THE 2017 NBA 'OFFS™

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predix?

GSW over POR in 4
LAC over UTA in 6
HOU over OKC in 5
SAS over MEM in 4

BOS over CHI in 5
ATL over WAS in 6
TOR over MIL in 5
CLE over IND in 5

not super excited about any of these match ups except HOU/OKC. SAS/MEM, TOR/MIL, and ATL/WAS will vie for most NBATV coverage

you arent into that LAC UJ series? feels like thats a coinflip

yes that one too

Apparently Tony Allen is out indefinitely w a calf injury. Spurs in 4 otm.

GSW POR dubs in 5
LAC UTA lac in 7
HOU OKC hou in 5
SAS MEM spurs in 4

BOS CHI bos in 6
ATL WAS wash in 6
TOR MIL toronto in 7
CLE IND cleve in 5

feeling the milwaukee upset in my bones right now

just 4 kicks i checked our preseason predix thread. i think everyone had detroit and charlotte making the east offs (no one had mil or chi), and almost everyone had minn instead of mem in the west. i would have hit 4 of my 5 over/under picks.

congrats to sloth for picking the 8 west playoff teams (though he wasn't close on the seeding).

iirc i was right about rockets and jazz being real teams this year but whiffed on most of the other differences from last year

i guess i was also right about minn not being real, not sure what ppl were thinking there. i had nuggets and pels as the ascendant west teams, alas

i think my best move was calling that the wizards would be good, my worst move was thinking indiana would be good. idk where the hell i got that from.

Guess we overrated Teague and Thad Young.

GSW v POR warriors 4
LAC v UTA jazz 6 (end of clippers as we've known them)
HOU v OKC rockets 5
SAS v MEM spurs 6

BOS v CHI celtics 6
WAS v ATL wizards 7
TOR v MIL raptors 6
CLE v IND cavaliers 6

I'm thinking the west will see mostly walkovers, with the exception of Clips v Jazz.

GSW over POR in 4
LAC over UTA in 7
HOU over OKC in 5
SAS over MEM in 4

I'm thinking the east will provide just a little more 1st round drama.

BOS over CHI in 5
ATL over WAS in 7
TOR over MIL in 6
CLE over IND in 5

But mostly I'm thinking I'm not so great at this prediction stuff.

Atlanta
Washington
7:00 PM NBATV

Ah yes there it is. Hawks playing a series no one will watch on NBA tv- it's officially spring!

GSW v POR warriors 4 sorry clay
LAC v UTA jazz 7- jazz r hungry & dare I say it...better coached? Ready for doc on NBA tv next year
HOU v OKC rockets 6 but Russ will put up 40-15-15 at least once
SAS v MEM spurs 4

BOS v CHI celtics 5
WAS v ATL wizards 5
TOR v MIL raptors 5 but would not be surprised if bucks push this to 6 or 7
CLE v IND cavaliers 4 pg openly talks about going to la before it ends. Don't mess w first round lebron

congrats to sloth for picking the 8 west playoff teams (though he wasn't close on the seeding).

― call all destroyer, Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:35 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol my gawd didn't i say the grizz would be 4th if healthy

Also I'm pretty sure the internet was big when Derrick Rose got MVP for whatever reasons that happened

Sry wrong thread

warriors in 4
spurs in 4
rockets in 5
clips in 7

celtics in 5
cavs in 4
wiz in 5
bucks in 7

dubs 4
spurs 4
rockets 6
clips 6

celts 6
cavs 5
toronto 6
wiz 7

dubs over clips 5
spurs over rox 6

celts beat wiz 6
cavs beat tor 5

dubs over spurs 6
cavs over celts 6

dubs over cavs 5

^ v plausible bracket

that's like straight chalk tho isn't it?

I feel like the cavs won't make the finals

i still think they will but it will be much more challenging than in the past couple years

i dont believe in upsets in the offs.

playoffs bron will emerge from his cocoon

injuries can foster upsets and 5s can beat 4s w/o it being an upset. but with a 7 game series, the 1-8, 2-7, and 3-6 usually go according to form.

true, but for me, clips v jazz is a unique case bc of all the clips' injuries during the season. i think theyre going to beat the jazz handily. (would like to be proven wrong tho). that wizards/atl series im less confident in my pick bc atl has some dece playoff experience and also defense is at a premium? but wall is the best player in this series.

The cavs feel like robin givens era mike Tyson looking for their buster Douglas

Lol

KLove looks bad in this Game 1. Wanders around a bit. Stands on his spot waiting for a pass. Doesn't get the ball out of his hands fast enough. Bad.

jr has also been pretty ineffective

the bron james does it again

pacers offense same as it ever was

^ macmillan's feet firmly planted in 2002

I'm annoyed by that play where they pacers choked away the 5 on 4 off the Lebron flop

Oh my that Giannis dunk

Yes otm xp! Just finished why didn't they just GO

lance looked good!

I think scouts are gonna regret talking themselves out of Thon Maker

Toronto 1-10 all time in game 1s. Incredible stat.

i'm a bucks fan now

I think Giannis could never shoot a shot outside 15 feet the rest of his career and get multiple MVPs

they were like 17-7 or something after middleton came back. real team

good to see playoffs lowry is back

lol so true

i really almost picked that as an upset i'm mad i didn't now

rip spurs

n/m

lowry has the lowest playoff fg% of all time

Did Lowry ever really look like he was back or is he maybe playing hurt here

People talk about ugly jump shots but Kawhi's is the unlikeliest good shot to me. It looks like he's pulling the string 80% of the time.

feels like griz havent scored since half time

everyone see how my mans wrecked on em tonight? <3333

uh gobert out with a knee injury first possession

it does not look good

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

i think the jazz announcer is gonna cry

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Jazz say Rudy Gobert has a left knee sprain and won't return to Game 1

quinn snyder sounds like a stoner or a surfer dude or something

jazz looking like the spurs damn

sick sequence from cp3

iso joe hitting game winners in the 16-17 playoffs is pretty wild

Jazzzzzzz. Lowry and B Griffin are bad at playoffs.

Gobert has a hyperextension and a bone bruise, I imagine he will be taking a lot of Advil and playing at some point in the series

MRI done already?

Oh just read it. I dunno if he comes back this series tbf. Would be tough to

I don't know what's going on out there, it looks like Nurkic is gonna play on a broken leg

that seems wise, portland def has a chance at that series if he plays

oh wait are they still playing the warriors, if so maybe sit the 280 lb guy with the broken leg

Constantly jumping up and down on a broken leg is contra-indicated to the best of my knowledge.

remember when k3v was questioning why people liked john wall

oh you

Someone get Greg Anthony a Neti pot

There are bones in your leg that aren't weight bearing. Ok.

fibula just kind of chills there iirc

Van Gundy sold on CJ mccollum's defense

CJ is lighting up everyone

he is doing v good jeez

They've tried everyone on him

easter is a holiday abt the day cj was good

i need to hear this ronnie lott finger story

He tore a ligament or something in his pinky finger and the rehab was long so he just had them cut off the tip instead

Point Vonleh

Huuuuuge for Portland that GSW didn't get momentum from the draymond block there

this game is fun

dubs also had a bad break wrt momentum when that steph 4 pt play was called a moving screen on zaza

Quin Snyder wouldn't officially rule Gobert out for Game 2, did say "it didn't look good when he was laying on the court last night"

Is Napier good now

he played like a real dude the games when pdx sat everyone but I don't know how seriously to take that

dray has been unreal on d this entire game

That last steal by dray was initiated by a blatant shove.

dray for mvp

That was a bad idea by Lillard

draymond: flexing is cool
Me: no

i wonder what it is like for dubs fans to experience peak draymond, i bet it is exciting and fun

do the flex when he flexes

i wish i could enjoy anything as much as draymond being successful at basketball

draymond is one of the best NBA characters in years, i love him deeply

Can confirm it is fun

there should have been a three year moratorium on draymond slander after he put up 32-15-9 in an nba finals game 7 where his team scored 89 points

may not have been a game 7 tho without... you know

Give and take with dray

he is your manu

Mixed with a little Bruce Bowen

hey now *kicks ur nuts*

Maybe I'm wrong but Isaiah appears to be a bit teary eyed in warmups

Man what a weird difficult situation

Yeah man tough stuff can't believe he's playing

wade running out of juice and getting jammed by the rim

They don't have enough angles for this call?

You know why not just let us have the replay center feed and hear their decision

thunder wearing red in houston is confusing as heck

i wonder what it is like for dubs fans to experience peak draymond, i bet it is exciting and fun

― nice cage (m bison), Sunday, April 16, 2017 5:59 PM (three hours ago

i don't get why ILH hates NBA heels so much. did you all hate DX in the WWE too?

wait did u think i was being sarcastic? *crosses arms above crotch repeatedly*

no i got that you were srs, i was subtweeting

i mostly just find the flexing to be completely corny. i think we did this last playoffs tho

I think I would be good friends with Patrick Beverley.

okc has a growing list of dudes who cannot be switched onto harden

game looking over

i love how the rockets just run their stuff with the same demeanor and figure that it will work out eventually.

that beverly to capella oop was pr sick

tremendous grame from pat bev; good for him

harden is so unbelievably good

okc not playing their best tonight

i know it's just one game but i feel like this game and result pretty well encapsulates the differences between harden and westbrook's games and why harden should be higher on the mvp ladder

yeah i would really like rwb to take the myp b/c hes not such a lamentable flopper but i'm finding it more difficult to justify

true or false: this series should be considered by mvp voters (and the sas v mem one, too)

each mvp voter gets to make that determination on their own. are the ballots already in?

yeah ballots are in before the postseason starts

they're gonna have a special awards show which could be a disaster

partic bc all the winners will surely leak out by may

lol this kid
https://twitter.com/HerewegoJoe/status/853779285110386688

genius broadcast crew

Cavs and Spurs both win by >15 tonight? think so.

Probably

The Cavs (other than bron and kyrie) would be hard pressed to look worse than they did in Game 1. But it is not established yet they can look any better. The spurs put so much weight on kawhi it's a damn good thing for them he's so consistent.

Miles at the 4 is not working

uh the grizzlies are v bad

also tony parker going into playoff mode, surprised to see that he still has it

man what has been happening to the Cavs in the 4th quarter lately

that shumpert flop on that inbound play was so egregious. that cle inbound play to get Kyrie that open layup was perfection, sealed it.

grizz need to continue to hoist away

well they tried...

KAWHI

The incremental increase of the Kawhi career high in scoring

37-11

19-19 from the stripe

grizz have so much heart, the talent just isnt there

too bad tony allen is injured, coulda been more competitive

yeah that. also wonder what they would look like with a healthy version of their big (other) offseason purchase

Popovich refusing to discuss strategy is really absurd considering his attitude towards answering softball questions

leave dad alone, he's had a rough day

spurs got close but neither cavs or spurs won by >15. win is a win or sign of trouble to come in later rounds? my guess is the latter.

fizdale going in on the refs

damn thats gonna be 100k AT LEAST

lmao that was classic

https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/854191540486328320

A+ rant wow

take that for data!

25-10-7-4-4 for bron tonight

Would buy fizdale mixtape, hot fire

Kawhi has just been annihilation incarnate in this series though, poor grizz

honestly that's just a well-executed rant, props to fitz

https://mobile.twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/854364480917995520

this is utter lunacy...but i love it

Rodman>Draymond.

was sorta thinking the exact same thought

i mean the whole list is silly, how do you really justify excluding MJ and lebron lol

of course but draymond seems the most out there pick even in that company

Kinda bullshit that they're gonna put Fizdale's rant on NBA TV's twitter, and then fine him for the same rant

I can see excluding MJ and Lebron but the team as constructed there makes no sense. There's no spacing for Hakeem, too many guys who need to be on the post.

i can't see excluding lebron from that exercise

https://mobile.twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/854364480917995520

this is utter lunacy...but i love it

― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:29 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

coach nick clearly flying off the rails #whynot

Looking like no KD, Livingston or M Barnes for tomorrows game.

:(

i can't see excluding lebron from that exercise

Larry Bird might be a more ideal fit in an ideal starting 5. I would probably have both of them tho.

I'm partial to the arguments for Rodman being in the absolute best 5 because he'd never need to shoot with 4 superstars

yeah i think rodman is a good pick

really you could just upgrade the point and center on that bulls team and call it a day

i do not like the fury the bulls r playing with, calm down plz

k3vin k.
Posted: April 16, 2017 at 6:42:02 PM
i wonder what it is like for dubs fans to experience peak draymond, i bet it is exciting and fun

― nice cage (m bison), Sunday, April 16, 2017 5:59 PM (three hours ago

i don't get why ILH hates NBA heels so much. did you all hate DX in the WWE too?

listen dray is not a heal, heals make the competition lose their composure, dray makes himself lose his composure

hes his own heal, he really gets inside his own head lol

smart doin smart type stuff

celtics tilting

this is bad

watching the raptors in the playoffs remains anthropologically fascinating!

the one problem the raptors have in this series is that the bucks have the two best players

honestly that's just a well-executed rant, props to fitz

― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:26 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

finally watched this and strongly agree; classic rant

the one problem the bucks have in this series is that their second best guard is apparently matthew dellavadova

Dellevedova has missed some clowny wide open looks

seems like everyone's worst fears about the celtics are getting realized

the level of difficulty for the raptors to make a single basket in the playoffs is just unbelievable

casey continues to plumb the depths of incompetence

rip boston celtics 2017

Looking forward to dubs bulls finals

^came here to post xp

they showed a stat in the first game, average wingspan of bucks starters was like 7 feet

I bet pail george would have been able to win these two games for the keltics

Paul Viktor Louis Zipser

or jimmy butler xp

dang at an easter thing the other day i watched some ball with a 10 year old and i told him i thought the bulls had a tiny chance in this series and he was all NO, THE CELTICS ARE MY FAVORITE TEAM AND THEY WILL PLAY THE WARRIORS IN THE FINALS and now i feel pr bad for that kid

he needs to know the heartache of losing

next time you see that kid you have to hand shape a coffin around him and pretend bury him

assuming the C's don't storm back.

lol

sick spin move from blake

wtf happened to the Celtics?

how you gonna let rondo stunt on you like this.

Cp not
Gonna lose this one

<3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XcrOwQgFqI

Westbrook's rebounding stat padding really is something

Atlanta
Washington
7:00 PM NBATV

Ah yes there it is. Hawks playing a series no one will watch on NBA tv- it's officially spring!

― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, April 14, 2017 7:42 AM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just to fill yall in jose calderon and brandon jennings were matched up during key minutes of this game

haha

I watched the 4th

I guess we're not gonna get playoff Dwight huh

adams has 5 fouls and the rockets are just going to town

russ is so drama

rwb basically played the thunder out of this game

kinda thing someone who is not the mvp would do

it is fun to watch the maniac clank all these ridiculous hoists

he is a truly ridiculous player in so many ways

Harden like 2 for 13 in the 4th so far

harden 17 fgas 35 pts
russ 43 fgas 51 pts

shoutout to sweet lou williams, let it never be said again that your shit doesn't work in the playoffs.

non-shout to mike d'antoni, whose team was unprepared to break a full-court press and get the ball over in 8 seconds.

only 43 field goals attempted cmon russ wheres yr heart

his game tonight reminded me of when i used to play 2k and decide before the game started that i would be getting 50 pts with brandon roy in this game and i would play accordingly

I don't know if Vonleh can catch lobs but that play is there for them if they want it

And now they do it when Zaza is on the bench sigh

omg what is dray even arguing here jeez bro

this gsw-port game is going to be painful, but I will watch it regardless

This is a weird game

chuck going on about how neither of these teams are good defensively when gsw were second in defensive efficiency and prob have the dpoy on the floor is basically chuck in a nutshell

it's such an embarrassing show

lol myers leonard, gangster

This is borderline cruel.

If only they had KD

If only they had KD

well, the blazers did have their chance at KD, but went with Oden instead

the positive of a blowout like this is maybe it dissuades the brass from bringing nurkic back for a shot at one dumb win

https://streamable.com/08s6v

i wouldn't say "misses" is exactly the right word there...

he's def not looking. but hey he got the highest scoring triple double in playoff history!

mmm that is some bad bball

love how this pops up in my tl every couple weeks

https://twitter.com/Money23Green/status/63449644105072640

lol otm

Chicago is one of the best offensive-rebounding teams. Boston is one of the worst defensive-rebounding teams. And it became clear how much this mismatch would matter when the Bulls stole Game 1 by snagging 45.5% of their missed shots.

That rate wasn’t merely better than the Bulls’ average. It was their highest offensive-rebounding percentage of the entire season.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-nbas-rebound-relationship-with-rebounds-1492708645

the hawks were always one of the worst defensive rebounding teams when horford was at the 5.

hmm

heez what was up with dwight last night? his locker room interview was bad too, "i dont know...." to every question.

prob the fact that he sat so long in favor of mike muscala. the dudes toast

i haven't followed his career as closely as others but it looks like his body just doesn't do what it used to and it's exposing a lot of bad habits.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/ATL.html

those dwight and bazemore contracts are looking more and more horrendous by the minute

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C938RYbUMAAzVu4.jpg:large

lolclippers

dwight was good this year!

its true, him not playing this series is prob more of a matchup thing, not that its helping

he just gets so depressed :/

there were some clips in a ringer article where he was moving like a half-dead person

dwight was good this year!

― k3vin k., Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i had his back all year but this looks bad

crazy thing about russ last night is he was actually +11

he was good through 3Q

there were some clips in a ringer article where he was moving like a half-dead person

Once every 8 games or so he'd have a game where he just had nothing and people ran circles around him, something which seems to happen to people with bad backs

There was one game I watched, I think vs the pistons, where I thought he was totally cooked

javale's PER is 51 thru 2 games lol

Loving this javale season obv

Can't think of many players who need "a situation" more than Lance

that Myles dunk was niiiice

This is a good game of basketball

FEAR THE DEER!!!!!

Raptors smh

What a scam they are

32-12 after 1q

Lannnncccce

Now 46-17, loool

unreal

watching the raptors in the playoffs remains anthropologically fascinating!

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:14 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the one problem the raptors have in this series is that the bucks have the two best players

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:24 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Forgot to otm this post before

meanwhile the pacers are falling apart on O

Bron is Bronning

30 points total in the 1st half for the raps...

I think Teague would help them actually run plays here

So many incredible things have happened in this game

for real

lebronimo smash then the Teague and 1 three!

its absolutely wild to me how many wide open layups certain teams get out of udder the basket out of bounds plays.

Teams that are good at it are REALLY good at it. They used to say that a Doug Collins coached team would never lose if the game was just inbounds plays.

Man I forgot about playoff Bron

Monta kind of cost them the game huh

monta legit one of the dumbest players of all time

PG can't get a call

wow what a comeback / meltdown

Myles Turner's slow release may have contributed to some choking tonight on those threes

he's looked really skiddish. doesn't seem ready for the big lights. had a bad TO a couple mins back.

Whenever this happens I think about the game where the Twolves led by 25 and lost by 25

was that this year?

No it was a long time ago I think this was it http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199912110MIN.html

oh nice. ahhh those late 90s warriors rosters were something else

I like Jamychal Green

me 2

this is an entertaining game believe it or not

playoffs aside but this is a fun read/listen: http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents19191896/show-nba-show

respect to the grindhouse tonight

totally, classic zbo game

i just cant get over how bad the spurs offense is without kawhi

that's why Zach Lowe said he was the MVP

in case and tbh regardless if the celtics die, go grizz

i admire their pluck, but fuck em if they think theyre getting out of the first round

watching the bucks game now and its curious how terrible the raps defense is

raps also have a habit of starting their play with 10 left on the clock so by the time they find an open man theres like 1s left

playoffs bron will emerge from his cocoon

― nice cage (m bison), Friday, April 14, 2017 4:29 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't mess w first round lebron

― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, April 14, 2017 9:53 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ilh otm

Raptors are uniquely fragile in the playoffs but I have to say I think the bucks are a tough draw, they're just so big and weird and Middleton is really good so that's two dynamite perimeter guys to worry about right off the bat. Casey also has a storied tradition of duffing it in the 'offs and j Kidd is (ugh) kind of a good coach?

cavs/bron turning that around last night was pretty cool

bucks are def a different team with middleton than the one that went .500 on the season

recap of last night's game:

http://i.imgur.com/vQhzsBH.gifv

https://twitter.com/trem2303/status/853758497569329152

important: is there a correlation between the red panda dropping bowls/not dropping bowls and the home team winning/losing

STATS HEADS i need you

haha

Amir Johnson benched for... Gerald Green!

Celtics 4 straight confirmed

Gerald Green eating chicken fingers right now apparently

9 and a half fingers maybe

ayooo

how much you think bron got paid by apple music or whatever label to give his review of Kendricks new album during his presser last night?

when you're breaking the glass containing gerald green you know things are really going in the wrong direction

Do you guys remember rookie summer league Gerald

Marcus Smart just passed up a wide open three to attempt a laser pass to a streaking jerebko through 3 defenders

lol adam schefter is working sideline for this game for fun i guess?

Roberson's three point shot is uniquely hideous. I'm not sure the ball rotates

interesting how hill guards redick

hayward's been sick

Derrick Favors looks like he is 45 years old

paul pierce guarding joe johnson is not exactly my idea of a prime playoff matchup

clips look lost on defense

Taj Gibson called for the technical that draymond never gets

Roberson playing an amazing game here

after one quarter: clippers 21, gordon hayward 21

Are the Clippers going to lose two playoff games to a favors/Diaw center rotation

that cameron payne trade remains inexplicable

Blake griffin in the locker room with a toe injury

Derrick Favors changing ends of the court is like when Mario runs on an ice level

Blake out for the game with a bruised toe which sounds ominous to me

Derrick Favors changing ends of the court is like when Mario runs on an ice level

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, April 21, 2017 11:42 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

hahaha

lol matt

reminder that cp3 is still a top 5 player btw

omfg hayward is basically 2010 lebron in this game

reminder that cp3 is still a top 5 player btw

― k3vin k., Friday, April 21, 2017 11:57 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark

like, in this series?

uh in the league bud check his stats

hayward is fucking unconscious

Hayward the wholesome juiceman

yeah they showed a side by side of him now vs in college and my eyebrows raised a little

i would confidently say that chris paul is a top 5 PG

Hayward was always an elite athlete I guess but he's just so fucking swole

Man this game ending is gonna be super lame now

jordan i can't tell if you're trolling me or

I would say CP3 is 8ish

maybe call a timeout next time dummies

I'm too worn out to calculate the percentages of what they did there

It was a pretty good look

players that are definitely better than chris paul right now

harden
lebron
durant
curry
???

oh kawhi

ok top 8 without question

cp3 is not definitely better than anthony davis, giannis, john wall, jimmy butler

can you give me one metric where john wall rates ahead of cp3?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=John+Wall&player_id1_select=John+Wall&y1=2017&player_id1=walljo01&player_id2_hint=Chris+Paul&player_id2_select=Chris+Paul&y2=2017&player_id2=paulch01

i guess his assist percentage was 0.1% higher

how is paul pierce on the floor right now

cp3 is reading this thread

lol i was just gonna say that!

anyway, john wall rates better than him as a defender, is as elite at stealing as cp3 and is also an elite shot blocker for a guard. john wall also sees the floor as well as any PG in the league imo. cp3 is one of the most consistent jump shooters in the league and john wall obv doesn't have that, but wall is also elite in transition. again, i'm just saying cp3's not *definitely* better than him.

nurkic is better than cp3

i wouldn't go that far yet

to me these players are definitely better than cp3

lebron
harden
russ
kawhi
durant
brow

cp3 is at best the 7th best player in the league

not a great loss by the jazz...

well there's 9 seconds left and it is the clippers..

i think saying russ is a better player than cp3 is utter lunacy btw but we'll pick up this debate another time

needless to say, that dial shot was not even close to being a shooting foul

diaw

no. nba continuation is ridiculous enough as it is

No curry on j0's list :(

Is jingles supposed to be a good defender why was he checking cp the whole 4th?

He's a good defender yeah

That was a top 5 cp game

@johnschuhmann: w/ no Griffin in the 2nd half, Chris Paul had a beyond-Russ usage rate of 48%, w/ a TS% of 68% & 1 TO. Not bad. https://t.co/kvpn3z7T5c

griffin out for the rest of the playoffs with a toe injury. what a joke man

lolclippers

Wow. How. A toe? How does a toe get injured unless stepped on?

he was probably juicing between the toes

how many playoffs has it been now where one of the clips starters gets injured?

No curry on j0's list :(

whoops. so 8th best.

curry is bad now

Matt Armstrong
Posted: April 21, 2017 at 3:43:38 PM
Amir Johnson benched for... Gerald Green!

worked out ok

didt see the game but judging from the box score they played 5 out all game

interesting considering theyre getting killed on the boards but its not like their bigs rebound anyway

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nba-incident-patrick-beverley-fan/story?id=46957125

not positive what this is about but bev ran recklessly (and imo intentionally) into the front row of fans immediately after fouling out last night -- he tried to play it off like he couldn't stop his momentum but it looked pretty intentional to me. pretty despicable move imo

Something we weird about that but they didn't show a replay last night

more chris paul facts

had his best rebounding season
had his best ts% season by far
9th in PER
3rd in WS/48
3rd in box plus-minus
1st in real plus minus

There's no reason why Lowry should be bad in the playoffs

i'm not usually the type of person to believe in this stuff but lowry has always been a volatile/heady guy, maybe he just crumbles under pressure

Giannis' jumper has looked pretty great this series. Like it seems to have improved just from looking at the form and release. Not aiming it.

Not pretty great but greatly improved

Tony Snell free agency is gonna be weird because he shoots well but so rarely.

if bev wanted to intentionally run into the guy i'm not sure he would do it so the back of his head was in the vicinity of the guy's knees.

Yah saw the clip and didn't see anything weird

players should be able to beat up fans at some point

wow https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/855905976888774657

it looks like the fan issue involves a different fan than i'm talking about -- this apparently happened in the first half whereas the interaction i described happened after he fouled out

damn wall

tony...parker...is keeping this team in the game right now???

i'll say this, i have immense respect for fizdale to take this talent-shallow grizzlies team and play like this. they are UP.

also just having a winning tradition with some recency means you maybe don't get punked in round 1 at home.

memphis fans complaining loudly after every non call is...droll

Whoa kawhi just straight disrupting shit here

jesus kawhi

kung fu kawhi

conley's floater game is crazy

well while we have some time here let's discuss whether chris paul could ever do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kzcWTS50I

well that was a game

Wow great game

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

!!!

kawhi was amazing. parker was v good. rest of that team? nah.

damn i was on the road, go grizz

man aldridge with an extremely quiet 42 mins

a good argument for kawhi as MVP is that the grizz have 2 of the 3 best players in this series and are considered massive underdogs

Dunno if this held but as of late in the game Manu had not made a shot in the series and kawhi had not missed a free throw in the series

minus kawhi's 7-10 from 3, spurs were 2-20 as a team. a lot of open looks clanked.

LMA has seemed absent all series

that trend held. manu 0-5. kawhi 8-8 from FT.

lamarcus has been an important defender, he mostly contained z-bo and other than the game winner, we kept marc gasol in check, too. but he's been neutralized offensively in this series.

*he kept

so basically what im saying is im ready to trade him and get chris paul next year

Napier getting first quarter minutes ain't the best look for a playoff team

Blazers are a playoff team by the grace of god only.

"Jose Cuervo - tomorrow is overrated"

jordan do not make cp3 vs john wall our next subtweet beef

i think the dubs might be better

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-Epx3aUIAApHYf.jpg

didn't realize blazer fans could be so twisted

a good argument for kawhi as MVP is that the grizz have 2 of the 3 best players in this series and are considered massive underdogs

I found their success all season to be amazing. It's not quite at the level of boobie Gibson era lebron supporting casts but it's in that bottom tier of 60ish win teams for sure

I missed the game did pop get outcoached again and then refuse to answer questions about it

i wouldnt describe this game as him getting outcoached. they made adjustments from game 3 and contained the memphis bigs pretty well. spurs just missed a shitload of threes, plain and simple.

What happened to Danny Green

Last two games delivered .

Javale unlocks the warriors O for a couple stretches a night, they play w so much joy w him on the floor.

Nurkic should not have been playing

for the series
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-E-_t0UAAAomSK.jpg:large

McClaw tonight: 11 pts, 5 rebs, 5 asts, 3 stls, 1 blk

Nurkic should not have been playing

I saw a little bit and he seemed to be moving gingerly...

it was extremely dumb to play him and he shouldn't have been out there

_a good argument for kawhi as MVP is that the grizz have 2 of the 3 best players in this series and are considered massive underdogs_

I found their success all season to be amazing. It's not quite at the level of boobie Gibson era lebron supporting casts but it's in that bottom tier of 60ish win teams for sure

i agree totally. the spurs roster is almost shocking in places. i was a kawhi skeptic back in the day but nothing about the 16-17 spurs says elite team to me except him.

LMA is trash glad bison finally seeing it

this kerr thing sounds not good :(
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/22/steve-kerr-not-kevin-durant-is-warriors-biggest-health-concern/

I saw a little bit and he seemed to be moving gingerly...

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, April 23, 2017 12:19 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was extremely dumb to play him and he shouldn't have been out there

― Clay, Sunday, April 23, 2017 12:25 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it was hard to watch. apprently post game he said it felt worse and worse as the game went on.

man, john wall has been pretty great this series. it's a shame chris paul, one of the best playoff players of all time, is outshining him with his superior play because otherwise he'd be getting some more recognition :/

(that behind the back dunk was legit one of the sickest things i've ever seen tbf)

i've mentioned it elsewhere but i've had a variety of the spinal leak that kerr was suffering from prior (and appears to be being laid low with now) and that shit is relentlessly excruciating. hope he gets past it.

I agree Nurkic should not have been played, but Javale would not be +51 for the series if the blazers had a healthy Nurkic available for 35 min/game.

oh, and poor Evan Turner still hasn't discovered what it is that a) would help and b) he has the talent to do. last night he repeatedly dribbled into the key, got swarmed, couldn't pass the ball or get an open shot, and put up an awkward fall-away that was blocked or else he just turned the ball over.

this is one of those good bad games

Has there ever been another wing player who shot free throws as badly as Roberson?

i love when a player is so bad that the tv guys feel bad so they compliment him

his ft form is like bro first of all try not shooting a rainbow lol

i want okc to win this game the series shd go 7

The refs are losing their minds a little

bruce bowen was weirdly terrible at FTs

Yeah good call

it's always a little weird when guys are good at one and not the other (shooting 3s vs FTs). andre miller was a great free throw shooter and arguably the worst 3 point shooter ever

Seeing people on twitter acting like Roberson hasn't been awesome this series smh

lol russ own goal

Bowen's three point shooting was kind of a science experiment, not something he was naturally good at

yeah he just found his spot and did the same thing everytime, but thats what ft shooting is

being good at ft shooting and bad at 3s is understandable but the flip is insane

Lots of guys who can't hit 3s have a weirdly restricted shooting form that doesn't allow for range, I think that was the deal with Andre. Lots of guys also shoot too flat (kobe).

Free throw shooting is also really really mental/yips susceptible. E.g. Dwight shooting 80% in practice

Oh my god what a fiasco

ya shooting 3s requires power that certain forms wont allow, tho weve prob seen the last of that as ever kid grown up shooting the hs three when theyre 8 years old and things of that nature

Completely absurd sequence

lmao thunder r bad

Omfg what

Is this an AAU game

ahhh russ almost had it

I want to give russ $20m in exchange for him never shooting another 3

watching the thunder try to do anything is so painful

how has their offense been a completely monstrous zilch through two coaching admins

its russ

we thought it was brooks but, its russ

the wiz O is good

yup

sorry, glasses

watching the rest of their players be terrified to do anything other than get the ball back to russ for the last 5 minutes of the game is not a great sign

Russell Westbrook bad pass (Patrick Beverley steals)
Russell Westbrook bad pass (Patrick Beverley steals)
Russell Westbrook misses 24-foot three point jumper
Russell Westbrook misses 27-foot three point jumper
Russell Westbrook makes 27-foot three point jumper (Steven Adams assists)
Russell Westbrook misses 28-foot three point jumper
Alex Abrines makes tip shot
Russell Westbrook lost ball turnover (Patrick Beverley steals)
End of the 4th Quarter
End of Game

eesh

same criticism at Russ that MJ would get when he was surrounded by a bunch of stiffs. some of it is warranted of course, just as it was for MJ. but it's not like Bulls were gonna go any further w/MJ ceding crunch time shots to Dave Corzine or Sedale Threatt.

I feel bad abt this steve kerr thing

gerald green playoff starter 2017 [kg scream anything is possible]

lol mirotic is bad

I have important news for you hoops fans. A certain latvian hoops heartthrob spurs rookie was spotted at a local vegetarian restaurant with a doggo and a lady friend this morning. Sources tell me he is tall as fuck and drives a BMW.

incredible scoop thank u

lol celtics lost two games at home cause they played horford at the 4 and rondo holds a grudge

butler gonna have to try to win this game himself

Isaiah Canaan hasn't played more than seven minutes in a game since the All-Star break.

NBA on ESPN
@ESPNNBA
Three-straight 30-point triple-doubles for the first time in NBA playoff history

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-IeUsTWAAAyLQK.jpg

(on 10 for 28 shooting)

the russ show is truly one of the strangest things in nba history

those two guys down by the front are not impressed

uhh celtics have one of their patented howre they gonna score lineups in

[they score 8 straight point]

chicagos cheerleaders are called the luvabulls lol uh

wow al horford with the assertive block

celtics,,, fouling

refs really not "letting em play"

looks like i tuned in just in time to see the celtics unravelling :/

o god what is happenong

Gobert playing tonight

celtics were winning w swarming D then the refs started calling fouls pn every play and welp

rose is the house lol

IT takin over!

play him the rest of the game

celtics -4 on missed goal tending calls

uhhh refs r such haters

the things IT is doing to the bulls in the second half are obscene

alllll

celtics switching IT onto butler way too easy then not giving him help all game idgi

butlers played the entire 2nd half

dwade utterly cooked

hoiberg is the failson version of brad stevens

yeah he got owned tonight

welp how many series have had the road team win the first 4, crazy

Isaiah Thomas in final 17 minutes of game: 17 points, 6-of-10 FG, 5-of-5 FT, 5 assists in 15 minutes. +9.

gordon has food pois

lol

Brad on Green: "I was trying to put him back in there one time and there were so many wraps he couldn't get them off. " #Celtics 

really wish i followed through on my plan to bet on the celtics to win the series after they were down 0-2

what odds

idk i never looked them up but i assumed they'd be favorable

lol hoiberg thinks he can shame nba refs into calling carrying what a rube

http://i.imgur.com/DjhR78M.png

hahahah go back to college you clown

Joe Ingles is gonna get 10m/yr

that should have been a goal tend

I guess Rodney Hood is never gonna happen

bad rotation by gobert there to give cp3 the layup

Man it would be lame if the blakeless clippers made it through

by the power of cp3

wtf JJ

xp well, it sure wouldn't by the power of doc's brilliant coaching.

That's a sweep through

lolol chris finishing the shooting form long after he lost the ball

fuckin iso joe

2 dunks in 5 years

joe johnson, battled-tested playoff vet is not a ook i thought i'd see or appreciate this year

*look

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Sneaky underrated part of this big game from Joe Johnson - he's gonna get paid 3-5 years from now by Doc Rivers.

Really bold pass by hill there

joe johnson dominating playoff crunch time 2017

joe johnson dominating playoff crunch time 2017

You have to do hard double teams on joe Johnson

wow man wtf

Clips have only scored 12 points in 4th quarter at the 1:30 mark!

Haha I forgot the clippers cut ingles, doc almost making a good move

is joe johnson a top 8 player

he might have been...when he was in my top 8 on MYSPACE #2005humor

heh love a series that all tied up

I may have realized this before but it's funny that the Jazz have Diaw and Joe, both sides of "the trade"

Ha I never even thought about that, crazy

Also on the is this really 2017 tip was Tony Parker guarding Vince carter in a tight playoff series the other day (they were both playing well but still)

we thought it was brooks but, its russ

― lag∞n, Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wasn't gonna put money on it or anything but I had a good feeling brooks was secretly at least an above average coach and a good fit for the wiz

I mean if you handed out a team of lebron clones on a neutral floor for a coach-offI think he still gets smoked by pop spoelstra Carlisle maybe a couple other guys but he's definitely better than we thought and I think he's gotten more creative since ok c

the boston celtics have evened the series vs the chicago bulls

i knew the clips had ingles but not who they let him go for

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Doc Rivers waived Joe Ingles to sign Jared Cunningham, who now plays for the Jiangsu Monkey King in China

the boston celtics have evened the series vs the chicago bulls

this development makes me want to read sports articles

boston sports media has poisoned our minds

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-MXeSLVoAAjzQt.jpg

when your thinking about your dreams and aspirations

are you there God? it's me, basketball

what happened to the clips last night

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2015/08/40yov/lead_960.jpg?1440001656

what happened to the clips last night

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 24, 2017 10:54 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

joe Johnson took over for real and JJ reddick has been AWFUL

Josh Eberley 🇨🇦‏Verified account @JoshEberley

Westbrook by Q:

Shots - Assists - FG%

1st: 6.3 - 3.8 - 48%

2nd: 6.5 - 4.5 - 38.5%

3rd: 7.3 - 2 - 34.5%

4th: 9.5 - 1 - 31.9%

that ol westbrook playoff magic

had a good lol at the first half of his presser last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTCqyDx6LIk

heh sad boy hoiberg mightve had a point https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/856577845476212736

IT2 is a chronic carrier for sure

feel like that one is so insane the refs just cldnt believe what they saw, seen that happen a bunch with blatant double dribbles

wow

yeah curry had that one recently too
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/849488599133413377

but those examples are just something else completely

lol doris thinking he was smiling cause he made a nice play

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-Mk33_V0AAAZol.jpg

russ, good shoulders

harden is cool hes always making harden type gestures even when hes getting choked out

lol @ adams fulfilling his bond henchman destiny

this play really was amazing:

https://twitter.com/aardodson/status/856508497915256834

as great as that play was, the thunder's inability to foul in the ensuing possession was one of the most complete breakdowns i've ever seen

bizarre end of game all around. russ fishing for and1 threes was bad.

feel like that one is so insane the refs just cldnt believe what they saw, seen that happen a bunch with blatant double dribbles

― lag∞n, Monday, April 24, 2017 2:46 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark

kinda like when players take 7 steps for a dunk

yeah the refs just freeze lol

So I was googling Joe Ingles' wife and apparently she plays a professional sport in Australia called Netball...

And uh wtf is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oKOXiqJkwA

is that the one that's like basketball but the hoops have no backboard

yup

first three minutes of the bucks game were fire

oof now a 17-0 run raps

toronto looking very in sync

netball looks like a combination of basketball and ultimate frisbee

God I can't even watch anymore

oh no r.i.p. blazers

What a beating

that was a nice move by dame tho damn

Is this gonna be a 50 point quarter?d

I'm behind on the dvr but yeah this is not how you wanna go out

oh wow this is a true massacre

lol ive played netball and it totally sucks as you would expect

i watched the hawks/wiz game and just wanted to say it was bad

so bad.

also lol micah

lol warriors social media person

Julie Phayer‏Verified account @juliephayer 49m49 minutes ago
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i predict that the portland trail blazers are "done for"

you might wanna stay up, there could be a furious 30-point flurry from damien lillard once he finds the secret 10-point shot spot adam silver hides in every arena

At the end of three quarters, most of the dubs and blazers look like they would rather not play the last quarter. Except dame is still plugging away hard as he can and steph looks interested in scoring just enough to stay ahead of dame's pace.

well I guess the important thing is the young fellas learned an important lesson: don't spot the warriors 14 points in the first two minutes of an elimination game

even more to the point, don't play the dubs in the first round when you were 41-41 and they were 67-15; it ends badly.

I enjoyed the wiz hawks game but i like this hawks team for some reason and was hoping they would square it up. i really like watching schroeder and when dwight plays like he did tonight they are pretty tough. also lots of good eyebrows on that squad, hardaway jr (best in the league), milsap, baze, thabo

pdx was ready for summer no shame in that.

glad they saw the light and kept nurk on the bench this time around

for sure.

warriors bench has turned out to be better than last years.

these normal powell dunks O__0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePB3NqjowY

powell not getting minutes until game 4 is another oddity of casey's coaching

great piece by dion! https://www.theplayerstribune.com/dion-waiters-miami-heat-nba-is-lucky

and heres coach nick on isaiahs travels, p good tho it cldve used some context as to what other players are getting away with, like is isaiah the worst or is this normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpRZUazIurw

it2 def the worst in the league at it currently

dude is also 5'9

"the worst at it" is the wrong way to thing about it, hes the best at it

great piece by dion! https://www.theplayerstribune.com/dion-waiters-miami-heat-nba-is-lucky

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:15 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was awesome

He's not lying about the called shot on that win streak either- Durant told that story a couple of places too the last few months

"the worst at it" is the wrong way to thing about it, hes the best at it

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:26 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. it doesnt bug me at all btw

kinda feel like they shd clean up the hand under the ball stuff but on the other hand he is insanely crafty at it so i have to give him credit like u watch some of those full speed and they look normal then in slowmo its like holy shit hes devious

yeah the 3 steps before putting the ball down is crazy in slo mo.

waiters article was awesome.

seems kinda ridiculous to moan about the UNSTOPPABLE ADVANTAGE that the 5'9 guy has

just block his shot already jeez

literally everybody in the nba puts their hand under the ball on the dribble. that horse has left the barn

Carrying was much more flagrant in the late 90s, maybe they'll crack down on it again

great piece by dion! https://www.theplayerstribune.com/dion-waiters-miami-heat-nba-is-lucky

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:15 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

yah this was great - i didn't realize he was from south philly. i wonder how close he was to me

http://i.imgur.com/LWIhnjU.jpg

the headline is so good

eh i am fine with the refs doing their jobs

what is the refs job, makes u think

to swallow the whistles at the end of the game, but also to swallow the whistles if other rules are broken

it's really a very clear and easy job when you think about it. just don't call certain things that are in the rulebook but call other things that are, based on whether i like them

their job is to "don the stripes"

assts/TO for the offs so far:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-SlrQKXsAsbbXz.jpg

wow dray

wow evan turner

I think Evan Turner may have had some turnovers on attempted passes that were not credited as such because the ball was grabbed right out of his hands or batted away before he could do anything the scorekeeper could recognize as him passing the ball.