i can think of tons of stories i love but i'm struggling to think of short story books i enjoyed all the way through. my top 5 collections:
katherine mansfield -- the garden partychekhov -- forty storiesmccullers -- ballad of the sad cafesalinger -- nine storiesmary gaitskill -- bad behavior
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago)
Allen Barnett - "The Body And Its Dangers"Dennis Cooper - "Closer"
― goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago)
Drown - Junot DiazLoveship, Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Marriage - Alice MunroThe Drowned World - JG BallardMen Without Women - Ernest HemingwayTrainspotting - Irvine Welsh
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago)
joyce - dublinerskrzhizhonovsky - memories of the future (ilx recommendation!)borges - labyrinthsthe nabokov brick (i have the one with the dumb glittery butterfly cover like a less vivacious lisa frank)any wodehouse collection
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago)
what is 'the nabokov brick'?
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago)
krzhizhonovsky - memories of the future (ilx recommendation!)
this is really good but c'mon
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/Stories-Vladimir-Nabokov/dp/0679729976
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago)
I have to think abt this for a while but I have thoughts on this, I was really stoned a few days ago w/ some friends and one was like "I like short stories......they're like.....not long"
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago)
xp yeah that. it isn't really right to list, maybe, since it's huge and i don't like everything in it, but it's the only format i've read his stories in.
i am the krzhizhonovsky book's target market; i don't know what to tell you.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago)
xp wow that's a lot of stories. putting it on my christmas list!
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago)
the k-zhizh one where the guy spreads the expanding cream on the baseboards of his tiny apartment and the walls end up fleeing from him until he's left in the center of an endless void. dropping his coat in his scramble to escape and it sliding away from him across the expanding floor into the dark.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago)
Raymond Carver - Will You Please Be Quiet Please?Flannery O'Conner - The Collected StoriesAnton Chekhov - 40 StoriesHaruki Murakami - The Elephant VanishesWilliam Faulkner - The Portable FaulknerSherwood Anderson - Winesburg, OHKatherine Anne Porter - Pale Horse, Pale Rider
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago)
(ha those last 2 probably don't count...)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago)
katherine mansfield - the garden partythom jones - cold snapsherwood anderson - winesburg ohiohermann hesse - strange news from another staralbert camus - exile and the kingdom
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago)
also collected gogol, collected bellow, maybe the illustrated man. i just checked and all the sherlock holmes stories i'm really fond of are irritatingly spread across the different collections.
i have that o'conner book; really should read more from it.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago)
Flaubert - Three TalesJoyce - DublinersBorges - Ficciones Chekhov - StoriesKatherine Ann Porter - Collected StoriesF. Scot Fitzgerald - Stories OfJohn Cheever - StoriesAlice Munro - Hateship Friendship...
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago)
i was really close to adding FSF but i just haven't found a collection that works consistently for me. i read 'bernice bobs her hair' a few months ago and it's almost perfect but still, a couple really minor stories.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 November 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago)
Taps at Reveille is the most consistent but if you want the canon material plus boilerplate stuff ("The Bridal Party") the '89 collection compiled by hagiographer Brucoli is the most thorough.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago)
william gibson - burning chrome
― 乒乓, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago)
i have the brucoli collection and yeah bernice/the offshore pirate/mayday/diamond as big as the ritz (dgaf)/rags martin-jones and the pr--- of wa--- (tried to make this into a movie once)/other stuff are all great but didn't list it cuz so much chaff.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago)
^ yes xp to dan
Jesus' son - dennis johnson
Open secrets - Alice munro
Cathedral - raymond carver
― just1n3, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago)
can't believe Kafka wasnt mentioned yet
― nostormo, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago)
also:Bruno Schultz - Street of CrocodilesCortazar - blow up and other stories
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― nostormo, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago)
Bradbury - October CountryWallace - Brief Interviews With Hideous MenKing - Night ShiftCoen - Gates Of EdenHandey - What I'd Say To The Martians
Honorable mention to Dick and Lovecraft and Howard's Conan stories, many of which I love but none of which have any canonical collections.
― Tangy Flavor Nuggets™ (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 November 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago)
definitely Kafka and HemmingwayAlice Monro anything reallyi really liked Raymond Carver's Where I'm Calling From and Will You Please Be Quiet Please? when i was younger but haven't really revisited in yearsi've been reading Lorrie Moore's Birds of North America, which is great but i can really only read one or two stories at a timewhich reminds me a bit of Amy Hempel - i have the Collected Stories bookothers that i need to try to remember... what's popping into my head instead are books of short non-fiction stuff like Didion's Slouching Towards Bethlehem, Ondaatje's Running in the Family, Down and Out in Paris and London, etc
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 30 November 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago)
These two are firmly ensconced in my favourites of all time:
Borges - LabyrinthsBSJ - Aren't You Rather Young to Be Writing Your Memoirs?
I think most of the rest of mine are made up by yr classic short-story writers (Saki, Poe, etc) and old-school horror compendiums. Oh, the Blanchot reader contains some great stuff but shouldn't really count here, I guess.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago)
Oh, I also really liked Primo Levi's The Sixth Day and Other Tales, but I haven't read it since my teens.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago)
i really want to read Ursula Le Guin collection The Unreal and the Real
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 30 November 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago)
J.D. Salinger - Nine StoriesDenis Johnson - Jesus' SonBruno Schulz - The Street of CrocodilesRaymond Carver - CathedralBreece D'J Pancake - The Stories of Breece D'J Pancake
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Saturday, 1 December 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago)
wish i read more short stories but fourthing nine stories
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Saturday, 1 December 2012 05:50 (twelve years ago)
60 Stories -- Doanld BarthelmeStrangers Things Happen -- Kelly LinkDrown -- Junot DiazJesus' Son -- Denis Johnson
Maybes:Venus Drive -- Sam LipsyteThe Things They Carried -- Tim O'Brien something by George Saunders (maybe Civilwarland ...)maybe Carver too, but haven't re-read him in far too long
― Romeo Jones, Sunday, 2 December 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago)
and how could I forget?:A Good Man is Hard to Find -- O'Connor
― Romeo Jones, Sunday, 2 December 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago)
Everything's in storage, but off the top of my head
Beckett - More Pricks Than KicksBorges - LabyrinthsJoyce - DublinersBarth - Lost In The FunhouseAkutagawa - Rashomon
Cosign on Honorable mention to Dick and Lovecraft [...] many of which I love but none of which have any canonical collections.Which is the Mishima collection w/"Patriotism"? Or was it more stand-alone? Maybe Vollmann, if The Rainbow Stories counts? Prob not, but Thirteen Stories... wld do. Twain/Melville should be represented too, probably.
― etc, Sunday, 2 December 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago)
Labyrinths, Dubliners, Donald Barthelme's City Life, Thomas Bernhard's The Voice Imitator (if it counts)... tbh I haven't been a serious reader of short stories for years
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Monday, 3 December 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago)
probably throw some Asimov in there just to round it out to five, idk
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Monday, 3 December 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago)
I want to reread Flaubert's "A Simple Heart" tonight but can't speak for the consequences.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago)
oh just go ahead and cry yr snotty tears
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Monday, 3 December 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago)
chekhov - storiesjames joyce - dublinershemingway - collected cheever - collected borges - ficciones
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 3 December 2012 11:00 (twelve years ago)
Haven't read enough collections to do an interesting top 5, but I agree with the Joyce & Borges love.
― abanana, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago)
borges - ficcioneskafka - complete storiessamuel r. delany - aye, and gomorrah lydia davis - the collected storieswilliam gibson - burning chrome
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago)
maybe.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago)
haha if either of you read this because of stuff i posted i legit feel way better about the years of my life ive wasted posting to this msg board
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago)
other than trying to make some torturous case for like the robert silverberg edited 'legends' collection i cant really think of anything that hasnt been mentioned other than maybe lydia davis collected stories, i guess 'mirgorod' idk
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago)
borges is like my no. 1 'need to read' guy that i've never read even a word of. kind of embarrassed about that.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago)
Charles Baxter - A Relative StrangerTim O'Brien - The Things They CarriedLydia Davis - Break It DownJoyce Carol Oates - The AssignationFaulkner - Go Down, MosesHemingway - Collected
(Off top of head, couldn't cut one for five.)
― 2 Chain Pizzas (to go) (Eazy), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:29 (twelve years ago)
i'll have to think of some faves. there are so many short story writers i love. or just writers who wrote some of my favorite short stories. katherine anne porter collection was a big one for me. it made me realize there was a world of writers i didn't know about when i was younger. katherine mansfield too. stephen crane was huge for me too once i got beyond the required school reading of open boat/red badge. he's still one of my favorite writers. and there are all kinds of people i love who aren't exactly canon or whatever. ben hecht, ring lardner, people like that. the last bombshell for me was the collected richard yates. and i thought i was too old for ameri-lit short story bombshells. but it made me rethink how i felt about carver who i still love. and when i read my current faves munro and moore i think of those early ann beattie and oates story collections i loved. but five, huh? i dunno, tolstoy would be on there. and poe. and de maupassant. maybe. more recent stuff too though. the hungry girls and other stories by patricia eakins was a whopper. joy williams - breaking and entering. that book alone rocked my world. mary gaitskill's first collection was awesome but i haven't read it since the 80's. i love john o'hara to death. especially those early stories. faulkner kinda blows most people away too. flannery and carson and eudora. i don't think there is really anyone right now who can hit you upside the head like flannery. sarah orne jewett kills me too. the country of the pointed firs might make my top five. i love patricia highsmith's later fucked up stories. they are half angela carter and half...i don't know what. Little Tales of Misogyny is a hoot. you could read that and the hungry girls and a carter collection in a row for some seriously grim fairy tales. hubert selby's one book of short stories is amazing. i could pick books by thom jones and barry hannah too. love those guys. that pancake collection that someone mentioned was a fine thing. and jesus' son might be one of the best of the last 20 years. kentucky straight by chris offutt is essential. henry james and saul bellow. i better stop...sherman alexie...i love kate chopin's southern stuff. i guess winesburg has to make any list. so great. hasn't lost a step. ambrose bierce. robert bloch. ray bradbury. shirley jackson is a hero a mine. any of her collections. kafka. stephen king. jack london is still the bomb. shiloh by bobbie ann mason is essential. theodore sturgeon. would never stop with the sci-fi. and there are very few straight literary writers today who can write anything even approaching the awesomeness of the best sci-fi out there. mark twain. edith wharton. tobias wolff! in the garden of the north american martyrs is massive. stanley elkin's criers and kibitzers kibitzers and criers one of my faves too. and malamud's the magic barrel. collected leonard michaels is essential. everyone has to read that. likewise the collected bruce jay friedman. flaubert and the other big time russians are kind of a no-brainer i guess. cheever another no brainer. mavis gallant too. and pritchett. james purdy short fiction essential. same with isak dinesen. i love muriel spark's short stories. but i would. you might enjoy an old irwin shaw collection. whoever you are. fun stuff. edna o'brien!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago)
That's a great list. I'd cosign lots of those. It's hard to narrow the list to five. I'm actually reading a couple of story collections right now, by Steven Millhauser and Deborah Eisenberg, which I'm enjoying a lot, but top 5 of all time? I don't know. I guess I'd have to go by my personal reading history, which may have been influenced by things I happened to encounter at the right time. In some cases, especially when things have been anthologized multiple times, it's hard to remember the exact title of the collection I encountered, but some of the big names for me are: Ray Bradbury, H.G. Wells, H.P. Lovecraft, Jack London, Roald Dahl, and John O'Hara.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago)
think i have most of the kafka ones in another collection. brilliant. the coal-scuttle rider really got me.
also like carver's "what we talk about when we talk about love" - generally i need to dive into some of the recommendations upthread as i have only got into short stories in the last couple of years, as opposed to novels.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago)
I'm kind of a genre dork, so I dunno if any of these really measure up with that's been suggested already.
- Hardboiled: An Anthology of American Crime Stories by Bill Pronzini & Jack Adrian is one of my favorite hard-boiled short story collections. Lots of great authors, known and unknown, I still circle back to it every year or two and find a new author to introduce myself to. - though I've fallen off the bandwagon with him considerably, I'll still rep for Neil Gaiman's Smoke And Mirrors short story collection.- The Best of Joe R Lansdale is a goodun'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago)
your favorites are your favorite! doesn't matter if they measure up to anything. genre people is a long list too. richard matheson!
plus, like i said above, the list of great SF short fiction writers is endless. so much richness.
also, i forgot e.f. benson. who wrote all kinds of great short fiction.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago)
yeah there's a couple of specific sci-fi collections rattling round my head that I can't quite pin down, ragh.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago)
so many people i need to read too. never read much algernon blackwood. and i've been meaning to read some elizabeth gaskell. and m.r. james.
oh, and i forgot von Kleist! totally essential. everyone needs a collected stories by him. his stories will knock your socks off. they knocked kafka's socks off and that's saying something.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago)
here's a neat list of contemporary stuff. i sometimes have a problem with post-carver writing workshop type stuff and i think people like bloom and hempel and others like them fall into this category for me. though i think they are fine writers and all that.
http://may-on-the-short-story.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-100-favorite-short-story-collections.html
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago)
Haven't seen these mentioned yet:
Dangerous Visions - Harlan EllisonThe Granta Book of the American Short Story - Richard Ford (includes 'A Distant Episode' by Paul Bowles, one of my absolute faves)An International Episode - Henry James
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago)
also gotta give props to harold brodkey's Stories in an Almost Classical Mode. that book fucked with my head in so many ways. "His Son, in His Arms, in Light, Aloft" is a killer. lots of killer in that thing. if you read it find a strong chair to sit in.
also a shout-out to scott bradfield a demented sorta-genius like my beloved joy williams. they both got so fierce and somewhat irrational and misanthropic but i'm with them all the way and they invigorate me with punk rock fire. (read Dream of The Wolf by Bradfield and if you like that one go to town on the rest cuz it just gets weirder from there.)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago)
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I did and I have to say this is like the best book I've read that you've rec'd
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago)
oh, and i forgot von Kleist! totally essential. everyone needs a collected stories by him. his stories will knock your socks off. they knocked kafka's socks off and that's saying something.― scott seward, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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ya I forgot him too, it was eating away at me later, that's like half the reason I came back here
also glad to see some lydia davis love, I thought about putting her recent collected stories on my list, but my first exposure to her was this year (+ I think she's kinda 'trendy'?) so I second-guessed it right offa there
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago)
awesome list, scott! great lists all around really. i've been focusing a lot on poetry lately but now i just want to read short stories all the time!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago)
Woah, thanks for the list upthread, Scott! Several I haven't read there. I really need to stop making lists and read some of these collections like I did in my early 20s. I'm almost fitting Vonnegut's theory that most enthusiasm for fiction is around that age and usually drops off rapidly thereafter. I keep meaning to read McCullers and Faulkner but never get around to it. I read some of Flannery's short stories - 'A Good Man is Hard to Find' is so good, so sinister.
― kathryn bigelow, female juggalo (qiqing), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago)
sometimes i wished i Liked Stuff as much as ppl like scott do. i won't get into a long list but very glad to see tobias wolff show up finally.
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago)
think pretty much everything i would list has been mentioned—lydia davis (probably samuel johnson is indignant?), donald barthelme (can't remember whether i preferred 40 or 60 stories), borges (labyrinths), william gibson (burning chrome). i also have an abiding love for stanislaw lem's cyberiad
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago)
katherine mansfield readers, a few years ago i went to days bay near wellington (the 'at the bay' bay) and it was a brilliant summer morning and the bay looked and felt exactly as she described it, the familiarity of it was haunting in the loveliest but melancholic (because her people are so long gone) way.
― estela, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago)
that is awesome!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago)
it really was, I felt blessed.
― estela, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago)
I've read a lot of short stories, because past a certain point in a novel, everything else goes out the window, or seems like it should (don't bother me, life). But I also tend to hop back and forth between anthologies, not even single authors' collections. Nevertheless, here are some of both, none of which I've re-read in awhile, but they all meant a lot to me at the time:1. A Century of Science Fiction, Damon Knight, ed. Ca. 1961, so goes back to Twain, Fitz-James O'Brien--and a lot further back, briefly, just to get a running start. No idea how this would seem now, but fascinating, story by story, when I was 11 or so, and access to such a time bridge taught me something about the power and authority of organizational concepts. Fried ice cream *is* a reality.2 JD Salinger, Nine Stories--read it about nine times in high school, lots of phrases and scenes are permanently engraved. Especially about the anxious guy's dead voice, "rudely, almost obscenely quickened for the occasion" of a late night phone call to a resigned, acomodating friend. Also, zings, pangs, saluds, some gunshots, afterimages-- "I mean it's nothing you can't read while clipping your toenails", but careful with 'em.3. Thomas Farber, Tales For The Son of My Unborn Child: Berkeley 1966-1969. Can't tell how much of this is fiction, but that's part of the point. Certainly the best Collegetown collection I've seen from any era, and seems like a must to really grok the 60s.These I've mentioned on prev. threads:4. Mary Gaitskill, Because They Wanted To.5. Edward P. Jones, Lost In The City.oops, also discussed these:6. The Portable Faulkner, second edition.7. Graham Greene, 21 Stories.and can't resist importing comments on this, from purchase thread:Some Data and Other Stories of Southern Life, by Sarah Barnwell Elliott, 1848-1927, I think. Civil War-associated trauma, but mostly avoiding antebellum sentimentality except in examining when and how it fucks up her characters (aside from the occasional shameless hardcore Dickensian pathos, when she needed the money badly enough). More the rising tide of social realism, proto-Southern Gothic x absurd/satirical robust oatburners, prob a fan of the later Twain and sure seems like a possible inspiration for Faulkner and Welty. A sufferagette leader of the Deep South. This very posthumous collection, incl five prev unpub. is not rec to font freaks and eyestrain wusses. Several of her books are more readily available, but this is the one I got. (also "Amen!" to many mentioned by Scott and other contributors.)
― dow, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago)
I would add "Last Evenings on Earth" by Bolano. He's really a great short story writer.
― Moreno, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago)
I'll have to check that too. 2666 was my first Bolano, got me hooked.
― dow, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago)
should do a 'POO' thread for nine stories -- 'bananafish' would win of course but my sentimental pick's probably 'esme.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago)
actually i think i've posted about this elsewhere on ilx, but i'd be remiss if i didn't mention it here, even though it's a big anthology and not a single-author collection. i think i got this when i was 11 or 12, and it blew my fucking mind. aside from the fact that it contains just about every one of the heavy-hitters of the genre itself, it was like a gateway drug for pubescent me, since there were some curveballs in there that led me down some very different paths at later dates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Treasury_of_Science_Fiction
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago)
haha, i gave that very collection to another ilxor last christmas! it is great.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago)
that is a rad selection of stuff. and now i know where strongo got his lifelong adoration for john updike from.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago)
wow, there is an updike story in there -- and with a hilariously updikean title. i don't remember a thing about it.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago)
berryman not the first name i'd expect to see in a sci-fi comp
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago)
Arrgh, that's one of the books I just yo-yo through--got to mend my ways!
― dow, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago)
(note to self: YOLO not yo-yo)
― dow, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago)
yay scott for mentioning john ohara, richard matheson, pat highsmith. ohara is a ghost, forgotten these days but so good. on the sci-if tip i loved reading jg ballard's complete stories all the way through last year, arguably as good/better than his best novels. and i like raymond carver less than almost everybody here probably but out of the 80s short story glut lorrie moore and mary gaitskill deserve "props" as people used to say
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago)
obligatory mention of Alasdair Gray's Unlikely Stories Mostly here.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago)
aaaahhhh I totally had (and loved) that World Treasury of Sci-Fi -- couldn't remember the name, thanks for posting!
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago)
I read O'Hara's short stories as a lad, to get a bead on what the grown-ups were doing, especially after they rolled up the sidewalks in towns like mine. Scary! Later, Highsmith's collection Mermaids On The Golf Course was quite a dark lark (and more); title tale about a congressman losing it, really losing it, on a sunny day. High Pathttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_O5acwjCR4G0/TTDdWZ-bQ9I/AAAAAAAAA3s/gftM9hS5cOM/s1600/patty+2.JPG
― dow, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago)
I have no idea what to say to this thread it makes me nervous idk
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago)
mine would prob be something boring like uh
borges - collectedcalvino - cosmicomicscortazar - blow up n othersmathews - human county a collection of gertrude stein essays (which are really stories or w/e)
like, these are the people who really changed my life when I read them, and I'm not embarrassed that young me liked them when I really did, but I don't get the same thing now that I do when I was really into em, but idk other times I would be like chekov, paley, ann beattie, barry hannah, other americans
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago)
J.D. - JD Salinger - Nine Stories (the tribute poll)
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago)
i need to read that again. haven't read it in a million years. be interesting to know what i think of it now that i'm older.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago)
a million years is really old. i'm 23 and *i* need to read it again
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago)
i read it when i was a teen. and i'm 44. teenhood definitely feels like a million years ago. especially with my kid having his tenth birthday last week.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago)
i hadn't read it since high school but i found a copy at a church rummage sale a couple years ago and i was surprised how much i still enjoyed a lot of it.
― bob chipeska (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 7 December 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago)
that said, i'm having trouble remembering the plots of any of them other than "esme" and "bananafish" right now.
― bob chipeska (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 7 December 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago)
Nine Stories I've tried to love.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago)
grrr
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago)
was having one of those ineffectual shout-over-the-background-noise bar conversations with a work buddy a couple weeks back about books and he namedropped JDS as someone who's good to read when you're 14 but embarrassing to revisit later. he must've seen my look of anguish because he tried to change the subject, but i wound up doing my epic speech about how salinger is really all about wartime trauma and anti-semitism, etc., to stony silence. now that i'm sober i've realized that this same guy reps for bret easton ellis so WFC.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 December 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago)
expand on the antisemitism thing?
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago)
the latest biography sort of goes into it more -- salinger experienced a lot of shit for being jewish growing up, was there when dachau was liberated, and suffered a nervous breakdown soon afterward. apparently he made a lot of notes about the holocaust for a possible book -- they're in a library collection somewhere. it only really comes up explicitly in 'down at the dinghy' and maybe a couple of his unpublished stories but i think it's sort of a veiled theme throughout his work. it's also really interesting to me that he made holden caulfield (a character based on himself) super-WASPy and kind of a dick about ppl whose 'suitcases weren't as nice,' et al. ha, now i'm regretting not going to grad school.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 December 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago)
lol
thanks
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 06:01 (twelve years ago)
i'm not still at an age where i need to vehemently defend salinger and holden from the Same Exact Criticism Every Time (ugh whiny teens!) but catcher is and always will be one of the more accurate depictions of teenage depression/mental disorder/suicidalness. maybe you can strike 'teenage' from that.
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Friday, 7 December 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago)
my 16 y.o. son read nine stories this year in school, liked it better than catcher. all teens are whiny! but hopefully not depressed/suicidal
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I suspect if I were to do comparative reading now, I'd agree with your son. Nine Stories has more variety, incl person of the narrator--I'm currently sick of novels with first-person narrators, Unreliable or supposedly other. Just gets to seem like over-selling, the character over-pleading his case--too often, somebody I should be paid to listen to, if I were qualified to counsel (thinking of Holden *and* the new Junot Diaz, for inst). I also suspect I like "Franny" better than "Zooey" because the former works as a taut, third-person short story, while "Zooey" is mainly Franny and the reader being lectured by Zooey (although the revelation about several Nine Stories characters being Glass siblings seems entirely appropriate). Never got through Raise High etc; Buddy Glass, droning on, seemed like one of my high school teachers. I should try it again, though.
― dow, Friday, 7 December 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago)
Third-person is more likely to provide perspective, and breathing room.
― dow, Friday, 7 December 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago)
Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters is as good as anything else of his!
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago)
ballard - completebarthelme - sixty storiesborges - labyrinthshemingway - snows of kilimanjaro vonnegut - welcome to the monkey house
― dexpresso (Z S), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago)
Ballard was my big discovery last year, thanks to ILX.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago)
Nine Stories is awesome too!
― dexpresso (Z S), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago)
yeah, i felt kind of like a jerk putting ballard on my list because i've only read two of his novels and about 15 of the many short stories in the Complete collection. but i'm such a huge fan of what i've read so far ("storm-bird, storm-dreamer" in particular), i'm confident i'll enjoy the rest just as much.
― dexpresso (Z S), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago)
which novels?
― bob chipeska (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago)
High Rise and Empire of the Sun.
― dexpresso (Z S), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago)
i never read anything after "empire," but definitely read "crash" and "crystal world" and probably "drowned world" too. i'm guessing the "atrocity exhibition" stuff is in the collected shorts book. can't remember offhand.
― the oral history of (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago)
"high rise" is probably the best, though.
about 3/4 of the atrocity exhibition collection is also in the "complete" short stories book.
― dexpresso (Z S), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago)
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Friday, December 7, 2012 10:39 AM (4 hours ago)
yes, and i love seymour too
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago)
the only mature salinger i don't like is 'hapworth.' i've gotten through it twice and i still don't understand wtf he was trying to do there.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 December 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago)
i feel like there's a big gap in his work between published and unpublished. and by published i mean in book form, not just the stories in the new yorker
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Friday, 7 December 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago)
yeah i need to read hapworth. that's the summer camp one, right?
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 December 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago)
yeah, it's basically just seven-year-old seymour glass writing home from camp and asking his family to send him books and using lots of big words. it's kind of hilarious inasmuch as you can't believe that salinger is really devoting an entire story to this letter and nothing else, and that he's letting it go on for as long as it does -- it actually filled up an entire issue of the new yorker! i've got lots of love for all the other glass stories, though.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago)
I don't know if I even have five, but Denton Welch's (out of print last time I checked) collected stories would definitely be one. Oh yeah, looking upthread, Borges' Labyrinths would be on there too.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 30 December 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago)
Also his journals are great. I love how he's always providing very detailed accounts of meals consisting mostly of sweets.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 30 December 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago)
robert walser to thread
― nostormo, Sunday, 30 December 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago)
Borges - The Book of SandShirley Jackson - The Lottery and Other StoriesWill Self - Tough, Tough Toys for Tough, Tough BoysPoe - Tales of Mystery and ImaginationA. E. Coppard - Collected Short StoriesJoyce - Dubliners
Self kinda sticks out like a sore thumb, oh well. Yes I know that's six books. I feel like a Salinger should be in there, and a de Maupassant, and a bunch of other stuff. Hard to get it down to a handful.
― Doctor Flange, Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:07 (twelve years ago)
Totally forgot about Angela Carter's The Bloody Chamber, which my teen self loved to bits and is fairly perfectly-formed.
― etc, Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:16 (twelve years ago)
volumes of short stories I have loved:- Borges, Collected- Barthelme, City Life- Flaubert, Three Tales- Beckett, Stories & Texts For Nothing
weird things that may or may not count as "short story collections":- Thomas Bernhard, The Voice Imitator- Baudelaire, Paris Spleen- Ben Marcus, The Age of Wire and String
― fiscal cliff bar (bernard snowy), Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)
... but tbrr I am not really a short story reader, something about the form doesn't appeal to me. idk.
oh, I forgot to put Murakami on there—Elephant Vanishes probably best, but I read After the Quake before it so sentimental pick
― fiscal cliff bar (bernard snowy), Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)
& maybe Cervantes' Exemplary Stories...?
(these are all turning out to be things I read in, or around, college)
― fiscal cliff bar (bernard snowy), Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)