ILE Bannings

They are temporary bans for reviving multiple threads at once, making the board less usable. Both posters will be able to post again next week.

Why doesn't a similar policy apply to starting 30 or 40 poll threads a day, as happened a fortnight back?

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:51 (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Also why only ban two of the three people "reviving multiple threads at once", and why not post a comment indicating that they had been banned?

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:52 (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Fourthly, surely all posters who are posting to said revived threads, repeatedly bumping them to the top of new answers, are also culpable?

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:52 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Five: who is Charlie?

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:52 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

At the time of banning, the top 15 ILE threads were revived Dog Latin threads - they've since sunk down the page. It was hardly fair on anyone else using the board.

Also why only ban two of the three people "reviving multiple threads at once"

Only two of the three people were noticed.

Why doesn't a similar policy apply to starting 30 or 40 poll threads a day, as happened a fortnight back?

because that was done by sassy americans who ride wild at the gates of dawn and take no prisoners

also starting loads of vaguely amusing polls is still better than reviving a load of threads started by the same person just so you can take the piss out of that person who isn't even around to 'defend' themselves

Although I'm not Charlie, it was me who banned both posters - I'm saying so because Pash is offline right now for a good reason and it's REALLY not a good time to be calling him out or hassling him offboard, which could well happen. To be honest I probably wouldn't have banned either of you (I'm barely looking at ILX right now, I might not even have noticed) if I hadn't received three emails in pretty quick succession going "can you make them stop? It's really fucking annoying". None of which were from Doglatin incidentally.

I think the annoyance was less about going after a regular poster and more about swamping the board with dozens of thread due to a (not particularly funny) joke. And bearing in mind there are probably hundreds of Doglatin threads I had no idea when it was going to stop.

I'm happy to unban you all as long as you promise to cut this out. It's hugely annoying for 99% of ILE posters to have to wade through endless threads of three people dicking about. Any one poster or small group of posters starting dozens of poll threads would have the same treatment, although they might be asked nicely to stop first due to being a bit less mean-spirited.

Also why only ban two of the three people "reviving multiple threads at once"

friends in high places, big guy.

And the reason for my ILE ban is...?

Please don't leave, Marcello!

( When ILE/Moderator board mods get shook )

Has Passantino's ban been extended to ILM as well? Is this is the end of the Passantino posting era?

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at this moment dom needs hen fap like never before

Sorry but there's going to be No Hen Fap for Dom until he behaves.

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The ILM ban wasn't me, btw.

Passantino has apparently been banned from all ILx forums now.

This one goes out to those not with us

There's a failed Dom Passantino meme-shaped hole in my heart

kinda odd. remember how much hand wringing there was over calum and then one of the most prolific posters on ilx ever is just perma-banned without a whimper.

Nobody else wants to be disappeared.

This seems kind of fucked up, unless I missed some egregious offense.

guess too many people were sick of his antics

If that was a criterion for banning blah blah blah

Nobody else wants to be disappeared.

-- Noodle Vague, Monday, July 16, 2007 3:28 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i was going to post lol but actually i mean 8080.

Both posters will be able to post again next week.

-- Charlie, Friday, July 13, 2007 12:50 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

The bastards got me, but they won't get everybody

In before anonymous thread lock and 597 bannage.

-- Noodle Vague, Monday, July 16, 2007 4:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

This thread has been locked by an administrator

This is whack.

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who is 597? we're dying to know

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i am barry, steve.

Hi guys, what have I missed?

Ban Emergency Lalla Ward 10

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Welcome, Steve Barry!

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can we ask about admin log here w/o getting threads locked?

"Charlie" = Bullshit

why was he banned?

Mods seem very quick to arbitarily ban people, but a little more leisurely paced when it comes to explaining their decisions or responding to e-mails on the subject.

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Matt explained why he banned Dom upthread

Matt's explanation came an hour or so after a complaint was made ABOUT the ban - too leisurely?

maybe one could understand why it happened considering the context behind it all (dom's track record plus actual complaints) - of course not everyone would agree but there are many people who would post maracas.jpg at the decision, were such behaviour not considered mean-spirited and inappropriate in itself. i don't know if this number of people is more or less than number of people either against the ban in principle or number of people against it because they like DoOm for whatever reason (might be interesting to see if a similar response would occur from a ban of Louis, called for many times by Dom, jokingly - i think, and others not so jokingly)

people who would post maracas.jpg at the decision

*snort*

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Blueski, today.

nice!

Can Matt DC do site wide bans?

No.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dom Passantino, whoever he is, would have been sitewide banned by Stet, Keith, teeny, or Pashmina, yes? And as Pashmina is away, it must have been one of the earlier three.

maracas.jpg was the point where ILX finally became more zing than culture, there is no way back.

Steve, DP was banned from all ILX after the MDC ban. This is annoying because there was no accompanying poll/clusterfuck Trial By ILX thread.

no and i didn't mean to imply that he was, sorry if i misunderstood. i can only speculate on reasons for the site-wide ban - i would imagine it's to do with the banned user taking the issue onto other boards for attention?

(xposts x3)

It does seem kinda weird that ILX mods were happy for Nude Spock to do his ironic racism for two or three years before banning him, but issue a sitewide ban on Dom for bumping six threads in the same day immediately.

I think that Dom had been building up to it for a while really.

True dat

Serves him right for not starting enough poll threads

Towards the end he had this strange tone, as if he knew he'd be going away soon.

what do you think should happen 597?

The mods do some actual modding?

they don't?

i gotta say the inaction on this request is a disgrace

Sure, Dom acted the twat but can we now expect full site wide bans for the other ILx folk demons?

remind me who they are

did graham actually ban james blount?

I think a few of the noize board would like a fellow called "blueski" banned.

Doubt it really.

POLL

(might be interesting to see if a similar response would occur from a ban of Louis, called for many times by Dom, jokingly - i think, and others not so jokingly)

-- blueski, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

yeah it was ned fuckin' raggett who was the most straight-up-burn-the-witch about jiggaman.

this is such bullshit, still.

i can *just about* understand the ILE ban (ALTHOUGH how many threads did dom revive? i bet i revived more calum threads last week. ALSO: uh a warning, maybe? ALSO: if you have a problem, put it on ModReq so it can be discused. why did it need to go offboard? ALSO: admin log plz.)

but what the shit about going sitewide with no explanation at all for however long? the amount of shit that doomy, marcello, calum, momus, tuomas, et al, have got away with puts this in the shadows.

did graham actually ban james blount?

graham basically treated ILE as his own equivalent of today's noise board which would explain why he took actions like that.

I think a few of the noize board would like a fellow called "blueski" banned

not when i possess such delightful maracas.

suggested poll options:

- unban Dom, it was totally uncalled for you nazis
- ban Dom forever for whatever reason you deem fit, i hate that git
- don't care about this at all, i give mods benefit of doubt/trust their judgement

let the people decide

yeah it was ned fuckin' raggett who was the most straight-up-burn-the-witch about jiggaman.

did he srsly want him banned tho?

tuomas has surely never done anything remotely banworthy but good lulz effort there

Let's get it straight, Ned didn't call for Louis's banning, he called for Louis to be murdered.

So apparently "incitement to murder" less of an ilx crime than "bumping a couple of threads".

- don't care about this at all, i give mods benefit of doubt/trust their judgement

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Finally got to see that film only recently. Wasn't really worth the wait.

i'm gonna start that poll on I Must Protest for you guys so hit me up with those alternative or additional options quick

-reinstate admin log

still no response on why dom's ban is sitewide.

I banned Dom. He did enough to get himself banned from two boards in about three days, and then took it on to a third, is why. Pash is away right now, Keith is effectively so, and I'm busy as all hell so I don't have the time or inclination to deal with a site-wide eruption of outrage on his part.

I don't know what yr point is 597 -- that the mods used to be slack and now they aren't? Or that because they used to be slack they should continue to be for evermore?

And, btw, that's more than you'd get from Admin Log, which would say (....) or something as a reason.

if dom hadn't started the thread on ILM (why is that even a problem?) someone else would have started a thread like this (very similar) thread by now saying "what the fuck?" it wasn't an "eruption of outrage", just a fucking thread.

This thread is very similar? Doesn't look like it: it's on ModReq for a start, and the first post isn't a screed about menstruation. The ModReq ban should have been a warning to him, really. And then he was a twat on ILE right after, and got banned for that as well. But he took it twattishly to ILM. So if I'd banned him from ILM or deleted that, would he have taken that quietly, or would I have been chasing it across the boards?

i shd check the faq to see if there are new rules about how threads should be started now, but it was a similar thread to this in that it has the exact same subject. if there had been a process such as

1) Mod Req from dom-hater
2) Mod yea-ing it (and specifying terms of ban)

then perhaps it wouldn't have happened. as if it's a fucking big deal anyway, a single thread on ilm that generated some lolz.

a ban for being a dick isn't a really fucking big deal either?

Dom was banned from Mod Req for different reasons than the thread bumping. He was being a dick though.

if we're banning people for being dicks now, the mods will have their work cut out.

dom WAS being a dick on ModReq, it is true.

bumping dog latin threads is pretty minor shit though.

if we're banning people for being dicks now, the mods will have their work cut out.

but the mods are in place to JUDGE who is being the biggest dick. there has never been any other mechanism in place to carry out this vital task!

bumping dog latin threads is pretty minor shit though.

don't forget the multiple sclerosis zing

I was going to make a "if you're that tired all the time, maybe save your energy by posting less shitty threads", but that's ME not MS, right?

-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 19:54 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

Being mean about multiple sclerosis is not nice, and I guess the ILE temp bans were justified if a bit abrupt, but to make a Friday afternoon shit-talk thread on ILM the reason for the overall ban seems a bit harsh given that a) there wasn't much communication about it and b) said thread turned out to be the FUNNIEST THING EVER.

even tho i sort of disagree with the (temporary) site wide ban this is counter-balanced by Dom's history propensity for being a dick, you know?

i mean you have no idea how long i agonised over whether to accept his friendbook request or not. in the end i tossed a coin.

history OF AND propensity, that shoulda said

It was all three things got him the site ban, tho. There could have been more communication, I spose, but in about a five-minute window I came home, had emails moaning about the pick-on-someone-who-can't-respond bumps, then mod emails saying he'd been banned for it, checked ILX saw him starting yet more shit on ILM and put him on a time-out.

Are you saying asking for an explanation as to why you've been banned is "starting shit" stet?

no but doing the whole 'mods on the rag wtf' thing is

When JW trouble reached breaking point they made Noize. Could you make a Hen Fap board?

why not just use Idiot Thread Repository or I Pwn Everything?

I suppose stet is right insofar that Passantino should have known to stop it after the e-mail stet would have sent him after his ban from the ModReq board. I assume he sent him an e-mail because otherwise, without admin log, how was he supposed to know?

oh wait because only 3 people read them (xp)

Is what stet saying true? Is ILX effectively not being modded these days because the mods are "too busy"? Shouldn't these mods step down and hand the reigns over to those who have the time and inclination to stop this place turning into raging anarchy?

why not just use Idiot Thread Repository or I Pwn Everything?

-- blueski, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:34 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

ITR is strictly DC now, IPE is pato-bato-esteban

I suppose stet is right insofar that Passantino should have known to stop it after the e-mail stet would have sent him after his ban from the ModReq board. I assume he sent him an e-mail because otherwise, without admin log, how was he supposed to know?

Pash banned him from ModReq, and put a note that effect in the thread. Matt explained his ILE ban. Can the site ban have come from the bewildering darkness?

Is what stet saying true? Is ILX effectively not being modded these days because the mods are "too busy"? Shouldn't these mods step down and hand the reigns over to those who have the time and inclination to stop this place turning into raging anarchy?
Er, no. What I'm saying is that of the site-wide people who can do major stuff like sitewide bans, one is away for personal reasons and two are v. busy in the short-term. There are plenty of board mods doing their thing.

You need to put "don't bump six threads in two hours" into the FAQ stet. I _do_ agree with you that it's much worse than calling for the death of all practising Muslims, but some people around here might disagree?

16 threads, and not just to bump them, to pick on someone who can't respond.

and the fact that it was Dom, with his reputation

Dom bumped all 16 threads? I retract my previous statement, I thought the threads were bumped by three long-time ilx users one of whom didn't get suspended at all. I honestly apologise, I must have made you out to be a fool stet and I regret that.

hi dere

Ooh shit, did I get that wrong? Cripes, and here's me striding about dealing out life-and-death 4-day bans on incomplete information. If only I'd known it was just the 5 or 6 threads, it would have been so different.

You're happy to ban people from ilx without knowing full information?

not to excuse mods decisions this way but why does it bother you this much to the point where you resort to sarcasm and patronising?

do you believe ILE ground to be too sacred for 'wanton bans' unlike other boards? this is understandable

You're happy to ban people from ilx without knowing full information?

alternative question: are the majority of ILX users happy for mods to do this?

Didn't blueski beat down on Dog Latin a hell of a lot when he was actually posting on ILx?

I think stet has an uphill battle as ILX mod because before him being lumped with the server nobody really knew who he was, and incidents like this aren't going to help him earn the respect that a mod of a fully functioning notable message board deserves. And that's something we can all agree on.

a lot of the dog latin revives were kept revived by people. it was a slow day and, welp, he had some provocative things to say that were still relative in 2007. it was a tribute to his longevity.

alternative question: are the majority of ILX users happy for mods to do this?

Most of us have jobs and don't honestly care that much.

Didn't blueski beat down on Dog Latin a hell of a lot when he was actually posting on ILx?

hey i'm right here you can ask me directly

what do you mean by 'beat down'? argue with about stuff?

would appreciate it if you could actually answer my questions dude, genuinely curious

And that's something we can all agree on.

if you say so chief. singling out a mod because they are less established and using this question their judgement is one thing but when they own the server and must take a certain degree of responsibility for the content on the msg board they help maintain, that complicates things

It's a situation nobody, stet included, wanted but now we're here we've got to work to make the best of it. And by banning longtime posters such as Passantino who, for better or worse, have a following amongst certain ilxors, it's going to make things ugly. At the moment, stet just appears to be Graham minus the throwing drinks over people.

Most of us have jobs and don't honestly care that much.

which amounts to a 'yes' then.

the majority of british voters want the death penalty back.

that is not official

At the moment, stet just appears to be Graham minus the throwing drinks over people.

to you and maybe 4 or 5 others maybe

And by banning longtime posters such as Passantino who, for better or worse, have a following amongst certain ilxors, it's going to make things ugly.

are you saying Stet is responsible for YOUR actions?

this site-wide ban IS temporary right?

if you're going to be claiming that passantino was banned on democratic principles, then ilx could do with a few other trappings of democracy, like a written body of laws, independent judiciary, elected mods, etc.

If only Dom were here to put his side of the argument across

Burbage dies on pg. 12
Hedwig dies on pg. 56
Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78
Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159
Wormtail dies on pg. 471
Dobby dies on pg. 476
Snape dies on pg. 658
Fred Weasley dies on pg. 637
Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 but comes back to life on pg. 724
Tonks, Lupin, and Colin Creevy have their deaths confirmed on pg. 743

19 years after the events in the book:
Ron has married Hermione, their two children are named Rose and Hugo
Harry has married Ginny, their three children are named Lily, James, and Albus severus.
Draco Malfoy has a son named Scorpius
The epilogue shows all of the children boarding the train for Hogwarts together.
The final lines of the book are: “The scar had not pained Harry for 18 years. All was well.”

oops wrong thread

Enrique you're being a bit disinguenous here - it's the cumulative effect we're talking about. I don't know Stet's exact motivation, but I'm assuming the thread bumpings and the ILM thread were the straw that broke the camel's back, like when I finally snapped with Mickey and banned him after his behaviour on the Virginia shootings thread.

Taking the piss out of another poster's disability is cuntishness of the highest order. I mean, short of spreading viruses or outright racist or homophobic abuse or trolling, I can't think of many things that should justify a sitewide ban. After he was banned, he then proceeded to revive, with others, a shitload of threads purely to have a pop at another poster (who last time I looked was still posting, under a different name). Presumably he thought he could get away with it because he's a long standing prolific poster. Maybe it's good that one has finally been banned, so people know there is a line you can eventually cross no matter how long or how much you've been posting.

Actually, the fact that he's so prolific makes it worse. The Dom of a year or so ago wasn't anywhere near as bad. Now his decent contributions (and they do exist) are buried under hundreds of posts of snark, mean-spiritedness and bitching every month. He actually enjoys it, the man even has a blog full of posts celebrating the times he's pissed people off.

Also, when he did get banned, he didn't go "alright, I fucked up, I'm sorry", he went and got even more confrontational. Presumably the side admins who spend hours of their time working on keeping this site running didn't take kindly to all the "lol incompetant" stuff. I notice Dom wasn't calling the mods incompetant when they promptly, quietly and with no questions asked deleted posts slandering him all over the boards. He then started a thread about the person slandering him.

Yes, the "if being a dick was a bannable offence why not ban x or y" is a valid argument, but no one is as unpleasant this routinely (except possibly Marcello in the old days and there were mitigating circumstances there). Why should anyone give Dom the benefit of the doubt? There comes a point when "it's just for lolz" isn't really a valid defence.

When did Passantino make fun of another poster's disability?

And remember that you yourself implied Passantino was a potential rapist, Matt. If you're going to talk about ILXors whose contributions over the years have degenerated into nothing but bitterness and snark...

Actually it was a potential murderer but fair cop.

So this is a four-day ban then? Are we going to lock this thread when his four days are up or are we going to turn this into the kind of meta shitstorm that best typified old ILx?

good call on the mickey ban ref. where was the protest for that? how could what he did be argued as worse? ditto wagemann. dom was let off for that sort of behaviour countless times in the past seemingly just because he'd been around long enough and certain people liked him enough. i've accepted mod 'inconsistency' in this regard, it is unavoidable.

Mickey was harassing posters off-board, wasn't he? Wagemann was spamming, and to be honest was no worse than J$not or The Twisted Pollstarter when it comes to clogging up New Answers.

it's zing culture's first casualty. i thought the modreq ban was appropriate for the jsnot remark, but we have whole threads dedicated to ridiculing ilxors' photos so i don't really go along with the other stuff. i think mickey and pew were a lot worse, and they didn't even leave us the great memes that passantino generated. oh! burn!

I think it's safe to say if Passantino was American he wouldn't have been banned, right?

Mickey was harassing posters off-board, wasn't he?

the FAQ has always stated that mods don't get involved in THAT. bans occur for on-board behaviour only (or should do)

Wagemann was spamming, and to be honest was no worse than J$not or The Twisted Pollstarter when it comes to clogging up New Answers.

Wagemann was banned for casual racism iirc, but it was pretty dubious and heavily influenced by the general feeling that he was just a dick anyway.

protesters just as inconsistent as moderators

"police just as indiscriminate as criminals"

blueski, you're commonly seen as someone who didn't cut it as a mod. What changes to ILX would have made your job easier during the time?

I think it's safe to say if Passantino was American he wouldn't have been banned, right?

-- 597, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:23 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this seems right but are there even any american site-wide mods?? you guys don't seem to trust us ;_;

Ooooh aren't I just a rascal!

Teeny is American, and I think Ned might be site-wide now. I agree we need more mods, especially in the States.

Passantino for mod?

blueski, you're commonly seen as someone who didn't cut it as a mod. What changes to ILX would have made your job easier during the time?

compliments just as consistent as complaints

Ooooh aren't I just a rascal!

thought 597 was Dom half an hour ago but would he ever type this?

Maybe a "Moderator Praise Forum"?

reading this whole thread it would appear that you mods are now locked in a cycle of feeding another anon troll. I mean "I think it's safe to say if Passantino was American he wouldn't have been banned, right?"

- I think you meant "amirite" at the end. Jokes bruv! LOL etc

Matt DC OTM, Dom crossed the line on the mod thread where Pash banned him. his response to that was basically a JW style fit except he was personally attacking other users on multiple threads across multiple boards whereas JW's redeeming quality in these moments is that he will simply ban users from noize instead of taking his adolescent fury onto ILM/ILE and trying as hard as possible to share his one-man pissing championship with the whole world.

Num, num, num!

(I don't think 597 is Dom at all BTW. Clearly some other longtime poster who has a very selective memory of Dom's posts and some confusion about the volume of his misanthropic spew over the past year and a half)

I've eaten all the cakes!

dog latin thread revive friday was not a response to the modreq ban.

there'd been a calum thread revive friday the week before.

jw's last flame-out had more effect on ilx than ONE whinge thread on ILM and six thread revives anyway.

Thank god non-misanthropic posters like Tombot are here to balance everything out.

Non misanthropic posters 8080 blood diamonds 1980s film actor lol, sorry.

597's posts seem to be getting cheaper by the minute. i guess we've worn him down?

This is whack.

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, July 16, 2007 6:45 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

qft

Tombot should set up a "Dom Passantino vs the individual movies of C Thomas Howell" thread. That'd be funny.

do you believe ILE ground to be too sacred for 'wanton bans' unlike other boards?

unanswered

do you believe ILE ground to be too sacred for 'wanton bans' unlike other boards?

noise board is tied up very specifically with jw and his crew. ile is more heterogenous, and i don't even know who the mods are.

Imagine if you did this to Masonic Boom or Marcello! They'd hear the maracas in Tooting!

i think everyone should have to take a mandatory course called "learning to enjoy and find humour in getting one's own balls busted." people would enjoy life a lot more. and there'd be tons more great zings.

-- s1ocki, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:29 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

597 = L0u1s J4gg3r!

L0u1s J@gger (Cambridge) wrote
at 9:38pm on July 17th, 2007

i also hope you've got something big planned for your return next week, dom. i won't be around to see it, unfortunately, but i trust there'll be reprinted song lyrics involved.
Message - Report - Delete

Dom is Biggie and Jagger is Pac right?

597 = L0u1s J4gg3r!

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LOLz @ Louis baiting Dom off board. How times change!

Sure there was beef but y 'know at the end of the day they had respect for each other.

Course you did.

My zing to Passantino offboard was just a recycled Quitney-to-Passantino zing, anyway. He deserves some of the credit.

They see me rollin'
They hatin'
Patrollin' and trying to catch me ridin dirty
(trying to catch me ridin dirty) X 4
My music so loud
I'm swangin'
They hopin' that they gonna catch me ridin dirty
(trying to catch me ridin dirty) X 4

etc

Why do people even care about this joke of a prize?

Mercury,Brits,NME,Kerrang Awards , don't need any of them. Fuck them all.

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Can we ban this guy?

-- 597, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:02 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

time to put this bitch thread on ice

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44004000/jpg/_44004571_groupshot2203.jpg

passantino defence campaign, earlier.

That's racist! Ban Quitney!

Isn't that one of The Roots second from left at the front@

reading this whole thread it would appear that you mods are now locked in a cycle of feeding another anon troll."
qft