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is AI really going to DETROIT today?!?

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 3 November 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

oh damn

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Monday, 3 November 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

Man, Billups AND McDyess? That seems like a risky trade for Detroit. AI isn't really AI anymore.

polyphonic, Monday, 3 November 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

Also, I wonder how Dice feels about going to Denver for the third time.

polyphonic, Monday, 3 November 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

shawn marion gets fit for a mask after breaking his nose

eman, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

HOLY SHIT CRAZY TRADE 1ST WEEK OF THE SEASON YEEHAW!

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

chauncey :( ;_;

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago)

both guy epitomized their respective teams culture now headed to v diff places - im not sure what to make of this - chauncey will be good for denver w/his D steadiness and not needing tons shots - im struggling to imagine how iverson fits in detroit - tho having a dude who can get to the hole will def help their shooters - they didnt really solve their whole three starting quality backcourt players for two jobs problem tho

btw <3 a.i. n billups - sweet dudes all around

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

poly, dice is not happy and may opt to retire. that is just SAD.

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

Dice should at least see if the Nuggets flip him elsehwere. I understand that he's like an ultra-sensitive nice dude but he could do a lot of good on a strong playoff team.

What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

guys i am getting a little misty over this :(

highly theoretical, of course. (tehresa), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

yah its def the end of an era when detroits movin chauncey in a straight salary dump - keep in mind dumars assembled that team from scrap tho - he can do it again

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

I guess AI is in his final year, and next year there are a bunch of awesome free agents out there. Very smart move by Dumars.

polyphonic, Monday, 3 November 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

how much longer does sheed have

eman, Monday, 3 November 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

this is his last year too

excellent reference page http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago)

btw the year after next is when all the sweet free agents supposedly become available - even tho all of them will prob resign w/their current teams cause it pays so much better

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

hollinger loves chauncey in denver http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=IversonTrade-Nuggets-081103

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

btw the year after next is when all the sweet free agents supposedly become available - even tho all of them will prob resign w/their current teams cause it pays so much better

― 888 (ice crӕm), Monday, November 3, 2008 5:12 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

does D’Antoni know that? the Garden is being dismantled in hopes that lebron is coming to resurrect that mess in 2010.

carne asada, Monday, 3 November 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

btw the year after next is when all the sweet free agents supposedly become available - even tho all of them will prob resign w/their current teams cause it pays so much better

I would rather make less in order to live in a city that isn't Cleveland (for example).

polyphonic, Monday, 3 November 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago)

because teams can sign their own free agents to more money - and because any max deal is based on a raise over what a player was making in his previous contract - if youre a player that has a couple of max contracts left in his career it can add up to a $50m+ difference between playing for yr current team and going to a nicer place

lebron maybe will goto new york cause he can supposedly bridge that gap w/increased endorsements - but it unlikely lebron et al ever go to detroit

aaand any team unless they draft perfectly and manage to sign a few good players for way under market value will have to basically be in rebuilding mode to afford any of these max contract type guys - who wants to go to a rebuilding team - thats the catch 22 w/clearing cap space

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

hollinger loves chauncey in denver http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=IversonTrade-Nuggets-081103

― 888 (ice crӕm), Monday, November 3, 2008 5:25 PM

i hopes he's right on the melo point, i'd really like to see that

eman, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

i like this trade a lot for detroit

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

i think they realized they've been lapped by the cavs and the celts and maybe even orlando at this point so why not try to shake things up with a maverick move. i could see this really igniting them.

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 01:52 (sixteen years ago)

who's gonna guard ppl b/w rip and AI though

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

min and san antonio game is redic

carne asada, Thursday, 6 November 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

jordan, mavericks lose. have you not been paying attn???

;n_n; (tehresa), Thursday, 6 November 2008 04:04 (sixteen years ago)

i don't need no sarah palin shit fucking up my team!

;n_n; (tehresa), Thursday, 6 November 2008 04:04 (sixteen years ago)

links to all nba game streams
http://www.ppnba.com/english.html

carne asada, Thursday, 6 November 2008 04:09 (sixteen years ago)

why billups not play last nite ?

CONGRATULATIONS USA! (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 12:18 (sixteen years ago)

Carmelo Honors Woodrow Wilson

November 6, 2008 10:06 AM

Posted by Kevin Arnovitz

Carmelo Anthony wanted to honor President-Elect Barack Obama during last night's game against Golden State:

At the Nuggets' shootaround, there was a post-election buzz. Carmelo Anthony smiled and said, "I'm going to try to score 44 tonight," in honor of president-elect Barack Obama, who was elected Tuesday as America's 44th president.

Noble intention, to be sure. And an auspicious matchup if you want to go for 44 -- Golden State ranks 8th in pace.

Unfortnuately, Anthony finished with only 28 points on 13-30 shooting from the field. In doing so, Anthony pays homage to the nation's 28th President, Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ).

✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago)

carne does that work on mac? it looks like you have to install something but its an .exe

eman, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

even if it doesnt end up working id just like to say: i love the internet

http://i37.tinypic.com/wtd0fd.jpg

✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.skycn.com/img/logo.gif

eman, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

carne does that work on mac? it looks like you have to install something but its an .exe

some of them do. the ones on justinTV work and a couple other ones. i have not loaded any of the ones with plug-ins

carne asada, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

i think the trick is to go to the actual site that is streaming.
http://i35.tinypic.com/35jmh3m.jpg

carne asada, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.ppnba.com/images/smile.gif

eman, Thursday, 6 November 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?page=jchill-081106

"Some people say 'groundbreaker.' Some say 'trailblazer.' I say I'm the test dummy. I'm the guy who's gonna test it out for everyone else."

eman, Friday, 7 November 2008 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

aw good dude :)

✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Friday, 7 November 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

watch the vid where he takes the interviewer to a greek supermarket XD

eman, Friday, 7 November 2008 05:02 (sixteen years ago)

carne does that work on mac? it looks like you have to install something but its an .exe

leeee sent me this a week or so ago - no mac :(

;n_n; (tehresa), Friday, 7 November 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1107/nba_g_iverson_412.jpg

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

the end of that rockets/blazers game was insane

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago)

justin.tv i <3 u

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 03:46 (sixteen years ago)

repost justin.tv chat lols here:

10:43 sunline: go FU_CK YORSELF up the *** with a DILDO how the spelling on that celticsrule1965
10:43 celticsrule1965: sunline u seem angry

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 03:47 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.justin.tv/jose3030

Channel Info
Basketball , Football and assorted stuffs, sons.

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

celticsrule1965 otm

✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Saturday, 8 November 2008 09:10 (sixteen years ago)

Gotta say, AI looks great in the Pistons uni.

polyphonic, Saturday, 8 November 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

melo cut his braids off!

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

"Sports have always been a central part of my life," Obama told SI.com before being elected president. "Growing up, I learned about competition and teamwork on the basketball court, and these days I try to get in a pickup game whenever I can.

"If I'm fortunate enough to move into the White House, I'd consider putting in a basketball court," he added.

eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

the clips somehow manage to look and feel exactly the same w/ baron davis, w/ elton, w/o elton, whatever. they just have the stink, god lov3e em. watching them over the course of a year you feel like you're watching the same game over and over, it's just fucking weird is what it is.

que(ef) (tremendoid), Sunday, 9 November 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

i mean the lakers are hateable and loveable (no, really), win big and lose big, i guess part of that is media narrativebut i've been watching both for 15+ years and the clips live in a hellish timeloop quite apart from just sucking most of the time

que(ef) (tremendoid), Sunday, 9 November 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

justin.tv i <3 u

― eman, Friday, November 7, 2008 10:46 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OTM! rocket vs lakers right now

carne asada, Monday, 10 November 2008 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

ladies and gents your remaining undefeated teams at 5-0: lakers and ATLANTA HAWKS

huh?

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

i mean it's not far in but the hawks have beaten orlando (no joke) philly (preseason darlings of the mark stein types) HORNETS (whaaa) and the toronto boshes

plus okc chunder

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

"If I'm fortunate enough to move into the White House, I'd consider putting in a basketball court," he added.

<3

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

but man oh man did the lakers manhandle the rockets, they looked so good and the rockets weren't even all that bad.

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

ladies and gents your remaining undefeated teams at 5-0: lakers and ATLANTA HAWKS

huh?

― schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, November 10, 2008 12:19 PM

the hawks did take our '08 champs to 7 games in the playoffs though

eman, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

mcdyess back 2 pistons?

eman, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

isnt dyess obsessed w/getting a ring - if so why fuck w/the pistons - go celtics dude!

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

news flash news flash smush parker was drafted...by the rio grande valley vipers (wtf) of the D LEAGUE

lol d league draft

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.dubdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/smush_parker.jpg

^^^smushcalade

carne asada, Monday, 10 November 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

BRINGING THE HEAT

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

the hawks are real fucking good

mario williams even made a jumper last night

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

um marvin williams

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ justin.tv dude checking out the other games at halftime of the celtics game

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

wow @ 17 pt comeback

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

damn durant did the damn thing tonight

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

kevin durant is going to score a shitload of points this year

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

calderon has a 6-1 ast/to ratio !

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

the east ( i originally typed afc lol) has the most compelling teams/storylines this year by far:

- the celts going for two in a row
- the end of the world as we know it in detroit, with AI conducting the orchestra as the ship goes down
- lebron turning the nba into a man vs. boys game
- the hawks emerging as a power we can all get behind (eastern warriors if w/o a first round flameout ceiling)
- DWIGHT HOWARD
- d' antoni & the knicks
- danny granger: 2nd leading scorer in the nba
- lol the sixers actually suck (this would be way more fun if the phils hadn't just won the series)

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

yow celtics D still scary!

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

- the raptors being really awesome and chris bosh being a top 5 player in the league

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

meanwhile the west has oj mayo, the blazers, chris paul, the lakers and a bunch of old ppl

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

east:

- derrick f. rose

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago)

sixers will def NOT suck this year tho

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago)

yeah maybe not (LOUIS WILLIAMS) but they've already been soundly beaten by every good team they've played this year

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago)

eh theyre just working out the kinks integrating brand

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago)

yeah you're probably right. i guess it depends on what realistic expectations are for them? no way they are getting past the second round but i guess that's a pretty good season

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

yah well theyre not likely beating the celtics or cavs - next year if they add a shooter or two they could be serious tho

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ justin.tv dude checking out the other games at halftime of the celtics game

― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, November 10, 2008 8:54 PM

lol the chatroom goes batshit when they do that

eman, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?page=jchill-081106

"Some people say 'groundbreaker.' Some say 'trailblazer.' I say I'm the test dummy. I'm the guy who's gonna test it out for everyone else."

― eman, Thursday, November 6, 2008 8:47 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

good for j chill, i remember hearing stories about how certain players (josh smith) used to treat him like a second class citizen cuz he came off the bench (even tho he's clearly superior to the likes of nominal-starter marvin williams), dont blame him for leaving

ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ justin.tv dude checking out the other games at halftime of the celtics game

― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, November 10, 2008 8:54 PM

haha! some dudes last season had a camera pointed at a TV set up. you'd hear the guys in the room talking shit and getting wasted.

carne asada, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

O.J. Mayo on just-completed four-game West Coast trip: 28 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 50% from the floor, 51% from three.

Last night, down 17 with a minute to go in the third, Marc Iavaroni moved Mayo to point for the first time in his NBA career. Result: 19 points and 4 assists in 13 minutes, leading the team from 17 down to 2 up before Phoenix finally won.

NICE JOB KEVIN MCHALE!

Hubie Brown, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

chicago upsets atlanta! tonite @ 830 est

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 01:31 (sixteen years ago)

lolwizards 0 - 5

eman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

lebron is hitting some amazing shots tonite

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

this is otm

Mayo, he's for real like Beasley and Rose. I like that, despite his profligate scoring, he also makes smart plays, resourceful plays, almost mature-beyond-his-years plays that bespeak a certain calm and wisdom. Maybe it's just the beard, which frames his face in way that's anything but post-Bron. I just get the feeling that he's never really in a hurry, and that when he starts going off, it's because he's decided the time is right. There's something Joe Johnson-esque to it.

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

freedarko obvs

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

ha i was all hmm sounds good O FFS BEARO FREE DARKO FOOL ME ONCE...

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

why has igoudala taken 9 shots tonight and thaddeus young 14

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

lebron gonna average 35 this year? how good will cavs be if they move expiring szerbiak + picks for redd?

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

the cavs are going to win it sll

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

everyone talks about lebron winning bolting for ny/nj to make mad dollars or pal around with hov but no one ever brings up the fact that if lbj wins one in cleveland it kind of absolves him from turning on his team and his state

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

winning

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

maybe if they get redd or someone comparable xp

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

mostly i think lebron is a transformer who plays basketball

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

maybe if they get redd or someone comparable xp

― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:13 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

mo williams is good enough?

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

in addition to mo williams

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

wow you know theres a bunch of good teams this year

and one v scary one

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago)

this is crazy

George Hill, PG
Roger Mason, SG
Tim Duncan, PF
Ime Udoka, SG
Fabricio Oberto, C

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:32 (sixteen years ago)

8 pts 4 rbs in 11 mins for ariza at half

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

cavs should start varejao and run imo

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

good game going on in dallas

carne asada, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

Chris Bosh Dancing To Busta Rhymes Arab Money On FLOW935 FM

i love chris bosh

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago)

this is crazy

Did Timmy get traded to the developmental league or what.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago)

haha for serious

btw bosh's youtube channel is essential http://www.youtube.com/user/cboshtv

here he is pwning someone in rock band

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:34 (sixteen years ago)

10:47 mrluna2012: is this for people who cant afford cable

eman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

or whose cable box is locked in a trunk

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:50 (sixteen years ago)

which feed are you watching?
xp

carne asada, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

im watching dallas-lakers on fifa09 online gaming

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

chicago upsets atlanta! tonite @ 830 est

― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:31 PM

...

eman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

it was a close game!!!

to be fair that was more hope than prediction

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

imagine what would be different without kh's injury ...

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:38 (sixteen years ago)

die kevin mchale die die die

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

:D i kind of agree with that freedarko take on oj mayo thus far, he won't keep it up but i see a weird continuity that goes oj mayo -> joe johnson -> paul pierce, that time-controlled, loping old man game; oj obv more explosive and more error-prone for now and pp having all the veteran moves and 'all star mode' where he just can't be stopped but it's def a continuum

if lebron didn't exist joe johnson would be racking up player of the weeks and months this year

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago)

also chris bosh now >>> gilbert for tru 21st century people's star

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

what's going on in Oakland? Nelson is fucking it all up or what?

carne asada, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

monte ellis moped kinda fuckd w/their plans

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

Greg Oden might possibly play some minutes in another NBA game tonight! How's that for really big excitement?

uh....?

Aimless, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

shaq v. yao

eman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

poor yao - born too late

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

what's going on in Oakland? Nelson is fucking it all up or what?

It sounds like Nelson is trying to force Mullin out and install Donnie Nelson. Mullin and the team president Robert Rowell are not on the same page at all, and Rowell just fired Mullin's good friend Pete D'Alessandro and replaced him with Nelson's friend Larry Riley. Mullin had a deal to re-sign Baron but blew it. Rowell is playing hardball with Monta Ellis after Mullin asked him not to. Jackson is going to be re-signed long-term for no good reason. Nelson won't let his young dudes off the bench even though the team obviously won't contend this year (although he's been giving them more run with Maggette and Harrington injured). Harrington hates Nelson. It's pretty bad.

polyphonic, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

Mullin had a deal to re-sign Baron but Rowell rejected it, I mean.

polyphonic, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

iirc rick bucher said nellie might have thrown salt in the deal too

que(ef) (tremendoid), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

which game 2 watch:
c's v hawks
lakers v hornets

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago)

d v r

nize narcisso (tremendoid), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

Hi guys, greg oden just got his first nba points on a offensive board, spin and pretty serious dunk.

Clay, Thursday, 13 November 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago)

posey backs into bynum, bynum shoves posey to ground

am0n, Thursday, 13 November 2008 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

d v r

― nize narcisso (tremendoid), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:58 PM

not an option but i got 2 justin.tv windows open XD

am0n, Thursday, 13 November 2008 02:10 (sixteen years ago)

this game sucks. celtics/hawks is way more interesting. and the feed is overdubbed in.. russian?

am0n, Thursday, 13 November 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

pierce with the clutch jumper!

am0n, Thursday, 13 November 2008 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

also chris bosh now >>> gilbert for tru 21st century people's star

― schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:50 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

yes

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 03:26 (sixteen years ago)

just got in from the bars..oh shiit lakers 7-0

carne asada, Thursday, 13 November 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago)

That Pierce.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 13 November 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

mcgrady taking down nash!

carne asada, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

shaq pushing everyone

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

shitty move by barnes

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

ladies and gentleman, the 2008 suns

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

yes, just one gentleman...

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:28 (sixteen years ago)

oh! nice buzzer beater nash

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:28 (sixteen years ago)

oh! nice buzzer beater nash

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

http://216.71.158.68/webcat/media/siren.gif jazz jizzed on by wizards http://216.71.158.68/webcat/media/siren.gif

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:56 (sixteen years ago)

jizzing wizard would be a good name for a high school punk band

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:57 (sixteen years ago)

d-will played like he was still hurting, real tentative - would rather see price or knight in there until he is back at 100% tbh. no okur or fesenko and AK not really showing up either didn't help.

matt barnes: still a d-bag

6335, Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:04 (sixteen years ago)

PAUL PIERCE !!!!

put points on your face (ice cr?m), Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:27 (sixteen years ago)

holy fuck @ dwight howard tonite

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 13 November 2008 09:22 (sixteen years ago)

http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5hgXSXznokYWuI0c8HRhnB7Uwf0mA?size=m

nice nail polish chunderhead

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.crucialminutiae.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/mystery.jpg

game of pick up artist

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

lol at the suns/lakers fight

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

what a girly fight including shaq pushing four rockets at once

myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

LOL user profile http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=put+points+on+your+face&aq=f&oq=

carne asada, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

damnnnn googles fast

put points on your face (ice cr?m), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

haha

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago)

kings coach fined $25,000 for calling officiating "ridiculous"

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

can players get away with that or do they get fined too

eman, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

mike jordan yes correct (tremendoid), Friday, 14 November 2008 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

jordan loses 1 on 1 to some mutal fund guy

put points on your face (ice cr?m), Friday, 14 November 2008 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

*

Granny Dainger, Friday, 14 November 2008 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

Bruce (WA): What's playing on your iTunes?

J.A. Adande: Now it's Black Moon. Enta da Stage is an underrated album.

carne asada, Friday, 14 November 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

:D

eman, Saturday, 15 November 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

gross suns-kings game real boring

sofa king (deej), Saturday, 15 November 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

phoenix turnovers like theyre going out of style
ahhh it got way more interesting the lazier the suns play - if sacramento pulls this out it would be XD

sofa king (deej), Saturday, 15 November 2008 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

pistons laying it on the lakers

t-t-totally some dude (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 November 2008 05:50 (sixteen years ago)

nite of upsets dertoit>la denver>boston nj>atlanta sa>houston

ketchup bro (ice cr?m), Saturday, 15 November 2008 13:39 (sixteen years ago)

oh + charlotte>utah

ketchup bro (ice cr?m), Saturday, 15 November 2008 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

sacramento almost upset the sun too, really wish they had - i had to leave when the game was going into OT

sofa king (deej), Saturday, 15 November 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

jesus christ did you guys see what shaq just did

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

what happened

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

hes acting like a baby too

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

just clotheslined dude and got ejected

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

haha what the fuck

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

he just got fined $35,000 for shoving the whole suns team

has he lost his mind

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

see the replay if you can

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

im sure it will be all over sportscenter tonight

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

good news for my fantasy team lol

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

damn lopez is killin it

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

8:11am3king3:STUCKEY IS BUFFED AND SEXY HE IS BETTER THAN BILLUPS

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

word to god

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

8:14chaudhry737:i agree with am3king2

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:14 (sixteen years ago)

ahaha nash blocks a shot

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago)

Leandro Barbosa, SG Has not entered game

what the hell is this

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

really want a nashblock.gif

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

amundson with the dunk and the ugly free throws

this is a great game

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.nba.com/media/act_chris_quinn.jpg

eman, Monday, 17 November 2008 05:28 (sixteen years ago)

Leandro Barbosa, SG Has not entered game

His mom died.

polyphonic, Monday, 17 November 2008 07:20 (sixteen years ago)

haha was just the other day telling co-worker who played neighborhood ball with Chris Quinn (Quinn is a few years younger than co-worker, yet was better than all the "big kids") how his NBA.com photo was scaring me.

Granny Dainger, Monday, 17 November 2008 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

http://i33.tinypic.com/vdk5f.jpg

ice cr?m, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

somewhere david stern is smiling

ice cr?m, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

and fondling himself

eman, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

too bad he didn't have insider information before trading for j kidd

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 17 November 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

like last year's "kidd is shooting .00038383% for the season" thread

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 17 November 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha yeah read "inside info" as "a box score"

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

pssst hay mark cuban mere a minute - keep this under yr hat but jason kidd is 1m years old ok - if anyone asks you didnt get it from me

ice cr?m, Monday, 17 November 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

just clotheslined dude and got ejected

― _/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:01 PM

watching this now. so dope

the FBI, police and members of the hilarious rock band Korn (eman), Monday, 17 November 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

was that payback for ai's elbow to nash?

the FBI, police and members of the hilarious rock band Korn (eman), Monday, 17 November 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

keep this under yr hat but jason kidd is 1m years old ok

lolol

the FBI, police and members of the hilarious rock band Korn (eman), Monday, 17 November 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

http://mamma.com/images/mamma_reg.gif

the FBI, police and members of the hilarious rock band Korn (eman), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

suns-pistons was a real fun game to watch

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago)

_/(o_o)/¯ (deej), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

The Mother of All Search Engines®

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

what a fucking lunatic

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

millsap just blocked shaq's dunk, wauuu!

6335, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

AK 2 consecutive blocks on shaq, love this man

6335, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 04:24 (sixteen years ago)

no okur, no d-will, but we rollin'

6335, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

LOL justin.tv dude was watching juno during a commercial - now alien vs predator

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago)

a little girl just asked renaldo balkman how long it took him to grow his hair and he responded "it took me abt five years - beofre that i had a fade but i figured to be a guy w/dreadlocks that would really help out on the court"

wtf?

now on nba tv gary payton is being hilarious hating on everyone on the allstar team ballot - chris webber loving it

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago)

why was a girl asking renaldo balkman something

some dudes just wanna have fun (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

some cute segment the nuggs do i guess

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

chris webber just described kevin love as "a guy who looks like hed be pretty easy to score on"

watch the celtics/knicks justin.tv feed right now for sweet gary payton nbatv action - recommended

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

damn i missed a scalolabrine 3-pointer

eman, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

"He played good defense and hit two big 3s and I just feel good for him," Celtics guard Eddie House said. "He got his number called and he was ready. He was a true professional."

XD

eman, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/6a6743d9-0f11-48e3-ae7c-6bd62d7b1c69.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:39 (sixteen years ago)

lol wut

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/09ea4100-13ff-4cd3-8bb9-969598d9e680.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:40 (sixteen years ago)

real talk i won a mini bball hoop that i still have in my parents' garage at a heat game back in the 90s when i was real young doing some shit like riding a bike through cones and then making a shot in this little hoop that i ended up winning

some dudes just wanna have fun (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

then when was 15 two days after i got a cast on after i broke my arm i answered a trivia question right in one of those "go ask a random person in the crowd a question" games and i could take a prize under a box or shoot a 3 for a cruise for 2 and i immediately yelled cruise but then i realized i had a broken arm but they would let me go back so my friend had to shoot and he missed

some dudes just wanna have fun (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago)

lol Oden has an Abe Lincoln thing going on.

Leee, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

My mom is convinced he has Marfan's syndrome like Honest Abe too.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:08 (sixteen years ago)

Artest explained in training camp that he chose No. 96 with the Rockets because the digits, to Artest, look like a lower-case Q and lower-case B, letters synonymous with the Queensbridge section of New York where he grew up.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 08:23 (sixteen years ago)

eric snow is retired. had to hear it on real houswives of atlanta finale. hats off dude you made noise

mike jordan yes correct (tremendoid), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 08:34 (sixteen years ago)

I remember hearing Artest chose #93 because the digits looked "crazy".

Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

I saw Artest out in Santa Monica two weeks ago and he was wearing either a Mets or Knicks hat (or both?) and was confused. This makes sense now.

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

Artest is one of the few players in the history of the game that I will tune in to watch play D in the same way you'd tune in just to watch Kobe or Lebron play the other end. He reminds me of this kid on my block growing up who had that same sort of straight-back defensive posture and the same combination of tenacity and strength.

Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

kind of loving the new rough and tumble suns

shaq don't give a fuck it seems

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

Artest is one of the few players in the history of the game that I will tune in to watch play D
^^^^truth

i wish there were more defense replays on televised games. our boy hubie is always a pleasure to hear on a game with guys like artest, he sees and explains the shit that ron does in a way that makes it sound as fun to watch as cp3 with the ball

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

i wish there were more interesting things to say about the celtics d other than it's really freakin good

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

My mom is convinced he has Marfan's syndrome like Honest Abe too.

I was mostly commenting on his beard, not making the typical LOLDen zing. Could Marfan's explain his injuriousness?

Leee, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

lol bulls

eman, Thursday, 20 November 2008 06:04 (sixteen years ago)

man they got thrashed.

i'm feeling kind of off balance, not knowing which teams suck and which don't so far this season.

circles, Thursday, 20 November 2008 06:25 (sixteen years ago)

yah really only la cleveland and boston have played well - everyone else is 6 and 5

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 November 2008 12:18 (sixteen years ago)

bulls looked fucking awful

some dudes just wanna have fun (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

and vinny del negro looks like he has no clue how to change that. even with the excuse of not having deng or hinrich, that was disgusting. it's amazing how this team went from being so likeable 2 years ago due to their defensive toughness and all around no I in team spirit to me hating everyone in the organization not named derrick rose.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

hay maybe they suk this year and draft someone sweet right

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

my roomie was otm when he said that the bulls have 13 six mans

some dudes just wanna have fun (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

ben gordon was on fire the last couple games then he went and made 2 field goals in 30 mins headinhands.gif

moonship journey to Jaxon Finney (deej), Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

does vinny del negro know how to coach? i swear like 60% of the bulls possessions last night was just someone (usually gordon or hughes) dribbling down the court and taking a jump shot 2 steps in side the 3 point line w/ 15 seconds on the clock

some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

i missed the game - but i got the autotext score when i was out drinking and it was like 'guh'

long post, yet important (deej), Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

ya it was really frustrating-- also the bulls need someone who is tall. oden and aldridge just murdered them last night on the glass. gooden, noah, thomas are all pretty good in their own way (though none of the three should really be starting) but they were getting killed early by joel pryzbillia even.

and this is esp a problem because the bulls rarely drive to the rim. they just get no offensive rbds off their jump shots

some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I don't wtf VDN is thinking re: his offensive "strategy". If I see BG iso'd at the top of the key one more time I am going to steal VDN's hair products. This team looks fairly good when they're swinging the ball from side to side, making basket cuts, y'know, actually PLAYING BASKETBALL as opposed to playing their version of 21. But there's only so much blame I can throw VDN's way. Pax is the one who assembled the team, Pax is the one who gave VDN a head coaching job. Dude has done a whole lot of jack shit in his time as GM, time for a new man at the helm.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

haha pax's strategy as GM is the same as his as a player huh

is that my man hannity?? (deej), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago)

hannity & capone & noreaga

some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

hannity is on fox news

:) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

nah when someone set him up nicely, Pax the hooper wasn't hesitant to pull the trigger. Imagine this team without D Rose! Pax can't even take credit for getting him.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

shaq gettin aggressive w/ gasol :)

eman, Friday, 21 November 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

crowd full of laker fans?? fuk u phoenix

eman, Friday, 21 November 2008 05:46 (sixteen years ago)

celtics givin detroit the business!

right after detroit beat la and cleveland too - second night of a road back to back for the pistons but still celtics were up by 30 before the scrubs went in

:) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Friday, 21 November 2008 13:23 (sixteen years ago)

knicks and warriors swap jamal crawford and al harrington

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

seems like a decent swap on both sides, jamal gets to play pretend baron davis until monta comes back, harrington gets to go nuts in d'antoni world which is probably second only to being one of don nelson's favorites

oh and his contract expires in the magical 2010 when the knicks will throw out lebron, randolph and three d-leaguers

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

whoa i think this means nelson's dream is about to come tru: four shoot-first small forwards plus andris biedrins

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

Make that lebron and 4 d-leaguers. Randolph to Clippers with Mardy Collins for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley.

mayor jingleberries, Friday, 21 November 2008 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

lol, can we get a picture of d'antoni with a "i could be coaching derrick rose instead" look on his face?

circles, Friday, 21 November 2008 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

wowo knicks clearin the deck - now the only thing left is for lebron to STAY IN CLEVELAND - plz plz plz i dont think i can deal w/the new york media if he comes here

:) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

these trades are crazy. How do the warriors need another shoot-first swingman? Who gets benched in LA, Kaman or Camby? How does Z-Bo work next to either of them? Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley: A+, Knicks. Is Curry gonna have to get some run now? This whole thing makes my eyes cross.

Clay, Saturday, 22 November 2008 00:30 (sixteen years ago)

dude on espn is saying lebron AND bosh will be knicks in 2010

eman, Saturday, 22 November 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

disturbing

there are so many dudes who are gonna be free agents that year - gonna be a weird season

is that my man hannity?? (deej), Saturday, 22 November 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

Crawford's going to liberate Nellie from using D-Leaguers at the point, and he has something resembling an outside shot.

Leee, Saturday, 22 November 2008 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

carlolsimo

¯\(°_o)/¯ (cankles), Saturday, 22 November 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago)

i almost felt a little bad for the chunder last nite, they were pretty bad

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 22 November 2008 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

dude on espn is saying lebron AND bosh will be knicks in 2010

― eman, Friday, November 21, 2008 8:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this was jalen rose. it was incredibly retarded.

some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:34 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/story/782922.html

Pembroke teen's suicide unfolds live on Web

"The suicide video of the teen first appeared live on Justin.tv, then was posted to other sites such as YouTube.com. Both have since have removed the clip."

some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

this was jalen rose. it was incredibly retarded.

― some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:34 PM

was listening not watching but iirc he even went so far as to pick out what numbers they'd have.

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:47 (sixteen years ago)

ya and obv jalen rose has no sources on this issue and he just pulled the names out of his ass and then the dudes on espn proceeded to analyze the knicks w/ lebron AND bosh as if this was a. actually happening now b. actually going to happen. im not one to get heated over nba fastbreak but got damn

some dude's gotta give (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

I am watching this houston orlando game and abt four or five times the Magic have had two guys at the top of the arc (1 with the ball) and houston have apparently tried to swap the dudes in front of them, only every time this happens they just step forward and suddenly make the suddenly completely open shot. Is this some voodoo screen shit?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 23 November 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago)

portland and phoenix suddenly shooting the lights out on each other in the 3rd q

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 23 November 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

shaq using wily old man voodoo on oden

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 23 November 2008 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

Shaq said he didn’t offer Oden any advice.

“I’m the shogun,” O’Neal said. “And before you get to the shogun, you’ve got to go through a lot of ninjas. He has to go through Dwight Howard and Yao Ming and by that time, I’ll be out of here.”

Clay, Sunday, 23 November 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 23 November 2008 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

http://i34.tinypic.com/23tfvuo.jpg

:) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Sunday, 23 November 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

am i crazy or is this the same logic that had tim duncan and grant hill signing with the magic and winning 12 titles?

sub dued (m bison), Sunday, 23 November 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

that happened right

ice cr?m, Sunday, 23 November 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

eddie jordan gone

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

am i crazy or is this the same logic that had tim duncan and grant hill signing with the magic and winning 12 titles?

Make sure you sign Duncan before you sign Hill.

Also, make sure you sign Elton Brand before you sign Baron Davis.

polyphonic, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

lol wizards coach next on the chopping block

craig sager (eman), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

Man, Jamal Crawford is really happy to be here!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/24/SP0114B751.DTL

polyphonic, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 08:19 (sixteen years ago)

I hated Crawford when he was a Bull but he is made for Nellieball.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago)

lol get me the fuk out ny

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago)

guys the warriors have a 2 inch thick playbook? lol doorstop

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/Basketball-Playbook_2.png

craig sager (eman), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

freedarko book outtake?

racist (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

lol suns need last second three to beat tha thundah

atlas thugged (m bison), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, Simmons, you still crack me up sometimes:

(Derrick Rose's immediate awesomeness) has been one of the most random shockers of this season, right up there with ... Tim Thomas being involved in a trade that was delayed because someone else had a heart problem.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

i enjoy reading bill simmons on basketball for things like his noting how good cleveland is and their potential for improvement through expiring contract trades - no one else talks abt these things - why i dont know

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

His take on Mike Dunleavy Sr. in the article I quoted above was completely fantastic, I thought.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

his stuff is always awesome

never got the hate

racist (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 27 November 2008 07:17 (sixteen years ago)

it's not always awesome, he doesn't really know what he's talking about half the time and he's way too self-satisfied. enjoyable and 50 percent OTM.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 27 November 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

he's good when he's not talking about boston (which means his football and baseball writing is insufferable, basketball is the exception because he didn't write a fucking book about the celts)

atlas thugged (m bison), Thursday, 27 November 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

didnt write a book about the pats, but he may as well have with the amount of ink spilled on them

atlas thugged (m bison), Thursday, 27 November 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

I especially hate him on baseball because he is completely ignorant of the NL, because he plays in an AL-only fantasy league and can't be bothered to watch the NL, even though he is paid to write about baseball for a living.

polyphonic, Thursday, 27 November 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

dimension 5ive otm

6335, Thursday, 27 November 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

daaang one game separates teams 2-8 in the west, all competitive and shit

atlas thugged (m bison), Saturday, 29 November 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey doesn't play video games for fun or fantasy. Morey uses the EA Sports NBA game for professional reasons. He uses it to help evaluate talent. Morey says he is a statistical junky, an admirer of Oakland Athletics General Manager Billy Beane and a mathematical nerd. "I've always loved numbers," Morey said. "I don't play EA Sports as a game. I use it as a tool." While the kids plug in NBA 08 to "ooh" and "aah" over how real it looks when Kobe Bryant dunks or LeBron James runs the court and finishes, Morey plugs in for more serious purposes. "Say if you're thinking about acquiring Ron Artest," Morey said from Hawaii, where he was evaluating talent in person at the Maui Classic college tournament. "On the game, you can see how adding Artest can change the dynamic of your team. You can program it to run offensive sets with Artest and any combination of your players." According to the NBA, about half the teams are using the video game as part of personnel evaluation. In the quiet of his office, Morey said he can see how often a player posts up and gets shots on cuts to the basket as well as about defensive and offensive tendencies.

polyphonic, Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

what
the
fuck

Geir Hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

military uses those shits for training - antonio gates used madden to learn football after not playing college - now this

pretty fucking amazing

ice cr?m, Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

ok nba live is the worst simulator i could think of - bar none

Geir Hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

houston gm is a smart dude srsly - ive never played nba live tho

ice cr?m, Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

seems like hes just using it as visualization aide

ice cr?m, Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

ya i was gonna say this would bring more lols if it was the bobcats GM or something - i mean you really can't hate on the way the rockets are put together

Geir Hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:33 (sixteen years ago)

dang lakers really are good and i still think they haven't completely clicked

second unit plus bynum seems like a reasonable starting five in most cities

i'm really enjoying watching this team play, they're winning me over

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 1 December 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

Jackson and Kupchak have been busy little beavers. The Lakers will be hard to surpass this year. But the season is young. Injuries happen and chemistry can blow up. Still, I like their chances at a title.

Aimless, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

what if there's a... championship re-match

craig sager (eman), Monday, 1 December 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

over/under on that happening?

craig sager (eman), Monday, 1 December 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago)

cavs are a lil better than the c's right now and they have expiring contracts to trade for help - if cleveland improves cavs/lakers could be epic EPIC

rematch could totally happen tho too - those three teams are way better than everyone else

ice cr?m, Monday, 1 December 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

yeah cavs and lakers would be it

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 December 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

mo williams isnt really delivering for my fantasy team so far, wahts w/ that?? is lebron just giving himself assists somehow

deej, Monday, 1 December 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

williams is a good game player but i wouldn't exactly hang anything on him fantasy wise - he's there to facilitate the offense and do other things that aren't fantasy-wise

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 December 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

hes more of a combo guard - never a big assist guy

ice cr?m, Monday, 1 December 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

the lakers season starts on christmas day, i'm not hearing that champion shit right now. unless ariza plays 48 min. per game

thng is important (tremendoid), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 04:12 (sixteen years ago)

The Warriors really had to struggle to find a way to lose that game, but mission accomplished.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 08:18 (sixteen years ago)

Now I will post a photo of Brandan Wright:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/rwill4unc/BrandanWrightWings.jpg

polyphonic, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

Dear Greg Oden:

STOP MISSING DUNKS

TWO TIMES

luv, N8

David R., Wednesday, 3 December 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

dear portland,

im never going to be a super amazing offensive player. deal.

love,
greg oden :)

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago)

I think even pre-Piston Ben Wallace couldn't back-rim A POINT BLANK DUNK. TWICE.

David R., Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

ha admittedly im not watching

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:08 (sixteen years ago)

big showdown w/the celtics friday!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago)

good work dunleavy finding new and innovative ways to lose games, the world salutes you

i turned this one off during the timeout with 9 seconds left b/c it was obvious it would be dribble-dribble-dribble, off balance baron three, front rim, game

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

how did you golden state folks live with this for years

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

how did you golden state folks live with this for years

We didn't have to live with it very long, and Baron was only one of many dudes who did that shit.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 05:38 (sixteen years ago)

Are the Blazers actually good this year? Like, they seem to be 13-6 and kinda underperforming at the same time.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

4th best margin of victory in the nba

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago)

sweet statistical look at the significance of early season success http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=393

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I don't get it! Like, by every measure they're rolling but all I ever seem to see is them edging teams by Brandon Roy buzzer beaters. I guess maybe what I am not getting is just Roy and maybe Aldridge being top-15 nba players now? Plus a deep bench?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

they beat miami by 40

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I don't get it! Like, by every measure they're rolling but all I ever seem to see is them edging teams by Brandon Roy buzzer beaters. I guess maybe what I am not getting is just Roy and maybe Aldridge being top-15 nba players now? Plus a deep bench?

Not only are they deep, but almost everyone on that team projects to improve greatly, perhaps even within this season.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

The Blazers have so many rookies and players new to the team that it is very hard to say what sort of noise they'll make at the end of the season. The have the potential to improve a lot in a short time. but also a lot of latitude for struggling and flailing their way through the long middle of the season.

I expect they'll at least make the playoffs this season. By April they could be shaky as hell in a playoff atmosphere or the team no one wants to play. I'm happy either way.

Between coach Macmillan and BRoy, I don't think the wheels will fall off for more than a couple of games here or there before it gets fixed and they're rolling again. 56 wins?

Aimless, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

hollingers thingy has them projected @ 57 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

Also gives them fourth-best odds of making the Finals.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ toronto jumping on the coach-firing bandwagon

― craig sager (eman), Wednesday, December 3, 2008 11:58 PM

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 4 December 2008 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

watched the raptors last week and noticed that mitchell didn't seem very dialed in (for him). maybe he knew it was coming by then too though.

jesus man (tremendoid), Thursday, 4 December 2008 06:00 (sixteen years ago)

They're like .500 though.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 December 2008 06:41 (sixteen years ago)

Is it possible for me to adopt Greg Oden:

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 December 2008 06:46 (sixteen years ago)

Western Conference
Team GB
1. * LA Lakers --
2. * Portland 2.5

Clay, Thursday, 4 December 2008 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

Things the Blazers do well:
- They are the best rebounding team in the NBA, and no one save maybe the Lakers and Sixers are really close. There's never a time when they don't have either Oden or Przybilla in the game, which just in terms of gobbling up missed shots is like playing Dwight Howard 48 minutes a night, every night.
- They are lethal from 3-point, second behind ATL in 3P% with six guys hitting 36% or better (though one of those is Channing Frye with a whopping 5 triples). They do an excellent job of ball movement and collapsing defenses through Roy drive-and-kick stuff or posting Oden (who has ugly as sin post moves now, sure, but he's a very good passer out of double teams). And Rudy is absolutely fearless, he can and will get his shot up at any time against any defender in his face.
- Oden aside, they rarely turn the ball over, though they don't force many turnovers on defense, so that's kind of a push.
- Yeah, duh, Roy. He's increased the number of possessions he uses per game without sacrificing any shooting efficiency, and now is something like third in the NBA at getting to the line among guards behind Wade and Devin Harris*. He went from borderline all-star to legit top 10 or 15 player (Aldridge isn't even close, though).

They still have trouble playing defense on the perimeter (explain to me how they hold Chris Paul to his worst game of the year and a week later get lit up by Chris Duhon...) but even on their off nights when the 3 isn't falling against lower quality teams (SAC, NYK, 2x MIN) they still manage to pull out tough wins. When everything IS working, they blow teams off the court. So yeah, they're legit and still with room for improvement.

*Devin Harris is shooting 12 free throws a game. WTF.

josephcharles, Thursday, 4 December 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

And I reserve the right to take all that back when they get killed by 30 on Fri in Boston.

josephcharles, Thursday, 4 December 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

rip lester freamon

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06kQepI6vobBp/610x.jpg

cankles, Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://therapup.uproxx.com/2008/11/if-wu-tang-members-were-nba-players.html

cankles, Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

He was just followin' da money. Sad, really.

josephcharles, Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

that karl malone/ghostface morph is bringing the lols

6335, Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

ha fuk cankles i was just gonna post that

craig sager (eman), Friday, 5 December 2008 02:11 (sixteen years ago)

http://cdn.therapup.uproxx.com-s1.simplecdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/raekwon-the-baron.gif

craig sager (eman), Friday, 5 December 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

baron's face isn't fat enough

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

Chris Mannix, SI.com: "Five games, five Golden State losses and a more than 2:1 turnover-to-assist ratio. Maggette's selfish play hasn't gone unnoticed by other players. According to sources, after the final buzzer against Boston, Celtics forward Kevin Garnett turned to Maggette and shouted, 'Way to get your numbers.' 'He just puts his head down and goes to the basket,' an Eastern Conference scout said. 'He doesn't even look to pass.' Word from team sources is that the Warriors are already regretting signing Maggette to a five-year, $50 million deal last offseason.

^ news

but this is ridiculous! (tremendoid), Friday, 5 December 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago)

xpost i can't stop watching baron's tongue appear out of nowhere. or whatever it is. the jelly belly.

Clay, Friday, 5 December 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago)

holy shit -- the last two games against NYK & MIA (combined 250+ Warrior points), CM played 87 minutes and had TWO ASSISTS

David R., Friday, 5 December 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

god damn

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago)

i mean ffs mullin get one league pass, dude is a ballhog's ballhog

but this is ridiculous! (tremendoid), Friday, 5 December 2008 04:28 (sixteen years ago)

lol yeah, it'd be different if it wasn't what he'd done his entire career: never pass but kind of make up for it by shooting a million free throws. only problem is he isn't doing it quite as well as last season so far

circles, Friday, 5 December 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure CM was the owner's idea, guys.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 5 December 2008 05:21 (sixteen years ago)

wow mike fratello just got hardsonned by reggie miller on this den-sa broadcast.

reggie was talking about george hill, who went to IUPUI, and he goes "this guy averaged 36 pts in high school. should've been at a major university like indiana" (+ 1 minute more of ranting) and then fratello goes "maybe he wanted to stay close to home? did you think of that?" and then reggie goes "IU and purdue - both of those are in indiana" lololol

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 05:44 (sixteen years ago)

cm is a good player - put guy on a good team - f a hater

ice cr?m, Friday, 5 December 2008 07:57 (sixteen years ago)

Celtics v Blazers tonight. I expect about a 9 point Celtics win, if both teams play to form. But, really, almost anything could happen, including a 25 point Celtics loss or vice versa.

Aimless, Friday, 5 December 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

LOL BLOUNT

carne asada, Saturday, 6 December 2008 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

OK, I can officially take back my flowing laudatory prose now!

josephcharles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:55 (sixteen years ago)

how 2 roll a blount

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:00 (sixteen years ago)

xp: take it back if you want -- loyal blazers fans dont jump ship getting beat in boston by the champs (who played dirty AGAIN btw)

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:00 (sixteen years ago)

No ship jumping here I love these guys to death, I'm just volunteering to eat my prideful words after seeing my beloved squad get punched in the dick by a better (dirtier whinier and more obnoxious) squad.

josephcharles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:58 (sixteen years ago)

LOL

josephcharles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:02 (sixteen years ago)

lol is dat nigga SNIFFLIN

cankles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:06 (sixteen years ago)

big babby INDEED

josephcharles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:08 (sixteen years ago)

LoLo

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:46 (sixteen years ago)

"here comes the waaaambulance"

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:52 (sixteen years ago)

ha i felt bad for big baby his tantrum is basically all the announcers talked abt for the entire 4th quarter - lol @ garnett claiming it was all predicated on him urging the c's to stay together - lol too @ portland fans upthread complaining abt dirty play lol @ u loooool - portlands good but srsly right now there are three teams who are much beter than everyone else

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:51 (sixteen years ago)

lol too @ portland fans upthread complaining abt dirty play lol @ u loooool

lol too @ portland fans upthread complaining abt dirty play lol @ u loooool

lol too @ portland fans upthread complaining abt dirty play lol @ u loooool

cankles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

i should prob clarify - i pretty much fell off the couch laughing @ big baby - then i felt bad for him

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

and bt i missed whatever the dirt play was - did someone get punched in the dik

btw is rondo taking it to the next next level or what - his passing look so different than last season - all these crazy angles - all this tight zip - last night twice he hit dudes perfectly in the lane when they werent expecting it cause hes too abstract - guy is making me feel better abt the c's championship chances

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 14:01 (sixteen years ago)

and that one crazy crossover reverse that just rimmed out holy shit kid is mad unique

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

ya what was the dirtiness. totally forgot to watch this game

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

Just the usual grabbing and pushing when the ref's view was blocked.

Aimless, Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

There was Garnett unnecessarily sticking his ass out undercutting Roy who was jumping for a rebound and came down awkward and pulled a hamstring. I didn't think it dirty at the time, but I certainly stopped and thought "hmmm....."

Blazers just have trouble with tough veteran teams that throw their weight around like that, right now Przybilla is the only dude willing to stand up and say "the hell?" when the game starts to get a little nasty. Which I would think wouldn't portend well for a deep playoff run since that's pretty much how every playoff game goes, but the toughness will come with reps and playing together.

josephcharles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

Rondo is Rad, yes.

josephcharles, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

Taking sides: Big Baby upset vs. Sasha Vujacic upset

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 6 December 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

hey pointing out that the celtics get dirty is not to take anything away from them, that's their style. the issue of whether portland is in the league elite (we're not, duh, and i never said so) is completely separate from garnett undercutting people and getting down on all fours (WTF WAS THAT) and that kind of shit.

not a whine either, makes me wish we had done something about it because my blazers are mad soft. but when we could thug it out no one liked us either, mostly because all our best cheap shots were by rasheed and they went against blazers rookies. anyway yr boring cank-dawg and ice cr?am, celtics are really really good but that doesn't mean they won't get it taken to them someday by a team that is willing to stand up instead of just whatever it was we did.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

"lol @ u loooool" is really hilarious to me regardless of the discussion, tbh

the second 'loooool' really makes it i think

cankles, Sunday, 7 December 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

i will remember that, in the future

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

my dad's from oregon and is a blazers fan so i am rooting for them about as much as i am the celtics, fwiw

cankles, Sunday, 7 December 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

word?

for what it's worth i always saw myself as playing for the celtics for the first four/five years of my career and then getting moved at the trade deadline back to my hometown club, at least when i was playing by myself at our neighbor's hoop for hours and hours

as a kid i mean

i also attended a hawks playoff game a bunch of years ago, my boy jeff and i were in atl for a convention and strolled right up to the ticket window, got amazing seats because lol hawks fans

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

There was Garnett unnecessarily sticking his ass out undercutting Roy who was jumping for a rebound and came down awkward and pulled a hamstring. I didn't think it dirty at the time, but I certainly stopped and thought "hmmm....."

This deserves the 2nd looooool, IMHO -- Garnett yips and mixes it up and gets on all 4s when he's really feeling it and is very tick-like, but construing that one move as dirty instead of incidental / accidental is pretty silly.

David R., Sunday, 7 December 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

okay so it's bush-league instead of dirty, my bad

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

i didnt invent the idea that garnett has turned dirty since joining the celtics btw

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

on the other hand, i think i was the first one here to have faith in rajon rondo, as proven by my picking him up in our fantasy basketball league as a rookie. i dont want to lick his naked body like some of us around here, but he is clearly a special player and i dont have any problem saying that without him they are just a failed experiment in owner collusion.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:09 (sixteen years ago)

furthermore, I agree wholeheartedly with what this blazers fan says.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:21 (sixteen years ago)

i didnt invent the idea that garnett has turned dirty since joining the celtics btw

wait wait wait -- quality player makes noise about winning, moves to bigger market in controversial trade, and now folks are talking shit about him? SHOCKING

FWIW -- Googling for combos of "kevin garnett" "dirty player" doesn't turn up much of anything. I'm blaming Stu Jackson for these slanderous rumors.

David R., Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:30 (sixteen years ago)

nb: I am not Tommy Heinsohn

David R., Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

i dont want to lick his naked body like some of us around here

― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, December 6, 2008 10:09 PM

wtf?

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:37 (sixteen years ago)

check the celtics thread perhaps?

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

we can't post about celtics in the celtics thread?

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:46 (sixteen years ago)

or are u maaaaaadd @ the pic of rondo smokin one of ur blazers

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:47 (sixteen years ago)

oh yes that is it mr. craig sager you have sure nailed me lol @ me looooooool, you are very on the money and not at all a boring dork like me

peace out you crazy kids

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 7 December 2008 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

KG is one of my favorite dudes when he's not playing my guys... or during that annoying 90 sec NBA ad that's nothing but inane KG yakking to reporters who he clearly doesn't want to talk to.

It was great that he decided to 'bark' at Jerryd Bayless the other night, because of all the dudes on the Blazers Bayless is the one most likely to just take a swing at the guy for no reason. I know he likes to talk shit at tiny point guards but he'd be much better off doing that to Frye or somesuch.

josephcharles, Sunday, 7 December 2008 08:00 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=467

The story in Boston has been the play of Rajon Rondo. The Celtics have four of the top 15 players in the league in WP82, a list which includes Rondo and effectively gives Boston a Big Four. Rondo's triple-double against Indiana on Wednesday was epic: 16 points, 13 rebounds and 17 assists. In the era covered by basketball-reference.com, just Magic Johnson (twice) and Lafayette Lever have hit all three of those marks in the same game.

josephcharles, Sunday, 7 December 2008 08:23 (sixteen years ago)

btw everyone theres two kinds of dirty play in the nba grabbing jerseys setting illegal screens and throwin bows etc which is all good and proper - and then theres constantly doin shit that gets dudes injured - in my years of in depth nba experience only one guy fits the second category: bruce bowen what an asshole srsly

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Sunday, 7 December 2008 09:39 (sixteen years ago)

ayo i go to knicks-pistons game now!

very quotatious (tehresa), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

niiice

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

lol i'm gonna be late

very quotatious (tehresa), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

say hai to ai 4 me

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

oh yes that is it mr. craig sager

finally someone referred to me by my name. thank you

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

ai can kiss my ass

very quotatious (tehresa), Sunday, 7 December 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

ya what happened there

pacers lookin to upset c's streak

craig sager (eman), Monday, 8 December 2008 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

this was srsly the worst i've ever seen them play. they started off horribly and never had a lead the whole game. the only quarter they played with any semblance of skill was the 4th, but it was too late (they got w/in 4 points at one point). wtf. ai totally sucks. rip got ejected or walked off after a technical foul (i do not know what happened! and they did not replay!)? it was really depressing.

very quotatious (tehresa), Monday, 8 December 2008 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

whence comes your pistons fandom, tehresa?

circles, Monday, 8 December 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

Detroit played nearly the entire fourth quarter without Richard Hamilton, who was thrown out of game at Madison Square Garden for the third time in four years. He got a technical foul in the first half, then was called for another and ejected after appearing to give a little shove to Jared Jeffries after fouling him about a minute into the period.

^^^answers

very quotatious (tehresa), Monday, 8 December 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

i became a pistons fan when my lil sis was living in mi and got me into them... 2004? first time i'd paid attn to any sport since like, baseball strike of early 90s i think!

very quotatious (tehresa), Monday, 8 December 2008 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/fullcourtpress/2008/12/rose-injured.html

Granny Dainger, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

he Bulls said Rose suffered the injury when he rolled over onto a knife he was using to carve an apple while in bed.

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Monday, 8 December 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

Crazy enough to be true.

Aimless, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

i thought we had established that he only eats candy

circles, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

Hence his awkward sod approach to eating apples. He's not in practice with them.

Aimless, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

maybe i can buy that

circles, Monday, 8 December 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

Don't try to swallow it, though.

Aimless, Monday, 8 December 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

the apple in question

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a236/beabarajas/Caramel-apple-Solo1.jpg

craig sager (eman), Monday, 8 December 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

he's teeth are obv so rotted from all teh candy that he can't bite into an apple and eat it like a normal person.

Granny Dainger, Monday, 8 December 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

sorry tza but... LOL @ wizards beating pistons

craig sager (eman), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago)

lakers fell to kings too, wow

craig sager (eman), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

yah wtf w/detroit - they get ai and beat cleveland and la back to back - now they suk ?????

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.philipday.co.uk/Images/fifties/tear%20hair%20out.jpg

very quotatious (tehresa), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

How are the TMac/Yao/Artest Rockets, even heathy, only about the 7th best team this year? It makes no sense to me that Orlando be remotely on the same tier, what do they have going for them comparatively?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:11 (sixteen years ago)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg262/doricalcinha/DwightHowardSupermanDunk.jpg

puppy cam (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol @jason kidd's son

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

j-rich traded to the suns for raja and diaw

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

waht?

carne asada, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

saw it on espn

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ajm0d8YGUtHA9eu65OXuLcm8vLYF?slug=txbobcatssunstrade&prov=st&type=lgns

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

ugh c/p the link

i feel bad for raja/diaw

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3760914

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

bobcats got tooken damn

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 December 2008 04:23 (sixteen years ago)

haha robin lopez just blocked the shit out of pau gasol in what surely was one of the hilarious plays in nba history

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 11 December 2008 04:31 (sixteen years ago)

bcuz it involved robin lopez blocking the shit out of pau gasol

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 11 December 2008 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

I went to the Warriors/Bucks game tonight and it was real fun.

Suns with highway robbery on that trade.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 December 2008 06:37 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1210/nba_g_mowilliams_412.jpg

take note nba franchises - two color unis are sweet action

and ps plz resist the urge to put pointless patches everywhere

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

oh no look at that wide open space in the shorts stripe its freaking me out lets fill it up!!!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

hollinger on melos big quarter:

If Anthony's 33-point quarter is a record, then what can we possibly say about the 6:23 stretch toward the end when he scored 25 points in just 13 Nuggets possessions? At that rate, in a 48-minute game he would have scored 184 points.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=Perdiem-121108

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

haha that makes per-48 stats sound kind of roffleous

it's a helpful way to identify underutilized talent but along those lines of thinking gets you like 100 million for jerome james based on three good games or whatever

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Thursday, 11 December 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

that was a hell of a quarter, though

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Thursday, 11 December 2008 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

sigh

Too many ice cream sandwiches and Rock Band the night before, that's the only explanation.

josephcharles, Friday, 12 December 2008 06:34 (sixteen years ago)

is Roy always this much of a ballhog??

Granny Dainger, Friday, 12 December 2008 06:40 (sixteen years ago)

ha I didn't check the boxscore til just now. 43 min, 33pts, ZERO ASSISTS. That's impressive, actually.

Granny Dainger, Friday, 12 December 2008 06:41 (sixteen years ago)

He's really not, he's a great distributor but you could tell the end of the ORL game and the 2nd quarter of this one got him seriously PISSED OFF.

josephcharles, Friday, 12 December 2008 06:47 (sixteen years ago)

message for oden: when okur is spinning around you and dunking, you know you've got some work to do

6335, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:02 (sixteen years ago)

roy looked impressive trying to take over, they just didn't fall, and the offense was in shambles otherwise. this was the real deron, he hasn't looked this healthy in a while. blake got punished

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:32 (sixteen years ago)

utah is going to be very tough to beat this playoffs.

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:33 (sixteen years ago)

Crittenton, James pleased to join Wizards

By HOWARD FENDRICH, AP Sports Writer 5 hours, 51 minutes ago

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WASHINGTON (AP)—Javaris Crittenton and Mike James might be the two happiest NBA players ever to join a last-place team.

Both guards sounded thrilled to be cleared to play for the Washington Wizards about 1 1/2 hours before tipoff against the reigning champion Boston Celtics on Thursday night.

So what if the Wizards entered the day an Eastern Conference-worst 4-15? If anything, that means the new guys figure to get more playing time than with their former clubs.

“One person’s trash is another person’s treasure,” said James, who was averaging only 8.7 minutes with the Southwest Division-leading New Orleans Hornets. “Hopefully I can be a treasure in D.C.”

James appeared in only eight games with New Orleans this season, but he has been a regular player in the past. He averaged 20.3 points and 5.8 assists for Toronto in 2005-06.

James and Crittenton, who came over from Memphis, were acquired Wednesday as part of a three-team deal in which Washington sent guard Antonio Daniels to the Hornets and returned to the Grizzlies a first-round draft pick that was part of a previous swap.

With All-Star point guard Gilbert Arenas out indefinitely after his third knee operation in 1 1/2 years, Washington was in need of backcourt help.

Like James, Crittenton—a first-round draft pick out of Georgia Tech in 2007—can play either guard position.

Crittenton said he’s more comfortable at the point, but wherever he’s used, he certainly is looking forward to more court time than the 6.7 minutes he was getting in Memphis.

“I feel very blessed to be somewhere where they want me,” Crittenton said. “I feel really appreciated right now.”

The two guards weren’t allowed to participate in Washington’s shootaround Thursday morning, because the trade was not yet official. But they were in uniform and ready to go by game time, both on the active roster.

Crittenton even was given a pair of sneakers in Wizards team colors by Arenas. Asked whether he was worried about notorious jokester Arenas setting him up with some sort of prank, Crittenton smiled.

“I’ve heard about Gil,” Crittenton said, “but I don’t think he’ll do that.”

Wizards interim head coach Ed Tapscott wouldn’t say exactly how he expected to use James and Crittenton against Boston.

He did say he had a plan, however.

“I always have a script for how I expect a game to go,” Tapscott said. “There’s that great line from Mike Tyson: ‘Everybody’s got a plan till they get hit in the mouth.’ And so if you guys see my lip bloodied, now you know whether my plan has any integrity to it.”

i like ed tapscott

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:35 (sixteen years ago)

haha mike james thinks he's gonna play

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:36 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AltYTrQvJVhzJY_.lwcJWpG8vLYF?slug=ap-knicks-mobleyretires&prov=ap&type=lgns

tough break, his game was mad respectable. pistol pete died on my church's basketball court. my dad used to play like 40 years over league with him. anyway

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:41 (sixteen years ago)

i like crittendon

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:41 (sixteen years ago)

yeah he's good

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:43 (sixteen years ago)

in a way i think it's funny that the wiz are so bad - their gm obv caved into fan pressure and resigned the nucleus of a team that could barely get out of the first round of the playoffs (if that) every year. this breakdown was so patently obvious, and i hate to say it, but in 2 years were probably going to be looking back @ gil's career post-contract like grant hill or something

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:43 (sixteen years ago)

it was smart money to sign him, if their plan was to get him as healthy as possible. not saying it wasn't, but that's the bottom line. the other guys, eh

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:46 (sixteen years ago)

The Wiz aren't THAT bad, having dudes as good as Butler and this 2009 +1 version of Jamison is good enough for a respectable record if not a playoff-caliber team. Gil goes down, that sucks, but once that happens that team can absolutely ill-afford Haywood to go out for the year. Without Hayward the Wiz can enjoy 82 games of marshmallowy soft interior defense and ~26 wins.

josephcharles, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:10 (sixteen years ago)

idk to me it just seemed patently obvious that the wiz had a perpetual ceiling of a second round loss (i might've discussed this on ilh before). three guard/forwards can't get it done - the nets dealt with this for years and then got rid of kidd and richardson and i think they are better for it (at the very least they are better for finally moving on). seems like a can't see the forest for the trees situation

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

umm kidd and jefferson

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:14 (sixteen years ago)

nets made it to the finals 2 years in a row fyi

ice cr?m, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:16 (sixteen years ago)

ok ya and got soundly wiped out by the west team - those teams benefited from having kidd in his prime and being a v weak conference. the wiz have no kidd, idk how any fan of them could've been happy with them bringing back the gil/jamison/arenas nucleus especially w/ the rise of the magic, celts, cavs, raptors etc

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:17 (sixteen years ago)

ugh, gil/jamison/butler nucleus

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:18 (sixteen years ago)

With a clear understanding of how bad the team being put out on the floor billed as the 2008-09 WASHINGTON WIZARDS is, I freely admit I really like each member of the Gil/Butler/Jamison/Haywood Wizards

Except Stevenson. FUCK that guy.

josephcharles, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:21 (sixteen years ago)

i like them all too just not together

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:22 (sixteen years ago)

i guess my argument boils down to some faceless espn "analyst" shit - i just don't think a that relies so heavily son scoring guards can get it done when it matters in the playoffs - also they need a pg

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:23 (sixteen years ago)

etan thomas is back guys

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:49 (sixteen years ago)

i think we can put this conversation to rest.

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:50 (sixteen years ago)

meanwhile the lakers got a date with a buzzsaw. so much for defense

pick and roll (tremendoid), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:58 (sixteen years ago)

Dudes I got to watch the Chandler-free Hornets stink up the joint against the C's last night in person (waaaaaay up in the balcony section)!!! C's stunk for the first half, but owned the 2nd half (esp. Pierce in the 3rd quarter)! But my cell phone screen got cracked by my stupid ass seat and/or my fat ass :(

David R., Saturday, 13 December 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

game was pretty sweet. rondo seemed shook by paul and did numerous stupid shit especially in the first half but actually managed to pester him into an off shooting night.

chris paul is the most skilled player in the nba. he doesnt have the size or athleticism of lebron and wade but he makes up for it by just being better at basketball than anyone. dude is a mastermind. if the hornets could pick up another legit scorer or two itd be so crazy to watch.

ice cr?m, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

lebron or wade is 1st/2nd choice for who most fans want on their team. paul has gotta be 1st choice for who players want.

Granny Dainger, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/NBA_article_large.article_large.jpg

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

ice cream otm

teenagers (tremendoid), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

i only caught the 2nd half but paul did seem pretty frustrated. i'd like to get tix for when hornets come to play lolwizards just to see him play.

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

i saw him play in college - one of the most dominating performances i've seen in person. the game was close but he was so obviously on another plane

what.cd invite administrator (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

I see what you mean

josephcharles, Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago)

lol

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 14 December 2008 04:47 (sixteen years ago)

craig sager (eman), Sunday, 14 December 2008 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

Mo Cheeks is gone as coach of the Sixers. Too bad. He's a straight up good guy and no worse a coach than 70% of the NBA coaches. No justice in the world.

Aimless, Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

http://sabermetricresearch.blogspot.com/2008/12/do-nba-general-managers-outperform.html

cankles, Monday, 15 December 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

NBA to air February all-star basketball game in 3D
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/09/AR2008120902935.html

????????

craig sager (eman), Monday, 15 December 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

ok i think i will go to this

ice cr?m, Monday, 15 December 2008 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

how do i find nearest location???

craig sager (eman), Monday, 15 December 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

ok closest is pa >:O http://www.cinedigmentertainment.com/

craig sager (eman), Monday, 15 December 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

park slope pavilion! east coast heads NBA allstar 3D fap?

carne asada, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/23269fe4-96c5-4bd4-9399-576c2bc125d7.jpg

craig sager (eman), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/71d3733a-cafd-4579-8ce0-d7c298d7cef7.jpg

btw rondo pwnd deron last nite

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

daerest basketball,

sorry i have neglected you. will be watching you soon!

missing u boo,

t

rock loop twist down loop twist (tehresa), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u2_daiFa2pQ/SUlh5NVoKiI/AAAAAAAAAks/Mk-kag3zmTw/s1600-h/diagram.jpg

josephcharles, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

there's a lotta buzz abt this game in atlanta!!!!!!!

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

bill walton: "i love the little pretty boys"

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:04 (sixteen years ago)

ich bin ein Hawks fan.

josephcharles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

do hawks have the best player names in nba? othello hunter, zaza pachulia, SPEEDY CLAXTON

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

matt ryan is courtside; he better not be rootin for the celtics

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

oh Zaza!

josephcharles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

doc rivers hit with a t!

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago)

rondo is mad dynamic kid

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

announcer: a lot of hype going into this game and so far its kind of lived up to it!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago)

bill walton: "i love the little pretty boys"

― cankles, Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:04 PM

he just said "6'9" adonises"... ?

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago)

ha why does that rondo behind the back fake work so well - he does it all the time - youd think someone would see it coming

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

def. seems like he's picking up the slack for kg and pierce's off-night or whatever their deal is

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

off-season more like

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

this game is sweet btw love the intensity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

i know, that crowd is hyped

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

hornets/spurs should be entertaining

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

celtics big 3 11-37

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:10 (sixteen years ago)

:3

>:3

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

niiice house suk it bibby

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

mark jackson is full of fucking shit this is a historical ass rivalry, the hawks met the celtics like 4 times in the finals back in the 50s/60s, won their only championship against them too~~~~

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

wtf tony allen

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

we all know flip murray is a big time scorer or rly

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

bibby=assassin

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

haha <3 kg

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/dhcthe.jpg

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago)

yoooooooooooo

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago)

josh smith = beast

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

YAAAAAAAA GET MAD AT THE RIM!!!

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

=0 =0 =0 =0

josephcharles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

whhoa

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

nice shot kg

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago)

yeah that was pimp ~_~

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago)

perkins posterized :( :(

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

johnson for 3 and the win imo

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago)

this fuckin game

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago)

YOW PERK!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

tony allen really?

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

oh that was ray lol

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

>_<

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

haha

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ franz ferdinand

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

can this announcer count

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

ESPN pbp dude can't count apparently.

josephcharles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

what is going on? what fucking retards. ban espn jesus christ

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

rob base "it takes two three (to tie the game)"

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

haha

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

iiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee~~ that was close!!!

josephcharles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

whoa! good game everyone imna go get a burrito now

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago)

jealous

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

this whole rondo is the best player on the celtics now thing is kinda throwing me for a loop - got a chicken mole burrito btw it was goood

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

posey just sunk a clutch 3

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 05:03 (sixteen years ago)

lololololspurs

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

that sequence last night was like josh smith's career in microcosm - turnover, great rebound, fumbles ball in traffic, recovers for amazing dunk, misses free throw, all in 45 seconds. i sorta hate him.

cankles, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

good post abt chris paul stealing an important jump ball last nite http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-37-66/Chris-Paul-s-Crafty-Jump-Ball.html

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

haha

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1218/nba_g_paul2_400.jpg

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

wtf tim dunan up to ???

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

Duncan surpassed 10,000 rebounds for his career during the game, making him the 33rd player in NBA history to do so.

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago)

looks like thinks hes a medieval knight

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

In that pic Paul is standing pigeon-toed.

Aimless, Thursday, 18 December 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

good post abt chris paul stealing an important jump ball last nite http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-37-66/Chris-Paul-s-Crafty-Jump-Ball.html

I saw this live and was like "HOW DID HE DO THAT?"

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 18 December 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

been trying to find video of that

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

never saw a replay, but looked to me like cp did a kung fu type block move, pushing manu's arm out of the way from underneath while simultaneously going for the ball himself. how good is he gonna be once he learns even more tricks of the trade?

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

http://hornetshype.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cp3mvpshirt.jpg

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:57 (sixteen years ago)

this is kinda dope

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

little quick dynamic scorers like cp kill it more than anyone else in hs

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

No doubt in my mind that chris paul is a top ten active player, probably a top five, and likely to stay that way for a long time to come.

Aimless, Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:23 (sixteen years ago)

top 3 at the moment imo

ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

2nded

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

omg I love Inside the NBA so much.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

It is hard for me to look at Matt Bonner and not think he's Brian Scalabrine.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

oh my god Shaq just dunked on Oden like no man has dunked on another man before sweet jesus.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

Something like five possessions in Oden has two huge dunks, an uncharacteristically smooth jump hook, a huge block on Amare and oh yeah that Shaq dunk.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

LOL and now two fouls.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

It is hard for me to look at Matt Bonner and not think he's Brian Scalabrine.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:23 PM

haha i thought the same last nite

craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 04:25 (sixteen years ago)

Whoa Craig Sager doesn't care if its socially acceptable or not he's draped himself in velvet tonight.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

:)

btw heres a glimpse inside d wade's house

http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/f7e85453881ec80452b379f398c415c2.jpg

craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 04:56 (sixteen years ago)

this girl i chilled w/ in high school lives one house over from wade

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

but what happens in that alcove there? does he pray to himself every morning?

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

Oden is good at fouling dudes.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

well to be fair that last call was really awful.

Clay, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

TNT sure making it seem like the rose garden is easily the loudest arena in the NBA.

Clay, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:31 (sixteen years ago)

That's not TNT the Rose Garden gets friggin NUTS in these games.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:34 (sixteen years ago)

As a frequent crowd member I love our eagerness to get really pissed at the refs (despite the refs usually being right when we do).

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

Well yeah, I mean I go to almost every home game and rarely get to see how the crowd translates on TV. Just makes every other crowd in every other game I've watched this year seem absolutely timid.

Clay, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:38 (sixteen years ago)

Oh snap you a Blazers fan?

I am just LOVING this game. Hopefully this comes out better than the ORL game, which was Red River: The Basketball Game.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago)

End 3rd

POSS EFF
PHX 134.8
POR 69 142.0

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 05:44 (sixteen years ago)

this game has been amazing.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 05:59 (sixteen years ago)

jesus christ the suns are 11-15 from 3

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:01 (sixteen years ago)

AMAZING

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

=0 =0 =0 =0 <3 <3 <3 <3

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

It's pretty hard to shoot 58.6% fg, 70.6% 3pt, 86.2% ft as a team and lose a game, but the suns just might!

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:17 (sixteen years ago)

wow @ b. roy's #s

craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ steve nash

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:24 (sixteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/25664ch.jpg

craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:26 (sixteen years ago)

Will be checking DavkaBT religiously until this goes up what a game.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 06:27 (sixteen years ago)

WHOA was unaware of DavkaBT until just now

craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:35 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.tnlcorporation.com/images/about.jpg

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:44 (sixteen years ago)

Dudes who have scored at least 52 on 27 FGA or less

Love those carefully and lovingly chosen stat thresholds, still, it's impressive as hell.

josephcharles, Friday, 19 December 2008 06:52 (sixteen years ago)

wowo brandon roy - when he came into the league i pegged him for a super solid borderline all star type of guy - but hes rapidly approaching mastermind status

ice cr?m, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago)

argh pissed i feel asleep on couch at halftime

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wn0i6d.gif

Clay, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

I had to head off and start a DJ set and missed the fourth quarter of this game btw ;_;

Clay, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

Is there an animated GIF of CWebb throwing his shoes at Barkley's head? because if not, why.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

Well, this will have to do for now:

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

my Bullies gonna get thwacked by C's tonight. I just hope Rondo doesn't completely show up Rose.

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago)

rondo 8/0 asst/to 1st quarter

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

<3 rondo. do not <3 kg (used to, before i was made aware of the fact that he's a major dickhead) and have always disliked pierce so a blowout would be hard to watch

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

do not <3 kg (used to, before i was made aware of the fact that he's a major dickhead)

otm

Clay, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

nice rip, rondo

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:34 (sixteen years ago)

fans turning on garnett is def a theme this season - dont really understand how u can hate one so insane and committed tbh

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:37 (sixteen years ago)

because he's a major dickhead about it?

Clay, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago)

eh its funny people just realizing this now that hes got a ring

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:40 (sixteen years ago)

right well I guess the narrative for so many years about KG was "aw, poor KG, when's he goning to get out of the hell that is McHale's regime in Minnesota and have a chance to win" to "aw, poor rest of the league is getting crushed by this guy and he's sort of smug and we used to like him so much too."

Clay, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:44 (sixteen years ago)

he's taken it to new levels now that he's got the ring
exhibit a:

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:48 (sixteen years ago)

haha no he did shit like that all last season and for all i know all those seasons in minny too - trying to find a clip of him doing that lion crawling thing last year - lol dude is nuts

according to chauncey billups he was that way in high school too

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

shame on me for not realizing it sooner then?

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

perkins has 19 pts!

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

yah i think its just greater scrutiny starting to dawn on people how v strange garnett really is

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:52 (sixteen years ago)

yow insane rondo steps behind the 3pt line to garnett oop

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

Garnett is insane--always has been. If this is a shocka to you you may not know much about the NBA. Pissed that he's trash talking w/Calderon? Spare me, that guy's a bastard too and god love both of them.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

lol Usain Bolt is great.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

“The messed-up thing is that sometimes I do things on the floor that I don’t even remember, and that might have been one of them” (Garnett, after that insane floor-crawling shit last year)

Clay, Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

for further insane celtics related lolz see tony allen talking abt how he blacks out for a few seconds after a sweet dunk

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

celtics toying w/bulls in the third

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

Celtics starting 5 ruining basketball for me forever. They play SO WELL together.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

c's shooting 600000000% tonite

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

i can't say i watched much kg as a twolve, that was during my lol college/post college haze/mj mourning period. gave him a pass cause of chicago connection and insane numbers.

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

wow rondo is DEALING 2nite!

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

Complete meltdown by the Bulls, who with the exception of Rose might be my least favorite NBA team.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

I mean you got lottery pick tenth men like Noah and Thomas, castoffs from the shitty Cavs teams that were not worthy of LeBron, Ben Gordon, Nocioni...doesn't get much worse yo.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago)

i like deng too - i can def see a way forward for the bulls w/those two - but yah agreed the team as a whole is pretty dire

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago)

rondo 30min 15asst 1to 5reb 4stl

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago)

rondo is better right now than i ever thought hed be and hes still got tons room to grow - crazy

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

Rondo's turning into a really really good rebounding guard. Great anticipation and leaping ability in traffic.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

Basically he's the dude you want as your PG if you're playing pickup ball. Makes it fun for everyone else.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago)

Complete meltdown by the Bulls, who with the exception of Rose might be my least favorite NBA team.

Something I can agree with.

Basically he's the dude you want as your PG if you're playing pickup ball. Makes it fun for everyone else.

said exactly this to friends i was watching the game with

btw i forgot the main reason why i used to like kg. attended a game 2 or 3 yrs ago when he was with the wolves, and he impressed me far more than any player i've seen in person (since i was an adult). had floor seat center court via stubhub luck so i was close enough to hear them talk and whatnot. he was basically the only one who didn't goof off at all while getting warmed up (big ben: shooting 3s, KG: perfecting the 'Dream' shake and other post work, hitting that 18ftr from the elbow), appeared to treat other players, refs, his coaches with respect, stayed focused on both ends throughout, played unselfishly, yadda yadda

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 03:25 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I mean he's still that guy. As a Boston fan who has had nothing to look forward to since Reggie Lewis died, you cannot underestimate the impact that KG has had. It was like he showed up in town and a cloud lifted--you would never think one guy could make that kind of difference but it's become clear since then that when you're on KG's team you're held to a different standard than most players.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 03:35 (sixteen years ago)

yah hes basically the coach of the celtics

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

Like, on what other team would Kendrick Perkins have ever turned into a competent (and occasionally creative) passer?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

kg is insane but also lovable as hell and anyone who disagrees should be shot in the face on the white house lawn

cankles, Saturday, 20 December 2008 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

otm

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

totally calling the cops on yous guys

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 December 2008 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

kg is the man

da roll (tremendoid), Saturday, 20 December 2008 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

dam devin harris chrused kidd

da roll (tremendoid), Saturday, 20 December 2008 04:39 (sixteen years ago)

(Harris) was removed for good after his dazzling performance with 2:11 remaining, with fans chanting “Thank you Cuban!”

Clay, Saturday, 20 December 2008 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

guys heat beat lakers ^ . ^

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 20 December 2008 05:59 (sixteen years ago)

xp they were way overdue. i didn't see it, assuming wade went off

da roll (tremendoid), Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:14 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1219/nba_g_wade_576.jpg
hai my naemths dwayne :)

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

Dwyane Wade is so good that THIS happened last night:

C-L, Saturday, 20 December 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago)

lol yeah that ruled.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://i43.tinypic.com/30lgksz.jpg

LIFE

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 December 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

lamar odom more like lamar owned

eman, Saturday, 20 December 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

re: that wade shit. does you guys remember this shot?

usic soulchild (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n6/n31000.jpg

eman, Sunday, 21 December 2008 00:37 (sixteen years ago)

k so c's won 18 in a row now

atlas thugged (m bison), Monday, 22 December 2008 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

rondo is the best basketball player ever now - how does this work ???

ice cr?m, Monday, 22 December 2008 04:10 (sixteen years ago)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/dcpesses/lj/zoltar.jpg

atlas thugged (m bison), Monday, 22 December 2008 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

not sure how i feel abt this - honestly i considered not posting it at all

"Rajon Rondo has been a Brett Favre fan since childhood. Thus, he also is that most silent of pariahs -- a Jets fan in Boston. But however distasteful the task may be, Celtics fans have to give props to the aging quarterback. It apparently was Favre, more than any point guard over the last 15 years, who had an impact on the rugged way Rondo plays his position. 'I grew up watching football and baseball,' said Rondo, a former high school quarterback. 'I didn't know I had hoop dreams. I watched Brett Favre. When I was in third grade they asked us to do a drawing of our favorite team, and I drew the Green Bay Packers -- green and yellow. But my main thing was Brett Favre. So now I'm a Jets fan.' More to the point, Rondo is an NBA point guard who fearlessly throws his body into the paint as if it were a goal line pileup."

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha

eman, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

I mean, if it's Favre that inspires him to play this way, well...it's not MY deal w/the devil now is it?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 15:52 (sixteen years ago)

rajon rondo is having fun

6335, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

ok theres 5 celtics feeds on justin.tv tonight 4 of which are in languages other than english and the fifth has no sound wtf

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago)

reggie evans just airballed a free throw

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

some insane looking celtics fan w/a tattoo on the side of his head loved it so much

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

in spain they call a three pointer THREEEPLAAAAAY

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

RAIHON RHOENDO

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:30 (sixteen years ago)

check out this sweet euro studio dude

http://i40.tinypic.com/mmy4io.jpg

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:34 (sixteen years ago)

jeeeesus I could watch rondo all day.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

yah shit after doing not much for the 1st 19 mins he just spent the last 5 completely owning the sixers

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:43 (sixteen years ago)

the way rr is playing, bos should def repeat

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

just wanna throw a little love eddie house's way--dude plays hard, knows his role, and hits hella jumpers with that weird shooting form.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

quickest release in the league!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:11 (sixteen years ago)

perkins needs love too. 11 reb tonight

eman, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

yah perk is solid / has excellent defensive chemistry w/garnett

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

total nightmare getting to the Rose Garden tonight for game against the Nuggets but all worth it for some fan's homemade sign "THE BIRDMAN IS BIRD-POO"

Clay, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 06:32 (sixteen years ago)

hahaalol

eman, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago)

looks like aldridge had a good night. forgot to watch lakers/hornets but caught a nice reverse slam by kobe in the highlights

eman, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 07:31 (sixteen years ago)

No games today but love Christmas day NBA!

New Orleans @ Orlando 12:00 pm
San Antonio @ Phoenix 2:30 pm
Boston @ L.A. Lakers 5:00 pm
Washington @ Cleveland 8:00 pm

carne asada, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago)

can't wait!

eman, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

ok who the fuck scheduled the wiz

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

lol http://deadspin.com/5117173/nike-and-lebron-to-cover-all-of-cleveland-in-a-fine-white-powder

hip-hop dance instructor (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

that powder shit is such a cheesy mj ripoff ugh

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

pdx vs. dallas that night too btw.

Clay, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

just watched game 4 championship between lakers and c's on nba classic. i forgot how funny mchale looked when he ran. arms like a praying mantis.

eman, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

"I don't know why I started throwing it up," James said. "But it is definitely trademarked."

eman, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

wait why did I not know that Rondo is an avid roller-skater?

Clay, Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago)

=(

eman, Thursday, 25 December 2008 01:06 (sixteen years ago)

he got into it through that t.i. movie - true story

ice cr?m, Thursday, 25 December 2008 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

lol

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Thursday, 25 December 2008 08:25 (sixteen years ago)

the boston busters are about to get served

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Thursday, 25 December 2008 08:27 (sixteen years ago)

they played defense in new orleans. it was pretty nice.

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Thursday, 25 December 2008 08:27 (sixteen years ago)

the lake show i mean, showtime pt. #2

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Thursday, 25 December 2008 08:28 (sixteen years ago)

where is carne dude tell em

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Thursday, 25 December 2008 08:29 (sixteen years ago)

howard is supermanning dat ho(rnets)

eman, Thursday, 25 December 2008 18:47 (sixteen years ago)

terrible day for paul. 4 asts and ZERO STEALS O NOES

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 25 December 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

i blame PAUL BLART MALL COP

johnny crunch, Thursday, 25 December 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

my aunt: "all these basketball players look like obama!"

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

ahahah

choom gangsta (deej), Friday, 26 December 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

lololololol

johnny crunch, Friday, 26 December 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago)

"why is obama acting in the remake of Notorious?"

johnny crunch, Friday, 26 December 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/cf411553-c7be-4f41-a998-5c46d21e3185.jpg

eman, Friday, 26 December 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-12/44235943.jpg

carne asada, Friday, 26 December 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

delonte west needs to stop shooting

hip-hop dance instructor (J0rdan S.), Friday, 26 December 2008 05:14 (sixteen years ago)

that was a tough game - getting pwnt by pau is not a cool experience

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 13:19 (sixteen years ago)

I dvr'd the game but know the outcome. Is it worth watching anyway?

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Friday, 26 December 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

yah it was a good game - v intense

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago)

suns spurs was better tho

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago)

I think it would be really great if right before LeBron does his pregame 'chalk throw' that he puts on a huge Santa's hat, and then throws up cotton balls into the air so that it looks like it is snowing. The kids will be reminded of the goodness of Santa Claus, and it will also allow us to reflect on how LeBron is, in many ways, Santa Claus to the people of Cleveland. He symbolically is going to lift that big sack up onto his back, with the biggest goody of all being a Finals Championship. How all of us will rejoice as we get to unwrap the paper folds of this season and the next each round of the playoffs. What would be really cool would be if LeBron would be allowed to wear the Santa hat for the first quarter, which the league probably wouldn't allow unless the hat had an NBA logo on it and it was for sale in the lobby. But just think about how cool it would be when LeBron gets an open lane to the hoop, and a defender looks out of the corner of his eye and thinks for just a split-second, "Holy S%!#!! Santa Claus is Throwing It Down!!" (to the tune of Santa Claus is Comin' to Town). I think that would be nice, to see LeBron the 6'10" 270 lb Santa throwing it down on the other team and making their fans understand that the REAL Santa lives in Cleveland, and not the North Pole!

longwinded diatribes about the Boredoms via mental telepathy (bernard snowy), Friday, 26 December 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

Was that quote from Ask A Drunk?

Aimless, Friday, 26 December 2008 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

pretty soon lebron is gonna be 7'7"/390 pounds.

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Friday, 26 December 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

he was half a mile tall if he was a foot, i tell ya

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Friday, 26 December 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1226/nba_g_bryant_pierce_kg_600.jpg

eman, Saturday, 27 December 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

The Warriors are beating the Celtics with 6 minutes left...

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

this is GREAT for my fantasy team. go biedrins!!

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago)

actually looks like hes having a pretty shitty game :-/

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:44 (sixteen years ago)

should i go see the spurs or the nets?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:50 (sixteen years ago)

the spurs are the spurs but the nets are more exciting?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:50 (sixteen years ago)

The Warriors are still winning with like 2 minutes left...

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

wtf happened to biedrins -- why was he only in 26 mins?

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:53 (sixteen years ago)

looks like he had foul trouble all game.

Clay, Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

GS 99, BOS 89 (Final)

Clay, Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:08 (sixteen years ago)

Kevin Garnett acted like such a punk at the end of this game. Belinelli kept drawing charges, and I guess Garnett didn't like that, so he resorted to a few cheap hard fouls, but I guess that didn't work, so at the end of the game he was jawing at MARCO FUCKING BELINELLI, who I guess is too Italian to know how to say "scoreboard".

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

the boston bums i call them. they had their day lol

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:15 (sixteen years ago)

sasha 'the machine' vujacic is renting space inside their peanut heads

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

Gangsta state

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:19 (sixteen years ago)

im in shock right now just got home at lookd at scores omg tho im completely not surprised that the celtics arent as good as everyone thought - back to back on the road wtf - celveland i guess has got to be the next to show mortality - this season is srsly strange

ice cr?m, Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:43 (sixteen years ago)

sat a few rows behind Charlotte bench tonight. Spent most of the game just watching larry brown coach. dude is A+ awesome!

carne asada, Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:47 (sixteen years ago)

ice cr?m is killing it with the sports predictions -- plz never predict that the bulls will take it all bro thnx :D

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:05 (sixteen years ago)

u do when predicating like an eagle expose yr self to criticism from hermit crabs who will never soar - of course in this case im not sure what yr even referring to

ice cr?m, Saturday, 27 December 2008 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

I think he's saying that two games early in the season will not decide what happens to the Celtics this year.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 27 December 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

^^ i dunno if he's saying that or not, but that is truth all the same.

but at this point i'm not sure who i enjoy seeing lose more - boston or LA. probably still LA because kobe will always be a douche who i can't cheer for while garnett is a douche that i don't feel too bad about cheering for

6335, Saturday, 27 December 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

garnett is not a douche he's just workshopping some douchey new material

pro-sumer (tremendoid), Sunday, 28 December 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

if it quacks like a duck

6335, Sunday, 28 December 2008 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

Ben Gordon really underrated this year imo

choom gangsta (deej), Sunday, 28 December 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

he's been doing well, yeah, but he still needs to realize what his limitations are. i guess step 1 would be realizing that he does in fact have some.

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 December 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

god, nice 45 point stomping of the kings, boston.

Clay, Monday, 29 December 2008 04:44 (sixteen years ago)

penitence

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 29 December 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

nice

melo returning after arm injury 32pts 9reb 4ast 1stl

eman, Monday, 29 December 2008 06:49 (sixteen years ago)

Friggin sweet no Brandon Roy no problem, tied at 64 going into the 4th on the strength of the weirdest Blazer lineup of the year Blake/Bayless/Outlaw/Oden/Przybilla outscoring Boston 8-2 in the last three minutes of the quarter.

josephcharles, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

I am at this game right now and talk about your playoff atmosphere!

Clay, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

heat/cavs game was fire

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 05:28 (sixteen years ago)

lol Clay liveblogging

¯\㋡/¯ ☜㋡ (eman), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

c's got blazed. wheres Dimension 5ive

¯\㋡/¯ ☜㋡ (eman), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo2/iprefertheremix/tracey.gif

josephcharles, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

Crowd was chanting "garnett sucks" for a good bit of the last two minutes.

Xpost lol on iphone

Clay, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 06:00 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.onenation.dox4.com/

josephcharles, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 08:27 (sixteen years ago)

watched the 4th quarter - wtf up w/the c's they looked rather listless

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

It's a long season.

Aimless, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

i was kinda hoping theyd win every game tho

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

ya that worked out well for the patri... oh :(

¯\㋡/¯ ☜㋡ (eman), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago)

lol not funny

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

xD

¯\㋡/¯ ☜㋡ (eman), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't even realise there were these early games today. damn

carne asada, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

http://nba.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p5545723dt.jpg

ugh, why do these jerseys suck so hard every year.

Clay, Thursday, 1 January 2009 00:40 (sixteen years ago)

tradition

Aimless, Thursday, 1 January 2009 01:45 (sixteen years ago)

Few teams this season will beat the Celtics and lose to the Thunder, but the Warriors are one of them!

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

eh at least those are pretty subdued, unlike some of the horrendous tacky ones of the recent past
xp

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.sportslogos.net/team.php?id=980

i swear they were on some zubaz shit one year

I'm back in love with you, HOS (tremendoid), Thursday, 1 January 2009 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

"In a statement released Wednesday, the league finally admitted the officiating crew of Mike Callahan, Rodney Mott and Zach Zarba erred in its handling of a controversial play during the Celtics 91-86 loss in Portland on Tuesday. A basket by Blazers forward Travis Outlaw was allowed to stand despite Portland having six men on the floor. However, an admission of guilt isn't enough for Doc Rivers, who remained bothered by the inflexibility of the officiating crew. Callahan later said that though Portland was assessed a technical foul, the violation was discovered too late to disallow the basket."

lol

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)

starbury to c's?

:S

eman, Friday, 2 January 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

wtf seriously - its not just his super insaneo cancer status but guy cannot ball at all anymore - which isnt surprising considering his age and style of play

i pretty much dont believe this tbh

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

so this is basically sam cassell pt. 2 then right?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

cassell isnt completely crazy and negative would be the big difference

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

yeah true but i thought everyone hated him last year for always looking for his own shot and basically being washed-up and awful

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

i guess if this happens, everyone is going to be saying the same thing - it's low risk for the celts and if marbury wants to be all selfish and negative garnett and co. are either going to whip him into shape so to speak or they're just going to dump him off the team

all that said i don't see the point of this at all

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

cassell did play horribly w/the exception of like 5 games - but hes pretty fun to have around at least - also apparently pretty much the only person in the world rondo will listen to - so just think of him as the c's rondo coach - wouldnt be surprised to see him retire and become an official coach to free up a roster sport

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

guess the c's are thinking they could use marbury as a combo guard for 10 min a nite which would actually be pretty useful if it worked out

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

Ainge must have calculated that Marbury is smart enough to figure out he needs the C's more than the C's need him, since they are already defending champs. If there is any team Marbury is psychologically ill-equipped to fuck with, it's the Celtics.

Aimless, Friday, 2 January 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

yah and theyll just dump him if he acts out

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

Marbury and Garnett played together in Minnesota for a couple of years, no? Back when Marbury wasn't completely awful.

Alex in SF, Friday, 2 January 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

yah and everyone seems to believe kg was sore at him for bolting - not sure how that factors in here

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

This just seems like having a very high probability of Not Helping, so why bother?

Clay, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

marbury's got the flame weed hookup duh

expletive for lady parts (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 January 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I'm not sure I understand the rationale here at all. What's the best case scenario?

Alex in SF, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

Best case?

Marbury, knowing he has become a well-paid paraiah, and may soon become a poorly paid one, shows up to work for the C's and fakes being concientious. His undoubted talent allows him to come off the bench during the playoffs and give them some valuable minutes with very little fall-off in productivity. Then the C's dump him as soon as they can.

Aimless, Friday, 2 January 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

...and he gets another tattoo on his head

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

a green clover on his forehead

eman, Saturday, 3 January 2009 00:52 (sixteen years ago)

i dont care if they lost - that durant three was http://i5.tinypic.com/4kjzb0z.jpg

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

Ariza is a BIG difference maker on this laker team.

carne asada, Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

The league said Stafford "expressed regret for his use of the word 'boy,' and we are persuaded that he did not use it with the intention of demeaning Vince."

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2009/01/02/carter-stafford-ap-081230.jpg

eman, Saturday, 3 January 2009 06:24 (sixteen years ago)

^ dr. king is smiling down
jhoshea first thing i thought of was that isaiah rider was around for the lakers 2nd title cool out

missile loaded | com mode engaged | its a go | lool (tremendoid), Saturday, 3 January 2009 10:56 (sixteen years ago)

missile loaded | com mode engaged | its a go | lool (tremendoid), Saturday, 3 January 2009 10:59 (sixteen years ago)

lol jr rider good point

btw russell westbrook spent the 1st month of the season being the most insane chucker in the world and now hes actually hitting his shots - check out his october/november splits http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/splits?playerId=3468 - this is shocking progress kid is going to be good - even jeff green is playing well - and of course k durant is evolving into a monster before our eyes - i like ok citys potential

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Saturday, 3 January 2009 13:44 (sixteen years ago)

In a first-person weblog entry this week for the New York Post, Marbury insisted: "I just want to play basketball." But he also wrote: "It's the principle of the whole thing. It's really not about the money, but it's about the money. Feel me?"

eman, Saturday, 3 January 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

ugh that thing in the daily dime about c's being interested in HORRY plz no plz no plz no

eman, Saturday, 3 January 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

the sudden drying up of the mutumbo/pj brown market is pretty disheartening - maybe joe smith will get bought out :/

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Saturday, 3 January 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

i gotta admit i'm not worried about the lakers their defense is coming back veery gradually and i'ma stop hating walton he's bringing them back to the old zazz they had when pau arrived. phil has been masterful in his rotations, i expected farmars abscence to be felt more, he was one of the only ones bringing it for a bunch of games.

missile loaded | com mode engaged | its a go | lool (tremendoid), Sunday, 4 January 2009 07:54 (sixteen years ago)

knicks ahead of celtics by 9 w/8min left

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

lol justin.tv does work for me i wonder what i was thinking baout?

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:09 (sixteen years ago)

niice

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

did i post the article in here about this kid from miami who broadcast his suicide on justin.tv?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

why the fuck is scal in the game X[

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

really angered by knicks this season

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:19 (sixteen years ago)

x1m once they get lebron

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

celtics just not giving a shit at all tonite

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ commentators "this is like grandstanding, keep it in check, dudes."

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:27 (sixteen years ago)

why the fuck is scal in the game X[

― ❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Sunday, January 4, 2009 8:14 PM

they put him in early against wizards too

eman, Monday, 5 January 2009 03:50 (sixteen years ago)

what happened to the celtic's heart?

dan, Monday, 5 January 2009 04:47 (sixteen years ago)

leprechauns don't have hearts, silly.

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Monday, 5 January 2009 06:04 (sixteen years ago)

eh watever. cavs just lost to the fukin wizards too. shit happens to good teams. thankfully not all of them react like

http://i28.tinypic.com/2le56wj.gif

eman, Monday, 5 January 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

http://tinyurl.com/9a379a

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

couple things here guys 1 i always forget its the middle third of the season that sux not the beginning 2 espns.com new design doesnt just start playing loud videos when u go there anymore which is good

jihad¯\㋡/¯ (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

lol why do i always go to nba.com it is difficult!~

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

i went to the heat-spurs game tonight - manu had the sickest block on wade. the spurs are still good btw - roger mason and george hill esp. were hitting hella threes. heat looked good too - wade had an off night but beasley was on it from midrange. only thing is that they're still getting punished down low and the spurs wouldn't let them run

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

"Bobcats surprise Celtics 114-106 in OT" wtf is going ON

Clay, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

yah srsly wtf http://i42.tinypic.com/9u2b75.gif

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

surprise buttsecks

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:04 (sixteen years ago)

jesus celts who are you people lol

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:07 (sixteen years ago)

lol celts and lakers

6335, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:08 (sixteen years ago)

:])

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:21 (sixteen years ago)

they have lost last 5 of 7, is this like that movie dave where the lookalike kevin kline is prez only instead there is a pretend kevin garnett just taunting the other side while losing

the fierce urgency of YAOOOOWWWWWWWW (m bison), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:43 (sixteen years ago)

rondo had 9 (NINE) turnovers

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)

Augustin even talked some trash at the champs' expense.

"They come in and intimidate you and try to punk you," Augustin said. "But if you don't back down from them, they kind of fold."

ouch

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)

lol

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ As Bobcats part-owner Michael Jordan sat courtside and spent much of the game barking at referee Dick Bavetta

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/c393aea3-342a-4af2-816b-d0f8707cb688.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:10 (sixteen years ago)

lol

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/20a0b29b-60c2-4c65-92fd-73f2ac7988d8.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:11 (sixteen years ago)

jordans got his coffee and hes all ready to really get into this game

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

what happened to the lakers tho? is it just that hornets had 2 guys putting up kobe numbers (west had 0 assists btw)

eman, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

eh hornets are good theyll beat laker quality teams from time to time

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)

lol at sean may

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

kobe was on his way to a really ridiculous stat line in terms of shooting percentage last night. then their defense totally broke down and the offense started turning the ball over late in the fourth.

carne asada, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

melo is out again w/ broken hand. bummer imo

eman, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:03 (sixteen years ago)

^ go blazers

Clay, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

hedo is having a solid game tonite

opinions4usic (deej), Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

2 espns.com new design doesnt just start playing loud videos when u go there anymore which is good

― jihad¯\㋡/¯ (ice cr?m), Monday, January 5, 2009 9:12 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

damn this is otm, who the fuck over there decided that was an acceptable state of affairs - siccening

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

haha espn.com is now SFW

eman, Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:24 (sixteen years ago)

haha

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

the amount of times i've been listening to a rap album/song for the first time and absentmindedly logged on to espn.com and thought "what the fuck kinda sample is this" before realizing it was just some sportscenter douche is almost uncountable

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

im watching the heat game in my room and my dad came in right as they showed BIRDMAN on the screen and he goes "what the fuck is that?"

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

lol goddam celtics are fuckin shook ;'(

eman, Thursday, 8 January 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

ncaa fans how to tolerate dickie v? thx in advance

efrem zingalist (tremendoid), Thursday, 8 January 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)

dickie v isnt worse than marc jackson or like tom tolbert or something

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

they need to clone van gundy

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 January 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

he's not worse than tom tolbert good job

efrem zingalist (tremendoid), Thursday, 8 January 2009 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

Is that Raja Bell behind Sean May?

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 9 January 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

ayo ppl gonna watch celts/cavs?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

Do the Blazer's have the world's dumbest executives?

Alex in SF, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:52 (sixteen years ago)

xp - yes, making a beer run now xD

stay classy 'blazers

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

Gilbert wrote: "I fully understand the frustration you and your team's ownership must be feeling in regards to this situation, but a preemptive threat of 'litigation' directed at all of your partners through a group e-mail does not sit well with me and seems to be incongruent with the spirit of keeping a 'fiduciary duty' and good 'partner-like duty' to your 'NBA joint venturers.'"

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

lolz

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

wait why are the cavs dressed as the lakers?

Crab Dribble (Clay), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:15 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ JVG bitchin about how there are "too many throwback nights now"

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

glad i wasn't the only one going wtf at the blue/yellow unis

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)

stu scott raided craig sager's fugly wardrobe for tonite i see

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

is mavs vs suns gonna be worth watching?

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:14 (sixteen years ago)

not sure, i feel like i'm pretty done with both of those teams.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

sad but true.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

as a Celts fan this is at like hair-pulling levels of exasperation.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

I mean normally i hate it when coverage of a game is framed around the best player participating (this is in any sport) but with LBJ it's entirely justified.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

it's been grueling to follow the c's these last few weeks. i need a break.

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

billups lookin good tonite

xhuxk d (deej), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

lebron was definitely ridiculous tonight

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 05:16 (sixteen years ago)

Report: Grizzlies ignore Blazers' threat

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

good for them. fuckers

and yall don't need to worry about any of these laker wins in case you dind't know. opposing teams are jinxed but getting whatever shots they want on the perimeter. lol70's pace tonight playing into indiana's hands, kobe scraped it out, pau abides. it's january

don't make me wait come into my house..........give me body (tremendoid), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:37 (sixteen years ago)

i hope miami gets enough wins to put wade into the mvp discussion later on

don't make me wait come into my house..........give me body (tremendoid), Saturday, 10 January 2009 08:14 (sixteen years ago)

after last nights game im still at kinda a loss to describe whats wrong w/them right now except they seem lethargic - longest nba season ever last year catching up w/3 30+ y/o dudes? standard midseason malaise? who know?

the type of ridic shit lebron does on the regular is pretty amazing to watch - in the fourth when the cavs were starting to pull away he was on a 1 on 2 break when 1 celtic intercepted him above the top of the key forcing him left while the other guy guarded the basket - in one motion lebron spun into the mid post and sunk an off balance 8 foot floater - the truly disturbing thing abt it is it looked so ordinary - the announcers didnt even comment

ice cr?m, Saturday, 10 January 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

^yeah i wonder the same things.

i feel like the c's winning formula relies on a huge level of intensity at both ends of the floor, more than it relies on talent. this intensity is what kg brought last year, and the entire team was able to maintain it through the season b/c of the holy grail quest they were on-- esp the trophy-less big 3. watching them even last year, i rarely got the sense that i was watching an utterly dominant team. despite all the hype around the big 3, i never got the sense that they were super-endowed with talent. they don't have the athleticism of many other teams, and they certainly don't have the likes of kobe or james- players who seem to be able to levitate over the whole thing. even at their best, winning doesn't come easy to them. pierce is emblematic of this to me: he lumbers like a flatfooted tyrannosaurus into the paint, and wills himself into making these epic game seven baskets.

so in that way it does make sense to me that they'd go into this kind of slump. the intensity level of the grail quest can only be kept up so long. take away just a bit of the intensity, take away some of the focus, and you're left with a mortal group of guys trying to live up to their reputation.

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 10 January 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

yah otm - fwiw garnetts been coasting all year - on offense he never goes in to the paint ever - i guess the question is can they run it on again - i gotta think theyll mange to cut out the loosing to shitty teams stat - but well prob have to wait till after the all star break to see if they can really turn it on

they really really need a backup center too

ice cr?m, Saturday, 10 January 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Paul Allen, Man Among Men.

Aimless, Saturday, 10 January 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah you guys are right about Pierce and Garnett but that's essentially always been their games. Pierce in particular has always been ridiculously awkward-looking.

It seems like even more so than last year they're making a conscious decision to keep everyone's minutes down, and the bench has been terrible. But Doc was clearly not gonna run the starters into the ground to try to win either the LA or Cleveland games.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 19:34 (sixteen years ago)

agreed on their bench clearly being a problem

eman, Saturday, 10 January 2009 19:46 (sixteen years ago)

The Memphis Grizzlies have a modest request: Go Fuck Yourself, Portland, Oregon

josephcharles, Sunday, 11 January 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ vujacic

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

heat - lakers game is great right now

also apparently vujacic and phil jackson have been feuding in the papers, according to the heat announcer on fsn

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:19 (sixteen years ago)

heat lakers really is fun--bynum showing lots of post moves, kobe not even letting wade touch the ball

dan, Monday, 12 January 2009 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

good game - heat have looked good recently but they can't fuck with big teams i.e. bynum and gasol

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:42 (sixteen years ago)

they're athletic as fuck tho esp when they have marion, wade, beasley on the floor

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:42 (sixteen years ago)

beasley on that kryptonite

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

14 pts 6-8 from the field in the 4th so far tonight

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

beasley's scored 12 pts in a row for the heat

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

damn wade just ripped kobe and dished it to haslem to dunk for the tie

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:53 (sixteen years ago)

yall sleeping

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:53 (sixteen years ago)

bynum just beasted an offensive put back

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 04:53 (sixteen years ago)

nice effort from the heat.

dan, Monday, 12 January 2009 05:11 (sixteen years ago)

yeah in the old east they could've conceivably made a run but the east is so stacked this year

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

they did kill the cavs the other night tho

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 January 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ BIRDMAN's half court buzzer beater

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 09:53 (sixteen years ago)

also apparently vujacic and phil jackson have been feuding in the papers, according to the heat announcer on fsn

as a hater on both these guys this just sort of brightens my day.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

details plz

eman, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:33 (sixteen years ago)

this is pretty funny
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/vujacic-paul-game-2275045-lakers-bryant

Vujacic’s unique resume that already featured being choked by Carmelo Anthony now includes being called by Paul a five-letter word that starts with “B.”

That’s what Vujacic said Paul called him late in New Orleans’ victory over the Lakers on Tuesday night.

“He called me names on numerous occasions,” Vujacic said.

For yelling back at Paul – even though Vujacic insisted all he said was: “What did you say?!” – Vujacic got a technical foul from referee Joey Crawford. (Then Vujacic got an earful from teammate Kobe Bryant, who was more than a little peeved that this game in which he was so absurdly hot with his shot was slipping away.)

eman, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

is he saying:
a) fuck that, man!
b) the fuck off me!
c) what the fuck man!

eman, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

jshsoh has the answer

rolling playoffs thread

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/12/magz50/f_lakerlanderm_1f4d577.gif

i could watch this forever

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

also apparently vujacic and phil jackson have been feuding in the papers, according to the heat announcer on fsn

not so much a feud because Sasha would get buried tangling with Phil.

"We just had to come to the conclusion that Sasha's just an emotional player that plays by the seat of his pants, and that's about it. He just doesn't have a brain," Jackson said before Friday's game against Indiana. "He's just out there whacking away and working really hard. He's not using his head out there at times. We're working with him, hoping that he will."

Playing off the no-brain theme, a media member asked whether Vujacic needed to see "The Wizard of Oz."

"Maybe he needs to get in that poppy field for a while," Jackson said jokingly

carne asada, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

I love Phil.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

hey the radmonovic lulz seem to have worked, kind of. still rather see walton get the spot when he comes back

don't make me wait come into my house..........give me body (tremendoid), Thursday, 15 January 2009 00:46 (sixteen years ago)

lakers/spurs - who is the lesser of two evils here

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

k i just saw kobe toss down a towel in a fit. go spurs

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

lol this is a good game

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)

lol eman

jordy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:35 (sixteen years ago)

lakers were totally acting like they had it in the bag and they blew it. kobe was even showing off after his 3. looool @ u kobe. good job spurs

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:37 (sixteen years ago)

roger mason is sick in the clutch

jordy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)

haha kobe did the sam cassel testicle dance

jordy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

yup. hope he feels dumb now. he probably too busy chewing out ariza for that tho

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:44 (sixteen years ago)

never seen cassell do that btw (and never want to)

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i havent either but bill simmons talks about it all the time. i feel like ariza would be the one dude on the lakers who would punch kobe in the mouth

jordy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

good game. tough one to lose though.

carne asada, Thursday, 15 January 2009 05:15 (sixteen years ago)

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 07:16 (sixteen years ago)

aww

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

mark cuban wants a medal:

"As far as getting fined, I should get a medal instead. There was a real opportunity for the situation to escalate into something bad. I made it clear to our guys not to retaliate and that I would address it with the officials and the player, which I did," Cuban said Wednesday night in an e-mail to ESPN.com. "The real question is why, given the history of the player involved, the Nuggets and NBA officials didn't have the least bit concern about this situation escalating into something ugly. They are playing it off like throwing elbows away from the play at someone's head is 'just part of the game.' Let's really hope it's not."

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)

he deserves a medal imo for selling a worthless company to yahoo for 5b then using the money to make a public nuisance of himself

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.goldiproductions.com/images/boer/medals/medal_dcmrev.jpg

eman, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

josephcharles, Friday, 16 January 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

Jerryd Bayless is now officially a member National Basketball Association.

josephcharles, Friday, 16 January 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

ha i like that last replay where he's just flyin

eman, Friday, 16 January 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

glad that this thread finally has some mike rice.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

dear hornets, don't wear those bucs unis again its dumb.

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

currently enjoying hubie brown expanding his catalog of pronunciations of "pau gasol" during the magic/lakers game

"pau gasalle" is a new one to me

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Saturday, 17 January 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

dear hornets, don't wear those bucs unis again its dumb.

now you're seeing one of the uglier throwbacks...that we have in the league /hubie

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Saturday, 17 January 2009 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

is jameer nelson a midget

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 05:04 (sixteen years ago)

magic and lakers down to the wire

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

nm its only 3rd qtr lol

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-slowburner.gif

jordy (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 January 2009 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

lakers in two classic games on nat'l tv on back to back nights

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ kobe jacking up hero shots and getting bailed out by pau and odom

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:10 (sixteen years ago)

^^srsly

jameer nelson = small man BIG SHOTS

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:10 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ gasol throwing his arm around howard and acting all smug baout it

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

yah we need pau_technicalfoul.gif straight away

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

beating lakers @ home = PRICELESS

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

bummed_jack_nicholson.jpg

eman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:20 (sixteen years ago)

so the lebrons have the best record now huh? that's pretty great, really!

Crab Dribble (Clay), Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:37 (sixteen years ago)

not for long tho 3/5 starters injured

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 January 2009 13:43 (sixteen years ago)

tho they did just destroy nola

ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 January 2009 13:45 (sixteen years ago)

i should have stayed home and watched hoops all day today

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

seems like the better games are tonight. lakers and cavs should be off the hook

eman, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)

to use 90's parlance

eman, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

i think i might try to watch a ok city game on justin.tv one of these nites - durant and westbrook are destroying the association

ice cr?m, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, cavs vs lakers will be keeping me up late tonight. looking for the lakers to bounce back from a couple of losses in close games

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

i'd like to see them knock the cavs. denver v houston could be good too.

eman, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

LeBron or Kobe? A never-ending debate

i know this shit is tired but what does ILH think?

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

Kobe has got the assassin label, is competitive as anyone on the floor and is still immensely talented. dude can still just go off and dominate a game on both ends and it’s fun to watch.

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

Lebron is just a freakin monster though! bringing it at a high level on a nightly basis. i watch this guy and sometimes think that the court is too small for him.

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

if i were starting a team and had to pick between these two guys,i would have to go Lebron.

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

i feel like lebron might have the edge defensively

eman, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

LeBron >>> Kobe right now. And jesus christ, LeBron is still only 24 years old.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

Updating something from earlier through 38 games:

Season Leaders and Records for Player Efficiency Rating
Rank Player PER Season
1. LeBron James 31.99 2008-09
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.84 1962-63
3. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.76 1961-62
4. Michael Jordan 31.71 1987-88
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.64 1963-64
6. Michael Jordan 31.63 1990-91
7. Michael Jordan 31.19 1989-90
8. Michael Jordan 31.14 1988-89
9. David Robinson 30.66 1993-94
10. Shaquille O'Neal 30.65 1999-00

josephcharles, Monday, 19 January 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=KobeLeBron-090119

if kobe steps up his game playing against stars like wade, does that mean he's not giving 100% the rest of the time, ie. he's not the incredible balls-out competitor everyone says he is?

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

he's fully focused, man

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/kobe.jpg

Crab Dribble (Clay), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

to win a playoff series RIGHT NOW: kobe (the only player i'd be afraid of with the ball, a 2 point game and 15 secs on the clock)

to build a franchise for the next ten years: bron (all he needs is a tiny bit better 3pter and better judgment in the kobe situation above...and he'll go from dominating with athleticism to the jordan brain game in the next 5-6 years and still destroy people)

(seriously, i can see lebron doing stuff like shooting all left-handed like larry in a few years just to keep himself entertained)

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

(and if he spends a summer reading the rest of the rulebook and realizing things like the KRAB DRIBBLE are actually just travelling)

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

the thing about lebron right now is that he still isn't as killer at the end of games. i think he's too passive at times. like i get you don't want to ballhog and shit but i also think you don't want delonte west shooting w/ under three mins left in a game.

i might take wade over both of them for this season tbh

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

basketballop

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

if kobe steps up his game playing against stars like wade, does that mean he's not giving 100% the rest of the time, ie. he's not the incredible balls-out competitor everyone says he is?

nah i think he's just wisely taking it easier this year to save some steam for a long playoffs, and can't help himself but to turn it on now and then- he still takes over some close games even against non-superstar competition

i think he might be trying to send messages as well to intimidate potential playoff opponents...ie look wade can have the regular season highlights but look at the extra gear i'm saving for may and june

basically exactly what he did not have by the finals last year

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

kobe (the only player i'd be afraid of with the ball, a 2 point game and 15 secs on the clock)

yeah,he does instills fear in a lot ballers in a way that lebron doesn't yet.

carne asada, Monday, 19 January 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.openentrance.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/lebron-james-vogue.jpg

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:32 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.faniq.com/blog/Video-LeBron-James-Plays-3-on-3-With-GQ-Magazine-Staff-Blog-17829

i like how bron defers to his teammates here, who are all like 5'9 white journalists.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

phx gettin' told.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

did scalabrine dunk???

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

hm on ch. 3 i could watch

http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/226/wizards-warriors-pc.362722.jpg

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

kobe matching up on lebron defensively

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

haha lebron got denied pretty badly there

i missed what happened to kobe's finger

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

dislocated

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

amare sonned

xhuxk d (deej), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

man was i wrong about lebron's d

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:07 (sixteen years ago)

la and boston both won by 17

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:20 (sixteen years ago)

no one on the cavs can hit an open jumper

jordy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:20 (sixteen years ago)

lakers were up for that game. kobe's D on james was on point tonight.

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:25 (sixteen years ago)

chris paul's buzzer beater today was pretty sick

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:27 (sixteen years ago)

yeah did you see the view from behind the shot? no idea how he got his shoulders squared around to shoot that

jordy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

sickest shot of the night was kobe's rainbow on the baseline when lbj was really trying to d up

jordy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:29 (sixteen years ago)

lol are there people here who actually think kobes better than lebron - if i ever see lebron marginalized in a playoff series the way kobe was in the finals last year ill eat delonte west

and that doesnt even really cover the whole lebron is blatantly better at basketball aspect its just a lil something for the intangibles crowd

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:33 (sixteen years ago)

kobes interesting in that he manages to somehow be simultaneously an alltime great and the most overrated player ever

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:35 (sixteen years ago)

lol are there people here who actually think kobes better than lebron

i don't think it's so clear cut. there are plenty of players in the nba right now that would say kobe is top dawg.and not because he's a good guy,they probably hate him.

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:51 (sixteen years ago)

players can be wrong too - perhaps youve seen some of them work as commentators

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

the one play i remember most from that game was an incredible drive by lebron that left pretty much everyone like "..." even the commentators were speechless and just ooh'd and wow'd

@ 1:37 here

i thought kobe played really well, less ball-hoggin more assists and good plays. maybe he should play injured more often

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)

not being sarcastic, have you seen any laker games this year? the lakers have a lot of glaring issues but his ball-hogging hasn't bene one of them for like two seasons

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

players can be wrong too

well yeah. I'm saying to think it's LOL to even consider kobe on the level of best play in the world is just on some hater shit .

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

its really not - kobe just is not at lebrons level by any measure - hes also not on kobe of three years ago level

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

wade paul and howard have been better than him this year too - but lebron is having a season for the ages

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

look at their supporting casts its comical - if lebron played on this lakers team instead of kobe they prob wouldnt have lost a game yet

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)

u say this stuff all the time but u never bother to make a case beyond just, like, SAYING it

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

i hav made the case a bunch of times fyi its just annoying to have to do a statistical analysis everytime it comes up

but btw how abt this kobes been shut down a bunch of times in the playoffs including the last 2 times hes been in the finals which is kinda weird for someone whos supposed to be the omg greatest

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

basically he has a major weakness in that he can be physically dominated by a determined opponent w/the right personnel and you cant really say that abt the other "great" players of his generation

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)

also never forget lol suns game 7 second half hissy fit - mark of a champion there

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

and driving his meal ticket out of town and being an inhuman sociopath to his teammates etc etc - good thing lakers learned their lesson and didnt trade bynum for lold jason kidd

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

not being sarcastic

:)

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

idk i dont remember u doing a statistical analysis ever, mb u can link me to the posts where u did this

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:17 (sixteen years ago)

maybe yoooo can link 2 them

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

MB U NEVER WROTE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

yah but i dont know where they are \(O_O)/

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

"and driving his meal ticket out of town and being an inhuman sociopath to his teammates etc etc"

You still sound like an idiot about this. I'd also like to point out that prior to finally winning a championship "his meal ticket" got swept out of every single playoff series he'd lost.

FTR I don't think Kobe is better than Lebron, but pointing to couple of bad games and series and cherry-picking the bad ones is pretty stupid.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

hey alex u sound like a idiot all the time fuck you and id like to point out his meal ticket won another ring after getting forced out of la

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

Wow I didn't notice that! Thanks for pointing it out!

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

You seem to take the Kobe stuff awfully personally? Did he do something to you?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

If the case is sealed you can just say so.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

need to get some angry whoppers up in this piece

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

"basically he has a major weakness in that he can be physically dominated by a determined opponent w/the right personnel and you cant really say that abt the other "great" players of his generation"

Really? Who can't you say this about? I can't think of anyone other basically Jordan. Maybe Lebron is getting to that point. Certainly you can say this about Duncan, Shaq, Garnett and Wade.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)

when was that that you saw shaq or duncan physically dominated or forced in bad playoff series in their primes

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

and nobody ever talks abt kobe single handedly losing playoff series for the lakers w/his chucking pre phil

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

Shaq lost six consecutive series in his PRIME by sweeps! Believe me he was not playing all that well during most of them.

I saw Duncan get completely taken apart by the Lakers a number of times! Do you remember the series in '00 at all?

"and nobody ever talks abt kobe single handedly losing playoff series for the lakers w/his chucking pre phil"

Haha did you actually watch any of these series?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

i feel like lebron gets the nod right now over kobe too.

that said i have watched probably about 90% of the games kobe has played in since he came into this league and the moments of greatness displayed on the court are countless and undeniable. to be totally dismissive of anybody considering him the best in the game is delusional.

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

yah ive watched most of the playoffs for years - care to say what series those were that duncan go tooken aprt in xp

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

Anyway who points to the pre-99 Lakers and sez okay Kobe was the whole problem must really love Nick Van Exel a lot is all I can say.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

I just named one. Can't you read?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

the moments of greatness displayed on the court are countless and undeniable.

i think this combined w/him matching some sort of platonic basketball ideal for a lot of people is the main reason kobe is overrated - he does amazing things like score 81 - but other times he shits the bed - people remember the peaks

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)

People always remember the peaks. Just like you can't remember these games:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200105250LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200105270LAL.html

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

like lebron shitting the bed against the lolbulls the other night? xp

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

Like to point out too that HORACE GRANT (who was like six million years old) and ROBERT HORRY were largely responsible for these Duncan stats not a complete freak like Tayshun Prince.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

putting aside all the stuff about him shitting the bed at key moments blublub, what elements of his game do u feel are lacking?

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

o god i dislike u even more for making me do all this math alex but heres duncans averages for that series 23ppg 47%fg 12reb 5asst 4blk 2to

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

not bad imo

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah the result was great. He should have played more like that.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:03 (sixteen years ago)

o jeez i didnt realize it was a one on one thing THE SAN ANTONIO TIM DUNCANS

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

oh but the lakers were a one man team in the finals last year
lol the spurs have gotten shitted on by kobe like almost singlehandedly, it's almost a thing at this point. duncan never got marginalized, fwiw. i guess that's yr point? cool
lebron's defense puts him ahead of kobe by a comfortable margin this year. i was actually surprised how kobe got in wade's jersey a few weeks ago but i don't think his body is even gonna let him do that consistently anymore, and tbh it's not his inclination, he's been coasting (and yes OVERRATED) on defense for a long time; he's never had the 6th sense of anticipation that great defenders just have and w/o the effort he used to put in he's not locking many talented players down period. he's a FAR better playmaker and shooter than lebron, (he's a better basketball player this year than he was even last year much less the offensive freak years ice cream alluded to 3 yrs ago, srsly watch the damn games) lebron is still eclipsing him individually fwiw and that's probably not gonna change ever again and that's life. yr is still on some asinine hater shit and that's life too.

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

putting aside all the stuff about him shitting the bed at key moments blublub, what elements of his game do u feel are lacking?

― ゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:55 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well what i was saying is its not a coincidence hes had those problems in the playoffs because u can put a big quick dude like prince or posey on him and hes never seemed to know how to solve that - then once hes knocked out of his comfort zone he has problems adjusting - weve all seen him freak out abt whether hes supposed to score tons or pass or whatever - hes never seemed comfortable w/his place in the team dynamic

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

Did you look at the box scores of the last two games? HE COMPLETELY SHIT THE BED, MAN! I mean if you are going to cite the second half of a Phoenix Game 7 the Lakers were going to lose anyway you should at least acknowledge that dude got completely taken out of his game that series. Also the stats for Game 2 are deceptive. Lakers played Duncan man-to-man nearly that entire game until the 4th, basically daring him to beat them, and then started double-teaming in the later part of the game. Duncan basically completely disappeared from that point on. That's why they got outscored by 15 in the second half.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

oh but the lakers were a one man team in the finals last year

― spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was talking abt kobes actual performance not just the outcome - he shot 40% for the series and averaged 5tos per game - of course everyone blamed gasol

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

"o jeez i didnt realize it was a one on one thing THE SAN ANTONIO TIM DUNCANS"

So wait it's a one on one thing when it suits you but then it isn't when it doesn't? How confusing.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

zzp kobe kind of turned the corner this year, which is (too?) late in his career but whatever. he'll go to playmaking mode immediately if that's what's called for which wasn't his instinct even last year. i'm not worried about kobe like at all as far as doing what the lakers need for him to do. i just want gasol to keep wearing his braveheart bitter beer face when it matters

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

uh alex my point abt kobe in the second half of that suns game is that hes immature - i would never take a half a game to make a point abt someones basketball career - kobes had a lot of bad playoff series tho

lol yr doing a really poor job of twisting my arguments

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

So wait it's a one on one thing when it suits you but then it isn't when it doesn't? How confusing.

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was talking abt kobes actual performance not just the outcome - he shot 40% for the series and averaged 5tos per game
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do u see the dif here lil buddy

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

kobes had a lot of awesome playoff series tho

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

Your arguments are complete garbage. I mostly just making fun of your ass at this point.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

hey good point!

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)

Seriously if you are going to throw everything at the wall and pray something sticks just keep on going at it, but nothing you've said makes one ounce of sense.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)

another good point yr a clever 1

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)

Great players have bad games (in the playoffs even!) and bad series all the time. Only people with ulterior motives try to blame it on stupid narratives like "Kobe's too immature" or "Duncan's soft" or "Shaq can't win".

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

kobe has had a lot of bad series for reasons relating to specific weaknesses in how he plays basketball AND he is immature

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

do u see how i made that one word big so u can understand ;)

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

"kobe has had a lot of bad series for reasons relating to specific weaknesses in how he plays basketball"

And that specific weakness is apparently that good defensive teams make him play less well. Wow you sure have found his kryptonite all right. Why aren't you coaching in the NBA anyway?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

lebron's leaning banker at about :30 of the vid eman posted, wow

6335, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)

that u for engaging in this conversation w/such insight and wit alex

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)

You make it easy.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

lol u

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

btw wtf is yr argument for why kobe should be considered w/the all timers

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

I think Kobe has pretty consistently been one of the half-dozen best players for the last decade. I think that's enough of an argument.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

ban^

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

I mean outside of Duncan, Garnett and Shaq, I'm not even sure who else is going to be in the argument for 00's.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

xpost haha keep clicking kiddo

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

lebron's leaning banker at about :30 of the vid eman posted, wow

― 6335, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:22 PM

he's gets those shots off the glass more than anyone i've seen probably

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:34 (sixteen years ago)

WOW someone is bored this morning. 3 straight championships including several playoff series he individually DOMINATED archrivals (sac 02, spurs 02 come to mind, portland 03? - note all teams purported to have kobe stoppers), 3 years of being dominique+++ unstoppable offensive force, 1 1/2 years of playing awesome controlled world class team basketball with one very unfortunately timed lapse

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

;)))))) kobe makes that shot all the time! ok yall not hearing

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

i don't watch those games remember?

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

2nd best player on those championship teams btw

but if you look at where this conversation started i called kobe great and a clear 1st ballot hall of famer - i just think its ridiculous that people compare him to jordan and now lebron the 1st player to come anywhere close to actually deserving the jordan comparisons - kobes classic id take shaq and duncan in front of him tho

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

as a person hes pretty gross tho and and itd be hard for me to root for him

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

omg can u imagine how many rings prime shaq and lebron together wouldve won - the rest of the league would just die

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

"i just think its ridiculous that people compare him to jordan and now lebron the 1st player to come anywhere close to actually deserving the jordan comparisons"

I agree. Both of them are statistically better than he is anyway so the argument should just start and end there.

"kobes classic id take shaq and duncan in front of him tho"

Me too (for the same reason as above.) Garnett vs. Kobe would be a little tougher, but I still think I'd go with the former.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

o wtf

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard anyone with half a brain say Kobe is better than Jordan. Lebron's only been in the league what three? four? years. The Jordan talk'll come (esp. if he goes to New York and/or wins a couple of championships.)

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

What's the wtf?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

i don't think 'not jordan' takes anyone down a peg, i can't think of anyone outside of wilt who might deserve it (and that's just dry observation based on stats i'm not sure i trust much more than you do). kobe has never lived up to all his potentials at one time, he's coming closest NOW other than diminishing individual defense and tell u what i'm happy

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

hate kobe, but he's the last person in the league i want to see w/ the ball in his hands and clock running down. lebron seems to have a slightly better all-around game, i just don't think he has that same hatred of losing/will to win that kobe does. at least not yet. idk, i don't see either of these guys play enough to really have a good feel on it

6335, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

i dunno, outside of his slashing lebron's game has always seemed kinda clunky to me, as effective as he is. i'm inclined to blame some of that on the cavs offense. the seeds of haterhood

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

no wait - birth of a hatred

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

"i'm inclined to blame some of that on the cavs offense."

I think you can blame most of it on that.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

lebrons game just isnt that aesthetically pleasing - kobes is tho

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

kobe more fun to play in nba2k

carne asada, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

Haha the best argument for him yet.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

kobe is a graceful sonuvabitch, def

6335, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

when i hear the word aesthetic i reach for mah pistol

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

Funny that was my reaction when I saw KOBLES V. LAYBRON DEBATE.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

I reached for my pistol.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

So that I might shoot it at my brains.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

did u do it?

eman, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

I did not because I feel the only man who could settle this debate is Joey Slotnick and I would like to wait for him to weigh in.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

Can we do biggie vs tupac next

Crab Dribble (Clay), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

"Either you're slingin' rock or you got a wicked jump shot" vs "Jordan couldn't dunk it any harder, pump it any farther
I'm funky, that's word to the father"

eman, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:20 (sixteen years ago)

I'm seeing LeBron @ the Rose Garden tonight btw

Crab Dribble (Clay), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

did he get powder on u

eman, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

Bynum wow.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw camby was out but the domination in the paint was still great. I'm really impressed by the steady improvements Drew has been showing throughout the season, much liek last year before he went down.

carne asada, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

when hes active lakers D is really good - still pretty inconsistent tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

there's no reason why he shouldn't be averaging double digit rebounds, other then the effort isn't there on a nightly basis.

carne asada, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

eh rebounding is a skill too - and one interestingly enough that players tend to not improve on as much as other stats - bynum is 32nd in rebound rate amongst centers so i wouldnt expect tooo much from him in that regard

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, i can agree with that. some dudes just have a nose for the ball and an instinct to be in the right place.

carne asada, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)

i saw great screenshot of a free throw going up and everyone on the court was leaning one way anticipating the rebound except jason kidd who was leaning the other - of course he got the ball

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

my report back is that lebron james is a v v talented basketball player.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

Brandon Roy is what, maybe top 10, probably top 15 level talent in the league? He's been a little off lately, but still. Watching his game last night and watching LeBron's and what you forget is that the gap in ability from a guy like LeBron or Kobe to a guy like Roy is just a huge, huge gap. That difference between all-star and superstar is so huge.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

It is and it's why the NBA salary structure is so twisted.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

east starters: wade, iverson, howard, lebrons, garnett
west starters: kobe, chris paul, yao, duncan, amaré

Crab Dribble (Clay), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:19 (sixteen years ago)

game's gonna be so awesome

jordy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

just glad to see paul beat out mcgrady.

hard for me to believe iverson barely inched out vince carter. it's 2009, nba fans.

Crab Dribble (Clay), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

even worse apparently amare barely beat bruce bowen?!?

who on earth is voting for bruce bowen? even in san antonio?

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

heh vince has actually had a good season, statistically

he's still barely all-star reserve material, his perennial all-star voting is inexplicable...kids raised on nba live in the late 90s or somethign

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

amare is having a pretty shitty year

eh rebounding is a skill too - and one interestingly enough that players tend to not improve on as much as other stats - bynum is 32nd in rebound rate amongst centers so i wouldnt expect tooo much from him in that regard

― ice cr?m, Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:56 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

biedrins

xhuxk d (deej), Friday, 23 January 2009 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

so boston's recovered pretty well -- just knocked orlando

xhuxk d (deej), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it was kind of a weird game. neither team had a very good rhythm. big baby davis ended up taking like 5 jumpers from midrange and beyond and knocked 'em all down.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:46 (sixteen years ago)

that was a good game - boston keeping howard out of the post and single covering him allowed them to guard the 3pt line and not let orlando bomb from downtown as is their want - gotta think if teams have the right personnel ie strong dudes who can keep howard off the block theyll use bostons blueprint against orlando

pierce had a sik game too

ice cr?m, Friday, 23 January 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i feel like orlando is constructed in such a way that they can be had if you defend them right. 2/3 of their frontcourt is about bombing away from the outside and howard is still raw and awkward as an offensive player. the c's also forced jameer nelson into an atrocious game and he is def a difference-maker for orlando.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

playing against rondo isnt fun for anyone - best defensive point in the game

ice cr?m, Friday, 23 January 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

jameer is pretty sick when he's on. needs to chill out on letting that mouth guard hang out his mouth like a pacifier.

ray allen had some great jumpers including one huge fadeaway

eman, Friday, 23 January 2009 04:35 (sixteen years ago)

what are players that are more known by their nicknames than their real name:

1. big baby

eman, Friday, 23 January 2009 04:36 (sixteen years ago)

THE_REAL_SHAQ

xhuxk d (deej), Friday, 23 January 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)

muggsy

eman, Friday, 23 January 2009 05:56 (sixteen years ago)

i came across a pooh richardson mention the other day. he might really be pooh though. heh? heh?

spo0tiful (tremendoid), Friday, 23 January 2009 08:53 (sixteen years ago)

birdman

eman, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

dr. j

eman, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/61053/babymagic_medium.JPG

ice cr?m, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

really good if he continues hitting that shot as he might be all-time bad at scoring in the paint.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

he hit a sweet little jump hook over howard last nite - tho in general his height and lack of jumpablity puts him at a disadvantage in the post - he does have some moves down there tho

ice cr?m, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

the owner of the jazz had both of his legs amputated. :/

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/03/geishanoah.jpg

jelky (jergins), Saturday, 24 January 2009 07:27 (sixteen years ago)

east starters: wade, iverson, howard, lebrons, garnett
west starters: kobe, chris paul, yao, duncan, amaré

― Crab Dribble (Clay), Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:19 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the nba shames itself by not representing the best backcourt in the league (~*ur atlanta hawks*~) in the asg

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

celtis demolishing mavs 64-33 o_O

ice cr?m, Sunday, 25 January 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

xp - blame the fans rite??

eman, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

74/47 @ halftime

ice cr?m, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

The nba has no shame, cankles.

Aimless, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

o abcs abt to drop a paul pierce rags to riches human interest piece on us here everyone

ice cr?m, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

aw was pretty tender

ice cr?m, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)

damn i just got home, missed a PP interview AND this is the score?

what the hell happened to the mavs

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:29 (sixteen years ago)

lol c's 8-0 run 1st 1:30 2nd half

ice cr?m, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:29 (sixteen years ago)

lol dirk is 4-17

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

The Los Angeles Clippers called the league to complain after Odom hung on the rim with one hand and grabbed his crotch with the other after dunking in the fourth quarter of the Lakers' 108-97 victory over the Clippers on Wednesday night.

Clay, Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha

jordy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/9d7ca414-8df4-4813-ae4b-3ed62d519f27.jpg

eman, Monday, 26 January 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)

invisible 'bow-throwing

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Monday, 26 January 2009 13:41 (sixteen years ago)

Is it possible that the W's got the better of the Baron/Maggette semi-swap? Both teams sucks, but at least Corey plays. He's shooting at a pretty decent clip, and has more rebounds per than Ron Artest. His 3pt shooting has been terrible, but otherwise, maybe that wasn't such a horrible move?

The W's have looked a lot better since Monta's been back.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

marbury sez celtics want him

eman, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

would he be a starter? i'm cool with him going to their bench but otherwise

eman, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

C's lookin scary again btw!

carne asada, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

no way he would start; not only is rondo the better player (if not overall at least in terms of defense and understanding the c's system). still don't really want the guy around and i really don't think backup point guard is the first or second biggest need on the team.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

oh the second part of that "not only" is that rondo is a sensitive dude and would freak.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

haah starbury isnt in the same league as rondo - well technically he is but - rondo is prob the best defensive point in the nba and the 2nd best rebounder - he cant shoot but he does get to the hole like a motherfucker - marbury on the other hand is old and insane and really im having a hard time seeing how hes an upgrade over house at the backup spot - maybe they could use him @ the 2 in the right situation?

what the c's really need bad is a backup center

ice cr?m, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

pj brown we miss u come home

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

yah srsly bro whats up???

ice cr?m, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

http://images.wikia.com/openserving/sports/images/7/75/PJ_Brown.jpg

BRO

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

yesss

eman, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

cool guy :)

ice cr?m, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

Mike (Memphis): Chad, The way that pilot landed the plane in the Hudson was phenomenal. If you and Bill Simmons were ever on a plane together in the same situation, I would hope that your pilot would have the same ability to land the plane...right into the middle of an active volcano.

SportsNation Chad Ford: Ummmm... I don't even know how to answer this. You know, we're just sports writers. If you don't like us, don't read us. Wishing death upon us seems a little much Mike.

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)

Charlotte taking the lakers to OT in LA

locally groan (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:03 (sixteen years ago)

OT LAKER FAIL
another nice game for Bynum though 24pts 14reb 6blk

locally groan (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:39 (sixteen years ago)

was that game super-rough or what? ariza out with a concussion and wallace with cracked rib/collapsed lung wtf

eman, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

they were letting them play a bit. bobcats have got their number for reals tho!

locally groan (carne asada), Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:23 (sixteen years ago)

haha "letting them play" an understatement? those are standard injuries for a football game maybe

eman, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

btw eddie house is raining terror down on his third team in four games. now 8/9 on 3pts.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

:D

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/184b6b5f-af6f-4ebc-9a47-dfca28c7f879.jpg

eman, Thursday, 29 January 2009 04:57 (sixteen years ago)

paul and billups hassled each other into pretty shitty games

ice cr?m, Thursday, 29 January 2009 13:00 (sixteen years ago)

West reserves:

F: Pau Gasol, David West, Dirk Nowitzki
C: Shaq
G: Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, Brandon Roy

East reserves:
F: Paul Pierce, Danny Granger, Rashard Lewis.
C: uh Chris Bosh, does that count? Chris Bosh, then.
G: Jameer Nelson, Joe Johnson, Devin Harris.

biggest snubs are West over Al Jefferson and Rashard over Rondo imo. Nobody on the west team with a losing record. Three Magic dudes is getting into overrated territory.

Clay, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

no way jameer nelson should be in over rondo

jordy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 January 2009 00:34 (sixteen years ago)

no big al no credibilityyyyyy

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

no way jameer nelsoniverson should be in over rondoanyone.

Alex in SF, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

this magic/cavs game is a good match-up

eman, Friday, 30 January 2009 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/espnradiostations/i/chicago/lovechild/stanvangundy.jpg

eman, Friday, 30 January 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

magic look good - lol @ cavs blaming about lbj not getting calls

jordy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 January 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)

cavs down by 21 now. nelson just hit a ridiculous 3

eman, Friday, 30 January 2009 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

no ray allen in all-star game is some bulllllshit

eman, Friday, 30 January 2009 03:40 (sixteen years ago)

yeah he is killing j. johnson in FG%, 3PT%, and FT%

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 January 2009 04:04 (sixteen years ago)

David West ugh fucking gross.

josephcharles, Friday, 30 January 2009 04:50 (sixteen years ago)

hornets are losing...LOSING to the warriors

eman, Saturday, 31 January 2009 04:50 (sixteen years ago)

oh shit

there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

bynum just went down

there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:28 (sixteen years ago)

What???

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:39 (sixteen years ago)

What happened?

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:43 (sixteen years ago)

De ja vu all over again! This is fucked! Dude was just starting to kill it this season!!!!

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

karma for punching gerald wallace in the chest

jordy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:52 (sixteen years ago)

Fuck that!

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

xxp his knee, calling it a sprain, x-rays are negative but mri tomorrow. kobe drove in, landed awkwardly on bynum.

there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

the january surge made me superstitious, i was about to post about it yesterday but why jinx them amirite

there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

Dude! I'm saying!

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

right knee this time btw. and the last injury came also against the grizzlies.

there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, 1 February 2009 02:32 (sixteen years ago)

r.i.p.

eman, Sunday, 1 February 2009 08:23 (sixteen years ago)

you bums might get a true rematch. * *pau = tuff enuff* *

there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, 1 February 2009 09:19 (sixteen years ago)

for the sake of this awesomely competitive season i hope hes ok

ice cr?m, Sunday, 1 February 2009 13:03 (sixteen years ago)

twolves u had your fun in january now meet the celtics buzzsaw

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 1 February 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

you bums might get a true rematch. * *pau = tuff enuff* *

― there was zarana (tremendoid), Sunday, February 1, 2009 4:19 AM

chill bumlooker i meant bynum r.i.p. lakers do just fine with or without him

eman, Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

mind blowing to hear about that injury after reading this article earlier in the day.
Andrew Bynum is playing like an All-Star

'He looks very confident in there right now," Lakers Coach Phil Jackson said. "I think this is a stepping-out point for him. He's a better player now than he was when he got hurt last year, but it's taken him (until) this month, January, to get back and feel like, 'OK, I'm over my injury, it was a year ago, and I'm prepared to go forth and put this effort into it,' and he's done a great job.'

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

still no word on the MRI btw.

locally groan (carne asada), Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

^ get one MRI result fuckrs

locally groan (carne asada), Monday, 2 February 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

"Andrew Bynum will be out eight to 12 weeks, meaning the Lakers possibly could begin the playoffs without their starting center."

Sucks.

Alex in SF, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

;_;

locally groan (carne asada), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

lakers: fuckd

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

they can get past the west but any of the 3 east teams are too big/strong to go at w/o a fully functioning center - not saying they absolutely cant do it but their odds just went way down

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

"The Secret of Mihm"

locally groan (carne asada), Monday, 2 February 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

1o1

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

btw this season is so crazy for having 4 ridiculously good teams - la boston orlando and cleveland are all basically playing 800 - and i was just looking at the efficiency stats and theyre the top 4 teams on D and 4 out of the top 5 on offense - THATS NUTS IVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT srsly

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

hawks will smash them all in postseason

welcome to the own zone population you (cankles), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)

bynum + odom = shaq

phoenix is looking to deal

???????????????

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

ew what

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

looool

steve goldberg variations (omar little), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

shaq is killing the league - reunite the 3peat lakers everyone wants it - its a feel good story

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

who should we trade steve nash for?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

get crackin

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

the only way i'd condone is if they mandated that he tweet during the game

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

btw a frontcourt of amare and bynum would be the most retarded thing ever - dunno what i mean by retarded tho

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

shaq is 16th in the nba in per this year come on lakers roooolll the dice

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

that trade for serious would i think make sense if for some reason the lakers thought their window was closing this year

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:14 (sixteen years ago)

is shaq really that good this year?

welcome to the own zone population you (cankles), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

Phill,shaq and Kobe will be together for the allstar game!

locally groan (carne asada), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:16 (sixteen years ago)

there ive just save the lakers season u can thank me later phil jackson

http://i44.tinypic.com/25rckdi.jpg

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)

is shaq really that good this year?

― welcome to the own zone population you (cankles), Monday, February 2, 2009 5:15 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hes been ridic - serious comeback year - problem is he doesnt play that maybe minutes cause hes lol old - not sure if theyre just saving him for the playoffs or if he cant deal or what

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

bam

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ntjwub.png

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

lol trade machine is sweet

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

so sweet

anyway

REUNITE THEE

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ntjwub.jpg

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)

oops

http://i44.tinypic.com/15grtra.png

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

i just guaranteed the lakers a ring

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/lakerssaved.jpg

steve goldberg variations (omar little), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

looool

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

u forgot rondo tho

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ the kobe addendum involving the word "consent"

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

cannot brutally assfuck this player without receiving his consent

ice cr?m, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

protip for l.a.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/lakerswin.jpg

steve goldberg variations (omar little), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

http://i42.tinypic.com/wgq5vs.jpg

failed, huh? idk it looks pretty good from here~~~

welcome to the own zone population you (cankles), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

LOL

eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:39 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/7c4bfd49-a6ae-4278-a8da-d53618e85bce.jpg

Detroit Pistons' Jason Maxiell, left, goes to push Boston Celtics' Kendrick Perkins (43) after Kendrick had fouled Maxiell in the fourth quarter

eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:03 (sixteen years ago)

whoa take it easy there gargamel

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:05 (sixteen years ago)

NO Hornets, at home, up on the Blazers by 20 in the 3rd quarter. Then Chris Paul goes out with pulled groin muscle. Blazers win by 8.

Aimless, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)

phoenix over sacramento by 48 o_O

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

loling @ trade machines

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

Warriors beating the Spurs. W's are so frustrating.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

theyre a decent team just had hella injuries is all

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

prob have a winning record the rest of the way

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

I will bet you one imaginary dollar that they do not.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

chris paul getting injured is >__<

eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:45 (sixteen years ago)

W's pull defeat from the jaws of victory, that's more like it.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 07:41 (sixteen years ago)

ok i accept yr imaginary one dollar wager - the warriors current record is 15-34 - in order for me to collect theyll need to close 17-16 and 33-50 on the season - ITS ON YAAAAAOOOOOWWWWWWWW

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:56 (sixteen years ago)

With luck, CP will still be able to play in the All-Star game. But I doubt it. Groin pulls can get aggravated in a flash if you come back too quickly.

Aimless, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:34 (sixteen years ago)

rrrrggh!!!!

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0203/nba_ga_cpaul_576.jpg

eman, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

dunno who can watch it but there is a hell of a game concluding right now between philly and boston.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

oh HELL ray allen!!!!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

sorry i'm like 3/4 through a bottle of tempranillo but i have to rant for a minute. Ray Allen is a stone cold motherfucker while i feel for Nelson and his injury it was a damn travesty that Ray was not an all-star to begin with.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 02:39 (sixteen years ago)

fuck i love the c's

collardio gelatinous, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)

weird how ray's face in the pic on the right doesn't look like him.

collardio gelatinous, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

its richard jefferson

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

aha! duh.

collardio gelatinous, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

kobe had some dimes today. pau is really solid, dude knows how to play the game. i wont lie lebron wins the msg contest. who u got tomorrow?

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Thursday, 5 February 2009 07:57 (sixteen years ago)

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Thursday, 5 February 2009 08:41 (sixteen years ago)

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Thursday, 5 February 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Thursday, 5 February 2009 08:45 (sixteen years ago)

kobe is unguardable

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:09 (sixteen years ago)

theres pretty much an agreed upon blueprint for guarding him tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

How is this Lakers Celtics game not nationally televised ?

locally groan (carne asada), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)

its on tnt

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)

Oh damn. I missed that.

locally groan (carne asada), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:36 (sixteen years ago)

Have you noticed justinTV broadcast getting shut down lately?

locally groan (carne asada), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

hav u? i havent watched it much recently

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)

Content removed! But then someone else fires up another stream.

locally groan (carne asada), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:43 (sixteen years ago)

wtf tnt why not just give us a high qual stream dudes - espn does

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

Have you noticed justinTV broadcast getting shut down lately?

― locally groan (carne asada), Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:38 AM

i heard about that happening during supperball xxxl

eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

people need to http://www.cbc.ca/searchengine/blog/stop_snitching.jpg on justintv

eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)

Garnett (flu) participated in Thursday morning's shootaround and is expected to play Thursday against the Lakers, though coach Doc Rivers expects him to be at less than full speed, according to the Boston Globe. (Feb 5)

eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0205/nba_g_bryant_576.jpg

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

it's on!

carne asada, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

bring it!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

"Our big fellow Kevin Garnett is back and we need to get ready for a war," said Celtics backup forward Glenn Davis

carne asada, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

WAR!

carne asada, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

TOTAL WAR!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:31 (sixteen years ago)

lol that quote sounds like when they translate japanese baseball player interviews.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

"Hey do you know a good all you can eat buffett near here," said Celtics backup forward Glenn Davis

Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)

Lebron with a 50-point triple double, so I guess no one will remember that Al Harrington dropped 39 points (16 of 24) with 13 rebounds.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:58 (sixteen years ago)

Lebron with a 50-point triple double, so I guess no one will remember that Al Harrington dropped 39 points (16 of 24) with 13 rebounds.

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

http://i41.tinypic.com/xfngv7.jpg

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

http://celticshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/nba_g_bryant_pierce_kg_600-300x300.jpg

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

"Hey do you know a good all you can eat buffett near here," said Celtics backup forward Glenn Davis

― Alex in SF, Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:34 PM

could've gone with

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh," sobbed Celtics backup forward Big Baby Davis

eman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

aw big baby

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

karl malone not helping me enjoy this game

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

malone is super dumb

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:49 (sixteen years ago)

gettin chippy

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

gasol breaking up garnett and odom was pretty funny

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

this G ad campaign is going right over my head

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:58 (sixteen years ago)

it's gat-o-rade

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:58 (sixteen years ago)

yah i know its just those are some bad strange commercials

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

c's missing some shots 2nite

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)

house i luv u

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)

http://cdn.nextsmallthings.com/coolchaser.com/thumb-6117241.jpg

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)

i like the G ad with the crazy dudes in masks, like i'm supposed to know who these dudes is next to muhammed ali and d wade

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:05 (sixteen years ago)

mask guys in the holy grail one too - they fuckin w/us

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

this game is dope

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

lol pierce blowing by kobe.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

paul pierce, some country strong

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

too many fouls

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

totly

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:32 (sixteen years ago)

shooting themselves in the foot

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:33 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.iweeklymagazine.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jabbawockeez.jpg

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:37 (sixteen years ago)

belicheck & biv in DA HOUSE

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)

fuckkkk garnett out

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

that was some bullshit

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:40 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ "look at the big baby"

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:41 (sixteen years ago)

he should totally be referred to as "the big baby"

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

fucking kobe

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

collins otm this lineup does not work

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

yah

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

ha i was just thinking doug collins is right abt something

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:50 (sixteen years ago)

uh oh :x

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:53 (sixteen years ago)

save the shitty, overzealous officiating this has been a good game.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:53 (sixteen years ago)

how about house now, doc?

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

impressed the lakers have played so well in their 5th road game in 7 days

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

NICE love this lineup.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:55 (sixteen years ago)

and it does not pay dividends.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:55 (sixteen years ago)

wtf @ that

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

i hate that hold the ball bullshit - unsurprising it didnt work for either team

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

why can no one guard gasol?

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

yeah gasol has been strong all night, c's got nothing for that hook shot of his

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

theyre letting him get position why i dont know

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

FUCK

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

serious bullshit over the last couple possessions

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

kobe just raped pierce

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

wtf

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:04 (sixteen years ago)

are there any lakers fans on i love hoops? if so thank god they are not around.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:04 (sixteen years ago)

carne asada n tremendiod

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

ray allen replacing nelson in the all-star game btw :) :) :)

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

alex in sf is pretty much a lakers stan

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

good info, thanking u.

and yah way to go ray!

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

ok doug collins stfu abt scal u are completely ignorant and dumb

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

missed it what was he saying?

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

that he was somehow at all useful

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

where the fuck is house

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:09 (sixteen years ago)

well admittedly he was playing better right before the concussion (as opposed to early in the season when he was playing like a 9-inch taller version of me) but yeah scal does not exactly do it as an nba player.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:10 (sixteen years ago)

where the fuck is house

― eman, Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:11 (sixteen years ago)

wish i could text that to doc

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:11 (sixteen years ago)

ouch.

Clay, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:12 (sixteen years ago)

ummm?

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:13 (sixteen years ago)

looks like it should have been a foul on fisher before the shot?

Clay, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

i mean these are the things you only bother to mention in 1-point games but there is no way allen was not fouled if how the game was called to that point matters at all.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

Man do I love it when these teams play each other.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

he totally pushed him as he was trying to square

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

and in conclusion: FUCK. THE. LAKERS.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:15 (sixteen years ago)

whatevs im more mad @ doc 4 that shitty lineup

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:15 (sixteen years ago)

please give me Lakers vs. Celtics in the finals again this year!

carne asada, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

haha

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

belichick jinxed them

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:19 (sixteen years ago)

belichick biv devoe

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:19 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/3a77e842-c198-46d5-9f16-440338189bf4.jpg

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/14c42cb0-4487-434c-a93b-73c3e0dcd35f.jpg

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

im pretty mad at the big baby right now

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)

wow @ kg 0% body fat

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)

he's no Big Baby

carne asada, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:23 (sixteen years ago)

fuckin walton getting too much playing time.

carne asada, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:25 (sixteen years ago)

eddie was hot tonight, leon was hot. big baby was cold. so what's the thinking behind that lineup down the strech?

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

doc was playing this one like a tuesday night game against the nets with tommy and mike on the call. maybe this was wise, maybe it was not.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

thus ends another streak >_<

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:09 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, xp, doc was playing it as though home court where not at stake.

i guess i sympathize with the dilemma though: the c's are missing a big who can come off the bench and score (pj brown), and w/o a mid-season acquisition in the bag, i guess you've got to develop davis...which means testing him in big games.

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

unfortunately playing perk and powe together at the end of the game wouldn't have made any sense, even though powe was playing well. last year they would have gone small with posey when KG fouled out. can't really replicate that this year.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

"alex in sf is pretty much a lakers stan"

I hate myself for it though. I take cold comfort in the fact that at least I am not a celtics stan.

Alex in SF, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

"Ben Wallace was right when he called Mo originally being passed over for the All-Star game a shamockery," Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert said. "But not naming him as the natural and obvious replacement for the unfortunately injured Jameer Nelson is stupidiculous, idillogical and preposterageous."

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

haah

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.camelotventures.com/Partners-Gilbert.php

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

thought that said cameltoeadventures.com for a sec

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

sick game from d-will

6335, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha eman

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/b6riba.jpg

6335, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

LOL'd hard @ that

eman, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

lol did u guys realize the kings are retiring C-WBBS jersey 2nite??????? loloooooool lol

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:10 (sixteen years ago)

i just made a comment along the lines of "i assume it'll be hanging right next to vlade divac's" to my friend, who is a kings fan, and was promptly informed that they actually are retiring vlade's jersey later this month. jesus christ

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:47 (sixteen years ago)

they have to fill those rafters up with something don't they?

carne asada, Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

llolde diflop. kevin johnson finally gave that town something to be proud of. loool

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 February 2009 07:09 (sixteen years ago)

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss51/tr_fudge/22-20117Zydrunas-Ilgauskas-Fathead-.jpg

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 February 2009 08:45 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't know there was basketball fatheads.

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 February 2009 08:47 (sixteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/3260487164_2121f46c61.jpg

sweet celtics/knicks spooky photo stylings http://www.flickr.com/photos/29625530@N08/sets/72157613439223357

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Saturday, 7 February 2009 14:55 (sixteen years ago)

adam morrison traded to lol lakers

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

what a weird trade

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:08 (sixteen years ago)

lol, this anchorwoman on ESPN was like "hey... remember when the lakers got pau gasol about this point last season!" which was totally "lol you are anchoring the saturday afternoon shift on espn news"

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:09 (sixteen years ago)

purely a salary cap move with that trade.radmanovich was getting very little playing time and has been a constant mark for phil's zings.

carne asada, Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:24 (sixteen years ago)

i do like shannon brown in the trade btw

carne asada, Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:35 (sixteen years ago)

couple good games today spurs v celtics and lebron v kobe pt. II

eman, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:33 (sixteen years ago)

bowen just kicked his leg out at pierce. such a piece of shit

eman, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

odom tearing up this third quarter

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

is there a lamer arena than the q?? fricking music every play and the organ w/canned DEFENSE chant every single play

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

BOOMBOOM CLAP x 1000000000

eman, Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

^^http://manniefreshfans.com/files/2008/11/mannie-fresh-pic.jpg

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)

kobe sick shot over lebron

he's literally sick too

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

love how they give odom the mike for every abc game, he's solid entertainment

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

he seems to enjoy playing the game of basketball

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder if Kobe is happier on a team filled with euro dudes. He seems to mesh well with them.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 9 February 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

Filled = two?

Alex in SF, Monday, 9 February 2009 00:09 (sixteen years ago)

they had three til yesterday and kobe is half a euro so id say a oer a quarter of their team is euro plus they got a chinese and an african dude so theyre def pretty overall international and luke walton is gay

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, 9 February 2009 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

hey guys! the lakers are pretty good.

carne asada, Monday, 9 February 2009 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

Man that blazers/knicks joint was wild. Blazers had a 15 point lead in the third, knicks went on a 37-7 run, and led by 13 with about six minutes to go. Then portland came back to win on a Roy layup as time expired. "Basketball is a game of runs," I guess.

Clay, Monday, 9 February 2009 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

"mike diantoni teams kinda make a mockery out of the game of basketball in a good way"

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, 9 February 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I sorta forgot about the d'antoni thing for a good portion of the game. They keep five shooters on the court at all times! What! They just keep putting it up until someone gets hot and they go to that guy until he cools off and then they wait until someone else gets hot. I guess you'll win some games that way but if you're relying on Tim Thomas to drop 16 a game in 2009 you're gonna lost more.

Clay, Monday, 9 February 2009 02:18 (sixteen years ago)

http://img.fannation.com/upload/truth_rumor/photo_upload/730/50/full/mikedantoniknicksMike_Stobe.jpg
jus waitin around 4 lebron...

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, 9 February 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

lol guy two rows down from me with knicks hat, mets jacket and lebron jersey was v ;_; at the game's result

Clay, Monday, 9 February 2009 02:22 (sixteen years ago)

haha that guy "jus waitin around 4 lebron..." too

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, 9 February 2009 02:24 (sixteen years ago)

http://bp1.blogger.com/_aQ1_W-J4jmY/R2bMfisD2LI/AAAAAAAAAKI/t_BSgB7CrV8/s200/statue-of-liberty-crying.jpg

"jus waitin around 4 lebron"

Clay, Monday, 9 February 2009 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

tbh i think dantonis a great coach - the knicks have the worst talent of any team and they dont have anywhere near the worst record - and i dont buy that his style cant win championships - a suspension and an injury less here or there and the suns couldve won it all - aaaand the suns w/their new emphasis on D are actually a worse defensive team than under him - there are just some pretty shitty defenders on that team

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, 9 February 2009 02:32 (sixteen years ago)

AI just made a siiiiick bounce pass. He threw it halfway across the court, through Grant Hills legs, right into the hands of some dude for the easy layup.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 9 February 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

Blazers will def make the playoffs this year. The Blazers had better be very fast learners if they want to advance past round one. I don't yet see the evidence they will, unless Roy just picks them up and carries them bodily over the line.

Aimless, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:11 (sixteen years ago)

kobe sick shot over lebron

― schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Sunday, February 8, 2009 5:51 PM

that shot was ill, literally!

eman, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:17 (sixteen years ago)

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29089856/

carne asada, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

^^controversial

carne asada, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:33 (sixteen years ago)

With 1 shot, Kobe provides hack with story idea

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Monday, 9 February 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

WHAT A GREAT SHOT

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

WOW

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

"I gotta feel good about my lakers"

carne asada, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

i'd rather have bynum back than those two wins of course but yes why sure

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 21:19 (sixteen years ago)

True! The team is showing some toughness and playing hard. And with the way they can put up points that will get it done. Odom, why you tease us like that?

carne asada, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)

yeah where did that come from. hopefully morrison can help spacing and lamar can stay down there, points aside, his rebounding is more consistent and more valuable than whatever he calls himself doing on the perimeter this year. he's not as good facilitating off the block is the only problem.

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

by that i mean his rebounding when he stays down low

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

fucked up
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3894938

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

btw way bigger snub than mo williams ffs

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

tired of hearing about that shit

do th ebred a (tremendoid), Monday, 9 February 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

srsly mo willaims isnt even the 2nd best player on the cavs

ice cr?m, Monday, 9 February 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

^^finally - felt like i was leaving in an alternate universe

nascar jesus (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

well no more bitchin about mo williams, i guess. he's replacing bosh for the east.

Clay, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-090210 hollinger hating on suns, speculating abt amare trade - i pretty much agree w/him only one plus to trading him is that hes prob overvalued right now and maybe not totally worth rebuilding around - tho tbh im not totally sold on that pov - if they do move him they should just blow it up and trade shaq and nash too tho cause those dudes are lol old

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

H-O-R-S-E: Kevin Durant, O.J. Mayo & Joe Johnson

eman, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

xp Yeah but no one wants Shaq so they are kind of fucked there. And Nash is basically the only thing that puts butts in the seats in Phoenix.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

^ kind of underwhelming

xpost to HORSE candidates

Clay, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

fuk u joe johnson ownes

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:31 (sixteen years ago)

joe johnson is rad but he's not the guy i want to see play horse

Clay, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:34 (sixteen years ago)

hell, what do i know, maybe dude is a secret trick shot king

Clay, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

I've never thought about who I'd want to see play HORSE. I guess Kobe and Lebron would be fun to watch, but it'd be fun to watch them play yahtzee.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

that hollinger bit is pretty damning just for the recount of their draft picks. they've needed a backup pg for years and sold off picks that turned into nate robinson *and* rondo! not to mention that rudy fernandez seems he would have been the perfect successor to their sg spot... pop him and barbosa in and watch the 2nd unit run totally wild. so sad how perfectly they've dismantled the ssol era and built a shitty, older version of the mavs or maybe the spurs

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

is chris webber whistling the andy griffith theme a regular thing? shits terrifying

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

cool to see the c's play in posey's new arena. i miss that smooth mofo.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 12 February 2009 03:35 (sixteen years ago)

good game! where you at 6335?

carne asada, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/a3f5b334-5de6-4d35-b393-53258898d24e.jpg

eman, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:16 (sixteen years ago)

get well, ray allen's thumb -_-

eman, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

lol every east team except washington is w/in 5 games of the playoffs - wests only got 9 teams in the hunt

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

dude, crazy game. jazz tried so hard to give that one away!!

6335, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

this game showed pretty well what separates the two squads - everyone on utah bricking ft's in the 4th and even odom is putting down his ft's in the 4th. mental toughness is just not there this year

6335, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:48 (sixteen years ago)

big props to memo for that 3 though, that was a tough shot

6335, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:50 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, a jerry sloan team missing mad free throws? unheard of! good win for the jazz tho.

carne asada, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:50 (sixteen years ago)

i must have a short memory when it comes to that stuff ;_;

6335, Thursday, 12 February 2009 05:02 (sixteen years ago)

i don't see the jazz play too often but i always think of them as a disciplined team.i've got much respect for Sloan as a coach and all.

carne asada, Thursday, 12 February 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

it's been nice to see sloan adapt to a more uptempo game as we got players who wanted to play like that, i wasn't sure if he could do it. there's a decent chance that this'll be the 1st round matchup - hoping bynum, boozer, and AK are all back and healthy by then

6335, Thursday, 12 February 2009 05:30 (sixteen years ago)

whoa eric gordon just posterized the knicks

sure like that kid for whoever trades for him next year

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Thursday, 12 February 2009 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

zach randolph just bitched out steve novak for not catching his 12 foot high cross court pass

clipper roffle

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Thursday, 12 February 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

it's been nice to see sloan adapt to a more uptempo game as we got players who wanted to play like that, i wasn't sure if he could do it. there's a decent chance that this'll be the 1st round matchup - hoping bynum, boozer, and AK are all back and healthy by then

― 6335, Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:30 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jazz could be dangerous if healthy def

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:01 (sixteen years ago)

lol kobe did a cassell ball jugglin dance last night and then memo hit a 3 and followed it w/ this

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/31972/2n0vpxh_jpg.gif

6335, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:20 (sixteen years ago)

ahhaha

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:21 (sixteen years ago)

i love how little effort he puts into it

6335, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:21 (sixteen years ago)

loool

eman, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:40 (sixteen years ago)

0-2 with that bullshit, somehow i think he's gonna be the last one to figure it out

Why We Sag (tremendoid), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

doc rivers just got t'd out the game

eman, Friday, 13 February 2009 04:42 (sixteen years ago)

dick bavetta can suck it

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2009 04:44 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/ap_bavetta_080613_mn.jpg

eman, Friday, 13 February 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

rondo's got a triple-double but they've had 16 turnovers! nowitzki is killing tonight too

eman, Friday, 13 February 2009 04:57 (sixteen years ago)

if i haven't seen dirk for a while i forget how totally impossible it is to guard him.

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2009 05:06 (sixteen years ago)

jesus pierce and dirk....

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

vintage truth down the stretch--he just willed them into the lead.

but the actual lesson of that game is that dallas sucks, and that rondo would average a triple double if he played against Kidd every game.

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2009 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

i have to say, roger mason has singlehandedly restored my faith in the spurs

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 08:12 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3905146

O'Neal/Moon for Marion/Banks

Not sure I completely understand this trade. O'Neal, Marion, and Moon all have contracts expiring this year, so Toronto is now stuck with Marcus Banks for three years at 4.26 per. Why not just keep O'Neal and Moon and let their contracts expire? Are they going to try to re-sign Marion? I don't get it.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

oneal still got a year and a half on his contract - im shocked SHOCKED thats all the heat got for the best expiring contract in the league - a always injured retardedly over paid dinosaur and a good role player

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

idk... who else were they going to flip him for? who actually wants marion?

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

its the expiring contract dummy

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

both are dumping contracts and i guess there is still some hope for o' neal... it was just gonna be a contract dump for a contract dump right?

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, Trade Machine had him with only this year remaining.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

well i guess the raptors threw in moon for the heat taking on that extra year of oneals contract - prob once the heat realized they werent getting stodimire for marion/beasley they decided they wanted to leave their options open for the great free agent bonanza of 2010 and were all fuck it lets pick up this one decent dude and who know maybe oneal will at some point be healthy and serviceable

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

heres where it says hes got two years - which im pretty sure is right since i havent heard anything abt his lol hueg expiring deal http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

im saying - it's pretty well known that they are gonna go hard after boozer. i guess they gotta resign d wade as well

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

miamis got to believe this deal would still be on the table at the deadline - why not wait around for the chance of a gasol to lakers style highway robbery

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

cboooz is a free agent this summer - now they CANT sign him - didnt even think of that angle - makes the whole thing even more wtf

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)

maybe it wasn't? i mean this rumor has been around since... december so im assuming theyve exhausted every potential opportunity. maybe the raps were getting counter offers or something

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

maybe they decided fuck boozer hes always injured

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

ok if he's a FA this summer then i have no idea...

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

maybe riley's just an awful GM - dude did give $30 million dollars to james jones lol wtf

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)

btw joe (and whoever else), simmons trashed beasley in his trade value column, but when i watched dude over xmas break (probably saw like 8 games) i thought he looked pretty good! did esp well @ the lakers. looked like to me a dude who was having a little trouble adjusting to not being the focal point of the offense or a dude who could just dominate down low physically. but he didnt look like a bust to me along the lines that simmons was talking about. confirm/deny plz

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

riley has def as a gm judged guys based on their reps rather than current production - maybe he thinks oneal is still salvageable - everyone laughed at him when he put together that old ass team - then they won the championship

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

lol yah i srsly o_O @ simmons on that one - i think he called him a fraud - wtf that even means - i havent seen beasley play much but its seems stats wise hes having a decent if inconsistent rookie season

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i trust that he knows his shit reasonably well but that didn't vibe w/ what i was thinking at all at all

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

hes really into the whole character guys angle - so having decided beasley is an asshole...

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

well even before that he decided that beasley was going to get ruined by living on south beach, except a. basically no heat players live out on the beach (beasley's fam actually lives out by my parents, his sis goes to my brother's high school, shit is nowhere near the beach) b. beasley hasn't had any incidents at all - seems more to me like he isn't really paying attention

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

btw the whole oj mayo bandwagon is pretty hilarious to me - hes def got a future in the game - but hes basically a crazy amazing jump shooter and nascent lock down defender - he doesnt get to the basket or the line and doesnt rebound or distribute v well - that resume doesnt say future superstar to me

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

he was convinced way before the draft that beasley is derrick coleman ii--a defensible position but one that may need updated. simmons didn't elaborate enough so maybe he knows something or saw something at a clips game.

i wasn't very psyched about anyone in the '08 draft.

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:50 (sixteen years ago)

yr psyched now tho right - what an insane great draft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NBA_Draft

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

A lotta trades this year and this summer will be about balance sheets vs. revenues more than about moving up vs. rebuilding.

Aimless, Friday, 13 February 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

btw heres all the qualified rookies by per

1 Marreese Speights, PHI 21.06
2 Greg Oden, POR 46 17.87
3 Kevin Love, MIN 51 17.70
4 Roy Hibbert, IND 17.48
5 Brook Lopez, NJN 17.05
6 JaVale McGee, WAS 16.97
7 Derrick Rose, CHI 16.12
8 Russell Westbrook, OKC 16.11
9 Marc Gasol, MEM 52 16.09
10 Michael Beasley, MIA 15.67
11 Kosta Koufos, UTH 15.62
12 Anthony Morrow, GSW 15.57
13 Rudy Fernandez, POR 15.55
14 O.J. Mayo, MEM 15.54
15 Anthony Randolph, GSW 15.52
16 D.J. Augustin, CHA 14.45
17 Eric Gordon, LAC 14.44
18 J.J. Hickson, CLE 14.40
19 Jason Thompson, SAC 13.52
20 Mario Chalmers, MIA 13.36
21 Ryan Anderson, NJN 13.05
22 DeAndre Jordan, LAC 12.90
23 George Hill, SAS 12.28
24 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, MIL 11.84
25 Nicolas Batum, POR 11.64
26 Roko Ukic, TOR 45 11.37
27 Courtney Lee, ORL 10.92
28 Jerryd Bayless, POR 10.89
29 Joe Alexander, MIL 10.52
30 Robin Lopez, PHO 10.34
31 Darrell Arthur, MEM 9.65
32 Kyle Weaver, OKC 8.63
33 Bobby Brown, SAC 7.85
34 Brandon Rush, IND 7.38
35 Donte Greene, SAC 6.64
36 Goran Dragic, PHO 6.06

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i should modify/submit less quickly--i wasn't that psyched abt love/beasley/mayo as hyped-up college guys, and wasn't sold on rose (tho that was v. wrong of me). i think that draft is going to produce a lot of solid guys/role players/guys who have good length careers, but maybe only one superstar.

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

Beasley has been okay, and he should be a Sophomore in college right now.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

The fact that Portland has the second youngest NBA roster, with a bunch of players still on their rookie contracts, also means they won't be forced to make money-saving trades for a couple of years. When those rookie contracts expire, they will be making some hard choices about who to pay big bucks to keep them and who to let float away.

Obv Brandon Roy is a keeper by any measure.

Aimless, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

portlands also got lafrentzs expiring contract to deal before the deadline - i havent seen them mentioned as players in the stoudemire sweepstakes but theyve def got the pieces to make it happen

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

I have a hunch they're just going to let LaFrentz's contract expire and keep the savings in house.

Aimless, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

im sure theyre fishing around for some sweet deal but they wont move just for the sake of doing it

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

I have a hunch they're just going to let LaFrentz's contract expire and keep the savings in house.

This is what I would recommend they do. Take the money and extend Aldridge and Roy, or etc.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

One trade that works perfectly straight up is Steve Nash for Raef LaFrentz.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

anything but the suns works for nash imo

eman, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

nash is too old for that team - they need to build for the future

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

i just now saw russell westbrook in action, his hunger reminds me of rook stuckey or jr smith. i think he'll be something. dunno about greatness but lot of solid guys came out of last year

Why We Sag (tremendoid), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

westbrooks improvement over the course of this season and the fact thats hes learning a new position makes me think that hell see some allstar games

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0213/nba_g_thunder1_576.jpg

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

nash is too old for that team - they need to build for the future

Nash's deal expires after next season, and I think it would be wise for them to bring in Nash to mentor Bayless and Rodriguez. Maybe they could move Steve Blake in another deal? Maybe for Brian Cook (Orlando) and a pick?

Or Steve Nash and Al Harrington (expiring 9.2mil) to the Blazers, LaFrentz to Phoenix, Steve Blake and Ike Diogu (expiring 2.9M) to the Knicks? Harrington has worn out his welcome in New York, and Blake would be a great fit for that team in my opinion.

Trade Machine is too fun.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

http://i39.tinypic.com/e0so3t.png

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

haaah

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

i support this trade

http://i42.tinypic.com/2drdqmg.png

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

doooooo ittt

http://i44.tinypic.com/15f5ag4.png

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

the best i could do w/ the knicks

http://i39.tinypic.com/25receb.png

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

hollinger lies the trade for miami http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=HeatRaptorsTrade-090213

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 February 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

hey dudes, as a spurs fan shd i be worried about the vince carter trade rumors? i know hes balling pretty hard this year but can he fit within the spurs system?

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Saturday, 14 February 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

ice cr?m, Saturday, 14 February 2009 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

the day weve all been waiting for michael lewis goes moneyball on basketball http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&pagewanted=all

ice cr?m, Saturday, 14 February 2009 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

When the Kentucky coach Rick Pitino, who had just won a national championship, tried to call Battier outside his assigned time, Battier simply removed Kentucky from his list. “What 17-year-old has the stones to do that?” Wetzel asks. “To just cut off Rick Pitino because he calls outside his window?” Wetzel answers his own question: “It wasn’t like, ‘This is a really interesting 17-year-old.’ It was like, ‘This isn’t real.’ ”

HAW

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Sunday, 15 February 2009 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

liked that article

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 February 2009 02:10 (sixteen years ago)

http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/zach-randolph-happy-valentines-day-card.jpg

<3 u, ilh

Clay, Sunday, 15 February 2009 02:34 (sixteen years ago)

hey joe,

i started the battier article on sat w/ the intention of finishing it later, but now it's subscription only. do u think you could post it itt? thx!

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 February 2009 09:30 (sixteen years ago)

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February 15, 2009
The No-Stats All-Star
By MICHAEL LEWIS

Out of Duke University. . . . A 6-foot-8-inch forward. . . .

He had more or less admitted to me that this part of his job left him cold. ‘It’s the same thing every day,’ he said, as he struggled to explain how a man on the receiving end of the raging love of 18,557 people in a darkened arena could feel nothing. “If you had filet mignon every single night, you’d stop tasting it.”

To him the only pleasure in these sounds — the name of his beloved alma mater, the roar of the crowd — was that they marked the end of the worst part of his game day: the 11 minutes between the end of warm-ups and the introductions. Eleven minutes of horsing around and making small talk with players on the other team. All those players making exaggerated gestures of affection toward one another before the game, who don’t actually know one another, or even want to. “I hate being out on the floor wasting that time,” he said. “I used to try to talk to people, but then I figured out no one actually liked me very much.” Instead of engaging in the pretense that these other professional basketball players actually know and like him, he slips away into the locker room.

Shane Battier!

And up Shane Battier popped, to the howl of the largest crowd ever to watch a basketball game at the Toyota Center in Houston, and jumped playfully into Yao Ming (the center “out of China”). Now, finally, came the best part of his day, when he would be, oddly, most scrutinized and least understood.

Seldom are regular-season games in the N.B.A. easy to get worked up for. Yesterday Battier couldn’t tell me whom the team played three days before. (“The Knicks!” he exclaimed a minute later. “We played the Knicks!”) Tonight, though it was a midweek game in the middle of January, was different. Tonight the Rockets were playing the Los Angeles Lakers, and so Battier would guard Kobe Bryant, the player he says is the most capable of humiliating him. Both Battier and the Rockets’ front office were familiar with the story line. “I’m certain that Kobe is ready to just destroy Shane,” Daryl Morey, the Rockets’ general manager, told me. “Because there’s been story after story about how Shane shut Kobe down the last time.” Last time was March 16, 2008, when the Houston Rockets beat the Lakers to win their 22nd game in a row — the second-longest streak in N.B.A. history. The game drew a huge national television audience, which followed Bryant for his 47 miserable minutes: he shot 11 of 33 from the field and scored 24 points. “A lot of people watched,” Morey said. “Everyone ­watches Kobe when the Lakers play. And so everyone saw Kobe struggling. And so for the first time they saw what we’d been seeing.” Battier has routinely ­guarded the league’s most dangerous offensive players — LeBron James, Chris Paul, Paul Pierce — and has usually managed to render them, if not entirely ineffectual, then a lot less effectual than they normally are. He has done it so quietly that no one really notices what exactly he is up to.

Last season, in a bid to draw some attention to Battier’s defense, the Rockets’ public-relations department would send a staff member to the opponent’s locker room to ask leading questions of whichever superstar Battier had just hamstrung: “Why did you have so much trouble tonight?” “Did he do something to disrupt your game?” According to Battier: “They usually say they had an off night. They think of me as some chump.” He senses that some players actually look forward to being guarded by him. “No one dreads being guarded by me,” he said. Morey confirmed as much: “That’s actually true. But for two reasons: (a) They don’t think anyone can guard them and (b) they really scoff at the notion Shane Battier could guard them. They all think his reputation exceeds his ability.” Even as Battier was being introduced in the arena, Ahmad Rashad was wrapping up his pregame report on NBA TV and saying, “Shane Battier will try to stop Kobe Bryant.” This caused the co-host Gary Payton to laugh and reply, “Ain’t gonna happen,” and the other co-host, Chris Webber, to add, “I think Kobe will score 50, and they’ll win by 19 going away.”

Early on, Hoop Scoop magazine named Shane Battier the fourth-best seventh grader in the United States. When he graduated from Detroit Country Day School in 1997, he received the Naismith Award as the best high-school basketball player in the nation. When he graduated from Duke in 2001, where he won a record-tying 131 college-basketball games, including that year’s N.C.A.A. championship, he received another Naismith Award as the best college basketball player in the nation. He was drafted in the first round by the woeful Memphis Grizzlies, not just a bad basketball team but the one with the worst winning percentage in N.B.A. history — whereupon he was almost instantly dismissed, even by his own franchise, as a lesser talent. The year after Battier joined the Grizzlies, the team’s general manager was fired and the N.B.A. legend Jerry West, a k a the Logo because his silhouette is the official emblem of the N.B.A., took over the team. “From the minute Jerry West got there he was trying to trade me,” Battier says. If West didn’t have any takers, it was in part because Battier seemed limited: most of the other players on the court, and some of the players on the bench, too, were more obviously gifted than he is. “He’s, at best, a marginal N.B.A. athlete,” Morey says.

The Grizzlies went from 23-59 in Battier’s rookie year to 50-32 in his third year, when they made the N.B.A. playoffs, as they did in each of his final three seasons with the team. Before the 2006-7 season, Battier was traded to the Houston Rockets, who had just finished 34-48. In his first season with the Rockets, they finished 52-30, and then, last year, went 55-27 — including one stretch of 22 wins in a row. Only the 1971-2 Los Angeles Lakers have won more games consecutively in the N.B.A. And because of injuries, the Rockets played 11 of those 22 games without their two acknowledged stars, Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming, on the court at the same time; the Rockets player who spent the most time actually playing for the Rockets during the streak was Shane Battier. This year Battier, recovering from off-season surgery to remove bone spurs from an ankle, has played in just over half of the Rockets’ games. That has only highlighted his importance. “This year,” Morey says, “we have been a championship team with him and a bubble playoff team without him.”

Here we have a basketball mystery: a player is widely regarded inside the N.B.A. as, at best, a replaceable cog in a machine driven by superstars. And yet every team he has ever played on has acquired some magical ability to win.

Solving the mystery is somewhere near the heart of Daryl Morey’s job. In 2005, the Houston Rockets’ owner, Leslie Alexander, decided to hire new management for his losing team and went looking specifically for someone willing to rethink the game. “We now have all this data,” Alexander told me. “And we have computers that can analyze that data. And I wanted to use that data in a progressive way. When I hired Daryl, it was because I wanted somebody that was doing more than just looking at players in the normal way. I mean, I’m not even sure we’re playing the game the right way.”

The virus that infected professional baseball in the 1990s, the use of statistics to find new and better ways to value players and strategies, has found its way into every major sport. Not just basketball and football, but also soccer and cricket and rugby and, for all I know, snooker and darts — each one now supports a subculture of smart people who view it not just as a game to be played but as a problem to be solved. Outcomes that seem, after the fact, all but inevitable — of course LeBron James hit that buzzer beater, of course the Pittsburgh Steelers won the Super Bowl — are instead treated as a set of probabilities, even after the fact. The games are games of odds. Like professional card counters, the modern thinkers want to play the odds as efficiently as they can; but of course to play the odds efficiently they must first know the odds. Hence the new statistics, and the quest to acquire new data, and the intense interest in measuring the impact of every little thing a player does on his team’s chances of winning. In its spirit of inquiry, this subculture inside professional basketball is no different from the subculture inside baseball or football or darts. The difference in basketball is that it happens to be the sport that is most like life.

When Alexander, a Wall Street investor, bought the Rockets in 1993, the notion that basketball was awaiting some statistical reformation hadn’t occurred to anyone. At the time, Daryl Morey was at Northwestern University, trying to figure out how to get a job in professional sports and thinking about applying to business schools. He was tall and had played high-school basketball, but otherwise he gave off a quizzical, geeky aura. “A lot of people who are into the new try to hide it,” he says. “With me there was no point.” In the third grade he stumbled upon the work of the baseball writer Bill James — the figure most responsible for the current upheaval in professional sports — and decided that what he really wanted to do with his life was put Jamesian principles into practice. He nursed this ambition through a fairly conventional academic career, which eventually took him to M.I.T.’s Sloan School of Management. There he opted for the entrepreneurial track, not because he actually wanted to be an entrepreneur but because he figured that the only way he would ever be allowed to run a pro-sports franchise was to own one, and the only way he could imagine having enough money to buy one was to create some huge business. “This is the 1990s — there’s no Theo,” Morey says, referring to Theo Epstein, the statistics-minded general manager of the Boston Red Sox. “Sandy Alderson is progressive, but nobody knows it.” Sandy Alderson, then the general manager of the Oakland Athletics, had also read Bill James and begun to usher in the new age of statistical analysis in baseball. “So,” Morey continues, “I just assumed that getting rich was the only way in.” Apart from using it to acquire a pro-sports team, Morey had no exceptional interest in money.

He didn’t need great wealth, as it turned out. After graduating from business school, he went to work for a consulting firm in Boston called Parthenon, where he was tapped in 2001 to advise a group trying to buy the Red Sox. The bid failed, but a related group went and bought the Celtics — and hired Morey to help reorganize the business. In addition to figuring out where to set ticket prices, Morey helped to find a new general manager and new people looking for better ways to value basketball players. The Celtics improved. Leslie Alexander heard whispers that Morey, who was 33, was out in front of those trying to rethink the game, so he hired him to remake the Houston Rockets.

When Morey came to the Rockets, a huge chunk of the team’s allotted payroll — the N.B.A. caps payrolls and taxes teams that exceed them — was committed, for many years to come, to two superstars: Tracy ­McGrady and Yao Ming. Morey had to find ways to improve the Rockets without spending money. “We couldn’t afford another superstar,” he says, “so we went looking for nonsuperstars that we thought were undervalued.” He went looking, essentially, for underpaid players. “That’s the scarce resource in the N.B.A.,” he says. “Not the superstar but the undervalued player.” Sifting the population of midlevel N.B.A. players, he came up with a list of 15, near the top of which was the Memphis Grizzlies’ forward Shane Battier. This perplexed even the man who hired Morey to rethink basketball. “All I knew was Shane’s stats,” Alexander says, “and obviously they weren’t great. He had to sell me. It was hard for me to see it.”

Alexander wasn’t alone. It was, and is, far easier to spot what Battier doesn’t do than what he does. His conventional statistics are unremarkable: he doesn’t score many points, snag many rebounds, block many shots, steal many balls or dish out many assists. On top of that, it is easy to see what he can never do: what points he scores tend to come from jump shots taken immediately after receiving a pass. “That’s the telltale sign of someone who can’t ramp up his offense,” Morey says. “Because you can guard that shot with one player. And until you can’t guard someone with one player, you really haven’t created an offensive situation. Shane can’t create an offensive situation. He needs to be open.” For fun, Morey shows me video of a few rare instances of Battier scoring when he hasn’t ­exactly been open. Some large percentage of them came when he was being guarded by an inferior defender — whereupon Battier backed him down and tossed in a left jump-hook. “This is probably, to be honest with you, his only offensive move,” Morey says. “But look, see how he pump fakes.” Battier indeed pump faked, several times, before he shot over a defender. “He does that because he’s worried about his shot being blocked.” Battier’s weaknesses arise from physical limitations. Or, as Morey puts it, “He can’t dribble, he’s slow and hasn’t got much body control.”

Battier’s game is a weird combination of obvious weaknesses and nearly invisible strengths. When he is on the court, his teammates get better, often a lot better, and his opponents get worse — often a lot worse. He may not grab huge numbers of rebounds, but he has an uncanny ability to improve his teammates’ rebounding. He doesn’t shoot much, but when he does, he takes only the most efficient shots. He also has a knack for getting the ball to teammates who are in a position to do the same, and he commits few turnovers. On defense, although he routinely guards the N.B.A.’s most prolific scorers, he significantly ­reduces their shooting percentages. At the same time he somehow improves the defensive efficiency of his teammates — probably, Morey surmises, by helping them out in all sorts of subtle ways. “I call him Lego,” Morey says. “When he’s on the court, all the pieces start to fit together. And everything that leads to winning that you can get to through intellect instead of innate ability, Shane excels in. I’ll bet he’s in the hundredth percentile of every category.”

There are other things Morey has noticed too, but declines to discuss as there is right now in pro basketball real value to new information, and the Rockets feel they have some. What he will say, however, is that the big challenge on any basketball court is to measure the right things. The five players on any basketball team are far more than the sum of their parts; the Rockets devote a lot of energy to untangling subtle interactions among the team’s elements. To get at this they need something that basketball hasn’t historically supplied: meaningful statistics. For most of its history basketball has measured not so much what is important as what is easy to measure — points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocked shots — and these measurements have warped perceptions of the game. (“Someone created the box score,” Morey says, “and he should be shot.”) How many points a player scores, for example, is no true indication of how much he has helped his team. Another example: if you want to know a player’s value as a ­rebounder, you need to know not whether he got a rebound but the likelihood of the team getting the rebound when a missed shot enters that player’s zone.

There is a tension, peculiar to basketball, between the interests of the team and the interests of the individual. The game continually tempts the people who play it to do things that are not in the interest of the group. On the baseball field, it would be hard for a player to sacrifice his team’s interest for his own. Baseball is an individual sport masquerading as a team one: by doing what’s best for himself, the player nearly always also does what is best for his team. “There is no way to selfishly get across home plate,” as Morey puts it. “If instead of there being a lineup, I could muscle my way to the plate and hit every single time and damage the efficiency of the team — that would be the analogy. Manny Ramirez can’t take at-bats away from David Ortiz. We had a point guard in Boston who refused to pass the ball to a certain guy.” In football the coach has so much control over who gets the ball that selfishness winds up being self-defeating. The players most famous for being selfish — the Dallas Cowboys’ wide receiver Terrell Owens, for instance — are usually not so much selfish as attention seeking. Their sins tend to occur off the field.

It is in basketball where the problems are most likely to be in the game — where the player, in his play, faces choices between maximizing his own perceived self-interest and winning. The choices are sufficiently complex that there is a fair chance he doesn’t fully grasp that he is making them.

Taking a bad shot when you don’t need to is only the most obvious example. A point guard might selfishly give up an open shot for an assist. You can see it happen every night, when he’s racing down court for an open layup, and instead of taking it, he passes it back to a trailing teammate. The teammate usually finishes with some sensational dunk, but the likelihood of scoring nevertheless declined. “The marginal assist is worth more money to the point guard than the marginal point,” Morey says. Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much. Players love the spectacle of a ball being swatted into the fifth row, and it becomes a matter of personal indifference that the other team still gets the ball back. Dikembe Mutombo, Houston’s 42-year-old backup center, famous for blocking shots, “has always been the best in the league in the recovery of the ball after his block,” says Morey, as he begins to make a case for Mutombo’s unselfishness before he stops and laughs. “But even to Dikembe there’s a selfish component. He made his name by doing the finger wag.” The finger wag: Mutombo swats the ball, grabs it, holds it against his hip and wags his finger at the opponent. Not in my house! “And if he doesn’t catch the ball,” Morey says, “he can’t do the finger wag. And he loves the finger wag.” His team of course would be better off if Mutombo didn’t hold onto the ball long enough to do his finger wag. “We’ve had to yell at him: start the break, start the break — then do your finger wag!”

When I ask Morey if he can think of any basketball statistic that can’t benefit a player at the expense of his team, he has to think hard. “Offensive rebounding,” he says, then reverses himself. “But even that can be counterproductive to the team if your job is to get back on defense.” It turns out there is no statistic that a basketball player accumulates that cannot be amassed selfishly. “We think about this deeply whenever we’re talking about contractual incentives,” he says. “We don’t want to incent a guy to do things that hurt the team” — and the amazing thing about basketball is how easy this is to do. “They all maximize what they think they’re being paid for,” he says. He laughs. “It’s a tough environment for a player now because you have a lot of teams starting to think differently. They’ve got to rethink how they’re getting paid.”

Having watched Battier play for the past two and a half years, Morey has come to think of him as an exception: the most abnormally unselfish basketball player he has ever seen. Or rather, the player who seems one step ahead of the analysts, helping the team in all sorts of subtle, hard-to-measure ways that appear to violate his own personal interests. “Our last coach dragged him into a meeting and told him he needed to shoot more,” Morey says. “I’m not sure that that ever happened.” Last season when the Rockets played the San Antonio Spurs Battier was assigned to guard their most dangerous scorer, Manu Ginóbili. Ginóbili comes off the bench, however, and his minutes are not in sync with the minutes of a starter like Battier. Battier privately went to Coach Rick Adelman and told him to bench him and bring him in when Ginóbili entered the game. “No one in the N.B.A. does that,” Morey says. “No one says put me on the bench so I can guard their best scorer all the time.”

One well-known statistic the Rockets’ front office pays attention to is plus-minus, which simply measures what happens to the score when any given player is on the court. In its crude form, plus-minus is hardly perfect: a player who finds himself on the same team with the world’s four best basketball players, and who plays only when they do, will have a plus-minus that looks pretty good, even if it says little about his play. Morey says that he and his staff can adjust for these potential distortions — though he is coy about how they do it — and render plus-minus a useful measure of a player’s effect on a basketball game. A good player might be a plus 3 — that is, his team averages 3 points more per game than its opponent when he is on the floor. In his best season, the superstar point guard Steve Nash was a plus 14.5. At the time of the Lakers game, Battier was a plus 10, which put him in the company of Dwight Howard and Kevin Garnett, both perennial All-Stars. For his career he’s a plus 6. “Plus 6 is enormous,” Morey says. “It’s the difference between 41 wins and 60 wins.” He names a few other players who were a plus 6 last season: Vince Carter, Carmelo Anthony, Tracy McGrady.

As the game against the Lakers started, Morey took his seat, on the aisle, nine rows behind the Rockets’ bench. The odds, on this night, were not good. Houston was playing without its injured superstar, McGrady (who was in the clubhouse watching TV), and its injured best supporting actor, Ron Artest (cheering in street clothes from the bench). The Lakers were staffed by household names. The only Rockets player on the floor with a conspicuous shoe contract was the center Yao Ming — who opened the game by tipping the ball backward. Shane Battier began his game by grabbing it.

Before the Rockets traded for Battier, the front-office analysts obviously studied his value. They knew all sorts of details about his efficiency and his ability to reduce the efficiency of his opponents. They knew, for example, that stars guarded by Battier suddenly lose their shooting touch. What they didn’t know was why. Morey recognized Battier’s effects, but he didn’t know how he achieved them. Two hundred or so basketball games later, he’s the world’s expert on the subject — which he was studying all over again tonight. He pointed out how, instead of grabbing uncertainly for a rebound, for instance, Battier would tip the ball more certainly to a teammate. Guarding a lesser rebounder, Battier would, when the ball was in the air, leave his own man and block out the other team’s best rebounder. “Watch him,” a Houston front-office analyst told me before the game. “When the shot goes up, he’ll go sit on Gasol’s knee.” (Pau Gasol often plays center for the Lakers.) On defense, it was as if Battier had set out to maximize the misery Bryant experiences shooting a basketball, without having his presence recorded in any box score. He blocked the ball when Bryant was taking it from his waist to his chin, for instance, rather than when it was far higher and Bryant was in the act of shooting. “When you watch him,” Morey says, “you see that his whole thing is to stay in front of guys and try to block the player’s vision when he shoots. We didn’t even notice what he was doing until he got here. I wish we could say we did, but we didn’t.”

People often say that Kobe Bryant has no weaknesses to his game, but that’s not really true. Before the game, Battier was given his special package of information. “He’s the only player we give it to,” Morey says. “We can give him this fire hose of data and let him sift. Most players are like golfers. You don’t want them swinging while they’re thinking.” The data essentially broke down the floor into many discrete zones and calculated the odds of Bryant making shots from different places on the court, under different degrees of defensive pressure, in different relationships to other players — how well he scored off screens, off pick-and-rolls, off catch-and-shoots and so on. Battier learns a lot from studying the data on the superstars he is usually assigned to guard. For instance, the numbers show him that Allen Iverson is one of the most efficient scorers in the N.B.A. when he goes to his right; when he goes to his left he kills his team. The Golden State Warriors forward Stephen Jackson is an even stranger case. “Steve Jackson,” Battier says, “is statistically better going to his right, but he loves to go to his left — and goes to his left almost twice as often.” The San Antonio Spurs’ Manu Ginóbili is a statistical freak: he has no imbalance whatsoever in his game — there is no one way to play him that is better than another. He is equally efficient both off the dribble and off the pass, going left and right and from any spot on the floor.

Bryant isn’t like that. He is better at pretty much everything than everyone else, but there are places on the court, and starting points for his shot, that render him less likely to help his team. When he drives to the basket, he is exactly as likely to go to his left as to his right, but when he goes to his left, he is less effective. When he shoots directly after receiving a pass, he is more efficient than when he shoots after dribbling. He’s deadly if he gets into the lane and also if he gets to the baseline; between the two, less so. “The absolute worst thing to do,” Battier says, “is to foul him.” It isn’t that Bryant is an especially good free-throw shooter but that, as Morey puts it, “the foul is the worst result of a defensive play.” One way the Rockets can see which teams think about the game as they do is by identifying those that “try dramatically not to foul.” The ideal outcome, from the Rockets’ statistical point of view, is for Bryant to dribble left and pull up for an 18-foot jump shot; force that to happen often enough and you have to be satisfied with your night. “If he has 40 points on 40 shots, I can live with that,” Battier says. “My job is not to keep him from scoring points but to make him as inefficient as possible.” The court doesn’t have little squares all over it to tell him what percentage Bryant is likely to shoot from any given spot, but it might as well.

The reason the Rockets insist that Battier guard Bryant is his gift for encouraging him into his zones of lowest efficiency. The effect of doing this is astonishing: Bryant doesn’t merely help his team less when Battier guards him than when someone else does. When Bryant is in the game and Battier is on him, the Lakers’ offense is worse than if the N.B.A.’s best player had taken the night off. “The Lakers’ offense should obviously be better with Kobe in,” Morey says. “But if Shane is on him, it isn’t.” A player whom Morey describes as “a marginal N.B.A. athlete” not only guards one of the greatest — and smartest — offensive threats ever to play the game. He renders him a detriment to his team.

And if you knew none of this, you would never guess any of it from watching the game. Bryant was quicker than Battier, so the latter spent much of his time chasing around after him, Keystone Cops-like. Bryant shot early and often, but he looked pretty good from everywhere. On defense, Battier talked to his teammates a lot more than anyone else on the court, but from the stands it was hard to see any point to this. And yet, he swears, there’s a reason to almost all of it: when he decides where to be on the court and what angles to take, he is constantly reminding himself of the odds on the stack of papers he read through an hour earlier as his feet soaked in the whirlpool. “The numbers either refute my thinking or support my thinking,” he says, “and when there’s any question, I trust the numbers. The numbers don’t lie.” Even when the numbers agree with his intuitions, they have an effect. “It’s a subtle difference,” Morey says, “but it has big implications. If you have an intuition of something but no hard evidence to back it up, you might kind of sort of go about putting that intuition into practice, because there’s still some uncertainty if it’s right or wrong.”

Knowing the odds, Battier can pursue an inherently uncertain strategy with total certainty. He can devote himself to a process and disregard the outcome of any given encounter. This is critical because in basketball, as in everything else, luck plays a role, and Battier cannot afford to let it distract him. Only once during the Lakers game did we glimpse a clean, satisfying comparison of the efficient strategy and the inefficient one — that is, an outcome that reflected the odds. Ten feet from the hoop, Bryant got the ball with his back to the basket; with Battier pressing against him, he fell back and missed a 12-foot shot off the front of the rim. Moments earlier, with Battier reclining in the deep soft chair that masquerades as an N.B.A. bench, his teammate Brent Barry found himself in an analogous position. Bryant leaned into Barry, hit a six-foot shot and drew a foul. But this was the exception; normally you don’t get perfect comparisons. You couldn’t see the odds shifting subtly away from the Lakers and toward the Rockets as Bryant was forced from 6 feet out to 12 feet from the basket, or when he had Battier’s hand in his eyes. All you saw were the statistics on the board, and as the seconds ticked off to halftime, the game tied 54-54, Bryant led all scorers with 16 points.

But he required 20 possessions to get them. And he had started moaning to the referees. Bryant is one of the great jawboners in the history of the N.B.A. A major-league baseball player once showed me a slow-motion replay of the Yankees’ third baseman Alex Rodriguez in the batter’s box. Glancing back to see where the catcher has set up is not strictly against baseball’s rules, but it violates the code. A hitter who does it is likely to find the next pitch aimed in the general direction of his eyes. A-Rod, the best hitter in baseball, mastered the art of glancing back by moving not his head, but his eyes, at just the right time. It was like watching a billionaire find some trivial and dubious deduction to take on his tax returns. Why bother? I thought, and then realized: this is the instinct that separates A-Rod from mere stars. Kobe Bryant has the same instinct. Tonight Bryant complained that Battier was grabbing his jersey, Battier was pushing when no one was looking, Battier was committing crimes against humanity. Just before the half ended, Battier took a referee aside and said: “You and I both know Kobe does this all the time. I’m playing him honest. Don’t fall for his stuff.” Moments later, after failing to get a call, Bryant hurled the ball, screamed at the ref and was whistled for a technical foul.

Just after that, the half ended, but not before Battier was tempted by a tiny act of basketball selfishness. The Rockets’ front office has picked up a glitch in Battier’s philanthropic approach to the game: in the final second of any quarter, finding himself with the ball and on the wrong side of the half-court line, Battier refuses to heave it honestly at the basket, in an improbable but not impossible attempt to score. He heaves it disingenuously, and a millisecond after the buzzer sounds. Daryl Morey could think of only one explanation: a miss lowers Battier’s shooting percentage. “I tell him we don’t count heaves in our stats,” Morey says, “but Shane’s smart enough to know that his next team might not be smart enough to take the heaves out.”

Tonight, the ball landed in Battier’s hands milliseconds before the half finished. He moved just slowly enough for the buzzer to sound, heaved the ball the length of the floor and then sprinted to the locker room — having not taken a single shot.

In 1996 a young writer for The Basketball Times named Dan Wetzel thought it might be neat to move into the life of a star high-school basketball ­player and watch up close as big-time basketball colleges recruited him. He picked Shane Battier, and then spent five months trailing him, with growing incredulity. “I’d covered high-school basketball for eight years and talked to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of kids — really every single prominent high-school basketball player in the country,” Wetzel says. “There’s this public perception that they’re all thugs. But they aren’t. A lot of them are really good guys, and some of them are very, very bright. Kobe’s very bright. LeBron’s very bright. But there’s absolutely never been anything like Shane Battier.”

Wetzel watched this kid, inundated with offers of every kind, take charge of an unprincipled process. Battier narrowed his choices to six schools — Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, Duke, Michigan and Michigan State — and told everyone else, politely, to leave him be. He then set out to minimize the degree to which the chosen schools could interfere with his studies; he had a 3.96 G.P.A. and was poised to claim Detroit Country Day School’s headmaster’s cup for best all-around student. He granted each head coach a weekly 15-minute window in which to phone him. These men happened to be among the most famous basketball coaches in the world and the most persistent recruiters, but Battier granted no exceptions. When the Kentucky coach Rick Pitino, who had just won a national championship, tried to call Battier outside his assigned time, Battier simply removed Kentucky from his list. “What 17-year-old has the stones to do that?” Wetzel asks. “To just cut off Rick Pitino because he calls outside his window?” Wetzel answers his own question: “It wasn’t like, ‘This is a really interesting 17-year-old.’ It was like, ‘This isn’t real.’ ”

Battier, even as a teenager, was as shrewd as he was disciplined. The minute he figured out where he was headed, he called a sensational high-school power forward in Peekskill, N.Y., named Elton Brand — and talked him into joining him at Duke. (Brand now plays for the Philadelphia 76ers.) “I thought he’d be the first black president,” Wetzel says. “He was Barack Obama before Barack Obama.”

Last July, as we sat in the library of the Detroit Country Day School, watching, or trying to watch, his March 2008 performance against Kobe Bryant, Battier was much happier instead talking about Obama, both of whose books he had read. (“The first was better than the second,” he said.) He said he hated watching himself play, then proved it by refusing to watch himself play. My every attempt to draw his attention to the action on the video monitor was met by some distraction.

I pointed to his footwork; he pointed to a gorgeous young woman in the stands wearing a ­Battier jersey. (“You don’t see too many good-looking girls with Battier jerseys on,” he said. “It’s usually 12 and under or 60 and over. That’s my demographic.”) I noted the uncanny way in which he got his hand right in front of Bryant’s eyes before a shot; he motioned to his old high school library (“I came in here every day before classes”). He took my excessive interest in this one game as proof of a certain lack of imagination, I’m pretty sure. “I’ve been doing the same thing for seven years,” he said, “and this is the only game anyone wants to talk about. It’s like, Oh, you can play defense?” It grew clear that one reason he didn’t particularly care to watch himself play, apart from the tedium of it, was that he plays the game so self-consciously. Unable to count on the game to properly measure his performance, he learned to do so himself. He had, in some sense, already seen the video. When I finally compelled him to watch, he was knocking the ball out of Bryant’s hands as Bryant raised it from his waist to his chin. “If I get to be commissioner, that will count as a blocked shot,” Battier said. “But it’s nothing. They don’t count it as a blocked shot. I do that at least 30 times a season.”

In the statistically insignificant sample of professional athletes I’ve come to know a bit, two patterns have emerged. The first is, they tell you meaningful things only when you talk to them in places other than where they have been trained to answer questions. It’s pointless, for instance, to ask a basketball player about himself inside his locker room. For a start, he is naked; for another, he’s surrounded by the people he has learned to mistrust, his own teammates. The second pattern is the fact that seemingly trivial events in their childhoods have had huge influence on their careers. A cleanup hitter lives and dies by a swing he perfected when he was 7; a quarterback has a hitch in his throwing motion because he imitated his father. Here, in the Detroit Country Day School library, a few yards from the gym, Battier was back where he became a basketball player. And he was far less interested in what happened between him and Kobe Bryant four months ago than what happened when he was 12.

When he entered Detroit Country Day in seventh grade, he was already conspicuous at 6-foot-4, and a year later he would be 6-foot-7. “Growing up tall was something I got used to,” he said. “I was the kid about whom they always said, ‘Check his birth certificate.’ ” He was also the only kid in school with a black father and a white mother. Oddly enough, the school had just graduated a famous black basketball player, Chris Webber. Webber won three state championships and was named national high-school player of the year. “Chris was a man-child,” says his high school basketball coach, Kurt Keener. “Everyone wanted Shane to be the next Chris Webber, but Shane wasn’t like that.” Battier had never heard of Webber and didn’t understand why, when he took to the Amateur Athletic Union circuit and played with black inner-city kids, he found himself compared unfavorably with Webber: “I kept hearing ‘He’s too soft’ or ‘He’s not an athlete.’ ” His high-school coach was aware of the problems he had when he moved from white high-school games to the black A.A.U. circuit. “I remember trying to add some flair to his game,” Keener says, “but it was like teaching a classical dancer to do hip-hop. I came to the conclusion he didn’t have the ego for it.”

Battier was half-white and half-black, but basketball, it seemed, was either black or white. A small library of Ph.D. theses might usefully be devoted to the reasons for this. For instance, is it a coincidence that many of the things a player does in white basketball to prove his character — take a charge, scramble for a loose ball — are more pleasantly done on a polished wooden floor than they are on inner-city asphalt? Is it easier to “play for the team” when that team is part of some larger institution? At any rate, the inner-city kids with whom he played on the A.A.U. circuit treated Battier like a suburban kid with a white game, and the suburban kids he played with during the regular season treated him like a visitor from the planet where they kept the black people. “On Martin Luther King Day, everyone in class would look at me like I was supposed to know who he was and why he was important,” Battier said. “When we had an official school picture, every other kid was given a comb. I was the only one given a pick.” He was awkward and shy, or as he put it: “I didn’t present well. But I’m in the eighth grade! I’m just trying to fit in!” And yet here he was shuttling between a black world that treated him as white and a white world that treated him as black. ‘‘Everything I’ve done since then is because of what I went through with this,” he said. “What I did is alienate myself from everybody. I’d eat lunch by myself. I’d study by myself. And I sort of lost myself in the game.”

Losing himself in the game meant fitting into the game, and fitting into the game meant meshing so well that he became hard to see. In high school he was almost always the best player on the court, but even then he didn’t embrace the starring role. “He had a tendency to defer,” Keener says. “He had this incredible ability to make everyone around him better. But I had to tell him to be more assertive. The one game we lost his freshman year, it was because he deferred to the seniors.” Even when he was clearly the best player and could have shot the ball at will, he was more interested in his role in the larger unit. But it is a mistake to see in his detachment from self an absence of ego, or ambition, or even desire for attention. When Battier finished telling me the story of this unpleasant period in his life, he said: “Chris Webber won three state championships, the Mr. Basketball Award and the Naismith Award. I won three state championships, Mr. Basketball and the Naismith Awards. All the things they said I wasn’t able to do, when I was in the eighth grade.”

“Who’s they?” I asked.

“Pretty much everyone,” he said.

“White people?”

“No,” he said. “The street.”

As the third quarter began, Battier’s face appeared overhead, on the Jumbotron, where he hammed it up and exhorted the crowd. Throughout the game he was up on the thing more than any other player: plugging teeth-whitening formulas, praising local jewelers, making public-service announcements, telling the fans to make noise. When I mentioned to a Rockets’ staff member that Battier seemed to have far more than his fair share of big-screen appearances, he said, “Probably because he’s the only one who’ll do them.”

I spent the second half with Sam Hinkie, the vice president of basketball operations and the head of basketball analytics in the Rockets’ front office. The game went back and forth. Bryant kept missing more shots than he made. Neither team got much of a lead. More remarkable than the game were Hinkie’s reactions — and it soon became clear that while he obviously wanted the Rockets to win, he was responding to different events on the court than the typical Rockets (or N.B.A.) fan was.

“I care a lot more about what ought to have happened than what actually happens,” said Hinkie, who has an M.B.A. from Stanford. The routine N.B.A. game, he explained, is decided by a tiny percentage of the total points scored. A team scores on average about 100 points a game, but two out of three N.B.A. games are decided by fewer than 6 points — two or three possessions. The effect of this, in his mind, was to raise significantly the importance of every little thing that happened. The Lakers’ Trevor Ariza, who makes 29 percent of his 3-point shots, hit a crazy 3-pointer, and as the crowd moaned, Hinkie was almost distraught. “That Ariza shot, that is really painful,” he said. “Because it’s a near-random event. And it’s a 3-point swing.” When Bryant drove to the basket, instead of being forced to take a jump shot, he said: “That’s three-eighths of a point. These things accumulate.”

In this probabilistic spirit we watched the battle between Battier and Bryant. From Hinkie’s standpoint, it was going extremely well: “With most guys, Shane can kick them from their good zone to bad zone, but with Kobe you’re just picking your poison. It’s the epitome of, Which way do you want to die?” Only the Rockets weren’t dying. Battier had once again turned Bryant into a less-efficient machine of death. Even when the shots dropped, they came from the places on the court where the Rockets’ front office didn’t mind seeing them drop. “That’s all you can do,” Hinkie said, after Bryant sank an 18-footer. “Get him to an inefficient spot and contest.” And then all of a sudden it was 97-95, Lakers, with a bit more than three minutes to play, and someone called timeout. “We’re in it,” Hinkie said, happily. “And some of what happens from here on will be randomness.”

The team with the N.B.A.’s best record was being taken to the wire by Yao Ming and a collection of widely unesteemed players. Moments later, I looked up at the scoreboard:

Bryant: 30.

Battier: 0.

Hinkie followed my gaze and smiled. “I know that doesn’t look good,” he said, referring to the players’ respective point totals. But if Battier wasn’t in there, he went on to say: “we lose by 12. No matter what happens now, none of our coaches will say, ‘If only we could have gotten a little more out of Battier.’ ”

One statistical rule of thumb in basketball is that a team leading by more points than there are minutes left near the end of the game has an 80 percent chance of winning. If your team is down by more than 6 points halfway through the final quarter, and you’re anxious to beat the traffic, you can leave knowing that there is slightly less than a 20 percent chance you’ll miss a victory; on the other hand, if you miss a victory, it will have been an improbable and therefore sensational one. At no point on this night has either team had enough of a lead to set fans, or even Rockets management, to calculating their confidence intervals — but then, with 2:27 to play, the Lakers went up by 4: 99-95. Then they got the ball back. The ball went to Bryant, and Battier shaded him left — into Yao Ming. Bryant dribbled and took the best shot he could, from Battier’s perspective: a long 2-point jump shot, off the dribble, while moving left. He missed, the Rockets ran back the other way, Rafer Alston drove the lane and hit a floater: 99-97, and 1:13 on the clock. The Lakers missed another shot. Alston grabbed the rebound and called timeout with 59 seconds left.

Whatever the Rockets planned went ­instantly wrong, when the inbound pass, as soon as it was caught by the Rockets’ Carl Landry, was swatted away by the Lakers. The ball was loose, bodies flew everywhere.

55 . . . 54 . . . 53 . . .

On the side of the court opposite the melee, Battier froze. The moment he saw that the loose ball was likely to be secured by a teammate — but before it was secured — he sprinted to the corner.

50 . . . 49 . . . 48 . . .

The 3-point shot from the corner is the single most efficient shot in the N.B.A. One way the Rockets can tell if their opponents have taken to analyzing basketball in similar ways as they do is their attitude to the corner 3: the smart teams take a lot of them and seek to prevent their opponents from taking them. In basketball there is only so much you can plan, however, especially at a street-ball moment like this. As it happened, Houston’s Rafer Alston was among the most legendary street-ball players of all time — known as Skip 2 My Lou, a nickname he received after a single spectacular move at Rucker Park, in Harlem. “Shane wouldn’t last in street ball because in street ball no one wants to see” his game, Alston told me earlier. “You better give us something to ooh and ahh about. No one cares about someone who took a charge.”

The Rockets’ offense had broken down, and there was no usual place for Alston, still back near the half-court line, to go with the ball. The Lakers’ defense had also broken down; no player was where he was meant to be. The only person exactly where he should have been — wide open, standing at the most efficient spot on the floor from which to shoot — was Shane Battier. When Daryl Morey spoke of basketball intelligence, a phrase slipped out: “the I.Q. of where to be.” Fitting in on a basketball court, in the way Battier fits in, requires the I.Q. of where to be. Bang: Alston hit Battier with a long pass. Bang: Battier shot the 3, guiltlessly. Nothing but net.

Rockets 100, Lakers 99.

43 . . . 42 . . . 41 . . .

At this moment, the Rockets’ front office would later calculate, the team’s chances of winning rose from 19.2 percent to 72.6 percent. One day some smart person will study the correlation between shifts in probabilities and levels of noise, but for now the crowd was ignorantly berserk: it sounded indeed like the largest crowd in the history of Houston’s Toyota Center. Bryant got the ball at half-court and dribbled idly, searching for his opening. This was his moment, the one great players are said to live for, when everyone knows he’s going to take the shot, and he takes it anyway. On the other end of the floor it wasn’t the shooter who mattered but the shot. Now the shot was nothing, the shooter everything.

33 . . . 32 . . . 31 . . .

Bryant — 12 for 31 on the night — took off and drove to the right, his strength, in the middle of the lane. Battier cut him off. Bryant tossed the ball back out to Derek Fisher, out of shooting range.

30 . . . 29 . . .

Like everyone else in the place, Battier assumed that the game was still in Bryant’s hands. If he gave the ball up, it was only so that he might get it back. Bryant popped out. He was now a good four feet beyond the 3-point line, or nearly 30 feet from the basket.

28 . . .

Bryant caught the ball and, 27.4 feet from the basket, the Rockets’ front office would later determine, leapt. Instantly his view of that basket was blocked by Battier’s hand. This was not an original situation. Since the 2002-3 season, Bryant had taken 51 3-pointers at the very end of close games from farther than 26.75 feet from the basket. He had missed 86.3 percent of them. A little over a year ago the Lakers lost to the Cleveland Cavaliers after Bryant missed a 3 from 28.4 feet. Three nights from now the Lakers would lose to the Orlando Magic after Bryant missed a shot from 27.5 feet that would have tied the game. It was a shot Battier could live with, even if it turned out to be good.

Battier looked back to see the ball drop through the basket and hit the floor. In that brief moment he was the picture of detachment, less a party to a traffic accident than a curious passer-by. And then he laughed. The process had gone just as he hoped. The outcome he never could control.

Michael Lewis is the author of “Moneyball” and a contributing editor for Vanity Fair. His next book, “Home Game,” a memoir about fatherhood, will be published in June.

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Sunday, 15 February 2009 09:47 (sixteen years ago)

probably a lot of bullshit in there, but still an awesome super readable lil thang imo

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Sunday, 15 February 2009 09:47 (sixteen years ago)

ay sarge nytimes subscriptions are free just sign up or http://www.bugmenot.com/view/nytimes.com fyi

ice cr?m, Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:23 (sixteen years ago)

hey dudes, as a spurs fan shd i be worried about the vince carter trade rumors? i know hes balling pretty hard this year but can he fit within the spurs system?

― Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Saturday, February 14, 2009 5:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if they can get carter w/o moving one of their big three itd put them in championship contention imo - and they dont have to really sweat the fact that hell be old and useless by the end of his contract since their whole team is aging and theyre pretty much in a win now type scenario anyhow

ice cr?m, Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:26 (sixteen years ago)

The Heat rejected New Jersey's offer of Vince Carter (who is due $33 million guaranteed through 2010-11) and an expiring contract for Marion, The Newark Star-Ledger reported. Miami also rejected offers from New Orleans (including Tyson Chandler) and Sacramento ( Brad Miller/ Kenny Thomas).

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

that (tremendoid), Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

omg what girls

ice cr?m, Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

desperate ploy for a new reg season thread

that (tremendoid), Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

too long?

ice cr?m, Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

nah just playing

that (tremendoid), Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

i remember reading an interview w/ai when he first got the cornrows saying he did it cause he was tired of barbers cutting his hairline all super high and how now hed never have to deal w/them ever again

ice cr?m, Sunday, 15 February 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

if they can get carter w/o moving one of their big three itd put them in championship contention imo - and they dont have to really sweat the fact that hell be old and useless by the end of his contract since their whole team is aging and theyre pretty much in a win now type scenario anyhow

i def think spurs are in contention now, despite some early misgivings, but i def think its the lakers to win out west unless the spurs pull something to get stronger down low. theyve been more offensively oriented this year since bonner and roger mason jr have replaced bowen and fab oberto in the rotation, but bonner still gets shook by gasol/bynum.

my hesitance abt the vince carter rumors (which look to be vapor at this point) was basically that he doesnt address their real deficiency (having post players besides duncan). whoever the spurs end up getting is gonna be a lot cheaper than carter anyway cos their payroll is so top-heavy with duncan/parker/ginobili. also, isnt carter signed through 2011? everyone except parker and duncan comes off the books in 2010.

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Sunday, 15 February 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

am now trying to imagine a scenario where bron plays with duncan and parker and 9 dudes playing for the minimum.

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Sunday, 15 February 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

spurs are a little thin up front def - but theyre not getting anyone as good as carter for what theyve got and he could make them an elite offensive teams - and lol u really dont have to worry abt bron going to s.a. or detroit or anywhere thats not new york or l.a. - if he leaves cleveland his considerations are gonna be more than roster based

ice cr?m, Monday, 16 February 2009 00:31 (sixteen years ago)

in that same bron-goes-crazy-and-goes-to-sa moment i was also picturing some grapes hi-fiving the sun and turning into raisins, so take it for what its worth

i mean im not kidding myself that theyre gonna get anybody more talented than that (altho i kinda dug the sheed non-rumor) but it just seems like a small move addressing the post would serve them better than giving up for another wing player who is owed as much ca$h as he. plus i dont think carter would learn the defense quick enough to make a net positive impact. spurs usually do small deadline moves anyway (ie theft of nazr mohammed from nyk for malik rose...that reminds me, i think mailk still has philly cheesesteak joints in sa, very well-revered player, would love to have in cheerleading bench role for vet's minimum in the future!)

Lucian, this guy with diamonds (m bison), Monday, 16 February 2009 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

bosh should sign w/ them and play out the last few years of the duncan era before becoming the dude

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 February 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

BAWSH

eman, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

its kinda a dystopian vision but i see bosh n bron in msg pwning the league while mike daintoni grins from the sideline

ice cr?m, Monday, 16 February 2009 06:40 (sixteen years ago)

tyson chandler to ok city for expiring joe smith and chris wilcox - nola cutting their losses on the oft injured mercurial big man - ok city sees something else apparently.

was seriously hopin the c's could pick up smith post deadline :(

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

lol

The hottest name at the trade deadline? A guy who hasn't played a game this season: Raef LaFrentz of the Portland Trail Blazers.

"If you asked owners in the league who they'd rather have right now, LaFrentz or Stoudemire, I think more than half of them would prefer LaFrentz," one executive told me. "That's how screwed up this thing has been. I guarantee you [Blazers GM] Kevin Pritchard has gotten better offers for LaFrentz than the Suns have gotten for Stoudemire."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeTalk-090217

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

back when my brother and i were kids, we used to call him Rape Your Friends (along w/ alltime fav Arvydas Saboner) and i still can't read dude's name w/o thinking of that childhood nickname~~

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

I mean, shouldn't they change how this shit works? It's pretty dumb.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

That article spends a good amount of time talking about how the Cavs will probably not trade Wally, and then I read this:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/02/17/cavs.wizards/index.html

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i didn't read that article but it was probably not assuming a guy like antawn would be available for wally s.

that would be a huge get for the cavs.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090212

23. Steve Nash
He's the Jennifer Aniston of the NBA: A sympathetic figure who brings a ton to the table and just wanted to have kids (or in Nash's case, win one title), only now his window is closing and he's considering the sperm donor route (or in Nash's case, a mercy trade to a contender with a better chance of winning, like Portland). By the way, Sarver is absolutely Angelina Jolie in this analogy -- he ruined everything and doesn't even feel bad about it. The Shaq trade equals the time Jennifer's wasting by dating John Mayer -- ultimately, it's a wasted year for her ovaries. Amare Stoudemire was Brad Pitt, the guy who should have made it happen and didn't. And I think Marc Stein was Us Weekly.

eman, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

Nash must be pretty upset about all the titles Stoudamire won without him.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

It's Bill Simmons, polyphonic.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:38 (sixteen years ago)

"that would be a huge get for the cavs."

Really? It's hard to imagine Antawn Jamison is the answer for anybody.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

hes better than szerbiaksukhdn and wallace who hed be traded for and replace in the starting lineup respectively - cavs O would be sik def

check him out hes having a pretty rad year http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=385

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

I don't trust stats when a dude is the lone scoring option on an awful team. Jamison is a lousy defender and rebounder and being better than szerbizek doesn't make him much of a get.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

Esp. when they'll have to overpay him for the next three years.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

jamisons stats hav been pretty consistent over his career regardless of how good his team was - hes a flawed borderline allstar type player - replacing the below average ben wallace w/him would be a huge upgrade for a team some already consider the fav to win it all

i agree that the long term aspect of the deal is pretty bad - generally id say if u have a shot at winning a championship or two you take it - obv the whole retaining lebron thing makes it way more complicated

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

ya i think jamison would be a nice pickup esp cuz he's so versatile - they could play jamison at the 4 and lebron at 3 normally, jamison at the 3 and lebron at the 2 vs bigger teams or if they wanted to go small jamison at the 5 and lebron at the 4 (or other way around idk). color me intrigued

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

Our definitions of borderline all star are way different. Ben Wallace may be an offensive sinkhole, but he can at least body a dude, whereas Jamison exists to be scored on and rebounded over. If he was an efficient shooter that might be okay, but he's not. Frankly I'd rather have Lebron taking every one of Jamison's shots and have Wallace picking up a couple of extra boards and guarding the other team's PF.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

nah i think you're underselling jamison. averaging close to a double-double is never and he'll only need to be a supporting player on the cavs--could take less shots, could be more selective, etc. he's big and athletic and about 10000 times more versatile than the guys ice cr?m mentioned.

wallace will still be around for situations that require him--the questions are if he's better than wally and will be a useful piece for the next two years.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

should say "is never bad"

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

Also, they'd still have Wallace, so they can still put him in the game if the need more d.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

if you play jamison and mo on the second unit that would be the best offensive second unit in the league by far.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

being an offensive sinkhole is a pretty horrible quality and u cant just magically transfer shots over to lebron w/o his efficiency going down

id be curious to see what jamisons D would look like on a team that actually you know played it - i bet he could get it up to passable - which is pretty much where wallace is at these days

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

"being an offensive sinkhole is a pretty horrible quality"

He's still a better rebounder and defender than Jamison is.

"u cant just magically transfer shots over to lebron w/o his efficiency going down"

Sure you can. You play Szebechek less and Lebron more. He un-magically takes more shots and un-magically makes them at a pretty similar rate.

"i bet he could get it up to passable"

I doubt it.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:04 (sixteen years ago)

"being an offensive sinkhole is a pretty horrible quality"

Shane Battier is an offensive sinkhole (he might even be worse than Ben Wallace) and yet by some definitions he's the most valuable player on the Rockets </Michael Lewis> ;)

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

wallace by the numbers is is only a marginally better rebounder than jamison this year despite the fact that he spends his time just hanging around the basket doing nothing

the only thing more koo koo than yr initial transferring shots theory is yr retort which manages to swap the players were talking abt so that yr dealing w/someone who plays the same position as lebron - by yr reasoning the cavs best plan is to have lebron play 48 minutes and take every shot

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

alex i think you might be thinking of the old ben wallace who was really good at the other non scoring aspects of the game

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

"wallace by the numbers is is only a marginally better rebounder than jamison this year despite the fact that he spends his time just hanging around the basket doing nothing"

Serious question: is 2.5% TRB% actually marginal?

"alex i think you might be thinking of the old ben wallace who was really good at the other non scoring aspects of the game"

Serious question #2: Is Ben Wallace really that bad at all those other aspects? For a guy who only plays 20 minutes a game his defensive/rebounding stats still seem okay to me. He gets a good amount of offensive rebounds, blocks a shot and a half a game, gets nearly a steal.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

"by yr reasoning the cavs best plan is to have lebron play 48 minutes"

Uh that part is the Cav's best plan.

"and take every shot"

This isn't, but having him take more shots is definitely helpful.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:23 (sixteen years ago)

"Uh that part is the Cav's best plan."

In the post-season that is. That's not a good plan across 82 games.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:23 (sixteen years ago)

Gerald Wallace is getting hawked too, right? Fragility and all, I'd rather have that dude than Jamison.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

obv the cavs are gonna play lebron more in the playoffs and hes rare in that he can play 48 at a high level but as his jump shot is pretty sucky not sure having him take too many more shots is the best idea since hes prob utilizing most of the drives available to him - which was my initial point abt transferring shots and efficiency - one thing tho that would open up more efficient scoring opportunities to lebron is to replace the offensive sinkhole w/someone who needs to be guarded

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:39 (sixteen years ago)

wallace is still a guy with some value, though it's hard to say how much. but we're not throwing him off the team, we're throwing wally s. off the team, and this year wally s. is a guy who is providing literally no value outside of shooting 40% on threes.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:39 (sixteen years ago)

jamison would prob eat all of wallaces minutes so he is in effect being thrown off the team

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:40 (sixteen years ago)

actually it would be j.j. hickson's 12 minutes plus some other minutes.

wallace and jamison are such completely different players that i'm pretty sure time could be found for both.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

Wally S is barely playing now though. And he'll be playing even less come the post-season. I'm all for getting rid of the dude, I'd just rather get someone better/younger/less expensive long-term than Jamison if I was Cleveland.

I've only seen the Cavs a couple of times this year, in the twenty or so minutes that Wallace is on the floor are defenders really abandoning him to go double Lebron like crazy or something?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

wally has been playing like 35 minutes/game in february yo. he was playing 20/game in january.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

Why are they playing him so much??!?! That's a terrible idea. I changed my mind. They should trade Wally for a set of shiny marbles.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:46 (sixteen years ago)

in part it prob has to do with dwest getting hurt.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:47 (sixteen years ago)

Do they really need a big small forward/small power forward then? What's the guard market like?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

lol wally does suk - hes been hitting threes but not enough to warrant those minutes

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

they could maybe get vince carter

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

i bet u luv him too

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

well west is back in practice so they might be ok. not too sure about other available guards tbh.

to me the reason you make this trade is that it helps you beat the celtics this year.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:52 (sixteen years ago)

id do it take the two rings and then wave a fond farewell to lebron as he rides off to greater glory in new york

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

btw i read that the economic shitstorm could be fucking up the knicks plans cause the salary cap is based on revenue and if it goes down they might not have enough space to max out two guys

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

"id do it take the two rings and then wave a fond farewell to lebron as he rides off to greater glory in new york"

Hah I think you have an over-inflated idea of how much Jamison helps them.

Isn't Carter's deal even worse than Jamison's?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

do you not think jamison helps them beat the celtics wayyyyyy more than wallace does?

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

theyre pretty even w/the c's/lakers right now so any improvement will have a big effect

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

if theyre healthy come playoffs id give the cavs the edge as theyve punched above their weight in the last few playoff just based on cranking up lebrons minutes - adding jamison would make them strong favorites imo

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:15 (sixteen years ago)

celtics need a back up center so bad - im pretty broken up over this joe smith trade

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:15 (sixteen years ago)

yeah he was def the guy to get, but great gamble by OKC on ty chandler. i'm also now terrified that tony allen won't be playing at all until the playoffs when he's going to be asked to defend some good players.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:24 (sixteen years ago)

if theyre healthy come playoffs id give the cavs the edge as theyve punched above their weight in the last few playoff just based on cranking up lebrons minutes - adding jamison would make them strong favorites imo

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:15 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is otm

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

i think joe and alex should pick a day every week wherein they debate the popular topics of the past 7 days - kind of like ilx's around the horn

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

"do you not think jamison helps them beat the celtics wayyyyyy more than wallace does?"

Possibly. Is there a better option out there that might help beat the Celtics even way more? Probably.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

I'll admit it though, I have a bias against Jamison. He seems to have gotten his rebounds up so maybe he's not the same guy he was a couple of years ago (even though by all accounts he's still a lousy defender and I'm not optimistic about that changing.)

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

i'm not super in the know on who's available but not sure how many better options there would be. also didn't cavs make a run at amar'e? there's a no-defense dude for you.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

Getting on Jamison's case about rebounds is weird to me. He averages more rebounds per 48 than Paul Milsap, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marvin Williams, Amare Stoudamire, Rasheed Wallace, or Cleveland's own JJ Hickson. He's not a shot blocker, but he blocks more than David Lee. Meanwhile, he has the second-most steals per game of any power forward or center in the league, and would be like 7th if I included SFs. His steals/turnover ratio is 13th best in the NBA.

Among PFs, he is 22nd in turnovers, and his fouls per 48 is very good.

So you're talking about a SF who is a bit out of position at PF, but still contributes a good amount of rebounds while contributing way more steals than other guys, while not fouling much or turning the ball over. He's also 7th in the league in double-doubles, ahead of Chris Bosh, Yao Ming, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki, Lebron James, etc. etc.

I'm not saying he's the best guy out there, but he's pretty good.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:27 (sixteen years ago)

PHOENIX -- Los Angeles Clippers forward Zach Randolph was ejected for throwing a punch at Phoenix's Louis Amundson in the first quarter on Tuesday night.

Amundson and Randolph became tangled up while going for a rebound late in the first quarter. Randolph knocked Amundson to the floor with his left elbow, then glared down at him. When Amundson stood to face Randolph, the Clippers forward threw a punch with his left hand and connected with a solid blow. He was immediately ejected.

Someone find video of this asap

Clay, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:41 (sixteen years ago)

srsly

eman, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

just saw the video on sportscenter, not that great. looks more like a push w/ his fist than anything. he didn't even really wind up

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 04:22 (sixteen years ago)

ok so the thunder unveiled their new gorilla mascot by having the thing descend from the rafters on a platform w/ fireworks shooting off of it. also the gorilla was playing the drums

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

actually it's a bison. HERE IS MORE

The Thunder concocted a background story for the mascot, saying Rumble helped save the rest of his herd of bison during a ferocious storm before he was stranded alone in the Arbuckle Mountains and was struck by a bolt of lightning that gave him added strength and agility.

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

tmac out for the year

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:28 (sixteen years ago)

microfracture on knee

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

I am personally *SHOCKED* that tracy mcgrady is going to have surgery and miss a ton of time.

Clay, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:44 (sixteen years ago)

saw it as the game was happening. pretty sad punch like all big men but def intent to whack amundson. amundson got his revenge with a wicked alleyoop from nash as it turned into a blowout.

randolphpunch.gif should be good though

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

it took them this long to get a mascot? did they not know the team was coming?

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

i think admunson actually being in the nba is probably the ultimate revenge anyhow

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

roffle

tmac microfracture surgery not really a surprise but with all his injuries...that's pretty much it for his career then right?? the only real comeback success has been amare who was like 23

something was definitely wrong with him this year tho

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

i guess someone might move on him for his contract

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:57 (sixteen years ago)

Few NBA players know how to throw a decent power punch, using their legs, hips and shoulders to deliver power behind their hand speed. They generally punch with their arms only and deliver a sort of flabby jab.

Aimless, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

"Few NBA players know how to throw a decent power punch"

Frankly I'm kind of grateful for this.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

um this may have to do with pro athletes posturing and acting tough while actually being terrified of getting hurt?

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

or hurt someone else and get kicked out of the league - a 6-10 250lb dude could do serious damage

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

As Rudy T can attest.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

yep

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

"um this may have to do with pro athletes posturing and acting tough while actually being terrified of getting hurt?"

Naw you are just as likely to break your hand throwing a wussy looking punch as a real one.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

no dude i mean getting in an actual fight with another guy; even the retarded players usually realize that's not in everyone's best interest.

it's the same as a lame baseball brawl or a couple special teams guys shoving after a kickoff.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

i will not hav u demeaning baseball brawls

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)

lol even the lame ones?

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

There has never been a basketball brawl as amusing as Nolan Ryan kicking Robin Ventura's ass.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

or pedro guiding don zimmers face in to the ground

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

yah guys those were awesome, not lame

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0605/mlb_a_shields_crisp_sq_300.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

I heard this on the radio and got excited about it then saw it irl and saw how weak it was =(

http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicago_benjy/2007_06_sports_derrek_lee_chris_young.jpg

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

you want to talk about a terrible punch, i think coco saw where shields was coming from about a week in advance.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

coco was so proud of himself for that dodge - post game presser was all smiles

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

looked great live but the slo-mo replay was like 'omg my grandma could've dodged that.'

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

That makes Jamie Shields very smart. Why risk his hand on Coco's face?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

The Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings have reached tentative agreement on a trade sending Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden, Michael Ruffin and Cedric Simmons to the Kings for Brad Miller and John Salmons, front-office sources said on Wednesday.

The Kings would then turn around and ship Ruffin to the Portland Trail Blazers for forward Ike Diogu and cash considerations, sources told ESPN's Chris Broussard.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

yes Michael Ruffin the final missing piece is now in place

josephcharles, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

My understanding is that Blazers did this for a trade exception which presumably they'll use in the next day.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

All Portlanders invited to my house tonight for huge Michael Ruffin Party, BYOB.

Clay, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

I usually hold a weekly Michael Ruffin party every Wednesday night, I suppose I could fold my regular Ruffin Ruckus into yours.

josephcharles, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

ugh, this kinda kills salmons fantasy value doesn't it

6335, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:40 (sixteen years ago)

i've been trying to dump salmons and ben gordon for a while, but no takers

6335, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:50 (sixteen years ago)

bring your own veteran exemption

rev. al shipley (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

why dump gordon?

gucci mane gretzky (deej), Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

i understand why the bulls might want to but hes totally undervalued as a fantasy player, dude is basically a stat hog

gucci mane gretzky (deej), Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

he's basically really great for threes

rev. al shipley (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

in the world of fantasy, gordon is overvalued imo. tryin' to sell high. i actually need him now that jason terry went down so its probably a good thing no one bit

6335, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

don't know if it was mentioned already but RIP cassell sacramento needed a ballsac juggler

eman, Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

chandler sent back to nola after failing physical

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:09 (sixteen years ago)

rumor mill saying joe smith now wants to be bought out to go to celtics. let's hope!

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 14:30 (sixteen years ago)

plz plz

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 14:37 (sixteen years ago)

chandler... back to n.o. ? weird

eman, Thursday, 19 February 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

magic got burned by hornets last nite btw

eman, Thursday, 19 February 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

lmao anyone else see shaq running the point on a fastbreak last night? nash tried to take the ball from him and shaq like purposefully knocked it away and ended up running all the way down the floor before dishing it to nash for a layup. the bench went crazy, it was awesome

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

suns 282
clippers 219

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

breaking

rashaad mccants and calvin booth to sacto for shelden williams and bobby brown

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

awwww shaq to cavs would be sikkest thing EVER

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

If Zydrunas and Shaq play together at the same time I will laugh a lot.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

Marc Stein: Hopefully you've seen all the clarifications on New York's moves.

The Knicks have swung two deals.

No. 1: Tim Thomas, Jerome James and Anthony Roberson to Chicago for Larry Hughes.

No. 2: Malik Rose and cash to Oklahoma City for Chris Wilcox.

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

yes! /marv
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/albacoretuner/durant_roy_boozer.jpg

6335, Thursday, 19 February 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

larry hughes gets his wish as basically the only 2 in nyc

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Thursday, 19 February 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

Tim Thomas gets traded a lot.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 February 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

Marc Stein: Orlando gets Rafer Alston, Houston gets Kyle Lowry, Memphis gets Brian Cook's expiring contract and a first from Orlando.

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

nice save by orlando.

c's end up trading p. o'bryant to the raps for will solomon, who i don't know anything about but looks like he may not be totally useless.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

ok nm solomon sent to Kings for cap relief which is originally what they were doing with o'bryant. the nba really excels at making these things no fun.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

wouldn't you rather have kyle lowry than rafer alston...

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

guessing the magic are thinking lowry is too raw to really help them right now

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

ha well it doesn't matter anyway cuz i was thinking of DAMON JONES - alston is having a pretty decent season

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

i thought the same then i looked at his stats and hes shooting 37%

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

i have this weird illogical love for allston 'cause you can never get through watching a game he's in without acknowledging that he is a STREETBALL LEGEND

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

yah i liek that abt him too

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

urban-suburban hip-hop settings (hmmmm), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)

loll russell brand vujacic and eat a dick

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

The Rockets get another second year point guard to go with Aaron Brooks and another 6'9" forward to go with Scola, Landry, Hayes, Artest and Battier. Not sure that was worth giving up a starting point guard.

mr. feeling better (james k polk), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha vujacic is such a clown

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

Like the Alston move. Better off letting Brooks get more play time.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

for the magic rafer`s an upgrade on anthony johnson and a servicable pg until jameer gets back. they just need to let him play d and drive and not let him shoot.

urban-suburban hip-hop settings (hmmmm), Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

shooting is what the magic are all abt tho - alston is hitting his threes @ 35% so maybe theyll let him take some

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)

Marc Stein: Chicago's Thabo Sefolosha is headed to Oklahoma City for one of the Thunder's five stockpiled first-round picks in the next two drafts.

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

wesstbrook
sefolosha
durant
green
krstic

is not bad

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

ya when i was fuckin around w/ the trade machine the other day i saw his name and realized that i forgot dude had existed - he can ball iirc

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

also his name is thabo

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

and he is swiss

ice cr?m, Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

:( @ no blockbustersss

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Friday, 20 February 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

otm

ice cr?m, Friday, 20 February 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

but oh my look what i hav found a little graph to inform alex and mines discussion abt lebron taking more shots

http://www.basketballgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/picture-5.png

http://sonicscentral.com/apbrmetrics/viewtopic.php?t=2092

ice cr?m, Friday, 20 February 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

What's his average offensive rating? Also what's the average for his team? What's Jamison's? Even having him take 45% of the Cavs possessions might be a net plus if it represents an improvement over what that 10-15% would have been otherwise.

Alex in SF, Friday, 20 February 2009 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

yo this boston/utah game is one of the better low-scoring games in recent memory.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:35 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, really physical. rondo 3 fouls early

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:39 (sixteen years ago)

garnett injured ugggghhhh

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:54 (sixteen years ago)

gawdddd it better not be serious.

i am drunk and alone right now but i really need to point out that garnett is one of the greatest team athletes of all time.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:55 (sixteen years ago)

scalabrine uggggghhhh

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:58 (sixteen years ago)

shooting 29% from the field and down by 1, whoaa. sucks about garnett, hope he's ok :(

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 05:00 (sixteen years ago)

kg back out warming up

be easy big ticket!

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2009 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

i gotta say, a series between the c's and jazz would be a hell of a thing.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 05:11 (sixteen years ago)

not in utah though, even the immortal dick bavetta is a superhomer there

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

yeah its all that pro-mormon bias

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 05:56 (sixteen years ago)

holee shit millsap

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:10 (sixteen years ago)

lol the announcer's reaction was like "YEEAARRRGH"

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

jazz have a good home crowd

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

perk is doing a great job on sap

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

yeah the jazz are pretty much singular evidence for home advantage.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

calling now for my free ExtenZe

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:23 (sixteen years ago)

anyone cop al harrington's new shoe yet (available only @ k-mart)

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:24 (sixteen years ago)

hey bavetta FUCK YOU

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

wow, lucky break w/ that bounce off the bottom of backboard

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

YESSS

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:29 (sixteen years ago)

FUCK huge shot

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:29 (sixteen years ago)

y'know i respect utah and the game they play but this was a badly officiated contest.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 06:31 (sixteen years ago)

great time to actually get a board wowwow

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:32 (sixteen years ago)

brutal game. sounds like KG is ok, that's good

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:39 (sixteen years ago)

ya thats a relief. still can't believe that shot by deron, that dude is good

eman, Friday, 20 February 2009 06:49 (sixteen years ago)

<3 eman

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 09:16 (sixteen years ago)

What's his average offensive rating? Also what's the average for his team? What's Jamison's? Even having him take 45% of the Cavs possessions might be a net plus if it represents an improvement over what that 10-15% would have been otherwise.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah i thought of these things too and i dont know the answers - in that thread i linked to there are links to other threads discussing this issue which is described by one guy as the ultimate abprmetrics problem in a more general sense - i havent read them - but maybe someone will and report back who knows

ice cr?m, Friday, 20 February 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)

amare out for eight weeks because of eye surgery?

memo from norv turner (omar little), Friday, 20 February 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3921500

memo from norv turner (omar little), Friday, 20 February 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

damn what the hell

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

too many injuries

ice cr?m, Friday, 20 February 2009 18:20 (sixteen years ago)

gawd the suns are such a trainwreck

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

RIP my fantasy team

gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

Too many injuries is OTM

Clay, Friday, 20 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

whoa so THE_REAL_SHAQ actually is real?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-212/A-Tweet-You-Can-Believe-In.html

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

haha yeah dude... there was a story in the nyt about it too

THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)

ah missed it, when he first popped up i thought for sure it was phony, every other famous twitterrr is

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

Uh, guys http://twitter.com/the_real_nash

Clay, Friday, 20 February 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

if it was fake there def wouldnt be a 77 tribute thread for it

gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

jazz owner larry h miller died today :( theres not too many team owners in the NBA who would stick w/ a coach as long as LHM. i'm bummed

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjcuGqJHJRQG2ylqROd0_gE5nYcB?slug=ap-obit-miller&prov=ap&type=lgns

6335, Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:49 (sixteen years ago)

i think barbosa has been UNLEASHED

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 21 February 2009 03:32 (sixteen years ago)

ummmm the lebron highlights on sportscenter right now are probably the most retarded thing i've ever seen.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, 21 February 2009 06:35 (sixteen years ago)

8 three-pointers, and these were like contested 28-footers that he was making look easy

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, 21 February 2009 06:37 (sixteen years ago)

lol i could tell kobe was tryig to go tit for tat tonight, at one point he was 4 for 15 or something. the tightness between the lakers and hornets is crazy, they said over the last 10 meetings each had won 5 games and the hornets had scored 4 more total points. and they both played shitty tonight, chris paul actually blew it for them wtfawesome

BOOM (tremendoid), Saturday, 21 February 2009 08:28 (sixteen years ago)

ummmm the lebron highlights on sportscenter right now are probably the most retarded thing i've ever seen.

― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:35 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

8 three-pointers, and these were like contested 28-footers that he was making look easy

― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:37 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

lol yes

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 21 February 2009 10:00 (sixteen years ago)

kevin durants fg% and scoring average by month

nov 46/23
dec 47/25
jan 49/28
feb 53/33

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3202

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Saturday, 21 February 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)

That kid is for real

carne asada, Saturday, 21 February 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

yeah durant is the truth, i am trying to pinpoint whose game he reminds me of

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Saturday, 21 February 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

teh iceman seems to be consensus - tho durant is prob more of a shooter than a creative scorer - tho maybe hes both is the thing - really i dont think weve seen anyone like him before

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

ummmm the lebron highlights on sportscenter right now are probably the most retarded thing i've ever seen.

― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:35 AM

yup

eman, Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

http://i44.tinypic.com/3535v7r.gif

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

ha i was telling my friend last night that nothing gets me like nba benches geeking out at shit. for like college scrubs it's basically their job, but it's awesome to see dudes like varejao losing it.

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

For all how crappy OK City has been, it has been good for Durant's development as a scorer. The management more or less cleared their roster of good, established players and put the whole franchise on Durant's back. He had to sink or swim. Obv, he's swimming along well now.

Aimless, Saturday, 21 February 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

garnett is out for 2-3 weeks

eman, Saturday, 21 February 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

jazz owner larry h miller died today :( theres not too many team owners in the NBA who would stick w/ a coach as long as LHM. i'm bummed

he went pretty young. selfish reason for shot out: he was cool for letting fish come back to LA. RIP

tremendoid, Saturday, 21 February 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

http://blogderudyfernandez.blogspot.com/

this has me lolling.

Clay, Sunday, 22 February 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)

LOL! about died after reading the chalupa post

http://blogderudyfernandez.blogspot.com/2009/02/pressure-of-chalupa.html

6335, Sunday, 22 February 2009 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

dude how bout yr jazz. i want to see these dudes battle forever. i got deron for the record. dude just hoops, larry bird style when he's healthy

tremendoid, Sunday, 22 February 2009 10:54 (sixteen years ago)

A Final Observation: Despite his stalwart appearance, Corey Maggette apparently has hollow bones! There is no other explanation for how dramatically he plummets to the ground after the lightest of touches. Without calcium supplements, a compounded fracture is in his near future.

hell of lols @ this

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Sunday, 22 February 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

lol scalabrine replacing injured garnett has to be the biggest downgrade in the history of the nba - srsly ever think abt it

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

ray allen is killing it i must say

tremendoid, Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:46 (sixteen years ago)

van gundy gettin pretty o_O freaking out blaming suns players for terry porters firing

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, i'm totally man-crushin' on d-will. can i say man-crush on ILX? no homo? homo? seriously, i'm man-crushin' over here. i loved how he hit that huge shot in the 4th quarter against boston a few nights ago and then just walked back to the huddle like it was no big deal. no ball juggling, no tongue-wagging, no fist pumping, just business as usual.

cp3-dwill battle last night was a great one too, i need to get tix for the next time we battle NO at home

xp

6335, Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't hear much blame, he was just vouching for porter

tremendoid, Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

naw he was all when the going got tough they quit on him they never really committed to defense just stuck their toe in to see how the water was - never once mentioning that porter had no idea how to use his personnel

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

no doubt i went back and heard it lol

tremendoid, Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

sorry i probably babble about the jazz too much on here. haven't seen too many non-jazz games this year, my wife usually wants to watch survivor or my name is earl or some other crap show

6335, Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

what are some other good sites besides justin.tv for internet viewing?

6335, Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

RONDO!

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

ive only ever used justin.tv

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

'no need to guard rondo out at the 3 pt line, just pick him up at 12 feet' LOL

6335, Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

rondo SHREDDING

Be brave, fortune favors the brave (ice cr?m), Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

killing it for sure. nice harlem globetrotter dribble move, barbosa

6335, Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

yeah van gundy is on some shit today

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

rondo pwns btw

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 February 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

LOL model of amare's eye

eman, Sunday, 22 February 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

i always forget grant hill is on the suns

eman, Sunday, 22 February 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

scalulbrine

tremendoid, Sunday, 22 February 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

Holy shit Steve Blake.

josephcharles, Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

watching Blazers vs the utterly sorry Clippers right now. Blazers have 12 assists on 12 fg's in the first quarter, Steve Blake has ten of them, with 3 minutes to go.

ha xpost.

Clay, Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

13!

Clay, Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

14! ties nba record, jesus.

Clay, Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

hold on, in one quarter???

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

yes.

Clay, Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

jesus christ

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

already halfway to the nba record

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

man the clips are just woeful.

Clay, Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

fuuuuck yes, starting steve blake on fantasy team

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

can someone explain those quest for g commercials that are like monty python holy grail feat. garnett and jabberwookies

eman, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

lolll no, those are tarded

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:29 (sixteen years ago)

challenging opinion: nba season is too looooooooooonnnnng

eman, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

my theory: the whole G marketing campaign is meant to be a huge wtf just to get inside yr head

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

totally should be 60 games xp

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

i like wtf random shit but it kind of seems like its operating on some sort of inside joke that i'm not getting so i can't really enjoy it

eman, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

the b&w talking head ones are even stranger imo

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

omg this one

giant usain head!

eman, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

but i need im!

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

its funny how bolt looks like a cute lil guy next to lol heug garnett

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

"challenging opinion: nba season is too looooooooooonnnnng"

This isn't challenging!! Everyone thinks it is stupid long.

Alex in SF, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

challop = opinion intended to be challenging but is really just obvious, i thought

eman, Monday, 23 February 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)

anyway october to june is just ridic! shit should end in april at latest. shortening and pushing the start date to dec/jan would probably be even better, less overlap w/ nfl season

eman, Monday, 23 February 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

Esp. ridic considering international events at least bi-yearly. It's becoming like football which is also just stupid long.

Alex in SF, Monday, 23 February 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

Shorten the season? Fuck that! give me Thursday and Friday night match-ups throughout the winter and into spring. I don’t need to watch all this games but it’s good to know they are there.

carne asada, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

the schedule could be tightened up a bit but I still want 82 games.

carne asada, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:14 (sixteen years ago)

the middle 3rd of the season is pretty much a wasteland that no one gives a fuck abt players included

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but i still like watching and that's all that matters.

carne asada, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

yah i guess i do too

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:38 (sixteen years ago)

I have really enjoyed watching the Warriors this year despite their irrelevance.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 23 February 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

r u especially enjoying their recent 5-2 streak

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

I have been, but mostly I'm excited to see Monta out there again, and excited to see Randolph out there.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 23 February 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

I wish they were playing worse so they could have a shot at Griffin or Thabeet, though.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 23 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

i was referring to our bet btw

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Oh believe me, I have an imaginary dollar in an imaginary envelope that says ice cr?m.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 23 February 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

haa

ice cr?m, Monday, 23 February 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

its funny how bolt looks like a cute lil guy next to lol heug garnett

i thought it was ao from and1 the first few times, i was all like good for him

tremendoid, Monday, 23 February 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

haha iverson tell me how the ball tastes
b+

tremendoid, Monday, 23 February 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

daag hawks gettin' ROLLED

6335, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 03:25 (sixteen years ago)

so are the nuggets. teams that can't guard rondo die quickly.

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 03:34 (sixteen years ago)

! (Clay), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

lol at larry hughes getting booed at home tonight

nate robinson hugging will ferrell at the end of the game ^_^

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)

scal ko'd in denver.

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

lol at harpring getting all aggy tonight

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:07 (sixteen years ago)

W's playing like trash tonight.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

pretty wack foul, no? game was out of reach
xp

6335, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:21 (sixteen years ago)

yeah idk it looked bad but when they showed the view from under the basket it looked to me like smith was going for the block but was just a lil late

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

devin harris' shot...

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/photos?photoId=2156812&gameId=290223007

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/d38ef906-65cd-47fe-9fe3-13935824b8cc.jpg

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't think it was dirty, just completely and totally unnecessary at that point. i've never seen harpring that mad tho, he was ready to RAGE
xp

6335, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it was like when the awkward pimply kid in middle school suddenly strikes back with 14 years of rage

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.bernarrmacfadden.com/atlasad.jpg

6335, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

haha that's my life right there minus the getting strong and killin dudes

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:36 (sixteen years ago)

tremendoid, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 08:47 (sixteen years ago)

no results "Kobe Bryant - Hotel Rape Walk Through - Signature Move" on youtube

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

that walk-through would have been more useful without the horrible editing.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

driving hard and planting w/yr lead foot into the pull up j is good advice - really a pretty difficult shot tho

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

btw jazz now healthy are a threat to the lakers imo

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

Ha!

carne asada, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

"btw jazz now healthy are a threat to the lakers imo"

Yeah cuz they did so great last year. . .

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

devin harris with a half-court appletini

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

"driving hard and planting w/yr lead foot into the pull up j is good advice"

Haha well the whole thing is pretty difficult. I mean he's basically saying okay so once you've established that you are a deadly outside shooter and you can penetrate at will THEN you kill 'em with the pull up jumper. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I don't think I'm getting to the killing with the pull up any time soon hah.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

"btw jazz now healthy are a threat to the lakers imo"

Yeah cuz they did so great last year. . .

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:24 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in that case i guess the celtics win it all again! sweeeet!

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

cue lambasting of boston fans part 254783958

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

i would totally hate on sports fans whos teams win everything all the time - especially if i was from one of the inferior parts of the country - understandable!

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i know what kobe is talking about doing is hard as shit but he's totally otm about how guys tend to plant on their BACK foot taking that shot and shoot it while falling even further away from the basket. would've been illustrated perfectly except they kept cutting right after the plant and right before the shot.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:41 (sixteen years ago)

He goes right up over fools with that shotting elbow planted on their dome.

carne asada, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

if bynum can back at full-strength in time for mid-playoffs, LA takes it all i think. anyone think the cavs have a real shot?

6335, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

real shot - yes

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

"if bynum can back at full-strength in time for mid-playoffs, LA takes it all i think"

Bynum is not coming back full-strength (he may come back in some form, but the team was still working on becoming a cohesive whole before he got hurt so it's hard to believe even if he's 75-90% healthy he'll just step and everything'll work like magic.) Even without him I think the Lakers have as good a chance as anyone else does. The fact that they'll only have to play one of the Eastern Conference teams is a big plus.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

real shot:
celtics
cavs
lakers

quasi shot:
magic
jazz
spurs

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

What is happening with Jameer Nelson? Without him the Magic have no shot.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:43 (sixteen years ago)

no shot in hell:
kings
wizards
grizzlies

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:44 (sixteen years ago)

nelsons future as i understand it is the magic are still evaluating if he needs season ending surgery- if not he could be back

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

Player News (last updated: February 19, 2009)
News: Nelson will miss the rest of the season after undergoing shoulder surgery Thursday, the Associated Press reports.

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

lol there u go i respectfully withdraw the magic from contention

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)

thats prob why the c's feel comfortable sitting garnett for two weeks when he could be playing - 1st place in the east just became a whole lot less important

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

Home court treated the c's very well last post season. I don't see then being as strong this year and you know they want no part of Cavs in a game 7 at Cleveland.

carne asada, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

sure but playing both orlando and cleveland at full strength - as the c's wouldve had to do w/a #2 seed - is way bigger than any game 7 location

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

Whatever it takes for those guys to get to the finals.

carne asada, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

even if we have to tie up damon wayans

http://bostonist.com/attachments/boston_caroline/celtic-pride.jpg

eman, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

kind interesting abt maybe the cavs being able to put the best talent around lebron

gregg (cleveland, OH): Chad, you never mention the Cavs as a possible destination for Bosh and I'm curious why. As it stands, they should have enough money to offer a max contract in addition to Lebron...wouldn't teaming with Lebron and chasing rings with a max deal be more enticing than signing in, say, New York or Chicago??

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:17 PM ET ) Because I think LeBron is leaving. Not sure why Bosh would go there if LeBron's not there. Now ... with that said. If LeBron stays, then yes, Cleveland could be a player for Bosh. And given the economy and a potential low cap of $55 million in 2010, the Cavs chances of signing him have increased. I don't think that New York or the Nets can clear the room to sign both LeBron and another All-Star.

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

WHERE U GO NOW STARBURY

eman, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

lol wayne was at the heat game tonight wearing a WADE band-aid under his eye

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 09:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.wizznutzz.com/2009/02/nba-trade-deadline-came-and-went-last.html

"Its about the irony of the power of math proving that u shouldnt always trust numbers.

Its about how Shane Batier is a basketball tortoise, plodding and predictable but how he wins the race because tracy mcgrady fell asleep at the Wendys drive through.

Its about how what sports somehow needs MORE stats because those stats are like secret runes and if you stare at them long enough you will see a magic 3-D picture of David Lee teaching Nate Robinson checkers."

circular firing squad (lukas), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 11:49 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=562

Can't access that article at work, but here's another one.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

guys tony parker is the truth

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Thursday, 26 February 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

two straight nights, two almost identical shutdowns of playoff teams by himself (was at the mavs game last night, he was a blur)

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Thursday, 26 February 2009 04:36 (sixteen years ago)

17-27 huh? was he just driving at will?

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Thursday, 26 February 2009 04:38 (sixteen years ago)

i hate the spurs.

! (Clay), Thursday, 26 February 2009 04:38 (sixteen years ago)

drives, pull up jumpers, jumpers off screens, it was all just at will. blazers tried to double, he just dribbled under the grooves in the soles of their shoes and got to the hoop. anytime he didn't have a clean look, he'd dish it to bonner or finley or whoever's job it was to stand there and be open to hit threes.

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Thursday, 26 February 2009 04:41 (sixteen years ago)

how bout them clippers

6335, Thursday, 26 February 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

haa what happened there - basketball is so weird sometimes

ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 February 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

i want to lol @ boston if they snag marbury but i bet it works out pretty well. if there is any team that can keep that ego in check, it's them, yeah? serious prospect of a title doesn't hurt either, esp this late in the season when everybody is starting to really bear down for the playoff race

6335, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

also, i'd like to express my happiness @ marcus camby & tyson chandler being back. selfish fantasy happiness

6335, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

the main thing abt marbury and this guy http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/75897/mikki.JPG is that they just suck at basketball and wont really help the team

ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

i watched about 3/4ths of the clips games but since the celtics obviously didn't want to be there they weren't really giving me a reason to be there. awful, sloppy, boring game.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)

i thought marburys problem was more that he sucks at life

6335, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

that too

ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

hay guys i just saw grant hill at the newsstand under my parking garage

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

drinking sprite?

eman, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

20 turnovers by the c's

eman, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

they have a right to be shook of l.a., we forget these guys are humans sometimes

tremendoid, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

celtics specialize in turnovers - its their thing - if they could somehow magically place themselves at the other end of the turnover spectrum theyd be unbeatable

they are right now btw v last in the league in turnover ratio

ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 February 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

LOS ANGELES -- Boston Celtics guard Gabe Pruitt apologized Thursday after he was stopped on a Hollywood street and arrested for investigation of misdemeanor drunken driving.

Pruitt was pulled over around 3 a.m., hours after playing five minutes in the Celtics' 93-91 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers. He failed a field sobriety test, police said.

eman, Thursday, 26 February 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

i woulda been drunk too amirite

the powerful claw (J0rdan S.), Friday, 27 February 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

"Drinkin in LA"

carne asada, Friday, 27 February 2009 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

suns v lakers anyone

bart get out i'm piss (eman), Friday, 27 February 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i'll be watchin

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 27 February 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

i've decided that i'm a big von wafer fan.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 27 February 2009 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3311936159_1ff52314ed.jpg

josephcharles, Friday, 27 February 2009 04:49 (sixteen years ago)

holy shit haaha

eman, Friday, 27 February 2009 05:03 (sixteen years ago)

llool

ice cr?m, Friday, 27 February 2009 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

Simmons on how fucked the NBA is financially

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 27 February 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

i enjoyed the apocalyptic vibe of that piece

ice cr?m, Friday, 27 February 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

good piece - i love all the unnamed sources and shady back room talk even tho i'm sure that not much of it will come to fruition

the powerful claw (J0rdan S.), Friday, 27 February 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i love the image of dorky simmons digging for dirt at these fancy nba parties. while it may not be quite as dire as he thinks, the shaky finances of owners + guaranteed player contracts (that goes for MLB too) could mean huge trouble over the next couple years.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 27 February 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i think that part is real, but are there going to be 5 franchises moving? i doubt it

the powerful claw (J0rdan S.), Friday, 27 February 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0224/nba_marbury2_576.jpg

this guy is supposed to be in uniform as early as tonight o_O

eman, Friday, 27 February 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

stepho_On marbu_ury

the powerful claw (J0rdan S.), Friday, 27 February 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

pretty much otm

eman, Friday, 27 February 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

o_Otm

eman, Friday, 27 February 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

that graphic is what hell looks like

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 27 February 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

I predict they drop him before the playoffs start.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

I think Simmons is probably OTM about the lockout to be.

Alex in SF, Friday, 27 February 2009 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

i love that $100 mil was dropped on the redeem team

eman, Saturday, 28 February 2009 01:06 (sixteen years ago)

Obama is courtside at the wizards game tonight btw.

! (Clay), Saturday, 28 February 2009 01:49 (sixteen years ago)

hey steph marbury looks pretty good!

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Saturday, 28 February 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/steve_aschburner/07/08/lockout.revisited/p1.lockout.jpg

s1ocki kong country (cankles), Saturday, 28 February 2009 13:36 (sixteen years ago)

ws just comin here to post the obama pics. heres some more:

http://i44.tinypic.com/34pnugw.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/28k3od5.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/eg7dli.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/nl3ltt.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/33o5gnt.jpg

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 February 2009 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

marbury is very capable of looking good. The trouble is that his head comes attached to his body.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 February 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

<3 obama

z-hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 28 February 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

cant believe magic might pull out this game

johnny crunch, Sunday, 1 March 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

bill murray and spike lee are sitting together at the cavs-hawks game o_O i shoulda gone

s1ocki kong country (cankles), Monday, 2 March 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)

THE_REAL_SHAQ went in again today

cr?m of the crop (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 March 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)

xpost yeah you fuckin should have. awww lbj just gave a kids in a cavs jersey a hi 5 he's the best

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 2 March 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

current playoff matchups :B

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/matchups?season=2009

eman, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

when does the season end

s1ocki kong country (cankles), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

The Wizards Fan Who Talked Trash to Obama

итало электро брейк (daria-g), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

Ball Don't Lie

eman, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

THAT'S ONE TALL DRINK OF CHINGCHONG

carne asada, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

Team spokesman Jeff Twiss confirmed Tuesday that ScaLOLabrine has been diagnosed with post concussion syndrome.

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 01:52 (sixteen years ago)

the only espn.com player photo he has is him gettin posterized

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/c0f1b747-129b-4b5e-99bd-4169766928c1.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

he looks like jason segal playing bball

burt_stanton and ernie (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

really one of the v worst nba players

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

lol back of the head lol

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:06 (sixteen years ago)

he's more mascot than player

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

he get a surprising amount of non crunch time minutes

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

doc will play him a bunch for four or five games - bench him cause hes so awful - then a while later hell forget and the cycle will begin anew

its the one tic left from docs ol crazy rotation ways - well that and playing big baby more than powe

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

who am i kidding docs rotations are still lunatic

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

^^

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:14 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i will <3 the large baby 4ever but powe is a str8 baller - i wonder if they'll be able to keep those second line guys

burt_stanton and ernie (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha

6335, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

noche latina

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss51/tr_fudge/nochelatina_eblastemail.jpg

arghhh too much culture

revo roxiomal (tremendoid), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 06:43 (sixteen years ago)

on rewriting the traveling rule:

The mission is simple. "We're trying to put it in English, for the normal, regular Joe to understand," says Borgia. "We want Joe the plumber to read it and understand it."

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

Joe the plumber, guys

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

what if joey crawford is joe the plumber

2 Many Omas (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

If joe the plumber is an NBA fan I'll eat my hat.

! (Clay), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

wanna see on-the-spot reporting bit where barkley shows up on his doorstep and has him read it and questions him on it

eman, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.blogcdn.com/nba.fanhouse.com/media/2008/10/drew-gooden-425mc-103108.jpg

newest spur, will i hate?

Marrakesh and Ashley Olsen (m bison), Thursday, 5 March 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

pop will know what can be done with him

man mountain elbow (tremendoid), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:17 (sixteen years ago)

Liked this:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/stephon_marbury_embroils_celtics?utm_source=a-section

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

mavs spanked by hornets

(citation needed) (eman), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

drinking beer and watching the nba has pretty much saved my life this winter

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

btw in highlights of the rockets/raptors game the other day a commentator referred to yao and bosh as "frankenstein versus the predator" Lo_OL

(citation needed) (eman), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

bosh is a seriously weird looking guy. in the only celtics game i went to this year KG utterly abused bosh throughout the second half. i pretty much felt bad for the dude by the end.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

rupaul of the nba

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

this nuggs/blazers game is kinda funny

(citation needed) (eman), Friday, 6 March 2009 04:13 (sixteen years ago)

i really don't like the blazers at all. the nugs have a genuinely weird collection of guys at least.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 6 March 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

last nite birdman brutally swatted down a rudy h. attempt and then did a hilarious slicking-back motion over his greasy hair

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

can't say i dislike the blazers, they're just one of many teams i don't know shit about.

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

young up and coming team definitely - bunch a nice guys but not necessarily boring - play too slow tho

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

maybe that's my thing with them--for such a young/talented/"exciting" team they play at a snail's pace.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 6 March 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

yah macmillan needs to loosen the reins they have the perfect team to run

by the way, that bridman block is on espn.com daily dime tv - its pretty funny he blocks it right onto fernandezs hed

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:54 (sixteen years ago)

OK SOME MOD IS FUK with MAH ABREVES by the way,

btw

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

ogracious! X[

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

KILL you MOD KILL U

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

waat? wouldn't those edits show up here: [Removed Illegal Link]

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

wtf u can't link to the admin log

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

its in the code maaaan

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

http://i43.tinypic.com/hwe54g.jpg

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

btw

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

lol tombot from the grave?

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:11 (sixteen years ago)

i was under the impression I had driven him off teh nets lol

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

lol amusing! lol

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

i I i

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

haa

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

half assd code

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

lol tombot from the grave?

― eman, Friday, March 6, 2009 10:11 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

watta greaseball

eman, Friday, 6 March 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

now u cant pass him the ball because his hands r slick

ice cr?m, Friday, 6 March 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

cannot deal w/ heinson~~ o sweet i actually didnt kno i could switch 2 espn

johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

heinson aside (dude needs to take a breath)...that was the best i've seen the c's play all season.

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

heinsoHn

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

http://i40.tinypic.com/1zmz4n8.jpg

boner state university (cankles), Saturday, 7 March 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha

eman, Saturday, 7 March 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

robert parish climbed to #19 on the all time scoring list.

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

damn this motherfucker stays bostond out

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

robert parish (not pictured)

srlsy doe, loving josh powell. bonus footage of pau getting yunked on

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Saturday, 7 March 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

11 straight W's, i dedicate this western bacon cheeseburger to u #8

6335, Sunday, 8 March 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

WOW @ d. wade tonight!!

carne asada, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

dude is fucking insane

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)

he's making a hell of a case for mvp consideration.

carne asada, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:05 (sixteen years ago)

blazers absolutely killing the lakers right now. 81-51 with a minute to go in the third.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:47 (sixteen years ago)

it's the most they've trailed all season.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

oh wow, ariza just took a NASTY cheap shot on fernandez, it's looking like he might be seriously, seriously hurt. like broken neck hurt.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:50 (sixteen years ago)

fight broke out. i'm like... that was one of the nastiest hits i've seen in the nba.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

fernandez going out on a stretcher.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

damn that was murder

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

welll.. the head shot looked incidental to me actually - it was kind of just careless and reckless on ariza

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:53 (sixteen years ago)

brandon roy wanted to knuck tho

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

i am a grown man and i'm about to cry over that hit.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)

jesus this sounds horrible.

lakers have some real dicks on their team.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

I'm thinking he badly dislocated his shoulder.

Technical Fouls: LA Lakers - L. Walton 1, J. Powell 1. Portland - J. Przybilla 1, L. Aldridge 1, T. Outlaw 1

Some bad blood between these teams for sure.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:01 (sixteen years ago)

wade is dope imo

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

streaming here: http://www.v-net.890m.com/livestreams.html

better than justin.tv

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:19 (sixteen years ago)

man lakers are shook

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:24 (sixteen years ago)

good news: fernandez taken to hospital with "chest discomfort" but it sounds precautionary.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:24 (sixteen years ago)

haaa

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

^ @ roy's dunk

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:27 (sixteen years ago)

that ariza/fernandez flagrant for those that didn't get to see it.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

that was really not as bad as advertised

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

probably not on ariza's part, but the fall is really nasty and when it happened in real time i thought he'd broken his neck for sure. and anytime someone's leaving on a stretcher it's a serious situation.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

looks like he landed on his side - maybe broken ribs

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

im inspired to watch old clips of the celtics punching people in the face - shit was raw



ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ heinson doing national tv

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

ha, i forgot how bill laimbeer was basically the ultimate villain of my childhood.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:47 (sixteen years ago)

love how parish clocks him and stands there like what

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)

Fall was bad, but Ariza's play was on the ball (hell he got mostly ball.) Did he even get a flagrant on that?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

ejected!

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

Heh I guess that kind of thing happens when you are down by 30 and it prompts a tussle. I wonder what his fine will be.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

Ariza is not a bad guy. The fall made it look way worse then it was. Hope Rudy is okay though.

carne asada, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

wonder if he fractured his hip, that fall looks brutal

eman, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

thought rudy's head would have got the worst of it. clean play

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

It was a reckless play on Ariza's part though not malicious or deserving of a suspension or anything. It just looked way worse than it was because (a) he got hit from behind by a guy he didn't know was there and (b) for an NBA player Rudy's pretty tiny, about my size, 6'5" 175. I know if I were to jump three feet in the air and get smacked that hard by a dude as big and strong as Ariza, I wouldn't come out of it so well either. If he gets Roy with that shot Roy probably loses his balance and falls into the stanchion, turns around and says "...the hell, man?" and there's the end of it.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

Though at the time at the game I threw in with the crowd's general reaction, which something along the lines of Let Us Rise As One And Slay The Cursed Interloper.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

truehoop guy was saying it was worse if you saw the whole game because the lakers were taking some manner of cheap shot on most plays to vent their frustrations or send a message or something. but he's also a blazers partisan so who knows.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

I saw the whole game and I'm not sure what he's talking about.

josephcharles, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

yah srsly its not even possible for the lakers to be physical

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

lakers were frustrated all throughout the third and were playing more physically than was warranted. they were trying to intimidate.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

but, you know, they're not the celtics or anything and it came across as stilted/awkward/forced.

! (Clay), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

xp to laimbeer getting punched
pretty funny how the pistons don't get up in parish's grill afterwards, they probably wished they coulda done it themselves. i'm trying to think of a current player that teammates wouldn't stand up for but not really coming up w/ anyone. maybe marbury when he was on the knicks, but being the knicks, i think they would have thrown down just to throw down

6335, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

ha, i forgot how bill laimbeer was basically the ultimate villain of my childhood.

― ! (Clay), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:47 AM

lol same. i remember disliking barkley too

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:30 (sixteen years ago)

i still pretty much feel bill laimbeer is a genuinely horrible guy

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:32 (sixteen years ago)

no jordan punching laimbeer on youtube :(

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:50 (sixteen years ago)

^^still have this cartridge in a drawer in my living room.

josephcharles, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

Laimbeer had no conscience. His whole career was built on dishing out nasty shit on the sly, grabbing, hacking, flopping and whining. But I hear he was good to his mother.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

I never played the laimbeer basketball game but doubt it could hold a candle to

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m276/justking81/Articles/ArchRivals1.jpg

! (Clay), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

what was the two on two game that also had a black guy w/a green mohawk and punching - that one was great

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

I think that was this same game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_Rivals

! (Clay), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 01:38 (sixteen years ago)

hated the whole bad boys pistons squad when i was a kid. except dumars

6335, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 02:31 (sixteen years ago)

yah i guess it must be but i remember it looking way different than the screenshot on the wiki - lolng time ago tho

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

Sometimes, soda cans and candy wrappers are thrown onto the floor. If a ballhandler steps on those, he falls onto the floor, and his opponent can then steal the ball from him. Since there are no fouls called in Arch Rivals (the referee is very nearsighted), players can punch their opponents as many times as they want. Players could also fall over by referee and take his trousers down.

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

best bball game ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._J_and_Larry_Bird_Go_One_on_One

often imitated, never equaled

droling lapdogs (hmmmm), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 03:37 (sixteen years ago)

aww yeah ^^ loved that game. shattering the backboard was the coolest thing ever.

another great basketball game was slam dunk super pro basketball for intellivision - you started out w/ something like 5 million dollars and actually drafted/signed a team before each game. there was a larry bird clone named 'larry hawk' on it LOL

6335, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

haaa look at all these names! http://www.intvfunhouse.com/games/slam.php

Jimmie Jammer vs Stilt Chambers

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

Duncan Peoples

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.intvfunhouse.com/intvcorp/games/slam-02.png

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

how did i not hav that - i was nuts for intelivision

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JSVEu2rjL._AA280_.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

known in Japan as Exciting Basket (エキサイティング バスケット)

LOL

eman, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

guys justin tv is suking anyone got an alternate celtics/heat link 4 mee

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

celts hanging tough with a shitty 10-man team. mikki moore and starbury suckkkkkk btw

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Thursday, 12 March 2009 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

curse of stephon

eman, Thursday, 12 March 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

i forgot about stilt chambers! but he wasn't as good as he should have been w/ a name like that. barrel smith was really good but my favorite player was this dude named ACE MAVERICK, he was king of the 3 pt line. this game was also great because it kept game stats and me and my friends were total stats nerds.

all the super pro sports games for INTV came out really late in the intellivision lifespan, most people had already started moving towards nintendo and sega, those games were the last dying gasp. i was pissed at first that we weren't upgrading to NES, but most of my friends usually wanted to come over and play INTV basketball instead of going to their house and playing double dribble so it ended up working out. at least until super tecmo basketball came out, and then you could keep stats for an entire season! i remember being super stoked about that

INTV xp

6335, Thursday, 12 March 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

i've been rocking dwert.tk instead of justintv, been way less laggy. downside is only 2 streams and it's a crapshoot of who's on

6335, Thursday, 12 March 2009 03:50 (sixteen years ago)

p.s.

http://lowposts.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/laimbeer_bird.jpg

eman, Thursday, 12 March 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

eman, Thursday, 12 March 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

omg pierce <3

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

I was hoping he was going to punch the kid in the head

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

you would

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)

Just ignoring him seemed anti-climactic somehow.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

it was good but it would've been better if he had knocked over the kid's popcorn or spilled a soda on him or something

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

Tore the jersey off his back and started waving it around.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

The kid's back obv.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

shoulda gone for the classic hi5 offer to hair slicking pantomime fake out

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

Haha that would have been awesome.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

Or the you've got a spot on your shirt finger in the eye.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

its pretty funny the way it is tho cause hes just all srsly fuck no

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

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eman, Thursday, 12 March 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

bad bwoyz pistons were b4 my time but i prob would've loved them - i loved barkley when i was a lil tyke exactly for his nastiness and anti-hero-ness, spitting on kids and whatnot

boner state university (cankles), Thursday, 12 March 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

pistons were fun def - except laimbeer that guy was just full on repulsive - hes like the kid who tortures animals or something

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

He was fun to hate though.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

So was Mahorn.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

yeh i kinda love evil teams since my team became one lol. f the world

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

:)

carne asada, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

carne where do u stand on the spurs question. this is a commitment i'm talking here

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 March 2009 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

it's really weird to call a basketball game 'double dribble'. it's like a game named 'foul ball' or 'ten-yard penalty'

droling lapdogs (hmmmm), Friday, 13 March 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

nice fro, delonte west

6335, Friday, 13 March 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

delonte 'bizzy bone' west

eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 04:25 (sixteen years ago)

did he die?

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 March 2009 04:25 (sixteen years ago)

richardson just clowned himself big time

eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

tried to do a 360 dunk and got denied by lj lol

eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)

omg are you serious — like, did lebron actually block a 360 dunk?

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 March 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

He got some wrist, but it sure was a fancy dunk before it got slapped from behind.

making some posts (james k polk), Friday, 13 March 2009 09:29 (sixteen years ago)

right the block itself was weak, its more the 360 fail that made it ridiculous

eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 13:16 (sixteen years ago)

eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 13:18 (sixteen years ago)

AWKWARD

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 March 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/333cfc66-40fe-45a3-a311-46f12f67dffe.jpg

eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

so marco jaric won the "grizzlies rapist" lottery

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

that means I lost the office pool :(

! (Clay), Friday, 13 March 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

haa theres 5 teams separated by a half a game for the last east playoff spot - pacers are a game and a half out - gl pacers

ice cr?m, Saturday, 14 March 2009 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

http://phoenix.fanster.com/suns/files/2009/03/mavericksfail.jpg

eman, Monday, 16 March 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

lakers toying with Dallas yesterday. quick first round exit for them if they stay in that 8 spot.

carne asada, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

dunno if this was just an off night but check out the +/- for the spurs bench and the thunder's bench

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290316025

spurs starters: +22
okc starters: -38

spurs bench: -32
okc bench: +48

dude n ned (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

lol, somehow durant plays 42 minutes and is -6, but then chucky atkins plays 15 minutes, shoots 1-5 and ends up +14. +/- seems kind of interesting, but at the same time i usually don't know what the hell to make of it.

circles, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

villanueva tweeting from the locker room at the half XD

http://twitter.com/CV31/status/1332313161

eman, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

someone shot carl landry in the leg?

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, that sounded kind of fucked up.

circles, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

jesus

eman, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:43 (sixteen years ago)

New Jersey Nets forward Sean Williams was arrested Monday at a cell phone store in a mall in suburban Denver on accusations that got into an argument with a clerk and threw a computer monitor.

eman, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

Skiles to Villanueva: No halftime tweets
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3990853

lol

eman, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

Celtics coach Doc Rivers admitted to being clueless about Twitter and about Villanueva's actions.

Do you know what Twitter is, Rivers was asked? "No."

Do you know what Facebook is? "Yeah."

When it was explained that Twitter is like Facebook, Rivers said, "During the game?"

"Yeah, well, I have no comment," Rivers said. "New generation."

eman, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

jeez its only 140 characters coach

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)

bynum status

Sidelined since tearing the medial collateral ligament of his right knee Jan. 31, Bynum hopes to move his rehab program from the treadmill to the court this week. If all goes well, he hopes to be back playing in “two or three weeks,” which would leave him at least two weeks to prepare for the postseason. The Lakers’ medical staff has cautioned Bynum that his return could still be as many as five weeks away, but even that should make him available for the start of the playoffs.

Bynum said he’s been running pain-free on the treadmill while admitting his lateral movement needs to improve. “I’m very happy,” he said. “I think I’m ahead of schedule. I just keep hoping things will go the right way and I won’t have any setbacks.”

6335, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)

wow @ igoudala

eman, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

cold blooded

6335, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:55 (sixteen years ago)

the old dribble the clock out then take a contested three play does work like 10% of the time

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:57 (sixteen years ago)

esp. when the guy guarding fails to foul ;)

eman, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

iirc igoudala's hit two or three actual buzzer beaters in his career

dude n ned (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

"In da locker room, snuck to post my twitt. We're playing the Celtics, tie ball game at da half. Coach wants more toughness. I gotta step up."

Hilarious.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)

the_real_nash # Just landed in SF. Bus turned a corner and a window flew open and matt barnes almost flew out. Suprised he didn't the way this seasons been 12:02 AM Mar 15th from Tweetie

eman, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

like that scene in the preview for miss march

dude n ned (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)

Kobe run over by the Smush-scalade

more red meat, bitches

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Friday, 20 March 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

i kinda liked him, he just fell off really abruptly. one day my smush jersey won't feel like a cruel joke, i'm sure of it

peace pipe to youur lips (tremendoid), Friday, 20 March 2009 01:27 (sixteen years ago)

ha yah srsly what a horrible interview - tell us some kobe stories smush wtf

ice cr?m, Friday, 20 March 2009 13:30 (sixteen years ago)

Last night I was watching the tourney and then switched over to the end of the Cavs/Blazers game, and was reminded why the NBA is and will always be better than college ball.

Because college ball does not have Lebron James.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 20 March 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

yeah watching that game I was thinking of just how crazy the NCAA announcers would go if any player made a routine LBJ/Roy/Mo Williams play

droling lapdogs (hmmmm), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

otoh wasn't that game being played in the 60s early in the 4th quarter?

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

LeBron is too good for this planet

carne asada, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

jarrett jack was 13-14 from the field toinght. 31 pts total

Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)

also i gotta say that KG barking at big baby after he drilled that jumper against the spurs was pretty freakin awesome

Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:08 (sixteen years ago)

loolll

http://i41.tinypic.com/xencyp.png

Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

thought this was pretty interesting:

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_11929555?nclick_check=1

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 23 March 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

halftime of the awful bulls/pistons game (bulls missing rose, pistons missing sheed, rip, and ai):

KENNY (paraphrased): that's why these teams have losing records and are struggling to make the playoffs--they don't have an identity.
CHARLES: oh they have an identity
EJ: what's that?
CHARLES (grinning, knowing he shouldn't but unable to resist): they suck.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

how about charles last week:

"If you were to swap the people in Cleveland and Milwaukee, it’d be the same dreary ass city. They are both dreary places. C Webb, would you agree? Cleveland and Milwaukee, other than Perkins Soul Food joint, they are the same dreary ass city... There is no reason to live in Cleveland, that’s why they call it the mistake by the lake. They didn’t come up with that for no reason Ernie."

eman, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 03:12 (sixteen years ago)

loll

Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

tremendoid, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 06:23 (sixteen years ago)

lol reggie

tremendoid, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

raad kobe pass

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)

ya i was watching larry bird youtubes last night and thinking no one does shit like that anymore but that pass is pretty close

eman, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 12:54 (sixteen years ago)

Nene suspended for head-butt incident

^ . ^

eman, Friday, 27 March 2009 04:30 (sixteen years ago)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7601/boozerq.jpg

josephcharles, Sunday, 29 March 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

lol

eman, Monday, 30 March 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

wau @ hawks

eman, Monday, 30 March 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

hornets over spurs http://www.rr-bb.com/images/icons/yeah.gif

eman, Monday, 30 March 2009 04:55 (sixteen years ago)

as the slc rep here, we agree w/ boozer diagram. sigh

6335, Monday, 30 March 2009 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

Geez, the Lakers have clinched the Western Conference's best record before a single other WC team has even clinched a playoff spot. Those bastards will be hard to beat.

Aimless, Monday, 30 March 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but l@kers play
in the weakest division
in the nba

not to say they ain't
kinda nice but come on now
not invincible

Haikunym Mark II (Dimension 5ive), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)

assuming an unhealthy/ineffective bynum they will have much trouble getting out of the west. several facets are coming along though, halfcourt defense is starting to click.

i want a floor like that (tremendoid), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 08:27 (sixteen years ago)

vlad radmanovic is like unbelievably terrible at defense, wow

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 00:36 (sixteen years ago)

whoa desagna diop is shooting 18% from the line this year

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 01:28 (sixteen years ago)

celts coming back furiously after playing an awful game.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)

double overtime. boston down 1 pt. ray sinks a trey with 2.1 seconds to go.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:39 (sixteen years ago)

excruciating game but thrilling at the end

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

PJ sure is fond of the term "instant offense" is he not?

josephcharles, Friday, 3 April 2009 06:42 (sixteen years ago)

who tf is paul davis:

http://thebiglead.com/?p=12919

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 3 April 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

^ lol

Dr. Phil, Saturday, 4 April 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

ginobili out for season meaning playoffs too

western conf playoffs looking pretty easy for the lakers at this point, right?

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

also wtf is with the jazz on tv every three days all of a sudden, outside of deron sometimes this is the least fun team to watch in the league

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 00:43 (sixteen years ago)

challop: spurs are better without manu this year

hammurabi's chode (m bison), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

man dude i really don't know about that. tho they've looked awful every time i've seen them this year so who knows.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

The Spurs are 32-11 when Ginobili plays but only 17-16 when he's out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-090407

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 01:35 (sixteen years ago)

i shd clarify: no ginobili is better than one legged ginobili. when he's healthy they're contenders, when he's out they can get into the playoffs, when he plays hurt, he does stupid shit and turns the ball over.

hammurabi's chode (m bison), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

blazers are looking tough, they have a good bench. i could see them giving LA a hard time

6335, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)

lakers don't match up that well w/ no, utah or portland. big test next in denver. last year's west was wild and wooly until the playoffs, probably the other way around this year

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 07:44 (sixteen years ago)

and this

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 07:53 (sixteen years ago)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5415/bargnaniallucinato3b.jpg

Dr. Phil, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:08 (sixteen years ago)

"lakers don't match up that well w/ no, utah or portland."

I can't imagine them losing a seven game series to any of those teams.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

Bynum possibly suiting up on Thursday!!

carne asada, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

If the Blazers could somehow arrange to eliminate the Lakers this year, I would kiss them all, no matter what happened in their next series.

Aimless, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

blazers match up well w/lakers - anyone beating them out west this year qualifies as a major upset tho imo

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

In terms of matchups, I think Blazers v. Rockets would be the worst for the Blazers, and that pairing seems quite possible in the first round.

Also, with all that youthful talent on the Blazers, they could either shrivel up come playoff time, or just take fire and get to the WC championship series. Or even the Finals. They are a total wild card in my estimate. But I really don't see them as NBA champs this year. That would be altogether too improbable.

Aimless, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

lakers/blazers could be pretty compelling from a vets v upstarts angle - especially if the blazers play w/abandon and pluck flustering the bullys etc - its too bad portland doesnt run more w/their depth they could really fuck w/a vet team

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

I am definitely looking forward to Round 1 of the Western Conference Playoffs and Round 2 of the playoffs in general.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

Blazers are def. the second best team in the conference now that Ginobli is out for good, it's just that the second best team in the conference is considerably behind the best team in the conference. The Lakers seem like they've been sleepwalking through the last third (or more) of the season to me. With normal rest and playoff focus I think they're going to have as easy a time as they did last year (Bynum or no.)

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

im thinking blazers/rockets/nuggets/jazz are all of similar strength

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

Houston are in a weird position - they could probably overtake San Antonio for the third seed, except that would take them from a homecourt matchup with a Blazers team they match up rly well with to losing to Utah again.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

i see the nugg's losing in the 1st round, regardless of who they play. and i could see houston beating utah this year - they're a much better team w/o gimpy mcgrady

6335, Friday, 10 April 2009 03:27 (sixteen years ago)

especially if the blazers play w/abandon and pluck flustering the bullys etc

lol bullys
rick fox is not walking through that door

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Friday, 10 April 2009 05:45 (sixteen years ago)

dam reggie and fratello really went at it tonight.

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Friday, 10 April 2009 07:05 (sixteen years ago)

Bynum's back.

Alex in SF, Friday, 10 April 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

with a respectable performance for being gone so long.

carne asada, Friday, 10 April 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

Anthony Randolph got schooled by Dikembe Mutombo:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/warriors/detail?&entry_id=38365

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 11 April 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

You go to school to learn things. Randolph should thank Mutombo and ask for another, please, sir.

Aimless, Saturday, 11 April 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

Last night I had the very great pleasure of watching the Blazers beat the Lakers, as Kobe tossed up a high percentage of misses, Pryzbilla and Oden kept Bynum bottled up, and Odom looked about half-baked.

Of course the Lakers had nothing to play for but pride, having clinched the west coast #1 seed many games ago. Still, I am sure it bruised their pride more than a bit to have fallen apart in the final minutes (which they did).

Now I can twiddle my thumbs quite happily until the playoffs start, at peace with the world.

Aimless, Sunday, 12 April 2009 00:33 (sixteen years ago)

I lost my voice screaming and yelling at that game last night. I'm sure it'll happen again come playoff time.

! (Clay), Sunday, 12 April 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

"Still, I am sure it bruised their pride more than a bit to have fallen apart in the final minutes (which they did)."

I doubt it. Second game of a back-to-back on the road. Even if there had been something to play for it would have been a tough game to win.

Alex in SF, Sunday, 12 April 2009 02:36 (sixteen years ago)

bs, lakers lost to a tough team, they'll need way more focus from here on out. this week officially just a bynum watch now, eh.

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Sunday, 12 April 2009 06:38 (sixteen years ago)

wau 31-9 cavs end of 1st quarter

J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 April 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't realize the Cavs were 39-1 at home this year. Wow.

Alex in SF, Monday, 13 April 2009 00:30 (sixteen years ago)

cavs are v good - 48 mins of lebron a nite is super unstoppable

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Monday, 13 April 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

slaughtered. allen and rondo might as well have sat out the game D:

Dr. Phil, Monday, 13 April 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

Ledron taking the whole Celtics team with him to the basket flex move and one was redic!

carne asada, Monday, 13 April 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

Tempers boiled in the third quarter when Cavs forward Anderson Varejao and Allen got tangled under the basket after a free throw.

Varejao flung Boston's guard to the floor, and Allen responded with a well placed elbow into the forward's groin area. Both players jawed at each other before getting technical fouls.

"It was a dirty play," Allen said. "He locked my arm and threw me to the ground. I wasn't going to allow him to think he could do whatever he wanted. I'm always going to stand up for myself. It's one thing for a team to be beating us, but they're not going to walk all over us."

The frizzy-haired Varejao had his own take.

"You don't hit a man in his [groin]," he said. "He doesn't like Brazilians or he doesn't like my hair."

Dr. Phil, Monday, 13 April 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

haha waht

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Monday, 13 April 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

or he doesn't like my [groin]

Dr. Phil, Monday, 13 April 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

"You don't hit a man in his [groin]," he said

He learned nothing from this incident then.

Aimless, Monday, 13 April 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

i for one don't like varejao's sideshow bob hair

Dr. Phil, Monday, 13 April 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

Post-game from POR/LAL on Friday:

I concur, Kobles!

josephcharles, Monday, 13 April 2009 23:37 (sixteen years ago)

kobles!

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:27 (sixteen years ago)

ray allen suspended! i hope varejao gets aids in his [groin]

Dr. Phil, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

"The Rockets tried to clear things up for their players Tuesday, giving them a two-sided sheet of paper with all the various playoff scenarios. With so much left to sort out, at least one player planned to ignore the handout.

"I'm going to go home and have a paper-airplane fight with my wife. That's what I'm going to do with that piece of paper. It means nothing," forward Shane Battier said. "We've got to go to Dallas, we've got to play well and we've got to win."

Oh Battierpaws.

Nasty British and Short (hmmmm), Thursday, 16 April 2009 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

Ray Allen can afford a suspension. And it won't affect the Celtics playoff seed, either. So I am pretty sure he's satisfied and would do it again in the same circumstances. During the playoffs would have been much worse timing.

Aimless, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:05 (sixteen years ago)

<3 varejao

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:05 (sixteen years ago)

going at a dudes balls is really not that cool ray fyi - the crowd reaction to the replay is priceless tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)

They say that half of the game is 90% mental.

Aimless, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

so anyways looks like cavs are gonna break the nba record of highest # of home games won - only halftime now but up 49-37 over philly YUP YUP

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

they are going totie the record right

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

nah i thought they tied it the other night

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

its my understanding that a few teams have gone 40-1 @ home

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:27 (sixteen years ago)

oh wait yea ur right

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:28 (sixteen years ago)

hey hey look whos got a double double in the third quarter - my friend leon powe! back from injury - that is truly heartening - c's best bench player fyi for those who dont follow them closely

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:34 (sixteen years ago)

yo tony allen is playing too this is nuts - notably absent is one kevin garnett - not feeling to great abt these playoffs dudes

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:35 (sixteen years ago)

u in boston? cavs are obv. my team but i live in western MA now so c's are up there. tho cavs def have a better chance i think.

im moving to boston this fall tho

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:37 (sixteen years ago)

i live in ny - grew up in newton tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:39 (sixteen years ago)

where r u moving

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:39 (sixteen years ago)

not sure yet - maybe cambridge or j plain

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:42 (sixteen years ago)

i used to live in jp - pretty sweet imo

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:44 (sixteen years ago)

justin.tv aint what it used 2 b

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

troo

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

just realized i get like the whole wizards season on local cable. lucky me rite?

is pierce out just for rest ?

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:18 (sixteen years ago)

in simmons' column today he was talking real apocalyptic about KG

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:23 (sixteen years ago)

dude has played a lot of games - they all have - theyre super old

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ birdman's faux-hawk tonite

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

could not be happier with how this season ended 4 the spurs (thank u rockets 4 being u)

hammurabi's chode (m bison), Thursday, 16 April 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

heh nuggs are getting destroyed

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 04:39 (sixteen years ago)

Spurs win division because of refs in Sacramento game.

james k polk, Thursday, 16 April 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

fuckin PUMPED for this, bringing my A game to the Rose Garden this weekend.

josephcharles, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:07 (sixteen years ago)

I'm happy for you Portland types, and I think you might win the series.

But Battier, Hayes, Landry, Lowery, Brooks, and Scola were a fun team to support this year.

james k polk, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

joseph, you're got some tickets? I think I'll be going to any and all the games at the garden. Tonight was crazy. Portland crowds have become like a bunch of college kids whose unheard of school just made it to the final four.

Clay, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

*you've got, obv. I am delirious with ripcity fever.

Clay, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:53 (sixteen years ago)

Split season tickets with three other dudes, drew names from a hat for playoffs, my name came out first so I get game 1.

josephcharles, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:56 (sixteen years ago)

i'm trying to come up with a good solution for watching the road games with a good-sized crowd but like still be able to hear the in-game commentary. i can't just forgo listening to reggie miller be completely asinine on the big stage.

Clay, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:00 (sixteen years ago)

so cavs lost in overtime against philly last night......no record-tying. kind of a bummer

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 12:33 (sixteen years ago)

rumors now going around that kg will miss the entire playoffs. not really a shocka at this point but rip celts.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:36 (sixteen years ago)

;_;

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

No kg? That's a bummer

carne asada, Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)

oof

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)

c's lose to orlando :(

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:02 (sixteen years ago)

Garnett's reaction?

"He was frustrated. He was mad at me, mad at everybody. Then he understood," Rivers said. "He put up a fight. He's really frustrated, but that's Kevin. That's why we got him, because he cares so much."

aw

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

i don't think they lose to orlando. orlando isn't really that good.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

orlando is v good imo

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

wouldve been right in the hunt if not for nelsons injury

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

R.I.P. regular season

Aimless, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)

They could easily make the conference finals without him, and a healthier KG is really their only shot against Bron Bron imo. If he's hurt, I think they'll still have a good shot next year.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

reg season in the books lock thread maybe?

Magic Jewson (carne asada), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:50 (sixteen years ago)

who is teh ilh mod

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

a healthier KG is really their only shot against Bron

ya agree w/ this

mark cl, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

i thought you were xp

Magic Jewson (carne asada), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

no i think maybe there isnt one

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

i mean realistically if i were the mod thered be a couple people u wouldnt see posting here

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

laker fans? ;_;

Magic Jewson (carne asada), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

lol no i mean i would prob bann kobe if he tried to post

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

btw polyphonic i owe u one imaginary dollar - tho i blame my loss solely on the failure to account for tanking

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

sup?

Kobe Bean Bryant (carne asada), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

omg kobe squeeee!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)

schwwwwwwwww

starsky and what (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

btw polyphonic i owe u one imaginary dollar - tho i blame my loss solely on the failure to account for tanking

I think that your basic premise that a healthy Warriors team is a marginally winning team was correct, though. But living in the Bay area and listening to people talk about the situation with the front office / Nelly / the players, I thought it would fall apart even more than it did, and I was impressed how well they played at times without their better players.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)

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Isiah Dumbass (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://dave.matusiak.org/weblog/wp-content/imgs/paint_huffer.jpg

Isiah Dumbass (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

ha yes the warriors management fiasco is srsly off the charts

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)


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