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Srsly my two roommmates who I have lived with for years asked me to move out.
Because I have been unhappy. And I've been unhappy because they are having guests over all goddamn summer long, and I'm sorry if that's made my grouchy, along with getting dumped & finding out my grandfather's dying, but you're going to kick me out over it? Without ever mentioning the problems to me beforehand? That is so fucked.

SO, anyone in NYC who knows of anything, let me know.

aww man dude I'm sorry.

WTF
so sorry, ian. that is straight bullshit. i will definitely let you know if i hear of anything.
are you on the lease? can they actually kick you out???

oh dude that totally sucks and your roommates are fucking jerks

i was on the lease but they renewed it without telling me that i was no longer on it wtf. (lease was just up a day or two ago.)

is there no empathy or compassion?
fuckin a man that is raw dog

woah woah wtf

these guys sound like douchetards to the nth degree.

Do they leave passive aggressive notes?

shithouse. nice premeditation w/the new lease too :(

yeah that is bullshit. like, instead of plotting all this behind your back, why not be mature and have a conversation about it? jeeeeze.

i was on the lease but they renewed it without telling me that i was no longer on it wtf. (lease was just up a day or two ago.)

I grew up in California & I smell a lawsuit

ian your roommates always seemed ok to me -- had no idea they would pull shit like this? ugh wtf

for serious, 2-faced bitches need to slip in a bathtub & die

sorry, ian.

you should go to the landlord, dogg

they do NOT leave passive aggressive notes.

So fucked up. I'd expect some kind of e-mail or sit-down talk about my "unhappiness" or rudeness or hostility or whatever, but before I could even say much abt why I'd been so grouchy lately (out of town guests esp.) they were just all "we want you to leave the apartment."

the landlord is a crepe tbh.

also yeah, aside from the past month or so i haven't had any major roommate issues. i just don't get it.

for serious, 2-faced bitches need to slip in a bathtub & die
srsly why i generally prefer to live/work with men. has been highly successful (with one or two exceptions).

wait are they women or are they dudes?

womens.

yeah i am a little O_O
it's been ages but the one i met seemed totally normal and not bitchfaced like this at all!

you should ask them where in the lease that it specifies that you have to be happy

is it something you feel like fighting, or is it not worth it?

that's ridiculous :(

i was on the lease but they renewed it without telling me that i was no longer on it wtf. (lease was just up a day or two ago.)

― ian, Monday, August 3, 2009 7:32 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is just amazingly and unbelievably immature

I tried to tell explain that if they'd be willing to compromise on some issues that it would be possible for me to be much happier, friendlier and a better person to live with but they had no interest in exploring that idea.

so unfuckingbelievably pissed. the cost of moving alone is prob more than i can handle, much less the excruciating search for a place that is a) not miserable and b) affordable.

did you put down any sort of security deposit? i.e. do they owe you money for kicking you out/taking you off the lease?

i did pay security when i moved in but that was like 5 yrs ago and i have no doubt that my landlord will try to fuck me out of it.

No, but if your roommates have taken you off the lease and are evicting you, then they should return your security deposit.

that's true, yes.

i would throw around the phrase "explore my legal options" if they refuse to do that

not a bad idea.

definitely stay until you find something ... don't be in a huge hurry to go. It's actually a major pain in the ass to evict someone if they don't want to go.

i was on the lease but they renewed it without telling me that i was no longer on it wtf. (lease was just up a day or two ago.)

― ian, Monday, August 3, 2009 7:32 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

call 311 theyll connect you to the housing people - im suspect yr landlord/roommates violated the law by not offering you the option to renew the lease - you might be in a position to negotiate something thatll make yr move to a new place much easier

yeah, i'm kind of freaking out abt it honestly cuz if i do stay, the longer i stay, the more unbearable and uncomfortable it's going to become.

thanks for the headz cr?m.

Aw Ian I'm so sorry to hear about this, that blows!

yeah def check that out - i had some minor beef w/my landlord abt lease renewal and was fascinated to find out abt all the wonderful laws on the books out there

yeah iirc ny state is pretty friendly toward tenants!

yeah, it's really up to you how much stress you want to deal with w/roommates in this regard. Totally understand if it's too much grief, but they should be paying you something, and that would presumably make having to move less stressful.

or just negotiate for like 3 months free rent so u can save up some $$ to move

definitely ice cr?m's idea about contacting housing people/tenant's law center type place is a good first step.

i'm just unbelievably pissed & blindsided by this; i thought i was the one with legitimate complaints!

it was funny when i talked to them i ended up defending my landlord like oh u know hes actually a pretty nice guy and they were all really would a nice guy try to fuck around w/yr lease like that

yeah i don't know wtf happened here. one minute laura is telling me she talked to the landlord and they're not gonna raise the rent, and next thing i know i'm not on the lease and it's already been renewed.

a bitchfest is what happened here.

man what a shitty situation. over here all parties need to sign off on changes to a rental agreement, possibly to avoid situations like this i'd assume! as much as it'll be a pain to move i'd say you'd be better off away from a couple of schemers like that, ian.

estela know what up.

This is FUCKED. I have liked all of yr roommates and thought they were your FRIENDS and wouldn't do anything like this. So confusing, and so shitty. I hate to say it, but it makes me wonder if they have someone else lined up. Not that that would be the reason for bringing up yr unhappiness, but maybe it's the reason for them not being willing to discuss further. Definitely pursue some help/legal options here.

How much notice are they giving you? Last time I got two months' notice and managed to be out in 1, which was good. But yeah, the atmosphere was pretty unpleasant for that time.

yeah it definitely sounds like they decided they wanted someone else to live with them and are grasping for a bullshit reason to kick you out/not discuss it.

they HAVE to give you notice and your security. if you are no longer on the lease, i'd think the landlord has to pay you your share of the security you paid him/her. either that or the parties now on the lease are responsible for covering it. but either way, someone must pay up.

as in, you weren't in violation of any terms, etc, so there's no reason they could withhold the security.

I called 311 and they said they're going to send me a pamphlet? fat lot of good that will do.
sara suggested september 15th as move out date but tbh i'd like to be out sooner.
if i can find a roommate i have a line on a $1500 2br that my friend dave owns.

i was thinking someone else lined up as well, some squee "it's gonna be great!!!" plotting and a bitchfest to rationalise it.

Okay! That's something...surely a roommate is a thing you can find?

its worth being understanding of their pov - obvs its difficult living w/anyone and for whatever reason u all werent getting along - on the other hand they totally deserve to be held accountable for their weasely tactics

"ladies im sorry you feel this way and i sure wish youd just come to me and discussed this so we couldve worked it out all civilized like - however now that youve forced my hand..."

fyi ian--i hate your roommates

"i'm sorry it had to come to this but you've put me in a very difficult situation..."

tbf i have been unhappy and vaguely hostile lately, but that's no excuse for not talking to me abt it esp when i've tried to broach the subject of the unhappiness with my roommates--fwiw here is the e-mail i sent to her yesterday when i was upset abt a guest still being here--

The length of time you have guests stay over, and the frequency with which you have guests stay over, is totally inappropriate and very intrusive.
I asked really nicely before if you could not have guests so frequently, but since then it's been a few solid weeks of guests. A few days ago I had to let Adam #2 into the apartment at midnight because he couldn't manage to unlock the door. When the first Adam visited, there were several days during the week when I had to go to work without showering or brushing my teeth because he was in the bathroom.

Please try to limit guest visits to a night or two in the future, and not more than once or twice a month. Anything beyond that I think is abusing the common space of the house. Thanks.

A bitchfest seems weird cos I know Ian has been on good terms with them for years. That's what made me think maybe there's someone else. But whatevs. When events force you to make some change happen, sometimes it ends up way better and you were just avoiding doing the work to get there. And by "you", I mean "me".

that's a totally reasonable email

Esp since you have apparently had all of humanity in your place, enough to start repeating names at least at the beginning of the alphabet. What's next, Brian #2 and Connor #2?

This is the most lowdown thing I've heard of in a long time -- good luck, ian.

eh ian try calling 311 again to get another operator - maybe call during business hours - when i spoke w/them the guy was v knowledgeable and helpful - or maybe try to find a free law center or something - its really worth it to talk to someone who can walk you through this stuff

and especially since moving is expensive try to figure out what leverage you have and use it to get some free rent or a buyout or whatever - however uncomfortable this is for you it is equally uncomfortable for them so theyll prob be looking to end this situation as soon as possible

real sorry to hear this ian

just plz dont give into their bullshit cause theyre making you feel bad - thats what they want - fuckers

snap yourself into cool, logical, calculating, looking out for #1 mode

i am into passive aggressive "watching the dark knight in the living room" with the lights off & door closed mode.

Your roommates sound like jackasses. Sorry you're going through this. I'm not familiar with New York law, but ice cr?m's idea is good -- look into state statutes and local ordinances to assess your leverage.

i would at least talk to the landlord and ask him/her why he renewed the lease without everyone who was on the lease! that seems really strange. i mean, did they tell him/her that you were moving out and not to worry about it???

i have no idea what they told him.
what is rent like in greenfield? need an employee? will live in basement.

i wonder if their new person is on the lease?
i know that in my old apt, i moved in mid-lease, and we just switched out my name/info for the previous tenants when it was time to renew. but my landlords were also idiots.

rents are cheap! come on up. i will give you your own spot to sell records in.

according to them only one of them is now on the lease.

i could prob live off my record collecting for a while...

Ian, my sitch was also stressed and bad but once I found an "out", I wasn't bothered by the drama anymore. It was interesting how quickly my viewpoint changed from "FUCK no one likes me, I failed at this, I hate you, now I will panic" to "Hello, there, roomate who doesn't like me! This is your problem and not mine, plus I have something better, so fuck you! Oh, did you want to shower now? Sorry!" I was wishing I could have felt the latter long before, but I got trapped by other people's expectations. But it's all perspective, really. When you feel solidly like you have some options, maybe try to reject their vibe? It's not much but it could make your last month/weeks a lot better.

ugh. ideally i will find someone else i know who needs a place to live & i will move into the railroad apartment in ridgewood that my friend owns :\

Yeah but if you get them to give you the two weeks of Sept free or something, it could be worth your while to stick it out. I know, I know....

is yr place rent stabilized ian?

sorry dude

sux

i do not think we're rent stabilized but honestly i don't know.

dude, that sucks. IIRC NYC laws are skewed heavily in favor of tenants' rights, and if you are living somewhere it's very hard to force you out (as long as you're working the system). try to contact a tenants' rights organization maybe? where are our literal board lawyers when you need them?

I have a vindictive history when it comes to asshole roommates, so maybe I'm not the best one to advise... but I'd drag your feet moving out, especially if it fucks with plans they have for a new person to move in. of course you've got to have a strong stomach for unpleasant situations but revenge is a dish etc.

yeah, i plan to call tenants rights ppl tomorrow. kind of weird tho cuz i'm not really being fucked over by the landlord so much as i am by the roommates. still just astonished this is such an abrupt thing! they had never mentioned anything to me. it was clear things were getting tense, but i was attempting to address that via my e-mail above.

the ny attorney general should have a tenant's rights pamphlet online (probably the same thing they said they'd mail to you, wtf) that would be worth looking at and less confusing than just plain old statutes and regulations, even just to give you a vague sense of direction so you know what to ask people about on the phone.

www.oag.state.ny.us/bureaus/real_estate.../tenants_rights_guide.pdf -

oops

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/bureaus/real_estate_finance/pdfs/tenants_rights_guide.pdf

yeah that, my internets is too slow to google. does it have those three dots in it though ; )

xp lol

This would be such a stressful situation to be in. How many nights a month did they have someone over? Really, people don't even have to be sleeping over, because if someone's at your apartment for four hours that's as good a de facto overnight guest for all the space (and possibly resources) they take up.

I would probably start getting intense rushing to the head until I eventually started crying one day if I were in this situation.

also, I'm know nothing about these people and I'm sure they heartless bitches, but consider that women can get very nervous about their personal safety living with men who are displeased and vibing at them. I know you wouldn't hurt a fly and yr email was totally reasonable, but what might seem like "I'm grumpy" to you might come off like "I'm mr timebomb" to them. have you been wearing a lot of camo around the house?

wow, I should learn something about verbs' rights, they have a right to agree with nouns and shit

grammar doesn't count on 1p3

it multiplies

1p3, now with extra verbs

This would be such a stressful situation to be in. How many nights a month did they have someone over? Really, people don't even have to be sleeping over, because if someone's at your apartment for four hours that's as good a de facto overnight guest for all the space (and possibly resources) they take up.

Uh, my roommate laura has had guests over at least two of the last three weeks, as well as a week-long guest in june.

and to respond to Ed's comment, this is the vibe sara suggested--that they were uncomfortable confronting me because they were afraid i would "snap."

ALSO, i have been out of the apartment for most of the last two weeks. First in Rhode Island where I was visiting my terminally ill grandfather and then I was dogsitting last week and only home briefly, spending most of my nights at my friend's place where the dog was.

it's pretty weak though. as someone who 'passive aggressive housemate' could describe even generally, whether or not one was talking about what i am like as a housemate, it sucks that you get edged into non-communicative anger because you don't wanna be hassling/putting up with shit all the time -> you slouch around a while -> you get kicked out for being slouchy. it's like the whole 'pick up the gun' thing. that they made it into a putsch is the depressing thing.

and to respond to Ed's comment, this is the vibe sara suggested--that they were uncomfortable confronting me because they were afraid i would "snap."

"so we evicted you behind your back!"

you should totally start wearing camo around the house

Yeah, this is more like they were afraid to discuss/confront Ian's anger head-on because they were aware they would be at fault and felt too guilty to initiate the conversation. And then he went away for a while and they thought, oh hey, if he's NOT HERE we never have to HAVE that conversation! which is a fucking sham of a sop to the conscience.

And I say this as someone who abjectly fears conflict at home and will put up with a lot that should be aired outright because I don't like to cause unrest. But c'mon. He's your FRIEND.

reign in blood 24/7

remove all knives from the kitchen, when they inquire, respond "they're being professionally sharpened"

sorry about this, pal. Wish I had some substantive advice. If it was 2 months ago, I might jump at moving into your friend's place for that rent, and then you'd really be up the creek...

yeah iirc ny state is pretty friendly toward tenants!

I've heard this, relative to the rest of the country. But it's not how I felt when NYS got me nothing but a delay when my landlord tossed us all outta the Park Slope building.

(of course that took over a year)

haw, i'd live with you in a heartbeat bill! i'd learn so much about movies! and you'd learn so much about uh.. me!

i am srsly just flabbergasted about this whole situation. a combination of shock, feeling hurt, and confusion all wrapped ina a fog of anger.

you got sb'd from your apartment

:( not funny

walk around in the nude until u move out imo

not a bad idea. the only reason i wear a shirt indoors during the summer iz because i know it bothers my roommates when i do not do so.

also play your most "out there" music constantly & really loudly. passive aggressive back at them

dude it's not abt being passive aggressive. up until this happened i was trying to talk to them so that my living experience could be more pleasant.

yeah, but they went there and are kicking you out. seriously, just kidding but don't be "mindful" of their concerns, just treat the place like it was yours since they are freezing u out

there's a boredoms vs AMT poll goin' atm, i say investigate this query to its fullest :)

gotta go pantera i.e. fucking hostile

condolences from britain btw, this is shit and unfair on a scale i can't imagine

srsly just show them what unhappy and hostile REALLY looks like

I think they "snapped" before ian did.

eh i really dont think its a good idea to make this more painful than necessary - its imo in yr self interest to not alienate them - you can all make each others lives v difficult from here on out but whats the point

yeah, get outta there whenever you can.

but first make them pay you

I know in Texas that it's not legal.. You have to sign an addendum to be taken off the lease. You should check and see about your state laws.

seriously ian, from somebody who's been in a similar position, gtfo pronto. there's no way to fix this. getting confrontational can make it worse (cops can be called), trying to be palliative means you kiss a lot of ass, feel bad about yourself and probably the same outcome. Just set a reasonable two week goal or something and get out as quickly as you can. it'll save you lots of needless headache. I know its unfair and shitty and it sounds like the worst answer but really, sincerely, I really think you'd be doing best by yourself if you just vacate the premises and the problem.

there's no "right" in this situation, there's just pain and nastiness. try and escape that shit and it'll serve you well

imo theres pretty clearly a wrong in this situation that deserves to be clarified - its not good to let yrself be taken advantage of and its not good for the perpetrators to take advantage of you either

getting out asap is def. my top priority. i can be out within the week if i can find someone to move into this place with me.
otoh, yes, it seems very very shady that i was removed from the lease without my knowledge. hopefully talking to a housing lawyer or aid person will make that aspect of the situation clear.

not arguing that there's not a "Wrong" just that there's no "Right"; no way to fix this satisfactorily other than nuking it from orbit

I hope you find a nice roommate this time

i've been living with this girls for 4-5 years (depending; lived here longer than one of the two.) and considered them friends, despite my frustrations with them. I don't think I ever behaved in an irrational manner in my dealing with them, short of maybe being distant/weird or a bit surly lately.

not arguing that there's not a "Wrong" just that there's no "Right"; no way to fix this satisfactorily other than nuking it from orbit

― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Monday, August 3, 2009 11:24 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i know im saying this over and over but some sort of buyout to ease the financial and psychological hardship of moving would provide some measure of satisfaction

hey ian sorry for the facetiousness :(

situation seems bleak to you at the mo but I have faith you're gonna end up in a much better place than you are right now

(sending good vibes in yr general direction)

maybe you're right icecream, but my experience in similar situations is that if it's reached the level where they're trying to kick you out, the only way to do that is to litigate and now you're spending all your free time and emotional energy dealing with it.
i moved into an apartment when I first came to the city, redid it top to bottom, put new flooring in, painted walls and ceiling, bought furniture to fit the room. After three weeks, lease holder bounced me out as untrustworthy. Cops were called, twice. Total disaster. I was in the middle of a severe depression too. And just lost my job. The more distance i got from that crazy situation, the better off I was.
living well is the best revenge and all that.

in any case, sorry it's a shit storm ian; happy to buy you a drink and take you to a show whenever.

i don't even understand how it's reached this level is part of it--just a very wtf situation.

According to the tenant's rights pamphlet i am reading online, the tenant "is subject to eviction at the end of the lease term." i have not received any notice of eviction, and in fact had been led to believe that we'd agreed to renew the lease with no rent increase. does anyone know what my options are here? i know this is probably fighting a losing battle, but I don't want to ignore any possible recourse I may have (at least as far as not having to pay rent for this apartment & i am a leaseholder for, for this month while i try to move out.)

well u already dont have to pay rent for the month visavis yr security deposit - but that certainly does sound like you shouldve received some sort of notification

i moved in in the midst of the previous lease and iirc paid my security directly to the previous tenant--which means i probably don't have that option legally?

sounds like you bought the deposit from the last tenant right - so the landlord is still holding a security deposit one third of which you own - i think in general its best to think abt things like the security deposit and the legalities as bargaining chips - this is never going to make it to court - what you want is to be bought out - and of course the biggest leverage you have is that youre still in the apartment - and its v difficult if not impossible based on how they dealt w/the lease for them to make you leave

i appreciate your input, dude. tbf i'm confused because in the tenants right pamphlet it states that the tenant has the right to renew if the apartment is rent stabilized (assuming mine is but honestly not sure.) however, i was led to believe by my room mates that we were going to renew, so it's not as though the landlord didn't, in fact, offer the renewal.

so you stay there - you stop paying rent - you make them aware of the legal situation (obv the particularities of this make a big diff but it sounds like yr in a pretty good situation legal wise) - and you demand three months rent to leave - you end up negotiating down to 2 months or whatever and you move

i mean thats what id do - pending of course finding out exactly what my legal rights are

sorry ian, what a terrible situation

i really can't believe someone would do this, AND that a landlord would go along with it. i wonder what they told him...

prob just told him ian was moving out

well, it looks like i have a lot to do tomorrow.
-speak to tenants rights people.
-speak to the landlord
-write e-mail telling my roommates how disappointed and hurt i am by their decision to fuck me over.
-respond to more craigslist ads looking for roomies

from a legal standpoint yr roommates are irrelevant in this situation - you had a contract with the landlord. your rights as a tenant and his obligations to you are governed by the law. he could be in deep shit for renting out an apartment you are inhabiting without notifying you.

yr to-do list is 100% in the right order.

this sucks, sorry to hear about this dude.

hey ian this is a ways out but come october i (and ari probably) might be looking for a place. let me know if you dont have something in place by then...

Oh, ian, how horrible!

Probably totally irrelevant at this point, but did the landlord know about all the frequent guests? Some leases have rules about these things.

ian, you have my sympathy. Housing troubles suck but it's worse when 'friends' turn out to be douchnozzles.

Ian, I'm pretty sure yr building is rent-stab because it's got over a certain number of units (I think the minimum is 6 or something) and hasn't been substantially renovated and doesn't qualify as luxury housing. You should be good to go, on that point.

Guys I am so fucking upset by this.

i'm sure, it's upsetting just to read about!

housing issues are incredibly stressful when you're fully in control of the situation. (moving, only less stressful than getting a divorce, is that right?) having something like this dropped on you when you are already feeling low is particularly cruel. the way you describe it, your roomates are kicking you out of your own home because you weren't sunshiney enough about all the people they had crashing there. that's morally gross and probably illegal as well.

i don't know what to tell you other than ilx is pulling for you

thanx guys.
i'm going to contact the landlord today.

ian, i'm not clear on why, besides financial issues with moving, you would want to pursue the option of staying there

that would be uncomfortable for everyone, would it not

no no no i'm not trying to pursue living there, i'm trying to figure out if i'm entitled to anything considering i was never given the option to renew the lease and my name was taken off the renewal with neither my knowledge or consent.

just a shot in the dark, but I doubt there's gonna be monetary compensation there; most likely just the option to be put on the lease.

i'm curious to hear what your housing lawyer has to say.

i don't see what you'd be entitled to besides the security deposit

but i haven't researched the law on this, am not housing lawyer

u r a horsing lawyer tho

were the other two hoes individuals on the original lease, that you were on? if not, it's pretty clear that they are new residents, and you are no longer one i.e. it's just like you moved out and someone else moved in i.e. you are entitled to your security deposit

but that's more a kneejerk ethical reaction, not a legal one. your meeting w/ experts is the right course of action

xxps

The three of us were on the lease.
They renewed the lease without my knowledge, leaving only one of them as a legal tenant.

I've established with them that I am not paying rent this month, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do about being fucked over by the landlord/roommate conspiracy.

good to hear that youve got a rent-free month

you should post their names here so when prospective employers / boyfriends google them they can learn what sneaky minxy behaviors they think they can get away with

and yeah even if theres no legal basis id fight for a portion of the security deposit anyway on uhhh makin those jerks feel bad grounds

they seemed so nice the 1 time i met them... i hope they didnt kick u out becuase u traded me a bong

my guess is that best-case-scenario, you get them kicked out of the apartment; not sure if that's an outcome you even want?

that's the thing that reeaaaallly bugs me abt this, is that i do (or did) consider them both good friends until this shit happened! i had no idea they were so unhappy living with me.

its not that he entitled to anything particularly - its what he can negotiate - basically the question to his roommates is how much will you pay to end this shit situation you started

Ian, this sucks. I'm very sorry to hear it and I'm glad you're pursuing legal advice to minimize the fucking-over.

what's funny about this is i know one of the roommates AND the landlord!

funny to me, at least.

^masterminded the whole opperation

;)

It really fucking bums me out to read of people pulling this shit on a fellow like yourself, Ian. Sorry I have nothing more than that to offer, I really wish I could do something to help.

count me among the people who've met ian's roommates and are also surprised & thoroughly disappointed. i bought one of them dinner when she was in providence ffs! i guess i've been a bit glib on this thread but i'm just amazed at how this shit went down.

yeah l@ur@ lost herself a facebook friend this morning

<3

good news: got a lead on an apt mere blocks from my work "with a bunch of dudes" for under $600. not a big room but apparently lots of basement storage. co-worker's girlfriend is moving out in a week or so.

probably gonna check it out tonight.

good luck, ian -- thinking of u

yes, good luck ian!

Awww then I wouldn't see you taking the bus anymore.

tbh i just want to get outta my current bullshit sitch, even though i love love love prospect heights so much more than williamsburg.

yo ian just to jump on the bandwago: you are a completely awesome bro and this behavior on your roomies' part is really bizarre and lame (and wtf because they seem(ed) nice) and they suck and you rule

it's a tough situation, because you have more financial leverage while you're there, and less if you leave promptly.

eh, i don't care about getting too much more than a month's free rent, which will help save for inevitable security deposit on the new place.

if that month's free rent is equal to or more than the security deposit, then that sounds like a fair deal.

iirc the security i paid was equal to one months rent 4 years ago, which was actually $75 or so cheaper than the rent is now so.

hope you get what you want here, bud.

A few days ago I had to let Adam #2 into the apartment at midnight because he couldn't manage to unlock the door. When the first Adam visited, there were several days during the week when I had to go to work without showering or brushing my teeth because he was in the bathroom.

If I wasn't lucky enough to be roommate-free since '95, I'd have fled NYC long ago bcz of shit like this. (tho i would've pounded on Adam #1's door.)

morbz, wait until you take in an adorable little girl and her single mother. then you will discover the true meaning...of love.

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I am way more Klugman than Randall, ask anyone who's seen my apartment.

Reading all this fills me with impotent rage, Ian. What a pile of piss, and especially out of the blue from two so called FRIENDS.

If it was me, I'd probably at least approach them just the once and say 'what happened? I'm confused', cos I'd be mad as hell and very hurt. Hope you can work it all out with minimal animosity.

Fuck those bitches tho.

reading this as just some guy, this is heartbreaking! :(

If I wasn't lucky enough to be roommate-free since '95, I'd have fled NYC long ago bcz of shit like this.
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except i mean roomie-free since 04. get u a girlfriend

The place I looked at last night was decent. The room is SMALL and does not have a window, but it is v cheap and a 15 minute walk from work. Also, there's a back yard, the kitchen seems decent, and it is cat friendly. i've started moving small things out of my apartment, planning to pack all the books & records tomorrow. not sure what to do with them. thinking about putting everything in the basement at work and/or my friend b0nnie's basement. but then i'd have to move stuff twice, if i do move into this place or wherever i move. if i move into this place tho i'll probably have to leave a lot of books/comics/etc in storage. the place has a basement which i can use, in addition to the two basements listed above.

i haven't felt this shitty in a long time :\

good thoughts in your direction dude. Maybe I can buy the comix off you? You're always welcome to come read em.

i mean, if you really want the comics i'd be happy to try working somethin' out, but i have a lot on my plate at the moment and wouldn't be able to deliver them.

no, it's all good. I'm mostly looking to be helpful.

Ian, I know a heavy metal guy with a van who you can hire. He doesn't do any lifting, but he watches the van while you load in. If you wanted to use him to move records to Bonnie's house, that would be fast and pretty easy.

Prob you could get him to to drive you from your house to B's for like $30. If you want help carrying boxes on Saturday day, I am avail.

i think my all time bro mike hunchback is going to help me move shit out sunday w/ his van. tomorrow i pack all books & records, sunday move some things to bonnie's and some to my work.

i'm meeting the roommates at the potential new place tonight, so it's possible i could begin moving things directly into the basement there before i start living there, but i don't know.

just say the word, bro, and i will collect some nasty footlong hollywood roaches and mail them in an amazon gift box to these passive-aggressive dipshits

Ian hope this works out okay. Back in June my flatmates decided to move out, completely out of nowhere, even tho we'd resigned the lease in March. They said they wanted to live somewhere cheaper but you still kind of think "was it something I did." I can totally relate to feeling like you're the one with grievances and people just bailing before ever sitting down to talk about stuff, not even opening things up to the possibility that they might be annoying you.

For me the landlord basically said he wasn't giving them their deposit unless the moved during a break in the lease and so they had to stay until September. Anyway it looked for a few days last week like landlord was going to sell the place as a result of them going, which would have forced me to leave. Luckily he changed his mind.

It sucks to have to think about upheaval and stuff, hope it goes smoothly.

Recommend you put your stuff on a pallet or on top of some waterproof Tupperware storage boxes at B's. That place has been known to occasionally flood.

yeah she mentioned that Laurel--we have plenty of pallets at work. Thanks for the heads up tho.

I feel so bad for my kitty. I moved him into Keegan's today and he just follows me around like a lost little man. And I'll have to move him again, at least twice. To somewhere for next week, and then (fingers crossed) on the fifteenth into new apt. I think next week my co-worker/friend Erin is gonna take him, and that's only a few blocks from here, but poor guy! I will miss him so much for that week while I am sleeping at the store (cat can't live at the store cuz the store cat is a violent motherfucker.)

BTW, meeting with new roommates postponed til tomorrow but talking to my friend who's hooking me up it looks like if they are cool with me I might be able to start moving stuff into their basement as soon as this weekend, which would be a huge help.

Yr good people Ian, I hope this all works out ok for you <3

I meant to go to my apartment to pack today but moped around and fell asleep on the couch instead.

Okay, so meeting potential roommates fell through tonight too, and the guy I talked to on the phone said they were having "people" over Monday & Tuesday. So I am much less optimistic now.

did you get the email i sent about a room in the slope? not an ideal place i think, but maybe good for a while til you found something else/roommate?

I did tza, thank you.
It looks like I might be moving into this place near the Lorimer L where ROSS lives, in a strange coincidence. Ally sent me his contact info, and it happened to be the same apt that my co-worker's girlfriend was moving out of. So I'm hoping for that. I guess I meet the other roommate on Tuesday and then the decision gets made.

oh wow woah!
that place has a nice yard and i think i remember his roomies being cool :)

yeah, the yard is nice. room has no window but it's cheap & close to work, so. also: huge basement.

you'll be OK, hugz.

good news. something will work out!

I spent a few hours packing today and I feel a little better. Still overwhelmed at the sheer amnt of garbage i have. eight boxes of books?!?! three boxes of graphic novels?? birthday cards from three years ago, all these CDs i haven't touched since i moved in, magic cards!!... so much stuff to bum me out too. agghhhhh. going back tomorrow morning to pack more, then move the first wave of crap out into the store's basement. pulled out an almost full box of records to sell.. will probably get less discriminating at the month wears on.

welcome to my world

(books aren't garbage, i abstain on G-novels)

i love books, every time i move i love them a little less

yeah i left at least a full box on the curb last time.

I have found a room, and it is in Williamsburg, and hopefully the fourth roommate does not have a dog or else my cat might be traumatized but, you know how things are.

Break a leg, ian.

(probably gonna have a book & record sale fyi.)

glad you found a place ian!!!

congrats on new life!

yeah, i hope my kitty cat adjusts okay.
and forks, i will e-mail u a list of graphic novels i'm selling once i unpack them, if you're interested. the singles will probably marinate in the basement of the store for a while though.

mazel tov

i am more or less moved in, and mostly unpacked.
we are having a party next saturday--hello new roommates, goodbye old roommates.
ilx is invited.
would a mod change the title of this thread to reflect this change?

btw if anyone can explain to me why i have so many records and what i need them for that would be great kthx.

i'm blown away that you were able to get kicked out and find a new place in the span of a week.

give ilx your old address and everyone can order a pizza to be delivered there

right place/right time, hoos-- my co-workers gf just moved out of this room, and another of the roommates is a friend of some local ILXors. if this fell through it would have been WAY harder. moving in NYC is this complicated process involving credit checks, references, interviews & bank statements.

btw i am chillin in my new back yard right now with some beer & weed & i can get the wifi signal from the house--sick.

Yay, ian! How is your kitty doing?

oh MAN.... he was hiding this morning when i got up and i couldn't find him for approx two hours; i was freaking out. walking around the block, yelling his name in the back yard, shaking a bowl of food etc. so i come back in from the backyard like 10 minutes before i have to go to work, and he is just sitting on my bed like "what up dude?" i think he must have found a really good basement hiding place. the dog scares him & makes him agitated, but when i am home he usually hangs with me in my room.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH

BEER AND FUN

in that order

aw, miss u guyz

have an awesome time and super congrats, ian!

give ilx your old address and everyone can order a pizza to be delivered there

― omar little, Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yes plz, except i will send j's witnesses instead

i will send the hipster grifter

lol
guyz i'll post more info as it becomes available re: partay, but it will be saturday around say 9-10 pm start time (or at least for me, i work til 8) and will probably involve grilling & beer. new address is 424 r0dn3y st.

happy for u, boy

congrats dude, sounds like you made the best of a rough situation. wish i was swinging by nyc next weekend.

btw congrats dude. glad you're happy. you really got fucked over in your old situation and deserved better, which it seems like you have? anyway, dope shit

sorry to read all this just now, guess it had a good ending. good luck.

Ian bean, I'm putting yr party on my calendar. I gots to be dancing in LI all day so I might be wiped out, but put me down for some fun.

sweet dude :)

ari and i are gonna come i think--maybe i will make some more seven layer bars

miss u sanskrit.

hope you guys come on over, it should be fun. r0ss warned me that when our other roommate throws a party it tends to involve a lot of people who don't know anyone living here, and that he (r0ss) generally hangs out for a few hours then flees til 2 or 3 am. so, it could go either way. i'm generally not a fan of huge house parties at my own home, but since this is a good occasion imo and it would be nice to see everyone, i am totally thinking it will rule.

i'll have a jug of cheap whisky. and maybe some cheeze doodles.

eh if it gets bad the fun people can peace out to a bar

I've been to a few parties there, Ian. If it's not just us usually we camp out somewhere and chainsmoke. It all works!

guys i think maybe we should go to fette sau after 11pm and eat these $2.50 pulled pork sandwiches i've just been reading about on (sorry) yelp.

just adding a ballot to the stack of "awesome result" votes

guys i think maybe we should go to fette sau after 11pm and eat these $2.50 pulled pork sandwiches i've just been reading about on (sorry) yelp.

― ian, Monday, August 17, 2009 7:17 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ i would do this

itd be cool to go there and spend $2.50 instead of $25 def

ten times less imo

dont know that yr applying the brisket theorem properly there slok

I wd come early then! cuz I have a meaningless Mets game to go to at 1pm Sunday, :p

BEER AND FUN

beer, and FUN!

meaningless mets game!

drink an old rasputin 4 me, doog!

dogg!

i went to the bbq place near my apartment last night.
the guy slicing the meat is a regular customer/nice guy I know from around.
Dude hooks me up--doubles my pulled pork order & throws in a half-rack of ribs. what a bro.

also pretty sure he gave me more brisket than i was charged for

i don't know where to get old rasputin in my new neighborhood. i had the victory imperial stout a few nights back & it was aight but no old ras. also finally found an ny deli that stocks sam smith's taddy porter on the regular--really like that one.

I had Texas brisket in Azzbury Park last weekend, beat dat

i ate mine in my undies in front of an air conditioner?

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as will we all