― SLeeeter Kinney (Leee), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 22 April 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― SLeeeter Kinney (Leee), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
One of the few strips I remember showed the mom grocery shopping with the baby and a woman saying, "Look at the wittle girl! Are you a good girl? Is the good girl grocery shopping with her mommy?" Something like that. When the woman goes away, the girl says, "Some people can be so oddnoxious, mommy." I thought that was cute.
It all seemed too nice, though. Like 7th Heaven. I like to read about grittier stuff.
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 23 April 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)
'Then there's Family Circus, bottom right corner, just waiting to suck. It's the last things you read and it spoils everything you read before it.'
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― sLeeeter kinney (Leee), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)
I love this strip.
― Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)
― M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
The official site has a rundown of most of the minor characters here:
http://www.fborfw.com/char_pgs/who/
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
The awesomeness of FBOFW is lost on me. Gimme a talking robot and WoW references, plz.
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
Oh sorry, wrong thread.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
Maybe I'd get the FBORFW books, it sounds like a soap opera. ... No, no I won't ever get them.
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)
― mushy, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
Did you know there's a bunch of websites dissecting and satirizing this strip? Here's a couple of links:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/binky_betsy/
http://www.livejournal.com/users/ellcee/
http://aprilsrealblog.blogspot.com/
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
I just went to the syndicate's website to steal some of these priceless images and ran across this:
As of September 1st "For Better or For Worse" will no longer be available on Comics.com due to the fact that the creator has not renewed her contract with Comics.com.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 8 December 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Friday, 9 December 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)
― Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Friday, 9 December 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
― scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 9 December 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)
Cripes, the shit that lives in my brane...
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 9 December 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)
― scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish trampycakes (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 11 December 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
I like the last Sunday strip!
― Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:36 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)
But I don't get slocki's joke thatis the true tragedie! :(
― c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)
I'm particularly looking forward to the series of strips where Liz testifies about her assault, and when the assailant is released on a technicality, Anthony goes berserk and shoots the guy, then as Liz' cop boyfriend who's name I forget tries to stop the murder Anthony kills him, and then finally himself.
...what?
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)
I'm saying, yo! My scenario only ends with three minor characters dead and one major one utterly traumatized, alas.
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)
― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)
― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)
(I guarantee we see this sentiment in print by the end of the week.)
― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)
― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:22 (nineteen years ago)
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)
― A B C (sparklecock), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)
This strip has me in tears.
― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)
BOOOOOO. Just end the strip, for fuck's sake, while you've got Leee in tears!
Actually, if the syndicate owns it and could continue it without her, this is probably the best solution.
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)
The strip's creator was referring to Farley, the shaggy canine whose heroic 1995 death (after saving April from drowning) brought Johnston an avalanche of reader mail.
I'm surprised she'd want to fix the characters in teim. Aging is so preferable to the umpteenth time Lucy pulls the ball before Charlie Brown can kick it or Bart's 15th year at Springfield Elementary (to a lesser degree). Farley's death, the Doonesbury characters, Luann, Crankshaft, even Gasoline Alley - all gain greater investments because the characters age.
― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)
― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)
I know too much about this comic considering I don't actually read it.
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:20 (nineteen years ago)
― A B C (sparklecock), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:25 (nineteen years ago)
Why? It's static. Charlie Brown's a loser with a good heart. He doesn't ask the red-headed girl out (or did he? Seems like he got kissed once). He loses his kite. Lucy pulls the football. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Whereas in Luann (and that was just an example of a strip with the characters aging), the characters are allowed to grow, act on crushes/jobs/whatever, fail or succeed, but they evolve to a degree. Peanuts loops. Don't get me wrong, I like Peanuts, but it's McDonalds - guaranteed the same taste regardless of year - while strips that age at least make it to Burger King or Burgerville taste.
Maybe it's the models of Loser, Brat, Wise, Imaginative, Creative, Chaotic that make Peanuts worthy or resonant, not so much their stories, which is where the aging comes in?
And true, on Crankshaft. The adult characters are more timeless than the grandkids, who seem to be growing and moving on. Lena died, however - the woman who made the coffee. Alas, poor Lena.
― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Saturday, 13 January 2007 02:16 (nineteen years ago)
!!!
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)
But the whole point of some strips is variations and refinements on a set of themes, finding new angles and new approaches, teasing out new aspects of it.
The football strips are sort of obvious in their emotional heft, and are iconic of the strip, but consider the "x days until Beethoven's birthday!" strips, which seem to last for weeks in some years, and which are the true test of a daily stripper -- how many times can you tell the same joke without telling the same joke, while bringing something new to it.
I can't imagine what you'd make of Krazy Kat!
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:27 (nineteen years ago)
the tone of 50s Peanuts is MASSIVELY different from 80s Peanuts! and, you know, probably about 300 strips a year were not about topics that Schulz returned to, let alone how his returning to the ones that did become staples let him try and find new nuances or add depth by building on years of playing with the themes.
― nu-mongrel (kit brash), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)
schulz did acknowledge the passing of time on occasion. there's a few sunday strips from the early '70s where charlie brown is remembering the times he used to sit on the bench at lunchtime (in the early '60s, that is) and pine over the little red-haired girl (who has apparently moved away). i think they're the best strips schulz ever did. (you can find them in "sandlot peanuts," if you're interested)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:27 (nineteen years ago)
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Leee, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)
― Deric W. Haircare, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)
― A B C, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)
― Oilyrags, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)
― Oilyrags, Monday, 26 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)
― chaki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)
― Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)
― Leee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)
― R Baez, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)
― Leee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
― Leee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)
― A B C, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)
― Leee, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)