2017-18 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD PART 1 ALL OF AMERICAS FAVORITE TEAMS ARE BACK

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good work except for kelly o, i was first gonna say you shouldn't have posted him but really the problem is that he is too small in that pic

"drake as drawn by a sixth grader" is impossible to unsee btw wrt lonzo ball, extends to the brothers too huh

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We back

U bums

"drake as drawn by a sixth grader" is impossible to unsee btw wrt lonzo ball, extends to the brothers too huh

― marcos, Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:16 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It haunts me too

im sad that my prediction this was 100% correct but then sometimes it pops into my head and I laugh

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excellent

that Thibs pic is truly a classic

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if cavs fans dont boo through this entire thing theyre soft

The Cavs reportedly plan to honor Kyrie Irving tonight with a "Thank You" video. https://t.co/SQuEuVHcTo pic.twitter.com/zdwqOTBLks

— NBC Sports (@NBCSports) October 17, 2017

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lol yes

ahaha what early internet or ilx meme is that reminding me of, fuck

oh nm it's this

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lmao

his look starts off so good but then, the pants

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also is he wearing a watch around his ankle

tbh I first googled Beasley watch before googling Beasley brain

lol did we discuss that its the first im noticing it

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big watch guy

i dont mind it

where you gonna put watch #3 huh?? using 100% brain capacity RIGHT THERE

everything about that whole thing slays me, on my dying day please lay me in a gray sweatshirt that says goat in new york in whatever dumb font that is and shower me in watches

looks like bodoni to me, def not dumb!

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the knicks are a podcast this year

brain facts with super cool beas 780 episodes

can the knicks help me build my website?

enter the code word DOLAN for 15% off your first order at meundies today

lmao

I've never worn a more comfortable sweatband than my Mack Weldon sweatband

The Knicks are supported by a generous grant from the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation

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It looks like he's seeing his reflection in the back panel of a Hornets pinball machine

ahahaa

dubs got the whole league shook

NBA on TNT tips off with "The Response." pic.twitter.com/EGrVFp8OZw

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) October 17, 2017

wld be better if it ended with one of them mentioning that steph and kd are both kinda injury prone

lol @ hoodie melo

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Later on, Anthony revealed the origins of Hoodie Melo. "It started with a beanie, like I was just in the gym and I didn't have a haircut, and I was like, 'I'm just gonna go and throw a hat on. I wanted to sweat, and I just started working back out in the summer," he explained. "From there, it went to a hoodie and it got out, and the phenomenon started."

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THOUSAND OAKS, California (CNN) -- Actor Martin Lawrence is reported in very critical but stable condition in a Los Angeles area hospital after collapsing Sunday from apparent heat stroke.

Martin, 34, best known for his starring role in the Fox television series "Martin," was jogging in the summer heat while wearing multiple layers of clothing, apparently trying to lose weight for an upcoming movie role when he collapsed.

YALL WE GOT DRAMMMMMMMMA

Sources: Bulls forwards Bobby Portis and Nikola Mirotic were involved in serious altercation in practice today, leaving Mirotic hospitalized and out indefinitely. Story coming.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 17, 2017

eek

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*picks up lauri markkanen in fantasy league*

just the start that team needed

lmao thats exaclty what i just did xp

removing bobby portis from the list of people i want to mess with

btw goon i know you don't pod but haralabob was on the simmons podcast and just casually went in on the warriors ownership and silicon valley bullshit, you would have been delighted.

yeah that was funny.

ha nice wldve figured him for a startup enthusiast tbh

Mirotic was taken to the hospital Tuesday after their shoving altercation during practice ended with an alleged cheap shot from Portis to Mirotic’s face, league sources told The Vertical. Mirotic is undergoing tests, but is expected to be out for the foreseeable future, league sources said.

also great work on the imagestream to start the thread guys, i am now not on my work comp so half the images aren't blocked lol

sounds like he got knocked out xp

hopefully thats all it is and its not a broken jaw or something

ha nice wldve figured him for a startup enthusiast tbh

― lag∞n, Tuesday, October 17, 2017 6:45 PM (forty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hard to tell w/him but he was just like they never discovered anything about basketball, it's just throwing a bunch of money at the wall, they're way too pleased w/themselves, etc. tho he did go out of his way to note that he's met with bob myers and bob myers isn't about that stuff.

yeah just figured since the only thing they mentioned was tests xp

There is a clause in the player contract that allows a team to terminate a contract if a violent act is committed.

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) October 17, 2017

get out nikola!

this was Bobby's last retweet

Months from now you will thank yourself. Keep grinding

— Ray Lewis (@raylewis) October 14, 2017

oh oops i read that wrong. i guess the bulls could kick out portis but won't.

welp

Adrian Wojnarowski‏ @wojespn 2m2 minutes ago

In practice scuffle with Bobby Portis in Bulls practice, Nikola Mirotic suffered a fractured bone in his face, league source tells ESPN.

geez

insane

You think someone who thinks like this wouldn’t mind punching his teammate? https://t.co/05zYO1I7Qx

— Oluwacloutinho (@Nigerianscamsss) October 17, 2017

is it the united center? or the punching-each-other-in-the-face center?

yes

we will have a real cool time this season; feel the excitement rush thru your brains like coke/heroin speedballs

it is less than an hour before the basketball game

the basketball is happening

celtics are out there running, love it

i changed my mind i dont like the nba

shit RIP hayward RIP celtics RIP lagoon

rip

man I miss Kyrie already

this really fucking sucks

i'll pray for u celtics fans

pretty uncool in a league with one team 100x better than all the others that the best player on one of the other contenders suffers a devastating injury in the first game smh

Y’all what happened I’m commuting

hayward did a paul george

Hayward broke his leg.

hopefully its just broken / no connective tissue damage

Wow wtf on the thing like pg ?

i don't have the guts to watch again but i thought it was more ankle-y on first glance

oh wow man i'm sorry guys i'm still at work and had no idea what a bummer

Yah not watching it ever

it did look more ankley def

Bummer sorry y’all celts fans

i watched the PG thing live and i def did not ever watch it again and it haunts me

all the players looked totally devastated

yea I'm sorry celtics fans this sucks

it's early though and if it's not too serious y'all should be all right

theres no way thats wasnt serious

if it's the ankle i suppose he could be back by spring or so? i dont even like to think about broken legs tbh.

if it was his ankle he tore everything in there which is prob career threatening

yea I didn't actually see what happened (busy fuckin with bad Reddit streams) I just saw him on the stretcher

video of player/fan reactions

Do yourself a favor don't look up the Hayward injury..look at their faces, it was awful. #GordonHayward pic.twitter.com/TXaPoX3a7b

— Chad Amaral (@chad_amaral) October 18, 2017

well then

Boston forward Gordon Hayward has been diagnosed with a fractured left ankle tonight.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 18, 2017

This really sucks. There’s just nothing bad about Gordon Hayward.

Jesus i hadn't even turned this game on yet

Fuck sports

Marcus Smart just can’t fucking shoot

Apparently I keep dodging these I was watching the clippers game where Shaun Livingstons knee exploded but it was a blowout and I turned it off five minutes before

I think I started watching that USA scrimmage that got pg but had something else to do

I guess for everyone's safety I either have to watch all of the basketball ever or stop watching any basketball any time

how are injuries not banned yet

just feel bad for gordon, guy did everything right in his career to get to this point

What do the injury expert twitter guys say

the one i read says the ankle fracture is only the beginning, they need the mri

yeah bones heal its all abt the tendons/ligaments

goddammit

bullshit I wanted at least one conference to have some suspense

the cavs bench reactions are all I need to see, I think Kevin love vomited

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....murmurs coming out that it isn't as catastrophic as it looked.

How can Lebron complain about that foul call

He may never learn to shoot but Jaylen Brown is a baller

It seems like the cavs kind of suck

really enjoying baynes, last year's team was never this physical at any point

derrick rose is killing the cavs is my current take

Baynes has looked like a great fit yeah

Didn’t people roast Ainge for taking Rozier instead of Portis

Pretty awful game from Horford...

tatum has no fear.

wow, cavs gutting this one out

LMAO the nike jerseys are tearing

other than the horrible gordo injury, this was a great opening game.

yea that put a whole bummer on the night unfortunately

hi guys i'm here now, just in time for the first game of the basketball season

lol this ring ceremony for all the white guys is p hilarious

Mike Gorman says on @NBCSBoston early indication is that Hayward’s fracture is clean. No ligament or blood vessel damage. #Celtics

— Trenni Kusnierek (@trenni) October 18, 2017

not sure how they cn say that before an mri but hey ill take it

also the celtics won the game tonight as the gordon mourning period (first half) does not count

fair

javale got a ring *cries*

heh

Surprised he didn’t drop it

No ligament damage is hard to believe

lol the music is so fuckin corny i can't stand it

yeah im no doctor but its my understanding that ligaments reside in the ankle and his ankle got hella fucked up

there should be a song other than we are the champions

maybe i will write a song that people can use in these moments that is not we are the champions

Brad Stevens says Gordon Hayward has a dislocated ankle and a fractured tibia.

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) October 18, 2017

perhaps the ligaments are not damaged because they are technically missing

"the champions are us" by clay

Dr. La Goon, a specialist in fucked up injuries, was consulted by team doctors Tuesday night after Hayward sustain a completely heinous and fucked up injury.

"My dude, this ankle is FUCKED up," Dr. La Goon said.

"bro that shit, i dont even know"

i'm in medical school and i can confirm the ankle shouldn't go that way

wow wait until at least yr residency before giving medical diagnosis plz

ugh just unavoidably saw an image of it and now im depressed.

First thing JaVale did with his ring: Walk over to Nick Young and wave it in his face.

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) October 18, 2017

Is it possible to dislocate your ankle and not tear ligaments

dray starts the warriors offensive season by bricking a three. love it tbh

christ kevin you aren't a doctor yet? get on w/it imo

the warriors appear to still be good

med school is long :/

RIP the rest of the NBA btw

they shd give it a rest enough already

Hmmm I’m seeing some pretty reasonable timetables for dislocated ankles

theres got to more to it than that tho

Flabby P more like it

teh

Eric Gordon got that HGH connect

Harden just done did Bell nasty pic.twitter.com/smqtKnfhL3

— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) October 18, 2017

warriors took a lot of bad shots

kerr played 11 payers. everybody trying to get theirs

i meant to post this gordon dunk not that stock harden move

WHAT THE ... Eric Gordon STILL GOT BUNNIES 🐰. Welcome to the league, rook!!! #BOUNCENIGHT pic.twitter.com/OS780gPlC6

— Point Wob (@World_Wide_Wob) October 18, 2017

Didn’t mbah a moute shoot a good 3 point percentage on a tiny sample and fool everyone last year I can’t remember for sure

sounds right

rockets looking v. choppy so far; i'll hold to my take that they should shred the reg. season but chris doesn't look comfortable at all

Rockets on pace to score 124. Warriors on pace to score 142.

warriors will win 420 to 69

Klay for 420

Doesn’t look like chris Paul should be playing tomorrow night

If Gordon Hayward is gone, maybe for the season, LeBron's path to losing a sixth finals gets even easier.

— Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) October 18, 2017

how can a dude suck this much it's unreal

looks like the warriors have their own clint capela now

yeah bell is gonna be a good fit

draymond to the locker room after landing a little awkward

eric gordon looks really quick out there

Draymond Green (left knee strain) will not return to tonight's game.

— Warriors PR (@WarriorsPR) October 18, 2017

harden is in good form b still hunts fouls too hardut he

Ref broke a rib or caught a hernia?

looks like a rib

eric grodon >>>>> chris paul

lmao alright

not gonna count

I like that skip Bayless tweet

I love cwebb but that was ugly

GSW tied for the worst record in the NBA

Wow what a strange upset

rox played some d in the 2nd half

dubs were up 13 when draymond went down

remember when the dubs got beat by the spurs by 30 on opening night last year

I don’t know what the numbers show but maybe when draymond is injured it’s ok to put Zaza back out there

Just seems like he’s better at basketball than Looney

kerr was really all over the map tonight. no javale too

wow going to sleep is bad as it turns out

I'd like to see 22 yr old skip bayless leading those trash 07 cavs against the Duncan-Manu-Tony Spurs at their peak and see how he feels about that

not sure how i feel about this cavs team. feels weird to root for derrick rose. not really sure how wade fits in

i love having crowder, he's great, im eager to see IT in there too

they looked p bad last night tho thats to be expected with a ton of new players/missing the star they traded for, thooo on the other hand theres really no way the kevin love at center experiment can work defensively

on the other other hand keeping him nearer the basket will allow him to rebound more

and you cant be relying on bron all season to put up huge near trip dubs to barely win games via teams that punted the first half via emotional trauma from losing their newly acquired star to a gruesome injury

last night was weird. i drew m/l nothing from either game.

yea that was not good xp

could be that this is the season of stark existentialism but hard to tell from two games

early season is kinda meaningless, tho i dont think i saw anything to refute the logically correct assumptions 1. the cavs wont be that good without IT back at full strength 2. kevin love cant play center 3. the dubs depend on draymond defensively a lot

1st celtics rookie with an opening day double double since larry b #33

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Portis 8 game suspension seems loooow

maybe the montenegrin apostle was asking for it

i'm afraid the injury coupled with the suspension puts a dent in the Bulls' playoff hopes, pretty disappointing overall

lol

Brett Brown says we could see Embiid’s mins limit rises fairly quickly. Mentions that if he’s being “greedy” 32 mins is the holy grail.

stoked for a big Bucks win tonight

greedy 4 the holy grail

Ben Simmons is a talented fellow

fultz's shot looks pretty ugly

tobias harris has 17 points in like 8 minutes ::shrug::

normal player

The Markelle Fultz free throw thing is one of the stranger NBA stories in a while

It seems like a really bad sign in general

There can’t be many hall of famers who spent their first offseason learning to shoot like chuck hayes

marcus smart still cannot shoot, even at 3ft from the basket

scrappy tho lol

jaylen brown is a delight

kyrie is really bad

Anthony Davis down grabbing his thigh

Already huh

He didn’t go to the locker room. He’s roughing it out. Country strong.

Kyrie is not a PG

Dennis Smith backdoor alley oop dunk on the first possession

it's time for "nuggets"

Kyrie is not a PG

― Spottie, Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:44 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's been giving up the ball too much, they need to let him operate

def forcing it passing it when he shd be attacking and attacking when he shd be passing, brad will help him figure it out

he just played a great defensive possession. fought through two screens and got in a passing lane for a steal.

hes been notably effortful on defense through the 1st two games, still seems often unsound but effortful, celtics really need to work to get him open catch and shoot threes, they will shred on those looks

it's time for "nuggets"

― ciderpress, Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:01 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u and me both friend

bill russell sent a hashtag to gordon hayward

nuggets announcer calls a blatantly stupid foul by plumlee a "good foul" lol

kyrie has been garbage this game they'd be better with rozier

f delly and his full squat three

i forgot ricky rubio was on the jazz now

too many players changed team s this year it shouldnt be allowed

lol you guys see the score of the pacers/nets game?

Dennis Smith Jr is an exciting fellow

Dennis Smith just got a rebound under the basket and calmly dunked it with two hands like he’s Barkley. He has short arms.

why is george hill on the kings

lamarcus just said "touch it" an uncomfortable number of times in that interview

dennis schroeder has taken 19 shots in 3 quarters!

He’s all they’ve got

Some of these games have such weird lineup decisions that it’s putting me in a fugue state

I think nurkic may be too thin now.

Prob worth it tho. Doubt his lower body holds up with the weight he had on top before.

lamarcus needs to touch it a lot to get his rhythm

correct, according to him he hadn't been touching it enough

everything is horrible

the wolves look like a f'n aau team in these unis

Lin went down with a knee injury he was crying :(

I like the Wolves unis

Yah me n u buddy

Guess kat didn’t decide to learn defense this offseason. If he couldn’t learn from KG... not sure it’s gonna happen

lol i forgot abt the nuggets alex jones ass tv guy

i didn't know alec burks could do things

lamarcus is having a v v good game

plz tell me more about this alex jones nuggets guy

he sounds like alex jones

i guess he used to play for the nuggs

Burks can never stay Healthy is his prob

danny green is hitting all kinds of shots. fadeaways, pull up 3s in transitions, off the dribble j's, wth contract year all star

joffrey lauvergne has been mostly garbage, but his effort is there

liking this caleb swanigin fellow a lot so far, dude could beast on the glass given time

rudy gay's stats aren't amazing, but he is making lots of little things happen. football passes in transition, hella dunks, getting in passing lanes.

this manu ginobili guy is good

its cool how manu and vince are still dece players and they like doing nba

So is Chris Paul permanently gimped here

dray getting injured masked the fact that he didnt look that good

He was his usual self

its cool how manu and vince are still dece players and they like doing nba

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:21 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree, they are ageless wonders

the suns are really bad

black hole suns

Um

Suns are doing some really embarrassing things

maybe this is a cliche, but rudy gay has given the spurs a lot of lineup versatility. he's not elite at anything, but he's good at everything.

98-55 after 3

Gay was def worth the pickup at that price

if tonight was any indication, he has lost nothing athletically

Devin Booker left the game with cramps

the crunchtime lineup was patty mills, manu, danny green, rudy, lamarcus. three point shooters up and down the line.

I think this is indicative of things

Gonna be a long season for the Suns pic.twitter.com/USWgz5GHqu

— Quinoa🖕Appropriator (@MattAlwaysWrong) October 19, 2017

104-55!

the suns are really bad

I remember earl Watson saying in preseason that he wanted dragan bender to take 10 threes per game. Which makes me think there’s coaching issues here.

Marquess Chriss has a rebound a block and a turnover

the suns are playing like a very bad nba team

as the 4th quarter started, with the suns down by 40+, the scoreboard flashed: On Your Feet!

I laughed out loud.

Chriss just blew a dunk, forgot to guard swanigan (who hit a three) and then dribbled the ball off his foot

I’ve been watching awful league pass basketball for almost 20 years and this game is way up there. Unbelievable for night one.

the bulls have competition

nba record for largest margin of victory in season opener

Hayward “unlikely to return this season”

Zero minutes for Boban. Stop the madness.

Jeez suns. Almost went to that game glad I didn’t

stats thread is up

2017_____N–B–A–S–T–A–T–S_____2018

Think I'm gonna love this hawks team

Lin ruptured patella tendon out for season. Depressing.

sucks

darnit

on the brightside, maybe this is the Year of the LeVert

no that was 1986

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Bloodline_%28LeVert_album%29.jpg

levert on the left looks like all business lebron

https://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/the_lebrons_family.jpg

Melo's gonna hit 10 threes tonight

freezing cold take

Lmao

Ray Felton now plays for the Thunder. Don't they know he's cursed?

"We didn't want another PF and nobody was left that was on our board."
- #Bulls VP John Paxson on trading his 2nd round pick

That is some really impressive commitment to covering for ownership

Horrible loss for the bulls but markkanen did some great stuff

Westbrook only one 3pt attempt and 16 assists.

russ getting cupping treatment? aka that shaq

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that was like a combined 0-8 start in l.a.

this thing with calling a million travels when guys start their dribbles is bad

yeah it's awful

both LA teams are gonna be fun tbh

one wld think the refs will forget abt it soon like myriad emphases of yore xp

Otm last couple posts. It’s weird watching these rosters

both LA teams are gonna be fun tbh

― k3vin k., Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:50 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they both literally look like strangers playing a pickup game rn but i think they'll get there

does blake have a little ... beer gut?

Blake has that CrossFit bloat

teledosic will capture america's heart i'm sure of this

Clippers already 1000 percent more likable I wonder what it could be

milos has betrayed the balkans by shaving for this game

lol pat bev

Hero

Fun lineup theodisic, pat bev, gazelle, Blake, DJ

the lakers drafting and starting ball both seem like bad ideas to me

Gotta show him off to recruit Lebron and PG

like cld u concoct a situation that wld put more pressure on a young player than what balls been through the last year

one thing i like about the clippers in theory is with gallo and blake they can put four guys out there who can handle the ball anytime they want.

yeah thats not bad to have

early season nba is always pretty ragged but when every team has all new players lol

happy Lonzo day everyone

warriors really shd throw out a 20 game win streak in this environment

it's true, all the competitive teams are a little unsettled right now

lmao that sequence what

uhh Bucks look pretty good

xp

yeah nice try :)

lol giannis is total unstoppable tho

he's great and i promise you i'm on the upper end of khris middleton fans but i dislike the rest of that roster.

delly needs to be deported asap

clarkson is much better than ball

who the fuck is alex caruso??

ball has made some nice early passes to get into the offense but that's it.

i don't really have thoughts on clarkson but i love how all nba watchers seem to hate him despite his decent stats.

they had him last year i think he came from the d league xp

Clarkson is great considering where he was drafted. Found money. He is a future 6th man of the year candidate imo.

delly needs to be deported asap

crikey!!

lol pat beverly is doing good work

Lakers bench unit is better than the starters

someone needed to immediately punk lonzo, thankfully pat was up to the task

Couldn’t think up a better pairing for him opening night

lonzo padding his rebound stats

blake is some sort of three point marksman now i guess

lmao bogut

ingram still isnt ready

he does not look great

The Ingram jumper looks BROKE

he may end up being one of those guys who looks like he was made to play basketball but just doesnt have the feel

Lauri > Lonzo

lot of rookies looking pretty > lonzo right now

Lakers ain't even makin the Playoffs😌

— Lonzo Ball (@ZO2_) October 30, 2013

Clippers guard Patrick Beverly screamed outside locker room, "Weak ass m****** f******. Bring him out on the... https://t.co/9BO7aCqMjb

— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpearsESPN) October 20, 2017

i think a lot of players are gonna wanna son lonzo

It seems like a James Johnson flagrant foul on Lonzo is better than even money

Beverley on Lonzo Ball: “I told him after the game, due to all the rifraff his dad brings he’s going to get a lot of people coming at him."

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 20, 2017

That reminds me of that story about jayson williams repeatedly committing hard fouls on Brent Barry. Brent asked why he kept doing it and Williams said “sorry man, I just hate your dad.” And Barry replied “I hate him too!”

only watched a little last night but ball looked fine to me. obv being matched up against pat bev is gonna make anyone look worse

"ricky rubio w/ a decent shot" still seems like a highly likely lonzo outcome to me

i didn't get the kidd comparisons when lonzo was in college but i think he's gonna have a harder time scoring than he did in college so i see it now. a lot of 16-12-11 stat lines in his future it looks like

does he have a decent shot? can he rack up the assists if he cant beat his man off the dribble?

i feel like his shot will be fine

why does everyone keep saying thaaat

https://i.imgur.com/mJNglWv.png

like even if he can hit a decent percentage his shot will never be fine because his deranged form limits the types of shots he can take so severely

idk man it goes in

there is not a lot of evidence of that! also see my second point

idk i don't really read too deeply of the college prospect literature but i sort of feel like the track record for 18 year old freshmen who shoot .550/.412/.673 has to be pretty good.

yeah i mean if thats all youve got to go on

buut ucla basically ran people off the court ball was getting a ton of transition layups and wide open threes, which doesnt seem like a plan in the nba, basically unanimous amongst scouts that he struggled to generate offense in the halfcourt, in college

wait .673?

iirc UCLA tried to change lonzo's shot bcuz he has trouble getting it off while off the dribble, especially going in one direction, i forget which. lavar blew up at steve alford and they scrapped it. so i don't think his shot is perfect or fine, just that i'm confident he'll be able to hit open jumpers at an acceptable clip which is far more than ricky rubio can do, to bring it back to the point.

here are my thoughts on lonzo's shot:

1) he seems like someone who has practiced specific shots but has not really worked on general shotmaking. he's got the stepback 3 and the open 3 at least. i bet he'll make the open 3 at a decent clip.

2) related to lack of shotmaking, he's going to take a lot of weird floaters and stuff because i don't think he can line up his jumper on the move.

3) he bricked two free throws last night and both appeared to have sidespin on them, which is...not what you want.

per espn stats the lakers averaged .48 points/possession when beverley guarded lonzo last night

teenage rookie guards tend to be very bad iirc, i'm sure he'll struggle a fair bit

in a league where point guards are relied on so heavily to break down their defender and increasingly to generate and hit quality 3s off the dribble im just not sure how this guy who has trouble beating his own man much less penetrating the second level of D and who has a shot that he cant take going left unless he steps way back fits in, also its kinda weird that everyone is just accepting the it goes in story abt that jumper after 200 college attempts, he may be some sort of basketball genius but how much is that worth if you dont have the fundamental skills to express yr genius, dangelo russell put up 30 in his first game btw

wait .673?

― ciderpress, Friday, October 20, 2017 11:03 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this too

kinda funny how both fultz and ball put up great numbers from 3 but sucked from the line, suspect their 3 percentages will turn out to be a least partially fools gold

UCLA had great spacing but lonzo got the rim in college. he doesn't look like a great one on one player obv but i still think he should be pretty good as a high pick and roll player. as long as guys can't go under picks on him every play (i.e. can he hit moderately deep wide open threes) i think things will mostly lock into place for him given his passing ability.

kinda funny how both fultz and ball put up great numbers from 3 but sucked from the line, suspect their 3 percentages will turn out to be a least partially fools gold

― lag∞n, Friday, October 20, 2017 11:13 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark

i do wonder if the NBA three point revolution means that the old correlation between FT% and true shooting ability will be less strong if every kid coming out of high school now is shooting 100 three pointers a day in practice or whatever.

this is rly good https://www.si.com/nba/2017/10/20/lonzo-ball-lakers-debut-patrick-beverley-clippers

i just went through the box scores of all the games ball has played as a pro summer/pre/regular season and hes currently 14 for 57 from three or 24%, he took 194 total threes in his college career

dedicated hater i like it

the conventional wisdom on ball just doesnt match up with conventional reality, which is why people seem to need to bring out unconventional descriptors like basketball genius to justify ball, the only explanation i can find is people must really like to see perimeter passes delivered a beat earlier than usual

like court vision is a secondary nba skill, its not worth much on its own

I keep seeing this thread title as "all of america's favorite teams are black" and thinking "yeah, true"

lol

good set of games tonight

I still like the jazz for some reason I can't really explain it

well, the reality of lonzo is that he was very good statistically in college and has now played like 3 meaningful games ever maybe as a professional so we'll see.

nb i always said i would take de'aaron fox over him but i think lonzo has a very high floor and will almost certainly be a contributing NBA starter unless something crazy happens like all the pressure and attention due to his dad breaks him mentally. and court vision is one of the reasons why i think that! it's hard to not at least be a good rotation player if you have elite court vision.

contributing nba starter is a massive whiff for a #2 pick! especially in a draft thats looking as strong as this one

pretty happy with the tatum pick so far

mee too man

it's not a massive whiff. a massive whiff is like hasheem thabeet or ben mclemore. it would be far from the ideal outcome but it at least gives you something to bank on.

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Lost in the Lonzo talk was that Brandon Ingram had a really rough game. You worry that he just doesn’t generate enough easy shots.

i think this is a bigger problem for the lakers anyway. it's possible ingram is not very good.

re: fox taking small guards that high in the draft seems so risky idk

eventually the nba, america, and indeed the world is going to have to own up to the fact that lavar balls hype machine worked on them

the idea of lonzo ending up as decent to good but being considered a massive whiff is why i continue to think about ricky rubio in relation to him, as a super hyped PG with supposed preternatural court vision who is sort of a rorschach test in terms of how good he ended up being in the NBA but isn't bad (probably)

good point

eventually the nba, america, and indeed the world is going to have to own up to the fact that lavar balls hype machine worked on them

― lag∞n, Friday, October 20, 2017 12:00 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark

well again he was one of the best statistical players in power conference college basketball last year as a freshman so it's not like there's nothing backing it up

ppl still can't decide if Rubio is good

I think lonzo will become one of those players

5 years from now no one will agree on whether he's good or not still

i just went through the box scores of all the games ball has played as a pro summer/pre/regular season and hes currently 14 for 57 from three or 24%, he took 194 total threes in his college career

― lag∞n, Friday, October 20, 2017 8:33 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wonder if some players have a hard time transitioning to the NBA ball.

the nba ball is the best ball!

yeah of course im just saying no one talks about how different it feels to the crap composite squishy ones every grows up with and are used in HS/NCAA

everyone*

ncaa shd shell out for some dece balls wth

they used an all leather Wilson ball in the 90s, it was really nice, had me a couple. Somewhere along the way they adopted the Wilson Evolution and then the HORRIBLE Nike balls. ugh. now every team or conference uses whatever their sponsors makes them play with.

SEC being sponsored by nerf koosh has really hurt them

well again he was one of the best statistical players in power conference college basketball last year as a freshman so it's not like there's nothing backing it up

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 20, 2017 12:04 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk his stats are pretty easily contextualized which they demand to be considering he shoots the ball from the wrong side of his head and is generally weird, not that all stats shdnt contextualized, also his ft shooting stat was bad which shdve worried ppl, also his teammate tj leaf had arguably better stats and went 15 spots later

Fun lineup theodisic, pat bev, gazelle, Blake, DJ

― Spottie, Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:59 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Def their best. I'm not personally that invested in lonzo ball yet (though he's a lot bigger than I realized) but pat Beverly giving him the fuck u rook treatment was hilarious to me

the only explanation i can find is people must really like to see perimeter passes delivered a beat earlier than usual

― lag∞n, Friday, October 20, 2017 11:40 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes this is one of the best things besides dunx

i laughed out loud when he popped him his first time up the floor

it's possible ingram is not very good.

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 20, 2017 11:58 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wld be so beautiful if none of ingram/ball/randle end up allstars, also if russell does, and if the celtics get a franchise player w lakers pick

Speaking of bigger than I realized that pj tucker contract is a real bargain on a per pound basis amirite

wonder how long the lakers can be terrible before their star starts to wane

theyve been good for basically their entire LA run

I am unconvinced that ingraham is anything other than like the new age version of guys like rasho nesterivic where they just look like a center so they get made a center, except ingraham is long and gangly so everyone goes u look like Durant so go ball

there is def something tantalizing abt him except the ball doesnt go in

Lakers could stay in the wilderness for a decade before we see them on TNT less than ten times a year

They will NEVER wane in the socal area, tv ratings would probably dip if the clippers ripped off like four straight championships and that's it

he takes it to the trim but just ends up bouncing off people and throwing up some junk

Just culturally lakes are ensconced in that Yankees cowboys tier where all they have to do is be decent a few years here and there and every yahoo nationwide who valorizes some decades old championship hauls their jerseys out of the closet and gets back on the bandwagon

(Delicately folds 86 Celtics championship t shirt and replaces it in dedicated drawer)

if children start going their entire childhoods w/o a dominant lakers team i think theyd prob start to lose their insane grip on the LA market, for an nba team to so dominate the attention of a big city feels like it requires exceptional success

plus LA got the rams now! lol (and the chargers)

great pic
https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2F2017%2F10%2F20%2Flonzo-lakers-clippers.jpg&w=1600&q=70

Lonzo reacting to Beverley's incessant trash talk with the dead eyes of somebody who's been playing 1on1 with Lavar Ball for nineteen years.

— Amir Blumenfeld (@jakeandamir) October 20, 2017

ha perfect

it begins

Report: Kevin Love was frustrated with move to center https://t.co/QZbGexBqrA

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 20, 2017

i'll play center if no one else wants to

if children start going their entire childhoods w/o a dominant lakers team i think theyd prob start to lose their insane grip on the LA market, for an nba team to so dominate the attention of a big city feels like it requires exceptional success

― lag∞n, Friday, October 20, 2017 12:42 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're underestimating the depths of delusion the *lakersssss* fan base is capable of plumbing

And I say that with some genuine respect, there are die hard fans for real and that takes literally generations to go away. There are also fans who believe rambis was the best power forward of all time

ingram only shot 44% from the field in college

kevin love just is really not a center, let's be real here.

hey! i'll have you know that kevin love played center in high school.

I am unconvinced that ingraham is anything other than like the new age version of guys like rasho nesterivic where they just look like a center so they get made a center, except ingraham is long and gangly so everyone goes u look like Durant so go ball

De’Aaron Fox probably isn’t the fastest basketball player I’ve ever seen but I’ve never seen anyone run like him in NBA games. He’s like Randy Moss on a go route over and over.

yeah hes one of those players that just looks different, he bounces around even when hes not doing anything

Fox must have been hell on wheels as a six year old.

Fox also otm about in-n-out

u gotta admire someone who attacks the most holy institutions of their new home on day 1

(in n out is dope tho)

Fox looks unorthodox I love it

Fox to write a Palyers Tribune article about the overrated mission style burrito

In n out is good but most places have a local burger joint that’s better

the thing abt in n out its its cheaper than mcdonalds and theyre everywhere in CA, the question is not whats the best burger place, its what if mcdonalds was good

like i like shake shack better than in n out but theyre not really in the same category, in n out is better than five guys and five guys costs twice as much *disclaimer im not a huge "fry guy"

good burgers are easy to find now, good chicken sandwiches are still a problem here

chicken sandwich is def the vanguard

we need an advanced burger stat

only had five guys once in an airport but liked it more than in n out (which is fine)

i thinks its another category as well. way too much money

in other words lagoon otm

innout value cant be beat

haven't thought about in and out from a value standpoint but as an easy coaster the quality of the food is whatever, not something you "need to have" or whatever if you visit.

leaving the skin of a starchy russet potato on your fry certainly puts you in another category of bad

potato skin is so good tho!

five guys is all about large sloppy food, i feel like i've outgrown that. have never liked that style of fries as much as the traditional thin cut ones regardless

fancy waxy potato skins are good

I like potato skins on fries but don't think in n out executes that fry type very well

haven't thought about in and out from a value standpoint but as an easy coaster the quality of the food is whatever, not something you "need to have" or whatever if you visit.

― k3vin k., Friday, October 20, 2017 3:09 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flavor-wise it's really all about wether you like their 'spread' or not (m/l just thousand island dressing). I love it and get extra to dip the fries in.

I go to 5 Guys basically 100% for the cajun style fries.

not to change the subject but CP is out for a month w his knee thing

also kawhi can't walk up a short flight of stairs

seasons off to a great start :/

jfc

they should just cancel the season and try again next year

some random thoughts from the games ive watched so far:

– If Kelly Oubre makes a jump this year and everyone else holds court the Wiz are going to be really good
– Dangelo R is and will be the best player between Randle/Ingram/Ball and himself
– Schroeder is still one of my favorite plaers idc
– Paul Goerge / Roberson are gonna be hell for teams to navigate. And having Steven Adams is good too. Three great defenders in you're starting lineup can cover up quite a bit.
– Clint Cappella and Covignton are best value players in the league this year. both are gonna get mad pa
– Kinda felt bad when Chandler Parsons got boo'd but it's understandable. Dillan Brooks might be better than him after only one game.
– Jeff Teague is bad
– I take the under on Gentry being out by New Years
– CJ Miles is a great fit for the Raps if he can stay healthy

Rozier just got fouled on a 3 and went 0-3 at the line

lol we have smart jerseys now?

love to have my clothes participate in a russian ddos attack

pretty into the baby celtics. wonder if gordon can get back for the playoffs

the celtics babies keep trying to score at the rim on embiid and it doesn't work

lot of sloppy travel/carry/etc turnovers in this game with all the noobs

this game has been frustrating to watch, no one can get in rhythm since the refs are blowing the whistle on literally every possession

Thonnnnn

are the blazers actually good

no

this is the most overofficiated game i've ever seen, someone's going to foul out in the 3rd quarter

good i did not think so but it is important to ask the questions

the best player they've faced so far is eric bledsoe

you may be underestimating the coaching prowess of early watson and nate mcmillan

ah i love the age of os x aggressive autocorrect

any pump fake is a travel now is what i have learned from this game

kelly o gonna have some trouble in this new nba world

this game has finally been allowed to achieve a rhythm halfway through the 4th quarter. this is normal

giannis is good

i think the jazz are legit

lol right after i post that they have 10 embarrassing possessions in a row

Dubs r bad

rip dubs

just finished that celtics-philly game and i think it was one of the worst officiated ive seen, it was like the refs had been given too many off season instructions and melted down lol

also the hayward injury along with depriving them of an allstar has really fucked with the celtics rotation, theyre just playing too many young players now, it was a bit exacerbated tonight since smart and morris were both out but still they dont have enough experience with a lot of lineups, and they just fn disorganized since its a whole new team which is something they wldve struggled w regardless, kyrie is looking pretty ragged one possession hes in the flow the next he dribbles out the clock and shoots a contested three, tatum looks like hes been in the league for four yeasr on the other hand

rodney hood fucked up his ankle and being carried off the court, looks like ive jinxed the jazz pretty badly

Dubs look lazy

wld make sense that theyve entered the dont really try during the regular season phase of their dynasty

ok im watching suns-lakers because i love awful stuff

josh jackson hit back to back threes

im also watching suns/lakers

josh jackson looks like a real player

lonzo looks like a real player so far vs this team

no one else on either team particularly looks like a real player

i guess devin booker but you know

Pretty fun few minutes there w draymond tech getting into it with boogie then boogie drawing another foul on him then curry draws two charges on boogie in a row then dray and boogie yapping then Gentry tech. Of course the warriors went on a run after that.

Uh how was Rasho Nesterovic anything other than a center
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, October 20, 2017 2:49 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I meant dudes he get pressed into being a baller because they are generally the size and shape of a baller, used to happen the most with centers (rasho probably was real but I couldn't think of skitishvili in time) where you'd have big stiffs playing who weren't that good

Just worried that ingraham might be fraudulent just because he's vaguely Durant shaped

Doris Burke full time color commenting this year yes

She was entertaining on the Lowe pod, wkiw

These new dubs alternates are real good, I like them

join us Uniforms—Logos—Court Designs—Socks—Sneakers—Headbands—Mouthguards

Ingram looking better this game (against the suns tho)

Ingram Kuzma Nance and Ball ballin

lmao Suns D may end up being the worst in history

Suns Lakers was the best college game we're gonna get this year

Ricky coming home with a man bun like he's coming home after his first year of college lol

we'll always love u

De’Aaron Fox probably isn’t the fastest basketball player I’ve ever seen but I’ve never seen anyone run like him in NBA games. He’s like Randy Moss on a go route over and over.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, October 20, 2017 2:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark

yes

i do think john wall is the only comparable athlete to him rn in the league

Memphis is taking it to the Warriors right now.

so were the pels

the jazz meanwhile are clearly better than okc

so...the cavs are getting blown out at home by the magic

lol what is going on in cleveland

what the hell is going on tonight

turns out starting 3 minus defenders is a bad idea.

damn i thought okc was actually gonna have 25 points at halftime but they went on a run

westbrook almost airballed a free throw it just grazed the rim

Curry/KD ejected

lol threw his mouthpiece at the ref. warriors clearly treating the early part of the season as their preseason.

what if putting 2017 derrick rose and 2017 dwyane wade on your team is actually bad

i wonder if he can maintain this when kawhi gets back, but lma has had back to back 25+/10 nights. also rudy gay was your +/- leader of the night as a +18 in 23 minutes.

spurs doing spurs things

what if putting 2017 derrick rose and 2017 dwyane wade on your team is actually bad

― ciderpress, Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:29 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who could have forseen this

want to see a spurs-jazz playoff series full of 75-70 games

my analysis is that giannis is good or possibly even great at basketball

hes incredible his stats so far this season are unreal.

he had a mediocre game vs the celtics and ended with 30 points anyway

he just does whatever the hell he wants it's crazy, he can find a shot from anywhere

him eurostepping across the entire continent will never stop being amazing

giannis will be in the top 3 of mvp voting this year for sure

he just one-hand tossed in a floater from half-court after a whistle and then bricked two free throws

it helps when you do that

career high 44 pts

holy shit was he beasting after missing those FTs

that game-saving block was for real

giannis' dominance looks so natural

yeah that steal -> dunk -> block to save game was awesome

jokic 0-9-7 so far with a +21

Clutch steal ✔️
Clutch dunk ✔️
Clutch block ✔️

The Greek Freak is insane. pic.twitter.com/jgKNz5lc95

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) October 22, 2017

jeez Milos Teodosic just carried off the court w an ankle injury. looked like non contact :/

giannis took 142 steps before that dunk

i only count two after the gather

apparently his dad died a couple weeks ago of a heart attack, only 54

suns are an embarrassment. watsons gotta go

cavs lost to the magic? lol

suns have given up 124, 132, 130

I Dont wanna be here

— Eric Bledsoe (@EBled2) October 22, 2017

He just screwed the Suns too. Ruined his trade value.

wonder who needs eric bledsoe enough to move a late 1st rounder for him

clippers maybe

If milos is out...

Have to have an expiring to match with tho

good tweet btw, emotional

Could the nuggs make it work?

Lol very emo tweet yes

Prob sittin at church just thinkin bout things

even if milos is healthy and is a starting quality point guard, both of which are questionable bledsoe cld help fill their hole at the 2, austin rivers + a pick gets it done!

nuggs cld move faried, both he and rivers have another year on their deals tho as does bledsoe

chandler seems like someone the suns shd look into trading too

chandler is just pulling in those last few paychecks before hitting the beach

beverly/bledsoe backcourt wld b pretty sick imho

theres always a contender who thinks someone like chandler will put them over the top, even if he is over the hill

wld love to see beverly/bledsoe/jordan just get super swarmy on D, then blake and dano can do buckets

Chandlers contract is so bad tho

only $13m a/y for this season and next, thats practically the minimum these days lol

Watson fired

welp lol

seems like something was going on there

gasol for tyson straight up

actually suns wld have no reason to do that gasol + something for chandler

xp yeah extremely bad vibes

after zero coaches fired last year we have the earliest firing ever

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMxleG1XUBcjHeB.jpg

great minds

pic.twitter.com/CPWTYt69gY

— Drew Corrigan (@Dcorrigan50) October 22, 2017

Clippers guard Milos Teodosic suffered a plantar fascia injury in left foot and will be out indefinitely, league source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 22, 2017

Fultz is 8-23 from the field, 6-12 from FT and has not attempted a three pointer this season

nuggs cld move faried, both he and rivers have another year on their deals tho as does bledsoe

Bledsoe blowing up for the next team seems really likely to me

even if he just continues being his normal self, a guy who can defend normal positions handle the ball make plays score etc is the kind of guy a lot of teams shd be interested in

Faried and whatever for Bledsoe just checks so many boxes on the NBA internet to do list

Like Denver needs a point guard so bad and the internet has been waiting for them to trade for faried for ten years

Why does phx want him tho

Guys what if Bledsoe was just in a shitty haunted house or something though and were reading too much into it

I've been on the Giannis is gonna be MVP sooner than anyone expects train for a while now, he's a treat

nuggs cld move faried, both he and rivers have another year on their deals tho as does bledsoe

Mudiay and faried for Bledsoe?
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, October 22, 2017 8:07 PM (one hour ago)

would this be enough tho?

one wld think the suns wld be more interested in a pick than mudiay tho u never know

Maybe Zubac isn’t good but it seems really weird to me that they signed boguy and are giving Zubac no playing time

one wld think the suns wld be more interested in a pick than mudiay tho u never know

denver would clearly have to send a pick in that scenario as well.

a number of lakers rotation decisions seem p odd xp

faried mudiay and a first seems like abt as good a deal as the suns cld get they shd pull the trigger imo

yup