HOOPS STATS in the new era

VJ edgecombe 34 pts on 13/16 shooting. third most points in an NBA debut all-time, the most since wilt chamberlain in 1959

wemby: 1 million dunks (nba record)

Rip old stats thread

Wemby 40-15 0 tos first time since wilt or one of those old bigs

luke kornet 3 fouls, one of them flagrant, in his first 4
minutes on the court with a new team. wondering if anyone's ever topped that.

SGA 55-8-5-2-1, 23 of those points at the line

Thunder 1st team ever to open the season with b2b 2OT games

I was wondering how often any teams has played b2b multiple OT games...Spurs somehow played two triple OT games in a row in Dec 2014, which was the only time that happened since the Baltimore Bullets of 1951

aaron gordon 7/7 from three in the first half, tying the all time record for most 3s in the first half without a miss

jokic 33-15-16-3

Tonight was Nikola Jokic’s 78th career game leading BOTH teams in points, rebounds and assists.

That’s the most such games by any player since the 1976 NBA-ABA merger, 10 more than the next closest player (LeBron James - 68).

crazy

Timberwolves Defensive ratings stats on/off for Gobert are crazy, either second best in the league or so far beyond the worst you need the hubble telescope to see it

With Gobert (247 min): 118.1 ORTG, 109.4 DRTG, 8.7 net rating
Without Gobert (107 mins): 120.1 ORTG, 144.2 DRTG, -24.2 net rating

144.2 is unfathomable. and that sample size isn’t that small

it's been interesting, watching Rudy Gobert 100x more than I ever would have in a lifetime. He's a singularly weird and great and terrible and frustrating player. And almost everything he really does well are the types of things that are not suited to be appreciated in the social media highlights era, and everything he's terrible at sticks out like a sore thumb.

like a combination of a defensive savant and a guy that seems like he's seeing a basketball for the first time in his life.

sometimes the way he drops an easy pass as if he has two canoe paddles for hands it's like...i don't even know

i think ive said this before but best seats i ever had at a game was like 8th row and suns were playing jazz. seeing gobert at like eye level was so shocking. on tv he looks like a normal skinny tall nba player but he would barely be bending over and his hands we're like at his shins, shoulders way more broad than it seems, then he'd put his arms out wide and i have no idea how anyone completes a pass or gets a shot off in his vicinity. ive seen shaq with pretty good seats, and it was even more alien than that somehow. but i do remember how clunky he was on offense, just no feel or touch. i still think the most unlikely shot in nba history is that game 7 shot clock running down fadeaway to help put the nuggets away a couple years back.

zach lowe, nate duncan et al have been noting that it looks like he’s slowing down in terms of being able to move his feet and contest shots at the rim

yeah I mean he's at the age where he's not going to get better

he also had that one bizarre outburst against the Lakers in the playoffs last year where he scored 27 points and looked incredible on offense for one day

that was wild

i think ive said this before but best seats i ever had at a game was like 8th row and suns were playing jazz. seeing gobert at like eye level was so shocking. on tv he looks like a normal skinny tall nba player but he would barely be bending over and his hands we're like at his shins, shoulders way more broad than it seems, then he'd put his arms out wide and i have no idea how anyone completes a pass or gets a shot off in his vicinity. ive seen shaq with pretty good seats, and it was even more alien than that somehow. but i do remember how clunky he was on offense, just no feel or touch. i still think the most unlikely shot in nba history is that game 7 shot clock running down fadeaway to help put the nuggets away a couple years back.

― Spottie, Friday, November 7, 2025 1:07 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this last part was unnecessary and needed to come with a trigger warning

lol im sure like the lebron game 7 block for me, i just have to avert my ears/eyes when it gets shown or talked about

luckily rudy gobert highlights dont get much burn

Victor Nonga Wembanyama-de Fautereau-Vassel tonight:
38 pts (including 6-9 from 3, 10-10 from the line), 12 rebs, 5 asts, 5 blocks, 1 stl (as a treat)

also killed nik vucevic in public and no police arrived on the scene, very hard to do

grayson allen 42-2-4-3 in 28 minutes (10 3s)

jokic was 16/19 from the field tonight for 35 points, 15/17 from 2 point range. (at least one of those misses was a missed tip-in/OREB.)

he’s now shooting .786 from 2 point range for the season

Victor Nonga Wembanyama-de Fautereau-Vassel tonight:
38 pts (including 6-9 from 3, 10-10 from the line), 12 rebs, 5 asts, 5 blocks, 1 stl (as a treat)

also killed nik vucevic in public and no police arrived on the scene, very hard to do

I paid 500 to sit on the 4th row and witness this. Worth every penny. Sorry Vuc! RIP.

hell yeah

money well spent

Jokic so far in November:

- 32.0 PPG
- 12.0 RPG
- 12.0 APG
- 73/48/85 splits
- 81% true shooting
- +72 plus-minus
- 5-0 record

He’s the first player in NBA history to average a 30-point triple double on 80% TS over a 5+ game span

comical numbers per usual. also good timing for he and murray/gordon to be so hot while his bandmates (braun, cam) try to remember how to shoot again

dece

what is the deal with cam johnson, he has to be injured right? must admit i haven't watched much of him since he went to the nets but even the suns version was far superior to this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G5nYQmOW0AAbo8B?format=png&name=medium

speaking of curry 46-5-5-2 on back end of road b2b against a top 5 defense

8/9 from 2 with 16 FTAs vs a wemby defense is impressive

what is the deal with cam johnson, he has to be injured right? must admit i haven't watched much of him since he went to the nets but even the suns version was far superior to this

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, November 13, 2025 6:39 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

feel like he's getting acclimated to what they need him to do. in a shooting slump too, cant imagine it will hold much longer

cam left the game in the first quarter last night with some shoulder issue. not sure if that's been a thing that's been bothering him the whole time or not. he's missed a bunch of open looks and it doesn't really make sense

even tho he was a role player for the suns i feel like there has to be some adjustment involved when moving from "you're one of the top scorers on a horrible team and you can do whatever you want out there and literally nobody cares" to coming into a system like denver's w/ an established hierarchy and shots for role players coming in distinct ways, having actual responsibility, having to play serious basketball etc

he had decent role on those good suns teams

check the running hook shot at 1:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNcAOjK8gOQ

most skilled baller ever

also the b2b deep bankers at 3:10 why not

he was insane last night, i was hoppin mad

a 31-18-14 triple double w/ 7 steals for jalen johnson in utah tonight, sheesh

hawks doing kinda okay without trae, huh

incredible line

He’s looking like vintage bron out there with his ability to run a break and either plow right through you or drop a sweet dime. Praying for his health

Okongwu was 8 for 14 (!!!!!) from three in that game as well

wtf

a 31-18-14 triple double w/ 7 steals for jalen johnson in utah tonight, sheesh

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 13, 2025 11:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

these were all career highs, crazy

wonder if thats happened before for a non rookie starter to set career highs in 4 categories

yeah was wondering the same i bet no guy whos gotten starters minutes for 100 games like johnson has ever done it before

or even 50 games

speaking of curry 46-5-5-2 on back end of road b2b against a top 5 defense

2 nights later vs the same team
49-4-2-2

crazy old man

he carried them last night, there really wasnt much of an offensive scheme other than let steph cook, and it worked!

LeBron James’s season debut added a few new names to his all-time list of teammates, so here’s the updated Top 10 for the most teammates played with in league history (per @bball_ref):

Jeff Green - 271 teammates
Vince Carter - 261
Trevor Ariza - 260
Garrett Temple - 259
Chris Paul - 248
JaVale McGee - 245
LeBron James - 245
DeAndre Jordan - 242
Ish Smith - 239
Juwan Howard - 236

I have barely ever thought about Garrett Temple, didn’t realize he’s in his 16th season

must be an exceptional teammate

Steph Noh stephnoh.bsky.social‬

Teams with less than five wins at this point of the season:

2026: 9
2025: 5
2024: 6
2023: 3
2022: 5
2021: 3
2020: 4

Ryan Bernardoni‬ dangercart.bsky.social‬

The league set the record for most great+terrible teams to start last season and is breaking it again this year.

The Era of Parity might apply to transience of title equity season-to-season but not "anyone can beat anyone" in season.

seems like a natural effect of years and years at this point of the bball cognoscenti hammering on the (not incorrect) conventional wisdom that the middle is the worst place to be in the nba and that if you’re not a contender you should be bottoming out. lesson being learned that leveling out the lottery doesn’t really make much difference bc even if the rewards of tanking are highly diluted, they still exceed the rewards of being mediocre to run of the mill sorta bad but not egregious

that and going far into the lux tax has gotten more expensive so only really makes sense if youre a true contender

yeah that’s a big factor

the irony with this year is that so many more teams were supposedly trying to win. i’m thinking that if that trend continues we can expect a few disaster teams each year due to injuries or just roster construction fails.

clippers to thread

and mavs and grizz

lol mavs good luck to mavs

btw only two teams over the 2nd apron this year cavs and knicks and the knicks are barely over so one would think theyll be under by the end of the year so really only one team over the cavs their plan is working

Maxey with 54pts/5reb/9ast/3stl/3blk in 46(!) minutes on the second night of a b2b.

god hes been unreal this year

for sure, why are they playing him so many minutes tho

I just read he's leading the league in mpg by 3 minutes. They don't have anyone else that can really do anything. PG had a really good game so maybe that will help if he can stay healthy.

he is indeed, at 40.7(!) and guess who's #2... VJ Edgecombe

Assume this will tail off at some point but i wonder when the last time someone avged 40 mpg was. Iverson?

just checked, it's monta ellis, did it consec yrs in 09-10 and 10-11 on the dubs. curry's 1st 2 yrs... the league done changed a bit since then

Not good! I assume a rookie is going to hit a major wall playing those minutes.

Iverson played so many minutes. Didn't LeBron average of ton of minutes on those pre-Heat Cleveland teams?

xps

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm/actual

EPM for the season is up

nuggets started some guy named spencer jones tonight — he played 24 mins, shot 0-2 from the field, 0-1 from three, committed 5 fouls, and was a -18

more like spencer nones

he is a tire fire on offense but has a lot of energy and is a really good wing defender. (basically peyton watson 3 years ago.) he fouls way too much though, including on a derozan jumper in crunch time where a stop would have given them a chance to tie. m def 10th man abilities at this point but with 2 starters out they are gonna have to be creative

Teams With The Worst Net Rating In The Clutch For The 2025-26 NBA Regular Season :

1. Washington Wizards — -50.4
2. Charlotte Hornets — -45.7
3. Denver Nuggets — -41.4
4. Boston Celtics — -31.6
5. Brooklyn Nets — -24.9
6. New Orleans Pelicans — -17.1
7. Memphis Grizzlies — -16.5
8. New York Knicks — -14.6
9. Miami Heat — -12.6
10. Milwaukee Bucks — -3.3

dont really want to be parked up there with all those bad teams

gabe vincent +18 in 17 min with 0-0-0 and 1 TO

oops, +17 in 18 min

love those good luck charm stat lines

‪KeithSmithNBA‬ keithsmithnba.bsky.social‬

At about the quarter-pole of the season, the Thunder lead the NBA in Defensive Rating at 104.9.

The Heat are in second place at 111.5.

That 6.6-point spread between Oklahoma City and Miami is wider than the difference between the second-place Heat and the 23rd-place Trail Blazers (118.0)

Just saw NAWs stats for the year:

20/3/4/1/1 on 46/38/86 splits

Had no idea he was playing so well

the kings basically have a g league big man rotation w/ sabonis hurt however zach edey put up 32 and 17 w/ 5 blocks on 16-20 shooting last night, pretty hard to be more dominant around the rim in an nba game than that

just watched the highlights he is very tall

VJ edgecomb averaging 13.8 ppg since opening night everyone stay woke out there

pretty good hes going to be an excellent player, almost guaranteed to be a quality starter good chance to be a lot more

nbacentral

Crazy stat: Mitchell Robinson is currently shooting 17.6% from the free-throw line this season

The lowest single-season free-throw percentage in NBA history was set by Ben Wallace in 2001, when he shot 33.6%.

lol how is that even possible

3-17 on the season, not sure it's an exaggeration to say the knicks could pull a random guy out of the stands and put him at the line in front of 20k people and perhaps get a better performance

heard windy say on the hoop pod that last night was the first time in lebron's career that he finished a game w/o a rebound, block, or steal

was literally just listening to that part. wild

i dont think he scored in the paint either. i lebron-watched most of that game and it was really weird! the whole not coming back to the bench thing so he could chum it up with randoms on the suns bench when JJ is trying to call him over. not even attempting to make moves. had that one where he caught it directly under the hoop and decided to ben simmons kick it out for a three when he couldve easily dunked. looked like a farewell tour game for sure.

Jamal Murray's 52-point game puts the Nuggets into rare company pic.twitter.com/LfTLRpLTk8

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) December 4, 2025

52 on 19-25 from the field and 10-11 from three is absurd

crazy they did it so early in the season

derik queen with the triple double tonight, baby jokic in the house

+4 blocks

seasons not over yet but still pretty good

Keerthika Uthayakumar‬ keerthikau.bsky.social‬

Fun fact: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is averaging 32.8 points on 68.6% true shooting, the highest TS% in a 30 PPG season in NBA history.

He's committing 1.7 turnovers, the fewest in a 30 PPG season since turnovers were tracked fully in 1983-84.

flagg 42-7-6 most points ever by an 18 year old

against the jazz, too, wite on wite violence

How much do you think Ainge wants Cooper on his team. Like reoccurring dream level?

balls didnt bounce his way, sad

previous record was 37 by lebron btw

flaggs was an ot game but he had 40 in regulation

the mavs getting the #1 after gifting luka to the lakers is really an all time the nba is rigged moment.

yeah awful stuff

Andre Drummond is shooting 41.2% from 3 on 1.4 attempts per game.

maybe more impressive is that he's nearly doubled his ft% over his career. shot .355 in his first all-star season (2015-16), now up to .650 this season

Pretty interesting career. Feels like I’ve never seen him in a playoff game

good reason for that, hes been in the postseason 4 times, and 3 of them were sweeps. (the 4th? a 5 game 1st rd loss with the lakers)

Oof

He should be able to keep that first round exit streak going this year.

kawhi had 55 tonight, by far his career high

he was also 16/17 from the line, which lowered his season FT% to 97.6% (123/126)

I've always wondered how it is that more guys like curry or nash or korver didn't just randomly get hot one year and shoot >>95% from the line, just one of those weird invisible barriers that seems like it's on the border of human possibility in a game setting. the record is 98% from jose calderon who went 151/154 in 2009, but no other qualifier has broken 96%

23/25/10 for scottie barnes today, only other guy who's put up 20/25/10 in the last 40 years is jokic

16 of those were offensive, which is tied for 2nd all time. pretty wild

It was very frustrating to watch

derrick white 7 blocks vs the jazz tonight tied the record for a guard

one of the greatest shot-blocking guards ive ever seen, up there with d wade and danny green

luka shooting 32% from 3 on 11(!) attempts a game, some signs of not giving a shit, which considering the lakers roster isnt totally unfair

lakers getting luka is some real monkey's paw shit

lakers fan: 'i wish for one of the best players in the nba to magically arrive in our lap (like always)'

*cue supercut of luka petulantly whining to the refs while the opponents get an easy fastbreak layup*

all those offseason dreams of a new leaf turned like tears in the rain

no u dont understand, look at his new training regimen, hes serious this time

i tip my cap to him for losing weight and then proceeding to play basketball slightly worse than he has before

in dallas they worshipped him as the heir to dirk, now hes just some guy in la, sad

and he didnt want to go there he was happy being the new dirk

the lakers without reaves have to have one of the worst rosters in the NBA, and in particular it's hideously constructed around luka specifically. we know from dallas that luka is good at playing with 3 point shooters, rim runners, and secondary ball handlers. well, the lakers last night played the following guys: lebron, jake laravia, smart, ayton (starters) + vanderbilt, jaxson hayes, and nick smith jr. the best shooter is laravia? the best rim runner is hayes? the best secondary ball handler is old lebron? it's horrific and a massive downgrade from dallas

too bad reaves cant defend at all because otherwise hes a great fit with luka

prob a better fit than kyrie or brunson in the #2 spot because hes better off ball, tho prob not actually better better since theyre better players, but tbf he is having an insane season currently

kyrie and brunson are bad defenders too and they worked but its still just not ideal to have two bad defenders in the mix

with the right mix of supporting players it can at least get you to the finals, tho i'm not sure i'd say reaves is better than kyrie. the thing w/ the lakers is that the new ownership group *should* make them a lot better but for the foreseeable future they're stuck in this cockamamie scheme where jeanie buss is still running the team

meant to post the other day that the highlights of kawhi scoring 55 in essentially three quarters are amazing. he scores like four points at the rim, otherwise it's pure midrange hooping, breaking dudes down and then pulling up with metronomic jumper form, and also shooting three pointers like steph. he shot 12-16 on twos in this game while making, by my count, two shots at the rim the entire night while going 16-17 from the line, he was legitimately treating an NBA game like pop a shot. at one point the clippers' announcer says that kawhi "is one with the basketball gods tonight" and it would be hard to argue otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpSZ09YuVqk

but for the foreseeable future they're stuck in this cockamamie scheme where jeanie buss is still running the team

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, January 2, 2026 2:21 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

gonna assume this is just some nonsense and the new owner will do as he pleases but who knows

yea that tends to be what happens cf the cuban situation

kawhi gotta have the most workmanlike 55 in the history of the league there

no, it's not the same. sam amick reported that jeanie is written into the sale agreement as governor of the team for the next five years. now, whether they um, empower her to change things... i guess we'll see but the cuban thing was not written into the sale agreement of the team and was not real and thus he got pushed out instantaneously. they have talked about this on the hoop collective podcast

Per a team source, Buss’ agreement with Walter and the NBA stipulates that she’ll remain the team’s governor for at least the next five seasons.

new guy can just appoint someone super governor

in all seriousness if hes signing the checks he untimely he can do as he pleases as to whether he wants to have a big fight over it or if she wants to have a big fight over it or what there agreement really is who knows

totally speculation but letting her be the figurehead go to the league meetings and so forth while he incrementally builds basketball operations out in his vision would make a lot of sense as far as doing a gradual handover, one thing that could tell us which was the wind is blowing is pelinkas status does he stay is someone installed over him etc

my point is just that there is some sort of awkward/messy/abnormal transfer of power of the organization happening that is going to coincide with, at the very least, one crucial offseason when it comes to building out the roster around luka, and could last as long as the rest of his contract there, which is effectively this season and the two after that. or, we take the lakers at their word, and this same front office is going to be running the team for the rest of luka's prime

yeah true

maybe they can just get pelinka to scam them some more players, he should be kept on for scamming purposes

i agree w/ you about pelinka. but he signed a contract extension in april, so unless this season just completely collapses, like not making the play in or something, i'd have to believe that it's still gonna be this jeanie/pelinka group running things this offseason

yeah prob unless i guess there is some understanding otherwise with the new guy, must say that jeanie firing her brothers on day one was incredible stuff, the league will miss the buss family when theyre gone last of a dying breed

cuban made himself the face of the mavs in a way that was unusual, but he only owned the team for like 20 years. the buss family and the lakers are a much different thing. i could definitely envision a scenario where jeanie was like "we will only sell the team if i can run it for five more years" and mark walter decided that the lakers were such a valuable property that he would go along w/ it even under those terms. i mean, that's the subtext of jeanie's governance being written into the agreement, imo. you're right obviously that we'll see whether he decides to effectively shank her or whatever two years in if the team stinks

i personally would not pay ten billion dollars for a toy i was not allowed to play with for five years but then again i dont have ten billion dollars i only have nine

if im jeanie do i really need to be running day to day operations or do i just want to go to the office sometimes hang around the lakers and fire my brothers

Keerthika Uthayakumar‬ keerthikau.bsky.social‬

Fun fact: 421 NBA teams have gone 20-11 or better in their first 31 games over the past 30 seasons.

This season’s 20-11 Lakers are the ONLY team on that list to post a negative net rating (-0.6) in those 31 games.

you really shouldn't be employed by an nba GM if you've gone into the season with deandre ayton and jaxson hayes as your centers. immediate disqualification

it seems like his plan was to scam the mavs out of luka, wait lebron out, and then just figure the rest out later

i do think the unplanned acquisition of luka for AD probably threw a wrench in their roster-building plans but you can't excuse the overall number of bad players in their rotation.

jaylen brown 50pts on 26 shots

wasnt just going nuts from 3 or the line either

guarded kawhi too

Automatic @automaticnba
4 minute scoring droughts this season:

15 — GSW
14 —
13 —
12 — IND
11 — ATL, SAC
10 — UTA
9 —
8 — NOP, ORL, PHX
7 — CLE, DET, LAC, MIL, NYK, PHI, TOR
6 — CHA, CHI, DEN, MIA, POR, WAS
5 — HOU, LAL, OKC
4 — MEM, SAS
3 — BOS, DAL
2 — BKN, MIN