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Looks like this thread is or will turn into trolling.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's harmless.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

So far yes, but the Kenan and Orbit comments pasted there make me wonder what the intentions of the thread starter are.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

And now he's pasting some of my posts too, how predictable. Since Orbit and Kenan and I are "Noise Dude enemies", I fear this might turn into another flame war.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

FEAR IS THE MINDKILLER

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

move it to aja/dante?

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's really messing up the blog view of ILE with its endless posts, so please do...

[/my 2p]

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

"So far yes, but the Kenan and Orbit comments pasted there make me wonder what the intentions of the thread starter are.

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), September 20th, 2005."

i think he means to ridicule them, tuomas.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think moving it would be right

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

even if it does become a flame war, why does it need deleting/moving/etc? do we delete all flame wars now?

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

As I understand it the purpose of the A/D board is to provide a space where posters can work out their complex feelings for one another in relative privacy, NRQ.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

haha tom.

It looks like someone has splurged the thread into oblivion anyway.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

Can it please be moved? It's destroying the new answers blog.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

The last image splurge on that thread is displaying images, even though I have them turned off in my settings.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Any sufficiently large number of consecutive images within a single post will bypass the images off thing. Actually, there's also a way to get the img tag to ignore the parser and show your image regardless but I can't remember what it is (maybe the src value isn't in quotes?).

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I realised after I posted above - the image tags go across off-screen for quite a way.

I was going to cut & paste the whole thread into a hacker text convertor, and post the results as a new answer on the thread, but I can't be bothered. Too much effort for minimal laffs.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

[/my 2p]

― the son of dean cameron (dr g), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39040

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Can I be Janie Lewis?

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Pay no attention to this thread.

― amon (eman), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.queerclick.com/images/geekshots.jpg

― amen, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

(l-r) tuomas, j dubya

― amen, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

This is the straw that broke the camel's back with regards to my

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

.. yes?

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh my

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone once again remind me why ILE wasn't made registered-users only?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

And that would have stopped a thread like this very ignorable, stupid one I dont know why anyone's worrying about, why again?

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really care about someone trying to imitate me for whatever reason, or someone posting silly pictures, but it's kinda stupid that threads that might otherwise interesting turn into playgrounds for these anonymous posters, like the one Amon linked to. This is why I don't think the option of making your threads registered users only isn't enough. Trolls can still start threads of their own (like the "Best Posts" one) or hijack seemingly innocuous ones that weren't made reg-only.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

"might be"

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

This is why I don't think the option of making your threads registered users only isn't enough.

This is why you think the option of making our threads registered users only is enough.

― kurt broder (dr g), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~daranz/outside/frm/hijack.jpg

― kurt broder (dr g), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas the thread Amon linked to has "joke answers acceptable" IN THE QUESTION!

Why shouldn't trolls start threads? You don't have to look at them, and it's not as if the two words "BEST POSTS" are at all offensive anyway. If someone posts a personal attack on you, you can ask for it to be deleted. If you start a thread, you can lock it to registered users. These two things I still think strike the best balance in terms of allowing ILE to offer something for everyone who uses it, not just a particular group.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but I think most people will click on threads like "Best Posts" or "The Oldest Internet Page" not expecting personal commentary, and once you've read it, the damage is already done, whether or not it's deleted. Personally, I don't care about that shit enough to ask for it's removal, but I respect the views of those who do. Also, lately the sheer amount of anonymous asshattery has made ILE a rather bothersome read, which I don't think is a good thing for anyone. And it has made me - and probably others too - wary of posting anything personal to ILE, which I think is a real loss for the board.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

it's a tragedy

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

God help us if there's a war, etc.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

the damage!!!

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

lately the sheer amount of anonymous asshattery has made ILE a rather bothersome read, which I don't think is a good thing for anyone.

so don't read it? also, people generally don't like it when you tell them what's a "good thing" for them.

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, that was badly worded, what I meant is that there must be others who find this shit tedious too. And "if you don't like it, don't read it" is a bit of an easy answer: if I don't like it, can't I express why I don't like it, and maybe suggest what I think would make it better? I've posted here for two and a half years now, and I think lately things on this board have changed for the worse, and if this is the direction the board is going to, yeah, I might stop reading it, but I just wanted to point out that I think this possible change of tone would be a real loss for ILE.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

You know, if it's *just one thread* then it's easily avoidable. But when a troll logs in overnight and dribbles half a dozen threads with insane amounts of image splooging all over the new answers, it's irritating and disruptive.

Also rather hard to avoid when it splooges up the blog view. (Even if I had images turned off, massive long posts of nothing but 22k of quotes do rather destroy the blog view.)

"If you don't like it, don't read it" is fair advice, but what about when it's forced on you this way?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

"forced"

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

if I don't like it, can't I express why I don't like it, and maybe suggest what I think would make it better?

you can suggest until you turn blue, but it doesn't mean people have to listen to you. the truth is, most people don't care, and are happy using ilx for whatever suits them and then getting on with their lives. there's no "moral majority" here, just a couple of PTA moms who want to speak for everyone else and tell them how they feel. here's a thought: try not taking the noise dudes so seriously, let them have their little haxor art projects and "ilxor celebrity roast" threads, and if anyone else has a problem, let them take it up themselves with the powers that be.

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

fwiw, i am now too sexy to troll

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

try not taking the noise dudes so seriously, let them have their little haxor art projects and "ilxor celebrity roast" threads

That's the standard Noise Dude answer isn't it? "Can't you take a joke?" I'm sorry, maybe I'm just a tight-assed bore, but the way I see things is that calling someone a "bitch" or a "fattie" or a "faggot" is something that can just be disregarded (unless the one so called is in on the joke, of course). The problem with a "live and let live", "everyone gets different things out of it" attitude towards ILE is that the current trolls (whoever they are - I'm not saying it's the Noise Dudes, or just the Noise Dudes) don't want to let those who may get some personal things out of ILE live in peace.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas, you are the troll here. Trolls are stirring up trouble to make you act unreasonable!

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

That's the standard Noise Dude answer isn't it? "Can't you take a joke?"

"try not taking them so seriously" != "can't you take a joke." it means "there are lots of things in this world to take seriously; why expend so much energy on this?"

The problem with a "live and let live", "everyone gets different things out of it" attitude towards ILE

...is that you just want an ILE where you can get what YOU want out of it.

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

you'd think he'd be satisfied with idme where he and kate and orbit can ban and delete everyone else but them to their hearts content but no he wants EVERY board to be like that.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

What the heck is "idme"?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

I Hate Stoners

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that board. I've nothing to do with it (I don't have mod powers on any board), I think I've made one or two posts there, so I couldn't even understand what Blount was saying.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you should work on your english.

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

I repeat:

If someone posts a personal attack on you, you can ask for it to be deleted. If you start a thread, you can lock it to registered users. These two things I still think strike the best balance in terms of allowing ILE to offer something for everyone who uses it, not just a particular group.

If I was posting something personal on ILE I would start a new thread and make it reg-only (I would also ignore any trackbacks).

Also, the Mod board is for situations that need moderating, not for things that might do at some point.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

if i was posting something personal on ile i would sit down and examine my fucking life

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm sorry. I just wanted to give an early warning, because the thread looked like it was headed for trolling. Won't do it again.

(x-post)

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

Personally, I don't care about that shit enough to ask for it's removal, but I respect the views of those who do.

NAME NAMES

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jon, for example, when Randy/Jakc was attacking him.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

"So far yes, but the Kenan and Orbit comments pasted there make me wonder what the intentions of the thread starter are.
-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), September 20th, 2005."

i think he means to ridicule them, tuomas.

this is not the place to say this, but - that made me laugh out loud, which ilx rarely does. good one nrq.

on a more on-topic note, tom is very otm here, i think.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

i thought you were an anarchist Tuomas?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Before someone points it out, yes, I have defended Kate and Orbit on several occasions too. Regardless on what they migh've done to "deserve" it, I thought the attacks towards them were uncalled for.

I'm sort of an anarchist politically, but not when it comes personal issues. I don't view ILE as some sort of an political entity where the same rules would apply as in a society as a whole. I see it (and I know some of you may disagree with me) more as a group of people coming together to discuss about different things, like in a pub or a cafe. And like in real life, if someone is constantly interrupting these discussions and insulting people, I think they have the right to ask him to stop, and if he doesn't, they have the right to throw him out of the group. The only problem is that this is much easier to implement in real life than in here.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm hijacking this thread and driving it into a synagogue

allah ackbar, etc.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

I see I Love Everything as an internet message board in which everything can be talked about.

ILE working well = value of "everything" maximised.

ILE working badly = either users or mods are preventing this.

Way to maximise "everything": reward the threads you enjoy, by contributing well to them and starting others like them. Ignore the threads you don't.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

But ILE working well also includes mods preventing repetition, serious abuse (both of other users and the board itself from a technical point of view re spamming, 'netiquette' etc. - no? So not everything CAN be talked about, and not everything CAN be ignored, ultimately. But you are OTM anyway.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

But ILE working well also includes mods preventing repetition, serious abuse (both of other users and the board itself from a technical point of view re spamming, 'netiquette' etc. - no? So not everything CAN be talked about, and not everything CAN be ignored, ultimately. But you are OTM anyway.

Right noise.
We're gonna get real speedy
You gotta wear black all the time
You're gonna make it on your own.

Cos we dig
Cos we dig
We dig
We dig repetition
We dig repetition
We've repetition in the music
And we're never going to lose it.

All you daughters and sons
who are sick of fancy music
We dig repetition
Repetition on the drums
and we're never going to lose it.

This is the three R's
The three R's:
Repetition, Repetition, Repetition

Oh mental hospitals
Oh mental hospitals
They put electrodes in your brain
And you're never the same
You don't dig repetition
You don't love repetition

Repetition in the music and we're never going to loose it

President Carter loves repetition
Chairman Mao he dug repetition

Repetition in China
Repetition in America
Repetition in West Germany
Simultaneous suicides

We dig it, we dig it,
we dig it, we dig it

Repetition, repetition, repetition
Repetition, repetition, Regal Zonophone

There is no hesitation
This is your situation
Continue a blank generation
Blank generation
Same old blank generation
Groovy blank generation
Swinging blank generation

Repetition, repetition, repetition....

― Mark E. Smith, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think you're right in principle, Tom, but there are people who do not contribute "well" to some threads, in fact they are probably not at all interested on the thread itself, rather than upsetting the people who post on that thread. And it can also be difficult to ignore threads you don't like, because the thread title doesn't necessarily indicate what the actual content is (see the "The Oldest Internet Page" thread).

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

oh for fuck's sake.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I've begun to repeat myself on this subject, I'll stop now.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

This is seriously a million times funnier than the Excelsior threads.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, Some People Are Really Outraged By This Board's Very Existence!

― cuckoo, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

HE, HE

― kurt broder (dr g), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

allah ackbar, etc.
http://atlblogs.com/gosey/archives/ackbarismyhero.jpg

― pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

tuomas this thread and threads like this are exactly why the mysterious evil trolls do what they do... i mean isn't it obvious?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

He's got a point, y'know.

― Terry the Troll (Terry the Troll), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

there are people who do not contribute "well" to some threads

http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/1999/093099/O1.hitler.jpg

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

And it can also be difficult to ignore threads you don't like, because the thread title doesn't necessarily indicate what the actual content is

bullshit. if you open a thread and see that it's something you don't like, you don't have to stick around to read the thread.

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

sad that someone people need to be told this

― kurt broder (dr g), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

"this is offensive to my tender sensibilities! i'm going to read THE WHOLE THING!"

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

(The remainder of my sentence got swallowed up because I forgot you have you to be fancy when you want to say "<3ing Tom".)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for the closure chris. i was concerned

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

batshit

― amon (eman), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

bullshit. if you open a thread and see that it's something you don't like, you don't have to stick around to read the thread.

But if you've already read something that insults you, the damage is already done, whether or not you ignore the thread from that on. Like with Marcello's "Three Years" thread: some anonymous troll posted something awful there, and Marcello read it. And even if the message was deleted, even if the whole thread would've been deleted, the troll already achieved what he was out for. The ability to delete offensive posts is a bit misleading, perhaps, because it don't make those words go away from the minds of those who read them. You can't "take back" nasty comments anymore than you can you can do that in real life. I'm not saying a registered-only board would get rid of offensive comments, but at least it would give an identity to the one who's saying them. If you'd notice that insults hurled towards you are coming from a known troll, it would be easier to ignore them. And, obviously, it would be easier to ban the worst trolls.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

you know in life, sometimes you get insulted, and you just have to deal with it.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

also this

If you'd notice that insults hurled towards you are coming from a known troll, it would be easier to ignore them.

totally contradicts your point.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

Er, how?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

But if you've already read something that insults you, the damage is already done

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

what difference does it make if insults are coming from a "well-known troll" or an lesser-known troll?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

you know in life, sometimes you get insulted, and you just have to deal with it.

Yeah, but in real life most people know - or at least have to acknowledge - this thing called common decency, so no one would ever say the things people think the anonymity of the Internet entitles them to say. Or is your real life filled with people around you calling each other bitches, fatties, whores, faggots, etc?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

if it was there wouldn't really be anything i could do about it besides deal or take off!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

but i guess what i really mean to say is that as easy as it is to hurl invective w/o repercussions on the internet it is 1000x easier to ignore it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

Truollmas

― kurt broder (dr g), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

I said it's "easier to ignore", not "easy to ignore". And the difference is, that with logged-out posts you don't know who it is: is it a less-known troll or an ILX regular in a trollish mood, not having the guts to say what he wants to say with his own login name? The trolling we've seen lately suggests that it's either done by regulars or at least lurkers who've around here for quite a while.

(x-post)

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think you need a hobby, guy.

― kurt broder (dr g), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

it baffles me that anyone could be so affected by an anonymous dig (and even more so that an anonymous dig would hurt in any way MORE than one from someone who wasn't anonymous).

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

i agree that logged-out regulars who insult logged-IN regulars are pretty much a pack of losers, but isn't that so self-evident as to make their shit totally easy to dismiss?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

(xxp_

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

Mostly it can be ignored, yes, but if it's especially nasty, maybe not. Anyway, my point is that instead of ignoring it something might be done about it. It's not like getting anonymous insults is some sort fact of life - ILE hasn't always been like this.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

Multixpost:

"Yeah, but in real life most people know - or at least have to acknowledge - this thing called common decency, so no one would ever say the things people think the anonymity of the Internet entitles them to say. Or is your real life filled with people around you calling each other bitches, fatties, whores, faggots, etc?

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), September 22nd, 2005."

Oh yes, the anonymity of your heavily supported "registered only" internet.

Do you even read what you post before pressing the submit button?

Seriously, I started a thread on this to avoid cluttering the mod board, and none of the "evil trolling" contingent bothered to reply. Take it to here, if you want to keep going:

TS: Trolling vs. endless complaints about trolling

― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is taking posts out of context a personal attack? This is serious question. Because when a post is taken out of context, and combined with posts that originally had nothing to do with it, all meaning is lost. Not very fair, and misleading. Like when someone says "Hey you're a cunt" and the reply is "YOU dick!". And you only see "YOU dick." because some troll re-posts it. Seems kinda shitty. Why is ILE so in love with shitty trolls?

― JustSayin, Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

That is a good question, because lately this a been tactique trollish posters use that conveniently lets them of the hook, 'cause they can always say, "hey I was just pasting old stuff, what's wrong with that?".

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously:

TS: Trolling vs. endless complaints about trolling

― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:31 (nineteen years ago)

Is there an echo in here?

― --, Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but that thread you started is rubbish.

― --, Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well then, join in the fun over there and let me know, buckshot.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 22 September 2005 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas AS YOU WELL KNOW the Marcello situation wouldn't happen now because he'd make the thread registered users only when he started it.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 22 September 2005 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tom, you are a beacon of sanity in a board full of crazy. No sarcasm intended whatsoever. Thanks.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 22 September 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like getting anonymous insults is some sort fact of life - ILE hasn't always been like this.

ILE used to only be about 20 people, all of whom were one degree of seperation away from each other!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but it was already quite big when I came here in spring 2003, yet it was more civilized then, and for a long time after that. Yeah, there where big fights and insults hurled then too, but it was almost always between regulars, or with trolls everyone knew (Calum, mainly). I think the current wave of anonymous trolling started only this year. Even Randy/Jakc, though he was not logged in, always signed his posts with the same name.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas I love you but that is quite the revisionist history.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, am I the only one who thinks that anonymous posting and trolling in large amounts is a recent phenonemon? Because, the way I remember it, when we had trolls before almost always everyone knew who it was (like with Calum).

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

I can remember anonymous attacks on people right from the start of ilx. It makes sense that there's more of them now, because there's a lot more people that read or post to the boards now.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

fremme neppa venette
Pimp My Ride
John Cena
Dave Matthews Band
Snake/Snake 2

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ tuomas

― lolol, Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

looooooooool

― lllloooolllll, Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

i just love how the anony trolls are almost always noise dudes. oh the ironung is delish.

― renegade bums, Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I can remember anonymous attacks on people right from the start of ilx.

True enough. Quite a few directed at me, which I was always amused, bemused and confused by.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think you're all forgetting something (TM) - B*cky L*cas.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Like when someone says "Hey you're a cunt" and the reply is "YOU dick!". And you only see "YOU dick." because some troll re-posts it.

if i saw someone quoting someone else saying "YOU dick," well, i can't imagine what i would possibly infer about the original poster from that.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

i just love how the anony trolls are almost always noise dudes. oh the ironung is delish.

they are? i wonder if i'm trolling myself on ilm, then...

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE I EAT BOOGER

― hstenci1, Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

HE'S BACK

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I had blotted B*cky out of my memory. Also good old Connor "HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWL" Smedley.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

So basically the upshot seems to be that the fact that you didn't notice it doesn't mean it wasn't there, Tuomas.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

i get flamed on the mod bored. the damage has been done.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, dude who's been following Stence around has been here for what, three years now?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Quite a few directed at me, which I was always amused, bemused and confused by.

Well, yeah. I wonder how people get the impression that old ilx was some magical candyland where everyone was twee and had cuddle parties or something like that. There's always been trolling (anonymous or otherwise) and fighting, etc.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

"This is the thread where I say, 'Self-segregation warps perspective, Grasshopper.'"

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

(PS: Shouldn't you be rehearsing with T-Boz and Chili?)

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Listen, I know I had cuddle parties with the anonymous troll who posted what can only be described as "rape poetry" towards me on ILM several years back. I don't know what you people are talking about.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Being a jaded Usenet refugee vs Being twee

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, dude who's been following Stence around has been here for what, three years now?

i think there's a few now, dan. the mod bored troll ain't the guy who posts pics of me, i don't think. the damage is done. i'll never be clean/innocent again.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Having an ILX stalker is the new black! Ally's had some, Tuomas has got one, Stence has got one, I've got one! Don't you wish you were as cool as us? ;-)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I had one for half a second. I laughed at him/her and s/he went away.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

naw kate i think i've got like 3 or 4. where's your stalker? jon doesn't really count.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I've never had a stalker! Just a couple of people who logged out to call me mean. And that's just stating the obvious.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we should have a super-wang contest to see who has the most stalkers!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

no thanks.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

some people are so quick to throw around the word "stalker."

at least they arnt writing songs about you.

― huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hstencil has a super wang already..... in addition to baby blue eyes and nice hair!

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.castlechina.com/wdcc_2005_images/2005_1st_quarter/Snow%20White/wdcc_2005_mysterious_mirror_and_evil_queen.jpg

etc etc

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

THAT WASNT FUNNY THE LAST 6400 TIMES YOU POSTED IT

― AM I RIGHT?, Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Err can we not reference anything I said as "having a stalker"? I mean I'm kind of surprised at how carelessly and "humorfully" people like to throw around that word when someone, like, comes and posts a picture of a dinosaur after every post someone makes for a day or something.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I mean even as a joke, people, it's not freaking funny to reference every single time someone harrasses you a little as "stalking"

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the noize dudes were in charge of what is and isn't funny.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

why did you bother doing that?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

This is really the best thread ever.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

You think so, Dan?

― k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

This one comes close.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

[voice of streets censored purely for kicks]

― an arse, Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

if you're allowed to post pictures of a dinosaur after every post someone makes then surely they're allowed to type the word "stalker" after every dinosaur, back? or does it only count if it's the word "stalker" as an animated gif?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

in a speech bubble, spoken by a dinosaur

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

has anyone on ilx actually had problems with real dinosaurs?

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

besides nairn i guess

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

lololol

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think many ilxors are old enough to remember dinosaurs.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, mentally.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

the things i do for you guys.

here, now you can all use this fun animated gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/stalker.gif

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

thankyou ken

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

can you put some people in the gif for a nairn?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

who's to say any of you definitely have a stalker? maybe it's just one of many possible theories.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

ok, my mood is now summarily improved

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

EVERYBODY STALK THE DINOSAUR

― sobriety cassarole (blueski), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

I had a little go at stalking today! But wow, like making parody threads and trolling, it sure gets really tedious really fast. Sigh.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

nice try

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Dude! Now, you're stalking me! Go away, you comma-abusing freak!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

stop posting after every time I post

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

ken that's my favorite thing you've ever done

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, pygmy mammoths are the new dinosaurs, keep up, Ken!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

I for one welcome our new stalker dinosaur overlords.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

So why is there a Noize Board now, if the Noize Board is all over ILE?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T FEAR THE NOIZE BOARD
(hold my hand)

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Can you imagine what would happen if I started posting to the noize board? I mean, really?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I can. It isn't really much different from what happens there already.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Or on ILE.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Can you imagine what would happen if I hate adozen donuts? I mean, really?

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

how could you hate a dozen donuts. i mean, really.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

if i had a dozen donuts i'd share 'em with all of you.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

awww

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

rough day at the office?

― rough day, Friday, 23 September 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

R U ALL MENTALIST BUT GO EASY ON THE NOIZE PPLE THEY HAVE LESS TO WORK WITH

― SPARTACUS TWATTERY (I AM LOGGED ON), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

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