Battlefield: Bad Company

yeah, I don't know what to make of this one; I downloaded the demo, played the SP for 10 minutes and turned it straight off. your little dude seems to glide across the screen... but battlefield is all about the MP innit, bolo... and some of the touches sound nice + I'm a little sick of cod4, so maybe

: /

I've heard the multiplayer is really good but yet to verify this. Czn is right SP was rank rotten, I don't think I even lasted ten minutes.

I might give this a go (didn't know the demo was out, I'll have to grab it), but I think I'm more interested in Battlefield Heroes.

The SP wasn't bad, really... just kinda "meh," gameplay-wise. Although I have to admit I really dug the "attitude" the game had, the music was fucking ace, etc.

So I picked this up last night (360 version) and have put in a few hours split between single and multiplayer & so far it feels really solid - I'm enjoying it. The game has a weight... the guns are just really powerful as are the explosions / destructibility. It moves a little slower than Call of Duty 4, but is similar. I kind of like the non-repetitive way they set up the single player - kind of like Bioshock, when you die you don't lose your progress - so it's much easier to keep moving forward.

I really like the graphics and enviornments, which at least feel really large.

Multiplayer is fun, but it seems like the defending team is winning every game. Also for a multiplayer heavy game - that right now there is only one mode for multiplayer seems a little weird. Apparently they're going to patch in a second mode at some point?. Nonetheless, I see myself playing a lot of this, even if I doubt I will rack up Call of Duty like hours upon hours. Also games have been completely lag free so far.

this game is... pretty good

quite late to the party but now it's cheap this game is worth a punt

as an fps noob, I really enjoyed it. Some of the tank sections seemed a bit.......pile through and hope for the best, but the ones where you can have a sniper rifle and pick off sentries from far away, I like a lot.

I'm surprised no one hear noted the awesome Kristofferson reference.

battlefield: 1943 is out soon. xbla, multiplayer only, three maps, three classes, 1200 points

any interest in that?

mibbes aye.

in regards to Battlefield 1943... I do feel like it might be nice to have a solid multiplayer fps stuck on the hard-drive, but I also feel like, I'm not sure I need another multiplayer fps right now, plus I've never been completely sold on Battlefield. There were things I liked about Bad Company, but not enough to stop me from trading it in when I needed some cash. $15 also feels kind of expensive for 3 maps. Just too many other games right now anyhow (and I'm still happy playing the constantly updated TF2 and would like to play more L4D).

Also Battlefield Heroes is free and basically the same gameplay (and I almost never play it).

1943 is out tomorrow

worst launch ever

game is beyond fucked

How so? Battlefield fans I know have been trying to talk me into playing this with them.

they totally underestimated the demand (plus u can access the game for 30mins via the trial) and all the servers crashed, no one cd get into a stable game (I tried and tried and when I got in one it was laggy as all hell)

forums predictably up in arms

maybe best to wait a couple of days w/this one

I did manage to sneak a few games before it went wayward and the game plays fine and is heaps of fun, def worth a try if u like fps/battlefield and have friends playing it but yeah subject to EA fixing the current server-side problems

are u gonna get it jimd?

I guess so, but yeah, probably not until next week.

Bad Company 2 is looking really good. Hyped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7RgIs_Iw0k

woah - ps3 multiplayer BETA keys here (just got mine)...
http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/battlefield-bad-company-2/

Somehow I forgot how different Battlefield is from Call of Duty. Game feels great. I love the variety of vehicles and weapons and giant open gameplay. There's much more of a team feel now too - not as complicated as Team Fortress, but the different classes really make a difference. I only played one long attacking match so far (which we won), but I really appreciated the different, sometimes slower feel.

Graphics weren't as sharp as I thought they would be - seemed like a step back from the first Bad Company to the downloadable BF1943 style, but maybe that's just beta graphics - still over four months till the game comes out, maybe it's the ps3(?).

Definitely prefer the modern feel, rather than WWII. I wonder how many maps the final game will ship with...

... update?

I don't have much to add as I haven't played it much more. The graphics aren't as bad as my above post implies - they're definitely at least on the level of 1943, which is fine. Right now there are four classes (medic, assault, engineer and recon (sniper)) with a ranking system right of out Call of Duty, which lets you unlock weapons and gadgets as you rank up. Each class has three or four different guns and stuff they can get, it seems like.

I think it seems like a very solid multiplayer offering, but I have some problems... the first and most major of which would be an overcrowded marketplace - too many first person shooters to choose from - not enough time to play & get good at them all.

The gametype in the demo, capture / defend two point in an area then move on to the next area of the map... leads to some very long matches... too long, especially when things are going bad. The long matches make me feel like I should be playing the game on a PC. The other problem with match length, is that it feels too samey, moving to a new area to do try do do the same thing you just did, capture or defend two points five time in a row offers little variety of experience across a match that takes so long. I know the final game is going to ship with other modes too, so maybe that's only a real problem with the demo, but I'm not too fond of this mode (which is basically a re-tooling of the gold capture from the first Bad Company). Killzone 2, for example, has matches of similar lengths on some large maps, but it gives you five different modes to play across the course of the match - that variety frees things up and makes the game more fun & less repetitive.

Finally, the included demo map is too sniper friendly. I mean, I'm a horrible sniper in every game I've ever tried it, and here I got 30+ kills (or something) in my first try. The size of the maps, the lack of ability to flank and the paths people have to take to get to an objective make sniper a god class (or at least so it seems to me). Wait ten seconds to spawn, run for one minute to get to the action, get shot by a sniper a half mile away & repeat...

sorry meant to come back on this - thx for the impressions. I'm definitely stoked to play this after sinking some time into the original. esp. excited to have an antidote to the ping pongy individualism of MW2's mp, which I do love of course but it can be quite a lonely game ;_;

I think the key will be how many maps they include with the retail release. I felt like the first game got old quick because there were just a handful of very similar feeling maps (and only one game type).

yeah, I've not been following the development but I'd def be interested to hear how many maps and gametypes will ship w/this one

I hope they def have more than two gametypes this time; not that I don't really like gold rush mode

I guess my other question mark about the game, is that at least with the demo it kind of felt like just more of the same. I was in the M.A.G. beta at the same time and while that felt similar to Battlefield (big team battle across a big map), it felt different enough (for instance, three factions instead of just two & multiple objective types), that at least from the beta impressions, it seemed more compelling & had a slightly more unique & original kind of feeling. If I do end up getting M.A.G., I'm not sure I'd want to pick up a similar game but with a reduced feeling just a month or two later.

Early 2010 is fucking crowded!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9fTM-bC9Y

hm!

Oh fuck! The ATVs and air support (AC 130?). Looks great! I hope they do some smaller modes on smaller maps too

yeah, does look good

goole, u a fan of bf:bc1?

no, never played it!

this looks good, but i'd feel guilty buying a MW-alike (even tho it isn't)

I'll probably be all over this. Im a constant bottom feeder in MW2 but for some reason I can kick series ass in Battlefield.

the engine is just so great; I used to just walk around firing grenades at buildings because watching them crumble is just so satisfying

frostbite 2.0 or whatever it is in BF:BC2 looks to be even more incredible with fully destructible buildings

New squad deathmatch mode 4 vs 4 vs 4 vs 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3jXYAxjFgc

^ pretty much exactly what I was asking for two days ago.

that looks alright but srsly the whole squad system was the worst thing about BF:BC; it's cool to stick together in squads and the ability to spawn off your squad mates is useful but only being only to talk to your squad and not being able to enter games with more than 3 of your friends is seriously limiting

I agree that squad talk is dumb when the teams are so small (9 player max?). It might have made sense on PC with 32 player teams. That said, I never mike up anyway (and have yet to have more than a couple other friends on at the same time), so for me it doesn't make much difference.

"DICE is adding a hardcore mode to increase the realism. Here there will be no kill cam after deaths, no HUD to speak of, and the amount of damage you can take will be decreased dramatically."

I'm glad I've come back around to this game. It's a lot more fun than I remembered & I'm really enjoying the unique feel. Adding in the new Conquest mode helps a ton & the four new maps (all free) make it feel like a much more complete multiplayer experience than when it launched. People seem to still be playing it too... at least today I had no problem getting in a bunch of full games. I really like the graphics as well - the look is so solid. I'm loving how the different classes, foot travel, boats, tanks, jeeps, helicopters and even golf carts keep things feeling fresh. Definitely hoping to spend more time with this one (at least until 2 comes out). It's a really good bargain now too, at only $20 US new.

Sorry, I just looked over this thread and realized I've been essentially posting the same fucking paragraph for the last year and a half...

:D

The number one ranked player in this game (on 360) has 232,137 kills as of this evening! Beyond crazy. At least for me, kills are hard to come by in Bad Company. I just had a match where I felt like I did pretty good, like maybe I was getting the hang of things, but at the end my results read, ten kills to fourteen deaths (good enough for the third best score on my team as I captured some points too). Since I've come back to the game, I do feel like I'm doing better, having many more matches closer to even, but I've got a lot of ground to make up... overall I've died about twice as many times as I've killed... uhg.

It's weird that the leaderboards cut off at 500,000. I've still gotta get about 400 kills just to get on that thing :(

Cozwn - did you have a favorite class to play?

iirc my favourites switched often betw.
- the assault w/the M16 - the grenade launcher was really satisfying on that and it was great to be able to self-heal;
- support w/the lmg that has a red dot site - again it's good to be able to heal and assist others w/health and also heal vehicles; mortar strike is too good
- sniper w/the silenced automatic rifle;
- and the demolition class with the PP2000 shotgun - great to be able to C4 the crate unnoticed and the PP2000 is lethal but it's a bummer not being able to self-heal so you have to be pretty good to play this class

tbh all of the classes are fun in different ways and each has something to recommend them

one of the things that did bother me about this game: so much hell from above; it's like a prototype for MW2 inasmuchas there are always explosions going off and massives pitched battles between tanks and infantry and helicopters blowing shit up, it can be overwhelming, especially because the sound-design is so good and really accentuates the mayhem

Yeah, I've been lucky enough to be gunner in a few choppers with good pilots and that's some crazy fun, but unfair as hell for dudes running along the ground if you spot 'em. It's a lot harder to use those things though than say the chopper gunner in MW2, since there's a lot more to deal with. Is there a class that carries a good anti air-weapon? I did shoot my first chopper down tonight using one of those ground anti-air emplacement guns (I don't know what they're called). The game feels really deep - I still have A LOT to learn. I've just unlocked the recon's marking thing which you can blow up tanks and shit with, I guess - I'm looking forward to trying that out later. The unlock system does bug me a bit - some of the weapons you start with, while maybe as powerful as stuff you get later, seem a lot harder to use. I'm just really in love with that large battlefield feeling, it just feels so much more open and free and filled with a lot more possibilies than what I was getting from my CoD MW2 marathons. It does feel even worse though when you end up on a crappy team that can't seem to get anything done.

I guess the new game is going to have a kill cam? I don't remember it from the beta, but I think that will help get rid of the helpless feeling you have sometimes after dying and not even having a clue what the hell just happened.

The dog tag system is really funny (just discovered it tonight).

Calling in a missle on tanks is hard! First it's hard to get a lock, cause those guys keep moving, then I haven't quite figured out how to control the missle and it's already crashing harmlessly into the ground.

yeah that's one of the main problems with helicopters - there is no class with a reliable anti-aircraft weapon - you can use supports' LMGs on them but it's not that effective; best bet is to use the AA guns but any smart helicopter pilot or artillery-user takes them out first and there's not many on each map

the trick to calling in missiles on tanks is...... lock onto empty vehicles! or your own AA guns! or missile emplacements. you can then direct your missile into the tank and they get no warning that it's coming. iirc you control the missile w/inverted controls and use the right trigger for it to accelerate

change log from beta
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.00.50.72/BFBC2BetaChangeLog.txt

Disgusting...

North American residents who purchase either the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 editions of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 will have to jump through some hoops to play the Squad Rush multiplayer mode within the first thirty days of the game's release.

Developer DICE confirmed today that, for those thirty days following March 2, the only console players in North America that will be able to select the four-versus-four Squad Rush mode will be those that pre-order the shooter from retailer GameStop.

http://twitter.com/OfficialBFBC2/status/8317834065

anyone dl this yet?

jim u grabbing it?

dl'ed it last night, managed a game and a half before A woke up and stayed up. Seems a lot more.....madcap, got plenty kills though, will probably go and have a dabble in a minute in fact.

I like this game but damn is it a learning curve coming from MW2

That's the thing about these more complicated, team based multiplayer games (I've also been checking out the similar MAG this week)... they offer more depth, but you lose that quick pick up and jump in ease and excitement of CoD. The game opens up in a big way and offers a world more of possibilities, but not as much instant gratification, maybe? Or maybe I'm just shootered out...

Yeah, I just don't have room for this, still battling through Bayonetta and then want to try and get through Mass Effect 2 before FFXIII arrives.

nnnnngggggh this is too good

even with the spotting system (which I'm conflicted about, at least in BC1 there was a risk reward mechanic to spotting ie you had to fire your gun whereas here you can just mash back/select along the tree line and light fools up, though no one seems to do so), the slightly sluggish controls, the weird bullet hit marking and wonky geometry collision detection, this game is still disgustingly good

re: Squad Rush

Rest of The World: No Exclusive Access, as this mode would be unlocked day 1 at no extra cost and you can also invite any of your American buddies to play as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NCQek4fWV8

This game is pretty fun but Im not used to the lack of feedback when I shoot like in COD.

if you still need convincing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEFfX9NnwJ0&feature=player_embedded

ok this demo is badass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p4fkH9qC4M

Jeeeez how complex does that sound? Buncha my colleagues are gonna be playing it but I think I prefer the simple fun of L4D.

what kind of a n00b am i? christ.

the moving in this game makes me carsick

eh i dunno about this. the movement seems too loose somehow. and the sounds are not good, don't seem to have much bearing on what's going on around you.

yeah i know it's the same w B1943 but that was a little arcader so

I know with the first game I started enjoying it more once I started unlocking some of the different weapons and stuff - the default load outs don't feel the best & playing a little more of this demo tonight, I get the same idea here. But yeah, like the first one, playing this kinda gives me a vague feeling - I don't completely connect as much as I would like to. It would certainly be better with a real group, but for me that's not going to happen & I also think it would probably be better on PC than on console / just because of the way communication actually usually works in a team based game on PC (in my experience).

I'm a little shootered out & with so many other games coming out in the next couple of months to choose from, I think I've decided to pass on this one for now too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbHEAM3pN2o

I understood about 30% of that. Still lolled tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ0L2daA3Ac&feature=player_embedded

game can't come soon enough

EA can fuck my cock

Buy a specially (has EA LOGO , Capt. Sheppard, BFBC2 Tank, & Sims 3 Logo) marked Dr Pepper product (20/16/14 OZ BOTTLES or 7/11 Fountain Cup) to get a code, go to DRPEPPER.COM enter the code and get a piece of DLC.

In Battlefield: Bad Company 2 four kit upgrades allow you to become a unique Special Activities soldier, with new camouflage and a modified weapon. Kit upgrades also contain new awards and an additional achievement

man i'm sooo excited for this game now *makes jerky offy motion*

check the leaderboards... for the demo alone people have put in 160 hours

o_O

day 1 free dlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-XD8lJUv8g&feature=sub

is the modified weapon an explosive can of delicious dr pepper

fuck u yankees ;_;

bought this

fuck u scots

oy servers been crashed already.

guess I will play mlb le show.

did you play the demo cutty or just jump in sight unseen? how you finding the full game?

jumped in sight unseen. so disorienting coming from a similar multiplayer FPS. like you don't know where to look on the screen for weapons, stats, etc.

think i prefer MW2's style but i will continue to try this out. are you going to get it for ps3?

PS3 fps lol gimmie a break

PS3 is for RPGs and uncharted 2 didn't u get the memo

j/k probably not because most of the folx I played bf:bc1 with are on xbox, sorry dude ;_;

btw
http://images.totalgamingnetwork.com/potd/bc2tactic.jpg

ps3 joystick is better though! are you saying xbox is better for FPSs because of the community?

nah because of the pad

http://rachelmaude.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sloth-goonies.jpg
(a picture of the dualshock yesterday)

such a hater, cant wait till you actually use one

the ps3, not the pad obvs

Hate to get into a console war discussion, but the 360 pad is so far superior to to the ps3 dualshock when playing a fps it's not even funny. 1. There's too much dead-zone on the ps3 sticks and they just feel looser 2. The shooting on the 360 trigger feels much nicer compared to using the R1 button (at least with my hands, they naturally rest on the triggers, while using the dualshock, I gotta kinda hold my index finger in a less natural position to rest it on R1 - this problem could be mitigated I guess if one were to buy the trigger add ons for the dualshock). The only thing the ps3 controller has going for it is the d-pad, but it seems like hardly any games even use the d-pad anymore. Buttons are even.

i use the trigger add-ons. never liked the xbox controller, i find it too bulky.

jeff you play inverted look tho right? ;)

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

Goddamn would it kill anyone to highlight dudes with the select button? Im convinced people dont even know this command exists.

Its kinda weird not having the benefit of a map with uav blips 1/2 the time like in cod.

suspiciously curious about this but i kinda feel like playing some other kind of game tbh.

that is how i feel.

Jeff - totally agree. As much as i adore the ps controller for most things I have to admit the xbox controller seems much more suited for fps gaming.

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/bad-company-2-easter-egg/341063?playlist=featured

nnnnnnnnnnngggggh

this game. so good.

srsly

Have you tried out the new modes?

Initial response is rush is awesome, capture is fun but I feel like Ive played the Panama Canal map about 85% of the time.

Experiences vary depending on how good your team is.

I've played one game of conquest, which was fine. one game of hardcore conquest, which was just a horrible snipe fest. and 6 hours of rush (shut up I had no work today). when you get a good squad together this game just sings. the smoke grenade attachment can really change the flow of a game too

Some dudes loooooove to snipe. Ive noticed so far that the best players seem to be playing as medics. Guess they love the lmgs.

um pls don't look at my stats I was idling honest

any ps3 doods wanna play later

saiga too sick
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/c/c0/Saiga20ksemi.png

h8 these guys
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nBAw9Dm8d1s/SfoRUBlzs6I/AAAAAAAABAQ/z9OjTm6tdak/s400/sniper.JPG

zztop?

just a coupla cool dudes lookin for the objectives

http://img.skitch.com/20100306-8hhqt9bar86y9a6r79eafb5363.jpg
still got it

Theres nothing worse than joining a random squad and having a bunch of camping snipers being in your crew. Makes respawning on the squad pointless.

yup; everybody thinks they're a badass sniper. you're meant to be a recon, instead u are a douchebag

the servers on xbox are totally fucked

yep, spent 3/4 of an hour trying to get into a game last night - got nowt, did play some more single player though, is good.

I gave in and picked this up yesterday (360 version). And yeah - it's frustrating this isn't working yet. You'd think by now they would be able to launch a game - it's not like this is the first time. I did finally get to play about two hours yesterday then jumped into a game this morning to find the stuff I'd unlocked had all been reset & I was back to rank 1 - kind of annoying, but more annoying was after getting into a game again and playing for about ten minutes, the servers crash again & two and a half hours later they're still down. Not exactly the best first impression...

Also I'm TERRIBLE at this game so far & feel like the unlock system is stupid - really gives the people of higher ranks much too much of an advantage - kinda reminds me of Killzone 2 that.

the pace is too slow and i really don't love running from one end of the map to the other. enjoy the twitchy mw2 game mechanics more.

still trying to get into it...

the pace is too slow and i really don't love running from one end of the map to the other.

you need to squad up broseph. that way you can spawn off your squad mates, near the action.

i did squad up. but if everyone in your squad dies at once and all the vehicles have been destroyed. well u gotta run for a while broseph.

what's your favorite mode?

I've only been playing rush and conquest. trick to squadding up is letting the last guy know to post up if you three are dead so you have that mobile spawn point

played a quick game of squad rush and it seemed good too; a bit intense mind

got the gold stars on the saiga, the M16, and the grach

saiga with extended mags is ridic

sorry jeff I did the exact same as you and joined a friend's game in progress

hardcore is brutal and dumb in this game

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5971/sniperfest2.png

yeah cozen - I was spotting guys and wondering for a while, how come the little triangle wasn't showing up. I did fine the game I joined mid-session, but on that jungle map I just couldn't get anything going. When it came up as the next map again, I just had to drop. I was worried about joining up, but surprisingly, at least on my end, those matches seemed lag-free.

In regards to snipers, like I commented way back when I first tried the ps3 beta, with the way the maps are designed (so big and with so many different heights), snipers are gonna be kinda god class. It does get to be a problem in rush when you're attacking and two-thirds of your team is sitting back a half mile away in the hills.

Squad deathmatch can be kinda fun, just to get away from the draining objective modes and trying just to focus on being a squad and staying alive. I thought I wouldn't be able to play it for a month 'cause I didn't pre-order, or is that another squad mode? Anyhow, the game could use a couple more different modes. Would love to play some search and destroy in this engine.

Even though sometimes it's annoying that you have to spawn back at the base and run for 45 seconds to get back to the action - it's worth it for those great Battlefield moments at the start of the match as the whole team spawns in and races for tanks, 'copters and ATVs and races away.

I've only played one match on it, but I love the look of Nelson Bay (the night map)...

I think on the snowy map we were successfully holding all three positions and spawn-trapping the opposition so it was a bit easier; as you say, on the jungle map, it's very hard to get a bead on what's going on where in hardcore. I expect it'll reveal its magic once you've exhausted everything core has to offer. it's not like it takes too many bullets to down someone. I agree the netcode is pretty good, there's a slight edge when playing with americans but it's liveable

I don't think snipers are OP or anything, it's just obnoxious when you're playing against 10 snipers or playing with a team who are 10 snipers sitting way out in a bush miles from the objectives

got to agree with some of the grousing about the unlock system: it seems backwards to give bf VETERANS unlocked kit (health/defib, ammo packs) and weapons; surely those should be unlocked for non-vets and vets should have to unlock them. iunno, that doesn't make sense to me. the mid-level guns are better than the original guns too, for most classes, the last guns are not all-powering beasts tho I do have a soft spot for the M16

also level 16s have magnum ammo/body armour which is a big advantage in 1-vs-1s against new players

anyway I think the best recon build is SVU w/red-dot, mortar and magnum ammo. turns you into a mid-to-close range one man army, get a dece assault in your squad resupplying your motion sensors and you can have a field day.

god bless u anti tank mine and all the multi kills u provide in panama canal

Overall, I do like this game, but do feel moment to moment, it's not as compelling an experience as the CoD style game. I do like the variety of playing different classes that are really different, like a medic that can actually heal people or the supply guy tossing out supplies (and earning points for spotting things), but still, it's the rare game where there's any communication and that gives a weird disconnect, like you aren't really on a team. I wish they'd just give up on the squad chat idea and put in team speak as the odds of a more team flavor creeping into the game (and it really needs that teamwork to feel good) would be better. Too often I find the matches kind of drift into these sort of boring lulls. CoD style just has more constant action and more tension that makes it a more exciting game to put time into, I think - more fun...

so what's this like as a single player game, bearing in mind i hated CoD single player for it's 'on rails' feel.

pretty linear shooting gallery with a dece sense of humour, v.good visuals and the usual silly fps storyline

played a game last night with haitigotowned29 : /

what a fanny

http://bf1943.statsverse.com/sig/postcard/360/179257062.png

jesus homie

I'm a murderer

the stats website for BF:BC2 is down right now but my k/d is 1.31 in that iirc

might buy this tomorrow. or re-read ulysses.

finally unlocked the M14 EBR... you can't attach sights to it and its iron sights are woefully tight but it is great

game is 100 times better in a squad of 4, 100 times better again in a squad of four communicating and 100 times better again in a squad of 4 balanced to the game mode (e.g. for conquest a squad of two medics, a recon with a shotgun/M14, and an assault are an unstoppable force.)

I see wingsofredemption (pioneer of MW2's one man army noob tube and riot shield C4 trap kits) has binned MW2 for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wREA3ZqR4Fw

love this guy

I know no-one cares but woohoo new pb on kills
http://img.skitch.com/20100310-b5riujcpdc7rurf66prupic62b.jpg

love this game don't get how you can say this jeff: CoD style just has more constant action and more tension that makes it a more exciting game to put time into, I think - more fun...

this doesn't rhyme w/my experience of bf:bc at all really; if I die in CoD it's usually no biggie (unless I'm on a dece killstreak and then it is tense). with bf:bc every life is valuable I find

with bf:bc every life is valuable I find

oh yeah? what about those 40 people u killed maniac

love this game don't get how you can say this jeff: CoD style just has more constant action and more tension that makes it a more exciting game to put time into, I think - more fun...

this doesn't rhyme w/my experience of bf:bc at all really; if I die in CoD it's usually no biggie (unless I'm on a dece killstreak and then it is tense). with bf:bc every life is valuable I find

I guess I didn't mean tension in regards to living or dying, but for me it's more of a moment to moment kind of tension that stays constant in CoD, probably because at any second you can and will die, but in Battlefield the times where one feels safer are longer, maybe. That fastness of the CoD play style, even careful hardcore style is faster than most battlefield moments. Don't get me wrong, I like both styles and think Battlefield style also offers a lot - I just think overall I personally prefer CoD for its more arcade-like, fast, hyper-real experience. It's more what I'm looking for out of my playtime. Sort of like how some people prefer to gulp an espresso and others prefer to sip a glass of wine?

The other thing going on here is for whatever reason I just seem to be crap at Battlefield and okay at CoD games.

overall I personally prefer CoD for its more arcade-like, fast, hyper-real experience

i agree. still trying to get into this though.

gotta say, I think I like this a lot more than MW. But I am playing it on the PC so i'll be damned if I can actually ever play.

I haven't had much problem playing on PC, as far as connecting to good servers, but my internet connection has been unusually terrible over the last few days ... to the degree that I am starting to wonder if BFBC2 has something to do with the disconnections from the ISP.

I found a use for the UAV! dumping smoke on snipers in your team not playing to the objective :D:D:D:D

93 dog tags collected and counting btw

get a job

How do you collect them? (haven't read manual, or any bumf on it either) Just went 12-3 in a game of conquest, which doesn't sound much to you stone cold killers, but it took me a frikkin age to do that in MW2. I like the pace of this more - always feel rushed in mw2 and make terrible decisions, in this I can take a step back and think what I'm doing, like it a lot.

Really laggy last couple of days though on occasion though.

Also yeah, ffs Coz, 36 hours already????? I feel lucky to have got 4 or so. Aidan just woke up and watched me play, oops. "man banging daddy OOh planes, fire"

You get dog tags from knifing fools to death.

ah, I am severely shit at close-in work.

I have a job :P

Got a couple 'be the best player in the round' pins last night.

This is why I enjoy bf way more than cod. haha

I bough the PC version a few days ago, and I am so bad at this game that I might actually give up. I was a total punching bag last night - a knifing bag, really. My friend told me it was just a really hardcore server, but I don't know... I log in and it's just total confusion: Can't see anybody, don't know where my teammates are, don't really know what the objective of the map is, and when I do get an enemy in my sites, I can't seem to hit them for shit. I played the hell out of BF 1942 and BF2, but skipped 2142 and all the other in-between stuff. It has been years since I played anything using this engine. I may be too old; reflexes too slow (though I am okay at TF2 which is pretty twitchy, so I dunno...)

Hopefully the game just has a steep learning curve and I'll get it soon.

Playing hardcore sucks because theres no map. You just need to get enough kills to unlock support kits and you can score points without shooting dudes in the face.

oops, i didn't mean it was a hardcore mode server - just that the dudes on it were "hardcore".

rockapads - I think this game is much less reflex / twitch based than most, more about map awareness and carefulness (I'm no expert in this game, actually pretty bad too so far, though I did have a game yesterday where I got a nice 2.0 k/d ratio & feel like I'm slowly improving). Most of the the guns are best used burst style, so you don't want to hold down the trigger as you'll get too much spread... what you want to do (in general) is fire off in quick bursts to keep your bullets hitting the target (does that make sense?), or go spiner for nice onse shot kills (keep in mind gravity effects your shots in this game too, so the further away you're shooting a guy, the higher you have to aim for a headshot (you don't want to sight on his head, but a bit above)). Use the mini map to locate your teammates. Your squad is blue and the rest of your team is green (or is it the other way around?). The objective of course depends on the mode, but in Rush is marked with an A or B, so shouldn't be too hard to get a hang of. In deathmatch there obviously is no objective. In conquest there are three to five flags, right? All these games take a while to get the hang of - keep in mind, you may be playing against people who have played a lot, maybe even months worth of the game if they were in the beta - so you have to catch up if you're just starting out. Also the game has an unlock system, which gives players who have put in the hours to unlock the better stuff a distinct advantage.

keep in mind gravity effects your shots in this game

!!! impressed!

rockpads - as you unlock stuff there are other things you can do to earn a good score other than just focusing on killing and not being killed. Playing a medic roll & focusing on healing people or reviving fallen comrades can be fun and challenging and a great way to get points without even having to worry much about shooting. A good medic can really help a squad a ton.

Thanks for the advice, Jeff. I played as a medic in BF2 and had a blast. It really annoys me that they don't start out with anything. I'll get dudes calling for a medic and I'm just standing there with my huge machine gun unable to help.

this is a really good tips video, rockapads, spotting is really important in this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p4fkH9qC4M

btw
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean9/360/cozeny.png

I have 98 dogtags don't know what's wrong there

killed 2 enemy tanks w/the engineer's repair tool earlier :D

how to avoid mapathy without paying

I watched that noob video twice yesterday, and spotted everything I could last night (in between getting one-shotted by snipers and guys running around with knives).

spotted everything I could
http://www.ussstriblingdd867.org/sitebuilder/images/Eagle_Tear-139x135.jpg
so proud

hey dudes it only takes 6,300,000 pts to reach top rank

If you have this on PC you should friend me (in-game name is Deux Sept) because it doesn't integrate with the Steam community at all :(

jesus...

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if its down again all weekend I am going to bitch and complain all over this here internet.

it's been fine for me *shrug* but this is pretty lol:

If you can't connect to BFBC2 servers on your Xbox 360 turn your console off and on and try to connect again.

Cozen - I'm surprised with how many hours you've been able to log as 50% of the time I've tried to play I've been unable to connect & EA servers have been down EVERY time I've tried in the last two days - maybe it's a US thing?

I think its an xbox-PC thing. PS3 has been undisturbed I think.

I'm on xbox. there's been disturbances but I've got by

try ps3 ;)

motion sensors <3<3<3<3
http://skitch.com/davidhowie/n337e/dsc00022.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20100313-ndyrjustgxeiu5wc1j95h3qrrd.jpg

loving this game now. much better at it than mw2.

Not sure the K/D ratio is working there. If 17-0 is a K/D ratio of 17.00, what would 17-1 be?

You must have broken it with your awesomeness!

in which case my K/D is surely ∞

I am getting better at this, but I can't decide which class to play. I had a blast as a medic in BF2, but this game is so spread out, I don't feel like it would be as intense as it was in the crowded city maps in that game. I am actually finding myself switching between engineer and assault.

I was finally able to connect to the EA servers again tonight and got in a couple of matches. I'm coming around and enjoying this game more and getting the hang of it, I think. Went 17/3 in one of the matches! I feel like assault is a good class for me right now - I like spawning on a camping sniper, tossing out some ammo for him and earning some easy points, then moving out to flank / spot / attack.

weird thing - MW2 I could play drunk, no problem, this? after a couple of beers and a couple of industrial strength caipirinhas - I sucked soooooo hard, couldn't get a decent shot away, in fact I think I got most kills from mortar strikes and vehicles (drunk driving into buildings/flag areas).

When not pissed, am really enjoying the usefulness of the pistols in this - decent range and the ww2 one unlocked with the special edition inflicts some good damage.

yeah that ww2 one is really ridiculous

this game is so complicated it's a bit silly DICE didn't include a tutorial for each of the classes & their kit and the vehicles e.g. only learned yesterday that smoke removes tracer darts from vehicles. and I'm sure a lot of ppl don't know that if you keep still when you hear the beeping, the enemy's motion mines won't detect you

after a couple of beers and a couple of industrial strength caipirinhas - I sucked soooooo hard

HA. same thing happened to me yesterday. i was playing sober and doing really well, getting the most kills on my squad every round on squad DM. then...the weed guy came. WOW I SUCKED.

Jeff LeVine, i played in a squad with Jeff_Lepine last night

crazy I played w/Matt_Buttler last night

U LIE

lol i played with David_Bowie

did you know you can take a screenshot by pressing back/select+start at the same time? they will be available at http://badcompany2.ea.com/stats when it's back up

also, no wonder the carl gustav wrecks infantry:

The RPG-7 delivers 450 damage and travels at a speed of "40".
A blast radius of 6 meters where only 2 meters are lethal to a soldier at full health.

The Carl Gustav delivers 350 damage and travels at a speed of "75", 1.875x faster than the RPG. It has a larger blast radius of 8 meters and nearly 5 of those meters are lethal to infantry.

The AT4 delivers 525 damage. Initial speed of "25", but from what I can tell, it can reach a max speed of 50 due to its nature as a guided missile. Smallest blast radius of only 3 meters. Lethal radius to infantry is half a meter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Sn2NMUdxk

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxsinjSRj0#watch-main-area

lol - yeah there are a few balance issues.

M24 with red dot is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdgviKG8N-w

I was dabbling with the red dot on the sniper rifles that are semi automatic. Not a bad way to go. Was also chucking motion mines like it was my job. Seems like NOBODY else does this on the games Ive played tho. What are they doing, saving them?

Play the new sniper cop class in Bad Company 2

Did you know the tracer dart can stick to friendly targets? It sits there and glows. For instance, if you affix it to someone's head - say, someone with a sniper rifle crouching just behind a ridge or in some foliage - that person's head will be super easy to spot from a long way off by other players with sniper rifles. Furthermore, if you attach it to someone's face, it will shine a red glow into his line of site and maybe even obscure his vision. It's like a fantastic glowing clown nose, or the schnozz of a certain reindeer who saved Christmas. And the beauty of a friendly tracer dart is that there's no way to remove it short of dying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Qpui1hYBw&feature=sub

fun article. I used to love Tom Chick, but I can't remember which site it was he wrote for.

I like the idea of the dart pistol (for legit stuff), but using it instead of a pistol that actually does damage is really hard, especially if you use a shotgun as your big gun.

loving the medic kit right now

cack handed sometime ilx poster gukbe degraded my KDR by 5 points yesterday lol

this game is an abomination of frustration when you're not playing in a dece squad

so true. when you got some smart players working together it's really awesome. people are so thankful when you defibrilate them!

i get so irritated when i am defibbed because i never have any grenades/bullets/rockets left and i am ABOUT TO SPAWN THERE ANYWAY

yeah that's def a thing

even worse maybe is when one guy keeps defibbing you over and over as a sniper rubs his hands in glee taking you out each time

yeah ASSHOLE I know you think I'm free points but cut that shit out

haha, thats why you need an assault there to throw ammo

points for everybody

commie

then u get matches where everyone wants to be a recon

pat bateman was a recon
http://mindlesscomfort.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bateman1.jpg

other points of irritation: trying to repair/chasing down a tank when its dickhead driver wants to blow you off and drive off to his doom

yeah same with teammates running away from you when they are obviously in need of my medical expertise

got this delivered today, going to play it all day Friday. Anyone on xbox wanting to have a noob in their squad please add me, gamertag is JimMessina.

wow just had a great run of games culminating with a 21-1 on white pass, managed to salvage the TRAUMA that gukbe had done to my KDR too ha

My kdr ratio suffers when I play on squads that are total shit and I end up getting slaughtered. But check out that awesome w/l ratio! hah

http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/detail4/360/bevens.png

Thats obv my gamertag if anyone wants to join and squad and talk to a stranger on the internet.

l-r: me, this game

http://www.dijitalfix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tom_hanks_big__1_.jpg

lol

stats!
http://bfbcs.com/stats_360/cozeny

<3 u boo
http://img.skitch.com/20100319-mr58p6qp4dbc5uskyh71bbej9b.jpg

official stats website is now up and running
http://badcompany2.ea.com/stats?persona=179257062&platform=360

lol

Don't be alarmed at seeing zero for all your stats!

We are getting your stats for the first time. Please wait for 2 hours 39 min

not getting along w/it jim?

i'm really bad at it which precludes my enjoying it. I will persevere.

My badness is three-fold:

1. I just generally don't have any awareness of where i am in the map and where my enemies are likely to come from. I get shot in the back a lot.
2. When i do come face to face with an enemy i am just not very good at aiming -especially at range- and I usually die even if I have the jump on someone.
3. When I play the way you should, i.e. trying to achieve objectives etc. I do very badly; the only times I've not gotten my ass handed to me I've not really done much more than kill a bunch of guys without helping the team in any other way.

no auto-aim in this whatsoever which really exacerbates point 2

I'm no expert, but this would be my ideas on your points jim

1. Persevere (as you say) and you will learn the maps (there aren't very many). For the most part though, the maps are pretty open - if you're not really working together as a squad, it's pretty difficult to protect your back.

2. Keep in mind, as you rank up you get better weapons, bullets and armour, so even if you have good aim, if you're at an early rank, you are usually disadvantaged if you come across a higher ranked player. Trying to engage people at some distance and also taking a knee (down on right stick) for increased stability can help. Also marking targets (hitting the back button) can sometimes get a team mate into the fight and increase your odds (and points). Finding the proper weapon to suit your style helps. Experiment.

3. Objective modes are very difficult if you're not on a team really working together. You just can't lone wolf this stuff. But even if your team isn't playing like a team, try to be aware of their positions on the mini map and use their location to you advantage.

I'm an expert stop being a noob

haha

Yeah the no auto-aim is probably a big thing. It's pretty egregious at times in MW2, e.g. aiming through my sites not really paying attention once when a guy ran by me and my crosshair tracked him for about 90 degrees and i just had to pull the trigger.

I spot a lot. That's the one thing I've got right so far in the game.

I have never been in a squad that was working together..

i find way more than any other game you really, REALLY gotta control your bursts-- i end up more like rapidly clicking the mouse than really "holding" the trigger.

ooh get him playing on the PPPPPPCCCCCCC

it's the only way to shoot first personly

first poncey shooter

I have never been in a squad that was working together..

― 404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow)

This is really the big problem with the game and the reason I've pretty much stopped playing already - that DICE didn't learn anything from BC1 and again released a team based game (where teamwork is essential) with a poorly conceived and executed system for interacting with your team. The fact that you can only communicate with 1/3 of your team is just stupid. A guy on my team, but not in my squad is five feet in front of me and I can't tell him to hold up as I'm about to drop a health pack for him? Or you're behind a tank trying to get in position to repair it, but you can't communicate with the driver to tell him to hold it for repairs because he isn't on your squad and he drives over you? The few times I've played on a decent squad, we just roll too, but even that is unsatisfying, because you know you're just rolling over non-communicating, non-working together squads, so it's hardly a fair fight, and hardly a challenge.

lolz wow I played every game just abt drunk this evening and didn't go positive in any match

crazy; got to agree w/chris, totally poss to go +ve drunk in mw2 but drink completely affects bf:bc2 performance

i used to love getting high and playing BF '42, but something tells me that would result in tears with this game.

ja; I wd love to get high and play bf:bc2 but... it wd def end in I am the cosmos & the wind tears

I've so not been able to give this the attention it deserves, been way too busy. Hence when I do play I tend to have half an hour here and there so I end up lone wolf, camping snipering it up. Still doing OK though, tend to do it in a helpful way - spotting plenty and chucking the motion sensors. Have found a couple of nice sniping corridors too that always seem to have players barrelling blindly down - especially on the last stand on the desert/harbour one, there's a spot that gives you a great view of A, and also the route from the opposition spawn point into the fun.

so i played on a squad that was working together last night, with cozen, and still ended up with a 5-11 kd :( Although to be fair a good few of those deaths were before i joined the squad and all the kills were after iirc.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/modern-warfare-2-players-flocking-to-battlefield-bad-company-2/

The cod trendline going down is interesting, but note that bfbc2's line is already going down as well

Gee - I don't think it's that interesting - CoD MW2 is about five months old - it's very typical... people always drift away as either new games come out or they have their fill. I'm sure if you compared it to previous CoD games or Halo 3 you would see about the same general trend and rate of decline. If anything, it's very impressive how many people are still playing the game this far down the line (on average I see around 400,000 people online at a time these days).

I just shot down 4 helicopters. <3 u carl gustav.

playing this game with a shit team is the most irritating thing going. Just went 3-16 there. Team full of snipers who didn't ever kill the enemy snipers and didn't attempt to disarm ever. Continually got shot by snipers as i tried to shoot down the helis with mounted machine guns and just generally got a doing. Absolute pish. My k/d had been sneaking up as well, to 0.85 :(

it really makes a huge difference how your teammates play. i've quickly left games where it was apparent my teammates didn't even know you're supposed to be cooperating with each other.

yeah I don't even play anymore unless I'm squadding up, too frustrating

forgive me father for I have sinned; I kno it makes me a twat but it's too satisfying killing people w/this
http://img.skitch.com/20100328-mftfqu35brna9xi6x9sj992hbe.jpg

in my defence tho, I've never used this OP pos
http://img.skitch.com/20100328-gy4j3jn2hr8iatrhpfm996k89i.jpg

by never I mean barely obv; I tried it out to see what everyone was crying about. I'm too conscionable a gentleman to abuse my uberleet bfbc skills w/the M60

I've picked the M60 up from other people but in the short time I've had it, didn't really notice it being OP. The final medic unlock seems better to me both in feel and stat-wise. What am I missing? The guns I hate the most are those fast firing sniper rifles. Well, I just hate snipers in general... in pretty much all video games. But those guns seem OP to me. I think it's the second to last unlock for them.

http://i.imgur.com/C50iK.png

M60 is 4 shots to kill at any range (3 shots w/magnum ammo at close range), compared w/6 shots for any other medic gun. it's also really steady and can be used really effectively to counter-snipe. iunno, compared to any other gun available to the medic (except the G3, which is limited by its 20 bullet clip) it seems over powered

still playing far too infrequently, so still lone-wolfing with a sniper, but getting just as many kills with the 1911 pistol, it's bloody great. Favourite trick is hanging back, spotting and sniping, but also taking out those guys who think they're being so clever flanking the spawn site, had one bloke 4 times in reasonably quick succession earlier, wading up under the piers, same way every time. Can't understand why no-one else seems to be watching that flank, but hey, is all good.

Well, I just hate snipers in general... in pretty much all video games.

amen

Is there a sniping video game? Where all you do is sniping? Like, an assination game or something? That would rule!

Sniper Elite, wwii stuff. not bad, old but still snipe fest.

Also the OG Sniper Scope, where in the arcade version there's another monitor inside the scope showing you the detailed zoom view.

http://i41.tinypic.com/5x1yeu.png

antexit means Silent Scope. Avoid home console conversions, they're pointless, but the arcade cabinet was great. One of the few machines I've ever reached the top of a scoreboard on (in Camber Sands, during atp).

people are ridiculous bandwagonning whores to a man

M60 has almost two times the kills of the highest assault rifle and the 1911 has almost three times the kills of the next best pistol (the rex). I can't believe the 1911 has more kills than the grenade, the M95 and the gustav

that chart is hilarious to me - pretty much describes my average night these days. though, I'd re-rank things I die the most to:

1. 40mm grenade
2. M24 Sniper
3. Knife
4. M1911
5. XM8 P

maybe it's the servers I play on, but I don't notice dying to a lot of M60 medics.

the close-range 40mm grenade deaths are infuriating.

can't wait to get the M60!

haha, i am a few nights away from obtaining it.

i wreck shit with the LMGs, clowning my squad by getting most kills in the round with medic

Ive been trying to rack up some kills with the lmg with the built in red dot but I feel like its contrary to the whole packing an lmg steez

I tried the red dot for a few rounds, but I much prefer the faster run speed or the more effective health kits.

love this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjASODtGaNk

hilar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QrHY2Y2HBc&feature=digest

^need to find the ilxor w.the voice most like this and make friends w/him

tanks die too easily in this game. the idea that throwing some C4 on the back of a tank is going to instantly destroy it seems wrong to me. I'd rather see disabling a tank's treads as something anyone with grenades or explosives could do.

also: nerf the 40mm grenades already. I'm not even sure how.. maybe by increasing splash damage? the thing I hate about them is the short range kills. Ditto for Carl Gustov.

Ive been busting my ass trying to unlock all the bronze stars for every gun only to realize the m1a1 thompson doesnt record any kills whatsoever.

When I realized my PC could run this as well as an xbox, I decided to double dip and pick it up on PC - also because I always felt it would be better playing a game like this on PC - and for me it is. There's something about keyboard and mouse controls and really sitting up on your monitor paying attention (though I seriously need a bigger monitor as some of the further away targets are too small on my monitor to aim accurately onto) that feels right when playing a first person shooter. Somehow I'd forgotten this. Also these maps feel better with 32 players on 'em for the most part. I also appreciate the easy of using the server browser. Anybody else on here from North America got the PC version too and wanna squad up? My tag is jefflev13

Gotta say though, going back to being level 1 really sucks, especially playing against people who've been grinding up for the last month and a half. Currently my k/d ratio is less than half what it was on 360 and my k/d ratio on 360 was terrible. I still do have some serious complaints about the game, beyond its completely fucked up leveling system that makes it impossible to compete until you've put about twenty or more hours into the game. Mainly, the amount of people using the one hit kill weapons, the grenade launcher and carl gustav is even more prevalent than people using the noob tube in MW2 and has become even more annoying - I would guess those two weapons have accounted for 50% of my deaths since switching to PC, and I don't know - it's really fucking aggravating. I guess because there doesn't seem to be much skill involved with using either and they will beat out any early level load out 100% of the time. In fact, the only way to compete against those guys is to follow the same route and frankly I don't want to - I wanna use regular old guns (is that so wrong?).

Also the game could definitely use some more maps - honestly I wouldn't mind paying for them. Fuck, just port over the good Bad Company 1 maps or some of the smaller Battlefield 2 maps.

apparently because the damage model is difft on PC (requires more bullets to skill) 40mm and CG spam is even worse

looooooooooooooolll
http://i43.tinypic.com/2nm0lr8.jpg

Huge PC changelist for Wednesday (hopefully)

Our current plan is to allow Steam to test the patch tonight and all being well we will look to release R7 client and R10 servers on Wednesday morning European time. I'll update more on that later once the details are finalised.

In the mean time here is the R7 client changelist.

* MP – New Server browser
* MP – Added 15 second spawn timer for Conquest/Rush gamemodes at the start of round to prevent high end machines getting the upper hand before other machines load in.
* MP – Crash fixes relating to ALT+TAB at different times throughout the game
* MP – Hang fix when trying to connect to a full server multiple times
* MP – Deletion of soldiers now possible through the account pages in game
* MP – Removed screen flash during loading
* MP – Added support for colour blind players
* MP – Fixed crashes relating to faulty server banners
* MP – Servers closing during connection no longer cause the client to hang
* MP – Auto team swap reflects correctly in the scoreboard
* MP – Fixed scoreboards when switching teams before spawning
* MP – Rush scoreboards fixed
* MP – Veteran ranks no longer display as “12”
* MP – Isla Innocentes MCOM building fixed where knifing the fence would destroy the building
* MP – Logout/Login button correctly reflects the player status
* MP – Added minimum number of players needed to start a round (you can still start playing and take objectives but you won't get any score until 4 or more players join the server)
* MP – Isla Inocentes welcome message on the loading screen now fits the text box area
* MP – Reduced the brightness in Russian vehicles
* MP – Medic gadgets now display correctly if the defib is not unlocked
* MP – Server filter options are remembered
* MP – Punkbuster filter now works as intended
* MP – Scroll bar no longer overlays the Join Server button in the friends list panel
* MP – CANCEL server refresh is implemented
* MP – Zooming in on a friendly using the SAIGA no longer causes the crosshair to disappear
* MP – The chat no longer displays the incorrect player name when appearing
* MP – FoV switches to the default value of 55 when entering vehicles to prevent graphical glitches caused by wider FoV settings. The custom FoV returns when exiting vehicles.
* MP – FoV no longer causes the UAV station to rotate
* MP – Fix to correctly display the unlock progression at the end of round
* MP – Chat functionality will no longer freeze after writing a partial message at the end of round
* MP – One account can no longer connect to the same server multiple times
* MP – Squad Death Match is correctly named during loading
* MP – Server browser no longer gets a bad FPS when filtering Conquest
* MP – Server info banners correctly clear between displays
* MP – Setting display settings which the system hardware can not handle no longer makes the game unusable
* MP – Correct camera collision for vehicles' heavy machine gun
* MP – Game no longer crashes if the player sends a message in the loading screen
* MP – Trying to join a full server no longer causes the game to hang on Please Wait message
* MP – Most server filter options are remembered it doesn't remember the setting in dropdowns
* MP – Kit/gadget loadout saved between sessions
* MP – Window on static guns is now transparent on DirectX 9 systems
* SP – Fixed crashes when patching and trying to resume a campaign (there is now a message that you need to re-play the latest mission from the beginning)
* SP – Fixed a crash after the “Upriver” mission end cinematic
* SP – Supply create at “Resupply at Flynn’s create” objective now supplies weapon ammo
* SP – Hang fix when reaching the objective “Destroy Enemy Zu23”
* SP – Fixed hang after “Storm Cockpit” objective
* SP – Changed melee attack raycast to be detailed
* SP – Game no longer crashes when transitioning between SP_03B to SP_04A when installed in Polish
* SP – Game no longer crashes when killed by the first two enemies in the trenches on SP_01 when installed in Italian
* SP – Updating to R7 will invalidate your single player save game. If you update you will need to play your last mission from the start. If you do not update you will not be able to play multiplayer.

Here is the R10 Server changelist

* Punkbuster is required ON for ranked servers
* Ranked servers cannot be started with a password
* Autobalance message goes to text-chat instead of in the middle of the screen
* Added weapon balance tweaks to a number of weapons – we are eagerly awaiting feedback!

We aren't going to tell you what weapon balance tweaks we have done, we want your unbiased views on the changes before we detail what has changed.

* Added weapon balance tweaks to a number of weapons – we are eagerly awaiting feedback!

apple-like in its crypticness

any yankees who drink dr pepper want to give me a code pls

Ch ch ch Changes!

* BY: Demize99
* POSTED: Apr 21, 2010, 07:10AM
* COMMENTS: 111 (Login Required to Comment)

As requested by the community, here is the exhaustive all inclusive changelist of all balance updates made in the R10 Server update for PC.

Increased the base range of all Automatic and Semiautomatic weapons for more consistent close range combat.
Slightly increased the damage of Semiautomatic rifles over long range for more consistent damage output.

Increased the zoomed burst accuracy of LMGs and decreased LMG accuracy when moving to reduce LMG run and gun.
Decreased the base damage of the M60 and XM8 LMGs to bring them in line with the other LMG damage values.
Decreased the damage of the PKM over long range to balance it with other LMGs.
Increased the base damage of the Type88 LMG to balance it with other LMGs.

Slightly reduced the base damage of the M16 and G3 to balance the increased range.
Slightly increased the damage of the AEK971, F2000, AN94, and AUG over long range to balance them with other Assault Rifles.

Reduced the lethal blast range of the 40mm grenade and M2CG to highlight their role as a secondary weapon against infantry.
Slightly Reduced the max range of the 40mm shotgun to balance it with other shotguns.
Slightly increased the base damage of shotgun rounds and reduced their range to clarify ideal shotgun combat distance.

Reduced the base damage of the PP2000 to balance the increased range.
Increased the damage of the 9A91 over long range to balance its lower magazine size.

Increased the damage and range of the M9, M93 pistols to make them more desirable as a secondary weapon.
Increased the range of the MP443 pistol to make it more desirable as a secondary weapon.
Increased the damage of the MP412 over long range to balance its low rate of fire.
Slightly reduced the rate of fire of the M1911 pistol to balance it with other pistols.

Increased the repair and overheat speeds of the Power Tool. Now overheats sooner but repairs the same amount before overheating.
Increased the maximum number of Motion Sensors that can be carried from 2 to 3 and increased the speed which new sensors are acquired from ammo boxes.
Significantly increased the speed of the Tracer Dart projectile to make it more effective against airborne targets.
Increased the reload time of the Mortar Strike and reduced the damage it does to heavily armored vehicles.
Decreased the range of Bolt Action Sniper and Pump Shotgun Slug rounds when using Magnum Ammo for better Kit Balance, especially in Hardcore.
Slightly increased the Health of soldiers in Hardcore for better Kit Balance.

Increased the benefit from the Medkit Heal+ specialization to make it more desirable as a Specialization.
Decreased the benefit from Vehicle Reload Speed to balance it against other Vehicle Specializations.
Slightly decreased the benefit from accuracy specializations to balance the changes to range and accuracy tweaks.

Fixed a bug where the BMD3 would take extra damage to the front armor.
Reduced the explosive damage from Attack Helicopter cannons.
Increased the damage of AA guns against all targets. The AA gun should be much more effective against infantry on Port Valdez.

These changes will eventually make their way to the 360 and PS3 as we work with our partners Microsoft and Sony to continue to support BFBC2 on all platforms.

Very happy to read "Reduced the lethal blast range of the 40mm grenade and M2CG to highlight their role as a secondary weapon against infantry." Should be interesting to see how all this stuff changes the game.

yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out

not played for about 3 weeks, jumped on earlier for a few games and think I was only killed by the M60, M16 and 40mm

It's very cool that they're trying to fix and re-balance the game (at least on PC), but such a big changelist just goes to show you how broken the game has been so far. After such a long beta period, you'd think more of this stuff would have been caught the first time around. I definitely appreciate the support though - it's a shame Infinity Ward wasn't able to or didn't want to comb over MW2 to the same extent, as that game has probably needed it at least as much as BC2.

played a bit earlier, and I'm really clueless as to how the scoring works - did a full round, got a fair few kills (yes yes, camping sniper) but..... I recorded something daft like 5 kills, 3 deaths..... vbarely any points, but then I had the pistol kills pin (4 kills?) and my killingest weapon was the gol with 10 kills or so - how does that work out?

killingest weapon is tracked for all of your games on tht server not just the last game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR1iNovQcT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgFcJ38-IOc

yawn

mm, got my new pc and dived into steam. downloading this now..

if you haven't played BC2 b4, just keep in mind - the game is absolutely brutal for the first 10-15 hours while you build up stats to unlock better weapons and armour, but at a certain point it's worth it and becomes one of the great multiplayer games.

I'm close to having all the parts for my new PC assembled. I'll be playing this again in 2-3 weeks. Out of all the games I miss, this one is what I miss the most.

I havent played much since they tweaked the settings. Do people still use all the same goddamn guns all the time?

I actually found the first 10 levels way easier for some reason.

been practising on battlefield 2, goddam the weapon reload is brutally slow.

there should be an option to reload quicker - but suffer a possible weapon jam, in these games.

finished downloading BC. but is there anyway to play the multiplayer mode in single player, like in BF2?

so far the single player mode is this laaame on rails tripe. or is this just introducing me to the game?

Ste - single player is horrible, just forget about it. The game is about multiplayer & there is no version with bots - you just gotta jump in there and take your lumps.

shame, wanted practice before being abused by internet folk

okay, will have to dive in!

so i dove in...

and quite predictably got my ass chewed.

maps seem a bit smaller and more compact than b2 which is a shame because i like it a bit more open, i was a huge delta force fan which was my first ever multiplayer experience.

i'm pretty wank at this, but sticking with it for novelty value.

quick questions
what's squadding up all about?
what's spotting all about?

The squad thing... it's their system, when you push to talk, only your squad can hear you not your whole team (there's no way in-game for your whole team to hear you, but some servers have seperate teamspeak servers to get around this). Kind of stupid, IMO. Becasue of this system it seems like nobody used voice chat, when this is a game where it would be extremely useful if people did. The good thing about the squad system though is how you can spawn on your squad, which can get you right back into the action (instead of having to trek up from your base). You can also switch squads while dead, so you can spawn into a more favorable position, perhaps.

Spotting is great, as it makes it so everybody on your team now sees enemies with an orange triangle above their head and also on the mini-map. If you spot a guy and somebody else on your team kills them, you get points for spotting. It's extremely useful.

I would spot the shit out of everything I saw but nobody else does it, in my experience

haha i'm entirely addicted to spotting. To the point that when an enemy suddenly appears in front of me, I'll end up pressing Spot instead of Fire.

getting better slowly, managed my highest points in a game last night with lots of recon action. i normally engineer out, because i like to be helpful with the tank fixing and stuff. but i came upon a map i hadn't seen before, it was attack/defend in lots of jungle. so sniper seemed a good option.

i guess i'm the only ilxor who plays this? i'm still only on rank 9

it's driving me batshit lately, getting stuffed sometimes and weapons feel like they're useless (it gives me gun upgrades to shitter guns, why?!)
but then on occasion i can find a decent server with people who aren't all level 50 and things feel better.

it's addictive tho.

I still play now and then, but in general, haven't been in much of a shooting mood the last few months at least. I think I just hit level 19 the other weekend though.

I am really hot and cold with this game. haven't played in a few weeks now, due to being busy with Worms Armageddon, and also a really bad stretch of experiences involving really lame tactics and/or suspected cheaters.

Looks like the vietnam expansion is going to be dlc only. Not very excited about it.

What did pique my interest a bit was the fact that DICE is doing Medal of Honor's multiplayer. That and the single player campaign videos gives me slight hope that MOH is actually decent.

Everybody who was in the MoH multiplayer beta said it was HORRIBLE.

hah ok then there goes hope. cross another game off the to-do list.

anticipating the vietnam pack, pre ordered already.

still really like this game, and they've just released some new maps (which i believe are from previus versions). Heavy Metal map is fucking HUGE.

okay the vietnam pack is so so, maps are dull and weapons don't feel much different except the flame thrower which is useless for the most of time but much fun at close quarters.

and the servers fucked up yesterday leaving everyone on rank 0 with crap weapons.

I don't know - I had a good time with it, even though I was on the fence about picking it up, as I'm suffering shooter fatigue - played maybe three or four hours over the weekend, split between conquest and rush. I think I like it better than vanilla BC2. Kind of feels like the middle ground between BC and the XBLA/PSN version of 1943. I like the era, the historic feeling, the slightly more cartoony look. Game also now seems to perform better on my PC - a very smooth 60FPS on high, 1080p.

yeah it's still good to play, i was expecting more though - i'm not sure what exactly as i think it does what it says on the tin tbf. (and i really do have fun with that flame thrower)

There's one rush map that's just pure ridiculous, where the attackers walk through a stretch of river but just get hammered to fuck by enemy nades.

Battlefield 4 announced. Tweeters raving that it should be Bad Company 3

I'm not sure I see the difference between the two?

nobody?