NFL offseason 2015: football will be right back after this brief intermission

except it never really goes away...

pretty interesting aggregation of key contract dates and deadlines in feb/mar seemed like a good reason to get on with an offseason thread:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25037617/agents-take-nfl-key-dates-and-what-they-mean-for-your-team

http://t.co/pOluEjiGRk

this link might be better

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9qXOI2IYAIZjYY.png

estimated cap space chart

cool title.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/sports/football/judge-orders-saints-owner-to-take-psychiatric-examination.html

hoo boy

Josh Gordon's grievance: "I wasn't punished for the six other times I was late in a five-week span."

brandon bostick, he of onside-kick-botching, done been released by the packers

i've been seeing these percentile web things going round on twitter, they are pretty cool

r. wilson
http://mockdraftable.com/player/303/
t. brady
http://mockdraftable.com/player/3376/

c. johnson jr
http://mockdraftable.com/player/1573/
j. jones
http://mockdraftable.com/player/450/
j. edelman
http://mockdraftable.com/player/4675/

jj watt
http://mockdraftable.com/player/591/
l. kuechly
http://mockdraftable.com/player/164/

aw gross, dumb links. you'll have to copy paste. worth it even if just to look at what insane beasts calvin johnson and jj watt were coming out of college

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/18/browns-expected-to-unveil-new-logo-next-week/

http://www.pivot.tv/sites/default/files/8546148_14607576_lz.jpg

noooooo. why why why

chargers and raiders proposing to share a stadium in LA. terrific news for fans of both.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-SoGDYIAAAY5W1.jpg

belichick wearing self branded hoodie! hilarious/amazing. i wonder if tom put him in touch with his guys.

the much more pressing issue is what the hell rex ryan is drinking, it looks like a frappucino

which seems unwise, there's so many calories in that rex don't make the lap band surgery all for naught

lol ppl will def buy that shit altho im hard pressed to come up w/ anyone in all of sports that it'd be more hilarious to have their own brand

it is so terrible too, i think it is within the realm of possibility that he put it together himself on neighborhoodies or w/ever. that same tee tho, grey with the black logo, i would totally buy that.

what do winston or mariota etc. gain by going to the combine?

nothing? seems like such a no upside proposition for already well rated qbs

shows a willingness to play by the rules and go along with the program
with winston especially i imagine that's a worry

it's true of every job interview but a portion of the combine has to be less about the specific stats and more about performance under scrutiny and pressure and a willingness to tamp your ego down in front of your boss

HA! I should start doing NFL brand makeovers for big money!

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/2015_Logos.html

http://prod.static.browns.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/press-template/OrangeCircle.png

yeah i would like to see the bills for this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2966059/Michael-Sam-join-Dancing-Stars-season-20.html
i dunno if this guy is gonna catch on a team if he's focusing on this in the off season? Maybe it's not as time consuming as i imagine it is.

or is general consensus that Sam isn't NFL calibre / NFL still isn't ready for a gay player

actually think in a weird way that it might help his chances, as part of his pre-draft combine analysis was that he was too stiff and lacked fluidity

but yeah he's probably never going to get a real chance

if there was anything there at all marinelli would've hung on to him at dallas. he was a late draft pick probably shouldn't have been drafted, i don't think there is any reason to look for other reasons if he doesn't make it. it is possible that a team might've been put off from even bringing him in to take a look but really after being cut by stl there's nowhere better he could've hoped to have hit a practice squad than the cowboys.

I don't think any owner or coach at this stage is afraid to take on a gay player, because the NFL is all about $$$ and buzz. Sam just isn't ready yet (and his window will probably close by the end of the 2015 season).

yeah I'm kinda feeling shades of Tebow here, if he was an NFL-caliber player there's no doubt he would be on a team.

you guys are wrong but whatever

http://i.imgur.com/GMknoej.png

so, um, this is gonna be the best film ever made right http://uproxx.com/sports/2015/02/marshawn-lynch-is-starring-in-a-movie-about-himself-and-the-trailer-is-pretty-special/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+uproxx%2Ffeatures+%28Uproxx%29

Great soundtrack too.

Taibbi on the combine

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/americas-second-greatest-reality-show-a-visit-to-the-nfl-draft-combine-in-indianapolis/

this dez bryant thing is getting weird

Taibbi's article reads like a homeopathic version of Hunter Thompson.

like HST with all of (actually more of) the acrobatic swearing and strained hyperbolic metaphors but none of the flashes of actual insight or depth whatsoever

this dez bryant thing is getting weird

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the mystery of it is def alluring. did shefty really say he's been working on this story since September? and hes not actually seen any vid? not sure how it could be kept so quiet for so long if it's legit as inflammatory as is alleged

so nobody knows what THE VIDEO is except that it takes place in a wal-mart?

wal-mart parking lot, young woman, worse than ray rice is what i heard

seems v sus that the entire season could occur w/o a peep on it but who knows

lol deadspin http://deadspin.com/if-the-dez-bryant-video-exists-well-buy-it-1688021515

if you have to ask...

Buffalo Bills newest acquisition

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sZBOQCfW--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/rgymlvqzlpcfpyum1dnv.jpg

rex ryan got his ride touched up
http://deadspin.com/rex-ryan-got-a-giant-bills-logo-painted-on-his-truck-1688303212

what color are rex ryan's truck nuts

at least he's figured out that the truck will be a lot easier to change than the tattoo

To be honest with you, I would be lying if I didn't tell you that I was expecting the ball. Yes, I was expecting the ball. But in life, these things happen. Like I told a reporter after the game, it's a team sport.
"I had no problem with the decision of the playcalling. I mean, you know ... I think it was more of a ... how do I say this? When you look at me, and you let me run that ball in ... I am the face of the nation. You know, MVP of the Super Bowl ... that's pretty much the face of the nation at that point of time. I don't know what went into that call. I mean, maybe it was a good thing that I didn't get the ball. I mean, you know, it cost us the Super Bowl. I mean, I have full ... I have full confidence in my teammates to execute that plan because we've done it so many more times. But would I love to had the ball in? Yes, I would have.
"But the game is over, and I am in Turkey."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/marshawn-lynch-to-turkish-tv-on-super-bowl-play---i-was-expecting-the-ball-190253725.html

Beastmode continues to be one of the more interesting characters on the NFL show.

@NBCdianna
If the Lions can't agree to a long term extension with Ndamukong Suh, the Hatcats are interested per sources with the organization.

i, for one, am shocked by this development

for sure: how long has nbc been calling the cowboys the hatcats?

Well at least if the Hatcats end up paying Suh they are getting a player in his prime unlike the cash the Snyd put into Bruce Smith and Neon at the end of their careers.

haynesworth best hatcat deal ever

never forget
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1011109/nflhaynesworth.gif

I think Suh has a bit more pride than Haynesworth, he wants to be great. Suh is many things, but I don't recall him ever being called a dead fish or a guy that takes lots of plays off.

It would be a ballsier and way more expensive move for Mike Brown ever to attempt, but I would think if you put Suh on the Bengals line with what they already got, that defense would be flat out scary.

Really just about ANY club could use Suh, it's just who is going to pony up the cash. i think the only question is does Suh fit into a 3-4 as well as a 4-3. That I don't know but I would like to hear from a defensive coach to say.

my uneducated guess is he's talented enough to play end in a 3-4 if a team wanted to try to put him in that scheme

wonder if the pats try and make a run at suh or if they just save their cash for revis island

i can't think of a scenario in which they have interest in suh

It's hard to say, it seems like some speed rushers do really well going from a 4-3 to a 3-4. I doubt that Suh has rarely dropped back into coverage in Detroit and a 3-4 end definitely drops back to cover people at some point.

My guess is that Suh is such a physical beast, it probably doesn't really matter where you put him on the line as you got to get two guys on him.

WHOA WHOA WHOA

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Eagles-to-trade-LeSean-McCoy-to-the-Bills-for-LB-Kiko-Alonso.html

seems like a salary dump first and foremost bc mccoy was meh by his previous standards but not like, really bad - who they clearing cap space for

if the bills can't make the playoffs this year, they have some serious 'splaining to do

not sure the upgrade from spiller to mccoy helps them as much as losing alonso hurts them

if the bills can't make the playoffs this year, they have some serious 'splaining to do

― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who's playing quarterback?

*rex shows pic of awesome wrapped f-250 or whatever, fans swoon* "what explanation do you need?" that should last at least one season.

if the bills can't make the playoffs this year, they have some serious 'splaining to do

― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who's playing quarterback?
--call all destroyer

...probably mark sanchez. I hope not, for the sake of buffalo's sanity, but I could totally see it

what a weird trade

chip has begun the acquire anyone decent who went to oregon phase of his reign

what a weird trade

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:53 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i can't form a more coherent thought than this

1. i'm high on shady, mediocre season or not
2. the 2014 bills were a 9 win team with a top five defense
3. awesome wrapped f-250 or whatever

I'd say chip is the kind of a coach who needs to be given a pretty free hand. He may fail or he may succeed, but if it isn't on his own terms he will almost certainly fail, so you may as well hand him the reins and see where he takes you. It may take him a couple of tries in the nfl to get the hang of it, but his whole value is his willingness to experiment.

xp a 9 win team with a top-5 defense is still their exact ceiling.

combined winning percentage of 2015 opponents is .480, only five playoff teams, ten wins doesn't seem out of the question to me.

Brian Westbrook ‏@36westbrook 3h3 hours ago
“@CCrulesNY: @36westbrook can we resign you?” Not so Chip can cut me for an Oregon player

damn, they do have a lot of oregon dudes on the roster

ducks east

I'm almost betting the reason to move McCoy is to open up some budget for another deal. The Eagles needed a LB and they got one on a rookie contract that might be decent.

RB just doesn't seem to be that respected a position now in the NFL. You have a good line and a guy that can carry the ball, go forward without fumbling and you can get a running game. Denver has gone through a bunch of different 1000 yard rushers. B-more switched gears with a backup and seemed to improve last year.

otm re modern rbs

saw interesting comment on twitter about how eagles are way out in front in the nfl for using biometrics to track player decline and saying that you really don't want to take a big ticket player whom they are willing to let go

Any rugby fans have anything to say about this guy: http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/NRL-Star-Jarryd-Hayne-Signs-Three-year-Deal-with-49ers/fe2ff155-d3a5-4468-a4d6-fe6c76ac4ce9

i would imagine someone that size playing those positions in rugby is going to project to an anquan boldin type. if he picks up route concepts well he could be a player.

i do not know the individual, he plays "rugby league"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/04/bills-acquire-matt-cassel-in-trade-with-vikings/

I don't expect this will be the answer to Buffalo's qb problem.

#betterthansanchez

or jake locker, or manuel, seems like he was the best of a weak market?

cassel move is fine but if the buffalo staff are not already working on a plan to play 2015 without a qb then they are doing it wrong.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_RwsAxWkAA7vbZ.png

^^ does not inspire confidence

jfc. give it a baby ruth already.

peyton apparently taking a $4m paycut to come back next season with denver

welp
http://dailysnark.com/nfl-stars-super-heroes/
http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Graham-500x500.jpg

NOOOOOOOOOO

:(

i love how he did his jpg statement

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_Vq-vOW8AI5SOP.jpg

so sad you guys

hope he writes a tell all about deflate gate in the jpg style

I don't like the world w/o Wilfork being a Patriot. That said, I would gladly welcome him in Atlanta.

lance briggs done in chicago. assuming he will retire now.

MJD has announced retirement

That's sad. Dude was underserved by being on unfortunate teams his whole career.

colts letting reggie wayne go, era well and truly ended now

donkey kong suh to miami seems like it is going to happen. not too pleased grandpa tom will be facing him twice.

brandon marshall to the j-e-t-s lol

cannot possibly see how this might go wrong

need cutler too imo

Mike Chappell ‏@mchappell51 5m5 minutes ago
July 6, 1996. Important date? The last time either Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison wasn't under contract with the #colts. Let that sink in

mook, Semi-Tough is showing tomw night in the E.V. Jill Clayburgh?

http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/calendar?view=list&month=03&year=2015#showing-43917

Reggie seems like a sure acquisition for Oakland, no? He's a WR and he's old.

Mike Chappell ‏@mchappell51 5m5 minutes ago
July 6, 1996. Important date? The last time either Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison wasn't under contract with the #colts. Let that sink in

― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, March 6, 2015 4:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea this is crazy

Chris Johnson apparently shot in the shoulder via a drive-by, his passenger in the car was killed.

fucking hell

oh shit

Crazy

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/packers-keep-randall-cobb-with-four-year-deal-worth--40-million-033833982.html

Randall Cobb staying put in Green Bay. I think Cobb being able to play for a winner on TV all the time could end up being lucrative in other ways off the field that could make up for the salary he could have gotten in Oakland or Jacksonville.

I got to figure Reggie Wayne will try to play somewhere this year, but it will be weird for him no longer to be a Colt. Got to say though, he didn't seem like the same player last year, the age seemed to catch up to him last year coming off the injury. How Wayne went into his last camp with the Colts last year was pretty classic.

lol sanchez staying with the lol iggles for 2 years, 16 million

only 5.5m guaranteed tho, so if he plays he gets paid like a reasonably costed qb and if he doesn't he is a reasonably costed back up.

much better deal than the wheelbarrows of cash they dumped at byron maxwell's feet. frank gore pick up is interesting, by all logic he should be done but can't help feeling he will do something there, and they didn't overextend on the contract afaict. apparently they really wanted mccourty too.

they also let maclin go which leaves a pretty anonymous wr corps

iirc they are paying riley cooper a lot of money? presumably chip sees something there. idk. jordan matthews looked promising last year.

houston rolling w/ brady bunch mallet and hoyer

rumours that patrick willis retiring at 30

just saw that, wow

he experienced a "religious awakening of sorts"

that is a weird twist to the tale. i always thought that 1) rookie contract 2) get paid 3) play 3-4 years of that contract 4) retire is actually a pretty smart approach for a talented footballer but i guess this is...something else

What the hell goes on in SF? A few years ago, Glen Coffee was drafted to back up Frank Gore and then retired after one year because of a religious awakening.

lol i forgot about that!

Oh, I never knew this, but wikipedia says Coffee went on to join the Army after completing his degree and is now a paratrooper.

crossing sports, but another bay area athlete retired & became a priest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Desme

yeah i guess glenn coffee wants to join special forces

as of 2013 http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/06/former_alabama_rb_glen_coffee.html

nfl veteran combine application - https://www.nfl.info/nflsurvey/pd/veterancombine.aspx

Good for Willis imo

you have no idea why he retired yet. he might be drinking cyanide flavour kool aid right this minute.

smith, willis and gore out :(

horrible weekend for niners fans

welcome to last place in the nfc west. what a mirage of a team.

http://deadspin.com/stephen-a-smith-floats-the-theory-that-maybe-chip-kell-1690305571

jesus christ

deadspin is the quintessence of an unreliable narrator

dropping desean not long after the riley cooper racist explosion and then signing riley to a long-term deal did look pretty sus, even if just as a result of the timing. the shady mccoy trade would take a bit of doing to stretch into a racist move.

...i think? idk. philly ain't the most enlightened place in the world. otoh stephen smith is a dipshit of considerable size

segue: not that it makes anything a done deal, but pats declined revis's option

Now it's being reported that Gore may not land in Philly, but in Indy instead (which, tbh, is probably a better fit). Still, Philly has already made it known they're interested in Mark Ingram as well, so wth is Stephen Smith even talking about.

julius thomas to the jags for $9 mil/year, lolz all around

@MikeKlis: Broncos not only didn't make an offer to TE Julius Thomas this offseason, they never made a call.

The idea that an NFL head coach in 2015 would be making personnel moves based on race is just crazy. It's the Eagles doing a salary dump to re-allocate the cash in other positions. Those two players were going to cost $20 million combined. My guess is they are going to get 4 good $5 million dollar a year players on the o-line and defense then try to draft someone fast in the middle rounds for the offense on a rookie contract. They will probably pick up a vet wideout for depth who has a low contract.

It does seem that the Eagles signing Sanchez and making this moves makes at least seem feasible they might be working to make a deal and get Mariotta. I'll believe it can happen when it happens.

I think the Bears dumping Marshall on the Jets was a similar type of salary dump. You got one good WR in Jeffrys, roll the dice and turn Marshall's salary into a DB and a LB. The defense is the thing that is most in shambles in Chicago.

You want an example of this kind of move, look at the Colts the past couple of years. That team was totally spent in that year Manning was out. They pretty much used mid-level free agents and rebuilt their defense in an off season by just doing that exact thing.

If the Iggles get Mariota somehow, tell the offensive line to protect him like the family jewels, because if they do he will take you to places you want to go.

mariota would have protection if he somehow ends up at the eagles, just maybe not targets. i don't see it tho, they clearly want to use their resources on defense and use mostly spare parts on offense after the line and lean on the system. brandon graham another good FA pick up on D. chip is going to be so pissed when he finds out all these big new signings are black dudes.

well i guess brandon graham makes one good pick up on D, at any rate

very happy to see Cobb staying in GB, IMO he's just as important as Jordy and I really did fear Ted letting too many good WRs walk

The Saints and Seahawks are working to finalize a trade that would send Jimmy Graham and a fourth rounder to New Orleans for Max Unger and a first-round choice, according to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports (on Twitter).

that would be a haul for the saints

apparently it's done

this is another really weird trade!

unger was very important to seattle's rushing offense, he's a big piece to give up for a good but overrated player

haloti ngata to detroit!

kinda crazy

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m1 minute ago
Filed to ESPN: Rams close to trading QB Sam Bradford to Philadelphia for Nick Foles and draft-pick compensation, per sources.

it's crazy out there

holy christmas

[xp to cad on unger] plus i know this is a center but the o line is also much more important to seahawks' passing game than a receiver. add the 1st rounder seattle seem to have just made themselves less competitive. they have mortgaged themselves somewhat for effectively a percy harvin do-over.

@bruce_arthur
Chip Kelly standing atop the spire of a stone castle in a lightning storm and laughing, laughing, laughing

apparently seattle was 1 ypa better with unger than without

doubt any of this will top the period between 3:57 p.m. and 4:01 p.m. eastern standard time on feb. 19 but v exciting

brandon browner on the market

rumours that seattle interest in graham is so they have a better pass target on the 1 yard line

detroit apparently traded a 4 and 5 for ngata which is a steal

that's a pretty good trade for seattle imo, they needed a weapon in the passing game and jimmy is basically unstoppable when healthy

neither of those things is true tho

ngata was supposedly getting cut if they couldn't trade him, but 4th and 5th probably worth it just to jump to the head of the queue.

neither of those things is true tho

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

well the seahawks have been trying to obtain a really skilled pass catcher for years now so they clearly think they need someone, and jimmy graham when healthy..... has been basically unstoppable (certainly as far as tight ends go)

a 4 and a 5 is not the end of the world but if the ravens are willing to toss away a 30-something defender i'm not buying

Jody Breeze ‏@Blafell1 5m5 minutes ago
Idk what the #Pats doing. I just work there

i will grant you that the seahawks think they need a receiver and they prob know their business p well but they have just got to consecutive super bowls without one and their offense is built around rushing for 120+ yards and protecting wilson while he runs around until coverage opens up, which has been a pretty good strategy to date. they were worst when they had harvin on the team.

and graham was unstoppable when he was covered by linebackers. defenses figured that one out already. he is still good but not the best use of a 1st round pick for them in particular

Filed to ESPN: Rams close to trading QB Sam Bradford to Philadelphia for Nick Foles and draft-pick compensation, per sources. <<< wtf

i know it hasn't been considered but maybe the seahawks should give the ball to lynch

like on every down

too soon forks. too soon.

nothing official on vereen to NYG yet but they have signed j. casillas

and graham was unstoppable when he was covered by linebackers. defenses figured that one out already.

i..... don't think it's that simple

i think the eagles were smart to get rid of foles, he was bad last year just missing guys flying wide open all the time

chip already has a pretty decent track record of extracting more out of QBs in the nfl than people expected so if bradford stays healthy there probably won't be a huge drop off

that said if i was an eagles fan i'd be shitting my pants over their offseason

good on j. casillas for getting paid

jake locker is retiring apparently

remember the titans? they went to the superbowl once?

that was the go-to movie of virtually every substitute (or simply on-autopilot) teacher in middle & high school

in kelly i trust but i have no idea what he's doing

@bruce_arthur
Chip Kelly standing atop the spire of a stone castle in a lightning storm and laughing, laughing, laughing

― mookieproof, Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:01 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

perfect really

hatcats new world order might actually be a real thing - one solid, low cost FA pick up in stephen paea from chicago

torrey smith 5y, $8m/year in san francisco

$22m guaranteed.

seems like way too much. i think they have a ton of cap space tho.

kubiak picks up owen daniels again, 3 of 3

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes ago
Well, this is interesting: Bills also expressing interest in free-agent CB Darrelle Revis, per sources. Rex does love his CBs...

steelers supposedly have inquired about revis too

vereen getting over $12m for 3y from giants, that is good money and fair play to him, but i am glad another team is paying it

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 21s21 seconds ago
Revis's reps have told teams they have $48M for 3yrs on the table now, with $40M guaranteed. My sense if that is from the Jets...

the jets getting revis back after he won a super bowl with the patriots would be the saddest most perfect jets thing ever

seems like pretty fair money for vereen but it seems like he was mostly a good fit for new england's specific system, idk how he'll look outside of that

bills are breaking the bank for charles clay :-/

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 49s49 seconds ago
Official trade: Eagles gave up a 4th in 2015, a 2nd in 2016, and Foles for Sam Bradford and a 5th in 2015.

chipppppppppp

holy moley

Condition to Foles/Bradford deal ... If Bradford doesn't start 8 games, Eagles get a 4th round pick back. If he's reinjured, they get a 3..

i don't understand

there's literally no eagles upside to this deal it seems?

That seems like a heck of a haul for the Rams, they got some real talent on the defense and if they can use the draft pick with a free agent to fix their offensive line, they could be good. Bradford at this point is a complete and total mystery missing a year and a half to me. I know he was playing pretty decent when he got hurt, but that was 2013, it's been a while. The second round pick in 2016 is the big thing, that's a potential good draft pick for any club. I got to think with that guarantee and the fact they traded two picks, I can't see the Eagles trading for Mariotta.

Not that Revis or Marshall are bad players, but they are expensive. That will be 20+ million dollars in a couple guys. I'd think they could be better served by getting a few 1 short smaller contract free free agents vets.

i guess the upside is that bradford is actually good

Oh the only thing that comes to mind when I come across Bears fans whining about wanting to get rid of Jay Cutler is that somehow I just KNOW that freak will get dealt to Arizona with a coach like Bruce Arians who actually knows what he is doing and smarmy face will throw for like 4500 yards with a bunch of bombs.

All I'm saying is that this guy at one time was considered one of the worst first round QB busts ever. It can happen.

http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/jim_plunkett_1984_01_22.jpg

I wonder how a club really evaluates a player like Bradford for a trade. Do they get a work out with him? I'd think for a player that has missed a season and half, the trading club would want to somehow get to see him throw some place before making deal.

iirc the steelers can't afford revis

Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks!

it's official, revis is a jet once more

hahahahaha

5y $70m $40m guaranteed. believed pats offered mid-30s guaranteed.

it's 39 guaranteed but the first three years value is 48 and he'll probably make that.

If Philly is doing a deal like that for Sam Bradford, they've taken Mariota off their draft board surely.

the instant morphing of the media's opinions up here re: revis - from "pay him" to "omg it's /the way/ and /the system, ew greedy darrelle" has been hysssssteeeerical. ban dan shaughnessy for life

like I've lived here almost a decade and I support half this city's sports teams and should be used to it by now (and usually am) but sometimes it still makes my head spin

really, if anyone in the world has just cause to be greedy, it's nfl players

jason worilds retired (at 27)

Now it's being reported that Gore may not land in Philly, but in Indy instead...

― Johnny Fever, Monday, March 9, 2015

Confirmed

http://blogs.colts.com/2015/03/10/indianapolis-colts-agree-to-terms-with-rb-frank-gore/

apparently worilds also had a spiritual awakening.

eagles going to pick up ryan mathews apparently. that seems like a really good move?

cortland finnegan retires and calls andre johnson a "bish" while doing so

So glad he's leaving.

chiefs, who have major cap issues, paying a fortune for jeremy maclin. the numbers suggest they are swapping bowe out for maclin at the same cost. meanwhile they probably needed the dollar savings from just dumping bowe. i guess if any team needs a wide receiver, but smh all the same.

dunno if it was mentioned upthread but johnson is a free agent and looking at the colts
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/11/andre-johnson-plans-to-take-his-time/

https://twitter.com/drewbrees/status/575707861935767552

loveonlybringsmepain ‏@yankeesjets42 6m6 minutes ago
@drewbrees DEAR GOD DONT TRADE YOUR CHILD TO SEATTLE

If the Saints resumed sucking for another three decades, I wouldn't lose any sleep.

eagles going to pick up ryan mathews apparently. that seems like a really good move?

It's official now.

I don't know about it being a good move. I mean, he's not untalented, but he's never been able to find the end zone, not much of a blocker, not really much of a receiver either, often injured, a lot of fumbles early in his career... maybe he's a late bloomer but I'm not upset about the Chargers moving on.

philly sports radio is batshit crazy today

i'm concerned iggles fans might burn down the city

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 2m 2 minutes ago
Landing Ryan Mathews does not end Philadelphia's pursuit of Dallas free-agent RB DeMarco Murray. Hardly.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There is nothing that Mathews does better than Murray, that's for sure. Sproles at least would be a good complement to him.

i was thinking mathews/sproles is a nice pairing. if they have got him for reasonable money i like the move a lot. meanwhile someone is going to pay murray a ton of cash and he is going to go back to being injured all the time immediately upon signing, so there is that.

also, i don;t have the exact stat to hand but i believe murray rushed one million times last season. one way or another, whoever does pay for him is going to be sad by the end of it.

If they use Mathews/Sproles do you use Polk in goal line sets? Mathews has not performed well at the goal, historically.

i have barely seen polk so can't say, but i feel like chip if anyone can scheme things at the goal line to make up for any deficiencies in straight ahead short yardage running.

kelly press conference sounds it was a treat. a team offered him a 1st round pick for bradford already? has no interest in trading up, bradford is the guy, stl offense staff has been terrible, trust me i got this

i'm talking myself into bradford on the eagles.... certainly if anyone can maximize his skillset, it's chip. he'll be throwing like 30% of his passes behind the line of scrimmage or something.

if it's true that chip is serious about starting bradford (and that this isn't really him holding some mariotta card really close to his chest) i gotta imagine he was attracted to the guy's low interception rate + wonderlic score. idk what to make of the various other statistics that demonstrate he was one of the league's worst performing QBs - are those things that chip can help w/? does he just need a smart, quick thinking guy who doesn't make bad decisions to execute the scheme?

i think the actual answer is more typical nfl--pat shurmur coached bradford and thinks he can make him work.

i do think it's important to remember that bradford has a real pedigree ... we've seen him play in the NFL for a while and obv all that stuff is important but he was a first overall pick, he was prolific in college, he has a high level of natural talent

he played with obviously bad players and was coached by pretty obviously bad coaches and the last time he played he was pretty good....

personally i don't think there's a strong chance that bradford plays all season and is just bad. i think if this comes back to bite chip it's if bradford gets hurt and he has sanchez back there again for like 12 games. but given bradford what bradford is good at chip should be able to make it work.

one thing re the injury element is that for the second straight season the eagles have ranked really high for health + low injury rates which is something i imagine has more to do w/ the staff (and is reliable) than the individual players

i mean assuming 2 years is a trend and chip's physical wellbeing regime works, and not just coincidental

the bigger concern for me is bradford staying healthy and having a marginally good year and then the eagles feeling compelled to give him like a joe flacco contract

fwiw Mark Sanchez and Bradford have pretty similar career passer rating/completion percentage and are roughly the same age

mark sanchez is clearly Not Good whereas there's still reason to believe that there's some good to be extracted from bradford if he's healthy and working with coaches who actually should have their jobs

andre johnson to the colts

nice

$7m/year too much for him at this point? be interesting to see how that breaks down. bolts offered more apparently.

@JasonPhilCole: Sources said #NFL players lost more than $300M in recent yrs w financial advisors registered in #NFLPA prog

that's not super clear, is the claim that nfl sanctioned financial advisors are just crappy or that they are actually bilking players?

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7eB82FsFP4

are you trying to make me cry, jeez dude

How much would it have cost Indy to keep Reggie Wayne? Surely Johnson is a lateral move (and if Wayne wanted more, then I guess Indy did the right thing.)

no way, reggie has nothing left in the tank

I think Andre Johnson is pretty much Reggie Wayne of two or three seasons ago. Wayne really wasn't quite the same this past year and as the season went on, he was less apart of the Colts offense. I got to think if INdy thought Wayne could get it done, they would have kept him around.

I'd figure Johnson and Gore going to Indy is them playing for a ring. They both have been great players, but a couple of nice years with a championship in Indy would finalize them getting a yellow sports coat for their collection.

they are two guys who at their peaks were top players at their positions who have never played alongside a really first rate qb.

until now, i mean. could be a really cool story if it come together.

would that they were doing this someplace other than indianapolis

lol indeed

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/raiders-reach-deals-dt-dan-williams-lb-curtis-170133334--nfl.html

These guys the Raiders got seems pretty reasonable and correct way to go. I'm interested to see how they will draft this year, I think they got a starting QB last year and have a couple of really good other players. AFC West is a pretty competitive division right now and with changes in Denver, the division winner could change next season. I don't think Oaktown?LA will be there yet, but I could believe the silver and black could be more competitive.

demarco murray is an eagle. schef reporting 5y $42m $21m guaranteed. less than shady contract.

also, evan mathis on the trading block

saints pick up brandon browner

cromartie back at jets getting $32m "base" for 4 years??

the jets are so sad

idk i feel like you're fairly wise to lock up the two defenders that brought you to the playoffs (in that brief window, 'member that) you let get away when they arent that much older or terribly banged up and are bound to be productive for at least half of their deals, if you have the money to spend

if thats a general jets statement, well, carry on then

i don't think there's anything wrong with the revis or cromartie signings in terms of money (well i think cromartie will stop being good pretty soon) but just the timelines is.... sad

their idea is to literally recreate 5 years ago when they made the playoffs

i'm sure sanchez is available for trade

also, personally, i always liked that revis' final game as a jet was blowing his knee out against the dolphins

alas

uhhhh wut

Trent Richardson told Mike Wells of ESPN that Colts General Manager Ryan Grigson is to blame for Richardson’s inability to make things work in Indianapolis.

“Me and the GM didn’t see eye to eye. My next step, I’ll be the starter. Indy didn’t fit me,” Richardson said.

hmm ok trent

richardson's inability to run is more to blame perhaps

he was only about 450 carries shy of a 2,000 yard season, what are the Colts thinking

That dude's poor NFL performance has hurt me on a personal level, as he was my favorite Bama running back of the Saban era. Now he's getting shown up by both Ingram and Lacy by a significant margin.

mariota had a bad pro day

richardson sucks but what grigson is doing to try and void his salary is bullshit

omg kyrie

his foot was close tho we'll see

oops wrong thread

colts management and ownership is awful even by nfl standards

yeah the richardson thing is despicable even by NFL standards

McFadden to Cowboys, $5.85M for two years. SOMEBODY BRING BACK FELIX!

most rushing yards next season, mcfadden or murray?

granted i am a world-class mcfadden apologist but i like that move

yeah me too, we'll see what he can do with that o-line

rams get nick fairley on 1 yr escalating deal starting 5m, seems like good business on both sides

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 27s27 seconds ago
So the #Rams defensive line will be, ahem, Fairley good. … I’ll show myself out.

kenny stills to miami for dannell ellerbe and a third rounder

https://twitter.com/GeoffMosherCSN/status/576442097617772545

people i trust say mcfadden is terrible

the raiders are bad etc but latavius murray ran for 5.2 ypc last year it's not like it was physically impossible to generate 4 or more ypc on the raiders

saints have spiller, bills have harvin

theme of free agency so far is eagles, saints and the non-pats afc east teams stirring shit up with an extra large spoon

McFadden has never been the same after the LisFranc injury

the raiders are bad etc but latavius murray ran for 5.2 ypc last year it's not like it was physically impossible to generate 4 or more ypc on the raiders

Murray looked so good... Really interested to see if he backs that up

Don't the cowboys run a zone blocking scheme? McFadden hates that. Strange.

mcfadden's banged the hell up and was prob happy to take senile jerry jones's money, doubt he gives many fucks about the particulars

mcfadden is stiff and old

The cowboys run blocking is so good that maybe they see he's still athletic enough to have big straight line runs.

Randle will be the number one anyway and do well

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/03/13/letter-from-reggie-wayne-to-colts-fans/70284762/

This is a pretty cool goodbye by Reggie Wayne to Colts fans.

yeah, classy

Jerrayh signed up a Razorback. If the Cowboy's o-line stays intact and productive and McFadden can stay healthy, it could be an ok switch off.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/cowboys-reportedly-sign-rb-darren-mcfadden-152604946.html;_ylt=AwrBT8nA2QNVAsIAZZFXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcG01bW4yBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDU01FNzAzXzEEc2VjA3Nj

reggie bush to the niners

Former Broncos and Patriots QB Tim Tebow is working out today for the Philadelphia Eagles, a source confirmed.

http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif

@AdamSchefter
Well, how about this: Former Broncos and Patriots QB Tim Tebow is working out today for the Philadelphia Eagles, a source confirmed.

WHAT IS HAPPENING???

i am 99.9% sure kelly is not going to sign tebow

sheesh for the sake of fans' blood pressure i'd hope so

*hope not

omg i almost posted about this happening last week, but i didn't want do dumbass that hard. did i cause this tryout somehow?

lol @ Schefter not even recognizing his time at the Jets, where he at least got to take a few snaps.

I think you would could use Tebow in the Eagles offense the same way Florida used him in his freshman year. The guy is a heck of a full back out of the QB position.

I think Tebow would be a fine 3rd string QB for someone, he just has the added bonus in that you could use him in some special setups.

Chris Borland is retiring! He's 24 btw

jesus

jfc. remember when the niners had 2 all pros and a DROY candidate at ILB?

I think you would could use Tebow in the Eagles offense the same way Florida used him in his freshman year. The guy is a heck of a full back out of the QB position.

But if you brought him in only in running situations, the opposing defense could key off him. If you bring him in for a whole series, then you are stuck with all his deficiencies for that series. And Kelly likes to score when he has the ball.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CARHE8xUkAAqf9h.jpg

just want to state i am 100% on board with any football player who evaluates the risks and decides the very real health concerns are not worth it. but i would hate to imagine misleading bullshit neil degrasse tyson posts on twitter factors into anyone's major life decisions.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CATzSuVVAAIIx81.png

"It sure looks like Hernandez will spend the rest of his life in jail. And when he sits there, at age 50, he may be better off than if he had stayed in the NFL."

uh, no.

trent richardson to the raiders

v provocative content, mike Rosenberg tyvm

Report: If Philadelphia Eagles can trade Barkley, they’ll likely sign Tebow

smh

is this the first time in the nfl a team has tried to goad another team into giving up a draft pick for the lolz?

Has any other player done tv for two seasons and then gone back and had a productive career on the field? Anybody? As if Tebow didn't already have enough problems.

how is he not on celebrity apprentice

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAZTOc5WEAEmQHJ.jpg

and then he got cut

on the subject of upstanding citizens in the nfl, greg hardy has signed with the cowboys, 1y deal up to $13m with escalators.

lol the Colts just proposed a rule change that teams would have the option of going for 3 after a touchdown in that if they score a successful 2 point conversion, they would then line up for a 50 yard fg attempt for one more point. Because that's what the NFL needs. More breaks in tempo for kicking!

make it a 60 yarder and I'm all ears

amazing. a shitty solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

meanwhile, the pats want cameras all over the field and on goal posts, clearly illuminating belichick's surveillance fetish

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/19/bucs-may-have-concerns-about-mariotas-laid-back-personality/

“The other thing that [the Bucs] are not a big fan of, and you’re going to hear more about this, they are not big fans of his personality,” Cummings said. “And you’ve got one very engaging guy with loads of charisma. He’s likeable when you get around him, in Jameis Winston. And then you’ve got another guy who’s very introverted, very quiet. He doesn’t really command your attention when you’re around him, a very quiet soft-spoken guy.

“The Bucs are looking at it and saying, you know, ‘I got a guy here that kind of grabs you by the throat when he’s in the huddle and says, ‘We’re going guys. We’ve got 82 yards to go. We’ve got a minute and 12 seconds to do it. We’re going to get there.’ And then you’ve got another guy who, I don’t know what he says in the huddle, but it doesn’t come across that way, at least according to scouts it doesn’t.

loooooool never mind all his other qualities if he doesn't shout all the time like a meathead.

The only thing that strikes me about the Hardy thing is that he got so much money. You'd think he'd have to settle for a bigger discount for at least a year.

lol the Colts just proposed a rule change that teams would have the option of going for 3 after a touchdown in that if they score a successful 2 point conversion, they would then line up for a 50 yard fg attempt for one more point. Because that's what the NFL needs. More breaks in tempo for kicking!

Why not a 3 point conversion attempt from the 20 or something?

^^^^^^^^^^ I love this idea as much as I love half-court shots being worth 4 in the NBA

which is to say, a lot

Kevin Clark ‏@KevinClarkWSJ 6m6 minutes ago
Hmm: Bills-Jags game in week 7 will be broadcast nationally only over a digital platform (youtube or someone else). First time in history.

bills jags eh? there's a game no one is going to give a fuck about, let's stream it on the internet.

no blackouts 2015

fuck, now i have to actually watch raiders games?

lol, enjoy

nfl decides it is philosophically against extending video review to shitty penalty decisions

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1237329/eagles1_medium.gif

http://cdn1.bostonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/gronkgif.gif

and so the julian edelman rule was born, becuz, yknow, benching clearly concussed people seems wise
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/03/24/nfl-passes-julian-edelman-rule/ECLaeQDYH9rRzNjefh0dlN/story.html?hootPostID=8d537ac31bf6dc65b2f386aeb8f5e799

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/25/nfl-bans-patriots-ineligible-receiver-ploy/

Boooooooo!

https://sports.vice.com/article/the-undisputed-best-way-to-fix-the-extra-point
i... may agree with this

is "NFL spokesman peter king" a zing?

lol of course it is

that is a fucking terrible idea and i think the guy who came up with it should be immolated and forks too for posting it here, just my 2c

initial impression is that idea sucks, big d-lineman scoops a fumble for a td that would be game-tying with an extra point except oops he weighs 350 lbs and can't kick, basically gets penalized for making a good play.

awesome immolation
i'm for anything that makes the game more hysterically funny

"big d-lineman scoops a fumble for a td that would be game-tying with an extra point except oops he weighs 350 lbs and can't kick"

Lou Groza and Pat Summerall both were lineman that also kicked, so there is.

Here is aline I just read about Groza out of wiki that seems appropriate for this discussion.

"The Browns next faced the Los Angeles Rams in the championship game. Groza came into the game as the NFL's leading kicker, both in terms of points scored and accuracy. He had a success rate of 68.4% in an era when most teams made fewer than half of their attempts.[22]"

It will never become a rule, but I think having someone who scored the goal having to do the kick seems something that fits with the origins of the sport. Some clubs would just always go for two, which is better than a kick anyway.

lou groza is wonderful but it's not 1952

Kickers would be pretty pissed

another positive

how will Martin look poor Garcon Gramatica in the eyes and lie and tell him everything's going to be ok?

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/3/31/7979801/bill-belichick-offseason-simulator

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12600831/cincinnati-bengals-troll-rival-cleveland-browns-logo-prank

lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCLHavHUAAAHrIO.jpg

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/13/lawrence-phillips-accused-of-murdering-his-prison-cellmate/related/

aaron hernandez found guilty of murder

Life sentence, no parole.

I remember some NFLN talking head before last season (probably Heath Evans) saying Bill Belichick has a real keen sense on drafting players with character and I just looked at my tv and yelled "UH AARON HERNANDEZ?!"

Still don't get why it wasn't a bigger story. Like, it should've been ten times bigger than the Jerry Sandusky thing.

dude you are a fucking idiot

https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11027511_912888992091123_3699265155180574711_n.jpg?oh=f94d15f534ecd0b3bed77653bd921381&oe=55DC776F

hahahah

this NFL Network Caught in the Draft show is so cool, wish the NBA did something like it

Still don't get why it wasn't a bigger story. Like, it should've been ten times bigger than the Jerry Sandusky thing.

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 6:46 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude even a coworker of mine who is as ignorant of football as one could possibly be was following this case intently. it was all over the media, not just sports, so dunno what rock yr living under.

Sandusky's story had institutional cover up underneath arguably the greatest coach in college football history and being a state institution, it rolled into politics. It's a much wider scope.

It looks like Tebow is going to get signed by the Eagles.

i saw some jokes on twitter about that and thought they were trolls, and I still can't quite believe they're real

philly ain't got no luck

poor sanchize

eagles are the Con Air of mediocre QBs

https://twitter.com/nathanfenno/status/591378237906817024

What could go wrong?!

hmm p cool but now i want jax to relocate so they have a tower that shoots jaguars

http://grantland.com/features/2015-nfl-draft-quarterback-evaluation-formula-jameis-winston-marcus-mariota-brett-hundley-bryce-petty/

pretty interesting qb prospect overview by chris brown

http://deadspin.com/study-nfl-fans-not-write-good-1700945003
the top 5 make a great deal of sense

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/28/sports/football/nfl-draft-class-1990.html

wow @ Anthony smith charged w/ 4 murders

bern brostek is that dude

1990 nfl seems like ~50 yrs ago

lol - within minutes of each other! things are about to get weird

SportsCenter @SportsCenter
Browns offer two 1st-round picks to Titans for No. 2 overall selection, where they would plan to take Marcus Mariota. (via @PatMcManamon)

Paul Kuharsky @PaulKuharskyNFL
#Titans source: #Browns have not made an offer for No. 2.

http://deadspin.com/study-nfl-fans-not-write-good-1700945003

look at #30 there :D

Why are Lions fans so articulate

desperation breeds inspiration

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-28/nfl-will-end-its-tax-exempt-status-goodell-tells-team-owners

This La'El Collins thing is starting to get fishy

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/29/police-say-they-havent-heard-from-lael-collins/

mariota trade up gossip power rankings currently seem to be

1. Browns
2. Eagles
3. Bears

so obv not going to be any of them. suspiciously little talk about nyjets so probably them. the whole chargers thing seems to have died which is a shame, that was fun. seems clear that tenn are not going to be picking second one way or another.

eagles trade up makes no sense imo but force of city will is trying to singlehandedly make it reality

chip gonna chip (or so people think)

and now, eagles/titans negotiations in full emoji
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD2bZk6WoAElywg.jpg

can't believe every(any)thing you read of course but supposedly cleveland really want bradford and the only thing that might hold up a 3 way trade is tennessee getting greedy

if eagles trade bradford they won't get the conditional 2016 pick from the rams. i guess maybe still worth it if mariotta turns out to be a franchise qb but it's getting awfully expensive.

i mean titans should maximize the return on what they're giving up, i can't blame em.

but at this point i think chip is done, i believe he said he'd received offers to trade up from other teams and for sam bradford and he rejected them way earlier, like right at the beginning of free agency. he's already taking a huge gamble and it'd prob be better to see if anything he has works

then again this is applying reason to decision-makers in professional sports - those based in philadelphia, no less - and that is a fool's errand

could be that hinkie has been whispering in chip's ear

I like Mariota and I don't want to see him be a Brown, but I also want the Browns to waste a pick drafting another QB high (and every year in the future) because they think that's their problem.

I want Bud Dupree to be a Raider but it won't happen

https://twitter.com/PeteCarroll/status/593881257924169729

chip kelly offering every good defensive player they have, two first and a second and maybe something else idk for the number 1

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hopefully tampa takes mariota now

doubt it, they will prob fall for the "NFL ready" caveat that favors famous jameis

I love it goodell is gonna get booed every single time he takes the stage

I wish I could put money on Jameis Winston being a bust.

"Jameis Winston, we know what he did." We sure do.

if the eagles really made a similar offer for the number 2 I don't see how you couldn't take it.

Roger Goodell just mispronounced Mariota's name

mariota has to be disapponted. trade could still happen of course

lol

let yr crazy trade scenarios begin

oh yeah and they have mettenberger, he still has some promise right? I don't understand this goofy sport xp

I have not watched a single titans game in recent memory do they have any decent pieces to give marcus pass protection?

gonna guess no

no, they have nothing at all on offense

Roger Goodell's central job requirement is to go on tv and say things and he mispronounced the name of the Heisman Trophy winner

I guess Leonard Williams is awesome and all, really wanted the Raiders to get White or Dupree tho

Leonard Williams = best player in the draft

williams is dope

ok cool haha

USC gonna miss his presence for real

i hope dante is going to a prom from here in that getup

lollll. killin it tbf

i look good, i play good

that's so raiders

Al Davis would never have picked this guy tho!

too small right

Al would def. have picked White

cooper is good stuff tbh, carr needs somebody to throw to...

v good for derek carr, and i guess for evaluating derek carr

Cooper visited every team in the top 10 other than the Raiders

williams keeps going

lol yea that's multiple mock drafts already way off about williams going top 5

so this guy might have to convert go guard? lol good luck hatcats

Top-five linemen have been nothing but busts last ten or so years.

jets are...letting this clock run...

yeah everyone has been talking about him as a guard, and worth the high pick

joe thomas says wtf snrub

the crazy trade draft not living up to the hype

i guess they needed someone with wilkerson not turning up for work

has to be a trade right

there was some noise about the jets trading wilkerson, maybe now they will

whoever edited together the clip packages did a shitty job

who do the jetmen want for wilkerson anyhow? hypothetically.

either way the jet defense is officially terrifying now

pats and other afc east fans that is yr cue to make quarterback jokes gooooo

is chris mortensen ok?

vic beasley is just a dope name imo

berman making acl jokes within seconds of them announcing gurley's name wow

Any GM that takes a running back in the top ten should be fired on the spot.

ehhh seems just conventional wisdom-y enough to need some breaking once in a while imo. yeesssss I know you can easily get RBs in the later rounds but w/e.

I mean the Rams have a great o-line especially with the fairley acquisition, nick foles has some promise, but like tre mason isn't exactly setting the world on fire why not take a chance

rams have a great D-line especially with the fairley acquisition

and a p crappy o line

typo

o lordy time for some real excitement

Lol Mayock dropped an f-bomb

man, if the Texans got Bud Dupree that could be scary

it's fun to listen to Mayock tip picks by suddenly changing his prediction at the last minute

Texans you better fucking pick Dupree

they....did not

:(

classic texans pick too

whoaaaaaa agholor is going crazy high

yeah some ppl had him falling as far as the pats

I didn't think he'd be in the first round tbh

agholor not really the style of yr lord and savior teh hoodie

Kyle Tucker ‏@KyleTucker_CJ 11m11 minutes ago
Kevin White is GREAT. "I'm not flashy. People might see this watch. I didn't buy this. I'm borrowing this. I buy my earrings from Claire's."

actually drafting at 32 not really bb style but we'll see if anyone else wants it

ah the deliciousness of kool aid

the system

ugh the fucking steelers get him of course

Cowboys should pick that UCLA pass rusher guy

whose name is very difficult

Legal weeeeeeeeeed

Cowboys should pick that UCLA pass rusher guy
--Matt Armstrong

another team letting you down dang

so that is 4 CBs in a draft with supposedly no 1st round DB talent

wtf I know xp

Rich Eisen says Byron Jones "literally jumped out of the gym" at the combine

wonder where hundley goes, prob 2nd round but he's v intriguing, got some bolt to him for sure

so I guess this byron jones guy is athletic

http://3sigmaathlete.com/2015/04/02/inducting-a-new-3-sigma-athlete/

"Alvin Dupree is a very athletic outside linebacker who can fit any role the Steelers need him for. He ran a 4.56 40-yard dash and had a 42-inch vertical jump at 269 pounds."

The NFL just has some crazy athleticism. This is at 6-4 and 269!

this morning's big rumour is the titans wanted more than the rg3 haul for pick 2 and chip was game but eagles ownership nixed it. i believe the first part.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD8fi-vUsAAnwTP.jpg

wes keeping a low profile after last year's derby

gr80 just hanging out

jameis winston hurry with that direct deposit enrollment form son. remember 10% straight into a savings account.

Jaquiski Tartt

"Alvin Dupree is a very athletic outside linebacker who can fit any role the Steelers need him for. He ran a 4.56 40-yard dash and had a 42-inch vertical jump at 269 pounds."

The NFL just has some crazy athleticism. This is at 6-4 and 269!

― earlnash, Friday, May 1, 2015 3:34 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's an explosiveness metric for pass rushing explosiveness and he is number 1 all time. And there is a very very low bust rate for guys in his league athletically.

Funnily enough, "workout warrior" Vernon Gholston wasn't explosive at all really.

don't know who ESPN's Jeff Legwold is but apparently his mock had 84 of the top 100 picks correct, which seems insane.

that's unheard of

Well I would say this about Alvin Dupree, if you are a linebacker going to Pittsburgh has been a darn good place to play for about 40 years. UK doesn't get too many first round picks, although Randall Cobb has had a nice career with the Packers. There are a couple of other starters out there in the NFL from Kentucky.

bengals draft a tight end every year huh

don't know who ESPN's Jeff Legwold is but apparently his mock had 84 of the top 100 picks correct, which seems insane.

What in the world

is there a link to that? i googled but couldn't find anything

https://twitter.com/RickGosselinDMN/status/594612187529805824

this was my source, no link tho

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CENWma4WgAAh_EH.jpg

Lmao those people should have their fb accounts revoked.

well now

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 14m 14 minutes ago
Wells report says it is “more probably than not” that the locker room attendant, equipment assistant & Tom Brady was aware of releasing air

not that it matters much at this point

link to d/l a PDF of full report in this tweet https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/595998031478005760

text message exchange between the equipment dudes is hilarious

"fuck tom...make sure the pump is attached to the needle...fuckin watermelons coming"

lol better in this format:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEV93LYWoAAlY8G.png

bird up

"only thing deflating is his passer rating"....niiiiiice

just a couple guys joking around on the phone, let's move on!

Ed Reed officially retiring as a Raven. If that dude's not a first ballot HOF'er, then I don't even know what the HOF is for.

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/05/lsu_ol_lael_collins_paternity.html

i keep reading how teams are clamoring over his signature and i can't believe that no one thought the risk was worth throwing a 7th rounder at him. now he can choose where he goes and appears to have the leverage to get paid - outside of actually going round 1 i don't think this could've worked out better for him.

During the draft, his agent put out notice that if he wasn't drafted in rounds 1 or 2, he'd sit out a year and wait for 2016. That probably scared most teams off from taking him in a low round.

his agent fucked up. once you declare for the draft if you're not drafted you can't be drafted in future drafts. there's also a pretty low maximum salary they allow for undrafted free-agents. like I think they don't allow a signing bonus or something like that. I could be wrong but my understanding is his agent fucked up badly.

interesting, a max for undrafted players makes sense. not sure exactly how it would work but in theory you might have a 1st pick guy engineering a situation where he goes undrafted to the highest bidder instead of in the draft.

welp, he just got 3 years guaranteed from dallas! can't find details on the salary

he got $1.7 million guaranteed, which i read is equivalent to a high second round pick.

i.e. the bears second round pick got $1.9 million guaranteed last year http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-15/sports/chi-five-draft-picks-contracts-details-20140514_1_picks-bears-nfl-source

the total value of the contract is much less than a second round pick but as we all know total value of nfl contracts is meaningless

if he was gonna be a top 15 pick he def lost himself a few million bucks, but if he had slid in the first round for whatever reason it prob didn't end up being a massive dent for him

and he got to pick his team, and i bet if he's good in one of those first two years jerruh will gladly rip up that contract

def seems like this was a much better route than being a pick in the third round or later

it sort of makes you wonder about second round picks somehow making it so they don't get drafted, essentially turning them into free agents who could pick their team and still secure a salary equivalent to where they would have been picked in the first place

nice to see that the new cowboys front office is still committed to loading up on questionable character dudes. keep doing the same shit dallas, it is bound to lead to different results eventually

it is a day to consider character in the football

yeah i thought i'd read somewhere (deadspin probably)that there was no way for him to recoup that money. that made sense to me cuz the nfl is crazy protective of their draft and anything where a player has in any way fought against the status quo there (elway, eli, clarett) has always freaked them out. crazy they could have a loophole where a player could basically threaten his way into free agency, get his pick of teams, and not suffer too much financially for it.

hopefully this doesn't spurn copycats.

"hey, it's me. what? really, a double murder? Man, you gotta somehow place me near the scene that night. give the cops a reason to interview me. huh? no, of course I didn't do it. Look, stop asking so many questions. Just do what I ask. If you won't implicate me in a murder I didn't commit, then I'll find me an agent who WILL."

I'm kinda bummed the Fins didn't get him, assuming he is innocent. we need guard support.

yeah i'm imagining more ott versions of barkley gaining twenty pounds in 24 hours cuz he didn't want to be drafted by the sixers

God hates Jacksonville. Dante Fowler, the #3 overall pick in last week's draft, out for 2015 with a torn acl.

nice to see that the new cowboys front office is still committed to loading up on questionable character dudes. keep doing the same shit dallas, it is bound to lead to different results eventually

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They went 12-4.

you're right, a 12 win season does make them a well run organization. i take it back.

12 wins. that number that says "we're pretty good, but we aren't cheating"

tbf no organization is well-run until it can answer any question by flexing

cmon dudes it is one thing for the nfl to go after the pats for their success but i just watch them play

i was serious -- if any nfl entity has to answer questions that involve real-life consequences, it has severely fucked up

jerry jones gets to play fantasy football for real and makes a shitload of money while doing it! there are no consequences for being bad at it! ~flex~

dante fowler jr tearing his ACL..........

honestly did not think they'd drop the hammer on Brady like this, the dude was clearly cheating but wow

harsher punishment than what rice originally got

RIP Garo Yepremian

(his ill-advised pass was in the first Super Bowl I watched)

This image is so confusing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFZG5_3UsAETfXa.jpg

the new PAT rule is terrible

eh it's a start.

the move to 15y is basically as close to doing nothing as you can get without actually doing nothing, but it is at least a strict improvement i guess. the thing with defenses returning on 2pts is so bizarre to me, who wants that?

No more fakes though

more difficult fakes! altho i guess if you line up for two you are stuck with it now, i am sure someone has audibled into a pat over the years.

no drop kicking from the two? bring it back imo

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-ray-mcdonald-arrest-report-20150525-story.html

Have to think Ray McDonald is dunzo at this point, no? I hope so at least.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/4/8732793/broncos-fart-tax-von-miller-flatulence-gassers-toots-air-biscuits

Von Miller, ladies and gentlemen.

Anthony Davis of the 49ers has retired from the NFL today.

Here is his statement:

After a few years of thought, I've decided it will be best for me to take a year or so away from the NFL. This will be a time for me to allow my Brain and Body a chance to heal. I know many won't understand my decision, that's ok.
I hope you too have the courage to live your life how you planned it when day dreaming to yourself growing up. Your Life is Your dream and you have the power to control that dream. Im simply doing what's best for my body as well as my mental health at this time in my life.

Sincerely,
Anthony Davis

are they gonna be able to field a team or what

49 is the number of street scrubs on their gameday roster

49ers' Eric Reid has considered retiring because of concussions

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-03/inside-the-branding-camp-where-nfl-rookies-learn-how-not-to-fumble-endorsement-money

lol

https://twitter.com/taddmike/status/609419449750282241

Ugh, will these feminists stop at nothing?!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/for-the-first-time-in-the-series-madden-16-will-ha/1100-6428324/

off topic but whoa
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/01/sports/the-most-dangerous-game.html

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/06/jason-pierre-paul-has-burns-but-his-fingers-remain-intact/

Fireworks, smdh.

@JimmyTraina
Russell Wilson on dating Ciara: "God spoke to me and said I need you to lead her. … He goes, no, I want you and need you to lead her."

gross

god spoke to me and said we're getting thai food tonight

Don't understand why Tebow fans are so disappointed when they've still got this guy, who actually can qb a football team and is every bit as Jesusy.

yeah but he's

Got it.

yeah but he's
--polyphonic

lol yea exactly those type of god-botherers will never embrace russell for that reason

schef with the hospital report: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJbXKxvUAAAL82P.jpg

rip

Damn, CJ Wilson too

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/08/c-j-wilson-lost-middle-and-index-fingers-in-fireworks-accident/

haha wtf

this is one hell of a hipaa violation

lol yep

i mean

You don't fxxx with HIPAA.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--jason-pierre-paul-loses-finger-but-still-expected-to-play--soon-001045451.html

"How Schefter gained the information — even if it was leaked by the Pierre-Paul camp — and reported it is a matter of some debate right now as a possible HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) violation."

You know after going through that type of training, I always wondered if the NFL's injury list was kinda of a HIPAA violation in that it was workplace injury information being shared in the media.

It was retracted but now confirmed

The Snake is Dead. Long live the Snake

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13230192/ken-stabler-former-oakland-raiders-quarterback-dies

i'm 99% sure that whatever schefter did was not a HIPAA violation. it's not his duty to protect that info; that's on whoever leaked it to him

yeah the violation is on whoever leaked the info. journalists can publish hacked/stolen info.

yup

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/farewell-snake-remembering-the-badass-life-of-ken-stabler

Lefty QBs that are good are just cool.

http://imgur.com/a/QDbyt#0

lol

godwin's law cracked me up

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/russell-okung-seahawks-agents-in-sports

also tangential but worth noting insofar as disney/espn's fortunes are inextricably linked to the nfl
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/is-espn-a-giant-bubble-about-to-burst-071215

time + tragedy = everything's okay i guess
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-21/adrian-peterson-s-tantrum-pays-off

i am a professed non-fan of most things done by drew magary, but i have a soft spot for "why your team sucks," which has begun

he's tackled the bucs, titans, jags, raiders and hatcats thus far

the shady mccoy thing was pretty funny huh

@NYTSports
EXCLUSIVE: Hall of Fame won't allow Junior Seau's family to speak at his induction. nyti.ms/1CVjGMv

klassy

jeez

I read League of Denial last month, I'm surprised the Hall of Fame would let any late inductee's family speak.

it's a good time for me to step away from this game, I think.

it's never been defensible, but now more than ever its like "wait why do i follow this game?"

all are welcome to hop on the ILH bandwagon btw our sport is better and the people who play it and follow it are better too

otm

roughly the same amount of contact in both sports these days

the sixers aren't quite as interesting as the eagles yet but maybe in another year or two...

Whhhaaaat xp?

I guess amount maybe but not the extremity.

speaking somewhat facetiously to both the number of injuries prior to playoffs / amount of contact in the playoffs in the NBA and the new protect the qb / receiver rules in the nfl

the day i watch hoops over football is the day monkeys fly out my butt*

*not really just felt like saying it :)

Asking me to care about regular season hoops (or even post-season hoops in most circumstances) is like asking me to eat a peanut butter and doo-doo sandwich.

:(

https://twitter.com/HoustoniaMag/status/624240740386779139

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13328608/jen-welter-hired-arizona-cardinals-assistant-coach

Whaaaaaat http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/07/30/graham-says-tebow-will-make-team/

not sure brandon graham gets to make that call

yikes

http://www.profootballrumors.com/jets-dt-sheldon-richardson-arrested/

143 MPH!

"hey guys, quick question: i'm about to go 143 miles per hour... anybody have a gun? really shouldn't do that if anyone has a gun. oh, we have a gun. aw man. you know what, fuck it."

"also i'm really high"

what kind of car was it?

143 mph jeeeeez

oh and A TWELVE YEAR OLD

yeah that story went from 'hell yeah dude YOU AND I WE'RE GONNA LIVE FOREVER' at the speed then 'o that's dumb' at the gun then 'you are possibly not a good guy' at the revelation of 12 year old in the car

yeah it's like

143mph: WHOA

gun: WAIT WAHT

12 yo: HOLD THE FUCK UP

http://i.imgur.com/omusdmj.png

Thing in the QB corral for the Jets must be rough these days.

http://shop.dallascowboys.com/search/?text=jenny+holzer

this one is tempting me
http://shop.dallascowboys.com/Cowboys-Catalog/Mens/T-Shirts/Short-Sleeve/Dallas-Cowboys-Mel-Bochner-Win%21-T-Shirt/p/402000228

Great...

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/8/7/9115947/aldon-smith-arrest-49ers

time to part ways.

argggghhh

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/9BScV0zp3EMDt9teXfyn7yvYjrs=/158x0:1022x576/709x473/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/46916814/CLw7BWuUwAA02IZ.0.0.jpeg

Amazing!

http://i.imgur.com/SU7Ulnn.jpg

i wonder how they're going to replace bubba ventrone

somewhat doubt that's their major concern but good damage control

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/8/7/9120171/it-cant-get-any-worse

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/sports/football/junior-seau-hall-of-fame-sydney-seau-speech.html
this should have been delivered at canton, the nfl is run by shitheads

Those shitheads are making oceans of money from this business and if public support were to wane, so would their profits. The NFL wants the entire brain injury issue to disappear from the public mind. This was just another instance of denial and suppression in an endless line of such actions by the NFL. I don't expect these attempts at suppressing public awareness will ever end.

RIP Frank Gifford

Shit, this is awful.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/8/9/9124221/eagles-cowboys-banner-planer-crash-pilot-banner-demarco-murray-dallas-philadelphia-compton

Iggles fan did one of those banner flyover hires, except the plane crashed on takeoff and the pilot was killed.

This will probably put an end to that practice (at least for the rest of this year).

@benshpigel
Holy Moly: Geno smith got sucker punched in locker room this morning. Broken jaw. Out 6-10 weeks at least.

maybe this whole fighting thing amongst teammates isn't such a good idea after all

Ikemefuna "I.K." Chinedum Enemkpali (born July 3, 1991) is an American football linebacker formerly of the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). He was drafted by the Jets in the sixth round of the 2014 NFL Draft. He played college football at Louisiana Tech. Know for busting Geno smiths jaw after talking that shit

I assumed it was the jets owner or gm

honestly the most surprising thing about this is that it didn't happen on rex's watch

jeff george is somewhere, sitting by the phone

this happened to the jets you say?

hyperviolent environment is a helluva drug

http://nypost.com/2014/05/20/baseball-player-has-ear-bitten-by-teammate-during-on-field-fight/

@ESPNNFL
"It's a lack of leadership on Geno Smith's part that he would put himself in harms way to get sucker punched"
Cris Carter on @SportsCenter

morbs, i am willing to believe that you are not, in fact, a bot that compiles random phrases from a very narrow range of variables but, as a supposed human being with access to all of the variety and nuance that biological intelligence allows, it can't feel great that you could so easily be mistaken for one.

legarette has had a p good career since his college-level sucker punch, pats should obv sign this dude

clear eyes, full heart, don't break geno's face

the puncher is apparently a massive dude

don't think i want any professional lineman punching me in the jaw

i'll wait, Spiralli, while you get the collective NFL rap sheet stacked up vs any other league