Red Dead Redemption

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAvyU-kHKyg

high hopes for this

I was looking forward to it before, but after the trailer it has probably become my most anticipated game of 2010.

I'm a sucker for games set in the Old West but there aren't many of them, and usually they're a bit of a letdown, but this looks great.

This interests me way more than any GTA ever did. Setting makes such a huge difference.

The trailer looks great! From its looks it'll be somewhat more RPG-y than GTAs have been; I'm thinking of the scenes killing bears, though maybe those are just parts of quests rather than RPG random encounters.

(xpost) seems also there's more emphasis on strategy and planning your next move in RDR, whereas with GTA it's often "get in car, cause chaos, get back to the garage before the cops catch you"

wow looks awesome

looks dope, like deadwood: the game in parts. too bad i don't generally have time for open-ended sandbox epics.

woah wasn't even on my radar before I watched that, def anticipating it now

okay i will admit, that is a REALLY GOOD trailer. seems to be really inspired by The Wild Bunch which is pretty cool.

how is this related to Red Dead Revolver? direct sequel? not really?

No relation except for the name and western setting (from what I understand).

Pretty sure I am going to play this until my fingers fall off.

i think it has the quick-time red-dead aiming device, too

That video actually reminds me of fallout 3 in lots of ways.

(xpost) "Dead Eye Targeting System"

Looks like gta out west basically , which is ok by me.

I missed that there was an excellent, new trailer going over weapons and death...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_cKIMrkUY

still don't have ps3 or xbox but God I loved Red Dead Redemption

Revolver I mean

you are a good man, that game is so much fun.

this better not suck

this looks pretty good! beautiful even. let me get real here, those horses' asses looked impressive.

but i hope there is more going on w/ the gameplay than an old west GTA

being able to set buildings on fire looks boss; I just hope it's not merely something the designer has to specially trigger, but that you can just chuck a fire bottle at any barn you like and poof.

I'd be very surprised if you could actually set buildings on fire. In that video the molotov cocktail looks like an animation that'll burn out over time. But that would be AWESOME.

It would be awesome! This is one of the things that bugs me about playing for mass destruction in GTA: you can blow up cars but you can't reconfigure the city, which seems so un-sandbox-like (like, isn't the point of a sandbox to kick over your siblings' castles?)

Yeah, environment destruction is like the holy grail of sandbox games. Especially if it stayed like that and effected gameplay in the future, the way it (apparently) does in Battlefield. I remember some BS about gta4 saying something to that effect was in it. You can go into every building and you can blow up buildings and when you shoot a building the bullethole stays for 100 yrs and also it is a fun game

also u sound like the meanest brother ever fwiw

haha well when my kids play in sandboxes, they each build castles and then kick each others' over; it's not what I'd do but it seems to be lots of fun for them.

in Saints Row 2 you can blow up the subway train on the elevated tracks and if you hit it hard enough (I did it using cheats) it falls off the tracks and disrupts traffic. It's cool b/c it's a huge train, not just a bunch of cars like you can set up in GTA4. But leveling a building would be orders of magnitude more fun.

Red Dead Redemption would be a good place to try this b/c I expect the urban environments will be pretty sparse compared to e.g. Liberty City.

hopefully they'll turn their hand to another bully after this

antexit / Euler - a few points 1. Battlefield isn't a sandbox game. 2. in the last Red Faction game you could destroy pretty much everything (that was kind of the point of the game) and it stayed destroyed - but destroying stuff endlessly gets boring fast - it's hardly the "holy grail." 3. Permanent environmental destruction certainly will not be in Red Dead Redemption as they're using basically the exact same engine as GTA 4

well yeah destroying things endless does get boring fast, but so do sandbox games generally when all you do is mass destruction. The good sandbox games, like Bully, give you things to do that are fun besides just going nuts. But in an environment like Liberty City it'd be great if you could destroy buildings and then they'd be replaced with new ones, à la Sim City.

a little more new footage (in this ad for Gamestops lame pre-order bonus deal)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ9WUStl4vE

lol at 'realistic physics' that involve people flying backwards when they get shot

I thought people did fly backwards when they were shot with shotguns. Have movies, video games, and Luis Guzman in Carlito's Way led me astray?

I've shot a big stuffed animal with a shotgun from 50 yards away and man did that thing fly.

i think milo's point was that the silliness of people putting a lot of work into developing a realistic engine, and making it a selling point of the game, all for the ultimate goal of making people fly backwards when they get shot.

I just realised this game is probably going to have similar online modes to GTA4

0_o awesome

considering a PS3 just for this

^^^

the MP lobby... is the game world

"Seriously, who'd have thought that something as dry as a game lobby could be exciting? Leave it to Rockstar to prove us all wrong. The Grand Theft Auto developer recently unveiled the oft rumoured but never confirmed, multiplayer portion of its next open-world saga, Red Dead Redemption -- and the lobby might be the game's most exciting element. Why? Because it's practically a Wild West MMORPG.

The lobby is a fully playable version of the entire game world that's populated with both random CPU characters and live gamers -- though the numbers will never approach World of Warcraft levels. In our visit, we created a "posse" with friends and roamed freely about the map, engaging in activities from hunting wild animals to hunting other gamers. There are even ad hoc missions (like besieging a desert ranch filled with bandits) that feel a lot like raids. Whether running from the sheriff or shooting wildlife in the desert, everything we do can net us experience points which are used to customize our appearance and upgrade our horse, weapons, and "title". There are also new multiplayer modes to unlock like the standard 16-player deathmatch and a team-based "capture the bag" (both of which start with a spectacular face-to-face quick-draw duel). But. to be honest, we didn't spend a lot of time with those other modes, because we couldn't pry ourselves away from the lobby!"

Picture 1: Two players on a horse-drawn carriage. "The lobby is like a limit-free version of GTA IV's free roam mode set against a brilliantly atmospheric Wild West backdrop."

Picture 2: Player as Sheriff, points gun at camera; another player waits to shot him in the back. "Once we joined a party-- er, "posse" -- we were in constant communication with teammates."

Picture 3: 3 on 5 Gunfight near the wreckage of an abandoned church in the desert. "Anyone can travel to any point on the map (including building interiors), regardless of the location of lobby visitors."

This game is going to pwn my life

This game is going to give meaning to my life.

This game probably won't affect my life much but I'm looking forward to it.

chances of me not going outlaw immediately upon starting this approx 0%, with rounding. the old west is not the kinda place to be a good guy imo.

I always play moral choice games as a good guy with a cruel streak.

I am officially mega-psyched about this game

this looks a lot better than call of juarez 2. wish i had a ps3.

Why do people keep saying ps3? Is this an exclusive? Do third-party exclusives still exist?

Def not an exclusive. I'm already preordered for the 360.

uh i just picked that up in this thread somehow, you're right obviously and i need coffee. good news!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKt3AbXiiPA

oh man

Multiplayer Free Roam trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFHATzQ7BeI

ye gods that looks incredible. ilg posse in effect

http://grab.by/3COo

If I get this when it comes out, it's just going to totally take over every free second of my existence, right?

Pretty sure I'm going to spend hours just wandering around doing side missions.

"go on a gentle hunt together"

am *really* looking forward to this.

i am so so pumped for this. if this game doesn't absolutely rule i will never allow myself to dream again.

The good thing about this coming out in late May is I don't know of a single other game that is coming out till September or maybe October that I have any interest in, so if it lives up to the videos, I should have plenty of time to get the most out of it.

also near my birthday; boosts the chance that I might actually get this game

have thought exactly the same jeff

if i do get this i think i'll have to resign myself to not finishing it or seeing 'everything', and just look at it like i'm going wander around deadwood for an hour or two. otherwise it might drive me insane.

"go on a gentle hunt together"

If your group is anything like the guys I used to game with, that'll last about 30 seconds into the first dispute re:loot. Then it'll turn into Reservoir Dogs, Wild West style.

oh and if multiplayer games can be customised to only allow knives and dynamite as in Lucasarts Outlaws, then this should be fun fun fun

this looks great, but i think i'll have to wait until i finish off lost planet 2 and smg 2

shameful - I forgot about Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Sin & Punishment 2

http://boards.ign.com/red_dead_redemption/b6186/187697867/p1

** Each NPC follows their own routine and way of a life. For example,
one spend all day working in a blacksmith, then at closing time head
off to the saloon for a couple drinks before going home.
*** NPCs will converse with each other
**** You can converse with NPCs yourself
** NPCs can hold grudges. A man you beat up in the saloon may come back later with a gun.
** NPC houses can be broken into and robbed
*** NPCs store possessions in boxes and trunks in their houses.
** NPC towns can be wiped out and made into ghost towns
*** Ghost towns will revive in 2-3 in-game days
** In the wilderness rarely a minute passes without seeing some indication of an NPC
*** NPCs play an important part of free roaming, through random encounters
**** NPCs can be found doing a large assortment of things, from
ambushes to gunfights to hostage scenarios to simple things like
sitting around a campfire telling stories of Marston's earlier exploits
* Bank Robbing
** Initiated by having a gun drawn in a bank
* Dueling
** Can't duel everybody (like old women), but you can duel other gunslingers

** The World is, in total, roughly twice the size of San Andreas
*** The World is split into three large regions, each larger than GTA IV's Liberty City

maybe i shouldn't get this game, just the thought is overwhelming

** The World is, in total, roughly twice the size of San Andreas
*** The World is split into three large regions, each larger than GTA IV's Liberty City

holy what

this is one game i'm really looking forward to, god i hope it lives up to those vid clips. not really bothered about multi play but if there's an ilg posse i'm in. what should i get it for 360 or ps3?

uh want it now

whoa this is coming out the same day as alan wake. decisions.

More like Alan Wait

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/red-dead-redemption-hands-on_5

UK RRP £55 :/

can't get into that link from work, but is that not the limited edition?

ok yeah, it's £50 for the bogstandard one and £37 on shopto

don't get paying extra money for some stickers and a branded pen special edition

bookmarking that post so i can quote it in 50 years when my limited edition copy is the feature item on an episode of antiques roadshow. in your face mpx4a.

and a 80 year old Fearne Cotton crooning "amaaaazing"?

don't get paying extra money for some stickers and a branded pen special edition
― MPx4A, Friday, April 9, 2010 1:15 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

paging lamp

I'm getting kinda GTAIV pre-hype flashbacks here. I remember reading one article which said hey, in multiplayer, if you like, you and a buddy can just go for a drive and listen to the stereo and have a chat. Somehow that sounded amazing to me, but did I ever do it in game? Well course not, cos it would've felt ridiculous.

"Gentle hunt" is having a similar effect, it just sounds great to me at the moment. But will I ever do it? Hmm.

I thought the same thing, but a ramble around a huge peaceful landscape with discernable goals that impact your MP profile is different than driving around the same streets you're already sick of from the campaign, doing nothing

I am pretty sure I will be a lone wolf in the multiplayer lobby, not a roam-in-packs guy.

you and a buddy can just go for a drive and listen to the stereo and have a chat

you can't do this in gta4 iirc. the stereo part that is.

this looks to be a more zen like experience, to truly roam at last

This looks so rad! haha my little brother is going to hate me for dominating the 360.

"We have just over 500 characters who all have names, family members and jobs," said Josh Bass, head of art."You can see a man at 7 a.m. in a Mexican market manning the chicken stand and at 6 p.m. he'll go over to the local pub."

"The morally ambiguous cowboy is the perfect protagonist for the style of game we make," observed Houser. "Sometimes you can be the hero, sometimes you can be the bad guy, and sometimes while you're deciding what to do, a bear comes out of nowhere and eats someone."

- LA times write-up

New trailer that goes over the competitive multiplayer player modes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jj0E1l3rjw

400 free M$ pts for downloading a trailer? wut?
http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/RDRgiveaway/default.htm

looks like i chose a terrible week to send my xbox off with Red Ring Of Death

UK only. :(

I thought this was coming out tomorrow but its not until 5/18

=(

aw it's only a week off, cant wait. just caught the tv ad again.

Who wants to place money on when the first MAJOR bug hits, a la GTAIV?

don't want to bring a faint air of car boot sale to the thread but this can be had from tesco for £27 w/codes & quidco for uklxors

http://www.gamestracker.com/int/extprice.asp?id=13368465

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1068/mapig.jpg

Totally buying this. Without question.

really hoping this at least provides me with more than an evenings entertainment, which all my recent purchases lately have failed to do.

ste, apparently this is basically GTA: the western

I'm sure it'll have pigeons or some equivalent for you to find ;)

map.jpg is... intersting!!

how are the edges of the map walled off in game terms, i wonder? unscaleable mountains?

first non-square play area i've seen in a sandbox game

ha! cozen, know me faar too well

without copters and such, this'll be a beast to traverse.

i can't believe i'm actually girly excited about riding horses in a vid game

somehow totally managed to not notice the existence of this game. Looks good.

i bet there's railroad based fast movement

Who wants to place money on when the first MAJOR bug hits

and will the bug be one of the npc's malfunctioning and stalking the player FOREVER through the game?

xp, ah yes forgot about the trains

i bet there's railroad based fast movement

Or by boat. There is a giant river through the middle of the thing.

no swimming in this though, which is a throwback to GTA3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NUjbORZueU

I wonder if they'll do DLC episodes for this too; hope so

gta makers have a knack of creating really great characters as well, this looks like no exception

oh man is that wes studi's voice?!?

The thing about potential bugs and having 500 NPCs with their own personalities/routines reminds me of the Oblivion guys saying they actually had to scale back and limit the AI because of the problems it caused; they had a guy in a village work in a field at certain times of the day but somebody else in the village used his hoe or some shit and he attacked him for stealing it and the village ended up rioting in a way that broke the game

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SbqmniDL190/SPC2LyRHBBI/AAAAAAAABE0/HOlgZDLPHEw/s320/westworld.jpg

http://sharetv.org/images/guide/337843.jpg

ordered from tesco a dilion.

time to go on media blackout
http://i44.tinypic.com/14e9iko.jpg

Eurogamer review up

rave in 2days nyt

my wife preordered this for me for my birthday. don't know how amazon times these things but hopefully I should get it this week.

Despite the temptation to chop and change between horses (different breeds offer different levels of obedience, speed or stamina), there are benefits in sticking to a favourite, as in time you build loyalty which results in stamina bonuses, allowing you to run at full pelt for longer before tiring the horse. As you begin to clock up the miles together across, hill, canyon and stream, you form a bond - and this relationship between protagonist and transport, the kind alluded to in the great Westerns, is undoubtedly one of Red Dead Redemption's greatest successes.

cool!

time to go on media blackout

You've played this, right?

allowing you to run at full pelt

inventing new meanings for "pelt?"

Never mind, I just am not used to seeing it as "rush or hurry."

Should I go to my Gamestop release party for this tonight at 12:01??

only if you go in costume

I'll dress like John Wayne in Liberty Vallance.

http://www.distinctlymontana.com/uploads/Fall_06_Mag/Articles/2%20inspire/dorthy%20johnson/big/recycled_cinema_john_wayne_montana.jpg

How do I shot Liberty Valance?

Via Mitch Krpata, here's a collection of quotes from that NY Times guy:

"In the more than 1,100 articles I have written for this newspaper since 1996, I have never before called anything a tour de force. Yet there is no more succinct and appropriate way to describe Red Dead Redemption."

"Nier does many different things at such a high level of sophistication and accessibility that I cannot think of another single game of recent years that more faithfully represents the sheer intellectual breadth of modern video games."

"I have probably spent 10,000 hours playing various sorts of electronic games. But no single-player experience has made me as genuinely nervous, unsettled, surprised, emotionally riven and altogether involved as Heavy Rain... No other game in recent memory has forced me to reach for a blanket at 11 a.m. because I am literally shivering in nervous tension."

"Even more important to a great game of this sort is that it provide players with a world they actually care about saving (in this case defeating the demon menace by rallying mages, elves, dwarves and men to the cause). That means setting, plot and personalities, and it is in these elements that Dragon Age is perhaps the best electronic game yet made."

"No game this year will be more controversial and more easily misrepresented than Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. That is because it revolves around the most provocative, forcefully uncomfortable and emotionally disturbing scene yet built into interactive entertainment."

"Uncharted 2 is perhaps the best-looking game on any system, and no game yet has provided a more genuinely cinematic entertainment experience."

"No game so far this year delivers a deeper, more fully realized aesthetic experience than Brütal Legend."

"By reinterpreting an essential symbol of one generation in the medium and technology of another, The Beatles: Rock Band provides a transformative entertainment experience. In that sense it may be the most important video game yet made."

"Even as I was losing game after game to the likes of the Pirates and the Royals, it was obvious that MLB 10 is perhaps the most finely calibrated, lusciously animated, fanatically detailed team sports game yet made."

"Lara Croft should go run and hide in a closet because Bayonetta, the character, is both more alluring and more powerful than any female game lead I can recall. Likewise, Bayonetta, the game, is more alluring and more powerful than any big-budget game to come out of Japan in recent years."

"Batman: Arkham Asylum may not provide the definitive superhero experience, but it is the finest, most intelligent comic-book game yet and one of the best video games of the year."

"Fight Night Round 4 is, for now, the greatest of all time. There has never been a more visceral, precise and natural electronic simulation of hand-to-hand combat."

"Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars is one of the most subversive, provocative video games of recent years. It may also be one of the most important, not because of its content but because of how it is delivered."

"As an essential, visceral science-fiction combat fantasy, Killzone 2 is one of the most enjoyable console shooters yet."

lolololol

hes a good dude. just a little enthusiastic

you probably have to be hyperbolic to get video games covered in the NYT, I'm guessing. If you can't justify it as "the best ever" or "important" in some way, they're not going to cover it.

sounds oscar worthy

mighty traversy

that horse things sounds interesting, i hope there's more cool stuff like that involved.

I like Scheisel's enthusiasm; I get more annoyed with his need to make bizarre analogies with major news events to games.

I wonder how they recorded the sounds for this. You need to get the rifle, shotgun, and pistol sounds just right for proper western fun.

i dont trust this shit

Despite the temptation to chop and change between horses (different breeds offer different levels of obedience, speed or stamina), there are benefits in sticking to a favourite, as in time you build loyalty which results in stamina bonuses, allowing you to run at full pelt for longer before tiring the horse. As you begin to clock up the miles together across, hill, canyon and stream, you form a bond - and this relationship between protagonist and transport, the kind alluded to in the great Westerns, is undoubtedly one of Red Dead Redemption's greatest successes.

cool!

― taylory dayne (goole), Monday, May 17, 2010 11:29 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this is so the kind of thing that makes u say cool when u read it in a review but then either has no bearing on the game or is just kind of annoying (like the "hanging out with pals" part of GTA4)

although i've been waiting for a game to really realize the relationship between protagonist and transport, that has been alluded to in so many great westerns

video game writing is a disgrace imo

hs classmate is engaged to one of the writers /suzy

As you begin to clock up the hours hanging out together in building, street, or park, you form a bond - and this relationship between protagonist and pals, the kind alluded to in the great crime dramas, is undoubtedly one of GTA's greatest successes.

future GTA installments need cadres of guys on the corner practicing their doo-wop harmonies

yeah, this sounds enough like GTA 4, which I didn't like very much, that I'm gonna pass on it until, maybe, it hits the cheap bins.

jesus those quotes.

skipping this for tow truck simulator

sort of annoyed i bought it off tesco since i could actually be playing it now if i just went to Game while i was taking a donner up Sauchiehall St. earlier. I mean i saved a tenner or whatever, but so fuck? :/

i don't understand the question.

xp at least you won't get chilli sauce all over the controller.

xp. rhetorical. replace "fuck" with "what" to get the meaning.

"a donner", and i have no idea how you spell it, is a scottishism for "a walk".

although i've been waiting for a game to really realize the relationship between protagonist and transport, that has been alluded to in so many great westerns

waiting ever since u forgot about shadow of the colossus

You guys are crazy. Just got my copy. Minute UPS delivers my repaired 360, I'm booting this baby up.

So are people breaking street date on this or something? It's not due until Friday, right?

It's out today.

No I mean for Britishers.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=red+dead+redemption&x=0&y=0&sprefix=red+dead

(just went here to double check dates, but what's this about native resolutions? Planned to play it on 360 anyway but still)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dead_Redemption

ah i thought it was out here today. My bad.

damn those murkins.

PS3 version looks like a dog
http://sunset-riders.smartcode.com/images/sshots/sunset_riders_15368.png

spoiler alert would be nice next time, pal

I got a deck of cards with my purchase. At least I can play something RDR related until my 360 comes back!

http://home.comcast.net/%7Echeetah24/wabbit.jpg

man the reviews are so positive on this...

it's really fun, so far. lots of hunting and fighting off gangs.

only complaint is the bounty system. seems like it will take the fun out of being a villain, but i have yet to fully test it.

Rented the game this morning and I just played it for four or five hours straight. The game is fantastic and fun etc but I don't think I can afford to give this game the thirty or forty hours it deserves and for that I feel old and ashamed. :-(

i thought jim was taking a kebab for a stroll. and i live in glasgow.

they showed a trailer for this during 3.10 TO YUMA on C5 on sunday

Pissed this ain't out for PC for probably another year. How's the sound?

I was off on the first mission and afterwards some dude comes upon me getting attacked by a pack of wild dogs. I shot him to death on accident.

What's the verdict on this game? PS3 or 360? Is the online any good? Worth waiting for? I can play it now if I get the 360 version but if I was going to get PS3, which is where I do my online, I'd have to wait.

i think i'm gonna get this for ps3 today unless somebody convinces me 360 is a better choice

360 has better framerate and crisper graphics (for some reason, Rockstar locked the PS3 at 640p, not the 720p of the 360), PS3 has some free extra outfits like a tophat, and my friends are really surprised by the fun of the online game (they're on the 360, BTW).

TOPHAT

some dude comes upon me

Not the game I was expecting.

but no white tie or tails. :(

xpost

obligatory
http://i44.tinypic.com/24y20yt.gif

why is the colour space so incredibly different?

a little suspicious tbh

im betting someone just snapped a photo of their screen, that would explain it

same tv? same camera?

xp heh

one looks like a screenshot, the other looks like a digital photo.

yeah, one's a direct capture the other's a cellcam pic off an SD tv

of the nds version

at dusk

you can't ride the horse on 360? shit

yeah, no triangle button i guess.

unfortunate I guess but there's got to be some trade-off for those extra pixels

One of those pictures is in diffuse cloudy light, and the other is in direct starlight.

one of those horses has built up "relationship points" with the user, the other hasn't

one of those horses has denied your friend request, the other hasnt

uhhh what is a horse all i see is a transport

all i see is a relationship

PS3 shot was snapped from the back of a passing horse

I wish I were playing this right now. They claimed they shipped out my Xbox on Monday, but UPS hasn't shown any pick-up activity yet (only billing information received). Maybe I'll luck out and get it by the weekend.

vote forks compiles and uploads a custom soundtrack for this

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PC5BNPDVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5116M6KSQGL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Only if soundtrack is as well curated as that Fallout 3 soundtrack someone (forks? someone) made here a bit ago.

http://dkpresents.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/alturkkaan_ennio_morricone_-_the_good_the_bad_and_the_ugly_-_expanded1.jpg

Forks made it. It had some real nice tracks on it.

trying to exert impulse control on this one but man i am having a hard time doing so, esp since i feel like price drops on this are going to be like a million years from now, judging by the effusive praise its getting.

thought it might come in the mail today, it didn't. makes me feel like when I was 11 and lived overseas and ordered this:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/atari-st-games/18-1.jpg

and it took like 6 months for me to get it. or maybe it just felt like 6 months.

memories lasted a lifetime tho

Does PS3 version support custom soundtracks? If not maybe that will be my decider

it does yup

i am so inordinately excited about this that i will do something drastic if i'm disappointed by it: i.e. bitch on this thread.

this game is sitting right in front of me but there is no xbox to play it on b/c of bloody rrod. next time my 360 gets rrod, putting it out of warranty, i'm just getting a ps3. fuck this shit.

you could always pretend that you are playing meta-game Read Redemption of Death

you could get all your xbox games together and pretend they are action figures

this is dope imho but my one moan so far is that the game does a pretty good job of drawing me into the setting and the characters, and then someone wants me to race horses or do a timed challenge shooting birds, and suddenly i can see straight thru the old west lacquer to GTA underneath and it spoils the wahmbience. i kinda wish they had played it straighter.

I would think random dudes challenging you on rep to impromptu shooting or riding contests was probably more common in the old west than it was in 2004 new york city or whatever

Since I couldn't play this, I watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance instead. So good.

For those who've actually played this, how's the sound design?

okay, I'm gonna get this on 360
and i'm gonna make y'all a custom country soundtrack now too.

this is rad. sound design is really good as far as i can tell. i just experienced my first rainstorm and the wind, rain, and thunder rolling through the hills was spot on. guns sound like the should. not too light, not too meaty. they've got a little echo to them that sounds (i imagine) realistic. horses look beautiful and sound like horses. horse footsteps on wooden floors are good and heavy sounding. nice touch. i was expecting a straight morricone pastiche of a soundtrack but it's a little more varied and subtle for the most part.

it's the same basic gameplay as any of the GTA games, but it still manages to feel significantly different tbh. thus far.

Since I couldn't play this, I watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance instead. So good.

― Mordy, Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:08 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

maybe i'll do that tonight...

Okay gents, here's a first volume of a red dead country mix. It's all over the place recording wise but there's a clear throughline for intention I think.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KJCRC4BQ

Here's the tracks in no particular order; I'd recommend shuffle here.

Buck Owens - I Got A Tiger By the Tail(1965)
Cherryholmes - Black and White (2007)
Cherryholmes - Don't Believe (2008)
Anonymous Young Girls - Hopali (1930's?)
The Carter Family - See That My Grave Is Kept Green (1933)
Cinderella G Stump - Temptation (1947)
The Carter Family - Keep On the Firing Line (1941)
Chet Atkins - Tennessee Stud (?)
Bill Monroe and Doc Watson - Chicken Reel (1963)
Alex Hood's Railroad Boys - L and N Rag (?)
Alfred G Karnes - I Am Bound for the Promised Land (?)
Alfred G Karnes - We Shall All Be Reunited (?)
Basil May - The Lady of Carlisle (?)
The Carver Boys - Sisco Harmonica Blues (?)
Bascom Lamar Lunsford - Lulu Wall (1939)
Buell Kazee - A Short Life of Trouble (1939)
Charlie Bowman and His Brothers - Moonshiner and His Money (1929)
Blue Highway - Where Did the Morning Go? (2007)
Charlie Poole and The North Carolina Ramblers - If the River Was Whiskey (?)
Cal Stewart - Monkey on a String (?)
Ben Curry - I Heard the Voice of a Pork Chop (?)
Ben Curry - It's A Fight Like That (?)
Daddy Stovepipe and Mississippi Sarah - The Spasm (?)
Bill Carlisle - Feet Don't Fail Me (?)
Asher Sizemore and Little Jimmie - Little Jimmie's Goodbye to Jimmie Rodgers (?)

Impressions (and in-game usage stories) very much welcome.

Btw, sorta off-topic, but if any of you are interested in Westerns, and particular The Searchers and The Man Who Shot..., Robert Pippin had a piece in Critical Inquiry recently called "What is a Western? Politics and Self-Knowledge in John Ford's The Searchers" that is really amazing and an incredible read. I've got a copy if anyone wants (get in touch and I'll send it along). It's about how these films mythologize the civilizing of America by demonstrating how society is formed on top of violent encounters, and how that violence is never fully sublimated. Tho I haven't gotten to RDR yet, it's clearly a trope that's embraced by the game -- a man who has formed a family but is called forth by his violent history.

He's got this coming out this week: http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Westerns-American-Myth-Importance/dp/0300145772

Kinda serendipitous to have RDR + this book in the same month, at least for me.

Whoops, forgot to eat dinner tonight!

It is seriously thrilling to start a deathmatch with a big standoff.

http://files.erichscholz.com/uploaded_images/Great_silence-732437.jpg

It seems that renowned early dispatchers shopto.net are basically the only games retailer in the UK that didn't send this out early.

hands up if you want to join

posse, money, weed & beer

I played this drunk last night and my horse got killed by some rampaging animal. So I got upset and starting killing anyone I came across to get their horse. I guess your not allowed to murder fools for their horses when you think its convenient. I guess youre supposed to find a riderless horse out there..?

It seems that renowned early dispatchers shopto.net are basically the only games retailer in the UK that didn't send this out early.

tesco sent mine out today and say it will take 3-5 days so not so early over here :(

will probably not get mine until monday either :( x1000000

yeah got email from amazon today, dispatched, arrive Saturday. but i put my works address on the order. DOH.

will look forward to monday anyway

was kind of considering going out to buy this today, but looks like it'll be tomorrow.

was pissed ranting about this to non-game playing friend in pub tonight, i don't think he was quite on my level of excitement.

This game is exactly what I wanted it to be.

Is multiplayer broken or are dudes just whining on the internet?

It worked fine for me.

just got a little too into a poker game.

i won but fuck that dude.

lololol. cannot wait to play this.

is the map fucked up for anyone else? if i try to zoom in and then stop, it will just slowly zoom in and then slowly pan until it is fully zoomed in.

I got eaten by a cougar. :(

Went to target tonight, sold out.

i've never heard of liar's dice before, but it's fun. the mini-games are pretty well done. i don't play texas hold 'em regularly or seriously, but i've been impressed by how realistically these dudes are playing cards.

any truth to the rumour that asda were told they were not allowed to sell the game at a low price and so are not even selling the game at all now out of spite?

Couldn't decide whether to buy this or ModNation Racers, Tesco made my mind up for me by being out of stock of Red Dead Redemption and having MNR for £34.

sorry dude but that is worse than the time jeff lepine didn't buy uncharted 2 for three years

I've got a 9 month old baby, I haven't got enough time in my days for this game.

I'm just messing :)

marston has a flat butt

You're right though, I really really want to buy this.

Massive PS3 Red Dead shortage hits UK

"copies available almost everywhere" isn't really a "massive shortage"

gives websites a chance to say RED DEAD REDEMPTION again, more hits.

sorry dude but that is worse than the time jeff lepine didn't buy uncharted 2 for three years

I've also yet to pick up RDR! I know I started this hype thread, but lately I'm unsure if I really want to play through a long single player game, especially right now. And multiplayer with auto-aim isn't something I can get into. Also too many games I already own at the moment that I'm enjoying (Bad Company 2, various CoD games, TF2, various racing games) or haven't had the time to even get into (like SSFIV).

did u even buy uncharted 2 in the end

yas, tesco delivered today.

no, doing stuff tonight and tomorrow night and working all weekend :(

Went to target tonight, sold out.

― Fists all gnarly and dick-dented (jjjusten), Friday, May 21, 2010 1:41 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

sheeeit

i went to the gamestop in my hood and the very nervous kid behind the counter said to come back maybe in a week

did u even buy uncharted 2 in the end

not yet

i want to buy this and i don't even have a current gen system

multiplayer is p.fun; didn't think I'd touch it tbh but I've just whittled away the afternoon playing the co-op instances and levelling up my donkey

xp ^^^

(neither can I justify the cost or the time outlay)

BRB LEVELLIN' MY DONKEY
god i gotta go buy this today

just a heads up jim, make sure tesco don't charge you full whack despite buying it w/a voucher. read some other reports that they've been funny buggers charging full price w/RDR for some reason

this game is gorgeous

the writing is incredible too; the dialogue is pin sharp and so well acted

I've been preaching for massive multiplayer games to have minigames like poker forever (I haven't played RDR so I'll see how it stacks). Ideally I would have a saloon where you could have chat consoles pop up for the whole place and/or a specific table (so I guess my mmo would be a computer game). Ideally the poker would be texas hold 'em and there would be other games like darts too. Lots of gambling

I might buy this game tonight (even though I'm going out of town soon)

if this is sold out i'm gettin 3-d dot heroes so win win

i bought it today :D 2 hs classmates are in the "population".

Killing me that my 360 isn't back yet.

jeff, there are hardcore playlists in MP which completely disable the auto-aim (unfortunately these have to be unlocked by levelling up, much like in cod)

i will be playing dragon origins and probly fallout 3 in place of this until monday. sigh.

god damn, i say!

Got it! Had to start the night planting stupid lilacs tho, may not get much time with it tonight.

Bought it... going downstairs to play it now.

Stupid Chicago postal system still not delivering this to me.

I got this earlier today and put in several hours, most of them spent just goofing off in the wilderness. My only complaint so far is that often, when I get off my horse momentarily to skin an animal, when it finishes the bloody process, the horse is suddenly far off in the distance. Maybe this is a weird bug, or maybe the game does it on purpose to demonstrate that you have a shitty horse.

this thread inspired me to watch the wild bunch tonight

is red dead redemption as good as the wild bunch?

if you tame a wild horse it constantly wanders off

that was like some dr phil relationship talk right there

I got off my horse once and turn around and suddenly it's perched high up on a boulder lol

got it. an hour later i'm still in tutorial.

The horse will come running to you if you whistle.

meant to spend a couple of hours on this last night, looked at watch and it was past one, not good when you;re supposed to be on early child-wrangling duties. Mostly single player with a wee bit of free roam - am loving the hunting, have managed to get up a few levels - the potential to while away a tranquil hour just wandering, taking in the views and shooting boar and deer - lovely.

Acting is pretty cool, good dialogue so far, especially liked the sherriff in armadillo - only thing am not loving so far is the cover mechanic - seems really clunky and unresponsive - minor gripe tho.

Watched "High Plains Drifter" tonight for the first time ever. Jesus Christ.

jesus, the sky in this game

srsly

the nighttime atmospherics is what gets me, especially when you go for a wander and all of a sudden there's a wild boar charging you

Is there a free-look button? I feel like I want to zoom in on scenery a lot of the time but I just end up accidentally getting a gun out.

The first time I died and woke up at the savepoint I was at 20 minutes ago was a sobering shift from GTA mechanics.

right stick is look around, but there's no zoom, I see in the stats that there's one for binocular use tho, so later in the game we may well get some.

I wish you could drop off hogtied criminals somewhere for honour/fame/cash

(non-bounty criminals that is, like the random hustlers you encounter while riding around)

hands up if you want to join

the shartshooters

*hands up*

yes plz

i'm in. been running around all morning shooting crows and deer and coyotes. VARMINTS

My horse got attacked by wolves and in the confusion I shot my horse in the neck. Woops.

i want to buy this and i don't even have a current gen system

― The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Friday, May 21, 2010 10:56 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

like pretty bad

stayed up way too late last night playing texas hold 'em and forgetting to go shoot shit and ride horses.

xxxpost yeah i tried to help out a lady getting harassed by a drunk and ended up shooting both of them D:

the first thunderstorm you see while riding is whoa

So my 360 finally arrived in Secaucus NJ, a 23 minute drive from my apartment. I hope it comes in tonight, otherwise I won't get to play this till Monday!

It's happened to me twice that I've seen a guy standing on his own in the middle of the wilderness, waving his hands and looking scared, and then I've got off my horse to talk to him, he's immediately tried to ride off on it, and I've shot him and then lost 50 honour as a result.

I too have accidentally shot my horse in the neck, minutes after maxing out its loyalty. I did not skin it. Do you know why? It was out of respect.

anyone found a treasure map? what the hell are those about

you can use them to find treasure

*slaps forehead*

okay a mate said he was riding in this game and saw some bloke get off a horse and take a piss. anyone?

that there seems to be a regular occurrence in these parts.

if someone steals your horse whistle for it and it'll throw him off

I saw a guy pissing in the outhouse outside the bar in Armadillo, complete with animated jet of piss. I bumped into him and he fell over.

His cock wasn't out when he got up though.

goddam this game

I was wondering for a while how to capture outlaws alive until I figured it out by doing Bonnie missions. I don't think I understand how to use cover yet or make the relationship with my horse go up. It's also hard to tell which horses are what kind but I'm loving the game for the atmosphere and stuff... hopefully it won't get old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q7v4F8r9Og

lol sandbox games always have the best bugs.

the perfect woman amirite

Good lord I love this game. Riding around at dawn, hunting some deer, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw

I can confirm that Marston CANNOT swim. I found a cool looking waterfall and thought I'd take a dip, but the instant his head went underwater he died.

Ugh, that sucks.

sucks for HIM!!!

"I never learnt to swim!"
"LOL the fall fact that this is a common problem in just about every video game ever (except Ecco the Dolphin) will kill us"

Tho I guess it's somewhat genre-appropriate (thinking of Butch Cassidy freaking out about leaping off the cliff because he can't swim)

Of course, I WOULD blow all my money on an expensive horse just a few minutes before obtaining the free mission completion horse.

to be fair, that was a common hazard in the old west

I want to kill everyvody I play horseshoes with

played blackjack for an hour and a half last night and lost about $10 :/

I fuckin hate horseshoes
i had no idea i wanted to play texas hold em so much.

liar's dice is fun

glad they corrected my main issue w/GTAIV: the mini games and peripheral activities (hunting, random prairie encounters) are mostly actually fun this time out

on a river bed, i found an old man doubled over holding his head. woman laid out in front of him, bloody and dead. When I stopped and walked up to him, he stood up and shakily held a gun to his own head. I ran up and pushed him and he dropped the gun and alternated between weeping and staring at me angrily until I rode away.

i also shot a dude in the balls and then the head who was trying to knife rape a prostitute outside a bar.

my online persona is a bit of a dick but I'm jimmy goodguy in the single player

I saw the same suicidal dude, but I spent 10 seconds looking at the scene, trying to figure out what the hell was going on, before he killed himself. Most of the little challenges I fail are because I'm sitting there twiddlin' my thumbs trying figure out who to shoot.

ok, when you buy a horse, where is it?

You have to choose it from you item and "use" it, which then switches it in as your default horse.

ahhhh thx

this game is fun. I haven't even tried multiplayer yet. having too much fun with the single-player.

I did see a guy get off his horse in the wilderness and start peeing into a river under a bridge.

I lassoed a guy off a hooker to try and go the taking him alive route, but it just made him fall headfirst into a wall and he died anyway.

The drunk guy that sometimes falls out of the bar seems to be immune to punches. I tried to lasso his body to drag him to the cells for the night and he disappeared, leaving only his hat.

I kind of hope they don't patch any of that shit.

has anyone come across the cannibals or the women being hanged yet o_O

yes!

cannibals was part of one of the "stranger" missions right?

and the women getting lynched thing... i think i failed a couple of those already :/

i've put in an alarming amount of time in on this in the past 48 hours

Cannibal was creepy, wasn't sure whether to just shoot him immediately because he was such a blatant cannibal

Yeah I'm not much of a "sit down and play a game for a long time in one stretch" person but I played for about 2 hours straight this afternoon

there are other cannibals out there too

came across some camp w/a guy preparing to feast on a hogtied feller, campsite was strewn with bones, limbs and a p.detailed severed head

Nb can I not interact with dogs? I feel like I should feed that dog that's always running round.

I ran one over in the dark and lost honour.

I tried to greet the dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYdCvN-ukRY

lol!

Are these definitely glitches and not batshit easter eggs? I mean donkey woman was galloping and birdman is flapping.

Ok, got this today, about to go and get started, and I'm deciding in advance that I'm going to play against my usual nice guy type, and just be a bit of a shithead to pretty much everyone.

xp both look like "wrong graphics asset" type glitches

The shithead approach can get out of hand quick; you could kill a whole town if you wanted! I'm sure somebody is playing as a mass murderer as we speak.

Could the "flying man" thing be a cheat code?

you guys are making this game sound awesome, is there anybody here that doesn't like it?

if it doesn't arrive tomorrow i will barf my brains out

Anyone had any luck with the treasure maps? I'm not sure if they come in a certain order or if it's random, but the first one I got has a noose in the corner of it. I haven't recognized any of the landmarks from the treasure map while traveling around. And I think that you can't move on to the next treasure map until you solve the first.

the noose is a real big clue.

The "I." and "II." on the map also confuse me. I would suck as a real life treasure hunter.

lol. the I. refers to the first landmark and the II. is the second thing to look for, in that vicinty.

I was just trying to find the treasure! I know what the landmark is but couldn't find a place near it that looked like the drawing.

the I. and II. are not necessarily two distinct rocks

you guys are making this game sound awesome, is there anybody here that doesn't like it?

I can't imagine ever not wanting to play this game.

It's pretty great, but suffers from sandbox syndrome; I get lost and distracted constantly and lose the thread of the game proper. Like I don't think I've talked to the chick who saved me since I went to the new town and I gather that's the crux of the game.

I'd recommend playing bonnie's missions forks; that way you'll get the lasso

the noose map is kind of messed up. you have to poke around the area for a bit to find the treasure.

is there another spot to find boar other than the one just to the north of bonnie's ranch? my bait is just pulling cougars and wolves now. need to level up my hunting skillz.

love shooting people's guns out of their hands in duels

                
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   / __ \___  ____/ /  / __ \___  ____ _____/ /
  / /_/ / _ \/ __  /  / / / / _ \/ __ `/ __  / 
 / _, _/  __/ /_/ /  / /_/ /  __/ /_/ / /_/ /  
/_/ |_|\___/\__,_/  /_____/\___/\__,_/\__,_/   
    ____  _______    ______  __ _    ____________ 
   / __ \/ ____/ |  / / __ \/ /| |  / / ____/ __ \
  / /_/ / __/  | | / / / / / / | | / / __/ / /_/ /
 / _, _/ /___  | |/ / /_/ / /__| |/ / /___/ _, _/ 
/_/ |_/_____/  |___/\____/_____/___/_____/_/ |_|  
  
 

I'm enjoying this a lot right now, but I'll admit that my enthusiasm for all the GTA games I've played dropped off significantly after a few weeks, so we'll see if the same thing happens here. However, I think RDR might last longer; the controls seem more intuitive and the missions don't seem as frustrating (so far) and it's more fun riding around in the wilderness alone than in a city full of people.

we just need a bully in this engine now please R*

oh and some RDR DLC episodes too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVXyKP1FVk

lol
"Kill it! It's an abomination!"
"I don't want that thing hanging in my room!"

kind of a theme to these bugs

each one of these missions is a really fun set piece. kudos R!

mission design has been a huuuuge weak spot in every sandbox game i've ever played, up to and incl GTAIV. so, tears of thankfulness over here.

has anyone moved on to the new territories? i really hope those areas open up the world. i like what i'm playing so far, but this sandbox is mostly sand and i only find it so interesting to ride that horse around.

Has the MP posse happened yet? I need to be eased in or I'll let the prospect of being autoshot by feral children put me off the idea altogether.

I shot the cannibal and hog-tied the victim so I could help him back to civilisation, but the ungrateful twat just ran off screaming when I cut him loose. In retrospect I shoulda just hogtied the cannibal and popped him on the train tracks or near some wolves.

What would happen if you dropped the cannibal near some other cannibals

Try dropping the cannibal near Toto Coelo.

still waiting to play with an ilx posse?

i'd love to get into that, but i won't have time for another couple days

i'm gonna talk more about this game, so *SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS*

...

i think i'm around the 40% mark, in the game's second act in Mexico, and i haven't interacted with one indian yet. i don't think there are any in the game at all. i think this is significant, somehow. i like that the game is in 1911, a "late western" about the closing of the frontier rather than an early one about opening it. maybe this is just to allow them to put more interesting guns in the game, or riff off the meta-westerns like the wild bunch or there will be blood (a town called plainview? really?). plus it doesn't shy away from politics at all; every other dude wants to talk to you about federal power. anyway, the setting's early-20th-century-ness is really present and apparent to me and i'm really liking it.

speaking of politics, there's the politics of Rockstar's media reputation, and i'm getting ongoing chuckles from the (what i take to be) anti "hot coffee" vibe of the whole thing. no matter which path you take, the John Marston character is (so far) faithful to his wife as a given. the prostitutes say stuff like "i hate to see a man with the condition of a dry pecker" (no shit i think i heard this) and our killer just says "my wife wouldn't like that" or something.

I think the prostitute line was "I hate to see a man with such a dry pecker... can I help?"

ha i kind of deadwood-ified it

I hate to see a man with dead wood

there HAS to be indians in this

wtf

ha i kind of deadwood-ified it

more like achewood imo

Anyone notice that the gang fights in multiplayer are wayyyy harder than in single player? I guess youre supposed to take them on with more people than my posse of two, but I like the change of pace of an actual challenge. SP is fun and all but pretty fucking easy.

Gonna get a chance to play this while housesitting over the next week and a half, so excited u guys.

oh man this game is sweet

re the injuns thing, i was thinking before i played the game whether they would include any. in the start intro, when your man is on the train, there is something said by the man and daughter in front about it I'm sure, something to do with losing their land. i might be mistaken tho

anyway this game. woah.

and haha have you tried getting on your horse when your stood directly behind

nice that you can still move about freely when on the trains too

the "shoot 5 flying birds from a moving train" challenge was like the chillest assignment I have ever received.

If only real life challenges were so relaxing

loving the treasure map idea, seems challenging.

i'm so early on in this game that something new keeps happening really frequently. it's friggin exciting, but with enough quiet moments to take a breather and decide what to get up to next.

first bug i've found tho, my horses main has changed colour (or is that supposed to happen?). it's definitely the same horse, as i've maxed the stamina on it.

erm, "mane"?

hair

really love the horse control in fact, altho sometimes tricky shooting whilst mounted. without the slow-mo thing i'd be fooked.

How to win at shooting: lock target, quickly shoot, lock target, quickly shoot

I'm trying not to read much of this thread because of tiny spoilers but I agree with whoever said you should be able to drop off hog-tied criminals at jail. Like when someone steals a horse you should be able to get the horse *and* the criminal. What really happens when I return the horse with the hog-tied criminal on top is the guy I helped takes the horse with criminal still on and rides away.

Many criminals that I hogtie end bring back to town end up being called kidnapped victims or something under the stats screen. There's never a bounty or anything but these criminals on the back of my horse shouldn't be called victims and If there is no reward I guess I might as well kill them for a couple bucks :/

But loving this game.
.
.
.
.
**SPOILER**
There's a real easy way to make money in Armadillo.. it's so easy that it shouldn't be allowed.
Yall know what I'm talking about?
**SPOILER**

no, dish

yeah dish it lorax

1. lorax posts
2. ???
3. profit!

I dont think its a spoiler but it might be..

UH SPOILER?

I think you can steal from the bank in Armadillo over and over and over..

Five Finger Fillet is the easiest game to quickly win $100 over and over again

I've been watching lots of encore westerns because of this game. Yesterday was McLintock!

I think we're all dumbfounded into silence that that's your really easy way to make money

It's early in the game, I haven't raided the Fort yet, but money seems pointless as there isn't anything expensive worth getting. I have $3000 or so. Hopefully I won't be sitting on a wad of cash throughout the whole game.

i find it harder to be a homicidal maniac then in gta I think b/c of the engine.

one criticism: the open order of missions can sometimes backfire. Like when you keep getting the hogtie option but may have not done that mission. Same with Thieves Landing, which gets mentioned before it appears on your map.

ah yes to the hogtie thing, i have no idea how to do that and it keeps coming up

its pretty fun, although sometimes it goes unappreciated. like i hogtied a criminal running from the law and the lawman just walked up and capped him.

yes!! i got the random encounter when two criminals run off from the lawman, i roped them both, brought them back, the guy says thanks, i get my $17 or whatever and he blows both their brains out and strolls off

^same thing happened to me

that's the last time i do that guy a favor, jeez!

there's a definite edge toward disregard of life, even moreso than in GTA i think. You're encouraged to shoot any goddamn thing that moves and bonus points if you gut it or loot it.

If you hogtie the guy that robs the general store from time to time, the weirdo anti-semite shopkeeper stands there theatrically kicking him in the head.

Also, there's a mission where a woman wants to leave town and you can either let her go or tie her up at the train station and bring her back to her husband. I tied her up, got the info from her husband then ran off with her and set her free at the train station, but she just ran away screaming and it didn't trigger any plot stuff.

Multiplayer free roam seems really good if you don't just get surrounded by mongs who repeatedly shoot you even though it's supposed to be co-op focused.

What the hell is this matchmaking system that thinks an ideal first match for me would be a shootout where I'm alone in a one man team against a 3 man team of experienced twats?

i keep failing at this dumb horse race for west dickens. and like, it's not because i'm doing badly at the race, my horse just isn't fast enough and doesn't have enough stamina compared to the other horses. Guess i'll have to ride about like a fud until i max out his loyalty or whatever, bah. Lame and boring.

buy a better horse! or buy apples.

ah. where do you buy such things? (feeling nooby)

the general store

i just bought a horse, then used the deed and i have no idea where it is.

I think you can whistle for it

real men wrangle horses

see i would wrangle horses but how do you tell if they're better than the one you have? i did whistle and a horse that looked a lot like the horse i already had came back and i can't tell if it's any faster. ha.

suppose i can try the race again and see if i win.

if it has a bigger willy it's better

A stats screen for the horse would be a nice addition, so you could see the loyalty, stamina, top speed, give it a name, etc

http://www.planetozkids.com/images/ozzoom/games/ponyluv/ponyluv_200.jpg

give it a name

it's a fuckin horse son, cowboy up!

SILVER

ha i was sort of hoping there'd be two currencies in the game, but, no pesos.

YES, I want to name my horse, YES I would like to name it Michael Lindington, and NO I don't care who knows it

http://i.testfreaks.co.uk/images/products/600x400/69/barbie-horse-adventures-wild-horse-rescue.444741.jpg

sorry, can't compete with "Pony Luv"

nobody can

Pony Lurve

the love that dare not speak its mane

I shot a few wild horses in the face last night, just to see what would happen. What happened is that they just died. It was kind of underwhelming.

lol am psychopath.

I wrangled one of the $750 horses, then wanted to exchange it for my old one once I realized what I did after stopping at the store. Now I cant figure out what the hell the damn thing looked like. Apparently its white-ish. pfft.

ok fuck the lassooing horses mission. how the fuck?

so i shot the fucking things instead.

i don't understand the balancing at all. urgh ruining my game.

yeah the horse ropin' mission drove me nuts. took me a long time to figure out what you have to hold down and what you have to let go.

the balancing thing: if you're leaning one way, push the other way a little bit

When you're tipping to the left, push right. When you're tipping to the right, push left.

(i still don't know if i have roping figure out fully, i just hold down triggers until i'm done, i think?)

(balancing) that's what i've been doing, but still falling off. gah!

Yeah, you keep holding down the trigger after lassoing something. Hold it down when you jump off your horse and walk to it

Regarding boars (upthread): use bait at that Boar spot

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If you miss a stranger (?) will it show up later again in the game? I'm trying not to miss any site specific encpounters (not only stranger visits). I know many encounters are random and repeatable but when I was looking at the stats screen there is two tallies: random encounters and not so random encounters (it goes by different names but I'm not able to check right now). I don't want to miss anything and hopefully the game doesn't let you miss the not-so-completely-random encounters.

Liar's Dice (aka Perudo) is a pretty cool game irl. Have any of you ever played it? The variation that I play irl is much better than the RDR version. In the better version 1's are wild and you don't do the "that amount is exact" rule... it's more complicated learning how to bet because when you bet 1's you have to halve the last amount etc..

//I'm posting from my Blackberry because I'm traveling out of town and I won't be back to play RDR until Monday. Happy trails to yall//

yeah i used the bait and it only works the first time. after that, it's just cougars and wolves. guess i have to come back in a few days?

No it worked twice or three times in a row for me. I just made sure I was standing right in the middle of the picture of the pig on my map. Also I think it was daytime if that makes a difference (?). Thanks for pointing out where to go btw

yeah, i might've been up the hill a bit.

more like over the hill LOL

no

lassoing and riding horses felt really natural to me; I've managed all that the first time I tried it.
Tap the run button once you lasso the horse to pull it toward you and run to it then leap on the back. And don't forget dead eye! I completely forgot about it for hours and once I reembraced it the whole game was in VATS.

erm so i just realised that balancing, its left and right AS YOU SEE IT and not actual left and right from the character.

but i just did it but it said i failed because i left the herd

about to burst

ffs i did it. but then wandered off, met some bad guys. went to shoot. STILL HAD LASSO SELECTED AS WEAPON FFFFFFSS

Oh man, i've gotten nailed so many times.

lol i just did the burning barn mission. got to the end (i think) but ran my horse over a townsfolk and failed.

Finally got my 360 back and loving the game so far. Unfortunately, there's this dude in Armadillo who keeps challenging me to a duel and then crashing my 360. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the game, which leads me to believe he's actually an incredibly effective dueler.

mine froze last night when patrolling the farm with the dog. those coyotes... so powerful.

funny easter egg (?): the gold you find for the treasure hunter tasks has fakey-civil war sounding names (generals it says), but most of the names are scrambled with names of famous abolitionists

anyone know where i can find some fukkin boars

lol n/m. found some!

I had the same problem mentioned to just upthread, looking for boars, using bait, standing right on the little boar icon on the map, but only wolves show up. Still haven't seen a boar, but I'll keep trying!

getting tired of these damn cougars

do i need to save every 10 minutes or waht

i had good luck with boars just a little bit down the hill from the map icon.

Okay, this is something VERY simple that I'm sure all of you already noticed, but I just now found out about it so I'll share it in case there's another ignorant cowboy like me:

To speed up the skinning process simply walk your horse over the corpse to be skinned. This will block the animation and instantly give you the results of the animal harvesting. When faced with multiple targets, and the player wishes to make a quick getaway, this can literally be a life saver.

I've been getting up and down off the horse everytime, listening to John Marston say "ooooh...this is DIRTY"

how do i dig for treasure?

getting tired of these damn cougars

spend less time in bars, more playing the game

This Saturday night, May 29th at 12 AM Eastern and 9 PM Pacific, FOX will be exclusively airing an original short film made from Red Dead Redemption.

The 30 minute short film, created and directed by John Hillcoat (the director of The Proposition and The Road), chronicles a slice-in-time of protagonist John Marston as he tracks down his former fellow outlaw and friend, Bill Williamson. Along the way, Marston encounters many of Red Dead Redemption's eclectic cast of dreamers, misfits and liars.

Using the world of Red Dead Redemption as a virtual film studio and created entirely with in-game assets and technology, Hillcoat re-imagines Marston’s pursuit of justice and salvation.

this bandito outfit is super shitty.

had a bug yesterday: playing poker in armadillo, the other players turned all blocky and pixely for a few rounds. their hands looked like digitized lobster claws. eventually they changed back.

lobster claw > full house iirc

yeah that's a hell of a tell

haha

http://kotaku.com/5542271/red-dead-redemptions-truly-truly-dastardly-achievement

(spoilers sorta)

i was going to do just that very thing the other day, but then my horse got killed by a cougar.

I tried a version of that where I hogtied a guy hunting deer and poured some bait on his head. The animals didn't eat him :(

ppk

had a bug yesterday: playing poker in armadillo, the other players turned all blocky and pixely for a few rounds. their hands looked like digitized robster craws. eventually they changed back.
--congratulations (n/a)

what the fuck are robster craws

how do i dig for treasure?

― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:39 AM (11 hours ago)

when you get to the right spot you'll get a prompt ("investigate?" maybe). if you haven't gotten that, you aren't in the right spot yet.

lol at "ppk"

thanks iphone

ah, there's the issue. I thought I needed to buy a shovel or something.

My main issue with this game is: riding along minding my own business, "help save my baby" from the side of the road, i pull off my horse and before I know what's up someone is shooting at me, I return fire, kill some old lady and now the game is shaking its head at me with a what were you thinking attitude. then, cougar attack.

Not even sure if that's an issue, but it's constant. Just finished my first few lines of plot and a few missions (american appetites just got stupid by the end); on my way to figure out how to do the trojan horse thing.

I just met my first cougar :O

The meeting did not go well

dudes you gotta go into dead eye on the tougher animals

dead eye doesn't help when they drag you down from behind and then you dont get a chance to get up

Im at the hunting mission where I need to kill two cougars with my bare hands and I cant seem to find any who want to kill me =\

my insatiable desire to lasso peeps and drag them down the railroad tracks at high horse speed is making me question my moral underpinnings.

it's ok so long as they're not black

hmm how much of this is bullshit i wonder

From: proletariat | Posted: 5/22/2010 3:00:00 AM |
shots that always end in a one shot draw are;
gun
head
heart(slightly higher than the middle, always on the upper right of their chest (so your left)
hat(sometimes)
ear
genitals
gun hand elbow

two shot showstoppers:
hat than gun
hat than hat again
both knees
both hands above the wrist line

I hate to ruin anyones suprise, but you can make em "dance boy"

empty a clip of perfect reticules round their feet they will freak out and drop their gun

crazy how no matter how many times i get caught cheating at poker, people are still willing to play against me after the duel.

did i somehow miss how to cheat at poker?

gotta dress nice

ohhhhhh interesting

i have never not gotten caught when i cheat at poker

so i stopped playing poker.

Should be on this from about 8/9pm GMT/BST if anyone wants to posse up (am on 360). Gamertag Jimdoo if you don't already have me.

yeah cheating at poker for me is a surefire way to lose 50 bucks no matter what. The one time I was successful at it I managed to sneak a 7 of clubs into my hand. Good job.

how is the multiplayer anyhow? ive still not renewed my live gold, and i think i should for this and gta4

It has a few cool aspects but ultimately people who play GTA deathmatch are the lowest scum in the multiplayer universe.

can't even imagine. GTA is terrible as a pure shooter, who could even enjoy that

So the horse you get at the end of Bonnie's quest chain, is that a "fast" horse or a normal horse? (Should I be looking for an upgrade?)

Not to toot my own horn, but that mix I made is awesome to play with this game.

I was wondering the same thing, Mordy. Reeeeally wish there was a way to look up information for your horse.

lol. the movies shown at the movie house in Armadillo are hilarious

i wonder how true they are to the era

the one about the snake oil salesmean is really funny, not seen the others.

People in the Wild West were really mediocre poker players.

That guy who wanted the flowers for his wife is weird as hell.

went back to the boar spot today and was attacked by ten or eleven of them. really weird. then two cougars immediately ran up to help me get the next hunting level.

They probably smelled the boar blood.

Ended up doing about 5 hours of free roam with 3 friends last night and it was AMAZING. It's true that public games are full of nobbers, but co-opping on gang hideouts with a party is so much fun.

I'm now hugely looking forward to this - http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/05/red-dead-redemption-getting-free-co-op-dlc-this-june/

Yeah, splitting up and ambushing gang guys in hideouts with a few random other players can be pretty cinematic. I need to keep doing it because every time I play multiplayer I get slaughtered by guys who've leveled up enough to start with good guns.

In multiplayer, you can get auto-targeting on NPCs but not other players, right? I've read people complaining about how pointless auto-target is in MP but whenever I've had to try and defend myself from knobs in free roam I've had to try and manually aim the cursor at them.

Dunno, played a few shootouts and I'm pretty sure auto-targeting stayed on all the time. Didn't try any public free roam though, so maybe that's different?

That's the thing, I definitely feel like I'm getting auto-shot but when I try to return fire it's just trying to line a cursor up with a guy who's running round in circles with the left trigger held down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD2ywdtvK-8

really wish you could drop weapons.

Why?

you end up carrying a lot of crap that you don't shoot anymore

it's not like there's encumbrance tho...

Ok for the first time on xbox maybe ever, all the dudes in my multiplayer session were not assholes!

So the early levels must be easy to ramp up huh? 30 minutes to level 7.

I will miss my stupid mule not at all, btw.

lol @ that video

Okay, the postie has just delivered this game to me finally. I'm going in.

Ok for the first time on xbox maybe ever, all the dudes in my multiplayer session were not assholes!

Never had a free roam that wasn't at least 1/3 asshole, but had a good one last night where a bunch of guys took over the Mexican fort with the wall mounted cannons, and just holed up there for about an hour destroying everything that came near it.

Capture the bag is quite funny, with the narrator's constant "You've got the bag! You dropped the bag. You have control of the bag! You dropped the bag." Don't play these sort of games much in MP usually so not sure if hiding behind a rock near the enemy drop off point and shooting guys in the head when they get within six feet of it makes me an asshole or not.

EEK

i bought a PS3

and i have logged approx 5,000,000,000,000 hours with this game

has anybody tried to get drunk yet? i was going to do that last night but i got involved in some shit

oh shi-! nice

did you pick anything else up?

i downloaded Flower - amazing!!

and Wipeout HD is sitting there like an unopened Christmas present.

i'll most likely pick up Heavy Rain.

after which i may actually very well sell it back to the shop. my interest in games is very narrow and i'm not really aware of others that i'm interested in.

i'm surprised by how stiff and weird "realistic" videogame human beings still are in 2010. i think i'd prefer all games to just abandon any pretense at photorealism and stick with cartoony versions for now. i mean if even Pixar insists on cartoony humans i'm not sure how the PS3 is supposed to able to do any better in realtime..

but back to Red Dead..

I think RDR and Uncharted 2 both had decently realistic humans but the eyes always look wrong, way too shiny and bright like they have lightbulbs inside their skulls

Have to drag myself away from this game for a bit. Spent most of the first couple of hours on the game huntin & shootin, which I guess is the norm. Surprised when a boar charged my horse! Bagged three of those, and four cougars. There're a lot of cougars out there. They're not that difficult to kill, but they always get my horse.
Do I just sell all my meat/hides etc, or will I actually need any of it?

Just arrived in Armadillo...

I sold all my meat and hides but have superstitiously held on to my herbs. Mmm herbs.

has anyone completed the flowers for my lady side-quest?

yup :D

did you bump her?

no!

a minutes googling reveals it would have been funny :(

spoilers

her head falls off o_O

I didn't even know you could walk around in there! I thought it was a cut scene.

Is everyone you meet in the game crazy?

i did the mission w/ the dead fiancee/crazy lady combo. I can't lasso people tho. It's hard.

Protip: You can deadeye with the lasso

no so pro :P

lol +t

does the honor meter shut off at some point? i killed many innocents last night including a blackjack dealer who had 21 3 outta 4 hands but i never saw the honor meter pop up.

just read one of the newspapers, has anyone seen anything 'spooky' at Tumbleweed? i did.

I am officially a knight of the west and have maxed out my honor bar. Heading back to deal with Irish as that's the last of my outstanding letters on the map. High points lately: dealing with the horse fucker, cleaning out all the gang hideouts, having a man steal my horse/whistling for horse/dude getting bucked off/me roping and hogtieing him and leaving him in the road

Have you done any Irish missions before?

Yep; just finished the snake oil salesman and the grave robber and I think I just have to do two with Irish and I'll be ready for an assault on the mission.

Just played four hours of multiplayer with some pals. I need to sleep.

spending waaaaaay too much time on this generally wandering and hunting rather than doing owt - played 3 or 4 hours last night - did 3 missions.

Don't think I've hit 20 hours so quickly on a game for ages.

hunting does have the oregon trail appeal, dunnit.

I know I can deadeye w/ the lasso but how do I hogtie. I think my timing is screwy. I am also trying to do it from horseback;

1) lasso a person

2) Hold L2; press triangle?

do I automatically dismount from horse if trying to lasso from horse?

no. You can lasso from horse or on foot. You have to run up and touch the lasso'd person while they're still on the ground and hit the hogtie button (Y on xbox, not sure on PS3)
I just went south of the border and the amazing and very clearly directorially planned moment with the jose gonzalez music was awesome. Then i got eaten by wolves.
this is a lot less like GTA and a lot more like fallout 3 i do believe.

so you throw lasso, hold the button you throw with, then direct the horse/walk to the person and "tap" triangle or "press n hold" triangle?

L2 is the button you don't want to let go of, not the throw button (R2).

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

xbox vs ps3 confusion for me

left trigger vs. right trigger.

okay i'm back on Xbox gold, so had a very quick look at free roam in multiplay tonight.

is the ilx posse up and running?

Dunno, I'm MichaelAnnoyman if you want to add me

cozen seems to be playing last decade's popular "Bayonetta", the square

anyone on PS3 want to commit muuuuuuurrrrdddeeeeerrrrr

okay, added you.

i'm antzattax

xp

Anyone on 360 is welcome to add me. I'm an easy kill in multiplayer. id= polyphonique

forksclovetofu, holla when my posses on broadway
maybe i just played too much today but it's feeling a tetch grindy now.

I don't think I get the point w/ this movie showing right now -- it looks like he took the cutscenes and rearranged them to flow more like a film narrative? What's the point? They needed a real director to do this?

i randomly join multiplayer a couple days ago and it put me in a game with forks.

wow @ the music when you cross into mexico for the first time. very cinematic.

Are any of you watching this thing on Fox?

not on yet here

yeah this is pretty stupid, guess its meant to be an ad?

But a kinda legit director (the guy who directed The Road) directed it. They needed a professional director to make this?

more pathetic medium inferiority syndrome

oh yay first full on game-breaking glitch. lassoed a dude when up close and then hogtied him, which amusingly left him vertical. pressed button to pick him up, now i have an invisible dude over my shoulder, a standing dude that i cant do anything with, and i cant put invisible dude down, or put him on my horse, or ride my horse, or do anything...

so much for that whole bunch of mission progress since my last save point. rrrrggg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4652146992_3b1c2a713f.jpg

ME AND YOU AGAINST THE WORLD, BUDDY

What a rip. I was doing the hunting mission where you have to kill 5 wolves with your knife. So, I killed and skinned 4 wolves, and was chasing after(!) a fifth when a cougar pounced and killed me. Okay fine. But when I woke and was heading off back to Rio Bravo to get the remaining wolf, I checked my satchel - no wolf pelts. It didn't save. Had to start from scratch.

Anyone found the religious lady from the train ride lying dying by some rocks out in the wilderness? Some weird goins on in this game.

Yeah, she was an odd quest, basically came down to "give her some medicine", and I already had some in my pocket, so the whole thing was over in seconds.

These random deaths plus infrequent autosaves could really be enough to ruin this game. Only been a problem for me a couple of times so far, but seems to be happening to everyone at some point, and yeah, they're only going to get more annoying.

Someone told me more gang hideouts etc open up in free roam as you level up...but looking at faqs I'm not sure that's the case? Anyone confirm or deny? Or is it really just a matter of grinding those same 6 or 7 locations over and over?

I think you can kill wolves w/your gun and skin them for the pelts and it still registers. iirc when I checked my stats on tht one I had 2 wolves killed by knife but 4 pelts collected

if I had to gripe about anything in this game it would most certainly be the cut scenes, they are waaaaay too long. i've started skipping them completely now.

otherwise, i'm still enjoying it. I think i'm on the final mission for the first part. But before I do it I want to finish off all the other stuff. I particularly want to start opening up the outfits, because it sounds like some of them could be useful (the extra dead eye for starters)

and i've still not played anything of the poker, finger, dice games. I tried the horeshoe one, i was crap at it.

horseshoes was the most frustrating thing about the game so far. the instructions are lacking, i had to look up how to really do it on the web >:(

don't think I have skipped one cut-scene though.

it's not like me really, i think last night i just lost all patience

bnw, I don't remember playing with you! And i've only played online once! What happened?

horseshoes and dueling and 5 finger and blackjack are a pain in the ass.
i busted my first table at poker last night.
I like liar's dice; genuinely fun game.

One quick question - there are some achievements for "making a profit" at blackjack/poker. Does this mean you have to eliminate all other players in a game? Or is there a way to leave before the game is completely over, with more chips than you started with? I've only played poker about 5 times so far, but each time I leave before the game is over because it's been like 30 minutes in real life, the game isn't close to over, and I want to go shoot some birds or something.

5 finger at Armadillo is easy $100 over and over because it's the same button combination everytime. It's easier looking at the controller than the screen

Poker is alright the first few times at least. I would like there to be an quest in the game that involves playing against some big whigs on a riverboat or something

Horshoes is hard but I got to the point where I can win $8 bets at least half the time

Blackjack is whatever

Liar's Dice is fun but I've played so many variations of this game IRL that I would like to be able to play those variations in RDR. I've been out of town for the past 5 days and I ended up playing a new variation (for me) called Pirate's Dice. I like the Perudo rules best (original rules) but sometimes I vary the rule on the 'down to one dice' round for Perudo

I imagine you can play Poker and Horseshoes in multiplayer... that would be kind of fun

Question: I've picked up two newspapers at Armadillo. The second one was two issues later (55 and 57 or something). Did I miss an issue?

Z S, I finished that "make a profit in blackjack" thing by winning a $2 bet and quitting, and you can just quit over and over again until your cheap bet pays off without any negative effect.

I don't mind the cut scenes at all, but what appeals to me with this game, and these kind of games, is the story aspect. I'm not just waiting for the next bit where I have to shoot some guys again.

I've only played Horseshoes so far. First time for a $1 bet and I beat the guy quite easily, so I raised it to a $10 bet on the second game and he thrashed me. Like, no contest.

Is Tumbleweed actually haunted? I've wandered around there at the dead of night, and it's pretty spooky, especially the house on the hill - wind howling, owls hooting, eerie music - but I haven't seen anything.

Still can't find the buried treasure, and I've been all over that damned hill up past Hanging Rock.

yeah, the treasure is frustrating. I may have to youtube those.

I just played free roam for like four hours with a bunch of guys that didn't kill everyone for no reason

By the end I was just driving around in stagecoaches holding lit dynamite and crashing into people

the 3rd treasure map, with just a picture of the house is pretty ??? is that tumbleweed?

the first arm-wrestling match I had pop up was ended by a rattlesnake before I could join.

forks - you were far away from the main scrum. i kept getting killed and i think you left before i could find you. i am 'tehdead' btw.

HA i'm on the sixth treasure map, it's been my favourite part. it reminds me of the stealing cars for steve mission in gta4, where all you were given was a photo of a car in a 'location' unknown.

i am rubbish at all those poker, dice etc games.

i am now in mexico and it looks rather fab.

i saw a hanging woman in tumbleweed, and when i went back she wasn't there. dunno if it was meant to be a ghost or what. also for a derelict place, it had a few too many lights on. again, not sure if that was a ghostly thing or a coding error. pretty spooky tho, but a lot of the places in this game are at night anyway

i think you can buy back issues of newspapers, i came across somewhere that was offering that to me somewhere. (might have misread tho)

i really love the plants and trees in this game, so so real the way they've been arranged. Sometimes i wish that i could just grab a dirt bike tho and vroom around.

Can def buy back issues. Try the train station in Armadillo.

and just another critism, the main missions are a bit too easy. i can't recall many missions that i've had to try twice.

*spoiler warning*
even on that last first half mission, after the machine gun part, finishing off the guys in the fort. i went to press the cover button but accidentally jumped right into the thick of dozens of bad guys and still somehow managed to survive.

maybe i'm just a wicked gunslinger.

SPOILER

Only mission I've had any trouble with so far is when you assault that house to rescue the hostages inside. I never died, but I kept having trouble killing the guy holding a gun to the hostage's head before he could pull the trigger. Took me 2 or 3 times to get it.

additional spoiler to mordy above

i remember that one i think. and i i blazed in without any care for the hostages lol, i even shot the girl in the last room and she survived. unless you're talking about another hostage mission later on.

AGAIN spoiler

fucking love that mission on the raft, and the music when mexico opens. haha wow.

I'm glad it's a bit easier than previous GTAs; I've never finished a GTA because I've been bogged down by the difficulty. I def think there's a strong possibility I'll finish RDR

Yeah, same here

I was thinking that I've never failed on a mission, but it's just that restarting is so painless you don't really notice when you've failed a mission. Dead Eye is a bit of a win button, though. Also not sure I'll ever have the co-ordination to shoot people in expert mode.

I've just done the save Bonnie from being hanged mission and, duels aside, it was the first and only time I've used Dead Eye at all. I just never remember I have it, or I just haven't needed it 'till now. Your gun locks onto people (+ animals) easy enough anyway, even at full pace on horseback, I don't see there's much need of it. Yet anyway.

no i agree, the instant lock on is good enough most of the time. times that i use it are for v.long range shots that seem to hit more with the dead eye method, and also for cougar attacks.

oh and of course when shooting stuff that it won't lock onto, like hanging ropes

I find the instant lock isn't really good enough when you need to take out a huge group of people before being killed, or trying to hit really small game (like armadillos) as they run away.

You tend to need it on the Free Roam gang hideouts, because you're outnumbered by a bunch of pissed off guys who are much better at hitting you in the head than the single player grunts.

and peoples hats

the problem i have with people's hats is that it tends to paint the guy's face before i can move it to the hat. i can't wait for it to shift to manual paint, cause i've killed so many people while just trying to shoot their hats off.

i can't wait for it to shift to manual paint

?

i've yet to come across a sniper rifle, which i'm gagging for too.

I think in Mexico, the auto aim starts to slacken a tetch.
I would also kill a man for a snipe rifle.

slight spoiler

i killed the water diviner, because when i finished the mission (and he complained that i'd gotten blood on the deed) he was using binoculars. so i thought that if i killed him i'd get the binocs. it didn't happen but at least i got the deed back, not sure i can use it for anything tho.

I too have not noticed the fame or honour meter popping up anymore either.

lol. I was doing a live bounty and the goons chasing me killed him while I was transporting him. Epic save-your-friend failz.

And there are three dead-eye stages. The first is you hit dead-eye and then you can target while the game has slowed down. The second stage you just roll the cursor over targets and it paints on little target things. Then you hit trigger and you can shoot like 6 people at once. The third stage (which I'm not at yet), you actually hit a button to paint on targets, it doesn't auto-paint. So you have a lot more control over your targets.

lolxp

ah i wondered why the painting only appeared halfway through my game. thanks, that explains it. yeah that last stage sounds crucially useful.

has anyone done many of those close up kills? they are fucking brutal graphically, oh man.

is there any snow in this game? i thought i saw some on the trailer, but i can't find anywhere on the map

So is there an achievement for buying every rentable house? Cause I've got the money for it, but I can't really see any use for having a house/apartment in every town.

Btw: I have high hopes for Fallout New Vegas, but this is (so far at least) my favorite game of the year by far, and maybe my second favorite game of the contemporary era (this gen consoles) after Fallout 3.

the mexican map looks gorgeous, there's some amazing towns - it all reminds me of being on holidays.

haha i'm helping some dude to build a plane. Loved the cut scene dialogue "..I'll get you that stuff for yer, because I just HAVE to see you jump off that cliff"

i played this today sat real close to the screen in my beanbag, to admire the beautiful graphics. just love riding along in the storms.

is there any snow in this game? i thought i saw some on the trailer, but i can't find anywhere on the map

there is some to the northwest of where the boars are, north of the macfarlane ranch, but there is nothing of note in the area

just some snow

the third unlocked territory after mexico has mountains and snow.

Ugh. Had three boar tusks for the challenge (and a bunch of other animals, like half an hour of hunting + skinning) and a cougar came out of nowhere, hit me, I rolled down a hill and couldn't stand up to deadeye before he finished the job. Meh!

cougars are totally the blue shells of this game

rrr it's telling me i've only been to 44/45 new austin areas, but they're all showing on the map.

the game must get confused between locations you've been to and those you've unlocked with maps -- just bought a map for an area i'd been and it gave me the unlock.

Ah, so wearing the bandana stops any fame and honour amendments. shit a brick i've been playing most of the game with mine on!

my horse just collapsed under me, i have no idea why.

and i now have my third level of dead eye

my horse just collapsed under me, i have no idea why.

rattlesnakes!

Ah, so wearing the bandana stops any fame and honour amendments

ohhhhh

i actually quite dig the cougar thing, it's pretty hairy just getting off your horse in the arse end of nowhere having to keep your wits about you.

gives the game an edge

riding your horse over tiled floors makes a sweet clip clop sound

oh man, has anyone else seen some of the graffiti? there are phrases written on walls here and there -- apparently those are the cheats