come anticipate NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. with me

If it is good, I will buy a DS (lite).

i think the gameplay is 2d but it uses 3d models? i dunno i've seen like one screenshot.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PRjzqc2l6Yw&search=new%20super%20mario

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DeZlrs4h6zo&search=new%20super%20mario

watching those makes me feel very nostalgic.

!

that could be a lot of fun

And yeah, the new one looks like it's going to follow on from that. So I suppose that's why I'm just not that bothered.

Exactly! It makes me nostalgic for how excited I was and the pleasure I used to get playing 2D Mario games when they first came out. I don't think playing those old games again will ever give me the same feeling they used to, but the New Mario footage makes that nostalgic part of me think that maybe I CAN get that same feeling again because it's, like, old but new ALL AT THE SAME TIME. But then I simultaneously feel sad because I really doubt it can ever be like it once was. And I also think "Man, I'm old now". And I also think "Why can't I get no satisfaction from killing Goombas and Snifits and making vines grow and bouncing turtles shells against stairs for infinite 1-ups like I could once upon a time?" O NEW MARIO Y U BRAEK HAERT??/

I remember this feeling.

It is always the right choice to get excited about stuff with a past stuffed with perfection. ALWAYS.

Man, now I have to get a job so I can buy awesome shit. I knew this would happen if I started reading ILG again.

why do developers assume that the final guy MUST be a hairpulling hourlong experience in an otherwise well-balanced and enjoyable game?

A friend and I just beat the Warriors, which does exactly the same thing. Dunno why we couldn't just stab him like in the film.

If this is SMB1, the humble and almost clumsy everyman working joe on a mission has been replaced by some sort of ninja gymnast plumber, apparently.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/705/705537p1.html

NOW I HAVE, FOOLS!

YES!

But the DS Lite isn't coming out for a month. :(

YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!

Also, it looks pretty big, and feels perfect to play. Still just getting to grips with it, but loving all the little details like clouds and snow compressing under your feet as you run, wierd wobbling mushroom platforms and getting used to the new powerups.

Wait, people download DS games? Do you use a flash card thingy, or are there emus around?

THE.

BEST.

Except I keep dying on this one boss now cos I don't have the fire, fuckin Nintendo ;_;

Yeah, I've got one of those M3 SD movieplayer things. It's for playing movie's, MP3's and homebrew games on your DS, and just so happens to play roms.

HOW DO I SHOT MARIO (CANNON)

Yeah, these are really starting to piss me off. I see them everywhere, and I'm sure they're the only way to get to some worlds (Still can't get to world 4...), and I've no idea how to use them or find them. Then again, with Mario 3 I wouldn't have known how to find whistles if I hadn't seen The Wizard before playing it. Nintendo needs to make another movie to help me.

Me: "Well, it did just come out yesterday...", hoping the rest was clear.

It's really fuckin' good after twenty minutes of play and I've only gotten to world 2.

anyway i'm lovin' it although i'm worried it's a bit too easy. i'm pacing myself so i don't blow through the game in a couple of days. also... i'm sad about the lack of YOSHI and FLYING, what is up with that?

Sigh, this is pretty much every nintendo game for the last five years, isn't it?

animal crossing kept me gathering and re-sellign fruit for an alarmingly long period of time! i can't really go near it anymore though.

Who are you people that blow through a game in a couple of days? Do you not have jobs and television and magazines?

smw was fairly easy, so is this. smw was pretty expansive though; this is certainly a bit smaller in scale.

I panic about new Zelda games and stuff, because I know I'll play it for a week solid or something crazy like that. HOW CAN YOU LEAVE A GAME UNFINISHED OH GOD

I have 1337 skillz.

It's true though, sunshine was tricky. And zeldas last more than a couple of days too, I guess. And metroids, probably. But pikmin/luigimansion/1080/waverace/mkdd/mkds/wariowares/kirbyds/etc etc...all have been finished in hardly any time at all, for me, and I find it pretty painful cos they were ALL nice, fun games that I would've happily played for weeks on end, had it been possible.

I've been trying to word this for AGES! I went out of my way and spent a tenner more to buy the Cube version of Res Evil 4 instead of the PS2 one, just because I wanted LESS GAME for my money. It's much more fun to charge through a game in a couple of days, then do it again, than it is to never finish it.

I realise I sound like I'm talking in opposites like on the Wii thread, but I swear I'm completely serious. I like to feel like I've mastered games inside out.

re: the no job thing, we should play some wifi sometime. I'm basically free all day every day if you fancy a Mario Kart/Animal Crossing/Tetris.

also, anyone know how to get the fireworks at the end of a stage? my Super Mario Bros. Memories tell a 7 at the end of the seconds was good, but I can only manage to get 1 firework in this New SMB.

also this game is fucking AWESOME. I've even enjoyed the swimming levels so far, which is a first to say the least.

I've found two cannons but both of them lead to World 5, which is not helpful!

I found a cannon to World 8 but seriously I cannot get to Worlds 4 or 7. Harrumpf.

you have to beat the boss of world 2 as little dude.

which i just did!

I'm midway through sneaky World 8. Does anyone know, if you beat the final board, do you still get to wander around the other levels?

you know you can still do the midair downwards stomp as minimario, remy?

What do you mean you can save any time you want? I have been saving up those "passage for 5 big coins" for save points.

OTM x 10000000

Mario + Luigi mode is ridiculous fun. I don't like the minigames as much, but I've only tried a few. Are any of them good?

I just beat the main dude! That next to last tower was frustrating. Now to go back and finish World 6 and open up World 7 and then decide whether I want to bother trying to find more big coins...

OMG SUPERBIG LUIGI!

OMG DIFFERENT STUPID CATCHPHRASES!

I'm not sure it's "too easy" but it might be "too small"!

I think I have realised I secretly hate games, and merely have to beat them because of some strange OCD.

I have all the worlds unlocked, and I have still managed to do things that weren't playing this gme today. Nice. I think I actually spent most of my time trying to unlock cannons and whatnot and beating bosses as mini mario. The thing I've found most annoying is trying to get the right power ups for specific things...

Yeah, I haven't tried doing that yet, I figured I would go back and clean up the stuff I missed after beating the game.

so C/D ?

how does everyone feel about this, some time after it's actually come out?

does it belong in the pantheon or was it a failed effort to recapture 2d mario glory?

me, i liked it ok, but found it a little short, and short on surprises/secrets/fun stuff to explore. and now, however long since i've played it - a year or 2 or 3? - i can barely remember a single level.

all i remember is not being able to make it through stages as tiny mario to get to the part where you needed to use the tininess squeeze in somewhere. but i also remember loving it.

me, i liked it ok, but found it a little short, and short on surprises/secrets/fun stuff to explore. and now, however long since i've played it - a year or 2 or 3? - i can barely remember a single level.

I concur with every word of this although I liked it enough to %100 it (and I never %100 games). it really could have used more suits. on the plus side it looks like NSMBWii will be addressing every one of these complaints and therefore I expect it to own in a most aggressive fashion.

yup, I agree with both of you 100%

I think there's some definitely some retrospective regret that this game really wasn't the direct followup to SMB3 that it was advertised... definitely not enough suits and distinct worlds. That said, I also 100%'d it, so it was definitely worthwhile. Still I'd lower my expectations for NSMB Wii. (Never raise your expecations for anything!)

I thought of it as a remake of SMB1 -- limited powerups, bowser (jr) at the end of every world, all left-to-right stages, etc. I sold it after getting 100%.

I really enjoyed it at the time, but found it largely very easy (apart from, as mentioned upthread, trying to get to the end of levels as tiny Mario - mostly due to the space jumping physics when you're wee). I've tried playing it since - the yardstick of a great Mario game, and just couldn't really get into it again. Meanwhile I can still pick up SMB3 or SMWorld and play through them world-by-world and enjoy it.

Hoping for something great from NSMBWii but, like others, not getting my hopes too high.

IT'S NEARLY HERE

you get a $10 GC from amazon after NSMB ships

the supermario bros in you is the reality in you

4 player coop sounds amazing (if you play as Yoshi you can eat other players). Is it nuts to consider getting a Wii this late in its game?

The one review I've read actually said they didn't really care for the multiplayer, but loved the single player. The complaint seemed to be that while the 4 player was fine for a lark, it was just too chaotic and frustrating to try to make any kind of progress, that it just didn't flow. That kind of reminds me of my experience with LittleBigPlanet, where anything with more than two players just got too busy. Just one person's opinion though... http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=226725

Now is a great time to get a Wii as the price has come down, and there's a small but excellent library of games available. Also Sin and Punishment 2 and Capcom vs Tatsunoko are both set to be released early in 2010

The recently released A Boy and His Blob re-imagining is also a very good 2d puzzle / platformer

I probably won't be in the market until next summer but yeah, I'm intrigued by the catalog.

The nice thing about waiting till summer 2010 would be you would probably know if Wii HD / Wii 2 is coming out in the fall or not

haha, good point there

is there really the slightest chance in hell nintendo is going to put out a new platform next year?

My feeling is it will be 2011, but who knows. I could definitely see Nintendo doing a refresh of the Wii in 2010, similiar to their DS strategy. Basically a new, slightly more expensive Wii that will be capable of displaying games in HD and will include a new motion plus controller as standard (with the current two piece system combined into one). Would go perfect with a HD new Super Mario Galaxy 2, for example (I'd buy one). It does seem like with both the 360 getting a Natal based refresh and the PS3 adding Wii-like motion controls, Nintendo might feel like they have to do somethinbg to keep people excited about their system.

right. nintendo just moves so slow i'd think we'd have heard about it already if it was going to happen in 2k10. don't get me wrong, i would totally finally buy a wii if that were to happen!

These days it seems like they like to keep their cards close though, doesn't it? We only heard about both DSi and DS XL a few months before they were to be released. That's why I think come E3 or summer there's still a possibility they may announce a refresh of their hardware, but also why I feel like, if by then they haven't, it'll be pretty safe to assume it's not coming until at least 2011.

Just imagine how huge it would be if at E3 2010 Nintendo announces they're releasing an enhanced / premium Wii with HD output and an improved controller that includes better motion plus and a wireless nunchuck. Also HD versions of Super Mario Galaxy 2, HD Zelda and HD Nintendodogs & cats. It doesn't seem impossible to me.

Sorry for the derail

no i would be into that!

that's quite the wishlist! i don't know though. let's say they are doing this. and they've already told developers this will exist (unlikely since it def. would've leaked by now). that means except for nintendo's own output, no major third party games to take advantage of until late 2011/2012. at that point a PS4/X720 could well be out or announced. since nintendo is still on top i don't know if they want to undercut themselves by shooting early, that hasn't worked for the last few console generations. (this assumes of course there isn't a "real" Wii successor coming out soon after, if they're bother to do Wii HD)

not really related, but i just don't get how nintendo has the same third party output problems with the Wii that it did with the Gamecube. Especially when they're doing great with the DS!

Yeah, I'm hardly convinced myself, I just don't feel like it's impossible (and it would be smart!). It will be quite sad for Nintendo if they head into fall 2010 just announcing a couple of games for the wii vitality sensor :(

I have a .xls of the best wii games if anyone needs one

it's actually a .txt but whtevs

coz I know you're fooling but I'm kinda getting excited about the Wii as a platform and if you have a list, I'd love to see it...the DS list you guys put together earlier this year on the DS thread has been pretty much my gaming agenda for the last six months; solid gold.

solid gold wii imo: Klonoa, Tiger Woods 2010, Little King's Story, Okami, Punch-Out!!, Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, Resident Evil, Resident Evil 0, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Pro Evolution Soccer 2010, House of the Dead: Overkill, NPC! Pikmin 2, NPC! Chibi-Robo, No More Heroes, Animal Crossing: City Folk, Metroid Prime: Trilogy, Mad World, Bit.trip series, Super Paper Mario, Zack & Wiki, A Boy & his Blob, Dead Space: Extraction, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, You, Me & the Cubes

upcoming: Metroid: Other M, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle, Fragile, Dragon Quest X, Monster Hunter Tri, Red Steel 2, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, No More Heroes 2, Sin & Punishment 2, Epic Mickey, Illvelo,
Fatal Frame IV (fan translated), Pikmin 3

yeah.. see... i don't know, half that gold list are either gamecube ports and stuff that doesn't sound super appealing - or was ignored even by cultists. like klonoa, bit.trip stuff. dead space? super paper mario, isn't that totally forgotten at this point?

i don't mean to be such a debbie downer but i dunno

dead space!!!

dead space extraction is a pretty good game actually, a solid rental at least. anticipating far more wii games than ps3 games tbh.

I'm still catching up on Gamecube games (just got WarioWorld and Mario Power Tennis in the mail today)!

Super Paper Mario was rad; my mom lol has a wii and over a Christmas break a couple of years ago I played that mf pretty much day/night. Maybe she'll let me have the wii; I'm sure that I played it more in that three day binge than she's played it since.

also I want Punch-Out so badly

you should. it rules!

I wanted to like Super Paper Mario so much since Thousand Year Door is pretty much my favorite GC game but aaaaaaaaaaaagh ppl be talkin in it. I think the correct way to get through the opening scene is to set one of those drinking birds up by the wiimote and then go out for a walk.

if u h8 on klonoa ill punch in u in the stomach

my ideal wii games collection

01 nancy drew
02 klonoa
03 muramasa demon blade
04 gurren laggan tactics
05 paper mario
06 mad world
07 dokapon kingdom
08 boom bloxxx
09 resident evil 4 wii
10 grand slam tennis i think its called

This is surprisingly difficult with two players. Even cooperating, it's hard not to get in each other's way and mess stuff up. Crazy fun though!

Damn...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsZCxsIrVP0

Single player is also surprisingly challenging - so far it feels just like a classic Mario game.

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Poor luigi.
He's in a mouth for the whole level :(
Hope he didnt punch the uvula of the yoshis :(

this game owns

really

all the reviews for this need to say are "2D mario platformer. 9/10"

this game is predictably brilliant, every level seems to have an interesting new gameplay element.

!!!!

too short tho

thats what she said

how long you been lurking on ILG waiting to strike with that one

it'sa me!

am0nio!

Love that they worked Mario's catchphrase into Assassin's Creed II.

too short tho

yeah - its also not that good anymore once the nostalgia value/omg2d/visceral thrills have worn off

also, dear nintendo make a system that has graphics that don't look like shit you dumbfucks

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here me again. WII IS FUCKING GAY!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MurWPRzmzo

played some of this, if you want a real challenge play with three people, and make sure one of them is a brilliant doctor from Benin that has never played a platforming video game ever

its in the difficulty screen but you have to enter the konami code

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dont be fooled by good players. this game will make you want to throw your controller at your TV screen. think im lieing? uve been warned.

http://au.gamespot.com/news/6249964.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

software pirate is gonna have to become a bankrobber

been steadily working my way through this and it's become kind of a chore. :-/

wii ver, that is

maybe it's bc I don't play very frequently but I just can't get w/the controls. way too sluggish for a mario game.

The floaty, slow imprecision of the jumps really kinda dogs it. Seems like it was intentional to suit the multiplayer aspect of the game, where it does work (in the crazy contradictory/competitive sense).

yeah, "imprecise" is exactly the right word. I die a lot in this game and it often doesn't feel like it's my fault.

it's a shame because the level design is often pretty inventive but the game is just not that much fun bc of the controls.

i tht the levels were p lame

it's not even close to mario 3 (or even mario world) in that respect, but I do think it's fairly good on the whole. the castles in particular.

tho I could do without the motion control junk, as usual.

mario had floaty jumping? don't ever play littlebigplanet then

The DS version had it too, but it didn't feel quite as sluggish. I most definitely like these games, but it's all part of a distinct, plushier feel to the games - I don't want to say "less hardcore" because the game can still have challenging difficulty, but it's definitely away from the general speed of both play and repetitive death from the originals. Even the music styles support this atmosphere. A strange fallback from converting the 3D Marios in reverse to 2D again.

In particular one of the things I wasn't ever able to get a hold of, but seems like an important thing I'm missing, is the technique where you start running - it feels very slow - and when Mario has accelerated enough, do multiple pinpoint successive spinning jumps. Sometimes the levels seem to be designed for this super high risk technique to be used, and other times it feels like you are forced to just tiptoe through.

Even the new Wii game had the "floaty" jumping! I'm glad to hear someone else mention it, because all my friends acted like I was crazy when I complained about the weird looseness of the controls.

I am only 3 levels in (and I've played some of level 5) but the "floatyness" hasn't got to me and I never thought about it until I've seen it mentioned here. Floatyness could be a pester during boss battles but I'm sure the difficulty in this game is just fine (maybe a bit easy? - I can't say for sure yet). But Luigi or Princess Toadstool in Super Mario 2 would definitely win in a floatyness competition.

It's not just that the jumps are floaty, but the whole physics and inertia of running, jumping, and landing feels really weird - like how when you start running, Mario is like a tub of butter on ice, and it seems to take just a bit too long to be fast enough to jump forward - similarly, when you land. You can get used to it eventually, but it definitely doesn't have that click to it that SMB3 and SMW have.

You should try Kid Kool on a NES emulator to feel the most messed up running/jumping controls ever... I used to own the game and I still like it but woo-wee

I am only 3 levels in (and I've played some of level 5) but the "floatyness" hasn't got to me and I never thought about it until I've seen it mentioned here.

fwiw, I didn't have too much of an issue w/the controls until the game got a bit harder.

So I am playing Super Mario RPG, which is a really fun game and lives up to the hype. But it's kind of strange because it is the first 3D Mario game (complete with jump mechanics) and also the first CGI-rendered Mario game. At times it feels proto-Super Mario 3D World.

I am wondering why Nintendo doesn't just make a Super Mario Bros. CGI movie. The cutscenes (hell, the gameplay even) are already up there w big budget CGI cartoons imho. Plus an official movie that wasn't live action but actually made by Nintendo would be guaranteed nostalgia money, would have tons of marketing/cross-promotion potential, etc. Nintendo is shooting itself in the foot every minute that goes by and there is not a SMB movie in production.