THE DARK KNIGHT, aka Batman Begins A Little More: Sequel Anticipation/Rumours/Etc.

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http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html has the following juicy nuggets:

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 6:37 AM CENTRAL TIME: OK, here's a bit more regarding what we may see in the BEGINS sequel:

"I won't reveal all the villains, but I'll leave a few hints that the avid comic fan should be able to decipher. One will be an ambiguous mob boss with ties to the late Dr. Thomas Wayne. Another will be an industrial heir not unlike Bruce Wayne - in fact it could be said that he is a dark mirror of Bruce. Over the course of the story, he will be forced to present a new 'face.' And then we have a small, almost cameo type [appearence by a] villain who is considered a 'classic rouge' as a British arms dealer. It may sound a bit crowded, but it all fits together, makes sense, and works much like a comic story arc."

Sarah Essen may now work for the ATF.

"As for the villains plot, the mob boss and the heir get involved with a major arms deal with the 'British Guy,' while Batman and his allies attempt to foil it. [As a result,] they uncover more of the corruption plauging Gotham. Unfortunatly for both sides, nobody knew there was a Joker in the deck who complicates matters."

Again, take this with a grain of salt, but interesting nonetheless...

and

Monday, October 10, 2005 - 8:49 AM CENTRAL TIME: Hey y'all, Jett here, coming to you today from Dallas (33, Philadelphia 10 - hehehehe). Anyway, an "industry insider" sent us some info about what we might expect in the upcoming sequel. He warns us to take this with a qrain of salt, so, uh, get out the shaker:

"All the major characters from the first film aside from the villains are back."

"Two additions to the cast of 'good guys:' Harvey Dent and Sarah Essen."

"[The] Joker will be in this film, although he will be just one of several major villains."

"The Joker. I won't spoil things for you but those expecting an exact translation of [the Character] from the comics, in terms of costume, you will be disappointed. However, let may say that this Joker will be the 'The Joker;' the way character is written is very faithful to [how] he is in the comics and I can see why WB is not interested in actors like Crispin Glover or Johnny Depp."

Now there's a bit more, but I'll hold off on it right now. Is this source legit? Don't know for sure - so all of you should keep that in mind (When I tell you to set it in stone, set it in stone). But I'll say this: a lot of what he told me jives with what I've heard. So, the guy's legit, a good guesser, or Ms. Cleo...

A request to Warner Bros. from the "guys overseas." I've been asked to relay the message that the troops in the Middle East would love to see BATMAN BEGINS over there - in particular Camp Jersey, Kuwait. Guys, consider the message relayed. Hope it helps...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

If something "jives" with what you've heard, isn't that a bad thing? If it "jibes", on the other hand...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

villain who is considered a 'classic rouge'

Uh, the Red Hood?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

CLITORIS

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

they uncover more of the corruption plauging Gotham

Script by Don Martin!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Shit it seems villains will be boring again!

― iodine (iodine), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

I liked the rumour mentioned on AICN a while ago that Sean Penn was going to play the Joker.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Paul Bettany, I read. Perfect.

― David N (David N.), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

perfectly shitty!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

S1ocki, stop that!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

Ray Liotta's ready for his close-up, BTW.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

Someone can make a joke re: Bettany & The Da Vinci Code, right?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

i am so walking away from this franchise if they cast bettany as the joker.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 October 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh fuck. Ray Liotta as the Joker would be awesome. Hell, Ray Liotta as a Frank Miller Batman would ROOL.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I think Liotta was up for the role in the "original" Batman!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

in 1966?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

He was? I always thought he woulda been a great grim n gritty Batman based on his abusive boyfriend role in "Something Wild."

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

NOTE THE SCARE QUOTES CHUCK-LZZZ.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Clearly, Liotta must be cast in Sin City 2.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

excerpt from Denny O'Neil's BB novelization, includes Bruce Wayne identifying with Siddharta Gautama, AKA BUDDHA!

http://www.randomhouse.com/rhpg/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780345479464&view=excerpt

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

A bizzare rumour:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21542

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Danny Glover to be the Joker?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

No, Pam Grier.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Well, whoever they pick will be more frightening by default than either Topher Grace or Thomas Hayden Church.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I'm out of my mind, but I honestly thought that if Daniel Dumile (MF DOOM) had played Dr. Doom, and Latveria had been transformed into a tiny, oil rich African Monarchy, FF could have been a whole good movie instead of a half good movie.

So with that in mind, Ghostface should play the Joker.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe Kool Keith.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Latveria had been transformed into a tiny, oil rich African Monarchy

Wakanda?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Okay, waaaaay off topic now, but here I go...

With an African Dr. Doom, you can play up the idea that he's despotic and crazy, but also has some kind of a point with his anti-imperialist views. Make Mr. Fantastic into more of a patriotic stooge-type (brilliant and compassionate, but uninterested in politics except to the degree that they can help get funding for his wacky science theories.) Doom's mutilation comes from a collaborative effort with Reed on new eco-friendly drilling technology happening simultaneously with the Four getting their powers in space - no, actually cook up some way to link them up. That way you get a better angle on Ben sympathizing with Doom's mutilation, and get the politics angle in the wedge between him and Reed. I could go on, but that would mean thinking more about it, and since there's no chance it'll ever happen, I don't see any reason to bother.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

So the Scarecrow won't be featured in the sequel? That's a shame, because in the first film he was a much better villain than the French bloke.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Good stuff Austin! I'd watch/read that.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Danny Glover to be the Joker?
-- Huk-L (handsomishbo...) (webmail), October 13th, 2005. (link)
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No, Pam Grier.

-- chap who would dare to kill all the threads (joe.goode...) (webmail), October 13th, 2005. (link)

Danny Glover to be Pam Grier?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Batman Begins 2: The Crying Game

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

NIGHTWANG

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Comicbookresources.com reports:
Director Christopher Nolan gave a couple of choice quotes to BoxOfficeMojo about the planned sequel, which he will tackle after "The Prestige." "Batman is positive, but I believe that, in the first couple of years, he's going to find an increasingly negative response from society, because the truth is that, when you have a powerful, negative city like Gotham, it didn't become corrupt by accident, and those entrenched people are going to respond very vigorously ... that's the point of the final scene. That [fighting evil] is not going to be easy. It's going to get harder."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Comicbookresources.com reports that Batmanonfilm.com reports that there might be the possibility of a rumour concerning Bob Hoskins as Oswald Cobblepot (aka the Penguin), which reminds me that I watched the Hoskins/Freeman/Li/Besson flick Unleashed a few weeks ago, and thought it was a perfect comic book movie even though (to the best of my knowledge) it is not based on a comic book.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

it would be weird if the second batman movie in this series was ALSO a penguin movie.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Fortunately/unfortunately, we can pretty much rule out a Catwoman appearance.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Meow.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

unfortunately!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

S1ocki, are you Comic Movie Bizzaro Critic or something?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Wouldn't the unfortunateness come from a lack of Halle?

― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

YOU ENJOYED X2 AND HAVE NO RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/ringmaster/ringmaster3.jpg

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) LEATHER PANTS

― Dan (ROWR) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Isn't Batman known as Leather Pants in some circles abroad?

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Halle ~~Perry~~ Berry as Batman is maybe the greatest casting implication I've ever heard.

― Dan (ROWRWOR) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Supposably, rumors are jibing about Hugo Weaving being considered for Joking.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:26 (twenty years ago)

i'd be cool with that

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

that'd really make him king of the nerdlingers huh

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

That'd be two villains in a row nearly old enough to be Bruce Wayne's father. I'm not sure if I have a problem with that, necessarily, but we kind of already have a Spider-Man franchise.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

haha, how great would it be if they found some way to make bruce wayne's father the villain of the next movie?? it's so wrongheaded that it'd have to work out!

― dave k, Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:56 (twenty years ago)

Considering that teenagers are the biggest focus group for superhero fioms, isn't it kinda logical that the villains are the age of their parents? I mean, what is Batman Begins if not Bruce figuring his father is wrong and commiting patricide?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Sorry if that was a bit unclear, by "father" I meant Ras Al Ghul.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:08 (twenty years ago)

er it's fucking up the guy WHO KILLED HIS FATHER?

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 23 February 2006 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Batman Begins is ALL ABOUT BW's search for (and rejection of) the perfect Father Figure, from Falcone to Ducard to Ra's Al Ghul to Rutger Hauer to Lucius Fox to Gordon AND FINALLY HE REALIZES HIS PAPA WAS RIGHT THERE ALL ALONG, ALFRED.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

That makes the Scarecrow some kind of retarded sibling rivalry then?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Given all the DADDY issues running around the Big Two, I'm surprised Spielberg hasn't attached himself to any of these types of projects yet.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking Tom Cruise, but hey, two birds. Cruise will soon be old enough to play the father figure to a younger actor in a movie about a guy with father figure issues! And so the student becomes the master, etc.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Ha - War of the Worlds came SO CLOSE.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Mabye Madonna?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I saw Christ!an Bale on the London Underground once.

― I'vebeenwaitingtosaythisfor3years (Jocelyn), Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Is he hott in real life?

― Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Was he speaking English or American?

― chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

He's nice-looking in real life (he had a few-days growth of beard), and he was speaking English English. He looked like he was with family so I didn't want to bother him. This was around the time of the Machinist so he was pretty thin.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:34 (twenty years ago)

That's a really, really good movie, The Machinist, it is, pip pop.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:37 (twenty years ago)

All of Britain is flocking to Canada to beat Huk with umbrellas.

― Dan (Worse Than MY Fake British Accent, Wow) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Was that Huk doing English? Wow, I didn't realise.

― chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

And no true Englishman would ever sully a good umbrella upon the head of a disagreeable colonial type, thank you Mr. Perry. Throw stale crumpets at the blighter, that's the ticket.

― chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Crickets!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:27 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

OH EM GEE.

― c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

PIP POP

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Krikey!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

(isn't Ledger Australian?)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oy!

As for the choice - hell, just because he's gorgeous and named after a candy bar doesn't mean he can't do the job.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Mark Hamill's voice coming from Ledger's body...

Glorious, innit?

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe HL will do a Mel Gibson homage - you know, dislocate his shoulder and talk about the f*cking Jews ruining the world.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Good thing there are no Mel Gibsons in the comic industry.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ahhh, MODS strike that, please. It'll be taken out of context and I'll feel terrible.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

IT'S A FACT: Stan Lee is Asian!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Bob Kang!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Joe Rubensteino!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Bruce Wang!

― c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Julius Schwartzenegger

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

CLARK KIM!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone else think Brokeback = BANE???

― c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I WILL QUIT THE BATMAN

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sean penn would've been better.

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

You, sir, are drunk.

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

This thread would be incomplete if I didn't note that Velvet Goldmine in conjunction with Brokeback Mountain. Will there FINALLY be joker-on-bat love?

― J (Jay), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, no.

Except maybe in the subtext...

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 5 August 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Does 'subtext' mean 'ass'?

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

No.

Wait...

Um, yes?

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

sez Bale: "I just love that title," Bale said. "You know, nothing's written in stone yet, but I like, very much, that it doesn't have 'Batman' written in the title. This take on Batman of mine and Chris' is very different from any of the others and everything else always had Batman in the title. I think this is kind-of distancing it even further and saying, 'Hey, this is a whole different creature from what has come before.'"

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

"whole different creature" = MAN BAT!

What are odds that Nolan is going to make Joker a hermetic serial killer whom we don't see for the first half of the film?

― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

32-1

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I will put money on seeing Joker pre-full-body-dye-job for at least the first quarter of the movie.

OMG GUYS WHAT IF HE GETS A KILLING JOKE ORIGIN STORY.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Alan Moore can throw a hissy fit and demand NO CREDIT, thus generating more publicity for his role in the film than merely not doing anything at all.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe they should start giving him cameos like Stan Lee for to make him happy.

IMDb credits include:
Homeless Guy in Narrows - The Dark Knight
Crazy Man in Sewers - V for Vendetta 2: MORE VENDETTERED
Man Living in Trash Can that is Exploded in Fantastic Chase Scene - Paul Greengrass' Watchmen
Captain Hook - Lost Girls: A Cinemax Original Movie

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Charles Darwin's opium-crazed brother - LOEXG II

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Chester - Swamp Thing Begins

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

THE VOICE OF MOGO - GREEN LANTRON

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

Maggie Gyllenhaal Begins

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Say what you will about the 89-90s Batmovies, but at least they had age-appropriate Bat-love-interests.

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

THE LOVE THAT DARE NOT CARRY THE ONE

Christian Bale: born 9/30/74
Maggie Gyllenhaal: born 11/16/77

― David R., Friday, 9 March 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/pics/arrested2.jpg
Her?

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Maebe?

― David R., Friday, 9 March 2007 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Ha - I posted that before I saw the pic!

― David R., Friday, 9 March 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/234/550124275_fcac79f545_o.jpg

― river wolf, Friday, 15 June 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

...

― river wolf, Friday, 15 June 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

but who is that wearing it?

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

CBR in "exclusive set photos" embarassment

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

is this standard fare for "set photos" or wtf?

― Dr. Superman, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

sez Two-Face:

I guess Batman is just trying to make sense of what's going on and trying to fight a fight that maybe he doesn't totally understand.

mmmmmmmm

― Dr. Superman, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

possibly the current LOTDK, er Batman Confidential story is a reflection of at least the themes?

― Dr. Superman, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

now i've got worry

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think any of the Batfilms have had a particularly great script. It's all about the execution.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 19 July 2007 08:28 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I saw the teaser at Bourne Ult. yesterday, and it works about 1,000,000x better on a GIANT SCREEN!

― Dr. Superman, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I've never seen Hugo Weaving bald, but by his face and the characters he has played, I think he could also make a good Hugo Strange.

― earlnash, Saturday, 11 August 2007 03:33 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Goodnight, Nurse!

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 4 April 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

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― Oilyrags, Friday, 4 April 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/dknight3.jpg

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 4 April 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

That hair combined with the makeup makes him look more like Juggalo than The Joker.

― Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still not sure whether I really wanna see a goth Joker.

― Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:06 (seventeen years ago)

Bat-Marketers have too much time on their hands (and so do I):
http://media.ibelieveinharveydent.com/0413081500.mp3

― Dr. Superman, Monday, 14 April 2008 16:09 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Hey, how about some smoke for your ass (courtesy of IFC's Indie Eye blog):

David Poland: "This is not a Batman movie... this is a 2008 version of The Untouchables with The Batman as Elliot Ness, The Joker as Al Capone, much better toys, and, it seems, a topper."

Peter Travers: "It's enough to watch Bale chillingly render Batman as a lost warrior, evoking Al Pacino in The Godfather II in his delusion and desolation. It's enough to see Ledger conjure up the anarchy of the Sex Pistols and A Clockwork Orange as he creates a Joker for the ages."

Richard Corliss: "In its rethinking and transcending of a schlock source, The Dark Knight is up there with David Cronenberg's 1986 version of The Fly. It turns pulp into dark poetry."

Off-topic: I am hoping TDK is nothing @ all like DePalma's The Untouchables, which was some uneven duct-taped bullshit saved only by Sean Connery & Billy Drago.

― David R., Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

Also, Richard Corliss can lick a nippled breastplate.

― David R., Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

comic book movies are not for kids anymore!

― Jordan, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

Hopefully, other enterprising critics with heads firmly ensconced up their effete asses will make sure to reference one or all of the following: Scorscese / Ford / Borzage / Kurosawa / Cimino / Malick / Herzog / Turtletaub.

― David R., Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

damn nolan et al for trying to turn this bullshit into cinema

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

do you guys also hate on 'unfaithful' adaptations of literary novels?

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

Nah, I just hate that film critic cliche about pulp films that "transcend their genre" -- or "schlock source" as Corliss calls it -- because (a) it's 2008, and people who still get snooty about genre fiction really need to get a life and (b) really, how can a film about a guy dressing a bat costume (even a clever one) really not be schlock?

I mean, I speak as someone who likes schlock... (I am posting on a comic board in the mid-afternoon, after all).

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry, "dressing up in bat costume"

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

lol i thought this was the 'official' (ile) dark knight thread sry

i dont read comics carry on

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

That said, I'm super excited about this. Who wouldn't be?

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

altho to try to save myself i will say that i think you guys should ease up on people turning genre fiction into cinematic art - thats sort of what movies are all about, they are different forms & its ridic important to recognize that xp

me too!

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

and iget what you mean 'comics are art' or whatever - but like i said if a director made a more or less shot-for-shot adaptation of a literary novel id be bored as fuck; if we're gonna assume comics+novels+movies are all equal art forms than each artist has to be allowed to put his own stamp on the story

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

try reading again, deeznuts:

I just hate that critic cliche about pulp films that "transcend their genre"

― David R., Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

x-post

Agreed, there's nothing wrong with trying to turn a genre into art -- although god forbid someone should make a movie of a Jeph Loeb Batman comic -- but I imagine the people who make the more basic genre stuff think they're making art, too...

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

yeah you have right to be insulted but still movie critics favoring movies over comic books, & referencing movies they love when referring to a movie they love

aint that bad really

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

Don't mind me -- I'm writing a CD review about a band that transcends its schlocky metal roots and aspires to be as great as Jawbox or Fugazi.

― David R., Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

also the idea that pulp film can transcend its genre doesnt in any way mean pulp books or comics cant as well

xp thats a dumb comparison because its suggesting one genre is better than the other, which is not what film critics mean when they say a film transcends it material

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

And what are the connotations of "schlock" in your world, nuts?

― David R., Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:37 (seventeen years ago)

im not gonna be a douche & take some bullshit tack that corliss is saying TDK isnt better than its original material (he is, & it probably is) - but a)he's a film critic, not comic book guy & b) turning 'pulp' into 'poetry' is a stape of great flicks...taking simplistic plots & concepts & enhancing them thru the visual medium which is yr territory

i know comics do this too but id much much rather watch a movie than read a comic book, but thats just me (and like 80 billion other people)

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

Coming into the comics board and arguing about the superiority of movies to comics - based on a movie you haven't seen and (I'm just guessing here) comics you haven't read.

APPLES!

ORANGES!

I SAID APPLES DAMNIT!

― Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

dont disagree w/ any of that oily! but we're talking about transference to transcendence - the whole def of the latter is about taking the limits of the former & exceeding them: im not trying to argue taht movies are better than comics (though they are) but the whole idea of 'filming' a book or comic isnt transferring the source to a new larger group of people but saying this is how you make a great movie motherfuckers

― deeznuts, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

im not trying to argue taht movies are better than comics (though they are)

BAN

― Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

I was offered FREE TIX to an advance IMAX screening, but there's no Vancouver show on the list. Nearest one is Seattle, or there's Edmonton. Probably not a good allocation of funds (one plane/train/bus ticket vs paying to see TDK) considering everything.

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 11 July 2008 06:09 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

So....?

Finally saw this last night, haven't really collected thoughts, but I was very impressed.

What did YOU think?

― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 25 July 2008 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

I saw it for the second time last night. So yeah, it kinda kicked ass a lot. Much talk in the ILE thread about how it's much more a cop flick than a superhero flick, and wishing for a Gotham Central movie or miniseries starring Gary Oldman. Sounds good to me!

― Oilyrags, Friday, 25 July 2008 21:14 (seventeen years ago)

I think it paves the way for an amazing Renee Montoya flick.

― Mordy, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

I had to supress a giggle the first time Batman spoke (finally saw it last night).

― Dr. Superman, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

Funny, I had to suppress a giggle every time Batman spoke. Especially when he was having fairly lengthy conversations with Gordon and Dent.

I thought the whole thing was kind of awful. Non-stop, poorly filmed action. I've heard people make the argument that it's more of a crime epic, but I'm not sure that makes it a better movie.

― arango, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

"Why so serious?"

The irony was rich, so very rich.

― Matt M., Monday, 28 July 2008 04:19 (seventeen years ago)

Mixed reaction - Nolan has little use for ostentatious visuals, which is certainly peculiar, and a lack of grace when it comes to rhythm. Also: The film goes DEAD when ever Bat/Bruce is the focal point, really he's just there to structure the whole PHILOSOPHY 101 (with fists!)shenanigans. BUT: god, Ledger's good - the "nurse drag" sequence is pretty much imprinted in my mind, with the exploding hospital as a genuinely brilliant closer.

More to come, if I'm bored...

― R Baez, Monday, 28 July 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

Am I the only who saw Captain America's sheild?

― Dr. Superman, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 05:11 (seventeen years ago)

BANNED

― David R., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 05:20 (seventeen years ago)

Very conflicted about this film a handful of hours after my first viewing... I think it has a brilliant film lurking somewhere within its two and a half hours, but as it stands it's flabby and way too talky. We don't need the subtext to every scene explained to us by the characters several times, thanks.

The Joker was just astounding though, not only in terms of the performance but in the way he was written. Loved how the character's past was left a complete enigma. BUT I didn't buy Two-Face at all, partially because Eckhart was badly miscast - smarmy and unlikable as a do-gooder and utterly unconvincing as a psychopath.

― chap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

Remarkable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWpmPGCR1c&feature=related

― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone following the ILE Dark Knight thread by the way? I was going to post on there, but it's massive and seems to be getting very abstract. Worth reading?

― chap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

i liked the after-credits scene where green lantern shows up at bruce wayne's house and asks him to join the JLA.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but I dunno about the casting of Luis Guzman as Hal Jordan.

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

I am okay with the casting of Luis Guzman as anything.

Black Canary? Bring it on!

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, the ILE DK thread is kind of interesting, but it's kind of degenerated mostly into the same people saying "it IS political" vs. "it ISN'T" for about 50 posts.

― Nhex, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

a list of "superlatives used to describe Ledger’s work"

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

hollywood patting itself on the back shockaaaahhhh.

― ian, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

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