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Spottie, Friday, 12 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

listening to the Kyrie episode of JJ Redick's podcast and kyrie is a weirdo. anyway in a snippet of it JJ said the rim on one side of the court (at the England arena) was crooked. 76ers shot well in the first half and Boston in the 2nd half. idk thought that was interesting

Spottie, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

the minn broadcast team is good like everyone says. i actually learn stuff from those guys.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

yeah i like them. i like the pdx team as well.

Spottie, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

So my top pods are:

listen to every one p much
Lowe Post
Woj Pod
House of Strauss – New pod with Ethan Strauss and his wife Allie (some hoops but kind of all over the place)
JJ Redick
bill simmons when he has hoops talk
warriors plus/minus with tim kawakami and marcus thompson

listen to some but not all
The Ringer NBA show — with Network and those peeps
Talk Hoops with Zach Harper
Basketball Friends — Haberstroh and other people
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show — Ben Golliver & Andrew Sharp
The Hoop Collective — all kind of espn writers
RealGM Radio — Danny Leroux pod

Spottie, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link

i love the TBF guys. THC is a pretty pale imitation at this point.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

agree

Spottie, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

plz post juicy nuggs from podcasts in here plz thanks in advance

lag∞n, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link

actually we require that you listen to the full pods to be able to comment itt

Spottie, Friday, 12 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

rude!

lag∞n, Friday, 12 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

i love the basketball jones/the starters weekly pod, but I could understand if it is way too silly for some. Road trippin is occasionally entertaining. The Ringer's NBA pods should be much better than they are. Give Shea Serrano a podcast, simmons!

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 13 January 2018 04:50 (six years ago) link

I fully admit to watching the starters daily nba tv show most days please do not ban me

Clay, Saturday, 13 January 2018 05:13 (six years ago) link

lol those guys are living the life props to them for turning hoops fandom into a career. havent really listened to them since the TBJ days, I follow them all on twitter tho.

Spottie, Saturday, 13 January 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link

i can only (sporadically) get into the tv show around all-star game and playoffs, but yeah they are inspirations

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 13 January 2018 05:56 (six years ago) link

I mostly like the constant dunking on leigh ellis and his constant Dad ways

Clay, Saturday, 13 January 2018 06:04 (six years ago) link

bill simmons on Lowe's pod just released, im sure to discuss the Rox/Clips dramz

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link

it was p good. but they are mostly talking midseason awards or w/e. think lowe is going on simmons' pod tomorrow.

anyone watch the rachel nichols show the jump?

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

i'd like to but it's on at a time where i am never watching tv

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

yeah the timing is rough, i let it run in the background when im at work sometimes. p good. she gets good guests.

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 02:43 (six years ago) link

Chris Paul watched ASG last yr and didn’t like lack of competition... he hated seeing Steph have fun especially when he laid down on floor during game after Giannis dunk. From @BontaHill show with @sam_amick

— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) January 20, 2018

Spottie, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

Didn’t know cp was a “play the game the right way” truther . What a dork.

Spottie, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

lol cmon of course he is

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

How does kev stan for someone who hates fun so much?

Spottie, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

Windhorst
"Right now, the best place for Isaiah would be in the G-League...He's costing the Cavs games right now. It would be better if he was costing the Charge games."

fgti spinner (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

shd be standard to rehab in the minors after a big injury, players shd be into it, chance to get yr groove back in a low pressure situation

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

agree

fgti spinner (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

congrats to zach lowe for finally figuring out a workable hair situation.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2hol79e.jpg
also his new pod w woj man between the two of them is just way too much stuttering! both really dry basketball nerds does not make for an entertaining podcast.

fgti spinner (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 03:52 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

ESPN announced that they are expanding their Rachel Nichols hosted, The Jump, to one hour.

— Andrew Marchand (@AndrewMarchand) February 20, 2018

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link

Richard Jefferson on Simmons had a lot of great Cavs drama gossip

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link

gotta check that

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Ethan Strauss joining the Athletic might be enough to push me over the edge to sign up.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Hey nerds listen to the basketball movie podcast my sister has started doing w her friends

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/film-court/id1393865270?mt=2

devops mom (silby), Thursday, 5 July 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

Subd. I’ll check it out

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Thursday, 5 July 2018 05:32 (five years ago) link

Thanks; please thinkfluence all your friends so she becomes extremely successful.

devops mom (silby), Thursday, 5 July 2018 05:35 (five years ago) link

breens greatest calls

Mike Breen Greatest Calls: A Thread pic.twitter.com/BeehE5aItT

— Ike (@ManILoveOhio) July 16, 2018

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Monday, 16 July 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

cant wait for this show

“I still regret giving my 14-year-old my name.” - @KingJames

This and more real, unfiltered conversation with @OBJ_3, @mavcarter, and more in UNINTERRUPTED’s unscripted series THE SHOP.

First episode dropping 8/28, exclusively on @HBO. pic.twitter.com/zIoxEgBnJn

— UNINTERRUPTED (@uninterrupted) July 26, 2018

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Thursday, 26 July 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Shams leaving Yahoo for the Athletic.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

SVG joining ESPN

Our Andrew Marchand reporting Stan Van Gundy expected to join ESPN as studio analyst. Would love instead to see Mike Breen paired with the Brockport boys - Jeff and Stan https://t.co/tZQeTl3K3S

— Marc Berman (@NYPost_Berman) September 28, 2018

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 28 September 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

they gotta let those guys do a game together at some point.

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 September 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

For sure

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Saturday, 29 September 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

my fav hoops pod rn is brian windhorst's espn pod w/ the other espn basketball ppl. it's basically the old truehoop podcast but w/ all good/smart writers and no "personalities" like amin or the more talk radio-ish guys that used to be on the truehoop pods. windhorst is kind of a garbage writer but as a moderator of conversation he's good bcuz he is very very knowledgeable about the league.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

i listen to it cause brian is good but i actually hate the combinations of guests who rarely seem to have any chemistry. other than bontemps whose grumpiness i enjoy they can be a drag.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 March 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

it's a little worse now bcuz jackie macmullan is out... sometimes it's a weird crew. kirk goldsberry in partic is not very good.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link

yeah he's awful.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link

windy is cool enough. he knows a lot for sure, seems really plugged in. i havent listened to his pod recently ill get back into it. dude lacks any sense of humor tho.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link

windy has a sense of humor but like any good midwesterner it's extremely dry.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:05 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

espn shuffling nba countdown again:

SOURCES: BEADLE, PIERCE, BILLUPS OUT AT ESPN’S “COUNTDOWN”

only Jalen is staying on

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

i like chauncey, paul is awful obvs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

jalen, u cant fire jalen

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

chauncey is fine just boring. beadle seemed fine? idk the whole show needs to be re-thought. try something totally different.

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

that show is really and truly wretched... jalen actually is prob the only good one

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link

honestly i really enjoyed scott van pelt's coverage of game 5 on his special edition of sportscenter they should just give postgame to him

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link

beadle seemed really disengaged most of the time. none of them had any chemistry.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

agree. i love the final sportscenter with ScottVP. great format

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link

yeah its good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

players only is done.

Via sources: TNT will no longer air the Players Only NBA broadcast. Turner Sports will likely do some Players Only content but as far as games for the 2019-20 season, the Players Only broadcast on TNT is no more.

— Richard Deitsch (@richarddeitsch) July 24, 2019


also i think rick kamla has left nbatv/turner

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

a not-bad idea that was horribly executed.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

i did enjoy some players only broadcasts but when it was bad it was insufferable... they also did it too often. would've liked to see them tweak a bit but oh well

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

yah you both are otm. kinda wish they tried to hone it to a good spot and adapt it rather than dump it completely but the naysayers were pretty harsh on it from the start.

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

i think they'd just need to be more selective about the scheduling... it was a cool vibe for those middle of the season thursday night west coast TNT games that are like blazers vs rockets or whatever. but sometimes they'd get a good game where you actually wanna hear real announcers and it would be like, why'd anyone think this was a good idea

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

by good game i mean big game

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

yeah there was one where there was some crazy shotmaking going on between two good teams and i think on a big go ahead bucket greg anthony was like "well that was a really nice look there ... well executed" or some monotone platitude and all i wanted was a breen BAAAAANG or w/e

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link

yup all otm

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

Matt Barnes is the future imo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

barnes is good breaking down the game and what not from the little postgame and The Jump clips ive seen but not sure about entertaining for a 2.5 hour broadcast. its really a hard skill, even the best at it get bad after a while (van gundy).

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

an idea for players only would be to rotate different guys in and out like a quarter at a time or something

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:34 (four years ago) link

Players only being gone is good but questionable stuff is going on. They got rid of The Starters, Kamla gone. Seems like cost cutting for no reason.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link

yeah wonder what their plan is, if anything

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

Ros and Fratello out at nba/tnt

big city slam (Spottie), Saturday, 27 July 2019 05:36 (four years ago) link

Fitz as Hannity I’m guessing because on his (recently canceled) radio show he would defend literally everything the warriors org did and would just really go over the top praising Myers/Jacobs/Kerr etc

brimstead, Monday, 29 July 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

oh duh i totally read matts post wrong thought he was talking about jim barnett. fitz is a goof yeah.

big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

Main issue with Fitz on KNBR is that they lost the Warriors rights to 95.7, so it was less of a natural fit having him on the network. Radnich "retiring" plus Greg Papa moving over just made it a good time for housecleaning. They absorbed Fitz's co-host Rob Brooks into Tom Tolbert's show, which has been pretty bad so far.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

Rod* Brooks

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

yeah I was irrationally bummed by the knbr shakeup

brimstead, Monday, 29 July 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Russillo leaving ESPN for the Ringer

So...the news is out. I’m headed to @ringer
Want to thank @espn for the last 14 years.
I grew up on @SportsCenter and then to be on the actual set, my name on a show...have to remind myself at times how cool that is
Excited to try and limit Celts talk to 30mins w/ @BillSimmons

— Russillo (@ryenarussillo) August 6, 2019

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

he didn't already work for the ringer?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link

he did dual duty but now it seems he’s going to be exclusive to the ringer

I like russillo a lot, he’s a pretty independent thinker, does his homework, and is funny. he’s always right on the edge of being arrogant and being in on the joke. he’s either a thoughtful meathead or the reverse, can’t really tell for sure

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

love him yeah. he's the best bill guest for sure, they are pretty in sync when they do their pod

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link

him or lowe yeah

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

yeah Lowe is only like once or twice a year tho

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link

i didn't know him before but i've grown to really like him over the course of his appearances on bill's pod....his sense of humor is very dry and weird and mostly based on really subtle and quick meta jokes about being a media talking head. he's also good on actual sports. i don't always agree with his nba takes but he definitely comes to them from an authentic place.

he did this bit on bill's pod a couple months ago about his worst year ever and it was just him factually describing shitty things happening to him as a broke and directionless dude in his 20s. it was so good it was almost poetic.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link

yeah the 2002 rant was so good. I was in hermosa/Manhattan beach last week and was hoping id run into him roller blading or something lol.

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link

omg i just found it again, the part where he proposes to his elementary school teacher gf at the school in front of children and she says no is classic material

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link

sometimes he and bill get a liiiittle too bro-y for me... but as far as basketball goes he def knows his shit

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link

one thing i do hate about them is they have this tic where they refer to anything as "the [x] thing" ... "and then the brogdon thing happened" "are we gonna talk about the griffin thing" and sometimes they'll just refer to a "thing" esp from the past where you're like wait that's a thing? i really hate it

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link

haha they def overdo the "thing" thing

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:35 (four years ago) link

hope they dont oversaturate and only do like once every few weeks or something (probably wont happen)

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link

bill misses a lot of his jokes I think

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

KG's Area 21 cancelled.

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

lotta restlessness with nba broadcasts this offseason

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

for the starters heads: https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/the-starters-join-the-athletic.html

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 04:33 (four years ago) link

nice for those dudes. athletic always seemed like a good fit.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

Dwyane Wade has signed a wide-ranging multiyear deal with WarnerMedia. He'll be a TNT NBA analyst, do studio appearances for Turner/CBS at the Final Four, work on projects for Bleacher Report - and his production company, 59th & Prairie, got a development deal for new content.

— Tim Reynolds (@ByTimReynolds) October 22, 2019

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link

trophy husband trying to be useful around the house

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

lol he's going to be insanely boring

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

wade def often has some sleepy stoner vibes onscreen idk how that'll really work

Clay, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

yeah im not sold

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

I agree. But Jalen was similar yet morphed into a good media personality.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link

he's just never going to say anything interesting. i never heard him say anything interesting for however long he was playing.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

yeah he's famous and will continue to be famous independent of basketball so it's not surprising that the TV networks would be after him even tho cad is 100% right

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

wade as a tv personality will be like webber on quaaludes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:26 (four years ago) link

c webb is cool tho, he doesn't say much but he has a good vibe. wade is cheesy

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

CWebb just needs a new partner

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link

a lot of players doing pods now, anyone listening regularly to any?

_ Knuckleheads with Q Rich and Darius Miles is pretty fun but they are kinda boring, got some big guests like KD, Kobe and Wade
_ Matt Barnes and Stack Jack got one on showtime called All the Smoke. I like it so far, the JR smith one was pretty good
_ Road trippin with Channing and R Jeff - havent listened cos r jeff is a warriors h8r
_ JJ reddick one is pretty good
_ Winging it with Vince and Baze heard one it was fine

idk any more?

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

one w current players talking about the recent games theyd played / basketball thoughts on other teams games wld be cool

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

I can't listen to Q Rich cause friend went to school with him and I've heard several stories about what an asshole handsy jerk he was

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

fair

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

You can tell JJ wants to be Professional Media Guy. Haven't listened to it in awhile but ya can be p good.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

sure he will be on tv upon retirement (after this season prob)

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

is JJ the most successful white guy duke failson

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

probably yeah

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

i really like jared dudley on everything i hear him do. he breaks things down but also has grounded opinions and doesnt seem scared to rustle some feathers. im sure he'll have a voice in the media post retirement

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

jj's transformation from duke superstar who writes poetry about how hard it is to have haters into well liked low key nba role player is pretty stunning tbf

lag∞n, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

dude turned into the best hired gun in the league somehow. figured out just enough defense to be able to stay on the floor with any lineup. he looks pretty bad this year so far tho so it may be nearing the end of the line

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

it must suck to have millions of ppl continue to judge you for how you were when you were 20. not just speaking about JJ but pro atheletes in general.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

My memory of redick was that the defense was good by year 2 because the offense was struggling and he needed to compensate.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

imo he’s a classic example of a guy who does everything pretty well and one thing very well

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

also has a great motor cool with just running around the whole game. he's a master of off-balance shooting, feel like he shoots as good fading to his right as he does completely set

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

he also got into sick shape, has to be one of the best-conditioned guys nowadays. for a guy who was wildly entitled and overrated coming out of school i give him credit for figuring out what he needed to change to stick in the nba and making it happen.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

got over my Q Rich dislike...Knuckleheads is really good

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

someone like Durant comes off much differently (ie better) with them 2 than any other interview I've heard

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

got over my Q Rich dislike...Knuckleheads is really good


Have they said what the knuckles meant yet

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

iirc in an article from like last year miles said they stole it from a LA high school team and before that theyve said it was a pulling yr antenna out gesture ie having high awareness

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

I loved that clippers team btw

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

That was the first clippers team that made people really think things could change there. Obviously the Elton Brand teams fulfilled it.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

nah that would be the early 90's teams with Manning imo , they made it to the playoffs for the first time in LA two years in a row.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

Yeah but those teams had larry brown coaching, that doesn’t count. The bobcats made the playoffs with Larry brown.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

true! we were hyped for them though and went to a bunch of games those years . it was fun.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

big draw of course was those tickets were cheap and we couldn't really afford to go The Forum much.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

I like the podcast the guys from The Starters do for the Athletic, No Dunks. You may need a subscription for it

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

idk dunks are good imo

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

you don't need an athletic subscription for those pods. they're good but it's a little too much content every day, I'm listening to 2-3 a week

jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

They cut loose more than they did on tv and also make fun of each other more

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 21 November 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

yeah I always liked their podcasts way more than the tv show, they're much better at shooting the shit than fitting into the rigid sports TV format

jesus is zing (symsymsym), Thursday, 21 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

I really like Drew Gooden on the wizards broadcast team. Great voice, easy-going homerism.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

wade on the all the smoke pod talking about parenting his kids is powerful stuff
https://youtu.be/qqwBZqndDUg
about 30 min in

championship winning vibration (Spottie), Friday, 27 December 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

Looking forward to listening to this, I just got hip to this pod and it’s great, lmfao when Jax was talking about how JJ Redick got him to start wearing classier watches and Barnes says “He respectfully shitted on your watch.”

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 04:59 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

one thing i do hate about them is they have this tic where they refer to anything as "the (x) thing" ... "and then the brogdon thing happened" "are we gonna talk about the griffin thing" and sometimes they'll just refer to a "thing" esp from the past where you're like wait that's a thing? i really hate it

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 5, 2019 bookmarkflaglink

This stands out to me SO much more now since you posted this. lmao youve almost ruined them for me.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

look it's hard for me to listen to it myself

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 February 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link

I’m surprised no one has brought this to their attention. It would be fine on occasion but it’s become like an every topic filler word

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link

This has probably been discussed upthread but the scourge of referring to players by their first names has to stop. Exceptions obv for guys with cool or iconic names like Zion or Lebron or Luka but foh with referring to Simmons as Ben or Harden as James like they’re your buddies

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:56 (four years ago) link

I’m surprised no one has brought this to their attention. It would be fine on occasion but it’s become like an every topic filler word

― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:53 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm pretty sure russillo is aware that he does this. it's of a piece with his meta approach to talking about sports.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 February 2020 03:01 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

listened to JR Rider episode of All The Smoke and was like man I think I've been confusing JR Rider & Isaiah Rider my whole life. Googled him and discovered the shocking truth...

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 April 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link

lol

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Friday, 17 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5YvonzEDfQ

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 17 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

lol granny

Spottie, Friday, 17 April 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

I hope this doesn't sound condescending or like I'm playing into gender stereotypes but I really enjoyed hearing Jackie MacMullan talk about MJ on Zack Lowe's podcast and provide a feminine perspective. "You're a details guy, Zack, I'm all about the emotional experience". It does get a bit old to hear nothing but men give their takes on NBA past & present, which as a whole pay very little attention to emotional, personal, family history, etc matters.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link

she also had some good "bball breakdown" type nuggets, such as how Dennis Johnson was the 1st person who pointed out to her some of the things MJ was doing on defense

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Chris Webber reportedly may be done at Turner after 2020-21 NBA season https://t.co/YGjFUSDdix pic.twitter.com/J7O6AeorjM

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) May 7, 2021

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 7 May 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

lol my first thought

Webber isn’t very popular with viewers, which is often indicated by “Chris Webber” being a trending topic on Twitter on the nights he’s calling a game.

lag∞n, Friday, 7 May 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

the time has certainly come...

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

now do marv.

unfortunately article mentions pierce and jefferson as possible replacements

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2021 23:14 (three years ago) link

nooooo c webb come back

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

perk got extended at espn today too. i guess they just want the loudest most clownish dudes out there.

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link

Overdue but end of an era

A legendary career 👏

Hall of Fame broadcaster Marv Albert announces his retirement following TNT’s coverage of 2021 NBA Eastern Conference Finals. pic.twitter.com/2UyTfaG53y

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) May 17, 2021

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 17 May 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

his long second act should never have happened.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 May 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

correct

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

my god marv is wearing a lot of makeup in the picture in that tweet

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link

The @nytimes in talks to buy @TheAthletic
— Sources say NYT approached The Athletic following a @BenMullin report about a potential deal between The Athletic & Axios
— The Athletic has roughly 1.2m subscribers, a number of which on discounted rate planshttps://t.co/mlNJZ9VCwu

— Sara Fischer (@sarafischer) May 25, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

ok will my nyt subscription work then lol

k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 May 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

will https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome work tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

ooh thx

k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

essential extension

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

it would be nice if there was one for a REAL BROWSER

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

there is a firefox one

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

withdrawn

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

feels like draymond is being groomed for the inside the NBA desk after he retires, thankfully he's very good at it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link

Yah he’s a natural

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 05:30 (three years ago) link

athletic had a long piece about that iirc, he's absolutely gonna be chuck's replacement

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

dray needs to study chuck for how to get the takes off in a smooth manner, right now he just says a bunch of off the wall shit looking for applause, hes a lil more shaq than chuck tbf

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

i dont think hes said anythign off the wall? that one booker thing but he was trying to get him to come to gs.

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

he did something out there a while ago that "got people talking" trying to remember what it was

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

he def has to grow as a personality and a thinker but conversing on camera for TV seems to come natural to him

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

yeah i dont think its fair to judge him at this point hes just moonlighting, setting him up to replace chuck also prob not fair

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

lol i mean look when chucks gonna fire one off he goes real low key

"I call him Anthony 'Street Clothes' Davis because he's always in street clothes"

Chuck has a nickname for AD 😅

(via @NBAonTNT) pic.twitter.com/Q2VkI5CwTh

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) June 2, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

lmao i was dying at that last night. inside is so much better during the playoffs

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

just a master class, no one wanted to ask him what he was talking about but they were already in too deep

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

the grim resignation from ernie that he’s the one they pay to ask such questions

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

lol yes

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

replacing chuck is probably an impossible job bcuz he created an entirely new role for an ex-player analyst that doesn't really feel repeatable, like threading this needle where your opinion is respected across the nba but also the whole shtick around you on TV is that you don't watch the games. it just seems like he's the only one that can really pull that off. draymond will have to figure out his own personality.

but i do think he brings his basketball intellect to the broadcasts in a real way, in the discussion on inside tonight about sixers-hawks he brought up how embiid was going to be able defend pick and rolls w/ his knee injury. it really felt like a good fusion between draymond the elite defender and draymond the announcer, whereas shaq was just, like, braying about how the hawks were going to win the series w/o raising any sort of intellectual point about the play

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 June 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link

chuck is a regular at an expensive hotel bar in manhattan where a friend of mine works and she's struck up a bit of a friendship with him. she says he's a genuinely nice person who asks about her family, keeps track of the threads of their lives etc.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:15 (three years ago) link

like threading this needle where your opinion is respected across the nba but also the whole shtick around you on TV is that you don't watch the games. it just seems like he's the only one that can really pull that off.

do you really think chuck’s opinion is “respected across the NBA” in 2021?

k3vin k., Friday, 4 June 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link

chuck is a regular at an expensive hotel bar in manhattan where a friend of mine works and she's struck up a bit of a friendship with him. she says he's a genuinely nice person who asks about her family, keeps track of the threads of their lives etc.

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:15 AM (thirteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is cool btw and tracks with everything i've ever heard about the guy off-camera.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 June 2021 03:03 (three years ago) link

Yah phx folks have nothing but good to say about random encounters w him.

Spottie, Friday, 4 June 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Jackie MacMullan, one of the most accomplished & respected journalists in sports, will retire from ESPN at the end of the month

Jackie appears Wednesday at 3p ET on #TheJump

Her final ESPN appearance is Tues, Aug. 31 on @AroundtheHorn

Thank you, Jackie!https://t.co/bI5gJJVCad pic.twitter.com/STfsIU5Uqk

— ESPN PR (@ESPNPR) August 18, 2021

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

sorta weird how she stopped going on ESPN basketball podcasts and started doing a bunch of appearances on bill simmons podcast, i feel like something happened there. i feel like the wording about how she's retiring "from ESPN" isn't necessarily accidental

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

she said some quasi racist shit about kyrie a few months back right

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

yeah, that was on bill's pod tho. she got pushed out of the rotation on windhorst's pod for whatever reason, can't remember the last time she went on lowe's pod either. maybe ESPN just told her they didn't want her on podcasts anymore and gave her the green light to be on bill's all the time

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

ah yeah maybe espn was just done with her and let her ~retire~ out of deference rather than fire her

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

i don't think there's any ill will--my guess is that she was planning to wind down her espn obligations and they wanted to highlight some other folks on windhorst's pod.

you can see it today in all the twitter tributes--jackie is pretty universally beloved and not a troublemaker.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

I missed the controversy — thought she was mostly solid tho otherwise

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 August 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

"this is cool btw and tracks with everything i've ever heard about the guy off-camera."

My ex coworker is Chuck's 2nd cousin and says he was always a jackass at family functions.
She also went to high school with Quentin Richardson and said he was a stuck up asshole.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

conflicting reports!

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link

well people do mature. i imagine chuck was absolute hell on wheels when he was a teenager.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

also not unheard of to be cool to strangers and a jackass to your family.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

He comes across as very likeable and wayyyy more thoughtful in his autobiography vs his TV personality.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

there are many stories of chuck being a jackass to strangers too tbf, i would like for the record to state that i do not care but these are the facts

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

do i need to tell my charles barkley story for the 100th time

Clay, Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link

yes

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 August 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link

My dad was having dinner on the riverwalk in San Antonio once and saw a heavily intoxicated Sir Charles being carried by two people

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

Reports that Max Kellerman is going to be out on First Take, leaving Stephen A as solo host

Don't feel strongly about Kellerman but the way ESPN is quadrupling down on being the Stephen A Smith network is demented

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

hes just about the only draw they have any more

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

stephen a kicks ass but also if you're watching ESPN at like 10 am or whatever time that show is on there's bigger issues at play

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

kellerman seems like the one guy out there in the espn cinematic universe who consistently produces actually good controversial takes

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

I always liked Kellerman, seemed like a good guy to keep Stephen A. in check

stephen a kicks ass but also if you're watching ESPN at like 10 am or whatever time that show is on there's bigger issues at play

that's when I work out usually which is pretty much the only time I watch ESPN. I assume this is like half their viewership.

I like Stephen A Smith but he's also kind of a moron. he's an incredible showman though

frogbs, Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

do i need to tell my charles barkley story for the 100th time

― Clay, Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yes

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, August 19, 2021 2:08 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

back in the mid-90's when ballboys were still *children* and not, like, college kids, i spent a season as a ballboy for the blazers, i was probably 14 or so? i worked maybe a quarter of the games that year, sitting under the hoop, mopping up sweat for the players and whatever other little duties we had. a truly wonderful thing to get to do when you're a kid who worships basketball players! rebounding and passing the ball to THE GUYS in pregame and at the half! getting yelled at constantly!

anyways, i think this was a year or two after chuck won MVP, 94-95. the suns are in portland and someone is shooting a free throw and i'm on the right side of the hoop, and in first rebounding position next to me is ol' chuckster. I'm staring off into the middle distance and daydreaming, as i still do too often when i should be paying attention to my surroundings, and i eventually realize someone is trying to get my attention. it's barkley, he's almost waving at me now. "HEY, KID, GIMME A TOWEL." I do the "who, me?" gesture and he says "YEAH YOU, THE UGLY ONE, THROW ME A TOWEL". so i throw this man, a living legend, a towel, and he wipes his disgusting dripping head clean of sweat and then tosses it back to me and says "THANKS STUPID, THANK UGLY. PSSSH."

https://www.landofbasketball.com/box_scores/1995/0409PHXPOR.htm
^ i think it was this game but not 100% positive

Clay, Thursday, 19 August 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link

lmao how do i not remember this story????

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link

back in the mid-90's... i was probably 14 or so?

(silently calculates Clay's age)

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

pretty sure ive said this before but we need to track down some clay game footage

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

Yah that’s a good story must secure footage

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link

aimless if you do the simple math there it comes out to 22 years old, probably should have said that in the first place

Clay, Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link

a fun addendum to the story is that around 2011 or so this woman i had been dating for many years was working catering for some events group and ended up waiting on at a table near barkley's at a charity function. according to her story, he tried to flag her down for a drink refill and she told him she could not refill his drink because he wasn't in her section, and furthermore she would not because he called her boyfriend (that was me) ugly when he was a teenager. barkely responded "probably because he was ugly!" and then hit on her in a really gross fashion (ten years ago was a different time!)

Clay, Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link

I detect a stubborn insistence that you are not ugly, despite Chuck's eyewitness testimony!

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 20 August 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

sir charles was right, as usual!

Clay, Friday, 20 August 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link

barkley's go-to insult for women and children is "ugly"

tbf it is a classic

lag∞n, Friday, 20 August 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

He meant your soul

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 20 August 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

pod listeners should check out windhorst's interview with the guy who wrote the new book about KD, kyrie, and the nets. i'm definitely picking that book up now.

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 August 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

there was an interesting discussion on — i believe — the most recent hollinger & duncan podcast about summer league from the front office perspective, how/why teams get put together etc. first 15-20 mins or so of the episode, i thought it was interesting

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 August 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

xp nice, ill check it. also the draymond sit down with KD was cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6DjeJNd64

pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 20 August 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

xp yeah i enjoyed that summer league roster construction discussion, very educational

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 August 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

to revisit the jackie talk above, she went on simmons pod and explained her retiring. she was one year into a three-year contract but between wanting to have time to care for aging parents and feeling like doing longform writing was getting harder while also being deemphasized by her employer, she was just kind of done.

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 August 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link

the whole simmons angle vis a vis ESPN didn’t feel accidental to me, at least on his side

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 August 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

strauss is leaving the athletic to maybe not talk about the nba anymore?

https://houseofstrauss.substack.com/p/the-fleshy-part-of-the-thigh?r=11111&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter

i kinda feel that middle part

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

another step on the path to going fully right wing

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 August 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

yeah he might, he's always straddled the fence. maybe he joins up with bogut or something

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

can't wait to not pay for it lol

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 August 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

otm

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

always been wack and annoying

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 August 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

i thought he did some interesting stuff as a nerdy oddball beat writer, i like him much much less in his current form

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 August 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

the fact that he would admit to several ppl telling him “you’re the type of person who could reasonably say something stupid and get fired for it” …. why would you say this publicly

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 August 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

yah that part was dumb, the whole opening was dumb

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

"You got a dude, Ethan Strauss, who comes in here and just gives his whole opinion on stuff, and makes it seem like it's coming from me.."

Kevin Durant’s press conference, forcefully pushing back against the Knicks rumor and the media’s treatment of him pic.twitter.com/aqqbK7APh2

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) February 7, 2019

kd roasting him is still one of the highlights from that weird kd season.

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

i'm glad for his wide and child that he isn't sociopathic enough to do light racism to get fired from his job though i take him seriously that he absolutely thought about it

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 August 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

*wife

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 August 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

TIL that ethan has been on jesse singals podcast to talk about wokeness ruining sports!

i thought this would be coming in a year or two, delighted that we are ahead of schedule.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:00 (two years ago) link

lol wasted NO time

pure rim rest (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

people think the right wing grift is easy, and i mean it is but also theres a ton of churn, if i had a solid sportswriting job id stick with that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link

wow this is big!

Breaking News: @espn takes Rachel Nichols off @NBA programming

ESPN has taken Rachel Nichols off of all NBA programming and will cancel her weekday afternoon show “The Jump,” the network confirmed today.

Read the story: https://t.co/NP6wtWVL9h pic.twitter.com/0254ayg667

— Sports Business Journal (@sbjsbd) August 25, 2021

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

yikes! so they're basically firing her w/o firing her

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

Nichols has a year remaining on her contract and will still be paid, but won't be on-air.

— Andrew Marchand (@AndrewMarchand) August 25, 2021



damn son

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

wow. does she have other transgressions besides getting caught on a hot mic whining about someone getting an assignment over her? that has already sort of blown over, i thought?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

leave it to espn to handle this in the stupidest way possible

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

the surprising part here to me is cancelling the jump at the same time, i thought it was pretty well-regarded.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

i liked it for a time but way too much perk in recent months

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

wow. does she have other transgressions besides getting caught on a hot mic whining about someone getting an assignment over her? that has already sort of blown over, i thought?

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:50 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

nothing public that i know of

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

Got to create a whole show and spend five years hanging out with some of my favorite people ❤️ talking about one my favorite things 🏀 An eternal thank you to our amazing producers & crew - The Jump was never built to last forever but it sure was fun. 😎
More to come… pic.twitter.com/FPMFRlfJin

— Rachel Nichols (@Rachel__Nichols) August 25, 2021

maybe she goes back to NFL coverage for a bit?

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

kill me

NEWS: Stephen A. Smith wants to team up with Magic Johnson on ESPN, The Post has learned.https://t.co/w3vQSzOACR

— Andrew Marchand (@AndrewMarchand) August 26, 2021

call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

haha noooo

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

i think stephen a. is just looking for the ultimate challenge. trying to imagine cutting to the classic brand of stephen a. reaction shots after one of magic's non-takes. unintentional comedy of the kind i never want to see

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

in reading the article i guess the new head of nba content (the last one got bounced over the taylor/nichols thing) is tight with stephen a. and stephen a. is currently the network's biggest star, so it sure sounds like this is going to happen.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

we already know how bad magic was at this why bring him back in

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

ESPN will launch 'NBA Today' - a new @ESPNNBA studio show - Monday, Oct. 18

Hosted by @malika_andrews with @KendrickPerkins, @mrvincecarter15, @chiney, @ZachLowe_NBA, @wojespn & @ramonashelburne

Mon-Fri | 3p ET | ESPN

*Debut episode to air on ESPN2*https://t.co/79uhFW5Wh3 pic.twitter.com/F5l6iQs34d

— ESPN PR (@ESPNPR) September 20, 2021

a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

kendrick woj lowe is a pretty wildly divergent cast

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Excited to announce I’m joining @espn as an NBA analyst! Let’s go!!! https://t.co/3SiZGO3I19

— JJ Redick (@jj_redick) October 27, 2021

It's the Final Cluntdiwn (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

the tony romo we deserve

Clay, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Welcome to the Turner Sports family, @money23green!

The 3x NBA champ will contribute to Inside the NBA as an active player in a first-of-its-kind deal 👏🏿 pic.twitter.com/wXdIkq1ao2

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) January 27, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 27 January 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link

here for this

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 January 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link

yeh hes real good at it

Spottie, Thursday, 27 January 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

yes!!!!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link

nice

was listening to lowe’s pod today and he shared that his mom had a stroke and isn’t doing well :(

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2022 00:54 (two years ago) link

Oh hell that sucks

Spottie, Friday, 28 January 2022 00:59 (two years ago) link

i thought zach’s feed had been quiet recently. sometimes i want to clown him for having gotten a little cartoonish but he’s a good guy. i hope things improve.

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 January 2022 01:09 (two years ago) link

i had no idea candace parker came out in december, has been married for two years to a russian hooper, with a baby on the way - she is the best

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

probably the best lady vol ever, and maybe the greatest woman’s player period?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

lmao what a tool

What a fun NBA off-day in Miami. But we didn’t get Elon’s Finals prediction. pic.twitter.com/ruJQmDv7B2

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) May 17, 2022

Thanks. I can’t imagine disliking someone who runs companies that employ some of the smartest and hardest-working people in the world creating tech that can make life better, safer, more efficient. And more fun. But to each their own. You do you too

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) May 17, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 12:48 (two years ago) link

big elon guy huh

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

clown shit

sure did.

my logic is clear: i'm not complaining if i get a *really* good player, even if someone drafted later turns out better.

i grew up in houston. no one ever said "should've taken jordan." ayton ain't olajuwon, but luka ain't mike, so i think the analogy holds. https://t.co/z2JHzdq87G

— bomani (@bomani_jones) May 16, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

hahah that's really dumb

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 15:07 (two years ago) link

bomani is incapable of admitting hes wrong

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

correct

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link

I generally don't follow the drafts, was Ayton considered a bad pick at the time?

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:40 (two years ago) link

he was the consensus top pick m/l but with a ton of the more informed people saying hey you might want to check out this kid who won the euroleague mvp at 19

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link

the really crazy pick was bagley at 2

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

tho when you consider the ancient balkan blood feud aspect it starts to make sense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:50 (two years ago) link

there was lots of talking head types being like "well you can't pass up a 7 footer this skilled!" ayton also put up legit good stats at arizona, and there was the local angle, he seemed like a pretty safe pick (which has turned out to be true) and because luka was not in our faces the way american prospects are where lots of ppl feel like they have informed opinions i think the feeling was mostly "hey can't blame them for picking ayton." i don't remember there being tons of prominent voices being like "this will be a disastrous decision that the suns will regret for decades." people *did* say that about the kings and the hawks, but i think ayton seemed like "modern" enough of a center that the suns generally were given a pass pretty much up until two days ago

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link

it was a classic example of picking fit over best player available. the suns had book so they needed to pair him w a center. it is interesting to think about booker and luka on the court together. seems like a match made in heaven, booker is better off ball.

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:55 (two years ago) link

the really crazy pick was bagley at 2

― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 5:47 PM (five minutes ago)

if i'm not mistaken it seemed like they were insulted by whatever interactions they were having w/ luka and perhaps some of the other top guys and really gravitated towards bagley because he told the kings he would be excited to be picked by them. which turned out to be a career killing decision for him, but the kings never seemed to stop and think like "maybe this guy is happy to get picked by us because nobody else in their right minds would draft him number 2."

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

reportedly divac also doesnt like lukas dad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link

it was a classic example of picking fit over best player available. the suns had book so they needed to pair him w a center. it is interesting to think about booker and luka on the court together. seems like a match made in heaven, booker is better off ball.

― Spottie, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 5:55 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ppl saying they shdnt take luka cause they already have a dribbling scorer was wild as if its not ok to have two of those guys

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

i wanna say there was a number of guys in that draft who refused to work out for the kings, shit like that. bagley was the guy who was like "i would LOVE to be drafted number 2 overall even if it's by the kings!"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

same tbh

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

ppl saying they shdnt take luka cause they already have a dribbling scorer was wild as if its not ok to have two of those guys

― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 3:02 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hey you know what the suns couldve used in the 2022 playoffs...

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

i bet they woulda rather had brunson than ayton in that series

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

this kid who won the euroleague mvp at 19

― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 5:46 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

what an insane accomplishment btw way more impressive than say winning the ncaa player of the year as a freshman a thing thats only happened three times (kd, ad, zion) (tho obvs its gone from unheard of to merely unusual during the one and done era)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link

luka's euroleague stats as a teenager were miles better than the euroleague stats of guys who became very solid nba pros

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:34 (two years ago) link

a guy like nikola mirotic was putting up numbers half as good at age 24 that luka was at 18

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:35 (two years ago) link

yeah it actually makes for a more stable projection than college. teams just invented reasons not to draft him, didn’t think he was athletic enough, stuff like that. really should’ve been one of the easiest picks in draft history. again i give the mavs front office a lot of credit for betting on luka to the tune of 2 first round picks when everyone else around them didn’t even wanna draft him period. and of course 2 first round picks for luka now looks like one of the heists of the century, i don’t think you could legally trade enough first round picks to even acquire luka at this point, i think he’s quite literally untradeable. i have no idea what you could even come up with to give the mavs to even make them consider trading him.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link

that’s the thing. with a lot of euro prospects, you’re projecting future production from young guys who barely see the floor but doncic was just as young as many of those highly-drafted projects and he was the literal mvp

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lmao

What is happening here?@kendrickperkins brought the handcuffs out for the Warriors’ performance and @mollyqerim and @stephenasmith were quite thrown off 😂 pic.twitter.com/fOcZVTaTFb

— First Take (@FirstTake) June 3, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 June 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link

I saw a lot of screen shots of that outfit on the timeline today and was too afraid to hit play on any of the videos

Spottie, Saturday, 4 June 2022 03:36 (two years ago) link

it was very funny. i love perkins

sneaking suspicion alcatraz paid him under the table for it but i guess it’s all in the game

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 4 June 2022 07:47 (two years ago) link

BRIAN WINDHORST: Steph has not yet been great. Steph could easily put up fifty or sixty three-poi--
TIM BONTEMPS: I will kill you. I swear to fucking god I will fucking kill you.
TIM MCMAHON: Now hold on. Let this stupid dipshit finish his dumbass point for idiots.

— Patrick Cosmos (@veryimportant) June 14, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link

i love them

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link

haha that is the exact dynamic

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

Lmao

Spottie, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link

hahaha

k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 June 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link

I'm waiting for when Draymond does his podcast at halftime.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 03:54 (two years ago) link

fuck that, go live during the game

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 04:33 (two years ago) link

strap on a gopro and see if the refs say anything

circles, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 04:44 (two years ago) link

"THIS BLOCK WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE GOOD FOLKS AT MAILCHIMP"

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 04:45 (two years ago) link

Can’t think of many worse at this than Broussard

Who says no to this trade scenario? 🤔

Nets receive:
⚫ Jimmy Butler
⚫ Bam Adebayo

Heat receive:
🔴 Kyrie Irving
🔴 Ben Simmonspic.twitter.com/yjgSvvCr2i

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) June 25, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 25 June 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

i say no, personally

Clay, Saturday, 25 June 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link

I clicked on this just to see what my guy Brian was saying and two minutes later I’m consumed by the question of what’s going on with the Utah Jazz. It’s my only quest in life to find out. This is perfect television. https://t.co/Cf4mDdo22E

— Kevin Clark (@bykevinclark) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

^^^as good as advertised

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

masterful

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

danny bout to blow it up over there, extremely believable

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

ngl i had to read the comments to understand wtf he was talking about

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

lmao agatha christie ass basketball reporting

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

hahah otm

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

lmao

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

here for it tbh

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

exquisite television

Clay, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

that windhorst clip is incredible and he was otm!

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

windy is otm quite often

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

i know ESPN did not just do an entire segment based on a ja morant “quote” from ballsack sports 😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/UqihKpMddW

— Molly Morrison (@mollyhannahm) July 11, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 11 July 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jonathantjarks/journal/view/id/63118e310f3ef0104cd375ed

Not a good update from Jonathan Tjarks, now in hospice care.

Jeff, Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

god that is awful

J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

jesus christ. i feel awful for his family.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

Ugh man that’s horrible

Spottie, Saturday, 3 September 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

dammit

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 September 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

anybody watch the untold episode about tim donaghy?

Spottie, Monday, 5 September 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

tjarks news is so sad

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 September 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

he passed away last night. what a terrible, terrible thing.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

So sad

Spottie, Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

RIP. Ringer NBA pods were never my fav but Tjarks always seemed like a solid dude.

Jeff, Sunday, 11 September 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Showtime Sports has announced that veteran journalist and NBA personality Rachel Nichols is joining Showtime Basketball as both a host and producer. pic.twitter.com/wREJgdi2N5

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 30, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 30 September 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

zach lowe did his annual “5 most confusing teams” pod w/ howard beck instead of kevin arnovitz, which sent a red flag up in the air for me. i searched on twitter and apparently last week zach mentioned on a pod that arnovitz is “no longer here” to do the pod, which most ppl are taking to mean he has left ESPN. his twitter account says he still works there but all his tweets have been wiped and his bio says the account is “inactive.” it looks like he last wrote something for them in august about the soccer team ryan reynolds owns. i’m now more confused & curious than i was before. i really liked him

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 06:02 (one year ago) link

Reddit seems to think he is leaving the NBA journo world to write about TV. I guess he’s already had a Top Chef podcast with Tom Haberstroh(?!)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 3 October 2022 10:58 (one year ago) link

I like Arnovitz too. Howard Beck and Ben Golliver are among my least favorite NBA podcasters, hate when they show up as guests on shows I like.

Jeff, Monday, 3 October 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link

the tweets being wiped is new but his bio has had that inactive note for a long time bc he stopped using twitter.

it did seem like his piece and pod appearances were starting to decrease in frequency so he’s probably done there. i liked a lot of his stuff but it was a remnant of the truehoop era of espn’s nba coverage for better or worse.

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 October 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

arnovitz was great, too bad

k3vin k., Monday, 3 October 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Reddit seems to think he is leaving the NBA journo world to write about TV.

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, October 3, 2022 6:58 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

fwiw it says for tv

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/xqz03h/what_happened_to_kevin_arnovitz/

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

ah good for him if he’s doing TV writing. he seemed far more cultured (gay) (LA) than his colleagues so that scans. will miss him on the pods tho i always enjoyed his perspective

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

yeah, he always had a unique take. i think he leaned a little too hard into the importance organizational culture at times but his pieces on bill kennedy, the grizz game ops, and the kings guy who stole a bunch of money are classics

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 October 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

arnovitz was good. would be cool if he still did one or two pods a year with zach

Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

There is tension over sourcing requirements, too, best personified by leading NBA reporter Shams Charania, who specializes in his lightning fast and exhaustive reporting of transactional news, which he always delivers first to his nearly 2 million Twitter followers. Indeed, the Athletic’s own reporters have raised concerns about his reporting when it veers beyond the narrow lane of transactions. Within the Times, there was some intrigue about whether Charania would re-sign with the Athletic, as a signal of whether the Times would embrace his kind of reporting. Perpich said breaking news was important for more visibility and that retaining Charania was a key priority, and he re-signed this month; the New York Post reported the deal was for a year.

re the athletic and times synergizing https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/10/07/new-york-times-athletic-subscribers/

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

As for whether insider reporting could exist within Times standards, Stallman said, “When we learned more about Shams and his methods, we were really, really impressed at how rigorous he is. Not only was there not any lingering concern over whether that worked under the Times imprimatur, but we were kind of dazzled by it.”

tbf the times has always been very beat sweetener friendly

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

interesting article. also interesting to learn I can use my NYT subscription to log into the athletic, meaning I can cancel that subscription?

I really do hope they can budget room for a nuggets beat writer though

k3vin k., Saturday, 8 October 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

yeah, an nyt sub, digital or paper, suffices for athletic access

Charles Barkley has agreed to a 10-year deal with TNT that could reach up to $200M, per @AndrewMarchand pic.twitter.com/lVpcXvLT9C

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) October 17, 2022


THE FELLAS ARE BACK!

The #InsidetheNBA crew will stay together for many years to come after signing long-term contract extensions with WBD sports. pic.twitter.com/X3l5oBuitc

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

Chuck contract has unlikely incentives of beating Kenny to the screen.

Jeff, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

thank god he's not leaving. the LIV stuff was really worrying me

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

liv cant even get anyone to show their golf on tv

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

ALL ABOARD THE CHUCK BUS 🚌

The NBA season tips off at 5pm ET on TNT pic.twitter.com/tQmYmqIW7q

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) October 18, 2022

Jeff, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

There’s a lot to appreciate here.

Jeff, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

it sucks that tnt spent a zillion keeping the inside crew together for another hundred years hen they’ve been plainly bad for like a decade but that beast inertia hard to stop it

per Ham (Clay), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

should be an interesting year for the ol drayman

WBD Sports, Omaha Productions and Green 23 will debut a new all-access series, The Countdown, during pregame tonight.

The premiere will feature Draymond Green's journey throughout the preseason, including Green’s reaction to his practice altercation and return to the Warriors. pic.twitter.com/ZO7clVQpnS

— Warner Bros. Discovery Sports U.S. PR (@WBDSportsPR) October 18, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

"He looked cooked."

Charles Barkley on what he has seen from James Harden 👀pic.twitter.com/Ogo4o8kEB0

— Action Network (@ActionNetworkHQ) October 18, 2022



<3 this show forever

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

chuck otm

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

lol good luck man

"We should treat [The Lakers] season as a celebration of LeBron's individual greatness... Spending all day everyday talking about their deficiencies, that's not great."

— JJ Redickpic.twitter.com/kuBXQBEtY5

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) October 19, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

yeah sorry but we're choosing violence

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 October 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

jj is so humorless and grandiose, type of guy who gets fired up talking about networking opportunities

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

i remember thinking JJ was great as the color guy when ESPN put him on games last year. but him and tommy alter as like serious pundits i need a barf bag

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 October 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

he could be good if hed just lighten up a bit and stop being captain save a player all the time, he understands the game hes good at talking on tv, hes just a giant bore

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

i know he says stuff like that because it’s good for business but even by that standard it’s an insane statement

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

thats his worst take ive heard

Spottie, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

espn’s new score box is wonderful

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 October 2022 05:37 (one year ago) link

wheres this?

Spottie, Thursday, 20 October 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link

like, on TV

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 October 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

i am still marveling at that barkley bus graphic. kd burner, russ on the outside, kawhi a blank slate. shit is rich. kudos to the uncredited(?) artiste

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

pylon chris paul

symsymsym, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

like, on TV


I see, I read it as box score but nope same ol. Yah the tv graphics look really clean

Spottie, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

good story

“We were in the locker room for 9 hours after the game. Oklahoma didn't want us to go anywhere... Shoutout Chris Paul, he gave us 15 bottles of wine. We got drunk, not gonna lie."

Donovan Mitchell on the night of the NBA shutdown 😳

(via @OldManAndThree)pic.twitter.com/Oi6cgC1lrK

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) October 21, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 21 October 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Lol whoever this guy is he’s on the money. I can’t stand EJ

TBH @Jumpshot8 I thought it was in bad taste so I took it down.

I should've said Eddie Johnson is awful.

I hate being that blunt, but it's very bad. https://t.co/yJNcxTX9PS

— Danny Marang (@DannyMarang) November 6, 2022

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Sunday, 6 November 2022 07:47 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

who sponsors this podcast

https://i.imgur.com/ZzhBmEo.png

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link

I still listen to the pod but the ad reads are so annoying because they blend it into the conversation. And my Xmas dream is to get rid of Tommy.

Jeff, Friday, 9 December 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

normally i would be expecting the ad money to dry up, but i don't think the sportsbook money is drying up anytime soon

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 December 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link

i cannot handle the name "the old man and the three" i am sorry but

Clay, Friday, 9 December 2022 03:08 (one year ago) link

It’s truly the worst pod name

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Friday, 9 December 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link

he should embrace the fatalism its the inspiration be like i shot all these threes and for what just to have a podcast, shit like that

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

lmao salute

Lmao Zach Lowe taking shots on NBA Today after Croatia's win today 😂#NBATwitter https://t.co/fVBK0dctdN pic.twitter.com/2lTvuOD9lE

— 𝙏𝙖𝙡𝙠𝙞𝙣’ 𝙉𝘽𝘼 (@_Talkin_NBA) December 9, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 December 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

banal joyless perk "turn up zach" has me rollin

Clay, Saturday, 10 December 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

lowe is absolutely sloshed already in that llooool

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Saturday, 10 December 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

funny bcuz he’s always talking about allowing himself to have a single beer after he’s finished writing about a big playoff game

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

prob why hes yelling about only every four years he let himself go lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

hahaha that rules, zach's adoption of croatia via marriage is very sweet

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 December 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

GOING FOR TWO by @kevinarnovitz #BlackList2022 pic.twitter.com/jUgaDgL14A

— The Black List (@theblcklst) December 12, 2022

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 December 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

had to do some digging to figure out what the hell this meant but:

GOING FOR TWO
Kevin Arnovitz
An openly gay NFL quarterback finds his meticulously-planned life upended on and off the field when he
falls for a charming high school teacher during the most important season of his career

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

sorry, the blacklist is a list of scripts that some consortium of ppl have judged to be the best unproduced scripts in hollywood. ngl that premise sounds kinda terrible lol but good for kevin

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 December 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

*nfl quarterback falling in love* i gotta go throw the ball now call you monday

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

i guess if you're gonna quit your cushy and presumably well paying job covering the NBA for espn you might as well do it for a cheesy rom com script that might make you like $10 million or something

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 December 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

who's making $10M on a rom com spec

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

oh i didn’t mean spec, i mean more like making a hit film that gets you residuals or whatever (idk how hollywood works)

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

here are today’s streaming options for yesterday’s LA/BOS game 🤔

https://i.imgur.com/YFZneJj.jpg

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

keep in mind i pay for this service

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

recommend skipping that one tbh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

can understand not wanting to be around jalens mid life crisis fashion

It’s time. After 23 years with ESPN, we have mutually decided to move on. I’ve learned everything I know there, met my best friends there, met my wife there, and leave with zero regrets. I can’t wait to share what’s next.

— Jacoby (@djacoby) December 14, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

haha

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

jacobys always been very nondescript to me. offers nothing

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

hes pretty good at talking like he should be the host of a show where the rest of the guys are ugly sports experts with terrible voices

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

where else are you gonna find a guy who's friends with jalen rose and bill simmons??

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

lol.. and yeah a host could work

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

FINALLY a Lowe Post that covers the Lakers' trade options

— Ryan Bernardoni (@dangercart) January 10, 2023

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

BBC airing 9 NBA games this season, starting with Paris last night and including a handful of playoff games

a transparent bid to advertise League Pass to international fans but I support it

Tracer Hand, Friday, 20 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

smart.

in other news.. tons of layoffs today at sbnation/vox for a lot of nba writers/media peeps

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Friday, 20 January 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link

Basketball code reached its apex in conversation during last year’s playoff series. Brooks also clubbed Gary Payton II with a flagrant 2 call, which led to the Warriors role player fracturing his elbow. Then, the physicality – and the debates of the intentions – heightened when Jordan Poole pulled Morant’s knee for a loose ball to deem him out for the playoff series.

omg why can't these writers actually write?

John Mayer McCheese (Leee), Friday, 27 January 2023 01:14 (one year ago) link

lmao the fuck are those words

Clay, Friday, 27 January 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

that is atrocious but at the same time it's a random sbnation blogger who you probably shouldn't be reading

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 January 2023 02:07 (one year ago) link

I know but I remember early when they started that they could make decent sentences (Ziller in particular), now the site is practically unreadable.

John Mayer McCheese (Leee), Friday, 27 January 2023 04:32 (one year ago) link

Serious sparks are flying between Stephen A. Smith and Jay Williams over Kyrie Irving pic.twitter.com/Cp7MaSeTQD

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) February 6, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

Unwatchable

Jeff, Monday, 6 February 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

poor legler just wants to break down some xs and os

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Monday, 6 February 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

it really was a bad call lol

This is the worst call of Mike Breen's career (according to him) https://t.co/e0Z74LlNsH pic.twitter.com/4tSKFvL9dY

— TheOldMan&TheThree (@OldManAndThree) February 9, 2023

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 9 February 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

lol yeah that was a bad one

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link

i wonder if his view got blocked or what he saw w/ the refs after the ball went thru the net

J0rdan S., Friday, 10 February 2023 00:04 (one year ago) link

had to be something like that

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Friday, 10 February 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link

REPORT: “NBC Sports is prepared to make an aggressive offer to win back NBA rights after more than 20 years without them,” via @sherman4949/@CNBC.

(https://t.co/xPHfaHD4H8) pic.twitter.com/q8QrU9jLom

— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) February 13, 2023

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Monday, 13 February 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGdkaFZVyGc

la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 February 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link

roundball rock >>>

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 00:04 (one year ago) link

Timberwolves have a new play by play guy for TV this year, Michael Grady, was the Nets sideline reporter, he's been really great this year and I could see him going national eventually

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link

i like the wolves crew

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link

nba on NBC could be cool

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 February 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link

lol immediately thought of the song coming back

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link

just in case no one has seen this, the entire thing is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_h7Lm7C9Nk

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link

one of the all time great youtube videos

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

*boomer dad with sandals+socks combo* now thats what i call classical music

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 05:33 (one year ago) link

roundball rock bridge highly underrated imo

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 05:43 (one year ago) link

KOC getting roasted for this

Brandon Miller just had one of the best performances of the college season amid the controversy: 41 points with the game-tying shot at the end of regulation and the game-winning layup in overtime. pic.twitter.com/81kNMM4B5r

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) February 23, 2023

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 23 February 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link

geez, read the room dummy

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 February 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link

what a loser

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link

controversy huh interesting

Clay, Thursday, 23 February 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

it’s truly demented that that kid is still playing

k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2023 04:19 (one year ago) link

Georges Niang says he has ‘a lot’ to say about Ben Simmons

“Ben Simmons kinda handicapped us”

(Via @975JKShow | h/t @sixerdaily )

pic.twitter.com/jkxRBODOU8

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) February 24, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link

it was obvious during the game in philly that niang really does not like him

J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

probably tough to respect someone like simmons when you were a 50th pick who made good and you've made like $12 million in your entire career

call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 February 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link

this fuckin guy celtics are the top rated clutch team in the league and just beat the sixers by running a beautiful play with six seconds left on the clock what a clown

Celtics got the win but their end-game offense remains a concern against great defenses like the Sixers. Strange lineups, bad ATOs, and far too stagnant.

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) February 26, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 February 2023 04:50 (one year ago) link

non-nationally televised knicks-celtics game with mike breen on the call on MSG is a nice bonus of living in nyc

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 February 2023 01:14 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

“DID WE JUST SEE WHAT WE THINK WE JUST SAW?!”

Kevin Harlan nearly FELL OUT OF HIS CHAIR. Dan Bonner and @realStanVG were STUNNED.

The crew’s reaction to Furman’s dramatic win over Virginia was incredible. pic.twitter.com/Jym88PALq8

— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) March 20, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link

great call. svg shell shocked

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link

Dan Le Batard tells Stephen A. that he HATES what he and @SkipBayless have done to sports television.

"I would say who the hell are you to say me and him, what about YOU?!”
- @stephenasmith #SouthBeachSessions🌴

📺 https://t.co/QtIoWyeMLd
🎙️ https://t.co/k0FsLAvDnw pic.twitter.com/YrfPp8iQzx

— Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz (@LeBatardShow) March 24, 2023

k3vin k., Friday, 24 March 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

i dislike richard jefferson so, sooo much

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:38 (one year ago) link

hes such a weenie

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:39 (one year ago) link

he’s lame, devoid of charisma *and* a dick. such a bad combo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link

he is now criticizing spencer dinwiddie for not going for a lay up down 3 with 8 seconds left and no timeouts

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link

“no shot blocker in there” he says incredulously

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:48 (one year ago) link

ThreeFourTwo Productions has acquired The Dunker's Spot... Happy for them, but ugh have to listen to more gambling add reads.

Jeff, Friday, 7 April 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

Also hope they can edit the length of their eps down.. last one was 2 hours 40 minutes.

Jeff, Friday, 7 April 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

Jefferson is so bad, revolting personality

jj redick sidekick spike lee malcolm x jacket

https://i.imgur.com/70aRl6m.png

lag∞n, Friday, 14 April 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

that guy really stinks

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 April 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

he just seems very pointless. jj would be fine on his own

Spottie, Friday, 14 April 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

the amount of playoff preview podcast content is overwhelming

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 April 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link

This is the absolute best week of the year to listen to NBA podcasts. I just heard Bill Simmons say that Giannis will become "the best player since LeBron" if he wins a title this year, and then when asked to clarify he said, "Let's say LeBron ... it goes til 2018, right?"

— Tom Ley (@ToLey88) April 14, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 14 April 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link

i tend to like the post game pods way more than the prediction stuff.

Spottie, Friday, 14 April 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

still thinking about how last night, as the camera showed tatum & brown embracing, mark jones said “the two Js… smoking on that philly pack tonight.” honestly did not know you could say that on TV

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

also after one of tatum’s made threes near the end he said “jayson tatum! not always there when you call but always on time” which actually felt like a correct interpretation of that lyric w/in the context of a star player missing every shot for 3.75 quarters but then draining three threes to ice the game

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

classic calls last night

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

lol yeah good stuff

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

doris on the other hand sometimes she goes so deep into her success wins mindset soliloquies its like are you even watching the game, she said that philly was down 0-2 to start the series twice before jones corrected her, its frustrating cause she knows ball but does so much "this wonderful young man" shit

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

its funny i saw both celtics and philly fans accusing her of being biased last night, i think cause shes so complimentary when fans hear it for their own team theyre like yes makes sense of course but then with the other team its all why is she in love with them

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

doris seems more flowery this year than in past years

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

yeah sometimes there’s a paternalism about her but she’ll also call guys out in a real way too, it’s almost a yin/yang of the same emotion, tough love kinda thing. she was right to be genuinely incredulous last night @ embiid & harden kinda giving up on the game. also she went viral for calling out dillon brooks in round 1

when JVG is on a big playoff game & treating it seriously and not doing 80s stand up routines i still think he’s the best we have in terms of breaking down the game in real time, even like during a possession. but doris is up there for me in that regard

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

TNT is kinda slipping, their play by play guys are great but reggie and SVG are not amazing. stan is aight but he’s not as good as his brother

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

i like jeff’s off the wall shit, his contrary ornery shit

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

hubie is the best as far as analysis, but thats all he does

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

xp was funny a few games ago where jvg randomly went on a huge rant about load management, i think it was a lakers game and breen was saying something about how it would be good for bron to get more rest for the next game and jvg kept doubling down saying he thought the vets would be better in the next game the more minutes they played, to establish a rhythm or something like that

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link

it’s impossible for me to separate my feelings about him from the starks/ewing/oakley knicks but i think even without that he’d still be my favorite color guy

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

cant believe these coaches who watched first hand as the spurs built a dynasty on being the first team to do load management and yet they still dont believe it

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

also after one of tatum’s made threes near the end he said “jayson tatum! not always there when you call but always on time” which actually felt like a correct interpretation of that lyric w/in the context of a star player missing every shot for 3.75 quarters but then draining three threes to ice the game

― J0rdan S., Friday, May 12, 2023 1:08 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this was so great, such a weird line to suddenly reference and yet it fit perfectly as you say

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 May 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

Back when JVG was coaching, I only ever saw him in photos and so I always assumed that his affect was closer to Eeyore than to Jefferino Hot Dog Buddy.

Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

what is this nonsense
https://i.imgur.com/ztENwlv.png

Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link

oh my god. hahahaha

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 May 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link

he’s such a dweeb. I can see all his tweets tho I think?

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

i had a pleasant run in w/ stan van yesterday. he hopped out of a car outside my office in midtown and i was like “what the…” but there’s a very famous restaurant right next door & it turned out he was looking for that (not an uncommon occurrence). i think he flew down from boston for the night to hang with his wife. he’s lost a lot of weight, he looked good

it was actually at least the third stan van encounter of my life. back in his heat days he didn’t live too far from my parents, his daughter and my brother were in middle school at the same time. he always looked kinda disheveled, it was a bit like running into khalid shield mohammed. he’s looking better these days

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 May 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

sheikh not shield. my apologies to the big man…

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 May 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

i’m sure the broadcasting life is a hell of a lot healthier than the coaching life. good to hear tho!

call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link

he’s a keyboard warrior tho glad to hear it’s not taking too much out of him

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

mannix is getting absolutely cooked for these comments

Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix talks the Denver Nuggets media gripe.

"they're just not a compelling team to talk about - to write about"

Worth noting that @SIChrisMannix and his cohort are compelled by attention. And financial return. They peddle NBA sugar, not basketball. pic.twitter.com/RSLKMbb2dl

— n i k o l a e s t h e t i c (@nikolaesthetic) May 25, 2023

Spottie, Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

mannix is an idiot but i also can't imagine getting worked up about anything he says in that clip

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

interpreting his comments in the most generous possible light, I get what he’s saying to a degree. so many of these guys are employed not because of their value as analysts but because the players are such willing participants in the drama circus, and jokic just doesn’t participate in any of that stuff off the court. it’s tough for the brand these guys are trying to market

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

saw someone earlier tweeting about how basketball is interesting and people who like it should cover it, now i know what that was about lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

Morant brandishing weapons on Instagram is better basketball news than Jokic breaking a record set by Wilt Chamberlain, apparently.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

I’ve said this before but as a casual at best NFL fan, the level of actual football analysis on mainstream broadcasts is just in another universe compared to the NBA

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

xp

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

100%

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

need to make 2k more about plays

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

xp
yes. I realised a few years ago that I would watch the games on TV and feel like I understood broadly what was happening and nothing the commentators said would disabuse me of that notion. then I would go on ilx and realise that I only understood about 30 pc of what I was watching.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

there is an intellectual component to every football play that doesn’t really exist in other sports. you basically have to understand how/why every single play is working on a base level to even be given the opportunity to step onto an NFL field. and then there’s the fact that QBs are the most famous players & it’s also the most intellectually demanding position so you get lots of ex QB analysts whose brains are specifically trained to break down plays before they even happen. but even the guys at other positions have to understand the game on a crazy level. like find an interview of any random cornerback explaining how his responsibilities on a play completely shift from a, b, c, d options to e, f, g, h options in a heartbeat bcuz a WR simply motioned across the field. NFL football is extraordinarily complicated mentally it’s really nuts

also keep in mind there’s essentially like 30 seconds of dead time after every football play so granular analysis is built into the broadcasts in a way that can’t exist w/ basketball

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

yeah the rhythm of watching football is funny watch a play rewatch it from different angles at different speeds try to understand what happened watch the next play

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

Wait 5 mins for the refs to do the same.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 May 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link

another player pod is born when will it stop

Surely nothing can go wrong from a star player having his own podcast pic.twitter.com/BDHvzrZfH3

— 𝘾𝙤𝙖𝙘𝙝 𝙎𝙝𝙪𝙗𝙝 (@OVOLakeShow) June 2, 2023

Spottie, Friday, 2 June 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

more like trae dumb

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 3 June 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

every nba player should be required to have a podcast

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 June 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link

Stephen A. Smith goes on Fox News, calls Democrats’ support of Joe Biden’s run for second term ‘utterly embarrassing’ https://t.co/Fz26NvadRR pic.twitter.com/g9WlwWRkT1

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) June 7, 2023

love this guy!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

damn… shifting him back to problematic fav territory

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

He really hates taxes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

it's framed in that of all the candidates he would vote for christ christie. so...

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

ignoring my partner and pushing my relationship to the brink in order to spend 5 hours today listening to a bunch of post-draft podcasts full of guys all saying the same stuff

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 June 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

lmao

Spottie, Friday, 23 June 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

if ur partner isnt supportive of u in ur hoop pod era, theyre not the one

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 23 June 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

he did sit and watch some of the draft with me last night but i do the podcast listening in private

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 June 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link

same, also don't forget to read 10 different draft report cards where every pick is ranked basically from B to A+ with like 2 C+'s thrown in.

its funny everyone knows most guys wont do much in the league but the comps are always players who had 10+ year careers

lag∞n, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

hope springs eternal when its the draft

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 23 June 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

i think a comp to, idk, MarShon Brooks might be lost on the national tv audience but i'm supportive of them trying it

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

lol perfect guy yeah

lag∞n, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

he did sit and watch some of the draft with me last night but i do the podcast listening in private

― J0rdan S., Friday, June 23, 2023 2:06 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is me too lol. my gf is newly into the nuggets and was excited to watch the draft with me last night but tapped about an hour before they picked

k3vin k., Friday, 23 June 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

same here basically. my spouse likes to critique what the players moms wear. i listen to all the pods during chores and stuff. it is a lonely path we're on.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

what is everyone's pod hierarchy at this point? i think this is where i am for the stuff in my feed:

dunc'd on/duncan and hollinger - best detail, cold-blooded analysis
windhorst/bontemps/mcmahon - best insidery content, best sniping at each other
russillo nba pods - decent layman analysis, good interview
lowe - good layman analysis, bad interviewer
simmons - occasionally good insider stuff but wildly out of touch these days

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

the draft is a hard watch for me and always has been. i dont pay enough attention to college ball to play along really.

pods:

– bill & russilo: dont care for them apart, only together, and its mostly for the lolz and to play the over/under game on when bills first celtics/pats reference will drop. russillos ability to land a 30-45 second run-on sentence with a handful of different tangents is legendary. also love him checking bill on his bs, in a lighthearted way
– lowe - his pod has always been kinda awkward, and hes often annoying in the way he praises players, but hes still good at breaking stuff down. i dont listen to all his episodes, just depends on his guests. i never listen to his interviews cos of how bad he is.
– windhorst / hoops collective - theyre plugged in enough to warrant must listen status usually

if time and/or depending on topics

– duncd on - pretty dry but thats fine
– ringer nba show - mainly the group chat crew
– athletic nba show - if time
– thinking basketball - lots of detail, analytic, i think his videos are better than his pod tho
– a lot of the player pods, all the smoke, dray, jj, pg, etc

dubs:
– warriors plus minus - basically the athletic bay area crew. not particularly great but they are plugged in, so...
– TK show (kawakami) - see above, and i dont listen to it consistently, just if im interested to know more about the topic
– light years - for the lolz

Spottie, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

I listen to hours and hours of NBA pods every week. I think the thing that annoys me most is how obsessed they are with distinguishing themselves from others with evaluations. I'm higher on this guy than most, I'm lower on this guy than most, I am far from the consensus. But really, they all say that same thing with minor variations.

Jeff, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

Dunc'ed On is my fav, because I like capitalism/transactions/salary cap/CBA minutia of the NBA the best. Also like the NBA Front Office podcast, Sam Vecenie sometimes when he doesn't go too deep dive on the draft, Thinking Basketball, Dunker's Spot! Steve Jones Jr. cracks me up, Real GM Radio love Danny, Lowe Post depending on guests, same with Bill.

Jeff, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

oh yeah dunkers spot on occasion for sure

Spottie, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

They really are the best with X's and O's.

Jeff, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

Can't stand player pods, TBH. JJ's sometimes, depending on the guest and if I can stomach Tommy's stupid ass questions.

Jeff, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

I'd like Ringer NBA if they would ditch Verrier and the ex-players. Just give me Wos/Rob/JKyle/Seerat.

Jeff, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

those are basically the ones I listen to (though lowe is my highest priority), plus thinking basketball. I also listen to a couple of nuggets specific pods

k3vin k., Friday, 23 June 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

whoops that was post CAD

k3vin k., Friday, 23 June 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

i put drays pod on 2x speed and its still mostly unlistenable. he needs a host or partner badly. or just learn to be more succinct.

Spottie, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

I'm higher on this guy than most, I'm lower on this guy than most, I am far from the consensus.

crying. they love doing this

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 June 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

my hierarchy is

1. windhorst/bontempts/macmahon

this has my fav mix of good basketball discussion w/ firsthand reporting & overall entertainment. i grew up riding in cars that played sports talk radio & they have the chemistry of a good sports radio show while also being very well sourced reporters. i genuinely laugh often listening to this.

2. hollinger/duncan

i like that because this podcast is less regular than the rest of these the topics are usually much more big picture -- best coaches, best franchises, extension candidates etc. i like hollinger's perspective on things & nate is a good host and knows the CBA well. they clearly have fun doing the show.

3. simmons/rusillo

bill says a lot of dumb stuff but rusillo does at least needle him & sometimes outright call him out. but bill is a good source of gossip these days & he does a lot of big picture discussion too that is his bread and butter that i like. he's prob the worst "i'm higher on this guy" offender of them all. rusillo can be obnoxious and they can be obnoxious together but he also knows basketball, has some sources inside the league, and knows the college game as well.

4. lowe

of all the espn ones that just recycle the same 5 guests over and over, zach's is prob my favorite just bcuz i've always liked him and all his writing is behind the paywall now.

5. bomani jones/vinnie goodwill

they do basketball pods i really enjoy but they're only once every few months at best

6. simmons/joe house

don't really love drunk house but sober house is my fav character in the simmons extended universe. their over/under pods and such are usually great.

7. dunc'd on

i don't subscribe but will usually check out the free episodes. some of the ones that are like deep dive scouting reports and stuff get a bit into the weeds for me. but if i need to fully disassociate from life those can do the trick.

8. windhorst early or midweek show

this is pretty guest dependent. sometimes it's an outright skip for me.

9. rusillo

solo rusillo gives me PTSD to sitting in traffic in the backseat of a car but sometimes if i have no better options i might check it out

**

and also kevin pelton who doesn't have a podcast of his own but if he's a guest on any of these podcasts that's a must play for me

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 June 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link

good rundown. i never thought i would like solo russillo but he's such a deeply weird person i can't look away. and i think lowe i would have had higher in the past, but he's gotten more in his own shtick and i feel like he never lets the guests get much of a word in.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 June 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

yeah I like russillo a lot, he’s a meathead but almost apologetic about it and just a genuinely curious dude who wants to learn which I appreciate. he’s also a chris paul stan and had him on his show recently which was hilarious because he was fanboying super hard

k3vin k., Saturday, 24 June 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link

yeah that was a lot of fun.

and i agree, he is a curious person within his limits. his author interviews are always great and i've picked up a couple books based on them (if you like u.s. history even a little bit "astoria" is an extremely fun read). half of his podcast has turned into a side project with the thesis that the journey of adulthood is incrementally becoming less of an idiot over time, and he makes himself a living example of that.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 June 2023 02:16 (one year ago) link

agree with others that the player pods are generally awful, unfortunately most of them are narcissistic idiots, bad combination

k3vin k., Saturday, 24 June 2023 03:13 (one year ago) link

I listen anyway, there’s usually some nuggets that only players can get out of other players

Spottie, Saturday, 24 June 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link

i get recommended gil arenas' pod on yt all the time and theyre always the most clickbaity poison-brained takes

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 24 June 2023 03:22 (one year ago) link

He’s truly awful lol.

Spottie, Saturday, 24 June 2023 03:24 (one year ago) link

i'm a big lowe guy though it definitely depends on the guests. JJ gets some good stuff out of people but you have to wade through a lot to get to it. i've cut the cord on simmons/rusillo stuff, at some point i made the decision that bill's interests and perspective has taken up enough space in my brain to last the rest of my life. however, i have fallen into the hoop collective and end up listening to it more than i ever thought i would. but now reading everyone's recs i fear my bball pod listening is going to increase with duncan/hollinger...

while we're on the subject what podcast app do y'all use? i've been using pocketcasts for like a decade but i am really wishing there was a way to sort by topic area

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 24 June 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

6. simmons/joe house

don't really love drunk house but sober house is my fav character in the simmons extended universe. their over/under pods and such are usually great.

just wanted to call this back up and say you should seek out Bill's recent trade value list w/ House if you haven't already, j0rdan ... just a terrific example of their chemistry together, and so many funny exchanges / House dinging Bill when few others will.

also, as long as i'm here: Russillo's pre-Finals interview w/ Jeff Van Gundy was awesome. esp. JVG talking about Kyle Lowry.

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 00:50 (eleven months ago) link

friends...who is "mad dog" on espn and why does espn keep putting him onto clips of ppl talking abt shit, it sounds like this pup needs to be put to sleep!!!

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:42 (eleven months ago) link

classic sports radio talker of mike and the mad dog fame

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:46 (eleven months ago) link

ra...dio?

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:56 (eleven months ago) link

yeah mad dog is one of the most legendary sports talk hosts ever (derogatory)

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:58 (eleven months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:13 (eleven months ago) link

"don't tell me Jokic is the most dominant center of all time, you need to talk about Earl Birmingham!! - he led William and Mary to FOUR NCAA championships in a row from 1944-49"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:14 (eleven months ago) link

Mad Dog more like Loud Boomer.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:36 (eleven months ago) link

on the latest simmons rusillo sunday pod bill starts an extended conversation about how dame for KAT is the most sensible trade the blazers could make… i can’t get it out of my head how stupid it was

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:45 (eleven months ago) link

i overheard some guys talking re: KAT about how "an experienced shooting big is the best thing you can have next to scoot" and i was like lol

Clay, Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:51 (eleven months ago) link

i mean if you squint really hard i can see the concept, but it ignores the fact that kat would come in on his ginormous contract and be like oh finally this is *my* team

call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:54 (eleven months ago) link

some ppl just get hung up on players as on-court archetypes in their best-case scenario (kat=sharpshooting 5, ben simmons point center with 1-5 switchability on D) and forget that they might suck in some other way that negates what they do well

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 29 June 2023 01:03 (eleven months ago) link

this is a god tier no-context graphic. i'm in awe. https://t.co/Xsv0r9jOpU

— Robby Kalland (@RKalland) June 28, 2023



it’s true

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 June 2023 03:23 (eleven months ago) link

Reaves has won zero dunk contests

very sneaky cis (symsymsym), Thursday, 29 June 2023 03:49 (eleven months ago) link

incredible

micah, Thursday, 29 June 2023 05:04 (eleven months ago) link

oh my god someone in the replies said Mclung was "Westbrook 2.0"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:18 (eleven months ago) link

like westbrook except very tiny

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:17 (eleven months ago) link

austin reaves post-westbrook (reg season and playoffs) was incredible, i would absolutely throw shitloads of money at him

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:34 (eleven months ago) link

lol they did an oral history of windys finger thing https://www.gq.com/story/brian-windhorst-very-strange-trade-oral-history

This is the kind of reporting we need. https://t.co/GDlA3bd2OP pic.twitter.com/UBJS0AmuTV

— Yaya Dubin (@JADubin5) June 29, 2023

Spottie, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:17 (eleven months ago) link

Looking forward to the Netflix doc about the oral history of the meme of the talking head soundbyte

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:58 (eleven months ago) link

i love windy so much

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 01:44 (eleven months ago) link

Podcasts saved the rockets franchise

“[James Harden] caught wind of Jalen’s podcast with Paul George, and he wasn’t too keen on some of the things Jalen Green was saying... For [Jalen] to say ‘it could be good, it could be bad,’ [James] didn’t like that very much.” 😬👀

- @KellyIko on this clip. https://t.co/FrSLP45gfa

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) June 30, 2023

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 02:27 (eleven months ago) link

Paul George playing 4D chess

very sneaky cis (symsymsym), Friday, 30 June 2023 05:43 (eleven months ago) link

the fuck man

k3vin k., Friday, 30 June 2023 14:31 (eleven months ago) link

this is completely crazy unless they bump doris up to the big chair but if it’s just mark jackson…. my god

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link

Damn, Jalen too!

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:15 (eleven months ago) link

goddamn those are a couple huge names

i guess i felt like jalen's star was rising? i don't have a good feel for that stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:23 (eleven months ago) link

jalen's kind of an affable clown imo, not really sure how much he ever added but jeff was my guy

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:24 (eleven months ago) link

perk still has a job somehow

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

perk probably works for a fraction of those other guys

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:40 (eleven months ago) link

jvg had his quirks and was never my absolute favorite but you generally felt like you were in good hands with him

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:41 (eleven months ago) link

this is off topic but can I say that Pat McAfee's twin affectations of always wearing tank tops and always standing up drives me up a fucking wall?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:41 (eleven months ago) link

Keeping mark Jackson and letting JVG go is some kinda cruel joke

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:48 (eleven months ago) link

this is bs. jeff may land at tnt?

further down that article mentions doc rivers as a dark horse to fill jvg's chair. i'm sure that won't happen but just the thought of listening to doc's rasp for 2.5 hrs every week...

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:53 (eleven months ago) link

Tragic. He’s been the proxy for the skeptical (and sometimes cynical) basketball fan (e.g., us)! He is also way more appreciative of the strangeness of NBA culture than Breen or Jackson (and nearly everyone else at ESPN). He’s a perfect fit for TNT.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:00 (eleven months ago) link

My reviews of the former professionals that I believe work for ESPN:

Richard Jefferson: charming, acceptable basketball takes
JJ Reddick: insufferable, decent (improving) basketball takes
Kendrick Perkins: disaster
Vince Cater: charming, bad basketball takes
Jon Barry: insufferable, decent basketball takes
Caron Butler: boring

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:10 (eleven months ago) link

i think jefferson’s boring

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:15 (eleven months ago) link

i think RJ is my single least favorite NBA TV personality, he’s just remarkably smug while having nothing insightful or interesting to say. but also if you told me that perk’s CTE level takes are the worst thing on TV right now i couldn’t argue with you

the list above is why i’ve consistently taken slings and arrows in my unwavering standom of inside the NBA

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 16:33 (eleven months ago) link

the only NBA studio person ESPN employs who is worth a shit is tim legler but you can only catch him on the SVP sportscenter which is also the only good studio show on ESPN regardless of the sport

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

yeah the inside crew laps those guys over and over

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

wtf why is Mark Jackson not the one being let go???!

octobeard, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:37 (eleven months ago) link

yeah i really hate richard jefferson

on twitter there's a lot of hate for doris burke and all this "she's only staying because she's a woman" shit :/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:39 (eleven months ago) link

Legler rules

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:39 (eleven months ago) link

people need to realize that these decisions are being made based on a spreadsheet with all their salaries in it and nothing else

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:53 (eleven months ago) link

i like rj and do not understand the hate, i honestly dont know who the market is for perk, jj is p smaht about stuff but i think comes off like a dick bc hes a dukie.

espn is just p sterile, trying to find some formula of ex-jocks (some pros and some wannabes who became talk radio assholes) in suits and it never works bc they have no chemistry. inside the nba works because they took big star personalities like barkley and let them build rapport. espn is like watching 4 dads who have never met each other try and talk about sports before their kids' game starts.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

im with jordan rj is repugnant completely swagless fool who thinks hes the shit

lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:06 (eleven months ago) link

lonely guy thinkin bout things

BREAKING: ESPN has let go Jalen Rose, per @nypost pic.twitter.com/8mby04vmBn

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) June 30, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:07 (eleven months ago) link

glad jaylen got that ja morant interview in before this happened.

rj, i liked him better after i heard him on a podcast where he was allowed to swear.

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:09 (eleven months ago) link

the thing that puts him over the top from being an ordinary pointless talking head for me is hes kind of a dick, like be humble your not too great

lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

jalen could probably figure something out with the ringer as he and bill are buds.

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:24 (eleven months ago) link

i just hope even tho hes not on espn anymore twitter still makes fun of jalens hair/whole deal

lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link

very perplexing hairline

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:33 (eleven months ago) link

people need to realize that these decisions are being made based on a spreadsheet with all their salaries in it and nothing else

― call all destroyer, Friday, June 30, 2023 12:53 PM (forty minutes ago)

keyshawn johnson (laid off) had a 5 year $18m contract lol

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 17:34 (eleven months ago) link

good work if you can get it

lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:37 (eleven months ago) link

some classic stuff from nick friedell on the zach lowe bulls podcast from the other day. howling uproariously when zach says “in fairness, lavine is a great scorer…”

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 20:58 (eleven months ago) link

wow what a bloodbath, lots of big names

Here's the list of ESPN Firings
Suzy Kolber
Steve Young
Keyshawn Johnson
Max Kellerman
Rob Ninkovich
Jeff Van Gundy
Ashley Brewer
Jalen Rose
LaPhonso Ellis
Mike Breen
Mark Jackson
Todd McShay
Joon Lee
Matt Hasselbeck
Jason Fitz
Jordan Cornette

— Mark Johnson (@MarkJohnson777) June 30, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:34 (eleven months ago) link

i cannot believe they let breen go :(

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:35 (eleven months ago) link

Wtf, Breen?!!
Glad Jackson is at least gone.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

oh never mind whew

And take Breen and Jackson off of it. It appears I got those two wrong.

— Mark Johnson (@MarkJohnson777) June 30, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

surely thats not a real tweet

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

sorry!!

i was gonna say there's a small handful of competent old school broadcaster types left

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

mcshay is def gone (football but still i'm shocked)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link

joon lee is great hope he finds good work somewhere

Clay, Friday, 30 June 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link

kellerman sealed his fate years ago

ESPN is letting go Max Kellerman never forget this moment
pic.twitter.com/9Q10Oa5Joy

— very rare (@veryrare_ns) June 30, 2023

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:40 (eleven months ago) link

espn laid friedell off, i’m hurt

J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 July 2023 06:01 (eleven months ago) link

Very sad about Steve Young also getting the boot. Damn.

octobeard, Saturday, 1 July 2023 06:32 (eleven months ago) link

wtf friedell rules

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 July 2023 11:41 (eleven months ago) link

His voice hurts my ears.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 July 2023 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

I'm just going to complain about the Athletic's site, I can't think of a good reason why it loads so slowly.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:12 (eleven months ago) link

the culprit is always third party ad shit, tho ive seen much worse than this so idk why its so slow

https://i.imgur.com/ICX3VRB.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:37 (eleven months ago) link

i have no load issues with them, is it browser/adblocker issues?

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:39 (eleven months ago) link

Shouldn't be adblocker because it's most egregious on mobile browsers, on which I don't have them installed. What bugs me is that the page loads really slowly and doesn't seem responsive till everything loads -- I can't click articles right away and in my impatience I always end up going to the wrong link.

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 1 July 2023 19:07 (eleven months ago) link

huh, a few days ago i was trying to use the app on my ipad and it couldn't even scroll an article smoothly, but then i switched to the website on safari (with no ad blockers) and it was fine. it does seem like they've gunked things up lately so that they can serve me the same bleu de chanel ad 12 times in a row.

circles, Saturday, 1 July 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link

Athletic is bad now

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:14 (eleven months ago) link

Not that great. Like Hollinger, but that’s it.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

they have two celtics writers which is nice them plus hollinger is what i read there mostly

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:30 (eleven months ago) link

yeah I'm pretty much just in for the Timberwolves and Vikings beat writers

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:51 (eleven months ago) link

Reader mode in Firefox is key for me reading both NY times and The Athletic. Especially on mobile

octobeard, Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:57 (eleven months ago) link

NBA coverage is not the Athletic's strong suit

very sneaky cis (symsymsym), Sunday, 2 July 2023 00:45 (eleven months ago) link

also, all the comments on their NBA articles sound like hockey fans' opinions about basketball, which I've already been deeply overexposed to in this country

very sneaky cis (symsymsym), Sunday, 2 July 2023 00:47 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Sports podcasters, I have a request.

If you are discussing a player for a long time, please use that player’s name more than once at the start of the discussion. As a listener, it can be a difficult game of “Guess Who?” if you’re multitasking and miss the name drop at the start.

— Evan Zaucha (@EZ_Hoops) July 19, 2023



This. So much this.

Jeff, Thursday, 20 July 2023 10:54 (eleven months ago) link

yes this is a pet peeve of mine too

symsymsym, Thursday, 20 July 2023 18:18 (eleven months ago) link

Anyone care to list/rank all of the pods of players (active and retired)? (I'll exclude radio show cranks (Rick Barry).) I do enjoy them in clips where a guest is telling funny stories or roasting Dillon Brooks, but have never felt the need to listen to an entire episode.

Active:
Draymond
Bev

"Active":
PG

Retired:
JJ
Stephen Jackson/Matt Barnes
KG

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 22 July 2023 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

paul george has a podcast named i shit you not "Podcast P"

Clay, Sunday, 23 July 2023 00:16 (eleven months ago) link

the role he was born to play (guy who talks about basketball during the playoffs)

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Sunday, 23 July 2023 00:37 (eleven months ago) link

Yes I have Paul George under "Active".

Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Sunday, 23 July 2023 03:12 (eleven months ago) link

Add Knuckleheads with Quentin Richardson & Darius Miles to the retired players group

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 23 July 2023 05:58 (eleven months ago) link

so who put marc on the payroll to tweet this

NBA stars aren’t fools. They smell the money from Saudi Arabia. Basketball is quite popular in Saudi Arabia. It’s men’s national team won the bronze in the 1999 Asian Basketball Federation Championship . The 12-team Saudi Basketball League was established in 1976. pic.twitter.com/njguJC1aT4

— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpears) July 25, 2023

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:19 (eleven months ago) link

lol It’s men’s national team won the bronze in the 1999 Asian Basketball Federation Championship .

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:23 (eleven months ago) link

cant believe we've been sleeping on the house of saud as ballers

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:25 (eleven months ago) link

i'm sure we all remember where we were for the bronze medal game of the 1999 asian basketball federation championship

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:30 (eleven months ago) link

he deleted it lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:59 (eleven months ago) link

I think Shaq would do a commercial for genocide if the check was on time

— Trill Withers (@TylerIAm) September 28, 2018

we're so close to this

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 04:09 (eleven months ago) link

Spears is so bad. Hate when he is on Lowe Post.

Jeff, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 10:50 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Bob Myers is nearing a deal to join ESPN’s “NBA Countdown” as an analyst, per @nypost pic.twitter.com/oYBNuGFZ9u

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) August 10, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 August 2023 00:25 (ten months ago) link

pour one out for the bob meyers can do literally anything after basketball narrative

call all destroyer, Friday, 11 August 2023 00:45 (ten months ago) link

light years ahead

lag∞n, Friday, 11 August 2023 00:48 (ten months ago) link

ainge on knuckleheads

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 07:46 (ten months ago) link

Stephen A said on PG’s Podcast that LeBron and his camp drive him crazy because they can’t accept being #2 All-Time, and how one day he told Rich Paul to “Get the f**k out of my face.”😳😂

(🎥 @PodcastPShow) pic.twitter.com/TEkIIJxKxD

— uSTADIUM NBA (@uSTADIUMNBA) August 14, 2023

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link

classic gen x-millennial dynamic

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 18:19 (ten months ago) link

love stephen a's johnny gill outfit and tiny chain look

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:16 (ten months ago) link

not so much the quiet storm as the obstreperous squall

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:23 (ten months ago) link

i mean i know i shouldn't have any expectations for ESPN anymore but fuck they haven't filed a FIBA story in two days, nothing to be found on the main page today, had to search to find those

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:12 (ten months ago) link

🆕 Athletic NBA Show

🏀How the NBA schedule is made

Evan Wasch Executive Vice President, Basketball Strategy & Analytics walks Mike Vorkunov through the schedule making process

🎙@MikeVorkunov

Listen
Apple: https://t.co/K7r4qlpjaT
Spotify: https://t.co/m51IYXr0S1 pic.twitter.com/jntZlrKOCF

— The Athletic NBA Show (@AthleticNBAShow) August 19, 2023



This was a fascinating pod about everything that goes into the NBA schedule making.

Jeff, Sunday, 20 August 2023 02:07 (ten months ago) link

Every arena the NBA plays in wants to fill as many days as possible with events like boat shows, gun meets, music group tours, and monster truck competitions and there are all kinds of contractual obligations that have to be met about how those dates get filled, so you just know scheduling 30 teams for 82 games must be like putting together an enormous jigsaw with 500,000 pieces.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 20 August 2023 03:02 (ten months ago) link

you cannot do a monster truck rally in a basketball arena

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 August 2023 03:08 (ten months ago) link

or a boat show

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 August 2023 03:08 (ten months ago) link

The Blazers played for decades in an arena that regularly held such events.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 20 August 2023 03:09 (ten months ago) link

But even if my examples were not precise, the principle of arenas not wanting to stay empty is perfectly valid, which was my point.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 20 August 2023 03:12 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Guys, I don’t think I’m going to make it through my remaining 8 hours of preview pods before the games start tonight.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:41 (eight months ago) link

its tough to go into the season while only hearing over and unders from 15 out of a possible 25 completely interchangeable guys

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:47 (eight months ago) link

lol

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:16 (eight months ago) link

Lmao

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link

I do think we’ve well crossed the saturation point w this stuff

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link

We have but I can’t quit it.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:54 (eight months ago) link

Addicted to boozers floating head / beard

My picks for NBA opening night with boosted odds @betwayusa

Suns +1.5
Lakers +5.5 pic.twitter.com/wm9oTZWUAo

— Carlos Boozer (@MisterCBooz) October 24, 2023

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link

lol he looks like a video game

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:47 (eight months ago) link

nice

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:55 (eight months ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link

Did he use a marker to draw a beard on himself this time?

Iguodalai Lama (Leee), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:03 (eight months ago) link

i want to use this thread to vouch for hoop tiktokers jokicjoestar and pablo escoball

oatly carmichael (m bison), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:36 (eight months ago) link

Ok I gave up and just marked them all as listened to. Except the Hollinger & Duncan that dropped while I was doing it. Can’t miss the rookie scale extensions talk.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link

I listen to hours and hours of NBA pods every week. I think the thing that annoys me most is how obsessed they are with distinguishing themselves from others with evaluations. I'm higher on this guy than most, I'm lower on this guy than most, I am far from the consensus. But really, they all say that same thing with minor variations.

― Jeff, Friday, June 23, 2023 1:20 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is all i notice now lol

I’m incredibly high on Timberwolves rookie Leonard Miller. pic.twitter.com/As81t4SYId

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) October 24, 2023

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:52 (eight months ago) link

you gotta differentiate yourself in the marketplace of basketball ideas, which is particularly easy if youre kevin oconnor since you can just say something very dumb

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:57 (eight months ago) link

usually yes but in this case let's hear him out

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 22:07 (eight months ago) link

love to buy a stupid gaudy microphone so i can participate in the take economy

Clay, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 22:09 (eight months ago) link

great discussion on inside the NBA tonight about the ways in which the guys were able to improve their games over their first few years in the league. shaq and chuck talking about big man play in particular within the context of wemby felt insightful

also 10 mins prior to that chuck, upon learning that the suns play in phoenix again on thursday, incredulously argued that he’d never heard of such a thing before, even as ernie repeatedly told him that the league has been doing same city home and homes for the last few years

and now for me the NBA is officially back

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 05:24 (seven months ago) link

the spurs** not the suns, sorry

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 05:25 (seven months ago) link

i'm glad this thread revived today because i've been wanting somewhere to say that i enjoy the vast majority of the player / former player pods, but i would like to never hear Gilbert Arenas speak again

alpine static, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 07:04 (seven months ago) link

enjoying the monica mcnutt mark jones pairing for the pelicans okc game tonight, shes funny and is into the game no dumb stuff, first national broadcast

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:19 (seven months ago) link

yeah i was happy to hear her! and mark jones is always solid.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:33 (seven months ago) link

they had good chemistry

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:34 (seven months ago) link

B/R Sources: While Danny Green was disappointed by how the final days of his tenure in Philadelphia unfolded, there remains an affinity between the three-time NBA champion and 76ers organization. Neither side has ruled out a return should a roster spot become available.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) November 3, 2023



insane tweet

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 06:36 (seven months ago) link

B/R Sources: While Danny Green was disappointed by how the final days of his tenure in Philadelphia unfolded, there remains an affinity between the three-time NBA champion and 76ers organization. Neither side has ruled out a return should a roster spot become available.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) November 3, 2023



insane tweet

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 06:36 (seven months ago) link

why has the nba tonight crew been calling richard jefferson the director of ambience, i mean he does look like a director of ambience but i missed the genesis of the joke

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:33 (seven months ago) link

i saw channing frye on NBA TV last night after the wemby game and thought he was really good

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:47 (seven months ago) link

yeah i thought so too, he seemed normal

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:48 (seven months ago) link

windhorst was absolutely on fire on the most recent hoop collective pod about disappointing teams, sounding like the most disappointed parent ever over the bucks' defensive numbers so far and then doing a great bit about how the bulls are in a rebuild but don't know it yet.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:13 (seven months ago) link

I really love that pod even though they’re all such dorks

k3vin k., Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:19 (seven months ago) link

they're the best

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:36 (seven months ago) link

what is this weird Manningcast thing called Hoopervision with Quentin Richardson, Dorrell Wright and Metta World Peace?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:47 (seven months ago) link

feel like the thing that really separates the hoop collective from the pack is how seriously they take the topic, the nba is meaningful to them on an emotional level, it might be somewhat schtick but they do it good its convincing, and its not just like some sports radio yelling or hot takes bs its still analytical, windy being so disappointed in the bucks defense is the perfect example, but they all do it macmahon will get seriously exasperated at kyries antics, where every other smart guy pod is all hey luka is very good isnt that neat, and the more insidery stuff they get into behind the scenes drama the wider view of how it all works together etc is served well by the seriousness too, and that stuff is just good to mix in with the actual basketball talk too one can only take so much discussion of shot charts and so forth

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 16:21 (seven months ago) link

windy is even super serious about orchestrating the pod he wants to make it good and pro he cuts people off all the time like well get to that later, also i like how they kind of hate each other

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 16:23 (seven months ago) link

yeah they all do really care, and although i don’t think he would ever call it schtick, something windhorst has figured out is that sounding overly serious/invested in the bucks defense or a royce o’neill trade or whatever is how you make the audience care about those things too.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:01 (seven months ago) link

its dramatic which who doesnt like a lil drama

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:28 (seven months ago) link

they have great frenemy chemistry, you get the sense they do like each other a lot and enjoy needling each other. it’s the best when they make fun of windy because he’ll allow himself to get mad about it he’s a pretty easy target

k3vin k., Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:10 (seven months ago) link

i like to think you can tell it's all in good fun and they're genuine friends bcuz they had a whole discussion at the end of a recent episode about how pelton replaced mcmahon on the post-harden trade pod & how windy called mcmahaon and cleared it w/ him but mcmahon was still talking about how they're already kicking him out of the crew. also windy says at one point "this won't make the pod" and i think it was like an extra 10-12 mins that ended up making it

the combination of them being smart about basketball in general plus being well sourced throughout the league plus actively covering beats and talking directly to players all season plus having a good chemistry together and being funny guys (mcmahaon is really quick witted on the fly) makes it the best basketball media product for me

the other thing i like about them is they really don't let teams off the hook. i was listening to the hollinger and duncan episode about the harden trade and they were slobbering all over morey for getting more for harden than he gave up to acquire him and how the sixers have all these options and this expiring and that expiring. meanwhile neither of them stopped and were like -- oh yeah and let's mention that both seasons ended in massive failure that embarrassed the city of philadelphia and wasted two of embiid's best years. the espn guys are more able to see the big emotional picture the way fans tend to while also being some of the best at covering the league down to the granular level

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:59 (seven months ago) link

windhorst and bontemps in particular have alluded to spending time together off the clock, like i think they mentioned going to a dodgers game this past season in LA--they seem like they're tight enough to know exactly how to drive each other nuts in a way that's usually fun and entertaining.

john and nate unfortunately still have a blind spot re: morey like a lot of guys who came up with an analytics bent, despite the fact that he hasn't been good at his job for a while now.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 November 2023 19:15 (seven months ago) link

ok this appears to be sweet, it looks like if I start the game on League Pass through a VPN then I can disconnect from the VPN after it starts

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 01:59 (seven months ago) link

where can i find a good primer on vpns and specifically my intention to set up league pass through a roku. i have grudgingly accepted that while me 20 years ago could find my way around a computer with torrents and whatnot, i am now computer illiterate.

so ridiculous, in my zip code celtics are blacked out on league pass, though the one that starts about a 10 minute walk from me has no restrictions. i've been paying for cable as part of a triple play situation that just wasn't worth the effort to mess with but it's time. i intend to join the 21st century of hoop fans

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 04:16 (seven months ago) link

I don't know if there's a way to use Roku and get League Pass local games w/a VPN. I'm using Surfshark, a VPN chrome extension (I paid for it) and watching League Pass on my Macbook

this says you may be able to use a VPN on your router instead of your Roku

https://nordvpn.com/unblock/roku/#:~:text=No%2C%20you%20can't%20use,as%20well%20as%20other%20devices.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:09 (seven months ago) link

I pay for YouTube TV to get national TV games/Bulls games. And league pass for everything else. So annoying. And expensive. But I cancel YouTube TV after basketball season.

Jeff, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:33 (seven months ago) link

Does anyone else’s league pass streaming skip all the time?? I don’t have the issue with any other streaming service, but the NBA app on my tv sucks so bad.

Jeff, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:34 (seven months ago) link

why dont you get league pass via youtubetv

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:39 (seven months ago) link

xpost it's not great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:55 (seven months ago) link

why dont you get league pass via youtubetv


I realized that I should have after I had already pad for LP for the whole season! Although, it was cheaper, BUT AT WHAT COST.

Jeff, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 21:52 (seven months ago) link

sad, if its really annoying they do cut the price to $50 half way through the season iirc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:56 (seven months ago) link

I do remember having league pass issues at some point in the past though I can’t say I’ve really had a problem at all over the past couple seasons. maybe my problems were mainly in browser — I only watch on roku or on my phone these days. and it’s significantly cheaper than it was a few years ago

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 November 2023 23:02 (seven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/HbrA4el.png

windy dialing in from the void

lag∞n, Monday, 13 November 2023 16:40 (seven months ago) link

haha the floating head

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 13 November 2023 16:42 (seven months ago) link

just when you think he's past his prime, Shams comes up with a classic

Developing: NBA teams are probing the availability of Bulls two-time All-Star Zach LaVine and there is increased openness from both sides about exploring a trade, sources say.

probe that availability, teams - the openness about exploring is increasing (per sources)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:00 (seven months ago) link

its very funny that he works for the nytimes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:04 (seven months ago) link

did not realize austin rivers was out of the league and on espn

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:17 (seven months ago) link

Tried the Rachel Nichols/Boogie Cousins podcast... Cousins brings very little to the table imo

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:33 (seven months ago) link

BREAKING: Mark Jackson has been dismissed from his job at MSG and the Knicks have banned him from the team plane, per @AndrewMarchand

“MSG Network planned on having Jackson occasionally fill in for Clyde Frazier this season, but Knicks management, led by team president Leon… pic.twitter.com/fTf7hijvmh

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) November 15, 2023

lol shocked he’s rubbing coworkers the wrong way

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:01 (seven months ago) link

incredible how badly he fucked himself over in golden state

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:14 (seven months ago) link

interesting tidbit, normal org team pres doesnt talk to the press

Rose does not speak to the media.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:16 (seven months ago) link

i also do not speak to the media

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 20:22 (seven months ago) link

smh

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 20:26 (seven months ago) link

i miss JVG. doc rivers is not hitting

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 25 November 2023 01:30 (seven months ago) link

crossover!

With ESPN and TNT each airing one NBA In-Season Tournament semifinal game on December 7, the two networks are combining both their studio and game coverage for the games.

ESPN’s coverage begins at 4 p.m. with NBA Countdown. The cast of Malika Andrews, Stephen A. Smith, Michael Wilbon, Bob Myers, and Adrian Wojnarowski will be on-site in Las Vegas, and they’ll be joined “for an extended segment” by TNT’s Inside the NBA crew of Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley, and Shaquille O’Neal.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 20:59 (six months ago) link

the television event of the century

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:10 (six months ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:18 (six months ago) link

Kevin O'Conner published this three days ago in the Ringer power rankings

4. Los Angeles Lakers
10-7 record, plus-0.5 net rating
Preseason ranking: no. 5

Austin Reaves has been put in more of a pass-first role coming off the bench in recent weeks, averaging more than six minutes of possession time and more than six assists per game. Reaves is effectively a 15-6-6 guy right now, but I wonder whether the Lakers could be getting more out of him by ramping up his usage even more. Reaves allows the Lakers to use LeBron James as a screener in different ways—on top of his unfathomable on-ball dominance at 38 years old—which has led to some cutting opportunities in what’s becoming a juicy chemistry. And Reaves is also finding Anthony Davis in his spots, using his own gravity as an offensive threat to deliver the ball to AD. Following a slow start to the year, Reaves is becoming the third star the Lakers need. And soon, injured players will return to the lineup. Things are trending up.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2023 04:33 (six months ago) link

i have a lot of love for hollinger & duncan, but i'm listening to the new org rankings podcast and they always do this incredibly maddening thing (hollinger in particular) when they talk about the sixers where they repeatedly praise morey for "getting out of" the ben simmmons & james harden situations and building "good" rosters but never mention that the whole point of trading for harden was to get embiid past round 2 of the playoffs and not only did they fail to do that, they failed in spectacular ways that brought shame upon the entire city of philadelphia. like, i just think the reality of what took place on the court should perhaps be mentioned maybe even just in passing

their ranking of the sixers org (have not appeared in the conference finals since the year 2000) ahead of the warriors org (4 titles in 7 years) was like, oh you guys really do have trouble seeing the forest for the trees when you get into transaction evaluation mode

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:12 (six months ago) link

the mind control moreys got over the basketball commentariat should be studied in a laboratory

lag∞n, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:17 (six months ago) link

I thought the rankings were only in the rough timeframe since their last org rankings, not last x number of years. Not that I agree with them, but if you're just looking at current state and the outlook, it is a more sound argument.

Jeff, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:26 (six months ago) link

well they obviously do them yearly but listening to the convos they certainly seem to be taking the entire scope of the front office/organization's work into account, w/ some obvious weighting towards more recent history. but sixers-celtics game 7 was just this summer!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:28 (six months ago) link

nate did astutely note that ppl were going crazy over the sixers offseason last year esp the PJ tucker acquisition and actually he was harmful to them in the playoffs bcuz he is not guarded, yet this didn't seem to effect his opinion of the franchise much. he should've pushed much harder on this point after hollinger was like "tucker provided good value on his deal"

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:30 (six months ago) link

i was glad nate pushed back even a little bit on the idea that the sixers are a good organization

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:53 (six months ago) link

just what we asked for

Looks like Dwight Howard is starting a podcast…

Y’all listening? 👀 pic.twitter.com/6N1ez3Cowm

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) December 8, 2023

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:01 (six months ago) link

congrats to Jermaine O’Neal’s daughter, Asjia, on being drafted No. 1 overall in the Pro Volleyball Federation Draft 👏 pic.twitter.com/BeeYSuTLaG

— Indiana Pacers (@Pacers) December 12, 2023

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 14:44 (six months ago) link

enjoying the new hoop collective pod w windy, spears & bobby marks all telling stories of being on or covering extremely horrible NBA teams. at one point marks says with a straight face that he believes courtney lee was permanently scarred for the rest of his career by being traded from a magic team that made the finals to a nets team that started the next season 0-18. which, yeah…

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:13 (six months ago) link

It was a good ep, especially considering it had Spears on it. I feel like my IQ drops 10 points every time I hear him speak.

Jeff, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:26 (six months ago) link

i have been living under a rock, so maybe everyone else already knows, but jason concepcion and shea serrano have been doing a hoops podcast this season. it's called six trophies b/c they give out six "trophies" every week to stuff that happened, which as far podcast concepts go is eh, whatever, but if jason and shea talking about the week in hoops sounds good to you it is exactly what you'd expect.

circles, Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:03 (six months ago) link

bobby’s stories on this pod are killing me. he went to the kardashian/humphries wedding!!

every time he does war stories from his nets days i think to myself if anyone deserves to live in florida and pull down a couple hundred grand a year to talk about the salary cap on tv it’s this guy.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:02 (six months ago) link

i dont understand how isaiah thomas a guy who everyone has hated all along and has been part of multiple scandals and fuckups is still on tv when will he go away

lag∞n, Friday, 15 December 2023 00:13 (six months ago) link

Barbosa had the pleasure of seeing the Timberwolves play the Orlando Magic when he went on a trip to Disney World in 2018, but he’s yet to make the pilgrimage to Minneapolis. “Unfortunately, I’ve never been in Minnesota, it’s my big dream,” he says. “My connection with the region is precisely because of the Timberwolves, even though it is miles away.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/timberwolves-brazil-nba-twitter-1234931827/

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:55 (six months ago) link

Wolves Brasil are the greatest

Shaq becomes more of a moron every day, also someone mentioned this in the comments but he's totally rewriting who he was, he acts like his persona was some kind of grim enforcer tough guy not a super talented goofy kid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIN_zts-utU

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:58 (six months ago) link

being on tv and forced to have a comment on everything probably makes you lose some perspective and end up staking some bad takes, but that man there appears to have cte

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:10 (six months ago) link

can they just permanently replace him with candace parker already, would raise the level of discourse sooo much

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:12 (six months ago) link

Chuck: "You can't choke people and punch them in the face"

Shaq: "Yes you can."

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:27 (six months ago) link

shaq was a gentle giant guys would foul the hell out of him and he wouldnt react, except for the one time he swung at brad miller lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:35 (six months ago) link

I have CTE now after listening to Shaq.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:26 (six months ago) link

Chuck: "You can't choke people and punch them in the face"

Shaq: "Yes you can."

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:27 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ernie: "Let's go to commercial!"

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:23 (six months ago) link

charles barkley: Now listen these IDF videos they, theyre blowing up empty buildings! they’re putting the blue triangle on there, these buildings empty man, ain’t no Hamas. Meanwhy, these Palanchunians —

Shaq (in tears) These what Chuck

Ernie, tersely: Palestinians. Continue

— brian (@brianonhere) December 20, 2023

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:52 (six months ago) link

For the record… pic.twitter.com/8JTSeEswg4

— Becky Hammon (@BeckyHammon) December 22, 2023



becky hammon feeling compelled to apologize for and further clarify her statement that you likely can’t win a title w jalen brunson as your best player is prob not a great sign for ongoing gender diversity in basketball commentary…

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 22 December 2023 12:44 (six months ago) link

she’s right!

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Friday, 22 December 2023 15:50 (six months ago) link

the amount of people coming for her over an absolutely correct statement and tripping over their dicks to say "WHAT ABOUT ISIAH THIOMAS HUH CHECKMATE" makes me want to restrict the first amendment for cishet men to only those who have received written testimonials from at least 3 non-related non cishet men that they are not in fact pieces of shit (otherwise str8 to jail)

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 22 December 2023 15:51 (six months ago) link

shouldn’t be controversial that the knicks are prob as good now as they can ever be (more or less) with brunson as their best player. second round ceiling with maybe an ecf if things break their way.

as a knicks fan i am very ok with having that kind of team, for now, after years of crapitude

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 December 2023 16:33 (six months ago) link

Seriously. I would love for the bulls to have perpetual 4 to 6 seed potential. Eventually you could luck into a conference finals. That’s goddamn hope.

Jeff, Friday, 22 December 2023 17:40 (six months ago) link

she’s right!

ofc she is. what was wrong here wasn't her expert opinion that a team with Brunson as the best player isn't constructed to win a title, but the disrespect of letting it go public. she understands that.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:57 (six months ago) link

yeah if youre some grubby internet writer its ok to say stuff like that but generally the talking heads stay away from being quite that pointed

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:05 (six months ago) link

not totally sure if shes right with the concept that you cant win a title if your best player is the smallest player on the court, i mean how much smaller is brunson than curry, if brunson had currys skills how much worse would he be idk, i do think it makes it harder maybe even much harder but prob not impossible, obvs bruson isnt in the 1a player discussion with embiid et al lol tho

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:08 (six months ago) link

now im getting mad again about not having accurate info on how big nba players are

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:10 (six months ago) link

why cant we have da data

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:10 (six months ago) link

i think she mentioned curry as an outlier originally idk

micah, Saturday, 23 December 2023 00:48 (six months ago) link

Yes she said curry in the original quote and Isiah on the followup I believe. Lol at this whol thing tho.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Saturday, 23 December 2023 01:08 (six months ago) link

Curry is without peer or parallel as a guard, a first ballot unanimous hall of famer, and unquestionably one of the top ten all time NBA players of all time. Yup, you can build a title team around him.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 23 December 2023 02:04 (six months ago) link

all time, even

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 23 December 2023 02:04 (six months ago) link

Paul Pierce says Jaquez is “making a name for himself” after calling him by the wrong name https://t.co/l6QTTSYWme

— Five Reasons Sports 🏀🏈⚾️🏒⚽️ (@5ReasonsSports) December 23, 2023

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 10:36 (six months ago) link

The explosive OKC duo of SGA and Jalen Williams combined for 72 PTS in the Thunder's win over the Knicks 🌩️

SGA: 36 PTS, 8 AST, 7 REB
Jalen: 36 PTS, 5 3PM, 76% FG pic.twitter.com/nFcOEapW3c

— NBA (@NBA) December 28, 2023



watching this and laughing at the OKC announcer apparently calling them “SGA” and “j-dub” for the entire game and then switching to “jalen williams” when he hits the big 3 off the chet block… reminds me of that ILX thread “calling someone by their real name when shit gets heated” or whatever. but i’ve watched a lot local broadcasts of various sports in my life and i can’t recall an announcer using nicknames/abbreviations for guys, even home team players, this repeatedly. (note: i’ve watched zero mins of OKC home broadcasts in my life)

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 13:27 (five months ago) link

The explosive OKC duo of SGA and Jalen Williams combined for 72 PTS in the Thunder's win over the Knicks 🌩️

SGA: 36 PTS, 8 AST, 7 REB
Jalen: 36 PTS, 5 3PM, 76% FG pic.twitter.com/nFcOEapW3c

— NBA (@NBA) December 28, 2023



watching this and laughing at the OKC announcer apparently calling them “SGA” and “j-dub” repeatedly and then switching to “jalen williams” when he hits the big 3 off the chet block… reminds me of that ILX thread “calling someone by their real name when shit gets heated” or whatever. but i’ve watched a lot local broadcasts of various sports in my life and i can’t recall an announcer using nicknames/abbreviations for guys, even home team players, this repeatedly. (note: i’ve watched zero mins of OKC home broadcasts in my life)

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 13:27 (five months ago) link

The explosive OKC duo of SGA and Jalen Williams combined for 72 PTS in the Thunder's win over the Knicks 🌩️

SGA: 36 PTS, 8 AST, 7 REB
Jalen: 36 PTS, 5 3PM, 76% FG pic.twitter.com/nFcOEapW3c

— NBA (@NBA) December 28, 2023



watching this and laughing at the OKC announcer apparently calling them “SGA” and “j-dub” for the entire game and then switching to “jalen williams” when he hits the big 3 off the chet block… reminds me of that ILX thread “calling someone by their real name when shit gets heated” or whatever. but i’ve watched a lot local broadcasts of various sports in my life and i can’t recall an announcer using nicknames/abbreviations for guys, even home team players, this repeatedly. (note: i’ve watched zero mins of OKC home broadcasts in my life)

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 13:27 (five months ago) link

this is now triggering memories of heat announcer eric reid going out of his way to not call “dean wade” by his full name because it sounds too similar to “d wade” lol

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 13:29 (five months ago) link

shai’s full last name has to be murder for play by play guys trying to keep some rhythm to their calls

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 December 2023 13:32 (five months ago) link

for sure but i feel like most announcers go out of their way to i.e. say giannis’ last name instead of calling him giannis, but that might be a respect thing for national or road team announcers. i think the bucks guy calls him giannis a lot. i think it’s the nickname aspect that is funny to me

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link

i have noticed that w/giannis, i assumed there was some effort put in to combat any perception that people were avoiding learning how to pronounce african surname.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 December 2023 14:05 (five months ago) link

shai’s full last name has to be murder for play by play guys trying to keep some rhythm to their calls

― call all destroyer, Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:32 AM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

+ they have two jalen williamses so they go with the nicknames for those guys almost exclusively

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 December 2023 14:18 (five months ago) link

yeah that makes sense tho i was also like, im not sure any thunder fans are confusing those two anymore… but calling a guy j dub a whole game must feel like you’re getting away with a crime as a play by play guy

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 15:11 (five months ago) link

just jalen williams stuff

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 December 2023 15:15 (five months ago) link

i had to block the name "gilbert arenas" on twitter, felt like he was being forced on me every 5th post and hes reached that perk level of nba talking head dumb ass

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 5 January 2024 19:54 (five months ago) link

hes even worse than perk hes like perk if he didnt have to worry about keeping his job at espn

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2024 19:56 (five months ago) link

true

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 5 January 2024 19:58 (five months ago) link

interesting mix of characters

Netflix is creating a new NBA docuseries modeled after its NFL "Quarterback" show, per @ShamsCharania🍿

The first season will feature episodes on LeBron, Tatum, Butler, Ant, and Sabonis 🔥 pic.twitter.com/cjDBzWQP3K

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) January 10, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:16 (five months ago) link

cracking up at this news coming out 1 day after jimmy told the press that he doesn’t care if he is made ineligible for end of season awards over missing games

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:31 (five months ago) link

you only need to play seventeen games to be a quarterback haha

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:25 (five months ago) link

oh my god

Stephen A Smith on jason Whitlock 😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/l5U29Ktoi6

— Shannonnn sharpes Burner (PARODY Account) (@shannonsharpeee) January 11, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:32 (five months ago) link

this is incredible

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 12 January 2024 00:44 (five months ago) link

i waited all day to watch that and man it really delivered

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 January 2024 01:53 (five months ago) link

Visceral

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 12 January 2024 05:08 (five months ago) link

Stephen A is such an incredible performer

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 January 2024 05:12 (five months ago) link

yeah very unique talent

I love that this clip went viral. even the people I know who hate him are like "okay maybe there's something to this guy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOf3FZdtb-g

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 05:17 (five months ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 12 January 2024 05:20 (five months ago) link

"I went to see Taylor Swift!"

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 12 January 2024 13:51 (five months ago) link

"You get within a mile of his presence, wrap your arms around yourself to protect your soul" is one of the coldest lines ever delivered

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 15:21 (five months ago) link

I’ve never heard a commentator get mad at his partner on live TV like this 😭
pic.twitter.com/F6sJS01z53

— Mink Flow (@currypistonn) January 17, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 05:09 (five months ago) link

Under the terms of the restructuring agreement, Amazon will make a minority investment in Diamond and enter into a commercial arrangement to provide access to Diamond’s content via Prime Video.

Customers will be able to access their local team’s content on Prime Video channels where Diamond has rights. Pricing and availability will be announced at a later date. Regional sports content will also remain available on cable and satellite providers.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:22 (five months ago) link

nice

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:28 (five months ago) link

here it comes

big tech is going to own all pro sports broadcast rights in like 2 years

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:35 (five months ago) link

that one is a good deal 4 fans tho as bally has been so bad at actually letting people watch the games

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:40 (five months ago) link

one of the big streaming companies deciding that there is value in local sports and building that into their platforms would be a good outcome for us all, i think

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:49 (five months ago) link

short of the leagues themselves subsidizing every broadcast, doing away with blackouts and just selling direct to consumer but that still seems pretty far away

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 17:50 (five months ago) link

another x player pod

It’s all love now 🤝🏾 @swish41 😂 Episode 1 of “The Why with Dwyane Wade” now available on my Youtube channel and all podcast platforms! Click the link in my bio to tune in 🎙️ pic.twitter.com/4i60OF3CuH

— DWade (@DwyaneWade) January 18, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 19 January 2024 00:46 (five months ago) link

Sounds like everyone else who was still at SI got laid off today :(

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 19 January 2024 17:20 (five months ago) link

yeah i think it's official...so sad :(

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 January 2024 19:01 (five months ago) link

I’ll be checking into the next hoops collective

Luka Dončić and Tim MacMahon go back and forth about him tweeting about Luka asking for a fan to be ejected in the second half, after cursing at him the whole game.

Luka: “You’ll be the first one to always put something bad about me.” pic.twitter.com/eAIRbKyVkn

— Landon Thomas (@sixfivelando) January 25, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 06:04 (five months ago) link

Luka is such a bitch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2024 06:15 (five months ago) link

such best player at a rich high school vibes

Clay, Thursday, 25 January 2024 06:36 (five months ago) link

Every kg/pp clip I’ve seen this year has been incredible Hahaa

KG GOT ME CRYING 😂😂😂😂

“Tatum will put your ass in the mix” 🐶 pic.twitter.com/B6d4ISMZUz

— Hoop Fiends 🏀💉 (@hoopfiends) January 24, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 08:53 (five months ago) link

KG's face when he says, "WHO?!" is too much.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 January 2024 12:27 (five months ago) link

silly guys

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 14:16 (five months ago) link

“Luka, you tired?” the fan said. “Get on a treadmill.”

Those were the words, or a close approximation of them that those of us on media row and the fans behind us all agreed upon, that prompted Dončić to point out the fan to team security. The fan had been heckling Dončić for the entire night, but speaking as one media member who was seated there, what I did hear from him — which, as a media member often tuning out distractions around me, was not all of it — was not egregious compared to other fan incidents. I did not hear this fan push beyond Dončić’s on-court play. Two Mavericks fans seated directly behind me also said the Phoenix fan’s words seemed too mild to warrant Dončić’s attention.

Dončić disagreed.

“That was not the only thing he said,” Dončić said afterward. When one reporter pushed back, saying that we were seated near him, Dončić replied, “So that was the only time he said something? The only thing? I was hearing him the whole first half.”

The fan was not ejected. The stadium security asked him to watch the remainder of the game from the concourse, and he complied, citing the Suns’ 25-point lead and inevitable win as a reason he had no problem doing so. Later, Dončić said, “I never would eject a fan (who) pays for tickets, but I had enough. It was a little bit of frustration.”

It was a moment born from the team’s negative 41-point swing, one that turned what might have been another emphatic win against the Suns into a lackluster defeat.

“It’s fine,” Dončić said afterward. “It’s all over.”

"LUKA YOU TIRED, GET ON THE TREADMILL!"

Luka Doncic reaction to fan incoming.

Luka Doncic has since pointed out the fan, who is being talked to by arena staff.

Kyrie Irving walked over and was looking at the fan, who just left.#Suns 100 #Mavs 78 after 3. pic.twitter.com/6npgrJhj6J

— Duane Rankin (@DuaneRankin) January 25, 2024

total bs from luka, right after i called him not that evil smh

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:00 (five months ago) link

https://theathletic.com/5226107/2024/01/25/luka-doncic-suns-mavericks-fan/

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:01 (five months ago) link

pretty funny to see a bunch of the mavs are really figuring it out articles followed immediately by the mavs are unraveling ones, theyre just a mediocre team that always has a punchers chance because of luka its not that hard to figure out

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:06 (five months ago) link

very diplomatic piece by the athletic mavs reporter after the celtics game being like these are the things that separate the top level contenders from those a mere hairs breath behind them, do mavs people really think theyre contenders lol whats going on over there

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:10 (five months ago) link

luka westbrook

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:31 (five months ago) link

beefing with macmahon is a poor choice lol, grumpy guy with a national audience whos not going to be intimidated and is prob actually enjoying the whole thing

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:33 (five months ago) link

right the guy’s nickname refers to his coverage of the mavs being so adversarial that the owner banned him from the arena, who has the institutional support of the biggest sports media company in the world….. this is a “keep your enemies closer” situation but luka is 23 or whatever so what does he know

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:37 (five months ago) link

a lot of luka drama this week over complete BS huh

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:37 (five months ago) link

i wonder what his reputation is amongst the leagues best players. doesnt seem like any of them are rushing to play with him. kyrie seems to be singing his praises but kyrie speaks truth about 30% of the time.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:44 (five months ago) link

forgot to post this kidd clip from a couple months back where he was on full tilt towards macmahon

JASON KIDD: "I'm giving you a f***** answer. It's alright to write positive stuff. People will read your positive s***. You don't always have to be negative. The world is already negative enough. Let's see some positive stuff on positive people..." pic.twitter.com/hAzOqF55Ld

— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) November 29, 2023

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:47 (five months ago) link

boo hoo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:48 (five months ago) link

love to do leadership

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:49 (five months ago) link

i wonder what his reputation is amongst the leagues best players. doesnt seem like any of them are rushing to play with him.

― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, January 25, 2024 12:44 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

even if they like and admire him who wants to play with a guy who has the ball all the time

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:50 (five months ago) link

macmahon is awesome

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:50 (five months ago) link

yeah respect to him

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:53 (five months ago) link

the mavs organization is full of babies because their owner is a baby, it’s really the ideal spot for mcmahon to do his thing lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:07 (five months ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:19 (five months ago) link

yeah for sure haa

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:39 (five months ago) link

hey lagoon - i think this was you who posted it, it can't find it but was there some way to get around the espn+ paywall using espn's australian site??

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:44 (five months ago) link

yes you need to use a vpn but mostly i use this site to bypass paywalls these days https://archive.ph/VCnuk

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:52 (five months ago) link

oh that archive site is nice thanks

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:56 (five months ago) link

https://t.co/A0RJu2hQK2 pic.twitter.com/v2tq54RL4f

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) January 26, 2024

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:41 (five months ago) link

lmao the split screen at the end

lag∞n, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:20 (five months ago) link

I love how Stephen A will have a take on anything, he'll never back down

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 January 2024 18:42 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

NEWS: JJ Redick has emerged as the favorite to join Mike Breen and Doris Burke on ABC/ESPN NBA Finals team, The Athletic has learned.https://t.co/hX10zBwKZq

— Andrew Marchand (@AndrewMarchand) February 9, 2024



this is the only context where JJ isn’t insufferable & i usually find him to be pretty great actually so this is welcome news especially considering it means richard jefferson was passed over

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 February 2024 19:56 (four months ago) link

yeah def way better than most candidates, and even when jj is insufferable hes at least serious about what hes doing, the only thing where im like whatre you even doing is when he gets on his high horse to defend players against legit criticism

lag∞n, Friday, 9 February 2024 20:20 (four months ago) link

https://t.co/6fsNpINsnY pic.twitter.com/Ksc7KrHjWR

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) February 10, 2024

you actually do have to hand it to him

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 February 2024 04:14 (four months ago) link

Love that Kenny smith is getting torched on Twitter for how bad he was last night. I watched most of it cos my kids are into all the all star stuff now and he was consistently dropping horrible comments are just repeating lame sayings over and over. Ridiculously annoying and cringe inducing.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:29 (four months ago) link

Love that Kenny smith is getting torched on Twitter for how bad he was last night. I watched most of it cos my kids are into all the all star stuff now and he was consistently dropping horrible comments are just repeating lame sayings over and over. Ridiculously annoying and cringe inducing.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:29 (four months ago) link

so unnecessary, why did him and reggie need to talk over everything

symsymsym, Sunday, 18 February 2024 20:00 (four months ago) link

his comments on the steph and sabrina thing were embarrassing, especially for someone who usually seems reasonable

call all destroyer, Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:16 (four months ago) link

So bad. So out of touch.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:23 (four months ago) link

lol get him

JJ Redick calls out his former head coach Doc Rivers, who he will be replacing on ESPN/ABC's NBA Finals coverage.

"I've seen the trend for years. The trend is always making excuses. Doc, we get it. Taking over a team in the middle of a season is hard... it's always an excuse.… pic.twitter.com/NeTGnP1Suw

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) February 20, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:50 (four months ago) link

Minor league baseball team to host Brian Windhorst bobblehead giveaway https://t.co/8lavdWXvQD pic.twitter.com/BbMExYmN2c

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) February 20, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:58 (four months ago) link

gonna be a hot item on ebay down the road

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:59 (four months ago) link

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/tim-legler-new-course-third-act-jj-redick-all-city-network.html

legler seems like a good dude, the kind of guy who should be a lot more visible if the NBA media landscape were (like the NFL’s) serious about people who actually like the game and have something to say… unfortunately as we know they’re in a pretty horrible place.

adam mares is my guy too for nuggets reasons obv, i think he’s great and I’m sure he’ll move on to some bigger national roles sometime in the next few years

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:23 (four months ago) link

yeah legler is should have a much higher profile hes serious about the game is up on the current basketball thought while having an old school player vibe, hes perfect really, but espn would rather have perk talking about how the celtics dont post up enough while they post up more than any team that doesnt have jokic

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:35 (four months ago) link

perks accent is really crazy, he's not even remotely entertaining. and if you're not smart + not entertaining, how do you last?

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:45 (four months ago) link

i kinda find perk entertaining but its not enough to put up with his bs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:47 (four months ago) link

you have homer duties to not be a complete perk hater i understand

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:55 (four months ago) link

idk perk goes out of his way hate on the celtics hes kind of burned his homer cred

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 00:02 (four months ago) link

i'm not sure we need another national nba media thing but mares is sharp and seems to have some sense of the business side of things

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:52 (four months ago) link

this could be a response to a bunch of stuff (actually just a clip of barkley on stephen a smith's podcast) but i wonder if the NBA ever thinks about the fact that like 80 percent of the media personalities around the league spend all their time about how bad basketball is.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:41 (three months ago) link

this tnt tuesday set has a high table instead of a desk and theyre on those high bar chairs then they gave them lil plexiglass boxes to rest their feet on, odd

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:25 (three months ago) link

i stooped and listened to bill simmons talk about the celtics only to find out he calls joe mazzulla joe mazz lmao, idk if thats a thing that other people call him or just a simmonsism but i think if youre gonna do it youve gotta go all the way... joey mazz

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:56 (three months ago) link

ayyyy i'm coachin here

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link

look at this fuckin delicious slob play im drawin up right now

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:02 (three months ago) link

i had to skip that bc i can’t deal with simmons talking about jaylen brown

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:02 (three months ago) link

i usually skip all simmons but youtube kept showing it to me and i was weak

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:05 (three months ago) link

what does he say about jaylen he was pretty positive in this one i think, i wasnt hanging on every word tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link

I was listening to him and Ryan Russillo once a couple weeks ago and Russillo offhand mentioned going to a Tool concert by himself and that is some seriously sad shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:07 (three months ago) link

there is a bit in the most recent bill & rusillo pod from sunday where rusillo begins to make an analogy -- i forget the context now but it doesn't matter -- to when you go out for dinner with a friend after the friend has been golfing, and you can tell that the friend is hammered, because he was golfing, but the friend is saying at the dinner table that he isn't hammered. you could tell like 10 seconds into this that it dawned on him that nobody would have a flying fuck what he was talking about but he had to keep going... it was a nice window into his interior life

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:21 (three months ago) link

lmao good stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:24 (three months ago) link

im not really familiar with his work but i recall someone on twitter collected all his stories of bad things his friends have done to him slept with his girlfriends etc i dont remember all of it but it was a long list, their conclusion was rusillo is not a person people like or respect and that hes prob not a good guy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:28 (three months ago) link

not sure why he put that info out there hes an oversharer or something he wrote book idk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:29 (three months ago) link

I really only know him from Ringer stuff but he isn't too bad. He at least tries to make arguments and analyze stuff.

His podcast backgrounds suggest that maybe he is a bit OCD? Never a thing out of place or a sign of any life whatsoever.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link

Bill/Ryen is high in unintentional comedy. Reading /r/billsimmons afterwards also funny.

Jeff, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link

Dunking on KOC is low hanging fruit but just thought folks like to know he has a column today about Milwaukee that says

The national TV game against Boston on March 20 is the big one. If the Bucks are still rolling then, the national discourse will undoubtedly be about who the true favorite is in the East. Truth is, it might already be the Bucks.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:48 (three months ago) link

he loves being wrong

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:49 (three months ago) link

w/ prose as nimble as a battleship

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:50 (three months ago) link

Truth is, it might already be the Bucks.

But almost certainly it's not. We won't get into that now.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:51 (three months ago) link

russillo is pretty open about the life damage that results in someone becoming a 50 year old unmarried podcaster/aspiring and so far unsuccessful screenwriter

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:14 (three months ago) link

yeah I haven’t dived too deep into his biography or whatever seems like a reasonably nice meathead on the podcasts at least

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:41 (three months ago) link

i definitely want to read one of his screenplays and hate the hell out of it

Clay, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:54 (three months ago) link

listened to lowe y mares talk about the nuggs they went through some potential playoff matchups talked about okc for five mins and dont think they mentioned shais name once, seems like an oversight

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link

the amount of Gilbert Arenas garbage I'm seeing on Twitter constantly now really sucks

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:57 (three months ago) link

perfect guy for the X app

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2024 16:00 (three months ago) link

theres only one must listen player hosted pod

Donovan Mitchell tells Thanasis Antetokunmpo on The Thanalysis Podcast that the TD Garden is one of his favorite arenas to play in:#Celtics pic.twitter.com/4Pnb0nSqkc

— The Celtics Files (@CelticsFiles) March 1, 2024

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link

“do you have any like favorite arenas”

thanasis hits hard on the court, not so hard as an interviewer apparently

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

thats the type of perspective you only get from a player

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:57 (three months ago) link

You would think Thanasis couldn't be worse at podcasting than basketball, but you would be wrong.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 1 March 2024 18:54 (three months ago) link

i had to block the name "gilbert arenas" on twitter, felt like he was being forced on me every 5th post and hes reached that perk level of nba talking head dumb ass


UMS follow my lead on this it has improved my life by at least 2%

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:19 (three months ago) link

yeah I need to, muting Kanye and Yeezy helped a lot

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 March 2024 21:33 (three months ago) link

nba media discourse is cooked. 2/3 of the way through his first season and theyre already trying to push him to a bigger market lol

ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne: “Victor is here and he wants to win... I don’t know how patient he’s going to be (with the #Spurs)… I don’t think he wants to sit here at the bottom of the lottery standings.” #PorVida #Wemby #Wembanyama #NBA pic.twitter.com/CXKXjFJAaL

— Dusty Garza (@Dgarza888) March 5, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

lmao at suggesting the Spurs should have made huge move to get Dame, be serious

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link

lol come on

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link

oh my god. ramona. no. NO!!!!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:48 (three months ago) link

does anyone honestly believe wemby won’t be patient with the spurs? lol. even putting aside just the baseline absurdity of the topic being applied to a rookie, that dude is spur up and down. come on now.

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:49 (three months ago) link

lmao at suggesting the Spurs should have made huge move to get Dame, be serious

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, March 5, 2024 12:06 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if he's serious about winning he should come to the team that has Dame already

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:52 (three months ago) link

I don’t think he wants to sit here at the bottom of the lottery standings.

keen piercing insight here. but that's the only one of the bunch. the rest is a crock.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:57 (three months ago) link

an NBA media thing i’ve been clocking a lot lately are ESPN guys specifically lowe & windhorst making remarks on their podcasts about how when they go on TV they’re forced to talk about the lakers and warriors, so instead on today’s episode we are going to talk about xyz. as someone who doesn’t watch ESPN talking head shows this suits me well i just find this de facto hostage position these guys take to be a bit absurd. like, im sorry that you are ambitious and ambition at ESPN means being turned into a puppet who talks about 3 topics but… not really my problem!! exercise some agency, boys

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link

yeah or like just... make the podcast longer or record another one to talk about what you want to talk about?

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link

I don't think these guys are the ultimate arbiters of the content they produce

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

yup. the producers have a plan going in to a broadcast and the 'talent' is expected to follow it. worth noting that espn is disney and disney doesn't hesitate to fire people who don't toe the line.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:31 (three months ago) link

I don't think these guys are the ultimate arbiters of the content they produce

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, March 5, 2024 12:21 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

feels like more of a recent push tho.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link

it's hard to pick but i think my least favorite talking head discussion is "who's on your Mount Rushmore of [insert here]"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:50 (three months ago) link

lol yeah i don’t need “the concept of television”explained to me, but thanks guys. i understand the role of the producer. that is not my point

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:53 (three months ago) link

an NBA media thing i’ve been clocking a lot lately are ESPN guys specifically lowe & windhorst making remarks on their podcasts about how when they go on TV they’re forced to talk about the lakers and warriors, so instead on today’s episode we are going to talk about xyz. as someone who doesn’t watch ESPN talking head shows this suits me well i just find this de facto hostage position these guys take to be a bit absurd. like, im sorry that you are ambitious and ambition at ESPN means being turned into a puppet who talks about 3 topics but… not really my problem!! exercise some agency, boys

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, March 5, 2024 2:00 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

another version of this--lowe frequently alludes to the stupid shit kendrick perkins decides to say on tv because he has to engage with it in good faith over there, even though most 9 year olds would have more intelligent things to say than perk

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:57 (three months ago) link

he needs to step it up should adopt a nerd stephen a persona and tell perk what he really thinks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 20:04 (three months ago) link

feels like more of a recent push tho.

Oh hey, here's the post I was actually responding to. It must have been buried by being directly prior to my post.

FWIW I noticed this tic a lot the previous year, but I agree that it's ramping up.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 20:21 (three months ago) link

he needs to step it up should adopt a nerd stephen a persona and tell perk what he really thinks

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:04 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is basically JJ’s steez now

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 20:50 (three months ago) link

ha that is true, he needs to dial up the showmanship tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 20:55 (three months ago) link

here i’ll type out something more that maybe will elicit a response beyond “so do you know that other people work on the television show too? and that it’s aired on ESPN, which is owned by disney???”

so i think one of the main differences nowadays is that the original class of sports shouters — skip & stephen a etc or on the less extreme end guys like wilbon & kornheiser — didn’t routinely express frustration about the practice of going on TV to talk about sports. i’m sure stephen a or skip has sat on air and yelled “why are we talking about this instead of that!” but it’s not in the context of guys like windhorst and lowe who are telling one audience — their favored audience — “this is REALLY what i wanna talk about, but my bosses make me go over there multiple times per week to talk to this other audience about this other stuff that bores me.” if the wilbons of the world were that conflicted about the gig, the checks kept them quiet. but now ESPN has stratified content streams that, for lack of better terms, serve you either dumb stuff or smart stuff. and there’s a big enough consumer class for the smart stuff that the famous journalists within that niche at ESPN are now being asked by their bosses to participate in the dumb content too, and of course those people are going to say yes for reasons of money, fame, easier work etc — same as those older guys. it just falls on deaf ears for me for them to participate in this dynamic, and be enriched by it, but then also complain about how much they have to talk with kendrick perkins about the lakers. i think lowe & windhorst could have long, healthy, lucrative careers at ESPN or not at ESPN without accelerating into afternoon talking head land, but that would require, at the very least, turning money down and the shedding of some level of ambition. but if you’re taking the check to do lucrative but lousy work and it’s affecting how much you can enjoy the rest of your job that’s something you should be working out w/ your therapist & not your basketball podcast listening audience, imo

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:07 (three months ago) link

good description of the situation. but personally speaking it doesn't impede my enjoyment of the pods, and there is some unintentional comedy associated with someone as hapless and dorky as zach lowe, at least, trying not to denigrate the opinions of guys like perk. now if espn starts pushing him to have guys like that on the pod as his guests, that would be a different story. honestly i already feel that way a bit about bobby marks, though i have no idea if zach just likes having him on so much. i also put windy in a different category, i don't find him to be a particularly incisive basketball mind. he could probably cash in his rep and audience and do like the marc stein thing and start a substack and do fine, but the "dumb" side of the biz is more his natural habitat. otoh, hearing him moderate mcmahon and bontemps, and those 3 very different people try to coexist on the hoop collective, is probably the most entertaining thing going in this whole scene right now, non-hoops analysis division

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:26 (three months ago) link

i should clarify - i know that bobby marks is doing something very different from perk, and i *guess* he has some expertise and insider knowledge to go on. but it is rare that i feel like he has anything to add to what zach would be telling me on his own. he almost never voices a dissenting opinion

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:28 (three months ago) link

windy knows the league but he doesnt really know ball

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:31 (three months ago) link

jordan otm re complaining about going on tv being a ridiculous thing, no ones making you go on tv

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link

btw why is scal lowes goto celtics guy i dont even hate scal like many do but we get enough of him talking get some writer on there like for every other team

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:35 (three months ago) link

hes looking a lil queasy today

https://i.imgur.com/iDt2r0I.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:38 (three months ago) link

windy knows the league but he doesnt really know ball

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:31 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's a newspaper beat writer at heart, which is one reason i like him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:42 (three months ago) link

the amount of times now that zach lowe makes a point and then stops to note what kendrick perkins’ rock brained response to said point was or would be is harming my ability to enjoy his podcast by like 1-2%

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link

it’s cool bobby marks is around to be, like, the public’s GM when it comes to cap situations and what not. but as a podcast guest it’s def like turning on a baseball game and seeing the fifth starter out there

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link

scal is really good on this episode actually lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:55 (three months ago) link

he's a newspaper beat writer at heart, which is one reason i like him

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, March 5, 2024 4:42 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i like him too for the record and i like his focus on league stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link

the amount of times now that zach lowe makes a point and then stops to note what kendrick perkins’ rock brained response to said point was or would be is harming my ability to enjoy his podcast by like 1-2%

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, March 5, 2024 2:43 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol otm

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link

its a funny tic he just has to get it out he still cant say perks opinions are dumb but he knows people will understand

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 22:02 (three months ago) link

lakers talk is out of hand lmao

After Shannon Sharpe predicted the Lakers would sweep the Thunder, JJ Redick wants to know why he's so obsessed with how long the series would go.

JJ: "Does it matter how many games it goes?"

Stephen A. Smith: "It does."

JJ: "Why?"

SAS: "It's not good to get swept."

JJ: "OK,… pic.twitter.com/kK9iXE5E7h

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) March 5, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 22:04 (three months ago) link

jordan very otm and it is a good life lesson in general!!

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 22:05 (three months ago) link

constant lakers coverage is tedious but it is funny how it gaslights their fans into thinking theyre better than they are and they get really mad when they lose

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 22:06 (three months ago) link

i do think there is a distinction between lowe suffering brain damage from trying to sincerely engage with perk or even a lightweight like chiney ogwunike, and windhorst sideyeing lakers fixation. the latter is just being a good midwesterner.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 23:49 (three months ago) link

since the mavs started losing this is what nba media is doing now, good luck fellas

https://i.imgur.com/SUhZGjH.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:26 (three months ago) link

amazing that perk is such a prominent broadcaster, considering it's been apparent since his playing days that he's one of the dumbest people who ever came through the league

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:32 (three months ago) link

tbf being a dumb guy is an extremely common and popular mode for sports talkers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link

I listened to sports talk radio for the vast majority of the last 20 years of driving, but recently cut almost all of it out and its been such a relief not being bombarded by such stupidity all the time. I can't believe I did this to myself all these years.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:22 (three months ago) link

the "WE DONE WITH THE 90s" thing on social media is pretty interesting, kids are going back and actually watching the games

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 10 March 2024 16:40 (three months ago) link

the tv guys who played then should try it

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 March 2024 16:57 (three months ago) link

watching 90s games is brutal tbh

micah, Sunday, 10 March 2024 22:20 (three months ago) link

always loved that clip and that simmons has no idea whats going on

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:10 (three months ago) link

he wants to be part of the fun tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:11 (three months ago) link

don’t we all

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:56 (three months ago) link

finally dawned on zach lowe that kd despite crazy regular season numbers isnt the player he once was, he even referenced that celtics-nets series, which was two years ago for the record

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:05 (three months ago) link

yeah i heard that from lowe too. kd's stats are still efficient, but by the eye test it's pretty clear he's lost a step. He's also playing the 5th most minutes per game in the league, one of many hard-to-defend suns decisions from the past year

intheblanks, Monday, 18 March 2024 03:46 (three months ago) link

“a pure conversation about basketball” lol

call all destroyer, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link

for the pure heads

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:15 (three months ago) link

“This is like two wine masters, sommeliers, talking about wine, not necessarily you or me arguing if I like Burgundy or Bordeaux better,” said Carter, the co-founder and CEO of Uninterrupted.

...

In one clip from the forthcoming podcast, viewed by The Athletic, the setting is very casual, with the hosts drinking red wine and talking in great detail about how to guard a pick play.

lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:21 (three months ago) link

its a wine podcast

lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:21 (three months ago) link

Love pods of rich folks talking about wine. Thrilling.

Jeff, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:25 (three months ago) link

Lamar Odom and Caitlyn Jenner are starting a Sports podcast together, per @TMZ_Sports

(h/t @Sportico ) pic.twitter.com/t21XrSAZr4

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) March 18, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:26 (three months ago) link

jesus lol

lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:27 (three months ago) link

just what we need

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

two more wine masters, sommeliers if you will

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:45 (three months ago) link

we need to put a pause to podcasts until we figure out what’s going on

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:27 (three months ago) link

theres a celtics podcast where two of the three hosts are australian

lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2024 18:44 (three months ago) link

why does zach lowe love the mavs so much

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 21:25 (three months ago) link

had to turn off the ep him and the guest were talking so wild

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 21:31 (three months ago) link

the mavs can beat anyone, if zion can guard kawhi then...

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link

mo dakhil is useless, i have no idea what he says that is supposed to be interesting

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:49 (three months ago) link

yeah not great stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:56 (three months ago) link

more like less dakhil

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:09 (three months ago) link

ayy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:10 (three months ago) link

bontemps: wolves could give nugs trouble in the playoffs, kings could give wolves trouble

pick one man

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:27 (three months ago) link

as I’ve said before, the wolves are the one team I’d love to be on the other side of the bracket from. they match up really well with denver with their size and great wing defense; murray’s struggled in particular vs this version of the team. I do think ultimately denver will be favored and will have the talent/coaching/best player advantage, but I’ve got a healthy respect for the wolves for sure. the win yesterday wasn’t pretty but if it helps for tiebreaker/home court purposes I’ll take it every time

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:46 (three months ago) link

i dont respect the wolves no offense and the kat situation basically makes it impossible for them to win a playoff series v the nugs anyway

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:55 (three months ago) link

okc is the team thats a threat to denver theyve played them well nugs will have a hard time defending shai and theyre just good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:56 (three months ago) link

if you really wanted to game it paranoid style you would want to be on the same side of the draw as the wolves to take advantage of the kat return timetable

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:58 (three months ago) link

classic moment on the pod today w/ windhorst claiming that the nuggets-wolves game effectively ended w/ a few mins left and bontemps and mcmahon pointing out that the game actually went down to the final shot which forced windhorst to sheepishly admit that he turned the game off w/ 15 seconds left and actually had no idea that things went haywire and ant got a game tying buzzer beater attempt off

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:59 (three months ago) link

i just don't think a team w/ OKC's frontline can be legitimately competitive in a series vs jokic where they're gonna have to contend w/ 40 mins a night each from jokic and gordon

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:01 (three months ago) link

obvs joker is a huge advantage gordon is whatever, but joker is unstoppable anyway, they have the personnel to slow down the rest of the nugs, and they can score a lot too if thats what it takes, and they can make joker work on d

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:05 (three months ago) link

yeah gonna have to disagree w/ you there on gordon. the nuggets use him very effectively against smaller players in the playoffs. they murdered the heat specifically w/ him. jalen williams gives up three inches and 40+ pounds to gordon, dort is 4 inches shorter and 15-20 pounds lighter. it's not an incidental advantage for denver.

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:08 (three months ago) link

and the other guy has to guard MPJ giving up half a foot in height. size is a major reason why denver is hard to beat and OKC is a pretty small team

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:10 (three months ago) link

gordon is effective because he plays with jokic full stop, jokic is the issue

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:10 (three months ago) link

i mean were talking about a guy who cant shoot on a normal team he would be very easy to deal with

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:11 (three months ago) link

thats why i think okc and a lot of teams will prob play joker straight up let him get his while mixing in some other coverage and then prob going to more doubles late in the game its kinda the best you can do

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:13 (three months ago) link

ok i'm not trying to have a discussion about the true value of aaron gordon as a player. what i am saying is that if you are a team trying to pass 6' 5" guys off as power forwards while playing switchy defense against this nuggets team, they are going to put gordon in the post and bludgeon you to death. this is not a theory of mine they have demonstrated the ability to do this in high level playoff games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtQWt_6F4xI

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:15 (three months ago) link

if aaron gordon, a guy who gets most of his point waiting around in the dunker spot for joker double teams, beats you with post ups so be it, it wouldnt be on the list of things im worried about if im playing the nugs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link

i mean he had a good series vs the heat but that not really his typical level

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:20 (three months ago) link

i would be totally happy to have gordon posting up jdub thats a win for okc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:22 (three months ago) link

i guess we'll see. i personally would dislike having a 4 inch, 40 pound and 6 year age mismatch in that match up. i think if you're looking at a series where denver has a major size advantage and are like "eh that doesn't really matter" you are going to be in for some cold water to the face

gordon also scored 39 points on 14-21 shooting in games 1 of 2 of the phoenix series. he had 22-6 in the close out game vs the lakers and 27-7 in game 4 vs the heat which effectively ended that series. he was the role player guy who flipped a bunch of games for them in the playoffs last year as much as murray was that guy

i think teams that can't contend w/ him in the post on both sides of the floor, on the glass etc are at a major disadvantage against denver in the playoffs

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:37 (three months ago) link

also in terms of OKC playing denver well, there was one game between them this year where denver had their starting 5 and they won by 33

if you dig into some of these other games it's like

OKC wins by 1 point in a game where they are fully healthy but for denver justin holiday starts and plays 25 mins, peyton watson plays 16 mins, reggie jackson plays 22 mins

OKC wins by 26 in a game where they are fully healthy and payton watson starts and plays 32 mins

OKC wins by 5 in a game where jalen williams and jokic are both out, 21 mins from watson, 30 from reggie jackson etc

these are not playoff situations

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:46 (three months ago) link

im not saying the size advantage doesnt matter or that okc has a good chance of beat the nugs im saying particularly considering the injury to kat okc is clearly the west team thats the biggest threat to them just because theyre the best team which matters at least as much as matchup stuff, fwiw gordon having a bunch of big playoff games is the kind of thing you tend to see with champ runs, whether its likely to happen again prob not tho obvs its not impossible

also worth considering if okc has matchup advantages against the nugs, which i think they do, its weird how last years suns series has been totally memory holed, bontemps just said that the wolves played the nugs the toughest in last years playoffs which is just not true the suns did, almost entirely on the strength of devin booker wrecking the nugs d, the nugs defense is good because its sound they play great team d, its not good because they have an athletic advantage, they are vulnerable to being broken down by great perimeter scorers largely because they dont have great rim protection, booker isnt even that good at getting to the rim but he was living there in the suns series, *hubie voice* now does okc have a great perimeter scorer who can get to the rim they do, were okc to beat the nugs i think itd be because shai has a huge series, there are other things too like okc has has a ton of shooting and ballhandling so they can make the nugs work on d stretch them out try to press their athletic advantage

so the nugs arent the only team that has matchup advantages here, and if shai goes nuts we could be onto something, not the most likely outcome but its a real one IMHO

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:02 (three months ago) link

where whats the recipe for the wolves winning kat walks out of the operating room and drop 25 a night idk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link

if you really wanted to game it paranoid style you would want to be on the same side of the draw as the wolves to take advantage of the kat return timetable

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 20, 2024 11:58 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a fair point actually!

I have a respect for the thunder insofar as they’re really good and they have a puncher’s chance for sure…but I just think the wolves (at full strength) match up better vs denver. regular season head to head doesn’t mean much imo, saw some tweet the other day that in the past 4 years the nuggets playoff series results were almost all opposite the reg season head to head results.

as things stand now with the thunder having home court obv that swings things in their favor a bit of course

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link

i could get on board with full strength wolves being the biggest threat tho im still tempted to take okc, but it doesnt matter since the wolves arent full strength, kat just isnt going to come back from surgery in the middle of the offs and be his 100% self, hes never actually been good in the playoff anyway

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:17 (three months ago) link

okc is +7.6 this year thats in the championship range theyre a very good team, people are discounting them because theyre so young which is totally fair, but also weve never seen a team this young be this good before, young teams dont only struggle in the playoffs they also struggle in the regular season, okc is very much not struggling, theyre also one of the best coached teams which isnt nothing

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:17 (three months ago) link

i mean, the suns won two games, at home, by margins of 7 points and 5 points. they lost the 4 other games by 25, 16, 10, and 18. so i think the competitiveness of that series is very much in the eye of the beholder. in my eye, it was not very

if you look at denver's point differential in each series it was

vs MIN: +44
vs PHX: +57
vs LA: +24
vs MIA: +41

by game average it would be

vs MIN: +8.8
vs PHX: +11.4
vs LA: +6.0
vs MIA: +8.2

and that minnesota series was a 29 point blowout in game 1 followed by 4 competitive games

this idea that denver can be exploited by perimeter ball handlers and stuff, i mean... any theory on how to beat them is prob as good or bad as any other. but i really don't think the phoenix series supports this idea that there is some achilles heel for shai to exploit

i mean... game 4 a 7 point win by phoenix, booker and durant combine for 86 points on 25-37 shooting. i don't doubt shai could have a nuclear game and pick off a win or even two... denver will almost certainly lose more playoff games this year. but this is not a blueprint for beating them

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link

it is a blueprint for beating them actually

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:24 (three months ago) link

worth considering too that the suns were not a good team

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:25 (three months ago) link

i've heard bill simmons say all year that phoenix is the biggest threat to denver in the west because nobody can stop denver anyway so you might as well just try and outscore them

i don't think the data from last year's playoffs support that conclusion. i think you actually have a better chance if you can get denver in the muck a bit and play them close in every game, rather than the phoenix model of getting blown to smithereens in every loss bcuz you're giving up 120 ppg every single time out

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

it is a blueprint for beating them actually

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:24 PM (three minutes ago)

who would you say is the kevin durant of this OKC team

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link

its weird how last years suns series has been totally memory holed, bontemps just said that the wolves played the nugs the toughest in last years playoffs which is just not true the suns did, almost entirely on the strength of devin booker wrecking the nugs d, the nugs defense is good because its sound they play great team d, its not good because they have an athletic advantage, they are vulnerable to being broken down by great perimeter scorers largely because they dont have great rim protection, booker isnt even that good at getting to the rim but he was living there in the suns series,

I feel like I made this point last time we had this discussion but this is just not what happened. the suns won those games because KD and especially book both went on insane, completely unsustainable runs on jump shots. here is a screenshot of booker’s game log. they won those two games, on their home court, by a combined 12 points, and lost the other 4 by an average of 17.3. it was their most competitive series by games lost, but what I’m point out above is the reason most nuggets fans don’t consider it to have been their toughest series

https://imgur.com/a/hBBnGen

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:31 (three months ago) link

i posted bookers shot chart for that series he was living at the rim

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:33 (three months ago) link

he did great at the rim when he got there but he was just visiting not really living there

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:37 (three months ago) link

every version of the suns playoff chances discussion is the same, yeah of course they can beat anyone if their guys get and stay hot, but they have no plan b and their plan a is exceptionally hard to pull off in 4 out of 7 games

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:38 (three months ago) link

even just beyond the typical normal unsustainability of some of the shooting in that series, i don't think from a stamina POV you can ask two guys to carry that kinda load against a team like denver that is a true 5 man unit

the good news for OKC is that they are much more a real line up than last year's phoenix team, but they also don't have a second scorer anywhere near as good as that phoenix team

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:39 (three months ago) link

he did great at the rim when he got there but he was just visiting not really living there

― brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:37 PM (five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

his rim attempts were way up he doesnt get there much but he was vs denvers d, also this wasnt a booker and kd situation kd had a bad series he shot 45/22/88 his two good games were more or less standard regular season games for him he did not have any games where he went nuts, this was the devin booker show, and denver couldnt do anything with him even tho the suns werent a good team, now what if you had a player like booker except for better particularly in the ways that booker gave the nugs problems and he was on a very good team might that be a little bit of a worry something to consider matchup wise

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:46 (three months ago) link

the other thing w/ giving the thunder a match up "advantage" in that series w/ shai is that murray in the playoffs becomes a guy at that level too

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:49 (three months ago) link

the ball handling and shooting and stuff that OKC has is nice the problem w/ denver is that they have the best ballhandler in the league dictating every possession and better shooting too

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:51 (three months ago) link

im a murray fan, i dont think its just some random thing that hes been great in the playoffs his combo of shooting off the dribble and attacking ability is really the mix you want from a guard, however i dont think hes guaranteed to outperform his regular season production by as much as weve seen in the past, its not really a normal thing, even if it maybe makes more sense with him because of his particular game and fit with jokic

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:53 (three months ago) link

denver doesnt have better shooting than okc fwiw okc is clearly better

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:54 (three months ago) link

neither of them take many threes which is kind of interesting, with denver it makes sense because they have joker flipping in five footers all day and they have some non shooters in the mix, but okc has the best 3pt% in the league while only taking the 18th most, thats leaving money on the table

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:59 (three months ago) link

celtics are 2 in 3pt% while taking the most btw 😎

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:04 (three months ago) link

you gotta boil a lot this stuff down at the end of the day and i'll take murray, KCP and MPJ over OKC's three best off ball shooters, whoever they are

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:08 (three months ago) link

you gotta trim so much of the fat off denver's rotation and statistical ledger when projecting them for the playoffs, it's all guys who are not very good, drag their stats down etc

meanwhile in OKC's case guys bench guys like isiah joe and cason wallace who help prop their statistical profile up from a shooting perspective are gonna have their mins decreased in the playoffs. i'd imagine you'd see little of those guys in a denver series especially as it went on

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:11 (three months ago) link

bet you see wallace and joe more actually just cause giddy wont be playable lol tho those minutes could go to hayward if hes up to speed, he can shoot too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:18 (three months ago) link

you gotta boil a lot this stuff down at the end of the day and i'll take murray, KCP and MPJ over OKC's three best off ball shooters, whoever they are

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 20, 2024 2:08 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

mjp and murray are legit shooters kcp isnt anything special in that regard, but doesnt really matter since the game isnt played three on three, you could make an argument that having more shooters is better than having a couple high end ones, tho i think that changes when you talk about guys who can hit threes off the dribble like murray which is just insanely valuable, and movement shooters like mpj are also very good way better than yr stand still catch and shoot guys, btw know who has the highest off the dribble 3pt% in the league this year, its jdub

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:18 (three months ago) link

jdub is checking all the boxes for a superstar projection but no one wants to think about it because its too sick

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:22 (three months ago) link

KCP is pretty certified to me at this point

if you line up both of these teams i feel like you have:

best players and no 1 ball handlers on both sides who are not frequent or great 3 pt shooters, tho have capability from there

one non shooter on both end, tho gordon did shoot 39% from 3 in last year's playoffs and we'll see how long giddey is in the starting line up

that leaves you w/ j dub, chet and dort vs murray, MPJ, and KCP as the guys most likely to be leveraging their shooting in off ball scenarios. obv j dub and murray have the ball a lot too but they're largely still orbiting the no 1 guy on the team. so those are the core 3 on each end for me and i'm taking denver's three guys

now you can switch out giddey for one of those other guys and then say that gordon sticks out like a sore thumb as a non shooter, but as i explained earlier i think making yourself smaller vs gordon presents an entirely new set of problems

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:27 (three months ago) link

kcp is a guy who takes the easiest threes and hits them at a good rate, its not nothing and when combined with his elite d and general ability to play basketball hes a very good player a star role player even but hes just not a special shooter is all, hes a prob a lil above average for the type of player he is

widening the lens if giddy doesnt play then all the okc minutes go to shooters, which is pretty nice, i think is a pretty clear advantage for them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:35 (three months ago) link

and fwiw okc have been playing small all year, they know the downside of it, and have decided its still best for them, and theyre a very smart org, they didnt go out and get a big at the deadline even though they couldve had their pick, cant say i agree with it but the fact that a great org thinks this is the best way for them to play does give me pause, its not like they dont know joker is out there, tho on the other hand they might just be taking the long view here and will add some size later, but idk just get some dece backup to eat up some minutes the celtics got tillman for two seconds why not add a guy like that, they didnt seem to want to at all

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:39 (three months ago) link

instead they got hayward who is more a guy that fits in with how they play

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link

feel like they might be galaxy braining this but who knows

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:41 (three months ago) link

okcs top 11 by minutes played, wild stuff

https://i.imgur.com/iiUcRka.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link

*minutes per game

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:51 (three months ago) link

okc like to play with a blur of motion and shooters, this is not something jokic/mpj/gordon like to guard they are too big for that. and you know that okc will lean into that style even more if they face denver

micah, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link

last season gordon shot 34% on threes and 39% in the playoffs vs his career average of 32%. he is back down to 28% this season. i wouldnt count on him catching fire again

micah, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:52 (three months ago) link

yeah it’s an impending disaster imo

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:21 (three months ago) link

no good

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:33 (three months ago) link

NBA League Pass viewers will be able to opt-in to the platform’s betting view, which will feature point spreads, over-unders and moneyline odds.

maaaaaybe this means if you don't opt in, you'll be less barraged by gambling shit? not likely tho

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link

hate everything about this

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:29 (three months ago) link

they’re already doing this on the app i got asked last night if i wanted to watch the heat game on gambling mode

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:34 (three months ago) link

mares cant hang with legs

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:37 (three months ago) link

Crazy. pic.twitter.com/nmCUV70X5T

— Stefan Bondy (@SbondyNBA) March 21, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:02 (three months ago) link

jfc. props to jb for laying it out like that. was this in response to a question about the league pass announcement or about ohtani? too many gambling stories to keep track of

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:33 (three months ago) link

windy story about lebrons short teammate was good, some nice pre fame lebron details, lol his editor accusing him of wanting to cover lebron because he played for windys high school

lag∞n, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:30 (three months ago) link

yeah that was great, he told that story well

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

kind of made me want to check out one of windy’s lebron books. I didn’t even realize that his hs coach is the coach at Duquesne now

circles, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:52 (three months ago) link

the story was great as was the continuous barrage from mcmahon and bontemps about him going to the duquesne game lol

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 March 2024 18:15 (three months ago) link

Perk just diagnosed the Clippers with an acute shortage of swag which will be solved by Westbrook returning

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 March 2024 14:20 (three months ago) link

I can’t keep up with such technical analysis. Dumb it down for me Perk.

Jeff, Monday, 25 March 2024 14:26 (three months ago) link

youre always going to be at a swag deficit with kawhi as your best player which you have to offset by just hooping

lag∞n, Monday, 25 March 2024 14:34 (three months ago) link

SWAG

https://i.imgur.com/d4x2Mt1.png

lag∞n, Monday, 25 March 2024 14:38 (three months ago) link

grear moment on the hoop collective pod today when they’re talking about mark cuban being described on TNT as the “proprietor” of the mavs. macmahon does his joke about needing to look up the word in the dictionary but then in trying to genuinely understand what it means for mark cuban to be the “proprietor” they actually read the definition on air. turns out *i* didn’t exactly know what proprietor means!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:43 (two months ago) link

great** …

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:44 (two months ago) link

haha i did not know the technical definition of proprietor either, but now i know that mark cuban definitely is not meeting it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 15:47 (two months ago) link

jj lbj pod is good cos he seems to be the only person that can rib him into admitting the funny stuff

This is my favorite player podcast moment of all time pic.twitter.com/ZIG0qoAJbV

— Jason Gallagher (@jga41agher) April 4, 2024

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 4 April 2024 19:14 (two months ago) link

lol, reminds me of when a reporter asked tatum if he thinks much about when he dunked on lebron in the ecf his rookie season and he was like well yeah because i have a framed picture of it in my house

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 19:27 (two months ago) link

just came to post exactly what spottie did — it’s nice to see lebron loosen up a little, he almost seems human

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:22 (two months ago) link

Michael "Curious Mike" Porter Jr. doing the real journalism

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5Tue1aOlLn/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:01 (two months ago) link

doing the lords work

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:07 (two months ago) link

i wonder how much advance research he did

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:10 (two months ago) link

Is MPJ a weird energy guy

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Sunday, 7 April 2024 03:19 (two months ago) link

his off the court stuff…not really sure what to make of it tbh. comes from an extremely fucked up family, the kind that are jesus freaks but also into pyramid schemes…might be the most normal one in the family tho tbh. I try not to pay attention to it too much

brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 April 2024 03:45 (two months ago) link

I’ve seen some questionable quotes from him but didn’t know about his fam. I need to do a deep dive

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Sunday, 7 April 2024 05:26 (two months ago) link

crying @ someone at ESPN pressing a big red button and making windhorst do a full hour long lakers and warriors playoff preview

also crying for myself, the listener

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:36 (two months ago) link

Was this like a Clockwork Orange type deal?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:37 (two months ago) link

windy’s eclipse rant the other day was excellent lol

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:44 (two months ago) link

"now, why would the sun do that?"

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:51 (two months ago) link

that was great rant but he still he should show the eclipse more respect

lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 16:35 (two months ago) link

yes the eclipse rant was great and also otm. know multiple people who are “driving up to maine” today lol cmon be serious you can see it on a livestream

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 8 April 2024 16:40 (two months ago) link

it’s going to be like 92% coverage here, even if you’re super motivated to see it do you really need to drive 3 hours on a monday to get to the 100% part?

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 April 2024 16:45 (two months ago) link

yes you do the zone of totality is 1000% cooler than the rest of the eclipse i drove up to wymoning from colorado for the last one and it was totally worth it, tho i did have a nice place to stay so it was nice anyway, today im already in the zone

lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link

reporting back is was so sick one of the most unusual and impressive natural phenomenon ive ever seen, recommend checking it out next time

lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:14 (two months ago) link

love to be “in the zone”

Clay, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:18 (two months ago) link

thats what its all about baby

lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:20 (two months ago) link

"In The Zone" with Trent Tucker is our Saturday morning NBA show on our local sports talk

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 April 2024 21:10 (two months ago) link

ive seen him rise to the occasion occasionally --windy on reggie jackson

lag∞n, Monday, 15 April 2024 17:54 (two months ago) link

I am not his biggest fan but he’s going to have to eat 8-10 mins a game at minimum I’d think

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:39 (two months ago) link

Curious commentary from Reggie Miller wondering if the Lakers should miss a free throw instead of making both to go up four with 2.7 seconds left. pic.twitter.com/1DA6sZrDpK

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) April 17, 2024

*hmmm emoji*

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:12 (two months ago) link

a unique mind

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:15 (two months ago) link

“i’ve seen him rise to the occasion occasionally” was so classic

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:42 (two months ago) link

I like the Reggie/Harlan combo. Reggie is a funny man.

Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:45 (two months ago) link

seek help

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:35 (two months ago) link

its kinda funny to think back on those great reggie battles with the knicks and bulls with the knowledge that reggie is such an absolute goober. he was always a fun player to hate/root against but with hindsight have to think that for guys like ewing and starks and mj, the rivalries were less "fun" and more like "this mf guy"

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:53 (two months ago) link

ha true being fucked with by a guy whos lame and sucks is so insulting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:08 (two months ago) link

actually you know what he doesnt suck hes fine hes just super lame

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:12 (two months ago) link

and he cant pronounce any players names even when theyre jones

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:13 (two months ago) link

xp i think that’s right. and back in the 90s we didn’t have the tools to always know who was lame so those reggie trolling videos took on a different tone.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:14 (two months ago) link

honestly i don’t hate reggie like he doesn’t grate on me the way mark jackson or richard jefferson do/did. he’s just kinda dumb. or more than kinda. the clock thing last night being a great example

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:14 (two months ago) link

his biggest offenses as an announcer imho

1 can barely talk, consistently mispronounces very common words forget about at all unusual player names theres no hope, and just has a weird way of talking in general he has a flat affect like theres something amiss in his brain

2 is always way behind the action, theyll be some big play then the other team has the ball across halfcourt and hes like wow zion is really putting the team on his back, hes just never has his head in the game no sense of timing doesnt bring any emotional intensity, just very disconnected from the general goings on

3 is consistently wrong even about what hes currently seeing in a replay, but also about the rules of the game, strategy, whats normal in basketball, player evaluations etc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:28 (two months ago) link

comparing him and jefferson is interesting cause jefferson is so unlikable but otherwise understands the job does it pretty well, where reggie has no personality and is deeply incompetent

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:33 (two months ago) link

“i’ve seen him rise to the occasion occasionally” was so classic

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 11:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

its a great pod obvs and i know they have this adversarial schtick but i wish sometimes they would give each other a lil credit windy tells great stories has cool lines like that and theyre just on his ass immediately after, even just let it breathe a bit bontemps particularly is always stepping on everyones punchlines

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:41 (two months ago) link

At one point he said Zion was 6’3”

Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:53 (two months ago) link

At one point he said Zion was 6’3”

Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:53 (two months ago) link

Twice

Jeff, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:53 (two months ago) link

ha yeah he does shit like that all game he has no idea whats going on ever

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:55 (two months ago) link

lol what

Wow shots fired at @KendrickPerkins from @NBAonTNT panel 👀 pic.twitter.com/0lpDkiUXus

— Bri Marie D (@BriMarieD) April 24, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:32 (two months ago) link

love that lol

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:44 (two months ago) link

whats the backstory there

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:45 (two months ago) link

Chuck's outfit there is rough

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:46 (two months ago) link

lmao at lagoon's list of Reggie offenses ... "can't talk" "bad timing" and "always wrong" ... not great if your job is to talk about live basketball on TV!

alpine static, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:41 (two months ago) link

im sayin

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link

also incredibly unfunny

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:53 (two months ago) link

the total package

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 20:20 (two months ago) link

And one of the most grating voices

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 25 April 2024 04:21 (two months ago) link

https://theathletic.com/5432961/2024/04/23/lebron-james-goat-michael-jordan-nba-player-poll/

lol at Pierce pulling the same percentage of GOAT votes as Magic.

Costas Mandylorian (Leee), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link

wtf!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:59 (two months ago) link

i.e., one inexplicable vote. Pierce floated the idea that it was LeBron who voted for him, which is lmao.

There's definitely some interesting data in that poll, I've been meaning to bring it to ilh. Thing that jumped out to me the most is how insanely Giannis' stock has plummeted. One measly vote for best defender, distant 5th (behind Tatum) for MVP, and a massive fall from being the runaway 52% winner last year of "who would you start a roster with" to just a single vote for that as well. Other things, the players seem to love Adam Silver, they still hate Rudy Gobert, and Thibs' reputation as grueling precedes him so strongly that it's gotta influence signing players.

Link to the full survey is here: https://theathletic.com/5433545/2024/04/22/nba-player-poll-2024-lebron-jordan-goat-celtics-nuggets-rudy-gobert-timberwolves/. Lmk if someone wants full text in that other thread though it will miss the very helpful graphs

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 26 April 2024 12:14 (two months ago) link

full text would be nice thanks

micah, Friday, 26 April 2024 12:54 (two months ago) link

Only reading it now, some nice gems, like guys being afraid to fight James Johnson, and nobody wanting to play for Thibs by a longshot.

Costas Mandylorian (Leee), Friday, 26 April 2024 19:48 (two months ago) link

just remembered was half asleep in front of the game last night when i heard chuck and the gang rapping a public enemy song, i was like i should wake up and figure out whats going on but i did not

lag∞n, Friday, 26 April 2024 20:22 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9g0Hl1KD9c

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 14:04 (one month ago) link

i appreciate TNT for looking for solutions to the problem of putting reggie miller on TV but i’m not sure adding jamal crawford to the mix is the answer

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 14:55 (one month ago) link

its not good, theyre actually very similar

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 14:59 (one month ago) link

it’s wild bcuz i think SVG is easily the best in game analyst now on either network now, he’s as good as his brother at quickly calling out strategy stuff but w/ fewer of the antics. but then their main broadcast team goes entirely in the other direction in having zero ppl who can explain what is happening on screen

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

celtics fans were very mad at stan that last series idk what he got up to i watched the local broadcast

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:11 (one month ago) link

they should have the local guys do all the playoffs idk why its just the first round, mb its cause some people dont get nbatv

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link

iirc the celtics were killing the heat but he was unimpressed by the celtics defense and thought the heat were missing easy shots

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:22 (one month ago) link

which may well have been partially true but isn’t that fun to refer to multiple times on a broadcast when the celtics are up by 25 or whatever.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:22 (one month ago) link

yeah thats silly

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:24 (one month ago) link

Yah he’s mostly ok but can get fixated on stuff like that and it borders on him seeming like he’s choosing a side

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:25 (one month ago) link

he was the coach of the heat for a while iirc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 15:26 (one month ago) link

imo stan's bias crossed a line throughout that series, nitpicking whatever the c's were doing run and praising the heat for hanging in when they were down 20 yes. hate to say but it soured me on him and while he is definitely one of the best in-game analysts in the national rotation in terms of the level of insight but i find him pretty joyless. hard to say why but his brother's misanthropy is endearing, and stan's is grating. makybe because jeff leans into and embraces it. i'm at the point that i would certainly take redick over him, and doris (though she also gets stuck on personal bugaboos). hope i never get to the level of preferring reggie tho lol

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 16:26 (one month ago) link

run=wrong

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 16:26 (one month ago) link

ok i think you guys need to take a breather lol i don't think svg has an anti-celtics bias

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 17:28 (one month ago) link

he doesn’t he was just being annoying

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 17:29 (one month ago) link

i'll accept that bias was the wrong word there but the particular narratives he got stuck on were a mismatch for what was happening on the court

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 18:56 (one month ago) link

i'm not all precious about this stuff and of all players jokic isn't going to give a shit but what is the point of shaq doing this on the broadcast? grow up

Shaquille O'Neal tells his "vice president of the Big Man Alliance" Nikola Jokic that he did not think The Joker should win his 3rd MVP this year pic.twitter.com/f5jAciL5Th

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) May 8, 2024

it was really disgraceful

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:16 (one month ago) link

shaw sucks so bad

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:26 (one month ago) link

shaq

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:26 (one month ago) link

single handedly ruined inside

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:27 (one month ago) link

cop, commercial whore, huge bore

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:29 (one month ago) link

seems like tnt is gonna lose the nba, inside the nba guys were joking about not having to worry about next year the other night https://theathletic.com/5478528/2024/05/08/nba-tnt-nbc-tv-deal-david-zaslav/

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:53 (one month ago) link

are you going to need prime to watch the games amazon gets if so im going to murder someone wld really fuck up the youtubetv/league pass solution

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:54 (one month ago) link

Yeah I can’t go back from LP on YTTV. The dvr is essential.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

i also love that Shaq thinks any other human being on planet Earth gives a fuck about his "Big Man Alliance"

The further you look into Shaquille O'Neil's biography, the more and more you stumble upon gem after gem of insane stories like this pic.twitter.com/V3L7s60NpX

— Microplastics Exploder (@DiabolicalSpuds) May 9, 2024

symsymsym, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:58 (one month ago) link

what the shit

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:59 (one month ago) link

hahaha I want to go to this fake online school but I want to do it in person

David Zaslav really devoted to destroying all that is good huh

symsymsym, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:00 (one month ago) link

yeah what a performance

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link

what is Shaq going to do with a Master's from the University of Phoenix

symsymsym, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link

I think about that segment where Shaq insisted you save money on gas if you fill it up when it gets to half instead of waiting for it to get to empty

cop shit prob xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:02 (one month ago) link

Yeah I can’t go back from LP on YTTV. The dvr is essential.

― Jeff, Thursday, May 9, 2024 10:57 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

amazon lets you dvr, however... the experience SUCKS. watchign thursday night nfl games was so annoying i eventually just stopped (granted, most the thursday games werent that great anyway) but its hard to just casual watch that way. and with YTTV you can watch other stuff or bounce around easily or watch in multiview once you catch up live. gonna really suck if they do a lot through them or apple+ or whatever

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:04 (one month ago) link

having a bunch of nba games including the conf finals every other year be not on normal tv seems like a pretty big shift what if you live in a place that has bad internet you just cant watch some of the playoffs

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:06 (one month ago) link

I know inside will always have its late period contraristans, but it seems like for all the good years they had the show has run its course. time for a new era

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:36 (one month ago) link

sorry but what is wrong with this clip? that shaq told jokic he thought someone else was mvp? why is that offensive? joker himself doesn’t even care

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:39 (one month ago) link

if you’re pining for a new era should go check out some kendrick perkins and wilbon chatting it up on espn bcuz that’s gonna be your new era. enjoy

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:43 (one month ago) link

if you accept the premise that shaq’s unique blend of buffoonery, incuriosity, and self-centeredness is an indispensable part of basketball media, I can see wanting to give him a pass. but even by his own dreadful standards that was a mumbling and incoherent rant and a gratuitous show of disrespect

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:45 (one month ago) link

LOL

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:47 (one month ago) link

ok let's all take a deep breath here for a second

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:47 (one month ago) link

I’m not offended, seriously! just embarrassed that this once-great show is still somehow the standard even in its decrepit state. I agree the current alternatives are worse, but is this version of inside really worth preserving? why?

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:51 (one month ago) link

i survey the landscape of basketball programming on TV from espn to nba tv to tnt on nights when they rotate in other ex-players and i just laugh at the idea that you guys want the people in charge of these networks to create a new tv show for us all to watch. TNT's big new idea this playoffs was putting jamal crawford w/ reggie miller in the booth. watch anything ESPN puts on tv. who is saving us?

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

I understand that complaining about late inside has just been pissing into the wind for like a decade now. but we’re talking about a moment where there’s an actual chance things get shaken up. the show is obviously not getting better, and will just continue to get worse. now seems like a good time to appreciate the good times and move on

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:55 (one month ago) link

is this version of inside really worth preserving? why?

― brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:51 PM (two minutes ago)

bcuz it's roughly 500000x more entertaining than anything else basketball related on TV aside from the games and if shaq is annoying sometimes it's ok i just change the channel and come back in a few minutes

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:56 (one month ago) link

sorry but what is wrong with this clip? that shaq told jokic he thought someone else was mvp? why is that offensive? joker himself doesn’t even care

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:39 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah he said thats your opinion the classic sign of not caring

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link

for the record here’s a great hack I learned: you don’t actually have to listen to the studio shows. good chance to use the bathroom, make some food, post on ilx etc

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:58 (one month ago) link

but we’re talking about a moment where there’s an actual chance things get shaken up.

ok obama. feel free to live in the fantasy world where whatever comes after this show will be better i'll be here living in reality

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:59 (one month ago) link

for the record here’s a great hack I learned: you don’t actually have to listen to the studio shows. good chance to use the bathroom, make some food, post on ilx etc

― brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:58 PM (nineteen seconds ago)

if you wanna have a nihilism contest about who cares the least about this topic you can go ahead and take that ribbon dawg bcuz i actually do like having something fun to watch after a big basketball game

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:00 (one month ago) link

ok obama. feel free to live in the fantasy world where whatever comes after this show will be better i'll be here living in reality

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:59 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

funny I was about to make a hacky political comparison but…inside is biden :(

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:10 (one month ago) link

who I hope wins I guess

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:10 (one month ago) link

if you wanna have a nihilism contest about who cares the least about this topic you can go ahead and take that ribbon dawg bcuz i actually do like having something fun to watch after a big basketball game

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, May 9, 2024 3:00 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

me too! hopefully we can get something like this in the future

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:11 (one month ago) link

ftr I wasn't super upset about the Shaq thing I just thought it was dumb and oafish, which I guess it's to say it's Shaq

this segment makes it even more dumb, Shaq's of course root in all this is feeling like he should have won more MVPs in the 90s...Ernie is getting really upset and trying to hold it together which I always love lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHKSixfmZo

shaq has always been bad at his job but hes been noticeably weird this yeah he seems angry frustrated hes been making a bunch of odd sexual innuendoes on air, trying to make jokers mvp interview about himself, looking at the stat sheet of a game and saying i dont who this is but he had a good game

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:16 (one month ago) link

maybe hes just letting his freak flag fly knowing that the show is prob gonna be canceled

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:17 (one month ago) link

sometimes shaq gets chuck going in a good way, more often than not he is a bottleneck for conversation and a buffoon. show is not perfect, i still enjoy watching it, and i shudder at the thought of what amazon or nbc's attempts at studio programming will be

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:29 (one month ago) link

amazon should have an ai generated halftime show

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:31 (one month ago) link

i still watch inside its the best nba show but its a shadow of its former self

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:32 (one month ago) link

i think that's a fair assessment. most tv shows w/ this lifespan can only be really good for so long

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:58 (one month ago) link

the difference is that when a normal tv show falls off there's other good tv to watch instead. there is no other good post game basketball programming to watch

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 19:59 (one month ago) link

actually scott van pelt on sportscenter after games is pretty good usually. him and tim legler do good film breadown segments, it's def the kinda entertaining but smart programming that people want to see on tv. but you're only getting like 10-15 mins before he moves on to other sports etc

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 20:00 (one month ago) link

the van pelt sports center is good, im sure its not easy to make a good sports talk show but it is possible, as to whether the desire is there doesnt seem like it

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 20:02 (one month ago) link

SVP is my go to sports show now. i watch some inside still but its not must watch any more for me. the gap between those two and anything else on the national media landscape is massive. espn really should just be trying anything new just throw caution to the wind and see what works. i liked that tnt gave KG that weird segment a few years ago... even tho it didnt really work. but just more stuff in the spirit of that experiment.

we should be on year ~20 of payton and c webb but they just didnt want us to have nice things.

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 9 May 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link

lmao they were too good that was the problem

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 May 2024 20:17 (one month ago) link

I don't disagree with @BillSimmons' sentiment here — and I said as much on the No Dunks pod — but Shaq, Chuck, and Kenny NEVER attend any 'Inside the NBA' pre-show meetings. pic.twitter.com/pwQ46Ihkut

— J.E. Skeets (@jeskeets) May 10, 2024

it brings me no pleasure to note that bill simmons is otm

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 10 May 2024 23:01 (one month ago) link

yeah you can tell they dont go to the meetings by how they dont know who the players are

lag∞n, Friday, 10 May 2024 23:04 (one month ago) link

bill thinking shaqs running his bits by producers

lag∞n, Friday, 10 May 2024 23:05 (one month ago) link

that’s actually good though

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 10 May 2024 23:13 (one month ago) link

nba should just buy the rights to roundball rock and all the broadcasts could use it

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 May 2024 04:00 (one month ago) link

richard jefferson letting us know he has a son named phoenix

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 May 2024 01:03 (one month ago) link

gotta memorialize this kevin harlan greatness. standing up and barking toe to toe with murray has me on the floor

kevin harlan the god pic.twitter.com/QECaAsvK8b

— Brian Floyd (@BrianMFloyd) May 13, 2024



FML but this is tuff as hell with Jamal Murray & Kevin Harlan pic.twitter.com/EqVojCFGVB

— CJ Fogler account may or may not be notable (@cjzero) May 13, 2024

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 May 2024 01:27 (one month ago) link

lol that harlan can even come close to pulling that off is a testament to him

call all destroyer, Monday, 13 May 2024 01:38 (one month ago) link

This angle they showed before the second half started is the nuts. Look at Reggie and J-Crawford. pic.twitter.com/x8TRtjEhnf

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) May 13, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2024 01:40 (one month ago) link

commentator pet peeve theyre way too quick to say a guy is "down" "injured" its disturbing and the guy is usually not really down or injured last nights game ian eagle said chet was down holding his head and chet ran into view before he was finished

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 14:01 (one month ago) link

so how is the “hey let’s see what other ideas the TV execs have, imagine all the possibilities in a world without shaq & chuck” feeling about this scintillating vince carter/draymond combo

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 03:58 (one month ago) link

i appreciate draymonds commitment to his beef with gobert

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 04:00 (one month ago) link

lol, draymond will ride his rudy beef til the wheels come off

sknybrg, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 05:32 (one month ago) link

Dray had a good little rant about Halliburton post-game

alpine static, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 05:45 (one month ago) link

Boy he kept going back to Rudy. Just hammering him over and over.

alpine static, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 06:51 (one month ago) link

Yes he did haha

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 06:56 (one month ago) link

draymond repeatedly airing out his personal problems with gobert on national tv is embarrassing for him but i will watch it

“When you lose the belief… it’s over. They don’t believe they can win anymore, which means this series is over.”

Draymond sounds off on Gobert and the T-Wolves 👀 pic.twitter.com/c0U7LLOxKw

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) May 15, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:17 (one month ago) link

"im a truth teller" lmao

Draymond: "BBQ chicken is happening...I'm a truth teller and right now the truth is, Rudy Gobert don't stand a chance against Joker." pic.twitter.com/SJvNrfTm4n

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) May 15, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:19 (one month ago) link

tbf to draymond i can understand why rudy having four dpoys while he has one would upset him it is a farce

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:22 (one month ago) link

I find Draymond's voice unpleasant

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:26 (one month ago) link

hes not a pleasant person

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:28 (one month ago) link

I've always really liked Draymond. I think it's because I wasn't really exposed to him much until the last couple of years.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:07 (one month ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:09 (one month ago) link

he smirks when he talks on tv, it’s really irritating

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:06 (one month ago) link

for someone who is supposed to be like a controversial loose cannon i found him to be really devoid of personality or energy on that broadcast. even his needling of gobert was pretty low wattage

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:40 (one month ago) link

hes still a player and has to face these guys im sure he doesnt want to go full draymond until after hes retired

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:12 (one month ago) link

maybe that’s part of it. i more so mean that barkley is a showman, he has a presence on TV. shaq for all his faults had plenty of experience doing on camera entertainment by the time he retired. draymond is committing the worst sin which is being boring. but maybe it would get better over time

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:24 (one month ago) link

richard jefferson talking about the crowd crowd psychology so much tonight says that one advantage denver has is their crowd has championship experience especially considering the broncos have won rings too, lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 02:55 (one month ago) link

i think sometimes tv guys get in a zone where they dont even know what theyre saying theyre channeling some sort of higher truth

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 02:57 (one month ago) link

there's really nothing like the COMING UP KENDRICK PERKINS chyron

Clay, Friday, 17 May 2024 03:01 (one month ago) link

carry the hell on

espn guy prefacing a question to perk with "you were a leader on your teams" citation needed

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 03:06 (one month ago) link

watching some clips this morning, Bob Myers is so bad, he makes things so awkward

My wife commented last night asking what Huey Lewis was doing on a basketball show.

Jeff, Friday, 17 May 2024 13:01 (one month ago) link

lmao honestly though Huey would be way better

if myers would just ditch the self deprecating schtick and talk ball hed be so much better

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 17:54 (one month ago) link

hes just a another middle of the road talking head

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Friday, 17 May 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

i think most GM types are already too sanitized to be interesting even before they get trained for TV. these guys are boring in public for a living.

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 May 2024 18:23 (one month ago) link

yeah true theyre company men, maybe thats why sportswriters like morey so much he occasionally says something interesting

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 18:25 (one month ago) link

the nuggets/wolves coverage has been extra annoying just because these bizarre jeckyll & hyde games really feed into the current "go apeshit shouting and overreact to whatever happened in the last game" post stephen a smith paradigm

lol yup

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 18:49 (one month ago) link

i've been getting push notifications before and after every knicks' game that tell me about stephen a's feelings. the one before game 5: "knicks in trouble? stephen a. smith explains why he believes winning could be a challenge moving forward"; after game 5: "stephen a. gets hyped with mad dog and perk after knicks win"; and now before game 6: "why stephen a thinks celtics should want knicks matchup next"

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

if i wanted to know what he thought i'd text him myself!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

yeah of all the major sports I think hoops is the most predictable but there's just no telling what's gonna happen here. on the treadmill usually First Take is on, they talked about "whos gonna win" for 20 minutes, luckily I had my headphones in because I really have no clue what they could possibly be talking about for that long

frogbs, Friday, 17 May 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

stephan a was bizarre this morning, he had legler and monica mcnutt on and he literally wouldn't talk about the game he was fixated on how joker had been standing on the sidelines and staring and he said this was some ominous message of death for the wolves and he just wouldn't drop it mcnutt in particular seemed to be frustrated

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 18:58 (one month ago) link

“i know they look! every producer i’ve ever had has given me that look!”

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2024 19:05 (one month ago) link

*that look

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2024 19:05 (one month ago) link

listening to the lowe post hes like jayson tatum is a top ten player but hes closer to ten than one hes just not as good at getting shots as the other top guys left in the playoffs he cant get shots like jokic or donic... maybe not like playoff ant... uh brunson

thats why we listen to the smart guy podcast, counting ability

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 22:44 (one month ago) link

hes not wrong ive made the same point myself but the number of super elite shot creator is just very small, considering lukas current physical state there might just be one left playing, and theres a good chance he only has one game left

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 22:47 (one month ago) link

what’s happened to lowe is truly a cautionary tale about starting a TV career.

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 May 2024 22:48 (one month ago) link

hes become a narrative guy, but even by the very low standards of sports narrative hes not good at it

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 22:49 (one month ago) link

listening to him and the timberwolves guy trying to act all amused at the wolves ownership snafu was tough couldnt do it

lag∞n, Friday, 17 May 2024 22:54 (one month ago) link

ive really cooled on a lot of the og pod guys

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Friday, 17 May 2024 23:47 (one month ago) link

who is good now where can we turn

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2024 00:10 (one month ago) link

ILH

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Saturday, 18 May 2024 00:22 (one month ago) link

we are the only source of truth (good hoop content)

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Saturday, 18 May 2024 00:23 (one month ago) link

be your own podcast

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2024 00:28 (one month ago) link

i enjoy some hoops tiktokers. jokicjoestar is good, so is pablo escoball, coach jackie focuses on women's sports in general but covers a fair amount of hoops and is good

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Saturday, 18 May 2024 01:31 (one month ago) link

I like Tim Legler's "All NBA Podcast."

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 18 May 2024 01:35 (one month ago) link

nba TikTok is good

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 18 May 2024 13:19 (one month ago) link

wilbon is kinda the worst

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2024 20:56 (one month ago) link

tough to choose

brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:06 (one month ago) link

hes such a tedious bore

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:16 (one month ago) link

imo he was kind of a breath of fresh air in the early 2000s on espn bc most sports writers were stodgy white guys but he hasnt grown at all

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:39 (one month ago) link

i can't watch wilbon at all anymore, is he still complaining about millennials

Clay, Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:48 (one month ago) link

he has the most conventional cliche takes and delivers them like theyre the deepest wisdom

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2024 22:04 (one month ago) link

imo he was kind of a breath of fresh air in the early 2000s on espn bc most sports writers were stodgy white guys but he hasnt grown at all

― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Sunday, May 19, 2024 5:39 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think this is right, PTI was fun and the right mix of intelligent/irreverent at its peak, now he's just another old guy

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 May 2024 02:03 (one month ago) link

yeah pti was ok i liked the list

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 02:04 (one month ago) link

Pti and around the horn was fun for a moment in time. Really hard to be a sports generalist and sound smart now there’s too many specifics that’s have lapped these guys 100 times over. Steven a gets away w it cos he’s an entertainer first and does a good job selling whatever he’s saying, but I’m not going to Steven a for sound takes and wisdom.

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 20 May 2024 06:10 (one month ago) link

Specifics = specialists

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 20 May 2024 06:10 (one month ago) link

it's been a tough playoffs for the espn superstar narrative machine that's for sure, even the one blueblood market left in the celtics they always seem oddly unenthusiastic about

yeah they shouldve gotten behind this celtics team instead of deciding they were tired of them now what do they have left luka, sad

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 16:04 (one month ago) link

theyll prob change their minds about the celtics over the course of the pacers series if its going well, what other choice do they have

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 16:09 (one month ago) link

celtics dominating the playoffs so far but in a boring way vs depleted teams is a funny conundrum for the talking heads

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 16:14 (one month ago) link

lol my god just watched 7 minutes of first take supposedly talking about the game for 7 minutes and they literally spent the entire time pontificating about miller's "dumb ass question" thing at the press conference

whats the dumb ass question thing

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 16:42 (one month ago) link

assume he meant malone — malone got frustrated about a question about the blown 20 point lead and muttered “stupid ass question” after giving a frustrated non-answer

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:54 (one month ago) link

tough out there

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 18:07 (one month ago) link

that was one of the most fascinating series weve ever had theres so much in there to dissect but alas

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 20 May 2024 18:23 (one month ago) link

xpost - yeah they just talked about malone's conference and didn't really talk about the game

fuuuuuuuuuck noooooooooooooooo

Draymond Green will be part of TNT's "Inside the NBA" for the complete Western Conference Finals. He has not previously been part of the studio team for its on-site conference final coverage.

— Sports Media Watch (@paulsen_smw) May 20, 2024

its trenchant opinions and ax grinding time baby

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2024 22:06 (one month ago) link

he was good last year IMO. this year he went the way of "old media" and started making it about annoying and hot takes for engagement. maybe he'll settle down and get back to basics.

he USUALLY always come back after being a dummy like this and admits to being a dummy. but we'll see. its crazy the rudy thing was a pretty safe bet but the wolves have surprised us all.

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 20 May 2024 23:00 (one month ago) link

ILH historians will note that I love dray’s game and will defend him on the court forever. but he’s also a clown on the court and a wannabe buffoon perk off the court

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2024 23:08 (one month ago) link

I think it's a bad vibe to have currently active players being analysts during the playoffs

tbf that’s been happening across sports for years now. it might just be a bad idea to have draymond doing it

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 00:59 (one month ago) link

yah I don't know I can't be objective I hate him so much

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:00 (one month ago) link

He’s really got barely anyone on his side anymore besides some teammates, his fam, about 55% of warriors fans and a few people at Klutch

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 04:11 (one month ago) link

is it defense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 21:12 (one month ago) link

shhhh

haven’t seen any of the major guys tweet about it but it sounds like inside is officially over

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:28 (one month ago) link

damn rip

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:34 (one month ago) link

people arent giving jaylens shot enough credit and the stats back that up

https://x.com/ykb_app/status/1793117296539705613

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 18:35 (one month ago) link

Jaylen Brown's double bang was just the 7th of Mike Breen's career 🗣️

Here's all 7: pic.twitter.com/6clqJs8Xty

— YKB (@ykb_app) May 22, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 18:35 (one month ago) link

wild how already truly awful and dated the tight shirts long baggy pants era looks in that curry/okc clip

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 19:14 (one month ago) link

ha yeah was thinking the same they should fx those sleeved jerseys out of the historical record

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 19:17 (one month ago) link

enes kanter's (refuse to use his other name) shrug in the curry clip still gets me all these years later

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 19:41 (one month ago) link

yeah its good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 19:45 (one month ago) link

NBC contacted artist John Tesh about bringing back the iconic NBA on NBC theme song “Roundball Rock.” via @LeBatardShow.

Are you excited for it to potentially come back? pic.twitter.com/2NSqtCSLHZ

— NBA Retweet (@RTNBA) May 21, 2024

this is what the shaq stans on this board want to keep from us

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:43 (one month ago) link

finally some good news in the world

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:45 (one month ago) link

fox college basketball had the rights to it for a few years which means fans tuning into rutgers-northwestern got the roundball rock bumper

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 May 2024 00:02 (one month ago) link

Charles Barkley says morale sucks amid the uncertainty of "Inside the NBA" moving forward. And discusses the possibility of hiring the crew to his production company, continuing to do the show, and selling it. pic.twitter.com/gLoiKm7SM3

— Dan Patrick Show (@dpshow) May 23, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 20:01 (one month ago) link

that nate jones guy on twitter was pretty vociferously saying that latter scenario will happen. who knows if he's right but what he's saying makes sense logically

I think Amazon cuts a deal with Turner to continue to produce the show for them. https://t.co/Ur9dP6c3w0

— Nate Jones (@JonesOnTheNBA) May 22, 2024

Zaz still has to pay for operations to produce Turner NHL, MLB, and NCAA studio shows, so it makes sense to draw a profit from Amazon for something they will continue doing anyway (producing sports studio shows). Amazon pays talent salaries and production fees + profit to Turner. https://t.co/3Kab6q4bro

— Nate Jones (@JonesOnTheNBA) May 22, 2024

Inside the NBA is not NBC’s style at all, and NBC takes pride in producing their own sports shows. Amazon is more likely to farm out production. However, I could see Inside being more of a fit on Peacock. NBC has done less serious sports programming on there (Kevin Hart + Snoop) https://t.co/u6OtgMRuxv

— Nate Jones (@JonesOnTheNBA) May 22, 2024

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:16 (one month ago) link

makes sense but seems unlikely just in the sense that ive never seen an arrangement like that, at least not for something as big as the nba, if companies are shelling out billions for a sport theyre prob ready to just roll their own shows too, guess you never know with amazon not being a tv network but they do still produce a ton of stuff

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:21 (one month ago) link

inside will prob just turn into a podcast, sad!

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:22 (one month ago) link

VC-pilled nate jones has a lot of ideas

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:23 (one month ago) link

that shit you retweeted was so bad lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:24 (one month ago) link

those tweets were proof that no matter what opinion you come up with there’s someone out there who actually holds it.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:28 (one month ago) link

kevin hope you dont mind this crossover event but ilh needs to know

my three-part plan to fix the NBA:

1) subsidize their primary in-sport rival
2) erect as many barriers as possible for average fans to watch the games
3) bring back mark jackson https://t.co/zCH3UvUn5j pic.twitter.com/w0av40rFi3

— 𝒌𝒆𝒗𝒊𝒏 𝒌𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒓 (@radiokeller) May 22, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:31 (one month ago) link

well he's not the only one who has posited the idea that NBC or amazon could contract turner to produce the show

espn just contracted out college football games to turner, which has never broadcast college football before, this stuff is all getting really incestuous

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5513081/2024/05/22/college-football-playoff-tnt-sports/

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:34 (one month ago) link

The TNT games will be produced by ESPN and use ESPN broadcasters, but be branded TNT Sports, according to a source with direct knowledge of their plans. TNT could produce ancillary programming around the games, which could include a new show like, “Inside the College Football Playoff.” ESPN will get to choose the first two first-round games before TNT gets to make its selection.

ESPN, WBD Sports and Fox are teaming up for a stand-alone streaming product, named Venu, which will be available to consumers this fall and, according to executives briefed on the plans, will be priced in the $45-$50 per month range.

By working with Warner Bros. Discovery, ESPN is able to keep the entire playoff under the Venu umbrella.

nate jones is probably off wrt to the amazon aspect of it all. but it's extremely easy to read this and envision inside the nba produced by turner on "Venu" attached to espn's nba games

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:37 (one month ago) link

maybe amazon could just hire the inside guys

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:38 (one month ago) link

except for shaq

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:39 (one month ago) link

btw good chuck moment, why is everyone talking about this vacuous marketing "face of the league" bs recently who gives a shit

Charles Barkley with the PERFECT response to Kenny Smith’s horrible take ☘️ pic.twitter.com/hgQYTsoQne

— 𝙍𝙞𝙡𝙚𝙮 ☘️ (@CelticsRiley) May 23, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:41 (one month ago) link

maybe amazon could just hire the inside guys

― lag∞n, Thursday, May 23, 2024 5:38 PM (three minutes ago)

barkley is gonna be hired by one of the networks in an overall sports capacity prob making the most money in the history of sports TV

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:43 (one month ago) link

yeah sounds right

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:44 (one month ago) link

would be pretty funny to see chuck talk about a sport that he doesnt know anything about and hasnt done the reading

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:52 (one month ago) link

That talk show he did with Gayle King went nowhere. I'm not sure if non-NBA people get the appeal.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 23 May 2024 21:57 (one month ago) link

would be pretty funny to see chuck talk about a sport that he doesnt know anything about and hasnt done the reading

― lag∞n, Thursday, May 23, 2024 5:52 PM (seven minutes ago)

they've been putting him on ncaa tournament broadcasts for years! how much college basketball do you think he watches

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 22:00 (one month ago) link

That talk show he did with Gayle King went nowhere. I'm not sure if non-NBA people get the appeal.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, May 23, 2024 5:57 PM (two minutes ago)

non-nba and non-sports people are different categories. i don't think anyone will be asking him to do political roundtables anymore. but he almost left turner on his own to go announce LIV golf, both espn and NBC are pretty heavily invested in golf. espn will clearly just throw any big personality on TV to talk about every sport these days, stephen a has been doing stuff on first take like talking about football games that never actually happened, saying that a wide receiver who retired two years ago needed to step up etc and the fans of that stuff don't seem to care

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 22:04 (one month ago) link

It would kill me to see him yelling at Stephen A every day, yuck. That seems beneath him. Golf or WNBA or college basketball would be cool.

I think making his own thing is probably the best path... or getting the gang back together somehow. I certainly don't see him moving to LA or Connecticut to work on site at ESPN.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 23 May 2024 22:33 (one month ago) link

i don’t mean to say he’ll literally end up on first take, i don’t think that would happen. i’m just saying that the ESPN apparatus is very welcoming to big personalities who command attention from the audience whether they know what they’re talking about or not

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 22:40 (one month ago) link

ESPN would have him out there for the biggest SEC football games of the year, because he’s an auburn guy, regardless of whether he has a single informed or intelligent thing to say about i.e. georgia vs alabama

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 22:42 (one month ago) link

yeah SEC football is a good fit

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 23 May 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link

what i first thought of too

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2024 23:06 (one month ago) link

clip they played of shaq and kenny beefing 20 years ago was so good

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 May 2024 00:21 (one month ago) link

bad news for the mavs, wolves in 6

The Mavericks look like they're gonna win the NBA Finals. Elite defense and elite role players, led by two elite closers in Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. And by the way, Jason Kidd is coaching his ass off these playoffs.

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) May 25, 2024

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 May 2024 15:57 (one month ago) link

all podcast guys are are like "i talked about this yesterday on [podcast or tv show] and" who cares man just say the thing

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:41 (one month ago) link

lowe is the worst about this cause the person he talked to is always perk and we dont want to hear what perk has to say thats why we dont watch the show

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:42 (one month ago) link

tim macmahon has in a week gone from anointing ant as the next mvp to saying that kyrie is better than him, rough

lag∞n, Monday, 27 May 2024 16:34 (four weeks ago) link

unfortunate that bontemps isnt on this ep to take his victory lap

lag∞n, Monday, 27 May 2024 16:35 (four weeks ago) link

RIP Bill Walton, one of my favorite players and personalities.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 27 May 2024 17:27 (four weeks ago) link

oh damn rip big man

lag∞n, Monday, 27 May 2024 17:27 (four weeks ago) link

:(

fact checking cuz, Monday, 27 May 2024 17:34 (four weeks ago) link

He was one of the real ones.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 27 May 2024 17:38 (four weeks ago) link

last time i saw bill walton in the flesh he was holding court in a tie dye t-shirt in the lobby of the dolby theater in la during a neil young concert. the world is a lesser place in soooooo many ways without him.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 27 May 2024 17:38 (four weeks ago) link

RIP, what a character.

from r/gratefuldead:

"He was at dead & co last year at dodger stadium. Walked straight into GA and disappeared. A man of the people!"

His stat line for Portland in the finals against Philly: 18.5 points, 19 rebounds, 5.2 assist and 3.7 blocks while shooting 54.5% in a six-game series against Philadelphia.

Going to crank some some GD later.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 27 May 2024 19:53 (four weeks ago) link

I met bill once when I was 15, I was interning at the blazers corporate office and he swung by. I was introduced to him and he bent all the way over to shake my hand and in his signature bellow he said “Clay! What a name! It suits you!” and then turned his attention to something else law. I’ll never forget it.

Clay, Monday, 27 May 2024 20:16 (four weeks ago) link

rip, 71 too young for anyone but especially for a guy who seemed to enjoy life so much

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 May 2024 21:48 (four weeks ago) link

i remember that robert horry one from the broadcast, untouchable

Clay, Monday, 27 May 2024 22:13 (four weeks ago) link

Walton's peak as a player was really before I knew sports. I kinda remember him being on that later Celtics team but NBA back in those days was hit or miss on TV, heck the playoffs were not even on regular TV at all and were shown on a delay.

I do know that Walton really honked off a lot of 'Merica love it or leave it crowd as I remember if his name came up or when he was early in his broadcast career that dads or various older dudes would sometimes comment on him. Though some of those people I talk about that liked bball were way too much influenced by Bobby Knight for their own good and BK did not like Walton at all.

As the years went on and you see more interview segments to me Walton seemed to me like a pretty genuine dude both in his general humanity, as an athlete and a big fan of the Dead.

Far ye' well big red, listen to the river sing that sweet song to rock you away.

earlnash, Monday, 27 May 2024 23:36 (four weeks ago) link

did not realize steve jones jr of the dunker spot was steve "snapper" jones jr

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 15:45 (four weeks ago) link

BK did not like Walton at all.

I'd say this was to Walton's credit.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 17:06 (four weeks ago) link

Knight, truly the piece of shit coach's piece of shit coach

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 17:22 (four weeks ago) link

just a blatantly bad guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 17:46 (four weeks ago) link

"that took a long time for much ado about nothing" -svg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 02:05 (four weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hUFo1e_szc

seriously what the fuck is up with Shaq? this is their tribute to Bill Walton and when it's his turn he starts going on about how he use to be mad at Bill for criticizing him then all this nonsense about him being part of Shaq's stupid "Big Man Alliance" and "G14 status" or whatever the fuck that means

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:40 (four weeks ago) link

I’m not really bummed about Inside ending because it started sucking like even before Shaq came aboard, imo, I blame twitter or something

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:43 (four weeks ago) link

there’s no way we can possibly discuss this topic any further….

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:47 (four weeks ago) link

Dwyane Wade joining Noah Eagle on NBC's men's Olympic coverage.

Hmm, if NBC gets the NBA, Mike Tirico-Wade No. 1 team? 🤔

— Andrew Marchand (@AndrewMarchand) May 29, 2024



wade has generally always come off to me as a stiff phony, not optimistic about this direction at all. i think basketball TV is headed into a bad place in the amazon/NBC era

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:48 (four weeks ago) link

shaq because hes huge baby bitch has a whole thing with bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6mdpajKuAc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:50 (four weeks ago) link

shaq has so many weird beefs theres a compilation of all his episodes of that show

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:52 (four weeks ago) link

he hates bigs who challenge his all time standing

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:44 (four weeks ago) link

wade has generally always come off to me as a stiff phony, not optimistic about this direction at all. i think basketball TV is headed into a bad place in the amazon/NBC era
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, May 29, 2024 8:48 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

wade is very boring

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:45 (four weeks ago) link

good dad tho, i root 4 him as a visible and outspoken trans ally

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 23:53 (four weeks ago) link

yeah that has been really great to see

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:12 (three weeks ago) link

for sure he’s forever good in my book for that

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:21 (three weeks ago) link

the prospect of mike tirico and dwyane wade calling nba games is really dire shit

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:29 (three weeks ago) link

feel like itll just be really dull but not as bad as the bad tv guy, tho it could also be bad

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:30 (three weeks ago) link

These ESPN RV commercials were the best 🤣 pic.twitter.com/KkFBbQE0uj

— ThrowbackHoops (@ThrowbackHoops) May 30, 2024

we used to be a proper country

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 30 May 2024 16:23 (three weeks ago) link

i remember almost all of those lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 May 2024 16:40 (three weeks ago) link

every one of those is good and holds up lol.

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 30 May 2024 17:22 (three weeks ago) link

“no one touches the shaqtus”

brimstead, Thursday, 30 May 2024 17:23 (three weeks ago) link

i cant even remember shaq being with espn

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 30 May 2024 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

Those are so good.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 30 May 2024 17:29 (three weeks ago) link

i was wondering if this was the case

Confirmed via the Athletic pic.twitter.com/KSVo8Wz35e

— Timberwolves Muse (@Wolvesmuse) May 31, 2024

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 May 2024 19:59 (three weeks ago) link

everyone loves draymond

lag∞n, Friday, 31 May 2024 20:04 (three weeks ago) link

it is kind of weird, like are you supposed to go yukk it up with a guy who choked out one of your coworkers?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 May 2024 20:26 (three weeks ago) link

tnt couldve considered not putting a choker on air imho

lag∞n, Friday, 31 May 2024 20:28 (three weeks ago) link

the narratives are bad but the metanarratives are worse, who likes this stuff i dont understand

https://i.imgur.com/JQNY4YP.png

https://i.imgur.com/KgbO5ze.png

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

stop the backlash backlash

https://i.imgur.com/cWdPgkW.png

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:48 (three weeks ago) link

the word narrative should be disallowed, you should have to say story

https://i.imgur.com/1zNtXyY.png

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:50 (three weeks ago) link

i just like to watch my stories

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:49 (three weeks ago) link

*me firing up my television to watch the nba finals* looks like it's time for muh progrum

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:51 (three weeks ago) link

Lmao

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 3 June 2024 01:10 (three weeks ago) link

Stephen A. Smith: "Who talks about the WNBA, who talks about women, who talks about women's sports more than First Take?"

Monica McNutt: "Stephen A., respectfully, with your platform, you could have been doing this three years ago if you wanted to."

Stephen A.: "Wow." pic.twitter.com/szQXOPQ3h4

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) June 3, 2024

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:06 (three weeks ago) link

get him

lag∞n, Monday, 3 June 2024 16:12 (three weeks ago) link

got dressed down on his own show you hate to see it

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:24 (three weeks ago) link

ESPN just shining today

Kendrick Perkins: “Not one single series did [the Celtics] sweep [any team].”

Shannon Sharpe: “Indiana!”

Perkins: “Oh yeah, they just swept them. I’m sorry... But they’re supposed to sweep these guys.” 😅

(via @espn)pic.twitter.com/vnbEvCGBQA

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPoints) May 29, 2024

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 June 2024 19:17 (three weeks ago) link

really dont understand why perk decided to hate the celtics, hes burned through all the championship good will with the fans, cant imagine the team and org care for him too much at this point, its just weird hes trying to prove hes real or something, he used to be on the local celtics shows all the time mightve been smart to keep that in his back pocket

lag∞n, Monday, 3 June 2024 19:24 (three weeks ago) link

lol haslem trying not to laugh at perks buffoonery

lag∞n, Monday, 3 June 2024 19:25 (three weeks ago) link

why is perk on television I will never understand

Clay, Monday, 3 June 2024 20:28 (three weeks ago) link

its cause of his sweet accent

lag∞n, Monday, 3 June 2024 20:30 (three weeks ago) link

I do like the accent

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 June 2024 20:40 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E86fWIO35Xc

brimstead, Monday, 3 June 2024 21:08 (three weeks ago) link

what the heck

lag∞n, Monday, 3 June 2024 21:47 (three weeks ago) link

haha, the moses moody moment, a real gold classic

it’s like espn wanted their version of shaq and got perk instead

sknybrg, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:03 (three weeks ago) link

steve was grumpy on the dunker spot today he said he wasnt feeling well maybe he has allergies

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 16:58 (three weeks ago) link

pretty good discussion about TV stuff (mixed in w/ a lot of complaining) on the simmons/rusillo pod w/ bryan curtis. one point that curtis made that is simple but true is that barkley ultimately will have all the power here, and if he decides that he is a package deal w/ the rest of the 'inside' guys then the show will survive. if he's fine leaving and going somewhere else and taking the biggest check or whatever regardless then the show very likely won't survive in its current incarnation

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 18:10 (three weeks ago) link

shd do the package deal without shaq

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 18:25 (three weeks ago) link

lol what did you do!

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:41 (two weeks ago) link

I don't know! I definitely never had any kind of back and forth with him, very odd

maybe you were out there dissing tesla self-driving or something

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:20 (two weeks ago) link

a part of the twisted KOC saga i was unaware of until recently is he started is career on celticsblog.com and now hes always doubting the celitcs picking against them etc trying to compensate or maybe just cause hes dumb, anyway celtics fans despise him

https://i.imgur.com/gMZjzOG.png

btw note the embedded tweet in the reply, what a fuckin loser my god

https://i.imgur.com/pSuUSwJ.png

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:26 (two weeks ago) link

celtics blogging is an auspicious place to start an nba journo career, zach lowe's first gig was celticshub.com. of course not entirely coincidental, since i'm pretty sure it was simmons who gave koc his first national scale gig and audience. he employed lowe too but i think lowe was at si before grantland. shocking that i would suspect bill simmons of homer-nepotism, i know

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 7 June 2024 17:45 (two weeks ago) link

i didnt know lowe started at celticshub thats wild down there in the celtics content minor leagues

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2024 18:06 (two weeks ago) link

media trying to make a thing out of jaylens hand resting on washingtons back is sad stuff they should get a life

lag∞n, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:46 (two weeks ago) link

Gotta have something to argue about and to make the series seems closer than it’s been

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 10 June 2024 16:23 (two weeks ago) link

i can understand it from the talking heads but the game broadcast coming back from commercial after time expired and doing a whole bit about it where breen was like that is a big foul and then that was the end was a bad look imo

lag∞n, Monday, 10 June 2024 20:30 (two weeks ago) link

it was very dumb

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 10 June 2024 21:04 (two weeks ago) link

lmao the quote

lag∞n, Monday, 10 June 2024 22:30 (two weeks ago) link

lmao i think more ppl should compare themselves to jesus christ, trump, perk, kanye, it p much lets me know they have nothing to offer but their public humiliation kink

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 10 June 2024 23:12 (two weeks ago) link

peak perk wow

pontius pilate to jesus christ: your blocked

lag∞n, Monday, 10 June 2024 23:29 (two weeks ago) link

if u think abt it the resurrection was about overcoming cancel culture and defeating the woke mob

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 10 June 2024 23:30 (two weeks ago) link

ive been saying that

lag∞n, Monday, 10 June 2024 23:34 (two weeks ago) link

take, yeet, this is my body *shares edgy memes*, which is unwoke for you: this do in remembrance of me (user _godsson69 logged off)

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 10 June 2024 23:37 (two weeks ago) link

father forgive them, for they know not what they share, like, and subscribe

Clay, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 00:48 (two weeks ago) link

is this the thread to say that mpj, once again, should shut the fuck up?

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 02:59 (two weeks ago) link

oh no what did he do now

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 14:37 (two weeks ago) link

he decided now was the time to share his opinion abt trans women in sports, and it's the standard issue bad one

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 15:14 (two weeks ago) link

i also didn't know Mazzula was a big born again Christian but that explains some of his weirdo energy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 16:31 (two weeks ago) link

hes catholic

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 16:32 (two weeks ago) link

Another pod

Steph Curry’s Unanimous Media to launch a new podcast hosted by Steph and Dell Curry called Heat Check 🔥 The pod launches this Thursday.

(via @MarcJSpears) pic.twitter.com/kRfjvlQhNM

— TheWarriorsTalk (@TheWarriorsTalk) June 11, 2024

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 21:18 (two weeks ago) link

doesn't feel like curry really has the gift of gab like a lot of the other podcasting players and ex-players do. any time i've heard him interviewed he's 100% professional and also 100% non-riveting. Maybe old Dell will bring a spark though, who knows

intheblanks, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 04:12 (two weeks ago) link

just read a descriptions and it's look's like it's just going to be an auto-hagiography of steph

intheblanks, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 04:15 (two weeks ago) link

"it looks" i mean, not "it's look's" haha

intheblanks, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 04:15 (two weeks ago) link

I’m done with player pods.

Jeff, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 10:26 (two weeks ago) link

"the headline should be that the celtics melted down on offense in the most predictable way" --zach lowe

really that should be the headline for a game which they won to go up 3-0 in the finals, im thinking more third graph

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:00 (one week ago) link

hes doing a whole segment on the this hes very passionate about it, havent been able to get through one of his pods in a while, sad

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:09 (one week ago) link

it just feels like where the game is now, big leads barely mean anything anymore, like a 15 point lead can evaporate in a few minutes, teams are gonna make runs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:10 (one week ago) link

there's just too many super gifted offensive players on a bunch of teams

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:11 (one week ago) link

think it was more the Celtics just breaking down on offense like for 5 minutes they barely got a shot off

frogbs, Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:13 (one week ago) link

its was a real bad stretch but thats why you go up by 20, and then they pulled it together and won the game

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:17 (one week ago) link

wtf is lowe’s problem, i haven’t listened but heard he was dissecting luka’s fouls like the zapruder film

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:56 (one week ago) link

hes got bristol brain, baby, incurable

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:57 (one week ago) link

dallas never led or even tied lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:59 (one week ago) link

i forwarded past the those first two segments of the luka fouls and the celtics cold snap where he seemed depressed over the whole sitch, and now hes cheered up and is complimenting the celtics saying he always believed in them shouldve started that way then dug into the details after, weird stuff

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:05 (one week ago) link

dallas never led or even tied lol

― call all destroyer, Thursday, June 13, 2024 12:59 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they were up the whole first half!

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:14 (one week ago) link

no i meant in the famous run following the 21 point lead

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:24 (one week ago) link

Haven't listened to this Lowe-cast, and honestly probably won't.

I had the same experience others had upthread with his Finals preview, where he started with a capital-S SERIOUS "WHICH TEAM HAS MORE AT STAKE?" question. Then he was pre-emptively super-defensive about the question itself, then started talking about some dumb shit that Perk said on TV. Had to shut it off!

I listened to his podcast religiously from like 2017 to 2022 but I feel like something changed around then that I can't quite put my finger on.

Maybe I don't really feel like I learn anything from him anymore, plus he's like 20% more manic and shticky than he used to be. And the constant mentions of what his ESPN TV colleagues think, as has been covered well upthread.

intheblanks, Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:31 (one week ago) link

I tend to skip to the guest with TLP but I like his guest segments a lot. They usually have room to talk, whereas THC is the same ten jokes over and over mixed with small servings of very good analysis.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:22 (one week ago) link

xp manic and schticky is right, he also talks way more than he lets the guests talk. he usually has some good points buried in there but it’s a lot.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:35 (one week ago) link

it is really weird the whole groupthink that developed over the course of this season where somehow the team that was by far the best team in the nba all regular season by any objective/statistical measure was somehow not the favorite the win the championship

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:35 (one week ago) link

people saw the 2021 jazz and the 2022 suns and have now overcorrected into thinking the statistically strongest team is always a paper tiger

intheblanks, Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:43 (one week ago) link

also boston playing in the weaker east was a factor, even though they went 23-7 against western teams during the regular season

intheblanks, Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:47 (one week ago) link

i don't think it was misguided groupthink to say that denver should have been considered the favorites. i think at any point in history any title team returning their starting 5 of guys all still more or less in their primes has had a claim to being title favorites. and if denver played boston in a 7 game series maybe they would beat them

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:53 (one week ago) link

yes Denver for sure I was more thinking of how people across the board were picking Dallas

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:04 (one week ago) link

Yeah, it's totally fair to have had the Nuggets as favorites to repeat. That said, I do think a lot of people saw Boston's regular season success as a mirage on some level. I mean, more than half of the ESPN experts picked the Mavs to win this series

intheblanks, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:05 (one week ago) link

well…I think it was also a bit of a case of not understanding basic probability. even if the nuggets were the best team this year, which is arguable, they still had to make their way through a loaded west to even have the chance to play the celtics in the finals. you can hypothetically be a 3-1 favorite three series in a row and you’d still be well under 50% to make it through all three.

I do think the celtics were the best and most complete team, but their road to the finals was probably historically easy…something that’s been more or less the case for east champs for 25 years now. at some point someone should do something about this imo…

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:09 (one week ago) link

and it turned out it wasnt just the celtics path to the finals that was easy, the finals was easy too

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:12 (one week ago) link

yeah I don’t want to get too much in the business of discounting individual championship runs, the celtics have def earned it this year. but there’s a pattern that seems like it’s bad for the league esp now that lebron is out of the east/irrelevant

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:14 (one week ago) link

on the other hand in the aforementioned 25 years, the east has gone 8-17 against the west

intheblanks, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:15 (one week ago) link

it would be more fair and also more entertaining to de conference the league imho

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:18 (one week ago) link

needs to happen at some point

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 13 June 2024 23:54 (one week ago) link

Now that the broadcast is over, I’ve gotta say, I don’t feel like the NBA and ABC did a good job at all making this feel like a big event. Finals logos and legends should just be everywhere. The Stephen A halftime show was a joke. Top to bottom, they’ve gotta reevaluate it all.

— Shehan Jeyarajah (@ShehanJeyarajah) June 18, 2024


Really had very poor to mediocre vibes

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 06:31 (one week ago) link

kinda true tho i liked not having the big dumb logo sticker at center court, especially since players slip on it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:54 (one week ago) link

I do think the celtics were the best and most complete team, but their road to the finals was probably historically easy…something that’s been more or less the case for east champs for 25 years now. at some point someone should do something about this imo…

― brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, June 13, 2024 5:09 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

what do you even do about this though besides dropping the conferences, is the league gonna force new ownership in NY and chicago? theres not any fundamental reason the east should be worse, its mostly from that

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 13:20 (one week ago) link

lol cedric maxwell wandering around jumping in on multiple broadcasts to say how bout them celtics and somewhat incongruously see you later fakin lakers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 13:29 (one week ago) link

lol I just listened to Lowe and was coming to post about Cedric, trash talking James Worthy lol

cornbread time

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 13:49 (one week ago) link

I hate that the Celtics officially have more championships than us now 🙄

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) June 18, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:15 (one week ago) link

simmons championship pod w/ dad… that’s an auto delete from me……

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:43 (one week ago) link

cool to see that jackie mac came thru the hoop collective postgame pod tho. heard her name mentioned i think on their last pod re an old story she had written and i was like, damn all this celtics talk and jackie mac is a ghost, at least nationally. didn’t feel right to me

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:45 (one week ago) link

not sure if anything is going on w/her other than taking retirement seriously but i miss her a lot for sure

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 14:56 (one week ago) link

for some reason i remember thinking that her split from espn seemed somewhat acrimonious but reading back about it now it seems like she just wanted to quit working. shoutout to her

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 15:03 (one week ago) link

Hopefully she’s perfected her Embiid impression.

Jeff, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 15:23 (one week ago) link

i listened to jackie’s bit of the pod, apparently she’s been doing some local tv

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:13 (one week ago) link

thats a nice part time retirement job

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:15 (one week ago) link

that was a good pod nice freewheeling style

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:22 (one week ago) link

so many ladies in the background getting their pictures taken throwing confetti into the air

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 16:33 (one week ago) link

Just filed for the final time with @ShotDrJr. Tomorrow’s Tier 1 is sadly my last for @TheAthleticNBA. It’s been a great 5 years, first 2 full time and last 3 as a contributor.

Had great times working not just with Rob, but the GOAT @thatgonzalez

1/x

— Anchorage Man (@SethPartnow) June 21, 2024

damn we’re losing partnow

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 June 2024 01:50 (five days ago) link

Tbh, he’s kind of annoying. I get tired of him dunking on randos on X because he’s smarter than them.

Jeff, Friday, 21 June 2024 02:49 (five days ago) link

ESPN's opening bid for Stephen A is $18 million per year. He wants more. @Ourand_Puck https://t.co/pk6L14zQkX

— Bryan Curtis (@bryancurtis) June 21, 2024

18 million a year huh

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 June 2024 04:16 (five days ago) link

lmao let him go to fox, jesus

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 21 June 2024 04:42 (five days ago) link

ESPN getting rid of Jeff Van Gundy after being concerned he would jump back into coaching, only to replace him with Doc Rivers and JJ Redick, who both left within months for coaching jobs, is hilarious.

— Moneybagg Yo(hannes) 🇪🇷 (@AronYohannes) June 20, 2024

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Friday, 21 June 2024 15:31 (five days ago) link

I’m old enough to remember when we needed to protect ‘inside’ because it was better than the alternative NBA product…but now that I think of it there are some big stephen A boosters within our quarters as well

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 June 2024 15:36 (five days ago) link

it has been so long since inside was good, im starting to doubt it was good in the first place. there were definitely fewer hot takes and the shenanigans weren’t all in bold capital blinking letters.

brimstead, Friday, 21 June 2024 19:27 (five days ago) link

it's only good now when Charles says something goofy and makes Shaq giggle not really for hoops


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