downhill from here >>> nfl 2017/18 weeks 10 thru 17 thread

Jerry Jones Is Said to Hire David Boies to Block Roger Goodell’s Contract

also

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DODWGSoWAAA2CXE.jpg

also

http://www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/minnesota-vikings020seqn.jpg

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000874009/article/sam-bradford-put-on-ir-teddy-bridgewater-activated

yay wb teddy

also

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fimages%2Fmidseason-bracket-gramling_1.jpg

https://deadspin.com/roger-goodell-reportedly-furious-at-being-offered-non-1820289814

lol

the owners are mad at goodell for not making more of a stand against the protests, and jerry in particular is mad about his RB being penalized for domestic violence, so basically the only ethical things roger has done in his tenure, possibly his life.

Hey on the bright side "they" are at least not talking about the fact that the players are literally scrambling their brains to play the game anymore.

jerry jones is one of extraordinarily few ppl who might make me consider siding with roger goodell

sounds like there's all sorts of shit going on between the owners now sparked by this goodell contract shit. happy to have them at each other's throats for sure.

worth watching for that last seahawks series partic the improvised baldwin bomb play but that graham td was nifty too

hey what do you know another top ten NFL talent/personality is (most liekly) out for the season. looks like sherman tore his achilles.

i was at the game tonight and there were SO many injuries, and penalties. theres just no flow to an nfl game. people were yawning by the third quarter. one cool play and the was just meh, lotta runs for two yards.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOTFVOXVoAAa-HC.jpg

i guess marty b went off on the packers on IG

cool, now Ted won't sign a free agent for another ten years

I'm bummed it didn't work out but I doubt he'll be missed, dude probably had more drops than catches

sick 1 hand td catch for washington

omg. bears challenged a run that was called out of bounds at the 1, saying it was a TD. the result of the challenge is that the ball was fumbled into the pylon, touchback and turnover.

hahaha

Lol

blake bortles

here are this afternoon's games available in nyc:

1pm cbs: jets at bucs
1pm fox: saints at bills
4pm fox: giants at 49ers

'ratings are down because players are kneeling'

funny thing is, based on season so far saints at bills looks like an awesome match up, and even that turned into a dismal blowout

lol what a finish. jags are so great rn. such a shame that they bortles

niners are up 10-6 -- their largest lead of the season

it couldn't last

cj was making jimmy sweat until that pick

Well then...#GBvsCHI #DaBears pic.twitter.com/LmjxIDsTmZ

— Chicago Bears (@ChicagoBears) November 12, 2017

Not since the Jim Schwartz era have I seen a challenge backfire so spectacularly

I got a 100k on the @AtlantaFalcons Today #FalconsPride #RiseUp

— Gucci Mane (@gucci1017) November 12, 2017

speaking of atlanta, i was listening to rap caviar on spotify & new migos came on
i was like did i just hear..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNPi7OYXkAIY9Go.jpg

that's hilarious. i would love to see an anthology of bb mentions in rap, probably a bunch of them

twist

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2017/11/01/webgrax_belichicklove.jpeg

sports illustrated ^^^^

nice

keep that pic handy

show bill, is he smiling for once

the number of times this defense gives up big plays 😟

broncos are poor

This is what your mentions look like when you muff a punt and give the ball to Tom Brady. pic.twitter.com/8D1RXdUxBP

— Robert Klemko (@RobertKlemko) November 13, 2017

love to interact with the fans

lol beautiful

see stuff like this reminds me that most of the jerks on twitter are real americans who just happen to be jerks

oh hey marty b!!

justin simmons is bossing the game when NE have the ball.

dwayne allen man, jesus...

lol amazing

is this the worst special teams half ever

feels like it

That was a catch

is this the worst special teams half ever

― lag∞n, Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:22 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are days and then there are days

das a catch man ive seen catches before and thats one

I didn't see it hit the ground

Bullshit call

tough to overturn under the 20 drunks in a bar rule but looked like a catch to me.

broncos stadium has the most annoying stadium sound effects in the league imo

they should write a textbook about that 2-minute drive

damn never seen an official get carted, be well random umpire

hope he's alright

rip travel well lil zebra

keeping the drive alive b/c denver has too many men on the field when NE snaps the punt

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeLzIwkUMAAT9jV.jpg

the broncos are just horribly coached; there's still some roster talent on the team but no one is driving the bus.

it has been a special teams blow out for the ages

yeah, based as much on what he has been saying thru the season as anything else, i think joseph might be a v bad head coach

there's been coaching attrition for them in every phase--wade phillips doesn't give up 40+ in consecutive weeks i don't think.

joseph was never actually qualified and it's showing. this story ends with elway getting run in a year or two.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOfAQd-UIAAOFBk.jpg

OFFICAL ILX JOE BONAMASSA CELEBRATION THREAD

lol

damn they let hoyer throw

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOe5HxMUEAAl0MJ.jpg:large

i think someone was saying he earned his season sack total incentive bonus in one game

wow that's an amazing piece of sports photography

hoping that was a screen

it's a composite of clayborn's 6 sacks

This Streaker In Buffalo Ran For More Yards Than The Bills Did

lol

it's amazing how getting to play with good QBs seems to singlehandedly heal Martellus Bennett's shoulder

u cant underestimate the rejuvenating power of love felt between a quarterback and his tightends

bennett played 7 total snaps and was in for a medical eval during the game, so clearly he is not 100%

he's not but I also think he B.S'd his way out of GB by slandering a team doctor

its really a strange situation all around, I guess I would care more if the dude had done anything but drop footballs

i seriously doubt bennett was trying to get out or angling for a move. i think he has an injury that he can maybe play through and he just didn't want to take on the risk that entails for a very reduced team with prob no real prospects of competing. pack fans are mad about it but it is 100% reasonable imo. and for all this "slandering" business, what is the reason to doubt anything he claimed?

if u knew the integrity levels of the packers team doctor and the deeply felt connection to the fans u wld understand

the fact that a bunch of Packers and ex-Packers (including Jermichael Finley, who probably spent more time with him than anyone) felt the need to make public statements says something to me

it is understandable from Bennett's POV given where he's at in his career, but still. whole thing is strange.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOg97_VUMAAYYwB.jpg

did Rodgers sell his stake or what

Got to say Jay Cutler is again looking pretty decent so far tonight. He's made a couple nice throws under some heat.

Don't get what Gruden was saying that was an under thrown ball, Cutler hit Thomas in the numbers in stride 40 yards down field.

... and then

yeah miami is really bad

Miami's defense got rolled.

why do the bills hate tyrod?

he had a bad game but this is silly

A person with knowledge of the situation tells me Cowboys LT Tyron Smith will not play Sunday (groin). Byron Bell will start instead.

— Jane Slater (@SlaterNFL) November 16, 2017

these steeler uniforms are awful

yep. so glad they found a way to make TNF even worse

and enough with the sky cam

i'm all for using different camera angles, but with restraint

Jerry Jones to Roger Goodell after learning about the Zeke suspension: “If you think Bob Kraft came after you hard, Bob Kraft is a pussy compared to what I'm going to do."

starting to think jerry jones might be a bad person

yea but I still welcome this with open arms

goodell is clearly also a prick and nothing would justify his massively inflated salary, but it easy to overlook how awful it must be to deal with these ppl every fucking day. i guess you'd have to be a prick to even cope.

you welcome jones going after goodell like a rabid dog because his star player was suspended for domestic violence?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO2LWqnUQAAePW1.jpg:small

i would sure like to hear neal mccoy's take

Cutler throws a pick in the end zone after a 69 yard run by his back.

Fuck this team

chiefs offense looks horrendous every time they pop up on redzone. they really seem to have fallen off hard.

Kevin Clark‏Verified account
@bykevinclark
21m21 minutes ago

The greatest trick Jay Cutler ever pulled was convincing the Dolphins that he un-retired.

Cutler throws a pick in the end zone after a 69 yard run by his back.

. . . nice

Xpost lol

browns

The Cleveland Browns have officially been eliminated from playoff contention. pic.twitter.com/C3uxSqwVbo

— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) November 19, 2017

the peterman experiment is going well

maybe they have another qb they could use instead. maybe someone with a winning record this season???

jfc what is happening in that game

LOL

5 interceptions today

Rodger Sherman‏Verified account
@rodger_sherman
2m2 minutes ago

Nobody has thrown 5 INTs & no TDs on 20 or fewer passes since the AFL-NFL merger

nice

im glad the raiders scored i feel bad 4 them

not sure why brady is still playing, he is v old give him a break

this is not the psycho patriots way

Gostowski could probably make a 70 yard field goal here, would kinda like to see Belichick try just for shits

they almost had it perfectly lined up at the end of the 1st half but then brady completed one last pass smh

;_;

sorry veg. at least you're not a buffalo fan

The bigger picture today is Nathan Peterman taking over this team. This is our Tom Brady, changing the franchise moment. Most people don't know that yet. Today the future of the AFCE changes.

— HUGE BILLS FAN (@Dthunder5438) November 19, 2017

......delightful

lol ok *thumbs up*

god can the eagles catch a ball

yes

https://i.imgur.com/zTz3R7q.png

that eagle actually probably technically recovered a fumble

no he caught it i know him were friends

is 5 ints in 14 attempts the worst anyone has ever played the nfl

wentz is a fuckin lunatic man

Christie and Jones... warms the cockles of one's heart

al couldn't sound less enthusiastic every time the eagles do something on defense lol

ROMO??

i'm no iggles fan, but i do enjoy seeing the jerry joneses get blown the fuck out at home on national tv

mike mccoy is the man sacrificed to the broncos heinous season. i'm sure it was 100% his decision to put the franchise on the broad shoulders of trevor siemian. they even went out and got him brock and he still couldn't make it work.

its not like there are tons of quality quarterbacks just kneeling around

"We're free. Jeff Fisher can't hurt us anymore." pic.twitter.com/lZHOXcJqhW

— Skolney (@Rogerskolney) November 20, 2017

looool

it is amazing that his 2 qbs immediately went from being terrible to 15-5

walk up in the club like... pic.twitter.com/i7P5bNMcGP

— Pardon My Take (@PardonMyTake) November 20, 2017

this game is really entertaining

yeah it's like a national game that's actually really entertaining and good football I.... don't know how to feel

"I asked pete carroll what he was thinking when they tried that fake field goal and he just kind of shrugged.. and said, we were trying to score"

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯

Buddy of mine was pointing out that the national game this past weekend was a 4-5 and a 5-4 team when the two 7-2 teams were actually playing each other.

PHILADELPHIA -- The way Eagles wide receiver Alshon Jeffery sees it, his Super Bowl guarantee is still in play.

Following a 3-13 season with the Chicago Bears in 2016, Jeffery raised some eyebrows in January by saying, "I guarantee you we'll win the Super Bowl next year."

The Bears are currently last in the NFC North at 3-7, and Jeffery is in Philadelphia after signing a one-year deal worth as much as $14 million in free agency.

But Jeffery suggested that guarantee traveled with him.

"I never said a team, though," said Jeffery at his locker stall Tuesday, raising an eyebrow and offering a smile. "I never said a team."

He’s got you there...

https://i.imgur.com/1oyf47r.png

Lmaooooooooo

hee hee hee

loool

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/good-news-browns-your-chances-of-making-the-playoffs-are-only-1-in-19-quintillion/

so this is how 538 fills time in non-election years

happy butt fumble day ilnfl

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/21401659/butt-fumble-oral-history-new-york-jets-nfl-king-bloopers-five-year-anniversary

https://nypost.com/2017/11/22/giving-thanks-for-the-historic-jets-blooper-that-keeps-on-giving/

Devin Booker u fucker

that was supposed to go in the NBA thread, sorry

that was a good game. a thanksgiving miracle.

dang

washington football team on primetime always TERRIBLE

horrible games today

Not a single match up on Sunday that is compelling. Really the best game might be a battle of Ohio between the Browns and Bengals, as that MIGHT be the only time the Browns win and those games are kinda usually tight.

Saints and Rams could be good, but obviously since it is a good matchup it is NOT the national game.

saints and rams should be a great game. at least they flexed it to the main late afternoon game. i guess steelers vs packers is too big name to bump it from primetime.

late afternoon is the real big game if youre a honest to god football boy

Bold fake punt by Patriots, seems like a strange call, but I guess it worked.

belichick takes special enjoyment from styling on the dolphins

Def. maxing out the YOLO factor do far.

this fucken game

yolo

i dont understand whats going on w the chiefs. they have three insane playmakers and they cant seem to get them the ball any more.

yeah it's really something

seems like the perfect players to surround smith with? just dump them the ball on some easy slants and let em run.

alex smith trasssssssssh

what is this, maybe 33% capacity?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPllMr4U8AAdwam.jpg

flag at 100% tho

10,000% magnification

fun times in oakland. crabtree trying to kill talib.

love to see a bare fist swing a punch at a helmet

3 players ejected

talib is a radgy asshole but tbf crabtree did just start trying to strangle him on the sideline

oh shit, talib got his chain again. LOL

Lol

nice lol

seriously just logged on to lol at crabtree again

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPmE8TrUEAE347d.jpg

haha that's incredible. talk about advanced metrics.

hoping juju and antonio brown recreate this as a TD celebration just to end the day on a high note

this game showed up somehow. steelers man smh

yeah this is kind of where things turn huh

Leveon v fun to watch

hey right on cue he fumbles......

or not

hard to overstate the importance of this game to GB, with two winnable games coming up and Rodgers potentially coming back right after. this may be the difference between gunning for a playoff spot and letting Rodgers take the year off

AB

pretty cool that the refs didn't call TJ Watt slamming his helmet into Hundley

unreal catch. that slow mo of the helmet to helmet hit was brutal

Raiders’ WR Michael Crabtree taped his chain to himself before Sunday’s game, knowing he was facing the chain-snatching Broncos CB Aqib Talib. And Talib still got it.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) November 27, 2017

Justin Tucker's 53-yard field goal gives him four field goals from beyond 50 yards this season. The Ravens kicker has converted 18 of his last 19 field goals (94.7 percent).
Jamison Hensley, ESPN Staff Writer

this is the lead item on espn dot com

it's absolutely the closest thing to anything interesting about this game

omg

Giants named Geno Smith their new starting QB.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) November 28, 2017

!!!

end times

mcadoo making a play to be the greatest entertainment value head coach of the modern era

fite brewing between the league and the hatcats re: color-rush uniforms on thursday

maybe color rush unis not racist enough

Every NFL team has utilized at least 3 different starting QB since Eli Manning's first NFL start in Week 11 of 2004, and every team in the NFC East has used at least 10. The Browns have utilized 24 starting QB in that time.

— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) November 28, 2017

#browns #utilized

love to utilize

Starting QBs for Week 13 in the NFL:
Geno Smith
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Brett Hundley
Jacoby Brissett
Trevor Siemian
Matt Moore
Josh McCown
Tom Savage
Blaine Gabbert
Mitch Trubisky
DeShone Kizer

Shocking the ratings are down.

— Jimmy Traina (@JimmyTraina) November 28, 2017

Utilize
A noxious puff-word. Since it does nothing that good old use doesn’t do, its extra letters and syllables don’t make a writer seem smarter; rather, using utilize makes you seem either like a pompous twit or like someone so insecure that she’ll use pointlessly big words in an attempt to look sophisticated. The same is true for the noun utilization, for vehicle as used for car, for residence as used for house, for presently, at present, at this time, and at the present time as used for now, and so on. What’s worth remembering about puff-words is something that good writing teachers spend a lot of time drumming into undergrads: “formal writing” does not mean gratuitously fancy writing; it means clean, clear, maximally considerate writing.

bad writers + 280 = chaos

am i making this up or is it ok to use "utilize" when you're talking about using something for a novel or unintended purpose? may apply to some of those qbs.

It's ok, but unnecessary.

My manager is a good guy, but instead of saying "use", or even "utilize", he favors the phrase "utilize or leverage". Not sure why he does, but it always makes me antsy.

i have experienced my share of corpspeak and have to say pulling off "utilize or leverage" is impressive.

see also "cadence"

am i making this up or is it ok to use "utilize" when you're talking about using something for a novel or unintended purpose? may apply to some of those qbs.

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:29 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol nice

lol these teams are so bad

yes and the eagles are good

:D

does dallas play all its games at home or what

tyrod making a case

literally the worst challenge ever

if dion lewis was on another team he'd be getting a lot of press

so I went to that horrendous game at fedex field on Thanksgiving night and there was absolutely nothing memorable about it until... it was Eli's last starting game for the NYG. closed it out with an INT iirc

that's powerful motivation to get grandchildren

I forgot just how good dion lewis was, I guess since he didn't do much last year after the injury? idk.

yeah he was only partway back last year for sure, even offseason

http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/trip-buffalo-gronkowski-remembers-flying-through-tables

"Not at a tailgate," Gronkowski said when asked if he'd ever busted a table. "But I've been through tables before. For sure. Family get-togethers. I've definitely been growing up (going) through tables."

No results found for "si gronk n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer".

btw pats are somehow going to get knocked out in the divisional round by baltimore. bookmark this

bills could really use a marcell dareus type player

lol someone threw a dildo onto the field again! 2nd year of a cherished new tradition in this division rivalry

this is a great pats bills tradition for sure

robert wtf

lol there wasn't a foul on the interception, you have got to be kidding me.

kinda surprised no ejections too.

NFL says Marcus Peters was not ejected from the game officially. He left game after tossing a penalty flag into the crowd. Walked right out

— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) December 3, 2017

chiefs have legit fallen to pieces. chargers are going to win that division

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jesus

gronk did a no

I'm not watching the games this year but I am following the Vikings' season record.

I am expecting an implosion at some point but right now... I might feel hopeful?

it's just that the qb situation is so dubious

yeah I don't know what to think but you can't ignore the Rams then going on the road to beat the Falcons

the defense is absolutely great though so they may not have to score that many points

i think it's maybe time to stop expecting keenum to just turn bad suddenly. he knows he's playing with exactly a 1 game rope with teddy in the wings now, great motivation. thielen is so good. vikes are extremely legit.

i mean, keenum's not just getting by, he's playing well. jeff fisher escape velocity.

wish they could've had cook for the full season tho

sean payton having a 3rd string qb play special teams is next leveling belichick, probably keeps him up at night

yeah it's also entirely possible that Keenum was underrated by draft experts because he doesn't really have the physical attributes of a big time qb and then struggled because Fisher sucks

I'm sure Zimmer is loving that aspect since he hates Fisher so much

Friggin Seahawks

ughhh

wow that pass by wentz

ANOTHER ONE

That non challenge cost them a TD and probably the game

the nfc is definitely the fun conference. eagles/rams and vikes/panthers next week, hoo boy

rams is the hardest single game either has left but i think the vikes sched is slightly tougher overall. v good chance the vikes plus the winner of the eagles/rams game will be the 1 and 2.

gaining 450yds and only scoring 10pts is pretty rough

I expect Vikings will be number 1 in the power rankings?

Seattle has beat the Vikings and Eagles (Vikings was preseason though)

the new england patriots are #1 in the only power rankings that matter, gods

yea but Vikes probably #2 now. their schedule has been kinda brutal but they're killing it. that said they're obviously gonna choke in the playoffs as karmic retribution for breaking Rodgers' collarbone

pats have won 8 straight but probably played 0 playoff teams in that stretch (with atl losing this weekend). the best defensive stretch of belichick career in terms of points allowed too.

the fact that no one can score any points on them including making the ball go through the field goal unit is odd considering theyre clearly not actually that good at defense

i mean, one possible explanation you might consider is that they are actually good at defense?

i think they are good at defense but not that good

afc is pats and steelers plus dark horse ravens (+incredible defense, +collins, -flacco & entire rest of offense). jags as extremely dark horses, barely visible? and then like the titans and a team from the west. p gross.

nfc is vikes, eagles, saints bunched pretty close together and rams probably just a step behind. i don't really believe in the panthers or banged up seahawks. one of packers or falcons could possibly push seattle out but idk about that.

Pats defense, first 4 games: 32 points/game
Pats defense, last 8 games: 12 points/game

god I hate Belichick

several dudes have really elevated their game but the biggest factors are overall just really tightening up from sloppy, preseason-type play and gilmore flipping a switch from total liability to all-pro corner

belichick mustve used his famous magic incantation on him do your job

apparently they simplified their coverage so that he could mostly just stick on one guy the whole time

he was getting confused i guess, lol

nfl is complicated tbf

heh

Ben McAdoo tells me he’s been fired.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 4, 2017

what an odd way to report it

benching eli is against the law

mcadon't

xp apparently. but i will always think on him fondly for fucking up eli's / the manning streak

so, Eli to the Broncos next year?

i find it hard to believe that mcadoo benched eli on his own without consulting his gm/ownership

idk he got fired right after!

i guess well know if eli is starting again next week

would love to think they forced it on him and then fired him for it. somehow extremely plausible!

ha that wld be good too

also...eli to denver? oh man, if eli won a superbowl with denver specifically to break the tie with peyton it would all have been worth it

commas after specifically and peyton

im here for rubbernecking bronco fan excitement over acquiring a new manning boy

the vikings schedule has been so hard saints>lions>falcon>panthers next week

no that's wrong, skins not saints saints were earlier

making fun of ben mcadoo owned. i will miss the big weird guy with awful hair.

he's no Tomsula, but still. all the best ones get canned.

gronk out for one game. feels like the correct call. schef saying gronk will appeal, which would not be the correct call.

gronks roid rage finally boiled over

if his appeal is that he is a very simple minded man and was short circuited by intense confusion at his treatment by officials then i guess i would be on board

obvs none of this is scientific, but giving talib/crabtree two (initially) and gronk one is silly. not to mention the w33d suspensions

NFL suspensions are a joke. I think they just spin a wheel.

league priorities when it comes to player discipline prob couldn't be more fucked up

Gronk deserves to be out longer than a game. That hit was really rough and really unnecessary.

one game is a big suspension imo

for him that's close to 500k

NHL suspensions are messed up because they vary by injury -- slash someone and break a bone, you get suspended; slash someone and give them a bruise, everyone laughs

but gronk actually concussed the dude

yea you'd think that would be worse than the Talib fight, Gronk completely blindsided the dude

oh i didnt know he got a concussion. kick him out for the season them imo.

then*

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UkNMwkPi--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/u0ij2n65odbxrtixtjug.gif

this is just a shitty move

leading with the elbow into the back of his head...damn. i mean white is very very lucky (and gronk is lucky to be very very white tbqf.)

i mean considering everything we know about this type of injury, what the actual fuck at 1 game, i can only imagine it's subconscious "great white hope funtimes 69 guy" BS that allowed that.

Yeah, he did some kind of WWE move, clocking him in the back of the head with his robo-brace. It's one of the worst hits I've seen.

nice footwork tho

it does look very goonish

the leagues awful track record on these issues notwithstanding, i am fine with talib/crabtree getting more games than gronk.

tho i am also open to the idea that they all deserved more

gronk shdve gotten more than one game that was a very bad very late hit, amongst the worst in the modern safety conscious era

talib i guess got one game for each chain he snatched, crabtree got dinged cause people seem to generally dislike him

crabtree kind of strangled talib on the sideline and threw a punch that missed, so he did do something at least. i can understand him getting ejected, hard to untangle those on the spot, but he should never have been suspended. talib 2nd time chain snatching prob had to get a suspension. problem with suspension as a tool in the nfl of course is the difficulty of graduating its use, you only get 1/16th blocks. i don't think talib should've been suspended one eighth his whole season and i don't think gronk should've either.

fuck gronk imo

fuck the bills, too, though bc they suck

sad times when even horseshoe is scorning the twin institutions of western ny state

gronk was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me

hi Roberto Spiralli!

HI :D

I still love the Bills, you understand; I just hate them

even tho the qb merry-go-round has been a shambles, i think they might at least have a good coach finally. and if white is still alive he looks really good.

what happened to shazier? scared to check the footage. taken to hospital w back injury.

Steve young says he clearly couldn't move his lower body.

oh no

yeah it looked bad, play was stopped for quite a while

#22 on that LeVeon Bell run, wtf was that

what a shitshow

man alive another massive helmet shot on brown there.

never a doubt that the Steelers would come back to win this

anyway that was the kind of game that makes you want to quit watching football altogether

sources indicate that eli is getting his job back

anyway that was the kind of game that makes you want to quit watching football altogether

I only caught the postgame show but Steve Young looked like he was going to throw up.

JOHN GRUDEN called the game "disgusting".

if this had happened 10 years ago, the league would be selling fatheads of smith-schuster's hit

I posted this in the death spiral thread but it's kind of hypocritical for Gruden to say that given that he was complaining about penalty flags all game and revealed his man-crush for Burfict "despite all the fines"

yeah they were in fact straight up blaming the players while simultaneously propagating the culture that makes the players think this shit is desirable

Suzy Kolber was especially trashy in that segment. Charles Woodson and Young and Gruden all seemed pretty messed up and were clearly trying to figure out what to say, but Kolber kept steering it back to how hardcore and badass it was. It was hard to take.

they all were feeling the tension of having to actually call the game and act like it's exciting/cool while acknowledging what had happened (except mcdonough, he dngaf and would have murdered the nfl all night i think)

Startin to wonder what gets you ejected anymore. Even the Arena League used to toss people for far less

if this had happened 10 years ago, the league would be selling fatheads of smith-schuster's hit

― mookieproof, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 3:18 PM (five hours ago)

had this same thought

Don't worry, I'm sure the next Ravens and Steelers game will take it to a new low. That division is all about the he-man tough guy thing.

that game was a good reminder that football isnt going to be around in 20 years. not in it's current form anyway.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/davante-adams-green-bay-five-toughest-nfl/

really interesting piece from davante adams on wr/cb contests

Mike Mitchell absolutely killing it. Must watch. @TheAthleticPIT pic.twitter.com/SwcvJMJyHy

— Mark Kaboly (@MarkKaboly) December 6, 2017

that Davonte Adams article is great. never knew about that "super jam" thing, that's pretty interesting

http://settingedge.com/week-13-qb-spotlight-the-start-of-the-jimmy-g-era

detailed look at jimmy g's first start for the niners. overall verdict: "very good debut"

im pumped for jimmy g

yikes
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21694844/warren-moon-sued-sexual-harassment-sports-marketing-firm-assistant

shazier had 'spinal stabilization' surgery, whatever that is

I almost never talk about my work at Thr Players’ Tribune on twitter, because twitter is bad, but I’m breaking that rule to tell a quick story about Ryan Shazier ...

— Sean Conboy (@seancon) December 7, 2017

Jimmy Haslam is a fucking idiot.

a lot of these color rush unis just look like pjs

wtf why not accept that penalty??

that was a good game. a lil thursday night sloppy but v entertaining. and the result makes that division even more interesting now,.

i'd probably be pissed too if the other team got 9 first downs via penalties and my team got zero

bills colts game is AWESOME

pats woulda come in and scored 40

This ... is ... nuts. #Bills-#Colts pic.twitter.com/BDXvRohgiv

— Vic Carucci (@viccarucci) December 10, 2017

Packers Browns game is dire

Man Hundley is a disaster

Yeah he’s real bad but the Packers problems go well beyond that

Defense....

vinatieri ! wow @ that kick

are there more cowboy fans at the giants game than hometown fans? it sure sounds like it

Holy shit that Davis punt return

browns

Ahaha hahahahah I cannot wait for Posnanaki to break this one down

It really is raining shit on Cleveland

What does Hue Jackson have to do to get fired???

Jimmy Haslam is a fucking idiot.

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, December 7, 2017 3:03 PM (three days ago)

so you want the coach fired but *not* the gm?

My kids will never play football and neither should yours pic.twitter.com/VZDLKVtVDB

— Myles (@MylesInSF) December 10, 2017

and they let savage back in the game

The GM just gave us eight picks in the first four rounds of next year’s draft! #TrustTheProcess

this is like the national coming out party for the jags' defense, which might be top 10 all-time. kind of wish they hadn't scored the TD so they could win 3-0.

see, that TD really fucked them up

The NFL concussion protocol would of cleared JFK to reenter the parade

— PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) December 10, 2017

Eagles are concerned QB Carson Wentz tore his left ACL, per source.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) December 11, 2017

fuck

just saw that too :(

is this what they mean by pyrrhic victory

maybe we can get some of that ole foles magic back

Man f this. What a stain of a season

had 4 really good games in the nfc this week. maybe the afc can throw us a bone tonight.

Cleveland's a bad team but they're not *this* bad, they're not like the 0-16 Lions where there's a dearth of talent at every position. They've got some good pieces, their defense seems above average, they've hung in a lot of the games they've lost. They just have this propensity for doing the worst possible thing in clutch moments; Kizer just randomly chucking the ball up for grabs in OT is kind of a microcosm of their entire season.

if it was revealed collinsworth had not watched a single minute of baltimore playing this season i would not be a tiny bit surprised. embarrassing shit from him tonight for 14 weeks into the gd season.

lol flacco should've been picked and instead gets to the 1 with a bs pi call. this is championship form from the ravens.

this game

refs murdering this now

flacco is very bad

respect the champ

antonio mf brown

what the heck are either of these teams doing

i can't tell you how much i would like to the see the steelers give up 41 points to this offense when they could've bled the clock to almost nothing and won the game

Good to see Seattle is this week's keeping it classy in the face of defeat team.

NFL's concussion protocol looked pretty bad too with the whole Savage situation.

wentz acl tear confirmed. eagles think it was a non-contact injury, that it went on the step before he was hit.

:'(

WHYHYYHYYYYYYY

i really think philly will still be competitive. there have been several reasons they have been so good this year and wentz has only been one, and imo not even the most important. a lot of the reasons he has been successful can carry over to a lesser qb. when foles looked good for a minute, back when, it was because of scheme opening up throws for him just as has been happening this season for wentz. i am sure foles can run all these rpos. they will still score points and they still have maybe the best defense in the league. more than this being the disaster ppl seem to be painting it as, losing any edge against a tough and deep nfc field will be what hurts them, not that they suddenly turn terrible.

foles looked pretty good yesterday despite having a kicker's name

kayvon webster's achilles was also non-contact iirc

beating NO, Seattle, Minn, returned Rodgers GB was going to be hard enough WITH wentz.

i'm sorry i'm just so sad i don't really want to think about football any more today or maybe even again :/ :( :'(

appreciate your confidence but GB's got a long way to go, they've got to not only get Rodgers back right now but also beat 2 playoff teams + the Lions, plus get some help elsewhere in the bracket because 10-6 may not do it in the NFC this year

either way this definitely sucks, I'm not really a fan of Philly but they're damn fun to watch, one of the few bright spots on a terrible season. reminds me a bit of the Derek Carr injury a couple years back, though this is worse obviously. good news is that Foles is alright; he was a starter, he knows the offense, and idk Wentz doesn't seem completely irreplaceable...this team is great all around, this ain't exactly an Aaron Rodgers type situation

if the defense steps up it could still be something special but look it's hard to overstate what losing wentz means. he was the heart of the team, probable MVP, just playing out of his mind this season. it's extremely painful as a philly fan today :/

wentz has been absurdly good on third down and in the red zone and i feel like going from that to even league average production (if foles can provide that) will be a huge step down

you may be overestimating wentz's contribution to that production

this has not been the kind of situation with an elite qb dragging a bunch of chumps up and down the field. they have installed a really nice, innovative, complementary offense with a bunch of strong parts

sure, but wentz' personal numbers in those situations have been great. that's not just going to continue

the eagles are a very good all-around team tho and should continue to be competitive, but their SB chances obv took a huge hit

a hit, sure. but they didn't lose an mvp calibre qb, they never really had one. eagles fans should be able to spot the difference.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000292562/article/russell-wilson-nick-foles-peyton-manning-lead-mvp-race

i disagree. wentz has played like an mvp calibre qb.

Miami toying w/ me tonight but the offense is still middling as always.

all the "it's been allll Miami" cries from broadcasters and it's like...6-0.

cutler > brady

for a while there it looked like that 6 pts might've been enough

quite possibly the worst P.I. call in the history of mankind

in real time I was on board w/ it but dude grabbed Howard's facemask

damn Cutler!

damn that was a hell of a pick

was about to say something abt pats being terrible but i watched both washington games the last two weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-2RGFNyaGU

K Drake is fun

oh my god are the Dolphins in primetime again

btw callin it now Miami is not gonna win this game

ok my opinion has...evolved

!!!!!! Aaron Godgers cleared to play next week !!!!!!!

Being entrusted with the Bengals job is like becoming the night watchman at a low-budget museum. As long as you don't screw up horrifically, you'll be able to keep the job for about as long as you want. Heck, even if you do an awful job, you're probably going to get some time. Marvin Lewis has had the job for 14 years without a playoff victory, of course, but think about the guys before him. Bruce Coslet made it into a fifth year with a 21-39 record. He replaced David Shula, who made it nearly five years himself with a 19-52 mark. Cincinnati moves at a glacial pace.

Fuck you, Melvin Gordon!!! I hate fantasy football so much.

so happy about the return of aaron rodgers you guys

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/335/678/e87.gif

nice catch

ab was sent to the hospital??? oh no

lol @ brady about to run

"yeah, he thought about it, then he remembered he was 40"

brady is an alltime great that was p sick

Looks like Marvin Lewis is going to leave this year, maybe to move into a front office job with Cincy. His career record is pretty mediocre but over .500 and the playoff record is hard to leave be, but the guy did find a ton of talented players over the years. AFC Central has also been one of the most competitive divisions in football over that same time. Pats and Colts didn't have to deal with playing the Steelers and Ravens 4 games a year along with getting over them every year to make the playoffs.

Everybody was clowning on Lovie Smith a few years ago for similar middling success, but you got to look at the last few years of the Bears and wonder that he might have had more going right than appeared.

It is hard to remember now how bad the Bengals were for such a long time before Lewis took over and at least got things somewhat balanced back out.

BRADY.

this patriots team is so frustrating to watch

AAAAAAAHHHHHH

and it's INTERCEPTED AT THE GOAL LINE by... eric rowe?

That overturned call is complete BS. He crossed the line with possession of the ball. F that.

oh, duron harmon! the one who has how many closing INTs now

nah that wasn't a catch imo. seriously. he bobbled it

that game!

god my neighbors must hate me yelling at the tv here but holy shit

That overturned call is complete BS. He crossed the line with possession of the ball. F that.

― Spottie, Sunday, December 17, 2017 7:20 PM (forty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still gotta catch it

i did not think this pats team could win a game like this tbh

That overturned call is complete BS.

nooooo easy call even

gronk gronked the f out

lol at roffles throwing it into the middle of every patriots player

megagronk

GRONK

should've spiked it and taken the 3. they weren't ready

agreed that play was super chaotic

fp-ing all of lag∞n's posts in this thread

JIMMMMMMYYYY G

ball on the ground man this is how the game is called u make a catch as youre going down u gotta still be holding that ball when youre down, they call incomplete when a guy loses later in the play than this all the time

If this isn't a catch I have no idea what is... #NFL #NEvsPIT #HereWeGo
pic.twitter.com/4IftBtI6TG

— Sports Burd 🦅 (@Sports_Burd) December 18, 2017

May be the rule but it’s still the lamest rule

lame but pretty clear in this case? you have to complete the catch

yeah if u dont call it that way then youve just put a whole bunch more of plays into the "what is a football move" category which is the worst most undefinable call, that wldnt have qualified as a football move either tho

it was def "a bang bang play tho"

i see jimmy g got the win! <3

may have to get on the niners bandwagon esp since i expect washington to be a 7-9 team for approx the next 30 years

Eh my argument is he crossed the line with clear possession but hey what is possession anyway who cares the niners have jimmy g and aren’t gonna lose again while Brady’s arms gonna turn into a noodle within the next 18 months.

tom brady is an immortal demon actually

crossing the goal line seems beside the point tho like you cldve made that attempt entirely in the end zone and its still not a catch

anyway i think we can all agree that the call was good because it allowed the patriots to steal the game on the int making it one of the alltime looniest last few minutes ever in an nfl game + the fact that it was a good game in its entirety, also it was good because it allowed the patriots to achieve the tie breaker with pitt instead of being two games behind them

Steelers just can't beat the Pats. I think that is now 3-11 in the Belichick era.

maybe for the best, the only coach iirc with any measure of success against the Pats was Mike Shanahan and Belichick took revenge by murdering his son in the super bowl last year.

btw this catch

Gronkowski with hands safer than a Swiss bank!
#GoPats #NEvsPIT #HereWeGo #SNF pic.twitter.com/SFmDdibGj8

— NedsAU (@NedsAus) December 18, 2017

league should just replay pats-steelers again instead of this sunday night game

Clay Matthews: It's that wheel route, it's that wheel route

Cam Newton: You been watching film, huh?

Matthews: Yeah

Cam: That's cool. Watch this

Cam: Slant to McCaffrey TD

I can't stop watching this.pic.twitter.com/PZcfiayC7T

— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) December 18, 2017

okay so this was pretty cool

that game was insane btw

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WatchfulTightDobermanpinscher-max-14mb.gif

that's awesome xxp

lol how did gronk not get a flag for that

Lmao if that ref measuring the first down with a folded over stack of papers doesn’t prove that the nfl needs new tech for measuring first downs I don’t know what will

the folded card...wtf

Carr has gotten away with some real shaky passes here

Omg of this is that dumbass toucback rule

lol how did gronk not get a flag for that

― Spottie, Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:55 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gronk realized he was taunting and tried to play it off like it was part of a dance, effective apparently lol

omfg raiders how do you do that

lol damn fuck the cowboys

And THAT’S how the Raiders go out huh

That rule needs to be adjusted

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRTbBC-VwAASMdP.jpg

The NFL’s two most controversial rules holding each other’s beers today.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) December 18, 2017

between Steelers, Raiders, and Packers, some pretty brutal and sudden losses yesterday

lol please let Diddy, Curry and Kaep buy the Panthers.

im willing to switch my rooting allegiance (prob not emotionally possible)

theres no way the owners will let kaep within 100 yards of a team tho

first order of business: change name to the Carolina Black Panthers

vibranium helmets finally solve the concussion problems

the funniest thing abt diddys pitch is his implication that hes gonna bench cam, tho tbf im not sure if he thought that part through or even follows the nfl at all

This picture was taken back in 2003. This is God’s work. It’s time!!

ATTN all @NFL owners, it’s time for diversity!! It’s time for Black ownership!!

The time is now. Let’s make it happen!! pic.twitter.com/zex7LTZ8mn

— Diddy (@Diddy) December 18, 2017

idk if he's serious and/or has enough money but... i'm not so sure buying an nfl team is a smart use of funds atm

ha true

sometimes football rules

WARNING: GRAPHIC sideline collison if this happen on the streets it would be felony pic.twitter.com/uP9zftq03l

— PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) December 19, 2017

this guy is one of the weirdest stories out there, 99% chance hes a PED supplier http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/19/tom-bradys-trainers-reduced-role-with-team-causing-some-friction

yeah that story is blowing up locally, basically sounds like the patriots long ago made the decision that tom could do whatever he wanted but recently guerrero's been disrupting some other players training and bill got pissed.

there's going to be an amazing expose about this guy written ~5 years after brady retires.

It sounded like some weirdo scifi cult thing in that ESPN Magazine article I read a couple of weeks ago.

Has a juice candidate ever been more obviously so

not since baseballs mcguire-bonds-sosa heyday

Yah meant to say modern

can't believe we're discussing juicing (they all are, especially gronk) when we could be talking about the pro bowl

gronk gotta get that juice bro!

Highest career passer rating, minimum 200 passes, NFL history:
106.5 Jimmy Garoppolo
103.8 Aaron Rodgers
103.0 Deshaun Watson

— Michael David Smith (@MichaelDavSmith) December 18, 2017

Stats

Missed one game this year and was this one of course. Maybe for the best with my heart condition. Watched British nfl highlights show, which was even more horrific than I expected, and got a proper look at the controversial call which...well, I'm sure it was very exciting at the time, but I didn't expect it to be quite so obviously not a catch. Anyway, that played out like the recent Pats super bowl wins, so might be done for the year now. Divisional round loss to bmore prediction continuing to look strong.

Warrick Dunn is making the down payment and furnishing a home for a single mother today in Atlanta. He's done that 159 times now. Cool guy.

nice

that's awesome

BREAKING: Papa John's founder John Schnatter to step down as CEO; announcement comes weeks after he criticized NFL over protests.

— AP Business News (@APBusiness) December 21, 2017

ripapa

i always loved how he pronounced it puppa juns in the commercials

hopefully he will still have the means to maintain one of the worst dye jobs going

im getting word that frank gore is not only still in the league but has become only the 2nd player ever to have 12 straight 1000 yard seasons and is 5th on the alltime rushing list

I'm kinda wondering if you might see some more NFL owners try to cash out at the end of the season and sell the club. Trying to get out before the fall.

Gore gonna go down as one of the most underrated players ever. Pretty crazy that he’s had the consistency and durability he has as someone who blew out both knees before he played in the NFL.

Also kind of proof that it takes luck to be a star. He was on a lot of crappy teams in SF and then signs with Indy thinking that is going to be a chance to get in the playoffs and be on good clubs and they turned into crud.

Those laters niner teams he was on were good!

Gore was on 3 good teams in 11. How many TV commercials would have had if he played for the Packers or Steelers in the same time?

Running back is weird in that way when discussing the greats, as you got some players that got hurt young Bo Jackson, Gayle Sayers, Billy Sims etc. and then you got people like Herschel Walker and Ricky Williams who by what you know really were a couple of the best of all time but their careers turned out really weird.

indy is playing good/hard imo

Gore kinda has a pretty dud personality too tho. Not much flare there to market

Emmitt Smith was great, but the dude had the luck of both being on the best exact place to put up tons and tons of yards and being durable enough to play forever. Smith was a masher and great running back to just pound the rock, but I can probably name on a hand at least a handful of guys I saw play that were more dangerous because of their speed and moves etc.