The best of Marc Loi : Facebook Feminist

W--y--yeah--n--no--uh

-- genital hyphys (carlos....), September 5th, 2006.

ROFL

step off deez niggy nuts

yours in christ,
adrian

I made the comment that she wasn't like other female college students, who would either finish college and get married or enter into fields that are traditionally female.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/SomepartofmestillfeelsasthoughIamso.jpg

discus

cf. Baise-Moi

don't forget to ban me here too, faggots.

Game over, you lose.
by Marc Loi

You were the one for me.
You were my destiny.
I loved you more than life itself.
I prioritized you over everyone else.
It's too bad you never understood
I loved you as much as I could.
I talked about you night and day.
Too bad all those feelings have gone away.
All I wanted was to feel your warm embrace
And gaze at your pretty face.
I waited for you on my hands and knees.
Now that I am gone- you will see?
Though I wanted to be with you at any cost,
Our game of love just ended... and you've lost.

http://www.tcultra.com/images/wow_logo.gif

when writing love poem always work in the word "prioritized"

this thread is still amazing

i often think of linking ppl i know 'irl' to it but remember that i dont want them estalking me

when writing love poem always work in the word "prioritized"

AMIRITE

maybe if mr. loi had been more of a macho jerk she would have fucked him

maybe if mr. loi's poetry didn't suck shit, she would have found him less pathetic.

i often think of linking ppl i know 'irl' to it but remember that i dont want them estalking me

I've posted the screengrabs on those redneck football boards i go to. Lotsa laughs.

i mean really, this is the poem he should have given her. kid knows his shit:

BUG POEM
by Cedar David Van Tassel (a four year old)

Buggy buggies
Come to me
For I'll find a home for you.

It will not be cold
It will not be hot
It will be moist.

It will be not too hot
and not too cold.
For I will be nice to bugs.

We don't mind bugs here.
There's no vegetables we don't grow.
We already have food to sell.

We cannot be angry for bugs.

Good bye bugs.
I'll see you later.

IT WILL NOT BE COLD
IT WILL NOT BE HOT
IT WILL BE MOIST

speaking of football player photos

SPRING BREAAKK...

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v19/113/48/4304372/n4304372_30162413_830.jpg

Those Manning boys are something else.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5i20154

Over a cup of coffee last night, I spoke with a friend who will soon as graduate school as a chemist and eventually pursuit her doctorate.

I made the comment that she wasn't like other female college students, who would either finish college and get married or enter into fields that are traditionally female.

-- Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, October 2, 2006 1:50 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Link

dear tombot:

i will sing this ned-style over one of yr beats fyi

acronym humour

xpost

"If it weren't inappropriate, I'd get you and every woman here Plan B for Christmas".

Still makes my head hurt.

I miss Marc Loi, is he still on facebook?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/bythewaythatwasntmehittingonyouoran.jpg

hahaahahaa

megaroffles

"those guys"

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9612/27/gay.tv/seinfeld.lrg.jpg

I had a moment of intense cognitive dissonance when I saw Marc use the phrase "get less play"

more like Marc Ploy amirite

he calls his professor "ma'am"??????

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1763903/2/istockphoto_1763903_your_box_ma_am.jpg

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i14128

Bush intended to go on with the tribute to President Ford, but was cut short when a frantic Snow entered the studio, turned off the microphone and pulled him out.

The damage, however, had already been made.

In a related story, the White House announced today it will adopt Britney Spears' rendition of "Oops, I Did It Again," to chronicle the blunders of the Bush saga.

"We'll have a team of Secret Service agents who'll follow him," Snow said. "Every time he makes a mistake, they'll start singing 'Oops, I Did It Again.'"

The Bush staff, it is reported, is getting extremely tired of the song.

loird custos

it's a SPOOF!!!!!!

lol george bush

http://www.thespoof.com/images/logo-red.gif
Kayla, look! I've stopped!

Was Marc Loi the model for the globe?

http://www.sokutsu.com/IMG/jpg/krillin.jpg
Jon, he was clearly the model for DragonballZ Krillin.

Kidding...just the Pez dispenser.
http://www.snowcrest.net/tina/dragonball-z.JPG

hey is that a dude from new jersey next to him?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/marcstorch.jpg

"there IS feminist porn, you know"

hey is that a dude from new jersey next to him?

yea i saw that guy on the path :[

I am so in deep shit if Marc Loi ever finds this thread

http://www.dragonball-fury.net/images/persos_krillin.gif
I HAS FEM PORN

considering this thread is on the first page of google searches for marc loi, i would say it's only a matter of time

a deep, refreshing source of amusement

-- spectre (gear), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:19 (8 months ago) Link

"It's high time we put a stop to marijuana use in the NFL," the source said. "The NFL does not put up with drug use. We may put up with wife beaters like Randy McMichael, homophobes and anti-Semites like Jeremy Shockey and crybabies like Eli Manning, but never drug users. No, sir!"

how well do u know him?

lol jeremy shockey uses bad words @ ppl

(I don't actually know him)

I've posted the screengrabs on those redneck football boards i go to. Lotsa laughs.

-- Pleasant Plains, Friday, 6 July 2007 03:16 (3 months ago) Link

link plz

screengrab please

can someone find the "ILX, that's all you do is you sit on your ass discussing" .jpg?

For the second time in two days, I'm about to hop on my facebook and check this momma fricker out a bit more.

I'm betting odds of finding concrete evidence this momma fricker loves cock is pretty damn good.

It's really not worth linking to.

wtf

They clearly do not understand the subtle nuances of Marc Loi's creepiness.

They are probably people who approach women in upfront creepy ways, Marc Loi is doing so in very back-alley creepy ways.

http://a936.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_7147c9e02956c28fa42f8782a00d6d3f.jpg

wau

omg

Music FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE! I needn't say more.

: D

!!!!!

long schlong, yet important

tiny balls

http://www.campusprogress.org/page/community/blog/ODUMarc

The fact of the matter is that there are more important things to worry about in one’s lifelong accomplishment than sex and “virginity.” We see movies like “The 40-Year-Old Virgin,” but we don’t see movies like, “The 40-Year-Old Bum Who Hasn’t Done a Damned Thing to Make the World Better.”

Uh, one of the comments on that blog is a link to this thread.

ruh roh

ENDGAME IS NOW

AND SO IT BEGINS

hang on

i was alive and i waited, waited
i was alive and i waited
for this

did you just delist the thread for a minute? I posted and it went to thread limbo

OH SHIT ITS STARTED

lol matt

there is no other place i want to be

That comment is from October 14th. :/

yea i saw that and undeleted

still 6th hit on google lol -- he must have seen it by now.

maybe he is creme1

Maybe he sees the thread as a tribute to his awesomeness.

We have to be allies. You're already doing more than most guys in college do; a useful role of a male student in a feminism/women's studies class is to help the class explore male culture from a first-hand perspective. You'll be able to provide insight when talking about, in broad brushstrokes, how a guy's mind works; you can also offer a peek into the social world between guys that most women never get a chance to experience.

You also serve as an example to some of the more closed-minded students that not all men are evil misogynistic assholes.

Just make sure you don't dominate conversation in class; as a feminist activist you need to make sure women are getting equal speaking time (and equal consideration!) in organizational settings. Though perhaps the most productive thing you can do is be a feminist around your guy friends. Get them to stop using "like a girl" or "fag" as generic insults, at least when they're around you. Get some of your declared non-feminist guy friends to go to feminist events, etc.

could be tuomas i guess.

I hope he doesn't think this thread is anti-feminist.

From the redneck football board:

1) Most faggot thing I've ever read
2) Suxxor
3) Feminism implies he respects women. His alleged thoughts/actions imply that he doesn't think women can take care of themselves. That's hardly respectful.
4) Most faggot think I've ever read

5) Bottom line: you dead and surgeon receive extra credit

i don't remember posting this thread on whatever blog, but i might have been drunk and it sort of feels like my handiwork.

I may have but I forget

"most faggot think ive ever read" is going to be the name of my next album

I saw someone in Union Square dressed as a Facebook page for Halloween

I wanted to kick him in the dick

Timely

I have; in fact, the site has been the talk of my classroom for a while. We all find it pretty amusing.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: emily
Date: Dec 2, 2007 9:44 PM

You've seen it before? Cause the site is down right now.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: America's Next Bill Clinton
Date: Dec 1, 2007 1:23 PM

Of course. I am always talked about ...I am controversial like that.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: emily
Date: Nov 28, 2007 2:00 PM

Are you the Marc Loi that they are talking about on this thread?

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/man_finally_put_in_charge_of

omg Marc Loi hi!

Marc, I am so sorry.

Oh, Curtis, you are not really!!!

Man. Norfolk.

Never responded to RFI about these in-class ILX talks.

:(:(

i still don't "get" this thread

The guy is a fountain of bizarre wisdom, I don't know how you couldn't love it.

I had an explanation of the view and contradictions typed out but I think explaining it would kill the humor

in-class ILX talks.

lol!

From: America's Next Bill Clinton

terrifying

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/thatthingloidoes.jpg

haw!

:-)

"perhaps"

c'mon marc, show the same forthrightness that you bring to your facebook feminist manifestos when reviewing films.

It lacks intellect! = It ain't even worth it!

http://profeministmale.wordpress.com/category/vagina/

rofl

“ARE YOU A FEMINIST?”
March 18, 2008, 3:01 pm
Filed under: 2nd-wave feminism, 3rd wave feminism, Feminism, The F Word, This Is What a Feminist Looks Like,

http://profeministmale.wordpress.com/category/barrack-obama/
http://profeministmale.wordpress.com/category/barrak-obama/
http://profeministmale.wordpress.com/category/hilliary-clinton/

I could crawl in a hole - I could be taking the easy life at school, I could have a damn easy school schedule, and I could just turn a blind eye, but I don’t. Why? Because I care about America and believe with the right education, I have what it takes to change America. I am busting my ass to build a political future, and when I do run for office, I’ll be damned if anyone questions my “motive.”

Marc Loi 2012

As many of you know, I’ve been feverishly working on a “gray rape” project for class this semester, and the more research I do, the more I get disappointed with human beings.

TELL 'EM BROTHER

LOL@ his blog entry on realdolls.

When I first read the facebook comments by this guy, upthread, I didn't think it was a real guy, I thought it was some noise dude who'd made him up for trolling/lulz.

On the surface, he seems well-meaning but in a complete OTT way, but I think he's a complete fucking prat! I hate people who's steez is to TELL YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT SHIT. Odds on if the guy ever does get political power he'll be like Hitler or something.

Loi-Delong 2012

the list of topics is unbelievable

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i26908

I love you al!

Marc

Feminist dilemma and MAXIM-like magazines.
January 11, 2008, 2:34 pm
Filed under: Feminism, feminist, journalism, men's magazine, objectification, rape, third-wave feminism
I have a dilemma about feminism and the job I just got last night – and sleeping on it didn’t help any.

First of all – let’s get the first thing out of the way: I am the shit. I get out of the military in three months, and people have been scaring me left and right, telling me there are no job opportunities.

Last night, I went to a job interview with a magazine (name withheld) and about an hour into it (it was mostly of me asking THEM questions and talking about my visions), the interviewer and I went outside for a smoke break and the next thing I knew I was sitting in their editorial meetings. The job is now mine.

It pays well, and I can sustain myself, but here lies the problem: it’s a men’s magazine. Imagine it to be sort of like MAXIM or one of the other men’s magazines.

The whole staff is consisted of men, with the exception of one women; looking at their planning/dummy sheets, I became concerned because the content seems a bit objectifying of women’s bodies. That, coupled with the fact that there are articles that seem a bit patriarchal, I kind of cringed.

The lone woman on the staff, sensing my discomfort, told me that it’s okay for me to work such a job being a feminist (she found out I am a women’s studies major through introductions) and at the same time work for a men’s magazine, just as she does …

But I am still uncomfortable with the idea of making money off women’s bodies – no matter how willing these women are willing to pose for this magazine. Wouldn’t I be contributing to the objectification of women by doing this? Does it go hand-on-hand with my feminist values?

But the person who hired me has given me free range to do whatever I want – he said he isn’t attached to the content, but rather, the money made from the magazine. This gives me an opportunity to bring in feminist thoughts and philosophies to the magazine. For this month, I am doing a few article, one focusing on STDs and safer sex practices. The other on the dilemma of it being two in the morning, and the girl is drunk – but you and her have been talking, and you want to take her home, and whether it’d be the right thing to do. There are more articles I am working on, but the fact is I can sneak my feminist views into these articles.

Because of that, I feel I am justified with this job. But I am still not happy with it.

I know I am the shit and I can walk into any newspaper or magazine, just throw down my resume, talk for a few minutes, and get a job …and I don’t NEED this job, but I feel as though I can contribute to turning this magazine into a better one instead of one like MAXIM, which is clearly misogynistic.

Thoughts?

lololololololololololol

when did dude sign up for active duty?

apparently 2003 or so

First of all – let’s get the first thing out of the way: I am the shit.

Filed under: Feminism, beauty, bitch, chivalry, college women, double standards, feminists, image of women, male privilege, men, misogyny, objectification of women, porn industry

I’ve come to the conclusion that no matter if I had fuller breasts and long, golden hair that ran out my head, I wouldn’t make a very nice woman.

It doesn’t matter if you give me a uterus, or different sets of chromosomes, or even if you made me smell nicer, or stay cleaner, I wouldn’t make a nice woman.

Hell, give me my own vagina, with its own well-built system of reproduction and centers of pleasure, and I’d still wouldn’t make a very nice woman.

I know this because I know that by the time I am 12 or 13, I will hate men.

I wouldn’t hate them for their biology; I’d hate them for their ways to looking at me.

I’d hate them for their leery eyes and roaming hands - and the way they refer to me, not by my name, but as “hottie,” “sexy,” “babe,” or a myriad of other nicknames used to objectify me.

I would hate them for blaming my anger and attitude on my being “on the rag,” when in fact it is their ways of treating me that makes me angry.

I would hate that they holler at me as I walk down the street. What, should I come over there, drop my pants and jump their bone?

I would hate that if I bring up anything that makes me upset about them, I am being a whiny bitch.

I would hate them for treating me like a princess, but instantly call me a bitch if I were to turn down their sexual advances.

I would hate them for looking at me at a vehicle for their pleasure, and not as my own complete person.

Even in their compliments, I’d hate them for pre-supposing that just because I am a smart girl, that I am unique.

I’d most definitely have trouble trusting them - for I would never knew if one was genuine, or came from a long line of those trying to get in my pants

I would hate them for not knowing what the word “no” means. It doesn’t mean continuing to pursuit me. It doesn’t mean I am playing coy. It means you’re probably a dumbass and I am not interested in you.

I would hate them for roaming at bars, even when I am talking to my friends, trying to break in to our conversations. Leave me alone! I am here with friends!

I would hate the drinks they offer as a way to “break the ice,” as if somehow I am a prostitute and they are buying my time with drinks

I hate them because they control the media and images of me are distorted to be the way THEY see it

I would hate them because images of my body are spread everywhere - some of which are mutilated, as a way to promote their products

I would hate the porn industry. I would hate the pressure they put on me to act “accordingly.”

I would hate that I cannot be myself, but have to compare myself to unrealistic standards.

I would hate the make-up, the shoes and everything else that I need for a job interview just to be successful.

I would hate that I must always be perfect, but perfection is not good enough. I am encouraged to diet more, look better, lose more weight.

I would hate that I am robbed of all that is me - that I am made out to be what the patriarchy wants me to be. I would hate not being my own person.

But, thankfully, I am not a woman. I am a man, full of privileges and free to live my life as I see fit. I am still raging mad.

I am mad that my friends, sisters, loved ones, potential lovers and future daughters are subjected to shit they’d never think of doing to a man.

I am piss-hot the people I love are viewed as objects and not people.

I am upset that most people don’t empathize with the people I love.

But thankfully, I am a man. If a were a woman, I wouldn’t make a very nice one. By 14, I think I’d be in jail for murder.

I am piss-hot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYpaVQBzSU8

give me my own vagina, with its own well-built system of reproduction and centers of pleasure,

I’ll save the discussion of why porn is rape for when I get back from vacation. In fact, I’ve been visiting a lot of porn stores to research the issue of women and the image thereof in porn, examining the intersectionality between sex, gender, power, economic status, race and class - and what it has to do with porn (don’t forget age, too). But for now, here’s a picture I took a few days ago of a porn DVD cover. The sticker was bought at a feminist conference. What I’ll do is, from now on, I’ll go ahead and bring the stickers everywhere I go. If you want some, let me know. I hope everyone is doing well. I also have quite an interesting story on how I had to give my mom a speech on why when I get married, we (although I don’t know who will be my wife yet) are not going to involve diamonds. Because diamonds are also oppressive and not romantic.

^^filed under "diamonds"

I like sex, I like beers, I like violence, I like football, and I still speak out on behalf of human and women’s rights.

who's al!

Why is it okay for me to be at a bar, with some girl on my lap and slobbering all over me, but it’s not okay for two men to be intimate in a bathroom stall or anywhere else?

I’ve been visiting a lot of porn stores to research the issue of women and the image thereof in porn

that's one way to put it!!!

whoa hold up dude is in the military??? i saw his header pic is in desert camo but wau

yeah now I look at the top pics it would appear he is in his nu-bduz

So apparently a woman can be as power as ever

MICHAEL VICK, RACE AND CLASS
August 21, 2007, 1:40 pm
Filed under: Africa-American males

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22spc.+marc+loi%22

It just gets weirder doesn't it.

in all likelihood marc loi and I may have both been stationed at fort meade at the same time

for completely different reasons and on totally different parts of the base but nonetheless

he may have partied in the same student barracks that my father did in the 1970s.

i eagerly await the day he finds ilx so he and tuomas can bro down

The day he finds ilx, he's probably going to thoroughly kick all our asses. Except for Tom's.

he's read this thread before, I thought we covered that somewhere?

I remember someone linking to this thread in one of his blogs, but I must have missed the bit about him actually reading it.

The day he finds ilx, he's probably going to thoroughly kick all our asses.

He is the shit, after all.

Piss hot, too.

It was here: The best of Marc Loi : Facebook Feminist

"I am always talked about....I am controversial like that"

This Loi guy is basically just a sockpuppet of P.E.Wagemann, right?

this is my favorite thread on all of ilx

i seriously expect this guy to end up on like jimmy kimmel or something in a year or two

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HB6YY1C5L._SL110_.jpg
1 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll throw up., October 16, 2003
At first view, this movie should be looked at as one of the greatest romantic movies of all times. But then it's not.
The movie is about a man who was murdered, then returns as a ghost because he still loved his girlfriend and wanted to catch his killer. If you could ignore the fact that there is no ghost, then perhaps you'll get over the first hurdles of this movie. But if you're one does not believe that there is such a thing as a ghost, then the movie is simply nothing but mindless entertainment.
The director of this movie, it seems, was confused as to whether this movie should be a comedy, a romance or a drama type movie. Because of that, all the elements were incorporated together and that ruined the movie. The humor in the movie was dry, the romance cheesy and the dramatic elements were anything but. As one person wrote, by the middle of the movie, we already knew what would happen next and who the murderer was.
This movie also lacks one other element -- logic. For any logical person who could think critically, this movie should be very painful to watch. Nothing they do in the movie makes any sense.
For those who are thinking about watching this movie as a movie date -- please don't bother. It's a waste of money, fake tears and if you end up liking the movie, your date *if your date is at all smart*, will laugh at you for being superstitious, sophomoric and stupid.

If you could ignore the fact that there is no ghost, then perhaps you'll get over the first hurdles of this movie. But if you're one does not believe that there is such a thing as a ghost, then the movie is simply nothing but mindless entertainment.

???

coming from someone who has no ilx persona, i think its amazing how with just a few facebook posts this dude's persona turns 90% of ilx into a candle in the sun.

has he posted AIM sn anywhere?

fakefeministssuck

pisshot7533

preachin' to the loi-r

what do you think Marc Loi's class had to say about this thread? is it an example of a kind of competitive degradation unique to a masculinist power structure?

Short revive, yet important.

He's the American Tuomas.

-- GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, October 2, 2006 3:29 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link
this holiday season, see An American Tuomas

-- s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, October 2, 2006 3:39 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

this has caused irlolz 4 me every revive

haha, I never read this thread! lol @ marc loi!

I am piss-hot

Marc Lol

still lolling at the plan b thing

if it werent innapropriate

inna propriate stylee

shit, if it weren't inappropriate, i'd give all my female friends abortions :)

if this is the BEST of marc loi facebook feminist i wanna see the complete unabridged. box set!!!

marc loi is such a classic douchebag

you would so blap

ew

i like his uber-confidence. so cocky for an aspiring "trophy-hubby"

But still, guys like those give me and my buddy bad names.

i admire his cheek for the combo of armchair misogyny/most obnoxious aspects of feminism

Ali : A lot of boys me know are trying to get their girlfriend to try a bit of feminism, do you think that if right?
Sue : Yeah I do actually I think it's a good thing.
Ali : Do you think all girls should try feminism at least once? Do you think it's right that they should try it when they is drunk at a party or what ever with one of their mates?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41R5CA9ZBTL._SL110_.jpg

An amazing book by an amazing woman

Someone once said to never buy an autobiography written by someone who is still alive because it tends to be boring. They were wrong.
This book, though considered as a self-serving book by many right-wing extremists, is perhaps one most the most amazing books that came along. It gives first-eye views into the world of perhaps the second-most amazing woman on the planet. With humor, honestly and passion, Hillary Clinton describes her life from growing up in a Republican family in a small town, to becoming one of the most recognized and beloved person in the White House.

Described in her books are the many adventures, learning experiences and coming-of-age realizations during her trip to the White House. Contained in the book, too, is the story of how she and Bill Clinton met. Perhaps one of the most romantic relationships ever started, this sheds new light on the romantic relationship of the Clinton. It allows us to see that it wasn't a relationship based on politics, but rather two people who are in love, and who share a common interest in making progress in the important areas of American politics -- pushing for acceptance, family values and human rights.

For those who intend to buy this book because they want to read all the "dirt" on the Monica Lewinsky fiasco, don't bother. This book isn't about airing dirty landry for the American public to read. What it is, though, is also a description of the troubled times she and Mr. Clinton went through and how, because they loved each other, made it through.
It probably isn't a "must-read" for any political junkie, but for any freedom loving Democrat, this book inspires and makes one realize there are still good, honest, patriotic politicians in America.

I don't know if you've noticed the same trends, but I am very disturbed that in the past weeks, there seems to be a rise in violence against women. The college student in New York who was abducted and killed, the man who killed his family and shot himself on the freeway in middle America, the police officer who killed his pregnant wife, and now, the professional wrestler who supposedly (and allegedly) killed his wife and child - there seems to be a rise in violence against women.

In all these news stories, the focus is always on the "investigation," but never is feminist thought applied to this - asking why the rise in violence against women? Or, perhaps, is it that the media is merely focusing more on these cases now, being bored with Iraq and having nothing to report about the violations of the Bush Administration?

I assert this: violence against women can be blamed by the culture in which we live in, the one that eroticizes violence and misogyny. Take a look around you - the magazine ads that feature women in the trunk of a vehicle, diamonds that are depicting women lying on the floor with phrases like "to die for," video games that feature violence against women, television shows that show women being murdered.

i'm pretty sure chris benoit was heavily influenced by a diamond ad with the phrase "to die for"

but you'd never learn that if you just focused on the so-called "investigation"

supposedly (and allegedly)

Someone once said to never buy an autobiography written by someone who is still alive

those Shakespeare memoirs were a hoot!

John Edwards is a liar and lost my repect

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=29806768427&ref=mf

This song triggers some really hard realizations for me, In a lot of ways I see myself as that "Desperado".

Nice way to change America.

Marc L (Old Dominion) wrote12 hours ago
What's your story? Mine is below.

I am disappointed. I am fucking diappointed. I am disappointed with them all. All my fucking life, there have only been two men I've tried to mold myself into - Bill Clinton and John Edwards. If you didn't already hear, Edwards admitted to having an extramarital affair - all the while his wife was battling cancer. So, I guess all that tender and loving crap that he showed were just for show. I guess Edwards is just like others. To think - I looked up to both Edwards and Clinton - Edwards ESPECIALLY! I lost my respect for Edwards today.

You think Clinton was bad. He had a reputation for straying ...but at least he didn't fuck anyone when his wife was battling cancer. At least with Clinton, you EXPECT that he cheats.

I am getting to the point where I am molding my own political paths, without having to look up to any of these people. Do you remember that feeling of when you were a kid and realizing your parents aren't perfect or that your hero isn't a hero at all. Yeah, that's my feeling with Edwards now.

Perhaps it's the naivity in me, but I believe you can fuck whomever you want when you're not committing yourself to anyone. But if you have committed yourself, stick with it. Especially when your wife is battling cancer.

In the end, I am not America's Next Bill Clinton or John Edwards. I am going to be better than they were.

your hero isn't an hero at all

Perhaps it's the naivity in me

yeah, perhaps!

In the end, I am not America's Next Bill Clinton or John Edwards. I am going to be better than they were.

-- J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 August 2008 09:41 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

http://profeministmale.blogspot.com/

There's Marc Loi's creative nature at work for you.I don't know what to make of this book …but, if you feel like discussing it, the copy I currently have is yours. Drop by the house any time and pick it up.
Posted by America's Next Bill Clinton at 6:01 AM

the national enquirer cover he chose has nothing to do with john edwards

Oooh, the Toronto Livejournal community has a Marc Loi as well, except his name is Joe

Nice way to change Canada.

linx

In Book of the Dead, Marino's not so secret crush on Scarpetta comes to a head. He reacts badly to news of Scarpetta's engagement to Benton Wesley, and after getting drunk and under the influence of a testosterone drug, he attacks Kay and almost rapes her. His actions lead to a confrontation with Lucy and her almost shooting him, after which Marino disappears. It is unknown if he has killed himself or just runs away as the book ends.

Ah, almost rape!

inappropriate google ads on his blog are mildly lulzy - "Dating for Wealthy Men & Gorgeous Women. Seen on CH4, Richard & Judy" etc.

xxp linx http://community.livejournal.com/toronto/3367953.html missed that request

http://odufife.blogspot.com/2008/11/this-is-what-feminist-looks-like_06.html

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.parents-teens/browse_thread/thread/15e90b7dc4df7759

I checked out the site, and it's pretty disturbing.

I checked out the site for about three hours, and it's pretty disturbing.

Marc said...

Thanks, Jackie, for contributing. Double thanks to Brook for the nicely written article. Most of the time, I am introduced as "the guy who, when he becomes a politician, is going to ruin America." :)

As for the difference in culture - why marry someone with whom you have nothing in common? Perhaps it's just me, but I wouldn't want to marry someone who doesn't even speak my own language. Marriage is about sharing the same dreams and desires, and if you can't so much as communicate, it becomes kind of hard, huh? Marriage is about an exchange of many things, to include culture, and it becomes a one-way power play when the women of third-world nations are forced to learn our culture and ways of doing things, while at the same time, have to almost abadone their own cultures to fit in. Unless you're blind, you cannot deny how ethnocentric spouse support groups are on any military base.

Mix marriages? Again, don't read into things. I've never said anything about that.

Sex assault plan fails troops

The military, it appears, is slow-learning when it comes to preventing sexual assaults.

In a world where 1 out of 4 women will be sexually assaulted by someone she knows, it is mind-boggling that the military still insists on putting the responsibility of preventing sexual assaults on the potential victims.

In front of the post exchange here [at Camp Victory, Iraq], a big sign reads, "Where is your battle buddy? Prevent Sexual Assaults, Always Have a Buddy" — as if "buddies" cannot sexually assault one another.

Apparently, the military views rape as an act that only happens at night, committed by strangers lurking in the dark. Statistics, however, indicate that just like their civilian counterparts, soldiers will be assaulted in dorms and barracks or on dates, often by someone they know.

Rather than telling women not go out at night by themselves, thereby limiting their access to the public spheres, perhaps it would do the military well to teach men not to rape, and that "no" means "no."

As well, it seems the military’s message of consent is one that’s muddled in good old-fashioned misogyny and distrust of women. Instead of telling soldiers to get consent "in case she claims rape to save her military career," perhaps the military ought to start talking about the plights of rape victims and that no human being should ever face the horrors of rape.

Getting consent, after all, isn’t about preventing oneself from getting in legal troubles, but rather, respecting the wishes of a potential partner and fellow human being.

If military leaders truly wish to stop sexual assaults, they need to revamp the current prevention of sexual assaults program; it miserably fails soldiers. Although they make strange bedfellows, the military could learn a lesson or two about rape prevention from feminism.

Sgt. Marc Loi
Camp Victory, Iraq

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=61697

http://www.websophist.com/military_salute_smileyM.gif

Was not expecting that.

Loi Jagger

"All my fucking life, there have only been two men I've tried to mold myself into - Bill Clinton and John Edwards."

Weird goals.

we should teach men not to rape though, he has a point there.

ok now THIS is a good twist

yeah did not see this coming

Banks, historically, would not give loans to people with bad credit, minimum-wage jobs and a spotty financial history, and the neighborhoods these folks lived in were marked. This was called redlining. People often thought that redlining was racially motivated; however, it actually had everything to do with income and financial history.

loooooool

There's a lot of women in Iraq he can prevent other men from raping.

What's the twist? I thought it was established that he was in the military above.

Camp Victory contains two dining facilities; the "Sports Oasis DFAC", the larger of the two, and the "Coalition Cafe". There are also several chain restaurants, located near the PX, including a Pizza Hut, a Subway, and a Green Beans coffeeshop.

Has Loi ever pontificated on the furry fandom? That wd truly be as lulzy as can be.

Waiting for the Loi Takes On the Taliban chapter. Ought to be a good one.

^ Twist will be of course, him endorsing burquas because it's their only defense from rapists.

The women wearing the burquas, not the Taliban. Those guys can go get raped all they want.

http://community.feministing.com/2009/05/how-men-can-be-better-feminist.html

in fairness that could be all otm, did not read

Twelve: Feminism is not a dating service - if you think women should fall all over you just because you're feminist, you're in the wrong movement. If, in the course of doing feminism, you happen to meet someone and you both want to date, then fine. But if you think feminism is a dating service, it doesn't need you, and you don't need it - you need to learn social skills as to not have to use feminism to get closer to women.

Kinda falls into the "not that I'd ever want to see you nude because I respect you as a person" category.

But hey, dude's probably 95% walking the walk and defending Iraq to boot, so what do I care?

Loi-brand feminism has a perverse fascination with dudes being boneheaded neanderthal anti-feminists by nature. It's like listening to one of those evangelical preachers who focuses on sin & the Fall of Man etc. Of course my clowning him on this thread would probably just further confirm whatever beliefs he has that contributes to his distrust of males but I'm in it for the lols man

it seems like some ppl run into a particular explanation for the way the world is when they're young and stick with it, for some it's 'anti-semitism' or 'the matrix' so this doubtless a net plus for the ppl in marc loi's life

If, in the course of doing feminism,

Loi-brand feminism has a perverse fascination with dudes being boneheaded neanderthal anti-feminists by nature. It's like listening to one of those evangelical preachers who focuses on sin & the Fall of Man etc.

This is really, really on the money. He does appear to define himself as against what HE THINKS other people think like! Quite a bit part of what makes his spiel so annoying.

I think you mean "makes his spiel so lol-rrific"

quite a biG part, even.

It varies, I guess, NV? Sometimes, it's funny, sometimes JESUS STFU ALREADY.

I'm sure if I was sharing a tent with the guy it'd be JESUS STFU ALREADY but at this distance he's just some magnificent stuffed specimen of...something.

I guess to me, ppl who's steez is to tell you what you should be thinking reallky set my teeth on edge. Reminds me of radical veggie/huntsab guys who were on the periphery of my social circle back in the '80's. No fun to be w/.

Yeah, I guess "stuffed specimen of..something", I mean I haven't encoundered someone like that IRL since the '80's now I think about it.

lol University in the 80s....good times. I recently saw some photos of the Student Union in Hull circa 1990 and it was all NICARAGUA BENEFIT posters and debates about whether Blue Velvet shd be banned for misogyny. The same building today is all mobile phone ads and topless celebrity disco coke party nights. NB Am not saying the future is an improvement.

Yeah... I mean, a bunch of that shit was terribly over-analytical, prone to bossiness w/r/t the opinions you should have about a whole variety of shit, quite embarrassing in retrospect, but at the same time, preferable (as in: infinitely less depressing to contemplate) to adverts on bus shelters for the local spearmint rhino knockof peeler bar or ladmags or wtfe.

http://community.feministing.com/2008/11/bitch.html

But, me? I love bitches! I love each and everyone of them, and I don't care what society says. Of my relationships, only one was with a bitch. It was good. I didn't have to treat her like anything other than a human being. We respected each other, and loved each other, but knew we didn't need each other. She did her things to change the world, and I did mine. For Christmas, she donated $100 to Planned Parenthood for me; and I donated $100 to the Make-a-Wish Foundation for her. She kicked ass.

She's only one among many bitches out there.

Hillary Clinton = a total bitch.

Gloria Steinem = the bitch of bitches.

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch.

Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton = the foremothers of bitchery.

Angelina Jolie = the biggest bitch in Hollywood (although one would argue she's a privileged white bitch, which makes the complexities of class, race and gender the moreso interesting.)

My future wife = better be a bitch.

My future daughter = will be raised to be the biggest 5-year-old bitch in pre-school.

The next time I am on a date and decide the girl is good enough for a second date, I'll say with the utmost sincerity, "You're the biggest bitch I've ever met." I think I'd enjoy getting a black eye in a restaurant.

All of you who with whom I associate = total bitches - and if you're a male, you're an honorary bitch, and I love you all for it. In fact, I think there might be something wrong if, in the 21st Century, a woman isn't a bitch.

the guy "this guy" was made for

i've always argued that angelina jolie is a privileged white bitch

barf

this guy is the gift that keeps on giving.

[0+] Author Profile Page thiskiss said:

You haven't convinced me that men can reclaim the word.

It's honestly rather grating.

pwned

keep wanting to tell the dude where he's missing the point, but then I'd really be missing the point

Thoughts?!?!?

"Of my relationships, only one was with a bitch. It was good. I didn't have to treat her like anything other than a human being."

I don't get it. What have his other relationships been with?

here I was thinking I wouldn't be finding a new screen name this week

lisa seems pretty nice IMO not bitchy at all

that's because her bitchiness is fictional

you know, i'm beginning to suspect that marc loi doesn't know what he's talking about

My future wife = better be a bitch.

i think this might be the real deal here

For those who cannot see the video, a little boy, a 3rd-grader, is organizing a rally for gay marriage!

While I am against parents using their children as political tools, if this is something he wants to do on his own, more power to him!

Marc. Wants. Feminist. Babies. Now.

oh hell I'll explain it for him since he'll never come here, and therefore remain ignorant:

While misogynists very often call a woman a bitch as she is acting intelligently and s some self worth, a great deal of people use it to indicate negative aspects that all people feel are negative aspects, not just misogynists. If someone says "I am a bitch" then it's generally assumed they mean a positive, take-it-back connotation. The Loi saying "Lisa Simpson is a bitch" is about as acceptable as me saying... well, you fill it in

that's what she said.

i wish he would post here. if he really cared he would.

we should tell him we have a lot of bitches here

we should get him on a thread with kate

http://content6.flixster.com/question/36/70/67/3670676_std.jpg

haaaa

actual giggles out loud

The next time I am on a date and decide the girl is good enough for a second date

"Can't Rape the Willing"

This is a rant on the phrase "can't rape the willing," which, in recent days, I've heard many more people say.

About a week ago, I was telling some friends about a new hair salon in the Hampton Roads area (my hometown) in which attractive stylists are hired simply for that reason, as to attract more men. "Hot chicks cutting your hair," is their selling point, and you can sort of think of it as yet another Hooter's, except there are no wings and fried pickles, or the kick-ass roasted oysters, for that matter.

In response, one of my friends wrote me back: "But is anyone forcing those women? You can't rape the willing." This, for me, shows great lack of insight on the plights of women, as well as the challenges women face economically. For this, I'll try to frame the arguments through the lens of, firstly, economic choices, and secondly, as rape itself.

Firstly: there is a difference between "will" and "desire." That is, while I am willing to follow the law, I don't often necessarily "desire" to follow the law. But my choices are limited - either I follow the law or I go to jail.

The same applies for some women who enter into industries that use their bodies as a selling point. While those jobs may not seem "desirable," some women are "willing" to take those jobs based on the limited choices they have.

If you're given a choice, as a college student, between failing out of school or selling your body, in some instances, you do sell your body. What this speaks of, then, is the lack of choices women are given - and as well, that they lack the economic autonomies to make actual decisions. Limited choices, then, aren't truly choices, but rather, something forced upon women. In some cases, I do buy into the argument that porn, indeed, is rape.

Couple women's lack of choices with societal messages of what women are actually good for, it's no wonder why some women "choose" to enter into industries in which they have to sell their bodies. I am not saying these women are making these choices out of ignorance, I am merely saying these women make choices because they have no other choice.

Is a choice really a choice, then, when it's between a rock and a hard place? Did women pre- Roe v. Wade really have a choice then? Surely, they could have had the baby and ruin their careers, they could have spent thousands of dollars to go to states in which abortions were legal, or, they could induce their own abortions, risking deaths. If we understand choices in terms of reproductive justice, then why are we still blind when it comes to women's lack of economic autonomies?

On the subject of rape, framing through the same arguments, while no one "desires" to be raped, given the choices between getting your throat cut or being raped, for some, rape is a choice - albeit not much of a choice. Given society's victim-blaming mentalities, and the heteronormative attitudes about dating and sexuality, most certainly, some women would be willing to lay there while a date or boyfriend has sex with her when she doesn't want to have sex . This, most certainly, is the definition of rape, is it not? What does this mean then?

It means, for me, that in these situations in which women are faced with making tough choices, power as well as gender and economics come into play. It also means that the next time you are decide to say that some women are making choices out of their free will, check your privilege, because it may not always be what it seems.

in conclusion: hottttt ladies giving haircuts -----> rape -----> abortion ------> life is not what it seems

lol it is a mystery.

he knows the hooters menu pretty well for not being a rapist

okay so going into porn is like following the law? this shit is making my

http://www.thefunnypage.com/snow/man_head_spinning_md_clr.gif

imma gonna stick my neck out and say that marc loi is kinda otm there

http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/15200/15229/guillotine_15229_lg.gif

lj, two hours ago

imma gonna stick my neck out and say that marc loi is kinda otm there

― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), 09 December 2009 03:54 (6 hours ago)

about the hooters menu, i hope you mean?

Dr. Chomsky said nearly the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlRoaFTHuE

think i posted this before on another similar thread, but economic pressures make just about everyone do stuff they'd rather not. mcdonald's isn't where the employees go to get their fix of daily dignity, y'know?

+99% of the people who went to work this work this morning. we all gonna get raped.

given the choices between getting your throat cut or being raped, for some, rape is a choice

http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/7280/original/20070902-Facepalm1.jpg

Marc. Wants. Feminist. Babies. Now.

The forums feature no current gay troops, because any public declaration of homosexuality would put them at risk of being discharged. Some of the speakers are heterosexuals who support the cause.

One of those, Marc Loi of Norfolk, was featured at a Thursday forum in Norfolk. An Army sergeant, Loi has served two tours in Iraq, first on active duty and then as a reservist.

In an interview, Loi said he was moved to join the repeal campaign after seeing gay and lesbian colleagues treated unjustly.

In one instance, he said, a female soldier was sexually assaulted by a male co-worker. After she reported the attack, an investigation concluded that the sex was consensual.

That couldn't be, she responded, because she is a lesbian. On the basis of that admission, she was discharged.

"She was a great soldier," Loi said. "The military has always been a groundbreaker in equality, whether it's gender equality or racial equality. It's time to take that next step toward equality for gays."
http://www.roanoke.com/politics/wb/244455

u have "marc loi" set up on google alert :)

"The military has always been a groundbreaker in equality, whether it's gender equality or racial equality."

!?!? kicking and screaming maybe. . .

http://change-production.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/1/ah/ji/tUahjipWyqyMKzz-201x148-cropped.jpg?1214514062
It's time to take that next step toward equality for gays.

jeez is this guy tireless or what.

"The military has always been a groundbreaker in equality, whether it's gender equality or racial equality."

!?!? kicking and screaming maybe. . .

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:45 PM Bookmark

not really true. a lot of the groundwork for the civil rights movement was layed by the desegregation of the military

think this is admirable of him obv

but of course with marc loi u always have to wonder if he is being driven by "feminist porn" fantasies of his lesbian colleagues

how has he not googled his own name by now

he has - apparently this thread was discussed in one of his women's studies classes???

no matter how much i might agree with mark loi i always up trying to work out what the trouble is with mark loi.

3/4/09-3/11/09 - Week 3 Reading: ilxor.com thread 'The best of Marc Loi : Facebook Feminist'

i just read the whole thread again

how was it.

he's a piece of work, marc!

my nickname for him is mark loin.

"a lot of the groundwork for the civil rights movement was layed by the desegregation of the military"

I guess I don't really give the military itself much credit for that.

this guy is fake right? who's behind the sock?

ksh

I guess I don't really give the military itself much credit for that.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:40 PM Bookmark

well, tell that to my grandfather, who was one of the first 13 black men picked to integrate the military

this guy is fake right? who's behind the sock?

― Did you in fact lift my luggage (dyao)

ksh

― iatee, Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:35 PM

http://playthisthing.com/files/gamenodeimages/ActOfMisdirectionFinal.jpg

http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/e/e9/Zapp_Brannigan.png/180px-Zapp_Brannigan.png

"If it were up to me, there'd be plenty of lesbians in the military!"

loooooooool

he has - apparently this thread was discussed in one of his women's studies classes???

― Ralph Nadir (crüt), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:30 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

zomg

can i just

http://a936.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_7147c9e02956c28fa42f8782a00d6d3f.jpg

Is that a penis with a vagina on it?

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060722141459/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/3/35/Smb1_piranha_plant.png/180px-Smb1_piranha_plant.png

bets on how long before the operation

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4265/mlolm.png

ProFeministMale said:

The only thing I know about the clitoris is that I better work on it, and that working on it yields results ...other than that, I am pretty fucking clueless.

Although reading the Myth of the Vaginal Orgasm a few years ago, as a college student, helped me greatly ...

:[

loi was in the army! wtf

http://www.amazon.com/review/R25PS9RXY7Z39O

Kimberly says:
Sure. So you are smart just because you don't like this movie.
I'm sure you are soooo smart that the only person you can date is your mother.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2NT3A28052BRW/ref=cm_pdp_rev_all?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

Claim Or
I Clamor
Cola Rim
Coal Rim
Cam Roil
Cram Oil
Arc Limo
Car Limo
La Micro
Ram Coil
Ram Loci
Mar Coil
Mar Loci
Arm Coil
Arm Loci
I Or Clam
I Or Calm
Lo I Cram

hahah, so amused when i figured out that was for ghost.

Sergeant Marc Loi --> A Caring Molester

lol

Plan B for soldiers in Iraq
By: Amy

The following is a recent conversation between fellow contributor Marc Loi and I via Facebook. I am posting this to generate conversation about this subject because maybe I'm the only one who thinks this way? Please let us know what you think! :

Marc L is going to bring lots of Plan B to Iraq, in case an female soldiers need it, but do not have access to it! 6:03pm

Amy Twisdale at 7:26pm March 15 :um..

Marc L at 9:28pm March 15: Um?

Amy Twisdale at 9:57pm March 15: who says the female soldiers are going to be having sex in IRAQ .. and personally i think that's really their own business unless you plan on knocking up female soldiers while they're there. think before you post something marc

Marc L at 9:59pm March 15: Well, it does happen in Iraq - and around military bases in global south nations where abortions are not available. Sex is a matter of life - and suppose a soldier gets pregnant, isn't it better that she has access to plan B, since, well, the military does not provide abortions?

Amy Twisdale at 10:16pm March 15: you mentioned two things. 1. military bases in the global south- are you talking about prostitution.. in that case you should bring condoms 2. i don't think a female soldier needs you to rescue them from pregnancy. a.pregnancy is not a bad thing always b. don't you think many u.s. women are on birth control c. i don't think it's any of YOUR business to provide plan b for anyone. let them deal with it personally. i appreciate and respect your feminism, you know that marc. but sometimes i feel you go a little too far and overstep your boundaries as a man. yes i said it.

Marc L at 10:22pm March 15: Well, considering the number of military women being sent home based on the fact they are pregnant, there IS a need for Plan B. And as you say, it's not my business, but it's there as, well, Plan B should they ever need it. I merely see a need, and thus, doing something about it. It's good that you told it as is, though - because, well, it allows me to see things from your perspective. Although I have to ask: how is this any different than, say, a male politician requiring that the military provide Plan B at their medical facilities? Would HE be out of line?

Amy Twisdale at 10:38pm March 15: unfortunately the government controls such things so in this case that is how policy is created. but you're not a politician (yet) and even if you are going to bring plan b (which by the way is $40 a pill.. how many are you bringing?! you must be rich!) i feel it was inappropriate to put that in your status update because plan b... and abortions for that matter are completely personal and emotional and shouldn't be talked about like you're gonna be passing out candy. it also makes it look like female soldiers are promiscuous or something.. also, how are they going to know you have it? what makes you think anyone's going to tell you 'hey marc, do you have any plan b, i think i'm pregnant'

Marc L at 10:45pm March 15: Well, then our conversation ought to focus on how society slut slams women, right? It seems that the perception if promiscuity is a bad thing. This, I see, is both a policy issue and an issue of how we view women. Anyway, I am calling around to see which pharmacy will allow ME to buy it without a prescription. My plan was just to keep it with just Soldiers I know, both males and females. For me, this is not about rescuing anyone, but changing a culture and mindset within the military. I am not a rich man, Amy, but I do live with Spartanlike, and thus, whatever the Army pays, I can use for things like these. Thanks for pointing out what seemed like "rescuer" and "damsel in distress" situation, though - and thanks for not being mad at me. :)

Amy Twisdale at 10:47pm March 15: lol just constructive criticism i still love you marc

marc loi otm

not my business, but it's there as, well, Plan B should they ever need it. I merely see a need, and thus, doing something about it.

what makes you think anyone's going to tell you 'hey marc, do you have any plan b, i think i'm pregnant'

i will

this twisdale person is mad rong. sure loi is, well, loi, but her kneejerk "if they get pregnant it's PRIVATE leave it ALONE god" is clearly not up to speed on life as a female soldier.

our conversation ought to focus on how society slut slams women

omar where is that from?

^^^Marc L at 10:45pm March 15

The following is a recent conversation between fellow contributor Marc Loi and I via Facebook.

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i appreciate and respect your feminism, you know that marc. but sometimes i feel you go a little too far and overstep your boundaries as a man. yes i said it.

"yes, I said it"!

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2009/05/wanda-sykes-twins.jpg

"yes, I said it"!

― mc banhammer (Pashmina), Monday, August 23, 2010 5:31 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a challop indeed

T/S Marc Loi or Bee M1chael P@ine

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/magazine/19Letters-t-ONLANGUAGE_LETTERS.html

google alert?

dude seems to have become less of a creepo and more of a proper, admirable feminist in his old age.

still, I don't think it's helpful to recast an ugly slogan like "man up" (which means something like "don't be a pussy" in its original sense) as a call to stop violence against women. while the goal of the Man Up Campaign is noble, and it's true that men have a huge responsibility to curb such violence, the phrase "man up" continues to imply that there are values/morals/strengths that men naturally hold and women naturally lack — a philosophy that perpetuates gender imbalance and, ironically, perpetuates violence against women. sometimes "taking back" hateful language can be a dramatic and effective means to combat hate, but in this case I don't think it's possible to reclaim "man up" without partly reinforcing its bigoted origins.

"Mensch Up"?

http://www.aidshealth.org/assets/images/in-the-news/press-releases/photos/blair_man-up.gif

that ad seems to suggest that AIDS testing consists of sticking yr dick in blair underwood
or vice versa

BRO DOWN

wood on the down under

our conversation ought to focus on how society slut slams women

― ('_') (omar little), Monday, August 23, 2010 12:44 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark

im dying @ 'slut slams'

dont google that btw

nut up or slut up?

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5264/loim.jpg

who is it that is friends w/ this guy on fb

?

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6281/loi2.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8691/loii.jpg

marclby

oops, last one was a repost; should be

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3936/loi2z.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6281/loi2.jpg

tempted to go with "Chocolate Vaginas will be here shortly" as a dn, but...

I like how he proactively sets up defense mechanisms in every post like he's learned to anticipate the blowback he's going to get

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5227/loi2d.jpg

unremarkable post aside from the fact that I misread "ponies" as "poonanis".

MAN UP, says Marc Loi

chocolate vagina.

Jennifer Anne likes this

chocolate babka

the most annoying thing about marc loi is that despite years and years of apparently studying feminist theory he still thinks its a good idea to attack misogyny as not being manly enough/not scoring enough chicks

'feminist deconstruction aside' is like his mantra. i don't really understand it but it's okay because he's funny.

truth bomb xp

u can tell hes really invested in the feminist project of deconstructing sexual difference

For political scientist Marc Loi, McCain's latest strategy in claiming everyone is his friend is a last-ditch effort at connecting with the American people - one Loi says he does not foresee as being a success.

"John McCain has made a lot of claims," Loi said from his home in Norfolk, Va. "He says he's a maverick, he is not; he says he is more women's rights, he's not; and now he says he's everyone's friend, he is not - I've yet spoken with anyone who says they are his friend or want to be his friend. You cannot go be expected to be president if no one wants to be your friend."

For McCain, Loi continued, this will be a case of both friendship and presidential ambitions denied.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=38523388752&topic=5154

is he trying to write for the Onion now?

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From: dstn2b...@a✧✧.c✧✧ (Marc Loi)
Date: 1999/09/30
Subject: Re: Prepubescent boys, Help/advice wanted.
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Racheal,

Why talk to him at all about it? I am sure that he will be able to find out on
his own as he learns more about his sexuality. There are certain issues that
are best when not talked about, and I think that masturbation is one of them.
I understand that every teenage boy masturbates, but it doesn't mean that they
are ignorant about the issue. Let him be, and I am sure that he will grow into
a fine young man who is in "touch" with his sexuality. As for the question
about ejaculation, I believe that msot boys start at 13-15. I remember my
first ejaculation (sorry for the details), I wasn't scared at all.
Ejaculations don't "just happen", it's a lengthy process that takes months to
develope. It's hard to explain without going into graphic details, and this
being a teenage/parents board, I will respect that and not go into it any
further. But don't worry, he will be fine. :) I would know, I was there a few
years ago.
Marc

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Marc Loi
dstn2b...@a✧✧.c✧✧
alt radio talk

No, size does not matter...it's the bed techniques that matter. Penis size means nothing when you are erected.

Parents:

Why such scrutiny with the kids and the home PC? Kids need to learn trust, and
the only way you can teach them that is to show them that you do trust them.
If your child(ren) is/are not old enough to use the computer without being at
risk, then why give them the access to the computer in the first place? Many
parents are panicking over nothing. Yes, I do realize that sexual assults
happen as the result of the Internet, but you need to realize that a bad man
(pedophile) isn't going to be able to reach through the computer and grab your
kids. There has to be consent by both sides. I don't think it's a matter of
monitoring your kids, but more about teaching them responsible internet usage.
Marc

Marc Loi
Aug 24 1999, 2:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk
From: dstn2b...@a✧✧.c✧✧ (Marc Loi)
Date: 1999/08/24
Subject: Re: Size Matters?

>So tell us once and for all, ladies: Does penis size matter to you?
>>I'm contemplating getting a penis enlargement operation.

Actually Jeff, no. I learned from a man named Rudy that the size of your penis
doesn't matter, it's what you say to the ladies. If you use your tongue and
say "la la la la la" it'll help!

his mom sounds like a piece of work, judging by this topic of his. startling revelation: he has a deep, resonant voice and once dreamed of a career as a talk radio host.

But don't worry, he will be fine. :) I would know, I was there a few
years ago.

Someone call Social Services!!!

this is the number one google result for marc loi

a bad man (pedophile)

ayo any of marc loi's friends or family members who found this thread just innocently googling out of boredom/curiosity, let me break it down 4 u: a large & disparate group of people on the internet think that he sucks & have all come together to laugh abt it

he means well and is often otm tbh

my only beef w/ him is the one stated above

Yeah that's pretty much my only beef too, but it's seems like such a big part of his persona.

Truly a Loi unto himself.

otm but like, a lot of what has been quoted here recently...there is nothing wrong with it or funny about it, except that it is related to marc loi. like, dig deeper imo and find the reprehensible stuff. no one cares if he says it is ok for kids to masturbate - it is. perving on his facebook friends in the name of feminism is a lot more hilarious

its never going to be better than "i would buy all of you plan b"

otm but like, a lot of what has been quoted here recently...there is nothing wrong with it or funny about it, except that it is related to marc loi. like, dig deeper imo and find the reprehensible stuff. no one cares if he says it is ok for kids to masturbate - it is. perving on his facebook friends in the name of feminism is a lot more hilarious

― ☠ (roxymuzak), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:03 (3 hours ago)

posting a fake news article on facebook that quotes yourself as an expert is pretty hilarious and mockable.

I mean why not just make up an expert if you're gonna do a parody article? Do we really need "political scientist Marc Loi" in there?

yeah tbf thats pretty hilarious

There was a segment on NPR this morning about allowing women in active combat roles in the military and it reminded me of this thread.

I think the issue w/ Marc Loi is he comes across as "HEY LOOK AT ME, I CARE ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS, LADIES", wears it too much as a badge of honor. I don't doubt his sincerity but dude could dial it back a bit. Sometimes he comes across as the male feminist version of the "only gay in the village" character on Little Britain.

but roxy, most of us have moved past the point of mean-spirited rubbernecking, and I for one see Marc Loi as a fascinating subject for a case study. at this point my reaction to him is less, "what a disgusting, pervy savage," than "lie down on ze couch, Marc Loi. now tell me, how does your mutter und your vather treatink you, betvween ze ages of 1 und 5? let us explore ze underlyink sexual neuroses of your kinderheit, beginnink vith ze moment of your birth."

Marc Loi is allowed to be an endearing weirdo because his intentions w/r/t feminism (a worthy cause!) are basically sound underneath all his weirdness. it would be a totally different story if his chief obsession were, say, white supremacy.

...

thanks for clarifying that it would be different if he were into, say, white supremacy

zyklon b for xmas

Irl lols

I've met a few people IRL who I'd compare Loi to: socially awkward, well-intentioned, but with a tendency to say or do things that betray an outlook that doesn't quite mesh with mainstream reality.

I'm thinking specifically of a friendly guy who pretty obviously started being way too interested in women's feet in public.

that seems pretty otm

guy excessively into women's feet otm

I'm thinking specifically of a friendly guy who pretty obviously started being way too interested in women's feet in public.

lol

http://i26.tinypic.com/3bxae.jpg

YES

a deep, refreshing source of amusement

-- spectre (gear), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:19 (8 months ago) Link

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feel kinda bad that this is the #1 google result for Marc Loi tho. p sure when I started this thread I had it googleproofed, but presumably a noize mod de-googleproofed it to make it easier to search for or something

Long post, yet important

Nice way to change America.

the other week I saw someone named "Marc Loy" appear among the heroe$ on the Colbert Super PAC donor ticker scroll

dispatch very much in character

http://www.isaf.nato.int/article/news/afghan-border-police-trains-on-literacy-and-gender-equality.html

This clown is still on facebook...I have my own separate disdain for him...but he's out there. I didn't realize this many more people disliked him.

marcloibasketshoes

who was catalyst?

a man who keeps his disdain to himself

http://i41.tinypic.com/ldsfa.png

i saw this and had actually typed "nice way to change america" in the comment box before realizing

A FESTIVAL OF LIES

i'm no one in particular, just someone who sees marc loi's posts on someone's facebook page. and i really don't like him for it.

hi

I'm guessing they're very supportive, feminist posts on a single girl's page

'Prexus Swyftwynd' - Twitter menstruation enthusiast.

@MenMenstruation: The way that girls "know" when their #period is about to arrive is just amazing. The female anatomy is so beautiful and advanced!

https://twitter.com/#!/MenMenstruation
http://meninmenstruation.wordpress.com/whats-this-about/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cLHBwvMVow

That guy is way, way, way more into menstruation than I could ever imagine being.

Like he knows a lot more about individual brands of tampon, pad, etc, than would even be plausible to consider, for me, a menstruator.

http://meninmenstruation.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/always-maxi-leakguard-plus-with-odor-lock-regular-review/

I would definitely recommend this pad to others and has given me renewed confidence in Always. It’s nice to know that they’re trying to get ahead-of-the-game and also moving away from their so-called “like cotton” dry weave and moving to one which feels comfortable, regardless of the weather. After all, pads are terrible when it’s gross outside and you’re sweating, mixed with menstrual flow smell and if incontinent, even urine – so to have a pad that can stand up to that really is impressive. Although the price is steeper than the usual line of pads or other brands, for $3.88 everyday low price at Walmart, I can’t complain.

Why is he reviewing pads? wtf? This is like those vibrator reviews on Amazon where a man write how his WIFE really loved the vibrator and how happy his WIFE was with all her orgasms.

Wow that one blog post has more in it than any thoughts I've ever given to my own sanitary options. Jesus, dude.

Don't tell me you've never taken a photograph of the diameter of your sanitary napkin!

oh you dreadful girls, hopefully one day your flippant posts will evolve into being as amazing and beautiful and advanced as your anatomies.

Haha yes. I can tell my period is coming because my tummy hurts. MAGIC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cLHBwvMVow&feature=youtube_gdata_player

xpost LOL I was gonna say something similar. Gee I dont know, maybe the last 3 days of flu symtoms, stomach aches, bloating and foul mood? NO, IT IS THE MAGIC OF THE LADYPARTS.

Also Although the price is steeper than the usual line of pads or other brands, for $3.88 everyday low price at Walmart, I can’t complain.

He cant complain? Why is he buying pads? Is he wearing them!?

I am amazed this dude has lady friends who go along with all of this.

About Prexus Swyftwynd
Probably not a good idea for you to know anything about me....

too late, man

they probably tell him to shut it but he bears hallmarks of someone who finds girls so wonderful when they're angry. xp

http://meninmenstruation.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/female-masturbation-education-girls-playing-with-themselves/

I remember a conversation I had with one of my god-sis and she kept on insisting about this really “hot boy” she wanted to have sex with. I asked her how much she knew about her body and she said “not a lot” and I had asked her if she ever has touched herself or looked at her body. She said the only time she does that is when she takes a shower or gets dressed and that the touching is “not sexual”. I questioned her further, asking her why she feels comfortable having sex with a guy, yet, is afraid to have even rubbed herself or felt shy about exploring her own body. She kind of blinked her eyes at me, not knowing how to answer because I posed a challenge which made her question WHY she could accept another person groping away at her body but have never done it herself. If in fact she saw masturbating or exploring herself as being disgusting or dirty, why is it any cleaner when done by someone else? In the end I’m not sure if she did end up having sex with the guy (knowing her, probably), but it was probably a question she still cannot answer!

That could be a reasonable question

But probably never to a person that you have any sort of sisterly relationship to

and you can never talk about it

ha estela OTM as usual:

Some girls also look even hotter when they’re angry and ferocious. I was watching a TVB series today called When Lanes Merge (情越雙白線)… and there’s couple of scenes where she’s angry and ferocious, she looks so frigging amazing. Bebe can look a mixture of scary and totally drooltastic when she has her “angry look” on… :lol: – In all reality, I think I can find perfection in every look she has, haha… could be her best or her worse and I still say it’s great XD

:lol:

This guy isn't Marc Loi, is he?

The Internet never ceases to find new ways to terrify me

That guy is way, way, way more into menstruation than I could ever imagine being.

― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:24 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really an amazing application of male aspie weirdo obsessiveness

I asked her how much she knew about her body and she said “not a lot”

first half of an l. cohen couplet (second half is something about thighs)

http://letsnotdate.tumblr.com/image/29380046536

reverse psychology eh

'some transentental evening'

arrr stuffed up the joek with my typos.

KLF mixtape titles for bad typists

If one of the first dozen words a potential date said to me was "pulchritude", I'd run in the opposite direction til I collapsed and died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3bzc7NHbfY

Marc Loi posted to Feminist Majority Foundation
December 6 near Norfolk, VA
Do you guys have an agenda and workshop information for March's conference yet? I'd like get a few fellow to attend, but I'd love to see if the agenda fits needs of our focus.

not Marc but

nopunin10did 3 hours ago

As a male feminist, I sum it up this way: when it comes to gender issues, I defer to whatever Jezebel tells me to do. That can get kinda confusing at times, but it usually sorts out.

that's how I break it down to an extent

was gonna say

http://www.amazon.com/review/R25PS9RXY7Z39O

Do you think that was the first film he had ever seen and was unfamiliar with the concept of storywriting/plot/moviemaking?

I'm just happy there's more than feminism that I can lolz on him now.

why don't ppl like promiscuous ppl i never understood

how is he not on twitter

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2NT3A28052BRW/ref=cm_pdp_rev_all?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

Someone once said to never buy an autobiography written by someone who is still alive
Someone once said to never buy an autobiography written by someone who is still alive
Someone once said to never buy an autobiography written by someone who is still alive
Someone once said to never buy an autobiography written by someone who is still alive

i love this lil guy

If you're looking for great drama, you're certainly not going to get it in this movie. But if you're looking to go back to a place and time when you were a child, when you experienced your first kiss, your first CD and finally holding the girl of your dreams in your arm, this movie is it.

Remember when Marc Loi was a child of the 1960s, when he bought his first CD?

i love this lil guy

― goole, Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:38 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.single.html

when people say that they are afraid their thoughts are "objectifying" women, it sounds like they have a horrible, magical affliction wherein every woman they stare at for too long turns to stone.

i don't really understand this guy's issue though. if he is at a place where he doesn't see personhood, intelligence, etc. and sexiness as contradictory wrt women, why does it matter if he has passing sexual thoughts about the women that he sees? how is that objectifying them? this seems more puritanical than feminist. the real issue with staring at women in public is that it makes them feel uncomfortable, so he should try to not do that if he isn't already, but this constant vigilance over what thoughts go through his mind seems like it would produce a lot of frustration.

The simple solution is mandatory religion

you misspelled "castration"

wanted to post that in this trhead but its locked itt a strange man asks if you saw the ass on that one

max read ‏@max_read 20m
before feminism if you had lustful thoughts you just wore a hair shirt and whipped yourself every night. now you write slate essays

max otm

I often feel like dudes who are all "omg I am tortured by my perverted sexual fantasies because of my feminism" are really looking for a way to tell all of the feminists they want to bone about their sexual fantasies

ding ding ding

there's more than a family resemblance between them and the so-called "nice guys" feminists hate, who similarly seek female validation by insisting that they are more civilized, and less brutishly masculine than "most men".

Tell me more about these nice guys that feminists hate.

http://gawker.com/5969878/nice-guys-of-ok-cupid-are-not-really

A lot of tortured guys are just well-meaning and naive. A long time ago, I nervously confessed my disgusting and depraved thoughts to a girl and she was just like haha that is so tame. I had considered myself one of the great perverts of the universe.

Wow a Gawker link, that's some solid evidence there. Case closed!

*closes case*

Max Read, feminist, blinker.

*blinks*

http://www.waterace.com/images/WALogo.gif

i had the worst dream last night where i had non-consensual sex w/ a random mental projection. well, i'm not sure that it was non-consensual, but the construct didn't explicitly say 'yes' during the dream, at least at any point that i can remember. whew, it feels so good to get this off my chest.

http://images.cpcache.com/image/12171208.png

"nice guys" who think they are nice guys shouldn't be called Nice Guys

I think that guy is an idiot. But I do think that if he really goes around all day eagerly looking for women (like he says, while driving past intersections) to discreetly ogle, that seems like a reasonable thing to be mindful of and maybe dial back, ask yourself why it's so consuming, etc. Just don't write a Slate article about it.

Also stop masturbating so much

Dear God, I hadn't read the whole article. The part where he calls up the sex addict hotline...

okay this is actually a comedy bit, right

Like road rage, ogling, while momentarily satisfying, actually consumes energy and attention, and ultimately makes the task of driving more difficult.

lol i read most of article with this half-articulated uncomfortable feeling that all this focus on the tremendous unwithstandable power to distract wielded by women on sidewalks in shorts was some kind of well-meaning ingrown parody of the taliban mentality, and then:

Instead of undressing them with my eyes, I’m cloaking them in imaginary burqas.

i mean i don't know man be careful there

I mean at this point I am just assuming dude walks around all day like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbUpGoOjFWw

the fuck is wrong with people

my plan for your life, andy hinds: fuck your wife, get a job, don't ever write anything for slate

+1

Andy Hinds is a stay-at-home (mostly) dad, freelance writer, carpenter, blogger at Beta Dad, and contributor to DadCentric, the Atlantic, and the New York Times' Motherlode blog.

coolpervdad.com

i mean i think there's room--maybe its even, like, super fucking important--for men to be conscious and critical of the degree to which their inner life reflects patriarchy. it doesn't mean you go all rev dimmesdale--or write slate essays--though, it means that if you know you have shit to work on, you work on your shit. as the saying goes.

this is a weird essay, obviously.

I can't get over "I am tortured by these idle sex thoughts *goes to swimming pool full of college girls in bikinis*"

well he has to test the hypothesis!

not to sound like an old man but i really don't like this mode where people are really loud and proud their problems, especially when they seem like nbd

hoos otm tho

i'm not sure that quietly lusting over random strangers reifies the patriarchy as much as biology

its especially hard in the summer. the girls are wearing less clothes. you try not to think about it but you have those urges. what if i were just to step into that cafe over there, pull out my laptop, and start writing for slate. omg i could totally do that right now!

I opted out of reading this article called "Stay-at-home Dad sexual fantasies"

it's actually called "Heel", which is even funnier tbh

wanted to post that in this trhead but its locked itt a strange man asks if you saw the ass on that one

― max, Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:37 PM (1 hour ago)

unlocked for great justice

move 'zing'

haha

omg my inner life reflects the patriarchy *panics*

its especially hard in the summer. the girls are wearing less clothes. you try not to think about it but you have those urges. what if i were just to step into that cafe over there, pull out my laptop, and start writing for slate. omg i could totally do that right now!

― best new whale (bnw), Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:01 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, one from the archives:

http://observer.com/1998/08/a-sexual-standoff-in-the-naked-city/

“I want to empower women, white women, to have the style of black women. You say anything to black women and she’s going to come back at you with humor, with scathing humor. These white women miss the humor of the banter and they miss how the black working-class women are able to put down any men, and to gain control through aggressive speech on the street. These white women want to be cool and they want to be silent. In my experience as a lesbian,” Ms. Paglia continued, “a very voyeuristic lesbian, I have to say that straight middle-class women seem to be totally clueless about their body language and the signals that they give sexually.”

Ray Romano was doing this bit a loooooong time ago.

Ray Romano is a very voyeuristic lesbian?

Louis C.K. is actually Ray Romano dressed as a voyeuristic lesbian

i'm not sure that quietly lusting over random strangers reifies the patriarchy as much as biology

― Mordy , Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

unclear on you here: quietly lusting over random strangers reifies biology, or biology reifies the patriarchy?

laughed really hard when i got to "ms paglia continued"

“I often say to myself, ‘Oh, God! She’s so beautiful! I just feel like masturbating right now out of frustration!’” said Jonathan Ames, a novelist who wrote about such impulses in a recent column for the New York Press .

i'm not sure that quietly lusting over random strangers reifies the patriarchy as much as biology

― Mordy , Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cause the notion here is that we have to talk about personal transformation if we're interested in social transformation, and that when it comes to quietly lusting over random strangers one can be playing a part in the upkeep of patriarchy if one's internal life is reinforcing all the usuals.

but like, work on developing female leadership in your organizations. don't write a slate essay.

Why must I be like that? Why must I chase the cat? Nothing but the dog in me.

fetch boy

who wants to critically examine their own sexual compulsions? nobody. except slate writers.

i feel like the motivation for writing this is basically part of his compulsion--he's clearly ratcheting up what was at one time probably normal checking people out kinda stuff into pathology in the pursuit of some kink.

waiting for his next essay where he starts buying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of leather women's leggings

amazing Jj ty

i want to know what his wife thinks when she reads these

xp to ryan, i was going to say something like that but it seemed too speculative. it's possible this guy just has really confused ideas about his own sexuality and how it intersects with patriarchal systems he opposes which, i mean, is understandable because that topic is a powderkeg. he is totally unqualified to write about this stuff for slate though.

he's probably overqualified to write this stuff for slate

lol slate zing

i don't really know enough about that website to have a real opinion -- stopped reading when christopher hitchens died, not that i was a real fan of hitch anyway but he was an entertaining polemicist -- only that all of their articles get like 1,000 comments. this article's comment thread in particular is really bleak.

how does a hoos square his belief in personal transformation with the historical failure of religion to keep men from thinking impure thoughts & masturbation? fighting the biological imperative to fuck is basically warring on nature. maybe praiseworthy but ultimately quixotic?

"biological imperative"! mordy what happened to all your Theory

fucking feels good bc those who like to fuck the most are the most likely to reproduce which is why sex will continue to get better as history moves on - or so I learnt many years ago

xp why even praiseworthy though? i think the key thing is to get rid of the idea that mark loi put forth in his facebook comments in the OP that "wanting to see someone naked" and "respecting them as a person" are incompatible, or at the very least at odds in some way. that idea doesn't even make sense. it seems like sexists would think that way, not feminists.

I was just throwing hoos a bone - I don't think it's praiseworthy.

seems that people who have the best sex are those with lowest rate of reproduction/fucks

how does a hoos square his belief in personal transformation with the historical failure of religion to keep men from thinking impure thoughts & masturbation? fighting the biological imperative to fuck is basically warring on nature. maybe praiseworthy but ultimately quixotic?

― Mordy , Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's not about self-policing thoughts altogether, or anything like fighting the biological imperative. it's just about understanding the power differential and being mindful of the ways we can reproduce it or instead work to subvert it in our lives, whether in real interactions with women or in the interactions with women we allow ourselves to imagine.

towards an anti-sexist wanking

you could ask to what meaningful degree power relations matter in the fantasy space between your ears, but it seems to me and iirc studies have shown that the attitudes we cultivate and nurture have a real effect on the way we move through the world, so imo part of dismantling patriarchy means confronting and challenging it even when it appears in quiet lust over strangers.

just imagined bombing all these studies to smithereens

now movin thru the world like a studybomber sup

what happens when ppl don't police their own thoughts tho, can we get someone on that

big darr aka

ha ok let's not re-do the whole 'ass on that' thread here

can i just clear up the apparent situation here, is it in fact the case that i'm arguing "hey like be willing to think about how you think about women if you're trying to respect women irl" and people are saying "nah dogg"

i missed that thread tho ;_; but iirc we covered basic ground on the noted hoos hotel kickout thread of yore

it is not in fact the case xp

i must be missing something then

what is the case

is it made of pleather

the case is motion: hatewank gon make u that boston strangler watch out now response: ?{`~`}?

the truth may lie btwn but who knows

you totally lost me bruh

I don't want to police thought but I will happily police what slate decides to publish.

hahahaha this essay, wow it's pretty great

his wife must be pretty awesome

how could you put up with this shit?

sorry, i'm have a real negative reaction to this guy, i should figure out why maybe

*having

I gave it a good eye roll this morning and have just been following this thread for my own entertainment, I don't have time for all the soft-brained idiots in the world. Or, well, I do actually have time but I used it to make sweet tea and clean my bathroom instead.

"hey honey, how was work today? oh me? uh, nothing much. well, i have been working on that article, i think i have an editor at slate willing to publish. yeah, it is pretty great. oh it's not about much. just about... guy stuff, i guess. you'll read it when it comes out, right?"

remember that time I went to the parent-teacher conference? yeah... shit was pretty crazy.

I like to call it my lost weekday

sorry, i'm have a real negative reaction to this guy, i should figure out why maybe

― goole, Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:46 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for me at least its that this guy is essentially just an MRA. or a like mirror-image MRA, like the whole schtick--and the writer he quotes, schwyzer, is like this too--is totally consistent with the MRA vision of the world, he just personally slots himself in the "beta" position

I was going to leave Schwyzer out of it but...yeah. To call him a controversial feminist is conveniently eliding everything but the tag line.

also like. surely there was... a woman feminist you could have called.

Or perhaps not, if the effect you want is for them to air THEIR sexual fantasies to the general public. I thought that part was particularly odious.

well, he did contact Joanna Schroeder first

one part of it is that, for all the rhetoric of self-actualization, he is performing a role of powerlessness over himself, which has the end of excusing himself for whatever he thinks his sins are.

the MRA bros (and plenty of other men) will say "my ogling his hard wired! it's biology! i can't not look! you can't hold me down!"

and this guy's version is "ugh there are so many rules to being a good person, i can't live up to it! i'm such a problem!"

tbph i p much skimmed the dude's article

theres that whole "dude feminist" population led by schwyzer who seem intent on treating feminism as a phenomenon that primarily affects them and their lives. or like, who seem unable to write about it without using it as a plot device through which they can work out their sex neuroses in public

Max, I want to cross-link your last post to the thread somewhere about white male academic novelists where I rant about that book in which the professors who are all sleeping w each other have breakfast in a diner and end up floating around the room with the hot young waitress.

to date i'm not aware of a feminism that has pathologized the experience of male heterosexual attraction itself. i know that's what 'they' say about dworkin and butler et al but not having read either of them directly much, i'm inclined to doubt it.

The Verificationist, which I can never remember the name of when I want it.

the entire article is a transparent "hey ladies, I think you're hot" bat signal, which is what makes it so annoying

or that piece from a dude who, hey ladies, check this out, i'm really into, you know, going down

*tips shades*

goole otm - the guy highlighting all the hoops he's supposed to jump through is his way of implying the absurdity and unfairness of his having to do so. he's regurgitating some standard (albeit warped) feminist language to build up his cred so he can basically reach the conclusion of "i'm trying, but i am what i am!"