2012 and the northern days advance, the southern recede: what are you reading?

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It is now Aprille with his shoures sote. Time for a new 'What are you reading?' thread.

I have been reading The Worst Journey in the World, by Apsley Cherry-Garrard, about the last Scott expedition to the South Pole, where Scott got to the pole, discovered Amundsen had got there first, then died on the return trip, along with the group that accompanied him.

Aimless, Friday, 6 April 2012 03:32 (thirteen years ago)

musil - 'the man without qualities'
von rezzori - 'an ermine in czernopol'
fitzgerald - 'great gatsby', 'tender is the night'
austin - 'mansfield park'

i always get about twenty pages further in 'mansfield park' and fall asleep but i really enjoyed everything else

Lamp, Friday, 6 April 2012 05:37 (thirteen years ago)

further interpretations of real life events - kevin moffett

^v excellent short stories, cant recommend more highly

also reading a sorta pulpy thing called 'sharon tate and the manson murders'

johnny crunch, Friday, 6 April 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

I finished Roth's Letting Go. It was really good, though heavy going at times which is unusual for him. It may have been me I suppose, I got to feeling reader's blocky latterly, yet there were certainly plenty of things happening to bowl the story along. One definite flaw in it is that it shifts perspective a bit, again unusually for him, but lands mostly on the least interesting of the major characters - and as he becomes increasingly distant towards the end, I found myself knowing not as much as I'd've liked to. Leave the reader wanting less, in this instance.

Now DeLillo's The Angel Esmerelda. No reader's block here, I've devoured five of the nine stories already. The title story is quite amazing - such a jolt to see it stand alone, with the metaphors and backstories shorn of the wider resonance they gain from Underworld. They work regardless; it speaks to the power of the long novel though, that the appearance of terror, discarded syringes, or a parade of death instantly brings that book back in vivid flashes.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

Mansfield Park is Austen's gothic novel, right?

a lot of seriously talentless bassists out there (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 6 April 2012 13:40 (thirteen years ago)

finished Elsa Morante's Aracoeli - amazing, great book with a flawed last few pages.

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 April 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Harlot's Ghost, a real treasure.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

this time, i am actually going to finish the power broker.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 April 2012 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

"finished Elsa Morante's Aracoeli - amazing, great book with a flawed last few pages."

did you read La Storia? - it's her masterpiece, subjectively and objectively:)

currently reading Delillo's Angel Esmeralda which is very very good.
and Tristran Shandy - an on going project i startet 2 weeks ago.

nostormo, Friday, 6 April 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

i keep hoping nyrb or someone will put out a collection of morantes short stories in english

Lamp, Friday, 6 April 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

On Photography by Susan Sontag.
V for Vendetta - Alan Moore / David Lloyd
And I'm about to start on Kurt Vonnegut's Galapagos too.

Romeo Jones, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

did you read La Storia? - it's her masterpiece

no but I bought it (at a completely awesome used book store in Denton which not that most people ever get the chance to go to Denton but Jesus if you do, right downtown there's a place called Recycled Books that's completely make-a-point-of-coming-back-to-this-town-to-buy-more-books great) once I was about 1/3 of the way through Aracoeli - what a great writer

i keep hoping nyrb or someone will put out a collection of morantes short stories in english

dude if you dropped a note to Open Letter saying this it might actually have an effect, those guys are doing great work in bringing stuff into print. A little uneven, not every volume's a gem but I have them to thank for getting me into Merce Rodoreda who's now one of my favorite writers ever

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)

anti-oedipus which i am really loving.
power / michel foucault so far so good.
aaand the return - roberto bolaño which i haven't really started yet

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

Please describe the writing of Morantes.

dow, Saturday, 7 April 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)

finished going through the viriconium books.

reading tolkien's 'the notion club papers' which is this weird proto-borgesian thing about the inklings collected in those horrid 'the history of middle-earth' volumes.

should probably read some proper books.

thomp, Saturday, 7 April 2012 06:05 (thirteen years ago)

Wdn't bother - walked past Daunt's bookshop just now and they all look rubbish.

Fizzles, Saturday, 7 April 2012 08:24 (thirteen years ago)

Geoffrey Kabaservice - Rule and Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, From Eisenhower to the Tea Party

just finished, best book on politics I've read since Nixonland. really insightful into the 60s struggle for republican party's 'soul' if you will. Mitt Romney's relationship to his father George (governor, CEO, failed presidential candidate) reminds of the Bushes. well written, not too wonky.

Saul Bellow - The Dean's December and More Die of Heartbreak

hey I'm a middle-aged guy who married into a family of smart talkative jews. late Bellow speaks to me (though I don't agree with the dean's politics).

Vladimir Nabakov - Bend Sinister

occasionally OTT prose but mostly compelling and complex evocation of life under dictatorship. lots of breathtaking prose too and LOLs of course.

taking on vacation next week: Saul Bellow - Collected Stories and John Julius Norwich - Absolute Monarchs: A History of the Papacy

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

Morante is great! Its been a while but History is a must, kinda the equivalent to Germany: Year Zero

Barthes - Camera Lucida

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 April 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

is that germany year zero as in batman year zero

i started reading a charles williams book on the bus, as of 20 pages it is fantastic and i want to read all his novels. this feeling will not last

thomp, Saturday, 7 April 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)

*googles* if there was a Batman type vigilante who was walking around a ruined Berlin in '45 saving German boys from paedo Nazis who escaped from the Red Army into the new post-war society then sign me up.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 April 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wetherspoon News. Editorial. First sentence:

As we all know, a strong current of tribalism flows through the veins of humanity

Fizzles, Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

haha

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Geoffrey Kabaservice - Rule and Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, From Eisenhower to the Tea Party

just finished, best book on politics I've read since Nixonland. really insightful into the 60s struggle for republican party's 'soul' if you will. Mitt Romney's relationship to his father George (governor, CEO, failed presidential candidate) reminds of the Bushes. well written, not too wonky.

damn. have to read this.

picking up wodehouse's 'joy in the morning' before bed each night and getting through about 40 pages a day. it's swell.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

Corey Robin's The Reactionary Mind, which I just ordered, covers some of that terrain but begins with...Burke.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

Been reading the Optical sound zines I got last week since getting them, discovering a load of new current psychedelic bands i hadn't been aware of before.

also I Need More the Iggy Pop autobio in the 2:13:61 version which is itself from 96 and reissued a book from about 14 years earlier. Wondering if there's any chance of an update or new autobio by him. Stress by him since I'm really enjoying his versions of things. Probably several tall tales and egocentric views in there but entertaining.

Just finishing Greil Marcus's book on the Doors which has been very interesting. Need to sit down and listen through the live recordings he talks about, those I've got anyway.

Simon Reynolds Retromania
Have enjoyed most of his books that I've read.

The Beatles The Anthology book

Journal Of the Dead
book about a couple of young guys getting in trouble in a desert region of Colorado or somewhere. Should be way too close to civilisation for what ensues but disaster or something still strikes. Cost me 50c in a library sale anyway.

also need to read more of the books I have out of the library Joseph Conrad's Lord Jim, No Go The Bogeyman and a couple of others.

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 April 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

i read marcus's book on the doors a few weeks ago. it's really refreshing reading him on a band he's barely talked about; i'm a fan, but i'm pretty tired of reading him on his 8 or 9 pet subjects. would love to track down some of those live recordings he rhapsodizes about.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 April 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Lots of them have turned up on torrent sites over the last few years and others are on the Boot the Butts box set. Not sure if you can still get that though.

Some of the '70 live sets were appearing in FOPP for £5 a pop, so may be cheap elsewhere too.

Stevolende, Sunday, 8 April 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

Corey Robin's The Reactionary Mind, which I just ordered, covers some of that terrain but begins with...Burke.

All I know of that book is that the author has this to say:

I treat the right as a unity, as a coherent body of theory and practice that transcends the divisions so often emphasized by scholars and pundits. I use the words conservative, reactionary, and counterrevolutionary interchangeably: not all counterrevolutionaries are conservative -- Walt Rostow immediately comes to mind -- but all conservatives are, in one way or another, counterrevolutionary. I seat philosophers, statesmen, slaveholders, scribblers, Catholics, fascists, evangelicals, businessmen, racists and hacks at the same table: Hobbes next to Hayek, Burke across from Palin, Nietzsche in between Ayn Rand and Antonin Scalia, with Adams, Calhoun, Oakeshott, Ronald Reagan, Tocqueville, Theodore Roosevelt, Margaret Thatcher, Ernst Junger, Carl Schmitt, Winston Churchill, Phyllis Schlafly, Richard Nixon, Irving Kristol, Francis Fukuyama, and George W. Bush interspersed throughout.

He doesn't mention his parents?

alimosina, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

tbh that makes it sound a bit like the mirror image of jonah goldberg's 'liberal fascism.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 April 2012 06:07 (thirteen years ago)

Just reading Browning & about Browning for a while. Sort of an experiment, see what happens if I focus on something for a couple of months, rather than just flitting from topic to topic. Finished the Ring and the Book last night. Starting The Inn Album.

I have also acknowledged that there is a problem with books in my flat, and I am Building Billys.

woof, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:48 (thirteen years ago)

shouldn't have been a capital on 'Building' in that final sentence. Makes no sense.

woof, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:49 (thirteen years ago)

W/e, we all know you are Building Billys, can't take it back now

THE SPACEMENT TAPES (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)

finished blue nights, book 1 of dune, and mishima's the mask. not sure what to tackle next--the man without qualities has been on my list for a while, and the recent discussion here prompted me to get it from the library--but it's so big to lug around.

rayuela, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

i am still struggling with mansfield park but i bought a bunch of 99 cent fantasy books at the thrift store yesterday (and lol 'underworld') so i think i may just give up on it

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

did u give up on musil already

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

no i finished reading that

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

already? god that's depressing

thomp, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 08:34 (thirteen years ago)

tbrr reading musil at 18 was probably the most influential reading experience since aa milne some 14 yrs earlier

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

they were both born in 80-82, that fecund era that begot joyce, stravinsky picasso, bartok &c

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)

In a pleasing bit of life/art unity, I finished The Spoils of Poynton by Henry James on the same day that I went to Snowshill Manor, a National Trust property devoted to one man's collection of wonderful objects...

Also read The Battle for Bond by Robert Sellers, a fascinating account of the legal wrangles surrounding the novel/script/movie of Thunderball, which made me want to read some Fleming. But first, Pat Long's History of the NME bk (mainly for the early chapters, rather than the Britpop years)

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)

shirley jackson - we have always lived in the castle. kinda trying too hard southern gothic imo.

connie willis - the doomsday book. apparently in oxford in 2054 people still make trunk calls and use pound notes - (book was written in 1992, pound notes went out of circulation in the late 80s and not sure anyone has used the term "trunk call" since like 1950). Is it forgivable to not have seen the rise of mobile phones in 1992?

ledge, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

oh and an intro to heidegger. kinda hard to see his work as an ontology and not just a phenomenology tbh but i guess that's one for the philosophy thread.

ledge, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp alright northern gothic. american gothic.

ledge, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Vide the Great English Reversion of 2036

alimosina, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

There is a late 20th or early 21st century pandemic mentioned but this is no dystopia. They have video phones, just not personal ones, and a countrywide underground train network. There's just a quaint 1950s feel to her future, woollen goods and handbell ringing and overprotective provincial mothers straight out of enid blyton.

ledge, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

already? god that's depressing

idk i was really impressed/fascinated with it and just plowed through? haha i probably dont take my time enough i guess :/

Lamp, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Finally finished Midnight's Children, loved it. Then I read the challop-y Rushdie thread.

I have this advance of Tom B1ssell's new book of essays because a friend is reviewing it, but I don't know. I mostly know him from those video game pieces on Grantland that are alternately enjoyable and punchable.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

The Unborn: The Life and Teachings of Zen Master Bankei, 1622-1693, trans. Norman Wandell

A priest of the esoteric Shingon sect visited the master and said: "The principle of the Unborn in our school's meditation on the letter A contains the two gates of eliminating delusion and of actualizing fundamental reality. Wouldn't the teaching you expound fall into the latter category?"

"Come closer," Bankei said.

The priest moved forward.

Raising his voice, Bankei shouted, "What aspect is that!"

The priest was struck dumb.

A monk in the audience stuck out his tongue.

Träumerei, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

It's mostly plainspoken and quite funny, but that passage is kind of puzzling.

Träumerei, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Makes great sense to me.

Here comes this Shingon priest lauding his school for its mumbo-jumbo "meditation on the letter A" as being superior and he lays down some jargon he doesn't actually understand, so Bankei throws him a corker of an impromptu koan that he fails miserably to 'solve'. The monk in the audience then 'solves' it.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, maybe. I was trying to make literal sense of Bankei's question, since he's generally quite direct.

Träumerei, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

oh, Lamp, tender is the night is my fave! if you read it just before mansfield park, no wonder the latter is suffering.

i'm reading the rise and fall of the third reich. it's kind of a bummer.

horseshoe, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

Finished Harlot's Ghost on Monday after an intense effort this weekend. It goes without saying that it goes on for too long but please please please why couldn't Mailer have written a book's worth of transcripts between JFK and Modene/Exner.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

Reading 'Secondhand Daylight' by DJ Taylor. This and his earlier 'At the Chime of a City Clock' are entertaining, if not especially deep, attempts at PatrickHamilton/Julian Maclaren-Ross-writes-crime.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Friday, 13 April 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

Now I'm fantasizing about a whole subgenre of Nick Drake crime fiction.

OWLS 3D (R Baez), Friday, 13 April 2012 03:23 (thirteen years ago)

Just read The Other City by Michal Ajvaz, lots of fun but sometimes a bit much, I often ended up reading passages multiple times just because I couldn't remember if I'd read them already or not.

Read Red Shift a few weeks ago, after reading The Owl Service, which didn't quite prepare me for the level of brutality in the former. Still thinking about the ending.

JoeStork, Friday, 13 April 2012 05:28 (thirteen years ago)

The child-friendly cover of my edition of Red SHift is a bit misleading. Great book, though.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Friday, 13 April 2012 06:14 (thirteen years ago)

I've just started reading Jude The Obscure

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah jm, i think until the nyrb (o_o) ed i'd only ever seen it packaged as a kid's book

thomp, Friday, 13 April 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

Jude the Obscure is a wonderful book. Throwing pig entrails!

I'm reading an edited (condensed to 1100 pages) version of the Life of Giacomo Casanova. It is so airy and delightful, I'm really glad I picked it up on a whim.

I'm also reading Ursula LeGuin's Rocannan's World, and a few other Hainish novels. She is such a powerfully intelligent person, and it is sometimes a little intimidating.

fka snush (remy bean), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)

bernard cornwell - the last kingdom

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

Casanova's memoirs! I don't think I got any further than 300 pages into them (by the 20th seduction or so they got a bit too much for me), but I recall them fondly as a literary equivalent to champagne and caviar... for breakfast, luncheon and dinner. They do throw an interesting light on how the upper crust of society lived in his day.

Aimless, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

- A few short stories from the PKD short collection ('The Father Thing').

- Chekhov's Letters.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Hardy's one of my top five novelists.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Also read The Battle for Bond by Robert Sellers, a fascinating account of the legal wrangles surrounding the novel/script/movie of Thunderball, which made me want to read some Fleming. But first, Pat Long's History of the NME bk (mainly for the early chapters, rather than the Britpop years)

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:32 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is this why it was filmed 3 times in various Bond incarnations? If I'm thinking right it was done with Connery as Thunderball, then about 0 years later with Moore as The Spy Who Loved Me then a few years later with Connery again as Never Say Never Again.

The satelite swallowing spacecraft in the original becomes a warship swallowing submarines in Spy Who Loved Me & Little Nelly goes from being an autogyro to a waterscooter thingy

Stevolende, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

Reading MArk Yarm's Everybody Loves Our Town the grunge/Seattle oral history. It's pretty engrossing. I think oral histories tend to be.

Stevolende, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

i bought Tess at christmas just because it was cheap and english lit (where we did Madding Crowd) was the only exam i've ever failed. so this might just be masochism on my part.

have just finished A Tale Of Two Cities (bought at the same time)

currently re-reading, Anne Tyler's A Slipping Down Life.

have just ordered JG Ballard short stories vol 1.

koogs, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

not sure about Anne Tyler (my ignorance) but otherwise: good haul imo.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 April 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

I've read the first 5 vols of the full-length Casanova memoirs (there are 12 altogether): very much worth it, if you have the time!

Ellen Ullman: Close to the Machine--lovely book about early internet, being a female programmer in the 1970s-1990s, etc etc

Ahmed Khaled Towfik: Utopia--Egyptian dystopian SF. Really bad, gave up at p50

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 April 2012 03:20 (thirteen years ago)

Is this why it was filmed 3 times in various Bond incarnations? If I'm thinking right it was done with Connery as Thunderball, then about 0 years later with Moore as The Spy Who Loved Me then a few years later with Connery again as Never Say Never Again.

The satelite swallowing spacecraft in the original becomes a warship swallowing submarines in Spy Who Loved Me & Little Nelly goes from being an autogyro to a waterscooter thingy

the swallowing spacecraft & little nelly come from you only live twice, although the spy who loved me does seem to borrow other elements from thunderball (the underwater aspect mainly).

Touché Gödel (ledge), Saturday, 14 April 2012 07:26 (thirteen years ago)

That's a shame that Utopia is so dismal, bcz the 'Egyptian dystopian SF' genre has been mesmerizing me ever since I read that post

when will Jesus bring the composition chops? (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Enjoyed the A Slipping-Down Life's small-town rocker Drumstrings, esp. his seemingly random lyrics, which combined w looks got the sudiences going. Unusual to find a novelist w convincing lyrics, although entertained by the Iggy Dylan figure's terse verse in DeLillo's Great Jones Street, and Pynchon's not bad either. Insect Trust set "The Eyes of a New York Woman" to music and recorded it without asking permisssion, and TP said he was gonna sue, but liked the song too much.

dow, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

Fun Atlantic piece about the triviality of The Art of Fielding (haven't read the novel).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

That's a shame that Utopia is so dismal, bcz the 'Egyptian dystopian SF' genre has been mesmerizing me ever since I read that post

I know! That's why I bought it. But it's really shallow and super-cynical and nowhere near as clever as it think it is. Imagine the worst excesses of Warren Ellis and Richard Morgan combined, with none of the good aspects of either.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Sunday, 15 April 2012 07:57 (thirteen years ago)

never quite got Drumstrings' speaking out thing (which are all overheard snatches of conversation) and there were no other lyrics mentioned (maybe one couplet), can't see how it would ever work. i sometimes think the whole think is an excuse for those last few lines. (which i am a chapter away from but can remember from 1994 when i read it last)

that said he's still more believable than the band in iain banks' Espedair Street. banks always seems to get the music references everso slightly wrong.

koogs, Sunday, 15 April 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

I finished Worst Journey in the World. In the final pages, Apsley Cherry-Garrard tries to sum up the experience and its meaning. You can tell that, even after ten years, he is hopping mad at Amundson for concealing his plans to attempt the South Pole until he was already halfway to Antarctica.

His public reasoning is that such behavior was ungentlemanly and not Fair Play. But he is clearly also very angry that Amundson made it all look so easy, while Scott's expedition was so obviously a horrific nightmarish struggle that left at least five men frozen dead and the rest marked for life.

This contrast between the two expeditions was too glaring to be missed and tends to cast Scott in a poor light. He feels this situation to be grossly unjust, but he knows that no amount of explanation can ever wipe it away.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

"overheard snatches of conversation"--yes, Drumstrings talking to himself, and "come along if you can," as the Amboy Dukes put it. Also made me think of Murmur-era Stipe.

dow, Sunday, 15 April 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

i read "a slipping down life" long ago but i remember that guy reminding me of patti smith in concert, blabbing away and jamming on her clarinet

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Tim Weiner's Enemy, a history of the FBI, which, we learn, existed through various iterations as a gossip and dirty secret site. Illuminating but the prose is dreadful: two-sentence paragraphs, adverbs used twice in the same paragraph.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

Is this why it was filmed 3 times in various Bond incarnations? If I'm thinking right it was done with Connery as Thunderball, then about 0 years later with Moore as The Spy Who Loved Me then a few years later with Connery again as Never Say Never Again.

The satelite swallowing spacecraft in the original becomes a warship swallowing submarines in Spy Who Loved Me & Little Nelly goes from being an autogyro to a waterscooter thingy

The story is, prior to the Doctor No adaptation, Fleming collaborated with a producer called Kevin McClory and a screenwriter called Jack Wittingham on an original Bond screenplay entitled Thunderball. The movie never got off the ground, so Fleming turned the screenplay into the Bond novel Thunderball, without in any way acknowledging the significant contributions of McClory and Wittingham. McClory sued for plagarism (he was represented by Peter Carter-Ruck!), and won, in the process winning the right to make a Bond film based on the Thunderball material. McClory was given the producer credit on Thunderball (even though it was by and large a Saltzman/Broccoli production) and then years later resold the material to United Artists so that they could make Never Say Never Again with Connery. The underwater stuff in Spy Who Loved Me is not 'officially' drawn from the Thunderball material, tho' McClory continually threatened legal action over various infringements of the material he owned (he claimed, for example, to own the rights to the name and 'concept' of SPECTRE).

Ward Fowler, Monday, 16 April 2012 08:24 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, and all post-court case editions of the Thunderball novel include an acknowledgement of McClory and Whittingham's involvement, tucked away on the copyright page.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 16 April 2012 08:25 (thirteen years ago)

i was reading and enjoying gregg bordowitz's book on general idea's imagevirus project, the rainbow stories by william t. vollmann, and lorrie moore's first collection of short stories (self help), but then my backpack got stolen

1staethyr, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

I finally finished rereading Madame Bovary. I think the love affairs eventually made the writing sloppy. The villages and farms and provincial country life were best. Finally moving on to The Art of Fielding.

youn, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

Or love affairs are sloppy.

youn, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

A couple of days ago I read Mountain City, Gregory Martin. It's a kind of intimate portrait of a very remote town, population 33, in northern Nevada, with a good 50 miles of lonesome road between this hamlet and the next little town.

People who live in that much isolation, set against that empty and bleak a landscape, become very obviously individual. This book was a portrait of those few, mostly old and crotchety folks, along with a smattering of local history, written by the young guy who moved east and got him an MFA.

About 1/3 of Oregon is exactly as remote and empty as the place this book describes, so it seems familiar. I enjoyed it.

Aimless, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

aimless have you read the huntford dual bio of scott & amundsen? i've been meaning to for a while, i guess

thomp, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

nope. I've read Byrd's diary of an antarctic winter by himself in an isolated field station. he got carbon monoxide poisoning, but survived. barely.

Aimless, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:54 (thirteen years ago)

the writing in 'madame bovary' is sloppy? yikes!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 April 2012 08:08 (thirteen years ago)

What I read on holiday:

  • ILB favourite The Angel Esmerelda by Don DeLillo. I wrote about it a little upthread, thought it was excellent and especially enjoyed the Greek one, it intrigues me to maybe give The Names a go in due course (is that right?). But the later stories tail off a bit. The one with the daughters reading business reports is absurd, beyond parodic. I mean it flows fine and has a perfect ear for metre, but the whole premise is ridiculous. I'm left with the impression of a master who has run out of worthy subjects, the more so for its following the nuns story from Underworld, which is evidently what he was always building towards.
  • another ILB favourite Just Kids by Patti Smith. This is lovely. It makes me regretful that I wasn't the type of youngster who'd hang around people and hustle them for what I wanted, and generally give things a go - it shows how far the attitude can take you. Anyway, it's a sweet portrait of the fringes of the 60s/70s NYC era, the more appealing for having a likeable, modest guide. The only flaw I'd note is the common one that she keeps the modesty going a little too long, so that she's still presenting herself as a gawky, naïve youth even at times when she's e.g. got a regular record review column somewhere and pitching to Rolling Stone. But still, loved it.
  • My Father and Other Working Class Football Heroes by Gary Imlach. I can't do justice to how much I loved this. It's the author's repieceing of his dad's past as a professional footballer, from memory, press cuttings and rooting around after his death. It's so fascinating to both the football geek and British nostalgic in me, the look at ordinaryish life in community in 50s-70s Britain. It reminds me most of Blake Morrison's As If, without a harrowing subject matter, being a kind of deeply personal and reflective investigative journalism that I rarely see but often love (thread idea there maybe?). At heart it's the story of a nice man and his nice family, making their way harmlessly in a world bigger than them, which is very much how I rationalise my grandparents' lives - but if you wish, and I do, there's so much to enrage too, especially the way he was treated by the Scottish authorities. I feel kind of personally embarrassed by the pointless petty disrespect shown, which I'm afraid doesn't fill me with optimism for the future of the place (though I'm projecting somewhat). Anyway, do give it a go if that sounds interesting and you come across it.
  • I've started The Stones by Philip Norman, following on from the recent orgy on ILM. For fans obviously, but thus far it's a cracking read.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 April 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

  • musil
  • the strugatsky bros.
  • moody's pound bio
  • various philosophy stuff i don't understand

thomp, Friday, 20 April 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

Or love affairs are sloppy. But were they ever like Madame Bovary's? Why was her striving and living so empty? Why is she so unsympathetic?

youn, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

i feel like you didn't 'get' madame bovary

thomp, Friday, 20 April 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Probably not. And it's the 2nd time! I think I get that she is not supposed to be sympathetic but I don't find what she is completely satisfying for what I think she's supposed to depict but can't think of the right way to express when I should be getting ready for work!

youn, Friday, 20 April 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

she made mistakes, paid for them

Lamp, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:09 (thirteen years ago)

i am reading a bunch of 80s fantasy anthologies and dreaming of summer

Lamp, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

Flaubert's one of the few writers who chokes me up. Sympathy and contempt have rarely been shown as coterminous with such skill. Sometimes I can't get past the mistress and maid sobbing in each other's arms in "Un Coeur Simple" or Emma watching the sun rise at the chateau.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

Sentimantal Education>>Bobary imo

about Engel Esmaralda - the last stories are not as good as the older one's. the dry writing style, the lack of emotion..as if delillo became kinda lazy.

nostormo, Friday, 20 April 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

though it make perfect sense cause those stories were written from 2000 till 2011 - and he didnt write anything good whatsoever on that period

nostormo, Friday, 20 April 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

need to finish Tristram Shandy and Song of Solomon
about to start Stendhal's Charterhouse Of Parma. anyone read?

nostormo, Friday, 20 April 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

i am reading HOW TO WRITE by G. STEIN.

it is teaching me how to write. how to write paragraphs. and to write sentences. paragraphs are emotional, sentences are not.

j., Friday, 20 April 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

I agree. White space is good. It is a bad sign when there are no line breaks.

youn, Saturday, 21 April 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

about to start Stendhal's Charterhouse Of Parma. anyone read?
I liked it! I always have trouble retaining his plots after I'm done - so many machinations - but there's this queasy, hard-to-trace mix of sentimentality and cynicism in him that's pretty indelible.

bentelec, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

Everything up until the hero missing Waterloo is about as much fun as you can want in a novel. I can't blame Stendhal for the rest waning a bit in intensity.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

"trouble retaining his plots" so OTM. Far worse than Trollope but his main characters and ironic sense hold the strands together.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah,I read somewhere the plot is complicated
The Red And The Black didn't have this characteristic as I remember though

nostormo, Saturday, 21 April 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

A couple of Ballard short stories, then stopped to pick up One Man Biblie by Gao Xingjian. Lightly fictionalised non-fiction/autobiog covering the cultural revolution, his travels and encounters in the West, and a take on his own art (there is a three-page manifesto of sorts in the middle of this). Still thinking this through, but I think he takes a somewhat impressionistic turn when writing about women that kind of rubs against the political bits of the text.

That I stopped Ballard to pick this up is a sign of age, me thinks :-)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 April 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Ulysses, a book that I loved in 2011 and that I want to understand
Shakespearean Tragedy, by A. C. Bradley, basically my ideal critic

Träumerei, Saturday, 21 April 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

ha, my reading habits have been v spotty, but mostly when I read, I've been reading some Shakespeare criticism that's overdue at the various libraries I checked them out:

Shakespeare's Language by Frank Kermode
Shakespeare's Festive Comedy by C.L. Barber
The Great Feast of Language in Love's Labour's Lost by William C. Carroll

sorry if I already posted about these in another Reading thread...

when will Jesus bring the composition chops? (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 21 April 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

A mother lode at the library: new books on the Lawrence v. Texas case and the Reagan-Thatcher "special relationship."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

I have begun to read the Master of the Senate volume of Caro's bio of LBJ. 1040 pages. I have read the first 80 pp and Caro is still explaining everything that ever happened in the Senate from 1789 thru WWII. LBJ has not even started to run for senator, yet. He appeared briefly in the opening and hasn't been seen since.

Aimless, Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

those first one hundred twenty pages or so are the best -- a helluva history lesson.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Yes. He's still setting the table. I now expect to be served a feast.

Aimless, Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

definitely starting in the middle with those, i think

thomp, Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)

'the year of magical thinking' and 'underworld', still

Lamp, Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

reading updike bech: a book - lil weird cuz it doesnt read entirely like any updike ive ever read

also reading jg ballard - the atrocity exhibition & just got pulphead out of my lib*

*where, btw, i saw a woman return something called 'the guide to concealed handguns' on top of 3 childrens books lol

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Later Bech stories are even odder, esp. the one where he's a critic-murdering serial killer

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Monday, 23 April 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

Rereading The Last Samurai. Lord Leighton has got to be Updike, right?

JoeStork, Monday, 23 April 2012 05:02 (thirteen years ago)

Just finished two excellent but very different English country house novels: The Go-Between and Crome Yellow. Picked up the latter on a whim and was dazzled by how funny and quotable it is, mixing social comedy with little disquisitions on various intellectual fads of the 20s.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

Crome Yellow is excellent. I've always meant to read some more Huxley beyond that and Brave New World but i don't really know where to go next

Number None, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

'After Many a Summer' is a gd one - social satire that turns into a horror novel at the end

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

reading the new james brown bio which is pretty good but i wish it had more discussion of the music/writing process/recording process instead of focusing on his sociopolitical importance which i already know about

i've got "the vanishers" by heidi julavits (believer editor) lined up next, anyone else read it?

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

it's got a pretty sick cover at least

http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/03/07/the-vanishers-2_320.jpg

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

I picked up A Naked Singularity, by Sergio de la Pava. I'm only 86/678 pages in, but enjoying it thoroughly. I guess it's kind of a postmodern legal thriller - very funny and sharp. I have no idea where it's going.

Träumerei, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it's very good. Was originally self-published.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

xxp cover is gorg. read her 2nd book & remember liking it. have the 3rd one on my shelf i think

ive read a naked singularity too, def some good stuff in there. kinda less literary & almost a 'page-turner' imo

johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

i got a copy of PLINY.

and a copy of the HIPPOCRATIC CORPUS (well, not all of it). so far it looks awesome. especially the case histories, the last stage of most of which is: 'patient died'.

j., Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

Ha I was just reading about A Naked Singularity in ... Crain's Chicago today

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

i've got "the vanishers" by heidi julavits (believer editor) lined up next, anyone else read it?

i have a copy but have not read it. which i realize is p unhelpful

Lamp, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

so far im not really loving Pulphead btw. it's just ok, dont really get the hype, etc

johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

my friend who always tells me which books by women to read and for whom i am always arguing by proxy in gender + literature arguments really liked the vanishers. i need to read that.

horseshoe, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

Finished Doting, my first Henry Green novel in seven years, tonight. What dialogue.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)

j. is that PLINY the ELDER, or PLINY the YOUNGER?

Aimless, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:44 (thirteen years ago)

elder, i think. natural history. the intro has a bit about his son, who i gathered was the younger.

j., Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

The natural history stuff is def elder, the guy who died at Pompeii.

Aimless, Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)

I'm now 400 pp into Master of the Senate. If you've read your Thuycidides, Gibbon, etc. it will greatly reduce the number of lessons about politics and power that you'll learn from this book, but it is very well and clearly told, with ample details, but without becoming excessively bogged in them. This is history and biography at a very high level indeed.

Caro is especially good at explaining how terribly fucked up the U.S. Senate is during about 98% of its existance, while being invaluable the other 2% of the time.

Aimless, Friday, 27 April 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Covering some of the tame terrain, Two Americans, about the careers of Truman and Eisenhower is a real find. After a tentative start it analyzes their presidential legacies: responses to civil rights and liberties, Supreme Court appointments, stewardship of the embryonic national security state.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

crikey Jude The Obscure is a bit bleak, innit?

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

'We are too many.'

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Saturday, 28 April 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

Father Time!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

Chehkov's letters - for his struggles w/what is coming out of Tolstoy's mind.

Celine - Journey to the End of the Night. Love how he is keeping back the rants and ellipses and exclamations, his sense of timing is so good when he is using a character to bomb drop rants, and how he alternates w/ normal writing and plotting.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

Henry Green's Back, the oddest and least successful of his novels.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

"the vanishers" was pretty crazy. i think i liked it.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

have been put of action for a while - stil dipping into Lanchester for belligerent amusement. also Rewriting the Soul by Ian Hacking. Very good (as a layperson) analysis of the history and nature of multiple personality diagnosis.

Plus - SORDELLO!!!!! first book was like, "lol sordello haterz are lightweights".

p certain I understood less about book 2 than I understood. Browning's fault entirely btw.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ive started reading <i>The Ginger Man</i> by JP Donleavy. I could do with something light-hearted and racy for a change.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)

Reading:

Technicolor Timemachine by Harry Harrison

Before this I read City by Simak.

jel --, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

I finished Philip Norman's The Stones. Compelling stuff, though it peters out rather oddly - everything after Altamont is taken at an increasingly speedy canter, which I suppose reflects that getting to the top is a lot more interesting than being there, but is also told with a journalistic shallowness, as if he filed copy at the time and saw no reason to go back and rewrite to match the first three-quarters of the book. And the epilogue is used solely to catch up with Wyman and Loog Oldham, which is an extremely strange way to end.

It was great fun though. He's excellent on Jones, and clearly fascinated by the phenomenon of Jagger. I'd've liked more on the music, on which there's little after Beggar's Banquet, but small complaints really.

Now started Graham Greene's The Power And The Glory. I'd wanted to try The Names by DeLillo, but this was the closest I had.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 May 2012 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

Ismael, have you tried Keith Richard's autobio? I've read most of it through the mid-60s--it's huge, and may well have too much on the later years--but so far, he's quite a good writer--reproduces an early postcard to his auntie, and it's so Keef,so pungent, fits in so well--no ghosting necessary, it seems,

dow, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Ah no, that's a thought! I did buy it when it came out, then gave it away as a Christmas present instead. I should borrow it back.

I think that postcard's in The Stones too, actually - he comes across as quite the loveable rogue, even as a delinquent fifteen-year-old or whatever.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

finally finished my dune series reread and am now onto a book club book, atwood's blind assassin. it's OK so far and i'm not terribly engrossed but seems like it'll pick up soon.

rayuela, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

i saw two people reading the blind assassin on the train yesterday, is it some kind of national/international book club?

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

what am i reading? i'm re-reading the steve jobs bio

markers, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

the keith biog was ghostwritten by an English (non-rock) author named james fox, who is best known for writing the non-fiction bk 'White Mischief'. Fox gets a v clear credit in the bk itself.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

i did LOL when jennifer egan turns up in the jobs bio

Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

yes, it is. xp to n/a

rayuela, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Shogun. i liked the cover, like the King Rat film and have been having a japanese phase lately. struggling though. it reads like every criticism of dan brown i've seen and after 3 weeks i'm only 1/4 of the way through it, with 700+ pages left...

(it's also written with a 1975 audience in mind, explaining japanese things in tedious detail, how to pronounce samurai, tatami mats, taking your shoes off, bowing, all the stuff a 2012 audience probably knows. that said, it'll also launch into paragraphs of japanese political history from time to time, lots of long named people and places)

koogs, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

I finished that book of Tom Bissell book of essays, pretty enjoyable if slight. I liked some of the early ones where he's clearly insecure about his status/future as a writer, i.e. 'Writing About Writing About Writing', and the Herzog one. It inspired me to fill in some gaps in my Herzog-watching.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Now I'm reading Moby Dick, for real this time.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

i finally read true grit, which was amazing and too short. now i'm reading this, not sure about it, doesn't seem like "my thing" but i don't have anything else lined up so i'm sticking with it for now:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r8Dl6ghRmNc/T3EVHfOHtBI/AAAAAAAAAKY/RCgbDswmw6U/s1600/Captain+Flint.JPG

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

oh before true grit i was reading that new book about the wrecking crew, which was not good - very light, anecdotal, scattershot

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

^^ I like the cover on that Dybek book. Very appealing, imo.

Aimless, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

Beckett's trilogy - s'ok. 'Careful', as Kenner said. I kind of wanted to search any works of philosophy B was reading at the time he was writing it by the end. Just for the sake of it, you understand.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

that cover is both very well executed and very much "that sort of thing"

beckett is not 'okay'

thomp, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

xpost should've noticed the James Fox co-credit, though it's def "Richards' voice filtered through Fox's brain...Fox encouraged Richard to let his mind 'dart about." No prob!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/10/27/keith-richards-memoir-writer-james-fox-speaks.html

dow, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

when I get home I expect to find the new Caro

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Julian Barnes - Sense Of Ending.
quite good, but isnt it a bit overrated? or maybe i needed to lower my expectations.in the middle of it though

nostormo, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

finished Tina Fey's Bossypants audiobook. audiobooks are decidedly not my thing.

now back to avoiding reading A House for Mr. Biswas (library copy, third renewal)

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

thomp - nah, it is ok. Felt like I've been here before, a familiar territory. I wanted more laughs really.

Thomas Bernhard - Correction.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 May 2012 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

Several things
Fug You by Ed Sanders, his 60s memoir. So far he's been mimeographing Fuck You a journal of the Arts and giving it away free. It's 1963 and he's living in the Village, think he's just stopped working the night shift in a cigar store and got a job in a more official role somewhere.
He's mentioned having met Tulli and Steve Weber while handing out copies of the zine.

Prophets and Sages Mark Powell's list of favourite prog/underground lps with varying length description. Interesting and obviously meaning that I'm going to have to buy a lot of cds.

Mountains Come Out of the Sky
american progfan's history of the genre. Wish the publishers hadn't taked him out of including a chapter on VDGG. Whjat's here is interesting, or at least maybe I've just got to the end of the sections I find interesting 2/3s of the way through the book.

Marina Warner No Go The Bogeyman
book on negative male stereotypes in folklore that I've had out of local library since around xmas. Just been getting heavily into it and hopefully have it finished soon then I can start on the other Marina Warner I have on female stereotypes.

Journal of The Dead
a book about the trial of a college age guy who kills his friend in the desert as an act of mercy because they've come stupidly unprepared with water and gotten hopelessly lost.

Stevolende, Sunday, 6 May 2012 10:20 (thirteen years ago)

Selected Essays by John Berger: (Ber-Jer) - Don't always agree, but you gotta salute the man's rigor. All heavy lifting and sweat.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:48 (thirteen years ago)

love the fact that berger gave his booker prize money to the black panthers

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 07:52 (thirteen years ago)

he wha

thomp, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 08:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5319/6950947296_8e92bf54a8_m.jpg

calumerio, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:32 (thirteen years ago)

Berger's novel G., a romantic picaresque set in Europe in 1898, won both the James Tait Black Memorial Prize and the Booker Prize in 1972. When accepting the Booker Berger made a point of donating half his cash prize to the Black Panther Party in Britain, and retaining half to support his work on the study of migrant workers that became A Seventh Man, insisting on both as necessary parts of his political struggle.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

Reading Mrs Dalloway while ill. Reminds me of when I used to read stoned many years ago. The slippery, sensual prose and overlapping narratives are perfect for a slightly addled brain.

Tried Tropic of Cancer yet again but fuck Henry Miller basically.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

Laurie Lee - Cider with Rosie -- wonderful; also reading while ill (besides this, have been bingeing on Donald Westlake books)

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Friday, 11 May 2012 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

What's your favourite Westlake? He's perfect when you need something cruel and murderous.

Träumerei, Friday, 11 May 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)

My fourth attempt at Mann's Doctor Faustus. Wish me luck!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 02:32 (thirteen years ago)

Good luck!

Westlake - a friend has convinced me to take on some of Westlake's Dortmunder, being, thus far, a strict Parker addict. Soon (I hope).

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Friday, 11 May 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)

The Parker books are probably my favourite, but the Dortmunders are lots of fun (if very different--very quippy, full of puns and tomfoolery,more like Lawrence Block's "Burglar" books). I also really like a lot of the Westlake singletons, especially the ones Hard Case Crime have resurrected. 'Memory' is a great existentialist noir, barely a crime novel, and 'The Comedy is Finished' is a brutal bit of black humour.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Friday, 11 May 2012 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

i prefer westlake's non-dortmunder comic novels to most of the dortmunder novs, apart from maybe the first two (i think he wrote too many dortmunders, they became rather baggy and formulaic as the series progressed). these stand-alones are all terrific - the fugitive pigeon, help i am being held prisoner, dancing aztecs, too much, the busy body.

pat rice memorial barbecue (Ward Fowler), Friday, 11 May 2012 08:05 (thirteen years ago)

The Art of Fielding was much much better than I expected.

although there is also sweetness
in saying a name over and over again

It's not reinforcement just repetition (for some people)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?pagewanted=all

youn, Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:15 (thirteen years ago)

finally hitting the home stretch of lolita
some conrad
yeats
a stack of NYers
want to get around to the second half of charlie savage's takeover before life gets crazy again in june

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

reading 'final cut' the recounting of the heavens gate fiasco, it's great so far

almost done w/ the updike bech book, parts of it are fabulous imo

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

what the hell was bledsoe doing giving up on chasing conley btw?

also, wondering, would that be a clear path?

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:03 (thirteen years ago)

hm, wrong thread ha

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:03 (thirteen years ago)

Can't believe I hadn't got round to Doctor Faustus. It was The Magic Mountain's fault!

A few stories by Borges

Pessoa - The Book of Disquiet

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 May 2012 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

alan bullock - hitler: a study in tyranny (abridged edition)

will hermes - love goes to building on fire

reading these simultaneously, which is unusual, I'm mostly a one-book guy. bullock is way better duh. the content in hermes is OK, form not so much

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 12 May 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

man i loved doctor faustus

why, this is hell, nor am i out of it

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)

I made a significant dent in it but I've less patience with Mann's disquisitions on chords and Christianity than I did when I loved The Magic Mountain all those years ago.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

oh i didn't realize we were talking about the novel! haven't read that

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

xp Oh I love Final Cut. Some people find it too long but I love the day-by-day pacing, the detail, the sense of slowly encroaching doom, the wider sense of what Hollywood was like in the late 70s. And for someone whose day job was a studio exec Bach was one hell of a writer. I think it might be my favourite movie book.

Get wolves (DL), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Am starting The Best Short Stories of Ring Lardner: its overdue already, so I don't know if I'll have time to read all the way through it. I've read a few of these anyways (Haircut, Alibi Ike, There are Smiles).

First story is 'The Maysville Minstrel' and it is astonishing. Easily one of the most cold-blooded things I've ever read.

cinco de extra mayo (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 12 May 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

xp yes, loving Bach, he reconstructs the landscape @ the time & the process v well. im only exactly up to where they green light the film so i srsly cant wait for it to continue (left it @ work to read on lunch breaks)

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 May 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

Lytton Strachey - Eminent Victorians
Peter Seibel - Coders at Work

o. nate, Sunday, 13 May 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)

infinite jest. the title is only just an exaggeration but I guess "very long but consistently funny" didn't scan as well?

thomasintrouble, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

'varamo' by césar aira. i felt mostly adrift i guess and it was sort of like idk these old tricks, this old debate, why arent i playing video games...

Lamp, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 06:37 (thirteen years ago)

I've read four Aira novels, and I don't quite know if I like them or not. A positive sign is that I'm tempted to read more, and even reread a couple of them. But while I'm reading them, I'm not particularly excited about it.

He rather reminds me of A.E. van Vogt with his rather absurd stories that take sharp turns all over the place. I believe van Vogt's trick when writing was to have a new idea or plot twist every n-hundred words. All I know about Aira's writing is that he apparently doesn't rewrite, and just keeps going from where he last stopped; I imagine this is common for pulp writers.

Øystein, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

The best books in my Westlake spree were definitely The Ax and an early Dortmunder, Jimmy the Kid, where Dortmunder's gang use a (non-existent) Parker novel as a blueprint for a supposedly perfect crime.

Also read Mr Chartwell by Rebecca Hunt, which was OK but not the work of boggling greatness everyone seems to have thought it was, and The Crocodile by Dostevsky, which is entertaining but then just stops at an arbitrary point without any sort of finish.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

Reading Mary Gaitskill for the first time! Her second story collection.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

The Ax is really great. Tough, sophisticated satire. Ethan Iverson says in his guide that Donald wrote it in only three weeks.

Yesterday I read The Seventh, by Richard Stark. Absurd body count. The ending is like a nightmare.

Träumerei, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

swamplandia! by karen russell.not really loving it.bit whimsical,humour falls flat,maybe a bit boring.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

didn't like the short stories

ed mcbain's 'ax' was one of his best also, i wonder if there's something in this

thomp, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

Otherwise, dabbling confusedly in Ezra Pound, which I may put aside in order to try to get better at reading in French. I'm finding volume three of Proust really rewarding at the moment.

Träumerei, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

A Man Asleep by Georges Perec - You know those private thoughts and sensations you have re: depression/inertia that never quite get a proper description anywhere? Perec seems to nail one of those per page.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

i love mary gaitskill. this essay by her is what convinced me to pick up one of her books a few years ago.

i'm reading a collection of four novels by marguerite duras, which so far has been remarkable. the first one, the square, is a really great exploration of like, inactivity and perhaps fear of happiness that i found myself over-relating to (maybe same territory as the perec book?)

1staethyr, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

Claire Tomalin's bio of Katherine Mansfield -- pretty good

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

My reading, adapted to travel exigencies: Alice in Wonderland and Alice's Adventures Through the Looking Glass. This is a very heavily footnoted edition put out by Penguin, which has made me aware of the existance of Carroll's academic fanboys, who dissect his every phrase, competing to see who can unearth (or invent) the most clues and references. This has a certain amusement value.

My next book will almost certainly be Ten Days That Shook the World, but I also have Suetonius with me.

Aimless, Friday, 18 May 2012 07:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/09/Reed-tendays-1922.jpg

Ooh, I've quite fancied seeking that one out. Give us a decent review in time please, see if it's worth it. I love that cover btw, hope you have one like it.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 08:42 (thirteen years ago)

Heh, Amazon lists a 1905 edition. If only someone had bought the Tsar a copy.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

Italo Calvino - Six Memos for the Next Millennium

about to start - Gunter Grass - Dog Years

nostormo, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Mary Gaitskill's Because They Wanted To is so tough, so poetic, so unpretentiously ambitious and achieving, on her daily bike ride through the winds of empty lots, across the table and mountains of mortal soil (yeah, she might be listening to Mastodon). Just another Woody Guthrie, rolling by the femme tops, boondock implosives, collegetown conundrums and Big City topless salad bar dancers midway through their MFAs. Also like Edward P. Jones's first collection, Lost In The City.

dow, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

That is, I like Edward ect. not saying it's like Gaitskill's collection.

dow, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

violette leduc - la batarde

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

Dostoevsky, Demons. in the ubiquitous new translation, of course. been enjoying it so far (midway thru part I)

Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Friday, 18 May 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

there's a new translation? i only just bought an old translation

thomp, Friday, 18 May 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

I finished the Gaitskill collection in one gulp, which is not what I do often with books of short stories. I like the recurring tropes: drifters, lesbian, voyeurism, psychodrivel

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

I finished The Power And The Glory by Graham Greene just now. It was marvellous. It's the story of a fugitive priest, fleeing for his life in a Mexican state where atheism is imposed by the gun. It's all about suffering, and repentance, and fate and suchlike. The little human details he gives his characters, even when he isn't hardly sketching them out, is very moving, and nobody here is spared sympathy.

Somebody on one of these threads referred to slim, serious 200-page novels as being a peculiarly British thing to pull off (from memory they may even have been talking about Brighton Rock). I don't know if that's right, but it's certainly something to aspire to. The Power And The Glory may be the best of them.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

Lytton Strachey - Eminent Victorians

I feel I should be reading him. His sister Dorothy wrote a beautiful novella, Olivia, about adolescent heartache.

Träumerei, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

Under The Jaguar Sun by Italo Calvino - Continuing ye olde school OULIPO members trend. Second story ("The King Listens") very good.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Friday, 18 May 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

Ismael, I don't remember if Brighton Rock is 200 pages, but it's tight, and indeed a serious thriller--from before he tried to rope off his "entertainments" from his serious-serious (he might not have been serious about the distinction, just testing us). 21 Stories is excellent bedside/lunchbreak/whatevs

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

The Power and the Glory is a wonderful, wonderful book. But I'm a huge Greene fan in any case. I don't think any of his novels went over 300-odd pages at the longest.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Saturday, 19 May 2012 09:08 (thirteen years ago)

The Pevear and Volokhonsky translation of Demons is the only translation under that title iirc? All the other ones were called 'The Possessed' or 'The Devils'

Whatever its name, on some days, its my favorite Dostoyevsky besides Crime and Punishment

Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)

finished blind assassin. it got interesting later on and reached a point where i did want to find out what was going to happen next, but it took way too long to get interesting -- only my commitment to the book club helped me get through the first part. without that motivation, i would have quit halfway through for a more interesting book.

started musil's man without qualities after all the discussion here. i like it so far, but every time i sit next to someone with an e-reader, i groan at the size of this book.

a woman across from me on my AM commute was reading Left Hand of Darkness! I wanted to say something to her but i was way too cranky and because i thought she might not welcoming being accosted by a stranger who likes the book she is reading.

rayuela, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

Also reading Man Without Qualities, began at vol 3 this round (so no groaning from me as they are perfectly manageable on the train), together with a few poems by Pessoa and Antonio Tabucchi's Requiem. I expect Pessoa fans like him?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

what i've been reading lately:
the language wars by henry hitchings - lots of interesting stuff in there but didn't finish it
modern baptists by james wilcox - pretty great - recommended on the charles portis thread and is definitely in the portis tradition

just started:
treasure island!!! by sara levine

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 May 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

alternate dostoevsky titles are great fun -- c.f. 'memoirs from a mousehole.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

Henry Green's memoir Pack My Bag. I could read this man's sentences for hours.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Pack My Bag! Modern Baptists! Alfred and n/a reading some great books.

Partway through 3-novella collection by Stanley Elkin -- Van Gogh's Room at Arles. Really liked the first one, about a wheelchair-bound professorwith degenerative disease whose wife leaves him just before he's meant to host a party for his grad students. Now reading the title novella, which features a Club of the Portraits of the Descendents of the People Painted by Vincent Van Gogh.

Until now, have for a long time been combining Stanley Elkin and Stanley Ellin my head.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

man i read all of "treasure island!!!" today and i recommend it if you want something quick and very funny

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:40 (thirteen years ago)

n/a, you should read Plain and Normal if you liked Wilcox. He's one of the few modern writers who makes me laugh out loud.

The New Yorker published a long appreciation in its '94 fiction issue that did a lot to promote his books and assure his reputation.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

I think I read an Elkin short story that I loved but damned if I can remember the name or what it was about :-/

Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

maybe the Elkin story was "A Poetics for Bullies." That one's absolutely fantastic and has been anthologized a bunch.

I'm finishing up Robert Coover's "The Public Burning." Quite good but his maximalism can be hit-and-miss with me.

Romeo Jones, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

It was "I Look Out for Ed Wolfe" and I would have to re-read it before I endorse it on this thread. But I remember liking it lots.

Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)

Found a (copyright infringing) copy of "A Poetics for Bullies" online--will read now

http://fictiondaze.blogspot.com.au/2004/06/poetics-for-bullies.html

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

You know how you save one book or album by a favorite artist for when you come 'round to them again? Woolf's Night and Day is one of them. I know it's 'transitional' and so on. Is it still worth a read?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

Cool. I'll have to check out "I look out for ed wolfe" (endorsement or no). I hope I can get around to finally reading Elkin's "The Magic Kingdom" this summer. I've had a copy of it forever.

Romeo Jones, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

"Tell My Horse" - Zora Neale Hurston
"The Secret of Evil" - Roverto Bolano

Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

thanks for the tip, alfred, going to the library in search of more wilcox today

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

Just finished off "A Farewell to Arms" which was much better than I expected! Now I am going to get started on "The Line of Beauty", which will be my first ever attempt to read a book on an electronic device.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

The last 100 pages of "The Public Burning" was mind-blowingly great.
I just started Ishmael Reed's "Mumbo Jumbo."

Romeo Jones, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Derek Raymond 'How the Dead Live'
Dodie Smith 'I Capture the Castle'

Two books that are pretty much polar opposites

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

I've been reading lots of Pelecanos and early James Ellroy. With the weather starting to get soupy hot I just want to read about people being murdered.

Ashes, Pits of Ashes (leavethecapital), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

Currently alternating between Patrick Hamilton's Slaves of Solitude, Sullivan's Pulphead and Howard Zinn depending on mood. I counted up the books next to my bed that I've either started or am eager to read: 32. They basically form another bedside table. Given that, if I'm not travelling anywhere, I have maybe an hour's reading a day the only solution is to break a limb or two. Does anyone else have this gluttony problem? It's not as if I feel duty-bound to read any of them - there's genuine enthusiasm for all over them but it's completely unfocussed and it puts me off reading longer books that will consume me for weeks.

Get wolves (DL), Friday, 25 May 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

xx post

i read several Derek Raymond novels earlier this year, still not sure what to make of him

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Friday, 25 May 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

Lethem plugs NYRB re-issues of Hamilton in current Rolling Stone. Visiting the thickets of Faulkner's "The Bear" again, dropping my compass several times.

dow, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

But it's captivating (big ol' bear arms)

dow, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

Was on a highly isolated vacation for the past week, read:

The Hesperides Tree, by Nicholas Mosley (oddly compelling, even though it doesn't really make any sense and the dialogue is unbelievable)
Ball Four, by Jim Bouton (lots of fun, far more melancholy than I remembered)
Riddley Walker, by Russell Hoban (loved it, will probably be talking to people about it for weeks)

Currently reading The Collaborators by Pierre Siniac, which is highly entertaining, though the gruesome plot twist halfway through seems rather out of place.

JoeStork, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

The Names by DeLillo. An inauspicious opening: six people talking in a car driving around Athens. I'm underwhelmed by any conversation of his involving more than two people. It's a problem I have to an extent with most authors I guess (and in real life too!) but he gives you so little to go on by way of physical or relationship markers that I find it next-to-impossible to follow. No idea who is who other than that two are married, and a third is the narrator.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

I'm within a few pages of finishing Ten Days That Shook the World. Reed excells at adding a pulsating excitement to his reportage which may in many ways falsely color the actions of the Russian October Revolution, but seems essentially true to the mental excitement, the tension, fears and utopian hopes felt by the participants.

If the actions were as mundane as driving a truck full of soldiers down the street or sending a courier to the print shop with an order to print a proclamation, Reed will have the truck careening, the soldiers gesticulating, and the courier shooting electric sparks from his eyes. But it probably felt like that.

The other real strength of the book is that Reed collected and includes extensive excerpts from the hundreds of flyers pasted up on walls and newspapers printed by all the rival factions. These ephemera of the revolution are full of high flown rhetoric, but very interesting and ultimately quite revealing. That, plus Reed was a good enough journalist that he reports rumors as being rumors, hearsay as hearsay and only things he witnessed or could verify as being facts.

Once you figure out the dozen or so fractious factions struggling with one another for supremacy, it is a fascinating book (for those who like this sort of thing).

Aimless, Friday, 25 May 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Does anyone else have this gluttony problem?

*raises hand*

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 May 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

jeez, "Spotted Horses": rambunctious action and cracking wise, with glancing rococo, all sliding into the sucker punch of sheer logic.

dow, Saturday, 26 May 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

The Guermantes Way

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

just finished several of merimee's short stories - "carmen" is as good as its reputation suggests, and i enjoyed a good deal "the venus of ille" as well. i think i have some affinity for snobbish narrators, though

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Monday, 28 May 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

Brand new Ugly Things which dropped through the door today. Got covers tory interview with Johnny Echols of Love & review of the later Arthur Lee solo lp Black Beauty.
Also on cover is Group 1850 who have a band history inside.
Plus an article on the Electric Eels, Glam, History of The Craig of I Must Be Mad fame plus enough other stuff to keep you reading for 2 weeks or so.
Looks as good as usual, which is very.

also Hugh Cornwell's autobio which I picked up from the library. Pretty interesting so far, not fully chronological but he's got the band together and they've been playing on the punk scene so far.

REd Cross First aid manual to try to help me get through a 1st aid course i'm doing and didn't do overly well on a spot test last week then had to miss tonight for a work related do.

Stevolende, Monday, 28 May 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

I started reading The Invention of Morel late last night and I wish I'd been able to finish it in one sitting. I knew it was on influence on Lost but I didn't realise it was so direct - strange island, lavish modern compound built by people who are no longer around, mysterious visitors. It also says on the back it inspired Last Year on Marienbad but the blurb is pleasingly vague about what it's actually about so I'm hyped to finish it tonight.

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Well that was incredible.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Hoy, en esta isla, ha ocurrido un milagro. El verano se adelantó.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

invention of morel is grebt.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

http://ia700206.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/23/items/olcovers70/olcovers70-L.zip&file=708747-L.jpg

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

roberto bolano "the savage detectives"
baudelaire "les fleurs du mal"

flopson, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

i love summer reading

flopson, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

Turgenev: Rudin

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

It's lovely.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

once i get into my summer reading groove it's so hard to do anything else

flopson, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

Finished 'Demons'. Not sure what I can say, except
..... dusty-dusty him sad =(

Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

dusty-dusty him sad

What does this mean?

Träumerei, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

It's the ILB board description--I can't find the exact reference, but it was one ILX person's 3-year-old daughter's description of 'Notes from Underground' (I think), based on her fatehr's description of the plot: "Dusty-dusty all sad in him room."

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Friday, 1 June 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

FATHER's description

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Friday, 1 June 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

by far the sweetest ilx running joke of all time.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 1 June 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

Very sweet. I've been puzzling over that board description for months.

Träumerei, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

i have that 'apocalypse culture' & dip into it occassionally. i cant really do crackpot anymore tho

finished phil roth - 'patrimony'

started reading 'the great gatsby'! & also richard ford 'wildlife'

johnny crunch, Friday, 1 June 2012 02:02 (thirteen years ago)

Here's the dusty-dusty original:
The two year old's guide to Dostoevsky

woof, Friday, 1 June 2012 09:10 (thirteen years ago)

Reading The Cantos, as noted elsewhere on ILB.
Rereading Mason & Dixon. Love it very much.
Some history on the side. 1688 by Steven Pincus, British Politics in the Age of Anne by Geoffrey Holmes. Getting my c18th head back on.

woof, Friday, 1 June 2012 10:26 (thirteen years ago)

xpost reminds me I've been thinking about tracking down Jeff Nuttall's Bomb Culture, which I found fascinating in the 70s (memoir of/thoughts on 50s/60s bohemian arts [not only party, work]scenes, situations, subtexts, etc)Still reading the sec edition of The Portable Faulkner, engrossing, but now he's got me tuned up to his usual standards, and finally seeing "A Rose For Emily" as not meeting those; no flights or insights to adjust the awkwardly carpentered bits (so why is it his most anthologized and maybe taught)

dow, Friday, 1 June 2012 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Because it's a very accessible way to present a lot of his idiosyncratic techniques (jumbled narrative, Gothic atmosphere, town's eye view). I myself am more partial to "That Evening Sun", "Red Leaves", and "Dry September".

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 2 June 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

The Work Of Hipgnosis: Walk Away Rene
a 2nd handbook on Hipgnosis that i found in my local 2nd hand/remainder bookshop yesterday. Nice images.

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 June 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

Finished "Eminent Victorians" - Strachey's no doubt a masterful stylist, very suave and urbane. Not all the Victorian figures are of such interest these days though - probably the Arnold section was the least interesting to me, but even that had it's moments.

Now I'm reading the "Crazy Horse" bio by Larry McMurtry.

o. nate, Sunday, 3 June 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

Thought about reading that McMurtry book, but feel like Crazy Horse: A Lakota Life, by Kingsley M. Bray, might be the way to go. Also have been reading The Killing of Crazy Horse, by Thomas Powers.

I don't know what to read so I am reading it here (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2012 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

Well, it's less than 150 pages long, so if you don't end up liking it, you haven't wasted too much time. It started off a bit slow, but it seems to be picking up. If it has a weakness, I'd say it's a bit of uncertainty about the target audience - at times it reads like it's aimed at experts who are familiar with the literature, and other times it tries to be an introduction for general readers. (Clearly I fall much more into the general reader camp.)

o. nate, Sunday, 3 June 2012 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

Fair enough. There is also that Stephen Ambrose dual biography of Custer and Crazy Horse.

I don't know what to read so I am reading it here (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2012 02:35 (thirteen years ago)

Finished Laurent Binet's HHhH, which was pretty gripping. The actual prose is nothing special (though that could be the translator, who is a bad writer of English novels), but the story and the telling of it are really amazing.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

When I returned from France I had about 250 pp to go in Master of the Senate. I just finished that up and now I am midway through re-reading Suetonius' The Twelve Caesars, in the Robert Graves translation.

The Suetonius is amazingly rich in incidental details about Roman life and habits which appear only because of some minor anecdote about an emperor. More 'normal' histories always leave out much of normal life. It's like gleaning single grains that are fallen to the ground in a harvested field.

Aimless, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Dire couple of months has meant I've read near as nothing. I'm now reading or am about to read some things at the behest of others - Hyde Park Gate News - The Stephen Family Newspaper (Virginia Woolf, Vanessa Bell with Thoby Stephen). The newspaper produced by these children in their very early teens. Don't look like that, some of it is perfectly charming.

I've just finished that, then I will read Mrs Dalloway. I haven't read it before and apparently I must.

Also Wolf Hall - just bought my mum Bring Up the Bodies, and she kept on saying I must (again!) read Wolf Hall, so I said in a burst of filial affection that I would.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'm on The Wings of the Dove, a book I'm finding difficult - not exactly obscure, but unintuitive. I have to think carefully about each sentence.

jim, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

f. scott fitzgerald -- 'bernice bobs her hair and other stories'
john green -- 'the fault in our stars'
james mcpherson -- 'battle cry of freedom'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

"Bernice Bobs Her Hair" is the perfect short story. Great teen fiction too.

Me:

Moby Dick
some Pink Floyd bio

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

john green -- 'the fault in our stars'

What IS this? it's everywhere.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

guy who writes young-adult novels full of snarky dialogue, basically. a bunch of my friends are crazy about him. he's pretty good for what he is, though the too-perfect characters kind of get on my nerves.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:36 (thirteen years ago)

Cracked. just sitting in my armchair reading The Best of Myles. The Dalkey Archive thread is getting me excited. Might just pretend I've read Mrs Dalloway and Wolf Hall.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

swamplandia! (OK I guess)
super sad true love story (OK to p.good)
the fear-index (drivel)

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

Finished "Crazy Horse" - at only 140 short pages, it seemed perhaps a bit breezy, but it serves as a decent introduction and it has a nice annotated bibliography for further reading.

Now I'm reading Ian McEwan's "Atonement", part of my effort to read more fiction.

o. nate, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Reflections on the Name of the Rose Umberto Eco talking about influences etc on the writing of his medieval detective novel. Interesting and very short. 74pp.
I like reading Eco but hadn't come across the Prague Cemetery which is what I was looking for in the library when I found this. Had just seen it in my local 2d hand/remainder bookshop. Hope to get hold of it when it comes back into the library in a few days time, hopefully.

Stevolende, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Simon Reynolds - Retromania
Nathaniel Hawthorne - The Scarlet Letter
Nathaniel Hawthorne - House of the Seven Gables
Marguerite Yourcenar - Memoirs of Hadrian
Iris Murdoch - The Bell

Zuleika, Sunday, 10 June 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

finished Bill Carter - The War for Late Night
The behind the scenes stuff is boring and about what you'd expect. Way too much space devoted to things that were seen on the air. Most interesting part was Leno's scheming with/against Kimmel when it looked like Leno was going to ABC.

now reading
Noam Scheiber - The Escape Artists
Lots of speculation and unnamed sources. I might bail on this one.

Lev Grossman - The Magicians
got bumped up in my reading list because of his Time article on genre fiction. no opinion yet.

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Sunday, 10 June 2012 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

Sinclair Lewis - It Can't Happen Here.

I'd never read any Lewis before and was pleasantly surprised. Great page-turning thriller with a sharp, ironic tone and lots of ideas about the different factions of the 30s left, like the ongoing rows between the liberal, the socialist and the communist, who are all ostensibly on the same side. Striking how little populist rhetoric has changed since the 30s - the big difference being that the dictator (because of Huey Long) is a Democrat.

I'm surprised that (as far as I know) nobody's done a joint biography of the lions of the literary left 1900-40 - Lewis, Sinclair, Dreiser, Dos Passos, Steinbeck. So many points of overlap, so many fierce disagreements and splits.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 11 June 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

Lardner deserves a spot. That lewis book sounds awesome. I'm definitely coming to a place where I should give him a go.

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 11 June 2012 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

It was also impressively early - Hitler had only been Chancellor for two years and Fuhrer for one when Lewis wrote it. And it spawned everything from The Plot Against America to V -"the NBC executives rejected the initial version, claiming it was too "cerebral" for the average American viewer. To make the script more marketable, the American fascists were re-cast as man-eating extraterrestrials." (Wikipedia)

Would anyone recommend the likes of Main Street and Babbitt? I assumed they're taught in American high schools but Lewis has no profile in the UK really. My father-in-law saw me reading this and said, "I bet you're literally the only person in the country reading Sinclair Lewis right now."

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

I read Babbitt yeeeeeears ago and it's on my short list of books to revisit. I've read strong defenses of Lewis over the years.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

dunno if he's still taught in high school (you're right: until the eighties it was one of those staples).

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

Lewis and Dorothy Thompson come off as the Couple From Hell in several literary memoirs--maybe worse than Scott and Zelda--with Red getting even more unbearable after becoming the first American novelist to win the Nobel. No doubt some of that's pot to kettle, unless no other writers are up-front egomaniacs. Anyway, although it's been decades, I was impressed, though not awestruck by Kingsblood Royal. A well-to-do Dad decides it's time finally to confirm the very reasonable suspiction that he and his progeny come from the finest stuff, so gets his son to rustle up the family tree. What Junior does discover stays undercover, while he consorts with Negroes. They tell him about a lot of things he and I had never, ever heard of--including, maybe, the Duluth lynchings eventually cited as possible references in "Desolation Row."

dow, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

still soldiering through the leduc but i have out from the library:

james purdy - eustace chisholm and the works
denton welch - a voice through a cloud
lillian faderman - surpassing the love of men (already dipped into this a bit)
and a book on super 8mm filmmaking

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Monday, 11 June 2012 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Babbitt is lots of cynical fun

Now reading 'The Swap' by Antony moore, which is also fun but not brilliant -- a man's life goes to hell because of a copy of Superman #1 he traded away as a child

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Monday, 11 June 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

(irritatingly referred to throughout as 'Superman One', as though it was a movie or a boat something)

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

whoa i’m reading a voice through a cloud also! i actually just sent a longish email about it to a friend. i’m enjoying it a lot; the only other thing i’ve read of his is in youth is pleasure.

1staethyr, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

same (and the unfinished novella that accompanies the edition i have) - i loved it tho. i also own 'maiden voyage'

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 04:54 (thirteen years ago)

Back to Sinclair Lewis, just for a sec if u don't mind: is Arrowsmith (lol) the one that deals with the American-in-Paris theme?

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 04:57 (thirteen years ago)

'human, all too human'
'molloy'
'shakespeare the thinker'
la bruyere, 'characters'

j., Tuesday, 12 June 2012 06:49 (thirteen years ago)

Was thinking it was Sinclair Lewis that wrote the novel on Sacco and Vanzetti I read a few years back. I just realised that's Upton Sinclair.

Think I at least started Elmer Gantry years ago, not sure if I finished.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 07:52 (thirteen years ago)

Lewis, Sinclair, Dreiser, Dos Passos,

i went thru a 20th century realism phase in my early/mid 20s with these guys. Dos Passos' trilogy blew me away. wondering how they all read now.

would include John O'Hara too though he was a generation or so younger. Not exactly a prose master but O'Hara wrote about class in the US v well.

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

richard powers, 'the echo maker'

thomp, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

Dos Passos' USA trilogy is grrrrrrrrreat!

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

reading swann's way, the lydia davis translation. am enjoying it way more than I thought I would! I had to return the ginormous musil to the library after being only like 100 pages in, so I think I'm giving up on that for now.

rayuela, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

even though i was enjoying it

rayuela, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

xps to self: *ccording to wiki, the Lewis novel I was asking about was not Arrowsmith, but Dodsworth.

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

I was intimidated by the size of USA for years, despite reading and loving Manhattan Transfer at university. Finally got around to it last year. There's so much going on, and the structure is so tight, that it has an incredible sense of pace for a book that long - some storylines were stronger than others but I was never bored.

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like 1916 (or w/e the middle one is called) is a black sheep candidate for Great American novel

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

Brushing up on Marxism. Am getting this soon:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21MCzG%2BZVzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/images/shining/All%20Work%20and%20No%20Play%20Paperback.jpg

calstars, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

^^That's a counterrevolutionary text. What you need is this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dawC1iVYL._SL500_.jpg

alimosina, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

Jan Morris: Hav

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 07:21 (thirteen years ago)

Dos Passos' USA trilogy is grrrrrrrrreat!

― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Finally brought my omnibus edition of USA back to where I'm living after it's been sitting on a shelf at my mother's place for 20+ years. Now it's back sitting on a shelf. Will get aroun dto reading it at some point before tooo long.
Also got his Three Soldiers part read sitting in my bag. should try to finish that before I start too many other new things.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 07:27 (thirteen years ago)

Did read USA when I was given it for Xmas/Birthday. That was late 80s though.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 07:29 (thirteen years ago)

xp I've read one of Noebel's books - Rhythm, Riots and Revolution - which is as hilarious as you'd expect. Learned last year that he was a big influence on Michelle Bachmann.

I think USA fits my idea of the Great American Novel better than anything else - it really tries to encompass the entire country in a way that other contenders don't. Favourite bits are the beautifully written capsule bios of historical figures. You could compile those into a book on their own and it would be a miniature classic.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)

I was thinking we should read Swann's Way (in the glorious Lydia Davis translation, but it doesn't matter) for the summer ILX book club.

Reading the Tao. Strikes a diff knd of resonance for 'fans' of improv group AMM, a group that is not active anymore and yet it is always active, in a sense. Only about 100 people in the world will understand what I'm talking about, 2-3 of which might read this thread.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

Man, I loved those little bios

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

I was thinking we should read Swann's Way (in the glorious Lydia Davis translation, but it doesn't matter) for the summer ILX book club.

i second this!

rayuela, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Richard Ford Canada. Really slow opening, hope it picks up.

calstars, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)

I finished The Names by DeLillo. It was ... a disappointment? I'd had a brief interest in Greece and was hoping for a sense of place from it, but there was almost nothing evocative bar a passage driving around the peninsula surrounded by bare rock. Wrong author to pick maybe, though I know he can do it.

More problematic is the premise, these various professionals becoming interested in a tiny language cult to the extent of following them for thousands of miles, but for no discernible sensible reason. It's just really odd, to spend years there and that's what you come up with. It does lead to the only prolonged worthwhile passage: Brademas' trek across India on their trail, there's so much life there.

I can imagine people getting the same out of Underworld. Hitherto its negative appraisals have kinda annoyed me, because I did get so much from it, but I think I understand now. The Names feels like a shallower, less pointed rehearsal.

The post this week brought me the new Alan Furst, and Hemingway's Men Without Women. I'm tempted to give the latter a go first.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago)

For a sense of Greece and where its culture came from in the near past, try Patrick Leigh Fermor's books, Mani and Roumeli. They are all about village culture in Greece circa the 1930s. Village culture changes slowly.

Aimless, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago)

Thanks. I was looking for something urban I think.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago)

Margaret Cheney -Tesla Man out of time: Biography of Tesla, did not really like the way it was written, felt the author lacked a certain critical distance wrt to her subject. Were I to believe her, Tesla basically invented everything that was invented in the 20th century, except he did it before and no one knew about it or understood his genius. Still on the whole it was an interesting read, more thanks to Tesla himself than the author

Laurent Binet - HHhH: an interesting read about the plot to murder Heydrich. The author goes about telling us this assassination story and guides us through his research and his refusal to write a novel/fiction. At some points he can be a bit tiresome when he really insists that he wants to get everything right and not have to invent stuff (like on 2-3 different occasions he goes on about whether Heydrich's car was black or dark green... once is ok, second time you're like "ok, we get it" by the third time it starts being annoying). Still, it made for a gripping read, especially since I was mostly ignorant about this episode. It kept me up late enough.

Jibe, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:00 (twelve years ago)

HhHh has had some hype here. I'd quite fancied it because the Heydrich story is a fascinating one, but I picked it up in a shop and it looked really confusing.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:17 (twelve years ago)

HhHh has had hype here, I should've said.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:17 (twelve years ago)

It's actually quite straight forward and easy to read, I breezed through the book in a couple of hours.. It's just like any novel except once in a while Binet breaks through and explains stuff about the research he's done etc.

Jibe, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago)

looking for something urban

In Greece, urban is synonymous with Athens. Thessaloniki would also qualify, and imo it is underrated as a city, but finding anything about it that has been translated to english would probably be a chore.

I own a copy of a book by Peter Levi called The Hill of Kronos, which is a non-fic about life in Athens under the junta of the colonels (circa late 1960s). Not exactly what you're looking for, but def worth reading. You will come away from it with a deeper admiration for George Seferis.

Aimless, Monday, 18 June 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago)

In the same vein, though been a long time since I read Oriana Fallaci's A Man, found it very vivid perspective(and sufficiently lucid, at least for me--might be more journalistic fiction than anything else, but engrossing descriptions of urban Greece; here's good background from Fallaci's Wiki bio:
In the early 1970s Fallaci had an affair with the subject of one of her interviews, Alexandros Panagoulis, who had been a solitary figure in the Greek resistance against the 1967 dictatorship, having been captured, heavily tortured and imprisoned for his (unsuccessful) assassination attempt on dictator and ex-Colonel Georgios Papadopoulos. Panagoulis died in 1976, under controversial circumstances, in a road accident. Fallaci maintained that Panagoulis was assassinated by remnants of the Greek military junta and her book Un Uomo (A Man) was inspired by his life.

dow, Monday, 18 June 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, HHhH is not hard to get to grips with at all: the underlying story is so fascinating it would be hard to fuck up, and Binet doesn't

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago)

Reading Evan S Connell's 'Mrs Bridge', which is sooooo good. And so I see that they're not republishing the companion novel, Mr Bridge, for another year. Fuck. I Will have to go library hunting.

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago)

reading 'beautiful ruins' by jess walter - super breezy, page-turner v good for summer

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago)

stendhal, 'love'

j., Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago)

xxpost

yeah i loved Mr & Mrs Bridge as well. Connell is a singular talent. his novel Diary of a Rapist is noir, psychologically intense. Then there's his non-fiction. Deus Lo Volt is a history of the crusades written in a weird approximation of the language of that time. I didn't get too far in that one TBH.

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:47 (twelve years ago)

Finished Faulkner's The Wild Palms, a minor work that crumbles in its last third and is barely coherent period but wow amazing writing.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 11:02 (twelve years ago)

Now reading Stephanie Vaughn's 'Sweet Talk', a really great book of short stories from 1990. Anyone who likes Lorrie Moore will like this, I would think.

Characteristic passage:

“Well, it just went poof,” she said once, explaining to my father and grandmother where the grocery money had gone and why we were having hot dogs once again for our Sunday dinner. “Like that,” she said, and her hands described baroque scrolls of smoke above her dinner plate. It seemed to me that with her hands she might produce, out of the imaginary smoke, an emerald bird, inside of which would be a golden egg, inside of which would be a lifetime supply of grocery money.
My father, ever mindful of my education, cast a meaningful eye my way and said, “Although a hot dog on a bun is not the feast we had all hoped for this afternoon, let us remember that it contains more protein than the average Chinese person eats in a week.”
“I am not a Chinese,” my grandmother said, looking sideways at my mother. “I am a Protestant.”

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago)

Elizabeth Drew's Showdown, about the '95 battles b/w Congress and Bill Clinton. Hell of a reporter with unexpected analytical skills.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago)

Alfred, I haven't read all of The Wild Palms, but finally finished expanded edition of The Portable Faulkner, thought "Old Man" was pretty compelling (editor says it's by far the best section of The Wild Palms). A peak example of Faulkner's lucid sociopolitical detail times imaginative description. Three-four things in this collection I could do without, but otherwise good-to-great.

dow, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago)

Wild Palms alternated chapters between Old Man and the depressing love story, correct?

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago)

yep

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago)

I haven't sated my appetite for minor Faulkner, so now I'm reading "Mountain Victory" after reading "Dry September" and "That Evening Sun" and wondering why we always get goddamn "A Rose for Emily" in anthologies.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I was wondering the same thing upthread, most of The Portable upstages "A Rose." Intriguing to imagine "Old Man" in alternating chapters, like a really well-done Saturday matinee cliffhanger serial--but alternating with a "depressing love story" doesn't sound so inviting. Cowley says Faulkner hit on the idea as counterpoint, and maybe to keep himself interested--maybe he found the love story depressing too.

dow, Thursday, 21 June 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago)

John Grant: 'The City in These Pages' - metaphysical scifi tribute novella to Ed McBain 87th Precinct novels

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 June 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago)

I picked up a collection of non-fiction short pieces by Jonathan Lethem, the guy who wrote Fortress of Solitude and other stuff, from the public library. It is called The Ecstasy of Influence, which is fine, but they could just as easily titled it A Lot of Bits of Non-Fiction Writing We Put Into a Book. So far, it isn't boring me to tears, but it isn't knocking my sox off either.

The core problem is that Lethem doesn't seem to have many outside interests besides writing novels and reading comics and science fiction. He's no Jorge Borges. He's not even a Gore Vidal. But he does write readable prose and has ideas in his head, so I give him a somewhat shaky 'B'. I'm pretty sure I will finish it.

Aimless, Thursday, 21 June 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago)

Man, I love "That Evening Sun". Another of my favorite stories is "Red Leaves", which I think is also in The Portable.

Alfred, have you read The Hamlet? It's the first of the Snopes trilogy.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 21 June 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago)

The core problem is that Lethem doesn't seem to have many outside interests besides writing novels and reading comics and science fiction. He's no Jorge Borges. He's not even a Gore Vidal.

I don't get enough surprise from Lethem. His formative cultural influences were identical to those of numberless thousands of other nerdy American boys of a certain time. (I lived in his neighborhood for years so the local details were familiar too.)

"Always Crashing in the Same Car": I recognized one of Cortazar's stories in there. But why write it? This is Lethem's commentary it toto:

Or maybe I did want to spin some turntables, at least for a minute or two. My first fiction after "The Ecstacy of Influence" was this collage. Count it as one of several money-put-where-mouth-is gestures but also as a confession of the addictive qualities of the scissors and pastepot. After the bogus dissertation of "Ecstacy," this was a Rauchenberg collage, and it was a relief to let the torn paper and glue blobs be obvious.

There's a certain decisive note that I want to hear, but what's being performed is indecision in the face of possibilities and a lackadaisical indifference. He's making an aesthetic program out of his unwillingness to be decisive or in earnest.

Bowie's Low was famously built up by formal methods. But using a title of one of the songs, decades later, for an exercise in literary collage: what new step is taken? There is nothing as dependent on its sources as collage. Is Lethem going to be the eternal college freshman, name-checking and making projects out of his favorite books and records? Somebody prove me wrong, please.

alimosina, Thursday, 21 June 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzfeu52dFx1qhal0to1_500.jpg

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago)

Is Lethem going to be the eternal college freshman, name-checking and making projects out of his favorite books and records?

yep. unless something or someone shocks him out of complacency

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago)

The core problem is that Lethem doesn't seem to have many outside interests besides writing novels and reading comics and science fiction.

I had the same problem with the book. Not a crippling flaw in itself, but he's unable to be no more than fitfully compelling about his passions, which takes us back to not having read enough to toughen his statements with correspondences and allusions.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago)

Alfred, have you read The Hamlet? It's the first of the Snopes trilogy.

yep – years ago and loved it. I may read the other two in the next week.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:14 (twelve years ago)

The core problem is that Lethem doesn't seem to have many outside interests besides writing novels and reading comics and science fiction

nothing wrong w/digging deep into your passions but there's a self-satisfied insularity and lack of curiosity to lethem that is typical of gen x/indie types. perhaps this is why he's been elevated to generational spokesman status. like aimless, i can read him but he really doesn't speak to my passions at all.

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:14 (twelve years ago)

Margaret Cheney -Tesla Man out of time: Biography of Tesla, did not really like the way it was written, felt the author lacked a certain critical distance wrt to her subject...Still on the whole it was an interesting read, more thanks to Tesla himself than the author

I had more or less the same reaction. There is a strange cult around Tesla - die-hard defenders of his legacy who still feel that his genius was slighted - partisans who still hold a grudge against Edison. I'm not sure exactly how it got started. I guess he is a classic example of the misunderstood genius who dies forgotten. Also in his lifetime, he was a great promoter of his own genius and a dazzling showman, at times also a bit of a charlatan. He dropped enough mysterious hints and made enough grandiose claims to fuel the imagination of a gaggle of conspiracy theorists. Despite all that he is a fascinating figure, though perhaps difficult to discern through the mythologizing.

o. nate, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago)

Seems like there are a bunch of Tesla bios out there. one recent one is written by is nephew, I think. I thought he seemed like an interesting character but I couldn't figure out which one to read, so thanks for helping by eliminating that one.

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago)

I finished Hemingway's Men Without Women. Exceptionally good. It's a collection of (mostly very) short stories featuring men doing things that men do - not all tough guy stuff either, there's plenty of weakness and vulnerability, but it is all very male in its way.

I feel like Hemingway has dropped out-of-fashion somewhat: I only ever see him parodied, or hear him discussed as a guide to technique. The content of the stories is something, though - especially where it's the absence of content, so you have to do the work to get to what the story's about. In a way it feels slightly cheaty as a way of drawing interest, but oof it's effective.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago)

yeah it's a good idea to return to Hemingway after you've abandoned him for years. I had to teach "Indian Camp" in class a couple years ago and -- well, I'd been away from it for so long it was like reading it fresh.

Also helps to reread less anthologized pieces I've always enjoyed like "The Battler."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago)

Prague Cemetery, only just started it. Looks interesting though.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago)

i think i'm okay with hemingway having dropped out of fashion tbh

i just read the new volume of the robert caro johnson biog. he's actually kind of a really bad writer? which is part of why it's compelling? i guess?

and now i am reading libra and being like: huh. sentences.

thomp, Friday, 22 June 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago)

Caro a bad writer? Wow. There's some slippage in the new volume. Its predecessors are what I want from American historical writing.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago)

he is the george r.r. martin of american historical writing then

thomp, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:00 (twelve years ago)

i don't know, i haven't read the first three. how many times total would you say he reminds you that LBJ grew up on a failed ranch, and felt the sting of poverty from an early age, and the taste of failure, and the smell of the other children's insults ringing in his eyes? and that he told them he would be president, and oh, how they laughed, but, oh, now he was a powerful man?

thomp, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:02 (twelve years ago)

i got the impression that there's been a slight revival of interest in Hemingway, maybe because of woody allen lol, maybe because of the paul hendrickson bk:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/jan/08/ernest-hemingway-boat-hendrickson-review

Ward Fowler, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:04 (twelve years ago)

I suggest reading the first hundred fifty pages of MOTS -- a history of the Senate -- for an example of sustained concentration.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago)

I don't remember so many instances of Caro sprinkling tics like this in the earlier volumes: "He thought, he plotted, he agonized, he consulted -- and then he acted."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:21 (twelve years ago)

the george martin thing came to mind when reading because that fellow has developed a tic of having significant phrases from the focalized character's past keep popping up as a sort of entry-level interior monologue.

and caro will use a tag of something johnson said once ("we'll bury him in arlington") as a kind of shorthand in a way that ends up being more and more meaningless. (although i think the story that led johnson to say "we'll bury him in arlington" is summarised at least three times.) maybe it needed an edit? i don't know. he does similar things with bobby kennedy and harry byrd.

a lot of the time the book's self-conception seems off; johnson's interior life an endlessly reiterated cartoon, but no larger analysis of the social to counterbalance it. i mean, johnson would probably be an endlessly dull person to psychoanalyse, but the book seems to periodically forget that it's about johnson as synecdoche for the stakes and confines of american political power midcentury -- maybe because there's quite so little to do with the vice-presidential years, i don't know.

thomp, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago)

Caro assumes that if you've gotten this far you know how he's depicted, as you write, the stakes and confines of American political power, hence the use of "motifs" like We'll bury him in Arlington.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:43 (twelve years ago)

The first and third volumes concentrate on exactly what you say: the accumulation and use of power into the hands of a man of extraordinary volatility.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago)

and now i am reading libra and being like: huh. sentences.
You mean he's good at composing sentences, compared to Caro?

dow, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago)

Libra is so easily De Lillo's greatest book. Unfortunately it's also the first one I read so nothing since, not even White Noise or Underworld, has matched it.

Get wolves (DL), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago)

De Lillo only works when either you or he believe in the conspiracy kitsch he peddles.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago)

Just about to finish Goodwin's "Team of Rivals.". Can anyone recommend a good history of the Reconstruction era?

Moreno, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago)

Libra Underworld is so easily De Lillo's greatest book.

Romeo Jones, Friday, 22 June 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago)

(but both Libra and Underworld tend to divide people, I think.)

Romeo Jones, Friday, 22 June 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago)

I'm starting on If On a Winter Night .... by Calvino; finishing up Anita Loos' "But Gentleman Marry Brunettes" (the sequel to the superior, so far, "Gentleman Prefer Blondes"); and wondering if I should read the second half of Miriam Hansen's "Babel and Babylon" (great film theory stuff but I don't think I want to get into the case studies on Rudolph Valentino and DW Griffith's "Intolerance" at the moment).

Romeo Jones, Friday, 22 June 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago)

Just about to finish Goodwin's "Team of Rivals.". Can anyone recommend a good history of the Reconstruction era?

eric foner's 'reconstruction' is the standard one, tho he also wrote a shorter one (not an abridged version, a completely different book IIRC). there's a newish book on andrew johnson that's probably worth reading too.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago)

OK, according to wikipedia it actually is an abridged version.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago)

just started caro

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:19 (twelve years ago)

I read this Johnson bio last year. What it lacks in elegance it makes up for in facts.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago)

It's startling to think that for years high schoolers (including me) were taught that the Radical Republicans were the enemies bent on the destruction of poor incompetent Andrew Johnson. It was an age of insufferable megalmaniacs but still.

Foner's book on slavery and Lincoln from a few years ago is in the top tier of Lincoln books, written with acuity. I just saw this is out. Anyone read it?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago)

Cesar Vallejo - Spain, Take this Chalice away from Me (and Other Poems). So many solid quotes on that one. Possibly prefer Eshleman's re-writing but I suspect any translation of Vallejo would work for me on some level.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago)

that Foner link is pretty intriguing, esp the timeline. Just discovered my local library has Bolano's 2626. Never read him, should I start with that or order--what?

dow, Saturday, 23 June 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago)

Savage Detectives, then 2666

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 24 June 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago)

The Transfiguration of the Commonplace - Arthur C Danto
Strange Days Indeed: The Golden Age of Paranoia - Francis Wheen (Wheen on the 70s - fairly typical - peerless collection of period clippings, quotes, anecdotes, but organising principles a bit lax and not really one for ideas, which I suppose oddly makes it resemble:)
Man and the Natural World - Keith Thomas

woof, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago)

rushdie's "midnight's children" -- reading for book club, and only 100 pages in but already enjoying it far more than atwood's blind assassin (our last book club book...) -- interrupted swann's way to get this read in time for our book club meeting but also wondering if i no longer have the attention span to read a long, ponderous book like the proust series. even tho i was enjoying it, it was easy to put down and not pick back up.

rayuela, Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago)

Fatigue does set in, its inevitable, took me about about mid-way for that to happen.

Poems by Tsetaeva, and more by Vallejo - wanna type some bits but there is so much to choose from and I need to go.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago)

Anyone read any of Eudora Welty's novels?

I'm reading Lawrence's Travels in Italy -- some of the most limpid prose I've ever read. Also: Conversations with Robert Penn Warren.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago)

Parmy Olson's We are Anonymous: it's about the whole anonymous thing and lulz sec. even though most of the stories related in there are far from unknown, it was quite interesting to have someone who had access to the people on the inside recount the thing.

Michael Pollan's The Omnivore's Dilemma: ok so same here it's about all the HFCS and stuff, so things that are far from being unknown (though not having checked the publication date, maybe he was one of the people who brought that topic up to public opinion). my main issue so far is that it feels like a book written for twelve year-old kids or something. i just really don't like the way he writes.

Jibe, Friday, 29 June 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago)

Reading Richard Price's Bloodbrothers--took some time to get into, but it's really getting good. Price is great at creating plausible and unique characters with depth.

can you believe they put a man otm (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago)

I love Bloodbrothers. Price's early work seems a bit neglected these days but it's a lot more fun than the post-Clockers stuff (even though i do like those books for what they are)

Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago)

Finally, a book I have a comment about! Bloodbrothers is devastating in a way that a lot of Price's other books aren't for me. When I finished it, I felt like I had been through the ringer.

I also think Richard Price is better at writing female characters than he thinks he is.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago)

I actually kind of thought the mother was being unfairly maligned at first--that is, until chapter 7, which is where I stopped reading for a while. When I picked it back up to re-read it, it hit me really hard...

can you believe they put a man otm (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago)

I just came back from a camping trip, during which I read The Crying of Lot 49. This is the second Pynchon I have attempted (the first was Gravity's Rainbow) and the first I have finished. While I found it diverting, I did not find it, as it so ardently wished itself to be found, an effective vehicle for the initiation of a train of profound thoughts.

The first 40 pp or so did have a few stylistic quirks based in odd US verbalisms, that I thought were amusing, in a jarring sort of way. However, Pynchon rather quickly ditched this avenue of play in favor of a different pursuit, upon themes I did not think were especially engaging, such as paranoia and degrees of reality granted to second or third hand reportage.

It was ok. I'm glad it wasn't as long as Moby Dick.

Aimless, Saturday, 30 June 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago)

I didn't much like Lot 49 my first go-around either. I've heard it much improves on re-reading tho.

can you believe they put a man otm (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 30 June 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago)

i love pynchon and i've read 'lot 49' like five times but i've never really been drawn to think about it.

(i think i have said so elsewhere on a pynchon thread.)

j., Saturday, 30 June 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago)

Read it twice, ditto. There's a very heavy baby-boomer feel to it which isn't particularly appealing to me.

Jesu swept (ledge), Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago)

Tsvetaeva, above, with the pynchonian V.

Gulcher - Richard Meltzer. I loved A Whore Like the Rest. There is a kind of uh Berthesian feel to this collection of bits and pieces on cultural blah: lots on sports (wrestling to boxing to baseball), cigarettes, and it looks like he'll move onto tits. I'll see what he'll say on that.

Reminded me of Vital Signs by Penman, but this is more unified, all written from a very partic POV and something about fandom and culture in general operating (but written in that beat fashion which I find rough going), whereas VS were pieces written over 20 years and for publication at different magazines, they feel a lot more apart (to the detriment of that collection).

When he throws a line on music I do perk up, he makes little connections on fandom or the way people respond to things (music or boxing) is similar: so the way a person will list their fave boxers of all time is hilarious as putting a Public Enemy album at no.9 etc.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago)

Don't feel so bad, Aimless. Lot 49 and Inherent Vice are the only Pynchon I've loved.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago)

xpost

fwiw I think Meltzer's best book far and away is LA Is The Capitol of Kansas, funnier and a bit less self-conscious than his other work. A Whore Like The Rest, despite its epic length, actually LEAVES OUT the best music stuff he wrote for the Village Voice. yeah we already knew he's perverse

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 30 June 2012 11:58 (twelve years ago)

I love those early Richard Price coming-of-age novels, more than his later sociological crime stories (which are good)

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago)

Thanks m coleman (thought you'd have something to say on Meltzer :-)) so I'll look for that.

Interesting a lot of the Voice stuff was left out - hopefully it will be collected/already has...will look.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago)

here's my all-time favorite by Meltzer from the November 13 1978 Village Voice. p.68 "Buy A VTR and Rule The World" hilarious and so prescient.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=KEtq3P1Vf8oC&dat=19781113&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

check the cover story by Richard Price (synchronicity!) on The Wanderers movie set. this article inspired me to search out his books backintheday

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago)

i think you either like 'lot 49' and are indifferent to pynchon's other work, or vice-versa.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 30 June 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago)

Aimless is still potentially the exception to that rule.

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago)

Not true for me. Regardless of a particular work's limitations, Pynchon's gifts have always appealed to me, ever since I read "The Secret Integration" in the 60s. I was about the same age as the kid characters, and Pynchon might say that's what it would take to like that story. judging by his restless introduction to Slow Learner, the collected apprentice fiction (some stories are still out there somewhere). He didn't want Lot 49 published as a stand-alone, and he says he'd misunderstood entrophy (should be thought of as "work energy," he says in the intro--like the breakdown of combustion, I take it). Also claims still not to know what "tendril" means; he just used words like that cos they sounded cool. But he can't believe how good some of it is, like it was done gnomes coming out of his typewriter or something like that--either way, he feels distanced from all this stuff, and would in several cases like to feel more. But how oh how to reconcile bright invention with some deep dark themes, how not to be just a talent bimbo or another savior of Western Civ? (See Luc Sante's NYRB review of Dylan's Chronicles, also in Sante's Kill All Your Darlings) V. is the breakthough, or at least the crucial warm-up for his running leap at Gravity's Rainbow.

dow, Saturday, 30 June 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago)

Mind you, the opening pages of his latest, that hipster detective story or whatever, seemed to squirm with self-consciousness. But maybe I'll give it another shot.

dow, Saturday, 30 June 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago)

i didn't say i didn't like it, j.d. i have just never thought anything about it, unlike his other books.

j., Sunday, 1 July 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago)

(having just written this rambling post feel shdn't be posting it here, other than it seems as decent a 'general chat about books' place as any.)

There shd be a long list of books here, because I just went to British Library exhibition Writing Britain.

It was a bit rubbish.

The organising principles, as represented by the groupings of works and the title they were grouped under, seemed by turns vague, unhelpful, misleading, and without any overall structure. With a subject as large as 'Writing Britain' there has to be some kind of argument, or underpinning set of principles. The section headings were occasionally a little weird - 'Dark Satanic Mills', fine, but in a section that didn't include ANY Blake, just mainly 19th C thru Victorian novels, bleeding into some stuff about the contemporary workplace (David Lodge's Nice Work in a glass box, with a catalogue entry by it, really?).

Also, if you're displaying books and manuscripts, you've really got to have a catalogue that situates them as objects. This object you are seeing before has this context, and this meaning for the subject in hand. Ok, so from time to time you'd have 'Wordsworth wrote Tintern Abbey when he yadda yadda', or 'Keats wrote this letter to his brother Tom while on a walking holiday in Scotland' (great! I enjoyed peering at Keats' massive letter with tiny writing). But there wasn't much more than that. Occasionally it would be as bad as 'Disraeli wrote a book about social divisions, called Sybil, here is an edition of Sybil'. Well, maybe never quite as bad as that, but I thought it shd have worked a lot harder at making the objects talk. These are garrulous, companionable and informative objects, but they go silent under a glass case. Lots of dodging your head about trying to nix the reflection, and squinting at your enforced distance, decoding handwriting from the neatly miniscule (19th century women writers + RLS) to the formally incomprehensible (yes, you, William Dunbar).

Good things!

Done Keats' letter - huge and with a sonnet in the top left-hand corner. Good letter.

Gerald of Wales' 12th Century Topographia Hibernica with a marginal illustration of a werewolf asking a priest to administer last rites to his werewolf friend. At least, the catalogue note said werewolf, and indeed said they were mentioned as such in the text, but thinking about it, the normal interpretation of animals in mariginal drawings would be via fables and exemplars, although strange creatures like the anthropophagi and ape-pygmies do also appear. Anyway, good picture.

Manuscript of Crash with Ballard's emendations.

Victorian board game, which was a map of Britain, where you had to progress from the Thames Estuary, round the country, with its various industries and back again. Looked incredibly not fun, but I don't like board games and anyway the map was good.

BEST bit of writing was a letter written to John Betjeman complaining that one of his Metroland poems was historically inaccurate, ended with this

I remember Willesden Green station when it was lit only by oil lamps, and one left it into unlighted lanes with hedges, which is my first recollection of Walm Lane. I remember walking to Cricklewood and being so frightened of the loneliness of it all that I turned tail and scuttled back home again as fast as I could!

I quite like Cricklewood - it's nothing like London - but for some reason that description seems to me strangely still pertinent somehow.

Most surprising thing I didn't know - John Galsworthy was a fuckin NOBEL LAUREATE?

Most unsurprising thing I knew already - typewriters really are the only tool for creative writing. The pen is too laborious, generally, the computer too much like writing in water if you're not careful, but the combination of permanence, clarity and immediacy of typewritten manuscripts puts them in first place for me.

Oh, couple of other things:

Wales shamefully under-represented (as was Cornwall). Conan-Doyle half mentioned as a decent suburban writer, but no mention of Arthur Machen, also an exceptional writer of London and suburbia. I know you're constrained by your exhibits, but not to have The Hill of Dreams anywhere is bizarre. (He was represented by a quote on a board, from his excellent autobiography Far Off Things. Also, no Jocelyn Brooke, scant mention of the Powys clan (they could have joined them thru John Ireland - they had soundscapes and Mai Dun would have fit in nicely), Chesterton, yes, but no Belloc. YES he's a cunt, YES he should have been in there.

This is why you need an argument, because without it, you become necessarily inclusive, and with such a large subject, it becomes patchy and somewhat incomprehensible.

They probably could have done more with the representation of words in the landscape. Especially considering their gates were designed by the wife of David Kindersley, who proposed an effective and attractive national design for roadsigns, was himself apprenticed to Eric Gill (font+literary sculpture of Prospero and a big-willied Ariel on the front of Broadcasting House), who was a student of Edward Johnston, designer of the font used on the tube. A bit more imagination, plus a bit more rigor might've produced a better exhibition.

Oh, and an entire section on London but NOTHING on Henry Mayhew (Neil Gaiman, by contrast, seems to have his grubby fingers everywhere).

Still, plenty of bits to enjoy here, just feel more could have been done with it. Wouldn't have minded something I'd disagreed with more - it all just felt a bit nebulous.

If you live in Thanet and fancy doing some creative knitting (Fizzles), Sunday, 1 July 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago)

Greatly enjoying yr description, thanks. "Conan-Dyle half mentioned as a decent suburban writer"? half-decent when writing about suburbia (who cares) or half-decent period? Seems unfair, esp if they're that open to xpost Gaiman's grubby fingers. What typewriter would you recommend?

dow, Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago)

"Conan-Dyle half mentioned as a decent suburban writer"? half-decent when writing about suburbia (who cares) or half-decent period? Seems unfair

I care! Late Victorian interest in its suburbs has the flavour of a new landscape being explored. Take this description from Machen - often excellent on suburbia:

Before me was the long suburban street, its dreary distance marked by rows of twinkling lamps, and the air was poisoned by the faint, sickly smell of burning bricks; it was not a cheerful prospect by any means, and I had to walk through nine miles of such streets, deserted as those of Pompeii. I knew pretty well what direction to take, so I set out wearily, looking at the stretch of lamps vanishing in perspective: and as I walked street after street branched off to right and left, some far reaching, to distances that seemed endless, communicating with other systems of thoroughfare, and some mere protoplasmic streets, and ending suddenly in waste, and pits, and rubbish heaps, and fields whence the magic had departed. I have spoken of systems of thoroughfare,, and I assure you that walking alone through these silent places I felt fantasy growing on me, and some glamour of the infinite.

(that's from the otherwise crap Novel of the Iron Maid.)

Sherlock Holmes specifically is often scooting off to Streatham and other south London purlieus, and he and Machen have a similar flavour to them, of crime and horror existing in and feeding upon the recently manufactured mundane.

Conan Doyle isn't a great writer, I don't think, but he did have that one rare feather of greatness - creating a character more famous than himself.

If you live in Thanet and fancy doing some creative knitting (Fizzles), Monday, 2 July 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago)

Amazing passage, will def have to check more Machen.

dow, Monday, 2 July 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago)

Wow yeah, I love suburbia and I love that description.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 July 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago)

oh and the last typewriter I bought new was an Olivetti manual. do they still do them?

I used to live near a typewriter shop on Green Lanes, which I kept meaning to go into but never did.

If you live in Thanet and fancy doing some creative knitting (Fizzles), Monday, 2 July 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago)

oh and the last typewriter I bought new was an Olivetti manual. do they still do them?

No.

If you live in Thanet and fancy doing some creative knitting (Fizzles), Monday, 2 July 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago)

Just finished the "Book of Ephraim" section of The Changing Light at Sandover. So many beautiful parts in this. Read very slowly so I'm sure I missed stuff, but highly enjoyable. Thanks "Great American Poems" thread!

Moreno, Monday, 2 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago)

Is The Changing Light... a book-length narrative, like Vikram Seth's The Golden Gate, maybe?

dow, Monday, 2 July 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago)

Not sure honestly. I know each section was written and published separately but I can't say how connected they are.

Moreno, Monday, 2 July 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago)

Recentlyish:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/P/0224090844.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Lovely and slightly heartbreaking graphic novel

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/P/186207318X.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Hungarian-Italian novel about 20th-Century Hungary and espionage, told via the main character's troublesome teeth--rather cool

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/P/B007MQZ9J2.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Early Vonnegut novella, very enjoyable, but with a too-pat 1940s magazine-fiction conclusion

Plus I found a 2nd-hand copy of Connell's 'Mr Bridge', which was as brilliant as 'Mrs Bridge', and I loved both of them.

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago)

Just finished the "Book of Ephraim" section of The Changing Light at Sandover. So many beautiful parts in this. Read very slowly so I'm sure I missed stuff, but highly enjoyable. Thanks "Great American Poems" thread!

so happy you loved it -- discovering Merrill was one of those eye-opening moments in my lit life.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago)

Sandover runs aground, perhaps fatally three quarters of the way through "Mirabell"

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago)

we have always lived in the castle. and a book of ghost stories set on a train, for children , which i bought with the intention of giving it to my nephew, who is obsessed with trains. and then the conclusion is boy who is the focal character wakes up and finds himself in the middle of a train wreck and everyone else has been dead the whole time and now i think maybe not.

thomp, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago)

Many xps, found a great Machen passage recently which really chimed with my current philosophical materialist doubts:

I began to dread, vainly proposing to myself the iterated dogmas of science that all life is material, and that in the system of things there is no undiscovered land, even beyond the remotest stars, where the supernatural can find a footing. Yet there struck in on this the thought that matter is as really awful and unknown as spirit, that science itself but dallies on the threshold, scarcely gaining more than a glimpse of the wonders of the inner place.

Now on The House of Mirth. Just past the half way point and Miss Bart is fast losing my sympathies.

ledge, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago)

watch her gain them after a bit.

I'm rereading The Custom of the Country, which has too many exclamations from Undine's POV for my taste.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago)

fizzles i feel like whenever i've been to see a thing at the british library it's suffered from the problems you describe. at least the ones expressed by (David Lodge's Nice Work in a glass box, with a catalogue entry by it, really?) ... 'Disraeli wrote a book about social divisions, called Sybil, here is an edition of Sybil

sometimes they decorate the room very nicely, though. at the science fiction one they built an android for you to talk to, and had a tripod (wellesian, not johnchristopherian) looming over you on the way in -

thomp, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago)

Par Lindqvist: The DWARF -- who knew such a vicious, misanthropic book could be so fun!

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago)

just started cesar aira - 'how i became a nun'

radical ferry (donna rouge), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 07:10 (twelve years ago)

I've been reading Piers Plowman for the past few nights, in prose I am sad to say, because I can't bring myself to wrestle with the middle english right now. Langland's variant seems thornier than Chaucer's to me.

It seems to be a very mixed bag in terms of the religious allegory, but it gets in a few nice digs at authority on the satirical side of things.

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago)

Miss Bart did indeed regain my sympathies. It's tough going though, in the middle, where none of her misfortunes are of her own making and yet she is somehow complicit in all of them. The worst you can say of her is she clings too long to her ambition, to her attachment to the monstrous set long after it's spat her out. But that's basically saying she should have given up her dreams, which is hardly the most positive of advice.

ledge, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago)

that's basically saying she should have given up her dreams

dreams that are untethered from reality cannot end well.

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago)

all Wharton's novels and stories are ghost stories.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago)

is she haunting society or is it haunting her?

dreams that are untethered from reality cannot end well.

her dreams are achievable, albeit with the sacrifice of her integrity. that's the awful dilemma of the book, and why her descent seems both avoidable and inevitable at every turn.

ledge, Thursday, 5 July 2012 08:07 (twelve years ago)

will somebody point me towards the "Great American Poems" thread? i am interested in reading it, and cannot find it using the search.

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Friday, 6 July 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago)

I finished "Atonement". The twist ending, an Amisian jolt of po-mo sadism, was more unexpected after the dutiful period-historical realism of the preceding action. It whet my appetite for war literature, so now I'm reading "All Quiet on the Western Front" which somehow I'd managed to not read until now. So far it's easily exceeding my expectations - surprisingly "contemporary" in feel.

o. nate, Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago)

Read Pat Barker's Great War trilogy! Wilfred Owen, poison gas, psychoanalysis, and graphic pederasty!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:58 (twelve years ago)

Hmm- I'd never heard of it before but it looks interesting.

o. nate, Saturday, 7 July 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago)

table:
Which huge american poem should I read?

woof, Saturday, 7 July 2012 12:29 (twelve years ago)

siri hustvedt's the summer without men, did i mention this already

thomp, Saturday, 7 July 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago)

Got a Kindle for my birthday. Reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire on it. Kindle suits Gibbon, he seems to like it. Note formatting is a bit dire tho (downloaded from Gutenberg).

Also In the Hand of Dante by Nick Tosches. It started out excellently. There's three main narrators: a gangster called Louis, Dante, and Nick Tosches (I know, I know, it's fine, seriously), and it's Louis who starts with a long repetitive misanthropic invective as he walks through the streets of New York. If I'd posted a few chapters earlier, I would have been a lot more tolerant towards Tosches' desire to show-off and his showmanship generally, even tho sometimes it doesn't hit the mark. However, I've just got through a loooonng chapter of Dante talking to a mystical which is basically second-rate cabbalah and very fifth rate hokey aesthetics and as a consequence I'm not feeling too well disposed towards the book right now. There were signs a bit earlier when he (as himself) went on a massive and often amusing rant against publishing. All this reminds me in a way of Bruce Montgomery/Edmund Crispin, whose detective novels often seem like vehicles for his ultracynicism towards English stereotypes.

Its a book obsessed with love and death however, and that gives it a fair heft despite the showmanship and gaudy self indulgence (which elements make it v enjoyable to read most of the time). I dread to think what his book on Homer is like.

I got very very angry with Capitol for structural reasons, so its last chapters are waiting to be read when I'm in the correct mood of grim belligerence.

Oh, and picked up Eros and Magic in the Renaissance by Ioan Couliano. He's on the side of the magicians, which makes it my kind of book. Dipped into it before, but will finish this time. On suggested cures for extreme melancholic love, obsessed with an ideal unattainable woman:

Only "if there is no direct remedy," the doctor Bernard de Gordon, professor and practitioner, advises that there be recourse to the talents of an old and horrible shrew, to stage a dramatic scene. Under he clothes the old woman should wear a rag soaked in menstrual blood. In full view of thte patient she should first utter the worst invectives regarding the woman he loves and, if that proves useless, she should remove the rag from her bosom, wave it under the nose of the unhappy man, and shout in his fae: "Your friend, she is like this, she is like this!" suggesting that she is only - as the Malleus maleficarum is to say - "a bane of nature."

Exhausted, the doctor draws his conclusion: "If, after all that, he does not change his mind, then he is not a man but the devil incarnate."

If you live in Thanet and fancy doing some creative knitting (Fizzles), Sunday, 8 July 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago)

Took a break from feeling gross while reading Malaparte's Kaputt, and read David Benioff's City of Thieves, which turns Kaputt's horrors into a rollicking buddy comedy/thriller. It's very entertaining, but it was a little off-putting to have details lifted directly from a book that from most accounts is at least in part also fiction.

hose on my dick cuz i look like kiedis (JoeStork), Monday, 9 July 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago)

I put Piers Plowman aside about halfway through. I knew it was a dalliance when I picked it up.

Next, I gave Pound for Pound by F.X. Toole a tryout, but it did not seem to me to be anything special. A jacket blurb invoked Hemingway, but the writing seemed to me more bald than lean and spare, and the characters suffered from a surplus of trivial activity and a lack of depth.

Last night I switched over to Dawn Powell's The Locusts Have No King. This is much meatier fare than Toole and Powell has a complete mastery over her material in a way that reminded me of Muriel Spark, although her handling of it is much less austere and her feeling for her characters is warmer, more intimate and more forgiving.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago)

I'm really liking This Real Night, by Rebecca West, a sequel to The Fountain Overflows. Mrs. Aubrey is a gorgeous character - a natural aesthete without guile or affectation.

jim, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago)

Oh, that's a lovely book.

uncondensed milky way (remy bean), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago)

Powell is so marvelous. I spent most of 2005 reading her stuff. Try A Time To Be Born next.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago)

Jan Morris: Conundrum -- her memoir of changing sex (first published in 1974) -- only a little way in, but really good so far

an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago)

I read Michael Lewis' Liar's Poker. It was marvellous, but other than knowing that Lewis really knows how to spin a yarn I'm not entirely sure why. It's partly an autobiography of his couple of years with a Wall St firm, part backstory of the guys at said firm, and part explanation of how the mortgage bond market exploded in the 80s. I'm mostly interested in these things anyway, but Lewis really makes you live it.

What's really fascinating is that even though it's undoubtedly been simplified, what's clear is that these highly-educated guys were being pumped out as little more than ultraconfident salesmen. I'd always assumed there was so much more to it than that. I'd love to have had a crack at it, actually, but no way on earth would I have had the personality to last even a week in the job.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago)

Attempting to tackle Gaddis' JR for the second time. The premise seems like something I'd really enjoy, but it's tough so far working through his style. The book is in my laptop bag now and frankly intimidates me a little, like a giant hill I want to climb on my bike.

Spectrum, Saturday, 14 July 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago)

Raymond Durgnat - W.R - The Mysteries of the Organism. The movie itself (playing at the BFI in a one-off screening) is multi-layered to say the least, and requires a lot of time to be spent on reading and thinking about various aspects; a lot of time needed to contextualise Yugoslavia's place in cold war politics that feed into this.

The writing has a lot of work to do to be able to communicate those activities and processes and RD is more than up to the job, easily one of my favourities from the series, then again its one of the few films that probably warrants a BFI book. I suspect there are too many of them, although I've not read anywhere near like enough so there is a frustration there too.

Some poetry by Donne, re-read Barnes' Nightwood -- went on a date with someone that was a bit like this novel come to life, in a way.

Gave Cordwainer Smith's stories a once over -- the themes through the stories add up to something but there was not a single one that really stood out for me. Find short stories hard these days. Or so I thought, but now I'm getting through some of Ballard's for the first time and totally loving them: The Subliminal Man is amazing.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 July 2012 10:22 (twelve years ago)

After spending the last cpl of months ploughing through a series of massive and popular fantasy novels and finally getting to the end last night, this morning i turned to the book at the top of the swaying unread stack - Up Above the World by Paul Bowles - as an antidote to dragons and olives. So far, it is really hitting the spot - full of that sense of hostile mystery that Bowles does so well.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 08:21 (twelve years ago)

fillum stuff for my disseration:

"Alan Clarke: The Television Series" - Dave Rolinson
"How to Read a Film" - James Monaco

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 12:14 (twelve years ago)

started K.W. Jeter's The Glass Hammer a couple nights ago; haven't got too far into it yet, but it's p fascinating so far

the Notorious B1G1--from now thru Saturday at KOHL's! (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago)

Interesting that the James Monaco still gets studied. It's been around a long time - I think my copy is more than 30 years old. Presumably it's been updated but still.......

I've started reading the Patrick Melrose novels by Edward St Aubyn. I read Mother's Milk a few years back and thought it was good but not great. After reading the first in the sequence I now suspect it's beneficial to read these in order. I'd caution that these books are very dark, even misanthropic portraits of damaged people. But fantastically well written and compelling.

frankiemachine, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago)

Im reading the 2009 edition, lots of stuff about cyberspace/multimedia/virtual reality in the closing chapters.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago)

I finished The Locusts Have No King and would recommend it. The satire is very controlled and seldom goes ott. The whole book is filled with deftly flawed, but utterly believable characters, whose actions emerge from a wide variety of self-defeating urges.

Aimless, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago)

read A Time to Be Born, Aim. This woman is a god.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago)

there was a 2009 ed. of Glass Hammer? I'm reading an old used copy I picked up in Ann Arbor

that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago)

(not that surprising considering I have the 2009 edition of Morlock Night, I suppose)

that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago)

I finished "All Quiet on the Western Front". I thought it was pretty great (I guess that's not an unconventional opinion). It struck me as being very modern, from the earthy gallows humor to the brutally honest realism about the grim and relentless slaughter of the war, to the existential refusal of the soldiers to succumb to the absurdity and meaningless of their situation. Some beautiful poetic passages too, even though the translation seemed at times a bit dated.

o. nate, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago)

gilbert sorrentino - imaginative qualities of actual things

clouds, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago)

I finished Alan Furst's Mission To Paris this morning. Excellent as always. There's less and less to distinguish his books, the more I read; I think I've said before, but they're getting like one long encyclopaedic novel in twelve volumes. I wonder how they'd read intercut, like Godfather II?

That said, there was one gaping hole that irked me in this volume, where the hero is in a tight spot and has to reach out for help, but goes to the Americans instead of a local guy who's helped him out of an even tighter spot less than half-a-dozen pages before. It eventually ties up the plot nicely, as it turned out, but screeching at a book for passing over an obvious motivation is generally something best avoided, I feel.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 July 2012 09:04 (twelve years ago)

In keeping with the war theme but from a slightly different angle: now reading Walt Whitman's Specimen Days.

o. nate, Friday, 20 July 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago)

Jean Stafford's The Mountain Lion is so good.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago)

Edith Wharton's short stories not on a par with her novels imo. Judging from Men and Ghosts anyway.

ledge, Friday, 20 July 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago)

hmmm....disagree, at least not when you've got "The Other Two," "Roman Fever," "omengranate Seed," "Autre Temps," "The Dilettante," and about seven or eight others. I'll say this: the flaws (didacticism, dull metaphors) plague her novels too.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago)

I haven't read "The Eyes" in years but that one struck me as her best ghost story.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago)

I fell into reading Melville's "The Confidence Man", I like it but it's also good for putting me to sleep at night.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago)

Xp Well I'm just judging from one collection but they were all wrapped so neatly, ending an an obvious "aha! You see?" moment, and I saw, I just didn't care. These were not great life lessons. Felt the same about The Eyes pretty much tbh. Afterward otoh didn't try and teach me anything but it had a great slow-burn chilling (er... slow chilling?) denouement.

ledge, Friday, 20 July 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago)

wrapped up so neatly, I mean.

ledge, Friday, 20 July 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago)

I see that the northern days have actually been receding and the southern days advancing for almost a month now. Time for a new WAYR thread?

Aimless, Friday, 20 July 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago)

picked up 'great expectations' last night on a whim and wound up staying up an hour later than i intended to. weird that no one ever mentions how funny it is -- it's almost like reading roald dahl or something.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 July 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago)

What larks!

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Saturday, 21 July 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago)

Afterward otoh didn't try and teach me anything but it had a great slow-burn chilling (er... slow chilling?) denouement.

I don't look for lessons in stories so I guess there's a conflict.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 July 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago)

Was Wharton's career concurrent with O. Henry's?

that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 21 July 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago)

(Thinking 'yes' but can't remember with any kind of accuracy)

that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 21 July 2012 04:57 (twelve years ago)

Dickens - Night Walks. Brill descriptions of old London, and my first by him (usually allergic to canonical English writers).

Philip Dick - The Penultimate Truth.

Thomas M. Disch - The Genocides. This was often great, more into descriptions of crops taking over and speculations as to whether this was a work of god rather than the inter-community fannydangle, that meant I was slipping in and out of it more than I should have been. More into how clearly out of their depth human being are when confronting catastophre.

Wonderful how anybody didn't make it.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 July 2012 08:40 (twelve years ago)

I've read The Penultimate Truth which was one of my favorites of the PKD novels that I've read

that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 21 July 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago)

crops taking over and speculations as to whether this was a work of god rather than the inter-community fannydangle
crops get inspired by humans taking liberties? Like the pedo-priest alibi?? Or what??

dow, Saturday, 21 July 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago)

The Penultimate Truth works the alternative WWII history angle so much better than Man in the High Castle.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 July 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago)

Don't get someone not liking Wharton's short stories. They're great!

See the opening lines to "The Day of the Funeral":
“His wife had said: ‘If you don’t give her up I’ll throw myself from the roof.’ He had not given her up, and his wife had thrown herself from the roof.”

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 23 July 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago)

I wrote a story a few years ago using that approach

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago)

OK, reading vol 1 of Etienne Leroux's 'To a Dubious Salvation' trilogy. This is some mad shit. South African novel from 1962--a guy goes to a big farm in western South Africa to meet his future wife, one of a vast clan of Jewish utopian/sci-fi-style farmers/winemakers; is never certain which of the many young women at the house is actually his bride-to-be, keeps getting trapped in weird philosophical conversation with future in-laws who ignore what he actually says and argue fiercely with the view they've attributed to him.

Apparently later volumes add Hercules analogues and murder mystery plots to the mix.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago)

I have no idea if it's actually GOOD but it's certainly keeping my interest.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago)

Reading chunks of Calasso's The Ruin Of Kasch - Calasso turns from his typical amazingly written oblique aphorisms into the world's most brilliant crank for a most of the midsection. It's awesome.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago)

Daniel Okrent's Last Call -- a fab read

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago)

As recommended by somebody on ILX, I'm reading Charles Portis's Dog of the South. Hilarious, quotable.

baking (soda), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago)

"Dog of the South" is fantastic!
― dylan (dylan), Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:20 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Charles Portis's 'The Dog of the South' is definitively kick-ass.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:45 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is there anywhere on ILE where JtN explains why 'The Dog of the South' is kickass? I'd be really interested in reading that.
― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:11 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Better to sell your Yellow Dog and read Dog of the South by Charles Portis.
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:57 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

baking (soda), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago)

Actually, I'm starting to think that Glass Hammer has more in common with Penultimate Truth than Man in the High Castle does.

seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago)

Attempting to tackle Gaddis' JR for the second time. The premise seems like something I'd really enjoy, but it's tough so far working through his style. The book is in my laptop bag now and frankly intimidates me a little, like a giant hill I want to climb on my bike.

― Spectrum, Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:05 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This book has a reputation for being difficult and inaccessible, but it's actually neither of those things. It's definitely unconventional, but Gaddis gets away with it because he is very, very good at dialogue; you'll pretty much always know who is talking because he captures the nuances of speech so well. If you read it without the preconception that you are about to read a difficult book, you shouldn't have any problems with it.

It is the funniest book I've ever read and there are so many great characters...I just wish everyone would read it and not be so afraid!

cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago)

Feel like there are a lot of common uses of 'difficult' with regard to books that JR satisfies. Love it tho.

woof, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago)

But that is good advice, go at a cracking pace and it really comes together, notemaking, pensucking approaches cripple it.

woof, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago)

anyone read Kundera's Ignorance?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago)

Feel like there are a lot of common uses of 'difficult' with regard to books that JR satisfies.

But I think what makes the book work so well is that he is working in a style that is superficially difficult but succeeding in making it extremely readable and comprehensible (which, imo, makes it not difficult).

But if this is about semantics, then yeah, you win. ;)

cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago)

I've read Ignorance and I remember it as being good, though maybe a bit short of Identity and Immortality (I read a ton of his in a burst, years ago). But I can't remember any details, and a quick google isn't triggering anything at all.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago)

xp

agree with that to an extent, but then even after you're over the style bump & got the rhythm + sound of the book, it's still got a lot of stuff going on that counts as 'difficult' - important actions flicker by in the background iirc, srious thoughts about capitalism art and entropy etc etc, v allusive. I mean I think it's a fucking delight, a pleasure to read and an all-time great novel, maybe 'difficult' is just in a messy place as a critical word at the moment - could function as 'interesting, serious, fair demands on the reader' but mostly implies 'not fun' (or features in a hardman cult of 'difficulty').

woof, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago)

thanks, Ismael

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago)

A spree of one-nighters by Wodehouse, Arthur Conan Doyle, Chesterton, Elmore Leonard and Richard Stark. PGW's Doctor Sally is a gem... how to win love by memorizing the kinds of milk bacteria.

jim, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago)

John Ronson The Psychopath Test
Don't think I've ever read a book by him before, though I used to read his column regularly about 10 years ago in whichever of the Guardian Weekend or Observer it was.
Very interesting. Some really odd stuff so far like the rooms full of psychopaths on lsd curing each other & the guy who got into Broadmoor as a scam to avoid a gbh charge but can't get back out.
Now just got onto the chapter on meeting Robert Hare who I met myself in 2006 thanks to a progressive college Psychsoc getting him in for a talk at my old college.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago)

Sea And Sardinia - my first Lawrence. It's weird - if I read in big chunks, I find it listless, overcaffeinated. Skipping around and reading bite-sized bits and pieces though, it's brilliant.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago)

otm. I bought it Twilight in Italy a few weeks ago and was struck dumb by a couple of chapters, notably the one called "The Spinner and the Monks."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago)

It's tremendously easy to just hop around as well, seeing as how its narrative is bound less by consequence than by circumstance ("...and then this happened and this happened and this happened") and every passage is practically self-contained.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago)

I've had Sea and Sardinia for about a month now, and that's actually how I've been approaching it, too; it's sitting on the end table, and I pick it up every once in a while and flip to a random page, and it's been great that way.

I tried reading The Rainbow recently but couldn't make it through. Earlier this year I read Sons and Lovers and thought it was great, though, so I dunno...Lawrence overload? His shorter works that I've read (especially The Fox) were very good, too.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago)

The Rainbow and WIL were essential to my development but I'm not sure I have the courage to reread them...

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago)

I keep telling myself I'll go back and finish it, but I have such a ridiculous backlog of unread books here that it's starting to look unlikely...

cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago)

Thornton Wilder, The Bridge of San Luis Rey. I see now why it's so highly regarded. The last page is a knockout.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 26 July 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago)

just finished Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy by John Le Carre and Time of The Hero by Mario Vargas Llosa. found both slightly confusing at first and then got way into intercutting structure and intricate plot/characters. esp Llosa, have two more lined up to read by him: The Green House and Conversations in the Cathedral. Le Carre I find vv inconsistent, his prose can be wooden but TTSS brings the intrigue/paranoia of spying.

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 26 July 2012 10:42 (twelve years ago)

Shah Of Shahs by Ryszard Kapuscinski - suspect this may be the start of a Kapuscinski Kick. Kapuscinski Kick is also a good name for a band.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 26 July 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago)

With Le Carre, I really like the ones that hit that perfect "Office Politics (but where people die if you make the wrong decision)" vibe

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 July 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago)

Is The Russia House a good one? I have it sitting here.

jim, Friday, 27 July 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago)

I just polished off a couple of short novels:

The Ballad fo Peckham Rye, Muriel Spark and The Guide, R.K. Narayan. Very different, of course, but equally brilliant in their embrace of a specific place, time and culture.

Aimless, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago)

I finished Michael Lewis' Home Game, which is sundry mostly comic reflections on the early days of fatherhood. It's as slight as a collection of Slate columns, which I think it might literally be, but good fun and I'm glad I read it. Basically he writes so well that he could make html code entertaining.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 July 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago)

xpost The Russia House was the first LeCarre I read and it was enjoyable. Other than that I've only read the Smiley trilogy so I don't really know where it ranks overall, but it was a pretty good read.

cwkiii, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago)

Old Mortality by Sir Walter Scott. This is fun!

woof, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago)

DFW's - The Pale King. A rather bumpy start, but really enjoying it now.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago)

Alfred Bester - The Stars My Destination.
Ursula LeGuin - The Left hand of Darkness.

Now reading some Harlan Ellison short stories - although from the intro there is a piece of film crit so looking forward to seeing how that works out. Sounds like my favourite genre already.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago)

The mini-series of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is out now on DVD--the intricacy just calmly, gradually merges and gathers momentum in the patient four-eyed gaze of pale Smiley, AKA Alec Guinness. Gary Oldham is prob good too, but can't imagine a single movie providing the same experience. Having to wait for each episode helped, of course, long before DVDs.

dow, Saturday, 28 July 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago)

Back to reading Fug You by Ed Sanders after completing both Prague Cemetery by Umberto Eco which I wasn't very satisfied with after having enjoyed pretty much everything else I read by him. & The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson which was pretty enjoyable and has me wanting to read more by him as well as the 2 books he mentions by Robert Hare.

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 July 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago)

Reading Rome 1960, by David Maraniss. Rich clarity of backstories, and still early on, but already well into the valor and many hazards, incl media,emerging evidence of trainers administering drugs,commercial exploitation of athletes, recruiting athletes to get other athletes to defect, Cold War and older considerations of gender, race--some theatre of the absurd ricocheting through it all, not overemphasized. Grand, acerbic and droll.

dow, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago)

Also sweet but non-cloying consideration of individuals--incl Avery Brundage, who had no prob w '36 Olympics and is life-long paleo-concervative, but now gets branded Communist for wanting a certain island to enter as Taiwan or Formosa, no longer as China. ha

dow, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago)

sweetly ironic, in this case

dow, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago)

just began 'in the watches of the night' by peter baldwin, which examines how nocturnal life in the city began to change with the advent of streetlights and what not, whereas previously cities were basically pitch black at night and life was quite different.

in the queue is 'traveler of the century' by andres neuman.

omar little, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago)

That's a funny idea, it's kind of obvious but I've never thought about it. There was that other study recently too, about how people used to all wake up in the middle of the night and go out for a bit.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 July 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago)

That sounds cool. I've often wondered whether electric and gas lighting have contributed significantly to, e.g., literacy rates, or science and the arts. Imagine how hard it must have been to do intellectual tasks after dark just by candle or torchlight.

jim, Saturday, 28 July 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago)

thought i just posted this, but it seems to have gone awol:

Roman historian Ammianus wrote how in late antiquity in Rome the streets at night were so well lit that it was as easy to distinguish people as if it were day.

Fizzles, Saturday, 28 July 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago)

the book begins with an interesting novelistic approach, imagining a night on the dark, dark town by a revolutionary war-era sailor.

omar little, Saturday, 28 July 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago)

Imagine how hard it must have been to do intellectual tasks after dark just by candle or torchlight.

questions of cost too - candles a nasty expense for a poor scholar.

woof, Saturday, 28 July 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago)

i'm about halfway through chris kraus' i love dick and it's kind of appalling.

j., Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago)

I leave tomorrow for 15 days of camping and hiking. I am bringing with me many books, some of them mere featherweights and a few awesome ones. I'll report here when I return.

Aimless, Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago)

just began 'in the watches of the night' by peter baldwin, which examines how nocturnal life in the city began to change with the advent of streetlights and what not, whereas previously cities were basically pitch black at night and life was quite different.

in the queue is 'traveler of the century' by andres neuman.

― omar little, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a funny idea, it's kind of obvious but I've never thought about it. There was that other study recently too, about how people used to all wake up in the middle of the night and go out for a bit.

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 July 2012 20:02 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what was that called, like three times i have told people about it and they haven't believed me and since i can't name it they think i'm making it up

thomp, Sunday, 29 July 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago)

i don't know of the study you are referring to, but i did a quick bit of googling and found this book:

At Day's Close: Night In Times Past

sounds fascinating!

omar little, Sunday, 29 July 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago)

there was also this BBC piece:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783

omar little, Sunday, 29 July 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago)

that book indeed has an account of that phenomenon in it. i've read some of it, it was pretty interesting.

j., Sunday, 29 July 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago)

finished midnight's children -- started off really enjoying it, but overall i feel like it was missing something for me.

reading alice munro's runaway. it is completely fantastic. i'm just going to intersperse alice munro stories between all my other books until i finish everything she's written.

also making my way through the earthsea novels...

rayuela, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago)

Sebald's The Rings of Saturn - I loved it. It seemed to have the scope and sublimity of tragedy, but without anything like a tragic plot. I love the narrator's Borgesian scholarly fussiness.

jim, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago)

I'm almost finished 'The Voyage Out', Woolf's first novel. It's not got the brilliance of her other things but I've mostly enjoyed it anyway.

franny glass, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago)

reading 'hiding man' the bio of don barthleme - have barely read his stuff beyond a story or 2 but i did something similar a few yrs back w/ richard yates, reading his bio cold & then his work & it went ok so we'll see..

also started 'the thousand autumns of jacob de zoet'

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago)

i'm just going to intersperse alice munro stories between all my other books until i finish everything she's written.

^^ ppl who've figured out how to live

just sayin, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago)

seconded

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago)

i got Selected Stories recently so that sounds like a plan

Number None, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago)

Candace Savage: Crows -- nifty little book about corvid intelligence; I wish I had some crows or ravens as pets

Paula Fox: The Widow's Children -- amazingly good, but incredibly oppressive, spending such concentrated moment-by-moment time in the presence of such an awful person (Laura, the central character of the book)

Nabokov: The Tragedy of Mr Morn -- newly into English, sort of long-lost play, only just started

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago)

Finished The Voyage Out. Interesting ending that redeemed some of the flatness of the early bits.

I just started Moby Dick. Awesome. I started it once about 10 years ago and got about 4 chapters in before getting bored and quitting. That seems so weird now - I am hooked already after 1 chapter.

franny glass, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago)

it's wonderful in a mental sort of 19th-C encyclopedia sort of way. i only read it last year for the first time and loved it. Lots of unintended homoerotic laughs, too.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago)

Moby Dick is great in practically every way. I like how the distance of time and enshrinement as maybe the classic book in most every canon in no way reduces just how damn weird the thing can be.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago)

I only read Moby Dick two months ago and was amazed by what an easy read it was.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago)

I finished Michael Lewis' Home Game, which is sundry mostly comic reflections on the early days of fatherhood. It's as slight as a collection of Slate columns, which I think it might literally be, but good fun and I'm glad I read it. Basically he writes so well that he could make html code entertaining.

Agree this was pretty slight, though usually at least mildly amusing.

o. nate, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago)

have the following books out from lib:

eileen myles - school of fish
adrienne rich - your native land, your life
susan howe - pierce-arrow
ludvik vaculik - the guinea pigs
laurie weeks - zipper mouth

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago)

John William's Stoner is so quiet and astonishing that I've had to put the book down every ten minutes and recover.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago)

Stoner is great but the sections with his wife are over sentimental and annoying

nostormo, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago)

I've had to put the book down every ten minutes and recover.
This happens to me all the time! Some things I can only tolerate in the smallest of portions. They have to digest before I can stomach more.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 3 August 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago)

I am a lurker but I do read books btw.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 3 August 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago)

John William's Stoner is so quiet and astonishing that I've had to put the book down every ten minutes and recover.

i did this with runaway. i had to stop in the middle of one of the stories and just put it down and recover, before i could continue with it. and i felt destroyed by each of the stories as they ended, and couldn't just jump to the next story. i think this is one of my favorite of munro's books thus far. "runaway" and "trespasses" were not that compelling for me, but every single other story was just completely fabulous, brilliant.

rayuela, Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago)

My summer of SF goes on:

Thomas M. Disch - Camp Concentration. In diary form but this is happily broken down for stretches of dialogue. But it serves the purpose - You never know quite what's going on outside of the camp, what is really what, and whether the whole thing is a fake anyway (at one point certain lines are crossed out). An experiment in engineered intelligence gone wrong, a juxtaposition with WWII, the works of Aquinas and the occult. A keeper.

Frank Herbert - The Eyes of Heisenberg. I've never read Dune (and could never stay with the film - must've been 12 or 22 when I saw it) but this is awesome and might make for a cracking film. This time its engineering immortality through genetics - loved the cobbled descriptions of the experiments - not sure though how Heinsenberg's theories are operating here though. And the ending is open-ended for a sequel.

Robert Silverberg - Hawksbill Station. Very 1984 (well its set in it), political prisoners sent back in time - politics are basically cold war and no twist, little play with that, unfortunately.

Philip Jose Farmer - Strange Relations. Seriously struggling with this but amazing from what I'm picking up. Would have turned my head upside down if i read this at 15. Need to re-read this back to back w/Schnitzler's Mother and Son.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 August 2012 09:42 (twelve years ago)

Stoner is great but the sections with his wife are over sentimental and annoying

Not the early scenes, esp the one in which she realizes she must have sex with him

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 11:38 (twelve years ago)

Intriguing xpost description of Sebald's The Rings of Saturn. I'm nearing the home stretch of Rome 1960. Americentric, but as prev mentioned it's sympathetic to most athletes, shrewdly appraising officials and overall Olympics organization/process, incl propaganda. plus some CIA spooks here and there. Other countries' athletes, teams and individuals, at least provide very strong supporting cast, and sometimes leave Americanskis in the dust (not very often, in this account anyway). Coaches and correspondents (plus media back home) also spark: Red Smith A.J. Liebling, with several other on-the-scene voices new to me.

dow, Saturday, 4 August 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago)

She’d thought it was touch. Mouths, tongues, skin, bodies, banging bone on bone. Inflammation. Passion. But that wasn’t what had been meant for them at all. That was child’s play, compared to how she knew him, how far she’d seen into him, now.

What she had seen was final. As if she was at the edge of a flat dark body of water that stretched on and on. Cold, level water. Looking out at such dark, cold, level water, and knowing it was all there was.

from the story "passion" in runaway. this story just killed me. i went back through it today to take down the quotes i had flagged and i was caught up in it all over again.

rayuela, Monday, 6 August 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago)

this afternoon I reread "Trespasses" from the same collection, rayuela. Each time she enters a story sideways (it takes a few minutes to find my bearings) she kills me.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago)

Finally finished Rome 1960. Great description of the closing marathon in the deep dark, on the Appian Way. Great ending or collection of endings, incl rolling fwd to see how various issues and trends (oh yeah, and lives) developed a bit more in the past 52 years. Yall see this? Reminds me to check out The Making of Americans, having enjoyed Three Lives, Tender Buttons, and several other collections. Also need to dig up my McElroy books: http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/book-news/tip-sheet/article/53409-the-top-10-most-difficult-books.html

dow, Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago)

Dublinesque - Mattas-Villa: why is this repetitive, almost pseudo intellectual novel got good reviews?

nostormo, Friday, 10 August 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago)

Dublinesque - Mattas-Villa: why is this repetitive, almost pseudo intellectual novel got good reviews?

nostormo, Friday, 10 August 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago)

Dublinesque - Mattas-Villa: why is this repetitive, almost pseudo intellectual novel got good reviews?

nostormo, Friday, 10 August 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago)

Olaf Stapleton - Sirius. Best shaggy dog story ever.
Frank Herbert - The Green Brain
Delany - The Einstein Intersection. So much flies by me, the bits of fantasy cross-mised with a 'postmodernism(s)'. The range of quotes that kick each of the chapters.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 August 2012 09:39 (twelve years ago)

THEM by Jon Ronson
the book about meetings with extremists, currently been reading about Ronson having started hanging with the David Icke posse. Think he's just been at the book signing where an anti-racist group have thrown a pie at Icke. There was an understanding that '12" lizard' translated as 'jew', which couldn't be tolerated. So creating work for bookshop staff who needed to clear pie off the children's section was an ideal answer.

also Philip Pullman's Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ where Christ seems to have been put in place of the tempting devil while the recently baptised Jesus spends 40 days in the wilderness. Thought Christ was the miracle performer, maybe he is. Well enjoyable read anyway

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 August 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago)

I finished "Specimen Days" (the Whitman one, not the one by Michael Cunningham). Feels pretty essential, if you're a Whitman fan. At first I was a bit skeptical of the second half, where he gives play-by-play descriptions of sitting under trees and watching birds and stuff, but it gets better.

o. nate, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago)

I read the good man jesus and the scoundrel christ last year -- when I got near the end, I found that someone had ripped 3 pages out of the library book. :(

rayuela, Monday, 13 August 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago)

Those three pages were the most blasphemous ones I should think.

I just returned from my annual two week jaunt in the mountains. While away I read several books (and also hiked 120 miles).

Gun With Occasional Music, J. Lethem was ok for a first novel, I guess. I did finish it, which says something in its favor. But honestly, the sci-fi dystopian elements seemed like little more than gimmicks and the underlying murder mystery reminded me of the line in Maltese Falcon about 'the cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter'. Probably my last attempt at Lethem.

Laxdaela Saga in the Penguin translation by Magnussen was excellent. I've now read... (stops to count on his fingers)... five Icelandic sagas and this one ties with Njal's Saga as the second best of the lot. The saga of Egil Skalla-Grimmson is still easily the top of the heap for me.

The End and The Expelled, two very brief novellas by Samuel Beckett. These were my first dabbles in Beckett and I was curious to see what I made of him. His strengthes were obvious: his sentences were very sharp, very clear and reminiscent of broken glass. He was not into realism, but had more affinity with allegory. Although I could see what he was up to and could admire the clean strokes with which he achieved his effects, I was not touched and was not moved. Reading the the Icelandic saga just beforehand made a very effective counterpoint to him.

Spook with some such subtitle as 'When Science Looks at the Afterlife', by Mary Somebody (also the author of Stiff, as the cover proclaims). This was pure meringue.

Also several short stories by Kipling, late career ones, starting around 1914. By then, anything he wanted to write, he could sell, so the quality was predictably uneven, with a couple of self-indulgences he should have kept in the drawer.

Finally, about half of Barbara Tuchman's The Proud Tower, which I've read before. The fact that I was re-reading it says enough about my opinion of it.

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago)

I'm glad you mentioned it, Aimless. How is Tuckman? I've wondered if her scholarship and points of view hold up.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago)

reading short story collection by kelly link, 'stranger things have happened.' i'm enjoying it more with each passing story. reminds me a lot of russell hoban's linger awhile, even though i don't really remember that book. just a feeling i have as i read.

rayuela, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago)

As someone who has no claim to scholarship of any sort, I cannot evaluate Tuchman's scholarship with any precision. I understand that she was conversant with large amounts of original source material for her books. She had a good eye for the telling detail and the striking quotation.

In regard to her points of view, I think she constructed them rather soundly and they have withstood the passage of time quite well. This isn't to say she is more right in her views than other historians, for there is no unit to measure this by.

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago)

Aimless, you might try Beckett's early novel Mercier et Camier, with influence of his taste in early film comedies, though it does get darker, duh. Start from his very first, even--blanking on the title--I liked it though!

dow, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago)

Just found out that peter Brown of Cream/Battered Ornaments/PIblokto! put out an autobio in 2010 cos I found it in my local remainder bookshop.
Just been reading about his childhood, looking forward to reading about the 60s/early 70s.

also found a copy of Zeitz's book on the Flapper which I've heard might be considered a bit racist, totally concentrating on white females but I thought it looked like an interesting read. Thunk I'd missed it after not grabbing a copy a couple of weeks back but saw one on a pile above the shelves today. So grabbed it.

Also got an abridged version of Ibn Battuta's Travels started again. Cos I finished the Jon Ronson Them I had as my jacket pocket book.

& I'm a few pages away from the end of Ed Sander's FUg You which has been great. Hadn't realised that his outfit from the cover of It Crawled Into My hand, Honest was the same one a youthful Ronald Reagan had worn in one of his better known films. All the outfits came from the film company's wardrobe.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago)

The Beckett novel I xpost blanked on is Murphy: first to be published, that is (1938),though as far as I know, the first to be finished was Dream of Fair to Middling Women, unpublished 'til the 90s, despite his becoming a culture star way before. Doesn't necessarily mean it was only fair to middling, he could be pretty hard on his early stuff.

dow, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago)

that aimless hasn't read beckett yet seems odd

thomp, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago)

In spite of all appearances to the contrary, any well-read Oxbridge grad of callow years could probably outgun me in a comparison of our respective life lists of 'greats'. There are huge piles of literature and hundreds of canonical authors I have not read, yet. The holes in my reading life gape so hugely that one could pilot battleships through them. Nay, flotillas of battleships. I'm more a book lover than a book worm.

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago)

i've tried beckett and....haven't succeeded. i feel like if i started smoking meth it would sll come together. gertrude stein as the same effect on me. maybe i'm just a big baby.

i'm finishing *travels with my aunt* by graham greene and it is a HOOT. a hoot i tell you.

then i'm gonna finish up pulphead by john jeremiah sullivan. which may have been a mistake to read. oof. makes me want to throw out my computer and my pen and pencil set and anything in the house that might be used as a writing implement. so depressing. not like i'm really in any competitions with any writers - i'm only an occasional writer of occasionals - but still he makes you go damn that's good stuff and i wish i had thought of it. he is an accomplished journalist and i'm not...that. i should look at it as inspiration to try harder. but i hate trying! plus, he's even younger than me. i'll bet he doesn't have kids. kids are the death of any writer. unless you can afford a nanny. or a wife who will give up her life for you. its the least my wife could do! she always wants to "do stuff" that "she would enjoy". a pox on this house!

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago)

Aimless, have you read Watt or "Dante and the Lobster"?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago)

there was a review in the sunday times of 'pulphead' a couple of weeks ago that really made me want to check it out

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago)

You can read the Christian rock piece that appears in the book here

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/200401/rock-music-jesus

Number None, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago)

Alfred, no.

Aimless, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago)

pulphead is kinda better than anything. american. non-fiction-wise. since forever.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago)

Just finished Kenneth Goldsmith's Uncreative Writing, which makes an argument that appropriation/reuse/reconfiguration of existing texts is underutilized in writing, especially in comparison to other artforms that have been using similar methods for decades (like duchamp's fountain or sampling in music). pretty good book, although tbh the whole thing could have been boiled down to a single 20 page essay and it probably would have been just as good.

just before that i read the obscure book For Whom the Bell Tolls. i guess it's not too cool to dig hemingway these days, but i do. still, it would be nice if robert jordan was..i don't know.. more flawed?

i'm about 100 pages into arsula k. le guin's The Dispossessed, which was recommended for me by a friend, but after searching for discussion on it on ilx i noticed it did really well in lamp's recent speculative fiction poll. after that i'll either dive into The Origins of Totalitarianism, become baffled by Either/Or, or retreat back to roth (the plot against america).

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago)

arsulaursula

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago)

IN A SUMMER SEASON by Elizabeth Taylor. My first by her, v. much enjoying, w/ lots of quietly desperate comedy. Some of the writing reminded me a little of hENRY James, so i was p pleased w/ myself when THE SPOILS OF POYNTON turns up as a minor plot point.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago)

E.T. rules!

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago)

i'm finishing *travels with my aunt* by graham greene and it is a HOOT. a hoot i tell you.

Seconded; that book is so much fun! I don't think I could ever pick a favorite Greene novel but that one's probably in the top tier.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago)

yeah, seems like you can't go wrong with Greene, although I haven't read 'em all. Re Le Guin, The Left Hand of Darkness is also worth checking. About half-way through 2626. Often effective, the way Bolano escorts, marches rolls us through the enforced pacing x poignant moments, often deep, distanced and compelling, but the overall presentation of characters in society, the more "realistic" parts, at such length, are not so compelling--of course it's about the flattening extensions of time and perception and how (do) these relate to tiny revelatory convergences, I know that's the point, but also notice a mention of "dreams are semblances and also treading water." I *think* that's what the character Barry says, pertains anyway. Also anyway, I'll go with the flow and tread.

dow, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago)

Elizabeth Taylor is great. I recently got her Complete Short Stories, which had some 16 stories that weren't in any of the various other short story volumes by her I had, so that was most excellent.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago)

I've started reading "Try" by Dennis Cooper. Its powerful but very disturbing.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago)

yeah, seems like you can't go wrong with Greene, although I haven't read 'em all.

imo It's a Battlefield, Doctor Fischer of Geneva, and The Captain and the Enemy are about as close to dud as he gets, but just save those for last; all of his stuff is at least worth reading.

cwkiii, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago)

finished kelly link, on to the 2nd book in the earthsea series

rayuela, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago)

reading robert jay lifton 'destroying the world to save it' abt aum shinrikyo - it's a little dry tbh, but interesting

abandoning '..jacob de zoet' - i acknowledge it's p good, just too esoteric or too historical fiction-feel for my personal tastes

think im gonna start the keith richards bio & jennifer egan 'look at me'

johnny crunch, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago)

"Elizabeth Taylor is great. I recently got her Complete Short Stories"

i doubt this will come out in the states? but maybe i can find a sympathetic book store. i don't like buying things online, but maybe i will make an exception...

scott seward, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago)

retreat back to roth (the plot against america).

one of my favs fwiw, like i think of him as a comfort blanket too but this one's so good & is really interesting contextually & stylistically & stuff

very sexual album (schlump), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago)

Joanna Russ - Exra(Ordinary) People. Gave up then came back to 'finish'. I like the idea of her, hard to find a voice that I can listen to.

Philip Jose Farmer - The Gate of Time. Liked this but I want him to write about sex with aliens than fake WWII stuff. This one featured an SF fan for a hero so there was some hilarity.

Kurt Vonnegut - God Bless You, Mr.Rosewater.

Frank Herbert - The Heaven Makers. Seriosuly love this guy. Gods are really just immortal aliens that make movies = your life, and then mess with it for their fun and pleasure. So they are of the Greek variety. Again explores the implications of immortality in a very basic way, you wouldn't think it cool had you thought about it for five fucking minutes.

Got a taste for the way its written. Character A says a bit of dialogue then has a think about what is behnd what A has said to B as well as what he might want t say next and then says it. All thoughts marked in Italics. Its just funny to me.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 August 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago)

frank harris my life and loves as contrast to delany's new one

thomp, Saturday, 18 August 2012 09:55 (twelve years ago)

Aleksander Hemon - Question Of Bruno - love this stuff

nostormo, Saturday, 18 August 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago)

Intelligent immortal aliens is a nice simple concept, but given how evolution works, the moment they achieved immortality, their intelligence would stop evolving along with everything else.

Aimless, Saturday, 18 August 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago)

lots more time to read up on things though

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 18 August 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago)

V true.

I like the Herbert a lot though, it does work that stuff through with in some funny episodes. Often the immortals (more talking about The Eyes of Heisenberg now) are a select group that are top of the tree so he works in class-based stuff structures without the economic basis.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 August 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago)

Speaking of John Jeremiah Sullivan, here he is re and with John Fahey and other blues detectives, on a deep lucid trip:
http://www.eyland.org/files/unknown_bards.pdf tylerw posted a link leading to this link on ILM's worthy Takoma One-Offs and Rarities

dow, Saturday, 18 August 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago)

i'm finishing *travels with my aunt* by graham greene and it is a HOOT. a hoot i tell you.

Seconded; that book is so much fun! I don't think I could ever pick a favorite Greene novel but that one's probably in the top tier.

Mick Jagger's favorite novel iirc.

Currently March Of The Microbes by John Ingraham; a sort of field guide to observing microbial activity in nature, food, drink and consumer products. Ingraham was (is?) an enologist at UC Davis during the birth of modern California winemaking so the sections on bacterial and yeast contributions to regional wines are particularly lively. I just bought Sandor Ellix Katz's The Art Of Fermentation as a guide to home culturing, so it's encouraging how much of the industrial process apparently still relies on sight, sound and feel (redwood casks in a winery rumbling to indicate the start of malolactic fermentation, for example).

RCMP, Sunday, 19 August 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago)

i am a slow reader but i just read these three books:

bluets by maggie nelson. it's good. kind of an anne carson thing without being as good as anne carson. nicely full of tangential reference points, lines from williams poems & emerson. i wonder if it is maybe too much of an "intellectual pleasure". it is a book in paragraphs about the colour blue.

speedboat by renata adler. this was great! it's forthcoming on nyrb i think. i know nobody likes literary madlibs but it is sorta like joan didion writing early delillo. there's a quasi-sequel that i probably won't rush into but which i'm glad to know exists.

the bridge of san luis rey by thornton wilder. DL mentions reading this upthread. really incredible. very beautiful. some of the nicest, most florid & balanced prose i've ever read & a terribly moving story. it came on the recommendation of a friend who said it was maybe elliptically cited by blair & bush in the run up to the iraq war, which is a dispiriting thing.

very sexual album (schlump), Monday, 20 August 2012 11:15 (twelve years ago)

rereading Edith Wharton's The Age of Innocence

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago)

I was kind of disappointed to hear that was intended as something of an 'apology' for The House of Mirth's biting criticisms of New York society. Would like to hear if it suffers for it.

ledge, Monday, 20 August 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago)

I've started reading Gabriel Garcia Marquez's One Hundred Years of Solitude. I read Love in the Time of Cholera many years ago.

o. nate, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago)

Will have to read those. Am now passing very carefully (not that caution will be my savior) through vast core of 2626, "The Part About The Crimes."

dow, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago)

100 years is fun and true.

Finished Precarious Rhapsody (Franco Berardi). Found this because of a quote by Mark Fisher saying how suicide is the major political option for our time. An interesting history of the autonomist movement, then goes to explain how the ever increasing speed and fragmentation of human psyche under Capitalism is going to cause major disasters (random violence, mass shootings etc.) in the generations born since 1980. Ends with a unconvincing art manifesto. Easy read, a bit D&G lite and repetitious but I found the second section quite thrilling.

Then ...

Change the World Without Taking Power (John Holloway). Autonomist theory, I am really really really liking this. I'm afraid I cannot offer a deep analysis of the major points brought here but so far into the book he's been challenging the conception of taking over the state as a necessary step for revolution and giving blows to all kinds of Marxist thinkers, party / identity politics, etc. The writing is super clean and precise.

+

Postmodernism or, The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (Fredric Jameson). I'm right in the middle of this. What Simon Reynolds does for electronic music this fine gentleman does for All Contemporary Art and Culture. Truly outstanding, super dense / exquisite prose. The first essay is so good I almost cried in joy.

wolves lacan, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago)

What Simon Reynolds does for electronic music this fine gentleman does for All Contemporary Art and Culture.

thomp, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago)

thomp, you put me in a v difficult position.

wolves lacan, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago)

I was kind of disappointed to hear that was intended as something of an 'apology' for The House of Mirth's biting criticisms of New York society. Would like to hear if it suffers for it

The bites have become concentrated, thorough chewings.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago)

I've been valiantly attempting to polish off all the books gathering dust on my shelves before I buy anything new, and I'm finding it rather rewarding. There's a number of classics kicking around that I've never seemed to get round to.

Read Brave New World over the weekend, and I've just done the first 40 pages of The Bostonians. It hasn't made an instant impression on me, but I'm stubborn enough that I'll daresay I'll stick with it. I've only ever read The Turn of the Screw by James before, which I'm fairly certain is not at all representative. Anyone got anything to vouchsafe regarding the merits or otherwise of Bostonians? I'm not really sure what the consensus is upon it's strengths, if there is a consensus at all.

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago)

well leavis said the bostonians was, with portrait of a lady, one of the two best novels in the english language, so some ppl rate it very highly indeed. it's quite a strange book in some ways - the 'boston marriage' theme is surprisingly modern, and james obviously has some sympathy for the feminists, but at the same time it is one of his most comic novels, so that almost every character (with the exception of the doctor, who is like the book's moral/intellectual centre and close to being an author substitute) has the piss taken out of them, subtly or not so subtly.

needless to say, some of the writing in it is very very fine indeed

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago)

will start today The Colonel by Iranian writer Muhamad DulatAbbadi

nostormo, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago)

A really enjoyable stretch of reading over the last few weeks: Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra and The Winter's Tale, Racine's Phèdre, Marguerite Yourcenar's Memoirs of Hadrian. If this novel is any indication, Yourcenar might become a favourite.

jim, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago)

Goethe's Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship (the first bildungsroman). Next up: Lukac's Theory of the Novel. School is starting. yay.
Also for school/fun: Molly Haskell's From Reverence to Rape: The Treatment of Women in The Movies. Haskell is great but I've been spacing out some on her continual summarizing of movies I haven't seen. It's probably better as a reference but I've been having trouble putting it down, probably because it gives me a welcome break from the Goethe, which isn't all that bad but I think I've lost track of a few plotlines and character IDs so it's become a bit of trudge.

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 August 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago)

Just finished Paula Fox - Desperate Characters which I mostly really liked.

Started Charles Portis - Dog of the South which I'm lukewarm about so far. Something about the narrator doesn't register as real for me.

bert yansh (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 August 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago)

(I think jim is in school too. If not, I salute you, jim.)

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 August 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago)

I adore The Bostonians buy agree that the pace and plot are both attenuated and foreshortened, maybe in a way presaging modernist tricks; one night takes more than a hundred pages of scenery! But it does three things superlatively: (a) evoke Boston in the post-Emerson/Civil war period (b) create a male protagonist whose loathsomeness and charm are indivisible; (c) the subtlety of platonic same-sex relationships, made especially subtle by how power infects them.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago)

I'm reading Can You Forgive Her. Anybody else experienced Trollope?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago)

then i'm gonna finish up pulphead by john jeremiah sullivan. which may have been a mistake to read. oof. makes me want to throw out my computer and my pen and pencil set and anything in the house that might be used as a writing implement. so depressing. not like i'm really in any competitions with any writers - i'm only an occasional writer of occasionals - but still he makes you go damn that's good stuff and i wish i had thought of it. he is an accomplished journalist and i'm not...that. i should look at it as inspiration to try harder. but i hate trying! plus, he's even younger than me. i'll bet he doesn't have kids. kids are the death of any writer. unless you can afford a nanny. or a wife who will give up her life for you. its the least my wife could do! she always wants to "do stuff" that "she would enjoy". a pox on this house!

― scott seward, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 01:22 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's got a piece in the nyt magazine this week abt the williams sisters - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/venus-and-serena-against-the-world.html?ref=magazine

just sayin, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago)

Philip Dick - The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. A lot of great things about it, the main one to note here is that The Beatles references all work and I suspect there is no way anyone will ever write a book in which Beatles references will be made to work.

Few works of fiction work so many cultural references so effortlessly, that's why (there is a bibliography at the back, and music wise I was even more awed by the ref to Wozzeck). Its never made to standout.

Before the Golden Age vol.2 (ed. Asimov). Damn I saw all four vols and I wish I had bought all of them.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 August 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago)

I've been rereading A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again.

This time I did not skip past the last half of E Unibus Pluram, the essay about television, but I must say that DFW's take on television seems to be more deeply informed by his intellect and imagination than by observing anyone else's viewing habits. That six-hours-a-day statistic, horrific as it is, does not necessarily imply the level of engagement and devoted attention that DFW seems to take as a given. I found that if I discounted everything he said by about half, it was a decent enough essay, even though it was (imo) a shining example of overthinking and overanalysis.

Aimless, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago)

i actually tried to read his t.v. thing not that long ago! i couldn't do it. ended up skimming. its too distracting for me to read something if i'm picking it apart paragraph by paragraph. or even sentence by sentence. i'm not in college. don't feel like getting a yellow highlighter out. he's too fond of sweeping statements that i totally disagree with. and its so dated. or not dated maybe. naive? its weird. marshall mcluhan in the 50's feels more current to me than dfw in the 90's.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago)

but yeah overthinking kinda his trademark. and self-consciousness. jesus, so self-conscious. if i say THIS of course i don't mean THIS and i don't want these kinds of people to think that i mean THIS. yikes. just spit it out, einstein.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago)

plus how many ways can you tell people that you don't think t.v. is dumb and that you like t.v. even though it IS dumb of course but not dumb for the reasons that "critics" and "academics" think its dumb and i really do like t.v. but not in the way that other people like t.v. and its dumb and very smart and everything at once and it is all about THIS but its also all about everything else that has ever existed or been thought or felt..........................................oof.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago)

okay i exaggerate a little but he makes you want to do that.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago)

DFW had the intelligence, habit and training to be a full-blown intellectual, but instead he became a fiction writer and occasional essayist. Writing anything deeply intellectual about television is exceedingly difficult to do without sounding like a blowhard, but tv has such widespread cultural presence that intellectuals think they must address it.

By way of comparison, his descriptions of the Illinois State Fair written for Harper's were largely excellent, although he still kept attempting to make sweeping generalizations about its deeper meaning.

Aimless, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago)

i think the essay on tv and fiction is dated in interesting ways, occasionally i think about rereading it and trying to articulate how. more deeply informed by his intellect and imagination than by observing anyone else{'s viewing habits} is a pretty good summation of what goes wrong in his take on the larger culture i think: which is why people who try and take him as a spirit guide are so to be feared and mistrusted. there's an essay on joseph frank's dostoyevsky in 'consider the lobster' which is more about dfw writing infinite jest than it is anything else.

its dumb and very smart and everything at once and it is all about THIS but its also all about everything else that has ever existed or been thought or felt: i was so much more impressed by this aspect of his schtick before i realised, you know, drugs

thomp, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago)

otoh i am reading steven erickson's 'the bonehunters' so: ...

thomp, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago)

is there a good anthology of writing about TV? Like Awake in the Dark: An Anthology of American Film Criticism, 1915 to the Present (meaning 1977), edited by David Denby. Dunno how good you'd say it is overall, but it introduced me to Manny Farber, for instance. Considering that I just now started wondering about a TV equivalent, maybe there isn't much demand. (Mcluhan is a trip, but I'm wondering about other writers, from whatever era.)

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago)

michael j. arlen's 1st collection of tv crit = run don't walk

thomp, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago)

Thanks, I'd forgotten about him, I guess you mean The Living Room War? Intriguing table of contents here, followed by a description of valiant attempts to woo viewers of wealth and taste: http://books.google.com/books?id=NIXK7RkTgncC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22Michael+J.+Arlen%22&source=bl&ots=4nfl5tF-z9&sig=NOaG_rxhrclom1oFZ7teZuV4PWs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eT85UOvhMIqo8gTfjoGgBw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago)

John Leonard.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago)

i almost feel like you have to read about t.v. year by year. it is an ever-morphing beast. cuz i remember from the dfw thing something about having to look hard to find papers or magazines that had anything nice to say about t.v. or that took it seriously and that's when you realize what an impossible fairyland of innocence 1990 or 1991 was.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago)

I don't remember it that way, unless you mean Seinfeld, which rolled on into the truly bubblicious Clinton era. Never got into John Leonard. "Ever-morphing beast": yeah, close enough, which is why I was looking more for a collection by various writers; ideally one covering as many years as that Denby-ed. filmcrit.

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago)

there's a collection of academic tv crit in OUP that looks pretty interesting -- 'television: the critical view'

for the anthology you want to see exist i don't know if there's been enough good writing on tv that operates at arlen's level or dfw's rather than at the academy's or the onion av club's

thomp, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago)

i'd have to look at his essay again. but it seems like he was still starting from the premise that serious people didn't take t.v. seriously or have nice things to say about it as of...1990 or whenever he wrote the thing. and its hard to remember that because t.v. is taken so seriously now by so many people and its a kind of religion now.

x-post

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago)

academic papers on reality t.v. or american idol could probably fill a library.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago)

checking on Thomp's rec Television: The Critical View, which didn't look too academic in the bad way, also found some promising quotes from Thinking Outside The Box, edited by Gary R. Edgerton. Excerpt from publisher's description (this was published in 2008):
While television genre was seen as static in the scholarship of the 1980s, Thinking Outside the Box explores the malleable and reflective nature of various TV programs...The authors analyze less-studied genres such as cartoons, soap operas, and talk shows, locating their place and critical importance in American society. Thinking Outside the Box also examines the ways in which television genres have begun to blend together in recent years. Shows such as American Idol, The Osbournes, Fear Factor, and Trading Spaces are all examples of hybrid programming that illustrate the intuitive nature of genre and how its formulas succeed within mainstream television. The book closes with an investigation of American television's reach into foreign countries and its impact on the patterns of various genres worldwide. Thinking Outside the Box is an essential resource for understanding television's past and future. It is the first book to focus on genre as a significant process in the development of the TV industry...

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago)

"intuitive nature of genre": here come the sandworms

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago)

Come to think of it, some of the TV commentary blogs, incl the NYTimes and sites of fired crits, attract enough pertinent responses to serve as conversational anthologies for a while. But will I find them in the back room of a used book store 30 years from now, like I found Awake In The Dark? I'll be lucky to find myself by that point. Oh well, maybe the Wayback Machine of ancient-formatted Web pages (the WM's at archive.org)

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago)

Sebald: Vertigo -- holy shit!

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago)

i mostly love DFW but yeah, his television essay feels like one of his more half-baked moments, one of the few times he just seemed like a super-smart college student eager to impress his favorite prof. when his 'overthinking' approach clicks, tho, it really clicks -- espec in the essay 'consider the lobster' which devastated me so much when i read it i don't think i've ever managed to get through it a second time (tho i've reread everything else in that book multiple times).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago)

never knew about this! very funny.

http://www.abebooks.com/books/weird/index.shtml

scott seward, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago)

http://www.abebooks.com/images/books/weird-book-room/Apr27/Does-God-Ever-speak-Cats.jpg

sold out!

rayuela, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago)

Has anyone read any Don Winslow? Southern California crime writer.

calstars, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago)

Sebald: Vertigo -- holy shit!

I'm looking forward to this. I loved Rings of Saturn. Austerlitz not so much. The pathos seemed too straightforward, or maybe the amnesia trope was too flimsy to handle it.

I think I'm going to try Winter's Tale by Mark Helprin. Any fans?

jim, Friday, 31 August 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago)

i think vertigo and rings of saturn are the essential sebald reads.

scott seward, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago)

I'd say Austerlitz and The Emigrants but, yeah, they're all worthy

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 August 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago)

oh wait the emigrants...

yeah i guess austerlitz was the one where i felt like i'd been down that road with him enough? but, you know, if it were almost anyone else's book it would be the best book they ever wrote. probably.

scott seward, Friday, 31 August 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago)

finished Vertical Motion by Can Xue - short stories in a sort of dreamscape style, but with a lot of really old-school surrealist feeling - this rooting of the weird dream logic in the actual world. Very, very good stories, deeply weird and good

we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago)

I think I'm going to try Winter's Tale by Mark Helprin. Any fans?

This didn't quite live up to its reputation for me but it was still enjoyable. Maybe a bit too overambitious, like there are a couple really great ideas in there padded with stuff that doesn't work quite as well. It's been years since I read it, though, so I can't really say anything more specific than that, unfortunately. But yeah, when it's good, it's really good.

cwkiii, Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago)

alfred i'm rereading can you forgive her? when i get a moment here and there! reading trollope is pure gossipy pleasure imo. also he was great at titles.

horseshoe, Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago)

Winter's Tale is... enjoyable, so says my fifteen year-old self. From what I can remember, it isn't worth the entire effort it demands, but there's no denying it has its moments.

The Shadow Of The Sun by Ryszard Kapuscinski - Snakes and malaria! Possibly true! Fun stuff.

"Scrooge McDuck is soooooo sexy." (R Baez), Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago)

Gonna read Pendennis by Thackeray next. Anyone wanna comment?

"Scrooge McDuck is soooooo sexy." (R Baez), Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago)

alfred i'm rereading can you forgive her? when i get a moment here and there! reading trollope is pure gossipy pleasure imo. also he was great at titles.

― horseshoe, Sunday, September 2, 2012 12:20 PM

Such a pleasure this novel, much more fun than Phineas Finn.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago)

Orlando - Virginia Woolf - so good!

nostormo, Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago)

Uneven, but xpost "when it's good, it's really good": also true of Helprin's Refiner's Fire. Somewhere between these books, I think, is when he was writing op-eds for the Wall Street Journal and speeches for George H.W. Bush. He's a visionary yarnspinner, but his politics sometimes have gravitational influence on his speculative, creative flights and sleights of hand (sometimes you get too hip to what he's pulling)

dow, Sunday, 2 September 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago)

But maybe that's the limit of his art, and his politics, not right or left, but how he carries them. I mean, Bolano,s really pissed about all the dead women in 2666, like he's pissed and digusted about the rest of what's fucked up about Mexico, and though he can be lofty, he's a barnstormer, while Helprin's more the Red Baron (though also a blue state blueblood, at least his tone, Refiner's Fire indeed)

dow, Sunday, 2 September 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago)

Gonna read Pendennis by Thackeray next. Anyone wanna comment?

Nothing to say, but I'll be interested to hear about it. Like Vanity Fair a lot, but I've always looked at Pendennis and The Newcomes and thought, with a bit of regret, "I will never ever read those books, life is too short and there are too many books".

otoh I've thought that about Daniel Deronda before now, but I just took it away and read it on holiday. Strange book; amazing opening 200pp, and found it most engaging when it was like a Mannerist hyperanalytical blow-up of a Jane Austen novel. Deronda a bit of a static character, don't think Eliot quite hits the mystico-political prophetic strain she needs later on. also, not very good at London.

Also read Something Fresh by Wodehouse. A bit thin (still obviously enjoyable), but following it with Heavy Weather which is A+++++.

Thinking of reading an anatomy textbook, have all these muscles and organs etc in my body, am curious about them. Also, I like picking up ice-cold science vocab.

woof, Monday, 3 September 2012 09:44 (twelve years ago)

I'm in a bit of a block this last month but have two on the go, in fits.

Iain M Banks' State of the Art is mostly pretty poor tbh. I hadn't read him before and amn't very impressed. Most of these pieces are kind of tweeish one-liners stretched into story form (plus you can't stand jokey footnotes and authorial asides - Ed.) and I ploughed through them slightly against my judgement because it was a gift. But it's unexpectedly taken wing with the title story, which is about The Culture, which I understand to be a recurring feature in his work. It's really excellent, about an advanced alien culture observing earth, and for once the annoying voice is more or less acceptable. I feel I'm bit a churlish on the whole, and I'm not anti-SciFi per se, but sometimes reading something basically vacuous brings home how much extra content you get effortlessly from real-world books.

The other is The Second World War by Antony Beevor, to which I'm only about fifty pages in but is absolutely ripper so far. Few individuals in it so far, and I'm not expecting many who aren't The Big Guys, or else symbols, but that's unavoidable if you're attempting to cover the most-complicated-thing-to-have-ever-happened in a single volume.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 September 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago)

If you like the title story then no reason you shouldn't like the culture novels I reckon. Assuming you have the stomach for a few hundred more pages of the same with extra spaceships and ray guns.

ledge, Monday, 3 September 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago)

That might be a problem if that's what they start being about; it's the 'human' part of the story that's got me, Linter wanting to be part of Earth. It's been done sufficiently well to make me believe the Culture books won't go in a techfetish/humancipher direction, I'd certainly have no time for that.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 September 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago)

they are pretty heavily techfetish tbh, the later ones especially. player of games perhaps the most 'human', although it's set in the violent feudal empire of a three-gendered humanoid species (to contrast with the enlightened culture agent protagonist). Ok they're not for everyone.

ledge, Monday, 3 September 2012 10:59 (twelve years ago)

Sam Delaney - Triton: sex change in space SF, from '77.
Ursula LeGuin - The Dispossed: Trots in space SF, from '75.

Turgenev - First Love. This is kinda killing me with its precise descriptions of those first emotions of anguish, longing, utter dejection with the odd moment of happiness seepng through with such intensity that it makes the 99% of this madness you've got to go through worthwhile...almost too perfect I want to doubt it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 September 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago)

Dispossessed, I mean...

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 September 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago)

People Who Eat Darkness - Richard Lloyd Perry. Well written true crime case. Also Jubilee Hitchhiker, the mammoth bio of Richard Brautigan. By the way, I just joined ILX . . . so let me introduce myself as Gina, aka Silvercigarette. Is there a good place for new folks to introduce themselves on ILX? Can't seem to find one.

Silvercigarette, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago)

For I Love Books, you could revive this one: There Should Be an ILB Introduce Yourself .

btw, I did a search on "introduce" restricted to thread titles on ILB. You could do the same search for all the boards or any one of them. Oh, and welcome to ILB, Silvercigarette. We're a fairly friendly crew. But beware of I Love Music; it is a shark tank over there, I hear.

(holds up left hand with two missing fingers. grins ruefully)

Aimless, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago)

welcome! there are a million introduce yourself threads on ILE. here's one:

Introduce Yourselves!

scott seward, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago)

Turgenev - First Love. This is kinda killing me with its precise descriptions of those first emotions of anguish, longing, utter dejection with the odd moment of happiness seepng through with such intensity that it makes the 99% of this madness you've got to go through worthwhile...almost too perfect I want to doubt it.

the experience of reading this was so shattering about fifteen years ago that I haven't been able to bear repeating it

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago)

hello Silvercigarette, didn't know there was a Braut biog, I'm guessing it makes for fairly depressing reading? the uk paperback edition of Trout Fishing in America has a rave review from, of all ppl, auberon waugh on the back.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago)

Hello silvercigarette or gina. I have nothing specific to add, but if you do introduce yourself properly I might join in because I've never done it on ilx. Then again, introducing oneself 22,389 posts in might feel a little redundant.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago)

Thanks for your veritable outpouring of welcome - and I will look up those threads.

Yes, the Brautigan bio came out a few months ago - fascinating, but depressing for sure. Isamael, love your answer.

Silvercigarette, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago)

Turgenev - First Love Love this book so much.

Read 'The People of Forever Are Not Afraid' by Shani Boianjiu, about 3 girls growing up in a small, boring Israeli town and then their conscripted army days. Most chapters works as self-contained stories. Really really good, except for the second-last chapter, which is disastrously bad and almost derails the whole book. Does nobody get editoed any more?

Now reading Ian McEwan's 'Sweet Tooth', which is OK, but def. his weakest book in years (since Amsterdam, anyway)

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago)

And yeah, most of the stories in 'The State of the Art' are rubbish, but the title novella is pretty representative of the early Culture novels.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago)

Shit, I misspelled "edited" when complaining about lack of editing.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago)

finished this side of paradise yesterday the ending scene in the car lost me a bit but i did really enjoy it. fitzgerald was my age when he wrote that...

i anticipate a relatively light workload this month so i think this is gonna be a "shakespeare month"

k3vin k., Monday, 3 September 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago)

Great to hear about everyone's love of Turgenev's First Love - a friend just got me that book on Saturday.

"Scrooge McDuck is soooooo sexy." (R Baez), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago)

alright because it's being so talked up, i'll read "first love" tomorrow. sounds short?

k3vin k., Monday, 3 September 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago)

looks like it's here fwiw

k3vin k., Monday, 3 September 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago)

being unemployed is p good for reading:

Beckett, molloy
Borges, labyrinths
mishima, confessions of a mask
carver, selected stories
trocchi, cain's book
bellatin, salon de belleza
toole, confederacy of dunces
some engels bio
heti, how should a person be?

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago)

Hi jim, is Cain's Book good? I liked Young Adam very much & got as far as browsing through CB the one time I saw it, but the sheer grimness made me go for some piece of fluff instead.

All going well otherwise?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago)

I've been pressing on with The Bostonians in my fairly limited free time, and thoroughly enjoying it too. James is so undiscriminating in picking out his targets and seems to avoid providing you with any kind of definite moral landmark to focus upon. It means that your allegiances as a reader can't help but say something about your own prejudices, like you're being judged by the novel.

I suppose I'm rooting for Basil Ransom, because those old-fashioned notions of chivalry and, more importantly, his lion's mane and aristocratic Southern accent appeal to me rather more than Olive's repressed lesbianism and cold, brittle uber-feminism. But damn, James is good at making me cheer when Ransom wins a point only to pull back and wonder again and again whether or not I actually like this irresistible pig.

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago)

He's so smug that he's likeable

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago)

Haha, that sounds about right I think. As part and parcel of that, I love the power that he exercises over the narrative - "I could delve into this idea or that plot point much more deeply if I cared to, but this is my story and I have no intention of doing so. SUCK IT". An omniscient narrator who enjoys fucking with you.

There have been a number of occasions (usually to do with Verena Tarrant and her "Gift" / lack thereof, I've found) where the narrative voice has made a confident assertion in an aside that directs you towards one line of thinking, only for that all to be completely undermined by the very next passage of dialogue and action. But it's not that he's inconsistent, it's simply that he's so in control of this world. Like he's chuckling at you as you dance the steps he lays out for you. It ties back in to that feeling of being judged by the novel. Such a clear sense that this is his house.

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago)

Great posts, Windsor - for a fuller sense of that authorial control, it's def worth reading James' notes and outlines on his own work.

The last line of The Bostonians contains a wonderful authorial aside to the reader that brilliantly...complicates...the final outcome. James was very very good on endings.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago)

Prince of tales the Neil Gaiman overview book. Found it again half read after getting it at the beginning of the year. Now about half way through.
Just read the entries on the Books of Magic.

Joshua Zeitz's book Flapper on the 20s female trend. Enjoying it. Reading it as my travel book, so it's been siting in jacket pockets.

White Light/White Heat the VU day by day book by Unterberger. Could've done with a bit better proofreading but fascinating book.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago)

Antwerp by Bolaño and I'm struggling a bit. There is perhaps just about enough of an accumulation of empty houses, empty streets, edge-of-town spaces, woods, repeated mechanised woman/man interactions (lighting a cigarette for the other), the recurring hunchback to see patterns emerge, if not a narrative.

and with the continual reconfiguration of these elements you get a strong aesthetic sense of the desuetude of a desiccated international zone of being - people drifting places, borders, policemen, observers, trains, the sea, temporary encounters in temporary places that cease to be as quickly as they are brought into existence. (i'd just been reading it in a London restaurant, and when i walked out onto the street again, i had the peculiar sensation of being in a foreign city, which i guess I may be able to credit the book for - equally it might just be the experience of eating and reading alone and stepping out into unusually mild and humid evening).

But really that's me working pretty hard at it - the atomised monotony of the text may have a point, but it's not enjoyable to read, and i was reminded of that crypto-arabic proverb, 'he talks like a sheep shits, at random and everywhere'. ('loose' Matt DC described it on the Bolaño thread and that was being v kind). i realise that's the point (so what?) but none of this seems compensated for by any intensity of purpose such as might make a virtue out of the stylistic pain. it feels portentous, unwitty. Some of that may be the translation I guess:

Then an artillery barracks, through the open gates of which I could see a group of recruits smoking, their bearing far from military.

a sentence which i can hear my great aunt joyce saying, followed by a 'well I mean...'.

wd be interested to hear from people who like this, cos I feel suspicious of my kneejerk impulse to dismiss, but it's a tedious slog for me at the moment - thank god it's not very long.

shd xpost to the specific thread i guess - it's been so long since i've read anything in any but the most desultory manner, that I shd probably make the most of it now i am. plus ill-advised forays into ilm and ile (talking football! what was I thinking!) mean i need to do some catching up round here.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago)

I enjoyed your football digression! Not that I remember what it was about now, but such is the nature of footy chat.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago)

thanks! anyway, combination of new job + usual life chaos has meant that both ilx and reading generally had gone by the wayside - and that is an inversion of the correct state of affairs.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago)

Hi jim, is Cain's Book good? I liked Young Adam very much & got as far as browsing through CB the one time I saw it, but the sheer grimness made me go for some piece of fluff instead.

All going well otherwise?

things going well.cain's book was great,and grim.some pontificating about drugs that's a bit on the nose.such a great writer,what a waste that he wrote so few novels.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago)

reading "first love" now and am floored by this passage:

I sat down on a chair, and sat a long while, as though spell-bound. What I was feeling was so new and so sweet.... I sat still, hardly looking round and not moving, drew slow breaths, and only from time to time laughed silently at some recollection, or turned cold within at the thought that I was in love, that this was she, that this was love. Zinaïda’s face floated slowly before me in the darkness — floated, and did not float away; her lips still wore the same enigmatic smile, her eyes watched me, a little from one side, with a questioning, dreamy, tender look ... as at the instant of parting from her. At last I got up, walked on tiptoe to my bed, and without undressing, laid my head carefully on the pillow, as though I were afraid by an abrupt movement to disturb what filled my soul.... I lay down, but did not even close my eyes. Soon I noticed that faint glimmers of light of some sort were thrown continually into the room.... I sat up and looked at the window. The window-frame could be clearly distinguished from the mysteriously and dimly-lighted panes. It is a storm, I thought; and a storm it really was, but it was raging so very far away that the thunder could not be heard; only blurred, long, as it were branching, gleams of lightning flashed continually over the sky; it was not flashing, though, so much as quivering and twitching like the wing of a dying bird. I got up, went to the window, and stood there till morning.... The lightning never ceased for an instant; it was what is called among the peasants a sparrow night. I gazed at the dumb sandy plain, at the dark mass of the Neskutchny gardens, at the yellowish façades of the distant buildings, which seemed to quiver too at each faint flash.... I gazed, and could not turn away; these silent lightning flashes, these gleams seemed in response to the secret silent fires which were aglow within me. Morning began to dawn; the sky was flushed in patches of crimson. As the sun came nearer, the lightning grew gradually paler, and ceased; the quivering gleams were fewer and fewer, and vanished at last, drowned in the sobering positive light of the coming day....

And my lightning flashes vanished too. I felt great weariness and peace ... but Zinaïda’s image still floated triumphant over my soul. But it too, this image, seemed more tranquil: like a swan rising out of the reeds of a bog, it stood out from the other unbeautiful figures surrounding it, and as I fell asleep, I flung myself before it in farewell, trusting adoration....

Oh, sweet emotions, gentle harmony, goodness and peace of the softened heart, melting bliss of the first raptures of love, where are they, where are they?

k3vin k., Friday, 7 September 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago)

ooh stop

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago)

One of the pleasure of reading is how it sometimes it simply is bad for you. When I talked about First Love it was remarkable as a work but incredibly bad for you in a certan frame of mind; but in that sense I would not have it any other way.

Jim that is a fantastic selection - hope you find a job soon.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:42 (twelve years ago)

Thomas M. Disch - 334. Couldn't get into this at all. Can anyone help if they've read and liked this?

Octavia E.Butler - The patternmaster. Liked the tale, feel there is much underneath I didn't catch onto, really like to read more by her.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago)

what other turgenev do we recommend? the volume i've got also has "diary of a superfluous man" and "acia" btw

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago)

On The Eve and Fathers and Children! The former always gets overlooked.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago)

Spring torrents is ace, too: fairlu autobiographical, based on Turgenev's obsession with and semi menage-au-thingy with an Italian opera singer

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago)

Thomas M. Disch - 334. Couldn't get into this at all. Can anyone help if they've read and liked this?

for its rep as his Big Success i think this is pretty bad, at least in 2012 it's pretty bad. gender stuff feels a little unpleasant, dystopia stuff feels a little off the peg. i remember + enjoy the description of david's 'the death of socrates' as 'some old guy in a bedsheet giving some other old guys the finger'; i don't think there's a single other thing i enjoyed, though, and i like on whatever level at least four of his other books

thomp, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago)

Jostein Gaarder, The Orange Girl. I needed something nice to ease me back into reading, and this fits me well.

The style is a little less direct than I'd like. It's a father's letter to his son, and has tons of tiny digressions - I find these as irritating as the author's persona, I realise, i.e. not at all in this case, but hugely with the Iain M. Banks I read recently. It's a kids' book really, of course, but I'm fine with that; it's also got a kind of wide-eyed wonder at the world, which I find nearly always an attractive thing.

It reminds me a lot of The Alchemist, which I also liked, though this one's grounded in reason rather than codswallop. I should hate The Alchemist really, were I being dogmatic about things - I deduce that wonder and pleasure are more important to me.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 11:09 (twelve years ago)

Who's The Alchemist are we talking about here?

ledge, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago)

Whose! Whose!

ledge, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago)

Paulo Coelho's. Never noticed it mentioned on here, but my sixth sense is telling me it'll be ilx's most-hated book ever.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago)

Perhaps the only book I've ever felt a strong desire to burn.

ledge, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago)

Whüse is the other one btw?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago)

The Alchemist (novel), the translated title of a 1988 allegorical novel by Paulo Coelho
The Alchemist (play), a play by Ben Jonson
The Alchemist, a novel by Donna Boyd
"The Alchemist" (short story), a short story by H. P. Lovecraft
The Alchemist (novelette), a science fiction novelette by Charles L. Harness

take yr pick

ledge, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobsang_Rampa

Lobsang Rampa went on to write another 18 books containing a mixture of religious and occult material. One of the books, Living With The Lama, was described as being dictated to Rampa by his pet Siamese cat, Mrs Fifi Greywhiskers.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago)

The bookstore at which I worked in the early 2000s could not stock enough copies of Coelho's drivel. As soon as a shipment arrived, the copies were gone.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago)

yeah, point of the lobsang rampa link was to suggest that there is always a market for this kind of vapid pish (carlos castenada being the obv example)

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago)

picked up 3 more 99c books
a thing on Metallica by Mick Wall
Ulysses & us on the influence3 on culture of the James Joyce book
& a bio of Dorothy Lange - A Life Beyond Limits

Easons does turn up quite a few decent things in these sales it seems.
Thought the box was nearly empty last time I looked, which must've been Sunday. Wonder what else I'll find in there.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago)

don't think there's a single other thing i enjoyed, though, and i like on whatever level at least four of his other books

Same here - read a couple of his other books and really liked them, esp Camp Concentration

Daniel Keyes - Flowers for Algernon. Like CC, it works the scientific experiment on people angle - this time its IQ enhancement to genius level. Some of the side effects are a bit facile: emotional dysfunction and that supposed impatience with others that your neighbourhood genius is meant to have even though they've grown up in a 'normal' way ('he's intelligent but is he happy?'). I liked how Charlie actually worked on the theory that gave rise to the experiment, and I wanted that to be explored a bit more. Like in CC he keeps a journal so you see him actually improving his spelling, punctuation and overall control of language -- and then tragically losing it as his condition degenerates again. Quite moving, but I wonder whether if he wrote like Henry James might suit a bit more. Not something you can simulate..

Harlan Ellison - All the Sounds of Fear.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago)

started new chabon this morning

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago)

or if charlie went through a phase of being a tireless grammar pedant and peaked at an all-small-capes type with a fondness for ~tildes~, that would also work

thomp, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago)

alfred (or anyone, quick, i'm at the library) - which translator of turgenev to choose?

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago)

For anyone else still catching up, I just now read Anthony Lane's review of Michael Gorra's Portrait of A Novel: Henry James and The Making of An American Masterpiece--by far the best thing I've ever read by Lane, though he continues his recently exemplary soldiering through okay and not-okay movies,dispensing judicious props and zingers (better you than me, sir).
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2012/09/03/120903crbo_books_lane

dow, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago)

It's wonderful reading.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago)

Can anyone recommend a single volume WWII book? I'm thinking either The Storm of War by Andrew Roberts or Inferno by Max Hastings.

Recently finished:
The Guns of August - Tuchman
A Short History of Reconstruction - Forner
The Great Gatsby and Tender is the Night - Fitzgerald

Moreno, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago)

how was 'tender is the night'? i've gone through GG and 'this side of paradise' in the past year

decided on constance garnett as a translator, he did the edition of 'first love' i just finished and i thought it was great, much richer and more delicate than a couple of passages from an alternate translation i skimmed to compare

la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago)

I liked it. It's a little odd transitioning from GG to TitN because it lacks the quick wit and economy of the former, but it's got some beautiful sections. Heartbreaking though. Is 'Paradise' worth reading? I just ordered a short story collection of his.

Moreno, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago)

It's difficult to read the Ulysses Grant tomb scene in TITN and not laugh. The novel stands or falls on the reader's willingness to think Diver is a tragic figure. I do not. Yet the novel is worth a read. The Rosemary sections and the bits in the end from Nicole's point of view when she decides she loves Tommy Barban as much as she wants to fuck him are first-rate -- maybe Fitz's best rendering of a certain kind of feminine point of view.

The gay jokes are terrible.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago)

back to Dog of the South again, liking it more now, very funny. I think I was missing some of the narrator's inadequate self-awareness/unreliability at first.

Just found a copy of Gaddis's Carpenter Gothic in my building's basement -- score.

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago)

of course This Side of Paradise is worth reading! The hero's name is Amory Blaine! The heroine is named Rosalind! But I'm curious if it affects anyone over 18. At the time the bits in verse and play form looked like the ultimate in modernist chic.

I used to cite the novel's last line often lol

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago)

Constance Garnett translated most Russian lit in the early 20th century. He works for Turgenev but for Chekhov not so much.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago)

i'm 23 and it affected me, but i definitely identified with his decidedly Catholic experience with women (girls!).

remember though that fitzgerald was 23 when it was published

la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago)

the novel's second version was called The Romantic Egoist lol

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago)

i knew myself, and that was all i knew, or something like that

*googles*

la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago)

the novel's second version was called The Romantic Egoist lol

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:05 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the original title iirc?

la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago)

xpost about TitN, it's more Diver's transition from thoughtful and patient to selfish, pathetic drunk that feels off. I read a good follow up article in the New Yorker about the couple Fitzgerald based the Diver's of the first section on that had some sad, but occasionally funny stories about him.

Moreno, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago)

Gerald and Sara Murphy, who in every Fitz bio come off much more articulate and assured than the Divers.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago)

Don't know if any subsequent biographers disputed it, but Calvin Tomkins' Living Well Is The Best Revenge is very appealing. The trade paperback I've got includes black and white versions of Gerald's paintings, which are ace. And! Tomkins' xpost original New Yorker profile of G and S, from the early 60s (Gerald saw the movie of Tender) is available even to lowly non-subscribers like me
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1962/07/28/1962_07_28_031_TNY_CARDS_000267984

dow, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago)

Constance Garnett translated most Russian lit in the early 20th century. He works for Turgenev but for Chekhov not so much.

Was that a typo, Alfred? Constance Garnett was a woman, who met Tolstoy and knew and worked on translation with Sergei Stepniak. I used to walk past her old house a lot when I was growing up. An interesting life by all accounts, and a person who made translating Russian literature into English her life's work - a huge and groundbreaking achievement. She was certainly responsible for introducing me to many of the Russian classics - as for many teenagers a v important part of my book reading.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago)

nabokov had this hilarious quote about how much he hated joseph conrad for saying that 'mrs garnett' made tolstoy's books worth reading.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago)

Moreno, I'm reading Antony Beevor's The Second World War just now. It's good, easy reading, but I can't compare it with anything because I've never tackled any other single-volume treatment.

Were I being critical, I'd've said it lacked colour - how could it not? It's only 800 pages, there's little room for the telling detail or for going deeper. But in fact it doesn't suffer, what's there is well-chosen and the clarity makes things roll along. It'd've been nice to have a quick portrait of the main players as they appear, rather than just a sentence or two - I'm still not sure whether Hitler's a good guy or not - but it's not like they're unknowns and in fairness it emerges gradually.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 06:43 (twelve years ago)

dow, thank you for that link to the Anthony Lane review, which I enjoyed (and have put the Gorra on my Wish List). I guess it helped the structure of Lane's piece to single out that paragraph from the opening chapter - and it is fine writing - but I've always thought that the opening of Portrait is amongst the weakest things James ever wrote (and he was normally so good at beginnings, and at endings.) I've heard it said that the opening chapter is intended as a pastiche (of romantic fiction?) but I'm sure it's put quite a few readers from progressing further.

Lane's point about the way that the novel's meaning etc changes over time/re-readings is echoed in this nice little essay by Claire Messud:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/jan/17/classics.henryjames

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 08:11 (twelve years ago)

many xposts, a Henry James 'Flowers for Algernon' is an amazing idea. Currently reading The Turn of the Screw (and other stories). Read it many years ago but didn't get much out of it, I thought that now I had more experience of James, and of ~~life~~, I might get more, sadly no. It's just too damn vague. Not really in terms of the ambiguity, I know the fact that it's never clear exactly what is going on is part of the appeal - but neither is it clear what the governess thinks is going on. What exactly is the influence of the supposed spooks? Her explanations are maddeningly elliptical and I cannot really muster up much sympathy with the children or horror of their false friends on such scanty evidence. What e.g. are we to make of the bit near the end where she suggests Miles has the better of her because he has somehow been blessed, or cursed, with "absolute intelligence?" Very strange.

ledge, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago)

Her explanations are maddeningly elliptical

if the governess is entirely delusional, this would make sense, no? #edmundwilson

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 08:42 (twelve years ago)

One feels that she has a very clear idea of what is going on, even if she is mistaken. But I take your point. And I know that James precisely did not want to offer any too concrete examples, judging it far more effective for the reader to fill in what his own imagination & experience might supply. I just prefer the more old fashioned 'slashers & screamers' - MR James ftw.

ledge, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago)

Think there's room for both approaches, obv, but funnily enough, that Anthony Lane review linked to above nails it for me:

James was the nonpareil of the hiatus: “the whole of anything is never told,” he confided to his Notebooks

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 08:55 (twelve years ago)

Was that a typo, Alfred?

She was a male impersonator.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago)

Just found a copy of Gaddis's Carpenter Gothic in my building's basement -- score.

Nice! Great book!

I'm about 2/3 of the way through Balzac's Pere Goirot at the moment which is just ridiculously brilliant. Also reading John Dickson Carr's The Demoniacs and slowly making my way through Studs Terkel's Working.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago)

Pere Goriot, sorry.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago)

è (really, really sorry). :)

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago)

I wish I could convince my beers-n-books club to do Carpenter Gothic, but we've kind of reached this equillibrium of picking smart-but-not-too-hard books so that no one feels completely put off. Although I find that Gaddis gets a lot easier to read if you make a little play out of it in your head with distinct voices for each character.

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago)

Carpenter's Gothic, rather

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago)

Balzac is so much fun! Lost Illusions was my Xmas reading eight or nine years ago.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago)

I was at an antique mall in Ohio a few months ago and they had a 15-book set of The Human Comedy for $75 and I was all like "But what if I don't like him?" and didn't buy it. Went home and ordered this one off Amazon. Feel like an idiot.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago)

Although I find that Gaddis gets a lot easier to read if you make a little play out of it in your head with distinct voices for each character.

Carpenter's Gothic would make an amazing play! It kind of feels like one; there's only one setting, and it's nearly all dialog (duh Gaddis). And it's definitely the least difficult Gaddis, so I think you might be able to sell your book club on it.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago)

Carpenter's Gothic is (I think?) the only Gaddis novel I haven't read. I can't find it in any library and am too poor to buy books very often, and whenever I get a gift card or whatever I never seem to think of it. I would love to discuss Gaddis with a beer-related book club.

franny glass, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago)

2/3 through Gringos by Charles Portis

"You put things off and then one morning you wake up and say — today I will change the oil in my truck."

That's priceless.

"An Andy Kaufman for the Four Loko generation" (R Baez), Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago)

I love all the car descriptions in "Dog of the South"

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago)

Last Orders by Graham Swift - one of the better Booker-winners I've read.

Ford's Independence Day - as beautifully written as its rep suggests but funnier than I expected.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 13 September 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago)

Going retro-marxisant for a few days:
One-Dimensional Man, Herbert Marcuse
All That Is Solid Melts Into Air, Marshall Berman

woof, Thursday, 13 September 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago)

I'm reading The Report of the Hillsborough Independent Panel. It's extremely clear and fascinating, quite apart from its emotive subject-matter. The writers have done a fine job.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 September 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago)

Mick Wall's book on Metallica crawled into my hand and stayed there. Not really been into the band at any stage so surprised I'm unable to put the book down. Now want to hear the early material at least by them.
May grow dragon's horns from my fingers or something. Is it contagious?

Stevolende, Thursday, 13 September 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago)

That huge collection of Anthony Lane's journalism, Nobody's Perfect, has some wonderful lit crit in it.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Friday, 14 September 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago)

Finished the rest of the James short stories (in the volume I was reading). 'The Real Thing', 'The Tree of Knowledge', and 'Maud-Evelyn' all whimsically entertaining to some degree. 'The Figure in the Carpet' is nothing but hiatus - but all the more remarkable for it. 'The Jolly Corner' is ridiculous. 'The Beast in the Jungle' though - oh my giddy aunt. Unreservedly a masterpiece.

ledge, Friday, 14 September 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago)

Supposedly the ghosts in 'Turn of the Screw' are Victorian archetypes of pederasts; that subtlety was lost on me.

get you ass to mahs (abanana), Friday, 14 September 2012 09:15 (twelve years ago)

the 1961 film The Innocents (based on TotS) is well worth watching.

koogs, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:10 (twelve years ago)

george v higgins - the digger's game

the hig is an acquired taste, he tells his boston noir tales almost entirely in dialogue and this is the best novel of his i've read, hilarious and i don't if suspenseful is the right word but i couldn't wait to find out what happened next to these lunatics. "the digger" character made me think of john self in martin amis' money which segues into....

martin amis - lionel asbo

halfway through and predictably am enjoying. take it w/salt since i'm an amis stan tho not completely blind to his inconsistency. but i think the US critics have been wrong comparing this to money and london fields, it's grimmer/stripped-down, appropriate to its time. "his best in years"

cynthia carr - fire in the belly: the life and times of david wojnarowicz

reading this next. i've always been fascinated by this guy and actually rate him higher as writer than as artist based not on his impassioned anti-AIDS rants but on some wild first person/autobiographical stories he published in downtown NYC rags back in the early 80s. we'll see.

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago)

'turn in the screw' is the most plausible one but there isn't an incident in james that hasn't been given a sexualised reading

thomp, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago)

christopher frayling's commentary track on the BFI DVD of The Innocents is one of the very best of its kind.

The sexual element to Turn of the Screw is one of the less hidden aspects of the tale, imho - it is, at least one level, very obviously a story of innocence corrupted (and THAT was, of course, one of James' great themes.) The depravity of Peter Quint ('quim') is obviously a sexual one, and his interest in the children is sexual, too - his crime is, in part, to turn the children into sexual, desiring beings like himself and his mistress (the most shocking moment in The Innocents comes when the little boy kisses the governess fully on the mouth.) And the virginity of the governess - her own innocence - also leads into the suggestion that her unfulfilled desire for the children's uncle has been projected onto the children themselves.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago)

Plus of course, at the meta-textual level, there's the question of James' own virginity and unfulfilled desires to factor in.

The simple things you see are all complicated.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago)

'his best in years'

phrases that sum up literary fiction

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 14 September 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago)

george v higgins - the digger's game

So good! All the Higgins I've read has been excellent. He's fantastic with dialogue, and I love the way his novels are simultaneously compelling and disorienting; "i couldn't wait to find out what happened next to these lunatics" is spot on, but at the same time, due to in media res/complete absence of exposition, it's usually not until you're deep into the novel that you really have any idea what's going on.

cwkiii, Friday, 14 September 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago)

opening sentence of Friends of Eddie Coyle is all-time:

"Jackie Brown, at twenty-six, with no expression on his face, said that he could get some guns."

Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 September 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago)

i bought a ton of books today (for me and the store) at a tent sale next to grey matter books which is one of the greatest used book stores. anyway, i got the four big books that robert ardley wrote in the 50s to the 70's. punk rock anthropology! he was one of the dudes who helped popularize the "killer ape" theory of man's evolution. kubrick and clarke were fans. sam peckinpah was a fan according to wiki! (strother martin made him a convert). anyway, they look crazy. and they are filled with punk rock rants too. these books:

African Genesis: A Personal Investigation into the Animal Origins and Nature of Man (1961)
The Territorial Imperative: A Personal Inquiry into the Animal Origins of Property and Nations (1966)
The Social Contract: A Personal Inquiry into the Evolutionary Sources of Order and Disorder (1970)
The Hunting Hypothesis: A Personal Conclusion Concerning the Evolutionary Nature of Man (1976)

they are very personal books too. filled with personal anecdotes. like autobios that also include lots of bird and hippo lore. he was a group theater playwright who worked with kazan and wrote screenplays and then he went to africa and blammo four epic books about why man is so bloody.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 September 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago)

sorry, robert ARDREY.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 September 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago)

Lots of great posts on Henry James - must read more than just some of the short stories.

Also been thinking of collecting a few Balzac paperbks to read in one go.

Samuel Delaney - The Jewels of Aptor.
Tayleb Salih - Season of Migration to the North. This was 15 years before Orientalism but already a novel that works through those theories (2nd hand, I haven't read Said) in a plot of a man who migrates to the North like the colonials migrated to the South, causing much destruction - the sheer alienation of it all is such a great theme...shows 'globalisation' to be a paltry concept as places and environments form people in such drastic ways; they can't just be unified.otoh you can't go off on this too much - part of the novel's strength are its gaps of motivation: why does Mustafa really act in such horrendous way toward the women he meets?
Kenzaburo Oe - Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids. Set in Japan at the WWII. here a group of Japanese teens, from the reformatory, are made to feel outcasts by a group of villagers. Their dehumanisation is described in detail, their encunters with death, carcasses, decay is the most striking feauture - he doesn't spare the reader. Reading these side by side that theme of the environment driving the actions in unknowable ways comes through.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 September 2012 07:45 (twelve years ago)

i'm actually reading a book now about henry james and his pals in rye. A Ring of Conspirators: Henry James and His Literary Circle, 1895-1915 by miranda seymour.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago)

great book! the anecdote abt stephen crane stooping to stroke his dog and blood filling his mouth has always stuck with me

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago)

lamb house in rye is well worth a visit btw, especially on a sunny day when you can sit in the garden and pretend you are taking tea w/ the master

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago)

poor guy :( he was such a hero to me when i was younger. still is, kinda. even now, i'll up some random paperback crane anthology and look through it and i end up reading and before i know it i've read 20 pages.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago)

I love reading about any interaction between James and "dearest Edith."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 September 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago)

My dad died and he was into gangsters and the IRA, so I'm reading some of what he left behind to me, some of it is tedious, but I feel obligated to work through it. As a whole it's interesting stuff.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Saturday, 15 September 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago)

Balzac is so much fun! Lost Illusions was my Xmas reading eight or nine years ago.

just finished reading this a couple days ago. It's great! Balzac is one of my legit heroes, though I have to admit, I've never been more glad about being not-European than I did during some of this novel. But still it's great!

plan on reading a bunch of H James novels though not sure when I'm gonna get around to doing so...

^loves belaboured seething (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 17 September 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago)

Finally getting into John Einarson's book on Gene Clark. Had it for months and not read much of it, now 1/3 of the way through. Previously just had it as my travelling book but better to concentrate on it for longer than 15 minute bursts.

Gene's just left the Byrds cos stress was getting to him too much, taking 3 months to veg and then about to take off on a solo career.
Think I'll go back to it in a moment. damn cold is sapping my energy.

Before that was the Mick Wall bio of Metallica. Lars comes off as a bit of a dick, James slightly less so. & is Justice reviled cos Wall seems to take taht as a given almost.

Stevolende, Monday, 17 September 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago)

most sustained reading effort of late has been Spicer's After Lorca (in the wonderful My Vocabulary Did This To Me collection from few years back), three or four times straight through and a good deal more in chunks, sniffing around the footnotes, searching up the originals, etc etc

I haven't finished a novel, or book-length nonfiction, in some time. I blame the brilliance of summer, which seems finally to be fading.

He revs the language like a hypersonic superbike. (bernard snowy), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago)

From Rolling Fantasy, Science Fiction etc, Ward Fowler and I were discussing Richard Matheson (start w The Shrinking Man AKA Incredible etc and Legend AKA I Am Legend). Ward posted a link to an indelible Matheson story he first encountered at a tender age, then I read Whitehead's Zone One and posted this:
On to the next block: Ward mentions George A. Romero's mention of Matheson xpost:" i know romero admitted that matheson was the primary inspiration behind NOTLD." And I just finished (my first reading of) Colson Whitehead's Zone One, about removing zombies from Manhattan real estate values, to help civilization make a don't-call-it-a-comeback (we've been here all along). Romero deals with zombies' connection to consumer conditioning (here I'm thinking more of Dawn of the Dead than Night of)by swooping through and glancing off the advancing wall of socially significant others, as a tiny-bucks-hemorrhaging director and all zombie-removers had better. But Whitehead (who saw Dawn of at 13 and has had zombie dreams ever since) and his obsesso protagonist keep shuffling back: the zombie plague is a mutation, they're a leap but not a stretch from our sad, immortality-through-consumption-chasing pre-afterlives, I get it already. Still, Whitehead and his POV guy, nicknamed Mark Spitz, are monster movie consumers since childhood: they know just when to jump back into the fray-- Mark Spitz, the dedicated B-student survivalist, who thinks of himself as "sort of a template", also knows when to run like hell. Plus, gear-shifting is required: the zombies, referred to as skels here, are either the ravenous hordes, or the strangely appealing stragglers, who just hang out, entranced, apparently, by "the outline of a shadow of a phantom" of something that once meant so much to them, when anything did. A place where something happened, or a place that reminds them of that place, that face, etc. And all the survivors are stragglers in a way, in their own ways, not too similar to the other kind, the terrible trendies. Main prob, seems like, there's not enough gaps for the reader to fill, digesting what's just happended: Whitehead describes the action very well, then explicates (some of) the implications. Fortunately, he's got a charged, nuanced precision of vision for extending our world and swinging the wrecking ball. It's eerie, writhing, impacted, convulsive, splattery, elegiac, funny, grand, off-hand(sardonic 50s s.f., Catch-22, V. also come to mind). Lke persons of authoritah say here and in Night of the Living Dead: "They're all messed up."

dow, Monday, 17 September 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago)

Ha! I ws just going to give Matheson's The Shrinking Man a go but now I'm reading Henry James after all the talk here! Finished Daisy Miller -- this needed more words you know...just to keep the reflection on Daisy's nature going, simply to up the weirdness quota for my amusement.

Guess I'll get more words from him soon enough.

Onto The Europeans next.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago)

The plan is to read a few from him in roughly the following chronologial sequence (makes sense given that he simply got stranger in his style and so on). Picked a couple or three from each 'period':

The Europeans/Washington Square --> Portrait of a Lady --> Aspern Papers/What Maisie Knew --> In the Cage/The Golden Bowl

Then off for a cuppa in Lamb House.

Note that I said plan.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago)

that is a good plan, xyzzz, tho' is 'In the Cage' that late? 'Daisy Miller' is not a particular favourite of mine - i find the comedy a little broad, the ending a little neat - but of course it was one of James' few 'hits'. 'The Aspern Papers', otoh, is James at the absolute peak of his powers - there's a film of it, made by an old mucker of Jacques Rivette, that I have never seen.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago)

'In the Cage' is from 1898, a year after 'What Maisie Knew'. Thought it was from 1903 for some reason...I guess I'll need a good 'break' after 'Portrait...' with a few short ones.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago)

The Europeans/Washington Square combo is the peak of James' early powers.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago)

been meaning to read 'in the cage' for ages, can hardly believe it exists

thomp, Monday, 17 September 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago)

I love the green penguin modern classic editions of james, and the 'In the Cage' cover image is especially well chosen:

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1278472425l/400596.jpg

Ward Fowler, Monday, 17 September 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago)

need recommendation. good, fast read. maybe a little lurid. sci-fi, perhaps? just read this; loved it:

http://danielkraus.com/images/RottersPBTilt.png

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago)

!!!!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago)

it is a really good (and touching) book about necrophilia! and adolescence! and it is family appropriate-ish...

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago)

what did you think of the bullying subplot?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago)

i just saw a picture of a rotters tattoo yesterday -- someone tattooed "the root" (and an illustration of the root) into his ARMPIT

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago)

bullying theme so au courant, and not entirely resonant. i wonder if it would have been included five years ago?

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago)

my sources tell me that he started writing it in 2008, damn those looooong publishing schedules!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago)

LL is being coy with the facts

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago)

my source just walked in the door <-- fact!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago)

'harriet the spy' -- louise fitzhugh
'a supposedly fun thing...' -- DFW

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago)

Harriet the Spy and The Long Secret have been a greater influence on me as a writer than any other novels I can think of.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 September 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago)

in which case, bullying theme v. timely (xp).

also OMG ll, i just ... realized we have a non-ilx mutual friend

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago)

we do? who?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago)

initials mm at ala

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago)

i've never read it before! it's super-charming and funny. will have to grab 'the long secret' next.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago)

oh you and him, not you and me
weird!

he sometimes posts to ilx as the thnig but only to horror threads
anyway, i am so glad you enjoyed it! he has a new one coming out in march.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago)

this is all so funny! i'm trying to convince my dep't head to let me lead a MV book group in the spring.

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago)

!!!!! :D :D

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago)

That pb cover is phenom btw

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago)

i'm trying to convince my dep't head to let me lead a MV book group in the spring.
no way! that's great news. webmail me and i will elaborate.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago)

the long secret is so rad

JoeStork, Monday, 17 September 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago)

i'll send tomorrow after dep't meeting

cherry (soda), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago)

i sent you a message first :)

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago)

On a Barbara Pym jag at the moment. Just read:

A Glass of Blessing (fell slightly in love with the elegant, but slightly naive, heroine Wilmet and her eye for 50s London fashion)

Jane and Prudence (enjoyed it overall, but found the countryside part of the story less interesting. I like Pym's descriptions of London: the squares, the churches etc)

Also read George Melly's autobiography covering his 30s childhood, Scouse Mouse. I really think it's a kind of masterpiece of writing about childhood, but I'm frustrated because no one else I know has read it and I wanted to discuss it with a fellow fan.

Bob Six, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago)

I've been Pym-ing a bit recently, too. I think 'Less Than Angels' is probably my favourite.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 17 September 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago)

Rotters is fucking rad! I dont think enough can be said about how great a prose stylist D Kraus really is. That two-page prologue always blows my mind every time I think about it...

^loves belaboured seething (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 07:16 (twelve years ago)

have been in a reading slump, but am currently reading 'glass castle' by jeanette walls for book club...i was skeptical but am kind of hooked now.

rayuela, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago)

I've been avoiding that book for years, but it's on the list. Did get sucked into the sort-of prequel HALF-BROKE HORSES, which was p remarkable.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago)

Rotters is fucking rad!
:D

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago)

btw i am reading books right now, but kinda in the middle of three different ones

SATAN'S CHILDREN is particularly good. Lots of lurid sex-devil-cult-hysteria stuff to digest and think about, but some questionable/dated positions on PTSD have me a little concerned about where it's going.

also SPEAK LOW -- a book of letters between kurt weill and lotte lenya. this is a treasure and i am relishing every little bit.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago)

finished glass castle. i liked it, and thought she did a really good job of telling the story, both conveying the horrific things her parents did but also making them seem like parents. a lot of the attraction of the book is wanting to know what horrible things her parents do next.

started 'let the great world spin', but it's not really grabbing me so far. does it get better? i'm not that far in, the narrator's hanging with his brother in NY

rayuela, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago)

I've been reading Revelations, by Elaine Pagels, the author who gained prominence with The Gnostic Gospels. This book describes the origins of the Book of Revelations and its history, up to the time it was included in the canon of the New Testament. It is brief, clear and interesting.

Aimless, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago)

I tried that, my parents had it out while I was home in Aug. I couldn't focus on it at all, probably just bad timing on my part because Pagels is pretty great as a rule?

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago)

It does start slowly with a certain amount of repetition, tbh.

Aimless, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago)

Someone just gave me Cassandra at the Wedding and it's so sharp and clean and yet not sparse, I'm loving it and I never read "smart" fic at all.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago)

Bcz the Pagels was short, I finished and moved on to Temple of Texts, Wm Gass. After about 70 pp or so, what strikes me most is Gass's stylistic difference with most modern writers and his sameness from one essay to another, or even one paragraph to another.

He loves alliteration and self-confessedly loves lists, and he indulges in both quite often. He has a fine large vocabulary, which enables him to ring the changes on his ideas, through minor variances, and the effects he achieves in this way can be elegant. Except when he goes on and on until it wearies you, like one of those nineteenth century orchestral finales that pile one crescendo on another to the point where you want to strangle the composer, yelling "make it STOP!"

He does have excellent taste in authors and in books, though. So the subject matter is congenial to me.

Aimless, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago)

hopefully not as hyperbolic this time.

crack capitalism (john holloway). doing (good) vs. abstract labour (bad), a cookbook of sorts that goes for an anti-power + death by a thousand cuts approach to capitalism in daily life, for constant movement and against definition.

dialogues with marcel duchamp (pierre cabanne). glad he's not as cynical as I thought, liked the art as intellectual / research practice that must go beyond the visual and break with the past, how he spent years and years working on a single artwork, the need for mental space out of the spotlight, the slight contempt for those who 'don't get it' which is v funny. awesome little book.

reading literature and revolution (leon trotsky), which is the commander of the red army being super severe to non-october writers.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago)

Ooh - I've often thought Trotsky would be fun to read, but I've never got round to it.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago)

I'm not reading it (was trying to find his description of Greek food in I Want It Now) but We Are All Guilty by Kingsley Amis. i've never heard of this before - has anyone read it? it sounds fucking dire in entirely unsurprising ways:

From Kirkus Reviews
Like some other established adult authors, Amis (Lucky Jim; The Old Devils, Booker Prize, 1986) seems to imagine that his expertise qualifies him to write for young people; unfortunately, he has come up here with a simplistic, condescending book. Clive, a working-class punk, is in serious trouble after breaking into a warehouse: a confrontation with the night watchman has resulted in the man's disabling injury. Almost everyone concerned--Clive's mother, his social worker, a hip young vicar, even his angry, sanctimonious new stepfather and the victim--conspire to explain, forgive, and blame anyone but Clive. Only the gruff police sergeant, who evidently speaks for the author, opines that Clive deserves to be punished. There's a nugget of truth here: as Clive senses, the misplaced sympathy does deprive him of the dignity of taking responsibility for his own actions. But Amis seems as oblivious to the real roots of Clive's antisocial behavior as his adult characters are; he even gives Clive the (unlikely) option of easily finding a job, and depicts him as bored with the girls he hangs out with. It all smells of the establishment believing that the lower classes would be all right if they'd just shape up. For a far more perceptive look at Britain's underclass, try Gillian Cross's Wolf (1991); unlike Amis's book, it has vibrantly individual characters and a compelling plot. (Fiction. 12-16) -- Copyright ©1992, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.

http://www.amazon.com/Are-All-Guilty-Kingsley-Amis/dp/0670842680

Fizzles, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago)

That reminds me of that Capital book by John Lanchester that you read a bit of then started a thread before reading a bit more and writing down some observations that you posted to the thread and we all laughed. Did you ever finish that?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago)

not nominated for the booker how did that happen

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 September 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago)

I finished the Hillsborough Report. It got a bit numbing towards the end tbh, less because of the horror than because it's been frontloaded; so you get the narrative of the day, the history of shoddy organisation at the ground, the shambolic organisation, and then eyewitness details, all of which are utterly compelling; and then a lot of procedure around the Taylor Report and the coroner's inquests, which aren't.

Read the first half and weep; for the rest, it's probably enough to know that the emergency response has never been properly investigated, and that the police cover-up is a result of their approaching the various proceedings as adversarial rather than investigative, and the hostile media response flowed from their briefing accordingly.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago)

I'm going to finish it. I got extraordinarily enraged by a fact, which, unlike most of my complaints, was not microscopically stylistic, but representative of a grander failing that became increasingly apparent the further I read. This was the realisation that he was drawing the book to a close without anything having happened. The effect was, in my head, like having a carefully orchestrated build-up to a local outdoor event, only to see, just as your curiosity had reached a seasonable pitch, that men were unscrewing the poles of the marquee, the sound system was being disabled, and people were generally filtering home. i will elaborate less, or possibly more, runically in the actual thread, when I finish the fucker, for finish it I fucking will.

nakhchivan - i thought a bit about this in idle speculation while going down escalators, that sort of thing. on the one hand i was pleased - it suggested that when things got serious (the booker) the elite of the london lit set (whoever the fuck the booker judges were) knew that, beyond any reviews, that it was the book was not good in fairly obvious ways. Good - the bullshit can only go so far. There is an objectivity. But the main emotion was disappointment: its nomination wd have been very amusing, and have suggested to me a number of alternative wild scenarious:

1) I was wrong, and everyone else's wrongness was right (clearly my rightness wd not have been threatened by this, just it would have been interesting)
2) the congeries of the london lit elite was more tightly bound than the 'Ndrangheta in preserving its whatever.
3) they didn't actually know the fuck
3)+1)+2) They didn't actually know because the nature of their association meant that anything outside their association was inherently impossible to judge or just plain bad.
4) literary standards are pure conspiracy - the book is good, because the people who say it is good are the people who decide what is good. lit relativism gone mad, as the cab driver said to me the other night.
5) the booker and indeed all literature in the modern paper/award/big city form is a meaningless con.

all of these scenarios, which, clearly, are not exclusive but shade into different conceptual areas, delighted me.

so yeah, sick as a parrot, Brian (to quote Kingsley Amis' booker winning speech).

er, definite xpost.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago)

definitely at least a candidate for the ilx best post longlist i think there

human centipede hz (thomp), Friday, 21 September 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago)

Are those glossy wrappers something you've added, or are they ex-library, or is this something that's common on books in the US?
Euh, that is one badass selection -- just the jazzbooks alone!

Øystein, Saturday, 22 September 2012 08:25 (twelve years ago)

The volume of "the frightening diary of Susan Gregory's year as the only white girl in an all-black high school" looks like something else ...

Øystein, Saturday, 22 September 2012 08:26 (twelve years ago)

OK, I thought I knew a lot about Kingsley Amis and had read all his books, even his James Bond novel, but I had no idea that existed!

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Saturday, 22 September 2012 08:30 (twelve years ago)

"Are those glossy wrappers something you've added, or are they ex-library, or is this something that's common on books in the US?"

i didn't add them but i should do that with some of my books. a lot of these used to belong to a store that no longer exists. the better used books stores here add them to nice books. i love when they do. i am not a better used book store. i am a used record store with a small hand-picked selection of books. (people actually do come in and tell me how great my selection is and i get embarrassed because i don't work at it and - sad to say - books sre kind of an afterthought. i keep the shelves full. but the bulk of my income comes from records.) but i don't put just anything on the shelves. i want interesting/unusual and not easily found stuff for the store. there is a copy of the corrections i need to throw in the free pile. that book is everywhere. thrift stores have multiple copies around here. there is a long list of popular lit fic that i won't sell because its sooooooo everywhere and nobody buys it. sorry, margaret atwood! (did everyone in the state of massachusetts get a copy of the robber bride for christmas in 1993?)

scott seward, Saturday, 22 September 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago)

i used to volunteer at the library when i was in middle school and all they would let us do is put those plastic covers on the books
i am REALLY GOOD AT IT now

fold tape tape fold tape tape
slide onto the cover
secure with tape
next

also, that is an amazing book haul
will you share 1 of the 1001 lewdest limericks?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Saturday, 22 September 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago)

sure! let me find one.

scott seward, Saturday, 22 September 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago)

There was a young girl of Aberystwyth
Who took grain to the mill to get grist with.
The miller's son, Jack,
Laid her flat on her back,
And united the organs they pissed with.

scott seward, Saturday, 22 September 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago)

Not bad! I like the meter of these two lines.

There was a young girl of Aberystwyth
Who took grain to the mill to get grist with.

And it's a pretty good limerick aside from wyth/with/with

And created the ultimate wrist myth doesn't really have the same ring though I guess.

I'd probably buy that book if I saw it at a thrift store. It'd make a nice companion to 2000 Insults for All Occasions.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Saturday, 22 September 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago)

this is a good one:

Said a Palestine pilgrim named Wadham
"For religion I don't give a goddem!
I've frequently peed in
The Garden of Eden,
And buggered my guide when in Sodom."

scott seward, Saturday, 22 September 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago)

:D more plz

free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Saturday, 22 September 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago)

Had jury duty last week, read and loved Kleinzeit by Russell Hoban.

Just started the newly translated Tove Jansson collection, Art in Nature.

JoeStork, Saturday, 22 September 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago)

Been on a bit of an ilb recommendations blitz. Read most of and enjoyed Pulphead - thanks Scott.

Read Antwerp by Bolaño, which, given its brevity, I can say I liked to a degree, but not excessively.

Read Atomised by Houellebecq while in the south of France. And while apocalypses of the French bourgeoisie are ten a penny over the past decade, esp in film, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I think the tone of sardonic dissection, and the depiction of the civilised animal was well achieved. In his sense the scientific elements were a rhetorical technique only. in a wider sense I guess I'd class this as a form of science fiction, perhaps SF's satirical strain; it uses a fictional scientific development as a prism to look at the current world via the elements (quantum mechanics + biology) that will constitute that development. Love and religion and the nature of human have an affectless chill at their hearts in the book. It is a book about the sensuality of decaying cells. very enjoyable. Reactionary? Yes in its internal content, but a more difficult call in terms of it being a novel. Probably.

that said, I picked up Céline's North directly after - a book I have read before and so knew what to expect - and that's off-the-scale. exuberant misanthropy.

was trying to decide whether to "do" The Semantic Tradition from Kant to Carnap: To the Vienna Station by Coffa, Braudel's The Structures of Everyday Life, bot mentioned recently on ILB. Went for the former, partly because the Braudel is ludicrously addictive in a skimming fashion, but in a sense because of that, felt unreadable for me at the moment. It's the supreme toilet book.

What I know about Kant and post-Kantian philosophy is slowly toiling into painful action at the moment. How equal it is to the task remains to be seen.

Oh and also Humphrey Jennings' Pandæmonium - superb.

And of course downloaded Puttenham's Art of Poesie to my kindle.

Fizzles, Sunday, 23 September 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago)

let's do coffa as the ilb book club. or possibly puttenham.

human centipede hz (thomp), Sunday, 23 September 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago)

We haven't finished the cantos

woof, Sunday, 23 September 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago)

finish the cantos

Fizzles, Sunday, 23 September 2012 10:45 (twelve years ago)

release the bats

human centipede hz (thomp), Sunday, 23 September 2012 11:07 (twelve years ago)

Must get to North at some point

Washington Square was enjoyable. Ms Penniman was quite funny but in the mood I'm in i'd rather just spend more time with Catherine the spinster. Strange feeling of a novel finished at a point when it could've been just beginning.

Onto Portrait of a Lady..

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago)

Kant had explained that all analytic judgments are grounded on a single principle, what he sometimes called the "principle of analytic judgments"

nods wisely. strokes chin.

Fizzles, Sunday, 23 September 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago)

Thanks Scott; curiously enough, right after posting that, I read Michael Dirda's latest essay in The American Scholar, where he mentions just those bindings.
Sounds like you've got a good store -- god knows there are enough stores full of yesteryear's best-sellers and book-of-the-month picks -- though I'll admit to enjoying trawling those stores in hope of the occasional surprise (yesterday: a Ballantine paperback of Lord Dunsany's _The King of Elfland's Daughter_ Unicorn on the cover and everything!)

I'm reading Theodore Weesner's _The Car Thief_, about some damn runt of a teenager with a drunkardish single dad & teen angst (whatchamacallit? Alienation? Pah) But -- what on earth? -- it's really good! Our man's spent some time in juvie now, hanging with some sassy black kids & learning the pleasures of hard work & reading! (Well, sorta kinda sorta -- why am I trying to describe the book as if it's terrible? Pøh)
Also Wodehouse's short story collection _Lord Emsworth and Others_ of which nothing needs to be said, I expect. Airguns and ninnyhammers and pigs. I love those introductions where a buncha fellows are sitting at the pub telling stories, and everyone's described by their drinks. "Said a whiskey and splash" and so forth. _Mulliner Nights_ was full of those too, as I recall it.
Marilynne Robinson's essay collection _As a Child I Read Books_ is a good deal heavier than I expected from the title -- lotsa religion & politics. Good though! Still don't think I'll go near her _Absence of Mind_.
Been picking at Saki's collected stories for well over a year now. Really wish I'd marked my favorites in the index, as there's quite a lot of ho-hum stories. Should've gone for a selection, I guess.

Øystein, Sunday, 23 September 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago)

skot's pix makin me wish I lived in Massachusetts

did drake invent yolo (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 September 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago)

I'm having a go at DeLillo's Running Dog. Outstanding beginning - the incident in derelict industralia then cut to the filthy antique pornographic gallery - so I have high hopes after The Names, which was bizarrely banal notwithstanding its themes.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 24 September 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago)

i like the first third of the names a lot. running dog is next after i finish 'amazons'.

human centipede hz (thomp), Monday, 24 September 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago)

I finished 100 Years of Solitude. Definitely one of the best examples of magic realism that I've read. Maybe could have been a bit shorter, but worth reading in its entirety. Its dream-like logic and colorful imagery may have inspired lots of twee drivel, but it seems rather tough-minded in its essence.

o. nate, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago)

David 's Partisan, a thin but entertaining account of the Partisan Review intellectuals (Mary McCarthy, Lowell, Rahv, the Trillings) from their postwar peak to how the sixties and neocons treated them.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago)

*David Laskin, rather

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago)

Airguns and ninnyhammers and pigs

Is that the story where everyone who picks up the airgun has an uncontrollable urge to shoot somebody? I love that story.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago)

i tried to remember what actually happened in the names. it was surprisingly difficult!

human centipede hz (thomp), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago)

Now reading Balzac's A Harlot High and Low

did drake invent yolo (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago)

david foster wallace and bulgakov. i feel like i can't be seen in public.

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago)

So it is, James: "The Crime Wave at Blandings". Just reread parts, looking for a choice quote, but i ended up wanting to type out sections the length of a couple of pages, so nevermind. (Tbh, I censored myself in that post. I first wrote "bimbos", but slid in ninnyhammers when I realized it could be taken the wrong way by those who hasn't read Plum. What a rube)
Read _84 Charing Cross Road_ last night, which was quite charming, even affecting. Went straight on to the sequel _The Duchess of Bloomsbury Street_, which is thankfully quite different, and rather enjoyable as ewll.

Øystein, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago)

Now reading Balzac's A Harlot High and Low

so much fun!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago)

weirdest poem i read today:

THE CUSSED DAMOZEL

The Cussed Damozel cut loose
About half-past seven
Prepared to do as wild a deed
As any under heaven.
Oil-soaked rags were in her hands,
And the bombs in her grip were seven.

She cried, "We'll blow this mansion up
Where Lloyd and George do dwell!"
"Wow!" cried her fellow-suffs, whose names
Were sweet as caramel-
Millicent, Pansy, Rosalys,
Phyllis and Christabel.

scott seward, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago)

Sounds Edwardian to me. Belloc?

Aimless, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago)

a totally famous person who is almost completely forgotten:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Leston_Taylor

scott seward, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago)

thomas hobbes - leviathan
george herbert - poems

clouds, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago)

and truly and honestly a tip of the hat to wikipedia in this case cuz its rare to see such a well-written and comprehensive post on someone like this.

you just don't get inside baseball roycrofter parodies like this anymore:

The Bilioustine: A Periodical of Knock; published by William S. Lord under the name “the Boy Grafters, at East Aurora, Illinois.” (1901) – The work parodied Elbert Green Hubbard’s Philistine: A Periodical of Protest independently published by his Roycrofters press of East Aurora, New York. Hubbard’s magazine was itself a collection of political satire and whimsy, and sold bound in brown butcher paper because the “meat” was inside." As editor, Taylor referred to himself as Fra McGinnis, a parody on another Hubbard publication, The Fra. The material from Taylor’s Bilioustine originally appeared in the “Line,” and was later published in booklet form. The booklets were also bound in bound in brown paper and twine after Hubbard’s Philistine, and they sold at various stores and markets throughout Chicago, Denver, and Buffalo.

scott seward, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago)

I've started Freeman Dyson's memoir Disturbing the Universe. Pretty interesting so far. He writes very well for a scientist.

o. nate, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago)

At least I was right about the Edwardian part. T'was written in 1913.

Aimless, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago)

btw, last night I began my first-ever PK Dick novel: The Man in the High Castle. It is embedded within a Library of America volume with three other novels of his, so I can forge on if I like this one. So far, it has a sort of a plot, and some almost-lifelike characters doing a few conceptually interesting things in a counter-factual setting. It's not setting my mind on fire or anything like that, but 'twill do for now.

Aimless, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago)

David 's Partisan, a thin but entertaining account of the Partisan Review intellectuals (Mary McCarthy, Lowell, Rahv, the Trillings) from their postwar peak to how the sixties and neocons treated them.

― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, September 24, 2012 5:35 PM (Yesterday)

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/l/laskin-partisans.html

stumbled on this while googling for the book you mentioned

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago)

yep!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago)

'taking tiger mountain (up the butt)'? charming.

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago)

you're welcome!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago)

here come the warm jets

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago)

of urine

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago)

Ambient 4: On Hands and Knees

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago)

Bums Between the Bells

cwkiii, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago)

Read _84 Charing Cross Road_ last night, which was quite charming, even affecting

I remember enjoying this, even though hanff goes on about how she doesn't like fiction. And then she reads some Austen and is all 'Wow, fiction is really good!', and I'm all 'Duh!'

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago)

no pussyfooting

xp

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago)

David 's Partisan, a thin but entertaining account of the Partisan Review intellectuals (Mary McCarthy, Lowell, Rahv, the Trillings) from their postwar peak to how the sixties and neocons treated them.

They're the American Bloomsbury.

alimosina, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago)

that's one of those 'wagner is the puccini of music' recommendations

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago)

Yeah. To be fair, maybe the book's OK.

alimosina, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago)

i think i've read 84 charing cross road at least ten or twelve times (not that it takes long to read). and seen the movie ten times. i'm an old lady like that. i like that book the way the japanese love anne of green gables.

scott seward, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago)

new batch of books -
Morton Feldman - Give My Regards to Eighth Street
Mikhail Bulgakov - The Master and Margarita
Ursula K. Le Guin - The Left Hand of Darkness
J.G. Ballard - The Complete Stories

probably will start with good ol' morty mort!

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago)

love feldman's essays — he writes mostly about art and poetry and almost nothing about music

clouds, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago)

The Left Hand of Darkness is an eerie, wondrous novel.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago)

They're the American Bloomsbury.

no Forster or Woolf though. It's funny how only Stafford's The Mountain Goat has experienced anything like a revival. Despite their considerable collective intelligence their novels and poetry are ehhhh. They remain useful, undervalued critics though. When I finished my graduate thesis a few years ago my director tried to steer me away from citing Trilling and McCarthy ("They're not academics, they're belle lettrists" or something, to which I said, "Thank god!").

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago)

Mountain Lion?

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago)

Still reading that Richard Brautigan biography, which is wonderful but so long. Interrupted by library requests coming in (I have already polished those off) - A Wilderness of Error by Errol Morris and a pretty decent memoir of pre-gentrification Williamsburg, the Last Bohemia. Any interest in crime: read Morris. It really was swell. And now I have money. Amisæs Money that is. Sorry but my apostrophe turned into an æ Canæt fix it. Oh, now I see that I was using the Norwegian keyboard.

Silvercigarette, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago)

Mountain Lion?

blame me for listening to the new Mountain Goats at the same time.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago)

no Forster or Woolf though.

Nobody like that. Maybe The Group was their true literary legacy.

"They're not academics, they're belle lettrists" or something, to which I said, "Thank god!"

Amen to that. NYRB has published some Trilling this year, and I've seen a recent book, Why Trilling Matters.

To think Trilling's designated heir was Norman "World War IV" Podhoretz.

alimosina, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago)

No Forster or Woolf, but beyond the spotlight of that chapter, PR did publish Bellow, Lowell, Schwartz, othera whose best work far surpassed The Group. The often pathetic-even-then Pod was Trilling's designated heir? Trilling's prefaces often make me wish I could have taken one of his course although Cynthnia Ozick remembered his classroom presence as grey. All grey (can't say "very", it was too grey for such an extreme word). I like his fiction:
The Middle of the Journey (1947)One of the main characters is based on Whittaker Chambers, whom Trilling knew way before the Golden Age of McCarthy, and this was published at the dawn of that era. Trilling was always struck by Chambers' consecrated immersion in his own drama, and the other main character, who seems like the viewpoint guy in all T.'s stories, is--well, let's say they're not polar opposites.
Of This Time, of That Place and Other Stories (1979, published posthumously). Title story based on having Allen Ginsberg and another guy, whose name I forget, in the same Columbia class (the other guy was just as spacey but oh so "normal") Other good stores too.
The Journey Abandoned: The Unfinished Novel (2008) (published posthumously, edited by Geraldine Murphy)Haven't read this, but read favorable reviews.

Non

dow, Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago)

Sorry about the typos, too much caffeine as usual.

dow, Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago)

I've twice tried to finish The Middle of the Journey.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago)

What would you say is the main problem? The suggestion of a Man From Mars POV at times?

dow, Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago)

Energy? Narrative drive?

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago)

I have a similar problem with Jarrell's poetry.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago)

I wouldn't have thought of those two writers as having anything in common, good or bad. H'-m-m...

dow, Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago)

Only that they're magnificent as critics and just okay in fiction and poetry.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago)

(suddenly realizes doesn't know shit about Jarrett's criticism, unless "Read at whim!" counts). Where should I begin?

dow, Friday, 28 September 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago)

I finished P.K. Dick's Man in the High Castle last night. The lack of a truly coherent plot didn't hurt it, but actually helped, since any attempt to wrap up all those subplots and corral all those startled hares could only have ended in tears.

So, having enjoyed the first of the four novels in the anthology, I moved directly to The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, which starts right away parading around a naked young lady with nipples "like pink pearls", and a main character comically named Leo Bulero (which proves Dick had read Tristam Shandy, but otherwise serves no further discernable purpose). This was not a good way to catch my interest and allegience. This story had better pick itself up and stand upright pretty quickly or I will find a pretty little ditch to dump it in.

Aimless, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago)

it's one of the good ones

cherry (soda), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago)

Okay, re xpost Jarrell's criticism, think I'll try Poetry and The Age and No Other Book: Collected Essays (from poetry to sports cars).

dow, Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago)

I need to read Three Stigmata again; I had a major fundamental question about what went on

alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago)

i think it's pretty much self-contradictory

'eldritch' is a really severely broken novel i think? might be worth noting that it's a weird and counter-intuitive expansion of a short story. anyway i am enjoying aimless-reads-philip-dick and wish it to continue

paradiastole, or the currifauel, otherwise called (thomp), Saturday, 29 September 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago)

OK that strikes a chord. I'm planning after Harlot to go on a PKD binge & read the last ten novels he ever wrote (except for Nick and the Glimmung, which was a kid's novel set in the Galactic Pot Healer universe, I think?)

alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 29 September 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago)

Finished Portrait of a Lady this morning. Absolutely loved the arc of Isabel's journey - glad I read it from Washington Square, as it provides some pay-off to see how James builds on many of his character types established then. The themes of innocence lost and the unbearable weight of money on relationships provides so much tragedy and loneliness on all of his cast -- but James writes with such a forensic eye and calculated cool that you feel it is simply there and everyday, inescapable.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 September 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago)

We, the book-bedizzened members of ILB, have lived half a year with this thread as our Polaris. It has now surpassed its 900th-post birthday and is neck and neck with Methuselah. It seems to be time for a new ILB WAYR thread. Ergo... (waves hand)... Behold! We start afresh.

Aimless, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago)


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