jordan v bird

since the poll didnt stipulate what were voting on i voted bird

we're voting on who was a better player jordan or bird as opposed to who had better hair cut jordan or bird

too late!

lawl

voted bird - u cant make a rational argument that he was better, but i just liked him more when i was a kid

Jordan. Never liked Bird, possibly because I grew up in the LA area.

http://home.earthlink.net/~lnkn/birdjord.htm

lol pathological

yeah i saw that page earlier, it's kinda bullshit

jordan would demolish bird in one on one. thus, jordan

"Jordan played a mere 33 more games than Bird. Why so many more trips to the line? Jordan was notorious for drawing 'excessive sympathy' from referees. Average trips to the line per game - MJ 8, Bird 4."

Hahaha

that's stupid. and at the end he's like "btw i'm a clear partisan"

Can't imagine anyone but racist Bostonians voting bird

lol well... guilty as charged

feel so bad for retarded midwesterners who cant appreciated the awesomeness of bird - brain drain is a bitch

I get bird but come on, its mj

mj is better but i like bird better

I am not so sure MJ would beat LB 1-on-1.

Can't imagine anyone but racist Bostonians voting bird

― @diplo DUB STEP!! GET DA FUCK UP!!! (deej), Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:49 AM

says reverse-racist chicagoan

feel so bad for retarded midwesterners who cant appreciated the awesomeness of bird - brain drain is a bitch

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yes pedantry is a common side effect of midwestern retardation

if you're gonna talk about brain drain, then all's fair. but alas, douchebaggery is inevitable side effect of east coast snobbery.

sorry you're just really really a douchebag, and i haven't read ILH in a long time and there you are right in action and i couldn't resist.

how the fuck can this not be Jordan in every possible category except maybe "least likely to gamble" and "least likely to get caught committing adultery"

least likely to form a flock of seagulls tribute band

look nobody's making the case that bird was better, just that we liked bird better because we are proud white warriors

sorry you're just really really a douchebag, and i haven't read ILH in a long time and there you are right in action and i couldn't resist.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:16 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im sure everyone would be cool w/u continuing to not read ilh

how the fuck can this not be Jordan in every possible category except maybe "least likely to gamble" and "least likely to get caught committing adultery"

― BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

least likely to wear a single gold hoop earring - least likely to have a messiah complex - least likely to costar in homoerotic underwear commercials w/kevin bacon

srsly tho bird was a better shooter passer and rebounder

least likely to costar in homoerotic underwear commercials w/kevin bacon

okay yes Bird in those commercials would make them veer from "unbearable" straight into "directly from Satan's asshole", I stand corrected

I have a work email to finish, someone plz point me at some stats that I can look at re: "Bird was a better shooter" because on the face of it that seems like it's batshit insanity to me

last two are debatable. at least they would be with someone who isn't know it all jones. xp

dan, beter shooter from distance, don't you think?

hmm, I can see that argument I guess, I just really hated Bird and his era of the Celtics so I don't want to give him credit for being anything other than a big ugly guy

im talking shooting here dan not scoring just u know jump shooting - a skill in which bird is widely considered to be one of the greatest of all time - a skill which jordan didnt really become proficient at until the second half of his career - anyway birds got 5% points on jordan for career 3pt% - jordans @ 33% and birds @ 38%

birds got 4 rebounds a game on jordan and 1 assist - the one assist is more impressive than it seems since jordan had the ball in his hands a lot more than bird did - another way of looking at this is bird used a way higher % of his possessions on passing than jordan did - also he played a position which generally gets less assists - and once again bird is widely considered to be a great passer - u should check out some old youtubes - guy had incredible court vision

between the two it would actually be a sort of interesting argument if jordan hadnt been a world class defender and bird a shitty one - i mean if they had similar defensive skills id still take jordan but itd be close

googling larry bird white power didnt really net anything juicy, but i did find this dude

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6668904

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but mj played a position that gets less rebounds. 6 rebs for a guard is equiv to 9ish for a forward, but Bird still has the edge with 10rpg. when mj was point at the point at the end of '89, he got, what, 17 straight trip dubs?
i've had a larry bird career highlight dvd in my amazon wishlist forever. was def an amazing player and underrated on defense. never won def player of the year though!

Bird: 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team Selection (1982-1984)

He made some great defensive plays

its kinda funny considering hes such a symbol of whiteness and old school sentimentality and other such bullshit - but some people kinda have forgotten how good he was - guy absolutely deserves his spot in the pantheon

he had good hand but slooow feet - those defensive second teams are pretty o_O imo

but mj played a position that gets less rebounds. 6 rebs for a guard is equiv to 9ish for a forward, but Bird still has the edge with 10rpg. when mj was point at the point at the end of '89, he got, what, 17 straight trip dubs?
i've had a larry bird career highlight dvd in my amazon wishlist forever. was def an amazing player and underrated on defense. never won def player of the year though!

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:51 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

brid was a sm forward - theres not a +3 rebound between that and 2 guard - jordan was great as a point guard def (tho i think the number was more like 6 straight trip dubs and 10 out of 20 or something) - still id like to see the numbers but im sure birds assist ratio would just crush jordans - plus he did crazy mind blowing fancy passes all day long

also bird never got a chance to play point :( sure he couldve lit up the assists too

just to go back to the D bird was crafty def a good team defender but he could not keep guys in front of him - especially in the 2nd half of his career

seeing 'nique on that reel reminded me that he's probably the most underrated all-time great ever

goddamn fuck yes i kiss u omar

jordan v bird i pick nique

there was a time when people would debate the mj vs nique question and while i would go with mj, nique's better than most of these other MJ contemporaries that get talked up more than he does

look nobody's making the case that bird was better, just that we liked bird better because we are proud white warriors

― the most brazen explosion of clitoral lust in folk-metal history (cankles), Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:26 PM

haha

nique was definitely dope

"the human highlight reel" otm

(tho i think the number was more like 6 straight trip dubs and 10 out of 20 or something)

bah you with your "facts", it was 17 straight if it was 1, i tell ya. (it was 7 straight, and 10 out of 11. 40 11 7 in the other game).

not a +3 between a SG and SF nowadays when there's very lil dif between the two positions, but i think it was closer to that when they played and the two were more clearly differentiated. bird=crashing boards, mj=leaking out for outlet pass, in generally. MJ would average 22rpg if he was a forward. 12 blks.

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wtfffffffff??????

we cant afford to be rash w/this important questions

How did this play against Detroit not make the Larry Bird Top Ten?

Eastern Conference Finals, 1987.

was wondering

it's probably on the "lol @ isiah" top 10

"seeing 'nique on that reel reminded me that he's probably the most underrated all-time great ever"

If he'd worked as hard at playing defense as he did at the dunk contest he might actually have been an all-time great.

One thing is clear. Bird was a far better coach (or GM) than Jordan was a GM.

bird is a pretty shitty gm tbh - great coach tho

The GM bar for him is pretty low, I'll admit.

hey alex how hard do you work at being a shithead does it just flow thru ur bones

Aw did I hurt your widdle feewings when I said bad stuff about 'nique.

no, it's a real question i - and probably many other pps - have pondered at some point. i bet you could count on one hand the number of people here (and probably IRL) who DON'T loathe you. i hope the earth just fucken opens up like a yawning giant and condemns u 2 its fiery depths

Wait I am supposed to be taking a lecture on etiquette from pretend racist sub-Vice level fuckwit? Wow the world sure is topsy-turvy.

hey nobody's makin u read it feel free to leave (forever)

Seriously I don't give a shit what you think or think of me (just as I am sure that you could care less what most of the board thinks of you.) And while I don't doubt there are some other powerpoint presentation who might feel the same as you do, you can rest assured that I am not losing sleep over them either.

Jordan raised on the east coast while Bird's from the midwest, clearly some lincoln vs kennedy thing going on here.

i dont care if u care, it's just gratifying to talk about how shitty u r

I like both Alex in SF and Honest Ade. :D

It's gratifying to see what a whiny little shit you are too.

The "no one really likes you" claim has got to be the most pussy assed little bitchmade schtick. That shit was tired in 5th grade, but it doesn't surprised me that insecure little fuckwits like Adrian and Ethan like pulling it out every once in a while.

Jordan vs Bird, One on One, by Garth Hitchens, Mark Madland, Larry Bird and Michael Jordan.

I'm curious to know what kind of creative input Bird & Jordan contributed to the game.

It's weird that Bird is wearing a Converse t-shirt.

I'm pretty sure the game didn't have an official NBA license, so they couldn't use the Celtics or Bulls logos.

bird was signed to converse

But why not have them both wear pretend uniforms? Did Converse pay them to use the logo? Or did Bird just say "look I created 1/4 of the game and I'm wearing my grey Converse t-shirt today so take the damn picture".

more weird is they're both tipping the ball in

That was Garth Hitchens' idea.

Jordan raised on the east coast while Bird's from the midwest, clearly some lincoln vs kennedy thing going on here.

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:59 PM (1 hour ago)

bird had a secretary called jordan, jordan had a mistress he referred to as "bird"

nooooooooo xp

if i remember right, bird dominated those games because you could just pop 3's all game. real life, i'll take mj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC3vanBCDmE

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overrated nigga - Lebron would bust his ass anyday as of today, he played a bunch of slow unathletic scrubs..

haa ownd

The Hick From French Lick was a better nickname. Jordan was a better player.

http://j.mp/DTG7a

Both guys top 5 ever. CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT?

That goodness I have another year to evaluate the question.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0909/cbk.michael.jordan.college.years/images/michael-jordan-dorm-room(2).jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0909/cbk.michael.jordan.college.years/images/michael-jordan-ms-pacman.jpg

lol "jabar's law"

+b

so cute!

^^^someone had to say it! looks like he could be in new edition!!

I wish tucking one's shirt in hadn't gone the way of the dino

that last pic looks like ms. pac-man just dumped him. it's okay mj, she's just a divorcee on the rebound, she didn't mean to hurt you.

did anyone watch the Bird-Magic doc on HBO? it owns pretty hard, bryant gumble says 'bullshit' at one point

"when people say Jordan saved the nba, I say bullshit,magic and bird did."

yea good stuff. it's pretty crazy and i never knew bird initially hurt his back putting in his mother's driveway. is it something that wouldve likely happened anyway to some degree or...

haven't seen the documentary, but wtf? nba -- b/c of magic and bird -- was thriving when jordan entered the league. he was probably its best player ever, but jordan didn't save the nba.

yeah thats really a nonstarter by gumbel ive never heard any1 argue it was jordan rather than larry/magic that revived the league

iirc, just before magic and bird, the nba finals was broadcast on tape delay after the airing-network's local news program (so at 11:30 est). that's even with dr. j in the league. when bird and magic went to the league's most storied franchises, and b/c they fit perfectly into contrasting styles of play and they gave immediate human interest to the league's best rivalry, they sent a charge through the league that totally revived its fortunes.

this was good tho. even my girl got into it.

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,210 for "JORDAN SAVED THE NBA". (0.30 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 16,400 for "MAGIC SAVED THE NBA". (0.27 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,150 for "BIRD SAVED THE NBA". (0.14 seconds

Nobody who knows anything, not even a humungous jordanite like myself, ever argues that MJ saved the NBA. He did catapult into into an even higher stratus though.

interestingly, "magic and bird saved the nba" and "bird and magic saved the nba" only gets u a handful of results

fwiw

Results 1 - 10 of about 795,000 for bird magic saved nba.

not sure what explains the difference in the results. can't be the word "the."

yeah i bet those 2 listings I posted above were referincing actual houdini-type magic and a benevolent super rich grouse, respectively.

Results 1 - 10 of about 606 for "michael curry saved the nba". (0.38 seconds)

lol. here's my search for the individuals:

Results 1 - 10 of about 4,470,000 for magic saved nba

Results 1 - 10 of about 10,700,000 for bird saved nba

again, fwiw.

No results found for "isiah thomas saved the nba".

'cba' innit

Results 1 - 10 of about 6,240 for isiah thomas saved fiu.

Results 1 - 10 of about 139,000 for kobe bryant raped the nba. (0.24 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 8,460 for kobe bryant raped fiu

http://216.117.181.169/art/olympics//c65.jpg

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2009/0328/RISE_Baller20_Bird.jpg

srsly fuck an american talking jordan v. bird those cunts dont even know the meaning of the word skill. MESSI

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:19 PM

IF WAR IS WHAT THEY WANT WAR IS WHAT THEY'LL GET

at least ilh has a proper board for their sport. have fun on "bloody" ile "guv", "cheers" ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85jg2IPrVAA&feature=player_embedded

SHANNON SMITH
STUFFED JORDAN

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/images/04/28/larry-bird-gallaghers.jpg

jordan! no, bird! no, jordan! no, bi. . .

still thinking about it. . .

only one year left to vote!

5 yr veteran bird w/orlando woolridge, granville waiters, kyle macy, earl cureton et al would never even make it to the playoffs, let alone push 2nd yr MJ w/Parish, DJ, McHale to a double OT in a playoff game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlBUj9bFC4&NR=1&feature=fvwp

this fucking guy

tbf, he's right about him in-his-prime v. kobe bryant.

STILL, I'M LEANING TOWARD A DIFFERENT DECISION W/R/T THIS POLL.

http://larrybyrdbiography.com/images/larry_bird_2.jpg

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HERESY!

http://i40.tinypic.com/dg3pkp.gif

this is horrible -- and un-american.

please, in the interest of fairness, post a moving image of michael jordan doing something gross and unflattering.

http://i40.tinypic.com/34fitxy.gif

THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT.

voted bird btw

thank you! very good.

but only because Jordan picks his eyeball and eats it

RATED R

ew.

looooooooooooooool jordan str8 ballin out the frame

LAR-RY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULvo7__wwBU&feature=fvw

raw ass shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLEQPJB4ZlY#t=3m20s

@3:20

parrish getting dunked on = nagl

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(2 years ago)

ooof

Bird!

Nike-inspired hype aside, Jordan was, to quote a certain famous hoosier baller, "God".

Bird!!

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

http://cdn.chillnite.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bullshitgif.jpeg

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL FINALLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGNi5ULTghw

LOL

fuk any1 voting bird btw

i am obligated to vote 'larry bird' nothing i can do abt it sry

^white man's burden

i voted bird too

white bostonians burden fwiw

contemporary news features & highlight broadcasts of MJ's rookie year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQl90iAqgMo&playnext=1&list=PLE0F0657886ADC61E

hot as a cabbage patch doll!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWhHUp233aA&feature=related

regular season game in hartford wtf

http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bird_1024768.jpg

FUCK YEAH

brid was a sm forward - theres not a +3 rebound between that and 2 guard - jordan was great as a point guard def (tho i think the number was more like 6 straight trip dubs and 10 out of 20 or something) - still id like to see the numbers but im sure birds assist ratio would just crush jordans - plus he did crazy mind blowing fancy passes all day long

― ice cr?m, Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:59 PM (3 years ago)

don't mind me i'm just searching ilh for "v" but fwiw jordan's career ast% = 24.9 including peaks of 34.7 and 28.6 a couple years (and then 30.8 again in 2002, wth); bird's is 24.7% with peaks 0f 28.6 and 28.9 but pretty consistently in the 25s to 27s. jordan also turned the ball over far less often, 9.3% for his career compared with 12.7 for bird

I wish tucking one's shirt in hadn't gone the way of the dino

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:44 PM (3 years ago)

lol @ old man j0hn's post itt

hes right.

ha i agree & i tuck mine in when i play