Best comic of the 00s nomination thread

I know there's already this thread:

End of Decade Polls: Nominations Thread:
End of Decade Polls: Nominations Thread

But I'd like to do a poll that's only about the best comic of the 00s. Did you (Dr Superman) want to do it too? If yes, let me know and I'll cancel this one.

Otherwise, this is the thread for nominating comics to be included in the "Best comic of the 00s" poll. Nomination deadline: January 7th, 2010. Will try to start poll shortly after.

You can nominate as many comics as you want, from any genre and country. Online comics too. The only requirement is that it was created in the 00s, ie no reprints.

My nominations:
Ice Haven -Daniel Clowes
Genesis -Robert Crumb
Bottomless Bellybutton -Dash Shaw

I'll post more as I think of them.

A lot of things I'd nominate came out in English in 00 but are mad old.
That aside:

The Photographer - Guibert
Treasury of Victorian Murder - Geary
Usagi Yojimbo - Sakai

"The only requirement is that it was created in the 00s, ie no reprints."

I want to appeal this for benefit of "I shall destroy all civilized worlds"

IF I MAY:

676 APPARITIONS OF KILLOFFER by Killoffer: Everyone should read this forever and ever and ever (INSERT INFINITE ELLIPSES!)
FUN HOME by Alison Bechdel
SEVEN SOLDIERS OF VICTORY by Grant Morrison and jillions of others.
et allllllllll....

MORE TO COME!

the comic at the end of 'I Shall Destroy' is a legit contender, but it needs the setup

Joann Sfar: The Rabbi's Cat, The Rabbi's Cat 2, Klezmer
Brian K. Vaughan: Y the Last Man
Warren Ellis: Transmetropolitan (last two years were this decade)
Bill Willingham: Fables
Terry Moore: Strangers in Paradise
Alison Bechdel: Fun Home
Fred Chao: Johnny Hiro
Alex Robinson: Tricked
David Small: Stitches

did strangers in paradise ever stop being cheap titillation? I stopped reading it YEARS ago

not to be a dick about it

"I want to appeal this for benefit of "I shall destroy all civilized worlds""

Sorry, but I'm being strict about the no reprints rule. The Karasik comic afterword is ok as a nominee though (but only on its own).

haha, i didn't realize there were any other SiP stans around here. love it to death but it definitely should've ended a few years earlier

it's weird, none of the books mentioned so far really jump out to me as BOOK OF THE DECADE where I will jump up and down for it, I feel like the best books I read this decade were reprints. like i would say Monster right now but of course that actually came out in the 90s. ditto for Love and Rockets. if hard pressed I might go with Morrison Bats. or Scott Pilgrim. Stitches and Y were pretty damn good too. Bellybutton... almost up there.

There's a slew of weird internet memes that manifest as a kind of comic and while they often don't qualify as "good" by traditional criteria, they certainly feel more representative of the 00s than any comic I can think of (except for, bizarrely enough, the Fletcher Hanks stuff), so maybe they should get honorable mentions in the hopes that there will one day be a 'Jimmy Corrigan'-caliber lolcat?

tbh, achewood belongs on this poll.

really? i'm a big achewood fan but mannnnnnn there is a lot to comb through to get to the good stuff. this is true for most webcomics, naturally

we need to clarify here what "best comic" means. Is it a body of work (say, all the GMoz Batstuff in the aughties), is it a discrete trade, is it an individual comic or can it be a much larger body of work like achewood 00 to '10?

I'd say everyone feel free to categorize away (single issue/arc/self-sufficient graphic novel/that panel in FOX TROT that squishes Bechdel, SERIOUSLY). That seems to be the way to go.

100 Demons - Barry
God gold and Golems - Sturm
Dungeon - Trondheim

I have a bunch of noms to include later but I'm in the end stages of a poker tournament, so for right now I'll just say --

Morrison/Quitely - WE3

"that panel in FOX TROT that squishes Bechdel, SERIOUSLY"
wha??

Matt Kindt: Super Spy
100 Bullets, surely!
Top 10

Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E.
Gødland

Final Crisis
52
Or Else
All-Star Superman
Sleeper

All I can think of at the moment. Ice Haven is my number one with a bullet, but it showed up in the first post (naturally).

Oh: NEW X-MEN, DUH.

Off the top of my head:

Alison Bechdel: Dykes to Watch Out For It's been a ongoing strip since the 1980s. I think it's been on a hiatus since 2008, but there's still several years' worth of strips from this decade.

Alan Moore & Zander Cannon: Smax. Miniseries.

Philippe Dupuy & Charles Berberian: Monsieur Jean. Ongoing series. It started in the 1990s, but three or four books have come out during this decade.

Cristophe Blain: Isaac the Pirate. Ongoing series.

Marjane Satrapi: Persepolis. Miniseries.

Marjane Satrapi: Embroideries. Graphic novel.

Brian K. Vaughan & various: Runaways. Ongoing series.

Dan Slott & Paul Pelletier & Rick Magyar: Great Lakes Avengers: Misassembled. Miniseries.

Will nominate more later.

Oh yeah, I'm only nominating Vaughan's run on Runaways, as I haven't read anything that came after it.

That means both Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, not just Vol. 1.

Tales Designed To Thrizzle

Black Panther volume 4 (Hudlin/various, but also a great "Secret Invasion" 3-parter by Jason Aaron/Jefte Palo.)
The Boys - Ennis/Robertson/various
Astonishing X-Men - Whedon/Cassaday
Queen and Country - Rucka/various
Ex Machina - Vaughan/Harris
Daredevil - Bendis/Maleev
Alias - Bendis/Gaydos
Powers - Bendis/Oeming

maybe some more later

ummm..... SEAGUY

Castle Waiting - Medley
Daredevil - Lark, Brubaker
Rutu Modan - exit wounds
Black Hole - Charles Burns
Can't get no - rick veitch
The Perry Bible Fellowship
You'll Never Know - Carol Tyler
The Mourning Star - Strzepek

Not trolling, honestly, but what did guys like so much about Ice Haven? Personally I thought it was weaker than Clowes' other work.

Oh yeah Black Hole definitely deserves a nom. Forgot about that one...

Ah, meant to nominate some online stuff.

Overcompensating - Jeffrey Rowland
Scary-Go-Round - John Allison
Achewood - Chris Onstad (mentioned above but I don't think formally nominated)

52 seconded
Nick Bertozzi's The Salon is a thing of much beauty and enjoyment

Paul has a Summer Job - Michel Rabagliati
Acme Comics Library #18 - Chris Ware
Marvel Zombies - Robert Kirkman and Sean Phillips
Walking Dead - Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard
Epileptic - David B
Gus - Chris Blain
Left Bank Gang - Jaxon
Wimbledon Green - Seth
99 Ways to Tell a Story - Matt Madden
Criminal - Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
New Avengers - Bendis/various artists
Notes for a War Story - Gipi
Wolverine: Enemy of the State - Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr
My Brain is Hanging Upside Down - David Heatley
Parker: The Hunter - Darwyn Cooke
Tamara Drewe - Posy Simmonds
Plastic Man - Kyle Baker
Gotham Central - Ed Brubaker, Greg Rucka, Michael Lark
Satiro-Plastic - Gary Panter

Rutu Modan - Exit Wounds
G. Willow Wilson - Cairo
G. Willow Wilson - Air
Bryan Lee O'Malley - Scott Pilgrim

Plastic Man - Kyle Baker
Special Forces - Kyle Baker

Ice Haven is the kind of comic that validates comics in that it couldn't have been made any other way. A lot of other comics seem to be only incidentally comics. Like Black Hole could just as easily have been a cartoon except it would have taken Burns 10000000 years to finish.

So I'd rate Ice Haven higher just for "comics are awesome by themselves!" boosterism but Clowes has already abandoned comics for movies so fat lot of good that does.

What the hell, while we're throwing in noms

Demo by Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan
Heavy Liquid by Paul Pope
Yotsuba&! by Kiyohiko Azuma
Pluto by Naoki Urasawa
Blankets by Craig Thompson
I Killed Adolf Hitler by Jason
DC's The New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke

also thinking Bone, but since it ran from 1991 to 2004 maybe it shouldn't count (same as SiP)

i disagree about Black Hole - there were a ton of amazing compositions in that one that would've been utterly wasted in film/animation - constructed to be read

DMZ, by Brian Wood

"amazing compositions in that one that would've been utterly wasted"
Ha, I felt kind of bad for burning through that book in 10 minutes.

In a cartoon, Burns could force the viewer to concentrate for more than a second on an image "damn you I spent a year drawing this, you're gonna look at it dammt! ha, can't flip the page now, can you?"

;_;

took me months to get though it

Here's what the list of nominees looks like so far:

52
99 Ways to Tell a Story -Matt Madden
100 Bullets
100 Demons -Barry
676 apparitions of Killoffer -Killoffer
Achewood -Chris Onstad
Acme Comics Library #18 -Chris Ware
Air -G. Willow Wilson
Alias -Bendis and Gaydos
All-Star Superman
Astonishing X-Men -Whedon and Cassaday
Black Hole -Charles Burns
Black Panther volume 4 -Hudlin, Jason Aaron, Jefte Palo and various
Blankets -Craig Thompson
Bone (2000-2004)

Bottomless Bellybutton -Dash Shaw
Cairo -G. Willow Wilson
Can't get no -Rick Veitch
Castle Waiting -Medley
Criminal -Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
Daredevil -Bendis and Maleev
Daredevil -Lark and Brubaker
DC's The New Frontier -Darwyn Cooke
Demo -Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan
DMZ -Brian Wood
Dungeon -Trondheim
Dykes to Watch Out For (strips from the 00s only) -Alison Bechdel
Embroideries -Marjane Satrapi
Epileptic -David B
Ex Machina -Vaughan and Harris
Exit Wounds -Rutu Modan
Fables -Bill Willingham
Final Crisis
Fun home -Alison Bechdel

Genesis -Robert Crumb
God gold and Golems -Sturm
Gødland
Gotham Central -Ed Brubaker, Greg Rucka and Michael Lark
Great Lakes Avengers: Misassembled -Dan Slott, Paul Pelletier and Rick Magyar
Gus -Chris Blain
Heavy Liquid -Paul Pope
I Killed Adolf Hitler -Jason
I shall destroy all the civilized planets afterword -Karasik
Ice Haven -Daniel Clowes
Isaac the Pirate -Cristophe Blain

Johnny Hiro -Fred Chao

Klezmer -Joann Sfar
Left Bank Gang -Jaxon
Lolcat internet meme -various
Marvel Zombies -Robert Kirkman and Sean Phillips
Matt Kindt: Super Spy
Monsieur Jean -Philippe Dupuy and Charles Berberian
My Brain is Hanging Upside Down -David Heatley
Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E.
New Avengers -Bendis and various artists
New X-Men
Notes for a War Story -Gipi
Or Else
Overcompensating -Jeffrey Rowland
Parker: The Hunter -Darwyn Cooke
Paul has a Summer Job - Michel Rabagliati
Persepolis -Marjane Satrapi
Plastic Man -Kyle Baker
Pluto -Naoki Urasawa
Powers -Bendis and Oeming
Queen and Country -Rucka and various
Runaways (Vaughan's run only, ie volumes 1 and 2) -Brian K. Vaughan and various
Satiro-Plastic -Gary Panter
Scary-Go-Round -John Allison
Scott Pilgrim -Bryan Lee O'Malley
Seaguy
Seven soldiers of victory -Grant Morrison and others
Shortcomings -Adrian Tomine
Sleeper
Smax -Alan Moore and Zander Cannon
Special Forces -Kyle Baker
Stitches -David Small
Strangers in Paradise (00s material only) -Terry Moore
Tales Designed To Thrizzle
Tamara Drewe -Posy Simmonds
The Boys -Ennis, Robertson and various
The Mourning Star -Strzepek
The Perry Bible Fellowship
The Photographer -Guibert
The Rabbi's Cat -Joann Sfar
The Rabbi's Cat 2 -Joann Sfar
The Salon -Nick Bertozzi
Top 10

Transmetropolitan (last two years) -Warren Ellis
Treasury of Victorian Murder - Geary

Tricked -Alex Robinson
Usagi Yojimbo -Sakai
Walking Dead -Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard
Wimbledon Green -Seth
WE3 -Morrison and Quitely
Wolverine: Enemy of the State -Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr
Y the Last Man -Brian K. Vaughan
Yotsuba&! -Kiyohiko Azuma

You'll Never Know -Carol Tyler





Please let me know if any are missing and if there're any other errors.

"if hard pressed I might go with Morrison Bats." -Nhex

Is "Bats" an abbreviation for the title? And, if yes, what's the full title? Let me know so I can include it in the list.

"There's a slew of weird internet memes that manifest as a kind of comic and while they often don't qualify as "good" by traditional criteria, they certainly feel more representative of the 00s than any comic I can think of (except for, bizarrely enough, the Fletcher Hanks stuff), so maybe they should get honorable mentions in the hopes that there will one day be a 'Jimmy Corrigan'-caliber lolcat?" -Philip Nunez

I've put in a nomination for the lolcat internet meme. Let me know if there are others you want included.

"we need to clarify here what "best comic" means. Is it a body of work (say, all the GMoz Batstuff in the aughties), is it a discrete trade, is it an individual comic or can it be a much larger body of work like achewood 00 to '10?" -forkslovetofu

I say yes for a discrete trade, a pamphlet and an internet meme. I'm undecided about body of work (but, yes, Achewood is in the list for now).

"I'd say everyone feel free to categorize away (single issue/arc/self-sufficient graphic novel/that panel in FOX TROT that squishes Bechdel, SERIOUSLY). That seems to be the way to go." -R Baez

Do you mean have separate polls for each category?

is there a deadline for this? I wanna look around the house and pull a whole buncha stuff.

my previous thread was meant to be a catchall for creating various categories and discussing nominations and throwing around ideas, I think the only category actually put forward in that one was Batman stories (and 'Morrison Bats' refers to Grant Morrison's run in the Batman comic titled Batman--though he is currently writing the Batman comic titled Batman & Robin). I think sub-polls and categories are fun and will inevitibly pop up as interest arises, but I do like having one poll for ALL COMICS and COMICS-LIKE stuff, ie this one.

Is this best comic of-the-00s or best comic that happened to be created in the 00s?

Julie Doucet: The Madame Paul Affair

Jessica Abel: La Perdida

Jessica Abel & Gabe Soria & Warren Pleece: Life Sucks

Robert Kirkman & Sean Phillips & Arthur Suydam: Marvel Zombies 2

Fred van Lente & Kev Walker: Marvel Zombies 3

Peter Milligan & Javier Pulido & Cliff Chiang: Human Target. This includes both the graphic novel Human Target: Final Cut and the ongoing series that followed it. I don't think it makes much sense to separate them into different entries, as the ongoing series pretty much continues the plot of the graphic novel. There was also an earlier Human Target miniseries by Milligan and Edvin Biukovic, but that one was released in the 90s, so it's not eligible here.

Jason: Why Are You Doing This?

Jason: Sshhh!

Jason: The Last Musketeer

Btw, The Left Bank Gang is also by Jason (aka the Norwegian artist John Arne Sæterøy), I'm not sure why Ward Fowler called him "Jaxon".

im not sure either!

Grant Morrison & Chris Weston & Gary Erskine: The Filth

Mike Carey & Jim Fern & Eric Nguyen: Crossing Midnight

I'm glad Tuomas added Suydam's name to Marvel Zombies 2, and it should be added to V.1 as well. Those covers are 49% of the fun!

Here's a few I don't think anybody else nominated...

A Drifting Life - Yoshihiro Tatsumi
King-Cat 57-70 - John Porcellino
The Bamboo Samurai - Taiyou Matsumoto / Issei Eifuku
Les petits reins - Lewis Trondheim
20th Century Boys - Naoki Urasawa

Plenty of excellent Hernandez books came out this decade, Nhex! "Ghost of Hoppers," "The Education of Hopey Glass," "Luba"... all of which I'd happily nominate.

I'll add Dave Sim & Gerhard's "The Last Day," Ron Rege's "Against Pain," the Fraction/Larocca "Iron Man" run, Michael Kupperman's "Tales Designed to Thrizzle," "Kramers Ergot 7" considered as an entity, Chris Ware's "Acme" #19, Carla Speed McNeil's "Finder: Talisman," Lethem & Dalrymple's "Omega the Unknown," Lewis Trondheim's "Mister O," Kevin Huizenga's "Gloriana" and "Fight Or Run: Shadow of the Chopper" and "Pulverize" and "28th Street," Craig Thompson's "Carnet de Voyage"...

sadly i have not read any of the L&R from this decade yet, but i'm working my way there slowly

I was just noticing the absence of C. Thompson (wouldn't've nommed him myself, tho)

Guess I'm gonna have to be the one reppin' for all the populist stuff:

Milligan & Allred's X-Force/X-Statix
Lucifer
The Ultimates
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Atlas (Dylan Horrocks)
Weasel (Dave Cooper)

And (holy shit) even though this just came out and I wasn't even aware of its existence until I started poking around for stuff to nominate, I'll throw a Hail Mary for Al Columbia's Pim & Francie: The Golden Bear Days, which is apparently partly a reprint of his Biologic Show stuff (which I've read and loved) but also includes a lot of new or otherwise unreleased material. I mean, everything the dude does is golden, so I feel pretty secure in throwing it out there.

Oh, jesus. And (incidentally) IDW just put out a book of Columbia's illustration work. Bye bye, money!

(Just checked to see and...drat! Blab #10 (containing 'The Trumpets They Play!' by Columbia) came out in '98. 'Trumpets' is just amazing.)

Vagabond - Inoue
Things just get away from you - Holcombe
i would fistfight you to get in walt and skeezix

Frank Miller & Lynn Varley: Dark Knight Strikes Again

Harvey Pekar & Dean Haspiel: The Quitter

Harvey Pekar & Gary Dumm: Ego & Hubris: The Michael Malice Story

Dave Gibbons & Peter Tomasi & various: Green Lantern Corps (ongoing series)

Things just get away from you - Holcombe

90s reprints

i would fistfight you to get in walt and skeezix

30s reprints

I would like to mention Fred The Clown by Langridge and Big In Japan by Seth Fisher while I try and think of more

Asterios Polyps - David Mazzuchelli

Solo: Brendan McCarthy
Solo: Darwyn Cooke

Planet Hulk

WHY NO EDDIE CAMPBELL?

Three welter-weight "graphic novels" (SORRY EDDIE) from the current decade: After the Snooter, The Fate Of The Artist (Alec's very own Pale Fire), and The Amazing Remarkable Monsieur Leotard - all world class.

"is there a deadline for this? I wanna look around the house and pull a whole buncha stuff." -forksclovetofu

Yes: it's January 7th 2010, so plenty of time.

"'Morrison Bats' refers to Grant Morrison's run in the Batman comic titled Batman--though he is currently writing the Batman comic titled Batman & Robin." -Dr. Superman

Thanks for the info. Will put the Batman run in the nomination list.

"my previous thread was meant to be a catchall for creating various categories and discussing nominations and throwing around ideas, I think the only category actually put forward in that one was Batman stories [...] I think sub-polls and categories are fun and will inevitibly pop up as interest arises, but I do like having one poll for ALL COMICS and COMICS-LIKE stuff, ie this one." -Dr. Superman

Great! I'll carry on with this one then.

"Is this best comic of-the-00s or best comic that happened to be created in the 00s?" -Philip Nunez

The requirement is that the material being nominated was created in the 00s. So this IS a "Best comic of the 00s" poll, except for any material that was created pre-00s.

Three welter-weight "graphic novels" (SORRY EDDIE) from the current decade: After the Snooter, The Fate Of The Artist (Alec's very own Pale Fire), and The Amazing Remarkable Monsieur Leotard - all world class.

Fate Of The Artist is 90s (serialisation started in 1997), Snooter is largely 90s (earliest strips that got collected in it were maybe 1995, started in earnest c. 1998)

I'll grant you AFTER THE SNOOTER, but you're confusing FATE with HOW TO BE AN ARTIST. FATE OF THE ARTIST is all original, all painted, and all 2006 - it begins with the Death Of Eddie Campbell (yes, Doomsday), features the real building blocks of the universe (sticky tape and paper clips, largely) and Fumetti Hayley (the sensational character find of 2006), and ends with Camp's adaptation of an O. Henry tale.

See here.

Well, not all painted.

Thanks to everyone who pointed out corrections needing to be made.

"i would fistfight you to get in walt and skeezix" -forksclovetofu
Sorry but, as sic said, its a 30s reprint (feels fist smashing into my skull).

R Baez, I can include the 00s part of "After the Snooter" (but only on its own) on the nominees list if you want.

Walt and Skeezix has been a total revelation for me (see also Dick Tracy).

otoh, neither of them as good as the Popeye reissues which have been astonishing.

If A Drifting Life gets in, Popeye should get in.

alright, maybe i missed this, but you're considering comics that have been translated into english for the first time in the 00's to be eligible?
Cuz if so, i got a bunch of tezuka and l'association to add to this

yeah i don't know -- i think allowing it would collapse an already unmanageably large list to include new translations and reprints

but you're confusing FATE with HOW TO BE

duh yes, apologies. esp since F.H. posted to ILC from my sofa that year.

To be fair, the '00 and '01 Alec strips deserve to be heralded as much as the '98 and '99 ones, so RR could just include them as such. The new material in Years Have Pants is done in the exact same mode, and even includes IRL stories from that time, so they could be rolled together with Lost My Sense Of Humour in the middle.

Hey can some industrious hero make links to all the comics? A lot of these polls winners end up being the things people are most familiar with, sadly.

Y'all are making the Eddie Campbell stuff more difficult than it needs to be. Why not just nominate Alec: The Years Have Pants?

cos thats all reprint innit (dating back to the 1980s)

because it doesn't qualify

drunk xpost

35 pp of actual new stuff iirc

34, drawn Jul-Sep 08

Yeah, but isn't a good bit of it reprinted '00s stuff? I don't thought the prohibition against reprints was just for reprints of exclusively pre-2000 stuff. I require clarification!

'I don't thought' = 'I thought', translated into English.

Skyscrapers of the Midwest by Josh Cotter

a bunch more to throw on the pile:

Death Note - Obata/Ohba
Parasyte - Iwaaki
Promethea - Moore
Love and Rockets - Los Bros Hernandez (could probably also slot in Speak of the Devil and Sloth too)
Queen and Country - Rucka et al
Age of Bronze - Shanower
Rarebit Fiends - Veitch
Alan's War - Guibert
Petey and Pussy - Keirschbaum
Masterpiece Comics - Sikoryak
Three Shadows - Pedrosa
Ordinary Victories - Larcenet
Why I Killed Peter - Alfred/Ka
Mother Come Home - Hornscheimer
Rasl - Smith

Oh yeah Death Note definitely deserves a nom. maybe on a crazy insane trash level, so does Gantz by Hiroya Oku. Parasyte is like Monster though, a '90s translation. Sloth by Gilbert was pretty good too.

Rare Bit Fiends was a hard '90s, forks. Unless I'm just unaware of some new RBF project Veitch has done this decade. In which case...please make me aware!

I will nominate Greyshirt: Indigo Sunset by Veitch.

Also (unrelated), Catwoman by Brubaker, Cooke, Stewart, et al.

Philip Nunez - A Drifting Life isn't a reprint. I think Tatsumi just finished drawing it last year?

Maggots - Brian Chippendale
Maakies - Tony Millionaire
Nat Turner - Kyle Baker

Tempted to throw in a preemptive nom for Footnotes From Gaza, too.

Yeah, but isn't a good bit of it reprinted '00s stuff?

Maybe 20-60 pp of Snooter is ‘00s. 30pp of History Of Humour is ‘00s. 8pp of Lost Humour is ‘00s. Maybe 10pp of How To Be was ‘00s? I could be underestimating. The bulk of the collection is definitely old stuff; much better to slap an umbrella title on The ‘00s Alec Strips imo.

Has anyone mentioned Cul De Sac yet?

Kramer's #4 as an entity, if #7 is having its own listing.

Cola Madnes (by Panter)!!! Didn't realize it came out in '01.
New Engineering by Yuichi Yokoyama
BJ And Da Dogs

...I'm trying to think of other stuff that impressed me with its formal insanity.

I can see why a collection of a strip or an ongoing series that has both 90s and 00s material is problematic... But what about works which started in the 90s and were finished in the 00s, and which are meant to be read as a whole, like Promethea or Black Hole? Should we only vote for the parts of Black Hole that were released in the 00s? That doesn't seem right.

I suggest any comic that was finished in this decade, and is clearly meant to be read as a whole, should count as a whole.

Anyway, a couple more nominations:

Bryan Talbot: Alice in Sunderland

Gail Simone & various: Birds of Prey (this is an ongoing series, but I'm nominating Simone's run only)

I was gonna nominate Marc Bell's Worn Tuff Elbow, but then I saw a new D&Q collection of Bell's stuff called Hot Potatoe in the shop today (thank you so much, book publishers, for simultaneously releasing 8 billion new books that I need to buy). So I need to check that out before I can make a call.

Updated nominees list:

20th Century Boys -Naoki Urasawa
28th Street
52
99 Ways to Tell a Story -Matt Madden
100 Bullets
100 Demons -Barry
676 apparitions of Killoffer -Killoffer
A Drifting Life -Yoshihiro Tatsumi
Achewood -Chris Onstad
Acme Comics Library #18 -Chris Ware
Acme Comics Library #19 -Chris Ware
Against Pain -Ron Rege
Age of Bronze -Shanower
Air -G. Willow Wilson
Alan's War -Guibert
Alias -Bendis and Gaydos
Alice in Sunderland -Bryan Talbot
All-Star Superman
Asterios Polyp -David Mazzuchelli
Astonishing X-Men -Whedon and Cassaday
Atlas -Dylan Horrocks
Batman (Grant Morrison's run)
Big In Japan -Seth Fisher
Birds of Prey (Simone's run only) -Gail Simone and various
BJ And Da Dogs
Black Hole -Charles Burns
Black Panther volume 4 -Hudlin, Jason Aaron, Jefte Palo and various
Blankets -Craig Thompson
Bone (2000-2004)

Bottomless Bellybutton -Dash Shaw
Cairo -G. Willow Wilson
Can't get no -Rick Veitch
Carnet de Voyage -Craig Thompson
Castle Waiting -Medley
Catwoman -Brubaker, Cooke, Stewart and others
Cola Madnes -Panter
Criminal -Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
Crossing Midnight -Mike Carey, Jim Fern and Eric Nguyen
Cul De Sac
Daredevil -Bendis and Maleev
Daredevil -Lark and Brubaker
Dark Knight Strikes Again -Frank Miller and Lynn Varley
DC's The New Frontier -Darwyn Cooke
Death Note -Obata and Ohba
Demo -Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan
DMZ -Brian Wood
Dungeon -Trondheim
Dykes to Watch Out For (strips from the 00s only) -Alison Bechdel
Ego & Hubris: The Michael Malice Story -Harvey Pekar and Gary Dumm
Embroideries -Marjane Satrapi
Epileptic -David B
Ex Machina -Vaughan and Harris
Exit Wounds -Rutu Modan
Fables -Bill Willingham
Fight or Run: Shadow of the Chopper
Final Crisis
Finder: Talisman -Carla Speed McNeil
Fred The Clown -Langridge
Fun home -Alison Bechdel

Gantz -Hiroya Oku
Genesis -Robert Crumb
Ghost of Hoppers
Gloriana -Kevin Huizenga
God gold and Golems -Sturm
Gødland
Gotham Central -Ed Brubaker, Greg Rucka and Michael Lark
Great Lakes Avengers: Misassembled -Dan Slott, Paul Pelletier and Rick Magyar
Green Lantern Corps (ongoing series) -Dave Gibbons, Peter Tomasi and various
Greyshirt: Indigo Sunset -Veitch
Gus -Chris Blain
Heavy Liquid -Paul Pope
Human Target (the graphic novel and the series that followed it) -Peter Milligan, Javier Pulido and Cliff Chiang
I Killed Adolf Hitler -Jason
I shall destroy all the civilized planets afterword -Karasik
Ice Haven -Daniel Clowes
Iron Man (the Fraction/Larocca run)
Isaac the Pirate -Cristophe Blain

Johnny Hiro -Fred Chao
King-Cat 57-70 -John Porcellino

Klezmer -Joann Sfar
Kramers Ergot 4 -various
Kramers Ergot 7 -various
La Perdida -Jessica Abel
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Les petits reins -Lewis Trondheim
Life Sucks -Jessica Abel, Gabe Soria and Warren Pleece
Lolcat internet meme -various
Love and Rockets -Los Bros Hernandez
Luba
Lucifer
Maakies -Tony Millionaire
Maggots -Brian Chippendale
Marvel Zombies -Robert Kirkman, Sean Phillips and Arthur Suydam
Marvel Zombies 2 -Robert Kirkman, Sean Phillips and Arthur Suydam
Marvel Zombies 3 -Fred van Lente and Kev Walker
Masterpiece Comics -Sikoryak
Matt Kindt: Super Spy
Mister O -Lewis Trondheim
Monsieur Jean -Philippe Dupuy and Charles Berberian
Mother Come Home -Hornscheimer
My Brain is Hanging Upside Down -David Heatley
Nate Turner -Kyle Baker
Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E.
New Avengers -Bendis and various artists
New Engineering -Yuichi Yokoyama
New X-Men
Notes for a War Story -Gipi
Omega the Unknown -Lethem and Dalrymple
Ordinary Victories -Larcenet
Or Else
Overcompensating -Jeffrey Rowland
Parker: The Hunter -Darwyn Cooke
Paul has a Summer Job - Michel Rabagliati
Persepolis -Marjane Satrapi
Petey and Pussy -Keirschbaum
Pim & Francie: The Golden Bear Days (except for the Biologic Show reprints) -Al Columbia
Planet Hulk
Plastic Man -Kyle Baker
Pluto -Naoki Urasawa
Powers -Bendis and Oeming
Promethea -Moore
Pulverize
Queen and Country -Rucka and various
Rasl -Smith
Runaways (Vaughan's run only, ie volumes 1 and 2) -Brian K. Vaughan and various
Satiro-Plastic -Gary Panter
Scary-Go-Round -John Allison
Schizo 4 (except for the stuff done in 1999) -Ivan Brunetti
Scott Pilgrim -Bryan Lee O'Malley
Seaguy
Seven soldiers of victory -Grant Morrison and others
Shortcomings -Adrian Tomine
Skyscrapers of the Midwest -Josh Cotter
Sleeper
Sloth -Gilbert
Smax -Alan Moore and Zander Cannon
Solo -Darwyn Cooke
Solo -Brendan McCarthy
Special Forces -Kyle Baker
Sshhh! -Jason
Stitches -David Small
Strangers in Paradise (00s material only) -Terry Moore
Tales Designed To Thrizzle -Michael Kupperman
Tamara Drewe -Posy Simmonds
The Amazing Remarkable Monsieur Leotard -Eddie Campbell
The Bamboo Samurai -Taiyou Matsumoto and Issei Eifuku
The Boys -Ennis, Robertson and various
The Education of Hopey Glass
The Fate Of The Artist -Eddie Campbell
The Filth -Grant Morrison, Chris Weston and Gary Erskine
The Last Day -Dave Sim and Gerhard
The Last Musketeer -Jason
The Left Bank Gang -Jason
The Madame Paul Affair -Julie Doucet
The Mourning Star -Strzepek
The Perry Bible Fellowship
The Photographer -Guibert
The Quitter -Harvey Pekar and Dean Haspiel
The Rabbi's Cat -Joann Sfar
The Rabbi's Cat 2 -Joann Sfar
The Salon -Nick Bertozzi
The Ultimates
Three Shadows -Pedrosa
Top 10

Transmetropolitan (last two years) -Warren Ellis
Treasury of Victorian Murder - Geary

Tricked -Alex Robinson
Usagi Yojimbo -Sakai
Vagabond -Inoue
Walking Dead -Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard
WE3 -Morrison and Quitely
Weasel -Dave Cooper
Why Are You Doing This? -Jason
Why I Killed Peter -Alfred and Ka
Wimbledon Green -Seth
Wolverine: Enemy of the State -Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr
X-Force/X-Statix -Milligan and Allred
Y the Last Man -Brian K. Vaughan
Yotsuba&! -Kiyohiko Azuma

You'll Never Know -Carol Tyler





Again, please let me know if any are missing and if there're any other errors.

"alright, maybe i missed this, but you're considering comics that have been translated into english for the first time in the 00's to be eligible?" -forksclovetofu
No, sorry. I know, it's a grey area, but I'm going to draw this arbitrary line here.

"Yeah, but isn't a good bit of it reprinted '00s stuff? I don't thought the prohibition against reprints was just for reprints of exclusively pre-2000 stuff. I require clarification!" -Deric W. Haircare
Yes, the prohibition against reprints is just for pre-2000 material.

I'll try to address the other questions soon.

List feels so short!

do people think Ice Haven worked better as a half-truck hardcover than as Eightball #22?

xp feels about right to me. i mean that's still a lotta stuff to read!

I think Ice Haven and Eightball 22 are pretty much equal, aside from their respective price points. I just tend to think that IH has supplanted the Eightball issue as the more official version (i.e. the one you can buy in stores).

The selfish part of me really wishes the poll results were already complete, because I'm really in the mood to order some comix tonight and the ILC hivemind has been ultra-reliable for me so far. :)

Angry Youth Comics by Johnny Ryan
the Wally Gropius strips from Mome by Tim Hensley
Runaways by Brian Vaughn

Automatic Kafka - Joe Casey & Ashley Wood
Captain America v5 (The Winter Soldier arc especially) - Brubaker & Epting
Casanova - Matt Fraction w/Gabriel Ba and others
Essex County - Jeff Lemire
Fell - Warren Ellis & Ben Templesmith
Global Frequecy - Warren Ellis w/Various Artists
Immortal Iron Fist - Brubaker & Fraction, David Aja and others
Madrox - Peter David & Pablo Raimondi
Silver Surfer: Requiem - J. Michael Straczynski & Esad Ribic
The Intimates - Joe Casey & Giuseppe Camuncoli
The Nightly News - Jonathan Hickman

good call on more brubaker.
The World Below - Chadwick

this is gonna be an ol' fashioned write-in poll and not a pick one, ah hopes?

And if I was gonna pick one Seth Fisher, I'd go with Willworld, so:
Willworld - DeMatteis and Fisher

gotta be
(xp)

And if I was gonna pick one Seth Fisher, I'd go with Willworld, so:

art is amazing but the DeMatteis "can the supervillain of self-doubt be overcome by THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING?!??!" writing is just poison

Big In Japan gets a bit pointlessly superhero by the end but the first issue is so gleeful and amazing. the sandwich!

(actually I'd happily change my nomination just to #1)

eh, that's dematteis; I put up with it in moonshadow and i kinda don't even notice anymore

Powr Mastrs - CF
Prison Pit - Johnny Ryan
George Sprott - Seth
Incredible Hercules - Pak/Van Lente/et al

Kind of want to start one of these for reprints but as a new-to-ILC-er the logistics seem overwhelming.

A couple more:

Michel Rabagliati - Paul Has a Summer Job
Debbie Drechsler - The Summer of Love

the rabagliati has already been nommed

Okay, sorry.

Aside from Transmetropolitan, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Y, all my favorites are missing. I haven't read Fables, Ex Machina or The Boys yet, which will probably be up there too.

Dead Enders - Ed Brubaker - The greatest apocalyptic mod love story ever.
Doktor Sleepless - Warren Ellis - How could this not be listed? Other ongoing series are listed.
The Originals - Dave Gibbons
Blue Monday - Chynna Clugston
Hopeless Savages - Jan Van Meter
Scooter Girl - Chynna Clugston
Courtney Crumrin - Ted Naifeh
Freakangels - Warren Ellis
Young Liars - David Lapham
Love The Way You Love - Jamie S. Rich
The Unwritten - Mike Carey - This just started with only 5 issues this decade, but it's a brilliant concept and is gonna be a banger.

Nothing to add here for me except Darwyn Cooke's run on The Spirit, the Waid/Perez issues of B&TB (because I'm dorky) and Vimanarama (which I liked, anyway).

This could end up endless, but I'd be interested in a "best single issue" poll, too

oh shit flaming drugturds into my eyeballs if I didn't forget to mention SUPERFUCKERS

^^^oh yeah cosign, esp the first issue

safe area gorazde

Elmer

btw cankles, the fact that you're a sacco fan is hella humanizing somehow. if you were into david boring then i would know that a marshmallow heart beats in that concrete chest and i'd take joe matt love with a grain of salt, but sacco seems right somehow

Crogan's Vengeance, if I didn't say it before.

there was an israeli compilation called red salmon or something?
I don't know about best, but it was pretty good.

scott mccloud's google chrome comic is a very good encapsulation of the 00s.

How many votes are we going to get with this? My top ten, say, are probably all here, but maybe not my top twenty.

elvis road - x. robel & h. reumann
shrimpy and paul - marc bell
jamilti & other stories - rutu modan
i shall destroy all the civilized planets - fletcher hanks (boo hiss bullshit)
gongwanadon - tom herpich
skibber bee bye - ron rege
tiempos finales - samuel hiti
cats don't exist - jis
snake 'n' bacon's cartoon cabaret - michael kupperman
grotesque (3 issues) - sergio ponchione
epilepsy - david b.
babel - david b.

wow, of the stuff i wanted to nominate, only new engineering had already been called out. then again, i skipped all the superhero/action stuff, just cuz thinking it through seems too much like work...

really? i'm a big achewood fan but mannnnnnn there is a lot to comb through to get to the good stuff. this is true for most webcomics, naturally

― Nhex, Thursday, November 5, 2009 2:08 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

insanity

DOPE!

it's EPILEPSY by david b., and it has been nommed. scratch it (me and my big mouth).

another reason i had so much unpreviously mentioned shit, was that i forgot so much EXCELLENT stuff that has been mentioned: mr. o, powr mastrs, etc.

add:

ninja - brian chippendale
eightball #23 - dan clowes (hey it ain't no ice haven, but it's still pretty damn great!)

oh the israeli anthology is called dead herring not red salmon!
here is an excellent comic that was in it:
http://davidpolonsky.carbonmade.com/projects/20236

please post links to samples if possible of your faves! it always bums me out when some things win polls just on happenstance that few people even saw their competitors.

new shit that has meant the most to me in the 21st-century (from most to least personally important) (maybe) (asterisked shit has not yet been listed as far as i can tell):

The Acme Novelty Library (all of it)
Ninja
Promethea
Achewood
20th Century Boys
Louis Riel*
All-Star Superman
Black Hole
Bodyworld*
DC: The New Frontier
Ganges*/Or Else
Nijihara Holograph*
Epileptic
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
New Engineering/Travel*
676 Apparitions of Killoffer
Batman: Year One Hundred*
Safe Area Gorzade
Cromartie High School*
The Fate of the Artist
Daredevil (Bendis through Brubaker)
Planetes*
We3
BJ and Da Dogs
Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service*
Dark Knight Strikes Again

Wow, you guys have pretty much covered everything I would have nommed I think. So I'll just throw in Penny Arcade, on the grounds that, while not consistently awesome at any point in its run, it's had far more LOLs than any other webcomic I've ever kept up with. Maybe the best art out there for a thrice-weekly comic, too.

an early one that still, still cracks me up every time:

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215072691_Vm2hM-L-2.jpg

Also in the world of strips, was Boondocks's heyday in the 90s or 00s? It's all blurring together for me. It was pretty great for its first year or two, right?

Oh man, I can't let Penny Arcade stand unopposed!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2238/2263180112_6a98cbf68c_o.jpg

snake 'n' bacon's cartoon cabaret - michael kupperman

90s reprints AFAIK - never seen a copy myself. Tony Millionaire was going to send me one in exchange for some Norman Lindsay books, but just sent a minicomic of his own and some scraps of paper instead.

cats don't exist - jis

70s or 80s reprints maybe? I know Fanta originally announced this about ten years before they finally put it out. This I have, but not nearby to check.

btw cankles, the fact that you're a sacco fan is hella humanizing somehow. if you were into david boring then i would know that a marshmallow heart beats in that concrete chest and i'd take joe matt love with a grain of salt, but sacco seems right somehow

― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:23 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i just love ethnic cleansing

lol cankles

also wth is supposed to be great about that PA strip? Dude kicks through a flat wall, then all of a sudden didn't, because his left leg is now on the other side?

did Dork #7 come out in the 00s?

1999 or 2000 I think - maybe the Journal interview was '99 and then Cluttered was afterwards? the other half of it was reprinted from Instant Piano in.... '95? though

also wth is supposed to be great about that PA strip?

I dunno, maybe you had to be there after all. Admit freely that their art has gotten much stronger (that strip's from 2000. The intervening decade has sharpened things up considerably, plus thrown in some weird influences I wouldn't have expected (a lot of the noses look like, I dunno, "How To Draw Cartoon Characters!" from 1957).

This is a nice pair:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/10/
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/3/21/

I love the way he writes "Stalagmen?"

I was also going to nom Sluggy Freelance on sheer longevity grounds, when I realized I haven't read it probably since 2001 or so, at which point it was already several years old and settled into its friendly, geeky groove. I think one of the nicest things about the internet is that small, cute, earnestly-drawn adventure soap-comedies, that feel basically like the in-jokey epics I was sketching out in high school, can find a mass audience and become a paying venture. 100,000 daily readers! If only my "Umgurai Saga" had caught on...

well I hope this poll does something like where people send in ballots of their top 10 or top 3 (if they haven't read 10) or their top 1 (if they haven't read 3)....

that way the results will be better and I really do want to try some new comics/graphic novels since I have only read 1 on the huge list above me and it was really great

So are we nominating comic strips too? Like... Pearls Before Swine, Dykes to Watch Out For, Questionable Content, Medium Large, Perry Bible Fellowship?

Also, hopefully I'm not repeating anything here, but I noticed Peter David's X-Factor is missing from the list, so let me name a couple more mainstream superhero comix:

Peter David - X-Factor
Geoff Johns - Green Lantern
Geoff Johns - Action Comics
J. Michael Straczynski - Thor
Warren Ellis - Thunderbolts
Paul Dini - Detective Comics

What about the One Year Later Superman by Johns & Kurt Busiek? Busiek's Superman run had a lot of promise but didn't quite get there.

They were somewhat enjoyable, but like you said it didn't really go anywhere. I didn't read Trinity, though.

knew snake 'n' bacon and the jis collection were gonna get capped for technical reasons. which is bullshit, and this is why. snake 'n' bacon was a little-known alt paper weekly during the time those were run. plus uncollected. thus ridic long-shot for best comic of 90s list. same goes for jis. that stuff's never been published in english afik, never seen a us-accessible collection of any kind. seems a shame to exclude stuff like that & fletcher hanks.

never seen penny arcade, but it turns out that i disagree with it.

Snake 'n' Bacon undoubtedly seen by thousands and thousands and thousands more people as a weekly multi-paper strip than as a book which had such a low print-run that its publisher filled reorders by using POD!!!

I'm not arsed about the Jis, but then it's not like anyone's gonna vote for it either

I'm not sure why being published in the US during this decade should be enough to call something a 00s comic. Apparently Edgar P. Jacob's Blake & Mortimer book "S.O.S. Meteors" has been translated into English for the first time this year, but it would be hard for me to call it a "00s comic book", since I first read it as kid back in the early 90s. USA is not the whole world.

ILC has never had a "best of the 90s" poll, nor a poll for any other decade, but I'm sure those works would be eligible for such polls, if we are to have them in the future.

"USA is not the whole world."
Is there really any location with a manic, indigenous comics culture outside of USA/Japan?

France, maybe?

I get the sense that there is a very active South American scene, but I don't know much about it or where it's centered.

It feels like L'Association and other non-US collectives are the beginnings of a homegrown scene rather than outgrowths of something already thriving.
Also, they seem to be more cosmopolitan in outlook -- that Israeli collection included an interview with Maruo Suehiro!

most countries in europe have a 'comics culture' - france, britain, spain, italy, belgium, etc etc

i mean, you cld EASILY compile a list of the greatest comics of all time that didn't include anything from america or japan

I dunno man, those countries seem to have way more cultural capital invested in serious film than in comics, say. (In the US/Japan it seems every major cultural export is based on a comic book character.)
Is Metal Hurlant still running even?

I'd say comics have been more integral to French culture than they've been to American culture at least since the 1950s. Asterix is basically a French national hero, and I'm sure the per capita sales of comics there is far bigger than in the US.

From what I've gathered Argentina has had a very strong comics culture for decades, but unfortunately not much of its comics have been translated into other languages, except for Munõz & Sampayo. Italy used to be a big comic country too, though I'm not sure what's the situation is in the 00s.

In Finland the most popular comic book is Donald Duck, which has the weekly sale of 300000 (in a country of 5 million people). Most of Disney comics these days are produced in Europe though, since they are much much more popular in here than in the US. Don Rosa is one of the few well-known American artists working in Disney comics today, and even his work was originally published in Europe only.

Even if USA has produced a lot of comic book movies during the last 10-15 years, the movies have almost always been much more popular than the comics they're based on, which isn't the case with Asterix, Tintin, Corto Maltese, etc.

I'll grant you Asterisk and TinTin are true juggernauts, but they largely seem like phenomena unto themselves, rather than part of a comic ecosystem,
in the same way that Where's Wally/Waldo doesn't speak for a vibrant tradition of spectacled British heroes.
Donald Duck is not a strong case for an indigenous Finnish comic scene!
(Maybe the word I'm looking for isn't exactly "indigenous," but I didn't want to use the word "nationalist," though I guess Asterisk might count)

The disney characters, at the very least economically and most likely culturally, have far more clout in Europe than they do in America and that's been so for decades.

This site has some statistics for comic book sales in France. Here are the top 10 sellers of 2008, with sales numbers in parentheses:

- Titeuf de Zep (1.832.000 ex.)
- Blake et Mortimer de Yves Sente et André Juillard (600.000 ex.)
- Lucky Luke de Laurent Gerra et Achdé (535.000 ex.)
- Largo Winch de Jean Van Hamme et Philippe Francq (490.000 ex.)
- Le Chat de Geluck (320.000 ex.)
- Thorgal de Sente et Rosinski (300.000 ex.)
- Lanfeust des étoiles de Christophe Arleston et Didier Tarquin (300.000 ex.)
- Cédric de Raoul Cauvin et Laudec (273.000 ex.)
- XIII Mystery de Xavier Dorison et Ralph Meyer (253.000 ex.)
- Les Profs d’Erroc et Pica ou Les Bidochon de Christian Binet (200.000 ex.)

(Note that none of the top sellers are Asterix or Tintin.) All of the top 4 and number 9 are comics originally published in French (in France, Belgium, or Switzerland); I do not recognize the other five, but I'm sure most of them are French too. Also, in France comics are not generally published as monthly floppies, rather than as larger, 48-page "albums"; albums in a particular series come out maybe 1-4 times a year, sometimes less often. But even without taking that into consideration, it looks like the per capita sales of comics in France are clearly bigger than in the US.

The disney characters, at the very least economically and most likely culturally, have far more clout in Europe than they do in America and that's been so for decades.

Yeah, like I said, these days most of the comics featuring Disney characters are made in Europe (and probably most of them are sold in here too), so even if the characters are American, the comics themselves could certainly be called European.

Do you recommend any of those Fr. comics listed above?
Also, why does that site have a Chris Ware banner?

Cuz Chris Ware has, at the very least economically and most likely culturally, far more clout in Europe than he does in America.

If I was gonna learn a foreign language solely for comic reading (never gonna happen, but in a perfect world) I'd be hard torn to decide between french and japanese.

Will Belgium be building a theme park devoted to pain and self-loathing in his honor?

imagine the funhouse mirror opportunities

The entry gates should have a sign: "Fathers, abandon your children here!"

free stomachache inducing cough drops for the boys
doughy midsection and crippling doubt for the girls

- 'where's wally' actually IS part of a 'vibrant' British cultural tradition of bespectacled heroes that goes back at least as far as Billy Bunter, and comes right up to date w/ Harry Potter (which I'm guessing wld pass even yr extremely screwy definition of 'cultural capital'). And Asterix and Tintin are both a product and reflection of an entire tradition of juvenile comics in Europe - they only stand apart because of their enormous success, but there are many other, similar series - Blake and Mortimer, Gaston, Luke Luke etc etc - that are very nearly as popular and central to the history of Euro comics. Every largeish French city - or British city, come to that - will have a bookshop or dedicated comic shop selling a huge range of comics and albums. Only a tiny tiny sub-section of that will be comics translated from the American (or Japanese).

- 'Metal Hurlant' is no longer published, but then it was never as successful or important as other Franco-Belgian anthology comics like A Suivre, Tintin magazine etc. And as Tuomas notes, the trend in France is for original, non-serialised graphic novels.

Gaston! This editor of our jr. high newspaper translated some Gaston comics for us. I liked it enough, but It didn't catch on. People here want their Garfield and Dilbert I guess.

Despite the best efforts of many a "Comics...They Ain't Just For Kids Anymore!!!!!1" think piece writer, Americans (outside of the relatively small subset of us nerds) just don't give a fuck about comics.

I.e. prolly, like, 1 out of every 100 people who saw Iron Man actually picked up an Iron Man comic afterwards.

"USA is not the whole world."
Is there really any location with a manic, indigenous comics culture outside of USA/Japan?

― Philip Nunez, Monday, December 14, 2009 11:29 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

korea

The entry gates should have a sign: "Fathers, abandon your children here!"

Nunez was crusing for a SBanning but redeemed himself totally here

I.e. prolly, like, 1 out of every 100 people who saw Iron Man actually picked up an Iron Man comic afterwards.

lol at your aggressively low numbers - more like 100 people, total

idea that comics are more culturally relevant in the US than in france & belgium boggles the mind. think we're way behind asia and europe on that score. desperately recycling decades-old characters as crap movies hardly counts as an "active comics culture".

on jis & cat's don't exist: i've only dug around a little, but i'm unable to find any clear info on when those pieces were first published - or whether or not they've been previously published at all. the penmanship varies enough to suggest that they were drawn over a fairly long period of time, but only a few sketches are dated (those from 89-91). no big deal, cuz yeah, it's not gonna scoop up a ton of votes or anything.

'desperately recycling decades-old characters as crap movies hardly counts as an "active comics culture".'
Don't forget merchandising!

'no big deal, cuz yeah, it's not gonna scoop up a ton of votes or anything.'
Can you post some pages from it? Don't give up against the US/JP comics hegemony!

re: korea
There's a weird dynamic w/ kr/jp where I suspect the cultural embargo against japan exacerbated korea's drawing (sometimes verbatim) from japan's comic culture rather than developing its own.
(There's dooly the dinosaur, which I guess might be comparable to TinTin)
there's a neat site with amateur korean e-comics here: http://www.comix.co.kr/ (I think they use the same web software as this other french site), but I don't see
anyone inspired to champion/translate such comics over here -- will anyone even nominate one of those?

Where is the equivalent of samehat.blogspot.com for korean, french, russian, etc... comics?

Sorry for not updating the nominations list and answering questions in a while. I'm going to extend the nominations deadline to January 27th 2010 (so I can catch up with all the backlog and organize the voting part).

Repeat: the NEW NOMINATIONS DEADLINE IS JANUARY 27TH 2010.

+ Happy New Year to everyone!

I'm so sorry but I have to extend the nominations deadline again...

The NEW NEW NOMINATIONS DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY 17TH 2010.

Sorry also that this is very short notice.

I'm ON IPHONE, have we nommed Schizo #4 yet?

Yes, Schizo 4 is on the nominations list.

And here, finally, is the updated nominations list:

20th Century Boys -Naoki Urasawa
28th Street
52
99 Ways to Tell a Story -Matt Madden
100 Bullets
100 Demons -Barry
676 apparitions of Killoffer -Killoffer
A Drifting Life -Yoshihiro Tatsumi
Achewood -Chris Onstad
Acme Comics Library #18 -Chris Ware
Acme Comics Library #19 -Chris Ware
Action Comics -Geoff Johns
Against Pain -Ron Rege
Age of Bronze -Shanower
Air -G. Willow Wilson
Alan's War -Guibert
Alias -Bendis and Gaydos
Alice in Sunderland -Bryan Talbot
All-Star Superman
Angry Youth Comics -Johnny Ryan
Asterios Polyp -David Mazzuchelli
Astonishing X-Men -Whedon and Cassaday
Atlas -Dylan Horrocks
Automatic Kafka -Joe Casey and Ashley Wood
B&TB (Waid/Perez issues)
Babel –David B
Batman (Grant Morrison's run)
Batman: Year One Hundred
Big In Japan -Seth Fisher
Birds of Prey (Simone's run only) -Gail Simone and various
BJ And Da Dogs
Black Hole -Charles Burns
Black Panther volume 4 -Hudlin, Jason Aaron, Jefte Palo and various
Blankets -Craig Thompson
Blue Monday -Chynna Clugston
Bodyworld
Bone (2000-2004)
Bottomless Bellybutton -Dash Shaw
Cairo -G. Willow Wilson
Can't get no -Rick Veitch
Captain America v5 (The Winter Soldier arc especially) - Brubaker and Epting
Carnet de Voyage -Craig Thompson
Casanova -Matt Fraction with Gabriel Ba and others
Castle Waiting -Medley
Catwoman -Brubaker, Cooke, Stewart and others
Cola Madnes -Panter
Courtney Crumrin -Ted Naifeh
Criminal -Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
Crogan's Vengeance
Cromartie High School
Crossing Midnight -Mike Carey, Jim Fern and Eric Nguyen
Cul De Sac
Daredevil -Bendis and Maleev
Daredevil -Lark and Brubaker
Dark Knight Strikes Again -Frank Miller and Lynn Varley
DC's The New Frontier -Darwyn Cooke
Dead Enders -Ed Brubaker
Death Note -Obata and Ohba
Demo -Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan
Detective Comics -Paul Dini
DMZ -Brian Wood
Doktor Sleepless -Warren Ellis
Dungeon -Trondheim
Dykes to Watch Out For (strips from the 00s only) -Alison Bechdel
Ego & Hubris: The Michael Malice Story -Harvey Pekar and Gary Dumm
Eightball #23 -Daniel Clowes
Elmer
Elvis Road- X. Robel and H. Reumann
Embroideries -Marjane Satrapi
Epileptic -David B
Essex County -Jeff Lemire
Ex Machina -Vaughan and Harris
Exit Wounds -Rutu Modan
Fables -Bill Willingham
Fell -Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith
Fight or Run: Shadow of the Chopper
Final Crisis
Finder: Talisman -Carla Speed McNeil
Freakangels -Warren Ellis
Fred The Clown -Langridge
Fun home -Alison Bechdel
Ganges
Gantz -Hiroya Oku
Genesis -Robert Crumb
George Sprott - Seth
Ghost of Hoppers
Global Frequency - Warren Ellis with various artists
Gloriana -Kevin Huizenga
God gold and Golems -Sturm
Gødland
Gongwanadon -Tom Herpich
Gotham Central -Ed Brubaker, Greg Rucka and Michael Lark
Great Lakes Avengers: Misassembled -Dan Slott, Paul Pelletier and Rick Magyar
Green Lantern -Geoff Johns
Green Lantern Corps (ongoing series) -Dave Gibbons, Peter Tomasi and various
Greyshirt: Indigo Sunset -Veitch
Grotesque (3 issues) -Sergio Ponchione
Gus -Chris Blain
Heavy Liquid -Paul Pope
Hopeless Savages -Jan Van Meter
Human Target (the graphic novel and the series that followed it) -Peter Milligan, Javier Pulido and Cliff Chiang
I Killed Adolf Hitler -Jason
I shall destroy all the civilized planets afterword -Karasik
Ice Haven -Daniel Clowes
Immortal Iron Fist -Brubaker and Fraction, David Aja and others
Incredible Hercules –Pak, Van Lente, et al
Iron Man (the Fraction/Larocca run)
Isaac the Pirate -Cristophe Blain
Jamilti & other stories -Rutu Modan
Johnny Hiro -Fred Chao
King-Cat 57-70 -John Porcellino
Klezmer -Joann Sfar
Kramers Ergot 4 -various
Kramers Ergot 7 -various
Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service
La Perdida -Jessica Abel
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Les petits reins -Lewis Trondheim
Life Sucks -Jessica Abel, Gabe Soria and Warren Pleece
Lolcat internet meme -various
Louis Riel –Chester Brown
Love and Rockets -Los Bros Hernandez
Love The Way You Love -Jamie S. Rich
Luba
Lucifer
Maakies -Tony Millionaire
Madrox -Peter David and Pablo Raimondi
Maggots -Brian Chippendale
Marvel Zombies -Robert Kirkman, Sean Phillips and Arthur Suydam
Marvel Zombies 2 -Robert Kirkman, Sean Phillips and Arthur Suydam
Marvel Zombies 3 -Fred van Lente and Kev Walker
Masterpiece Comics -Sikoryak
Matt Kindt: Super Spy
Mister O -Lewis Trondheim
Monsieur Jean -Philippe Dupuy and Charles Berberian
Mother Come Home -Hornscheimer
My Brain is Hanging Upside Down -David Heatley
Nate Turner -Kyle Baker
Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E.
New Avengers -Bendis and various artists
New Engineering -Yuichi Yokoyama
New X-Men
Nijihara Holograph
Ninja -Brian Chippendale
Notes for a War Story -Gipi
Omega the Unknown -Lethem and Dalrymple
Ordinary Victories -Larcenet
Or Else
Overcompensating -Jeffrey Rowland
Parker: The Hunter -Darwyn Cooke
Paul Has a Summer Job -Michel Rabagliati
Penny Arcade
Persepolis-Marjane Satrapi
Petey and Pussy -Keirschbaum
Pim & Francie: The Golden Bear Days (except for the Biologic Show reprints) -Al Columbia
Planet Hulk
Planetes
Plastic Man -Kyle Baker
Pluto -Naoki Urasawa
Powers -Bendis and Oeming
Powr Mastrs -CF
Prison Pit -Johnny Ryan
Promethea -Moore
Pulverize
Queen and Country -Rucka and various
Rasl -Smith
Runaways (Vaughan's run only, ie volumes 1 and 2) -Brian K. Vaughan and various
Safe area gorazde –Joe Sacco
Satiro-Plastic -Gary Panter
Scary-Go-Round -John Allison
Schizo 4 (except for the stuff done in 1999) -Ivan Brunetti
Scooter Girl -Chynna Clugston
Scott Pilgrim -Bryan Lee O'Malley
Seaguy
Seven soldiers of victory -Grant Morrison and others
Shortcomings -Adrian Tomine
Shrimpy and Paul - Marc Bell
Silver Surfer: Requiem -J. Michael Straczynski and Esad Ribic
Skibber bee bye -Ron Rege
Skyscrapers of the Midwest -Josh Cotter
Sleeper
Sloth -Gilbert
Smax -Alan Moore and Zander Cannon
Solo -Darwyn Cooke
Solo -Brendan McCarthy
Special Forces -Kyle Baker
Sshhh! -Jason
Stitches -David Small
Strangers in Paradise (00s material only) -Terry Moore
Super F*ckers –James Kochalka
Tales Designed To Thrizzle -Michael Kupperman
Tamara Drewe -Posy Simmonds
The Amazing Remarkable Monsieur Leotard -Eddie Campbell
The Bamboo Samurai -Taiyou Matsumoto and Issei Eifuku
The Boys -Ennis, Robertson and various
The Education of Hopey Glass
The Fate Of The Artist -Eddie Campbell
The Filth -Grant Morrison, Chris Weston and Gary Erskine
The Intimates -Joe Casey and Giuseppe Camuncoli
The Last Day -Dave Sim and Gerhard
The Last Musketeer -Jason
The Left Bank Gang -Jason
The Madame Paul Affair -Julie Doucet
The Mourning Star -Strzepek
The Nightly News -Jonathan Hickman
The Originals -Dave Gibbons
The Perry Bible Fellowship
The Photographer -Guibert
The Quitter -Harvey Pekar and Dean Haspiel
The Rabbi's Cat -Joann Sfar
The Rabbi's Cat 2 -Joann Sfar
The Salon -Nick Bertozzi
The Spirit (Darwyn Cooke's run)
The Summer of Love -Debbie Drechsler
The Ultimates
The Unwritten (pre 2010 issues only) -Mike Carey
The World Below -Chadwick
Thor -J. Michael Straczynski
Three Shadows -Pedrosa
Thunderbolts -Warren Ellis
Tiempos finales -Samuel Hiti
Top 10
Transmetropolitan (last two years) -Warren Ellis
Travel
Treasury of Victorian Murder - Geary
Tricked -Alex Robinson
Usagi Yojimbo -Sakai
Vagabond -Inoue
Vimanarama
Walking Dead -Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard
Wally Gropius strips (from Mome) -Tim Hensley
WE3 -Morrison and Quitely
Weasel -Dave Cooper
Why Are You Doing This? -Jason
Why I Killed Peter -Alfred and Ka
Willworld - DeMatteis and Fisher
Wimbledon Green -Seth
Wolverine: Enemy of the State -Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr
X-Factor -Peter David
X-Force/X-Statix -Milligan and Allred
Y the Last Man -Brian K. Vaughan
Yotsuba&! -Kiyohiko Azuma
You'll Never Know -Carol Tyler
Young Liars -David Lapham

I'll now tackle the backlog of unanswered questions.

definitely would like The Photographer by Guibert on there.

No American Elf? And I'll second a nomination for The Photographer.

Wasn't Cola Madnes a reprint?

Oh just noticed The Photographer on there.

whoops, right under "The". my bad.

Can you add Mister i?

missed "the '00s Alec"

no Losers?

"this is gonna be an ol' fashioned write-in poll and not a pick one, ah hopes?" (forksclovetofu, 11.16.09) and "How many votes are we going to get with this? My top ten, say, are probably all here, but maybe not my top twenty." (sandy, 12.8.09)

To both questions: I don't know -haven't decided yet.

"Big In Japan gets a bit pointlessly superhero by the end but the first issue is so gleeful and amazing. the sandwich!
(actually I'd happily change my nomination just to #1)" (sic, 12.16.09)

Done.

Questions for Philip Nunez:

"there was an israeli compilation called red salmon or something? 
I don't know about best, but it was pretty good." (12.8.09) and "oh the israeli anthology is called dead herring not red salmon!
 here is an excellent comic that was in it: " (12.9.09)

Do you want dead herring to be included in the nominations list? Or the comic that you linked to (as its own entry)?

"scott mccloud's google chrome comic is a very good encapsulation of the 00s." (12.8.09)

Do you want it to be included in the nominations list?

I think Planetary by Warren Ellis deserves a nomination.

Arg -I'm so sorry, but I'm going to have to put this poll on hold for a while as life is very busy for me at the moment. I'll try to finish it sometime in the next few months but can't guarantee it.

Repeat: POLL IS ON HOLD UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

Place your bets on how long it'll take me to actually finish it. Earth, swallow me...

I'd vote for Planetary but I figured it was 90s. I just caught up on Ex Machina, which is excellent. I wish the library carried the collected books of The Boys like it does for Ex Machina, Fables and others. $120 is a bit pricey for six of those slim volumes that would only take a few hours to read.

Oh man, I just saw that Ex Machina only has 3 issues left until the conclusion. I'm excited to read it, but sorry it'll be over. For someone who's reading Doktor Sleepless (if Ellis ever gets it going again), Fables and The Unwritten, what else is recommended?