookstore though. Most of his stuff is shamefully out of print. I also heartily recommend Norwood by Charles Portis. A hoot & a half!

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone at our book group picked this last night:

Fighting Fantasy: Deathtrap Dungeon - Ian Livingstone

We have to bring dice to our next meeting. We'll probably get beaten up discussing it. And rightly so.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, I will look for those jolly books.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

hrabal's i served the king of england isn't exactly a laugh riot, but i think it comes under the jolly umbrella.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Susan had a difficult birth with her third child and renounced her belief in God as a result. This story is confirmed by her children, Faith, Hope & Brenda.

Paraphrased from Jonathan Coe - What a Carve Up.

Jolly, what?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I am now reading 'A Working Stiff's Manifesto: A Memoir Of Thirty Jobs I Quit, Nine That Fired Me, And Three I Can't Remember' by Iain Levison.

I've never been mugged, though I've twice had a purse stolen from my bag, and that was bad enough.

Mog, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

My lady and I were holidaying in Spain a couple of years ago. This gypsy fucker ran off with her bag. Being a hero, I chased him until the unwashed greasy loser pulled a knife. I was yelling 'Thief' and 'Police' as he emptied her bag onto the floor and totally missed her purse. Instead he made off with another purse shaped like a bull.

We told the police and found his mug shot on what I can only describe as a gypsy thief database.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i was mugged at gunpoint. do i win the horrible oneupmanship prize?

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess. Though the Hawkwind tape is a decent contender.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i think my prize should be a hawkwind tape. preferably in search of space.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Was your incident in the US, Lauren?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yup. brooklyn, ny.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we should start an ILB vigilante group. Like a better read Charles Bronson.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

We can throw heavy books at them.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

My friend was robbed at gunpoint working at White Castle, and then the thief went outside and took off his skimask (balaclava), forgetting about the camera at the drive up window. So Lauren wins free White Castle too.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, did I fail to mention that my muggers had a gun?

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I also didn't have any money on me at the time. It was after spending several hours with my ex at a club and feeling generally depressed (I can't stand clubs), and heading back to the car with my ex and the guy he picked up.

Then we got mugged. My ex didn't end up scoring. Which, I suppose, was OK -- the guy went back to Iowa or wherever, kept in touch with my ex, and eventually admitted he was HIV+.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

my muggers had a gun.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

a man walks by on crutches.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the clarification on Bryson, accentmonkey. I can just see that. I'm always here, just not always posting. Currently rereading Margery Allingham's Albert Campion mysteries in between tear-filled bouts with Frank's What's the Matter with Kansas?

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Friday, 12 November 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Almost Everyone's Guide to Science by John Gribbin.

Kevan, Friday, 12 November 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

just started Philip Roth's "The Plot Against America" and I'm already hooked. recently finished "The Glass Cell" by Patricia Highsmith (not her best) and "Free Culture" by Lawrence Lessig (better than expected).

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Friday, 12 November 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked up the 3rd volume of Lord of the Rings. I read the first two books a couple of years back. I got ten pages in. Gandalf was saying 'Nay' a fair bit. There were dark shadows across silly sounding places. I thought stick it up your bollocks, Gandalf and decided to read something decent.

I couldn't find anything decent, so I'm reading Harry Pooter No.5

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 12 November 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Only love is real by Dr. Brian Weiss.

Fred (Fred), Friday, 12 November 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Harry Pooter, Mikey? Is he some parpy wizard then?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 12 November 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I cast a mispell.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 12 November 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

reading: By The Lake by John McGahern. Will get to Peter Carey later.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Coming to the end of 'Rites of Passage' now. I was very wrong to biggie it down, it's great. I put it down to illness. Don't read it if you're ill.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 12 November 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

reading: By The Lake by John McGahern. Will get to Peter Carey later.

Did anyone else remember to send John McGahern a birthday card yesterday? No? Just me then.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

no, i would have sent him one if i had known. and a bottle of Powers as well.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I decided to stay in Ireland after reading the McGahern book, so today I read Flann O'Brien's The Hard Life (Father Fahrt is now in my hall of fame for character names). Now I'm off to Russia. I'm gonna read Andrei Makine's Confessions of a Fallen Standard-Bearer(about childhood in Soviet Russia.).

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 15 November 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

200 pages into Harry Potter No.5. And he's only just got back to Hogwarts. Over 500 pages left too.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i finished random family. it's fairly heartbreaking. i don't think i'm going to finish the echoing grove, for the time being. now what?

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

While everyone's bringing up mugging, a bag was stolen from my car complete with my 1/3 finished copy of Fortress of Solitude. I bought a paperback version recently though and I'm close to done.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 15 November 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I once had my wallet stolen while i was in a bookshop, i only realised when i had to make the payment :(
I'm reading 'mating season' by wodehouse :)

Fred (Fred), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy O'Toole.

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished "The Shadow of the Wind" by Carlos Ruiz Zafón, which I loved. Engrossing and well-written, with a satisfying resolution. I picked it up due to the raves here - so thanks, ILB!

Now starting "A Mighty Heart" by Mariane Pearl, the biography about her husband Danny, the Wall Street Journal reporter kidnapped & killed in Pakistan.

Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Kings of Infinite Space, by James Hynes (I think) about a fallen Professor now temping in a dead-end job in Texas, and his battle against the Morlocks of the world.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 15 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It is slightly odd that I have been on this thread a lot, though, or when, I don't read a lot - that is, a lot of different books.

DEATHTRAP DUNGEON is ace.

I have never been mugged. I live in South London, sometimes, see.

Cozen, we have to talk about Sean O'Brien, again, I think.

the bellefox, Monday, 15 November 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished the Makine book. Lovely, really. I'm staying in Russia. Gonna read Issac Babel's Collected Stories.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Cold Domain by Anne Fine. The last time it was borrowed from the library was in 2003, I noticed. Probably because the cover is really ugly.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I am listening to Chopin. Genius, I suspect. At least I think it's Chopin. Must check out more boss tracks.

I am reading 'who is the? bring back the... who isThe Prince by Machiavelli. For a nosy parker it's an interesting book. I am also reading the Sunday papers.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I almost picked up my o'brien book from the shelf. I might just do that later.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I read 'The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night-Time' in the last couple of days. A lovely little book.

Next, I've got 'Something Happened', 'The Maltese Falcon', Mezz Mezzrow's 'Really The Blues' and Ackroyd's 'Hawksmoor' to choose from.

Mog, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Out of those I've only read 'Something Happened' and I'd recommend choosing that next if you want to be depressed out of your wits. Excellent though.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

go for Something Happened.

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Something Happened it is, then!

Mog, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

For a man who wrote one of the funniest books ever, I'm amazed he had the intellect (breadth of experience?) to follow it with one of the most depressing.

I guess the easy answer is the war.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i found at swim-two-birds. it was under the bed. 50 pages left to go.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Those are good.

the finefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

So are the other ones.

the finefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I have FINISHED Under the Volcano. A top-notch read.

I got a book by Ian 'not Kenny' Sansom. It's about babies and I got it from the charity shop.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I have seen that book.

It's really good!

the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to read that! If you feel like passing it on at a later date, you know where to send it... :)

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ian sansom is roundly excellent in the LRB.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

He's not at his absolute best on Anthony Powell, though, is he? Are you thinking of something else, maybe more recent?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(= last 2 issues? I doubt it.)

the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Silent Cry by Kenzaburo Oe
The Essential Tomb Of Dracula Volume 3
Japan: The Informal Contained by Christopher Tadgell (about architecture)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Guns, Germs, and Steel, but I'm not happy about it. My eye keeps sliding down the page as though as I was reading a text book. I don't know if I want to finish it. At this rate I'll be lucky to finish 50 books by the end of the year, and that was my resolution from last year.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked up the first book on the first shelf of my poetry shelving. It was a selected Appolinaire. I read some and thouht it was pretty bad. So I moved on to the next one, which was the collected Oppen. (They're in a whimsical order.) I read some of the later stuff, which I also thought was pretty meh. I'll go back to that first book of his later tonight, perpahs -- I remember liking that.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Rebecca by Daphne Du Maurier

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Crime and Punishment

Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm taking a break from The Selfish Gene to read Easy Riders, Raging Bulls by Peter Biskind, which is really trashy and fast, I read like half of it yesterday, but since it's going so fast, maybe I'll be able to get back into The Selfish Gene afterwords without having forgotten anything. I hope.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I've liked everything I've read of his in the LRB, pf, including the last two issues' issue.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

what did he have to say about anthony powell?

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I just re-read it any he says similar things of him that he said of john fowle (?), unflattering remarks about snobbishness of readership, the stuffiness of his more didact musing on Time and Place, the lightness and coherence of the world he created, &c. he I'm not sure why pf doesn't like the article, though I know nothing about powell and this may be blinding me to some of its obvious deficiences.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

goodness, I need an editor.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Fowles?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I don't think he's busy, maybe he'll edit you, Coz.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

unflattering remarks about snobbishness of readership, the stuffiness of his more didact musing on Time and Place, the lightness and coherence of the world he created

oh, no. that's bad and untrue and and all that. roundly terrible.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 18 November 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true, Cozen's paragraph was terrible; perhaps deliberately.

But Cozen, no, the piece was not terrible, at all. It was good - just didn't hit a new height, for such a good writer. He is good on readers, I guess; and I like the line from Edmund Wilson about reading in summer, and all that. Very Michael Wood.

the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

it is bad to hate and attack powell.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I got 'At Lady Molly's' from the library, but I didn't read it. One day, perhaps.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

He doesn't hate and attack Powell! He says he's marvellous and everyone should read him!

There was a great piece on Powell by Michael Wood in 2000 or so, but that's another story, or at least, another review.

PJM: here's a funny thing: today I took THE LINE OF BEAUTY back to the library, not having got past p.1, and must pay a 70p fine! It's a good thing I didn't delay returning it even longer.

the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

ok. i'm totally confused. i had picked up the impression that the article under discussion is anti-powell.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

A taste of Mickey W:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v23/n03/wood01_.html

the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, just a taste.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole shebang!

Reviewers are always sternly instructed to check page proofs against finished copies of books, and I do, I will. But the proofs of Anthony Powell's A Writer's Notebook provide, along with numerous unimportant oddities of phrase and spelling which seem to be errors of transcription from script to voice to type to print ('I would like to thank my wife, who read the manuscript book onto tape, and also Helen Gould, who typed it'), one lovely new alignment which ought not to be allowed simply to vanish into its own correction. It's good to get things right, but we don't have to rush it. Powell's A Dance to the Music of Time has 12 volumes, of which the tenth is called Books Do Furnish a Room; he wrote two further, later novels, not in the sequence, called O How the Wheel Becomes It and The Fisher King. The Powell offered to us here, in the pre-title list of his books, is the author of a nine-volume sequence of novels called A Dance to the Music of Time, and a further four-volume sequence called Books to Furnish a Room.

The attraction of the slip is manifold. It is just the kind of thing that would happen within a Powell novel. It would be followed by various comic complications, intricate embarrassments, sundry opportunities for adultery or switches of sexual allegiance, and might involve a politician or two. It would go 'rackety', to use a favourite Powell word. In his Journals he mentions 'rackety parties', 'the rackety side of life' (this in connection with Scott Fitzgerald), a 'somewhat rackety woman', and a character at the Oxford of Philip Larkin's novel Jill is said to be 'an aggressively rackety minor-public-school undergraduate'. 'Rackety types have a link with people of the intellect,' Powell writes in his notebook, and his novels are full of quite unintellectual types, usually women, who have this link. They fall for, or hang out with, composers, writers, singers, painters, get involved in little magazines or dubious publishing houses. The link, presumably, is a certain freedom from what's expected; but the rackety types are a lot freer than the intellectuals, and they notch up love affairs of a kind the intellectuals can only dream of.

The slip also points us directly to the title of the tenth volume in the sequence of novels, and to Powell's continuing preoccupation with reading or the lack of it. The phrase is the nickname of one Lindsay Bagshaw, a shabby but not disagreeable literary operator, who brings out some of Powell's best comic writing. Bagshaw has been taken as a representation of Malcolm Muggeridge, a connection which Powell, in his Journals, first denies then half accepts. Well, perhaps he just denies intending it. 'This too never intended,' he notes - the other connection he is refusing is that of the fictional don Sillery with the historical Maurice Bowra. But then Powell adds that rereading his own novels 'brought Malcolm to mind more than once in case of Bagshaw, quite involuntary on my part'. Bagshaw is 'not in the front rank of literary critics', indeed we are told 'there might have been difficulty in squeezing him into an already overcrowded and grimacing back row,' but he is a survivor, possessed of a 'wheedling, self-deprecatory manner', which has 'procured him a wide variety of jobs, extracted him from equally extensive misadventures'. 'His movements,' we learn, when the narrator, after many years of not seeing him, catches sight of Bagshaw on a railway platform, 'suggested hope to avoid recognition, while a not absolutely respectable undertaking was accomplished.' There are two stories about how he came by his nickname. In one, Bagshaw is drunk, and, seeking to verify a quotation from Palgrave's Golden Treasury, pulls over a vast bookcase on himself. As the many volumes fall on him, he is said to have commented: 'Books do furnish a room.' In the other story, he is about to sleep with the wife of a well-known drama critic - the chap himself is away at the first night of The Apple Cart - and glancing around the critic's booklined study, and demonstrating what the erring lady took to be an extreme lack of sensibility, he is supposed to have remarked: 'Books do furnish a room.' The narrator thinks neither story is likely to be true, but that makes the nickname all the more irresistible. Drink, sex and scholarship point to one end. Bagshaw knows that books are not furniture, but his jokes and his career suggest an easy understanding of all the people who can't imagine what else books would be.

Powell himself would probably have been amused by the slip on the pre-title page, since he shares Bagshaw's perception of the place, if not the value, of books in the social world. Most of the characters in the novels themselves are the reverse of great readers. 'Books,' we are told, 'were by no means the first interest' of Sir Magnus Donners, the industrialist. That is putting the matter mildly, although it is true that when he thought he was dying, Sir Magnus set himself 'to read the best - only the best - of all literatures, English, French, German, Italian, Scandinavian'. Even then, of course, he left a few literatures out, and when he learned the doctors had got the diagnosis wrong, he just 'went back to making money, governing the country, achieving all-time records in utterance of conversational cliché', as the narrator's friend Moreland phrases it. There is also Bill Truscott, tipped for greatness when he was a young man, who turns with age into a stodgy civil servant, and tells the narrator: 'I never read novels nowadays.' Perhaps remembering his old reputation for sophistication, or in the narrator's fussy but very funny phrasing, 'possibly thinking that admission . . . suggested a too headlong falling off from what had once been an all-embracing intellectual coverage', he then corrects himself. 'That is, you understand, I don't find much time, with so many things going on - as we all have - of course, I fully intend . . . and naturally . . .' A few years later, the narrator, himself a novelist, is seated at dinner next to a woman who says brightly: 'I'm afraid I haven't read any of your books. I believe you write books, don't you? I hope you won't mind that.' Not much he can do if he does mind, and he mildly tells us he is 'in the process of picking out one of the several routine replies designed to bridge this not at all uncommon conversational opening' when a rackety interruption dispenses with all need to respond. But he certainly could have found, among the routine replies, a remark about books furnishing a room.

Powell's Notebook is not a journal (he published two volumes of journals, as well as four volumes of memoirs, and the two novels I have mentioned, after he finished A Dance to the Music of Time), but a slender, concentrated gathering, over a very long time, of phrases and names and jokes and ideas. Powell himself says he doesn't know when he started it, but, taking his cue from the early appearance of a name which surfaces in his first novel, Afternoon Men, supposes the date must have been around 1930. On the last page, the phrase 'Under Review' is offered as a possible title, and since Powell published a collection of criticism called that in 1991, the closing date might be around 1990 or a little before. A Dance to the Music of Time was published between 1951 (A Question of Upbringing) and 1975 (Hearing Secret Harmonies). Powell was born in 1905 and died in 2000.

Powell comments in the Notebook on 'Henry James's inability to invent good proper names' - the inability may more properly belong to our culture, since James took a lot of his names straight from the Times - and certainly suffers from no such inability himself. 'Drawbridge, a butler', he writes. 'Blackhead, a civil servant'. 'Stringham . . . Roderick . . . Watkin . . . Tokenhouse'. But then we might remember that Powell borrowed the name of Widmerpool, his lamentably, pompously comic recurring character, from a Cromwellian captain of horse. Powell says in his introduction that 'increasingly, throughout the Notebook, Shakespeare became my companion, his point of view ever more congenial.' This sounds pretty grand, even Widmerpoolish, and it's a pleasure to report that what Powell gets out of Shakespeare, on the evidence of the Notebook, is mainly a series of wonderful anachronistic jokes, as when he recalls the character in Antony and Cleopatra (Scarus), who says just before the battle for Alexandria that he has 'yet room for six scotches more'. The OED gives 'incision, cut, score or gash' as the first meaning for 'scotch', and cites this passage. Powell also notes that Sonnets 74, 77 and 82 indicate that 'the Young Man was a reviewer.' The indicative phases are: 'When thou reviewest this, thou dost review/The very part was consecrate to thee'; 'The vacant leaves thy mind's imprint will bear,/And of this book this learning mayst thou taste'; 'The dedicated words which writers use/Of their fair subject, blessing every book'.

There are certainly lumpy and blinkered moments in the Notebook. 'One of the basic human rights is to make fun of people,' Powell says. 'It is now threatened.' It's a pleasure to make fun of people, and it's good to be able to take it. But it looks more like a privilege than a right. Not all of Powell's joke are hilarious ('he had taken an aegrotat in the university of life'; 'one touch of Nietzsche makes the whole world kin'; 'those whom the sods love die young'), but it seems hard to demand a perfect score from a notebook, and many of the jokes manage to be both obvious and oblique ('a male prostitute called samphire, because he was a "dreadful trade"'; 'I saw them coming up the street together looking like Culture and Anarchy'; 'did Tiny Tim not die at all, but grew up to join the firm of Scrooge and Marley and become like Tiny Rowland?'). A 'Jubilee Ode' for the Queen runs:

Though she may not ponder Borges
When she's cutting meat for corgis
At least a dozen answer to her helm
And in visiting a Naafi
She rarely quotes Cavafy
She's an expert on the bloodstock of her realm.

There are pithy phrases of the kind one imagines notebooks are designed for (but rarely contain): 'an author who allows himself a good deal of platitude'; 'it's too late now to die young'; 'the beauties of yesterday become muttering, mad old women.'

All this is entertaining, but I don't think we can claim it's revealing. There are thoughts here of the kind one imagines novelists storing up for themselves or their characters, but not many of them. A reflection on large families ('I am an only child, accordingly there has always seemed to me something sinister about large families') finds its way into the narrator's mind in At Lady Molly's. An idea about reading ('reading novels demands almost as much talent as writing them') is given to the writer X. Trapnel in Books Do Furnish a Room. The closest we get to an insight about what drives or organises the fiction is perhaps this remark: 'a great deal of individual success in life is based on not having the slightest idea of what other people are like.' We might back it up by this apparently unrelated comment: 'the English, unlike the Americans or even continentals, never really believe in the existence of the world around them.' Not knowing what other people are like, which may go with not knowing what we ourselves are like - 'self-love is so often unrequited,' Powell says in another jotting - allows us to ignore all kinds of differences and obstacles, while not believing in the existence of the world around us allows us to trample on and even steal whole chunks of it without thinking it real enough to suffer loss or damage. A version of empire, familiar enough in its domestic or intimate instances, too. But ignorance and error will only take us so far, and they can bring with them, in Powell's fiction and in lived history, colossal and frequently comic comeuppances. 'Success in life', for Powell the novelist, is an object of curiosity, a form of social behaviour to be tracked with interest, but always from a distance, and none of his more reflective characters, however fully achieved their art or thought or career, could be called 'a success'. The very idea usually produces its counter-image immediately, like the sight of the only manuscript of Trapnel's novel floating in the Regent's Park Canal, where his mistress has dumped it. 'Do you know what all that mass of paper looks like,' Trapnel says, lucid although very drunk. 'A manuscript. Probably someone's first novel. Authors always talk of burning their first novel. I believe this one's drowned his.' Then he fishes the book out of the water and realises it is his. 'I never thought of this,' he says. 'I never thought she'd destroy my book.' The narrator comments: 'He stood there, still smiling slightly, almost as if he were embarrassed by what had happened.' This is the revenge of the rackety on the very idea of success, and we realise that for Powell it's not only successful people who haven't the slightest idea of what other people are like. Or rather we do have the slightest idea, but only the slightest. Its slightness is our undoing.

In A Dance to the Music of Time, Powell has his narrator, Nicholas Jenkins, talk constantly, and rather ploddingly, of pattern and design. The very title, with its glance at Poussin, evokes rhythm and return, and the novels are devoted to coincidence, both as a sort of realism of the improbable - an implied claim that actual life has more coincidences than most fiction allows itself - and as a structuring principle, which Powell himself calls a convention and a convenience. 'Life continued in its mysterious, patterned way,' Jenkins says when he comes across Widmerpool in a quite new context after not seeing him for some time, but it's not at all clear that life does anything of the sort, even in Powell's novels. A little later, Jenkins tries to find 'some parallel, however far-fetched', between Widmerpool and the retired General Conyers (a man who holds the theory 'that poodles, owing to their keen natural intelligence, could profitably be trained as gun dogs' - the next we hear of him he is 'indisposed' after falling 'headlong from the stable loft where the poodles' food was stored'). Jenkins says he is 'hoping to construct one of those formal designs in human behaviour which for some reason afford an obscure satisfaction to the mind: making the more apparent inconsistencies of life easier to bear'. This is pretty vague, but it's clear that Jenkins would like to find the designs he is forced extravagantly to construct, and that life's patterned way, when it is not a convenience, is a consolatory fantasy.

The more you read Powell, the more ironic the title of his sequence becomes. Characters do disappear and return, like figures in a dance; although some of them just disappear, as several of them shockingly do in a bombing raid in The Soldier's Art. But when they return, their situation or behaviour usually mocks the very idea of pattern or prediction, and Jenkins remarks on his own bafflement even more frequently than he remarks on the dance effect. 'One never learns to expect the obvious,' he says. 'To be told something that comes as a surprise, then find everyone has known about it for ages, is no uncommon experience.' By the end of the sequence it's clear that only someone like the unctuous and obnoxious Canon Paul Fenneau is still talking about the music of time: 'To those familiar with the rhythm of living there are few surprises in this world.' To everyone else, there is scarcely anything except surprises. Jenkins even manages, while on military service during the war, to visit Cabourg, Proust's Balbec, without knowing he has been there until he has left, and is provoked to characteristic musings. His 'faint sense of disappointment' is 'in its way suitably Proustian too': 'a reminder of the eternal failure of human life to respond 100 per cent; to rise to the greatest heights without allowing at the same time some suggestion, however slight, to take shape in indication that things could have been even better.'

Prose like this, of course, is what makes Powell unreadable for many, and Jenkins's own regular apologies for his bumbling don't help a great deal. He sees himself as indulging in 'rather banal reflections', and has no illusions about the 'subtlety' of his 'speculations'. His 'professional reflections', he says at one point, are 'at best subjective, at worst intolerably tedious'. But then this just means his impersonation of a bore is at times so perfect as to be indistinguishable from the real thing, and I don't think anything at all can be said in defence of sentences like: 'In a writer's life, as time shortens, work tends to predominate, among other things resulting in a reduction of attendance at large conjunctions of people.' Fewer parties, in other words. And Jenkins's discretion about his private life is downright pathological. 'With the age of 30 in sight a sense of guilt in relation to that subject makes itself increasingly felt.' 'That subject' is marriage: the passive mood hides what it's supposed to hide, but also reveals that a lot of hiding is going on. The following instance is even stranger, because it begins in the first person and slithers off into generalised allegory: 'I was then at the time of life when one has written a couple of novels, and moved from a firm that published art books to a company that produced second-feature films.' Oh, that time of life. Trying to make the individual self disappear, Jenkins succeeds only in absurdly universalising it.

In his Journals 1987-89, where he reports on a rereading of the whole of A Dance to the Music of Time, Powell says he thinks the work is 'as far from A la recherche in one direction as from The Forsyte Saga in another'. At times it seems even further from any lived human life than it is from either. But Powell goes on to distinguish himself from Waugh and the resort to farce. This is helpful, and we are left, those of us who keep reading Powell and keep quietly laughing, with a sense of discreet comedy which needs further definition. In Books Do Furnish a Room Jenkins comments on a distinction Burton makes between satire and comedy: he calls it an 'antithesis'. On the last page of the last volume Jenkins quotes Burton again, this time distinguishing between 'comical' and 'tragical matters'. Of course comedy often slips into tragedy, satire or farce, and a good thing too. But Powell's 'tone' - a term he uses often and a compositional element he worries about a lot - rests on the maintenance of a comedy which doesn't slip, or slips only into pallor, not into another genre. He allows himself, to borrow his own phrase, a good deal of platitude, but that's not all there is.

Stealth and obliquity are essential to Powell's style. 'Without making excessive claims for Sir Bertram's imperturbability, or good humour, one could see that it took more than an excited elderly man . . . socially to discompose him these days.' This may mean that the irascible and unpleasant Sir Bertram has acquired a little self-control, or has traded his bad temper for pompousness, or just got old and tired, but what's funny is the (wild) idea of making excessive claims for his imperturbability or good humour - one has only to think of them to see that any claims at all would be out of place. We can find effects like these everywhere in Powell: in an image like that of 'the unbelievably inexpert adjustment' of a soldier's false teeth - horrors of dentistry lurk in the formal phrasing - or that of certain British officers, failing to live up to Marshal Lyautey's requirement of 'gaiety' in a military man, who 'had to be admitted to fall unequivocally short in that respect'. 'Unbelievably inexpert' and 'unequivocally short' look like simple periphrasis; like 'large conjunctions of people', or 'a sense of guilt in relation to that subject'. But they are periphrasis as irony rather than avoidance; like sentences in Jane Austen, they take you back to the issues they pretend to abandon.

A characteristic experience in reading Powell is laughing two sentences too late - not because you've only just got the joke (there isn't a joke), but because the comic implications of the earlier sentence were so beautifully disguised in bumbling. When Charles Stringham, a friend of Jenkins, mentions his time at Oxford, he does so with flamboyant understatement: 'I explained . . . that my own college days had been among the most melancholic of a life not untinged by shadow.' When Jenkins himself offers the same sentiment, he manages to sound like Dr Johnson rewriting Salad Days:

Reverting to the university at forty, one immediately recaptured all the crushing melancholy of the undergraduate condition. As the train drew up at the platform, before the local climate had time to impair health, academic contacts disturb the spirit, a more imminent gloom was re-established, its sinewy grip in a flash making one young again.

Everything is closely placed here: the word 'reverting', the balanced clauses, the 'sinewy grip', and the startling equation of youth with misery. Powell makes us laugh by turning upside down what we took to be the truth. And at his best, he makes us laugh again, because the upside down version now looks a little truer than the other one.

Another characteristic reading experience, which occurs largely at the level of the chapters rather than the sentences, is being ready to laugh a little too soon. Powell structures his novels through set-pieces, usually social occasions, elaborately prepared, and then wrecked by a ludicrous (or occasionally disastrous) interruption. The effect is not farcical but it is, most of the time, comic. We know the interruption is coming, we even know it's likely to involve Widmerpool, but we don't know how, and we are already amused by the waiting. A funeral starts in a country church, for example:

Rain was pouring down in steely diagonals across the gravestones. Within the medieval building, large for a country church, the temperature was lower than in the open, the interior like a wintry cave . . . There was a longish, rather nerve-wracking wait, emphasised by much coughing and clearing of throats. Then came manifestations from the porch.

'Manifestations' is one of Powell's carefully unspecific words. We don't know what they are yet, or who's producing them, but we do know they will be rackety and funny. And we know, or hope for, something else. We expect the interruption not only to break up the formal occasion, but to enhance it or confirm it in some way, fill it out, just as Powell's best sentences make the upside down version of the truth look truer. In this instance the interruption comes from Widmerpool and five other people, first having an argument outside the church and then 'advancing up the aisle in diamond formation'. They are the ragged and various remnants of the dead man's life in publishing and politics, a sort of disgraceful moving tableau of his past. A little earlier, Powell evokes a previous funeral in the same place, where a party of German prisoners of war improbably wandered across the churchyard, 'forming a rough-and-ready, unknowing guard of honour' to the just buried corpse, which happened to be that of a war hero. Jenkins's speculations here do not abandon his cautious and middle-winded idiom, but they do offer a full-blown theory of what Powell thinks is happening when we seem to hear the music of time.

As so often on such occasions, the sharp contrast between life and death was emphasised by one of those incongruous incidents that seem to bear on the character or habits of the deceased. So far from diminishing the nature of the ceremony, their aptness often increases its intensity, bypassing, so to speak, ingenuities of ritual and music, bridging with some peculiar fitness the gulf presented to the imagination by the fact of death. The sensibilities are brought up with a start to accept what has happened by action or scene, outwardly untimed, inwardly apposite.

Untimed and apposite. Lacking 'formal design' or anything resembling a 'mysterious, patterned way', life in Powell's novels, and indeed often outside them, manages to provide a comic and moving commentary on itself, because unscripted chance can behave like a writer, and because the imagination, desperate or just idle, is haunted by the idea of aptness, which others have called a rage for order. Taking Shakespeare's scotches as our Scotches begins to look less like a lamentable if wonderful joke, and more like a miniature instance of how far we are ready to go for our untimed music.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

As Desmond Lynam almost used to say on a long-discontinued programme... How does he do that?

(He = JtN, not MW.)

(Must reread this shebang; I recall it as being quite marvellous.)

the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yay!

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

'It's too late now to die young'!

the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Rhyming 'Corgis' with 'Borges'... well you have to admire his cheek.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

'pithy phrases of the kind one imagines notebooks are designed for (but rarely contain)'

I would like to reply: huh, he should see my notebooks - but no, it would not convince.

the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I am sorry, about the fine. Just think about all the people you denied the opportunity of reading it while it was hot stuff, that should make the unexpected outlay less painful.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

that's not the article on powell I read!

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

now I'm confused.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It's different, Cozen: Sansom and Wood are different.

Are we going to discuss your CD, or SO'B, or whatever, some time?

the bellefox, Friday, 19 November 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am still stuck in 'Augie March' and thinking of abandoning 'The Ambassadors'. As a distraction, I flicked through a borrowed copy of 'Yellow Dog' yesterday - and it seems even worse than I had feared.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have to read SO'B or listen to the CD but whatever I can do spontaneously.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing that matters, today? It's now bad a guy is.

the bellefox, Friday, 19 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

JtN, it sounds like your distraction was unwelcome. The idea of it being EVEN WORSE THAN FEARED is ... frightful.

Cozen, I want to send you something again, today, I mean, something else, today. I will try to remember to do it. It's not something that I did mesel.

About the CD, though, Cozen -- odd! ?

the bellefox, Friday, 19 November 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You know - we should start a new thread, maybe?

the bellefox, Friday, 19 November 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

if you think it's that important.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 19 November 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought that Ian Sansom book about babies was just horrible.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading Andrew Holleran's Dancer from the Dark. It makes an interesting companion piece to Tim Lawrence's Love Save the Day (which wasn't too bad)

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Recently finished Tom Wolfe's "A Man In Full" after having it sit on my bookshelf for years. Mostly well written but with possibly the clumsiest plot devices I've ever encountered. Oh, and the attempts at 'homies' rapping were cringeworthy in the extreme.

Currently reading The Minority Report (collected shorts by Philip K Dick). Mostly straightforward sci-fi but with the odd bit of PKD weirdness. The most disappointing PKD work I've read since the "Early Novels" collection.

No idea what's next.I might try Archie McPherson's Jock Stein biog.

Must remember ILB exists, I forget to come in here for months at a time.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 20 November 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

'A Man in Full' is the literary equivalent of the Tardis. I swear to god it just got bigger and bigger as I was reading, I thought it would never end.

I'm reading Lawrence Block, of whom I believe Martin is a fan. I'm not sure yet that I can truly enjoy the work of someone who'd call a book 'The Cancelled Czech', but it's early days...

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 November 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading 'Diary of a Nobody' but I've lost it! It is/was jolly.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 22 November 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Maggie Gee - The Ice People.

Set in the ha ha, 'near future'.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 22 November 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

nathaniel west's collected, found for £2.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

that's a great find.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night, in a further distraction from James, Henry and Bellow, Saul, I read Catherine Lupton's new book about Chris Marker.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the French film person?

I still can't find Diary of a Nobody.

Guide to Financial Markets is very good though.

Unlike The Independent, but that is a newspaper.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm reading Lethem's "Gun, With Occasional Music" and I'm starting to think that "Motherless Brooklyn" was a fluke because this is now the 4th Lethem that I've read but MB was the only one I truly and completely enjoyed.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes Archel, I'm a big Block fan - as is Pete.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 22 November 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I'll be joining your ranks, sadly. He lost me at the Nazi nymphomaniac.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm also reading 'The Only Good Thing Anyone Has Ever Done' by Sandra Newman. I can't decide if the style is off-putting or exciting, yet.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I have been reunited with The Diary of a Nobody. It really is splendid, much better than Three Men in a Boat, I think.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking of giving The Only Good Thing Anyone Has Ever Done a read. Tell me how's it when you finish it Rachel.

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Will do!

I just this minute got a poetry book in the mail - The Brink by Jacob Polley - so I'll be dipping in and out of that now too.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to admit I'm struggling with 'Something Happened'. I'm on page 154 and so far it's so unremittingly glum that it's hard to want to carry on reading. Perhaps it's best read in the summer months - I have the feeling that if I carry on much more, I'll end up throwing myself in front of a bus.

Mog, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Omg! I agree that it's a depressing book, but then, it's so funny too :-s

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And it gets even worse at the end! A great book, I think.

Sorry you didn't like Block, Archel!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I've started Life of Pi. Rebecca was interesting.

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Rebecca is great. Hitchcock bottled the ending with the film.

Norman Lewis - The Tomb in Seville (about a journey made in 1934 when Primo de Rivera was agitating for a fight.)

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

JUDE: THE OBSCURE!

John (jdahlem), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Mick Foley's 'Mankind: Have A Nice Day'.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I kind of bailed on Light in August - I read Bulgakov's unfinished theater novel Black Snow instead. It made me want to read more by him, esp. Master and Margarita.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

no wonder - you should only read faulkner in the heat of the heart of summer. i thought everyone knew this?

John (jdahlem), Friday, 26 November 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jefferson's "Notes on the State of Virginia".

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 November 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Orwell - Coming Up For Air.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 27 November 2004 08:53 (twenty years ago)

I've tried to get into that a few times, with little luck.

From the Jefferson:

"Such is the economy of nature, that no instance can be produced of her having permitted any one race of her animals to become extinct; of her having formed any link in her great work so weak as to be broken."

(Actually he spells it "œconomy".)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 27 November 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Too busy writing to actually get any reading done, as currently stands, but I've a backlog of poetry magazines to catch up on when I'm done. After which I think I'll treat myself to re-reading Mason and Dixon before I start anything new. I've earned it.

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 27 November 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Sherlock Holmes stories!

W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 27 November 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)

The Well of Lost Plots

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Da Capo Best Music Writing 2000 (It was the only title in the series available in my local library system.)

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 27 November 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago)

The Well of Lost Plots

Is it any good? I enjoyed the first two in this series but I've read mixed reports about this one.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 27 November 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Re: Well of Lost Plots. Lots of details about how Bookworld works, and the plot is a bit, well, lost, but still enjoyable for all the silliness. Seems as if some things were explained one way in book one and are now being given alternate explanations in book three, but I'm not altogether sure I might not just be mis-remembering. Thursday has always been a bit bloodless to me and she seems even more so here.

So I believe this is another mixed review for you!

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago)

(George), you know that one of the Da Capo books (2003?) has an ILM thread in it, right?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 28 November 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Fatherland by Thomas Harris, gripping.

Kevan (Kevan), Sunday, 28 November 2004 14:06 (twenty years ago)

another mixed review for you
Thanks Rabin. I think I'll need to buy it and make my own mind up.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 28 November 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago)

juat finished a book on Robert Rauschenberg by Sam Hunter and started Japanese Gardens: Right Angle and Natural Form by Gunter Nitschke, besides the Mick Foley autobio and a book still in progress and mentioned before on Japanese architecture. Three books on the go none of which are fiction may be a record for me.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 28 November 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago)

(George), you know that one of the Da Capo books (2003?) has an ILM thread in it, right?

::eyebrows fly off head::

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 28 November 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago)

i gave up on Isaac Babel for now. He was bumming me out. I will go back to him later. I don't think I'm a big fan of those Red Cavalry stories. I liked the earlier ones better.

Anyway, I am reading Elizabeth Taylor's The Soul Of Kindness. I dig her. And no, not THAT Elizabeth Taylor. The other one. I'm a Virago Modern Classics kinda guy.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 November 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

(The ILM thread doesn't really translate well to the page.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 05:17 (twenty years ago)

Just finished 'Cherry' by Matt Thorne. Didn't like it - for a 'clever' book it's kind of stupid, and I didn't *believe* in any of it. Cold and nasty.

Now 'The Last Thing He Wanted' by Joan Didion. Feel a little like when I first started watching 'The West Wing' - stuff being thrown at me a mile a minute and only understanding 10% of it. But I've got the hang of it a bit more now, over halfway through...

(Oh, and 'The Only Good Thing Anyone Has Ever Done' was interesting, kind of weirdly intricate and pretty gloomy, but funny too.)

Archel (Archel), Monday, 29 November 2004 09:44 (twenty years ago)

I like 'Red Cavalry' a lot. I also like 'You Must Know Everything', that story should be on the books about writing thread.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 29 November 2004 09:56 (twenty years ago)

I read "Reproduction is the Flaw of Love" over thanksgiving weeked. It's decent... about what you'd expect from a 20something female new york writer writing about a 20something male new yorker.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Rabbit, Run by John Updike. Beautifully written but I'm having trouble sympathizing with Rabbit at all.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago)

The New Yorker

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago)

A Lulu interview in Record Collector.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 09:18 (twenty years ago)

The Plot Against America left me stunned. More affecting than American Pastoral, even. The counterfactual/alternate history element gets balanced by Roth's hyper-realistic and empathetic portrayal of lower middle class family life in 1940s urban New Jersey. And the whole notion of Charles Lindebergh as isolationist/fascist US president put me in mind not so much of George W. Bush but of Arnold Schwarzenneger. As Mailer recently wrote, Arnold comes across like he's auditioning for dictator.
But this book is no mere political tract, it works as a flesh-and-blood novel and then some. Highly recommended.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago)

richard rolle, "the fire of love"
william shakespeare, "king lear"

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

I gave up on Pamuk's Snow a quarter of the way through after abandoning it several times in favor of short stories; it wasn't as compelling as I'd hoped, even though the images of snow were so beautiful.

I'm now reading A School for Fools by Sasha Sokolov. Much more to my odd liking.

zan, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Re-reading "What do you say after you say hello" by Eric Berne.

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

In Search of Reagan's Brain

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago)

The Doonesbury book? Nice.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago)

It makes for pleasant bedtime reading. I bought a Doonesbury book lot off Ebay a while ago. Too bad they only last two or three nights each.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago)

I have nearly all the Doonesbury books (except for the most recent ones, where my collection is a bit spotty). And yes, they do.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago)

The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie - Murial Spark. Not sure what I think of it. Please tell me.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 09:31 (twenty years ago)

you think it is exceptionally good and that she is one of the best scottish, nay british, writers who is underappreciated perhaps.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Four past midnight by Stephen King

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 11:21 (twenty years ago)

A biography of Nick Drake by Patrick Humphries. Am reminded why I never read biographies (thought I should give this one a go since it was a a present).

DO NOT GIVE ME THAT IRRELEVANT 'BACKGROUND' BIOGRAPHESE CRAP ABOUT THE FUCKING TITANIC, OF ALL THINGS. ok?

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago)

In fairness to Patrick Humphries, he was trying to write a book about the shyest person ever.

All the anecdotes are like, "Yeah, Nick used to come round my house, sit silently in the corner for eleven hours, then go home. Nice bloke, though."

Have you got to the bit where he compares him with Robert Johnson? Arf.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I always love it when the overstuffed bios pad themselves out even further by spending what seems like pages describing an interviewee's home and appearance. "Nick's fifth-form schoolmarm lives in a modest but cozy and spotless three-room cottage in that part of Brumfield just north of where the right side of the tracks meets the wrong side. Her cornflower blue eyes crinkle with delight as she again offers me another cup of tea along with scones apparently of her own making or perhaps from the little shop I noticed in the town on the way over from the railstation."

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago)

ha Ken otm.

I've got to 'oh and Nick and me were hilariously mistaken for the Rolling Stones in Moroccco'. That is the only actual story any of his friends have told, so far.

Yawn. You are right of course Mikey, but maybe he just shouldn't have written it then.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Jessica Mitford, Hons and Rebels. I'm deep into Mitfordiana right now, having read The Pursuit of Love and Mary Lovell's group biography of the sisters, which I wanted to throw across the room at several points. After I finish H&R, I'm on to Scoop and Vile Bodies by Waugh.

Why hasn't anyone made a movie yet of Hons and Rebels? Legal restrictions on the part of the Duchess of Devonshire? Esmond Romilly is quite dashing--I would love to see them both portrayed on the screen.

Gail S, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago)

You're a lady after my own heart, Gail. I love the Mitford Sisters books and Evelyn Waugh is great. There is a decent (and recent) film of Vile Bodies called Bright Young Things. Directed by Stephen Fy (I think).

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Mikey, I think Spark might be my second favourite British novelist ever (after Wodehouse), and that's one of her best. She's a magnificently sharp and original writer, and I love the way she often tells you something of what will happen later.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is a great book, one of her best as Martin says. I must confess I had some help in understanding it better by reading an essay by David Lodge in his The Novelist at the Crossroads I think it was. She plays with time a lot, such as with flash forwards, like the one to the death of the girl in the hotel fire, the "scapegoat" of the group(what's the word I want? Like when the drill sergeant has one recruit he picks on), but it's done pretty smoothly so you might not notice it. I think Brodie is a great portrait of a certain kind of schoolteacher, nutty, egocentic, opinionated and flawed, but that's the best you're gonna get. I'm also fascinated by the character of Sandy Stranger aka Sister Helena.

Fun fact: Philosopher and art critic Arthur C Danto wrote one of his philosophy of art books taking the title from within this novel, it being the title of a book (or was it her thesis?) written by Sandy Stranger, "The Transfiguration of the Commonplace."

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago)

I also group her in my mind with Flannery O'Connor, another Catholic writer, in whose work seemingly unexplainable things occur, as dictated by the authorial or divine hand, but I don't have anything coherent to say about it.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Lads, I'm fucked. I'm still struggling through the endless descriptions of different kinds of barley and types of gnu that make up Guns, Germs and Steel. The problem is that it's book number 47 of the 50 books I resolved to read in 2004, and it's seriously messing up my chances of getting to number 50, but I can't stop reading it because so many people consider it to be such a great book and I don't want to look stupid. Sigh. I have learned nothing from reading ILB. Nothing, I tell you!

Also I don't know what to read next. Gah and double gah.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm reading Garcia Marquez's 'Living to Tell the Tale'.

GailS, try this: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0395740150/qid=1101943480/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-5716194-7458256?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

I bought this for my inamorata several years ago when we were in France and I don't think she even noticed the countryside we were training through 'cause she couldn't put it down.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago)

In that case, I hope she is still your inamorata and not persona non grata.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:38 (twenty years ago)

"Mikey, I think Spark might be my second favourite British novelist ever (after Wodehouse)"

she's certainly my favorite LIVING British writer. I don't know about "ever". I'd have to think about that one. i confess i haven't read her last two books yet. I kinda like having something to look forward to though.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago)

I love 'The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie' and 'A Far Cry from Kensington'. But I didn't enjoy 'The Finishing School' (her most recent?) at all I'm sorry to say.

I have given up on Nick Drake (the book not the man I hasten to add) and am now reading 'The Fortunate Pilgrim' by Mario Puzo. I like it so far, it nearly made me cry on the bus this morning in fact and I'm only on page 50.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 2 December 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Have you finished only good thing anyone has ever done?

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 2 December 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Thanks to everyone for your opinions on Jean Brodie. I liked the fact that it is difficult to form an opinion of Miss Brodie; the text is woven with contradictions. She's a modern thinker, but dismisses modern schools as crank. She's all for freedom and yet all for fascism. It was fascinating and I loved the line, "the house had a six o'clock feel about it."

One final thought about the Nick Drake biography (this occoured to me on the bus last night). I think it fails because the one person who could really add depth to Nick's character, his sister, Gabrielle, refused to speak to the author. I guess one day, when she's at a crossroads (sorry), she'll write a biography of her own. Or maybe he's just not biography material? Just a guy who could write the most beautiful songs.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 2 December 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago)

I also group her in my mind with Flannery O'Connor, another Catholic writer, in whose work seemingly unexplainable things occur, as dictated by the authorial or divine hand, but I don't have anything coherent to say about it.

my o'connor theory is that her stories are set in a world in which the rapture taken place, during the 40 years (or is it 99 years? something like that) of torment pre-apocalypse.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 2 December 2004 12:14 (twenty years ago)

anyway. i'm reading the independent because i'm finally finished with all of my books.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 2 December 2004 12:15 (twenty years ago)

A Christmas Carol. For 'tis the season to read Dickens.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 2 December 2004 13:09 (twenty years ago)

That plug for The Rapture was beyond shameless.

the bellefox, Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I have just started reading Wuthering Heights. It begins: '1801'. This is good, because it helps you to know, when the novel is set.

the bellefox, Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Just after 6pm.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

i'm about to read the aspern papers by henry james. it's part of a FETCH hj collection that you can view here http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0880298162/qid=1102002274/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/002-4723425-8176814?v=glance&s=books.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago)

it's in first person and the opening lines are cool so i have high expectations.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I think you are possibly right, on possibly both counts, Mikey.

Fred I finished TOGTAHED a few days ago:
(Oh, and 'The Only Good Thing Anyone Has Ever Done' was interesting, kind of weirdly intricate and pretty gloomy, but funny too.)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Archel.
bellefox wuthering heights is one of my favs.

Fred (Fred), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago)

MikeyG, I haven't seen Bright Young Things yet, although I remember reading a good review of it in The New York Times a few months ago and making a mental note to check it out. This was before my plunge into the world of the Mitfords, so I have to see it now. I checked last weekend at my fairly comprehensive local video store and it wasn't out on DVD yet. Hope it comes soon.

Michael S, that collection sounds great. Thanks for the recommendation. Another one for the growing list.

GailS, Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago)

I intrigued that Drake's biography was as bad as the Cole Porter one I read.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 2 December 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Did you get it from a charity shop, The Pinefox?

I feel like sticking up for the Nick Drake biography, but I don't know why.

Yes I do!

It mentions a pub he used to go to, in the village where my brother used to live, and it says where Nick Drake used to sit. So I used to go and sit there, sometimes.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Forrest Gump by Winston Groom.

Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago)

What's the trouble with this forum?

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago)

I've been reading 'Breaking Open the Head' by Daniel Pinchbeck, which is excellent but really only proved how tragically wedded to Western consensual reality I still am, at heart.

Now reading 'Stet' by Diana Athill (turns out I'm not really that interested in publishing either) and 'The Conformist' by Alberto Moravia which is very very wordy in translation but alas my Italian is more than rusty.

Archelll, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

The Complete McAuslan by George MacDonald Fraser, a regional writer from the Scotland area. The introduction is about the amalgamation of Scottish regiments, believe it or not. So I must be pretty hip and topical.

Fred, some posts got lost during a server revamp, if that's what you mean. They are gone, we will never know what we were reading during that time. Still, at least future googlers won't know that I failed to finish Baltasar and Blimunda.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago)

The writer of the Flashman series? Or a different MacDonald Fraser?

I finished Jim Giraffe by Darren King, which I really enjoyed, and am now reading The Drowning Room by Michael Pye. It's yet another book about Dutch colonists. I think I've read five books about Dutch colonists this year.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago)

I just read The Case of the Perservering Maltese, Harry Mathews' book of essays. It was pretty great! Tonight I'm hosting a small reading of Bernadette Mayer's book-length poem Midwinterday, which was written on Dec. 22, 1978. It should be nice.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Well, I finally finished Way Out There in the Blue (highly recommended), and now I'm reading the Dylan memoir.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:57 (twenty years ago)

xpost:
Man, I love Harry Mathews, but I haven't got that one yet. As mentioned during the 17-gap I was reading and have finished a fun novel called Tom Harris by Stefan Themerson, who was a novelist, publisher, filmmaker and philosopher -a Polish polymath.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Several of the posts that have been lost contained a series of complaints about and attacks on Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights, by me. I think I feel disappointed that they have been lost, though I must admit that the loss of one's posts could possibly be a good thing, and a relief.

Yes, Wuthering Heights. I thought it dirgelike, drearily daubed: a chronicle of cruelty with scant respite or redemption. The book seems to me bereft of merit, save perhaps as some manner of cautionary tale bidding us not let our own silly and sometimes thwarted desires (and most desires, I suppose, are thwarted) gain such violent and vicious ventilation.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Diplomacy by Henry kissinger. He is a bad bad man, nice analysis though.

Chip Shop (Danny), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago)

'Peasants and Other Stories' by Anton Chekhov.

It's part of the NYRB Classics series. For the last few months, every time I go to the library I've been picking from this series and/or from the 'Crime Masterworks' series, usually books I haven't heard of before. I haven't had a dud one yet.
I'd never read any Chekhov before but this is wonderful. It's making me think I should just read Russian novels for the rest of my life.
(I'll post an extract on the thread for extracts).

Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago)

From what I remember of Wuthering Heights, I agree with the bellefox.
Can't find the extracts thread, so here's a bit from 'The Murder', one of the stories in the Chekhov book.

Matvey lighted a candle and began reading a book which he had borrowed from the station policeman. While he was sitting over it the service ended, and they all went to bed. Dashutka lay down, too. She began snoring at once, but soon woke up and said, yawning:

"You shouldn't burn a candle for nothing, Uncle Matvey."

"It's my candle," answered Matvey; "I bought it with my own money."

Dashutka turned over a little and fell asleep again. Matvey sat up a good time longer -- he was not sleepy -- and when he had finished the last page he took a pencil out of a box and wrote on the book:

"I, Matvey Terehov, have read this book, and think it the very best of all the books I have read, for which I express my gratitude to the non-commissioned officer of the Police Department of Railways, Kuzma Nikolaev Zhukov, as the possessor of this priceless book."

He considered it an obligation of politeness to make such inscriptions in other people's books.

Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago)

i've just started lorrie moore's who will run the frog hospital and given up on claire tomalin's bio of samuel pepys. in case anyone is wondering why i've abandoned the latter, i offer the following reasons: i don't think i like pepys, i don't think i like her writing style, and i don't think i'm at all interested in naval history. if you had asked me at any point before i started the book if i had an interest in naval history, the answer would have been yes. it sounds fairly intriguing, doesn't it? unfortunately, it isn't really.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 December 2004 10:13 (twenty years ago)

It's true - that stuff is so self-centred and solipsistic.

the pomefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago)

I mean, the relentless naval-gazing.

the bellefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago)

I have started The Corrections. I quite like it! I am 50pp in. It is more readable than Bronte, and somewhat more interestingly written. I think I admire Frantzen's ability to pen dialogue of authentic distraction. My main doubt must concern the heaviness of his irony: too much satire, too little novel? - perhaps, just a little.

the bellefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 11:00 (twenty years ago)

also: tomalin has to spend a fair amount of time making excuses for the fact that pepys seems to have been a bit of a paedophile, and that gets old.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 December 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago)

"All we can say is that life ran very high in those days"

Edward Dowden (Prof.), Thursday, 23 December 2004 11:12 (twenty years ago)

I mean, the relentless naval-gazing.

Come over here so I can clip your ear for you, young fellow-me-lad.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 23 December 2004 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it is the same MacDonald Fraser who wrote Flashdance. Are those books funny too? I like McAuslan, it is about football.

BBC2 viewers may like to know that there is a poetry programme, Essential Poems for Christmas on tonight at 7.30. It promises 'a Starry line-up of thespians', one of whom is Jack Dee.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 23 December 2004 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Peej (if I may call you that), they are a laugh riot. Thanks for the poetry tip-off.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 23 December 2004 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Fraser wrote Flashdance? That would be funny.

I like Flashman, he's so bad.

I've read a history of the Vikings, Far Away and Long Ago by WH Hudson (about his childhood on the Argentine pampas) and some others I've forgotten.

I just checked me, erm, spreadsheet and I've read 112 books this year with an average score of 6.86. Sad? Me?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 23 December 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago)

how do you like the frog hospital, lauren?

e.m. cioran, 'drawn & quartered'

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 23 December 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago)

... and:

PF, 'carte noël'

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 23 December 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Do I understand that last psot?

I hope so.

Accentmonkey, I wanted to send you a carte noel, but I think you have bought a new house, and I became unsure about posting it (the carte, not la maison). So, I will wish you a noel, in another way.

Does anyone think that I should read anything by the following over xmas?

James

Conrad

Ford

Beerbohm

Wilde

Keats

et al

Did Robert Lowell write anything about xmas?

the pomefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I have got a Conrad book, it is The Secret Agent. We could, I suppose, have a race.

I have also got a book by Ford, Ford Madox. It is Parade's End. We could have a race with that one, too.

But first I must finish McAuslan. I dreamt that I had nearly finished it, but I haven't.

I am on the seventh of The Seven Basic Plots. 200pp.

I received a carte noel, for which I am grateful to the point of micturation.

Did you, The Pinefox, receive a double CD-R noel?

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago)

i received seulement quatre cartes de noel, trois from co-workers. really kind of pathetic.

so far i like the frog hospital very much, indeed.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Miller, it is funny how you are still reading that book. Also, it is funny about the races. You're a bit of a raceialist, I suspect. I have read that Conrad book, which is very good, but not the other one, which I think is long. I have read The Good Soldier, though!

Also, PJM, I did receive the package, and felt grateful.

Cozen, I am coming (going) to see you!

the bellefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I just finished a book by Geoffrey O'Brien called 'The Phantom Empire'. It was about fillums. I have just started 'The Search' by Geoff Dyer.

Two poems by Lowell about Xmas. Joyeux winterlude, ILB!

ROBERT LOWELL
CHRISTMAS IN BLACK ROCK

Christ God's red shadow hangs upon the wall
The dead leaf's echo on these hours
Whose burden spindles to no breath at all;
Hard at our heels the huntress moonlight towers
And the green needles bristle at the glass
Tiers of defense-plants where the treadmill night
Churns up Long Island Sound with piston-fist.
Tonight, my child, the lifeless leaves will mass,
Heaving and heaping, as the swivelled light
Burns on the bell-spar in the fruitless mist.

Christ Child, your lips are lean and evergreen
Tonight in Black Rock, and the moon
Sidles outside into the needle-screen
And strikes the hand that feeds you with a spoon
Tonight, as drunken Polish night-shifts walk
Over the causeway and their juke-box booms
Hosannah in excelsis Domino.
Tonight, my child, the foot-loose hallows stalk
Us down in the blind alleys of our rooms;
By the mined root the leaves will overflow.

December, old leech, has leafed through Autumn's store
Where Poland has unleashed its dogs
To bay the moon upon the Black Rock shore:
Under our windows, on the rotten logs
The moonbeam, bobbing like an apple, snags
The undertow. O Christ, the spiralling years
Slither with child and manger to a ball
Of ice; and what is man? We tear our rags
To hang the Furies by their itching ears,
And the green needles nail us to the wall.


CHRISTMAS EVE UNDER HOOKER'S STATUE

Tonight a blackout. Twenty years ago
I hung my stocking on the tree, and hell's
Serpent entwined the apple in the toe
To sting the child with knowledge. Hooker's heels
Kicking at nothing in the shifting snow,
A cannon and a cairn of cannon balls
Rusting before the blackened Statehouse, know
How the long horn of plenty broke like glass
In Hooker's gauntlets. Once I came from Mass;

Now storm-clouds shelter Christmas, once again
Mars meets his fruitless star with open arms,
His heavy saber flashes with the rime,
The war-god's bronzed and empty forehead forms
Anonymous machinery from raw men;
The cannon on the Common cannot stun
The blundering butcher as he rides on Time-
The barrel clinks with holly. I am cold:
I ask for bread, my father gives me mould;

His stocking is full of stones. Santa in red
Is crowned with wizened berries. Man of war,
Where is the summer's garden? In its bed
The ancient speckled serpent will appear,
And black-eyed susan with her frizzled head.
When Chancellorsville mowed down the volunteer,
"All wars are boyish," Herman Melville said;
But we are old, our fields are running wild:
Till Christ again turn wanderer and child.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago)

PF both you and I would be lucky if you were to see me.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I got tired of The Tunnel by William Gass after about 50 pages, so now I'm reading The Good Soldier Svejk by Jaroslav Hasek. It's funny!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I am excited about the Lowell.

Geoffrey O'Brien - he just doesn't stop!

I am going to read his book on pop, soon enough. I now own it!

This one sounds like a personal response to George Lucas.

Cozen, are you feeling lucky? And am I also going to hear you, this time?

the bellefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

the jokes in the good soldier svejk get old eventually, well before the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages of the book come to an end. those interested in more concise czech literature should try hrabal's i served the king of england or too loud a solitude.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Geoffrey O'Brien
Here are my comments on him on the ILM thread
Favorite Books about music 2004
Prove me wrong.

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I have not read it, Ken: but I will imagine, in the form of a ghostly yet insistent, highly personal yet also heavily culturally mediated reverie, that you are spot-on.

the bellefox, Thursday, 23 December 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago)

BTW, Cozen: I was thinking about my carte to you, and thinking that the inscription was more Noelesque than I had realized.

the noelfox, Friday, 24 December 2004 12:21 (twenty years ago)

I have now copied the Lowell out, into a file, so I can print it, and read it, and interpret or think about it (that is, them).

the pomefox, Friday, 24 December 2004 12:22 (twenty years ago)

simon reynolds 'energy flash'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 December 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Fight club.

Fred (Fred), Saturday, 25 December 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago)

The Corrections continues to impress and compel, after nearly 300 American pages. (The American differ from the British.) I wonder, now, whether ILB ever discussed it. I have just compiled in my head a list of how it is good. I will draft it here, in fact:

1. sustained interest over such length, time

2. differentiation (character)

3. resemblance (character)

4. erudition (but this is not an unambiguous boon)

5. style (variety, phrasing, concision, extravagance)

6. scale of vision? ('globalization'; attempt to link the personal and the financial and institutional)

7. comedy: it makes me laugh out loud

8. dialogue: 'realism'

9. sexuality: ditto?

10. attention to detail: much from the small vs little from the big

Negatives?

1. "Medicalization" of life (O'Hagan; but then this is thematic)

2. Satire over-egged (academics, Norwegians?)?

3. erudition (excess; eg. science)

4. occasional hardening of representations and ideas into types, cliches

5. imagery (Corrections, locomotives): overinsistent, strained?

Yet I am not now over troubled by these flaws; many books with big reputations (Pynchon, DeLillo) have the same flaws (what knowledge doubtless in GR, to what little valuable effect of cohesion, emotion, interest), and not the same virtues.

the bellefox, Sunday, 26 December 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I just read this as well, The Pinefox, and loved it. It captures small strains and misunderstandings particularly well, I think.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 26 December 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Tristano Meurt by Antonio Tabucchi.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago)

Martin S, we quite agree.

Yet (as indicated) my admiration coexists with reservations. The passage from about p.300 in which Enid Lambert consults a doctor who looks like John Travolta and can't get her name right is excruciating, and confirms my sense that Frantzen should drop 'satire' and stick to 'novel' (as though the difference were plain).

Yet a counter-feeling: was it Roth who said that US reality always outran the US writer? - well, maybe Frantzen's parody is a pale version of a frightening, garishly friendly world in which such scary, friendly pharmaceutical visions are already here. As with Bronte, I risk blaming the messenger. (But, no, I cannnot *quite* mean this - novelists must be somehow responsible for what they include and how.)

Also I wonder at times whether the novel's sprawl leads it too far: not one or two but three siblings' lives to cover in detail! But OK - if I like the book, I should not object to there always being more of it.

My other objection: culinary fetishism. Frantzen seems bent on adding to his display (and not merely in the section on the cook, but elsewhere, virtually throughout) medical and engineering eruditions a ceaseless account of rare ingredients and mysterious cooking techniques. For those of us (yet there is no us, there is only me?) for whom cookery books are like (like what? try this:) the longer poetic works of Shelley or Keats (endless, impenetrable, always referring to some arcane knowledge elsewhere), this parade of overcompetence smacks of unnecessary cruelty.

the pinefox, Monday, 27 December 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I had best attempt that sentence once more:

Frantzen seems bent (and not merely in the section on the cook, but elsewhere, virtually throughout) on adding to his display of medical and engineering eruditions an unending catalogue of rare ingredients and mysterious cooking techniques.

(BTW, is the cook dimly inspired by Monica Geller on Friends?)

the bellefox, Monday, 27 December 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago)

She didn't seem to have anything in common with her that I could see.

Yes, some of the satire was heavyhanded, and seemed out of tone with the rest, but I rarely mind that too much. And I have no interest in cookery, but I like understanding any craft, and didn't think there was too much of that anyway.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 December 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago)

More descriptions of snow-covered towns in literature
One of most famous snowfalls in literature, in prose at least, is in James Joyce's "The Dead."
Personal favorite is in Alexander Pushkin's story called "Snowstorm," I think.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago)

Genya Ravan Lollipop Lounge: Memoirs of a Rock and Roll Refugee
Laura Kipnis Against Love (A Polemic)
Judith Flanders Inside the Victorian Home
Kenneth Goldsmith I'll Be Your Mirror: the Selected Andy Warhol Interviews
Joel Lobenthal Tallulah! The Life and Times of a Leading Lady

rereading:
Cynthia Heimel Sex Tips for Girls & Advanced Sex Tips for Girls

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago)

I was suprised that I enjoyed Against Love so much.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago)

Why do you need tips?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Prospect Magazine, December edition. I like the fact it is a bit out of date, like Shoot! magazine used to be.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh, rereading.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago)

Still.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Anyway:

Chronicles: Volume One

which Accentmonkey considered

very poorly written and most unengaging.

Also, 20pp into The Line of Beauty. Maybe Jed and I have literary taste in common after all.

the bobfox, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago)

What I love about Dylan: his immersion in an old world, not the new one. I don't so much mean the venerable folk music that he says was permanent news to him, but his ready recollections of Ricky Nelson and Roy Orbison as men who matter.

the bobfox, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I had a look at the Bob Dylan book to see if it was 'very poorly written and most unengaging' and became so engaged I forgot to check if it was poorly written. The bit I read stated that he had made an album based on Chekov short stories and people had assumed it was autobiographical. I suppose he means Blood on the Tracks. If not, which album? And more importantly, which Chekov stories? Lady with Lap Dancer?

I am going to exchange How to Get a Job You'll Love for that David Thompson film dictionary, because I liked the entry on J-Lo.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Ken, any particular Mathews recommendations? I've read the essays and "20 Lines A Day", both of which I quite liked, and "The Orchard" and some of his Oulipo writings, but I couldn't get into "The Sinking of the Or....dek Stadium" (can't remember the spelling) despite its obvious appeals. I'm thinking of renting "Solitary Pleasures" from the library, since it seems like a clear winner, but it seems so clear I don't know if I need to bother reading it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 28 December 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago)

PJM: yes, I think that's what he means. (And I'm only on page 62 or something; Chekhov remains unmentioned. Balzac doesn't.)

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 December 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago)

xpost:
Cigarettes

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 30 December 2004 05:28 (twenty years ago)

James Ellroy's 'Dudley Smith Trio' (The Big Nowhere, L.A. Confidential, White Jazz).

Harry Potter 3, someone bought me a copy for Chrimbo after my second hand copy turned out to have loads of pages missing.

Just finished Jesper FForde's 'Well Of Lost Plots' - a bit of a holding pattern in terms of the overall Thursday Next story but the ideas, the writing and the gags are some consolation for the lack of coherent plot.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 30 December 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

The Arden Shakespeare Complete Works, Revised Edition

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 1 January 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm reading Mediterranean: Portrait of the Sea by Ernle Bradford. It's hopelessly out of date now, written in 1961, but it is fascinating and wonderfully written.

Kevan (Kevan), Saturday, 1 January 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

My Faith So Far by Patton Dodd

Jessa (Jessa), Sunday, 2 January 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

if on a winter's night a traveler (hilarious and mysterious, the kind of thing that gives metafiction a good name)

and dipping randomlike into the Thomson film dictionary, great fun, smart writing, wrong about all sorts of things but arguing with him is part of the pleasure of reading him.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 3 January 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

The Moon In Its Flight by Gilbert Sorrentino

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 3 January 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Chris,
I'm not surprised you couldn't get into The Sinking of the Odradek Stadium. It's not his best book, not as much interesting writing as some of his other stuff, and an annoyingly jokey plot about secret lodges- when I read it, I thought I had another Masters of Atlantis on my hands, but it wasn't that bad. I liked The Journalist a lot, The Conversions too, but Cigarettes was my favorite. Each chapter is from the point of view of a different character, which gives Harry a chance to show his stuff. Be warned that it has a pretty complicated plot, maybe beyond Ross Macdonald complicated and onto Mission:Impossible complicated.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 3 January 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Don Quixote, Part One.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov
Brick Lane by Monica Ali
The Blue Book by Owen Sheers
How to be Alone by Jonathan Franzen (haven't really started this yet)
rereading: Early Autumn by Robert B Parker (my favourite of his)

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Enduring Cuba by Zoe Bran. I'm starting a travel writing course next week and she's the tutor. I am such a creep.

Plus Kate Atkinson - Case Histories and a biography of Raphael ('cos I went to the show at the National Gallery and it was the bestest).

MikeyG (MikeyG), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

En Malstrøm by Jonas Lie.

SRH (Skrik), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

The Blue Flower by Penelope Fitzgerald and a very entertaining bio of fashion legend Diana Vreeland.

Gail S, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

That Blue Flower sure was good.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

i just started positively fourth street: the lives and times of bob dylan, joan baez, mimi baez farina, and richard farina. it's interesting to read about the baez sisters, but the author needed a much stronger editor. so far, too much editorializing (and some awful usage errors).

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Just finished Last bridge home by iris johansen. now re-reading dubliners. still on fight club.

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't finish, or rather, couldn't really start 'The Blue Flower'.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Still, still making my way through RF Foster's Modern Ireland, also reading Phillipa Gregory's Virgin Earth, which has a little too much of her research embedded in people's conversations for my liking. "What, you mean the king will invade Scotland just because they won't use Laud's prayerbook?"
"That's not the only reason. He wants to bind everyone together under one faith," and so on.

Also dipping in and out of Tom Pocock's The Terror Before Trafalgar. I'm not sure how much I care about battles if they don't have Jack Aubrey in 'em.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't finish, or rather, couldn't really start 'The Blue Flower'.
There is something about Penelope F that is kind of boring or difficult to warm up to or three steps ahead of you - I am not sure how I overcame it except by dint of sheer willpower, I don't know where it came from.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Monkey, surprisingly, or maybe not, I have read most of that Foster book!

But maybe it was not really 'most', more like 'half' or something. But some bits I have read more than once. I think I read from The Ascendancy Mind on, if not earlier; and the first chapters, etc etc. Anyway - it's impressive, isn't it?

Memories: reading it, summer 2003, under the tree outside my house, with freshly made coffee, bagel, and the wee old Irish gardener passing by and calling, - ah, now what's that you're reading?

the finefox, Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

I finished Chronicles, on a Northbound train, with the likes of Berwick's harbour almost going unregarded. Generous, quirky, loose yet so often inspired: I could not help but chuckle in public through the queer Oh Mercy sessions.

Maybe the greatest pop book I have ever read!

the bobfox, Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Now, 290pp into the 500pp of (In) The Line of Beauty. Gayest book I have ever read. Thinking about the (Jamesian) style, I come to the thought: it's about a careful manuipulation of carelessness.

the bellefox, Thursday, 6 January 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Wee old Irish gardener, eh?

Surprisingly, although it's taking me a long time to read it, I'm quite enjoying the bits I understand. It does it take for granted that you already know the sequence of all major events, for instance, and tends to explain a lot of why and how instead of telling what, and I'm not sure I know enough about the history of my own country to be able to fully grasp a book like that.

[Hangs head in shame. Slinks away.]

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Finished Death and the Penguin and read Audrey Niffenegger's fantastic The Time Traveler's Wife over the holidays; now on to Fingersmith. Great after only 20 pages.

zan, Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Third Girl by Agatha Christie

Fred (Fred), Saturday, 8 January 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

"Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance and the Rise of Independent Film." By Peter Biskind More like an endless magazine article than a proper book w/ narrative arc and fully developled characters but I'm devouring it like salt peanuts, salt peanuts. (Nothing else seemed worth contemplating in the library this week.) One thought emerges from all the Harvey "Satan" Weinstein anecdotes: why do people working in entertainment and/or the media conflate being an assholic martinet and being an effective manager? The cult of the insane dickhead boss begins (ends?) here.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 8 January 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

amazon customer reviews

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 January 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Just a thought, but might it not be an opportune time to start a new thread, along the lines of '2005: now what are you reading?'? Only this one's a little unwieldy to say the least...

Mog, Monday, 10 January 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

Monkey: you're quite right about the book. I feel that I must clarify that the gardener is not 'mine', in some Woolfian or Perloffian way, but works for the whole block of flats. He is, though, wee, and Irish, and we get on well talking about Cork and Joyce.

the finefox, Monday, 10 January 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I agree with Mog, it takes about 2 minutes to load up on my poor 56k modem.

You start the new thread Mog, and I'll back you up.

Kevan (Kevan), Monday, 10 January 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

kevan-- go to the 'settings' - look at show messages and change it from 'all'...no pressure on yr modem.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 January 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I've made a new 2005 thread, but I have no idea how to link to it here. So you'll have to find it yourselves (unless someone more familiar with the dark arts can link it for me).

Mog, Monday, 10 January 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

To link a thread, all you have to do is paste the address and it turns into this:
2005: so now what are you reading?

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 10 January 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

The members of this forum have set the message limit to last 50 posts so I don't think the length of a thread matters.
I'm reading Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 10 January 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Fred: That's actually your own setting -- you can go down to "settings" at the bottom of the page and change it if you'd like. There's still a tradition of not letting threads get too unwieldy -- somewhere around 1000 answers is considered sufficient.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
And what, I wonder, did you think of The line of beauty Pinefox? I've just finished it, and spent the entire novel fervently wishing to be able to step into it and start hitting people. It's beautifully written, though.

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)


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