shhhhh secret thread to talk about music without getting into a high-pitched ilm shriekfest on whatever thread is going on atm

u2 is one of the worst bands in the world (sorry sara)

awesome idea but i gotta sb you for the u2 thing

hating on u2 is just pointless they wrote some good songs and some bad songs and they seem like quite reprehensible people that seems to sum it up

I'm not offended; originally I tried to refuse the tickets! It's impossible to fight against Teh Husband AND Teh Ex. I had a good time at the concert, they aren't my favorite, but it was fine.

a friend in the know told me they basically have an extra band that hides under the stage and fills the sound out, plus a little guy who runs about triggering the Edge's pedals for him

^^^ "little guy" sounds like he might be a Hobbit or an Oompa Loompa

u2 sucks

surm don't

ok

thks

u got it.

you're a pure dote, so my granny'd say

U2 are ballers yall just mad

ok to be fair going with the definition i have of ballers yes i can not dispute that

So general disagreement about U2 then.

so wtf is that U2 thread all about

u2

Is it about like, whether they are "good" or if they "suck"? because I think they're alright. not the greatest band in the world, but also not the worst. I used to like them, but I kind of like them now.

^^^basically how I feel

I like some of their songs, don't care about other ones. Some of their songs I like because they remind me of a particular event ("Mysterious Ways" will always bring to mind the insane 24 hour drive to the pro-choice march in 1992 for me, for example).

did you take a metaphorical walk with ur sister in the rain

Disappointing lack of rain that weekend, as I recall, but we did have some lolz because of drinking too much coffee and not having good places to stop for a bathroom break.

Well, those of us who didn't have the coffee probably thought it was funnier than those who did...

thread tldr but i will totally support it if nothing from rattle and hum made the cut

I don't think there has...

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/51594_o.gif

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/cometU2/Bono%20Edge%20Animations/disco-bono-hips-comet.gif

both "Desire" and "All I Want Is You" are on there, I think

also, I voted for "Desire"

as a whole Rattle and Hum is really really terrible

xp: oh, oh no

I think we can all agree that Bono must be stopped

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/cometU2/Adam%20Animations/ali-adam-bounce-bigslcomet.gif

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/cometU2/Larry%20Animations/larry-banging-comet.gif

so basically you are saying we can blame Coldplay on them

yes

looks like i have been right all along then

this thread is now officially the nadir of ilx

i do my best

I feel like I've seen much, much worse here (she said darkly).

I want to reach out
and touch the flame
because I'm an insufferable asshole whose band is terrible
awwwww yeahhhh
an insufferable asshole whose band is terrible

I love you

oh my god

i love you too (not u2)

a friend in the know told me they basically have an extra band that hides under the stage

this was actually shown in the doco thing that went on before their live-around-the-world-via-satellite show from Sydney in 1993ish. though iirc it was three or four extra Edges, not a whole band of more competent players to outshine the dullard twins

oh my god those gifs... the bongos...

all is quiet
on new year's day
except for me
I'm just yowling away
I will be with you again
because some dickhead will put my record on at a party
pwnd

all you are doing is making me imagine Bono singing "Tower of Strength"

if I were a tower of strength, I'd walk away
I'd look in your eyes, and here's what I'd say:
"blah blah blah, everything I say is extremely important,
get really into classic rock, it's awesome"
think I'll say that anyway, I'm fucking Bono

must say I'm impressed by your multitasking

this thread is making me paradoxically sad that I don't actually know more U2 music

.

^^^ pretty sure that is all hilarious, but don't know the songs being referenced

probably more evidence that I live under a rock. SHOCKER

reference cliffnotes for Sara R-C:

I want to reach out
and touch the flame
because I'm an insufferable asshole whose band is terrible
awwwww yeahhhh
an insufferable asshole whose band is terrible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQxl9EI9YBg

all is quiet
on new year's day
except for me
I'm just yowling away
I will be with you again
because some dickhead will put my record on at a party
pwnd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Y-t85vs4g

if I were a tower of strength, I'd walk away
I'd look in your eyes, and here's what I'd say:
"blah blah blah, everything I say is extremely important,
get really into classic rock, it's awesome"
think I'll say that anyway, I'm fucking Bono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A&ob=av2e

When U2 played in Glasgow a couple of years ago Bono stood on stage snapping his fingers and said, every time I snap my fangers astarving child somewhere in the world dies. Someone in the crowd shouted, Well stop snapping your fingers then you sick bastard.

alecahauf 2 months ago

<3

Oh, deX, many <3 <3 <3

hahahaha

xxp would take that a lot more seriously if it wasn't coming from someone who bought a first class plane ticket for his hat. Like most bands, U2 have some good tunes, some bad tunes. But it's Bono's 'saving the world single handed' thing I can't abide.

it really helps if you live under a rock and thus can live in blissful ignorance of that sort of thing

there is always a bunch of ILM people that overly judge a song by the lyrics and then say something like "the tune isn't so hot either". These people are backwards. Lyrics should come second

yes but what does that have to do with Bono

probably like someone cooking you a pretty bad meal about which sure there are complaints to be made, but which is made totally worse by bono thrusting at you while you eat it

its like ordering a dominos pizza and then bono shows up to deliver it and has his dick sticking through the middle

and that pizza is called the angel of harlem special

concavesausagepizza.com

Ah, what a wonderful thread.

BTW this is the single worst piece of criticism written by anyone anywhere, and when I read it I was already thinking "Christ, fuck U2" after Rattle and Hum came out and then I read this and figured I need not trust Robert Hilburn, who I had only just learned about, on anything for the future. In retrospect this was one of the smartest decisions I've ever made.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-11-20/entertainment/ca-441_1_rock-band

omg the title alone

I kind of can't believe he is referring to Bono as "Hewson"

I can. All too clearly.

If U2 has an artistic Achilles' heel, it may be its eagerness to live up to what it sees as the idealism and integrity of rock's finest moments. The danger is that the band may look to critics as the arbiter of rock 'n' roll honor and begin second-guessing itself in view of the sharp critical disagreement over the band's latest step; instead of pursuing its own artistic impulses, it could end up weakening its vision in hopes of seeking some sort of consensus approval.

okay even at the time this is like the dumbest possible thing anyone could say about U2; the fact that the next thing U2 released was Achtung, Baby just makes it worse

Oh I forgot -- best detail is that in the original print run of that piece when I read it, it was accompanied by a black and white line drawing showing Bono standing at the fork in the road on a desert highway or something, himself split in two as he deeply pondered on WHICH WAY HE SHOULD TAKE OH THE ART.

oh my god

page 2

OH MY GOD

I can't even excerpt a quote, it's all so fawning and stupid and are we sure Hilburn wasn't actually a horny 13-year-old girl when he wrote this

http://www.roberthilburnonline.com/uploads/2/3/9/9/2399246/3563261.jpg?198x287

"Heheh, hehehehe, you said girl, heheheheheheh."

Dear 1988,

What. The. Hell.

Love, Sara

free to defend preening songster (3,4)

Man oh man do I ever dislike soundgarden

I can't even claim passing familiarity with soundgarden...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg

yr welcome

btw John, are you just going to use this thread to go "this band that currently has a poll thread on ILM, I do not like them *arms crossed*"?

Man oh man do I ever dislike soundgarden

― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

That song/video makes me irrationally angry.

btw John, are you just going to use this thread to go "this band that currently has a poll thread on ILM, I do not like them *arms crossed*"?

― DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:40 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

pretty sure that is exactly what you should use it for.

I was thinking I should defend everyone but considering we've started with U2 and Soundgarden that may end in tears for me

option a - show up in ilm thread with "duh this band sucks durr durr"
option b - this thread

because srsly soundgarden is some sort of i have no mouth but i must scream impulse for me so best to be done with it

no love for "Spoonman"?

okay literally I started laughing the instant I hit submit post

PLAYING TEH METAL WITH HIS HAAAHAHAAAHHHNDDDS

KILL ME

pretty sure grunge did more to destroy basic singing skills than any other form of music

lyrics dont have enough syllables? well just fucking add as many as you want!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_zzCLLRvE&ob=av3e

lol this is funnier than I remembered

xp: um you remember punk happened, right

bah punk is stylistic, these people got accolades for being singers.

you know whats better than a vowel sound? ALL OF THE VOWEL SOUNDS IN A ROW ALL THE TIME

was going to go all techy and use formant but theres no need for this dumb thread to go highbrow

let me try another tack:

um you remember that hair metal happened, right

because the funniest thing about "Spoonman" to me is that dude sings it like it's "The Final Countdown"

yeah idk for me its half the vowel thing and half the "plz allow me to chew all these consonants as much as possible nom nom"

"i am growling all these words because i am so fake tortured and saddo"

also can I just point out that invoking "stylistic" as a defense for one form of terrible, terrible singing over the other essentially says "I have no defensible argument, I just like one more than the other"

also no one abused vowels more than homegirl from The Cranberries

nah i disagree with that, grunge specifically presented the singer as some sort of auteur, and lots of people hold up people like eddie vedder as great technical singers - nobody is saying that about henry rollins.

cranberries otm tho.

also there isnt really a punk vocal style per se, unless you wanna get into intangibles like snarl or attitude or fake englishmen or some other such bullshit - but grunge does have this sorta central baritone except when they try to hit notes they cant chewy sorta character to it

no one on Earth who has any conception of how singing works thinks any of the grunge singers are great technical singers

some of them had very strong senses of pitch (hi dere Kurt Cobain) but the early 00s spawn they inspired (aside from dude in Staind) are all actually much better singers, like for example I'm never going to by a Chad Kroger/Nickelback CD but I am fully prepared to say he's a better singer than any of the grunge heyday folks except possibly the dudes in Alice In Chains (whom I only caveat because I only know one song of theirs that I haven't heard in literally a decade)

when arguments like "the grunge guys were all amazing singers with great technique" come around, it makes me weep for how poor music education in this country is

being able to growl in tune does not make you a great singer

JJusten OTM X 1000

growling in tune is not the worst way for an untalented singer to approach it tbh

My favorite punk vocalist is H.R. -- no idea if he's a good singer or not though.

I would say he is a great singer, personally; a little nasal at times in his technique but it's a very distinctive, evocative sound (if not the most flexible, but then again he's not doing a lot that requires being nimble)

i want to talk about killing joke extremities etc but i dont want to deal with the overload of "lol alexnyc <3s killing joke wtf omg?!??!" in the search function.

let me start with the measured response of i dont listen to this all the time and in this way i am wasting my life

kreayshawn and her song "gucci gucci" makes me want to drink bleach

Foster the People are on some low rent "can we get some guys that look like a less douchey version of 3OH3" MGMT first album bullshit

the Kreayshawn adulation just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit

I have yet to hear Foster The People and I'm holding onto that for as long as I can

fight hard fight strong they are crazy mediocre

the Kreayshawn adulation just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit

― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:05 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc her fanbase is largely girls?

sorry let me amend that:

the Kreayshawn adulation on ILM just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit, plus ppl younger than me have no taste and won't get off my lawn *shakes walker*

this type thing worries me because to me she looks like she is about 15

the Kreayshawn adulation on ILM just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit, plus ppl younger than me have no taste and won't get off my lawn *shakes walker*

― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ehh this is still condescending and inaccurate

shhhhh secret thread to talk about music without getting into a high-pitched ilm shriekfest on whatever thread is going on atm

lol

how condescending of me to say I'm old and out of touch with what people like

i meant more the thing about how we must have crushes on the artist vs. it being a well constructed song from a distinct personality but w/e thats not for this thread

I agree it's not for this thread but the point is that I am speaking as a knowingly unreliable narrator, or IOW stop taking everything so seriously sometimes it is just joeks

ahh

like yes, I honestly am not that big on Kreyashawn, but no I don't actually think every guy who does like her only does so because they want to bone her

Ciara otoh...

you can't argue in here -- this is the idiot thread repository

im being srscat today for w/e reason

Something about Kreyashawn's voice is nails-on-chalkboard to me. Like, if she were somewhere merely talking to her friends in that voice, I would have to leave the room.

I liked her better when she was in L'Trimm

girl i know posted a youtube of kreyashawn cooking with the note "watching her cook is so sensual"

dammit and I just changed my display name

http://www.stereomcs-emperorsnightingale.com/

you guys

there are a bunch of actually good songs here

what happened, I am confused

oh cool one more place on the internet to talk about kreayshawn

damn u

listening to Screamadelica for the first time in about... 18 years?

I don't hate "Movin' On Up" as much as I used to, but I still hate it.

"Slip Inside This House" is still awesome tho

i am going to mention for the 500th time in my life that there are various tracks from this album in the early 90s cindy crawford workout video
pretty sure the warm up was "movin on up" but not sure iirc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSbEkn9b93k

hahaha that is amazing

trying to imagine Cindy sweating it out to "Higher Than The Sun"

btw I made it 4 songs into Screamadelica before skipping it altogether

np: Dummy, which is just awesome

she does
well, she did at least
i remember thinking that i knew something that most viewers/users of that workout video didn't know, and it gave me a deeper appreciation for radu's challenging (painful) workout
amazon reviews show that i was probably accurate
http://www.amazon.com/Cindy-Crawford-Shape-Your-Workout/dp/B0000X61VE

original was 1992 i think?

MUSICAL CHOICE is not the usual instrumental used in most videos; her choice is similar to her other video. Credits of musical selections are listed at the end, most songs performed by Primal Scream, Seal contributes "Crazy", "Ice" by Daniel Lanois, "State of Shock" Revenge and "Dis Moi Dis Moi" by Mitsou. It's unique and refreshing.

WAHT wau

i am not sure i get primal scream most of the time

really the only songs of theirs I can deal with are "Loaded" and "Slip Inside This House"

although I think maybe I also liked "Swastika Eyes"?

http://open.spotify.com/track/4YLNn4UXFxQ8MpkhKfJA1O <-- yeah I dig this

"slip" is an elevators song, so that's why it's good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSA0Tckwbk

ha I think I knew that at one point

wait primal scream covered 13th floor elevators

how did i always see the name of that song and never make the connection before

btw I am working my way through this:

http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/6OrR2ntGSoosucm2GFjKBU

I am not nearly as into Pulp as I was in 1997/1998, kind of to my surprise

hahaha i am sorta into pulp for the first time in my life starting about oh a year ago? bought that brit box basically to take myself to reeducation camp for all the stuff i refused to listen to when it was current

and by "into pulp" i guess i mean "i have finally heard common people and enjoy it"

<3 13th floor e's for all time

ha I did something similar around 2000 with the Napster explosion, and even then there were bands I really should have been totally up on years earlier whose catalogs I only really started EXPLORING like, 3-4 years ago (example: zomg Siouxsie and the Banshees have albums besides Peepshow, Tinderbox, Hyaena and Superstition??? WHO KNEW oh wait, everybody knew that)

oh btw "Common People" is still great, it's just a lot of the other songs on Different Class are kind of drippy and limp

kind of like how on This Is Hardcore half the songs are awesome dark seduction pieces and half the songs are Jarvis wanking into a microphone

early signs are pointing to me finding Gomez completely pointless

ATTN JJJUSTEN

in case you'd completely written them off, these are the tracks worth listening to off the most recent Prodigy album which overall is much much better than it should be:

"Take Me To The Hospital":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncaNlxvTFzg

"Warrior's Dance":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBNpdXkLnU

"Omen":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMVTKOoy1uk&feature=relmfu

no offense to people who enjoy it but that shift the hyphen in the artist - album title thread makes me wanna go all strongo mod on it

oh I glanced at that for like a nanosecond and then backed away

using google news results to indicate relative popularity does not work when only one of the people involved has recently had nude photos leaked to the internet

ha

http://open.spotify.com/track/0eKSZmohT1FWEvjK584liN

attn JOHN

no spotify at work

well then it sucks to be YOU

(it's the new Primus album)

is it actually good?

It's more Frizzle Fry than Pork Soda, although not as weird.

It does have this on it, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvAF2LK95KE

pork soda is the beginning of the end

I agree! This is much better than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAKZFeX_Sd8&feature=related

I am digging this too

i have found the female vocal tone that most exemplifies all that is wrong with the way people sing these days and it comes out of the mouth of the otherwise somewhat pleasant zooey deschannell

hahaha OTM

the breakup of REM has zero (0) impact on me

yeah amen - a band i liked a lot 20 years ago or so but

ok so do you remember doctor calculus?

haha duh YES OF COURSE

didn't you bring them up like 2 weeks ago on another thread? I ask because someone sent me chasing down "Full Of Love"/"Perfume From Spain" on Youtube and really you're the most likely candidate

well looky looky

http://witchseason.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-mind-went-yo.html

The URL you are accessing has been blocked by the Barracuda Web Filter because it contains content belonging to the category of: Social Networking

boo

ty iPhone for letting me see that entry

I have Designer Beatnik on cassette somewhere in a box

my god, "The Darkest Star" off of Playing The Angel is slaying me right now

http://open.spotify.com/track/17wy0YEQd6HLPqKz54UJc5

love love LOVE Playing The Angel

http://open.spotify.com/local/The+Jets/The+Jets/Curiosity/300

btw YAY MN

http://open.spotify.com/track/60QjTmS0boM1UzmBZjSTJT

every now and then Xtina reminds me that she can be really really awesome

(yes I did just add a bunch of random songs to my Spotify play queue and am reviving threads as songs come up)

did you know that Alanis Morrisette did a cover of "Crazy"? because I didn't

http://open.spotify.com/track/27cJHbsqx5idVLRZ4f5VsN

http://open.spotify.com/track/5gnDz7FESyCkHpz0V1li86

I really am sad that the overly emo teenage dude lipsynching this song was taken off of Youtube because it was HILARIOUS

not that the song isn't funny without it, oh Cranberries and your overwrought inappropriate melodrama combined with your stupid stupid lyrics

http://open.spotify.com/track/3JoEudxv4MYugQXrxMSUVs

remember when Fatboy Slim was awesome

http://open.spotify.com/track/7zNWQ95Qj0IBJ9RDpg2K60

remember when Photek was awesome

http://open.spotify.com/track/2nxx9NfFfQnUQ4HYx42sJJ

Hail To The Thief really is my favorite Radiohead album by miles and miles

http://open.spotify.com/track/2HdVxaORfb5QKpUuxcwpMC

aero likes to talk about how Sisters of Mercy became terrible when they started releasing albums; I maintain that they became different and that this moody, atmopsheric, thumping song is a fantastic example of why they shouldn't be written off. I still rate this over a good 50% of the early Sisterhood material.

http://open.spotify.com/track/1kSWrMDt439cT64WpjJigW

why do I like this song so much

http://open.spotify.com/track/4P78liAXuhEwT94Q5XN4HO

every Altern8 song mashed together into an awesome megamix, almost makes owning the album inessential (note: ALMOST)

I'LL TAKE YOU DOWN THERE
I'LL TAKE YOU

BACK INTO THE BACK INTO THE BACK INTO THE

^_^

I have gone from that to... With Sympathy

...mmm Spotify i love you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsct-e-HVE0

why is it that 15 years later, without influence of any drugs whatsoever, I now TOTALLY get this shit

have you ever wondered what it would sound like if Tom Jones & Portishead did a version of "Motherless Child"? well now you don't have to worry anymore:

http://open.spotify.com/track/2bcwtZiPZsRfdCLzCdM9vA

btw, the best song to follow a Portishead orgy?

http://open.spotify.com/track/70W4DBX8YjGoShSGxicDTG

you guys, DIE FORM

http://open.spotify.com/album/1RPcpL4fFgBeIXY72d9ugX

http://open.spotify.com/album/51EorldsNHaCQ3sT758ah7

^^^ yes^infinity

my fave plastikman jam, 5 minutes of buildup and tinny computer speakers don't really do it justice but w/e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RJlvCe7W-w

6:18 is such a stupid trick but I love it

this shit is zen

1. you lock the target
2. you bait the line
3. you slowly spread the net, and
4. you catch the man

why is it that 15 years later, without influence of any drugs whatsoever, I now TOTALLY get this shit

― the tax avocado (DJP), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:47 (5 days ago) Bookmark

I'm yet to understand that track... Have tried...

most of this stuff seems to me to be about submerging yourself in stasis so that the initial adrenaline rush washes over you in continuous waves mixed in with shifting into a mindset where you are really focusing on minute shifts in the pattern sequencing rather than the overall structure, which can come across very easily as two measures of drum pattern repeated for 10 minutes

btw: ILX pre-covers LULU -- the Lou Reed/Metallica album

this is great so far

In honor of the new Skinny Puppy album out this week, I've been playing Bites on Spotify. Still an amazing, amazing album.

http://open.spotify.com/album/6dqEXFFB1FeCyovD2lwAWk

http://open.spotify.com/track/5keAwdUe92jFfo7IOS0sy9

A MILLION TIMES YES

I don't think this merits an entire thread but I'd rank the songs on KMKMKM thusly:

Like Cockatoos
The Kiss
One More Time
The Snakepit
Just Like Heaven
How Beautiful You Are...
If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
Torture
Hot Hot Hot!!!
The Perfect Girl
All I Want
Why Can't I Be You?
Icing Sugar
Fight
Catch
Shiver and Shake
Hey You!!!
A Thousand Hours

also can I talk for a second how awesome "Unity In Dub" by Austin is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6JTcGGDypo

also the STOP-GO remix from Speed Limit 140+ BPM 3: The Joint is undeniable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-lzrjU3SLs

actually fuck it, everything on The Joint is essential listening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjkwDV267c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCsCepzVemU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk9n0dFhwAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVya7DRfE9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_2Xp45XJk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mksCnb_USuc

^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AX-aH3F21A

DAMMIT I CANNOT FIND THE ORIGINAL "Mystic Stepper" BY OMNI TRIO ON YOUTUBE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwQYGIeppBk

fyi this will literally melt your face

(I already posted Austin so pretend it reappeared here)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALaBKnM6oAg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPEPfWEN4Rc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bA9Yjmzx70

thus ends today's breakbeat nostalgia fit

WHAT IS GOING ON yessssssss

i feel like a jerk banging on about this in the la weekly rap thread but oh my god, who is this jeff weiss writer and how do i stop him : http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2011/10/top_20_greatest_la_rap_albums_3.php?print=true

(i was also worried that he might read regular ilx and i didnt want to be a dick, so i took it back to our beloved backwater borad).

lol @ "print=true" on that URL

How do you speak pimp? Let Suga Free learn you something.

DEATH IS TOO GOOD

speaking of ppl who should be killed, did you happen to hear what Ministry did to "Everyday Is Halloween" last year???????? unforgivable

no

but i bet it would make me very very sad

http://open.spotify.com/track/6zGSwtyUKdhb658kGz8aRV

FUCK YOU AL JOURGENSON, YOU HAVE BEEN WORTHLESS FOR 20 YEARS

oh fuuuuuuuuuuck this

I KNOW

I mean, you listen to horseshit like that and then you go back to random rarity tracks from their early career like "I'm Falling" and it's like "why did you repudiate everything that made you good and interesting in favor of becoming the world's worst band"

for reference: http://open.spotify.com/track/6zS95UFujKevZZjbiBrDEH

great band: http://open.spotify.com/track/0xeDLCRWblZsk3qfojrRqM
TERRIBLE band: http://open.spotify.com/track/4CdH04HcZHMBLtDULDHFfe

lol this is on the Ministry Spotify page:

http://open.spotify.com/album/6z0z1vUfaJf7jTHpCEnsTa

this just in: Disintegration is awesome

apparently there is an emcee out there named Tity Boi

RIP hip-hop 1978-2007

mabye he is just very fastidious, have you thought of that mr man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBx-M2oRBLg

somehow I don't think so

hmmmmm

it is somewhat less surprising to learn that Tity Boi worked with Weezy

*ribald jeffersons joke*

you know what today's theme is, is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOFKU_hwj2o

QUESTION

also I am listening to the new Florence & the Machine album and I am surprised that she isn't foghorning ever song into submission...?

http://open.spotify.com/album/5SxudoALxEAVh9l83kSebx

lol of course the instant I post that she starts blaring LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER TO LOVER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WII2Gu9z-uE

digging Single Gun Theory today, had kind of forgotten how much I like "Surrender"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdIsupFaL_8

why did this pop into my head

also how do I get a job as Shakira's monitor speaker

omfg how did I forget about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4QWu70E1g&feature=related

lol 90s

Youtube is a treasure trove of Movement tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4QWu70E1g&feature=related

you guys

remember They Eat Their Own?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJc7F3vhx4U

oh also, were Nada Surf always kind of great and I just never noticed?

Rusko really makes me *eternal sadface*

he's got this great starting track called "Somebody To Love" that starts out as old-school UK hardcore/breakbeat and sounds like it's going to be a total sunny throwback, and then it just WALLOWS in this lumpen unenergetic dubstep fart beat and it's just fucking terrible

like, just don't do the dubstep bullshit and you'd be amazing! the only time it really worked for you was "Hammertime"

;_; this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6X0PqIWfzQ&feature=related

i wanna talk about this. -ilm

pro tip - searching for LP or halo or LP+halo on ilx is a hopeless endeavor

holy shit

I kind of adore this woman

"halo halo halo" becomes "ella ella ella"

do her lungs go to her knees? sounds like trickery

pssst

this is prob a total promo setup but still pretty charming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_DN0MeOspw

dear dang perrrrry, i want to start a full on "people who are actually technically impressive and adept singers and i know because i am one of them" thread on ilm but i will need your backup. also maybe that is not a good title.

oh hey, look at this

I would totally support that thread if you still want to start it

is this a good place for me to go through the ilm tracks list

note: didnt vote

that doesnt change the fact that i have OPINIONS 4 U

77. DAWN RICHARD "Pretty Wicked Things" [188 points, 6 votes]
75. CHROMATICS "Kill For Love" [188 points, 7 votes]
75. ALUNAGEORGE "You Know You Like It" [188 points, 7 votes]
74. ANDRÉS "New For U" [190 points, 6 votes]
73. JAVIERA MENA "Luz de Piedra de Luna" [190 points, 7 votes]
71. PULP "After You" [192 points, 6 votes]
71. G-DRAGON "Crayon" [192 points, 6 votes]
70. TY DOLLA $IGN "My Cabana" [193 points, 8 votes]
69. FUTURE "Same Damn Time" [194 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
68. NICKI MINAJ FT. 2 CHAINZ "Beez in the Trap" [198 points, 9 votes]
67. NICKI MINAJ "Starships" [200 points, 8 votes]
66. DAWN RICHARD "Faith" [202 points, 7 votes]
65. JAPANDROIDS "The House That Heaven Built" [203 points, 7 votes]
64. GURU "Lapaz Toyota" [204 points, 6 votes]
63. DONKIE PUNCH & LORENZO "Snapbacks n Tattoos" [206 points, 6 votes]
62. NICK HANNAM & TOM GARNETT FT. TOM ZANETTI "You Want Me" [214 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
61. TAME IMPALA "Feels Like Only We Go Backwards" [214 points, 8 votes]

60. KEITH FULLERTON WHITMAN "Issue Generator (for Eliane Radigue)" [216 points, 5 votes, 1 first place vote]
59. HAIM "Forever" [218 points, 8 votes]
58. ANGEL HAZE "New York" [218 points, 9 votes]
57. MUNGOLIAN JETSET "Toccata" [220 points, 6 votes]
56. JESSIE WARE "Running" [224 points, 7 votes]
55. JESSIE WARE "Wildest Moments" [224 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
54. CHER LLOYD "Want U Back" [225 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
53. HOT CHIP "Let Me Be Him" [227 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
52. GRIMES "Genesis" [229 points, 11 votes]
51. BURIAL "Kindred" [236 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
50. TWIN SHADOW "Five Seconds" [236 points, 9 votes]
49. SANTIGOLD "Disparate Youth" [241 points, 9 votes]
48. PURITY RING "Fineshrine" [244 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes]
47. HAIM "Don't Save Me" [244 points, 9 votes]
46. BRUNO MARS "Locked Out of Heaven" [246 points, 7 votes]
45. ALEX ANWANDTER "Como Puedes Vivir Contigo Mismo?" [250 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
44. SPIRITUALIZED "Hey Jane" [251 points, 10 votes]
43. JOHN TALABOT FT. PIONAL "Destiny" [253 points, 9 votes]
42. NICKI MINAJ "Stupid Hoe" [256 points, 9 votes]
41. NENEH CHERRY AND THE THING "Dream Baby Dream" [257 points, 9 votes]

40. MIGUEL "Use Me" [260 points, 8 votes]
39. CHERYL COLE "Call My Name (Royal-T's Back to 99 Remix)" [260 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
38. DEATH GRIPS "I've Seen Footage" [268 votes, 8 points]
37. RIHANNA "Birthday Cake (Funkystepz Miami Bass Mix)" [271 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
36. KALENNA "Matte Black Truck" [286 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
35. KANYE WEST FT. BIG SEAN, PUSHA T & 2 CHAINZ "Mercy" [286 points, 12 votes]
34. CHIEF KEEF FT. LIL REESE "I Don't Like" [291 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. JEREMIH "773 Love" [299 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
32. LE1F "Wut" [302 points, 11 votes]
31. KW GRIFF FT. PORK CHOP "Bring in the Katz" [312 points, 10 votes, 2 first place votes]
30. M.I.A. "Bad Girls" [314 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
29. TAYLOR SWIFT "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" [316 points, 14 votes]
28. ZEBRA KATZ FT. NJENA REDDD FOXXX "Ima Read" [322 points, 14 votes]
27. SCOTT WALKER "Epizootics!" [330 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
26. ANGEL HAZE "Werkin' Girls" [335 points, 13 votes]
25. BAT FOR LASHES "Laura" [342 points, 13 votes]
24. JESSIE WARE "110%" [351 points, 12 votes]
23. FRANK OCEAN "Thinkin' Bout You" [352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
22. SAINT ETIENNE "Tonight" [356 points, 11 votes]
21. KENDRICK LAMAR FT. GUNPLAY "Cartoon & Cereal" [361 points, 10 votes]

77 - moody spookfest that seems to have a less soprano kate bush quality to it, inobtrusive autotuney nonsense that doesn't really need to be here. until we get to the chorus and then we get a batshit load of it that i don't want/need. def not anywhere near the other stuff i have heard by her.

dude you should have voted

also come post on that thread, we could use a good shriekfest

75. chromatics - cut rate m83 with a female vocal? maybe a grower? i dont like it. something of an ignorable 90s 4ad vibe going on.

75. alunageorge - i dig this, although there is a little more baby voice going on than i prefer, i dont need cutesy signifiers. something i wouldnt turn off, but not something i would spend a lot of time with.

those people scare me and i am at the most casually invested in any of this tho

74. andres - innocuous. odd to imagine people getting really excited about this. ever. makes me think of the soundtrack you would get in those "Minds Eye" early computer graphic film compilations. this would be the one where you were a poorly rendered bird flying over a jungle island landscape.

be ready to say that about half of the things ppl voted for; the 2010s are really becoming an age where everyone wants the edges sanded off of their music

otm :(

I mean, I love glossy smoothness too but I can't live my entire life on it and the phobic degree some ppl exhibit when something is the least bit messy or aggressive is baffling to me

73. javiera mena - what happened i was napping i think a lady might have done a downtempo cover of Bailamos

71. pulp - before i heard this i was really looking forward to making a "haha no one listens to pulp anymore do they". and now i can.

dropping a dissonant track into an ILM end of year countdown thread is akin to saying something nice about the working class at the dowager countess' table.

i did post something abt the icona pop song on the main thread, because that seemed less irritating than me showing up with my insights on stuff that showed up 2400 posts ago

I find it completely inconceivable that ppl actually dig that song

71. g-dragon - this might be ok if this dude would shut the fuck up but i think that is just because then it would basically be pon de floor

70. ty dolla $ign - this is boring altho the mix of how hilariously fucking not ok the lyrics are juxtaposed with the bland ass song is fun i guess

haha that description actually got me to play the G-Dragon track; I'd been skipping the Youtube-only selections

Ty Dolla $ign is a blight in terms of lack of talent and how thoroughly boring he manages to be despite the egregious misogyny

its kind of startling. not good but startling

69. future - man idgi, theres nothing going on here that strikes me, and it just sounds so fucking lazy, and its been done better over and over before

welcome to hip-hop in 2012, where being fucking boring and ratchet as hell are positives

bad call naming yourself future and then delivering by the numbers nothingness. still probably my favorite thing so far. thats not good.

I was actually kind of blase about "Beez in the Trap" until I heard it come right after Future and was all "oh thank God"

i thought g-dragon ranking was funny because ilm hates dubstep but apparently if you put goofy korean rapping on top of it it's suddenly ok

double shot of nicki minaj huh

68. - laid back is not nickis forte, and it really shows on this track. please let something happen some time in this song ffs aggh this 2 chainz dude sucks uggghhh

67. - ok i know this song and im not listening to it again, i fucking hate hate hate the chorus, but that is set in stark relief to the totally different way i hate the verses

hahaha OTM re: "Starships", watching ILM slowly embrace it was my biggest dissapointment of 2012

those people scare me too

66. dawn richard - ok i remember really liking dawn richard, but i am just not really feeling this song that much? its def not bad, and i could see it being something that might really step up its game listening it more, although i am sick to death of the ascending synth line schtick this year. might need some more time with this.

is this the "ilm is shitter than ever" enclave?

haha well it certainly has its moments of that

ok i am really happy this thread exists now that people are gnashing their teeth abt the injustice in this miguel track taking third place

65. japandroids - sub against me! yowl rock, done a million times better by at least 40 bands that are playing in shitty bars in your hometown right now.

64. guru - at least this is interesting right off the bat, and now that i am aways in, its heads above everything up until now. not in my general wheelhouse but yeah i could see working this into rotation. yep, this is pretty good, will be returning to it for sure.

see i dont hate everything! just most of this list so far

trivia - guru is the only song that i have been able to get all the way through without skipping ahead

ok i know this song and im not listening to it again, i fucking hate hate hate the chorus, but that is set in stark relief to the totally different way i hate the verses

so OTM

Just checked out that song via youtube. Is it on purpose where she looks like Richard D. James in Windowlicker?

do i really need to listen to a track made by someone who chooses to call themselves donkie punch

only if you're down with dumbfounded incredulity at your fellow ilmers

63. donkie punch & lorenzo - i kept jumping around on youtube thinking i was stumbling onto the same terrible basement remix of this song, but it appears this is actually the original. wtf

62. nick hannam and a bunch of other people - this is an ok meh limp house track i suppose but theres gotta be better stuff in this vein i imagine. ugh who is this second idiot. yck. this dude is awful why is this happening

62 could be mediocre ok if it was just the lady and none of this terrible guy

61. tame impala - is this another animal collective spin off? its not the worst thing of the day but it is also nearly impossible to imagine people getting excited about it

no wait, this is wretched and endless

so out of the first days rollout i like exactly one song, which is that guru track

I like this rollout better jjjusten. I don't want to slap you and tell you to get a hold of yourself. You should make this a thing.

I dunno he's been pretty much OTM so far

I like the Dawn Richard tracks but otherwise yeah, jjj otm

I def don't dislike the dawn Richard tracks, I just like them less than I expected/remembered

I dunno he's been pretty much OTM so far

that's what i was saying!

For god's sake will ye not shit on yr own doorstep, ilm?

but if we don't, who will?

I am really anticipating jjj's reaction to Cher Lloyd; I have no idea which way it will go

haha i know that song so i can predict that my response would be

-how is it possible that ILM stops just short of suggesting that jessie j should be stabbed to death in a back alley somewhere and then vote this to spot 54 on its end of year list

hahahahaha yesssss

its good to finally know the artist name because i honestly spent half the year wondering who had convinced jessie j that a half-assed nicki minaj impression on the chorus was a good move.

60. keith fullerton whitman - holy crap i love this. a lot.
59. haim forever - so this is basically dumbed down bored out tune yards meh hot garbage. booooooring. it brings out sort of a special place of hatred from me. irrational yes but god i really really hate this.

How does Haim remind you of tuneyards??

the same way foster the people reminds me of mgmt, it just seems like the blippy vocal punctuation and the quirky boppy almost subsaharan rhythm and guitar lines have some shared lineage, but done so much less compellingly.

i mean point of ref there would be "the bizness" to "forever" i guess - the quirky luaka bop vibe without anything behind it. idk.

58. angel haze - pretty much had me from the word go, love the track, love the little captured inhalations in the way she is recorded, same sorta O_O reaction i had when i first "212", but with more lasing power i think and less minajisms. chorus is fucking awesome, yeah this is killer top to bottom. thx ilx!

hey before i get to 57, is this a remix of jaga jazzist, or am i on the wrong youtube or ?

57. Mungolain Jetset - sounds like somebody spent a lot of time listening to SAW. not a bad thing necc, and its getting more interesting as it goes, i was worried i was going to spend 6 minutes in the intro loop there for a while. completely pleasant, but not what i am looking for.

56. jessie ware running - ok first things first i have to stop trying to figure out what this bloopy synth intro reminds me of because that is driving me crazy. dont like this. this woman cant sing for shit, and sounds like she is using sade (who is good) to pass off a totally mediocre vocal. never mind, its not just mediocre, she is awful. cant wait to shut this off and skip to the next track OH NO

55. jessie ware wildest moments - background music might be better on this one, but she hasnt started singing yet so. i hate this less but oh man what the fuck she has srsly one of the most annoying vocal characters and its just so dull.

hmm, I have successfully avoided both Fester the Peehole and MGMT to the point where I think I only halfway get the link you're making; I'd have leaned way more in the direction of "The Bangles cover Pink" for Haim comparisons

also I have no idea what Jaga Jazzist is or which Angel Haze Youtube you were looking at

54. cher lloyd - weve covered this already

53. hot chip - cant find a non-live youtube of this and its hot chip so i dont care to try very hard

you're gonna get to saint etienne and braek my heart w/yr revulsion

I was very pleasantly surprised by Saint Etienne! (not enough to, you know, actually listen to the album, but I liked it more than the general "oh this is nice" reaction I've had to most of their material)

i was thinking a st et/pet shop boys split EP where they each cover two songs by the other band would be the most amazing thing in the world.

we can discus further upon jjj's reaction to their entry.

52. grimes - seems to start up with sort of a "enya got into the liquor cabinet again" woozy tunelessness, but we'll give it some time. probably should avert my eyes from the video because its next level annoying, and that shouldnt really count against it. ok intro is over, and musically it seems like it could go somewhere ok maybe, and yay the vocals dont seem to suck, until oh my god they sure do. the gauzy 4ad tm vocal side was ok, but the bleaty shit going on here is a huge misstep. theres something there i can get behind, but an unfortunate tendency to go cutesy at all the wrong spots. i am still half into it though? but the half i dont like is reaaaaaaaally irritating.

^^^ Grimes in a nutshell

"enya got into the liquor cabinet again"

lmfao

51. burial - jesus man 11.5 minutes? appealing darkness and off kilter shit going on right away, massive tricky attack something, finally something with an actual active beat, digging the destructo garble nastiness, meh shut up vocals no need for you (mitigated slightly as we go, but i request an instrumental version if at all possible) liking the manipulated vocals that are rolling out now better, god the fact that this is so refreshingly abrasive has to say something abt everything up until now (and ha its not even really that abrasive in my world of old people but you know). another bright spot, why is there not more music like this in the countdown idgi.

despite the length, listened to all of burial fyi. that makes 4 things so far? guru, keith fullerton etc, angel haze, and now burial.

burial might just maybe slightly overstay its welcome, but not if i was in a diff environment ie not listening to youtubes at work

that track is the first time something by Burial actually clicked for me, which as you say does say a lot about the stuff that had placed up to that point

4ad has been pretty busy huh.

50. twin shadow - spoken word intro what the fuck is this the silver mt. zion? do they quit this ever? come the fuck on. oh wait i take it all back, i would rather listen to dumb spoken word than mumbly joe here. you ever have a song that just makes you instantly disinterested, yeah this is that.

49. santigold - haha i know this song already and i didnt realize who it was. good shit, and again, refreshingly busy without being stupid. dont dig it as much as her earlier stuff but still, its solid.

48. purity ring - i already knew this one also, but this is doing right exactly what so much of the other smoothy 4adish stuff on the list does totally wrong - you can make things that are audibly pretty and pleasing without sucking all the life out of them. fantastic.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think I played both of those for you last time I was MN?

47. haim dont save me - ugh what does anyone ever see in this band, this is so completely average and inert and at the same time grating and poorly made. is this the 2013 version of fawning over those crappy early taylor swift records? incomprehensible

Also I am about to see Purity Ring with cad ^_^

Re: Haim, I cut harmonizing siblings a lot of slack

I don't know if I'd buy Haim albums but I wouldn't change the station if they came on the radio

i know you played me the purity ring, and probably the santigold although i think i had stumbled across it already. that purity ring track is my school of seven bells aha moment of this year

if haim came on my radio i would slap at the tuner buttons like a scuba diver trying to escape a moray eel

haim is probably not actually the worst thing on the list because jessie ware and starships, but it for some reason the only thing thats making me like actively angry

really wishing this thread had stayed a secret

46. bruno mars - its like a really boring regatta de blanc era police cover band decided to start writing their own songs

Ha that is otm

Bruno will probably never top "Grenade"

hey gr8080 "hide this board on site new answers" your dreams they can come true

i like this thread. it brings back memories of watching MTv with my grandparents in the 90s

I disagree with a lot of what jjjusten's said, but I'm just like "ok pappa joe" and I want to hear more

is that the song that's p obv a police cover 'beat it' badly kinda effort

Worried that I'm agreeing with jjjusten's POV a little too much.

Whatever the case, this thread is worth it for this alone:

"enya got into the liquor cabinet again"

Is there a station or a play list with this music on it?

there's a Spotify playlist: http://open.spotify.com/user/awesomewells/playlist/0MVP8scsWPfbXQ4ji7RoUI

other stuff was cobbled together on Youtube if possible

boy that ILX albums poll, there but for the grace of God...

XD

45. alex anwandter - this is fairly light and enjoyable, appeals to me in the same way that other semi-retrolectro stuff does, but im def not knocked out by it

44. spiritualized - coming to this biased because i have never understood what all the fuss is about, but ill give it a shot - its better than i remember other stuff by them but idk jingle jangle dylan/reedisms not my thing. theres something else there thats more spot on but i cant quite place it right now. it kind of reminds me of a brit-pop Cracker, and thats not good.

Yeah I don't get spiritualized love at all

43. john talabot feat pional - grabbing me straight off, neat build and nice stacking of elements, not crazy about the vocals except when they do the harmony explodo thing which is really nice actually, again this seems like my kind of audio wallpaper or w/e compared to a lot of the other sorta laconic stuff up until now. mainly because it keeps moving a bit more, progressing or whatever instead of comfortably settling in, but without losing focus. yeah i really like this, i am down.

42. nicki minaj stupid hoe - somewhere along the line nicki (who was always pretty fucking halfway to grating, but in a sorta refreshing way in the beginning) just turned up all of her little quirks to a volume where it is like someone SHOUTING AT YOU ALL THE TIME and this is prob the biggest dip into that w/o incorporating her patented and now i will sing for a little while and like a little kid telling you the same plot of a pokemon episode over and over again it seems cute and you feel like you should be nice but its actually really fucking annoying by the tenth time.

tbh I think "Roman's Revenge" and "Stupid Hoe" are the only Nicki songs I really need in my life (honorable mention to "Beez in the Trap" and "Come on a Cone" I guess)

41. neneh cherry and the thing - neneh cherry is never not a badass, and this is no exception, def like the moments of tortured sax more than some of the safer stuff but yeah very cool interplay going on here, the sneaking harshness in between phrases, this unsettling feeling of hearing something pretty but also dark and dirty and weirder than it seems at first, fucking fantastic

i am honestly worried abt listening to this miguel track because i feel like he is sort of a cause celebre on ilx atm and i dont want to get murdered in my sleep.

i havent heard it yet so maybe it will be totally badass? idk. spooky out there

40. miguel - ok its really good. i spend less of my time these days w/rnb than i probably should, but i know enough to hear something solid in pretty much every way, and this does that. great singer with an admirable knowledge of how to use his chops, very smooth but not in a negative sense - pretty much all the parts are set into motion and it does everything right, although theres a dreaminess and lushness to the background that takes away from the center just a little bit.

had a pretty good run here for a while, wondering what will be the next thing to fuck that up entirely

yeah Miguel is the real deal IMO

haha never mind found it

39. cheryl-t - the first bit of this would have been left on the 140+ bpm cutting room floor, and it just gets worse from there. theres a little something cool with the distorto bass synth stuff at the 1:30 mark but then its right back into the filling time while the dj has a smoke break vibe and yeah idgi

38. deathgrips - haha is this a push it breath sample in the beginning oh never mind here goes the song, wait srsly is this a slowed down push it sample? thats kind of awesome, but this is pretty weak sauce from these dudes other than that, i still like it but its nowhere near takyon and oh god i just realized that more than anything this reminds me of chuck mosely from faith no more hahahaha oh no i can never unhear that now

WE CARE A LOT

man if death grips put out WE CARE A LOT 2013 that would kick so much ass

otm

tempted to start one of those u.s. government petitions to force death grips to record an update of we care a lot

This is what I was saying about DG on the other thread. I want them to kind of become the equivalent of FNM or the Beastie Boys where they screw around with other styles just for fun and release a big melting pot party record. But one can dream I guess.

probably going to need this once again

there's a knife now?

jjj, come eviscerate Ace Hood with me

i feel like i need to start at the beginning and go from there.

77. Drunk In Love - whoa this is one meandering ass song. low rent production, beyonce sorta just making shit up as she goes, and although he hasnt showed up jay-z hasnt done anything worth listening to in years. wtf at this surfboard garbage. trying to place the awfulness of the beat, its like a scrap track from a third tier youtube hit. yep, jay-z. mehhhhh. haha did he just say hes ike turner what in the hell is going on here. haha swirly reverbed out vanishing beyonce reintroduced with a distant airhorn this is fucking garbage.

Bookmarked.

I actually like "Drunk In Love" but the rapturous attention it gets is baffling

OTOH Blatantly Sexual Beyonce is my 2nd-favorite Beyonce behind Black Radical Beyonce

i am about to listen to beyonce #2 and it cant be worse so here we go

rrrrrreally interested in your opinion on Partition

76. Partition - much much better, im down with beyonce channeling missy elliot dipped in a light MIA sauce i guess. middle portion that starts with her saying drop the partition fast and some other stuff pretty much loses the plot although not completely at least. at times the production sounds a little like the third wacky remix that would show up on the CD maxi single. sorta falls apart at the end imo. big time diminishing returns here. still better than that first one, because no jay-z and the dude who wrote the beat doesn't sound like he's reading the fruity loops manual for the first time with his other hand while programming.

for me, this is "sneezed on the beat and the beat got sicker" vs "driver roll up the partition please, I don't need you seeing 'Yonce on her knees"

I will also say this; I was lukewarmish on the entire Beyonce album until I watched the videos, at which point it turned into one of my top 5 albums of the year

75. days are gone - haim - i dont want to talk about this. chorus sounds like bananarama. i dont mean that in a good way. WTF WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS. lead singer sounds like she listened to beth ditto but she sounded too scary. jesus man why

im making a pledge to try to listen to the entire song here but fuck that with haim

the really good Haim song IMO is "Let Me Go"; this is another band I enjoy but am not rapturous over (and their songs that are straight-up Fleetwood Mac pastiche are kind of the end of the world)

haha and in advance i really doubt i will listen to 15 FUCKING MINUTES of bardo pond, no offense guys

there's no real reason to listen to the Bardo Pond song but it's kind of hilarious

it's great! like crazy horse with flutes.

^^^ OTM

Crazy Horse with flutes is not hilarious! It's great. Y'all are more shrieky than I expected based on the thread title.

74. rival dealer - burial - hah i have been talking all year to people who dont want to listen to me about the resurgence of industrolectroebm shit in pop music and for that i am sorry but this burial thing is so so on the mark for that that its hard for me to have a straight reaction to it honestly. i mean its def denser than the old stuff which seems to be the real growth stylewise from like idk a;grumh or w/e but its got the brooding thing down while being all whipneck fast and shit. i like it, mostly, speed limit 140+ presents sad harcore. or something. slice of life talky bits are dumb, they should cut that out.

back in the old days, this would also be 3 tracks instead of one long ass one.

i am buying the bardo pond LP based on recently hearing it. also i think the beyonce tracks are all pretty good individually but the album works best as a whole. i don't "get" haim.

im not trying to be shrieky! i just have opinions but i didnt vote and i always feel like a dick steamrolling in and being all "U R ALL STUPID THIS IS GARBAGE" on the main thread so i put this all here. and not that its all garbage. just that haim song.

wtf at this surfboard garbage.

lol. voted for this song almost solely on the basis of the "surfboard garbage".

I don't like Haim either. Shriek all you want, it's your thread! I thought the BP song was pretty accessible based on the original, but apparently I was wrong.

no one said it wasn't accessible! it's just long

I didn't really get into the Bardo Pond covers single that much but the album they put out last year (Peace on Venus) is really really good if you're into that mode of sludgy psych rock. But LOL at people being like "WHAT THIS SONG IS 15 MINUTES LONG?" It's not like it's 1962, songs can be longer than three minutes now, we have the technology.

those results threads are pretty funny for revealing a bit of conservatism about music that isn't super-immediate.

73. the creator has a master plan - bardo pond - i fucking love this, havent heard or thought about them in like idk 15 years? i take back my reluctance for 15 minutes, i am totally in, see you all in a while. trying to place it, its like what all those dudes from kranky and constellation could have done if they werent too busy flattening pennies on train tracks and being a half-assed Crass.

all of ILM is pretty funny for revealing a bit of conservatism about music that isn't Ciara

People can watch every single episode of 2 Broke Girls or whatever but their monocles pop out if a song is 15 minutes long.

haha OTM

fwiw the "hilarious" comment wasn't meant to be a knock on Bardo Pond, I thoroughly enjoyed listening to that song

tbh much of my reaction to 15 minute song was based in "technically i am running a business and am at work" but eh fuck work

all of ILM is pretty funny for revealing a bit of conservatism about music that isn't Ciara

― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Both lol and ;_; about the truth of this statement.

yeah the distant vocals dropping in halfway through this track with swoopy space noises rolling around in the background is working really really well for me. i like this a lot. also, as the dude who listens to NWW on the board, im the last guy that should be whining abt long songs obv

i only like long songs when they are around an hour long and mostly the sound of a ship creaking THATS HOW THEY USED TO MAKE "REAL" MUSIC KIDS

you are making me want to play "Time To Melt"

72. XO - beyonce - haha this is str8 up 80s soundtrack in the intro i keep expecting ally sheedy to suddenly smile through all that mop of hair or something, chorus has the dreaded modern indie background shouters thing but not in a fuck u all lumineers way, i like this more than the other stuff, wish it was a little more driven or something. sounds like a pink song sometimes, but not one of the good pink songs, the boring ones about all being friends and drinking champagne and getting through the tough times and stuff. theres still something here i like somewhat though. idk, none of this beyonce is measuring up to the beyonce i want.

"XO" is pretty great

every time I think Ryan Tedder should be murdered, he pulls out a song like this

100% agree with how the EOY makes ilm seem like a different place. NA otm about BP album too. I wouldn't have loved the Master Plan cover as much but I loooooooove the original and hearing it translated to one of my favorite styles (heavy lumbering dirge with hint of lightness) was a great musical moment for me.

Is it just me or does a scary amount of the stuff nominated and placing sound like 80s soundtracks and mall music?

well, 80s soundtracks were awesome and I heard Santigold and MGMT at a TGIFridays last week so I think what you've generally described is known to most as "music"

I hadn't heard any of the new Beyonce until this weekend when driving around I heard the second half of "XO" twice on the radio, both times coming in at the weird surfboard part. It doesn't seem like a very good song but Jay Z made me laugh and I liked when she got all growly and aggressive near the end.

like the first time I heard Haim, I immediately thought of the music they played in mall stores like Express and Claire's Boutique when I was in junior high in the 80s

the song you're talking about is actually "Drunk On Love", NA

Oh yeah duh.

71. raging lung - the knife - ok first things first if i glanced at this album cover i would expect it to be a halo benders k records thing, which i assume its not but hey. this is an ok knife track, not my favorite, not my least. is it bizarre to say i want it to be consistently weirder? i mean its obv weird, but mostly in the chorus/postchorus, verse is a little comfort zone. i mean to the extent that there is a verse. i am being a harsher critic here because i know this stuff so theres more comparison points. lots of early mid peter gabriel twinkling weirdness and wobbling bassline fun. its good. it would prob grow on me.

that said, this does overstay its welcome a bit i think.

I don't really care that much about the singles poll bc it emphasizes music that I'm not as invested in (pop/dance). I did vote in it but didn't think about it that hard.

Have you not heard that whole album, dude? IT'S REALLY GOOD (esp "A Tooth For An Eye" and "Wrap Your Arms Around Me")

70. when a fire starts to burn - disclosure - ive heard so much stuff in this same wheelhouse that i like so so much better that idk i dont get. wish the fire starts to burn dude would STFU, fine theres a goddamn fire and i am bringing my attitude home already leave me the fuck alone. this is now officially the longest song on the countdown. ok he shuts up in the middle, things are looking up, wait no fuck hes back again. this sucks.

haha can't wait to see what you make of "White Noise"

69. song for zula - phosphorescent - i fucking love early phosphorescent, like listen to it all the time love, and i hate to be this guy, but he seems hell bent on prettying up everything interesting and charming about him and his writing and it SUCKS. its like dude has just become a junior partner in the bonnie prince billy/palace/oldham/swor & gatto law firm and he is just so eager to please. i take this personally and i am mad at u phosphorescent dude.

cram your goddamn string section you dick. quit smoothing out your vocal cracks and reverbing everything out you dick. fuck u.

oh whoops skipped whatever lulu james is one sec.

Oh I accidentally skipped that one too

it's okay?

69. closer - lulu james - part of me likes this, but her voice is losing me, holy shit she should stay out of her upper vocal range omg that was bad. now shes spending more time in there. ick. can she not sing? she can not sing. not up there at least. pro tip, if you honk in your upper register, stay the fuck out of your upper register. wait, more of her range is sucking now. what is going on. aaaaggghhhh nooooo. damnit, this seemed promising for a short like 20 seconds but yeah nope can not get past her voice. oh and also its really really boring.

haha dan listen again, i think u will want to drop the same vocal hammer here

haha thank you for saving me an update post

she sounds like she is a quarter-step off the pitch almost the entire song

i know it is so bizarre

it actually does get worse right? or does it just build to a fever pitch of "oh you poor thing, stop"

for me it was "this is an interesting affectation, it's bringing tension into an otherwise unremarkable song... okay ENOUGH OF THAT"

idk her voice sounds fine to me

i'm a terrible singer though

it's not really her voice, it's that she is consistently slightly off the note, which starts out interesting and then starts making me grind my teeth

67. merry go round - kacey musgraves - haha ok first of all from the intro i keep expecting a muppet to jump in and take a verse. the verses are oddly clever actually, esp for what i can only assume is a mainstream country deal. Her voice is sorta by the numbers album radio, but theres something actually kind of compelling. song writer is really pretty fantastic, manages to toe the line of clever and not too clever, like the round and round and round turn quite a bit. huh. i wish she was just a tad less innocuous, but theres nothing to fault here really. i am impressed, and fairly surprised. i dont think there is anything special here w/o the writer though, so unless she is the writer i am somewhat concerned, wouldn't mind a more compelling vocalist taking a stab at this really.

IIRC she is the writer

basically I feel like she's the artist everyone keeps trying to convince me Taylor Swift is

That's good, maybe she should just be that more

She's quite an accomplished writer for other people too. Interesting to hear her version of Mama's Broken Heart back to back with Miranda Lambert's super-campy one.

66. Fall Back - Factory Floor - basically i just want this to turn into the telex song that it really wants to be, idk man i think i just like this sort of stuff with some weird german dude yammering over the top of it or robot voices and not with a bored sounding lady getting all breathily unenthused all over it. its...fine i guess?

i am honestly really glad to hear that abt musgraves, shes really one hell of a writer

judging from this one song i heard that one time on the internet lol @ me

that's the CW about her so you're playing into an already-established narrative

she and Brandy Clark are kind of the go-to "authentic young country voices" of 2013 afaict

65. she will - savages - time travelling music, appreciate the unburied guitars, and just when i was abt to slog it off as retro masturbatory factory worship, in comes the drum break and moves it to something more than that. theres a lot of badassery going on here actually, motherfuckers know how to build, thats for sure. i dig it, old better pj harvey before she got all pleasant sounding filtered through JD/NO transition stages. im sure this will get pinged with the retro tag but honestly, i dont think thats fair, and also saddled with asshole female band novelty media blitz, but thats a huge misstep, its a really good band, who gives two fucks abt the fact that they happen to all be women (which implies the tokenism that undercuts women as musicians, which is a personal fucking sticking point being stuck in the lunkheaded industry i am in). stands 100% on its own merits, like thousands of other women populated groups that get dragged down by assholes making their gender the prime narrative, while leaving the unsaid bias against women in rock intact.

Not really about Savages, but the 'who gives a fuck if they're women' thing is a double-edged sword. Being in an all-female 6-piece we've had to talk about whether we put it into our blurbs or not, and we've so far decided that we should. Not for men, but for other women, because when you're growing up as a girl into male-dominated shit it's good to find that there are women out there doing what you want to do.

I mean, obviously there are plenty of women out there who won't give a shit either.

because when you're growing up as a girl into male-dominated shit it's good to find that there are women out there doing what you want to do.

definitely. I haven't heard any of the gender-based hype or backlash re Savages. They are pleasant to listen to in that they sound a lot like other music I like a lot, but Savages just makes me want to listen to said other music rather than them.

So far the only song that I voted for is ... "Shabba"

There should be separate ILM polls for the U.S. and the UK.

Not for men, but for other women, because when you're growing up as a girl into male-dominated shit it's good to find that there are women out there doing what you want to do.

this is a really good point btw, and i would have less of a visceral reaction in general if 90% of where i hear it wasn't some jim derogatis type basically yelling "you'll never believe this, but all of the band is ACTUALLY WOMEN" every 4 sentences like its akin to finding a youtube where a chimp builds an endtable or something

Haha, yeah, I totally get that.

like its akin to finding a youtube where a chimp builds an endtable or something

link pls?

more shrieking plz

Ha can someone post the spotify link here, then I can iphone the rest while baby juggling

http://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/6aanFh0UkiNJlrvg3kZgmI

Thkng u

So huh I can only shuffle play from iphone. That's dumb

Damn u technology that does almost everything for me I want more

that is not true*; expand the cover art of the currently-playing song and uncheck the shuffle function

* this may only work for premium/unlimited Spotify

I am low rent spotify, so nope.

Well then, I'll do them in random order, because the overall list is somewhere in the middle of 4000 posts or whatever in that thread.

The Wire - Haim - way less horrible than the other haim song, and actually fairly ok to listen to. Thankfully less bananarama this time (meaning better singing). Slightly confused as to why we need a saxophoneless Quarterflash in the 2013, but yeah, I don't mind this at all.

Also as a plus, listening to Burial a second time and much more into it this time around.

Betty who - somebody loves you - what the hell is wrong with you people

Ok I should expand. This is the sort of shit that made me pissed when it would stink up Americas top 40 when I was an early teen. Lifeless anthemic dumb shit about nothing backed with paid intern synth lines, "wacky" retro multi tap reverb vocals. Plenty of stuff that I haven't liked at all, but this is the first one to make me actively mad at you guys.

I mean phosphorescent made me mad too, but mostly at him

I like the idea of your sitting there growling.

take it to the gay thread

― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:18 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Got the baby on my lap right now, so I have to internalize the growling, but trust me it's there

Type of way - rich homie quan - ok first I have to start by shaking the initial chuck mosely totally unfounded reaction I am having here, so I paused it for a second. Something in the way he bends his voice on certain vowels maybe? Death grips guy having a better day drunk on White Russians and high on ludes? Ok. Don't hate it, don't like it, difficult to care about it at all really. This is a looooooong 4 minutes Jesus.

Haha it just keeps not ending

I do not get this Amel Larrieux song at all

Closer - tegan and Sara - ok first let's start with the fact that people still caring about tegan and Sara strikes me the same way that a song by Lou Bega placing would, but hey that's just me. Weren't these the nasal harmony are they or aren't they deal from like 10 years ago? Canadian? Jesus man so much mall fodder muck showing up here, but this is similarly egregious to me. If this is the direction of pop you fuckers can have it. This is all because I'm old isn't it, def getting a "you fuckers don't understand I LIVED THROUGH IT THE FIRST TIME" vibe from lots of this list.

Hold on we're going home - drake - are u fucking kidding me

True confession, I didn't even listen to the drake song. I'm sorry. That's unfair. But it's drake, so I'm sure that it's dull as shit and tepidly slow and yawn worthy, unless it's one of the ones where he does the "surprise everybody look out for fast drake!" In which case it's faster and still sucks, possibly more.

Ain't it fun - Paramore - ok Jesus, sarahell otm upthread, either I am hitting a bad shuffle streak or this backwards leaning pop thing is out of control. Here is this song, but done better in every way, you are welcome.

http://youtu.be/P0FKzPfsxA4

I know I am not supposed to "care" about lyrics in the modern day but Jesus this don't go crying to your mama living in the real world shit is so fucking embarrassing for a grown person to put on paper fuck man

I don't even know where any of these placed, why do I feel that might make it worse

ha

Paramore, I permanently revoke your fake gospel choir privileges.

jjjusten how dare you speak for women in the language of "Every Little Step"

I sort of like tegan and sara post-"career advice sesh with will.i.am" or whatever happened to them but didnt vote for them.

So good to me - Chris malinchak - I appreciate when an album/single cover gives me a heads up on what to expect, so thanks for that I guess. Bland, but would be fine if it was hanging/playing in a hotel lobby in the background. The minute this stops playing I will remember exactly nothing about it.

Honestly this whole list is basically just shit.

I'm trying to stay positive but yeah maybe I should take a break for a bit honestly

jjjusten, did you hear fka twigs?

No, did they make the list?

no ilm made the list

it was a collaborative effort

ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2013

No bookmark, on zing, no chance of loading last 50 messages for next hour and a half

I blame myself - sky ferraria - idk man just pick one of my last ten reviews and insert her name

This fka twigs is really really good as an aside

Strandbar - Todd terje- is there any reason for me not to just like listen to actual samba instead? To be fair, this is not my sort of stuff wrt electrowhatever, but it's def the best thing that's showed up in the rundown shuffle today. Improves as it goes along, actually actively enjoying it now that it's hit the 4 minute mark. Yeah, this is ok

Better than ok actually, and my baby enjoys it when I make his lion puppet dance to it, so 2 thumbs up

Keep returning to the fka twigs thing though. Huh I need more of this

yeah that fka twigs song is crazy good

yeah that was the song I went "wait where was I all year that I missed this" for

Shabba - a$ap ferg - good lord finally something that hits and hits well. I like pretty much everything about this.

I feel like is such a fine line between doing this well and doing it poorly, and most stuff falls on the other side. Are there problematic lyrical points well god yes, but hey I listen to eazy so I can hardly point fongers

Ueneo - rocko - and then on the other hand. It's like a bunch of dudes listened to biggies slow rolling delivery and thought "oh hey I can take that all the way to super boring" and are all trying to out bland each other and yeah so I hate this. Oh look rick Ross what a goddamn surprise.

yep. it makes no sense to me that people rate it.

We can't stop - Miley Cyrus - pretty sure this would qualify for worst chorus of the year but then again Katy perry probably released something. This song is such a torpid shitbag. Far more horrible than any of the controversial stuff she did this year (ok maybe not worse that that mtv performance but still this lasts FOREVER)

one of my biggest shocks of 2013 was desultorily playing the A$AP Ferg album with the full expectation of hating it and liking it so much that I went out and bought it that day

Echelon - angel haze - it's like someone took nicki minaj to a reeducation camp and taught her how not to suck. That's not even fair, because this has it's own thing going on but idk in some ways it reminds me of when minaj was a breath of fresh air, without all the trappings of awfulness, or hearing 212 for the first time. Whoa and just when I was going to say that it lacks a bit of the adventurousness, in comes the angel chorus and goddamn I am going to listen the shit out of this in the coming weeks. Redemption point for ILM!

pro-tip: skip the Angel Haze album, go back to her mixtapes, esp. Reservation

Yeah so far the standouts are the a$ap ferg, angel haze, bardo pond and uh kacey musgrave ? Wrt stuff I hadn't heard before.

Duly noted xpost

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nb can't throw stones because "Get Lucky" was my #1

Bipp - Sophie - ok this string of stuff is giving my pessimism a much needed break. This is fucking super cool. I mean there's obv roots in old school here but this is how you make that work. Vocal just on the right side of chirpy w/o ruining everything, great weirdo vibe. Yeah, another winner here.

Disclosure track slightly less annoying on second shuffle listen, but I still wish they had realized that 4 repeats of the fire line would have been enough with maybe a few partial recalls not the whole damn song.

the entire Disclosure album is comfort food; every song basically makes its point in about 2 minutes and then repeats itself, whether that's good or bad is entirely dependent on how much you liked those first 2 min

(ftr I really, REALLY liked it)

Looks like get lucky took number one so lemme just go ahead and say how much I hate that song and forever have since the first moment and also fuck that album forever.

NA super otm.

Ya hey - vampire weekend - putting a weird noise in your chorus does not save you from meandering into being a bland boring indie band, it just makes you a bland boring indie band with a weird noise dropped thoughtlessly in your chorus. I wasn't a hater or a lover out of the gate w/this band like lots were (that me and your sister or whatever song was ok) but woof, I am so done w/ these people at this point judging from this song.

I really hate the new Vampire Weekend album, and I really liked the first two

On the production side I want to hunt down their vocal reverb guy and kill him

I like Vampy Weekend

Gave the album another go this morning and it's largely horrible apart from Step and Hanna Hunt. Loved the first two records.

Most of this stuff I'm just like "I'm sure this is great but it's just not my thing" but I listened to the Paramore songs because I thought they were a "rock band" and they are so awful.

Ugh I feel like I'm being so negative on this thread, sorry. I don't know why these polls bring out the worst in me. And I knew ahead of time the tracks poll would be weighted toward stuff I don't like/care about and it still made me angry.

This is the thread for being negative without starting a big fight, though, right?

I agree on Paramore - I was led to believe that they'd added pop to their rock, not just taken away the rock completely. Very disappointing.

whoever called them nu-Roxette on the poll thread was so, so OTM

the reactions from some people on the thread are hilarious, like anytime something that isn't pop enough shows up it's like a DJ dropped a bad song into their rave.

The lyrics for "Still Into You" are too obvious and the music does nothing for me. I can see how it would have broad appeal but I prefer my romance several steps removed from "I remember meeting your mom" and I like my rock music to rock a little more.
Oh well. Not my thing.

Paramore reminds me of No Doubt.

Paramore reminds me of No Doubt.

― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:15 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i said this on the poll thread! no doubt probably still had better songs tho.

Paramore reminds me of No Doubt.

― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:15 PM (30 minutes ago)

Oh there we go! That is the missing link.

there was a run of 3 songs earlier today where the vocals sounded almost exactly the same all by 3 different acts. I like the backing music on Sky Ferreira tracks better than most of the other stuff of her ilk, but whoever compared her to Suicide is just .... talk about serious disappointment of the Analympics/Animalympics variety

hahaha yeah that threw me off

i might start a poll thread for "most Rong statement" from the trax poll thread

nominees include:
Sky Ferreira - Suicide comparison
dog latin's Hot Fruit - Ascension comment
j0rdy's insight about swastikas

pls add
Paramore = poignant love song

i guess that's not as rong as the others

hot fruit/coltrane definitely brought the most lols for me

maybe it is poignant to the 15 yr old girls I saw at Target the other day who looked like they listen to Paramore

dog latin's Hot Fruit - Ascension comment

Haha, yeah, I loved this. A champion move.

probably "pompous drumming" should also go on the list

yeah, it's definitely poignant to someone, just not me and i am not fit to be an arbiter of poignance on this planet or any other.

which song featured pompous drumming?

lol deafheaven i think, where the drumming is pretty workmanlike and dull for the genre

really not feeling many of the songs on the tracks-list. making me feel old and unhip, i guess.

and deafheaven gives me a headache, so i know i'm old.

definitely made me feel my age -- mainly because of how retro a lot of things were.

unhip - nah dude, you voted for Vatican Shadow

any vatican shadow or prurient tracks make the list

whoa synchronicity xp

no (xp)

I mean, i posted that before reading any posts ittxp

maybe the album will make it, it rules.

no chance.

i also don't get the over-the-top love for one artist in particular. i mean, i like her, too, but not

I WOKE UP THIS WAY
I WOKE UP THIS WAY

levels of love.

I am totally singing "I woke up this way" next time that song comes on

that isn't the lyric, is it? dammit. i like this album, i swear.

"baby I was born like this"

something something SURFBOARD SURFBOARD

I am not going to lie, it is incredibly thrilling and life-affirming to me to hear one of the biggest pop stars of our time singing "I'm so brown/Bow down bitches"; it's basically the early/mid 90s all over again

what about that line resonated with you? not being snarky at all; genuinely curious.

The past... 2+? years have seen online conversations about feminism dominated by white people who seem hell-bent on making people of color outcasts/invisible, discounting their opinions, attempting to silence their concerns and generally make people of color "know their place", which is subservient to prominent white, oftentimes male feminists. There was an entire blowup around Hugo Schwyzer, for example, where he basically wormed his way into feminist circles in order to take advantage of women and, whenever called on it, would deflect criticism/focus to a person of color and attack them for not being good allies, and many white women ate it up until a pretty spectacular implosion where all of his awfulness and manipulations were laid bare, leaving the women who complicitly allowed or actively encouraged him in his behavior high and dry. There was also the situation with Tim Wise blowing up on Facebook about how sick he was of people of color not being more grateful to him for being a white man making a living off of championing their cause by taking up as many speaking engagements about the problems/issues facing people of color as he could.

Watching all of these situations, and watching people criticize Beyonce for singing about how much she enjoys her marriage, and having Beyonce come back fists swinging with that song is a gigantic, cathartic release; a massive "fuck you" by proxy to the machinery of this country which lynched my great-grandfather for the crime of not giving up his bus seat to a white man. That is why that song/line resonates with me.

or to put it more simply, if you're rolling your eyes at that line or the statement Beyonce is making with her album, remember that slavery was not actually illegal until 1943 and then shut the fuck up

i'm not rolling my eyes at that line.

(or the statement beyonce is making with the album. i hadn't gotten that statement from the album, but that's not to say it isn't there).

that wasn't a "you" you (although I appreciate that it sounded that way)

understood.

holy fuck why wasn't I posting here instead. consider yourselves spared I guess but I p much agree with jjj on 100% of these songs

well, we're still waiting for him to get to hot fruit

I'd rather hear Hot Fruit than another dull UK diva

And yes, I agree that there was a distinct lack of decent rock tracks or anything with some kind of heaviness or edge to it. I don't think that's really ILMs fault because there simply wasn't a ton of stuff like that that I was drawn to this year.

The weird thing is that this was a really good year for me and music but now I'm feeling pretty blah

Betty who - somebody loves you - what the hell is wrong with you people

― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ok I should expand. This is the sort of shit that made me pissed when it would stink up Americas top 40 when I was an early teen. Lifeless anthemic dumb shit about nothing backed with paid intern synth lines, "wacky" retro multi tap reverb vocals. Plenty of stuff that I haven't liked at all, but this is the first one to make me actively mad at you guys.

― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw jjj this was imo the worst thing out of many very bad things on the entire list & completely just completely unbelievably boggle-eyedly terrible in every conceivable way

love betty who, but mostly for 'you're in love' (which only received the one vote from me.) 'somebody loves you' isn't as good but it had that viral video so there it was.

Betty Who is supposed to be a joke or parody or something, non?

I do like that Bunji Garlin thing although its catchiness is starting to do me 'ead in.

I was thrilled Garlin made the top 10.

Also really pleased that, despite submitting a fairly wide-ranging international ballot (the only British or American performer in my top 20 was Britney) that most of the songs i voted for had other voters. It's great to see multiple votes for Temi Dollface (8), Stromae (5), Nyusha (3), Ivan Dorn, Lady Saw, etc, etc.

ShariVari, some of your picks and recommendations were excellent. I also really liked Bachanal.

Yay!

That Lady Saw track, 'Bun Fi Bun' is one of the most fiercest things I've ever heard in dancehall.

The best part of the whole tracks poll was lex praising a Paramore song's "chunky riff."

rad djp posts

The best part of the whole tracks poll was lex praising a Paramore song's "chunky riff."

― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, January 24, 2014 12:46 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this slayed me

lol

I'm still back on j0rd humblebragging about not being able to get offended by swastikas tbh

yeah. hoping that "swastikas don't bother me" doesn't become the hip-trend of 2014.

http://www.united-academics.org/journal/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/siouxie-swastica.jpg

http://www.united-academics.org/journal/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/siouxie-swastica.jpg

yeah yeah.

i'm aware of it. still hope it isn't a hip new trend.

fwiw that pic kept me from actually exploring Siouxsie and the Banshees back catalog until around 2003 and I still kind of hate her for it

totally.

xp - pretty sure she apologized for it at one point

I've been looking for the post-2000 interview I read where basically called every black person in LA a thugged-out ape but I can't find it; I may be misremembering the strength of the statement but there were definitely bad vibes

siouxsie in 2005:

Siouxsie is surprisingly frank, if unrepentant.

"The culture around then," she explains, "it was Monty Python, Basil Fawlty, Freddie Starr, The Producers- 'Springtime For Hitler'." She kicks out her leg in a mock goosestep. "It was very much Salon Kitty. It was used as a glamour thing. And you know what?" she sighs." I have to be honest but I do like the Nazi uniform. I shouldn't say it but I think it's a very good-looking uniform."

You shouldn't say it for fear of upsetting the PC mob?

"Yeah. It's almost like you feel like saying,'Aw, come on. Nazis - they're brilliant.' Political correctness becomes imprisoning. It's very - what's the word? It's being very Nazi! It's ironic but this PC-ness is so fucking fascist. In America they're especially touchy about Nazis and it's so Nazi! You go to LA and it's so segregated. It's very Nazi and the irony is they don't get it. They don't realise how Nazi they are about taking offence to mentioning the word Nazi."

I feel like there was a specific story she was telling about an unpleasant interaction with someone but I could very well be conflating some things.

At any rate, I tend to be very wary of white people who say things like that 2005 quote because they almost invariably think that someday, when they get to know me well enough, I'll be okay with them calling me a nigger.

It's the whole conflation of PC with actual oppression. "You're oppressing me by frowning on my racism!"

I'm mad I didn't know about this thread. Much more my thing than the actual rollout.

Thanks for the heads-up last night, john.

so... Melt-Banana is kind of awesome, huh

yup!

they are! I'm a big fan of cell-scape

DJP - you just warmed my heart with your mention of "hocket"

oh yeah I meant to look that up

haha thanks!

HOCKETY POCKETY WOCKETY WACK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bd5YUEOwlE

for those wondering, here is an example of hocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enbHYaF8Vas

There's also a terrible video of Dirty Projectors doing something similar only much worse

hocketing and Meredith Monk = back to my comfort zone

revive

listening to grails at bedtime. grails are a good band, I think.

KISS sucks

I'm listening to King Diamond "Conspiracy", hoping to play the s/t Bathory again.

just finished Napalm Death - Scum

still listening to the Azana album
been spending the past two days listening to the Final Fantasy Tactics soundtrack.