nba stats 2014-15

anthony davis, 26-17-2, 3 steals, 9 blocks, 0 turnovers, 33 minutes.

anthony davis, 31-15, 2 steals, 3 blocks.

otto porter, who never scored in double figures last season, went 7-11 for 21 pts

klay thompson 41 points on 18 shots

demarcus cousins, 34 points (15-of-23), 17 rebounds, five assists, three blocks in a win over the clippers.

@ESPNStatsInfo: Rajon Rondo is 1st player since Magic Johnson in 1983 w/ at least 35 assists & 25 rebounds in his team's 1st 3 games of a season.

cp3 tripdub btw

yeah was just gonna post that

lesser stat: DJ had 8 points, all on highlight-reel dunks

weird to think thats his first trip dub as a Clipper

not that weird, he only averages like 4-5 boards per game

its a lot of guys averaging 4-b boards that have had more these past few years and most of those guys don't average 10 assists per game.

Plus it ain't as if the Clippers are particularly good at rebounding as a team

@ESPNStatsInfo: James Harden's efficiency: His 18 field goals in last 3 games are the fewest in NBA history for a player scoring 85+ points in a 3-game span

he looks great so far

James harden has already attempted 64 free throws this year in 5 games

lebron's barely even jogging to get back on defense

oops meant that for the main thread

rondo with 13-10-15 against the raptors

can't believe they blew the lead on that game tho

I mean I can but don't want to.

boogie 30 & 11 in 22 minutes

ha and he fouled out too ; )

mvp

warriors currently playing at the fastest pace and with the best defensive efficiency

Not surprised about the first one, their speed looks almost unreal

its just a very crazy combo, cant last

lowry 13-10-11

boogie 25-18 is absolutely killing it so far

steph 34-10-5-4

13-19 fg, 6-9 3pt too.

rockets 10-42 from 3.

some really incredible moves and shot making too

cp3 has 63 assists and 5 turnovers

crazy

davis 27-11-4stl-6blk

beast

def Leaping

all the way to the top

And the game winning shot

@thecity2: Lakers are allowing 5 points (per 100) more than the Mavericks (#1 offense) are scoring every night.

bron 32-12-10-1-1, 9-17 fg

big game from bron bron

with a bad back too

How many explosions did he have

prob like .75

That's not v explosive

he wasnt very explosive

iblocka third youngest ever to 1000 iblocks

Ibaka had four swats in the 106-89 loss, bringing him to 1,001 for his career at the age of 25 years, 41 days. Only Josh Smith and Dwight Howard reached 1,000 blocks at a younger age, with Smith setting the league record at 24 years and 59 days, per NBA.com.

that list makes no sense to me but hey bleacher report said it so who am i

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 17s18 seconds ago
Spurs’ Duncan-Ginóbili-Parker trio reached 500 wins Monday. They’re second behind Celtics’ Bird-McHale-Parish (540)

I don't think the league started keeping track of blocks until the 70s or 80s or something, wilt probably had 10000 blocks his first season

tru

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 4m4 minutes ago
Kobe Bryant: 13,405 field goal attempts missed entering the day ... 12 shy of John Havlicek's all-time record

u can do it kob

OJ Mayo with 19-4-1 off the bench for the bucks, total redemption story obvs

not sure if that belongs in stats or basketblolz really, Greek freak had 14-9-1

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 13s14 seconds ago
Anthony Davis: 3rd game this season with 25 Pts, 10 Reb, 5 Blk (no other NBA player has any such games this season)

millsap 30-17-3-2-2

millsap 30-17-3-2-2

With 0 free throw attempts.

cray

Jarrett Jack 10-10 FG

wow

Most ever FG's in a perfect game is 14, only one dude has done it:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fg_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=100&c2stat=fga&c2comp=gt&c2val=9&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=fga

man someone pre-'85 MUST have been perfect with more attempts

pau with the 27-11-2-3

xp Yeah true, forgot it has that limiter. Still, a pretty rare feat, especially for a dude that's not really a dunker.

i bet some wite with a set shot got hot in 1954.

16-16 PB (peach baskets)

hah

pau was feelin himself last nite

jarret, man you just knew he was gonna go off against the warriors. calling a 2-9 night next time he plays

revenge jack

over the last four games, all wins, damian lillard is averaging 23.0, 5.3, & 7.8 with 1.5 steals, hitting 4 threes per game, on 58% shooting from the floor.

Needed it after such a crap start

dame is so good but i was looking at his stats and for someone w his skills he doesnt get to the line enough whats up w that does he just not drive enough

he doesn't drive enough and isn't v good at selling contact. also he kinda has a reputation for never getting to the line and perception plays into this stuff a lot.

kobe bryant 1-14 fg

http://i.imgur.com/0KwnC5T.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2fh2cQCQAI_UKP.png

BBALLBREAKDOWN @bballbreakdown · 5m 5 minutes ago
44 players have used at least 200 poss and Steph Curry is ranked 10th in Pts Per Poss + Ast.
1. CP3 2. Lillard 3. Lowry

BBALLBREAKDOWN @bballbreakdown · 51s 51 seconds ago
159 players have used at least 80 possessions. In overall offense, Waiters ranks 143rd. Elfrid Payton is last. #DeepStats

brandan wright

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2ke6VFCAAEWYNb.png

DJ last night: 12 pts, 18 rebs, 7 blks

scary

Also CP3: 32 pts, 9 asts, 5 rebs, 2 stls, 10-13 FG, 5-6 3P

lol JR smith had 28 points today so basically he's gonna blow it in his next 3 games

Yup.

Melo has been great a few games in a row though. Too bad he has so little help, actually warming to him a lot lately.

Tom Haberstroh ‏@tomhaberstroh 2m2 minutes ago
Lakers' 114.7 defensive rating is the worst mark through 10 games since the NBA started tracking it in 1997.

as of right now, the only metrics brow isn't top 5 in are assists and FG% - he doesn't make top 40 in assists but is 9 in FG percentage w/.579

#3 in points (25.2 per game) and rebounds (11.7), #1 in blocks and steals (4.00 and 2.33)

alec burks 20(on 8 shots) - 14reb

xp sure enough, JR Smith was the weak link (among players you could even expect anything from) last night, although he did hit a pretty clutch 3 toward the end (and then miss the next one, iirc).

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 11m11 minutes ago
Anthony Davis has only committed 14 turnovers in 11 games. Not much (any?) precedent for such high usage/PER/low turnover rate.

brow 43-14-0-2-1, 16-23 from the floor.

wiggy career high 29pts

John Schuhmann ‏@johnschuhmann 2m2 minutes ago
Games played vs. opponents that played the night before: Miami 7, Oklahoma City 0.

wiggy's got some moves. I keep forgetting he's only 19, def has room to become a great.

he looks effortless out there gliding around floating up threes like hes shooting a foul shot, good stuff

he has a little bit of that weightless MJ quality, very springy

jordan was very forceful, also smaller, im thinking more like grant hill

yeah MJ was def stronger/more aggressive in his rookie year, but tbf he was two years older. Anyway not trying to build him up to be the next MJ, just see a lightness in his movement that reminded me a little of MJ.

you mean michael jordan the greatest basketball player ever

the same

Mo Speights is shooting 62% on mid-range jumpers greater than 16 ft.

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/11/25/jimmy-butler-bulls-breakout-tom-thibodeau-derrick-rose

the jimmy butler plot is an awesome one, recommend this reading

wrong thread though :b

Anthony Davis: 4/20 "best" games so far.

http://i.imgur.com/aNJ3HUA.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3YU297CUAAGNJZ.png

@KellyScaletta: LeBron James and Kyrie have played more career minutes together (399) than Jimmy Butler and Derrick Rose (314).

from the grantland NBA shootaround:

The Knicks and the Lakers are nos. 1 and 2 (as of Monday) in percentage of field goal attempts taken from 16 feet to inside the 3-point line — i.e., the much-maligned long 2 — 29.5 percent for the Knicks, 25.6 percent for the Lakers.

Both teams are in the bottom third of the league in percentage of attempts that are 3-pointers, an especially weird stat for the Knicks, who are shooting a league-leading 40 percent from beyond the arc.

aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa

weird, they are? I feel like they don't take many 3's when I watch them.

And I'm right, they are 23rd in 3PA. So I feel like that stat is probably the result of them having a lot of randos who can neither shoot 3's nor drive just running in and chucking up long 2's.

Both teams are in the bottom third of the league in percentage of attempts that are 3-pointers

d'oh

yeah misread that completely

lol

10 fga 10 fta 11 pts, who could this be...

Deandre?

Nope

nerlans?

Nah

shaq?

This was last night

i looked lol

lol yup, only guy I can think of with no significant injury history that got exponentially worse at basketball as he hit prime years

ha i looked it up too and lol duh

lol wooooooooooowwwww

SVG must be losing his damn mind

Russell Westbrook had a historic night during Friday's win over the Knicks, becoming the first player in the shot-clock era with 32 points and eight assists in 24 or fewer minutes, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

whau

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3stpBQCAAAIOmN.png

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 25s25 seconds ago
At 36 years + 99 days, Kobe Bryant becomes the oldest player in NBA history to record a 30-point, 10-rebound, 10-assist game (@EliasSports)

kd 27pts on 18 shots 1st game back

kobe bryant 4th on his team in fg attempts

anthony davis, patron saint of this thread, 25-10-4-6-4

he is unbelievable

2-12-19 for rondo

kobe: 12 points, 13 assists, 10 turnovers

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 28s29 seconds ago
Rajon Rondo had 19 asts, 2 pts Tuesday. Last player with at least 19 assists, 2 or fewer points: Muggsy Bogues (Charlotte), Feb. 18, 1994

Dragon and Bledsoe combined for 61 last night, I think it was both their season highs

isaiha was out last night

kyrie 37 pts on 12-18 fg

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 10m10 minutes ago
Knicks are 4-16. It's their worst 20-game start in team history

:)

its amazing how in this era of mass tanking and rebuilding some teams can still just be unintentially awful

Yeah hard to believe Knicks are tanking unless just masterfully hiding it. I don't credit melo with enough grand strategic thought or selflessness to deliberately miss so many shots though.

quincy acy outscored melo by 6 points (15 to melo's 9) - pretty sure that's a career low for melo. hardaway jr. was NY's top scorer w/ 20 off the bench

that should be a pretty accurate portrayal of the trouble that team is in

on the upside Stat is looking good

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Hqnn-CQAEG4_W.png

lol BOS

:[ :[ :[

portlands is crazy whats going on there

several big come from behind wins in huge fourth quarters mostly

but whyy

we're a laid back ppl

tyler zeller with 24-14-2 in his night of assertiveness against the LOLakers

Tommy Heinsohn ‏@CSNTommy 36s37 seconds ago
"He is a top-flight center prospect at both ends of the floor!" With 14 boards & a career-high 24 points, Tyler Zeller wins the #TommyAward

fact

tim duncan with a great old man tripdub against the grizz: 14-10-10

td is the coolest player

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4JUvMeCYAA4_yj.png

is there anybody in the league today with a game similar to malone's? I can't think of anybody off the top of my mind.

but also i don't at all think of malone as a singular player. idk maybe i just don't remember him too well is the prob here.

some similarities with aldridge maybe but def not an exact match

he's like weird abomination of a more athletic zach randolph and aldridge

def quicker than either of those guys, ran the floor really well

young boozer had some malone light qualities maybe

yeah good call

sixers won again

Pau 20/20

Draymond career high in points including 7 three pointers:

31-7-3-4-3

kid is gonna get paid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmJT5ci-thc&list=UUhIAs4ygmtgG0lfBWwjIv9Q

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Q4GkUIIAAxn-e.png

dumars still there?

interesting stat lines from the celtics-wiz: Kelly O. with 19-11-3, best game yet for marcus smart with 23-4-5

on the wiz side, paul pierce with 28-7-3 and 2 steals, plus the whole ya know taking sole possession of no. 16 on the all-time scoring list

blake 45 & 8 on 24 shots.
bledsoe 27-10-16-2-2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4bHZ9jCAAAVvTG.png

rockets have taken 172 mid-range shots; next lowest team is sixers at 299

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42s43 seconds ago
•The Warriors lead NBA with 17.9% of their points from fast breaks. League average is 12.5%

dubs ballin out

they look so good.

carlos boozer, who is 6'9", has one block in 550 minutes of playing time this year.

rondo 12-10-10

the wiggster 23-10-4-2

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 4m4 minutes ago
Steve Kerr: 1st coach in NBA history to win 19 of his first 21 games

harden was really good tonight

bearded one's line from last night: 44-4-8 with 3 steals, one block. dag.

He's definitely taken Wade's old spot as the 2 guard who randomly gets a couple of steals and/or blocks per game which actually is a ton of defensive value

wade was a legitimately dominant defensive player tho, that's not really a fair comparison

lebron 41 points on 17/24 shooting

wade was a legitimately dominant defensive player tho, that's not really a fair comparison

― k3vin k., Saturday, December 13, 2014 9:03 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tru was just thinking more in terms of advanced stats and fantasy lol

Wade was def a destructive 1-1 defender back when his body worked

d-rose line from last night's win over blazers: 31-3-5 with 1 steal in 31 mins of play

drose is back, now if the bulls can get noah up to speed after than offseason knee surgery that has slowed him down a lot they shd be pretty sick

theyve been dece so far and their D hasnt even been that good (9th)

sry 10th, 9th is their offensive efficiency

anyway doesnt seem like theyre near peak on either end yet

On Saturday the 76ers set the NBA record in the shot clock era for fewest two-point makes in a game with 11. LeBron James, LaMarcus Aldridge and Derrick Rose each had more field goals on the night.

MCW tripdub from sixers close-but-no-cigar game against the grizz: 16-11-11

in 19 minutes of play, Andre Roberson posted 5 rebounds and no other stats.

Kawhi with the quiet 18pts-8rbs-4ast-5stl-6blk

so close to the 5x5!

Even then he's in good company (mostly Hakeem)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=stl&c1comp=gt&c1val=5&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=8&c3stat=blk&c3comp=gt&c3val=6&c4stat=ast&c4comp=gt&c4val=4&order_by=pts

that top game by hakeem is truly insane 38pts! 12blocks! 17reb!

What's similarly insane is that they still lost

assertive kelly O with 30-9-1 plus 3 steals and 2 blocks

tbf im not sure there was another team on the court for much of that

Damian Lillard is first NBA player with 500+ points, 150+ assists, 125+ rebounds and 60+ 3-PT in first 25 games since Gary Payton (1999-00).

good basketball players

love the glove

gerald green 2-15 from three

Oregon State Hoops ‏@OregonStateMBB 11m11 minutes ago
Two players in Oregon State history have recorded triple-doubles. Gary Payton in 1988 and Gary Payton II in 2014.

zbo 21-21 48mins

BBALLBREAKDOWN ‏@bballbreakdown 12s12 seconds ago
Jeff Green is averaging 20 pts a game, shooting 45% from the field.

good breakdown!

Royce Young ‏@royceyoung 3m3 minutes ago
Per Elias, Durant's 30 points in 18 minutes makes him the first player since the merger to score 30 in under 20 minutes.

He really loves playing the Warriors

34-7-9-4-1 for curry tonight

insane game too bad durant got knocked out tho

brow 30-14-3-2-5

yeah durant was going crazy.

Kobe Bryant has taken 95 contested midrange jump shots so far this season. This exceeds the contested midrange attempts by the Heat (94), Magic (94), Celtics (90), Nuggets (90), Pelicans (86), Cavs (86), Jazz (82), Sixers (81), Grizzlies (79), Pistons (74), Hawks (63), and Rockets (41).

holy moly

incredible

how many of those has he made?

12

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 50s51 seconds ago
Spurs are 3rd team in NBA history to play consecutive 3OT games, but they're 1st to ever LOSE consecutive 3OT games.

dame dash lillard: 43-3-6 with 2 steals and a block daaaaaaamn

must say tho, I'm slightly more impressed with timmy getting 32-10-3 and 4 blocks, because old

mirotic 6-6 from three

his shot, effortless

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 2m2 minutes ago
Anthony Davis: 5th game with 30 points, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks this season (rest of NBA has 2 such games)

kobe bryant 8/30 from the field, 9 TOs

this kobe season is going down in history

wonder if he can do it two years in a row

his fg% is down to 37.2%

he must know, does he know

Doesn't care. Comes from a generation of ppg >>>> fg%

harden 44-3-7 (14 for 26 fg), 5 steals in 32 minutes.

dame the god 40-6-11, 2 steals, 2 turnovers, 8-12 3pt, 11-21 fg. fourth game in five nights.

Deej with 15-22 and 4 blocks

manimal 26-25

^^^ in 29 minutes played, easily the fewest of the 25/25 club

Wow that's really something

deande with the rodmanesque 4-20-2

drayman with a very draymond-y night

4-8-6-6-3

bradley beal in what must be his first ever stats thread mention
33-5-3-1 on 9-17 shooting (5-11 from 3).

and the guy who was guarding him, harden
33-6-4-1 on 12-23 shooting. call it a draw.

John Schuhmann ‏@johnschuhmann 1m1 minute ago
John Stockton recorded more assists after he turned 30 than any current player (except Nash) has in his career

Wow even cp huh

stockton was indestructible tho and cp has had injury issues

stockton was like lance armstrong but real

kd 44-10-7

Draymond trip dub

16-11-13-2-2

BBALLBREAKDOWN ‏@bballbreakdown 12s13 seconds ago
#Hawks are 5th in 3pt shooting efficiency, yet only have 2 guys shooting above average in Korver and Mike Scott...

Knicks could learn a thing or two

John Schuhmann ‏@johnschuhmann 1m1 minute ago
Players averaging 10 points, 10 rebounds & 2 blocks - Anthony Davis, a 34 year old & a 38 year old: http://on.nba.com/1xH2UgS

BBALLBREAKDOWN ‏@bballbreakdown 7s7 seconds ago
Kyle Korver is flirting with an incredible 50/50/95 season, currently at:
50% FG, 51.7% 3FG. 94% FT

crazy

50 50 90 is insane

The Bucks working on perfect averageness rn
17-17 record, 4-4 at home, 10-10 on the road, 4-4 in their division, 11-11 in their conference, 99.1 points for & against a game, & 5-5 in their last 10

ha wow

.500 is a big step up for them

Yah they are competitive

those bucks numbers are too spooky

very jason kiddy-y too....

Lillard fastest in NBA history to 500 3 pointers.

Crazy! Curry needs one more to be fastest to 1000 by more than 100 games to the next guy on the list.

lillard is fifth all-time for blazers 3pt fgm already it is crazy

rondo alt double-double 2-10-14 on 1-13 shooting

What's crazy is how much better they looked with him in the game despite that.

zaza pachulia managed to have 6 turnovers in 24 mins tonight, which for a big man seems outrageous

Currys 30 and 12 assists vs the raps the other night was only the 17th 30 and 12 in league history with no turnovers. Last was cp3 in 09

http://i.imgur.com/rDSDqVy.png

goldsberry final experiences the epiphany thats been eluding him

good piece http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets

feel like tho the next big thing efficiency/stats dudes are gonna have to come to terms with is that some players tendency to bonk in the playoffs isnt just small sample size but related to style of play and ability to adjust, ie viewing the playoffs tactically as a series of moves and counters rather than like a flat plane upon which you do stats

particularly efficient chucker types like harden and westbrook seem to have problems when opponents defenses are prepared and locked in, overlaps with ball dominant scoring point guards which also seems to be an issue

goldsberry final experiences the epiphany thats been eluding him

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:26 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's almost as though how many actual shots you make is somehow more important than your place on the below avg/avg/above avg spectrum from a particular area, in NBA basketball in 2014-15.

thats not the epiphany!

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 24s25 seconds ago
Clippers’ win vs Lakers on Wednesday was their fifth 20-point win over Lakers in last 3 seasons (6 such wins in previous 42 seasons)

pau 46-18

unbelievable

career high points

hes loving life in chicago

Wau Pau

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Pkj76CUAAcetS.png

did not realize ross was so money

mo williams 52pts

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 1m1 minute ago
Last 6 players with 50-point game versus the Pacers

George Gervin
Larry Bird
Bernard King
Michael Jordan
Chris Webber
Mo Williams

Wow 7 assists too!

double doubles for dos mavericks: tyson chandler w/ 16-17-1 and monta ellis with 28-4-10.

rondo close to a tripdub but no cigar with 21-5-7

whoa I kinda forgot about mo williams this year

classic sad vet w a lil left in the tank stuck on a rebuilding team

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7UrtYwCQAIuRQS.png

Kevin Pelton ‏@kpelton 24s25 seconds ago
Derrick Rose is on track for the worst 3P% ever with >5 3PA/G.

Ouch! Crazy they are as good as they are w him and Noah being so bad

Jimmy and Pau running things

kobe career high 17 assists in a meaningless loss in the middle of a lost season

Horford 22 pts on 8 for 8 shooting

wiggins 30-9-4

3 blocks too, wau

Chris Herring ‏@HerringWSJ 15m15 minutes ago
Andrew Wiggins averaged 12 pts on 38% shooting over his first 24 games. In his last 13 gms, he's averaged 21 points on 51% shooting.

Twolves making out pretty well with this trade atm

atlanta on pace for 66 wins

Pacers Hornets lowest score after for an overtime game in shot clock era hstory
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400578892

In the past three games, Horford is 27 of 32 (.844) from the field.

Wow

dubs today

http://i.imgur.com/TosEvTd.png

austin rivers has officially made a field goal as a member of the clippers

Grats to the rivers fam

the most important stat: family

harden 45 points on 18 shots

Jeez.

splash bros both 7/13 from the floor and both 4/4 from the line

halfway through the season, the rockets have already broken the record for most games in which a team made 15+ 3 pointers (they have 11)

The league is changing (has changed) so much

more stats dump: russ leads the league with a 38.4 usage rate. that's kobe in 06 territory

f the h8rs russ

that's crazy considering he missed a month of games at the beginning of the season. i am remembering that game against SA on xmas when he went nuts as sort of the canonical example of high use russ. i wonder what the stat is in games where durant is healthy

In the Nugs game, Shaun Livingston:
12 points, 6/6 FG, 3 AST, 3 STL, 0 TO.

that's crazy considering he missed a month of games at the beginning of the season. i am remembering that game against SA on xmas when he went nuts as sort of the canonical example of high use russ. i wonder what the stat is in games where durant is healthy

― pursuit of happiness (art), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well usage rate only considers plays when he's on the floor

jennings 24 pts 21 assts

ha was coming here to post that one

CP3 17 assists in less than 25 minutes hasn't happened since doc rivers did it in 1987

Wow, Doc is old.

KLAY MF THOMPSON in 33 minutes of play

52-2-5-4-2

including 11/15 from three and an nba record 37 points in the third quarter

http://bkref.com/tiny/JEYj2

malone w no threes is something else

everyone else on that list got there with a minimum 20 fta. klay attempted 10 last night.

kobe game like a month before he scored 82

So you're saying Klay's going to score 70 in late Feb.?

yes

Sweet, I'll make sure to actually watch it this time.

kevin love's game high this year is 30

Whiteside w trip dub in 23 mins. pts rebs blks.

wuuuuut

12 blocks!

"what was your motivation today?"
"...just trying to get my 2k rating up"

hassan put me in a coma

That's insane

Hassan Whiteside ‏@youngwhiteside Aug 14
Note to self keep dunking on people on till they believe in you

he was demoralizing the bulls in the 4th quarter

dropped him from my fantasy team last night

thats the feeling of him dunking on u

I got posterized but the poster is me at my laptop thinking I'm being clever when truly I am not

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 3m3 minutes ago
Hawks have won 30 of 32 overall, 10th team in NBA history to have 30 or more wins in a 32-game stretch

unreal

Hawks win streak is longest in Atlanta pro sports history, bettering the Braves 15 game streak in 2000.

warriors/hawks feb. 6

whiteside first guy with 12 blocks in 25 or fewer minutes since manure in 1989

since what

Manute probably hates autocorrect more than anybody

that or Clay had to sit behind Manute at a movie

ha

;)

http://i.imgur.com/PBxTZHz.png

Over the past seven games, Horford is shooting 73.6 percent (53 of 72) from the field.

@tomhaberstroh
If Kobe is out for the season, it's official: Nick Young assisted Kobe zero times in the 287 minutes that they shared the court this season.

:)

IDM == I Don't Miss U, Kobe

kobe bean bryant final stats for 2014-15 season:
35 games played, 34.5mpg, 7.6 fg, 20.4 fga (1st in league), 37.3 fg%*, 1.5 3p, 5.3 3pa, 29.3 3p%, 5.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.2 bpg, 3.7 tov, 22.3 ppg

* = career low

crazy nug from lowes allstar column

Griffin is tossing up one of the great passing seasons of all time for a big man. He has assisted on 25.5 percent of the Clippers’ baskets while on the floor; only four players 6-foot-10 or taller have posted better assist rates over a full season: Kevin Garnett, Toni Kukoc, Vlade Divac, and Joakim Noah.

is griffin really 6-10? always thought he was shorter

but yeah bigger point is that griffin is just as good of a player as he's always been, if not better. if DAJ didn't steal half his rebounds there wouldn't be a discussion

listed at 6-10 but yeah def looks more like 6-8

watched lamarcus back him down over and over again the other day and lma has at least 3 inches on him imo

The only reasonable explanation is that LMA wears lifts.

Blake seems like he's holding back this year a little. Settling for that j maybe too much?

blake 2013-14
http://i.imgur.com/clrRqYL.png

blake 2014-15
http://i.imgur.com/x87bSp0.png

seems like he setting up just a lil too far out w that j

seems like if he cld get it more around the foul line hed have an easier time faking and going to the basket

great spot to pass from obvs too

http://i.imgur.com/weVhDX0.png

on the other hand maybe he shd step back

still taking almost 50% of his shots at the rim not too bad

last years

http://i.imgur.com/EMHQV0J.png

ts% overall is down 3.5

D Rose 1st player in NBA history with 30 or more points, 10 or more TOs, and 1 or fewer assists

Haha seriously a bizarre performance. Played solid d on curry for the most part too.

someone on twitter was talking about how the roof would be coming off nba twitter if russ had a game like that, but with rose everybody's all awwww

Mighta been a different story had he not hit that game winner tho.

which was a bad shot!
his ast/to ratio is pretty horrendous this year

him and his backup Brooks are 2nd and 4th worst in the league amongst PGs. yikes.

Oof

I just caught that rose game winner, yeah that is far from ideal, partic with klay draped all over him

rose taking 33 shots and getting to the line 0 times is unreal

http://bkref.com/tiny/blTIA

needless to say u throw in that 1 assist and he had a truly historic night

jarrett jack 35-8-13 in a loss

clippers and nets were a combined 16/43 on FTs tonight

oof

worst ft shooting game in the history of the nba

how about kevin loves shooting over the cavs win streak

http://i.imgur.com/ZsJkZA8.png

the lakers are gonna give him so much money

Curry 51 4 4 1
Westbrook 45 6 6 1 1

not bad fellas

westbrook 48-9-11
brow 41-10

Marcus Morris career high 34 + 12 rebounds

Draymond with 12 and 20. That's points and boards, respectively.

sixers on a four game home winning streak

of the 1,000 games popovich has won as of tonight, tim duncan has been in 929 of them.

westbrook 48-9-11

damn, never forget

lol

kd 40pts 19fg

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 18s19 seconds ago
Mitch McGary: 36 points and 20 rebounds in 48 minutes in his last 2 games

my boy

22 & 27 for deandre

xp mitch mcgronkowski

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9fed6GCEAAqevX.jpg

good graphing, useful

harden 40-12-9-3

harden is so good

there was a time when i thought harden would never be as good as peak manu but i think he's passed it

idk peak manu was pretty peak, tho he never logged big minutes, his defense was better, idk

no one quite seems like theyre deconstructing the nba like harden does right now /freedarko

harden is quite obviously better

or at the very least quite obviously more valuable

kinda depends on how you look at it

manu made like one all-nba third team and harden looks like a perennial mvp candidate fwiw

these are... not good metrics

Harden is 25, which is how old Manu was when he debuted in the NBA

Harden has scored 1442 points this year to date, which coincidentally is also the most Manu ever scored in a full season.

I'm just saying manu never contributed on the level harden is atm. it's prob a question of being the third wheel on a great team but idk if that doesn't matter.

manu being better than harden is like the peak of spurs revisionism

harden is having a better season this year so far than manu ever had... prob, but thats the first time thats happened so im not read to crown him yet

the thing abt harden is tho he has been straight up awful in the playoffs, this is imo a problem w his style of play, ball dominant players dont really cut it anymore against good prepared teams, you see the same thing with westbrook, ie everyone knows how important ball movement is now, stupid habits that he can get away with because of his insane skill in the regular season like dribbling out the clock then taking a stepback three become pretty dubious in the postseason

which is not to say he cant figure all that out, just that he hasnt yet

also smh posters to this board not knowing how good manu was, u fail the knowing about basketball test sry

Harden has scored 1442 points this year to date, which coincidentally is also the most Manu ever scored in a full season.

― polyphonic, Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:07 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm just saying manu never contributed on the level harden is atm. it's prob a question of being the third wheel on a great team but idk if that doesn't matter.

― Clay, Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:07 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

manu being better than harden is like the peak of spurs revisionism

― micah, Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:10 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

will never consider anything any of you have to say again, prob just skip yr posts

well he was pretty good in the playoffs for OKC, he basically singlehandedly won them several games during their finals run

his first year with houston they were an 8 seed so whatever but last year he was not very good. i think he's getting even more adept as handling the ball out of the pick and roll though.

won them a few games... lost them a few games

but anyway here u go, feel free to attempt an argument that harden has been anything less than a far worse player in the playoffs http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3992/seasontype/3/james-harden

harden was ridiculously bad in the first rd last year for sure

arguably even worse the year before, first three years in okc, not great

when harden swats a free-flying bat right out of the air I will be as impressed as hell, until then I will just be highly impressed

there's probably a bunch of bats living in his beard tbh

NBA on ESPN ‏@ESPNNBA 24s25 seconds ago
Stat of the night: Bucks are 1st team in NBA history to double previous season's win total before All Star break.

That's awesome

Jason Kidd should not and never should be in contention for Coach of the Year.

Even placing his name in the same sentence is shudder worthy.

the bucks have been really overrated by some people but kidd has done a pretty good job with what he's been given. he's not in the top 3 tho

most of the time they give it to someone in exactly kidds situation hel prob win

naw i don't see how it's not kerr or bud

bud could easily get the "exceeded expectations" vote you're referring to

bud has not exceeded expectations at all!

ha wait my bad

i was thinking of blatt

anyway i think theyll give it to kidd cause hes an ex player whos exceeded expectations and is new on the scene

lol blatt will probably get some votes if the cavs stay hot even though it's prob more due to the GM and the forces of time

anyway i think theyll give it to kidd cause hes an ex player whos exceeded expectations and is new on the scene

― lag∞n, Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:37 PM (41 seconds ago)

i just don't see how kidd could win the "exceeded expectations" vote over a guy ahead of him in the standings in his own conference

im not saying its right kidd just has the feel to me

blatt deserves to win, maybe he will who knows

i mean bud lol ive got some sort of problem

Sean Grande ‏@SeanGrandePBP 2m2 minutes ago Cambridge, MA
Celtics had lost 12-straight one-point home games in the last ten years, three of them to the Lakers.

C's PG in the last win? Gary Payton.

bucks were 29th in defensive efficiency for 2013-14 and this year they are 2nd, behind the dubs. they've made numerous other improvements and even tho their absolute ceiling this year is prob the 2nd round in the east [insert justified eastern conference rip] that's nothing to sneeze at. it's also not entirely due to kidd, and guys like bud and kerr don't have ugly personal histories like he does, so I doubt he'd ultimately take COTY

@jorgeccastillo
Ramon Sessions played in 83 regular-season games last year.

ibaka 21 & 22

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-ZYooZIAAACniE.jpg

holy shit

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 2m2 minutes ago
Russell Westbrook: 38-38 FT last 3 games.

Most made FTs w/o a miss in 3-game span since Washington’s Moses Malone (41-41) in 1987 (#Elias)

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 29s29 seconds ago
LeBron James passed Allen Iverson to move into 22nd place on the NBA's all-time scoring list.

bron entering the setting records phase of his career

westbrook 21-8-17

in 27 minutes

he's worked his way into the mvp convo

agreed

one of russ, harden, and curry won't make all-nba first team huh

Maybe they will follow Kerr's lead have a three-guard attack.

lol these guys

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ck9byepba3nqjafsmg3g.jpg

can we combine them? do we have the technology?

wld be like the best player in the nba

would basically just be lebrun no?

lil bron

AKA Klay.

uh

Best two-way 2-guard today!

2-day! I mean.

XD

lol those remind me of pokemon

harden 32-11-10

in his last 570 minutes with the utah jazz enes kanter had 5 assists

In Sunday’s win over Denver, Kanter posted 20 points and 12 rebounds in only 26 minutes, becoming the first Thunder center ever to finish with at least 20 points and 10 rebounds

WOW

ha really

lol great stat

Krstic came close:

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=310309002

russ 20-10-11

russ averaging 30-8-10 in feb

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 50s51 seconds ago
Russell Westbrook was 12-38 tonight (31.6%). That's the lowest FG pct of any player with a 30-point triple-double in the last 25 years.

not even missing all the shots can stop him

imagine russ mvp lol

even with all the trades the thunder have no offense without him

even with all the trades the thunder have no offense without him

waiters can't even run a few pick and rolls

Re Russ. Lots of ft attempts tho. It's the 1-10 from three that are a waste.

russ 40-13-11

last 48 hours russ 79-27-22 on 26-70 fg.

deandre jordan - only 5 points but 17 rebounds in first half, most by anyone in a first half this season; also this his 300th consecutive game played

deandre has become pretty good at basketball over the last couple years, kudos

NBA on ESPN ‏@ESPNNBA 1m1 minute ago
Warriors are 35-4 (.897) this season w/ current starters. Only starting 5 w/ better win percentage? 1995-96 Bulls.

westbrook 49-16-10 4th straight trip dub

he has become a hauntingly unchill constellation in the night sky

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_TiX9XUQAAYltp.jpg

ha never noticed the mvp trophy has a babys face

some big games tonight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_TlwMWUsAACc-_.jpg

brow!

brow back

russ becomes the 2nd player ever to record consecutive 40-pt triple doubles, MJ/maravich

insane

dont know how to interpret westbrook numbers, obvi insane, but struggling to hang with 6ers im just...

6ers been kinda competitive for a minute now tho

yeah look theyre scrappy and all but theyre 13-48 and okc was at home IJS

tru tru

http://i.imgur.com/6iKjafC.png

crazy

ha wow

draymond last night: 23-12-5, 3 blocks, 3 steals

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/b_qtqp5usaigy8i-jpg_large.jpeg

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 48s49 seconds ago
Tony Parker is playing in the 989th game of his career, passing David Robinson for 2nd-most in Spurs history (1: Tim Duncan, 1,311) (Elias)

dang thats a lot of miles

30-11-17-4-1 for westbrook last night. 5th triple dub in 6 games.

needs to see a therapist because he is insane

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_1TweXVAAETGjR.png

AD's final line in the pelicans' 2OT loss to the nugs: 36-14-7 with 9 blocks

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 43s44 seconds ago
Reggie Jackson is the 1st player with a 20-20 game and a triple-double in consecutive games since Mark Jackson in January 1997 (via ELIAS)

i guess we have to call that a jackson

harden 50-10-4

25fta lol

ban free throws

bet that was fun to watch :/

ban james harden

ban daryl morey

ban the juiceman until he stops getting half his points at the line, yea I said it

it should be a crime to shoot in the vicinity of 12-27 and score 50

if I were president James Harden would be a criminal

did the game take four hours?

yall harden haters are ridiculous

im not a hater!

just don't enjoy watching someone get to the line THAT much

if harden didn't glee with smarmy satisfaction like a demon child p much every time he managed to sell questionable contact for a bullshit call, it'd be easier to stomach. russ plays to draw questionable contact as well (as do dozens of guys) but he just goes to the line and shoots, there isn't palpable gloating involved in it

*grin with smarmy satisfaction

he should gloat, he's way better at basketball than the people guarding him

harden is a genius

One weird trick to score lots of points in the nba

harden is a genius

― micah, Friday, March 20, 2015 7:39 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, fts are boring but it is pretty fascinating to watch his slowmo game unfold, reminds me of the god paul pierce

elfrid payton of all ppl 22-10-10

that is his 2nd consecutive tripdub!

elfrid the new westbrook

huh guess i just never hear the good news about ol' elfrid payton

he has reached "NBA game time notification" status, although so has flip fucking saunders missing games for personal reasons, it's arguably a low bar

i have not pledged my applegiance

evan turner with the 19-10-12 tripdub

19 missed FGs, 10 missed FTs, and 12 turnovers

Otm

aw ev just wants to play point guard in a way that doesn't really make sense and is done by no one else in basketball.

harden went 21/22 from the line tonight

Josh smith hit 4/5 threes

i hate harden so much, just as a person seems like a bad person

he is definitely a bad man

aww cmon harden seems cool

cool people dont shoot that many free throws

19 missed FGs, 10 missed FTs, and 12 turnovers
--brosario nawson (m bison)

#actually it was 9 of 13 shooting, 1 missed free throw and only two turnovers thank you very much, somebody is a rude gus I guess

harden seems like the guy who hangs out with you when you have weed and never throws down to buy his own but has excuses & a shit-eating grin on his face to accompany them

Harden seems pretty cool but hard to say really. Seems kinda guarded

ya imo harden is p chill, hes just a weird basketball savant operating on the next level, hes like beautiful bird or something

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CA88Z9wVIAAm9oE.png:large

well I guess harden is the god after all, I take it all back

louis williams not shy

Reggie Jackson tripdub - 26-11-10

add stan van to the thibs attacking point guard whisperer club

cousins 39-20

whoa

uh nerlens noel dropped 30 & 14 on deandre and blake

"In his last nine games, Noel averaged 16.9 points, 10.0 boards, 1.8 assists, 1.8 steals and 2.4 blocks on 57.5 percent from the field and 71.4 percent from the line."

guess this kid is legit after all!

http://i.imgur.com/Em8dVD6.png

heh

http://i.imgur.com/qhcx1oj.png

If nerlens ceiling is deandre with a free throw shot that is...not bad at all

he shd be a better more dynamic defender than dre, tho he doesnt have his mass

he is 60% on fts for the year so i wldnt get to psyched abt that just yet, but theres def the outline of a game that works for him emerging

im surprised hes on such an offensive tear tbh hes looked just awful on that end when ive watched him

Yah I watched a handful of 6ers games this year and he looked horrible offensively

60% is not great but they won't be hack a shaqqing him at that %

tru

nerlens being ROY kinda puts a big dent in the "hinkie is a clueless hack" argument that gained steam circa the all star break

ya plus hes got another couple players on the shelf who will prob be good too

management shd def be shamed into not making their players attend ted talks and participate in lame biz-motivation bs tho, that part i support

that is dumb but how much dumber is it than taking an entire team to go see "300" or whatever

its dumber because 300 is sweet

bowling seems to be effective, certainly more so than ted talks

someone should also consider hiding cash in the ceiling, surprised doc hasn't done that for this years clips (or maybe he has & we just don't know about it)

nerlens being ROY kinda puts a big dent in the "hinkie is a clueless hack" argument that gained steam circa the all star break

No it doesn't. He took chalk with that pick.

Matt Millen picked Calvin Johnson.

He still has time but Ainge and Morey would have found more useful rotation players by this point.

It's nagl that he keeps ending up with the guys Morey gave up on- smith, Covington, Canaan.

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 48s48 seconds ago
There were no points scored between either team the last 3:56 of the game between the Cavaliers and 76ers. The Cavs held on to win 87-86.

Haha fun

korver scored 11 points in 65 seconds

turner with his 3rd tripdub of the year (and his career), 13-11-12

31-11-11 on 10 of 32 shooting for westbrook, enes kanter put up 30 & 16.

demarcus with a powerful 24-21-10-3-6

harden 51-8-6-3, 16-25 fg, 8-9 3pt, 11-13 ft.

hot damn thats a statline

No love for Chris Paul's 41-17 with 1 to and 10-10 ft?

the game ended around 1am but yeah godly performance

with the caveat that i don't exactly understand game score, CP3's game last night was the second-best of the season by that measure, behind the kyrie/spurs game

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=2015&year_max=2015&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=game_score&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

he also hit a guy in the nuts so how much is it really worth celebrating

-_-

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr08/5/11/enhanced-6437-1399303097-14.jpg

lol oops

Baxter Holmes ‏@BaxterHolmes 10m10 minutes ago
LAL has 82.8% chance of keeping top-5 protected 1st-round pick if they finish w/ NBA’s 4th-worst record.

It falls to 55.4% if they’re 5th.

Evan Turner joined Havlicek, Russell, Cousy, Bird, A.Walker, Rondo & Pierce as only @Celtics to record 3+ triple doubles in the same season

clips have the two best midrange shooters in the game http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?PerMode=Totals&DistanceRange=By%20Zone&sort=Mid-Range%20FG%20PCT&dir=1&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star&CF=Mid-Range%20FGA*GE*100

NBA on ESPN ‏@ESPNNBA 13s14 seconds ago
Boogie w/ back-to-back triple-doubles (2nd of season, 3rd of career). 1st Kings player since Chris Webber to do so.

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 19s20 seconds ago
Spurs "Big 3" of Duncan/Parker/Ginobili played a combined 64 minutes Friday and each scored exactly 4 pts.

Spurs beat Denver by 30.

kawhi has been playing so good btw

His post game is amazing rn

SportsNation ‏@SportsNation 3m3 minutes ago
J.R. Smith set an NBA record for most 3-pointers in a game without taking a 2-point shot (17).

btw the 17 refers to attempts, not makes. i saw that on twitter and gasped

poorly phrased for sure

Mike Prada ‏@MikePradaSBN 3m3 minutes ago
Mavs’ off eft with Rondo + four other starters: 103

Mavs’ off eff with Harris + four other starters: 118.4

:(

isaiah with 34-3-6 on 10-17 shooting in 29 mins

spurs won 9 in a row by 12+

harden has passed curry in RPM

kawhi is 3rd :)

isaiah with 34-3-6 on 10-17 shooting in 29 mins

― slothroprhymes, Thursday, April 9, 2015 1:31 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why suns whyyyyyy

seriously do not understand them dumping him makes zero sense

he can't be the answer at point guard long-term on a contending team. they figured knight would be an upgrade, but with thomas on that favorable a contract and about to be freed up (with dragic leaving), they should have just waited a little longer.

thomas is very fun but i can understand why ppl dont like playing w him hes a crazy chucker who doesnt play D

everyone hated him, it's not that hard to understand

the celtics have beaten like 2 good teams in the entirety of their isiah thomas led resurgence, the east is just very very bad

that's not a good enough excuse tho for panic trading him for spare parts xp

also you can't have two starting guards who are like 6 feet tall

hearing that teammates really liked him here in PHX

they coulda still brought him off the bench

it seems to me like they basically signed him because the price was extremely low and he just didn't fit culturally or with the team

given what he got in free agency it just doesn't seem like the league values him very highly

wrt to what they got in the trade

it was a good move for the celtics, i don't think the fate of the suns hinges much on it though

the league values him incorrectly, which is why you don't trade him, and why Ainge is probably the best in the business

isaiah is more disciplined than a true chucker to my eye but he's landed in the perfect situation where his teammates were so desperate for a primary scoring option they actually get mad sometimes when he passes.

Thomas didn't fit with their culture because Goran is a whiny dickhead, afaict

yeah trading goran and IT was a bit weird but i guess they were done w the three point guard experiment

so keep two of them!

I guess it just comes down to me not buying the Brandon Knight thing at all

Zeke + Lakers pick>>>>Brandon fucking Knight

their problem was that they had to trade dragic but thomas/bledsoe does not work as a starting backcourt. and it seems like thomas has demonstrated that he can't really come off the bench.

they boxed themselves in by signing him in the first place

Thomas has demonstrated that he's awesome coming off the bench!

the whole thing is a good example of how treating sports like economics does not always work out

the thomas signing made sense financially and everyone at the time was like "hey good price! why not?"

well... we saw why not

did we?

because it made goran mad?

well it clearly didn't work!

it was a bad calculation on the suns' part, clearly

seeing as how neither thomas nor dragic play on the team anymore

their problem was that they had to trade dragic but thomas/bledsoe does not work as a starting backcourt. and it seems like thomas has demonstrated that he can't really come off the bench.

they boxed themselves in by signing him in the first place

― J0rdan S., Thursday, April 9, 2015 5:54 PM (1 minute ago)

no!

after the goran trade their playoff push for the season was done. if the celtics deal was all they could have gotten for him on short notice, they should have just waited!

you're assuming an alternate reality where the suns showcase isaiah thomas for the sole purpose of his trade value

I think a bad calculation would be to cater all of their free agency moves around Goran's ego

J0rdan S.
Posted: April 9, 2015 at 5:54:39 PM
their problem was that they had to trade dragic but thomas/bledsoe does not work as a starting backcourt. and it seems like thomas has demonstrated that he can't really come off the bench.

celtics bring him off the bench

Thomas didn't hurt them on the court, if he made other players (one player) sad then that's something we can't really quantify and imo shouldn't care about

you're assuming an alternate reality where the suns showcase isaiah thomas for the sole purpose of his trade value

― J0rdan S., Thursday, April 9, 2015 6:02 PM (3 minutes ago)

no, they "showcase" him because he's now the second best guard on the roster and they aren't making the playoffs anyway. this isn't rocket science

i mean look at the result of the deal they made. you're happy if you're the suns now?

well no one thinks the suns got fair value for thomas -- including, i would imagine, the suns. they traded dragic first, so if the theory is that he made only dragic mad then one would expect that they would have kept thomas, because the problem of those two guys coexisting would have been solved.

but that didn't happen. so what was it?

a bad trade?

I mean shit if you just want to dump Zeke don't throw in the fucking Lakers pick

jordan you sound like harden trade defenders right now

i'm not defending the trade.

i'm just trying to understand it, and perhaps explain it, from the suns' perspective.

well their gm came out publicly and called both dragic and thomas selfish so someone in phx beyond dragic didn't like him

that said their entire chemistry was fucked this year, in watching thomas in boston i don't find him to be any more selfish than he's supposed to be in his role

it seems like, at least in this stage of his career, isaiah thomas works in a certain situation, which is "you're the only good offensive player on the team". the suns, who have at least two competent offensive players, didn't have that situation. should they have altered their team to fit around isaiah thomas? maybe. i would argue not.

the trade was bad but they shouldn't have signed him in the first place

kevin is presenting an alternate reality where isaiah thomas plays like he has in boston, but in phoenix, and his trade value is higher than it was now

i don't think that actually would have been possible, partly because the celtics can appear to be good while not actually being good

i disagree w/"only good offensive player" as the one situation, he should have been able to come off the bench and be the primary focus of the second-unit offense without people getting pissed off

ya microwave/sometime closer is the perfect role for him

maybe the suns just h8d him idk they def got hosed tho

it's not like his phx numbers were bad, his shooting percentages were actually better than in boston but he's shooting a little more now and getting to the line a little more