2011 nba draft thread

feels right to start this now after half the lottery has decided to go back to school

latest is perry jones, along w/ henson & zeller and most likely harrison barnes as well

the top 10 is gonna be irving, d williams, kemba & lots of euros -- nba teams are probably freaking out right about now

no reason to freak, nba teams

josh selby seems to be indicating that even when the one-year plan goes horribly awry, it's still a one-year plan.

what an idiot

lance stephenson pt 2

he's been in las vegas training for almost 2 weeks and surely not violating any ncaa regulations. i assume he'll get drafted somewhere, but he really would have as much to gain as anyone by going back to school and showing improvement.

derrick williams is officially in.

i'm not convinced that williams is gonna be a full time starter in the nba but in this draft he should be picked top 3 prob

Why are people staying? Lockout? Barnes is risking a lot, he'd be high this year if he stayed.

DIdn't the clipper throw in their unprotected pick as part of the Baron/Mo deal? I guess that was a pretty sign that people don't rate this draft. Still kinda pumped about BISMACK though!

yeah no one is rating this draft outside irving and maybe walker as an off-the-bench ty lawson type. clips also didn't want the guaranteed salary of the lottery pick on the books- it's usually a bargain for most teams but if there's one thing the clips are drowning in for the next few years it's cheap young talent already locked up

okay calipari keeps the conveyor belt going, we've got knight, jones, and liggins in the draft but not hiring agents yet.

i'm actually kind of high on derrick williams. feel like he might be sort of like supercool beas with better mental state, make a few all star games.

so happy those UK kids are declaring haha

lotto tonight fellas! please feel free to get as unexcited as you want.

the lotto is almost always hilarious

this is ridiculous + amazing

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
Via Minn Star-Tribune: T-Wolves have never won the NBA lottery, never improved their spot + dropped lower 7 of 13 times.

i guess what's cool this year is that the lotto will actually influence who is picked #1? or maybe that makes it less cool

that wolves factoid means they are definitely winning this particular lottery.

Uh, gamblers fallacy.

i meant because this lottery blows and there is no good #1 pick

And the consensus #1 is another point guard

This shithole league is fixed, show us the ping pong balls stern!!!

Rashad mccants did 9/11

Timberwolves truthers 4 justice

Fuck this

they are definitely winning

Any TWolves fan should have known instinctively how wrong it felt to write that combination of words.

it's hella fucked up that the draft is gonna be LOADED next year aaaaaaaaaaaaand the t wolves pick is owned by the clippers (THANK YOU BASED JARIC)

wau really

on both points!

& that's another reason why the clippers dealt their pick

who's coming out next year?

well most likely three guys that would've been guaranteed top 5 picks this year (harrison barnes, perry jones, jared sullinger) + potentially a freshmen class that is really stacked

some of those guys: kentucky's anthony davis (called the next KG), duke's/doc's austin rivers, baylor's quincy miller, florida's bradley beal (the next eric gordon) etc etc

O_0

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"This league has a habit, and I am just going to say habit, of producing some pretty incredible story lines," Kahn said. "Last year it was Abe Pollin's widow and this year it was a 14-year-old boy and the only thing we have in common is we have both been bar mitzvahed. We were done. I told Kevin: 'We're toast.' This is not happening for us and I was right."

obviously kahn needs to send a gay jewish transvestite to the next draft lottery to ensure the #1 pick

TBH given that I had zero hope of the Wolves winning, I am p.contented with a top 3 of Utah, Minnesotta and the Clippers having thrown in #1 overall just to get rid of Baron.

(The ugly thing is that basically every viable prospect at #2 plays PF which is also the position of our four best players at this point)

Isn't that dude that's going number two exactly like beasley?

So fucked

Why don't they show the ping pong balls being drawn? ?

GOOGLE BUILDING 7

yeah matt he is, pretty much. The bigger problem I see is that he's more suited to play PF than beasley but that would be a pretty small/weird defensive combo with love... plus they're paying darko a lot of money. Idk.

Simmons podcast w/ Chad Ford was interesting re minny. Simmons made the good point that Kahn has collected assets w/o any consideration to how they might play together. Like, he paid next to nothing for Beasley and Randolph, but those guys can't play together. Flynn is in a system that doesn't suit him. They tried wes johnson at the two for some reason. Kahn just has no plan.

Johnson at the two was an awful idea but they had no other way to play him really once they got Beasley - 10 minutes a night behind the team's second best player wouldn't really justify a #4 pick?

Maybe they could trade #2 overall for having their pick back in '12.

I think in fairness to Kahn his plan was always to take the best players he could for the minimum price, and then trade the chips into a team - what went wrong was that no-one wanted to trade with him because he is crazy.

"Thanks to moving up from No. 6 to No. 3 with the draft pick they received from New Jersey, the Jazz have a much bigger and better outlook. A month after the cursed season of 2010-2011, general manager Kevin O’Connor almost smiled, while recognizing how much scrutiny — of him and by him — will be involved in the June 23 draft.

"The pressure’s on," O’Connor said, "but that’s OK."

It’s better than that. The Jazz now can land the young, talented center they need: Enes Kanter of Turkey via Kentucky. This also enables them to be more creative with their own pick (No. 12), which brings The Jimmer Issue into full bloom over the next five weeks."

This is weirdly certain of what's going to happen - I didn't know Kanter was even the consensus #1 center.

TAKE BRANDON KNIGHT

he's the best balance of upside/risk in this relatively upside-less but very risky draft imo -- i think you could easily make an argument that he should be taken ahead of kyrie

I think in fairness to Kahn his plan was always to take the best players he could for the minimum price, and then trade the chips into a team - what went wrong was that no-one wanted to trade with him because he is crazy.

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

ford says on this podcast that the bizarre thing about this is that kahn genuinely believed that the team would be good -- he used the example of danny ainge, who was collecting assets but had no delusions of those assets being worth anything in the short term, whereas kahn was expecting the wolves to be competitive this year

also they touched on this & i think it's pretty intriguing & that's looking to trade rubio for a 2012 lottery pick (simmons throws out the clippers, which actually makes a ton of sense)

i wonder what color the sky is on david kahn's planet.

Yeah, I find it really hard to figure out Kahn's "genuine beliefs" 'cos he'll say the craziest stuff ("Darko is on track to be an all-star next season") and it's just totally unclear whether it's a) To boost Darko's confidence, b) To save his own job, c) To raise Darko's trade value, or d) he actually thinks this is true - like, if the consensus #2 player were a center this draft, would the wolves be taking him? I honestly have no idea.

also they touched on this & i think it's pretty intriguing & that's looking to trade rubio for a 2012 lottery pick (simmons throws out the clippers, which actually makes a ton of sense)

This would be such a catastrophic admission of failure though - simultaneously "we cannot persuade a guy getting 20 non-starter minutes a night to come and play in the NBA" and "we intend to suck next season for the third year in a row, hope u guys weren't too attached to Kevin Love".

well yeah but sometimes that has to happen -- chris wallace admitted failure when he dealt thabeet but it netted him a pretty good player

i just feel like we're caught in some inescapable black hole of sucking it's so goddamn depressing, i don't even have ideas of what they should do anymore, you know? like i can't wrap my head around the enormity of how bad the timberwolves are

Utah next season could potentially be Harris/Jimmer/Hayward/Favors/Biyombo! That is a young and hilarious team.

Granger for Beasley/Rubio/2nd? Poor DG.

apparently rubio played like shit this past season and a lot of people in the nba are really down on him now - most of the hype was based on his crazy athleticism but hes always had some huge holes in his game that havent really gotten better.

Crazy athleticism is hard to teach. Holes in one's game are more a matter of application and willingness to work. Rubio's young. There's still hope.

feel like the move to usa and nba coaching could be huge for him

prob spent most the season bummed that kahn picked him, maybe affected his confidence

Derrick Williams workouts - "Celtics, Suns & Minnesotta" - what a weird list

cleveland trying to move up so it can draft 1 and 2:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6603100

might as well i guess. minnesota would draft 4 and 8, and detroit would pay the 8 to get rid of hamilton.

interesting -- a lot of ppl don't see williams as a 3

if the cavs can still suck as much as possible next year & pick up a legit star in the top 3 they'd def have something

a team of *star from 2012 draft * irving, williams & hickson could be about something

yeah it seems like the draft is such that it's worth taking a gamble on him becoming a 3 because you're not going to be able draft a "proper" 3 who is also an impact player.

yeah -- at worst either him or hickson becomes a super sixth man

I have no idea where the Wolves are gonna find the garbage time for another two prospects but I definitely prefer sticks pin at random into Knight/Biyombo/Vassely/Kanter tier to Kahn makes decision.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Analyzing-the-NBA-Combine-Athletic-Testing-Results-3728/ - Vucevic had the worst vert at the combine by FIVE INCHES

Honestly had no idea Jimmer was a legit athlete to that extent #racism

things like this, they just disturb me (from chad ford piece):

Speaking of Fredette, don't count out the Sacramento Kings as a possible destination. In the past few days there's been a spate of articles emphasizing that both Kemba Walker and Kawhi Leonard are higher on their Big Board. True. But that's Geoff Petrie's Big Board. The Maloofs, who own the team, are looking to make a splash. I'm not saying they'll force Petrie's hand, I'm just saying that Fredette is still strongly in the mix there.

so many owners just suck

fuck the kings and their lame hick fans

Chad Ford: "Still hearing the Wolves are hoping to get a great offer for the No. 2 pick. Hearing the best one they have right now is from Phoenix (Marcin Gortat and the No. 13 pick)."

Sorta think they should take this deal.

They should take Gortat straight up! He's an NBA starter at their worst position, why would you refuse that.

that'd be a pretty good deal. get an above average center for a team that really needs one. and they'd get someone with the 13th. don't know why they'd get more than that from anyone sane.

no, that would be crazy

gortat is decent but even in this draft you don't trade the #2 overall pick for what's going to amount to like the 12th best center in the nba + a backup swingman

^^

Let's say for the sake of argument that Williams is off the board. Then do you do the trade?

draft Irving and move him later. Irving's value is far greater than gortat's.

simmons & chad ford debated this on their podcast today -- simmons was arguing that the cavs should take williams bcuz the wolves will not take irving, even tho they're adamant that they will, but i still think you can't risk getting stuck w/ kemba at 4 if irving & knight go off the board

anyway, i think if that happened that the wolves would have to look hard at trading but i would still take my chances on kanter over gortat & the #13

It would be incredible if they drafted Irving and traded him, only two years after they drafted Ty Lawson and traded him.

i'm not sure if they could do that w/ irving bcuz they'd get lowballed like fuck -- i think they'd have a better chance of a team overpaying in the 5 minute mad dash to get up to #2 to take irving than if the wolves took him & the dust settled

the other problem is that after the draft you'd have to eliminate as trade partners whichever teams took knight, walker, jimmer, jackson, shumpert, brooks, selby etc etc

If Irving drops you just take Irving and Ricky Rubio is your backup point guard, you trade him at midseason for, hey, Marcin Gortat or someone, I don't see how this is even a thing.

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What about us?!

Don't forget http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-201102/33de9d7a25de5295089a62774b719406.jpg

simmons (shockingly!) actually did make a good point in this podcast & that's that if the wolves (& apparently they are) are willing to give johnny flynn away like the heat did michael beasley, that some team should come in & snatch him up immediately bcuz he's been in a terrible system w/ a terrible team & he can't really be nearly that bad

Monta Ellis
Warriors 2011 first rounder

for

Wes Johnson
Johnny Flynn
Luke Ridinour

Who says no?

Warriors?

warriors in an immediate heartbeat

it would still leave them w/ no 2 guard

simmons (shockingly!) actually did make a good point in this podcast & that's that if the wolves (& apparently they are) are willing to give johnny flynn away like the heat did michael beasley, that some team should come in & snatch him up immediately bcuz he's been in a terrible system w/ a terrible team & he can't really be nearly that bad

This idea is pretty interesting to me too - I'd love to see him succeed - but I'd be kind of amazed, like Flynn last season was so so strikingly bad - the gap between him and Ridnour was cataclysmic and Ridnour is a backup PG - he could get a lot lot better and still not belong in an NBA rotation. Has anyone ever returned from that extent of "shook"?

the warriors are in an okay place -- they're right in the position in this draft where the 2 guards (thompson, burks) should come off the board & they can still get rid of monta at some point during the year

They should just do Monta for Igoudala already, it makes a ton of sense, neither team is gonna do better than that.

i pretty much agree -- even the contracts make sense

(I'd be v.unsure about Kanter on the Wolves fwiw - Love/Kanter would be an all-time horrible defensive frontcourt)

They should def do Iggy/Monta, agreed.

^

The San Antonio Spurs are engaged in discussions about trading point guard Tony Parker(notes) to secure a high pick in Thursday’s draft, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

-(notes)

gtfo

i think tony parker would seek asylum in france if he got traded to the kings

Trade him to the Wolves! They need more point guards.

wolves should be only pg's next year. c'mon guys, experiment! cut loose! you're not winning shit for decades either way!

it's weird like...i think parker would be total trade bait in this situation if the spurs thought neal could step up but...this draft is so shitty, it's like any usual strategy is out the door

i don't mind spurs trading TP if they get a PG in return. they have no true PGs besides him (GH still learning how to run an offense, manu runs the point at times but guards the 2). neal is a classic 2.

Grantland swagged it out with their draft preview

this four factors analysis is neat!

jan vesely sounds like he could be a lot of fun

lol

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0620/gl_g_dcousts_576.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/seth_davis/06/22/draft.prospects/index.html

Jimmer is a "rich man's Dan Dickau"

that doesn't really seem appealing tbh

rich man's dan dickau = middle class man's bob sura

hey ilh lets settle something before tomorrow night.

enes kanter. is it EH-nihs, kind of like dennis but no d, or E-niss, rhymin with cleanest and meanest?

i keep hearing eeniss

Love this kid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvko4VUYuKQ

I do the first one but I don't have any evidence for it

Chad Ford (1:30 PM)

A call coming from a GM ... give me a second, I need to get this.

lol chad brb

#humblebrag

oh sry gotta interrupt my chat just be a second guys

so who you all think will experience this year inexplicable last minute draft stock crash and get picked ten spots later than everyone thought - my moneys on Bismack Biyombo or kemba

Chad Ford (1:39 PM)

Hold on again ... another call. Sorry.

kemba seems like he could fall but not far. If he lasts til the teens no way a borderline playoff team doesn't snatch him up.

i wish i saw kemba do other things in college besides dominate the ball.

Jonas Valanciunas is supposed to drop because he's staying abroad next year, but there could still be a team that doesn't mind waiting.

Kawhi Leonard is a guy I've seen as high as 6 and as low as 15.

I was lolling super hard at BRB GM CALL too

And yeah I think its enis like Dennis

The one thing about ball dominating college players is that they often have to put their playmaking skills on the backburner cuz they need to score almost every time down -- #1 example imo is Steph curry

yeah--that's the gamble with kemba, we just don't know.

thing that worries me most abt kemba is is size

^def

otoh <3 him fth

yeah i could on the other hand easily see him ending up having one of the top 3 careers in this draft so idk

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
Not sure I quite believe this yet, but Minnesota is apparently telling NBA teams that they are taking Enes Kanter #2 over Derrick Williams.
3 minutes ago

They must really want to trade down.

fuck trading down well just pick a worse player

kaahn

Kanter/Love might be the most adorable front line in the NBA.

Why would you tell everyone your draft pick? What is the point of that? Is this some bluffing thing? This fucking franchise.

I don't understand why GMs say anything at all. Why not keep the other teams guessing as much as possible?

Cavs intend to use No. 1, No. 4 picks

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The Cleveland Cavaliers have the No. 1 and No. 4 picks in the draft. But will they also snag another lottery pick?

Sources say the Cavs have been very actively trying to do just that, with a massive $14.5 million trade exception as the device. The offer? Give us your pick and we'll take back a bad contract into our trade exception, which permits the Cavs to take back salary of more than $14 million.

wow they could prob get a v top pick for that under the right circumstances

Biedrins? Okur? Kirilenko? Maggette? Hamilton? Lots of possibilities.

cavs w/three big name rookies would somehow be totally hilarious and awesome

like itd require its own behind the scenes tv show for sure

I like the idea of just going all in on a "bad" draft. Definitely a good buy low opportunity, considering some of the previous bad drafts turned out to be good drafts, and it's not like the Cavs are loaded with talent anyway.

Also very wise to give up the trade exception / cap space in a year with slim pickings in free agency.

yeah i agree, im totally skeptical of any bad draft formulation, like it just takes a couple guys out performing their assumed potential by 25% to turn it into a good draft

cavs want to be okc lite

smart play

Joe Dumars should say "what if I give you TWO bad contracts".

hmmm i wonder how much a top pick in this draft is worth, $14m is a lot, end of the 1st round picks have been selling for ~$3m in recent years iirc - it almost seems like 14 might be too much for the pistons #8 pick

biyombo scratches his knees standing straight up? awesome

Atlanta dangling Josh Smith to Minnesota for No. 2 pick, eyeing Enes Kanter

The Cleveland Cavaliers are expected to take Lithuania's Jonas Valanciunas with the No. 4 pick even if Kentucky's Enes Kanter is still available, league sources said Thursday morning.

the university of lithuania

Milwaukee has a three-way deal with Charlotte and Sacramento, sources say.
27 seconds ago

Partial of deal: The Bucks get Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, sources say. Charlotte gets the 7th pick and Corey Maggette.

Bucks send 10th pick and John Salmons to Kings.

The Bobcats will have the 7th and 9th picks in the draft tonight as part of the deal, source says.

THIS TRADE IS SO HILARIOUS/RETARDED

Correction: Maggette may not be involved.

im confused

Rich Cho will have the 7th and 9th picks to help prove his genius.

@ChrisMannixSI
Timberwolves still discussing possible trade package that would send Monta Ellis to MIN for No. 2 pick, sources say.

kahn kahn kahn kahn

monta ellis michael beasly ricky rubio kevin love how is this not a championship blueprint

would watch tbqh

totally watchable but i mean so are trainwrecks

steph curry and derrick williams could be a nice core to grow w/for the warriors

it's tiiiiiime

so tired of this adele song

The Booing of Stern is one of my fave nba traditions

does any commissioner get cheered?

is there any owner worse than donald sterling?

POR & DEN seriously discussing point guard trade sending Andre Miller back to Den for Raymond Felton, source said. They would also swap 1sts

i support this

is there any owner worse than donald sterling?

nope

oh man, i miss felton on the knicks.

Irving #1

aw now we can't watch the twolves select irving and trade him for a dime and next year's 14th pick

he's gonna be a good player

oh nice kyrie's dad went to my school!

Adrian Wojnarowski
The Timberwolves have already alerted Derrick Williams' camp: They're drafting him with the No. 2 pick.

That pretty much means that the W's trade isn't happening.

woj: Cleveland has engaged in talks to trade Baron Davis this week, but there's nothing in the works, sources say.

lol good luck u guys

lol @ bilas--said wingspan then "bottoms up everybody"

lowe/williams front court is pretty damn sick.

ok we did the normal thing, but what will kahn do with him?????

so they're gonna play him at the 3 i guess

this is going really quickly, no?

whoa

JVG whiffing on the name

going pretty much according to predictions so far.

Whoa!

that's a surprise

They were talking about Jonas Valanciunas like it was a sure thing and then after he didn't get picked they acted like it was no big thang.

everyone on twitter saying they picked him for another team

@adrianwoj The Cavaliers have been shuffling everything for days to make sure they get Jonas Valanciunas with Irving.

david kahn will screw this up

i guess the cavs don't want another rookie?

david kahn will screw this up

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:00 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i'm just hoping i dunno that he will screw up screwing up maybe and do the right thing by mistake?

raps stay true to form

i would so ahte being a raptors fan

the raps are the worst yeah

Maybe raps trading with the cavs, but who would they be giving up?

lol @ mark jones speaking slowly and clearly

i don't get why they would do that instead of just picking the dude, but i had the same thought xp

ahhhhhh awkward

LMAO

I DUNNO......... BALL

Disappointed the NBA is promoting a line of really ugly hats on the draftees tonight.

Hahaha "How is your game like Chris Bosh?" "I dunno, I'm not so strong"

oh man that interview :(

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hahaha "How is your game like Chris Bosh?" "I dunno, I'm not so strong"

how is your game MVP like Chris Bosh?

chris bosh gave his tv the gasface

"I dunno...I will leave to go play with friend in a few years...I dunno"

SMOOCH

where's the WS thread

jan gets drafted, makes out with hottie

i fuckin' love this guy

Jan wins for that girlfriend kiss.

jan vesley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziQkBYd19SI

did everyone see his youtube highlight video (linked on grantland) which is set to what's happenin by the ying yang twins?

whoa this guy's highlights are fuckin wild!

Jan Vesely's girlfriend is basically the most popular non-Redskin sports figure in DC right now, I figure

is his girl like 6'5"?

I like the John Walls game.

this dude is my new favorite nba player

^^^cosigned

vesley is okay, we'll see if he can actually play basketball

just a classic eastern euro sneer in that interview

I like the new DC hat.

this shit is so dumb

JaVale McGee34 my mans got hops.... and his girl like 6'5...-P

just make the trade, now this guy has to put a kings hat on

glad javale is keeping up on things!

we are bismack and the biyombos!

i wonder if bismack knows what's going on

BISMACK

Charlotte's gonna average 54 points a game. Might only give up 65.

it's so lol that the bobcats traded tyson chandler away for literally nothing, & then traded up in the draft to take a worse version of him

OK so basically the description of Biyombo's career makes him sound like the Congolese Kyrie Irving, but with "No offense at all"

AMAZING VOICE

so many furriners up in here

FOREIGNERS FOR EVERY PICK PLEASE

i'm scared to read twitter before every pick

Anthony Morrow
Best draft day kiss ever lmao

Oh God is Jimmer going to Detroit? That would be epic.

Knight to Pistons, according to twitter.

NO SNITCHING itt

I hope Kemba ends up being one of those dudes who plays angry for the first few years because he slipped on draft day.

haha okay, j, I'll stop.

mercurialblonde @HPbasketball Bismack Biyombo, spelled D-I-O-P

Made me laugh.

kemba still hasn't slipped just yet

i like brandon knight -- he couldn't run your team or be the first or maybe even the second best player, but i could see him dominating games in spurts & he can def shoot the ball

stuckey on the block?

wait who are the bobcats drafting for? this is so fucking retarded

Bobcats are drafting for themselves at 9.

i could see knight ending up like stuckey -- he plays a few great games and you go "this guy could be a star point guard!!" and then he starts for you for a whole season and you go "ehhhhhhhhhhh"

Detroit was trying to move Stuckey before, so the pick makes some sense. Aren't going to even get pennies on the dollar for Stuckey now.

i have no idea who is on the bobcats' roster

kemba walker to the bobcatz

KEMBA

kemmmmmba!

i could see knight ending up like stuckey -- he plays a few great games and you go "this guy could be a star point guard!!" and then he starts for you for a whole season and you go "ehhhhhhhhhhh"

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

feelin this

"Hey so is it cool if you score all the points?"

KEMBA TO BIYOMBO, WHO SLAMS IT DOWN

but srsly who else even plays for the bobcats now?

this is such an MJ pick

so many PGs

all the mocks have been so, so off

Kwame Brown is apparently on the Bobcats. That is just the best.

chad ford like apologized for his mock earlier!

lol if jimmer went to charlotte instead. the next wally z or adam morrison?

Kemba's suit suggests to me that he had some idea where he might be drafted. Lookin' coordinated.

chad ford like apologized for his mock earlier!

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:27 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol i saw this

"this feels like the day i gave birth to him" o___O

ha kemba's mom is so ny

jmr

didn't tyreke fall off a bit in his second year?

so they have jimmer, tyreke, and cousins. that is just such a weird group.

haha bucks scooped the jazz on JMMR

oh lord it really is a strange group of guys

they were drafting for the kings, hibach

ah thnx watching listing on nba.com

no bilas

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Sacramento coaching staff isn't happy with the selection of Fredette, sources say. They wanted a veteran guard, ala Felton or Parker.

this will turn out well

didn't tyreke fall off a bit in his second year?

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

his FG% was way down yeah

Who is even on the Sacto coaching staff.

holy shit is tyreke plus jimmer really for real, i love it

PLEASE next season on "the association" your sactown kings!

sarge who should the wolves pick at 20??

The Bobcats are going to suck so bad next year. I do like Silas coaching some talented young guys, even if they're going to make last year's Bucks look like Showtime Lakers.

Oh right, Westphal. lol

If the Kings do move to Anaheim, though, Jimmer Fredette is a pretty solid pick for jersey sales.

jimmer's bro is frightening

sarge who should the wolves pick at 20??

― the beta banned (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:31 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think they're gonna try & shed that pick -- kahn doesn't want any more rooks

what does kahn want tho

as many small forwards as humanly possible

oh, cool, didn't know klay was michael thompson's kid! that's awesome!

i've never seen one highlight of klay! hope you really can shoot bro!

CHARLOTTE

charlotte.

Would love to see them just say fuck it and play him at SF with Ellis and Curry.

Utah ran out of white guys to draft.

FREE KAWHI

gotta say, i thin alec burks is gonna be terrible

he looks incredibly slow footed for an athletic swing player imo

oh lord stew

MARK JACKSON

CANT QUIT U

can i be rly real with u guys...i have been modeling my speaking cadence after coach jackson for my summer school classes

"we appreciate what monta brings"

A RINGING ENDORSEMENT

i'm so excited for the mark jackson era in GS

it is going to be a fantastic ride

i thought this was the worse bro?

Really like the Morris twins handshake. Also now the Suns have a Morris and a Lopez...

so we're at the point of the draft where like 3 of these guys will still be in the league in 5 years i guess.

one of them is more talented but was less productive in college, i don't know which is which tho

i think someone in the second round will end up being one of the 5 best players in the draft

THE MORRIS TWINS HAVE MATCHING TATTOOS JUST BTW FYI

C_SING31 Where am I going to be drafted? Lol

aww marcus is so sad!

btw what kind of name is Markeiff, really

Also apparently the Morrises are as scary-close as the Lopezes were.

this is incredibly touching!!

i know, crying morris twin so cuet!

'it ain't the end of the world' is just so, awwww

nba draft is the best, more crying moms and family and hugging and its over in a few hours

unbelievable!

WOW

YAY WONDERTWINS!!!

"Yes they do!"

FREE KAWHI

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:42 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol at the rockets drafting ANOTHER 6' 8" PF tho

kawhi freed while ilx took a break

spurs send george hill to indiana for kawhi

kawhi to the suns for george hill

btw i want to be adopted by angel morris? is that okay?

good move for the spurs from everything i can tell, and i assume that means they're keeping parker too?

yeah they needed to get younger & hill felt kinda redundant on the spurs?

congratulations, you just drafted spencer hawes jr

KNICKS ARE UP

i REALLY like singleton

ok so tell me about kawhi i dont watch college bball

singleton could D up lebron right now

i don't think anyone saw very many san diego st games tbh

Shumpert too dorky a name for nba, sorry dude.

Huh

Spike did not seem thrilled there.

yeeeeeeeah idk about shumpert

ppl have been comparing him to ronnie brewer

he was the #1 player on the absolute worst team in the ACC this year -- idk

kawhi is maybe gerald wallace--tough rebounding small forward. doesn't shoot well right now.

a defender! that's good enough

im seeing kawhi talked about as a sf stopper guy which wd be dope imo

OK so you just took a guy who can guard, who is not Singleton...I mean I know they play different positions but it's weird.

geez they couldn't prep some video of this guy?

Impassioned Jon Barry defense of Shumpert, followed by...awkward silence.

the knicks hired bill gates?

Best Case: 6-5 Version Of Kyle Lowry
Worst Case: Keyon Dooling

good job isiah

i have no idea what "6-5 Version Of Kyle Lowry" even means -- that's only barely english to me

this seems like a good pick for the wiz

esp if vesley bombs out

So Shumpert > Singleton?

Much like...
Frederic Weiss > Artest?

I don't...
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

i think you could always use a great defender that can d up the 3/4 equally well

i saw singleton live earlier this year & while he might've had a bad game he also could not hit a shot from anywhere, incl free throws

i think he can stick in the nba tho, he shows flashes on offense

i saw the wiz in person last year and those guys are soft as fuck so singleton can only help

truth

singleton is an ugly motherfucker who is 100% more athletic than he looks

the wingspan stat isn't that impressive considering that i think every single draftee has a wingspan 3 inches longer than their listed height

yeah, i saw fsu-miami and both teams have some fringey nba players on their teams, but you looked at singleton and went "yeah, that guy"

ME IRL

http://twitgoo.com/2d839s

some twitter feeds saying shumpert is not even a 1st rd pick. OMG is this another Ronaldo Balkman in the making?

here we gooooooo....HOWL CRUNCH HOWL

or another jordan hill

KAHN BE STASHING

does stern have a coach backstage that trains him on name pronunciation

chad ford always says that the wolves have the best int'l scouts in the nba

does stern have a coach backstage that trains him on name pronunciation

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:29 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark

that AND i bet that they have the phonetic pronunciations on all the cards

hey who is this foreign dude?

yo blazers on the clock time to pick up someone to trade to new orleans for a second rounder and cash in two years!

faried goes hard in da paint

m@tt, everyone says that donatas is the second coming -- for better and worse -- of andrea bargnani

but twitter says they're gonna trade him

chadfordinsider Motiejunas will be traded to the Rockets. Unclear on other details.

everyone was saying pre-draft that the rockets were trolling for an international big

lol at mirotic's face

hmmmmm the plot thickens

lol "what do the blazers need right now" ... "a doctor"

@SpearsNBAYahoo: Hou getting flynn. Miller to minny

O_O

haha who said that xp

The Rockets and Wolves have agreed to trade J Flynn and Montiejunas to Houston for Brad Miller, 23rd pick and future 1sst, source says

uh i think it was barry, kev

DAAAAAAAMN

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Rockets and Wolves have agreed to trade J Flynn and Montiejunas to Houston for Brad Miller, 23rd pick and future 1sst, source says

brad miller AND two first round picks = damn

kahn ballin out this draft

NOLAN SMITH?

esp if the 1st is next year because we don't have one because of the marko jaric trade

hmm

paul allen LOVES athletic little guards

"a solid citizen"

the rockets are so weird

i don't think nolan smith is an nba player tbh - what's the word on him?

nolan smith is so blah

in the past 6 months they've traded for jonny flynn, terrance williams and hasheem thabeet

all the blazers twitter folks are pretty "well whatever" about this so yeah, he'll spend two years here and then the raptors or pacers can enjoy his services.

Nuggets get Andre Miller back from Portland for Raymond Felton. Probably swap picks.

so the rockets have three ex-top 10 picks, none of which they drafted, and all three might suck

i like nolan smith... i feel like if cj watson can be a back up pg in the nba that nolan smith should stick around

serious reaching on Nolan- too slow to get by guys in the NBA, and as good now as he's gonna be. Upside might be 4th guard in a 3 guard rotation. He'll be able to run the plays in practice.

god, the nba draft night is always so ridiculous

But that might be a tad negative - hard for me to see positives on Dookies.

Nuggets get Andre Miller back from Portland for Raymond Felton. Probably swap picks.

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38 PM (4 seconds ago)

hmm not that either is a partic good PG but this makes them slower, doesn't it?

yeah... miller could be good tho as a 'run the offense type'

do you mean the nuggets? portland couldn't be slower if they tried.

i think they thought that felton was a slower, older version of ty lawson + apparently he wasn't cool w/ not being the #1 option at PG

haha yeah the nugs obv

Miller on last year of his deal, right? He could be flipped again.

KISSIN BABIES

WAKA FLOCKA FARIED

faried is probably going to portland in the miller/felton trade

faried!

awww no he is meant to be a nugg

he totally is, but chad ford has been adamant about the blazers being in love w/ faried since last year's draft

lol @ the hypeman with the baby blanket

He'd be perfect in Denver. Hope they don't trade him :(

he's exactly what portland needs imo

i wasn't that impressed by faried in the ncaa tourney, but i hope he's awesome

"you can't teach relentless - no one's saying 'come on kenneth, be more relentless'"

-bilas

ha, i loved that

god, tim duncan was so fucking sick

sam_amick: Source confirms Denver's Raymond Felton will go to Portland in exchange for PG Andre Miller. The picks will not be swapped.

aw :(

congrats nuggs!

preparing for losing nene imo

yessss destiny fulfilled

(sorry clay)

Raptors should pursue Nene.

i want nene on the spurs, need some dreads shaking in sa town with kawhi

i fucking LOVE nene

STERRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

nene is the best, no question there

rockets are becoming the southern raptors in this bitch

The Celtics need Nene - hell 99% of the league does - but who has cap space or trade exceptions?

MY HEAD IS SPINNING

THE BULLS TRADED UP

can i remind everyone that ron artest is now known as Metta World Peace

i don't want this to be lost.

feel like we might need a Metta World Peace thread just to all of the Metta World Peace news doesn't get lost

oh, the bulls got nikola

http://twanatells.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Ron-Artest.jpg world peace y'all

I can't wait for the future articles about the Metta World Peace melee in Detroit.

Ha! Xpost

FUCKING BILAS

human beings do not have wings

does serge ibaka just show up at things?

well at least i know that dude's hygiene habits now thx espn

i really, really, really, really, really, really like reggie jackson

saw that dude just ball the fuck out 1 on 5 in college vs every team

Good thing they'll have Westbrook to mentor him and break those habits.

really was hoping he would actually fall to the heat but it didn't seem realistic to me

6ers fan here, can this 7-foot oaf play even a little??

nobody knows

celtics are apparently trading this guy to the nets

Did anyone mention that the Iman Shumpert pick has Isiah Thomas written all over it? I don't feel like scrolling up.

i think i made a lazy isiah joke, yeah

i don't think anyone saw very many san diego st games tbh

I did. Dude is a beast but not very polished.

SpearsNBAYahoo Nets get Marshon Brooks with 25th acquired from Boston.

What are the C's getting in return?

Have confirmed that Mavs dealt the pick. Still working on nailing down the details.

lol every pick in the 20's is being dealt

xp the 27th and a future 2nd

jajuan johnson was another dude i saw being projected for the heat

STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein
Mavs are trading No. 26 to Portland to acquire Rudy Fernandez, with Portland moving the pick on to Denver in the Miller/Felton deal

seeing some rudy fernandez for hamilton burbles now??

xp

Hamilton should be a good fit in Denver. Goodbye JR Smith.

WHOA

rudy to the mavs????????

that's terrifying

or can i not read?

mavs get another gunner. fun!

dunno how i feel about this!

Rudy droppin bombs in Dallas should be amazing.

yeah portland gets the mavs' pick, which they flip to denver in the miller/felton trade.

i think ppl are underrating marshon brooks - he lit up some very good big east teams - not much of a defender but has a nice body that i think he could grow into with some good coaching

rudy shot 32% from 3 last year so

rudy on the mavs outright terrifies me

stu's joke just bombed so hard

wow, stu just got a tri-gasface

rudy's been just outright awful for two years, but playing the peja role is what he's really built for.

still dude shouldn't be playing more than 15 mpg in the nba.

i think all three of the guys on the set were like "well, someone will laugh" and then no one did

The Bulls are taking this pick for the Wolves. The Wolves will then send to the Heat. So the Heat get Norris Cole at 28.

this is getting so ridiculous

whoa this dude rocks a flat top

wow, this is so fucking funny

this is the inception of nba drafts

TRADES WITHIN TRADES WITHIN TRADES

DeJuan45 DeJuan Blair
IM SICK SWEAR IMMA MISS MY BRO!! @George_Hill3

:C

here's the matriculation of this pick:

heat send to the raptors (for bosh), raptors send to the bulls (for james johnson), the bulls send the pick to the wolves, the wolves send it to the heat

lol wut

this is the inception of nba drafts

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
TRADES WITHIN TRADES WITHIN TRADES

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:14 PM (1 minute ago)

lol otm

...and the Heat use it to draft a guy they could have got in the second round.

xpost

my head is spinning, what is kahn doing????????

it was a smart move by kahn -- you trade down 3 spots but don't have to pay a guaranteed contract for a first rounder

yeah i just can't even keep track of what we have or not!

FUCK ALL JOSEphS COREY AND YOUR BITCHASS BROTHER QUITTER

Good call on that J0rdan. Not sure why the Heat do it though.

me either

I LOVE DAVID STERN

BOO

BOO

BOO

he's just soaking it all in

god, stern is the greatest

I love Stern. He's so gangster.

i hope to get to that point in my life

i think the heat traded up because norris cole was a guy that they really liked & they didn't want to risk him not being there -- all they gave up was a future second rounder which is as good as a snickers rapper to them

when i was a kid we saw a staged version of peter pan somewhere and there was this whole thing with whenever captain hook came onstage you hissed and booed and he just drank it up and it powered his performance. it was great.

i think of that dude whenever i see The Booing of Stern.

wait i'm confused--cole is going to miami?

per hollinger:

Minnesota now has four #2s, cash, more cash and Brad Miller's insurance money to show for #20.

idk if this is a good thing or a bad thing, honestly

yes xp

lol at "snickers rapper" btw :-(

this "kevin love in the shower" commercial makes me feel weird things

OH LOOK THE BUCKS TOOK ANOTHER WHITE GUY

espn's coverage has been super foolish tonight bcuz they're acting as if trades haven't broken on twitter like 20 mins before espn goes into some tidbit about the specific team

sorry i just found out about this

yeah i hate when they have to talk about how some dude fits on a team he's never going to play for

nice to get rid of Magette and Salmons but Stephen Jackson wtf!? he's not going to play for Milwaukee!!

i love how adam silver gets a huge cheer

damn they really broke silver in easy, huh?

lol wolves trade the #31 to the nets it's like kahn's just pressing the Trade button every 6 or 7 minutes.

espn background music sounds like a sped up version of "hot in herre"

kahn has made approximately 47 trades tonight

did anyone catch the pink highlighter colored uniforms in that clip?

i'd hate to be the guy who has to do kahn's paperwork

i wonder how the tenor at the draft is going to change when silver eventually becomes commish

jwquick Called Andre Miller re: trade and left a message. The call back was from his mom. She had no idea he had been traded to Denver.

Oh man!

also Ron Artest is changing his name to "Metta World Peace". god bless the NBA

this is amazing/hilarious

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
Really like Bogdanovic (#31) as a prospect. Not sure he ever comes to play in the NBA? He has a lot of other interests outside of basketball

SebastianPruiti SebastianPruiti
RT @rafael__uehara: Nets draft Bogdanovic with the 31st pick. Bojan signed with Fenerbahçe Ülker this week. He isn't coming over.

also i haven't read this thread but does anyone know what Kahn is doing? is this another thing like last year when he ended up with like 8 point guards?

SINGLER

I don't think anyone can figure out what Kahn is going to end up with. Might be a foreign big and some sheep dip.

singler will wash out very, very quickly if he can't hit nba threes

i love how kahn is now an ongoing topic every draft ... what a character

kahn's strategy is pretty transparent actually -- he doesn't want any more young players, so he's basically took a pick that he had against his own will (the #20) and kept trading back & back until it functionally doesn't exist

but what's the end strategy here?

nothing

get brad miller

from everything i've read, kahn wants some vets -- he already picked up brad miller, i think they'll try & move beasley for a vet

Can't wait for Simmons' draft recap tbh

that american kid who played in japan and israel hasnt been taken yet huh

at the end of the draft, kahn will have no picks, no money, and a self-satisfied grin, like he's successfully executing his master plan.

sry jsut catching up here

it's not really a crazy strategy -- i mean it's been funny to watch, but i don't think there's really anything wrong with punting a pick

teams do it all the time by picking rando international players -- kahn just kept trading his back

my parents are friends with this Indian couple who have this rule that if you give them a gift they will ALWAYS send something back a week later. you send baby clothes, you get a teapot. you send earrings, you get an MP3 player. it's so fun to give them gifts because you never have any idea what you're getting back. kinda wondering if this is Kahn's draft strategy?

to be fair he did get one of the two best players in this draft.

Wiz be killing it.

wow that was kind of a bill simmons impression

honeycutt just went int he 2nd round, steal of the draft according to hollingers ucla sucks formula

i liked him and malcom lee a lot when i saw them in the tourney this year

the second round is such a crapshoot -- there's literally like 2 worthwhile players a year MAYBE -- it's kinda fascinating

i'm surprised tyler hasn't gone yet -- just on sheer size he'll be in the nba for a while imo

yeah workouts/interviews must not have gone well

silver needs stern's pronunciation coach

rudy5fernandez thanks all blazers fans for ur support this 3 years!! So happy to be in the best team in the nba!!!dallas!!!

2nd round extra dull this year.

aw, rudy!

like jeremy tyler on the warriors

i like rudy on dallas

yeah mightve got a steal w/tyler there

they need some big bodies at least

bucks sticking to their "white guys who can't run" strategy

Jeff "The Whole Package" Van Gundy.

i dunno guys, rudy goes down as one of the greatest disappointments in blazers history. and considering their history that's saying something!

ShamSports Mark Deeks
Nets just bought the #31. Ironically, New Jersey sold the #31 (Tibor Pleiss) for cash just last year. That's the Prokhorov effect.
7 minutes ago

hahahaha

by ironically, i think he meant "stupidly"

loll

Hoopdata Joe Treutlein
So @DraftExpress informs me via tweet he's exceeded his tweet limit for the day and is in Twitter jail. Not joking.
1 minute ago

I hope Warriors fans chant Charles Jenkins name like Leeeeeerooooooy Jenkins.

Do the timberwolves actually have anymore picks??

they have all the picks, all of them!

wouldve been cool if they tried to trade the 2nd pick for the entire 2nd round

SebastianPruiti SebastianPruiti
Fading quickly...laying down watching the rest of this draft...
2 minutes ago

SebastianPruiti SebastianPruiti
OK, seriously, going to bed tonight...look for a Jan Vesley "Overseas Scouting Report" tomorrow morning...
16 minutes ago

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/rounds this shit is so ridiculous chad ford likes like every pick yet he knows that half of these guys wont even be in the league in five years, it just dont make sense

fun fact: derrick williams is the only US-born player in the top 7

Irving was the right choice for the Cavs. He's going to be a very good NBA point guard. He has...
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p.s. Bismack Biyombo

Warriors should hire Charles Oakley to coach Tyler imo. Makes perfect sense with Mark Jackson already there.

'Reke/Jimmer/Salmons is awesome imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rirsA8YaM

liking this bismack fellow http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6679686/your-deal

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0624/espn_g_biyombo2_sy_576.jpg

That bismack interview is so great - kinda wish MN had taken him now!

Best thing Henry Abbott's got in a while:

By the way, when video guy extraordinaire Jade Hoye and I spent all that time with Charles Jenkins, Jade noticed Jenkins had no tattoos, and asked why. Jenkins' response: "You ever see a bumper sticker on a Maybach?"

so apparently the guy the wolves drafted 57th Targuy Ngombo is 5 years older than he told everyone, too old to be drafted! lmao

You can be too old to be drafted?

yah cut off is 26 apparently

hmm. Odd little tidbit.

well there goes one of my longshot plans for financial security

Rough. Well, at least they don't owe him a contract.

pretty sure (a) kahn knew that and (b) drafted him for that reason

this t-wolves draft is so amazing

best international scouting dept amirite

haha

The timberwolves should make their draft party a rave next year

lol

would rave it up w/ kahn