2019-20 NBA Regular Degular Season thread

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friends it's time

nuggets will win the nba playoffs

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the Portland Trail Blazers will not be swept out of the first round of the nba playoffs

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im so pumped for the uncertainty of outcomes

ready to tee off our first year w/o melo rip

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excited for our son's first nba season

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xp super excited for this houston rockets experiment of playing with two basketballs

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lmao

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lebron one is ice cold lmao

chairman lmao

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o shit i forgot cp3 —played in okc— before

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i love that meyers leonard pic and how horny it made j0rdan

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i love that meyers leonard pic and how horny it made j0rdan

― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:50 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

out of solidarity, it made all of us h*rny

otm i was lusting

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good times on the way
do i pay 200 for season pass y/n

“Jazz fans are gonna love Jeff Green”— Matt Harpring

lol

ha

let's check in on the kangz

Kings guard Buddy Hield is taking these contract talks very personally. In an emotional postgame interview, he talked about “finding another home” if the team doesn’t get a deal done by Monday’s deadline. pic.twitter.com/sEkJEZfNkS

— Jason Anderson (@JandersonSacBee) October 17, 2019

Hield argued he deserves the Max because free agents don’t want to come to Sacramento. Not a great thing to say publicly

If Hield got a max contract, he'd be untradeable anywhere - except to the Wizards.

hes a very elite shooter which certainly isnt nothing but yeah not a max player

all the rockets are now an inch shorter

#Rockets UPDATED Height Measurements

-P.J. Tucker 6'5 (old: 6'6)
-Eric Gordon 6'3 (old: 6'4)
-Ryan Anderson 6'9 (old: 6'10)
-Tyson Chandler 7'0 (old: 7'1)
-Danuel House 6'6 (old: 6'7)
-Austin Rivers 6'3 (old: 6'4)
-Thabo Sefolosha 6'6 (old: 6'7)
-Ben McLemore 6'3 (old: 6'5) pic.twitter.com/qlOnikrAQj

— Alykhan Bijani (@Rockets_Insider) October 17, 2019

ben mclemore haa

Wizards and Bradley Beal agree to 2-year, $72M max extension, per @wojespn

The total value of the SG’s deal is now 4 years, $130M 💰 pic.twitter.com/vuiVpQso65

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) October 17, 2019

hmmm sign and trade Hield for Wiggins...

wiggins is the quintessential king it's true.

If the kings were concerned about money why did they sign up for harrison Barnes

Also didn’t Ranadive supposedly love Hield

Andrew Wiggins is supposedly a very nice guy, I think they could learn to love each other

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/255771/Andrew-Wiggins-Theres-Not-100-Players-Better-Than-Me

that's the competitive drive! he won't stop until he's the 78th best player in the NBA! can't teach that

love the self own

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cheers to manu for committing to the look, jeers to tony for just putting the hat on

gonna check this out i think
https://vimeo.com/208736435

at 1:13 there's a brief shot of a street ball. it is as smooth as an egg. I've played with balls like that, too.

...

this is I Love Hoops, ciderpress. don't lose focus.

Going through old photos and came across me and lil bro in Paris pic.twitter.com/e0oI5lNEGt

— Tyrone Muggsy Bogues (@MuggsyBogues) October 18, 2019

Sources: The Golden State Warriors are waiving forward Alfonzo McKinnie, clearing way for Marquese Chriss to make regular-season roster. McKinnie will be one of the top available players on market.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 18, 2019

which of course means this season is a wash and lets tank and gear up for 2021-22

muggsy lj photo is great

I would like to go thru old hoopers' old pics

Damn, losing Zo is a bummer, but Chriss does look pretty good.

dubs basically HAVE to roll the dice on anyone cheap with upside at this point.

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let's check in on the knicks:

There has been some ‘early grumbling’ among some Knicks players about their role with the team, per @IanBegley

— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) October 18, 2019

More re: new height measurements
https://apple.news/AGrXZDnM-OFKenmJ5aYCcBA

watching knicks-pels and tnt has decided that we need a shot clock superimposed on the floor just behind the foul line at all times, even when it's frozen at 24 b/c a guy is shooting free throws

no trade turner to the celtics

Pacers reportedly testing trade market for Domantas Sabonis https://t.co/qWtDNAWfry

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 19, 2019

so now everyone knows they don't want to play him at the 4 and that he wants a big contract, yes very opportune time to explore the trade market

i think the issue is more $$ than fit

they shd just pay him (and trade turner to the celtics)

i think the issue is more $$ than fit

― micah, Friday, October 18, 2019 9:43 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is probably true but a lot of the preseason stuff i read suggested they wanted to see how it looked with turner and sabonis. money does top everything but seems like they no longer care how it looks.

goon you need to stop talking about the celtics trading for turner, i keep thinking about it and it's just so good and then i get sad b/c it won't happen

sabonis worth is hard to establish. hes a both a 4/5 tweener and a starter/bench tweener.

his best fit is as a sixth man which caps playoff value

goon you need to stop talking about the celtics trading for turner, i keep thinking about it and it's just so good and then i get sad b/c it won't happen

― call all destroyer, Friday, October 18, 2019 9:56 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

now u know how i feel!

xp yeah. it seems like there's a contingent that really likes him because his value is always discussed as if it's higher than that.

turners a great role player and defender, and you could picture him playing 38mpg on a team that goes to the finals. even though sabonis has a much broader skill set its really hard to see him playing that many minutes for a truly top level team

i'm gonna enjoy watching Hunter this year. he plays some godly defense.

trae looks a lot more locked in on D too. he's moving his feet and keeping his man in front of him which is a vast improvement on last year's D.

If trae is still locked in by January this will be much realer news.

i'll let you know

Seriously considering putting my life savings on the under for Charlotte’s win total. It’s 23.5 and I can’t fathom how this team could win 20 unless there’s a league wide MRSA outbreak.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-players-of-the-last-6-seasons/

I like RAPTOR because it says chris paul is good

... Danny green?

lol

strong possibility of an alltime hoisting season here :]

Stephen Curry's per-36 stats over the preseason (98-minute sample): 39.5 points, 4.1 boards, 6.3 assists, 2.2 steals, 1.5 blocks, 4.1 turnovers and 5.9 treys on a 32.6 USG%, a 69.0 TS% and a 114.1 pace.

— Michael Gallagher (@MikeSGallagher) October 19, 2019

No KD. No Klay. Steph ahoisting.

No KD, no Klay = box-and-one all season. :/

I don’t understand why Sabonis and Turner wouldn’t be a good fit

Seems like people think Sabonis is a pure center but he’s got the wingspan of a shooting guard and doesn’t really offer anything defensively. To me that’s a power forward!

oh they definitely can play together, especially against bigger lineups.

steph gonna do some things for sure but defenses are gonna be locked in on him, dlo gonna have to be consistent

Curry should take 12 3s per game. Let’s see what happens

otm why stop there even

he may have to take 15 for this team to stay afloat

If you shoot 37% on 35 foot pullups and no one guards that and your team is bad...

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/10/18/kevin-durant-height

"For me, when I’m talking to women, I'm 7 feet."

same

we need to do predictions!!

WEST

1 nuggets
2 clippers
3 jazz
4 rockets
5 blazers
6 lakers
7 warriors
8 t wolves

LEAST

1 sixers
2 bucks
literally who cares lol

OFFS

clippers over nuggets
sixers over bucks
clippers > sixers

MVP - zion
MIP - zion
ROY - zion

i already did my prediction it's in the first post

oh I agree

i also predict people will post the word "valgus" in this thread more times than any prior season

I am going to be a single-issue poster this season and that issue will be zion

My prediction is that the Jazz will badly underperform expectations

i think they'll win 50 games again

dunno what people expect of them

Over under for Jazz wins is 53.5

WEST

1 jazz
2 nuggets
3 clippers
4 rockets
5 lakers
6 warriors
7 blazers
8 spurs

EAST

1 bucks
2 sixers
3 celtics
4 heat
5 magic
6 nets
7 raptors
8 pacers

OFFS

clippers over jazz
bucks over sixers
clippers over bucks

MVP - steph
ROY - zion

Buddy 4/86 extendo

seems like the right deal for both sides

West
1 clips
2 lakers
3 nuggs
4 rockets
5 jazz
6 warriors
7 just blaze
8 spurs

East
1 bucks
2 sixers
3 celts
4 magics
5 heat
6 raps
7 pistons
8 pacers

MVP giannis
Finals clips over sixers

https://www.bet.com/news/sports/2019/10/21/nba-cracking-down-on-fan-behavior--league-to-institute-zero-tole.html

WEST

1 rockets
2 nuggets
3 clippers
4 jazz
5 lakers
6 warriors
7 blazers
8 spurs

EAST

1 bucks
2 sixers
3 raptors
4 celtics
5 heat
6 pacers
7 magic
8 nets

MVP: Brow
DPOY: Joel
ROY: Ja (Zion wont play enough games)
COY: Nurse
6MOY: Bogdan
MIP: Bam Bam
Leading scorer: Steph
Champion: Nuggets
Runner-up: 76ers
Most disappointing team: Nets
Most surprising team: Mavs?

My one prediction that I've been irritating my friends with irl is Sacto finishing with a better record than the GSW

Feel like Vlade deserves a lot of credit for what happened with Hield’s contract here.

I find these guys' newsletter very helpful to keep up with hoops criticism; they send a daily note all year long with like thirty article links:
http://basketballintelligence.net/

and they just sent this:

IMPORTANT NOTE: Basketball Intelligence will become a paid site on November 10. The good news is that ALL EXISTING SUBSCRIBERS AS OF THAT DATE WILL RETAIN FREE ACCESS TO BI FOREVER! If you are not a current subscriber, you have until November 9 to subscribe for free. You can subscribe and gain “free forever” access by registering at BI. Tell your friends!

a lot the over under numbers look too high to me but i guess someone has to win the games

I predict that the previously unstoppable GSW dynasty will not prevail this season, nor will there be a new Raptors dynasty to replace it. Other than that I am bad at predicting NBA seasons in advance and will refrain from it itt.

However, I am very unconvinced by the all-new Javale Lakers atm.

West
1 clips
2 dank nuggets
3 rockets
4 lakers
5 blazers
6 famous jazz of utah
7 mavs
8 warriors

East
1 bucks
2 sixers
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mvp: wardell

offs:
clippers over lakers
sixers over buckers
clips get the chip

4/115 extension for jaylen brown??

maybe he promised ainge he would play better?

I don’t get the celtics

I think kyrie broke ainge

more like the boston selltix

who were they bidding against to pay him $30m per year

the charlotte hornets

that seems shall we say "high"

it's fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O05mMuDvnLc

So they end up signing Sabonis anyway, what was that whole narrative about

Zion surgery!!!!????!?!?!!

getting scoped before he even plays an nba minute this is not good

oh maaaaaaaaan

I am disconsolate

east overperform: ATL
east underperform: PHI

west overperform: DAL
west underperform: LAL

zion gotta take this couple months to slim down

kd eats snake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dkhq1q81WSk

that whole episode is so great. surge brings the best out of guys.

i support the extension but man that is a nice piece of business by jaylen brown

i think its only 115 with all incentives vested?

ah i see... has any NBA reporter offered any insight as to why we're starting to see incentives built into these deals now

anyone know if the former nbastr3ams r3ddit board has a new home this year

try nba bite dot com, i think that's where it's at now

cool thanks

bless

ah i see... has any NBA reporter offered any insight as to why we're starting to see incentives built into these deals now

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 21, 2019 7:27 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think likely and unlikely incentives have been around for a bit and are just being more widely reported. guys like nate duncan always joke that a lot of agents want to do stuff like use unlikely incentives to get a contract to $100M so it can be reported that way in the news.

Western Conference

Houston Rockets
Denver Nuggets
Los Angeles Clippers
Utah Jazz
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Dallas Mavericks
Oklahoma City Thunder
Minnesota Timberwolves
Portland Trailblazers
New Orleans Pelicans
Phoenix Suns
San Antonio Spurs
Sacramento Kings
Memphis Grizzlies

Eastern Conference

Milwaukee Bucks
Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
Boston Celtics
Indiana Pacers
Orlando Magic
Miami Heat
Brooklyn Nets
Detroit Pistons
Chicago Bulls
Washington Wizards
Atlanta Hawks
Cleveland Cavaliers
Charlotte Hornets
New York Knicks

Championships

Eastern Conference Champions: Milwaukee Bucks
Western Conference Champions: Houston Rockets
NBA Champions: Houston Rockets

Awards

Most Valuable Player: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Rookie of the Year: Zion Williamson
Defensive Player of the Year: Rudy Gobert
Coach of the Year: Mike Malone
Most Improved: Markelle Fultz
Sixth Man: Lou Williams
Executive of the Year: Lawrence Frank

• Jaylen Brown is good. He could be really good.
• Zion’s surgery is a major bummer.

i'm thinking about the hawks, celtics, nets, hornets, bulls, cavs, mavericks, nuggets, pistons, warriors, rockets, pacers, clippers, lakers, grizzlies, heat, bucks, timberwolves, pelicans, knicks, thunder, magic, sixers, suns, blazers, kings, spurs, raptors, jazz, and wizards

utah
houston
denver
clippers
lakers
portland
new orleans
sacramento

milwaukee
philadelphia
boston
toronto
miami
brooklyn
orlando
indiana

east: philadelphia over milwaukee
west: clippers over houston
champs: clippers over philadelphia

raptors vs zion-less pelicans is a tremendous season opener thank you network television

“Suns are the worst organisation I’ve ever played for, it was and probably still is a big brothel on wheels” - Marcin Gortat

suns love to fuck

this isn't fact-checked but it sounds reasonable

"Burdel na kółkach" (brothel on wheels) is a Polish phrase describing a crazy, out of control situation.

— Maciek Piotrowski (@tesamedni) October 22, 2019

I trust maciek piotrowski on this one

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27820197/wild-nba-predictions-giannis-big-decision-trades-watch-for

lowe's predictions

indy missing the playoffs is the only thing in there wild enough that i haven't considered it

with the news today that klay is prob out for the whole season now i could see the warriors measuring the first 25 games and if the results arent great (or if dray/curry get slightly banged up)... tanking

They've been tanking since the moment the season ended imo

i hope they dont :(

If they finish with a top-ten record they lose their first rounder to Brooklyn.

The only way I could see them tanking is if Steph has a minor injury that they stretch to 40 games a la DRob

i'm sure every game is already pre-sold out but no team moving into a new arena has ever wanted to tank

the warriors will 100% believe that they can beat any team in a 7 game series and therefore just need to get into the playoffs, and teams like 6-13 in the west will be so tightly bunched that there's no way they'll tank

prediction: clips will be champs and steph-harden will be 1-2 in scoring or 2-1, philly will trade one of their many centers, celtics will trade for a center

celtics should trade for... al horford

i know right

still kinda want the celtics to be the steven adams team

best time of the year to be a knicks fan, savor it while you can

Happy Basketball is Back Day, earth! pic.twitter.com/m4x9Ai16In

— Cory Eaves (@ManuteBogues) October 22, 2019

Should I buy Christmas Day tickets to the pelicans game or not?

Feel like they’re gonna try to have him play in that one

lowry is antifa

yes matt do it

west:
hou
den
lac
uta
lal
por
gsw
sas

east:
phi
mil
tor
ind
mia
bos
orl
chi

ecf: phi
wcf: lac
ring: lac

mvp: harden
roy: white
dpoy: turner
coy: doc
6th: lou

are the rumors true has basketball returned

Pels have a lot of good players

These guys gotta be so happy to be playing for Gentry

An actual buck in chris Paul’s garage? Allstate has signed up for some random....

How are the raptors fans booing this call

this pels team is kinda fun

If you just listen to Marv Albert’s commentary you hear a very different game

“Nicole Mell”

What a thrill to see the ‘19 banner being unveiled. :’)

I guess I don't understand why ppl are so high on houston and the jazz

I guess I picked the jazz to place third lol

so many guesses

the jazz should be a really good regular season team, but i don't see them having a much higher playoff ceiling

Yeah kev I thought you were high on them xp

Omg Lonzo. What a cool player

this team and coach is such a good fit for him

Kind of painful how perfectly constructed they seem to be for Zion but hopefully just 2 months away

Terence Davis looks like he’s making all-defense teams

Looking at the East I wouldn’t be surprised if Raps made the finals again, it would take some luck and perhaps a trade, but really it’s not so impossible.

Which is more to say the East is weak.

i judge championship rings based on overall ridiculousness and this is a really good one

A historic ring for a historic accomplishment. #WeTheNorth pic.twitter.com/IZdkXQTj4B

— Toronto Raptors (@Raptors) October 22, 2019

Not a fan of how much lowry flops now

lowry is at 65% hof probability according to bball ref which rmde

ah yes the norm powell iso

wow fvv is ballin the fuck OUT

i said it during our fantasy draft but i'm def feelin that dude this year

It seemed like he played 40 minutes

6th team for Troy daniels at age 28. Possibly a record

Vleet of Voot indee

Clippers just have a roster that makes too much sense

Absurdly high usage for AD and Lebron

wait until they find out they're being used

Hope Kanye can talk to them

Never noticed that Danny Green has a Bullseye tattoo on his arm.

Seriously wondering if the lakers need to trade a 2026 pick

Brow playing so inspired ball this quarter huh

gonna go out on a limb and say danny green won't be keeping that up

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope was a miserable -8 (27 minutes, 0 field goals, 0 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 turnover).

Lou Williams was a +13 (21 points in 37 minutes). This could become a Manu Ginóbili situation.

New iOS autocorrects Ginóbili.

6th team for Troy daniels at age 28. Possibly a record

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:09 PM (yesterday)

doubt it's even close tbh. tobias harris is 26 and on his fifth

gosh you just hate to wake up and see the lakers have started their season with a big fat L

and against the clippers without Paul George, ya hate to see it

Lakers season seems entirely reliant on kuzma being good

Brow body language in the 4th was something. Maybe it was the face of him realizing he has to play the 5

Clips gonna be a problem damn

beverly fired up

tbh this version of the Clippers is a lot easier to take than past contenders imo

fuck Chris Paul basically

Giannis says if Bucks underperform, decision to stay in Milwaukee becomes 'a lot more difficult'

curry / giannis gonna be a cool pairing

I can’t seem to figure out how to subscribe to league pass via YouTube tv this year, what the hell

Brow body language in the 4th was something. Maybe it was the face of him realizing he has to play the 5

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope was a miserable -8 (27 minutes, 0 field goals, 0 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 turnover).

― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:05 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

an actual vid of the Lakers GM saying God sent KCP to save the team😭😭 pic.twitter.com/kiys9sd25K

— LakeShowYo (@LakeShowYo) October 23, 2019

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http://i.imgur.com/jTOKMAT.png
via https://hoopshype.com/2019/10/22/nba-roster-continuity-offseason-changes/

i was not aware that over 75% of memphis' current roster is new to the team, yikes

I really like what the grizz are doing but when I watched them in the preseason it definitely had the vibe of a team that has just met

Btw I just learned that Ja Morant’s first name is Temetrius

playing against the pat bev-kawhi-montrezl trio is going to be no fun at all

Apparently Jokic is 7’0” in bare feet? I don’t believe it

he’s my big boy I believe it

he's large

good espn doubleheader tonite

kev thought youd want to know the joker was my #1 pick in ilh fantasy, he's my main man

josh richardson as the 5th best player in the 76ers starting lineup is just ridiculous.

Lots of jumpshots from Embiid, who is being guarded by Enes Kanter

embiid looks out of sorts as he tends to do 50% of the time

Love the Sixers, but Embiid is a big baby unless things are going his way.

Hubie pronounces Thybulle “thumble” and I think that’s what I’ll call him

Why didn’t Robert Williams play more last year

Embiid very much an in his feelings type of player

xp he didn't really know what he was doing most of the time. probably still doesn't but there aren't three guys in front of him anymore.

lol rough highlight for our beloved jelly k

𝙅𝙖𝙧𝙚𝙣 𝙫𝙨. 𝙖 𝙗𝙞𝙜 𝙢𝙖𝙣.

You love to see it 🦄@jarenjacksonjr | #GrindCity pic.twitter.com/aJSPECevaa

— Memphis Grizzlies (@memgrizz) October 24, 2019

Celtics look good but do not have the positive vibes I expected

i think they're going to figure it out but it might take a while.

basically we're going to need 20 games to determine if jayson tatum is going to be good this season

that kyrie season last year might leave a stink on the celtics for awhile

Terry Roziee getting benched game 1 of his massive new contract lollllll

In Charlotte, free agent signee Terry Rozier is sitting in favor of Devonte Graham, who has 21 points

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) October 24, 2019

and they got a W!

lmao borrego trolling jordan

their first round pick who no one liked went off for like 27 or something too

(this is likely to be the best night of their season)

undefeated baby

i know its hard to lose more than 60 games but i believe they can pull back from this rough start

Always fun to see if wiggins will get an assist, block or steal first each season. And how many games it will take for it to happen

demar looking AWFUL and dejounte looking POETIC in this first half against the new york knickerbockers

godawful celtics debut from kemba so far

godawful foul shooting from the Celtics. Almost as bad as the Sixers 3-point %.

Kyrie going bananas

holy shit wiggins with a -30, doubling up the next worst guy on his own team

getting pretty concerned about the celtics shot profile. same issues as last year. too many midrange jumpers and way too much weak shit at the rim.

wiggins is the worst starter in the league

lol wiggins 8-25 through regulation, welcome back homie xp lol

Andrew “Sunk Cost” Wiggins

I think I saw that the nets gave taurean prince 15m/yr

Perfect Kyrie debut all around

the final score is funny but going for 50/8/7 with *no turnovers* is why kyrie continues to seduce everyone

jokic with 3 fouls in the first 3 minutes, not good

i don't want to be controversial in here but he does not look like he is in shape

doughy is a shape

that's what i tell my overweight cat to boost his self-esteem

No timetable for Nurkic’s return?

They should just put Jokic back in. If he fouls out in 10 minutes maybe he’ll learn his lesson finally.

i'd be surprised if he's back before spring xp

matt otm

90% of the nuggets shots have been running floaters, wtf is going on

Encouraging defense from Jamal!

Denver’s depth is really something

Plumlee triple double watch: on

This flop and foul should be a Tech. CP3 is the worst. pic.twitter.com/7Iv5hWyrNK

— Mikey Peterson (@Mikeyvp) October 24, 2019

“I’m impressed with Wiggins tonight”— Paul Pierce

great defensive game from big honey

Jokic did exactly what he needed to do after that first half

Terry Stotts is from the Jerry Sloan school of never surrendering games I guess

pic.twitter.com/8M4levrOtb

— Out Of Context Nuggets (@OOCNuggets) October 24, 2019

Lmao wtf

Happy for the Suns to have a roster that makes sense for the first time since nash/amare

these three Drummond plays O__o

Andre Drummond's got handles this year pic.twitter.com/mNGNH5c4VW

— Jeff Siegel (@jgsiegel) October 24, 2019

When Drummond was in high school he seemed pretty skilled for his age, I was kind of surprised by how basic his game became

I played pickup with him a few times and that’s more of less exactly how he played

every NBAer has lot more moves/skills than they're willing to employ in a real game

Remember when Siakam did those offseason skill development videos and it seemed like BS. But then it turned out to be real af

Trae Young dayum dude. 16 points in the first q still a couple mins left. Just hit a heat check from like 33 ft

Luke Kennard is becoming a really good nba role player and I really never believed it could happen. Really maximizing his potential

yeah hes hoisting away with a ton of confidence and finds other ways to say on the court

trae is goin OFF

These are some wack unis in the rockets bucks game

i forgot that milwaukee has both lopez bros

Is there another lopez they could get? Tai Lopez

These are some wack unis in the rockets bucks game

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, October 24, 2019 5:08 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hate them both. but the whole rockets kit is worthless.

Great offensive foul call on that harden kick

25 game drug suspension for Ayton

Positive vibes in Phoenix short lived

fun drugs or PEDs?

masking agent, sounds like

wow that really sucks for the suns

russ and harden both on triple double watch

lol while shooting a combined 5-22 from the field, perfect lmao

taking ayton w/ absolutely no pause whatsoever was a bad decision at the time and looks even worse now

Giannis still good

Blue stripe on those bucks unis giving me real blue lives matter vibes. Are they still owned by the Kohls?

Neither team’s uni is more wack than Russ’ hair though

I’m having a hard time watching Harden at this point. How do you flop on every jumpshot

Looks like this is a good ersan season

giannis fouled out with 5 minutes left and the bucks didn't really miss a beat

rwb w/ 16 rebounds, who's his new addams

Does steve Kerr wear a wig

With teams like Wesley Matthews on them, you can’t lose

Why the lakers organization didn’t like Zubac will always be a mystery to me

let me be the first to say the clippers are good

well this is a nightmare start for the warriors

until d'angelo his 10 straight points, the heat check on the last shot was v nice

2018-19 had a nightmare finish for the dubs, so this was foreshadowed.

xp they're going to need a lot of that.

draymond forearm injury could be extremely bad news.

trez and lou must be absolutely salivating to get into this game

damn these warriors line ups... random as hell

Bob Myers sucks. Look at this crap roster. Like what were you doing all these years

Remember their victory lap over taking Jordan Bell

Where’s that euro dude that they stashed in the d league

What in gods name is russ doing with his hair

warriors season already looking cursed

Remember their victory lap over taking Jordan Bell

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, October 24, 2019 11:29 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

drafting in the late 20s is going to humble just about anyone. though i do think they completely lost their minds this offseason.

Barkley just slamming the warriors to Klay’s face lol

that was amazing lol

i think when you're constantly shedding picks for short term upgrades, picking no 29 every year when you do draft, and giving as many roster spots as possible to over the hill veterans your team is eventually gonna get hollowed out

the celtics got saved by the nets trade but every other title team in recent history looked egregiously worse post-peak

I mean they could have hit on SOMETHING. People make good second round picks all the time

that's why i think some part of it is about how much resources you have available in a development sense -- where is your coaching, playing time going etc. maybe it's not a coincidence that the heat post-lebron started unearthing multiple useful rotation players from the scrap heap per year

Plenty of teams draft guys and then send them to the d league and when they get called up they can play. The warriors just whiffed over and over and that’s on the GM

heat are still kinda climbing out of the post-big 3 hole xps

Heat have had some great FA signings but the reasons things are really turning around (seemingly) are Adebayo and Herro

the spurs are an exception... they def could've done better but this is mostly the norm

Waiters and JJ got suspended and are on their way out, Whiteside is gone etc xp

Jord Bob Myers has been GM for 7 years and has made one good draft pick. And it was in his first draft! There’s not many teams with a draft track record like that. Even David Kahn picked Bjelica.

the heat had a nice run of finding quality rotation players from little to nothing incl whiteside, tyler johnson, rodney mcgruder, derrick jones & richardson who was a second round pick... and they "player developed" james johnson, waiters & wayne ellington as vets. it only gets you so far when you don't have the top end talent and that's why they were a roughly .500 team over that period, but my original point is that it's much easier to find diamonds in the rough when you have many more resources to devote to sifting

kendrick nunn looks like he might be the next guy

Dude the golden state warriors have the resources to scout second rounders. Come on

Josh Richardson wasn’t going to be a bust in Oakland because the coaches were busy

the warriors were built in a very weird way from tanking for barnes, to offloading all that shit for iggy, to the cap spike coinciding w/ KD's free agency. i think it's hard to evaluate how good of a GM bob meyers is in a traditional sense. but we used to argue about whether pat riley is a good GM and i would say that there's different ways to be a good GM aside from just good drafting, so i'm not as willing to hold that against him given that they also won 3 titles.

the only players taken after jordan bell in the 2017 draft who ended up being better were dwayne bacon and thomas bryant. the best undrafted FA was antonio blakeney. \(o_O)/

Dude Monte Morris is wayyyyyyy better than Jordan bell. He’d be the 4th best player on the warriors right now!

It looks like Edmond Sumner is going to be good too. And who knows about Cancar. But Jordan Bell most definitely did not work out for the Warriors.

oh i missed monte down there, he's def better

he didn't work out, he also didn't get to develop many skills touching the ball never.5 times per game

The warriors have a motion offense...

Nuggets had Monte on a two way where he spent half his time in Sioux Falls and he managed to make it work

i mean he didn't seem very skilled, whatever. i'm not really taking up the case of bob meyers. i'm just saying that logically it makes sense to me that franchises doing everything they can to win a title every year for several years are going to be pretty unsuccessful at acquiring and developing young and/or scrap heap talent.

They went out of their way to spend millions on second rounders, they put the effort in and wanted to make good picks and they didn’t

ok yeah but drafting second round picks is really hard

He had seven years to find an udfa, hit on one second rounder, one first rounder. And his failure to do so likely led to catastrophic injuries that wrecked the dynasty! Just one Joe Ingles would have changed everything.

like since drafting capela, the best player young player daryl morey has found is montrezl, who did nothing on the rockets before being traded bcuz there was no playing time. otherwise it's..... danuel house?

and if the warriors had joe ingles right now people would maybe expect them to make the playoffs and lose in the first round instead of miss the playoffs altogether, so i'm not sure i'd say it would "change everything" exactly

Yeah Danuel House and Trez would be pretty good on the warriors rn

They wouldn’t have had to play Durant 40 mpg over 90 games

That nonsense in the playoffs when they basically never sat Durant led to his injury, it seems pretty obvious

yeah i don't think danuel house is changing the course of history at any point including the present

But Ingles would have.

When the heat had the triplets + bird man they had a good excuse because Riley literally had an empty roster when they signed them. Myers had 7 years to find one guy.

But they had no good players, klay and Durant played 40mpg in the playoffs and that was all she wrote

i don't think it's that simple. and the way the west shifted this season means that no draft pick or UDFA could bridge the gap between them and the LA teams

We all knew Durant was playing too minutes, Kerr kept shrugging off questions about it but we all knew. And then he got hurt.

One good player would have taken so much pressure off and they win the title most likely.

sure but the calculus that led to that wouldn't change simply due to the presence of one more slightly above average wing player

riley really redeemed himself by drafting winslow, richardson, bam, and herro w/ 4 straight picks

Joe Ingles is far far better than any player they had outside of the big 4. It would have made a huge difference.

Plays Durant’s positions too. It would have been great. James Johnson would have been pretty good too.

I’m not gonna crown Winslow after one game btw

ok but joe ingles was so good that he signed a 4/52 contract two years ago so idk how he would've been able to stay on the warriors

What are they not paying the luxury tax?

winslow was fully good last year once he started playing point regularly. and he's been 37%+ from three for 2 years. he's not some prodigy or something but the stanley johnson debate is over and he might be better than myles turner at this point. devin booker def still better but winslow has established himself in that draft class.

i think him and butler are gonna be a really good tandem, watch how many times winslow assists him in this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHS7_twYlc

Winslow is a good player and stats probably don’t convey how good he is but I still think they got a role player in the lotto there

Stan Johnson is a pretty amazing bust. The number 3 recruit in high school

def but he could be a really good role player. it wasn't the heist people were saying at the time, but when the year's lottery produces 7 good players and you get one of them i think that's a success unless there's some egregious misstep. maybe you could say passing on booker was one, we know they love kentucky players.

they also have winslow on a good contract fwiw

xp

stanley johnson will not be a really good role player

Looney was a pretty ok pick!

That was a really weird game to watch I had no idea who was who for the game. Gonna be a long season and Kerr is going to have to actually coach. Curry/dray and Dlo/dray pick n rolls all day leave the motion out. Gonna need trill to get back healthy quick like.

still laughing at the announcers praising Westbrook for taking over the game in the 4th as Houston got outscored by 15

Rockets documentary gonna be called 9 for 30

— Josh “Andrew Toney” Richardson (@_JimmyMcCormick) October 25, 2019

^ basketblolz

i havent watch a game yet me internet is down :|

i willing to entertain this tho

Mike D’Antoni on the Rockets’ pace with Russell Westbrook: “Six seconds or less, baby. We’re working on it.” Houston had 27 fast break points in the opener, matching their most in any game last season.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) October 25, 2019

clips look pretty good so far huh w/o pg and w kahwi adjusting to new team

it does seem like the biggest single thing westbrook could do for the rox was get them to play a little faster.

the clips do look good though i do think their starting lineup is odd since so much of the offense is going to be initiated by forwards. may just take some getting used to how it looks.

Imagine if the Warriors had a good GM like the Spurs and had taken Jaron Blossomgame, Nikola Milutinov, and Cady Lalanne instead of the chumps we got

I thought the rooks looked p good last night. good stuff from Paschal specifically. jordan poole is NOT shy, hopefully he can actually make shots. I thought steph, dlo and dray looked out of sorts more than anything.

here's what a real gm does with low picks

2019 NBA 2 49 Quinndary Weatherspoon Mississippi State
2019 NBA 1 29 Keldon Johnson Kentucky
2019 NBA 1 19 Luka Šamanić Olimpija Ljubljana
2018 NBA 1 18 Lonnie Walker University of Miami
2018 NBA 2 49 Chimezie Metu University of Southern California
2017 NBA 1 29 Derrick White University of Colorado (solid!)
2017 NBA 2 59 Jaron Blossomgame Clemson University
2016 NBA 1 29 Dejounte Murray University of Washington (very good pick)
2015 NBA 1 26 Nikola Milutinov Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)
2015 NBA 2 55 Cady Lalanne University of Massachusetts Amherst
2014 NBA 1 30 Kyle Anderson University of California, Los Angeles (the great Grizzlies bench player)
2014 NBA 2 58 Jordan McRae University of Tennessee

Honestly if we had Murray and White we might be contending this year! lol

def

r u being sarcastic rn i cannot tell

xp

ya imo u cant really fault the dubs gming record, late picks dont usually work out and they made some good decisions that werent the consensus at the time eg getting iggy, not trading klay for love, theyre kinda fd now but that was p much inevitable and theyve had a bunch of injuries, even getting dlo back for kd was good

lonnie walker might be good fwiw

need to see how he looks w/o rookie hair

lonnie is gonna be v good, him and dejounte are going to be one of the best two-way backcourts for a while imo

also tall luka is a potentially special player, but will need probably two years to know for sure

yeah i wldnt go that far

r u being sarcastic rn i cannot tell

it depends on if you're going to ban me again.

I think I'll take Klay and Curry over Murray and Walker but I guess we'll see

i would, too! but the spurs have drafted better in the late 1st rd than probably any team ever

wait i banned you???

yeah i wldnt go that far

― lag∞n, Friday, October 25, 2019 1:33 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

6'11" athletic and outside range, p unicornish

i was talking abt best two way back court but i will take a wait and see approach on tall euros too (im not matt a over here haha)

i think lonnie is gonna be awesome

my man

i was talking abt best two way back court but i will take a wait and see approach on tall euros too (im not matt a over here haha)

― lag∞n, Friday, October 25, 2019 1:39 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

u will c

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tracing draft pick history is really time-consuming but worth noting myers has only made 5 second-round picks, one of which was draymond green. he's also made five picks at either spots 28 or 30 and found looney (the rest of those are busts or too soon to tell).

the fact that they didn't make a pick at all in 2013, 2014, and 2017 definitely informs their current lack of depth. a lot of those picks went into getting iguodala. i don't think there's enough info to say if myers is better or worse at drafting and finding late-round depth than a lot of other guys.

Why do you guys think Looney is good

They got Jordan Bell in '17 and Nemanja Nedović in '13 via draft-day trade. That's as good as a draft choice to me.

i don't think he's particularly good but he's not playing his way out of the league like damian jones.

ah, thank you for filling that in xp. no hits on those picks though.

Looney's best attribute is that he stays within his limits and doesn't try to do things he can't do adequately well. This may not make him 'good' as an individual player, but it makes him 'good' in a team setting, where his job is well-defined and he does it.

He hit a three last night so y'all better watch out.

Looney's constant air of slightly wonky, stoic zen focus is incredibly endearing

I'd be surprised if that 3 was a play that was called for Looney. More like it developed from within Kerr's system and he was expected to take it under those circumstances, because another pass wouldn't have helped.

Looney turning into a rotation player was really unexpected after sitting his rookie year with the hip thing and then looking lost and fat after he came back. he worked into shape and he was very valuable vs the rockets the last two times they met in the playoffs and in the finals. getting a rotation player around the 30th pick is good imo.

looney and the warriors been talking up his three ball all summer (this happens with every big every summer i know)

I’m trying to understand how someone could post that spurs draft record and think it’s bad

talking up his three ball

respect comes with results

xp my man

Btw Milutinov seems to be pretty good, not sure when the spurs are gonna bring him over tho

after LMA is gone probably

or idk depends on if they keep poeltl after this year which i think they will

I’m trying to understand how someone could post that spurs draft record and think it’s bad

It was pretty easy man, you just cut and paste

Drafting true superstars outside the lottery picks is not impossible, but it is not a skill one can acquire. when it happens it's pure luck. Once you get outside of the 'unicorn' stratum of NBA players, the separation between starting rotation players and bench players gets a lot narrower and even the difference between training camp players and contract players is mighty slim. When you compare how well teams did using their below-20 picks over the past seven or eight years, then you're comparing very marginal differences. In my estimation, they are all nearly equally bad and good, except for a few picks more ascribable to luck than the skill of the drafting team.

With the Spurs, I'd say most of their success is in coaching, player development and predicting how a player's skills and temperament will merge with the whole team's concept of play. Many of their best moves have been to acquire players who've been in the league a while already, but poorly utilized by or poorly fit with their old team.

gsw have curry, klay, russell and dray on contract through to 2022 and still own their 2021 and 2022 first round picks. thats a pretty good situation for a superteam with 3 rings.

sure theyll suck this season but thats to be expected for a capped out team with its second best player injured

RJ Barrett has a strange combo of head and neck

he was p good against the spurs i thought! he was getting to the rim and getting good looks.

Yeah after a lot of hand wringing in the preseason he looks pretty darn good

Dennis Smith Jr in a bad place career-wise rn

dejounte absolutely ate him alive. the knicks calmed down once elfrid peyton entered the game.

Towns looks like he’s winning the scoring title

The hornets dance team are called “the honey bees?!?”

Watching the nuggets with an antenna. They still don’t have a local cable tv arrangement but bought time for the home opener on a local channel. Would like this to end in general.

league pass is free this week man

hassan whiteside is looking pretty good in a blazers uniform

Looks like the jazz downgraded their pg shooting from Rubio to Conley

conley’s been so bad

Timberwolves on pace for an undefeated season

seems likely at this point

league pass is free this week man

I guess I’m supposed to use a VPN or whatever

The bucks should trade for Malik Beasley imo.

who do the nuggets get

korver was a good pick up for them since they’re not asking him to do a single thing besides make threes

the ultimate question with them is whether bledsoe is gonna play up to what they’re paying him... he’s taking as many shots as guys they’re paying far less money

trae continuing to do some stuff

trae is good

kemba doing whatever he wants v ny knicks

msg crowd chanting we want tacko lmao

ahh they put him in

he got a dunk!

he got two dunks lol

Apparently he can do the best shot in basketball with ease

its a great shot for him

Sacramento seems worse than last season.

Harden 2/18 from three ha

Sacramento seems worse than last season.

The shape of the season to come is not yet discernible at this stage. But, yeah, Sacramento regressing this season would not be surprising at all.

Overreacting to the first three games of an eighty two game season is the what it’s all about

Ingram kinda beasting: 35/15/5

if sacto had one random good season while the celtics owned their draft pick then go back to sucking well ef that imo

the ultimate question with them is whether bledsoe is gonna play up to what they’re paying him... he’s taking as many shots as guys they’re paying far less money

― J0rdan S., Saturday, October 26, 2019 8:18 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

when u go ahead and look at the bucks roster u gotta be thinking that maybe giannis wont be playing there for that much longer

Okay, hear us out... pic.twitter.com/6zwasIIniE

— Sacramento Kings (@SacramentoKings) October 27, 2019

who do the nuggets get

suns cookin

I’m a fan of this trae young guy

kawhi is on the bench for some reason?

Maybe that Denver win last night wasn't that bad?

— Skippyjon Jones (@AndyGlockner) October 27, 2019

Luke Walton is bad. Joerger got hosed.

Oh boy

The Warriors' center rotation endured another blow today, as Kevon Looney will miss the next two games — and likely longer — with a "neuropathic condition" that has affected his right hamstring. https://t.co/jYlc94vFvV

— Connor Letourneau (@Con_Chron) October 27, 2019

when u go ahead and look at the bucks roster u gotta be thinking that maybe giannis wont be playing there for that much longer

― lag∞n, Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:20 PM (yesterday)

he's def already hinted at it, that said every team in the east is pretty flawed. i think i'd still take giannis + middleton over the sixers out of the east since at least those 2 can get/make shots

dennis smith jr. pic.twitter.com/kY4U7VPgzg

— trey (@TreyfromNY) October 27, 2019

The bucks roster makes a lot of sense and I think they’re probably gonna make the finals but yeah it would be nice to have a promising 4/5 on the team under 30

youd like to have yr second best player be better than middleton

I’m a Middleton stan but yeah. It also seems like last year’s playoffs broke Bledsoe

Choosing bled over brogdon will be the downfall of The Bucks