THE COUNTDOWN IS OVER! INFINITE CRISIS IS HERE! (Spoilers obv)

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Not really. I mean we've yet to see the last chapter of Villains United, and fuckityfuck if Infinite Crisis #1 isn't just gonna be a warm up for the REAL INFINITE CRISIS #1 COMING IN JUNE 2008!!!
BUT, I'm just about sick of it after being initially GONZO ENERGIZED CRISIS MODE IMPERION REX back around, oh, March 30th, or something. But, y'know, here we go. Worlds will live, worlds will die, Marv Wolfman will cash another royalty cheque.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Marv Wolfman will cash another royalty cheque.

At least someone's getting something good out of this.

OMG SO BITTER

ILC Biggest Identity Infinity Crisisy Fan (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

My lord, Superhero comics are so nonsensicle when you haven't been keeping up with them for a while.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

I haven't been reading any Crisis-related stuff, but I suspect that it would be non-sensicle even I did.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

My enthusiasm for the Showcase Presents series has totally usurped any interest in current storylines.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm turning into one of those guys who only listens to 60s music, only with comics. "Back then it was pure, maaaaaaan. It was about something. It was about the Table of the Elements."

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

The New Anti-Monitor revealed...
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/173/3313/1024/Jack-Klugman-is-Deep-Throat.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

It makes me feel too growed up. There's a reference to Earth-2 in the Donna Troi mini -- 10 years ago, I'd have been excited for days! Months! Etc. But now I'm just like, "Oh, that's interesting...."

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 8 October 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

...but Christ, you really have to be a DC nerd to actually groove on
this stuff. I mean... Donna Troy is the 2nd most popular comic in Forbidden Planet this week! How many DC nerds must there be out there? (More than I always thought, I guess.)

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 8 October 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

Clean-up on Aisle CRISIS! I repeat: Clean-up on Aisle CRISIS!

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 8 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

So both the OMAC project and Day Of Vengeance are "Changes SO MASSIVE you won't believe them!"?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 8 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

TS: INFINITE CRISES vs. SEVEN SOLDIERS!

Fite!

My money's on Morrison in this matchup. He's wiry, he's aerodynamic and sleek, and there's been more insight in just about any single issue of SEVEN SOLDIERS than there has been in all of the IC fooferall that's been printed to date.

But maybe that's just me.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 9 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

He has the advantage that he's not trying to change the world forever.

I read the Sacrifice story (3 Superman issues, one Wonder Woman) which came between OMAC 3 and 4.

SPOILER

They're the issues where Maxwell Lord fucks with Superman's head so that he beats the crap out of Batman, later the whole JLA. Then Wonder Woman goes toe-to-toe with Superman, and kills Maxwell Lord with the necksnappy.

SPOILER

They're quite well written in so far as if you hadn't read OMAC, you would get a great sense of unease as it became clear that what Superman thought was happening wasn't what was happening. Am I right in thinking that there isn't really a separate Action title, that people picking it up and hoping to have any grasp of the story will have to read the others? And what was happening in the Batman comics at this time?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 9 October 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Does WW actually kill Max Lord? Or does he make her do it because of his super-nosebleed powahs? (The last thing he says is to her is "Kill Me." Does that me he's accidentally telling her to do it? And if so, should it be followed by a panel of him saying 'Doh!'?)

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 9 October 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

I was wondering jus that yesterday. Are you allowed act or talk of your own volition with the lasso on?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

I liked the idea of it when it was just "tiny footprints" plus OMAC etc etc, but now they are tying it into the original Crisis, which I know very little about, and it is annoying - like, Pariah appears and I am supposed to go "gasp! it's all coming together!" but instead I go "eh?" ditto with whatever is going on with Donna Troi and the Psycho Pirate and Power girl etc.

Mark C (Markco), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

...the point of Infinite Crisis is to give readers from six to 60 a complete experience without bogging them down with heavy continuity or the need to be a lifelong comic-book aficionado.

Hmmmmmmmmmm............

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

What the hell? It reads like a one-sheet!

While most publishers dread the next crisis, DC Comics spent the past two years planning one. Infinite Crisis, launching on october 12, stands as DC Comics's biggest, most-aggressive venture in 20 years. The seven-issue tale - penned by Geoff Johns, arguably the best superhero writer in the genre, and featuring art by Phil Jimenez, one of sequential art's most prolific and well-respected artists - will streamline the DC universe of heroes, villains, and stories, redefine the publisher's most well-known characters, and serve as a jumping-on point for new readers.

START THAT ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

These villains have to be real threats. They've got to be as tough as the heroes are, or tougher, because that makes our heroes stronger.

Is there a petition we can sign, to get him to stop writing comics?

xpost - it's not going to be a real long argument :)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

To address previous posts:

Matt Mr. Published Funny Book Writer Sir: plz don't establish strawdood slapfights, esp. when you know folks here are either gonna go for A) SS or B) neither.

Andrew: the main Batbook is kinda knee-deep in the IC hoopla, tho not directly so; mostly, it's da betrayed Bat going "OMG JASON TODD!?!?!" while holding tweezers and/or getting kicked around by OMG JASON TODD?!?!?

And, um, could you (or someone else) plz clarify what yous meant by: "Am I right in thinking that there isn't really a separate Action title, that people picking it up and hoping to have any grasp of the story will have to read the others?" Because there is a separate Action title, and I just assumed that folks would need to read the other parts to understand what was happening. (That goes more for folks reading Return Of The OMAC than folks reading the 4-parter between Supes & Wonder Wrowrman.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I meant "Can you (apart from Sacrifice) just read Action Comics? Does it have storylines that only appear in that comic?" I got the impression from somewhere that it doesn't, or didn't. The parenthetical bit is the important one, which is why I completely left it out.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh oh oh!

Yes, you can! Tho I haven't tried it so much. It's defintely the best of the Supes books, tho. Best Supes / Lois characterization this side of Warren Ellis' story in Justice League Classified. Even if John Byrne seems to be drawing Lois and Jimmy a bit ... oddly. Be warned: Ms. Simone seems to be taking a few months off. (The Abnett / Lanning folks seems to be hoping on board in the meantime.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Why is Jimmy 15 again? Wasn't he the Vice-Prezdnt or something?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 10 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Pete Ross is the veep. Jimmy's a reporter / photographer. And, depending on who's drawing him, he's either 12 or 28.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Isn't Pete Ross also A BIG VILLAIN now?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

That's still in committee. Everyone but Supes is for it. (BTW, Pete Ross' supposed villain name = RUIN.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Well, I've spent my evening ploughing through the whole lot so far (barring IC #1 and VI #6) and by god there's a lot of drivel there. High point is probably the villain stuff and Supes going mad, then snapping out of it in time to have a massive self-righteous huff.

Low points: (SPOILERRRRRS)
Incoherent six-issue magic-fest. What? Eh? And it doesn't end?
Incredibly dull space balls. Which doesn't end.
OMAC has an ending that makes even less sense than no sense - in fact it falls over about when one of the characters turns into an endlessly winking version of that computer woman from Superman III.

AND OF COURSE EVERYONE IS EITHER MASSIVELY INCOMPETENT OR A DICK.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Monday, 10 October 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

I quite liked Day of Vengeance but agree; it didn't so much end as stop.

OMAC not only has an army of killer robots, it also has mad PR skillz!! gasp!

I just know they are leading up to Wonder Woman dying so (a) she is "punished" for killing Max, (b) they can do a version of the Superman/Dead Supergirl "Nooooo!!1!11!!" cover from Original Crisis, (c) Batman and Superman will go "doh, we treated her like a dick but she was a TRUE HERO and so now we are inspired to kick some arse, oh yes." and (d) with Donna Troi back there are now three Wonder Wenches running round - too many! one must die!

Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

WW totally was not a true hero. She was the dumbest hero ever. Proper protocol in that situation is to stick Max in the Phantom Zone until you can find out WHO IS CONTROLLING HIS MIND. Like, you remember, how someone was controlling his mind THE LAST TIME HE WENT EVIL. Because big-time masterminds always stick themselves in situations where they can get their necks snapped for propaganda purposes.

I firmly believe Batman is all 'get out, ho' to her because he can't abide stupid people.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Then why did he form the Outsiders?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

He can abide people who are stupid in the costume sense.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Was it a typo or, y'know, just blunt honesty that that Boston Phoenix article only recommends the first 6 issues of Identity Crisis?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Dave Gibbons sells out Kyle Rayner at Newsrama in Rann Thanagar War post-mortem interview:

And there’s one more Green Lantern-related bit that I can add with certainty is that, in the future, Kyle will not be saying, “Great Guardians!” I read someone’s explanation as to why Kyle said that after the last interview I did here, where someone suggested that “Great Guardians!” was the power ring’s way of covering up profanity. After all, they’re Green Lanterns, so they can’t be going around the galaxy cursing in their own tongue, or the native tongue of the sector they’re in.

I liked it when Kyle said "Great Guardians!"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

ACK!

OMAC has taken over the Geoff Johns msg bds!


The Clock is ON.


CLOSED UNTIL INFINITE CRISIS #1 HITS TOMORROW - DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, RESIST IT, STAY OFF THE INTERNET UNTIL YOU READ #1 TOMORROW! GO HANG OUT WITH FRIENDS OR FAMILY FOR THE NIGHT!
(or better yet go play Halo or World of Warcraft)

HERE'S TO MAKING WEDNESDAYS FUN.

BEST,
EVERYONE AT THE COMIC BLOC

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

See, now here's the thing that sorta rubs salt in my eyes about this whole thing. The Infinite Crisis woo-ha has indeed made Wednesdays fun. But not Thursdays or Fridays.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Today's the day!
Though, really, the big whoop-de-doo didn't start happening in the first Crisis until about #7, so today will just be more teasery.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I caved and bought it.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh oh, which cover?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

SPOILER****

Batman gets hid back broken by Bane!!!

SPOILER***

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh jesus fucking fuck. I just looked at the "real" cover of InfCri#2. I'm so stupid.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I like how you put "real" in brackets, as if you somehow KNOW that when it actually hits the newsstands Beppo the supermonkey will be standing there with [AS IF WE HADN'T GUESSED]

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

There's still plenty of empty space on that cover.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I bought the George Perez cover because it looked better than the Jim Lee cover.

Mild spoiler that gives away the tone of the entire comic -

Superman to Wonder Woman: "I just don't know who you are anymore!"

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh she's so dead.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Out of curiousity, didn't they want to make people excited about the characters again? If that's the case, why would they elect to make Superman EVEN MORE of a sanctimonious douchebag?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

The hints seem to be that they are being dicks now but will be un-dicks by the end of #7.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh, he's so dead.

Though, y'know, ah, SPOILER, I guess. If they're bringing back Multple Supermans For Realz, that's I don't know, shitty, because the idea, as I understood it, behind the original Crisis on Superfluous Earths was to, you know, make sure that the characters were SPECIAL. Like, oh, there's 50 Supermanses running/flying/leaping around? So what's the big deal, then? Oh, there's only one, and he's the honest-to-gosh ONLY survivor of Krypton? Okay, now he is A STRANGE VISITOR FROM ANOTHER PLANET.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

It never hurt Supergirl, or Wondergirl, or Hawkgirlman!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

(This is a lie)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

It's just practical and answers the needs of the writers and the market. It's not like every story will have every Krytonian in it, the reader can suspend some disbelief. And either way, both fans and presumably the regular people living in the DC Universe feel like superheroes are fairly mundane, so it's more about history and actions defining the character's stature, not so much how unique they are.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Also, Superman was way more popular back when there were loads of other Kryptonians running around! People dig that aspect of the Superman mythos, and obvs not the way it's been since the Crisis.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

NEW YORK TIMES PHEARS THE CRISIS!
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/12/books/12dc.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1129118823-ry0Fq9OBpc4XgYHtCZAFtw

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

argh: Mr. Rucka agreed: "When they're saying 'it's too dark,' they're saying, 'I'm scared.' "

dave k, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

"When they're saying 'it's too dark,' it means TIME TO CHANGE THE LIGHTBULB!" RED SUNS FOR EVERYONE!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Okay, here's my prediction for Post-IC Flash. BART ALLEN will be the Flash, not because Wally bites it, but because he decides to hang up les bottines and be a stay-at-home dad to his super-speedy babies who will grow up real fast and be Flashers by next Christmas.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I love how that article provides one page of the double page spread with just the word INFINITE. It looks really design-ey on its own like that. They should have had the last page of the book with the word CRISIS at the bottom.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Okay, this was sorta fun, and ooh ahh, pretty pictures, etc. And the pacing is pretty cool. I'M A FANBOY.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

I really hate that NY Times article because it's so fawning and uncritical of the DC line - why does it never have anyone mention that it's arguably totally UNsophisticated? It reads like a glorified press release.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 13 October 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

Okay, here's my prediction for Post-IC Flash. BART ALLEN will be the Flash, not because Wally bites it, but because he decides to hang up les bottines and be a stay-at-home dad to his super-speedy babies who will grow up real fast and be Flashers by next Christmas.

R1ch J0hnst0n disagrees in this weeks LitG. Somebody pointed out (it might have been on here, I can't remember) that prior to the last Crisis, Barry Allen had all his affairs put in order in the last issue by the ongoing writer of Flash, with a fill-in handling the issues during the Crisis. And what's just happened to Wally?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

How old is Goeff Johns, that Kingdom Come had such a formative effect?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Kingdom Come having formative effect on writers = Worst Fear Come True

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Alexander Luthor is a gimp.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

He was dressing for the Godspell crowd.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Seriously though this is the problem with doing a sequel to Crisis, it sounds great OMG SEQUEL TO CRISIS WORLDS WILL LIVE, but the raw material you've been left with isn't exactly character gold - school swot Kid Luthor, old Aunt May stle Lois, the Anti-Monitor who ended up in the rubbest costume in rubland and Superboy of Earth-Prime, be still my beating heart. And then suddenly you remember that Crisis wasn't all that good.

Though it did kickstart DC's most fertile creative period in my reading lifetime so fingers crossed eh?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

David R - 1) It ain't published yet (my funnybook that is). 2) TS threads are a tried and true method of entertainment, one-sided or not. 3) Universe-spanning crossovers are best compared with universe-spanning crossovers. 4) Completely right about the quality of Action Comics right now.

As for IC! (as opposed to just plain IC being Identity Crisis - figure the exclamation appropriately conveys the excitement and gravity they're shooting for), it's just not all that good. It's not particularly terrible (though who the hell needs to ever see grim and gritty Bizarro ever in their lifetime?) Thing is, anyone who read the original Crisis knew what was going on by page 2, though perhaps not *why* it was going down that way, and had probably been waiting for it since 1985.

But there's not a lot of wonder or excitement in it for me, as opposed to the other DC crossover which has shown a lot of insight into the characters and has made me say "Wow! Neat!" at least once an issue. Though I have to admit, it's a tad uneven. Maybe more than a tad in spots.

Finally. Perez cover sooo much better than the Jim Lee cover.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

I didn't get to choose a cover. My comic shop gave me the Lee. I think that means THEY HATE ME.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

They only had Byrnes at my shop... phew

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

duh I mean Perez

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I thought you were making a funny.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

myaybe my subconscious was....

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I just want to point out that I am familiar with the characters and situations presented in this comic, but the structure was still totally incoherant. Did anything even really happen? I mean, obviously stuff happened, but it seemed totally disjointed and had no drama at all.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

But that final page, Matthew!

WHITE TEMPLES ARE BACK, YO!

(I love that the writers who keep saying they're doing this to return the DCU back to the light are the ones making the current DCU more miserable than it has ever been. I mean, Asshole Batman: "Oh Superman, you never inspired anyone since Doomsday put you in the whole" - at a minimum, there, Bruce, ignoring Grant's whole JLA run…)

carson dial (carson dial), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

THIS IS WHY THEY HAD TO GET RID OF HAL JORDAN'S WHITEWALLS!!! Cuz otherwise, everybody would think he was from EARTH-2!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Nerdsarama breaks it all down (maybe, haven't read the article yet):
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=261f5541049a19adbbcbd3be9b080562&threadid=46268

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

OH GOD THIS IS THE END OF SUPERHERO COMICS FOR GROWN-UPS!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

i loved this - very funny stuff!

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

maybe one of the spare Superboys will end up in the future in the LSH!

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh please, let's not do that! Legion is the only good DC Comic, there's no need to drag it down in the DCU muck.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Waid and Johns have both iterated that LOSH will be IC-FREE. They're both dirty liars, howev.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

They're lying liars, too.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

FWIW: I trudged through the final issues of both The Rann / Thangarian Telegraph Pole CRISIS and Villains United Against Themselves CRISIS, and was disappointed & chagrined enough that I couldn't be bothered with flipping through INFINITE CRISIS (w/ the George Perez cover BWAH HAH HAH) just yet. An ever-so-brief moment of neatness occurred when someone Zeta-beamed that big guy into 7 different places, but then it was back to the war crap, and WHAT EV ER.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

You didn't like Villains United? I thought that except for the fact that nobody really seemed to badly out of shape despite MULTIPLE GUNSHOT WOUNDS TO THE FUCKING CHEST FUCKERS, it was pretty good.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I was in a mood. The art was mehing me, and I really wasn't feeling all the "you're my child!" / "you're my father!" / "I ATE YOUR BABY" shit.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Nerdsarama bends over backward to lead the way with stunningly uncritical (and factually questionable) Infantile Crybaby coverage: http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=a76645c20c3222a157647a4bac453470&threadid=46414

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

What's sorta, I don't know, either terribly gauche or admirably brazen about the Johnsification of the DCU is that it's being imposed from within. It's a manufactured mandate.
Lemme see if I can make this make sense. Usually trends in superheros/comix/pop culture in general, I guess are in some way reflective of the world around them.
Okay, original superheroes, in the 30s were responses to the Depression. Superman protected the innocent and vulnerable. Batman patrolled the frighteningly large and anonymous cities, which were growing at the time as country folks were leaving failing farms and such.
With WWII, superheros became increasingly patriotic, a la Captain America, and paternal. This continued into the early 50s, and probably played a role in why the kids didn't care so much about them.
Then mid-50s, with Martian Manhunter, the Flash, and Green Lantern, science fiction heroes came to the forefront, eventually peaking with the Fantastic Four. Dude, the Space Race. Awesome. America can do it. Etc.
Spider-Man and the X-Men coincided with the Beatles, and the Whoop-De-Doo TEEN POWER+TEEN RESPONISIBILITY=ANGST, etc. The idea of superhero as "other" as America fights itself over whether or not it should be fighting other "OTHERS". The quest for an identity etc. Also at this time, though, the Hulk and Metamorpho the Element Man wondered if SCIENCE was actually our FRIEND.
The seventies continued on this, with va va voom psychedelics starring Jack Kirby in the role of Grace Slick. Superman and Green Lantern, courtesy Neal Adams covers, seemed constantly plagued by caricatures of ACTUAL SOCIAL DILEMMAS.

By the time the Original Crisis was over, whatever ACTUAL relevance it may have promised was forgotten in the wake of Alan Moore and Frank Miller, whose Superhero COLD WAR EPICS cast long shadows over capes and tights. Stallone and Bronson (not to mention Travis Bickle) begot Wolverine and Punisher and ANTI HEROES WERE HEROES, which is pretty much the story of superheroing for the next 15 years.

Identity Crisis and its immediate aftermath, for all its amazingly poor scripting (seriously, I'll frigging annotate it sometime), reflected the current age of cynicism and mistrust of authority. "You mean good guys played dirty tricks and probably made the bad guys even more evil and vengeful?"

The iterated intent of Infinite Crisis is supposedly to establish a new era of heroism, and possibly even (as claimed by a Nerdsarama nerditorial) set an example!!! "Batman will stop being a dick" says Mark Waid. B-b-but if at his Adam West most whitebread, Batman MUST be a dick! He's earned it! HE'S DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO BEING A DICK WHO HATES CRIME!

from nerdsarama:
Just as much as I’d love to see a return of wonder and weekly excitement in the world of comics, I’d love to see a return to a time when fans could just stop, smile at one another, and remember exactly why we’re fans. This moment, this acknowledgement that a medium we love is still strong after 70 years, should be a celebration. And if we could take five minutes to remember why comics are special to us, rather than why this or that thing has let us down again, I think our level of discourse would rise. I want the fan community to be a community of friends who sometimes disagree, and less a community of antagonists who sometimes get along. If that seems naïve or old-fashioned, so be it. Sometimes, it’s good to remember what came before, or what came first, just so we can also remember why we came here in the first place: our love of the boundless possibilities of comics.

MEANWHILE...
THE ORIGINAL SUPERMAN IS BACK TO SHOW US WHAT TO DO??? What kind of Reaganist antihistory antireality BS is this? Are mainstream comics making their final ULTIMATE withdrawal from relavance?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Read on the night bus on the way home from the Poptimism. It's good! Or, at least, the art is gorgeous, especially the sweet double page spreads. The second issue will of course suck.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, what is this whole meme about "remembering why are fans, let's all be pals and talk about Hal Jordan"? Am I wrong in thinking that this is more rooted in optimistic fantasy rather than nostalgia?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

(xxpost)
I guess you could tie the new stuff in with some post-post-modern distrust of theory and subjective discourse, begatting a return to the "old fashioned" values of pure storytelling and heroism -- but just mentioning these sorts of things make me flash back to my Eng Lit degree, and no one wants to go there.

The new DCU is just going to be a whitewashed, puny granola version of GM's JLA comics, isn't it?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Does nobody else get the idea that Earth-2 Superman's intervention is going to make things worse, & that whispering-in-ear Alex Luthor is TEH VILLIAN?

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

The woman on the last page was Earth-2 Lois, right? I really hope she gets to hold court on stuff and bore the pants off everyone. Or else get an issue's worth of yellow narration boxes so we can discover how great Starfire is at differential calculus.

And, yeah, it was "cool", and it made me slap my head. All the carnage looks nice, at least. And it's really too bad (cough) that Harbinger was offed in that awful Supergirl arc of Superman / Batdick, as I'm really hoping for a heartwarming CRISIS reunion.

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 15 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Well, I caved in and bought this and good god it was awful. The dialogue is even more leadenly horrible than the first Crisis, which is saying something.

I was expecting something cool! The return of Classic Socialist Flavour Supes to save the day. I wasn't expecting Godspell Luthor, Aged Pillbox Hat Lois and the bloody Superboy of Earth Prime.

Old Lois is going to give a huge lecture on the TRUE MEANING of what it MEANS to BE the GIRLFRIEND of a HERO ie do your damnedest to inveigle your boif into marriage while at the same time using every dirty trick you know to expose all his deepest secrets to the world and having a string of Britney-style five-minute failed marriages with villains.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

it would be so great if the old lois is still as batty as ever and tries to knock off lana lang or something; I don't see how anyone who hasn't read the original crisis is supposed to feel psyched about this

dave k, Saturday, 15 October 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

No doubt, Dave! Anyone that gives a rat's ass about that last page that doesn't know the 20 year old backstory is either more of a fan than any of us will ever be, or just, y'know, special. Huk-L OTM re: this being the prostate continuity exam to end all prostate continuity exams.

Maybe DC's giving Ye Olde Fans one more Happy Ending before they lock the doors, change the number and start catering to the New Breed. Or maybe that's just Wishful Thinking.

If someone can explain what all the hootey was in the DC Crisis: Return of Mr. Hotness Donna Troy re: Ms. Troy's 15 other lives and her being HARBINGER and the Anti-Monitor's HARBINGER and Phil J's game attempt to consolidate all that handjive into something that's worth a fnart, I'll kill you.

I'll be donating $24 for the remaining 6 issues so 1) Phil J. gets on Wizard's Top 10 and 2) I can continue to hate myself.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 16 October 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Now I am thinking about discontinuous prostrates.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 16 October 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)

Er, prostates. I'm really trying not to think about, actually.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 16 October 2005 05:30 (twenty years ago)

The role of Anti-Monitor will be played by the goatse rectum.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 16 October 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

I noticed that the final page is "after Garcia-Lopez and Giordano" - would any of you care to show me the original image?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 16 October 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

"So what you're saying, Spectre, is that our universe has cancer of the cosmic colon?"

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Sunday, 16 October 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Do model train enthusiasts ever get bent out of shape that Model Train manufacturers pander to the only people who buy/care about model trains?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 16 October 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which...is it possible that Black Lois is lurking around somewhere in the Infinite Crisisphere? Cuz that would totally redeem it for me.
(i'm actually pretty okay with IC, and will probably follow 52 all the way through, but, y'know, the Nerdsarama droolage is embarrassing)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 16 October 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I think that Tom is totally OTM. This isn't going to be HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY Superman, but GONNA MESS STUFF UP IN MY RIGHTEOUS ANGER Superman.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

But does Earth-2 (shouldn't he really be called Krypton-2) Superman even have Heat Vision (aka "anger")?
I thought he could only throw cars around and stuff.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Can we responsibly assume at this point that the fellow in the red cape who saved J'Onn from the explodering Watchtower (JEHOVAHS WITNESS LEAGUE OF AMERICA!!!) was Earth-2 Superman? Because, y'know, he didn't BREAK FREE from limbo or whatever until long after the Watchtower explodered.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

i thought earth-2 superman started out just leaping buildings but eventually became 'whatever powers the writer decides this issue' ie. time travelling, etc. ie. the most powerful supe eventually (or is that silver age? is the current supe a dejuiced silver age supe? aw fuck - do i need to read that newsarama article again? earth-2 superman = grey hair right?) in any case old guy supe wasn't at the watchtower - he didn't break on thru to the other side until he figure out just how big a puss this supe is and got over any hangups he had about wanting to fuck his daughter/cousin/clone powergirl. it does seem possible that whoever had the red cape (i read spec that that's powergirl; i know shit about powergirl so right now any questions i have about ic you can throw back 'powergirl' as a response and i'll go 'totally - but of course!') didn't destroy the watchtower, they just rescued j'0nn, and the reason he went 'O NOES! NOTS YOU!' wasn't cuz of 'o shit - matches!' but becuz he recognized A CRISIS WAS COMING. anyhow i hear pig iron avenges the human bomb (how grisly was that btw?) in #3.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

POWERGIRL!!!

I just read spec that the RED CAPED (which, yeah, considering JLA #120, was a rescuer, not a blowderupper) is the Superman from whatever dimension/plane/EATHR/RKOYPTN that the Other Luthor (from Vills U.) is from, since, y'know, the Earth-2 Luthor was demonstrably killderized in the O.C.
My guess is that all these EXTRA FOLKS is from that place where Donna Troy was the Dark Angel or whatever. I think it was Earth-5.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

ILCster Douglas has a nice blog post about the good & bad re: IC #1.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

I still quite liked it. I mean, it's "entertaining rubbish" to quote Tom's phrase about something else, but I liked it, I really did. As Douglas mentions, there's something quite impressive about how they've managed to build up all these tangential stories, over years and years of comics (well, at least two) and then have them all explode all at once. And the art's quite lovely and epic: so far, no Identity Crisis Sad Face.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

surely the question is whether these all-exploding-at-once stories can be linked in any vaguely cohesive or at least interesting question

(and surely the answer is "no")

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

(aw who'm'i kidding, i spent four hours reading all this crap last night)

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

("interesting fasion" not question. bah)

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

RUCKA:
http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=004310

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Countdown the Flash movie:
http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/272710

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 21 October 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

George Perez cover for IC#2
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/IC02Perez.htm

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

infinite cris-ASS is more like it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

what a weird-loooking bum she has.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, there's something not quite right about it.

So is Infinite Crisis really just a big excuse for Geoff Johns to make a major story for his superhero crush?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

No, no, the Red Tornado maxi-series will pick up 52.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

THE WOLFMAN SPEAKS: AROOOOOO
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6101

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Blade TV show?

Oy.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I would have thought Power Girl would have a better butt than that. Although why would she bother keeping it in shape, it's not as if she's expecting anyone to be looking there.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Maybe she would take better care of it if she had a big hole in her costume there!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

avengerfan: Marv, with 20/20 hindsight-- what would you change about your "Crisis" experience?
marvw: I would shoot all the other editors so I could have done the ending of the story the way I originally planned it-- with nobody remembering the Crisis at all and all DC comics beginning with number one the next month.

Wolfman OTM!

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

Not sure if the shooting thing is OTM.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Gail Simone: Hiring you to consult for the upcoming "Crisis" was one of the smartest things DC could do. I still think the original "Crisis On Infinite Earths" stands as the best superhero crossover ever.
marvw: Thanks, Gail. I would love to do regular stuff for DC, primarily editorial, even more than writing. I could be of better use. But alas, I don't see anyone else thinking
Gail Simone: I think that!

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Wolfman continues to speak re: Crisis!
http://www.newsarama.com/images/interviews/2005/wolfman/WolfmanCatchup.htm

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.newsarama.com/images/interviews/2005/wolfman/marv.gif
AROOOOOOO!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

According to DC's "Crisis Counselling":
Wonder Woman pled not guilty to a charge of homicide in the first degree, but was still subjected to confinement in a detention facility by the Hague tribunal!

But didn't Brother Eye destroy the secret Checkmate Castle and everything in it? Ergo: corpus delicti?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Snuff film FTW!

Of course the "had to kill him or he'd Mind Control Superman" argument was rejected by the US Supreme Court in 1988's RED WRANGLER vs STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA case, but scholars seem to think that precedent is about ripe to be overturned.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Luthor stack SCOTUS with anti-vigilanteists like Brainiac, G. Gordon Godfrey, and Titano?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

For realz, though, wasn't Black Lightning in the Preznit Luthor cabinet?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Google sez Secretary of Education.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

PRESIDENT LEX!!!!

The failure of the Injustice Gang and the Gotham City experiments did nothing to daunt Luthor's ambition. He redoubled his activities in Metropolis where he was transforming one of the run down suburbs into the "Hyper Sector", a high tech wonderland where Lexcorp ran everything. He even bought the Daily Planet and moved it into the Hyper Sector as an online news provider called Lexcom. But he eventually grew tired of that particular venture and agreed to sell the Daily Planet back to Perry White for a single dollar. The deal was brokered by Lois Lane, with the secret condition that she would kill one future story of his choosing.

Shortly afterwards Metropolis was transformed by the B13 virus. It was only defeated when Superman managed to trap B13 inside a knockoff Warsuit that Luthor had constructed. But B13 managed to escape by making a Faustian bargain with Luthor. Lex agreed to free B13 and to handover Brainiac 2.5 (who was possessing the body of Lena) and in exchange Luthor kept the future city and its entire technological specification. Privately Luthor grieved the loss of his daughter, but he had gained something far more important - power! The futuristic B13 technology was now the sole preserve of Lexcorp. It promised to revolutionise almost every aspect of day to day life and sent Luthor's personal rocketing.

Calculated public used of B13 resources and staged assassination attempts pushed Luthor's public profile to an all time high. He used the wave of popularity to announce his intention to run for the Presidency of the United States and surprised many when he choose Senator Pete Ross as his running mate. Ross was a salt of the Earth family man and had exactly the type of wholesome image that Luthor needed to project to middle America. Ironically Ross's wife, Lana, had once been kidnapped and tortured by Lexcorp operatives who were trying to discover her connection with Superman (Pete and Lana had been the high-school friends of Clark Kent).

Luthor won the election by a landslide and immediately began enacting his campaign promises. He formerly recognised the nation of Atlantis and agreed increased government backing for the Justice League. Luthor chose a populist cabinet that included General Sam Lane (Secretary for Defence), Amanda Waller (Secretary of Metahuman affairs), Jefferson Peirce (alias Black Lightning, Secretary of Education), General Frank Rock (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs) and Cat Grant (Press Liaison). To avoid any complications with Lexcorp Luthor stepped down and appointed Talia Head as the interim CEO.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/who/who-intro.php?topic=luthors-cabinet

xpost

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm disappointed Swamp Thing wasn't made Secretary of the Interior.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

WAIT A SECOND

FRANK ROCK = SGT. ROCK?!?!??!

WTF

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I didn't finish my previous post:

NO WAY!!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Right: didn't Robert Kanigher once say that Sgt. Rock was killed by the final bullet fired in WWII? That makes much more dramatic/emotional sense. Plus he'd be like 98 years old now.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

General Rock was formed by a splattered piece of Sgt. Rock's DNA that was encrusted on the bullet what killed him and went straight through Rock's body and into a giant N4zi revivivivication machine that the USA stole and built NASA out of. The General Rock DNA bit was accidentally exposed to the Orb of Ra, and gave Nu-Rock the FREAKISH ability to be the most dullest character in the snoozefest otherwise known as The Outsiders.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

OMG, they're going to kill Animal Man!
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/issue-2/IC02Pre.htm

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to pretend you didn't just say that.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I re-read Zero Hour at the weekend. This has been helpful in that a) it makes Infinite Crisis look like Watchmen and b) NEVER TRUST A GUY WITH WHITE TEMPLES.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

It's the new DC formula, David - all happy heroes from beloved comic runs of the late 80s/early 90s must have their wives and children raped and murdered before getting disemboweled themselves.

Just like in real life!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

What happened to the Flash in Zero Hour? He fucking dies in the first issue (#4) and then Jay Garrick says something like, "WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE ME? I'M AN OLD MAN!" in a later issue, and then, um, no mention of the Flash ever again?
Did Flash's Zero Hour death get wiped from history when they restarted time in the last issue?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

It's the new DC formula, David - all happy heroes from beloved comic runs of the late 80s/early 90s must have their wives and children raped and murdered before getting disemboweled themselves.

but animal man's wife and children were murdered in the original "happy" run!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Zing!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Animal Man "die" at some point as well, and then came back in the form of a bear?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

was he called animal bear?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

incidentally i feel that correcting somebody on a point of comix trivia represents a new stage in my recently-reborn comic fandom.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

slocki, you've arrived, baby!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

i feel FABULOUS.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

i don't think flash actually died in zero hour, he just did some kind of speed-force-time-slippy thing, which i think ends up letting him cheer up a younger version of him... this then led into the terminal velocity storyline... jay garrick was just mugging for the camera. god, zero hour was awful, although i remember there was a nice story with two versions of robin interacting with each other and ditto with two superboys.

dave k, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

thank you!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

ONE MORE DAY until Gorilla Grodd takes over America! Again!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Why does Gorilla Grodd never want to take over Canada?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

He's scared of Maximus Moose?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

there should be a follow-up to this called INTIMATE CRISIS.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Huk, post the Fearsome Five sex pix, would you?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

There's no way I'm putting a "I" in front of this url: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/ewwww.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but the wife and kids came back, obvs!

Anyway, just thumbed through Infinite Crisis #2 - spoiler - so the idea is to bring back the nice old DC? Ha ha, let's see how long that lasts before some genius has Lana Lang gang raped by the Villains United when the sales dip in '07.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

As if RAPE! is the go-to quick-fix for DC now! Sheesh - have one character's wife raped, and suddenly everyone is just tossing the word around.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

First Post-InfCri series: The Startling Adventures of The Marquis of Queensbury, written by Ed McGuinness, drawn by Geoff Johns, TMQ travels the DCU making sure everybody fights clean.
CATCHPHRASE: "Tut, tut."

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

BTW: I don't want to be all DOUGLAS DOUGLAS DOUGLAS today, but he recently gave Identity Crisis a stern kick in the keister over here.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Matthew you are part of the world of DARK CYNICISM which old Superman is going to come and PUNCH IN THE FACE.

When I was reading comics in the late 80s I remember being a bit disturbed by the way 'sexual threat to female character' was a shorthand way of establishing a dark situation. I particularly remember the first Genosha story where Rogue lost her powers and got molested, and the story where Kraven shoots Spiderman and there's a long almost-rape sequence with Mary Jane and some thugs in a dark alley, actually dark-alley threatened-rape sequences were an 80s stock in trade.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

I love you, Douglas.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Is it better that these sexual threats were glossed over like that (via insinuations and timely scene changes), or is it better that they're actually made explicit (like in Ye Olde IC)? (Ha - "better".)

Just a though (not sure if I agree w/ it or not): Douglas suggests that BM & IC view the idea of heroism as a played-out trope, but maybe it's not heroism itself that IC is pissing on, but all the tropes that surround & typify superheroism & spandex exploits - the 'sexual threat to female character', the unresolved conflicts w/ regular nemeses, the conveniently unexploited threats to loved ones by these nemeses, all the implicit mores and "rules" that were established when these characters were created 70+ years ago - that BM & IC are attempting to deflate. Or, um, inflate and exploit to a disturbing degree.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Douglas is so very OTM in that Identity Crisis review.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

There's no way I'm putting a "I" in front of this url: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/ewwww.jpg

Whoa whoa whoaaaaa! Is this for real? What is the context for this? Is this actually from a recent DC comic?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

Yup, that's from Outsiders #30, which came out last week. After the Spectre killed the wizard Shazam (or maybe just before, who can remember?) he released the SEVEN DEADLY SINS!!! (which the wizard Shazam had locked up eons ago) Captain Marvel badguy Sabbac (the dude with the horns) then claimed them for his own, and thus has the power to overwhelm folks with whichever Deadly Sin he chooses. Lust seems to be his favourite. Sick stuff.

Anyway, re: I!C #2, GREAT SHADES OF ZERO HOUR IN THE MORNING!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh my lord. I can't believe DC published a mainstream comic (obstensibly for children!) with the phrase "banging his sister" and "having the gay sex." That's a new low!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

Blame Winnick!!!!.

Just read IC!#2. Am I the only one who finds the direction the event is taking incredibly reactionary?. I find Golden Age Superman a patronising dick who only wants to go back to the "good old days". And that is what "being a hero" means???. I should be happy with the prospect of DC recognising the-rape-and-death-of-innocent-characters as something bad and innecesary, but all the seriousness and the self righteous anger just turn me completely off. Shouldn't comics be fun?.

Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Ye Olde Superman is a total prick. I found it especially disturbing that for all the horrible things that would go on in the world no matter what, the only thing that concerned him was the behavior of the superheroes, who apparently should never adapt to drastic situations and should only have good things happen to them.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

But yeah, "reactionary" is definitely the word to describe this project. Since Geoff Johns is such an awful writer, it's hard to tell whether or not we are supposed to really like and support the intentions of Ye Olde Superman, or if Johns wants the reader to recognize the flaws in his motivations. I think it'd be actually quite interesting to see Ye Olde Superman become the "villain" of this story.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

How old is Geoff Johns, that Kingdom Come had such a formative effect?
-- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...), October 13th, 2005. (afarrell)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

I think they've actually been quite clever about this, in terms of having the conflict of the series being based on something fans actually care deeply about, i.e WHOZE CONTINUITY IS BESTEST, not anything boring like, oh, a moral or ethical dilemma.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 10 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

According to Wikipedia, Geoff Johns is 32.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

When the writer of the enormous crossover event is the same age as you it's almost certainly a sign to get out of the game.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 10 November 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe DC published a mainstream comic (obstensibly for children!) with the phrase "banging his sister" and "having the gay sex." That's a new low!

oh no! think of the children! we must update "seduction of the innocent" for the new millennium!

is Outsiders actually aimed at children? isn't it supposed to be a bit "edgy" and "adult"? if it was included in the "teen titans go" or "sccoby doo" comic you might (just about) have a point.

re IC 2 - more like "Infinite Exposition"

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh please, it's a corny superhero comic book. Like it or not, all corny superhero comics no matter how "edgy" are kids comics.

I take issue with that kind of crap being intended for "adults." It's meant for dim-witted Cheeto-stained manchildren, and we all know it.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

so why can't be "dim-witted cheeto-stained manchildren" be exposed to the concept of gay?

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I hear there are swears on pop records now too.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

It's not the concept of gayness that is troubling, Mark! It's that "the gay sex" is a form of punishment, and that the writer is just amazingly crude and tasteless.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

well yes, it is amazingly crude and tasteless, it just seems that the concept of characters being mind controlled and doing sexy things they don't want to is pretty commonplace and has been going on for years - like, hasn't it basically happened to every John Byrne heroine evah.

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Was Byrne the first ever to use this sleazy plot device?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Did Quicksilver ever have to "bang his sister," for example?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I think he actually feigned brainwashery just so he could.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Did Quicksilver ever have to "bang his sister," for example?

Someone needs to read The Ultimates!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

This is the second time in two days when someone had to remind me about something in a comic series that I've already read.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how folks felt when Harry Osborn did drugs?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

My issue is more with the phrase "banging his sister" than anything else. It's just a little too Howard Stern Show for kids comics.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Ha - tell that to "the kids"!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Meaning:

1) No doubt a huge chunk of the readership is on the old side of 20.

2) For kids (12-13), "banging your sister" is comparatively tame. (I base this insight on the potty mouth I had when I was a wee lad.)

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

As I posted elsewhere, there was a big wailing and gnashing of teeth over the supposed "mature themes" of this issue on the Geoff Johns msg bd, WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN??? etc.
I said something like, FUCK YOU IN YOUR DIRTY MOUTH, KIDS DON'T READ SHITTY COMICS LIKE THIS.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Word.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Huk I thought the DC Message Boards were bad enough but the GEOFF JOHNS MESSAGE BOARD? How low can you go??

(& where is it)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums (was formerly, and maybe still is, the sole function of GeoffJohns.com)

You have to register to post, and I did so about a year ago when I still had Green Lantern fever. A healthy number of "creators" post there, including Greg Rucka (who even has his own section).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

"the gay sex"

Having shamefully yet shamelessly bought IC #2, it's blatant that Old-Supes is the big villain.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Am I alone in enjoying IC? I mean, it's cheesy fanwank, but it's pretty fun about it.

And The Outsiders thing, it's just a cheeky bit of fun, eh?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

i'm enjoying it pretty much basically

old supes will the bad guy unwittingly and then realize what's what and save the day - maybe sacrificing himself, maybe teaming up with plain ol supes and telling him 'i was wrong about you, you're the REAL superman' or some crap like that. i'm thinking maybe good alexander luthor has become bad. joker clearly will play a large part in inadvertantly beating the baddies.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 11 November 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

What a great writer Geoff Johns is that everyone can suss this stuff out so far in advance.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 November 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of enjoying the event, including crazy Interweb swings of opinion ("Geoff Johns is GOD he will bring the multiverse back" "NOOOOO Geoff Johns is SATAN he has made Earth-2 Superman WORSE THAN HITLER"*). The comic-as-comic? Not especially.

*I am quite keen on asking some of the rabid DC Boards types** "Hi, I'm a newbie, which issues of the Earth-2 Superman should I get?"

**and for all his badness as I said upthread GJ really has hooked onto a 'dilemma' that polarises fans in a way that erm Parallax did not. There is a vocal minority saying "Hold on, E2S is RIGHT!"

Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

So Earth-2 Superman is basically a 30-something comic nerd, writ cosmic. It's like meta, only accidental.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Isn't Silver Fox Superman basically saying the exact same thing as in the Mike Allred batman story, which everyone lurved?

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but he's saying that all the current lot have to be ERASED rather than, I don't know, given gift vouchers and relaxing shoulder massages and intimate soirees or something to make them less grim and unhappy.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

good point!

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

E2S is saying that heroes shd never be dark or conflicted or act unheroically.

MA is saying that stories with dark conflicted and unheroic heroes should not be assumed to be more adult or realistic.

Or to put it in ILM terms:

E2S: "Miserable indie is all rubbish."

MA: "People shouldn't think indie is better just because it's miserable."

Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

So if ES2 is the conflicted-bad-guy, who is teh bad-bad-guy?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Ginger Luthor?

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

All the Luthors will be murged into a multi-dimensional Luthor, and then you'll be sorry.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, given gift vouchers and relaxing shoulder massages and intimate soirees or something to make them less grim and unhappy.

Wow, maybe they SHOULD do Intimate Crisis.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Ginger Luthor is the bad guy. You can tell from the first panel where he's whispering in E2S's ear and saying "We can still save her." ES2 is a tool. Granted, he's a tool that doesn't know he is. But then the best tools usually don't.

That said, it was the first thing I read this week. Part of me can't believe that they'd be this blatant and I'm waiting for the left hook, but part of me says it's never gonna come.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

But the "things got bad" section (Knightfall, Doomsday, Jason Todd, Parallax) is spread over years, and the "things got worse" section is all stuff written for Infinite Crisis!

Actually what's the fighting Wonder Women in that page about?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

That was from the William Messner-Loebs / Mike Deodato "era" of WW, when she was forced to give up the tiara & bustier (for whatever reason - pissing off Mom, maybe): in that pic (IIRC), Diana is the one in the hott leather.

&, yeah, the 2nd issue wasn't so bad. OK, I liked it, damn you. Though, if they're actually gonna try to suck in new readers with this thing, how about EXPLAINING THE ENTIRE CRISIS CRAP THING in the FIRST ISSUE?

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

BTW, the Royal Flush Gang getting FAPPO'd means there's another set of characters utilized by the Giffen / DeMatteis JL team gone to visit Barry Allen. (Yeah, they were around a long time before, but DO YOU SEE?!?)

Also: Power Girl got thighs like WHAT?

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

1st Issue: Present Threat, kill Ratcatcher
2nd Issue: Explain Why We Should Care, Kill RFG (another version of which has already been seen in the Villains United/Firestorm thingy.
3rd Issue: Give Wonder Woman a Batman/Superman level of tragedy to inspire her, kill Funky Flashman

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

4th Issue: Close Parentheses, kill Lori Lemaris)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh, we all knew this was coming:
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Feb06/DCFeb05Solicits.htm

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

leaked DC feb solicits:
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/113177745735309.htm

hukl, Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

FUCK FUCK FUCK
SPOILERS:
final issues for Gotham Knights (big whoop), Wonder Woman (hmmm?), and Gotham Central (INFINITE FUCKFUCKFUCK).

hukl, Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

HOLY CRAP! DC: The New Frontier ACTION FIGURES!!!

hukl, Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

January's issue of the Flash = FINAL ISSUE!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Hey, this sounds pretty swank!

Hawkman changes its title to Hawkgirl with issue #50 as a part of the publisher’s “One Year Later…” event. The series will also be getting a creative team change, with Walt Simonson coming on board as writer and Howard Chaykin joining as penciler (marking the first return of both to mainstream, ongoing DCU work in years – and the first time in years that the two former studio mates will be working together).

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Infinite Crisis prediction #230: In Gotham Central #38, Jim Corrigan will kill Det. Crispus Allen dead (because Rucka just devoted a whole issue to what a great, upstanding family guy Allen is--nevermind the wholesale Pembleton appropriations), and then in #39, Det. Renee Montoya, who Allen reminded us has been dealing with hardcore anger issues, will pop Corrigan. Then the Spectre will show up and be all, "FEEL MY WRATH!" and the issue will end with a big splash that makes it look like Corrigan will do like the other Jim Corrigan and become the Spectre, but then in FINAL ISSUE #40, Renee Montoyal will become the first ever lesbian Spectre, which will prove, once and for all, that God doesn't hate gays.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

waitwaitwait when you said 'final issue gotham central' did you mean 'they are going to stop making gotham central'???? plz tell me words mean different in canadien. also the infinite crisis gotham central is most likely going to be the best thing to come out of this (SHOCKAH), great art also.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Yup. Issue #40 (ships in Feb) is solicited as "FINAL ISSUE", though the admin on the Greg Rucka section of the Geoff Johns msg bds says, "You guys are going to love what's GC's replacement", so obv. it's going to be a relaunch with Greg Horn covers.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah my dorkass just googled it - i think your surmising of how it plays out is probably pretty obv otm looking at plot descrips/covers of future issues. they better keep stacy!!!

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

huk why didn't you tell me that the dude who used to do the art for green arrow is now doing the art for nightwing so i would've bothered to read a nightwing cbr before now? huh huk huh?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Because Nightwing SUCKS and I wouldn't wish Nightwing on my worst enemy, and you're not even my fourth worst enemy. And Hester and Parks are gone right away, anyhoo.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Hester & Parks are moving to Marvel - they're doing a special issue of Marvel Team-Up next month, I think. (They're doing the cover, at any rate.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Hester is apparantly a rilly gr8 writer, too. Can anyone confirm?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

His Boneshaker serial in early Negative Burn was pretty good, haven't read anything since (= 12 years!)

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Rucka justifies HIS DECISION to pull Gotham Central's plug:
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=661619ce1cb1c2afd42d182bf6e470cc&threadid=49462

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm not so sure that's a bad idea. It's clearly league's better when Brubaker's on it, or at least teaming up with Rucka. The IC tie-in was a bit... y'know, cheese. But the art had me fooled on first read.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

INFINITI CHRYSLER!!

Sonneywolferinecastleee (Leee), Saturday, 19 November 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Prediction for Infinite Crisis #7:

Earth-2 Superman, in his new guise as Panti-Monitor, is at the Dawn of Time, about to collapse the current DCU Earth so that he can replace it with his corny-ass Joe Staton-drawn Earth-2 (i love Joe Staton, but that doesn't mean Earth-2 isn't corny-assed). Current-DCU Superman, Unca Sam, Starfire, Nightwang, Waverider, Eclipso, Donny Troy, Air Wave, Green OLD MAN PANTS Lantern and Dr. Polaris are a crumpled mess at his feet. All of a sudden an ELECTRIC SCARLET CRACKLE ERUPTS FROM THE WAVES OF PANTI-MATTER, and the Flash appears, knocks the Infinity Gems out of Old Supes hands and realigns the DC Universe.
"You got here just in time, Wally," Nightwang says, pulling up his pants.
"Thanks, Dickie, but I'm not Wally!"
The Flash pulls back his red cowl to reveal...MARTHA WAYNE!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

At which point Superman looks up and says "Mom?"

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Cue "All The Things She Said."

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Tatu or Simple Minds?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

With a costume like this, you're just begging to get yr brains splattered all over Max Lord's Bruno Maglis
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Beetle/hamner.htm

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Grim and gritty Blue Beetle yay!*

* - This may be sarcasm.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Bane Beetle

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Looks a bit like a Guy-Davis-drawn Abe Sapien to me.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 8 December 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

DC in March: RETURN OF THE MEH!
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Mar06/DCMar05Solicits.html

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

FUCK!
Winnick is still on Green Arrow, with art by (yeccccchhhh!) Scott McDaniels and Andy Owen. Looks like I'm through with GA for now.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Wait a sec - the co-writer of the new Bwah-hah-blue Beetle series wrote the Catwoman screenplay?!?!? GOOD GRIEF!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

CRISIS ON INFINITE FUCK!
No Winter Men until March??!?!?!?!??!?!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Jonah Hex looks right good, though.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

In a bold new 1215135-part bi-fortnightly crossover between Batman and Detective Comics, the man who brought the Matlock aesthetic to comic books shakes up the Dark Knight Detective's world FOREVER!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

No Winter Men until March = YOU CAN BUY ED BRUBAKER'S DEADLY GENESIS FEATURING THE X-MEN ONE OF US etc.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm totally switching to nothing but All-Stars and Showcase Presents in OH-SICKS.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

The covers for the Johns / Busiek Superstory have somehow intrigued me as to what will happen between the covers.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the Supergirl & Power Girl in Kandor sounds hot too.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Also, in a total ANTI SHOCKA, the non-continuity Batstuff (by Paul Pope & Sam Kieth) (& Matt Wagner, too, sure) is about 10034839x more interesting than the "one year later..." Batstuff.

Also also: All-Star Superman!!!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, Batman Year 100 looks deadly!
I have a t-shirt with Paul Pope art on it (because I was a giant Jon Spencer when I was 15, and Heavy Trash played in my town a month ago--geez, Green Lantern to Jon Spencer, my childhood suxxed.)!
I was actually, for like two seconds, wondering where the hell THE THING was.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Okay, so judging by the relentlessly grim new directions outlined above, it's pretty clear that Infinite Crisis is most definitely not ushering in a shinier, happier DC Universe. In fact, this just seems way worse.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh snap! The solicits were TAKEN DOWN! So much for my "gritty" / "not gritty" Tale of the Tape thing.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

I kept my window with the solicits open! But now I'm leaving work.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

I got your back, Daver!



DC COMICS SOLICITATIONS FOR MARCH 2006

BATMAN

BATMAN: SECRETS #1
Written by Sam Kieth
Art and cover by Kieth
The Dark Knight faces off against his most villainous adversary — The Joker — in this 5-issue miniseries written and illustrated by Sam Kieth (SCRATCH, The Maxx)!
Kieth weaves a dark tale of violence and mayhem, and how heroes are treated by the media and viewed by the public. As Batman and The Joker face off, their confrontation is inadvertently caught on film — and Gotham's protector appears to be pummeling Joker without mercy, much to the delight of the frenzied press! Plus, a secret from young Bruce Wayne's past is revealed!
On sale March 1 • 1 of 5 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US Edited by Scott Dunbier

DETECTIVE COMICS #817
Written by James Robinson
Art by Leonard Kirk & Andy Clarke
Cover by Simone Bianchi
It’s One Year Later…and who is the mysterious vigilante who’s been keeping Gotham free of crime? And what is his relationship with the new police commisioner? Don’t miss the stunning first part of a story crossing over with BATMAN by writer James Robinson (JSA: THE GOLDEN AGE, HAWKMAN, STARMAN), art team Leonard Kirk (JSA) & Andy Clarke, and cover artist Simone Bianchi (SEVEN SOLDIERS: SHINING KNIGHT)!
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

BATMAN #651
Written by James Robinson
Art by Don Kramer & Keith Champagne
Cover by Simone Bianchi
It’s One Year Later…and who’s responsible for the murder of another Gotham villain? And what fateful decision must Batman make that could change his relationship with Robin forever? Join writer James Robinson (JSA: THE GOLDEN AGE, HAWKMAN, STARMAN), artists Don Kramer & Keith Champagne (JSA) and cover artist Simone Bianchi (SEVEN SOLDIERS: SHINING KNIGHT) for a turning point in the life of the Dark Knight in Part 2 of a 6-part story continued from DETECTIVE COMICS #817!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

BATMAN ANNUAL #25
Written by Judd Winick
Art by Shane Davis & Mark Morales
Cover by Jock
The secret behind the return of Jason Todd is revealed! Join writer Judd Winick (BATMAN, THE OUTSIDERS, GREEN ARROW), artists Shane Davis (BATMAN, ROBIN) & Mark Morales (New Avengers) and cover artist Jock (BATMAN covers, THE LOSERS) for the compelling story behind the Red Hood’s origin and mysterious return to Gotham! Find out how the former Robin survived “A Death in the Family” to become one of the Batman’s deadliest adversaries.
On sale March 8 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US

CATWOMAN #53
Written by Will Pfeifer
Art by David Lopez & Alvaro Lopez
Cover by Adam Hughes
It’s One Year Later…and why is Selina Kyle no longer Catwoman? For that matter, why is she no longer named Selina Kyle? The new art team of David Lopez (FALLEN ANGEL, WONDER WOMAN) & Alvaro Lopez (Breach, Batgirl: Year One) joins series writer Will Pfeifer as the Catwoman you know is irrevocably changed, and a new member joins the cast — one that’s certain to shock you!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

NIGHTWING #118
Written by Bruce Jones
Art by Joe Dodd & Bit
Cover by Jock
It’s One Year Later…and why is Nightwing hiding out in New York City? Spinning out the events of Infinite Crisis, new writer Bruce Jones (Vigilante, THE Warlord) is joined by the art team of Joe Dodd (Human Torch) & Bit (BATMAN: Gotham Knights) and cover artist Jock (BATMAN covers, THE LOSERS) to bring you a Nightwing like you’ve never seen before!
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

ROBIN #148
Written by Adam Beechen Art by Karl Kerschl
Cover by Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines
It’s One Year Later…and why is the Boy Wonder wanted for murder? Don’t miss the debut of the new creative team of writer Adam Beechen (JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED), artist Karl Kerschl (ACTION COMICS) and cover artists Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines (SUPERMAN/BATMAN)!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

ROBIN: TO KILL A BIRD TP
Written by Bill Willingham
Art by Damion Scott, Giuseppe Camuncoli, Scott McDaniel, Pop Mhan, Sandra Hope and Andy Owens
Cover by Chris Brunner
It's a brand new start for Robin in this collection featuring ROBIN #134-139! Before our hero can fully recover from the recent deaths of his father and Spoiler, he must come face-to-face with the Penguin, the Dark Rider, the Veteran, and a mysterious archer who seems to want Robin dead!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 144 pg, FC, $14.99 US

BATMAN: LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT #201 & 202
Written by Christos N. Gage
Art by Ron Wagner & Bill Reinhold
Cover by Ariel Olivetti
LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT ships twice in March for the start of the 3-part “Cold Case,” written by Christos N. Gage (DEADSHOT, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit) with art by Ron Wagner (DAY OF VENGEANCE) & Bill Reinhold (Earth X) and cover art by Ariel Olivetti (SPACE GHOST)!
A journalist has researched the identity of the Gotham Ripper, a mad serial killer — and the evidence points to Thomas Wayne! Can Batman clear his father’s name? Things get more confusing when the journalist turns up dead!
Issue #201 on sale March 15; Issue #202 on sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

BATMAN: JOURNEY INTO KNIGHT #8
Written by Andrew Helfer
Art by Tan Eng Huat
Cover by Pat Lee
Things are really heating up in Gotham City! When a series of mysterious fires sweeps through a run-down neighborhood, Batman investigates…only to come face-to-face with the arsonist — a 12-year-old boy?
On sale March 29 • 8 of 12 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

BATMAN AND THE MONSTER MEN #5
Written by Matt Wagner
Art and cover by Wagner
The action and intrigue come to a head as mobsters and mutants converge in the nightmares of the World’s Greatest Detective! Will Batman’s strength be enough to defend both his city and the woman he loves?
On sale March 8 • 5 of 6 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

BATMAN: YEAR ONE HUNDRED #2
Written by Paul Pope
Art and cover by Pope
Paul Pope’s amazing tale of a future Gotham continues! Detective Gordon has discovered 100 years’ worth of suppressed police evidence related to the Batman. Why has this masked mystery returned from the shadows just when Gotham City begins falling to pieces?
On sale March 15 • 2 of 4 • Prestige Format • 48 pg, FC, $5.99 US

BATMAN: DARK DETECTIVE TP
Written by Steve Englehart
Art by Marshall Rogers & Terry Austin
Cover by Rogers
Don’t miss this 144-page collection featuring the 6-issue miniseries reuniting one of the great Batman creative teams of the 1970s! In DARK DETECTIVE, The Joker enters a gubernatorial election using the campaign slogan "Vote for me or I'll kill you!" Will it persuade voters?
Advance-solicited; on sale April 12 • 144 pg, FC, $14.99 US

NIGHTWING: MOBBED UP TP
Written by Devin Grayson
Art by Phil Hester, Cliff Chiang and Ande Parks
Cover by Hester & Parks
Dick Grayson is a made man in this trade paperback collecting NIGHTWING #107-111! Ex-cop Grayson feels his life spiral out of control after being adopted into one of New York City’s crime families. Can he escape this new odyssey into the depths of the criminal underworld?
On sale March 29 • 128 pg, FC, $12.99 US

GOTHAM CENTRAL: UNRESOLVED TARGETS TP
Written by Greg Rucka & Ed Brubaker
Art by Michael Lark & Stefano Gaudiano Cover by Lark
An amazing collection featuring the acclaimed GOTHAM CENTRAL #12-15 and #19-22! The Joker terrorizes the city at Christmastime when he begins randomly executing people with a rifle, and no one from the Mayor on down is safe! A second story focuses on an old case and unfinished business for disgraced detective Harvey Bullock.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 26 • 192 pg, FC, $14.99 US


SUERMAN

ALL STAR SUPERMAN #3
Written by Grant Morrison
Art and cover by Frank Quitely
The All Star adventures of the Man of Steel take another startling turn when Lois Lane transforms from Superman’s girlfriend into a Kryptonian Superwoman! Meanwhile, Lex Luthor’s plans simmer as the criminal mastermind exerts his charisma and intellect over the hardcore inmates who share his maximum-security prison.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

SUPERMAN #650
Written by Geoff Johns & Kurt Busiek
Art by Pete Woods
Cover by Terry Dodson & Rachel Dodson
It’s One Year Later…and Metropolis prepares to bid farewell to a hero! Join writers Geoff Johns (INFINITE CRISIS, TEEN TITANS) & Kurt Busiek (ASTRO CITY, SUPERMAN: SECRET IDENTITY, JLA/AVENGERS), artist Pete Woods (CATWOMAN) and cover artists Terry Dodson & Rachel Dodson (HARLEY QUINN, Marvel Knights: Spider-Man) for Part 1 of “Up, Up and Away,” an 8-part story crossing over with ACTION COMICS! Retailers please note: ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN has been re-titled SUPERMAN beginning with issue #650.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

ACTION COMICS #837
Written by Geoff Johns & Kurt Busiek
Art by Pete Woods
Cover by Terry Dodson & Rachel Dodson
It’s One Year Later…and whos tagged Clark Kent as a target? The 8-part “Up, Up and Away” continues as writers Geoff Johns & Kurt Busiek (ASTRO CITY, SUPERMAN: SECRET IDENTITY, JLA/AVENGERS) join forces with artists Pete Woods (CATWOMAN) and cover artist Terry Dodson & Rachel Dodson (HARLEY QUINN, Marvel Knights: Spider-Man)!
On sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

SUPERGIRL #7
Written by Greg Rucka
Art and cover by Ian Churchill
It’s one year later…and Kara and Power Girl have become the dynamic duo of the bottle city of Kandor as the new Flamebird and Nightwing! Don’t miss the debut of new series writer Greg Rucka (WONDER WOMAN, THE OMAC PROJECT) and artist Ian Churchill!
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

SUPERMAN/BATMAN #25
Written by Jeph Loeb
Art and cover by
Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines
The original team supreme of Jeph Loeb, Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines presents “The End”! “With a Vengeance” comes to its shattering conclusion, where villains are revealed and answers to questions that go back to issue #1 are laid bare. It’s Superman and Batman versus Darkseid and Lex Luthor — while the mysterious puppet master plays them all. Talk about a crisis! Retailers please note: This issue is resolicited; all previous orders are cancelled. This issue will feature two covers by Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines in a split of approximately 50/50.
Resolicited; on sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

SUPERMAN ARCHIVES VOL. 7 HC
Written by Don Cameron, Jerry Siegel, Bill Finger and others
Art by Joe Shuster, Fred Ray, George Roussos and others
Cover by Ray
The Golden Age of Superman hits its stride in SUPERMAN ARCHIVES VOL. 7, reprinting SUPERMAN #25-29 (1943-1944)! With World War II heating up, Superman fights subversion and sabotage at home while foiling villains like the Toyman and the Prankster.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 26 • 240 pg, FC, $49.99 US

SHOWCASE PRESENTS THE SUPERMAN FAMILY VOL. 1 TP
Written by Otto Binder
Art by Curt Swan, Ruben Moreria, Ray Burnley and others
Cover by Swan & Stan Kaye
The super-affordable Showcase collections continue with a volume spotlighting Superman's girlfriend Lois Lane and pal Jimmy Olsen, collecting the first 22 issues of SUPERMAN'S PAL, JIMMY OLSEN and Lois's first solo outing from SHOWCASE #9!
On sale March 15 • 576 pg, B&W, $16.99 US

SUPERMAN IN THE EIGHTIES TP
Written and illustrated by various
Cover by John Byrne
Don’t miss this collection of tales from the ‘80s, reprinted from ACTION COMICS #507-508, 554, 595, 600 (select stories), 644, SUPERMAN #408, DC COMICS PRESENTS #29, and ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #430! Artist/writer Jerry Ordway provides the introduction and context for this latest addition to DC's "Decades" library.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 192 pg, FC, $19.99 US

SUPERMAN: RUIN REVEALED TP
Written by Greg Rucka
Art by Karl Kerschl, Darryl Banks and Adam DeKraker
Cover by Kerschl
Another trade paperback collecting Greg Rucka’s run on ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, including issues #640-641and 644-647! Ruin, the man who has been out to destroy Superman and his loved ones, is revealed to be someone near and dear to him!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 12 • 144 pg, FC, $14.99 US


DC UNIVERSE


INFINITE CRISIS #6
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Phil Jimenez & Andy Lanning
Covers by Jim Lee & Sandra Hope and George Pérez
Which events in this continuing epic will lead us to One Year Later? What worlds live? Which hero dies? Retailers please note: This issue will ship with covers by Lee & Hope (approximately 50%) and Pérez (approximately 50%).
On sale March 8 • 6 of 7 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US

THE OMAC PROJECT: INFINITE CRISIS SPECIAL
Written by Greg Rucka
Art by Jesus Saiz
Cover by Ladrönn
The end is just the beginning in this epic spy thriller by the team behind the red-hot OMAC PROJECT miniseries! From the pages of INFINITE CRISIS, the legacy of Brother Eye rains down on earth, threatening exposure of a hero’s greatest secret and the dawning of a world war!
On sale March 22 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US

AQUAMAN: SWORD OF ATLANTIS #40
Written by Kurt Busiek
Art and cover by Butch Guice
It’s One Year Later…and Aquaman has totally changed! Join the new creative team of Kurt Busiek (ASTRO CITY, JLA) and Butch Guice (JLA CLASSIFIED) for the start of an amazing new undersea adventure!
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

BIRDS OF PREY #92
Written by Gail Simone
Art by Paulo Siqueira & Robin Riggs
Cover by Terry & Rachel Dodson
It’s One Year Later…and the Birds have a new mission — with a new lineup that will shock you! Don’t miss new art team Paulo Siqueira (Lady Death: Lost Souls) & Robin Riggs (JSA, SUPERGIRL) as they join acclaimed writer Gail Simone for a turning point in the history of the Birds of Prey!
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

BLOOD OF THE DEMON #13
Written by John Byrne & Will Pfeifer
Art by Byrne & Dan Green
Cover by Byrne
It’s One Year Later…and two Etrigans are battling the Lord of the Damned!
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

BIZARRO WORLD SC
Written and illustrated by Tony Millionaire, Kyle Baker, Dylan Horrocks, Eddie Campbell, Harvey Pekar, James Kochalka, Gilbert Hernandez, Peter Bagge and others
Cover by Jaime Hernandez
A heaping slab of great comics featuring Bizarro by a who’s-who of fantastic comic artists and writers! It's big! It's indisputably rectangular! It stays crunchy even in milk!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 26 • 200 pg, FC, $19.99 US

CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN: STOLEN MOMENTS, BORROWED TIME TP
Written and illustrated by Howard Chaykin
Cover by Chaykin
Collecting the acclaimed 6-issue miniseries by Howard Chaykin! In a world devoid of super-heroes, five extraordinary people who survived a cataclysmic event will discover that the world we live in is not the one we believe it to be.
On sale March 29 • 144 pg, FC, $16.99 US

BLUE BEETLE #1
Written by Keith Giffen & John Rogers
Art and cover by Cully Hamner
Keith Giffen (FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE) and hot screenwriter John Rogers (Catwoman) team with Cully Hamner (RED, BATMAN: TENSES) to bring back the Beetle! Tearing its way through the events of DAY OF VENGEANCE and INFINITE CRISIS, the mystical Blue Beetle scarab has chosen its new guardian! But supernatural powers can be a blessing or a curse, and when it comes to the powers of the Scarab, you don’t get one without the other.
On sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

FIRESTORM: THE NUCLEAR MAN #23
Written by Stuart Moore
Art by Jamal Igle & Keith Champagne
Cover by Brian Stelfreeze
It’s One Year Later…and Firestorm must stop a deadly nuclear accident and a threat to his very existence! And more importantly, just who was behind this “accident”?
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

GREEN ARROW #60
Written by Judd Winick
Art and cover by Scott McDaniel & Andy Owens
It’s One Year Later, and Ollie Queen is the newly elected mayor of Star City, fighting the good fight on the streets and through the system! And welcome aboard the dynamic new art team of Scott McDaniel and Andy Owens (NIGHTWING, ROBIN)!
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

GREEN LANTERN #10
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Ivan Reis & Marc Campos
Cover by Simone Bianchi
It’s One Year Later…and Hal Jordan is about to embark on one of his greatest challenges ever! Join acclaimed writer Geoff Johns (INFINITE CRISIS) and new series art team Ivan Reis & Marc Campos (ACTION COMICS, RANN/THANAGAR WAR) for Part 1 of “Revenge of the Green Lanterns!” Who is the Grandmaster of the Manhunters? What is the Igneous Man? Where is Sinestro? And why will the most unlikely of sons become one of Hal Jordan's greatest enemies?
On sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

GREEN LANTERN: NO FEAR HC
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Carlos Pacheco, Ethan Van Sciver, Darwyn Cooke and others
Cover by Alex Ross
A new hardcover collecting GREEN LANTERN #1-6 and GREEN LANTERN SECRET FILES #1! Hal Jordan is back from the dead — now watch as he re-establishes his life as a pilot. Standing in his way, though, is one of the deadly Manhunter androids followed by the Shark.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 19 • 176 pg, FC, $24.99 US

HARD TIME SEASON TWO #4
Written by Steve Gerber & Mary Skrenes
Art by Brian Hurtt & Steve Bird
Cover by Hurtt
It’s all about Cindy. The sweet “girl” of the penitentiary has some secrets of her own and may not be as good as she seems. Because when she’s bad…watch out!
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

HAWKGIRL #50
Written by Walter Simonson
Art and cover by Howard Chaykin
It’s One Year Later…and Hawkgirl is out to make a name for herself in St. Roché! New villains and new threats, all brought to you by the team of writer Walter Simonson (Orion, ELRIC: THE MAKING OF A SORCEROR) and artist Howard Chaykin (American Flagg,
CITY OF TOMORROW)!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

JONAH HEX #5
Written by Justin Gray & Jimmy Palmiotti
Art by Luke Ross
Cover by Brian Bolland
It’s 130 years ago…and the world's ugliest bounty hunter faces off against the deadliest combination known to mankind: nuns with guns!
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

MANHUNTER #20
Written by Marc Andreyko
Art by Javier Pina & Fernando Blanco
Cover by Jesus Saiz
It’s One Year Later…and Manhunter’s shocking new strategy makes her infamous in the eyes of heroes and villains alike!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

JLA CLASSIFIED #18 & 19
Written by Gail Simone
Art by José Luis García López & Klaus Janson
Cover by García López
The 6-part story “The Hypothetical Woman” continues! In Part 3, the toxic giant Chemo threatens to start an ecological disaster that only the JLA can stop. But with the team stretched thin uncovering the mystery behind General Tuzik's Conquerer Strain, will they be able to get it together in time?
And in Part 4, General Tuzik unleashes his team of Hypotheticals to further his plans of world domination, putting the JLA in a difficult position. In order to stop him, they'll have to declare war!
Issue #18 on sale March 15; issue #19
on sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

JSA #83
Written by Paul Levitz
Art by Rags Morales, Dave Meikis and Luke Ross
Cover by George Pérez
It’s One Year Later…and the JSA has been torn asunder! Legendary JSA writer Paul Levitz, award-winning artist Rags Morales (IDENTITY CRISIS, WONDER WOMAN) & inker Dave Meikis (HOURMAN) deliver a moving 5-part tale of heroes picking up the pieces of their lives as they face of against one of their deadliest enemies! Featuring flashback sequences illustrated by Luke Ross (JONAH HEX)!
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

JSA CLASSIFIED #10
Written by Stuart Moore
Art and cover by Paul Gulacy & Jimmy Palmiotti
It’s One Year Later…and a dying Vandal Savage has crash-landed on Earth after the worst twelve months of his life. His last order of business? Revenge on Green Lantern! Don’t miss the Part 1 of a 4-part story written by Stuart Moore (FIRESTORM) with art by Paul Gulacy & Jimmy Palmiotti (CATWOMAN, YEAR ONE: BATMAN/RA’S AL GHUL)!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

SUPERGIRL AND THE LEGION OF THE SUPER-HEROES #16
Written by Mark Waid
Art and cover by Barry Kitson & Mick Gray
It’s 1,001 years later…and guess who’s joining the Legion of Super-Heroes? It’s just what you think…and nothing you expect!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

OUTSIDERS #34
Written by Judd Winick
Art by Matthew Clark & Art Thibert
Cover by Daniel Acuña
It’s One Year Later…and The Outsiders are finished. Done. No team by that name exists. Unless they’re coming for you…
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

OUTSIDERS: CRISIS INTERVENTION TP
Written by Judd Winick and Jen Van Meter
Art by Matthew Clark, Dietrich Smith and Art Thibert
Cover by Daniel Acuña
A new volume collecting OUTSIDERS #29-33, plus select scenes from various DCU books, showing Donna Troy recruiting heroes for her mission! The Outsiders are left reeling following a betrayal by one of their members. They must face a rematch with the Fearsome Five and Sabbac, who now has the power of the Seven Deadly Sins!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 19 • 128 pg, FC, $12.99 US

SHOWCASE PRESENTS TEEN TITANS VOL. 1 TP
Written by Bob Haney, Marv Wolfman and Len Wein
Art by Nick Cardy, Bruno Premiani, Bill Molno, Irv Novick, Lee Elias, Bill Draut, Sal Trapani and Jack Abel
Cover by Cardy
The "Showcase" format continues with a volume collecting BRAVE AND THE BOLD #54, 60, SHOWCASE #59, and TEEN TITANS #1-18. Robin, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash, and Aqualad unite for adventures only a teen team could handle!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 528 pg, B&W, $16.99 US

TEEN TITANS #34
Written by Geoff Johns
Art and cover by Tony Daniel & Sandra Hope
Variant cover by Ed Benes
One Year Later, it’s Part 1 of “The New Teen Titans!” A new year of exciting adventures begins with the “new” Teen Titans, the bizarre Doom Patrol and the mysterious and secretive Titans East! Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers by Tony Daniel & Sandra Hope and Ed Benes. Please see this month’s order form for details on the variant cover.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

SEVEN SOLDIERS: BULLETEER #4
Written by Grant Morrison
Art and cover by Yanick Paquette & Serge LaPointe
In the miniseries finale, the Bulleteer finally faces her husband’s mysterious online lover in an unforgettable battle to the death! Sally Sonic is an embittered British super-teen from the 1940s with the mind of a miserable 75-year-old woman trapped in an immortal 16-year-old body. Can Bulleteer survive her first slugfest, or could this be the tragic end of her career as a super-hero before it even begins?
A Soldier must die — will it be the Bulleteer?
On sale March 15 • 4 of 4 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

SEVEN SOLDIERS: FRANKENSTEIN #4
Written by Grant Morrison
Art and cover by Doug Mahnke
Frankenstein has tracked the swarming Sheeda to their lair — and what he finds will shock him! The truth about the villains is revealed at last as the Monster goes on a rampage the likes of which has never before been seen in comics. It’s Frankenstein vs. the Fairies — and the end of SEVEN SOLDIERS! This issue leads directly into April’s SEVEN SOLDIERS OF VICTORY #1, the mindblowing conclusion to this expansive saga!
A Soldier must die — will it be Frankenstein?
On sale March 29 • 4 of 4 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

SEVEN SOLDIERS: MR. MIRACLE #4
Written by Grant Morrison
Art and cover by Freddie Williams II
Ever wonder what life might have been like if you’d chosen a different path? The Omega Effect can take you there!
Join Shilo Norman, Super Escape Artist, as he faces the ultimate challenge! The Life Trap is here, and the only way out is in a box. Can Mr. Miracle beat the odds that say death is 100% certain? Find out in “Forever-Flavored Man” and prepare to witness…the Final Escape!
A Soldier must die — will it be Mr. Miracle?
On sale March 8 • 4 of 4 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

SEVEN SOLDIERS OF VICTORY VOL. 2 TP
Written by Grant Morrison
Art by Simone Bianchi, Cameron Stewart, Ryan Sook & Mick Gray and Frazer Irving
Cover by Stewart
The brilliant mind of Grant Morrison (THE INVISIBLES, JLA, ALL STAR SUPERMAN) is showcased once again as the collections of his most groundbreaking and ambitious project yet! Comprised of seven different 4-issue miniseries and two bookend Specials, this colossal 30-part tale of death, betrayal, failure, joy, loss, romance, triumph and redemption is being collected in 4 volumes!
This second volume features the continuing exploits of four of the seven soldiers, and collects KLARION #2-3, SHINING KNIGHT #3-4, GUARDIAN #3-4, and ZATANNA #3. Independently, each of these characters is featured in a story arc that redefines their purpose in the DCU. But their stories also interweave with the other Soldiers' tales, and tells a grander story of a devastating global threat to mankind. Together, these reluctant champions must arise and work together to save the world...without ever meeting one another!
On sale March 22 • 176 pg, FC, $14.99 US

SGT. ROCK: THE PROPHECY #3
Written by Joe Kubert
Art and cover by Kubert
Sgt. Rock and Easy Co. continue on their mission to bring “The Prophecy” to Estonia. After a harrowing shootout with a band of renegade Nazis, the combat-happy Joes of Easy Company and their precious cargo stumble upon a place they’ve never seen before — and one they won’t soon forget.
On sale March 22 • 3 of 6 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

THE WARLORD #2
Written by Bruce Jones
Art and cover by Bart Sears
The amazing new adventures of one of comics’ greatest fantasy heroes by Bruce Jones and Bart Sears continue! The brutal Prince Brovis means to conquer Shamballah, a kingdom in desperate need of a champion. The prophecy says a warrior will come…but could that warrior be a man from our world?
On sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US


JOHNNY DC

THE BATMAN STRIKES! #19
Written by Bill Matheny
Art by Christopher Jones & Terry Beatty
Cover by Dave McCaig
Solomon Grundy, smashes things on Monday! The first time we saw Grundy, he was really Clayface, but Batman’s about to find out that the legend of the swamp monster is very, very real!
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED #19
Written by Adam Beechen
Art by Gordon Purcell & Bob Petrecca
Cover by Ty Templeton
Wonder Woman, Elongated Man and Vigilante track a sinister time traveller back to the Old West. But it’s going to take the help of Jonah Hex, Bat Lash and El Diablo for them to stand a chance against the Time Commander! Guns are a ‘blazin’ in “The Justice Rangers Ride Again!”
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED VOL. 2: WORLD’S GREATEST HEROES TP
Written by Adam Beechen
Art by Carlo Barberi, Ethen Beavers and Walden Wong
Cover by Ben Caldwell
The JLA encounter the oldest Green Lantern as they battle the terrible triptych, journey to deep space to thwart Darkseid, and travel back in time to Camelot to battle the evil Morgaine Le Fey! A 114-page manga size spectacular reprinting issues #6-10 of the ongoing series.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 19 • 5" x 7.375" • 104 pg, FC, $6.99US

JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED VOL. 3: CHAMPIONS OF JUSTICE TP
Written by Adam Beechen
Art by Carlo Barberi and Walden Wong
Cover by Ben Caldwell
The World's Greatest Super-Heroes unite as they encounter one incredible menace after another in this 104-page digest sized collection reprinting JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED #11-15! Featuring two Flashes vs. the Mirror Master, a crisis for Red Tornado, a journey to Limbo with Deadman and more!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 19 • 5” x 7.375” • 104 pg, FC, $6.99US

TEEN TITANS GO! #29
Written by J. Torres
Art by Mike Norton & Lary Stucker
Cover by Sean Galloway
Cyborg, Beast Boy and Starfire are all contestants on “Who Wants Pie?”, the new game show sensation with a sinister edge! If the Titans want to get out alive, they'll have to solve a bunch of puzzles and brain-teasers. And you, the reader, can join in the fun!!
On sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

HI HI PUFFY AMIYUMI #2
Written by Abby Denson, J. Torres, Sean Carolan and Jennifer Moore
Art by Phil Moy, Chris Cook and Mike DeCarlo
Cover by Phil Moy
The exciting 3-issue miniseries continues! Ami and Yumi are sick of their shady manager, Kaz, and want a new one. But they’d better be careful what they wish for — or what they sign! Also, advertising may be profitable for the band, but there are some products the girls don’t want their faces on?
On sale March 8 • 2 of 3 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

CARTOON NETWORK BLOCK PARTY #19
Written by Scott Roberts, Jon Lewis and Jim Alexander
Art by Ricardo Garcia-Fuentes, Mike DeCarlo, Scott Neely and Dan Day
Cover by Robert Pope
The Powerpuff Girls have joined the Block Party and are ready to rock! But first they have some serious spring cleaning to do! Plus, Johnny Bravo has a date with a beautiful movie star, but will he realize his good luck?
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

SCOOBY-DOO #106
Written by Alex Simmons
and Scott Peterson
Art by Robert Pope,
Scott McRae, Joe Staton
and Jeff Albrecht
Cover by Staton
The Mystery, Inc gang must learn why teenage secret agent J.Z. Bang is being chased by ghouls and goblins, instead of sneaks and spies! Plus, the Mystery Machine breaks down in front of a creepy old house, and Shaggy & Scooby discover the dangers of a haunted fruit stand.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

LOONEY TUNES #136
Written by Jesse Leon McCann, Sholly Fisch and Sam Agro
Art by Walter Carzon, Ruben Torreiro, Neal Sternecky,
Scott McRae, Pablo Zamboni and Horacio Ottolini
Cover by Carzon & Torreiro.
Marvin the Martian has decided the fate of Mars depends on Foghorn Leghorn — and he’ll get cooperation by any means necessary! Plus, take a trip back in time with Daffy and find out how clever that duck’s always been.
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.25 US

MAD #464
Written and illustrated by The Usual Gang of Idiots
More of the MAD-cap hilarity you’ve come to expect and demand from the Usual Gang of Idiots!
On sale March 1 • 48 pg, FC/B&W, $3.99 US

MAD CLASSICS #6
Written and illustrated by
The Usual Gang of Idiots
A jam-packed new issue of MAD CLASSICS, featuring the Best of the Web, MAD Marginals, Reader’s Choice picks, and much more!
On sale March 8 • 96 pg, FC/B&W, $4.99 US


DC LIBRARY

ELFQUEST: THE DISCOVERY #2
Written by Wendy & Richard Pini
Art by Wendy Pini
The all-new bimonthly miniseries continues! Sunstream is awake and ready to lead the Wolfriders to the distant sea — and the Wave Dancers. While Brill can’t wait to meet her recognized partner in the flesh, not every underwater denizen is as eager.
On sale March 15 • 2 of 4 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US

ELFQUEST: THE GRAND QUEST VOL. 14 TP
Written by Richard & Wendy Pini
Art by Wendy Pini and John Byrne
Cover by Wendy Pini
The Grand Quest comes to a whirlwind conclusion with a climactic fight between Cutter and Rayek! Includes “Right of Passage” from ELFQUEST: THE HIDDEN YEARS and stories from ELFQUEST: ROGUE’S CHALLENGE, including the rare collaboration between Wendy Pini and John Byrne.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 12 • 5” x 7.375” • 224 pg, B&W, $9.99US

THE SPIRIT ARCHIVES VOL. 18 HC
Written by Will Eisner Art and cover by Eisner
THE WILL EISNER LIBRARY Reprinting Spirit sections from January 2 to June 26, 1949, Will Eisner’s masterwork continues through one of its greatest periods in THE SPIRIT ARCHIVES VOL. 18, featuring the classic stories “Thorne Strand and the Spirit,” “Visitor” and “Satin” as well as an introduction by Eisner's former editor at Kitchen Sink Press, Catherine Garnier.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 12 • 196 pg, FC, $49.99 US


CMX

MOON CHILD VOL. 2
Written and illustrated by Reiko Shimizu
CMX. Shona is led to believe the unbelievable — that Jimmy is “Benjamin,” the half-mermaid/half-human mentioned in the prophecies of destruction. But one problem remains: the prophecy foretells of a girl!
The strange twins that exactly resemble Jimmy are the only ones who seem to know the full truth about the boy and the nature of his bizarre powers. Although they claim to be protecting him, they appear to have their own agenda. Only time will tell whether they are allies…or enemies in disguise!
On sale March 15 • 5" x 7.375" • 192 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • TEEN

SEIMADEN VOL. 4
Written and illustrated by You Higuri
CMX. The Demon King Laures has been taken prisoner.
His enemies will stop at nothing to destroy him and have targeted his beloved Hilda as the means to exact their revenge. Steadfast Roddrick attempts to rescue his former girlfriend, though great danger bars his way. With Laures held powerless, the lovers’ fate may be in the hands of an old flame, who must conquer his own demons in order to save them all.
On sale March 22 • 5" x 7.375" • 180 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • TEEN

KAMIKAZE KAITO JEANNE VOL. 3
Written and illustrated by Arina Tanemura
CMX. The internationally best-selling manga continues its English language debut! Maron races to save a friend — who’s also an enemy!
Although he’s her archenemy Sinbad by night, by day Maron has strong feelings for Chiaki. When he’s kidnapped by his demon-possessed father, Maron transforms into Kaito Jeanne to save him. But the demon dad is ready for Jeanne, and has a space reserved just for her in his collection of living mannequins! And it doesn’t help matters when the imprisoned Chiaki refuses to move back home — even if Jeanne can set him free.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 26 • 5" x 7.375" • 200 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • ALL AGES

KIKAIDER CODE 02 VOL. 3
Story by Shotaro Ishinomori
Illustrated by MEIMU
CMX. The manga behind the cult favorite animated series seen on Cartoon Network continues!
On the surface, Jiro appears to be a normal teenager — but he’s really Kikaider, a super-powered android. He can save humankind from an army of destructive robots, but only if his unstable “conscience circuit” doesn’t destroy us first! After managing to defeat his "brother," a weakened Jiro is unable to stall the plot that could mean the end of mankind! The agents of D.A.R.K. are everywhere and evil mastermind Gil Helbert has prepared for every eventuality…except the determination of an all-too-human android.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 19 • 5" x 7.375" • 210 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • MATURE READERS

TENRYU: THE DRAGON CYCLE VOL. 5
Written and illustrated by Sanami Matoh
CMX. From the best-selling creator of the hit manga Fake. The epic journey of Hiryu and Ryukei builds towards its conclusion!
After two years of solo training, Hiryu, bandit-turned-Dragon-King, is ready to face his final battle. But his trek home is disrupted when Hawk Village falls under attack from the evil Torao's men, and Hiryu must come to the rescue.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 26 • 5" x 7.375" • 192 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • TEEN

CIPHER VOL. 3
Written and illustrated by Minako Narita
CMX. The beloved manga by one of Japan’s foremost shojo creators takes to the road in this third volume! As the school year comes to an end, Anise finds her feelings for Cipher growing more complicated. And now the brothers are getting ready to leave for Hollywood. Will she be able to deal with the separation, or will she follow them out west?
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 5" x 7.375" • 224 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • TEEN

TENJHO TENGE VOL. 7
Written and illustrated by Oh! great
CMX. In a school dominated by ruthless martial arts teams, one rogue club must fight the odds to stay alive!
To activate his “pure warrior,” Master Dogen introduces an element that turns the ultra-violent opening rounds of the tournament into a bloodbath! Meanwhile, as the bond between Maya and Mitsuomi deepens, Shin falls deeper under the spell of the mystical sword. This leads up to the tragic, destined battle between Shin and Mitsuomi, after which none of the characters will ever be the same! Retailers please note: This volume has been edited for U.S. release.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 19 • 5" x 7.375" • 240 pg, B&W, $9.99 US • TEEN


WILDSTORM

THE AMERICAN WAY #2
Written by John Ridley
Art and cover by Georges Jeanty & Karl Story
Tragedy strikes America's heroes as one of their own falls in combat! As for new Civil Defense Corps marketing director Wesley Catham, he couldn't have asked for a more difficult start: how do you spin the death of a popular hero without having the public lose faith in national security? The answer: introduce a new hero!
On sale March 22 • 2 of 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

CAPTAIN ATOM: ARMAGEDDON #6
Written by Will Pfeifer
Art by Giuseppe Camuncoli & Sandra Hope
Cover by Camuncoli & Gabriele Dell'Otto
While the friendship between Captain Atom and the Engineer grows, the Authority and Majestic search for answers to Atom's condition. The Wildcats begin to experiment on Nikola, trying to free the Void signature...but can anything stop the countdown?
On sale March 8 • 6 of 9 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

DESOLATION JONES #6
Written by Warren Ellis
Art and cover by J.H. Williams III
Michael Jones has been played for a fool from the start. Military spooks turned adult film entrepreneurs was just the decoration. All Jones knows is everyone is against him, and that the odds say he won't live through the night...
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

EX MACHINA #20
Written by Brian K. Vaughan
Art by Tony Harris & Tom Feister
Cover by Harris
Concluding the most controversial story of the year: the 4-part “March to War!” It’s former super-hero Mitchell Hundred's darkest hour as Mayor of New York City, as the tree of liberty is once again refreshed with the blood of patriots.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

EX MACHINA: FACT V. FICTION TP
Written by Brian K. Vaughan
Art by Tony Harris & Tom Feister Cover by Harris
Collecting three unique storylines of the Eisner Award-winning series from issues #11-16! Mayor Mitchell Hundred must make a difficult decision about his own future, becomes part of a shocking trial complicated by the unexpected arrival of an all-new superhero, and leaves New York City for the first time since his election to embark on a strange adventure!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 144 pg, FC, $12.99 US • Mature Readers

MAJESTIC #15
Written by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning
Art and cover by Neil Googe
Imperitor's forces go to war with the warriors of the Shaper's Guild for possession of the Planet Engine, and the destinies of Khera and Earth hang in the balance! Caught in the middle, Majestic and his disparate band of allies struggle to thwart both and stop them from tearing the world apart.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

RED SONJA /CLAW THE UNCONQUERED: DEVIL’S HANDS #1
Written by John Layman
Art by Andy Smith
Cover by Alex Ross
Variant cover by Jim Lee
Fan-favorite Red Sonja meets a blast from DC's past: Claw the Unconquered — in a 4-issue miniseries written by John Layman (THUNDERCATS: ENEMY’S PRIDE) with art by Andy Smith (Weapon X, Silver Surfer) and covers by Jim Lee (BATMAN, SUPERMAN) and Alex Ross (JUSTICE)! Red Sonja, crimson-haired she-devil with a sword, and Claw, the cursed warrior, are thrown together as unlikely allies against a despotic evil sorcerer who was once a friend to Red Sonja but is now her sworn enemy — and may hold the key to unlocking the terrible curse he must endure! Copublished with Dynamite Entertainment. Please see the order form for details on the variant cover.
On sale March 15 • 1 of 4 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

THUNDERBOLT JAXON #2
Written by Dave Gibbons
Art by John Higgins
Cover by Gibbons
Ancient deities are revealed as this action-packed miniseries continues! When Jack Jaxon and his friends discover the true mystical nature of their recently found treasure, gang warfare erupts. Meanwhile, Jack's stepfather, a major combatant in the urban turf war, is glimpsed by Jack as his true self.
On sale March 1 • 2 of 5 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

TEAM ZERO #4
Written by Chuck Dixon
Art by Doug Mahnke & Sandra Hope
Cover by Tommy Lee Edwards
Deathblow and his team have reached Peenemunde, but the Soviets are hot on their heels. The Team digs in as the advance units of the Red Army begin to arrive...and it's not what any of them could have expected. Outnumbered and outgunned, Team Zero prepares for war!
On sale March 1 • 4 of 6 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

WILDCATS: NEMESIS #7
Written by Robbie Morrison
Art by Talent Caldwell, Horacio Domingues & Matt "Batt" Banning
Cover by Caldwell & Banning
The Brotherhood's assault on Earth has begun! Nemesis and Zealot fight side by side, but the odds are stacked against them. Is anyone left to stem this massive threat? And Nemesis flashes back to Prohibition-era America to mix it up with bootleggers!
On sale March 8 • 7 of 9 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

WILDSIDERZ #3
Written by J. Scott Campbell & Andy Hartnell
Art and covers by Campbell
The thrilling miniseries by fan-favorite creators J. Scott Campbell and Andy Hartnell continues! High school, the social hierarchy and homemade superpowers can be a lot for any teenager to handle. Will the Wildsiderz finally learn to work together, or will the villainous plans of Dr. Spydre break them apart? In order to retrieve their powers, Styler hatches a plan that forces Zak into a dangerously close encounter with Emily. But is Styler’s heroic intent what it seems, or is he after something more personal than powers? Either way, the Wildsiderz will have to keep their emotions in check as Dr. Spydre turns their high school formal into an affair they’ll never forget. Retailers please note: This issue is resolicited. All previous orders are cancelled. This issue will ship with two covers by J. Scott Campbell. Please see the order form for information on the variant cover.
Resolicited; on sale March 29 • 3 of 5 • 32 pg, FC, $3.50 US

THE WINTER MEN #4
Written by Brett Lewis
Art and cover by John Paul Leon
Kris and Nikki uncover more clues about the fabled heroes as they investigate the so-called Boy Scouts and their operation. And could Kris’s old team, Red 11, have a connection to the Winter Men? Retailers please note: This issue is resolicited. All previous orders are cancelled.
Resolicited; on sale March 29 • 4 of 6 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

WRAITHBORN #6
Written by Marcia Chen
Art and cover by Joe Benitez & Joe Weems
The final question is answered: who will ultimately wield the power of the Wraithborn? The pulse-pounding extra-sized finale is here as Valin makes a noble attempt to rescue Melanie... and finds himself face-to-face with Brijit and Kiara. The stakes have never been higher, the outcome never more tense, now is the time when heroes are born…or die.
On sale March 29 • 6 of 6 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US

ABC A to Z: TOP 10 AND TEAMS
Written by Peter Hogan and Steve Moore
Art by Zander Cannon, Gene Ha & Rick Veitch
Cover by Terry Dodson
Everything you ever wanted to know about the crew of Top 10 but were afraid to ask! Leni Muller, one of the earliest officers to wear a badge at Precinct 10, reveals the ins and outs of the force as only an insider can. From the post-war days to the present, Leni knows where all the bodies are buried. Also, King Solomon takes a look at some of America's Best…and worst!
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $3.99 US

TOM STRONG BOOK FIVE TP
Written by Brian K. Vaughan, Ed Brubaker and others
Art by Pascual Ferry, Duncan Fegredo and others
Cover by Chris Sprouse and Jose Villarrubia
An amazing softcover collection featuring TOM STRONG #26-30!
Whether investigating paranormal activities in the outermost atmosphere or entering a dream realm through a young girl who is also a living black hole, Tom Strong is the ever-vigilant defender of Millennium City!
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 136 pg, FC, $17.99 US

TOP 10: THE 49ERS SC
Written by Alan Moore
Art and cover by Gene Ha
The Eisner Award-winning TOP 10 team of writer Alan Moore and artist Gene Ha reunites for a softcover edition of the original graphic novel that delves into the past, revealing the origins of Neopolis and the first officers of Top Ten! Meet the original Top 10 officers who blazed the trail and made Neopolis the city it is today!
On sale March 22 • 112 pg, FC, $17.99 US • Mature Readers


VERTIGO

AMERICAN VIRGIN #1
Written by Steven T. Seagle
Art by Becky Cloonan
Cover by Frank Quitely
YOU ALWAYS REMEMBER YOUR FIRST TIME…
Adam Chamberlain is a 20-year-old youth minister, a best-selling author, and most important, the head of a rabid national virginity movement. But practicing virgin or not...Adam is about to lose it.
Just a few weeks shy of marrying the girl of his dreams — the only woman God has said he can ever know sexually — Adam's fate, future and sex life are cast in direct opposition with God's Word.
Like Y: THE LAST MAN, the series follows one man’s dark quest into unknown territories — geographically and emotionally. A shocking terrorist act casts Adam adrift in exotic locales not so easily managed by a slick image, a clever comeback or the Good Book. Adam is forced to confront head-on the very rifts we all feel between our carnal desires and whatever higher power we answer to.
Will Adam’s first time be his last?
Featuring the deft, cutting edge writing skills of seven-time Eisner Award nominee Steven T. Seagle (the nationally acclaimed IT'S A BIRD...) and the frenetic, high-contrast art of two-time Eisner Award-nominated artist Becky Cloonan (Demo, Wizard’s “Best Indie Book” for 2004), AMERICAN VIRGIN will be previewed in Y: THE LAST MAN #41 and includes a bonus interview with the creators. Erotically charged covers for the series will be created by the inimitable Eisner Award-winning artist Frank Quitely (WE3, ALL STAR SUPERMAN).
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS Edited by Shelly Bond

100 BULLETS #70
Written by Brian Azzarello
Art by Eduardo Risso
Cover by Dave Johnson
While most of the remaining members of The Trust were gambling with their lives in Atlantic City, Agent Graves paid a visit to two brothers down on their luck. But when one gets his hands on Graves’ infamous briefcase, the result be anything but brotherly love.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.75 US • MATURE READERS

100 BULLETS: STRYCHNINE LIVES TP
Written by Brian Azzarello Art by Eduardo Risso
Cover by Dave Johnson
Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso's tale of power and revenge winds through Chicago, Miami, Atlantic City and Juarez in STRYCHNINE LIVES, collecting issues #59-67 of the award-winning series. With the Houses of the Trust warily circling each other, looking for the right angle to take in their impending war, the remaining Minutemen continue to pick their sides — and set up their own battle plans.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 26 • 224 pg, FC, $14.99 US • MATURE READERS

100 BULLETS: THE HARD WAY TP
Written by Brian Azzarello
Art by Eduardo Risso
Cover by Dave Johnson
Reoffered to coincide with 100 BULLETS: STRYCHNINE LIVES, this volume collects 100 BULLETS #50-58, unraveling the tangled mystery of the Trust as Wylie Times becomes the latest Minuteman to be reactivated by the Trust's one-time enforcer Agent Graves. But which side will he choose?
On sale March 29 • 224 pg, FC, $14.99 US • MATURE READERS • Relist

DMZ #5
Written by Brian Wood
Art by Wood & Riccardo Burchielli
Cover by Wood
After a few weeks of covering day-to-day life in the DMZ, Matty finally gets his first big news break: an interview with a notorious local tribal boss. However, when Matty arrives to the interview, who he finds sitting next to the crime boss could make for an even bigger scoop.
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

THE EXTERMINATORS #3
Written by Simon Oliver
Art by Tony Moore
Cover by Philip Bond
In Part 3 of the 5-part “Bug Brothers,” Henry gets a new partner: Stretch, a Zen master in a 10-gallon hat. When they visit an L.A. mental hospital to clean out the pests, they instead find horrific suffering and corruption — to which Stretch concocts a most creative response.
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

FABLES #47
Written by Bill Willingham
Art by Jim Fern & Jimmy Palmiotti
Cover by James Jean
In the conclusion of the 2-part story “The Ballad of Rodney and June,” it's love in the time of conquest. But how can their love survive when they're both made of wood? It seems they have only one chance: travel to the Imperial Homeworld to petition Gepetto himself to transform them into real flesh and blood.
On sale March 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.75 US • MATURE READERS

HELLBLAZER: PAPA MIDNITE TP
Written by Mat Johnson Art by Tony Akins & Dan Green
Cover by Ronald Wimberly
The King of Voodoo has a long history, but where did it all begin? The answer can be found in HELLBLAZER: PAPA MIDNITE, collecting the acclaimed 5-issue Vertigo miniseries that follows the story of the curse that made Midnite immortal, from its origin in 1712 through the failed slave rebellion of 1741 and into the present day, where he continues to pay the price for his original sin.
Advance-solicited; on sale April 5 • 128 pg, FC, $12.99 US • MATURE READERS

HELLBLAZER #218
Written by Denise Mina
Art by Leonardo Manco
Cover by Greg Lauren
Part 3 of the 7-part story “Empathy is the Enemy,” written by acclaimed author Denise Mina. On the highway to Glasgow, John encounters a forgotten acquaintance from his troubled youth. Coincidence, or a set up engineered by a shadowy sect rooted in nine centuries of Scottish mysticism? Constantine senses that the end of this road may be too dark even for him.
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.75 US • MATURE READERS

HELLBLAZER: LADY CONSTANTINE TP
Written by Andy Diggle
Art by Goran Sudzuka
Cover by Phil Noto
Collecting the four-issue HELLBLAZER SPECIAL miniseries written by THE LOSERS’ Andy Diggle and illustrated by Goran Sudzuka (guest artist on Y: THE LAST MAN), HELLBLAZER: LADY CONSTANTINE tells the story of Johanna Constantine, 18th-century ancestor of today's Hellblazer, whose reputation for sorcery lands her a job that promises a future of wealth and entitlement in — and almost certain death and damnation in the frozen North Sea!
On sale March 29 • 96 pg, FC, $9.99 US • MATURE READERS

LOVELESS #6
Written by Brian Azzarello
Art by Danijel Zezelj
Cover by Marcelo Frusin
Featuring guest art by Danijel Zezelj (EL DIABLO, CONGO BILL)! America’s dirty and violent underside was exposed during the Civil War and Reconstruction. However, for Atticus Mann, a former slave turned Freeman, the struggle to survived was doubled in the face of racism and brutality.
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

LUCIFER #72
Written by Mike Carey
Art by Peter Gross & Aaron Alexovich
Cover by Michael Wm. Kaluta
Concluding the 2-part “Evensong.” In the realm of his old enemy, Izanami, Lucifer must once again take back what is his. But this time there are no challenges or ambushes, and no traps except for one — which the Morningstar walks into with his eyes wide open.
On sale March 29 • 32 pg, FC, $2.75 US • MATURE READERS

NEIL GAIMAN’S NEVERWHERE #7
Written by Mike Carey
Art and cover by Glenn Fabry
Neil Gaiman’s classic tale of urban fantasy spins toward its mind-boggling conclusion. Richard must endure the Black Friars’ ordeal, taking him to the blackest heart of his inner demons. His only objective: to survive — while the Marquis de Carabas meets an even crueler fate at the hand of Mr. Croup.
On sale March 29 • 7 of 9 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

SWAMP THING #25
Written by Josh Dysart
Art by Dean Ormston
Cover by Eric Powell
The spotlight focuses on Swamp Thing’s love Abby in a special stand-alone story. After their long-awaited reunion, the madness of the swamp re-invades her life. Trapped in a rape crisis center, she must fight for her life against monsters that may forever change her relationship with the world’s Earth Elemental…
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

TESTAMENT #4
Written by Douglas Rushkoff
Art and cover by Liam Sharp
Abraham’s epic war with the Anakim giants reverberates through time, as Alan Stern steels himself to do battle with an army of gargantuan war machines. But his true enemy is a force more powerful than any robot.
On sale March 22 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

Y: THE LAST MAN #43
Written by Brian K. Vaughan
Art by Pia Guerra & Jose Marzan Jr.
Cover by Massimo Carnevale
Co-creator Pia Guerra returns as a new storyline begins! The last man and his companions finally reach Japan in search of Ampersand, Yorick's long-lost pet and the key to mankind's return. They're one step closer to learning who or what killed all the other males, but how many of Yorick's friends will live to hear the answer?
On sale March 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • MATURE READERS

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/cover6/perez_cvr.htm

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

From the Onion:

One Year Later
by Various Writers & Artists
(DC)
Buy It!
Email Print March 28th, 2006


Infinite Crisis is DC Comics' first major "everything will change" crossover event in years, and though post-Crisis On Infinite Earths shakeups from The Final Night to Zero Hour have routinely ended in unreadable books and mangled continuity, this new one promised to be as genuinely deck-clearing as the original Crisis. Coming on the heels of the Brad Meltzer-penned superhero mystery Identity Crisis—which set a new standard for icons behaving badly—and the excessively grim Countdown To Infinite Crisis miniseries, Infinite Crisis had a chance to revamp the philosophical underpinnings of the DC Universe, replacing the dark, conflicted heroes that Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman had become with the sunnier versions from decades past. But the as-yet-incomplete series has taken a different turn, and now seems to be about why DC can't go back to what it was. Meanwhile, DC is rolling out its "One Year Later" concept, resetting 20-odd titles to a year after the conclusion of Infinite Crisis, and confirming that nothing significant will change.

Leaving aside the ethics of stringing along superhero-comics fans with one event after another—including the soon-to-debut weekly series 52, which will fill in the gaps between Infinite Crisis and "One Year Later"—what's most galling is that the latest set of remodels leaves the DC Universe even messier than it was one year ago. There are duplicate Nightwings on the streets, Hawkman has been retitled Hawkgirl, Catwoman has had a baby (and trained a replacement Catwoman), Black Canary has left the Birds Of Prey (and been replaced by a former villain), Supergirl has joined The Legion Of Super-Heroes, Green Arrow is the mayor of his city, and super-teams from The Teen Titans to The Outsiders have been restaffed. And since nearly every "One Year Later" issue ends on a cliffhanger, the stories are bound to get even more complicated. So much for bringing in new readers.

The news isn't all dreary. While the retooled Batman comics (penned by the usually reliable James Robinson) have been flatly dull, the new take on Superman (co-scripted by Kurt Busiek and Geoff Johns) is highly entertaining so far, with unexpected twists. Busiek's new version of Aquaman also has potential, though the first issue is a little confusing, and both Catwoman and the New Orleans-set Hawkgirl (the latter co-created by veterans Walt Simonson and Howard Chaykin) have made refreshing new starts. But all these new heroes and concepts are clearly meant to parallel Julius Schwartz's late-'50s Silver Age recreations of The Flash, Green Lantern, et. al., and these "One Year Later" books simply aren't that radical. They have more in common with the bad old days of the late-'80s/early-'90s speculator boom, when everything was touted as an epochal event and characters were killed off willy-nilly, to be replaced by grimmer versions. The faces and the costumes may change, but the guiding principle still seems to be finding ways to separate comics fans from their money.

A.V. Club Ratings:
Action Comics, B+;
Aquaman: Sword Of Atlantis, B;
Batman, C-;
Birds Of Prey, C+;
Blood Of The Demon, D;
Catwoman, B+;
Detective Comics, D+;
Firestorm: The Nuclear Man, D;
Green Arrow, D+;
Green Lantern, A-;
Hawkgirl, B;
JSA, C-;
JSA Classified, B-;
Nightwing, C;
Outsiders, D;
Robin, B-;
Superman, A-

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

THEY STOLE MY GRADING SYSTEM

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, I thought the same thing.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

man this shit gives me a headache

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

yah i have no fucking clue about what the fuck is going on anymore fuck this shit. why is lois and supe all old in the hell thing with alex luthor and why is superboy also named clark kent? wtf?

shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Thursday, 30 March 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

MULTIVERSE

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

MULTIVITAMIN

BTW, Batman (#651) can eat a bag of dicks.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Not that there's anything wrong w/ that.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

OMG MAJOR SPOILERS SOMEONE DIES AND HIS NAME IS...

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

SPIDER-MAN

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

BEEFEATER

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

BOB SEGER

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

(but it's the Bob Seger of Earth-8, so no worries, ROCK FANS)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

(and Earth-8 Bob Seger is totally into disco, so like, GOOD RIDDANCE, AMIRITE ROCK FANS?)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, didn't Earth-8 Seger shill for Ford, instead of Chevy? LOSER.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

(someone needs to photoshop bob seger's face onto the Anti-Monitor)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

This isn't that bad, actually. Nothing that couldn't be done in half the number of pages, obviously. I'm a bit confused, have the space guys moved over to earth, or is that big vortex that they're hanging around Alex's lab, where his hands appear to mash earths together (which then appear back in earthspace)?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

Back in the 90s I liked the character who died a lot, but the way they'd been written recently was pretty awful.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

They didn't kill Azrael. Say it aint so!!!

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

No Pete, I'm afraid it's Anima.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Nooo! Lobo!!!

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda like this Mr. Terrific guy. I like that his costume is horribly tacky, but in a sort of believable way.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

not many superheros would dare to buy their jacket off Camden Market

Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

have the space guys moved over to earth, or is that big vortex that they're hanging around Alex's lab, where his hands appear to mash earths together (which then appear back in earthspace

It's all Alex Luthor's Myspace.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

also: ONE MORE GEOFF JOHNS HEADSMASH FOR THE ROAD! With bonus eyeballs (on loan from Marvel Zombies).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

My initial hate for this series has now turned into full-on love/hate.

Why Johns didn't take this opportunity to bring back the single best concept anybody in comics has ever thought of is beyond me, though.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

You mean the Multiverse?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

You mean THE RAVERS??

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

No-one ever calls Mr Terrific, Mr T - which is a pity because if I was in the JSA I would. Mind you if I was in the JSA...

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

The REAL reason for Infinite Crisis?
http://www.newsarama.com/general/smallville.html

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Did the dead person really need to have a severed arm on the last splash page?

I have to admit I've quite enjoyed this series so far. I couldn't call it "quality" in any sense, but it's good fun. I've liked it more than most DC comics that I've read in the past year or so (that were not written by Grant Morrison or Kurt Busiek.)

...agree with douglas about the multiverse thing, though.

...also, impatient for 52 now.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 6 April 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also, is "fanwank" even a term of abuse in a comics discussion?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 6 April 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

What? The spoilerrific dead character is missing a hand? Let me check OMG HE IS how will he lead the Ravers now?

Hands in the air like you just don't care, Superb- NOOOO YOU ONLY HAVE ONE!! AND YOU'RE A ZOMBIE!! Techno techno techno techno CORE!!!

I plan to explore this new facet of the dancetastic DCU in a fanfic called "Zombies are good, zombies are good, he's Ebenzombeezer Goode!!" Featuring Hero! Watch for it.

Vic F (Vic Fluro), Friday, 7 April 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yet another exploding head I believe too, with an eyeball in the foreground. Bring the horror back home.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps we will get a new Psycho Pirate who is ACTUALLY A PIRATE.

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think there was also some brane

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

And a psycho. I must admit I was more upset about the PP's death than that of Anima's. The eyeball was excellent and all, but it is a shame to lose a the PP as he always struck me as a nattily dressed loony villain.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

GJ seemed to be trialing some sort of redemption plot for PP, er, not sure what happened there

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

Precisely how is one redeemed by having one's BRANE pushed out through the back of one's head?

Answers on a postcard please...


Worst issue yet. Is it me or does #6 make even less sense than usual? Because, of course, it was making lots up to that point, I'm sure you'll agree..

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

TS: "I'm the only one who remembers" vs. PUNCH HIS BRANE OUT

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

Power Girl didn't exactly go all out with the "Ohs noes, if we kill then we are just as bad as the baddies" routine.

I am wondering what is going to happen in the final issue - presumably WW, Superman and Batman defeat Bad Superboy, making friends and deciding to stop being annoying in the process. Then Wonder Woman says "OK, so what's my origin this time???" Everyone else fights the Secret society of villains in NY and then the Spectre shows up and tells everyone to stop messing around and go home?

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Also Blue Beetle pisses off the Green Lanterns in some way.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, that's a good question: is the Blue Beetle series OYL? It seemed to be happening right after IC.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't have a One Year Later logo on the cover, if that's any indication.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Mind you, it's not like it had a previous issue to jump a year ahead from...but I agree, it seems to pick up immediately after BOOM CRASH.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

for the lonely and curious
http://www.crisis2crisis.com/

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

potential spoilers now removed from the wiki-crisis page (superboy punched the internet):

The following POTENTIAL SPOILERS are from a comic book distributer who claimed to have seen an advance draft copy of IC7:

Superboy Prime will be consumed by the Parallax entity, who will then be defeated by Ion (Kyle Rayner)
Alexander Luther and Kal-L will die fighting each other
Kal-El will allow the Spectre to "remove" his powers to "inspire" other heroes to think of their human, rather than super-human, sides
Wonder Woman and Batman will share a kiss as Bruce forgives Diana for her killing Max Lord

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

oh wow...

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Halfway across the world, Sasha Bordeaux starts idly twisting the heads off bunnies.

Parallax is ringing some bells, is it the "and now we kill Hal Jordan" thing? Has it been seen since?

Also "How old is Geoff Johns etc". I hope that Superman is reminded of his essential humanity by Snapper Carr, who has aged normally since the 50s and now looks like Alex Ross's da. Superman thanks him for reminding us all of this vital fact and, as a final gesture before depowering, idly twists his head off.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I love you Andrew.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I like the "scare quotes" around "remove" and "inspire," as that's kinda how I "feel" about these "revelations."

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think my "post" makes any "sense."

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

do you feel "removed" or "inspired"?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

"remove" is because there's a get-out clause: there's a pair of bank-robbers in Kalamazoo that have to bump power bands uglies once every 24 hours or Superman gets his powers back. As we rejoin them one year later, tensions are starting to rise....

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think I feel "inspired" and removed all at once, actually.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Not a "dream"! Not an "imaginary" story!

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

IN THIS ISSUE: SHIT GETS PUNCHED

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

This last issue was so unbearably terrible as to be unbearable.

Add "quote marks" as you so desire.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Weirdly, I think that this issue was the only issue of Infinite Crisis that I found to be entertaining as something other than for its trainwreck quality.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't remember where I posted the original Outsiders Gay Sex, but I think it was this thread.
Anyway, DAN DIDIO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GAY PEOPLE:
http://progressiveruin.com/archives/2006_04_16_archive.html#114547420748946199

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone actually use the phrase "gay sex"?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, "gay sex" is certainly more common than "the gay sex."

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

this is actually pretty cool. I have no idea what it's for (some sort of card game?).
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/dc/en/teaser.aspx

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

anybody got question for me to ask didio for the last Crisis Condescending session at Nooserama?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

WAHT IS IT MADE?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
So! Upon reflection...what was the point of this, exactly? I'm not really seeing much of a point, myself. Or have we not yet reached the vantage from which we'll be able to discern the point? Was it all just a set-up for OYL and 52...which, in turn, are a set-up for something else down the road? Or (gasp) was it nothing but a big-ass waste of (some people's) money?

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

Well you know how in 1984, there's a state of perpetual emergency that keeps a certain order? That's sorta the idea - they want to create this sense that everything is always a big event but nothing ever really changes.

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

an ORWELLIAN move by DC!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

In this context the Brother Eye thing is sorta cheeky.

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Clearly, it was all to set up the new Uncle Sam & the Freedom Fighters series.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome savaging of IC here.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)


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