I just played Chrono Trigger for over an hour.

After you've beaten the game, doesn't it only take like 20 minutes to beat it again? You can just do the fair and then use the opposite platform on the time machine to go straight to lavos, right?

If you do a google search for something like "chrono trigger" "endings" you should be able to find the site that lists them all. They also have save states for SNES9X(I think) that take you right there. you MAY have to beat Lavos's last two stages. I don't remember, I only used it for the English version.

If I talk with Weeze (friend: www.myspace.com/sirweezejunk), since we BOTH do that, we rarely part without sore throats.

o boy o boy
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ctds/

BAN DARRAMOUS!

to be fair he did settle down a lot once Jol finally got sacked

Fight the same series of wimps in the forect for an hour or two? I DON'T THINK SO. I think I'll BEAT THE GAME 3 times.
lost meme opportunity

On one hand, I'm feeling, "fuck yes! best game ever! not forgotten by Squenix!" but on the other, "fuck, I paid $80 for this shit back in 1996, and already played it for like 100 hours, do I really want to buy it again". Oh, nostalgia gaming.

Terranigma dammit

I miss having Darra & Gzeus to kick around

yeah it's all fun in retrospect until one of them actually comes back.

El Tomboto otm. Never again.

did they get proper banned or something?

man i don't even remember why darra was such an issue... i think i maybe got here after that, when everyone was saying BAN HIM before he even opened his mouf.

I deliberately embued tombot with mod powers during ILG v1 for the express purpose of fucking with those two, and lo, lolz were had.

Darra filtered over to ILE and fell under flailing fists and cries of "THAT'S RACIST!" And lo, lolz were had.

In fact, I also fucked with GZeus enough to make him take it to ModReq. Unfortunately, due to the fact that I was modding ILG at the time, his protests fell on deaf ears (and lo, etc).

Is there an ILG Compendium of Darra vs GZeus thread, or did I dream that?

Is this that game that's like Virtua Cop except you get a pedal to hide behind a box as well as a gun?

Yer thinking of "Time Crisis."

Good to see g-kit again.

I never understood why Darra was such an issue, I must have missed the ILE thing.

"Please just ban me from even being able to read this website. I just can't take the smug neckbeard community any more."

Dunno, sounds like he had just the right amount of contempt for the boards and self-loathing for posting on them to make up your average ILE poster.

Was disappointed that Search yielded no fruitful results for "Best of Darra & GZeus".

I just found the full on I KILL YOU FOR NOT AGREEING WITH ME THING a bit mental tbh.

link?

best of the gzeus

omg <3

okay lol

"Excuse me, sir, but I've been sitting here for the past 10 minutes trying to figure out how to tell you how you've been ruining my food in this fine establishment, but then I realised you have to live with yourself, so I'm gonna leave."

okay lol that whole thread

Thsi whole incident has left ne nauseous. I'm gonn take a tums.

haa i thought it said 'I'm gonna take a turns'

all the evidence is on that other thread, though. GZeus was Chris Crocker.

Sadly OTM. Poor guy just wasn't well :(

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19795
I'm going to admit that I never played this and am very much looking forward to it.

yeah a lot of my life consists of challops

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lie bomb

fuck is challops? ilx is like hit #2 on google for challops

"challenging opinions"

best game ever anyone who disagrees can eatadiccup

imo

didnt realize D&G had been banned btw - their presence kept me from posting here for a long time (possibly an incentive to unban them depending on ur pov~)

anyway, chrono trigger - revisiting a lot of older games, or just shit in general, that i loved when i was 10, 11 years old - this is almost uniformly v.v.v.v. unrewarding. except for chrono trigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's p. unique among squaresoft bullshits in that regard too. ff7 is atrocious to me today, but i could prob sit down and HELLA dig on some chrono trigger rn. everything about it is perfect *lone, manful tear trickles down face, is absorbed by neckbeard*

I played the U.S. version of this on PC. The only turn-based RPG I've ever finished. So great. Not Secret of Mana great, but great.

Re: the original post, I had a moment like that when I watched The Ring (Japanese version) with Italian subtitles in a hotel room in Pisa. I watched the whole thing, despite speaking not a word of either language. Good times.

(on ZSNES on PC)

cankles OTM

except RPG-wise I still like to play Earthbound and FF6 (the latter has fallen off more in my eyes)

wait there's a PC version of this

Using an emulator, yes. I think snes9x is the preferred one these days. I last tried to do it in 1999 or something. Shouldn't be too hard to find the ROM.

i missed out on earthbound when i was a kid - replayed FF6 last year tho, it was ok, just kinda a lot more boring and flavorless than i recall? like, why was kefka ever considered a compelling villain?

so this game IS better than all those FF games and billion RPGs that seem like they're diverting but are actually boring chores involving talking to every NPC in a village and item management?

From what I've gathered, it's one of the best implementations of the boring chore style of RPG.

because gamers were like "waaooo i can hear him laugh, motherfucker is CRAZY! POISONING WATER WAT" (re: kefka)

s1ocki, the great thing about CT is that there's virtually no running around in circles to get experience points, there's almost no item management (aside from buying new weapons when you can, and at the beginning you need to buy potions sometimes) and the talking to villagers or w/e is pretty fucknig entertaining because the settings are so interesting that they don't waste your time with MEDIEVAL VILLAGER #457 FROM THE TOWN OF LUHIM or whatever.

Secret of Mana is the best of the chore-based RPGs, but that's an action RPG like Zelda. Chrono Trigger is the turn-based RPG for people who don't like turn-based RPGs.

It's something like this, from pick up and play fun to bring a spreadsheet and a twelve-pack of Mountain Dew, imo: Zelda 3, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, all those shitty Final Fantasy games.

Re: the original post, I had a moment like that when I watched The Ring (Japanese version) with Italian subtitles in a hotel room in Pisa. I watched the whole thing, despite speaking not a word of either language. Good times.

Subtitles??? Wow! Every time I watched a film in Italy it was the same voiceactors. Maddening! Appears (like in France) the big actors are all dubbed by the same people.

I have not played CT. I do not miss GZeus but I'm sure HI DERE is regularly saddened by the loss of his friendly sparring partner...

I had no opnion one way or the other on Darramouss...

chrono trigger is secret of mana perfected - better production values, more engaging, ~*kewler*~. i played secret of mana a few years beforehand and i'd loved it, and it was certainly easy for me even as a 10 yr old to see the parallels, but CT just jazzes everything up imo

and ya, no random battles in CT - u see bad guys on the screen and u run into them to start a fight or u just walk around them to get to the next area. there's 10 different endings but unlike other multiple ending games a.) you actually want to replay it b.) the game's way easier/faster to beat every time u go thru it again.

Where does one find this CT for use on a modern system?

idk man i still play my snes cartridge - iirc there was a playstation rerelease that had gay animu cut scenes added, and a spruced up version is coming out for the DS in a coupla months (november)

I might wait for DS. Cut scenes are such a pain in the face!

http://www.chronotrigger.jp/

chrono trigger is secret of mana perfected

I disagree with this with the very core of my being. The basic reason that everyone can get behind is that CT has turn-based battles, which are tedious and fiddly. But there's more, and yeah, it comes down to atmosphere and other intangibles.

Maybe it's whichever game you played when you were 14. In my case that was SoM. Perhaps I was too old to be completely overwhelmed by CT when I played it.

well, they're close to neck-and-neck for title of most important game of my formative years, trust me, but i just thought CT was less drab and sad and also looked and sounded way better. but yeah, intangibles. also, the battles in SoM are still somewhat turn based - the fact that the game pauses when you open up the rotary menu kills any hope of frenetic zelda type action imo

did they have the rotary menu in CT? that was some totally crazy UI experimentation of the kind people get PhDs in.

no CT did not have it. but the rotary menu was a genius solution to a stupid problem (needing to go into menus too much). ct kinda eliminates the poblem by not sticking you in scenarios where you need the menu as much.

did they have the rotary menu in CT? that was some totally crazy UI experimentation of the kind people get PhDs in.

― caek, Monday, September 22, 2008 11:45 AM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark

i dont think so, it was normal JRPG menus w/the scrolling turn-bar. in retrospect that's the other thing that really delighted me about CT, at least at that age - it was so much simpler and easier than other games of its type. it's so scaled down, it was the first videogame i was actually able to BEAT on my own. i had to watch my older brother and my dad beat SoM and i would play using their saves, cuz they were so much better than me. there's a puffed-up fischer price, safety scissors quality to CT that really helps it out in the long run imo. i remember when i first played FF6, not long after i'd been playing CT for a while (96 probably), and i remember thinking how much DARKER and adult seeming it was (lol). which was definately appealing in its own way, but when i tried playing it - OOF, it was like the hardest game in the world to me. and the amano aesthetic is sorta unnerving and surreal to a kid - still is for me, really - and it was just such a mean and unforgiving gaming experience. you'd think i'd appreciate this stuff as i got older, but it turns out FF6 was just BAD at everything it was trying to pull off. it aimed for something higher, more grand and mature, but it was just retard-o drivel. meanwhile, CT just wanted to be a shiny, flashy experience that fleshed out a smaller, simpler world (gaming-wise and narrative-wise) and ended up succeeding on all the levels that that the FF games flailed and failed at.

imo~

terranigma dudes!!!

imo, FF games fail by being boring.

I am now googling about pie menus, which are a bit like rotary menus.

tell me abt terranigma tom

actually nm, i forgot u liked xenogears - our tastes in games could never possibly mesh

fuck you! terranigma is good, it is nothing like xenogears

also this ties in to my unifying theory of gaming that i decided upon while replaying FFT last year - turns out it's not v good btw - which is that the more intricate u attempt to make the gaming experience, the more u will just end up sabotaging ur own game (or at the very least, the more complex the battle system is in an RPG or rpg type game, the easier it is to 'break' the game). FFT is drowning in options, but it's also ridiculously easy to exploit and cheese your way through it. meanwhile take a look at the first zelda - there arent many ways to cheat at zelda, cheating is basically just playing it, cuz it's so simple.

hah - reading abt terranigma now - http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/quintet/quintet.htm - i guess it has something to do w/illusion of gaia????? that game was a big deal to me when i was a kid, i might be interested in this. sell me on it, my dude!

you start out on the inside of earth and all the quests/stages are basically you re-awakening the continents, the plants, the animals, the wind, the humans, then you get to go around and there's a fucked-up ghost town section plus you rescue christopher columbus and there's a big fire that fucks up chicago and on and on. it's a blast. my only problem was figuring out what I had to do at the very very very end, I had to read gamefaqs, something about giving a penguin a flower or some utter utter nonsense like that.

and it's not turn based, it's really more like zelda in fact

Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma is prob the darkest & creepiest SNES RPG trilogy

ya, illusion of gaia was genuinely chilling & desolate - pretty unique game imo - i remember it having a weird, isolated atmosphere that made u feel like ur character was a ghost trapped amongst the living. most of the gameplay was puzzle solving and hitting blobby things with a flute, and for the ending they basically just kill you and your girlfriend (iirc)

secret of mana was v sad. listing to the soundtrack now makes me tear up: http://secretofmana.planets.gamespy.com/soundtrack.html

yeah som bummed me the fuck out too - towards the end when you find out the blonde chick's boyfriend is dead or possessed or whatever, and then you fukkin KILL HIM. dang, that was heavy as hell for a 7 year old.

was his name dylock? i cant believe i remember that, i havent played this game in like 15 years

yeah cankles otm re: IoG. not being able to go back into earlier levels was kind of a bitch but also a reminder "you're not ever seeing home again"

http://secretofmana.planets.gamespy.com/images/screenshots/screen112.jpg

crank dat mode 7!!

Phanna, Thanatos, etc.

All those villagers who just said "..."

Oh man IoG. That's the only one of the trilogy I've played but Jesus it was possibly the most I ever "felt" for a video game. Main character with my name != help. That game was the loneliest feeling game EVER.

did anyone play phantasy star II?? i think that was the only turn-based RPG i was really obsessed with

That game was the loneliest feeling game EVER.

definitely do not dip your toe in Terranigma, then. there's a bit in the desert with a girl which is pretty much the most terrifying experience I've ever had in a game. And the castle with the evil queen is also mad creepy.

lol I sound like I have a problem with women.

Ku ku ku...

opening post of this is still some sort of masterpiece

everybody otm re illusion of gaia (illusion of time over here). i think the isolation cankles touches on stems from the fact that enemies didn't (or very rarely) re-spawned, so you'd end up killing everything and going through all these empty dungeons looking for missed items

it had a perfect difficulty curve as well, and some pretty tough bosses (the huge king and queen boss immediately springs to mind as a boss that took more than one go to defeat). i think the fact that you couldn't cheat with faeries made it more of a challenge than something like zelda, there's plenty of one-energy-bar-left-edge-of-seat victories and overall i think it was pretty stingy with life replenishment (though of course the fact that zelda and secret of mana were free roaming work in their favour). it felt a lot more arcadey than your usual non-turn based snes rpg.

and who can forget that cute little piggy.

i should really get 'round to terranigma, the premise sounds great.

any secret of evermore heads up in this?

the one that roasts itself on an open flame to save you xpost

xpost I have said many times on ILX that Secret of Evermore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secret of Mana

****SPOILERZ****

here's the boss i was on about (turns out they're vampires!)

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oh

http://www.youtube.com/v/djm5ypqWJKM&hl=fr&fs=1

oh tht didn't work either

i mean fuck that boss battle was like something out of super probotector or something, except harder because you don't have a gun

the fact that all the dungeons were real, recognizable places like angkor wat and the great wall of china added to the eeriness too, bcz the world that yr character lived in was like some kind of seperate bubble world that had no discernable relation to reality, and it's really jarring for the game to superimpose that onto actual history & geography - it was like in old movies when they were shooting ppl in a car and the background was a shitty lookin projection

and then at the end when they're plunked down into modern times (i think?), that is some fourth wall breakin ass shit imo

the section in the subway car in secret of mana

I played an hour of Chrono Trigger last night, jsut like GZeus did, only I haven't played my copy for like >10 years. Getting back into it was fucked up, because I've never really "memorized" a game like that, apparently. "SPINAL FUNCTION" indeed. I remembered where every treasure chest was, etc.

If you ask me, the things that made that game the best of its genre are:

- Battles are fast. The sheer lack of a "battle screen" (instead, the charactes just pull their weapons out and get to it) saves about 6 seconds per battle vs., say, FF3. It also stops the flow from being interrupted.

- You can avoid battles when you want to. You can't avoid them ALL, but you can avoid enough of them that it's awesome.

- This one's vital: the game feels split into "episodes," BUT doesn't sacifice flow to do so. Like, I played for 58 minutes last night. At the end of 30 mins, fake-Leene-Marle had disappeared-- in the first 30 minutes, you wake up, clsoe your curtains, meet your cat and mom, get an allowance, go to a fair, meet marle, meet lucca, lose marle, find marle and lose marle again. 30 minutes!!! if that doesn't get your attention get one (1) ritalin. in the next 30 mins, i met frog, saved real-leene, and got back to the castle.

in between that speedy pacing re: battles and perfectly metered episodic feel, you've got a game that is fun to play at all times. There's always something to do and there's always at least a mild sense of urgency and there's always new environments to explore (this game gets away with the "vastly different environments" thing really nicely) and the characters are better than other SNES jRPGs and and and and and am I GZeus now?

THAT'S INSANE.

The artful gamer guy seems to think that Pier Solar is potentially Chrono Trigger good... anybody wanna play the ROM and let me know?
http://www.piersolar.com/

Are they actually releasing a ROM of it?

There's a pre-release free rom on that site.

u guys ever walked through the Chrono Trigger beta ROM w/Game Genie hax? v. interesting stuff, missing levels and whatnot.

http://www.thejhohcableshow.com/pix/1185830937099.png
http://www.thejhohcableshow.com/pix/1185830937099.png
http://www.thejhohcableshow.com/pix/1185830937099.png

http://www.thejhohcableshow.com/pix/1185830937099.png

oh shit, chrono trigger ds comes out this week?

Next week (supposedly Nov. 25th). I'm looking forward to it, as I've never played Chrono Trigger before.

oh awesome

Just got this for DS. Starting to play for the first time on the plane ride home for Thanksgiving tomorrow. At this point the expectations are pretty damn high.

im playing this now.

pretty good!

i mean... im kinda struggling with my feelings on the whole snes-era rpg genre... besides phantasy star 2 i never really played these...

heh... sounds like it might be too... DEEP for u...

It's one of my all-time favorites! Try not to let the nostalgia/hype faze you - either you'll enjoy it or you won't, in the end.

You're starting with probably the most distilled essence of the SNES DQ/FF formulas at the end of an era, so if you're not already into that genre, it may turn out not to be your thing, especially over a decade later. (I'm not sure I'd put Phantasy Star near the Square/Enix/SNES style of RPGs) In some ways it was great because of the lessons it picked up from Secret of Mana, FF 4-6, the DQs, etc.

not so much deep as just... what is the gameplay here really? i mean... i dunno what i mean

i've tried playing some of those FF remakes, they are kinda fun but i always lose interest cuz they all seem exactly the same

this one though seems to be pretty thoughtfully made and careful to avoid the kind of things that always annoy me, like poor item management that lets you accidentally sell all your shit etc

what is the gameplay here really? i mean... i dunno what i mean

what do you mean? like, that there's not enough to actually...do?

well it's like... walk around. open chest. encounter enemy. press "attack" or "magic"... i dunno...

I'm about 6 1/2 hours in on my first play-thru ever too. It definitely gets a bit more strategic and a bit more challenging as you move through the game, at least on the boss battles, you can't just hit "a" or you will die. Keep going - I'm enjoying it more and more.

ya, the boss battles seem like the most interesting/challenging/game-like bits.

im definitely into it, just wondering what it is i'm into.

ive never played this game but the OP is prob. in my top five ILX OP's of all time

i can't defend it since i haven't played it for years, but in my memory there was (avoidable!) action-y combat and choices about where to go next that made it more fun than your average rpg of the time

ive never played this game but the OP is prob. in my top five ILX OP's of all time

― ♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Thursday, January 8, 2009 6:44 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

def

I love console RPGs but I don't get how any skill other than persevering at level grinds can help you to beat them i.e. I still don't really understand what the GZer was on about up there.

You know how the first 30 minutes of Royal Tenenbaum's is just montage? The first few hours of Chrono Trigger is like that. No rhythm. Really weird.

huh.

well it's like... walk around. open chest. encounter enemy. press "attack" or "magic"... i dunno...

... it's like this video game is nothing but a series of stimuli requiring me to input the same buttons in different sequences. over and over and over!

i know i know

but at least in action-oriented games there is the challenge to do it better, faster, more elegantly... sometimes with games like this i feel like i'm just walking through a really rigid set of motions/actions

Fight the same series of wimps in the forect for an hour or two? I DON'T THINK SO. I think I'll BEAT THE GAME 3 times.

i think you have to buy into the story, at least a little, or enjoy grinding as a perfectionist, repetitive joy in and of itself.

i remember having this discussion on ilg before but i like playing rpgs esp SNES ones as low-level challenges. it makes the strategic/mgmt aspect of the game important esp in CT you really have to learn which combos work well and you start to see the value in more obscure moves.

ya i definitely feel the enjoyment there on some level, there are just points where i'm like what am i doing here?

trying to help a cavegirl save her ppl from reptiles, duh! u have to pay attention!

REPTITES.

now who's not paying attention!!

have you played SofM, s1ocki? it sounds like you would prefer that.

super of mario?

secret of mana

sucreats of mario

servicio a mañana

super of man-ya

Sign on for Mammaries

Streak out for Mango

Schlep of Mongolia

Sluts of Morality

Shit or for Motherfucker

s1ocki give it time, unlike most games of its ilk its story will actually capture your heart [ <3 ] <-- see how it's captured?

how far are you?

A little frustrated with some of the more obscure sections of the game where I've been wandering around lost for an hour w/o any idea of what I'm supposed to do next to make some progress and have had to resort to gamefaqss twice :(

Also a bit too much backtracking and covering the same ground over and over - though part of that may have been the result of my aimless wanderings trying to figure out what I am supposed to do next (oh yeah, talk to that one kid in a house somewhere / sometime so he'll give you a medal so you can go talk to a frog and get a sword hilt).

ya i hear that but its not been that much of a prob for me cuz usually the places you can actually go at any given time are pretty limited..

im in the floating magical kingdom now... game is getting pretty cool

so many bosses tho eh

the boss:regular guy you fight ratio is really low compared to most RPGs i feel

this thread has reminded me that i still need to play terranigma

that's a huge plus, since fighting regular guys is usually pretty boring

Agree

It wasn't until the floating kingdom that I REALLY fell in love w/ that game. w/ the sole exception maybe of the 65M BC bits, those are great.

for me the point where u first get the ship is when i fell for the game. once the game opened up a little i def got more into it the ability to pursue each of the character's individual stories at yr own pace is crazy rewarding and made for such an immersive experience - also just the fun of creating random parties and discovering new abilites was superfun

also contra to FF games they designed the side quests in such an a+++
fashion a bunch of them are so unobstrusive its a real joy to figure out the where and when. i mean they make total sense but it does require actually paying attention to things that have been going on in the early stages rather than unfocused expoloration or totally random "hey guess what!" and the actual effort/payoff ratio of each of the quest's is near perfect

cool so is the point where the game really takes off?

.. cannot remember any of the side quests in chrono trigger at all, remind me? / :

idk wtf that unibrow emoticon is about but okay

SPOILERS *!*!* SPOILERZ *!*!* SPOILERS *!*!*

mainly thinking of the frog's backstory quest with his girl's ghost and shit but both the sun stone and rainbow shell sidequests have character talk in them. even remembering where all the black boxes are at adds something to the early stages

!

it is not a unibrow, it is a serious face. it never occured to me it could be read the other way

also thanks! i don't think i ever did the last two, maybe i should buy the DS version

also i really want that youtube to not be real :/ serious unibrow

i screwed up.

i think i wandered into a boss area (mountain of woe?) way too early in the game. so now i have to find my way ALLLL the way back and figure out what to do. annoyed

Got to these two goloms that are just kicking my ass. I mean, before I even get a turn I already got one man down. I guess it's time to start grinding :(

http://hardcoregaming101.net/chrono/chronotrigger.htm

i cant even remember last nite never mind my thought processes and wknd plans from when i was eight...

really though

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/26/guy-proposes-to-his-girlfriend-with-hacked-chrono-trigger-rom/

oops, posted already upthread.

That was a pretty interesting/neato proposal. But the "you are such a nerd" comment would have made me feel belittled.

I plan on proposing to future wife after jumping on stage after a romantic night/dinner at a place that has a live band. Then, on stage, I would throw on a leather jacket and grease my hair back with a dipper ride, and say "hit it" and the band would play 'Somewhere in My Heart' - Aztec Camera. Of course I might need singing lessons and perfect the art of faking how to play the electric guitar. Probably never gonna happen but props to the dude for doing something creative.

You'll definitely avoid the dreaded "you are such a nerd" response with the dulcet tones of Aztec Camera.

"All the charms she does possess" ie she's a bit jumpy and she doesn't like being splashed.

http://www.ugo.com/the-goods/toy-fair-2010-chrono-trigger-toys

http://literatigamereviews.blogspot.com/2011/07/systems-of-chrono-trigger.html

'...'

o_O

whenever i see this thread title i always thing that an hour doesnt seem like a particularly remarkable amount of time to have played a video game

otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FITruoZekCI

i actually tried playing this for the first time the other day, there was a free flash version on the net somewhere. But i was eating lunch at the time and so had to play with one hand.

"eating lunch"

Did I dream it or didn't someone once put the OP of this thread through one of those text-to-speech video hoonja-doonjas? Scanned through the thread and couldn't find it, made me :(

yes someone did, i remember that. but no idea where it is sorry

might be in the coint and plick?

unfortunately no
http://cointandplick.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/coint-plick-2008-55-chrono-trigger/

i did that! unfortunately i cant remember where i put it either.

WAIT

The Third Annual Coint and Plick Poll: ILG’s Best Video Games of 2009 - Part Three: #21 through #51

at work so i cant tell if it still works

oh it still works

yay!

Somehow it's even funnier when it's spoken out loud like that.

SPINAL FUNCTION

Dunno, sounds like he had just the right amount of contempt for the boards and self-loathing for posting on them to make up your average ILE poster.

g-kit knows us so well (way upthread)

Woohoo!!! Thanks for relinking that! Read the same series of nine paragraphs at the top of the thread for a minute or two? I DON'T THINK SO. I think I'll HEAR THEM READ 3 times.

Yay! I remembered it was from xtranormal, but my ILX search turned up nothing.

The line about blood transfusion just cracks me up.

http://i.imgur.com/rKB8cHu.png

Would buy

Fight the same series of wimps in the forect for an hour or two? I DON'T THINK SO. I think I'll BEAT THE GAME 3 times.

fuck yeah tshirt slogan forever
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

too much.

I can't immediately restart games again. I think the only one I ever beat multiple times in the same playing season was Dino Crisis like 13 years ago

Whatever happened to GZeus, anyway? I gave Tombot mod powers on here explicitly to fuck with that guy.

ha you know that he is a customer at my store right? iirc he pretty much swore off forums because his personality did nod jibe well with the forum experience, which was a pretty good call i think.

oh dear. you actually knew this guy!?

oh yeah - he actually is pretty much the same irl. he will probably be in later today, i will say howdy from ilg for you all and give him your email addresses and home telephone numbers

Oh very good, always nice to keep in touch

make sure you give him a special "die in a fire" "hello" from me

I havent played this game yet, am sort of waiting for the perfect time. It may happen soon! I'm so lookin forward to it...

/Fight the same series of wimps in the forect for an hour or two? I DON'T THINK SO. I think I'll BEAT THE GAME 3 times. /

fuck yeah tshirt slogan forever
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd buy the t shirt but I'm pathetic that way. GZeus was a legend. Interesting he wasn't a sock.

wow lol wow

On Wednesday I played Chrono Trigger for over an hour, on my SNES, because I was too tired to do anything else.

I'm glad GZeus wrote this because if he hadn't I would probably come here and write something as RANDOMLY FILLED WITH EXPLOSIONS OF CAPITAL LETTERS and references to how my DNA has been PARTIALLY REWRITTEN TO INSTILL CHRONO TRIGGER INSTINCT etc

So many things about this game are done so well -- I know the game has been praised to death but the design is so confident, the story is so sinewy, the world(s) is (are) so hangout-friendly (the fair alone? good god), the stakes raise so RIGHT... if this post had been about any other game I don't think it'd be ILX legend becase GZeus was 100% right (in addition to 200% funny).

I just started playing this on ZSNES. I had started a game a week ago and didn't realize it didn't automatically save upon staying at an inn, so lost the first hour. To make up for it I mashed the ~ key so grinding and getting back to that spot would be fast. Probably a bad idea, now I want to use it in nearly every fight.

SPINAL FUNCTION

Playing any emulated jrpg with a controller button mapped to fast-forward is key. That's how I was able to beat Earthbound the first time without going nuts.

haha yeah I can't live without my frame skip button

i just played chrono trigger for over an hour in twenty minutes

i feel like this is actually more of a waste of time on some level

anyway i'm replaying final fantasy vii in a fucking PAL copy on an original playstation so i don't even know

i never would've gotten through Earthbound without the skip key- i doubt i would've made it all the way through if i had a hold of the original SNES cart for more than a rental back in the day. the grind in that game is nuts towards the end

i feel like this is actually more of a waste of time on some level

Yeah! so otm

i totally get that attitude, but it's like sometimes you gotta get through the badly-designed parts to get to the good stuff, i'll give up the badge of honor on certain games, especially the older i've gotten

I am enjoying this

http://thegamedesignforum.com/features/reverse_design_CT_1.html

fave thread

Are you disturbed? Someone ban this freak from the thread. You're a piece of work. It was YOU who started this stupid ass discussion. Now you're saying this shit? Slimy m.f.

Goggles on I'm going ALL CAPS. IM PISSED. talk of 'technical virtuoso' is just so DAMN STUPID. With RACIST OVERTONES. Since when does it have any factor on whether you can CREATE GREAT MUSIC.

Were any of the BEATLES virtuoso on their instruments? Obviously NOT. DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE? OBVIOUSLY NOT.

Was BLUES MUSIC created using 3 simple chords? YES.

IS QUESTLOVE THE MOST TALENTED DRUMMER IN THE WORLD? IS HE IN THE TOP 500? NOPE. DOES HE UNDERSTAND MUSIC? YES. DOES HE MAKE GREAT MUSIC? YES. IS A VIRTUOSO? NO.

JIMI HAD THE SAME SHIT THROWN AT HIM BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU. WAS JIMI A GUITAR VIRTUOSO? NOPE. IS HE RIGHTLY CONSIDERED ONE OF THE GREATEST GUITAR PLAYERS EVER? YUP.

Can PRINCE play bass like BOOTSY? NO. Can he make BASSLINES funky? OBVIOUSLY YES. DOES IT MATTER? NO.

LIKE SOMEONE SAID UP THREAD, JAMES GADSON FUCKING PLAYED THE SUGAH DADDY BEAT ON HIS THIGH. THOSE ARE HIM SLAPPING HIS THIGH. RECORDED. OH BUT MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD, LET'S JUST POINT THAT OUT.

IS HE A VIRTUOSO THIGH PLAYER? NOPE. I'M SURE THERE ARE 100 OR SO VIRTUOSO THIGH SLAPPERS OUT THERE WHO CAN SLAP A THIGH BETTER THAN HE CAN. THEY'VE PROBABLY HAD THAT GIFT SINCE BIRTH. THEY PROBABLY SPENT 30 YEARS SLAPPING THIGHS.

JAMES GADSON ISNT A VIRTUOSO THIGH SLAPPER.

BUT STILLADVANCE IS A VIRTUOSO FOOL.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, December 19, 2014 5:20 PM

LIKE SOMEONE SAID UP THREAD, YASUNORI MITSUDA FUCKING PLAYED THE TYRANO LAIR BEAT ON HIS THIGH. THOSE ARE HIM SLAPPING HIS THIGH. RECORDED. OH BUT MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD, LET'S JUST POINT THAT OUT.

who doesn't do metal air guitar to that theme

has anyone played this on a MOBILE DEVICE??? in particular on ANDROID??? will i be sad if i spend 9.99USD on this???

somebody tell me what to do

if it's chrono trigger, play it

61 mins minimum

Did we seriously never poll the OP?

shoutout to I can play it with my feet without looking directly at the creen.

palsied and horse-like, one love

i'm SURE we did poll it at some point, no?

http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/14/10988880/chrono-trigger-soundtrack-chronicles-of-time-tribute

yikes. anybody listened to this?

watching the video made me a little emotional
at least two versions of the ending them, both sounded good!

http://babycastles.com/event/chrono_trigger__game_of_the_month_club_at_babycastles

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/virtual-reality-palmer-luckey-trump-inauguration

On January 4, Trump's official inauguration committee received a $100,000 donation from a limited liability company named Wings of Time. The inauguration committee filings list an office tower in Los Angeles as the address for Wings of Time, but there is no individual's name associated with the organization.

Luckey has a separate company, Luckey Arms LLC, registered at the same address as the one listed by Wings of Time in the inauguration donation records. And California corporation records list another corporation as the manager of Wings of Time LLC, an entity called Fiendlord's Keep, Inc. Luckey is listed in the records as the sole officer for Fiendlord's Keep. Luckey and his attorney did not respond to requests for comment.

And for those who are curious, Wings of Time and Fiendlord's Keep aren't random names. They're elements from a popular video game originally for Super Nintendo called Chrono Trigger. According to a 2015 Forbes profile, Chrono Trigger is one of Luckey's favorite games.

nooooo

we talked about it a bit in the casual sexism thread

Do we have a "time travel in games" thread? I read a good article and wanted to talk about it. this is the first one I could think of, naturally

https://i.imgur.com/gOrgxwE.png

it me

I picked up some SNES-style RPGs on the Steam sale - CrossCode and HEARTBEAT. Haven't played HEARTBEAT yet but Crosscode is fun and quick to pick up - I got an old Falcom game called "Trails in the Sky" at the same time and the intro is just excruciatingly long. I don't care how much time you spent on the opening FMV, I DON'T WANT TO WATCH IT.

FMVs suck so bad

word

heartbeat was good

trails is my favorite rpg series but i think it only really appeals to dedicated anime storygamers, that first game has about 20 hours of slow burn worldbuilding before the plot emerges. i dont remember it having fmv other than the standard anime intro movie in every japanese game

the way i feel is, if you can’t tell your story with sprites then why are you making a video game

Maybe they prefer vector graphics

No probably Trails in the Sky is not _that_ bad but I feel like games are more along the lines of what I want to play today than they were ten years ago or however many years ago that game came out, the difference between the trite repetitive dialogue and boring unskippable cut scene versus booting up the modern game Crosscode and jumping right into "Hey let's do some cool stuff" was night and day for me, I'm old and overstimulated. See also why I couldn't get into any Zelda games between OOT and BOTW, the whole "Hey before you start why don't you play a mandatory animal herding minigame and do a bunch of other stupid bullshit". Shit, you know what I will do if I want an infodump? I will read one of the several dozen books in my backlog.

play ys origin if you want a falcom game that would be more to your taste then

I'll probably get back to Trails in the Sky to be honest; it's just the whole steam sale thing where I have like seven new games and I can't play them all at once. Honestly I feel like this whole binging model is why I had 100 sale/bundle games that I never actually played and it's why I didn't buy basically any Steam games at all for the past three years and just played Civ V.

Anyway Chrono Trigger is a fun game even if Earthbound is more my jam.

you'll probably like heartbeat then, its more earthbound/pokemon than squaresoft

plus it's apparently one of those games where everybody is queer which i am all about

spinal function

plus it's apparently one of those games where everybody is queer which i am all about

― Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Friday, July 5, 2019 2:28 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

welp despite all this, this game's devs have been exposed as massive TERFs and are currently doubling down on it in gross ways, so i retract all my previous recommendations and C&P votes for the game

I miss Chrono Trigger.

I'm trying to beat the game again but witht the Frog ending and I just can't seem to beat Lagos - probably because I don't have some of the characters. You can go back from the end caves and grind up without messing up the ending right?

i was online shopping late last night and ordered a super famicom. sooooo excited. it comes with 5 games: art of fighting, super river fishing 2, mario rpg, yoshis island, and... chrono trigger!

coincidentally i just hacked my SNES Classic to add a bunch of sadly overlooked games, including CT. haven't let myself start replaying it yet though, what's the rush?

It so happens I am nearing completion of this game for the first time ever. I know I'm 25 years late to the party, but...it's pretty great! I don't usually have the patience for JRPGs, but this one is special.

I'm so excited for you both to be starting this excellent game. not really ready to play it again, but please report and let me live vicariously

yes!

I just finished replaying this for the first time since high school, and like, WOW.. I was worried I was too over-leveled by the time I got to the final battle with Lavos, since making it through the Black Omen and the Queen Zeal fight was a breeze. But nope, it was just as brutal, challenging and climactic as I hoped it would be. The whole game hypes up this massive showdown with Lavos and it completely lives up to the hype. What an absolute masterpiece of a game.

Except for the extra Lost Sanctum dungeons in the DS version. They really suck.

Lavos is really fuckin tough. also, lol at the OP

my own GZeus-styoe claim is that Wind Scene was my most played Spotify track for two years running, and probably will be again

style

The GZeus really made an excellent contribution to this website with that opening post, didn't he

this is a jam

https://ostilmusic.bandcamp.com/track/chrono-trigger-epic-piano-medley

I’d love to have my kid try this out and like it one day. Terranigma too, but Chrono Trigger seems more likely.

a memory card failure and other mishaps have prevented me from ever having finished this game. does anyone know if the PC version is acceptable now? or is an emulator the best way to play if i don't have a console its been ported to?

SPINAL FUNCTION

xpost ROM loaded onto hacked SNES Classic Mini

bump this thread whenever you play a game for over an hour

yeah i played on the SNES Mini and it worked great. Couldn't get Terranigma to work sadly.

i have an 8bitdo snes style controller so i think i can just use that with the rom on my PC

for terranigma you'll need to do some additional hacking, iirc --- installing another emulator 'core' or something like that. as i delved into this i realized i could also make my Mini act as a Genesis emulator, or any other system for which that controller is enough, and i got distracted.

Update: I started a New Game+ and beat Lavos just with Crono and Marle at the start of the game to get the development room ending.. weirdly enough it was much easier than when I played it with three characters? I guess by then I knew the strategies for beating it so that made it easier

I never got too far into Terranigma. I have beaten Soul Blazer though!

Update: I started a New Game+ and beat Lavos just with Crono and Marle at the start of the game to get the development room ending THE GAME 3 times

i remember thinking Terranigma was super charming watching a buddy play it on a computer in high school. started it once on emu myself and got up to a fight with a big... bird? on top of a mesa? (might be mixing this up with Seiken Densetsu 3) and lost track of it.

Soul Blazer i tried out recently on the aforementioned hacked SNES Mini. i liked the feel of the combat, but the linearity of the quests became truly oppressive --- go into the dungeon, beat some monsters, this releases someone back in town, go back to town, they give you something you need to get a little further in the dungeon... repeat. and then the difficulty of the bosses was off the charts disproportionate to everything else... just not my bag.

Wow, how have I never even heard of Terranigma before now? Looks good!

it was never released in the US is probably why, only japan and europe

unless you're from europe and then i dont know

I've now finished the (surprisingly underwhelming?) Dream Devourer ending. I've done it. I BEAT THE GAME 3 times

i could never get v far in terranigma

i like its music and Ideas more than the actual gameplay

same for actraiser

Just got through Magus’s shitty-ass castle. Man that was a SLOG. You finish a battle, walk up three steps, and start another goddamn battle. Repeat the process a zillion times.

this genre might not be for you

ehh 90s ones had way higher forced encounter rates than the genre ended up settling on in the ps2 to present era

The high random encounter rate was always something you put up with, unfortunately, thanks for Dragon Quest setting the standard for so long. CT at least gave you the option to avoid many of the fights

what's the closest thing to CT in the modern era? preferably something i can play on PS4...
I tried Nino Ku Ni and enjoyed it for a few hours, but it felt a bit samey after a while and the battle system was extremely laboured and confusing.

I Am Setsuna uses a Chrono Trigger-esque battle system but I find it hard to get invested in the game/story

Dragon Quest XI is the most "modern jrpg for people who like 90s jrpgs" game available i think. plus shares the toriyama character designs and vibe with CT of course.

unless you want actual retro stuff like uhh Cosmic Star Heroine is an alright one, indie games that are mimicking 90s games

ah cool. yeah i'm not fussy about it being topdown/old-style, just looking for a similar vibe. i really miss CT but i'm not quite ready to dust down the SNES and play it again yet.

Dragon Quest XI on switch has an interesting feature which I've never tried myself: the default is a 3D world, but you can switch the graphics/level layouts over to topdown/old-style, with all the same characters, enemies, items, stats, etc.

I can't remember if you have a switch, DL, but if you do it might be a good option!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAzOLsMoojQ

sadly don't have a Switch, although might be worth me looking out for a s/h one at some point. I love my PS4 but there's something about those Nintendo games, it's a different vibe. From what I can see, most modern JRPGs are just a bit too... I dunno, there's something a bit dorky and hollow about a lot of them

i hear you

i have trouble getting through them. i also don't absolutely love playing a silent 10 year old boy who walks around with other precocious children before realizing a)he must become the chosen one, b) he has to defeat the chosen one, c) but he's not sure if he's really the chosen one. that sure is the plot to every single game of all time, yikes

persona 5 was legitimately good.

the ones without silent protags are the best ones imo (yes this excludes dragon quest. and persona. and chrono trigger.)

anyone playing the re-release of chrono cross? i'm downloading it now

ive heard pretty mixed opinions about this game and this port, so i have no idea what to expect

everyone seems to be complaining, so i'm waiting to see if it gets patches or abandoned

my first impression so far is that the game is incredible but the frame rate sucks ass. i have no idea how it compares to the ps1 original though

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:6pqbvcojurzrkujba6azgokz/bafkreie5nj4niguv2nnmd3afdoyf7qpbnuh3n7fvasyblcw7xzcy3zdlju@jpeg

https://mediamaster.vandal.net/i/620x426/3-2020/202031114472828_1.jpg

The lads

I put this down at the last boss like a year ago. Good reminder to finish this