NFL 2014-5 playoffs: DIVISIONAL ROUND

hard not to go chalk with these picks

there is only one i am not sure about - can you guess which?!

btw congratulations to the lone individual who correctly predicted CAR BAL IND DAL for the wildcards

CAR SEA is going to be one of those games that seems close the whole time but seattle will never actually look like losing it
i think dallas is actually pretty legit but they will get killed. that is a nailed on shoot out and they will not be able to keep up.
actually, DEN IND has upset potential, denver definitely stuttered a little to close out the reg season, albeit while still finding ways to win for the most part. having said that, probably they come out and put 40 on the colts

now NE BAL...
this goes 2 ways imo. either NE scores a lot of points (not out of the question) or baltimore wins. i can almost close my eyes and watch this game play out with NE getting owned up front and struggling to score in the first half, maybe just a FG by half time, coming back with a couple second half TDs; meanwhile ravens not moving the ball consistently but four scores off of 2 long completions, a big PI, and a turnover. so basically the score will be either 20-17 or 24-17.
idk, on balance i still give the edge to the patriots but it is very easy to imagine it playing out exactly that way

NE CAR DAL IND

bold

its destiny

paving the way to the XXXVIII rematch everyone is hoping for

NE v BAL could be really interesting. I'm guessing if you're a Pats fan that's the team you were most afraid of in the divisional round.

that is fair. if you are prone to pessimism, ravens are definitely a black dog for the pats

if you are prone to optimism, NE beat and scored 40+ points on every one of the other afc playoff teams in their last meetings, all in the last 14 months

NE CAR DAL IND

― lag∞n, Thursday, January 8, 2015 9:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so, upsets in every game except the one you don't want an upset in (and is most likely to have an upset, tbh)

bold stance goon

trenchant

NE SEA DAL IND

Saturday, obvious. Sunday, upsets.

kyle shanahanranahn quits browns, off season going well in cleveland as per. dad shan is shopping him and kyle as a package deal apparently.

also, i missed this before, but mike tannenbaum as a 3rd wheel at miami is hilarious

Lines, if you're interested:

Patroits -7
Seahawks -10.5
Packers -6
Broncos -7

Actually think the Packers one is too high, there's a lot of uncertainty about what Rodgers will or will not be able to do on the field. It seems like he'll play but he won't be able to move as well nor make all the throws he's used to. That said it's been brutally cold here in Wisconsin, which you'd think would be a big advantage for GB, but I don't think they've played a really cold game this year either

i don't see the ravens throwing deep successfully on saturday

was thinking like flacoo int game

http://robertmuellerreport.com/

Patriots QB Tom Brady on cold weather: 'I'm a (expletive) machine'

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that shit is soft like a twinkie filling

league aint want to know

jfc goodell

"guys you didn't do anything wrong except allow the police to investigate a crime. you gotta get out in front so you can spin that shit"

this is more like management consultancy than an inquiry

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love the fact that news of romney running again emerges from his meeting with the owner of the j-e-t-s

NE SEA GB IND

i pretty sure Denver will win that last game but rooting for Andrew Luck.

and anyone but the Cowboys please, i thought i didn't like the owner but now i know it's the fans who are insufferable.

well that was quick

wow yea

god please don't let that garbage franchise win

yeah not great. cmon pats

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 2m2 minutes ago
Ravens with impressive opening drive for TD. One thing that stood out: Patriots D opened game not knowing which personnel should be on field

football is hard

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

that's not a catch. garbage throw

those birds are very cruel

all 3 units starting strong

yeah didn't look like a catch here. wonder if torrey smith returns

haha pen on NE on only ravens play so far that wasn't positive yards

ok wake up defense

ravens o-line playing like champs

yep. what pass rush

8/8 100 yds

yes, that joe flacco pls

wilfork is 3 yards back when the tackle is made. just getting moved

i don't trust the colts or broncos to beat the ravens, the line must be drawn here AFC-wise. even though i think seahawks/ravens would be a pretty great SB, i just don't want them to succeed. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/252512140/08plainview_normal.jpg

rip pats

if jim nantz were doing this game hed be openly sobbing rt now

spending time with phil simms will do that to you tho

ok GRONK

huge

gonna be a good one huh

he carried that ball like it was a baby kitten

LOL

nice run Brady!!!

BRADY

so, is the D going to show up now?

fuck cris collinsworth

otm

did he just say it was a mistake to suspend Ray Rice? WTF?!?!

goodell looked like he was freezing

apparently brady now has the most postseason rushing TDs of all active qbs

accurate https://twitter.com/sheaserrano/status/554038213853978624

hahahaha so lame

looks like these dudes are finally waking up

they literally just kicked him while he was down

ravens are despicable

iirc the comment about rice was that it was a mistake to only suspend him 2 games at first

that's what I thought at first, but I'm not sure that's what he was saying

i think daria is right

yeah obvs

taunting is good btw shdnt be a penalty

Enjoy brassy getting hit

ravens get away with so much that the pats haven't, up to and including murder

otm

yeah seems kinda ludicrous that taunting is bad

ravens get away with so much that the pats haven't, up to and including murder
--LIKE If you are against racism (omar little)

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I don't like ray lewis or the ravens at all but I feel like a patriot in on trial for uh, um, murder

*is on

and could very well get off

no

even if he does (he won't), the Pats would never welcome him back to the team

yeah but they woulda taken lewis back

see my joke was...anyway, fuck the ravens is my point

Doesn't Edelman always drop the ball

phew

nice recovery

xp not particularly

xxxp can't argue with that they're pretty hateable even without the misdeeds of the two rays

I don't know if that's true about Lewis, I hope not. He's a terrible human being and the way he was celebrated a couple years ago was truly disgusting.

another baby kitten saved

ref helps up brady, soon will be picking up blitzers

already blocked for him on the td run

bolden running the ball like a true special teams specialist

heeyyyyy alright now

Amendola actually coming up with a good play, amazing!

xp not particularly

Think it's amend oka I was thinking Antony

2nd quarter close to a reverse of the first, wonder if direction of play is a factor, crazy wind maybe

Lol got heem

oops

balls. that's right you hold yr head brady

seemed like a pretty marginal call on revis

lol td into trip coverage

flacco must throw 4 ints in the second half to shut up these fool tv talking mans

big non-call there

ffs

w t f

guy was hanging on him from before the pass was thrown

jfc

amazing 4th & 6 call

this is so frustrating to watch

this game

lool untouched

being outcoached so hard. again.

wow! unsportsmanlike on harbaugh. amazing

i've never seen that

feel like that could prob be called a couple times a game at least

this is a good game

apparently harbaugh is mad because NE played that drive with only 4 offensive linemen

in the interest of narrative this would be a great time for a flacco int

i would take a safety

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hoooolleeee sshheeeeiiit

hahaha i thought edelman couldn't throw

that was amazing

they never do that

that was the greatest

class

that was sweet, props

is that why brady's always telling everyone edelman can't throw

sick

wow

that should happen much more often

mwah ha

yeahhhhhhhhh mccourty

this game

in the interest of narrative this would be a great time for a flacco int

― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, January 10, 2015 5:56 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goddammit

fuuuuuck

lool on revis

weak

chaos reigns

if you had told me before the game NE had 28pts after 3 i would assume they were cruising to an easy win.

that's just good play again

fuck these assholes

ok now make that count. unlike the turnover, idiots

down

no way that's a fumble

nice extension there. this may be the best I've seen Amendola (not saying much, I know...)

yessssssss

what a toss

cmon defense

bend, don't break

this is a good game

this is stressing me out

woooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

incredible.

ask brady how to throw that one iirc

what a game

I'm lovin it!

absolutely unbelievable

not over yet

phew!

pretty routine win

fuc both those teams, tbh, but fuc the ravens more

who on the patriots staff cant count

mookie otm

lag∞n
Posted: January 10, 2015 at 6:12:03 PM
flacco must throw 4 ints in the second half

2 ^_^

xxpost

that was a major fuck up, I was kinda scratching my head when they didn't bother running a play

phew! SO STRESSFUL

that game was insane

best football game

awww rodney harrison is so happy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7B9CEaCYAAAuLC.jpg

otm

go panthors

fantastic now contract that garbage franchise

nfl fans if you thought the last game was dramatic wait until you see carolina @ seattle

seatle why r u punting

never heard of four down territory

richard sherman <3

the greatest

go panthers, i am a fan of a team (which will remain nameless) that would host the panthers should the panthers win tonight

i too am root for the panthers on behalf of a potential future opponent

tbh i like seattles team tho

patriots game was real weird for a long time, like the vaunted ravens d-line did not do much but the patriots were unable to contain the same goddamn offense gary kubiak has run for years (excluding the first two td drives where the ravens got a ton over the middle, i think they were exploiting the pats looking for deep sideline routes). the ravens just played a ton of mistake-free offensive football, thank god the mistakes finally came.

good job kelvin

ravens D line was getting a real good push for much of the 1st half then the patriots switched to mostly throwing those super quick passes which p much neutralized them

weird thing was the ravens patchwork o-line was actually the more impactful unit. idk a lot of the pats D seemed like they were still on bye week, it is baffling to me how many points baltimore scored

they got middle push after stork went out but suggs and dumervil were mostly handled one on one which was really impressive.

the best this pair of OTs have played in 1 game for certain

the actual scoring plays for bmore were a bunch of sick catches on great throws, far more frustrating were the stretch plays and misdirection swing passes that used to get blown up when they were run by the houston texans.

joey flac will throw the ball into coverage without much hesitation. sometimes it works out. sometimes it does not.

ha srsly his much vaunted knack for drawing pass interference

that last deep ball that harmon got was inexcusable but they are truly of the fuck it i'm throwing it deep school

nice grab

sick sick sick

yow one handed

boo

dats gonna be overturned

o_O at chancellor hurdling the guy on the fg block attempt

do it again! do it!

AWESOME <3

OMG!!

guess just do that every time?

that was nutty

also

CAR SEA is going to be one of those games that seems close the whole time but seattle will never actually look like losing it

nfl needs more flying dawkins style

always

Packers game should be fun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7CYGqEIYAAd_1c.jpg

big garbage bag

cant sleep, more nfl

well that was shit

fuck off pete

carolina is playing really well

why didnt he run?

i like that they are trying to be somewhat aggressive. unless they hit some big plays these dink drives are just going to fizzle out vs this defense

wilson and willson!

even tho this game has been over since it began i think it is fair to confirm that that is game

the wilson brothers luke and owen

brian pitch to carl, throw downfield to dennis

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ijfxPpR2Sf0/VLHmuEMRg1I/AAAAAAAAszI/wRP2eK-DnSU/s1600/edelman%2Bamendola%2BTD%2BGIF.gif

that was the best

the panthers managing to make a game of this for as long as a half is remarkable enough considering they were 3-8-1 less than 2 months ago

that was an adult catch by greg olsen

nooooooooooo cam

kam on cam crime

nope

lol

hooollllyyyy shit cam

these safetys

safeties?

what a weird word

<3 cam. benjamin looks real good. hope they can dig up an o-line and maybe another playmaker over the summer, i would like to see this team do well

yeah hopefully they can unfuck their cap a bit because the foundation is still pretty good

Baltimore Ravens coach John Harbaugh objected to what he called a "substitution trick" by the New England Patriots in the third quarter of Saturday's AFC divisional playoff game, saying it was "clearly deception" that he hopes the league examines.

omg what a baby

"The Ravens were so confused on defense that even the officials were audibly instructing them not to cover Shane Vereen."

lmao

loool

!!!!REX IS NEW BILLS HC!!!!

he couldn't stay away from the east

that defense is going to be gross to play against but would've thought the one thing rex would've wanted in his next spot is an nfl qb or a high pick

sounds like he wants to bring in trestman at oc so hopefully that means they sign josh mccown

omg please make this happen

talk radio hosts across the region are shedding tears of joy that rex isn't going anywhere

I think he wants more chances to potentially beat belichick by having multiple guaranteed games against him per year...but aside from that and the quality of that defense idk what the attraction is

seriously tho let's go eat a goddamn snack

well he gets to continue his patriots obsession and show up his old employer, both of which would be more important to rex than taking the job with the best chance to win.

or, as i read elsewhere, he picked a team with a top-5 defense and will take credit for them continuing to be a top-5 defense

was he in the running for a better job i mean who wants to hire rex he is disgusting

if by disgusting you mean incredible and hilarious, then yes

he was the rumored favorite for the falcons, which...would not be a better job, not really altho I guess you have a better QB in ATL

if atl had money to help him get some players on defense it was a much better job

seriously tho let's go eat a goddamn snack

^^^^^^

i'm delighted that rex is staying in the division he's way too entertaining

great news to wake up to. classic rex.

I mean 9 and 7 is wild card contention in numerous conferences - it's not like the bills completely sucked last year. if rex's work adds 2 wins next year, that's an appreciable gain & gets you a chance in the division even if the pats do their usual 12-5, so good for them.

!!!!REX IS NEW BILLS HC!!!!

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:41 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg

i think i hate this

cad otm. at atl he would have an offense just a couple linemen short of being very good and a project on defense that someone like him is perfect for, in a division that is begging to be taken over. that is the place to go if your agenda is playoff football and maybe a chance at winning something.

I mean his best option all things equal would prob be defensive coordinator rather than head coach, but idk how many of those positions were open (if any) in places that could use his talents

also he's prob too shortsighted to see that a coordinator job wouldn't necessarily be a downgrade for him

best i can figure beyond him trolling the division was this situation has a bigger downside but in some ways a bigger upside and more likelihood for folk hero status. i could see the atlanta situation deteriorating in a trestman-like fashion more than this one.

sick

Dominating drive by Green Bay

http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2015/0111/dm_150111_Marshawn_Lynch_E28098IE28099m_ThankfulE28099/dm_150111_Marshawn_Lynch_E28098IE28099m_ThankfulE28099.jpg

clutts

Seymour Clutts

http://deadspin.com/marshawn-lynch-to-every-postgame-question-im-thankful-1678790068?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

damn wake the fuck up aaron

GOOD SPOT

just a lil teaser of playoff cowboys there. more to come in the 2nd half i am sure.

idk GB got a major break on that catch that wasn't a catch

lol romo eyes closed

literally a no look pass

go pack go

that was beautiful (this applies to the Rodgers pass and both romo sacks)

<3<3<3<3 aaron rodgers

rodgers is playing great now

he does some insane things

that was unfortunate missing the conversion tho

amazing

wow dez

dez bryant though

looked like a catch to me

pritty pritty big call here

not sure u can overturn that

O_O whoah

brutal

i get it but the whole process of going to the ground concept sucks

true

i don't quite get it (i'm sure postgame will show it 10000 times) but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not like i want calls to go in favor of dallas

That was bullshit. He took like two steps, moved the ball to that hand, and then tried to reach for the touchdown. Seems like that should qualify as a catch.

lool @ cobb chucking the ball

that murray fumble turned the whole thing around. great game.

yeah that was a bad fumble, dude barely got a finger on the ball

Dez was more intent on trying to turn that play into a TD than on securing the ball

Packers dont stand a chance against Seahawks do they?

xpost
true, if he wasn't reaching for the end zone he prob could've had it

xp I don't think seahawks blow em out but they'll still win, most likely

Couldn't have worked out any better for the NFL.

always a delight

vinatieri smh

greg roman joins rex as buffalo oc. i am not sure how exciting that is given how the niners offense deteriorated

Why does Peyton keep throwing long trash

peyton.. not really on target at all

xpost i know right!? what's going on

apparently rod marinelli leaving dallas to be dc at tampa bay? that is bizarre all round

jason garrett is so upset and sad. it is delightful.

xpost i know right!? what's going on
--seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g)

he's playing through an injury, right? I guess that + old-ish might be the culprit

that is nice. luck just went big time.

and again. first class

dang these fans are mean to their quarterback

they are! i didn't hear any boos at foxboro yesterday down 14

he was lying on top of the ball, how could that possibly be a fumble?

wtf is mike talking about, how can that be a fumble, what does it matter if he had possession before falling on the ball?

yeah on replay it looked like his knee was clearly down before the ball came out

why does simms excuse away the luck INT as being like a long punt every time? you think the colts wanted to just give denver the football? what the hell

lol

ints are a very bad way to punt

I mean broncos haven't been able to capitalize on anything, including the various mistakes made by the colts. if colts think they can bank on opponents' screw ups, they're gonna have a bad time against touchdown tom and the hoodie if they win tonight

*but if

unbelievable!!

good run

ol noodle arm is having an exceptionally noodly day huh

Wow who was sucking on that fat cigar there

peyter manning

denvor toast

^^^ last two posts to the tune of 'nationwide is on your side'

I was confused by Peyton so I checked the temperature in denvr and its like a billion degrees

Why doesn't he just make his hand warmer idgi

and just think the colts did all this without their star running back smh

these teams seem bad

patriots/seahawks will be a solid super bowl. carroll's revenge!

i hope neither the seahawks or packers make the superbowl

indy has played really well. they were much better on defense than i expected, tight coverage and great tackling except for that 4th down. and andrew luck makes all of the plays.

he makes so many ill advised throws whats going on

andrew luck(ed into the championship game)

not really but he's an INT machine in some games

he made so many dangerous throws today and every other time ive seen him and he throws a lot of ints and today he threw a lot of ints

needs to wise up imo

they can't run the ball at all, it is remarkable they can get anywhere being so predictable on offense. against NE earlier in the year their top rusher was luck with 15 yards. he has made some great throws today when it has counted but denver defense has been surprisingly poor.

i saw an espn insider teaser that said andrew luck was basically brett favre and i loled

touchdown tom vs general a. luck, should be a weird AFC championship

pats just ran through them earlier

denvers play calling was pretty weird today they were having success running but they they wld not run

pats ran on 44 of 74 plays v indy week 11 5.6 yards per

pats def ran train on them during the season; colts look better past few games than they did then but...prob not enough to dethrone TT

early lines for next week are Seattle and New England both by a touchdown

deeply interested in the broncos offseason

really seemed like they had big holes leading into the playoffs, Manning just hasn't looked all that good for I dunno, like 2 months. I still expected them to win but figured the Pats would destroy them, same as they got destroyed the year prior.

just watched the second half of the broncos game on ff just to see manning's throws, my god that was some depressing shit

anyone who says a single positive word about the colt's defense this week is being ridiculous; they only had to defend the 8-10 yards in front of the line of scrimmage

Today was really the first time all season I'd heard any chatter about Peyton retiring at the end of this season, so I'm not giving it a lot of creedence until that really begins looking like the case. But wow, he was terrible today.

we can rebuild him, we have the technology

I'm sure he'll be back and he'll probably have another good season (as bad as he was today and the last several weeks of the season I'm not buying that he's toast quite yet.) but they should pray they've clinched homefield 2 games before the end of next season so they can fully rest him as well as habitually sitting him during blowouts, it goes without saying he doesn't look built for a full 16 games plus a full playoff run anymore.

anyone who says a single positive word about the colt's defense this week is being ridiculous; they only had to defend the 8-10 yards in front of the line of scrimmage

― call all destroyer, Monday, January 12, 2015 4:43 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha cmon that is unfair. even if that was true you can defend 10 yards well or poorly but no def coordinator during that game is just saying fuck it, cover 0 all the way baby. the point with the 8 yard passes is that in man coverage the defender was always right on top of the receiver and if the pass was completed the tackle followed immediately. it was better than i have seen from them in the past.

i guess, my point is it's hard to assess the defense based on what i saw because the broncos were not running nfl offense by the end of the game. peyton apparently doesn't have the arm strength to hit the sideline 10 yards downfield, at least i can't come up with another explanation for the decisions he was making.

no that is true but they did what they were asked to well i guess

in denver's first drive he hit that delightful long ball to i think julius thomas down the left to put them at the 1. p much every deep sideline ball after that was horrible.

not scrambling for the easiest first down of his life in the 3rd quarter was pretty disappointing

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-fickle-falcons-led-rex-ryan-bills-job-article-1.2074037

hilarious if true

highly believable account.

manning, torn quad, happened a month ago, theyre saying

poking around on some broncos message boards and the most interesting thing i learned is that the broncos fans have a pretty open crush on gary kubiak. i'd think the connection to the shanahan era would be secondary to the fact that he has not demonstrated he is a better than average coach.

it's just as much, probably more, the connect to elway, guys were very tight. and yes it's weird that ppl don't look at that houston experience and think twice.

fox out

peace

@VicLombardi: NEW INFO: Entire Broncos coaching staff let go. Not just John Fox. All assistants gone according to several players.

seems reasonable

46-18 record, four division titles in four years

marvin lewis just giggles

goddamn man RIP broncos

This should make Peyton's decision pretty easy, no?

player-coach, make it happen peyton

If anyone could

kinda hope elway drives them into the ground

would lol @ a kubiak hire.

wow i figured this was so they could turn it over to gase

mookieproof
Posted: January 12, 2015 at 8:48:36 PM
kinda hope elway drives them into the ground

wld be p cool

i guess burning everything down and starting over is proactive at least. i can't say i really understand it at all tho. i mean if they win the next 2 games there is no way that happens right? how can 2 games be the difference between carpet bombing your coaching staff and keepin on truckin

there's something else going on here

two words Coach Tebow

basically all 29 coaches who don't win each year should be fired because accountability

that a 38yo dude with a torn quad was a better option than the backup qb was also the coach's fault

31, sorry

figure john elway has some responsibility for that too tho

nah, he's a winner

maybe he should hire terrell davis as head coach

he was the only winner of keep your job russian roulette so props for that

i guess there is going to be a veteran exodus/firesale in the wake of this too. i think they have a ton of contracts up anyway.

they do have a bunch of starters up (6 or 7 iirc). some pretty easy decisions in there though, like remember when ppl thought julius thomas was really good?

wait isn't j. thomas still really good? what did i miss?

Only 489 receiving yards. He was basically a red zone target only this year.

lots of td's tho

tds are valuable

huh. well i guess they have to spend money on at least demaryius and presumably terrance knighton out of those FAs coming up so maybe there is no JT money anyhow. someone will pay a lot for him i am certain.

why is there both a y and an i in demaryius thomas's first name?

I really did not see this coming, this is so weird

mookie how do you feel about lebeau? was it time for him to legeau? feel like he has had increasingly little to work with. who is good on pburgh defense right now?

my sense, despite watching essentially no games, is that the defense is shot. i mean it's cool that james harrison can come out of retirement and be a big contributor, but not a great sign.

i'm not sure quite what lebeau wants, at age 77, but i'll not say a bad word about him

i work with multiple steelers fans and they are very down on the defensive talent on the roster.

i am glad he is still going to work, he is for certain one of those old guys who are held together by work, who retires and then dies a month later.

idk -- he can easily pass for 20 years younger; he'll probably outlive me

who is going to hire him for a dc job tho

arizona i guess

gary kubiak head coach of denver broncos

for real??

lol sorry i meant that is who will hire lebeau as dc

u made me check twitter

oh lol ok, i'm on edge for an announcement like that because i really don't think elway fired the staff without a plan

fwiw kubiak committed himself to the ravens today, which i imagine is in fact not worth much

some of these broncos message board people really want brock osweiler to get a chance to start which for now i'm just going to chalk up to legal weed

shd get mcdaniels imo

lol and xp lol

cad iyo out of 10 how good an oc is mcd?

ummm my longform answer to that question is i think the patriots have had a lot of continuity in offensive scheme going back to charlie weis and it's tough to figure out who is responsible for what. that said mcdaniels is a solid 7 at least in my mind, i think he's a lot more creative than someone like bill o'brien. to the extent that o'brien was involved in the development of the gronk/hernandez no-huddle he deserves all the credit in the world (because that offense was set to be more or less unstoppable), but given varied personnel and skillsets i'd take josh. the really extreme gameplan offenses (running vs. the colts, spread passing vs. the lions and ravens) seem to be a product of his thinking and when they work they really work.

ty for taking the long form response option

i like the extreme game planning thats cool

denver prod shdve done that

maybe manning audibled out if it

'it's tough to figure out who is responsible for what' -> yes. esp with a vet qb changing things at the line. i agree that as oc he must be the guy who brings the dramatic change ups and it is definitely important to not stay still nowadays. i think he has a tendency to overcomplicate things at times which i am sure is related. maybe it is a product of the environment and the shadow of bb but he does not seem to stand as a great coordinator. as a hc candidate obv there are different qualities being considered of course. mind you it is not clear he has those either, except for having spent a lot of time with bb which is currency in itself. anyway, i have found myself hoping that he gets a hc job. mostly out of curiosity. overall i would not be too broken up about losing him. however, doesn't sound like he is seriously in contention anywhere.

that gronk/hernandez offense, a great what if oft pondered by me and i suppose the relatives of some dead ppl

think he has a tendency to overcomplicate things at times which i am sure is related.

this seems to be a general tendency with patriots coaches bill included.

lol yes. the patriot way.

i think josh could be a pretty good head coach under a smart gm. in his last job he was doing personnel too iirc which was....not smart

greg roman confirmed as rex's new oc. he has the tremendous upside of not being brian schottenheimer

elway opens press conference by saying 'first, i'd like to thank john elway -- i mean john fox'

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3849925/luckcivilwar.jpg

I don't remember seeing this posted, but this is a very ILFootball article.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/4/7490869/colts-bengals-andrew-luck-civil-war-general

Haha!

I really want to read a sequel about Denver heading into NE.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/13/jason-garrett-rod-marinelli-agree-to-contracts-with-cowboys/

Hang on, I thought Marinelli to Tampa Bay was a done deal! lol @ sports press.

nice save by the 'boys, just pay marinelli--he can coach defense.

more important than retaining garrett

todd bowles, your ny jets head coach

i've seen more ringing endorsements of a general manager: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/48379/analysis-mike-maccagnan-a-mystery-man-with-questions

a director of college scouting who hasn't found any players in rounds 3-7. sounds good!

rex's first words at bills introductory press conference:

*taps mic* 'is this thing on? because it's getting ready to be on'

decided to modulate his approach i see

Yeah but you can't really call Rex's shuffle off to Buffalo as a step down. Winning in NYC is not winning in Buffalo. I think it could work, but it could end up like his Dad. Buddy after nearly getting in a sideline fight with June Jones as a coordinator on one of Jerry Glanville's crazy ass Oilers clubs was one coach who also came and fell as a Cardinal head coach. His dad's record as a head coach was 55-55-1. Rex Ryan's record is now 46-50.

Gary Kubiak possibly going to Denver makes total sense if they don't promote the OC. Kubiak is Elway's old backup and was there most of his career. Kubiak pretty much went from backup to being a coach in Denver. I kinda always thought he seemed like a pretty smart coach at least style wise. I think that classic Denver style of zone blocking running game is a pretty good idea if you can get a line that can make it work. Kubiak had all sorts of QB issues more often injuries taking out his starter.

I got the Wild Card week games right. I didn't vote on division games but I would have picked Denver and figured Baltimore to be the possible upset possibility.

Carolina held up pretty decent for a while in that game with Seattle. Their linebackers are ace and can cover a crap load of field. If they can keep big guy healthy at QB and get a big athletic WR to give their game some oomph, they could be a good offense. Greg Olsen is really good, Bears shouldn't have let him leave. Stewart is a good back.

Indy's defense tackled really well last week and got some pass rush. Luck's got a big arm, he can through that tight deep ball like Dan Marino and Kurt Warner. He definitely doesn't rely on a high arc rainmaker for his deep pass.

Broncos plan seemed off after the first drive. They seemed to get alot of yards rushing but somehow couldn't get it going. They kept going for the deep ball when it was obvious Manning didn't have the fast ball. Denver couldn't get JACK for pass rush. I don't remember hearing DeMarcus Ware's name much at all during the game.