That girls only thread is brilliant

And I know you guys are all jealous! Why didn't you just create a thread so you could comment about how jealous you were! Or comment about what's going on over there. I have definitely had questions and comments of my own, but I knew I would get banned!

is this the boys only thread then

oops

i guess not

I don't want a guys-only thread. END SEGREGATION ON 1P3!

yall pussies

☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻

this thread needs a PILLOWFIGHT!!!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/RaychulMoore/GGN/UsPillowFight.jpg

It's not a boys only thread, but maybe it is a girls only thread meta-thread. Or it could be.

Aw, that is such a cute picture.

so what comments and ?s of your own did you have bryce???

"this thread smells like boys"

- my mom

i'm not banned yet. i'm going in.

that thread is some bullshit >:(

omar little, congratulations on your engagement, i wish you all happiness forever<3

; D

>:(

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/electric-fence-snake1.jpg

tsk

real nice, guys

1p3's hermaphrodite massive needs a thread too

[POST DELETED]

heeee

or rather:

s/heeee

Here's a boy issue I would like to address at some point. Bikini waxing or other methods of grooming/hair removal. Just putting that out there.

approach weed whacker, crouch, repeat

xp: there was some discussion of this on the gay thread recently. just sayin, yo

cootie alert is at peuce

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Monday, June 22, 2009 12:59 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

This.

Also, harbl seems willfully not to want to fit in over there! Calls you old, then can't even pretend she crushed on some famous dude.

Just a great thread over there. A new 1p3 classic.

On the issue of dudes grooming hair: Dudes got to take it easy. I mean, a little goes a long way!

However, harbl's equation or function or whatever to calculate her age is brilliant and cuet.

Dudes grooming hair anywhere other than their head is something I'm not that ok with tbh. I mean sure a little clean up/maintenance is fine but guys are supposed to have hair! I would be completely freaked out to be with a guy I found out waxed shaved etc.

oestrotastic

^^^ exactly. Guys are supposed to have hair, so just have hair.

I also wanted to say that Dogfight is not just a meh motion picture. It's a good story! Doesn't sugarcoat shit.

Oestrotastic? To the (online) dictionary.

What am I thinking? Obvious neologism.

I would be completely freaked out to be with a guy I found out waxed shaved etc

Key clause being "if I found out". All men are actually wolves with fastidious grooming regimes. That's our big secret.

LOL

I mean ladies are supposed to have hair too and despite my waxing horror story in the other thread, I'm pretty pro hair (within reason, of course) for girls too but that's another discussion on its own.

Also, harbl seems willfully not to want to fit in over there! Calls you old, then can't even pretend she crushed on some famous dude.

˘\(o_º)/˘

Puce. Please.

Harbl we <3 you still.

I think it's actually more that I'm not "pro hair" per say - I mean, do whatever you want. I do, however, get really freaked out by people who are extremely against body hair on women.

i like the idea of gender-only threads but i don't really fit in either!

Yeah, harbl, I <3 u 2.

Well . . . this one is really a girls only meta-thread. It's like the girls only thread is the street, and we're the sewer main. But I dunno, I think we want you to feel like you belong either way.

Im pretty sure this is the thread where we come to talk about ur thread and altho tbh it would be pretty dull if you didn't contribute please try to restrict contributions to those talking baout us talking about ur thread.

ur thread's great btw. i also think surm fits in both.

it's ok, i'm not upset about any of it! just commenting :) sorry if i'm not supposed to be commenting in here... i was confused

When I was a teenager I read Seventeen, Nylon, W, Vanity Fair and maybe an issue or two of Cosmo. Cosmo kind of sucked. But seeing Sassy, I totally wish I read that, too. And I heard Jane was good.

Nylon's totally jumped the shark. Seventeen is just ridiculous and stuck in a time capsule. Cosmo still sucks.

Last magazine like that I read was Right On!, I think, which is like Seventeen for black girls.

Yeah, Surm, you should be commenting here!

surm's comments on replacing front shafts in a dana-60 in the woods with almost no tools on the guys-only super-secret thread were v v helpful.

i never liked magazines. i still don't like magazines.

hahaha

the guys only thread sounds way more interesting :(

I didn't know there was one.

It's gender envy!

it ain't ;)

the guys only thread sounds way more interesting :(

― harbl, Monday, June 22, 2009 11:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

When I was a teenager I read Seventeen, Nylon, W, Vanity Fair and maybe an issue or two of Cosmo. Cosmo kind of sucked. But seeing Sassy, I totally wish I read that, too. And I heard Jane was good.

― bamcquern, Monday, June 22, 2009 11:47 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

These comments don't sound like gender envy to you?

http://www.moviegoods.com//Assets/product_images/1020/48176.1020.A.jpg

I don't know if that's weird about not remembering being a teenager or kid, harbl. What do you remember about now?

l-r roxy, enbb, harbl, just1n3
front: hoos

xp

i remember now i am sitting here drinking coffee not doing what i am supposed to

i have a really bad memory though. i can't remember most of lol college either!

can boys talk about lisa frank stuff here
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0G0KeGZNnU0/SOkLif0annI/AAAAAAAAAJE/P4llZRVs8yQ/s320/8baeded0.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY5P0Vk9TIM

if nothing else the girl thread introduced me to lisa frank

http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv185/jimmythek_bucket/TheDiaryofLisaFrank.jpg

^ that is an alien not a girl

girls thread is dominating admin log btw

a diabolical alien-girl conspiracy

i want on their spaceship

i suspect that we are not welcome

that thread kind of makes me feel like i am a boy

what if i am and no one told me?

lol harbl i am sorry i teased you about being five years old! <3

you did? lol. it's ok. it's hard being a kid though.

I didn't have anything to add until the charm bracelet part. The rest of the girliness is over my head.

Those girls are just frontin for the thread, anyway. You really think they're that girly?! Lisa Frank for ironical lols 60%, aesthetic appreciation 40%.

But NKOTB: that's some serious shit.

Well yeah, I don't know anything about any of that stuff. Never listened to any of those teen pop bands when I was a teen.

Je t'aime on a heart-shaped bike lock made of silver.

Um. Oh, yeah.

I wanna hear stories about first period homeroom next, as per ENBB's suggestion.

idk, I don't think I want hear about first periods.

Dudes grooming hair anywhere other than their head is something I'm not that ok with tbh. I mean sure a little clean up/maintenance is fine but guys are supposed to have hair! I would be completely freaked out to be with a guy I found out waxed shaved etc.

― ☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Monday, June 22, 2009 9:28 AM Bookmark

gay thread came to same conclusion

http://www.geocities.com/fp_webhm/MyDirectory/MyPages/Features/Snakes/snakeposing.jpg

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/46/65/Robbie.0.0.0x0.250x247.jpeg

http://www.hogrockcafe.com/Wet%20T%20Shirt%20Contest%20Picture%205.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/reuben_frank/11/23/stats.week12/p1_smith_steve.jpg

http://www.texasoutdoorzone.com/images/Deer%20Blind%202.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1439/menofthe11thbattalionthxw1.jpg

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/12/RW_HotRodRace.jpg

http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/scott-kallita-fatal-crash-died.jpg

(I felt so alone while my wife and daughter was away. I missed them so much.)

http://www.twip.org/photo/2009/photo-27-03-09-05-16-57.jpg

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/pitbull/pitbull-thumb-336x403.jpg

http://www.strangenewproducts.com/uploaded_images/john-deere-chopper-lawn-mower.jpg

^would mow with

wtf

Dudes grooming hair anywhere other than their head is something I'm not that ok with tbh. I mean sure a little clean up/maintenance is fine but guys are supposed to have hair! I would be completely freaked out to be with a guy I found out waxed shaved etc.

― ☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Monday, June 22, 2009 9:28 AM Bookmark

ugh ok

btw how does anyone not know lisa frank

http://pageslap.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/tim-toolman-taylor.jpg

^^^Pleasant Plains

some people don't live in america x-post

; )

Surmounter - my thoughts on male shaving are different if the men in question happen to like other men. :-)

je refuse

ok ok but FTR i do not condone shaving. i was merely TALKING about waxing the other day. that's it!!

OK, glad you cleared that one up for us.

ugh i really am too. people are gonna start getting the rong idea.

i would be afraid to shave my balls

it's a bad idea

maybe nair

Yeah, don't ever do that.

Trust me - shaving anything very closely in that particularly delicate region is a pretty terrifying experience.

I, too, would be afraid to shave your balls, gbx.

E i don't know how you people do it. all that hair maintenance down there. seems like a terrifying experience.

like, terrible.

ENBB, if hetero men aren't allowed to pluck their ear/nose/back/shoulder/eyeball hair with a clear conscience, then I'm definitely not down with with your little code of social conduct.

It is! But as I said earlier I think a lot of people have weird hangups about that sort of thing and that the Brazilian craze has gone too far. I'm pretty firmly in the neat and tidy but not completely bare camp when it comes to that particular aspect of grooming. (Thing #587 I will at some point regret telling the internet)

lol i love ya for it

(the telling, not the grooming)

unregistered - ear nose etc. is a different story entirely! I was thinking more along the lines of like chest/genital and well I guess back too. Unless those ares are like abnormally ridiculously hairy I just don't see the point.

i love your blue smiley faces

:-)

So a couple of years ago I worked with two girls who were good friends and both of them were totally weird about body hair. One of them even shaved her arms! They were both completely shaved and actually thought any amount of hair on a girl was "disgusting". ARGH! They made me so mad.

ew. i'm sorry but you can't shave your arms, that's disgusting.

I just didn't get it.

YOu know what's weird though? With all of my strong opinions on this I'm actually sort of obsessive about shaving my legs. I think that stems from having to wear a uniform in high school so I just got used to shaving them nearly every day.

And yeah surmounter being a girl is sometimes hard fucking work - it's true.

well but legs are like, i imagine they make you feel good to have a really clean shave. i feel like a million bux when i shave my face

(is this at all comparable?)

yeah but there's definitely a lot of dudes out there who basically expect women to be completely hair-free, which is weird

i think we've been over it before somewhere, but there's a whole ephebophilic element to the hair thing that's....problematic?

the fuck is ephebophilic

how will you ever find out

fancy name for a kiddie-fiddler, isn't it?

x-post to surm - Oh yeah I think it totally is. I love the way my legs feel right after I've shaved them. That probably sounds really weird but I just feel 10x more put together when they are.

i totally get it! there are those certain things

ephebophiles are ppl into 'late adolescents,' not kiddies

so, like 17 yos basically.

"expect women to be completely hair-free, which is weird"

That is so fucking weird to me.

As obvious from previous posts I've done this in the past (yes, at someone's request) and tbph it felt completely weird, prepubescent and creepy.

uh

where is cutty, he shaves his legs

xp that was my point!

i think most guys i know are ephebowhateverthefux

to clarify what I find weird about it is the expectation involved as if that's more normal for a lot of people at this point

Does Cutty shave for sports purposes or something because that would be different?

i always loved that argument, that the smooth skin will make you swim faster

guys you've seen the Demi Moore bush pics, right?

i don't know!!

I'm pretty sure I (or maybe it was someone else) linked to this on another thread once but I can't remember which.

Uh . . . NSFW: http://photos1.blogger.com/photoInclude/blogger/1617/742/1600/demi%20bush.jpg

shut

up

that's not possible

no, link plz xp n/m

cutty shaves because he is a serious cyclist and that's what you do

and yeah, surm, i guess it's not totally weird to think that 17 yos (of either sex, dunno if u were talking about gays or not) are attractive, but it ~is~ weird to fixate on it, and expect adult men/women to be hairless teenagers

like UH

oh god, how can she swim with that thing?

wow!

that's kind of excessive, but I have nothing against a bush

her face looks really stunning

http://cdn.idontlikeyouinthatway.com//pictures/20080626/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked/t/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked%20pictures%205thumb.jpg

are you sure that isn't a giant merkin?

Yeah I mean I find it more amazing than anything else. In that chair pic she looks like she's birthing a bear cub or something.

So here's where I'm thinking a little trim could be nice though:

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20080626/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked%20pictures%204.html

ok speaking of ephebophiles

lol i was gonna make a merkin joke

you guys, i'm feeling a little overwhelmed

Not a giant merkin - she's just a very hairy lady. I hope she tips whomever's waxing her now (cause you know someone is) well.

These are all from some photo shoot she did for a French magazine in the early 80s, btw.

I know, I just wanted to say "merkin"

you guys, i'm feeling a little overwhelmed

― surm, Monday, June 22, 2009 10:58 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

totally

This is the second time merkins have come up on ILX this week and the second time I've had occasion to post a link to http://www.merkinworld.com/.

(side note: I like her cute pre-implant boobs!)

they're so cute!

you and me both lady

lol xposts right there

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

They're so much better than the halved grapefruits she got later on.

hahaha oh wow @ merkinworld

yeah her tits do look quite nice there

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7091/rd12oh7.jpg

peronally I think this thread is now more brilliant than the girls-only thread. jussayinyo

ts: omg i had a period v demi moore's bush

you decide!

HAHAHAHAHA!!

omg demi moore's bush had a period

uh . . .

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2009/02/merkin.jpg

what in the

BTW - if any of you dudes look like this guy then I take back what I said upthread and pls feel free to groom away:

http://www.thrillist.com/pics/hirsute.jpg

^ found with GISing "merkins"

"body merkin"

is that man real?

I think so?

: (

that would be a painful wax

....

Erica have you ever heard of this silk-epil? it's like a little machine with rotating discs that clamp together and PULL YOUR HAIRS OUT

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m48/jerkyhole/pedofag.gif

http://imshopping.rediff.com/shopping/pixs/3580/b/braunEe9silkepil.jpg

xD @ amon

amon what are you doing to that poor kid?

Yeah, my mom had an epilady in the 80s. Never in a million years would I subject myself to that torture device.

my aunt still uses one i think! she's like "u get used to the pain"

idk man, it seems really awful

eyeball hair

shaving my legs. I think that stems

My old roommate used a machine epilator.

Um. Oh. Uh.

Right. Pulling hairs out of your nose is painful! Dudes should just use scissors or something.

Also, I really really think the next big thing in women's pubic fashion should be pubic hair conditioner and permanent waves and shit.

idk about automatically assigning a desire for a prepubescent look to ppl who like shaved sex-bits - i used to think it was a little weird and creepy till i actually got a wax and then i was like: shit this is awesome! it just feels... better; cleaner and just nicer, i guess. but it's also a total pain to get done and kind of expensive

or post-pubescent or whatevs

http://www.motherstankstation.com/images/images-kevin/music-shop.jpg

http://www.motherstankstation.com/images/images-kevin/engine-blue.jpg

http://www.motherstankstation.com/images/images-kevin/workshop-with-scooter.jpg

Justine - I didn't mean to imply that everyone who's into that is for that reason at all but there is definitely an element of that for some people.

you taint a lot of people with that brush...

There's def an element of "proper woman who groom themselves will have a pedicure and a blow-out at all times and also will have their waxer on speed dial" element at the higher end of the consumption spectrum. At least in this city, it's almost unknown for women not to have had pedis in the summer, and everyone is beauty-obsessed. (Of course there are lots of people for whom neither thing is true but they're less visible.) Anyway, the idea that de-humanizing and un-messifying your body is necessary to be a minimum of civilized is sort of just...around.

I'm prob guilty of perpetrating it myself, considering how I feel about beards.

i shaved 2day

I'm prob guilty of perpetrating it myself

Oh I am too to a certain extent there's no question about it. I just think it's really interesting that the whole waxing bare thing seems to have become almost the norm now and wonder why and where this started. idk.

i just feel like it's any other aesthetic thing you do to your body - like wearing certain clothes, doing your hair, wearing jewelry or perfume etc.

i got a haircut yesterday

Pix or it didn't happen

as i was going downstairs to shower my housemate i discovered my housemate dancing naked around her bedroom with the door open.

turns out she is not a perpetrator.

What we're you going to shower your housemate with?

nair

hahaha

i've been away, but in response to everything happening here:

obviously we need to invite surm to the girls thread

+

harbl totally fits in, she just fits in by not fitting in i.e. fulfilling the required "weird girl" role. it's perfect, i love her, she was just 4 factorial u know what i mean

Lol

12?

wait lol 24

if you were a girl you would have known the answer immediately

u_u

wish i had some girl sock for that thread

Why does that sound so gross?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ezJc5vDul1U/RvnC17BzvXI/AAAAAAAAAN4/m5N8etJgBu0/s400/115654img2.jpg

Yeah - I read that and wondered what the hell a girl sock was for a couple minutes before getting it.

Salsa Shark is my girl sock tbh

you taint a lot of people with that brush...

At least in this city, it's almost unknown for women not to have had pedis in the summer, and everyone is beauty-obsessed

as i was going downstairs to shower my housemate i discovered my housemate dancing naked around her bedroom with the door open.

What we're you going to shower your housemate with?

wish i had some girl sock for that thread

I think I had a dream about nair.

I want to point out again the slight disappointment I feel when I notice that it's all gone. Really it's all about accepting what you're given (me accepting, not anyone else doing any accepting).

Who lives in the summer pedicure town? That place is poo town.

N1ck: Your housemate is a real deal free spirit.

Okay, I wanted to move the conversation on from hair a little bit. Just a little - can come back to.

Make a list like this:

shaving
grilled cheese
porn
baths
math
sex
ice cream
Gilmore Girls

and put pluses, minuses or equal signs to say whether girls like them more, less or the same as guys. We're doing it this way since this is the de facto (hardly) guy's thread. I'll go first with the above list.

shaving =
grilled cheese =
porn - (reports on neurological stimulation are conflicting, right? Like, stimulation of the visual cortex doesn't mean someone isn't stimulated. I saw a report that said girls looking at porn is more common. I had this girlfriend that just opened up some porn videos on the Internet like it was no big deal, once. But still, minus sign overall)
baths +
math =
sex =
ice cream =
Gilmore Girls =

So, you can make your own or copy-paste someone else's.

what are you talking about

Who lives in the summer pedicure town? That place is poo town.

this is otm

poo town -
taint brush +
accepting what you're given =
shaving cheese -

????

We're not talking about hair anymore. I am lost. What are we doing now?

i feel like i am starting to find my way again

You can still talk about hair.

This is just a tangent that has apparently confused some people.

My take on this:

poo town -
taint brush -
accepting what you're given =
shaving cheese +

girls are less likely to like poo town? to me it sounds like poo town is full of girls who love to pay people to touch their feet i dunno

Well, I stand corrected.

But I also was thinking of a town made of poo, and how would guys feel and how would girls feel. Less a metaphorical poo town that Laurel (& harbl too?) lives in.

no i do not live in poo town thank you very much

metaphorical +
thank you very much +

pretty sick of this yellow card iirc

What is a yellow card?

u get it if u are bad

my friend was just telling me that he found a yellowjacket in his salad once, a dead one

Hmm. Did he send it back?

This yellow card is pretty cool. It's not like I'm going to be applying for a job and the HR is going to say, don't hire that guy, he got a yellow card once on ilx. It'd more likely that they'd do a background check and say, "He said WHAT about pubes on WHAT message board?"

yeah! he got a free meal

i wish you could get different color cards and i wish the yellow was real yellow

I would put that in the moderator request forum, but I suspect that they are powerless to do anything about stuff like that.

What color is it?

Pale canary or something. Easter egg yellow.

Hmm

fuck that yellow imo

i wanted to paint my bedroom butter yellow, but ryan wouldn't have it.

(i was thinking french country

harbl = "weird girl"

?

Harbl is great. Everyone loves weird girls. Maybe Harbl isn't weird. Everyone loves harbl anyway. Harbl's name is not unlike admrl's.

http://hollywoodnews.today.com/files/2009/02/ally-sheedy.jpg
Harbl is great. Everyone loves weird girls.
― bamcquern,

dandruff snow <3

that's very funny It's the 1p3 What Do You WISH You Looked Like Thread

i like that style of thread title, "presenting" the thread

i should do that more often

strapless bras never work for me

:(:(:(:(:(:(

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Friday, June 26, 2009 4:08 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

lolololol

bryce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/FreeRangeBoobies.jpg

last night i told my bf that with the light off he looked like janmes franco, he got pissed off

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Friday, June 26, 2009 4:44 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

That's probably partly because he was secretly reading 1p3 and he saw that you said you dated a dude who looked like James Franco and he was stupid. And dudes don't like to be compared to other dudes - maybe he thought you were saying he was like James Franco twice removed.

Correction: people don't like to be compared to other people sometimes.

haha btw bryce do you think ian looked like james franco cause thats who im talking about

I knew who you were talking about. Not really, but Ian was/is cute. Also, I think he is less stupe these days. Possibly way, way less stupe.

One time on 1p3 you said something about a boyfriend being aspie and I was like, wait, what?

yeah we actually met for the purpose of squashing whatever remaining beef we had w/ each other and we're pals now

he seems like he's kinda got his shit together better now

xpost sorry

it is clear: you think i should date ian again

fine, whatever makes u happy

ENBB
----
ROXY

2012

Ian is dating Khann and they are happy together so don't go homewreckin' around!

lol we might not know wtf to do with a country but the wdylls would blow up like antonioni

xpost i know yall just pass girls around btw

^^ LOL yes.

Also I want to point out that you xposted your own post within that post. There is entirely too much leapfrogging on ilx, I mean, usually context takes care of everything.

bryce you should get aim, i think it might change our lives atm

There has a been a crapload of that in my life the last few years.

Ian-Emily-Bryce
Dan-Bailey-Bryce
Bryce-Khann-Ian
Kurt-Susie-Bryce

Sheesh!

But possibly the trend is going to change. I think from now on I am just going to date girls from Iowa. Seriously, I got flirted with by some girl the other day while Ryan was visiting his girlfriend's folks with her in Iowa City.

Oh, what? Well, I'll start loading it up. Time was I never saw your sn on there. Or anyone's sn, and that is why I stopped booting it up.

haha SERIOUSLY, like it is shocking

sn = roxymuzak lets chatz

OK. I mean, not now, obviously, since I'm going to see As You Like It. First time I've been out of the house for something besides school and groceries for two weeks. Really, 14 damn days.

conceited tag
If my male friends were better boyfriends their girlfriends wouldn't fall in love with me.
close conceited tag

And if I had a clue about socializing and being outgoing then I'd meet girls some other way.

hahahahha you are the best, dude

What the fuck is going on here?

sorry bryce and i are catching up one one (1) old time

are u on a TRS80 dude whats the hold up

oh wait, youre seeing a play

i'm posting from a TI-86

(btw)

of course you are!!!

Dang girl, I never got further than the TI82

what are "crazy legs"

lol, "crazy"
ok, varicose veins, i see it now

weird legs

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RFDCkGzS3T8/SFfHXL7Hj8I/AAAAAAAACFo/FZeua2zcGzo/s400/fergie_cellulite.jpg

Oh shit. If my legs ever look like that . . . WAH!

holy shit that isn't even like normal cellulite that's like an alien baby is gonna come out of it

is that black eyed peas fergie's leg??

my eyes are black from looking at that

idk but i see that on womens legs all the time

or is it the duchess of pork?

fergie

actually it looks kind of like an old injury or something--otherwise why would it look bunchy like that? i still have an indentation on my leg from falling while skiing when i was 15

nah some ppl have that shit all over the back of their legs

:-/

haaha

It's not funny, Adam! It's scary!

do you guys ever have like a flash of paranoia when you see a woman on the street and you're like "shit that's gonna be me in 20 years"

or is it just me

― harbl, Friday, June 26, 2009 5:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I see beautiful older women everywhere, all the time, and I say, "I want to be married to that in 20 years."

Those guys who are getting banned apparently don't know there's a meta-thread.

I love how everyone on ilx is always recalling correctly when they're not even necessarily recalling, or even unsure about if it's correct. I mean, forget about the fact that people don't actually mean to always use the phrase "if I recall correctly." A lot of Internet acronyms have slipped like that. It's weird, actually. I don't stop noticing, I mean - not ever. The only one the meaning has slipped on that I've allowed to slip is lol. Something that is lol does not mean you are laughing. Lol is weird. It took me more than ten years to warm up to it.

Yes, this is in response to the girls' thread.

"no he also has a bangin body iirc"

This is funny.

philip that that that deflated leg.
philip that that that deflated leg.
philip that that that deflated leg.
philip that that that deflated leg.
philip that that that deflated leg.
philip that that that deflated leg.
philip that that that deflated leg.

And that is something else.

And I want to say in response to boy drama queens: I do not try to hide being a drama queen - I will be all like: "This is horrible. Please pay attention to me. I am having a breakdown."

And if I am insensitive I will be all like, "I am sorry for my insensitive bullshit. I am trying to grow out of saying things like that."

See that's good though. More boys should learn how to do that.

And Fergie is hot anyway.

And I've seen cellulite on a thin seventeen year old! I'm sorry about the women and what they have to go through.

I love how everyone on ilx is always recalling correctly when they're not even necessarily recalling, or even unsure about if it's correct. I mean, forget about the fact that people don't actually mean to always use the phrase "if I recall correctly." A lot of Internet acronyms have slipped like that. It's weird, actually. I don't stop noticing, I mean - not ever. The only one the meaning has slipped on that I've allowed to slip is lol. Something that is lol does not mean you are laughing. Lol is weird. It took me more than ten years to warm up to it.

tbh, u r pretty otm, iirc.

idk, fwiw ymmv

lol

If you spelled that out, Tehresa, that would almost make sense. It's only the iirc that sticks out.

otm is one of my favorite Internet acronyms. And I like "cash sitta." It took me a while to get that. I mean, a minute or two.

true story: I'd never seen ymmv until january and then I had to google it and tbh I am not really feeling it.

aw it's like bamcquern is just learning about 1p3!!!

aw

[James Franco]

2 minutes ago.

we like the pics

the pics that go "swoon"

we're enbb and roxy and we like the swoon

it's true, we do

we're enbb and roxy and we like to swoon
if you don't like to vacillate then you are a goon
we rock back and forth and we do it gentle
James Franco is cute but I'd rather watch Yentl

i m riting email bout u

steel magnolias -
9 to 5 think I will +
clueless +
beaches probably -
bring it on ? saw it on mute at a gay club in Miami while i was waiting downstairs, and then we went upstairs and danced to progressive house, sooooo, maybe +?
breakfast at tiffanys +
13 going on 30 ?
the princess diaries =

Bring it on is +++

Then that's cleared up.

only boys like bfast at shittanys

ok i am just trolling at this point

Actually that's not true. I've met way more girls who like it than boys.

Oh crap, consider me TROLLED.

I paid the troll toll.

also wtf are you saying about aluminum on my poison lawn thread

Um. I was saying that RECYCLING PICK UP IS ON MONDAYS!!!

Tribute to Michael Jackson a Synth Question about "Bad"

Is it me...or does the drum pattern to "Beat It" by Michael Jackson sound like a CR-78 and not a Linn LM-1 drum machine.

For some reason these seem like parodies of some original M.J. music technology geek thread, but I don't actually want to open them and read them and find out.

Nor do I want to figure out what thread I should be expressing this thought in.

You would really like the recycling plant because they have aluminum there, too.

― bamcquern, Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:12 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:45 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

This guy is about to smoke the microphone!

― bamcquern, Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:12 AM (27 minutes ago)

That is my display name.

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:13 AM (26 minutes ago)

Carpathian Florist is a pretty funny display name.

― bamcquern, Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:25 AM (14 minutes ago)

I saw the cutest kitten today!! She was like a young Bernard, but I don't think her fur will grow as fluffy or dark. She had extra long tufts of fur behind her ears and she ran around a lot. What else about this cat? Hm. Oh, she was named Fern. A nice name.

― bamcquern, Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:26 AM (13 minutes ago)

What are you trying to say?

nothing, just cleaning up around here

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7250/black20metal20basement.jpg

blunked tbh

OIC

What does blunked mean? Does it mean getting high?

blocked

although we should start saying that

Yeah, I saw that they were invisible or whatever. I thought they added a little color!

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5332/roxyx.jpg

no, i cant see them, theyre blocked at work

imageshack is blocked

Ohhhh, I thought you were just talking about my aluminum posts on the metal thred.

Well, the one above you now is especially for you, and I hope you like it. The one above that one is all lightness and flowers and lolcats.

fried green tomatoes =

Obviously such a boy with my movie picks.

i just read a thing about how women overapologize

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 June 2009 13:55 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

please to make every girl i've ever known stop doing this please.

"please to" make everyone stop saying "please to" and u got yourself a deal

yes where did "please to" come from anyway???

I can work with that.

i got a sprite lip gloss and my mouth tastes like sprite

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:21 AM (6 hours ago) Boo

Of course you did and of course it does.

Never really liked the dr. pepper or any of those weird soda/candy flavored lip glosses tbh.

i have eaten my weight in salt and vinegar potato chips today iirc

― horseshoe, Sunday, June 28, 2009 1:09 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

continuing to josh me or what

haha i just feel like the "iirc" lends gravity to my banal observations

About apologizing:

I doubt you ladies do this to annoying amounts. Really doubt it. It's kind of in the range of slightly unhinged women (men?) who lack a lot of self-awareness.

But maybe you do do it that much.

I had a girlfriend who did this and I would say, "Stop saying 'sorry,' " and she would say, "I'm sorry!" Pointing it out did not seem to help.

There are other ways of being oversensitive that falls in the same category of acts as over-apologizing. The hedging your English thing somebody mentioned is one. Sometimes over-clarifying - being too accurate and particular - is another.

But as for the hedging your English - and Roxy and I have talked about this - this is cultural. If we said the words as we meant them, to other people they would mean too much. The benign wording of things comes across inadvertently strong to most people, and so we try to soften and mitigate and hedge with filler and hemming and hawing.

Ugh, I don't want to talk to that Jon Abbey guy over on the Ornette thread. Dude seems like an a-hole.

also impostor syndrome, where you feel like everything you've done is like a joke because everyone else has been working hard and you're just pretending to be smart, and people will find out any minute

― harbl, Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

I'm glad that someone admits to this, because I have often thought, "That person is very careful about what he or she does and doesn't say so that we think there's this entire secret, really intelligent clever being inside that head."

This isn't unlike how people work on memorizing and telling jokes, anecdotes and things - practice their banter and all that - so that they seem as if they're improvising all the time in conversation.

But the thing is

1. Some people are improvising
2. Practice your verbal skills is just working out one of your intelligences, and so then it must be asked, So what?
3. Wit (that improvising quality) is also an intelligence that can be exercised, too

So then maybe you can edit yourself, and maybe some people aren't as smart as you try to look (and some people are smarter than they let themselves seem due to their loquacity), but trying to appear intelligent just makes you more intelligent anyway.

i can't understand what you mean. i'm not saying people will find out because i AM pretending, i'm saying i feel like people think i'm smarter than i am. trying to appear intelligent is the worst and makes you look stupid.

Well, by what you've written I guess you sort of understood what I meant.

Although I think most of the time the "appearing more intelligent" part is accidentally done, which even further blends our attitudes about the whole thing.

Well, by what you've written I guess you sort of understood what I meant.

no, she is just pretending to be smart again!!!

Total impostor!

this is all way over my head

lol bamcquern it seems like you really want to be posting to the girls only thread, maybe you can ask rox for special dispensation??

cut your peen off and we'll talk

cut-off peens

bamcquern is coming off on this thread like a kind of weird hybrid of tuomas and [nabisco] imo

oops

i just like how every time the girls thread gets bumped this one gets bumped too with bams opinion on what the girls are saying

hahaha

It's a good example of how to meta in the best possible way.

he has really META THE CHALLENGE!!!!!

actual lols

bamcquern is coming off on this thread like a kind of weird hybrid of tuomas and [nabisco] imo

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:41 PM (10 minutes ago)

otm

What is tuomas like? I've seen that dude around.

Also: also actual lols.

Ugh. Harriet the Spy is one of my favorite books ever and I can't talk about it.

Also great:

Anne Tyler (A Slipping-Down Life, &c.)
Louis Sachar

You remember Pig City and all that?

Early Jerry Spinelli

Bridge to Terabithia is just a beautiful book.

Ellen Raskin! The Westing Game

E.L. Konigsberg

Favorite writer of lesbian erotica and also YA books: M.E. Kerr

And Paul Zindel, duh.

And Eleanor Estes!

we are talking about e.l. konigsberg right now tbh

How could I forget Paula Fox? One-Eyed Cat!

And It's Like This, Cat.

Cat books.

There are books that I've read once that were brilliant but they're lost. They usually involved divorced parents and New England or New York.

Kerr wrote a great book called Dinky Hocker Shoots Smack! It has a great cover of it for a hardcover edition that I've only ever seen in the Stoke Newington library.

Ugh! So painful.

Ok I'm lost now

"this thread smells like boys"

- my mom

― whiney g. gordon liddy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 June 2009 05:49 (6 days ago)

does your mom say stuff like that?

though we're now pretty good friends on facebook.

Don't do this with your lives.

They usually involved divorced parents and New England or New York.

I think I read a lot of these.

Also when I was in London I used to stay up late and watch bad American television which I guess the channels bought the licenses to because they were so cheap. One of the shows I watched was of Babysitter's Club. It was kind of entertaining! I only saw an episode and a half, probably.

To Sarahel: Yeah, they're usually the best. But Anne Tyler's were brilliant and set in the South and places like that. She crossed over into mainstream fiction and never crossed back, I think. Paula Fox did this, too, maybe.

dont BOSS us bamcquern

Waitaminute.

Oh, I found out where I was bossing you.

I'm urging, not bossing.

I am definitely only glancing over the SVH/BSC talk in the most cursory way.

<---boy

Also glad harbl is remembering her childhood.

lol

About apologizing:

I doubt you ladies do this to annoying amounts. Really doubt it. It's kind of in the range of slightly unhinged women (men?) who lack a lot of self-awareness.

OK, yeah. I don't think I do it to quite that extent. I mean, if we're aware that it can be an issue then we must not be doing it to that sort of extreme.

Me and Roxy've talked about this, I think, but did you guys all say "umm-umm-ummmmm" or something like it when people got in trouble, or you were trying to out people who should be in trouble? I talked to my Cambodian friend about this once, too, and she said that it's basically the same over there, except the syllable is slightly different.

A universal thing?

i know i've told you this, but yes, and we said "AH ah AHHHHHH!!!"

I don't understand the question.

youd have to hear it

Wellllllll.

When you're in kindergarten sometimes when someone is doing something bad, or someone has gotten in trouble, one or more people (sometimes a good hunk of the class) will start chanting, in a way - in my region of the U.S. it was like a chant-hum. In Roxy's region, it was this dull vowel near the back of the throat. There's a pretty specific rhythm to it that stresses and elongates the last beat of the chant.

the longer, the worse the crime

god, i can still remember how it sounded when so many ppl would do it

kids are awesome

xp is this like the "oooohhh someone's gonna get in trouble" thing, or something else? If I'm thinking of the same thing it was "oooooohhh" where I grew up.

It's similar to "oooooh," but a little different in its cadence. I say "cadence," but really "ooh" is just one long chant.

its like a diving oooooh that then rises again (in pitch and volume)

Hmmmm I am rly curious about this. Roxy can you please demonstrate at sefap 09?

sure, if you can wait that long

maybe i will make it my answering machine message and yall can call and hear it

A boy's take on Freaky Friday and Foxes:

Jodi Foster was hot.

Also some Runaway was in Foxes. Was that Adrian Lyne's first movie? Or someone like that.

i don't know foxes

what is the freaky friday lesbian connection btw (both jodie foster and lindsay lohan are now lesbians, connection?)

haircut talk A+

I'm John Edwards and I approve the girls only thread.
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/2007/0221/11073243.jpg

wait wait wait wait

TAB is a girls' thing now?

for girls and fags iirc

What about hetero men concerned about their weight and a cola that tastes good?

they drink diet coke as far as im concerned

tab tastes like battery acid, it is not for the weak

I've seen the twisting around method in action and it's really interesting to watch. It's sort of like when someone smokes a cigarette in an unconventional way. Thanks for reminding me of this!

So no TAB for hetero men because they are pussies. I can see that.

tab tastes like battery acid, it is not for the weak

OTM

a hetero man is among the pussiest of all species in re: 1. things that taste crazy (excepting spicy things) and 2. being sick

we are all pussies about things though, for instance hetero girls are pussies about, oh i dont know...

trying to think of something im a puss about

hm. well sometimes i get a little scared when i go into my apartment at night alone, but i mean, i go anyway and just take a bball bat into every room and then i feel good

About 1.

True of me, but naw all around otherwise. Take for example: Joseph. Also, Kurt once ate potato chips dipped in chocolate. Guys it all kinds of weirdness.

2. I'm pretty tough about being sick!

You are not a pussy about anything I can think of. But

I've met a lot of girls afraid of spiders. What's up with that? Spiders are so cool.

a potato chip dipped in chocolate is amateur hour!!! also joseph has many feminine qualities and i am willing to claim this as one

2. bryce...compared to whom?!!??!

many people of all genders and sexual prefs are afraid of snakes, which are not to be feared but rathered honored and respected

Haha about Joseph.

When did I get sick -- - Oh shit! I had prostatitis for six weeks!!!!!!!! C'mon! My wee!!!! Jesus, that's not fair. That's not the flu or something.

I was effing miserable.

Snakes? Non-gendered stuff there.

I'm not afraid of spiders, but I am afraid of bees.

I had a bf that was a total pussy about the sight of blood.

yeah i guess i knew you at a rough time where you were sick every 5 minutes with some or other bizarre illness

I'm afraid of a lot of things. I'd have to really have a think about them, though, to figure them out.

I'm afraid of girls, for sure.

Just Reiter's related shit. I'm not bad during a cold or flu. I've gotten less stubborn about admitting that I need help or need to rest when I'm sick because I try to be practical about getting better sooner.

i'm not afraid of spiders but i am afraid of cockroaches and when i see one i feel very alone

But snakes are cool, yeah. Snakes and bugs in general. And, uh, what else?

Oh, I'm afraid of cockroaches, but much less than I was four years ago.

Shit, harbl, you beat me to it.

That's interesting about feeling alone when you see a roach.

well it's something i would like other people, not me, to take care of

I learned pretty fast not to put my mom's bras in the dryer. They air dry so fast, anyway.

i am kind of traumatized by cockroaches from my first nyc apartment so now whenever i hear any random click sound i have a moment of panic but usually it's just something like the cord from my ceiling fan hitting the light or something.

I felt like I had some secret knowledge into how women operate learning that.

Yikes, tehresa.

Roach is a lol last name tho

Cockroaches are more common on the east coast, right? The only time I've ever encountered them was in a barn/warehouse where my mom worked, and we were actually looking for them, because I had to do a bug collecting science project in junior high.

i dunno!

it's weird living in a new area and seeing different 'guests' like now i see a spider every few days and i never saw spiders in new york!

poor harbl feeling alone!!

it's ok, the cat will protect her!

the click sound really freaks me out. maybe they are mostly east coast but also mostly toward the south. i never saw one in new york (the state). i did see one in ohio but it was a waterbug/oriental cockroach and those aren't scary because they're slow and can't fly.

I, uh, dunno. I think they're prevalent throughout North America. I thought it was interesting to learn that generally they live outside and come inside usually to hunt or scavenge. I guess in NYC things are very different. I wonder what it's really like to be a roach living in some wall. Or whether the roaches are different in NYC. Anyway, after this one roach freaked me out I read a lot about them and found out that it was a myth that they lived in your walls - again, must be different in New York. And also it is a myth about them carrying many diseases - they're pretty clean.

the big palmetto bugs are not common in the north at all, german cockroaches in nyc maybe

Which is scarier

German
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4818/germanroach04.jpg

or
American?
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5627/americanroachlg.jpg

palmetto bugs are the scariest savages imo

they hide in walls iirc

once i watched naked lunch and then i had really creepy dreams.

Yeah, hide in them and travel through them.

Scariest of all
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/861/brao.jpg

Are there young fashionable women brave enough to wear stack socks again?

roxy i kind of think you should just let bamcquern post in the no boys room

only ironically

xpost no

the bay area doesn't really have a lot of cockroaches.

Yeah, the geography is so different compared to NY. If you see them, it's probably with the same frequency that you would see them in the burbs. I think complaints about ants are more common.

Look at me, 'tended to be an expert.

'tendin', that is. sheesh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yap3gL16llE&feature=related

hissing cockroaches are...cuddly and lovable, almost. you can't find 'em outside of Madagascar, except as pets.

Wow. They don't look gross or creepy at all. I kind of want one now.

ditto. but I'm afraid my cat would either swallow it or get bitten by it, or both.

I think complaints about ants are more common.

Yep. Growing up we had lots of ants.

lol bildungsroman

the bay area doesn't really have a lot of cockroaches.

thank the good lord. tbh, giant cockroaches were the one thing i was most scared about before moving here.

Have you boy-crazy girls seen this? It was on the gif it and loop it thread.

http://i38.tinypic.com/21oymab.gif

<3 <3 <3

is that from the f&g disco and dragons ep?

I don't know what that is.

So I emailed this girl from my class. I have thought about girls all day. I have been going through a weird transition. I mean, I said I'd stop talking to my ex-gf (lol ex-gif) because it had been making me depressed (not her fault) and it was sort of mean and maybe unnecessary - all of this last night - but then I felt really lifted, really lightened. And I barely slept but I felt okay. Three rotten hours. And then I talked to some girl in my class, in my group, very casually, and emailed her asking her to be friends and introduce me to people given that she lives in E. Orlando and not far away. And I kept seeing girls - okay, two girls. A couple of girls a couple of times. What was special about them? I dunno. I bet the one was reading a stupid book. I didn't ask. I wondered where was that ilx thread about the dude who saw the other cute dude across the street and tried to get up the nerve to talk to him for no reason. And this other girl whose eyes caught mine a couple of times and I wasn't sure why I liked her except maybe her slightly large nose and the way she dressed. You have to blow these things up in your mind or you'll never meet anyone. But I didn't talk to her, either. I am a balloon.

hot air or reg balloon?

I don't know that it matters.

  ___
 /   \
|    |
|    |
\    /
 \  /
  \/
   ^
    `
     `
      |
       \
        ~~~~

Do you like It's on with Alexa Chung? I do.

i am not familiar with it!

that looks like a reg balloon filled with helium. good choice. fly freeeeeee.

you don't need no flame to push you along, nor do you bounce around sadly on the floor. you can float whimsically to your heart's content.

That's a good point. Maybe that's what I am, so that's what I'll try to be. I think I'll take a nap and when I wake up maybe at least some girl will have written me, but if one hasn't I will live.

bryce you and nabisco should get thug life style tattoos that say "tl;dr"

<3<3<3 that gif

nah i read bryce's posts whereas i mostly skim nabsie's

What does tl;dr mean?

A girl did write me. She wasn't a stranger, though. It was good for me anyway.

SO. Flann O'Brien. S'good, right?

working on an ascii of alexa chung atm tbh

wondered where was that ilx thread about the dude who saw the other cute dude across the street and tried to get up the nerve to talk to him for no reason.

That was Surmounter, if I remember.

there was a cute guy taking pictures outside his work, but i can't find the thread.

So roxy was reading my ascii balloon post and got down to the second forward slash and said When is this going to end? and gave up. And that unsightly acronym is in Urban Dictionary.

shocking

bzzztt

I have read some articles about studies showing that girls tend to be very confident until they hit puberty, at which point the Patriarchy Oppression Machine really kicks in and girls start to report feeling like shit/hating themselves. XP!!!!

― she is writing about love (Jenny), Monday, January 4, 2010 3:36 PM (7 hours ago)

this is seriously depressing me right now.

it's true.
it's all your fault.

I know :(

i, too, blame unregistered, i just didn't want to be the first to say it

i have no qualms about it.

I'm feeling very http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4303/9780374480790.jpg right now, to be honest with y'all.

what is that

er, the title of the book is a reference to scapegoating. good read!

it's not your fault unregistered, blame the system

If it's any consolation Unreg, I'm pretty sure you had absolutely nothing to do with the onset of my crippling self-loathing.

no, blame unregistered.

xpost

thx, that's a huge weight off my back.

also, ;_; and *hugs*.

― System, Monday, January 4, 2010 7:01 PM (4 hours ago)

I started a poll to ban the System, but I ended up getting banned.

what happened? i am confused.

then System tried to ban me for six days, as opposed to three ... but maybe I should blame Chaki as opposed to System.

finding that thread a very strange read and only just starting to comprehend that i will never ever really truly understand women no matter how long i live

Hey I'm a woman and I agree with you, so frankly you're fucked :)

or not fucked as the case may be :D

i don't understand women either karen

Hey, now. We ARE women. Maybe we don't understand "women", but women are another story, ie each other.

See also, my feelings about girls who claim they are bad at/don't like being friends with other girls.

i don't like being friends with other girls

My observation in college, which was the last time I "had" to be around girls I didn't really like, was that girls who say they don't like other girls either,

a) don't like or relate to a certain kind of "girly" girl and don't know any women who aren't like that or who they identify with, OR
b) don't like the competition for resources, ie attention -- probably male attention.

W/r/t option b, it is slightly hilarious to hear a woman say she has problems being friends with other women, like, "MAN, I just don't GET women" to her guy friends while simultaneously doing everything possible to undermine other girls who take a friendly interest in her or her social group. Orly?

(just popping in for a second to congratulate you all for scaring bam back into his cave; moving on now because I don't really have anything of value to add and no desire to offer misguided metacommentary on a thread I haven't read or the experiences of a gender I don't belong to)

that wasn't nice

what happened? i am confused.

(it wasn't very nice but bam creeps me the fuck out)

if women don't even understand each other, what hope on earth do men have?

answer, natch: 'women' is not a single cohesive amorphous mass but a hydra-headed beast of 3 billion heads and attempting to generalise is folly

silly newbie question: who is bam?

oh! the person that started this thread. never mind. bubbles for brains me

i doubt all men understand each other, frankly. did we learn nothing from 'itt a strange man asks you if you saw the ass on that one'? (ans.: yes)

human beings: their motives are strange and unknowable!

i was just being a petulant jerk tbh
i have some girl friends that are ok. i just don't understand ones who are frivolous and emotional and love 2 shop but some people do. i'll get over it someday nevermind

shopping: what is the deal with that?

u are kind of frivolous

i am coming around to girls a lot more the older i get but in my high school/college/immediate post-college years, they all just seemed really tedious and like drama magnets.

I'm frivolous and emotional and like shopping. Sorry.

*ignores max*

i like shopping.

it's ok if you like shopping i guess

i hate shopping except grocery shopping

i only like grocery shopping at places i can't really afford :(

i like shopping for books and records and drum stuff and functional things and clothes, sometimes.

i think of myself as basically liking girls more, but way more of my friends (including my closest friends) are male, so... I dunno. I guess I had very non-girly female friends in high school, so I didn't really associate frivolity &c with 'girls' so much as with 'girls i hate'.

i like record shopping and book shopping and grocery shopping if I'm on my own.

grocery shopping with other people is kind of my definition of hell, largely because no one wants to just go down the list, grab stuff and gtfo; there has to be discussion and "oh should we impulse buy this? should we impulse buy that?" IS IT ON THE LIST? WELL PUT IT DOWN THEN SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE

in general, unless I am in a bookstore or a record store (RIP), browsing = shopping hell

of course, I am not a woman, but this is a topic I can actually talk about

Yeah, sorry. It just sends my hackles up when someone says "WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH GIRLS ANYWAY?" and a bunch of girls rush to describe themselves in opposition to the criticism. (This is not to say that you can't point out how you are different from others! But in direct response to a criticism of the sex, it smacks of Stockholm syndrome.)

i had 2 roommates in college who were the best for doing girly things and also when it was cold we would hide under the blankets and eat pizza and watch the simpsons. that was fun.

tbh i think i find more things frivolous than i should is the problem. this is related to hatred of shopping. i am kind of an ascetic i guess.

of course, I am not a woman, but this is a topic I can actually talk about

― i accidentally touched the nub and it was squishy (HI DERE), Tuesday, January 5, 2010 12:20 PM (1 minute ago)

i think that's what this thread is about!

I was RSVPing to harbl, btw.

of course, I am not a woman, but this is a topic I can actually talk about

which of course means you should!

"oh should we impulse buy this? should we impulse buy that?" IS IT ON THE LIST? WELL PUT IT DOWN THEN SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE

YES, EXACTLY.

if it takes you more than a split second to decide whether or not to buy, then don't buy! it's as simple as that! stop comparing different brands of a thing we didn't even want this morning! ahhhhh christmas shopping with my momz, there.

i have practically renounced shopping since becoming an unemployed debt-ridden free adult. before that i would enjoy cd shopping. grocery shopping is a fact of life, not really shopping, n'est-ce pas?

but then i am not female. hang on what thread is this

oh and it's silly to choose whether to do something based on one's aversion/attraction to its assumed gender significance, obv

no one here does that iirc?

hi dere, I created a poll for us

Shopping

this is the meta thread for the no boys allowed in room thread - also a thread for Dan to be a dick.

I love shopping!!! I am just v v v selective about things I'm willing to spend money on, and how much. It's true that I don't want more general STUFF that needs to be dusted or taken care of, in my life. On the other hand, I feel like I'm an adult now and I want... a couch. And some decent dishes that weren't hand-me-downs with cracks in them (this is what I have now basically). And professional clothes that I like wearing, since I have to put them on 5 days a week for the rest of my forseeable life.

So I enjoy the ways in which having CERTAIN non-essential things makes my life better, I just want strict control of what those things are. Hence, shopping is A MISSION with a focus, and then you go home.

Oh wait that is probably better off in the new thread, NM.

xp - Laurel otm

yeah harbs i was agreeing with ppl upthread!

i'm sorry i used shopping as a stand-in for things girls are supposed to love that i hate

fine - let's talk about "frivolous and emotional" then.

*attempts to close can of worms*

it's silly to choose whether to do something based on one's aversion/attraction to its assumed gender significance, obv

i don't know that this is necessarily true? Or maybe it is precisely because it's silly that sometimes it's really fun. Sometimes the reason why you do something is cos it's really girly, or really blokey, and you're sort of getting satisfaction from looking at yourself from outside and going 'gender roles, bitches!'.

that's true

i mean the "or maybe" part

i dunno, i used to "hate" a lot more things and I had to ask myself why, and it ended up leading to me hating things a lot less.

horses for courses (ie no)

xp

There's nothing wrong with enjoying activities associated with gender roles; the problem crops up when you are expected to only enjoy activities traditionally associated with your gender. Choosing to conform still means that you got to choose and having a choice is what's important.

Hey, I just scored in the lowest ranges of "romantic" on the online dating site I was using. Like, "less romantic" and "more rational" than most of the guys I was being matched to.

So we all have our little "durrr, what do you mean, girls do this?" moments. I think the simple bottom line is, "Girls/boys/turtles do THIS, because I am a girl/boy/turtle and *I* do this."

i dunno i often wish to be freed from having certain "choices"

is this the new girls thread with added extra boys?

in which case uh awesome!

relates to above comment about being ascetic though prob xpost

get married.

uh not those kinds of choices

can we have a boys only thread where we talk about not liking traditional boy things like uh cricket maybe?

Not sure I get what you're driving at there, harble; are you talking about biophysical stuff or just making a general comment about how having options can also have its own associated drawbacks (ie, choice overload and subsequent paralysis) or are you expressing irritation at the way certain activities fall along gender lines and enjoying one while not enjoying another can be seen as being falsely transgressive?

xp: seriously though - when you're single you have a lot more choices - or feel like you do - than when you're married/in a relationship that for all intents and purposes was a marriage.

Karen - I think there's a board for that called ILM?

xps to csharp well, indeed! discussing the physical appearance of one's female peers for instance (although something I try to avoid) is something which I'll participate in when the discourse is especially and inescapably laddish. am getting better at not being in situations like these but it still happens occasionally. I guess there's even that sort of frisson about a lads' night in with a pile of westerns/noirs, which I've also done recently. although film is more interesting, and more gender-equal on the whole.

and going the other way, drag pageants are...fun

but everything listed here is at least a bit silly. sometimes silly is cool. as long as you know thyself and change things up every so often.

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Lolling at "lads' night" and "frisson" being used in the same sentence!

the jouissance of a good bro-down

the frisson of bromance.

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louis is not afraid to fuck with gender roles

louis is not afraid to fuck with gender roles

fixed

i just got shooed off ilm for not liking simon reynolds or something :(

i've been trying to explore gender preconceptions and how people treat you (esp on the internet) depending on perceived gender but it's just turning out to be a lot more complicated than i ever expected

i've never been the most manly-man but i'm not sure that i make a convincing woman either so i'm really trying to learn what the expectations of both 'men' and 'women' are so these threads are very interesting to me

i liked it better when we posted on the girls only thread

We still do! But you don't want these boys clogging up the place, so they can put queries/comments/dickishness here and we can be undisturbed on the other.

wait what karen is a dude?

lol nrq

karen i think most ppl here had you pinned as a dude within 3 posts, or fewer if they'd heard of the tuss

can we lock this thread

just fyi a lot of us did not peg "karen tregaskin" as a dude

srsly

surprise
i too am a dude

NO MORE INTERNET STALKING 4 U, "KAREN"

omg accidental buttsex max just 'pegged' me !!!!!

herstory womayne

can we delete the posts where Dan is a dick to Bryce? That seriously pissed me off.

i'm not a dude i just play one on the internet

i didn't know you cared <3

if roxy were still with us she would have locked this thread by now

harbl is a sockpuppet, as am I. This has been covered elsewhere.

max why don't you just go read another thread, there are plenty

but surely on ilx lowercase + no full stops = dude!

xpost okay except harbl.

this isnt about me harbl this is about 1p3, and dudes trying to get in on the girls-only action

it doesn't seem like any girls except you are bothered by dudes unless i'm mistaken

did u see what i did there

are u mad cause i called u frivolous or

i now see that max is a girl

this isnt about me harbl this is about 1p3, and dudes trying to get in on the girls-only action

fwiw this is why I started the shopping poll

dudes be starting polls!

no, i didn't think you were serious bc i'm not frivolous. i get mad at people who come on threads and say they hate the thread. not personally offended though. if this thread got locked i would not cry.

dudes be hunting and gathering data

honestly i thought if i hung out on an all girl thread long enough they'd start making out or something

j/k j/k j/k

dudes be insulting other dudes who have better things to do.

let it be made clear: i can't speak for anyone else here but i personally think that the girls only thread is brilliant. i came to post here because i like it and wished to express admiration not hatred! seriously

can karen and history mayne lez up plz

sarahel be obsessively harping on things no one else actually cares about

says the guy who has his own board for talking about the banal details of his life with his friends from highschool?

i don't really care i just found it to be bad form and not relevant to anything. trying to be nicer in 2010 and all. (it's hard)

y'all, simmer!

1. I didn't start that board. I took over that board.
2. I took it over with someone else.
3. Unlike you, I try to keep my banal boring bullshit confined to it as opposed to spreading it all over every subboard I can find.

You can continue to snipe at me if you want to.

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ok now i agree with max

will u guys stop fighting if i put on a dress and start making out with acoleuthic? pls?

thread 100% ruined

my dress is gonna be twice as pretty as yours

thank god for l0u1s jagg3r

id just like to point out that i was otm on this thread

thank god for max

that wasn't my money you were on when you pegged me max or do you need an anatomy lesson?

look at femtopia over there, the very essence of harmony and constructive chatter. now look at this bombed-out mess. i probably shouldn't read any literature about a woman-only society sans genocide, war and most crime. it'll just give me ideas.

alternatively, this revive has gone worse than it should have done :(

There's nothing wrong with enjoying activities associated with gender roles; the problem crops up when you are expected to only enjoy activities traditionally associated with your gender. Choosing to conform still means that you got to choose and having a choice is what's important.

but too too often, these choices tend to be be oppressive rather than liberating. a very narrow range of choices can be packaged as unlimited personal freedom, satisfying most people's desire for total control of their lives without actually offering them much control at all. it gets to the point where a so-called transgressive lifestyle becomes merely an alternative way of conforming to gender norms. a girl who presents herself as a tomboy isn't very liberated when the main reaction she elicits is, "girls who skateboard/argue about Simon Reynolds/climb trees are soooooooo hot." in this case the male gaze directs the way girls can express their "unconventionality", making it all but impossible to truly rebel against gender stereotypes. "choices" are not always choices, is what I'm tryin' to say.

not to mention that gender roles are just as restrictive if not more restrictive for males than for females

these mythical girls who argue about simon reynolds/circuit bend synths/climb trees are considered as 'sooooo hot' yet if you're male and you code female in some way - through choosing a female screen name or joking about pegging or wearing dresses etc - this seems to provoke a disdainful eeeeewwwwww reaction from both genders alike

You don't get an 'ewwww' from me! C'mere, sweetcheeks.

...in all seriousness, gender roles may seem more 'restrictive' for males, but I'm damn sure they're much worse for women. Women aren't expected to be chameleonic. They're often expected to be one thing, where a man or an advertiser can pin them down and exploit them. Men have always had more societal leeway to be different things at different times to different people.

Unregistered makes a very good point very well. It's all very well begging people to cast off their shackles but the very act of casting off can be a shackle. It's best to avoid shackles entirely. Which can be hard with a world of men/advertisers/other women wanting to put you in a place.

xp maybe you should have gone for Caster Semenya as a screenname then?

Women aren't expected to be chameleonic.

What??? Yes they are! Especially in connection with advertising and media. Women are supposed to be attractive romantic partners, caring mothers, supportive friends, effective workers and managers, as well as diligently improving themselves.

not to mention that gender roles are just as restrictive if not more restrictive for males than for females

these mythical girls who argue about simon reynolds/circuit bend synths/climb trees are considered as 'sooooo hot' yet if you're male and you code female in some way - through choosing a female screen name or joking about pegging or wearing dresses etc - this seems to provoke a disdainful eeeeewwwwww reaction from both genders alike

why is that though? I think most people are completely baffled that a sane man would want to give up a piece of his male privilege just to indulge in fashion or whatever. that which makes a man less masculine also makes him less powerful, and giving up one's power is practically a sin in our society.

the root of the problem is that behaviors associated with women are automatically coded as weak and frivolous, whereas male behaviors are coded as strong and ambitious. a woman who carries herself like a man (without coming across a lesbian) can only better her social status. a man who carries himself like a woman (which is always a gay thing to do) can only demean himself.

Those are all cliches! I think we have different standards of 'chameleonic' in mind. xpost

Yeah, Unregistered, that's kinda it. Men are generally allowed darker and more mysterious mysteries. Which is why when a woman has a dark mysterious mystery there's such a hoo-hah. They're analysed more.

I think these roles are relatively porous, so it's a bit more complicated - and a lot of that is due to the logic of capitalism, in a way. Men are now encouraged to indulge in fashion - to some extent - because they are people with money who can be sold products, and why should gender roles restrict a corporation's ability to increase profits?

this argument is boring
can we talk about something else

like babies or cooking

I mean, men who have weird, atypical hobbies are often celebrated. Women who have weird, atypical hobbies are often regarded as complete freaks. It shouldn't be like that.

i don't like babies

Then I have no idea what you mean by chameleonic, LJ!

i don't like babies either

i never have any idea what he means

i like babies.

yeah i think that women are expected to be madonnas, whores, supermums, virgins, dominatrices and social managers all at the same time and switch between them seemlessly while men just get to walk around being, well, whatever it is that they are

so long as that thing-that-they-are is recognisably male and not long-haired or bookish or sport-hating or dress-wearing or feminised in any way

though i suppose there are codified ways of being those things too?

x-posts isn't that one of the things that always trips up gender role discussion of transgendered people? that if it really were about socially 'trading up' why are male -> female so much more common than female -> male?

lets be clear here there is not an "ew" reaction to "posters with female names"

or for that matter to "jokes about pegging"

male -> female are more noticeable? One of my close friends is a female -> male.

there is an o_O reaction to "jokes about pegging that involve me for no reason" but

I'm saying that a man can slip out and do clandestine things with his Mason buddies/gang/strange friends and it can be part of who he is, but if a woman does this she's somehow a femme fatale/catlady/doomed crazy

...because male society is uneasy at the idea of women eluding their eye and leash

Karen, I think that men ARE allowed to be long-haired, bookish, sport-hating, within quite a few discourses!

great point, sarah (multiple xposts). but do you think people have more leeway w/r/t gendered behaviors in a business context than they do in a personal context? like, it might be acceptable for a man to make a career as a fashion designer without giving up his manliness. but if he takes on fashion as a personal hobby independent of money-making interests, he may very well hurt his reputation for being a man's man.