ILNFL Fantasy 2007/08

i'm in!

shy hand raise, someone remind me later.

I am in. Only 4 months to go!

I'm in.

I dunno, man. It's a lot of responsibility.

YAYZ! Signups have been opened!!!

League ID#: 20506
League Name: ILNFL 2007/08
Password: hobobill
Custom League URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/ilnfl
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 3:00pm EDT [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: November 17, 2007
Trade Review: Commissioner
Waiver Time: 2 days
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Playoffs: Week 16 and 17 (4 teams)
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (7)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (7)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (7)
Return Touchdowns (7)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (7)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Fractional Points: No
Negative Points: Yes

AWESOME!!!

thanks johnny caravella!

Nice to see, but can't we draft actual defensive players? That was missing last year and I'd like to have it back (no pun intended).

Sure I can change that up.

I added 1 DB and 1 DL position. I've never played with individual defensive players before, so this should be fun. I just kept all of the settings the same as last year originally, except I changed some of the points and the playoff system. (All td's are now 7 instead of 6, playoffs are 3 weeks, but include 6 teams...)

cool, i'll log in at home where it isn't blocked and check it out. thanks for doing this.

Why are TDs 7? Making it really TD-based is sort of sucky I feel, 'cos they're basically luck - I'd rather see them at 3 or 4?

Also that would give people a chance outside whatever ends up being the RB big three, if the LDT weren't posting 18 points more than your replacement-level Warrick Dunns every week or whatever?

td's should be six.

Okay, I'll change them back.

UPDATED scoring:

Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: November 17, 2007
Trade Review: Commissioner
Waiver Time: 2 days
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Playoffs: Week 15, 16 and 17 (6 teams)
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, DB, DL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (50 yards per point; 4 points at 250 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point; 4 points at 150 yards)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point; 4 points at 150 yards)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (20 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (1)
Sack (3)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (1)
Fractional Points: No
Negative Points: Yes

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wtf?

Kev, try going to the fantasy homepage, signing up (if you haven't already) and then join the league ILNFL 2007.

*bump*

i dont think i'm gonna roll wit fantasy football this season, i kinda hated it last year. fantasy beisbol is a lot cooler, even though the sport itself is vastly inferior to futbol.

I am signed up! I am psyched since i didnt get to do ilnfl fantasy football last year.

hm. I need to decide to do or not do this year.

Do it, Tofu! We need you.

Okay, I'm in, the Essential Avengers.

i sucked at this last year :\

FF kinda saps away all the joy from the game :[

Aww, I sucked last year too, but that's why I want to try again.

i won last year so i have nothing left to prove~ goin out on top baby~~

I came in second place, and now without ade playing, I've got nothing to play for.

It's wide open this year!

do you guys do the live draft thing?

Yeah, scheduled for 8/19.

I think I need a better team name.

i want to join but i may not be hardcore enough

No hardcoreness required. You can even let it autodraft for you if you don't wanna sit through a live draft. It would be nice if you hung around the whole season, though, in case someone wants to make a trade with you or something.

I think I need a better team name.

I'm blaming society for "Kissing Kosar"

I'm just keeping the same one I had last year (Birdfingers, which isn't clever or even football-related) until I think of something better.

Are there more spots?

I signed up! last yer I had Edgerrin James and Daunte Culpepper in my other league aka I am terrible.

8 of 16 spots are filled x-post

(if we don't get 16, we at least have to have an even number)

oh, i want in.

Ah, what the hell...

ah, i need to do this still.

i'd like to be in this, please.

Okay, that makes 12 as soon as you all sign up (the signup info is at the top of the thread).

Okay I joined dammit

yup. yo tambien.

Whoever said Fantasy Football is like crack drastically understated the powers of Fantasy.
-- Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, November 5, 2005 2:01 PM (1 year ago)

And with that... I'm in.

And that's twelve. I'm gonna get whupped this year, aren't i?
Thank god my girl is patient with my football addiction. I think we're gonna haveta get tivo this year.
Anybody on here wanna sing the virtues of tivo for the sportswatcher?

Four more league spots available. Anything more than 16 teams would pretty much exhaust the draft/post-draft player pool, right?

Agreed. A twelve man league means everybody gets a ton of talent (at least one solid qb/rb and two good receivers per team) and it becomes a serious punch em up. Either way can be fun.

okay i signed up :[

Should we cut it off, at 12, so everyone kicks ass this year? It might not be such a bad thing (except I'm not sure everyone who's said they wanted in is actually in yet).

chicago kevin, where'd you go?!

i have a few demands requests tho!!!!!!!

-points per reception please
-one or two more bench spots
-replace "fumbles lost" (fumble recovery is non-predictive) with simply fumbles (something that the player actually has control over)

i like bigger leagues cuz u gotta plumb the depths to fill out ur roster but i am cool with it either way. also more ppl means fewer ILXors excluded! those whimpering buttbabies on ILB always fill up their league w/o me ;_;

-replace "fumbles lost" (fumble recovery is non-predictive) with simply fumbles (something that the player actually has control over)

But why should a player (QB) lose 2 points if the fumble is recovered? People fumble, it happens, but it only really makes a difference if it's a turnover.

-points per reception please

RBs don't get extra points per handoff, so WRs shouldn't get points per catch.

-one or two more bench spots

Under consideration, but I'd really like to have the live draft not go on through the following day.

Okay, there are now 9 bench spots. You can either fill them all or leave a couple blank. It's up to the individual player.

we don't need nine, i was just concerned that there were more roster spots than bench spots? bcz everyone would have to go w/o a backup for at least one position. it's not a huge deal tho

RBs don't get extra points per handoff, so WRs shouldn't get points per catch.

lolllllllll what. i just-- what.

catching balls is a wideout's job. i mean, that is like the #1 thing you want a WR to be able to do: catch hell of balls. the handoff is more analogous to, like, whether or not the WR gets a clean release at the line, except you can't keep track of that. also it increases the value of backs that are more active as receivers.

But why should a player (QB) lose 2 points if the fumble is recovered? People fumble, it happens, but it only really makes a difference if it's a turnover.

dang, we are like bizarro fantasy football players cuz u r a mystery 2 me. QBs fumble more than anyone bcz of their vulnerability so maybe they shouldnt be punished for that, but various players have been/are known for their issues protecting the ball - but no player is known for their elite fumble-recovering skills, because it's impossible to predict which way it's gonna bounce. i just h8 stats that have nothing to do with the player's production or stuff that's completely random~

oh man i feel like such a giant dbag rn

impeach reggie bush is in!

Wideouts get points based on yardage already, though, and to get that yardage they have to catch passes that are thrown to them. I don't see why they need an extra point per reception or whatever. Plus, a stat like that is nearly useless for players on teams where the QB spreads the ball around, and would totally favor spotlight players who get the majority of the passes.

And if we're going to really analyze the fumble this way, maybe it should be a null scoring category. You fumble, you don't gain or lose any points at all. Fumbling is an inevitability, right?

Yay stence!

That makes 13...three open spots left.

yeah i was gonna say, let's just do away with fumbles altogether. they are too ~*controversial*~

uhhh, the current system already favors 'spotlight' players!!! guys aren't getting 1k+ receiving yards and ten touchdowns if they're the QB's third option. and the running back by committee is as popular as ever right now, making true feature backs more rare (and thus wayyy more valuable). if anything the reason i like PPR is *because* it gives more value to marginal players like slot receivers and third-string running backs. even guys like jason witten, a talented pro-bowl TE who caught a lot of balls last year but didnt score much, are suddenly more valuable. if your team has crappy RB depth and you need someone for the W/R spot, the guy you end up with will probably be worth 1-2 points a week and maybe have 3-400 all-purpose yards at the end of the season. add a few receptions in tho and suddenly they are kind of useful.

do away with fumbles altogether? but they are such a great part of the game!

ok people Resulting Paste is here

btw, Banjo is the name of my pit bull.
He enjoys eating delicious Michael Vick burgers.
Given the chance, I'm gonna draft him in the aftermath and let him ride the pine all year.

We stand at 14, which is what we had last year. Two spots remain.

Also!! There's been a request to push the live draft date by someone who'll be travelling 8/19. Is Saturday 8/25 alright with everyone?

i'm cool wit whatever~

NEW DRAFT DATE/TIME

Sat Aug 25 4:45pm EDT

well I dont think I'll be able to do that but I'll pre-rank like a mutha

yeah, that's no good for me. schiesse.

Oop, that's two vs. one. I'll see if I can switch it back.

IGNORE THE NEW DRAFT DATE/TIME POST POSTED THREE POSTS AGO

Sun Aug 19 3:00pm EDT was still available.

Points-per-reception, aka The Keyshawn Rule, is an interesting one to me. I agree that possession receivers and backfield threats are underrated in traditional fantasy scoring (unless they are Brian Westbrook, who is both a backfield threat AND a possession receiver)... I'd be willing to try this out (pretty much a guarantee that it will bite me in the ass).

Fumbles, I sez no change of possession, no harm, no foul, no -2. This will also come back to bite me on the ass.

If the league comes up 1 short, pencil me in if you lot are ok with me letting Yahoo pick a team. And if two other people want in, I'm happy to defer to them.

hmm I don't think Schef is in yet?

alright alright i'm in

you won't regret it

well not in the cosmic sense or anything

if we aren't there for the live draft it'll just do that thing where it picks for you based on your rankings and embarasses you in front of everyone again, right?

Yeah, le draft de automatique.

As long as you pack your pre-draft ranking with everyone you want, you'll probably do fine.

room for one more? i can promise to keep up with it and bitch about eli manning overthrowing dudes on the regular...

ok, im Ocho cinco de mayo.

any objections? tell it to rodg godell.

Sweet! That's our 16.

WHO IS JOHNNY CRUNCH

http://s3.amazonaws.com/0SAJ7JN5VFAWT249NNR2.anigifdel/3ca89b8439c003d250e01901fa6e7f9d

If we're gonna do 16 players, 9 bench slots seems kinda like a lot.
There's gonna be no one left on the wire! Maybe five or six?
I'm also voting against ppreception or ppcarry.

dang, let me know if anyone drops out. ;_;

why do u guys hate ppr, i am leaving this league forever ;_;

kevin you can have my spot, you are more likely than myself to enjoy the company of this motley crew of rubes and clods~

More bench slots was ade's idea too, so I'll drop back down. xxxp

Yay kev!

Ok, as it stands now, each team has 12 active scoring roster positions every week with 6 bench slots.

wait ppl care about the RULES in fantasy football
hello anal guy with his own copy of the dungeonmaster's handbook

I like points per reception and +3 ring of kicking. I will also draft a gelatinous cube aka Ted Washington.

Bill Walsh rip ;_;

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/reed10/Gandalf.jpg

the tanqueray lewises are in.

holy shit, johnny fever, i didn't know that was you!

Yay rubes and clods!

http://kissmesuzy.blogspot.com/

bumped to get all the "haha nfl players are criminals and thugs" threads out of the top spot, that shouldn't last for long

well, whatever.

in the words of ea sports, it's in the game.

lol w/e tombot, if it was roguelike fantasy football you would be all over that shit~

fuck, there's a huge chance i'll be missing the draft as a friend's recital for her class at old town school of music is also the 19th. it's at some coffee house up in evanston, i'm praying they have wifi.

ha! kevin, i'm praying for the same, b/c that sounds like an 80s sitcom episode waiting to happen!

try not to lol during the recital when i draft Brady Quinn no.1

fuck, the recital is 1 to 3 and it will take me 90 minutes to get up to evanston on a sunday. plus there's an awesome show the night before and undoubtedly an afterparty so there's a huge chance i won't be coherent enough for the draft or the recital.

hmmm..... i need to plan.

Hungover kevin + live draft = fun tiemz!

i'll not be there for the first few rounds, gotta pick my son up from choir retreat; The Pre-rank Is Crucial.

Hungover kevin + live draft = fun tiemz!

-- Johnny Fever, Wednesday, August 8, 2007 8:34 PM (Wednesday, August 8, 2007 8:34 PM) Bookmark Link

i've known paul too long.

bump because draft is in 48 hours. everyone ready for this?

I've been studying my pre-rankings and am committing them to paper tonight.
Rudi Johnson at #6, if you were curious.

wow, that's a brave choice, considering the --

oh wait you probably already know about it. never mind.

i love fantasy football draft time more than anything.

yeah too bad i'm gonna miss the first 30-45 minutes GRRRR.

Jamal Lewis had better be there (at the love-in) when I draft

With this many people, we'll probably only be on the 3rd round by 30-45 minutes in.

t0dd's right, though. Even though this is only my second year playing, I've been waiting since the last week of the regular season in 2006 to draft AGAIN!

lol at d5 psych out

Couple of last-minute questions:
- do we have a draft order?
- why are interceptions worth only 1pt, when fumble recoveries are 2 and sacks are 3?

We didn't have individual defense player stats last year, so I was just winging it.

Draft order is random and will be determined by computer shortly before the draft starts.

No worries.. just curious. Man... 16 teams w/IDP = this is going to be a long draft!

I set most all IDP points to 2, but left shared tackles at 1. Long? Yeah, I'm ordering a pizza.

I'm gonna go get chicken and waffles and then set up at the computer for a three hour draft with my loving pit bull. Afterwards, it's Madden wii.
Life is good.

also:
http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20070809pdsteelers0808a_450.jpg

40 minutes and counting down! w00t

awyeaaah

...

2pts per tackle = zomg run on middle linebackers!!1!1

Tofu, is Banjo gonna hang for the draft? Hope she's feeling better...

Aw damn!! I'm 13th. :(

how do i shot chat?

try reloading the applet. I had to do it twice.

yup! muchas gracias!

Wtf, two points per tackle!?!?!

Yeah, it's crazy defense fun time!

No real complaints except for my receivers...junk city express.

Also, note to McNabb: you play healthy all year, or ELSE!

Wow. I need a nap.

so, who do we think has the best team (besides your own)? I think Keystone Krunchers can be deadly if his team stays healthy.

hard to say yet, because there's going to be some serious IDP free agency raiding before the season begins.

:D

btw, banjo DID hang out for the draft and she barked at a few picks.
Def. feeling better!

The interweb computer picked Favre as my QB.

post the draft results so i can wish you all ill!

QB Brett Favre - this could be the year he comes into his own as a starter
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Darrell Jackson
WR Ronald Curry (who?)
RB Willie Parker
RB Jamal Lewis (lol@homer)
TE Kellen Winslow (lol@homer)
W/R Warrick Dunn - had this dude last year, he disappointed. Cankels is this the guy I got for giving you LDT? Like a bad meal he returns.
BN Chad Pennington - hall of fame candidate
BN Dwayne Bowe
BN Kevin Faulk
BN Eric Parker
BN Jerramy Stevens

K Josh Brown

DEF Seattle
BN Atlanta

D Ellis Hobbs
D Dovonte Edwards

^Resulting Paste

oh whoops i forgot about this.

somehow i got rutgers own brian leonard?!?

THANKS COMPUTER!

ya lol i think it was dunn + gore. which honestly would've been a good deal4u in any other year, ie any year that didnt involve lt smashing like a billion records

dunn's gonna catch more passes this year (supposedly) so he'd be good for a PPR league oh wait

i like leonard!!!!!! i think he could be a legit halfback but they will prob just make him Another White Fullback~

guys i cant lie, i signed up for a LGBT league, i got invited to it after i was rejected from the DYKES ONLY league i stumbled upon. i think they drafted already but i've been too scared to check my roster :[

Team: Sleeve of Wizard
Manager: BruceSmithee

QB Alex Smith
WR Marques Colston
WR Deion Branch
WR Greg Jennings (WTFH4X o god i am not good at computers!!)
RB Joseph Addai
RB Brandon Jacobs
TE Heath Miller
W/R Julius Jones
BN Jay Cutler
BN Mike Bell
BN Ernest Wilford
BN Bobby Engram
BN Maurice Morris

K Stephen Gostkowski

DEF Green Bay

D Donnie Edwards
D Keith Bulluck

QB Carson Palmer
WR Brandon Jones
WR Eddie Kennison
WR Matt Jones
RB Larry Johnson
RB Ladell Betts
TE Antonio Gates
W/R LenDale White

K Adam Vinatieri

DEF Chicago

D Dan Klecko
D Derrick Johnson

ally i'm just lettin u know that u have my unilateral support during this conflict

Birdfingers = me!

QB Donovan McNabb
WR Wes Welker
WR Jerricho Cotchery (produced well-ish last year)
WR Michael Clayton
RB Maurice Jones-Drew (was my super-secret weapon last year)
RB Adrian Peterson
TE Todd Heap
W/R Dwayne Jarrett
K Matt Stover
BN Brodie Croyle
BN Michael Turner
BN Jason Campbell

DEF New England
BN Indianapolis

D DeMeco Ryans (!!)
D Ed Reed
BN Osi Umenyiora

I'll probably have to pick up scrappy WRs throughout the year, because (I think) all my dudes have a bye at Week 10.

btw, in case no one noticed, there are points for kick and punt returns this year.

Are those individual player points, or do they accrue to the DEF?

Individual player points.

when marvcus attacks (autopick)

1. (10) Brian Westbrook RB
2. (23) Torry Holt WR
3. (42) Randy Moss WR
4. (55) Fred Taylor RB
5. (74) Braylon Edwards WR
6. (87) Chris Cooley TE
7. (106) Eli Manning QB
8. (119) Jerry Porter WR
9. (138) Shayne Graham K
10. (151) Jacksonville DEF
11. (170) Mike Vrabel DL
12. (183) Joey Thomas DB
13. (202) Rex Grossman QB
14. (215) Adrian Peterson RB
15. (234) Correll Buckhalter RB
16. (247) Ben Troupe TE
17. (266) Ashley Lelie WR
18. (279) Lawrence Tynes K

meh...already playing the over/under on westbrook's first major injury.

Sorry about your quarterbacks :(

1. (4) Frank Gore RB
2. (29) Edgerrin James RB
3. (36) Marshawn Lynch RB
4. (61) Reggie Brown WR
5. (68) Calvin Johnson WR
6. (93) Matt Leinart QB
7. (100) Devery Henderson WR
8. (125) Dominic Rhodes RB
9. (132) Marty Booker WR
10. (157) Minnesota DEF
11. (164) Shawne Merriman DL
12. (189) Jason Taylor DL
13. (196) Adalius Thomas DL
14. (221) Daunte Culpepper QB
15. (228) Greg Olsen TE
16. (253) Josh Scobee K
17. (260) Tampa Bay DEF
18. (285) Najeh Davenport RB

Individual player points

hmm... guess I should have thought about that when I was drafting... O NOES

dont fail me rookies!

idk my bff jill

1. (2) Steven Jackson RB :D
2. (31) Larry Fitzgerald WR :)
3. (34) Tom Brady QB ;-)
4. (63) Santana Moss WR :?
5. (66) Jerious Norwood RB :`(
6. (95) Donte' Stallworth WR :((((
7. (98) L.J. Smith TE :O
8. (127) Pittsburgh DEF xD
9. (130) Drew Bennett WR 0-->---<
10. (159) Jason Hanson K :P
11. (162) Vernand Morency RB u_u
12. (191) Adrian Wilson DB @@
13. (194) Chris Hope DB ?????
14. (223) Antwaan Randle El WR ><
15. (226) Matt Schaub QB >_>
16. (255) Arizona DEF <_<
17. (258) Rob Bironas K @$%@#%
18. (287) Dan Campbell TE whoamilol

Mexico picked right in front of me and sniped my preferred pick twice and then heartbroke me in the second round.

1. (7) Rudi Johnson - Wanted Joseph Addai, but Rudi was sixth on my depth chart anyway; past drafts I've shied away from building a team on a reliable RB and regretted the hell out of it. Really enjoyed watching him play last year and wanted him.

2. (26) Reggie Wayne - hard to argue with + elite wr quickly disappearing by the second round due to some odd autopick stuff. Hoped against hope that my mancrush player Brandon "the giant that runs like a man" Jacobs would make it back around, then promptly lost him in the next pick SOB SOB SOB

3. (39) Deuce McAllister - last of my top twenty backs left on the board, though I would've preferred Colston. A tetch gun shy on this pick: not entirely sure I believe th' Deuce has another 1000 yd/10td year in his quiver but I'd dearly love for him to prove me wrong.

4. (58) Terry Glenn - Third year in a row with me and Glenn; I really like him to rebound with an even stronger season in 08 when TO's operating system seizes up and he begins publicly arguing with new coach/sodomizing Romo/doing sit ups in the huddle.

5. (71) Jon Kitna - Elite QB's picked over and I took a chance on a player who I've never seen take a snap. The buzz is good, but it's DETROIT and I simply do not trust eggs in this basket. I'd say QB is my weakest position right now; I really need Kitna to come through with a defining season or I'm gonna be doing a lot of waiver wire crawling.

6. (90) Vincent Jackson - Everyone's favorite sleeper, the charger's #1 receiver and my new favorite Madden receiver; dude played a game last year with a bone poking through his hand. I look forward to him playing a full game without a head.

7. (103) San Diego - Rush on defenses (in the fifth round?!?!) + solid 3wr and 2rbs = me taking my 4th pick team defense in the seventh. I blame peer pressure.

8. (122) LaMont Jordan - 40% chance of "steal of the draft", 40% chance of "dumped in the fifth week and reviled", 20% chance of "fucking with my head all season with drastically inconsistent play". Place yer bets!

9. (135) Amani Toomer - I just need one giant or jet on the team so I have an incentive to watch the home games. Toomer is feast or famine and he's due for a good year, mehopes.

10. (154) Ron Dayne - I feel good about Dayne becoming Houston's goal line back; I think I may end up falling back on Ron in the W/R position when/if Lamont fractures his spleen.

11. (167) Desmond Clark - The last "name" TE on the board that I trust.

12. (186) Jake Delhomme - One more Jake? Jake? Jake, are you breathing? Jake?
I'd still rather have him than Grossman, Leftwich, Favre and Pennington.

13. (199) Olindo Mare - He kicks balls.

14. (218) Chris Henry - I drafted this guy KNOWING that he was in some sort of trouble and then discovered that he's serving an eight game suspension, so he promptly got dumped in favor of Antonio Pierce.

15. (231) Marcus Pollard - maybe if shaun has a comeback season, the ball will get shared a bit? I like to have two starting TEs.

16. (250) Troy Polamalu - Lotsa tackles, very fast
17. (263) Zach Thomas - ditto
18. (282) Ronde Barber - see above

o and I am Banjo Bad Newz Krewz

THE FOZZIE BEARS

STARTERS:
QB: Peyton Manning
RB: Thomas Jones
RB: Marion Barber
W/R: Tatum Bell
WR: Bernard Berrian
WR: Santonio Holmes
WR: Mike Furrey
TE: Owen Daniels
K: Ryan Longwell
DEF: San Francisco
D: Lance Briggs
D: Cato June

BENCH:
QB: Brady Quinn
RB: Kevin Jones
RB: Brandon Jackson
WR: Troy Williamson
WR: James Jones
D: Julian Peterson

Hopefully, for you, Schaub will throw to Owen Daniels in the end zone as much as Carr liked to.

News: "After Matt Schaub hit TE Owen Daniels for 45 yards on three catches at Arizona, he told the Houston Chronicle that he's going to have an eye for Daniels this season. "I've always liked throwing to my tight ends," Schaub said. "They can be an incredible asset in the middle of the field. It keeps the safeties back and helps open up the running game."
Analysis: "Daniels is officially in the conversation as a low-end No. 1 Fantasy TE. Because the Texans run the west-coast offense, he'll get a lot of receptions. Look for him as a late-round steal in all leagues this season."

oh, yeah!

so who wants to trade me a WR for one or two of my RBs???
i'd like to move tatum bell and kevin jones in a package deal for a WR better than what i've already got.

Who Dat Ninjas:

QB Drew Brees
WR TJ Houshmandzadeh
WR Laveranues Coles
WR Joe Horn
RB LaDainian Tomlinson
RB Chris Henry
TE Tony Gonzalez
W/R Reuben Droughns
WR Reggie Williams*
WR Nate Burleson
QB Jeff Garcia
WR Joe Jurevicius
K Nate Kaeding
K Jay Feely
DEF Philadelphia
DEF Kansas City
D Bandon McGowan
D Chidi Iwuoma

*very temporary

Yeah, I think you're the guy to beat.
Not to bitch or get sour grapey, but I probably need to do an auction draft next year. Picking in the top four is SUCH a benefit.

I don't know if I have the best team, but I sure have the hardest names to spell.

TJ Whosyermama?

Also, you could probably play with just RB spot filled each week and probably win %70 of your head-to-head matches.

hahaha, I'm projected to lose by 10 in week 1.

Pick up some IDPs that are worth a damn out of free agency sometime tomorrow.

also, i never thought I'd have opportunity to say this, but JESSICA ALBA STOP BOTHERING ME

Yeah, I was just scoping out the available defensive players. #16 in waiver priority...still, I'll improve the team.

Waivers disappear and free agency starts tomorrow (8/22), so don't blow a waiver on anyone yet.

my new team name is my 2nd favorite fantasy team name ever (#1: my son's baseball team "The Rural Jurors")

For the benefit of kibitzers, what're the team names!?

i am Sex Boat All-Stars

Impeach Reggie Bush - Hstencil
Banjo Bad Newz Krewz - Forksclovetofu
Sleeve of Wizard - rogermexico
the fall fridays - cosmic schef or whatever ally's callin' herself now
tanqueray lewises - Chicago kevin
Ocho Cinco de mayo - johnny crunch
When Marvcus Attacks - j.q. higgins
The Fozzie Bears - mike jonze
Sex Boat All-Stars - todd swiss
Who Dat Ninjas - Rock Hardy
idk my bff jill - bnw
Resulting Paste - brownie
Birdfingers - Johnny Fever
Shark Week - ?
HowDoISchottenheimer - ?
Keystone Krunchers - ?

/spreadsheet

HowDoISchottenheimer = TY LOL!!!

HowDoISchottenheimer = me

but i'm ashamed to post my team, kinda lame-oid. oh well

Philip Rivers QB
Reggie Bush, Cedric Benson RB
Donald Driver, Hines Ward, Devin Hester WR (return yards count)
Vernon Davis TE
John Kasay K
Buffalo DEF
London Fletcher-Baker, Julius Peppers IDP (Peppers might have to change though, doesn't get any tackles because they never run at him because rest of line is lame)

still don't know what do do about my W/R, either Leon Washington for vulture scores or Joshua Cribbs for return yards)

Shark Week, Keystone Krunchers and The Fozzie Bears are all guys I know from another board, but invited to play in this league.

Re: Peppers

I watched the Panthers/Pats game last night and Jon Beason was all over the place tackling anyone who came his way. He might be the Panthers' secret DL weapon this year.

true dat. also Kasay = teh suck

Fozzie Jonze, I'm giving that trade proposal some serious thought. Gimme a day to chew on it.

hi,

I (sex boat all-stars) am looking to upgrade my wr and/or my team def. i will entertain trade offers!

Spoiled much? That's a pretty good WR set you've got already.

Fozzie, no offense; I just ain't giving up Jackson at this point for anything other than a top thirty player. Behind Brees arm and the always potent LDT threat, I'm gonna guess he gets 12 touchdowns this year.

Unless of course he goes on injured list, in which case check back!

after my trading debacles last year (LDT gone from my team, Randy Moss welcomed with open arms) I have worked out a deal with Yahoo that disables my trade button.

tofu, you know brees does not play in san diego, right? i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant philip rivers. anyhow, i struck a deal w/ who dat ninjas instead.

jonze, I think you got hosed on that trade, but I pushed it through anyway.

I spent a day asking myself "what's the catch here?"

HowDoISchottenheimer = me

-- Dimension 5ive

Oops yeh I figured that, I just wanted to make a TY LOL joke, but fer shure, best fantasy name I've ever read. ^_^

pleh, I meant rivers. Typing at work in hurry.
I actually do sorta lump them together though, so that mightve been freudian.

fer shure, best fantasy name I've ever read. ^_^

ya rly - i'm prepared to forfeit Week 1 based on name alone

i don't think i got hosed. i had the depth at RB to trade barber. and i also think julius jones may get a few of those goal line carries that barber had last season. and mike furrey is certainly not going to have the same kind of numbers he finished with last season, now that calvin johnson is around. i was willing to part with those two in order to make a significant upgrade to my team of WRs, which is exactly what houshmandzadeh does. he's only going to improve on last season's stats w/o chris henry around for the first ten weeks. trust me. it's not going to be tab perry that gets all those additional throws. and defenses can't double t.j. with chad johnson on the other side of the field. i think this trade was good for both teams involved, which is how it should be.

I'm counting on Tab to get short routes (a lot of them)...well, on the bye weeks of my better receivers anyway.

<i>after my trading debacles last year (LDT gone from my team, Randy Moss welcomed with open arms) I have worked out a deal with Yahoo that disables my trade button.

-- brownie, Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link</i>

Consider the one I just threw your way, at least. My soft spot for SEC players knows no bounds.

Ok dude, I accepted. :/

Who reviews trades that the commish makes?

You guys, I didn't even make the playoffs last year, but this year, I'm going to attempt...not sure it'll happen, but I'll ATTEMPT...to stomp you all in the kidneys. I bought new boots for it and everything.

Who reviews trades that the commish makes?

That's a good question I don't even know the answer to. For anyone who's curious, it's a trade of Dwayne Jarrett/Dante Hall for Dwayne Bowe.

brownie, it doesn't show you having accepted yet. Just says it's still pending.

OK it's a go. Dwaynes have been traded.

inconsequential trade. no review necessary IMO. all three of those guys will spend time on the waiver wire this season.

Hall's useful in this league, at least, because runback yardage counts.

On my end, Bowe looks to be the chief (no pun intended) counter receiver to Kennison.

Drew Brees, I'm starting you instead of Garcia this week. Don't disappoint me, beyotch!

Man, I wish I had Reggie Wayne in the ILNFL league! I've got him in a second fantasy league I don't really care about, so that's a small consolation.

FUK YEW DREW

is Drew Brees hurt?

He played like a man concussed.

Jonze, I liked the Fozzie Bears better, but Lawn Wranglers is good too.

So far this week, Brees + LaDainian = NEGATIVE ONE POINTS, LOLOLOL.

London Fletcher is singlehandedly kicking my ass.

LaDainian redeemed.
Anybody else bought stattracker? Cuz I did.

I bought it last year, so this year it's your responsibility to post scores every week!

(well, after this week, cos everyone gets it free as a teaser)

I'll probably get it too, this year.

Damn tofu, you're already at 113 and Rudi doesn't even play til Monday night!

lol tofu u stil want BJacobs trade?

haha we are tied wtf

I caught a lucky storm; especially on IDP.
mexico, let's talk about derrick ward.

two days w/out internet is a crippling thing without a waiver order - do we have, like, 100% free agency all the time in this league?

birdfingers vs. lawn wranglers should be a good one this week.

so wait we gotta pay to see teh scorez now? that's just cold.

Yah, sucks. I had it last year and I'll probably spring for it again this year when I've got a spare 10 bucks.

wtf BROWNS?!!!

ok fuck you jp losman.

on the behalf of lee evans that is.

xxpost -- oops, wrong thread.

so some fantasy advice needed, i have been proposed derrick ward for roy williams. my inclination is to say no, though i kinda hate how i seemingly never accept trades in fantasy leagues. what does ilnfl think? yeah i thought so. naw just kidding, please tell me what to do.

also my team sucks. in my other league i'm not doing so bad today though.

who are your other rbs/wrs, how many do you start, etc.?

I'd be inclined to accept that one, for the simple fact that WRs are either feast or famine and RBs at least get you some number of points every week

But as JS says above, I don't know anything else about your roster.

but i'd be inclined to say yes as well if you want to use ward as a 3rd rb or if you guys have a rb/wr spot.

hes good for at least 70 yds a game i'd imagine, plus 1-2 tds every game or two.

I HAT U CARNELL WILLIAMS. I HAD U LAST YEAR AND YOU SUCKED!

This is so awesome, Brees has matched his -1 points from last week. Way to go, hi fives!

Do any of you guys play in other non-Yahoo leagues where the live scoring is FREE? If so, I say we relocate ILNFL next year.

cosign dat

I'm in a CBS sportsline league where live scoring is free. Can't remember if there's a cost for the league itself, but I don't think so...

my team, impeach reggie bush '07:

vince young qb
t.o. wr
roy williams wr
kevin curtis wr
shaun "homoclap" alexander rb
chester taylor rb
jason witten te
derrick mason wr
j.p. losman qb (bench)
tony hunt rb (bench)
lorenzo booker rb (bench)
kevin walter wr (bench)
david thomas te (bench)
jason elam k
dallas d
cincy d (bench)
justin miller db
mel mitchell db

i much prefer espn fantasy football to yahoo, btw.

my team in that league is rollin' 70-31 right now.

this is a terrible team. i would do the trade and hope to pick up a hot random wr who catches fire.
obvi you can't go at it starting chester taylor much longer.

DOES ESPN HAVE LIVE SCORING FOR FREE?

I just looked at NFL.com/CBS league setup and it looks like there's a 12-team max for private leagues and the scoring seems to be predetermined (no customization).

Will look at ESPN now.

If enough people agree, maybe we can switch before Week 3?

Nix ESPN...custom league creation is already closed for the season. :(

espn has live scoring for free, yes.

switching over this season would be too complicated/stupid.

You're right...plus a couple people have already given Yahoo their $10. I'd hate to waste their monies.

people paid for this shit?

I AM SOLICITING YOUR ADVICE, FANTASY NERDS, STILL.

You have two go votes for a trade.

I have run into a buzzsaw this week, and its name is Braylon Edwards

Dammit, I left Bowe on the bench. :(

fuck you, carson palmer. loser

haha 6tds!

and 401 yards. thanks to steve smith i'm still only down seven, tho

KITNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Also, who picked up Cinci defense? Burned.

with all games but pats/chargers and wash/philly:

HowDoISchottenheimer
60
Banjo Bad Newz Krewz
75

Lawn Wranglers
98
Birdfingers
89

tanqueray lewises
106
Shark Week
118

Ocho Cinco de mayo
83
Sex Boat All-Stars
104

the fall fridays
83
Who Dat Ninjas
103

Keystone Krunchers
72
Resulting Paste
96

Impeach Reggie Bush
69
idk my bff jill
51

L'il Travises
96
When Marvcus Attacks
68

thx!

some of those scores are going to be adjusted - I know I'm credited with some unearned points there, not sure why...

PS tanquerat lewises looking for Akers' leg to deliver the come-from-behind victory tomorrow. Whoever takes that one, sucks to be (possibly) the week's second-highest scorer and lose yr game.

I know that since the league gives tackle points to IDPs this year, everyone who makes a tackle (solo or assist) gets points added later.

Thank god for IDPs, assuming my QB never shows up for work.

I'm more perplexed by M. Colston's 70 yards +TD being good for 15 points...

Okay, I concede the season.

as do i, ocho cinco cant catch a break...im so changing my team name.

That's weird about Colston. They're crediting him with one Rec TD and one Rush TD, but that ain't right.

Not that it matters. I have no answer for the unstoppable force that is Braylon Edwards.

They'll sort it out at about 3am EDT when they do the final scoring update.

my sex boat is full of all-stars this week! also, Minnesota Defense is going to score a TD every week this year!

Only Monday night left; potential Monday night turnarounds starred:

*HowDoISchottenheimer 60
Banjo Bad Newz Krewz 82

Lawn Wranglers 98
*Birdfingers 83

*(akers needs 4 fgs) tanqueray lewises 106
Shark Week 118

pregnant cornbread 94
Sex Boat All-Stars 116

the fall fridays 92
Who Dat Ninjas 109

Keystone Krunchers 72
Resulting Paste 105

Impeach Reggie Bush 69
idk my bff jill 76

L'il Travises 104
*When Marvcus Attacks 93

wtf man

It's probably because your IDPs are shitty.

Dump your DBs and pick up some linebackers.

is idp what those juggalo kids are into?

icp, jugga!

i need clinton portis to score tonight ;_;

I need McNabb to throw for 3 tds and have no interceptions tonight. That's a tall order with the Washington D this year. :(

Larry Johnson and Ronnie Brown are murdering my $ team. I am never picking good players from crappy teams again.

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02-07/0222blog_ljohnson.jpg

Stencil, u gonna take that trade or watt?

Wah, I'm an 0-2 TEAM!!!

I DONT KNOW I NEED MORE ADVICES

*(akers needs 4 fgs) tanqueray lewises 106

thank you!

I've got both Cutler and Garrard in a two QB league with Palmer in the first slot. With Jax at Denver, I'm leaning toward Cutler, but they've both been playing like little sleepy squirrels lately.

Unfortunately for my MJ-Drew, the Jags have been concentrating on the passing game so far this year. As much as it pains me to recommend it, go with Garrard.

Ha. Tell that to Matt Jones.

When I heard "That's Aker's fourth field goal" something in my head went "Wait a second..."

Just like last year, my roster is weak at the QB position. I'm starting Campbell over McNabb in week 3, even though they're both going against defenses this week that resemble swiss cheese (WAS vs NYG/PHI vs DET). If one of them doesn't step up and get me some points (they're at 11 and 10 for the year, respectively), I'm gonna eat my own head.

i think that i am going to lose this week :(

ooooh, if I had two wunning backs you would all be in trouble grrr

yeah, somehow autodrafting stocked me with wr's and eff'ed me with rb's

i haven't even really paid attention to my team. oh well.

i beat you is all you really need to know ;D

stence, if that's going to be the case, do you feel like offloading T.O.?

maybe.

Okay, I proposed a trade that would only be considerable if you plan on forfeiting your ilnfl season. ;)

be serious.

Well, like I said...it was only a pipedream trade if you plan on abandoning yr team.

How good do I feel about reversing my QB start back to McNabb right now?!

fu Ronnie Brown

Johnny Fever I hate you, you might have the single highest fantasy score ever this week!

oops sorry, wrong league; my other team is up against a dude with BOTH McNabb AND Westbrook in his starting lineup. This week I'm losing to someone else.

I don't have the stattracker, so I have no idea. chicago kevin got 120 last week.

Just be glad the guy in your other league doesn't have Curtis too.

(I have him in my other league, but left him riding the bench ;_;)

Following the Dallas game; basically, these are the final scores. No one who's losing could realistically come back with even a solid monday night performance.

When Marvcus Attacks 116
Banjo Bad Newz Krewz 66

Sex Boat All-Stars 54
Birdfingers 138

Lawn Wranglers 74
Shark Week 68

pregnant cornbread 51
Who Dat Ninjas 85

the fall fridays 38
Resulting Paste 104

Keystone Krunchers 45
idk my bff jill 93

Impeach Reggie Bush 111
HowDoISchottenheimer 84

tanqueray lewises 127
L'il Travises 91

sweet! first stop on the comeback trail, baby!

HOT DAMN 138!!!

I can't see my actual points yet, but I bet it has to do with McNabb, the NE defense, Matt Stover and my IDPs Ryans and Willis.

My RBs and WRs are average at best.

127, alright.

JF, you got 23 points from Ryans and 13 from Peterson.

Man do I love DeMeco Ryans! (roll tide!)

with updated points, I'm within striking distance if Vince Young has a horrible game and Reggie Bush has an amazing one (hahahahahahahaha oh never mind)

Well, the Saints haven't played at home yet. Maybe that's what wrong with them?

yeah, westbrook was helpful.

of my 127 points i think ronny brown got me 118 of them. odd, because he killed me in my other league.

hahaha, you guys, if I ever get a real QB I'll be awes.

Sunday and Monday night games notwithstanding; asterisked folks still can come back and win:

L'il Travises 78
*Banjo Bad Newz Krewz 75

Who Dat Ninjas 81
*Birdfingers 62 (Donovan needs a good game)

Sex Boat All-Stars 74
*Shark Week 61

*tanqueray lewises 96
Lawn Wranglers 102

pregnant cornbread 57
Resulting Paste 81

*the fall fridays 33 (possible but highly unlikely... four empty spots!)
idk my bff jill 46

Keystone Krunchers 21 (final! ouch!)
HowDoISchottenheimer 116

Impeach Reggie Bush 74
When Marvcus Attacks 67* (actually, it's pretty much his win)

or rather _withstanding_, not notwithstanding.
I get those confused.

Ally and Hynes have apparently abandoned their teams, so anyone playing them should have a guaranteed win.

I HAT U DONOVAN

C'mon Wes Welker, get me 40 points on Monday Nite!!!

Also, I now feel dumb for dumping Osi into waivers after week 1. :(

cadil-ack :(

Wow, not only am I going to win this week, but maybe by the largest margin in history.

Yeah, that score is very o_O

THANKS DONOVAN, YR CAN OF CHUNKY SOUP IS IN THE MAIL

housh vs. vrabel, to decide the lawn wranglers vs. tanqueray lewises matchup. go TJ!

My draft is starting to look really depressing: two of my top four picks are done for the season (Terry Glenn and Deuce) and my number one pick is gimpy and underproductive (Rudi).

If Kitna had thrown for THREE MORE FUCKING YARDS, I'd be up seven points instead of two and have half a chance at winning this week.

I'm sort of happy with my roster the way it is right now, and could probably win most weeks if I just wasn't benching the WRONG PLAYERS!

If Kitna had thrown for THREE MORE FUCKING YARDS, I'd be up seven points instead of two and have half a chance at winning this week.

It is indeed a game of inches.

Impeach Reggie Bush 74
When Marvcus Attacks 67* (actually, it's pretty much his win)

-- forksclovetofu, Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

care to elaborate? he have brady or something?

oh nevermind, he's already beating me. and he has moss going up against the bengals d. oi vey.

I'm sort of happy with my roster the way it is right now, and could probably win most weeks if I just wasn't benching the WRONG PLAYERS!

If you'd played your optimal lineup and I played the same guys, we'd be tied going into tonight's game, with me done and you with Welker's points still to come. (StatTracker might be a little bit of a ripoff, but it does have tasty info-on-the-fly like that.) I missed out on 18 points, myself. (Kaeding, Furrey, KC-DEF)

Ally, if you ever come back, I wanna trade wit u (after week 5).

I don't know whether to be excited or nervous that Brees is probably going to have to throw more. (Bush can't get ALL of Deuce's carries.)

JOHN FOX, EAT SHIT AND DIE DIE DIE

With 2 games to go:

Shark Week 46
Who Dat Ninjas 65

Resulting Paste 52
Birdfingers 103

Sex Boat All-Stars 44
All-Time Jones 63

JESUS THESIS 67
idk my bff jill 99

the fall fridays 29
HowDoISchottenheimer 90

Keystone Krunchers 28
When Marvcus Attacks 103

Impeach Reggie Bush 22
L'il Travises 73

tanqueray lewises 68
Banjo Bad Newz Krewz 102

Somewhere, Devery Henderson is laughing.

Damn, I don't know who scored what, but I know I didn't get points from at least TWO of my players (Figurs, Heap)...so the others must have picked up the slack.

22?!?!?

stence, you still have four Monday night players (although one of your IDPs is out...ugh).

Fever, exactly half of your points came from your three defensive spots.

(You're up to 104)

Changed my team name...can't have anything that references the Saints anymore (even if it actually references 30 Rock).

sooo, robbie gould & aj hawk good for 40 pts? will be getting to know 0-5 v. soon...ouch

i'm down by 34, need a big game by urlacher i suppose.

waitasec: only the top SIX teams do the playoffs? Really? Not the top eight?

Yeah, I thought that was screwy too, but three playoff weeks with six teams was the most I could squeeze out of the Yahoo set-up. I think there were only three choices re: playoffs and that was the most inclusive.

That's crazy (on Yahoo's part, I guess), since two teams get a bye in the first playoff week. It wouldn't take any longer to go from eight teams than six teams to a winner.

PLAYOFFS??? Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I'm just hoping we can win another game!!

But coach, delicious Coors Light helps you win EVERY game. Don't you think?

those Coors Light spots make me grrrr...

Aaaaand no more trades now?

Yeah, trades are still functional. I accidentally reset the "moves" tally, though. oops

LOL COMISH R DRKN

I have a bad feeling about this game.

HOLY SHIIIIIIIT THAT WAS CLOSE

Look, I hate to be a dick, but that Birdfingers/Ally trade is NOT cool.
Carson Palmer and Antonio Gates for Todd Heap and Jason Campbell? UH

whoa, that's TOTALLY not cool.

RILLY RILLY NOT COOL

If I'd known Gates and Palmer were on the block, I'd have offered Heath Miller and Gus Frerotte easy.

Damn, my home email picked a bad day to go down. But no, that doesn't sound too cool.

xpost -- I think Ally tanked the season even before the draft.

Fellas, they were out there for the asking, because it was obvious to everyone that Ally orphaned her team early on. All I did was propose it to her just like any of you could've done anytime you wanted. :P

*

Seriously though dude, all due respect, it's not cool to pillage a fantasy player who tanks for choice bits. All leagues frown on that.

Seriously though dude, all due respect, it's not cool to pillage a fantasy player who tanks for choice bits. All leagues frown on that.

troof

Well, it's not like I'm buring up the standings as it is (I'm 2-3-0), thanks to a bunch of B-list receivers and hot/cold running backs. My only strength before this trade was my IDPs and one week of McNabb going crazy with the pass.

wtf aren't we supposed to get veto votes on that?

Well, it's not like I'm buring up the standings as it is (I'm 2-3-0)

Though you are #3 in points...

Anyhoo, trade for like value and it's not an issue.

All I did was propose it to her just like any of you could've done anytime you wanted. :P

only difference being you could reject our trades, and no one can reject yours...

Who reviews trades that the commish makes?

-- Rock Hardy, Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:12 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

That's a good question I don't even know the answer to. [...]

-- Johnny Fever, Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:18 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

Just in case it's an issue in the future, any trade is okay with me. I won't reject anything.

Okay, but we're still vetoing this one.

Too late, the banker's already raided Free Parking.

^^LOL

yeah, that's a garbage trade. no denying it.

C'mon people, it's not like I traded her Rex Grossman and Vernon Davis. Campbell exists somewhere in the middle of the QB pack and Heap is in the upper class of TE's.

almost, man. everyone knows palmer is the best QB in the game behind brady & manning and gates is unquestionably head and shoulders above any other TE in the league. campbell's on the waiver wire in another league i'm playing in. todd heap could be considered a top 5 tight end, but he is also battling injury. srsly, any league that allowed voting on trades, this would get squashed unanimously. this is why all of us other owners are livid.

Well, chalk it up to my inexperience then. I didn't know it was a fantasy taboo.

I'm still not getting rid of them, though.

I just tried to change it from commissioner approval to league approval, but that had to have been set before the season. :(

Everybody HATES me!

Hate is such a strong word. I don't hate you, but I would drop your favorite shoes in a bucket of piss.

No! Not my Pony 74 Starters!

Yes, those very shoes. And that's just because I've already played you and won. If I were one of the nine teams coming up for you, I'd drop all of your shoes into the piss, and then upper deck your toilet.

No one on here believes that's a "like value" trade; a fair trade might have been campbell and heap for gates, but only barely. My guess is that those were her "can't cut" players in any case.

I'd propose that all of Ally's players go entirely off limits for this year to everyone except her and ally trades back those players. Otherwise, it's hand in the cookie jar for whoever dips.

I really don't want to be all "SERIOUS BUSINESS" on here, but I for one devote WAY too much time to fantasy to feel comfortable with this kind of inconsistency in the genepool. 2-3 at the start of the season could easily turn into 7-5 in December. Furthermore, the heat of Bengals and Chargers teams fighting to make the playoffs will almost certainly make those two players incredibly necessary and hot at the end of the season.

Be fair, commish. Convene a vote on the ILNFL board and abide with the outcome.

Trading them back seems fair and right to me.

Okay, here's what I'll do...

I'm keeping Palmer, but I'll trade McNabb to someone who lost a starting QB already and had to settle for an unreliable starter.

I'll trade Gates for a utilitarian TE and a semi-productive WR combo to someone who's already stocked up on awesome receivers and has a TE to spare.

Does this sound fair? I'm not going to bother Ally with this again, as she's obviously occupied with other things. B this way, the impact of these players entering the pool again is lessened and maybe a couple people who are hurting can get a little bump.

B? But, rather.

and had to settle for an unreliable starter.

I'll give you Brees for him, lol

I've proposed McNabb to Sex Boat All-Stars for Kurt Warner and Gates to Shark Week for Shockey (without the earlier WR qualifier...just a straight TE/TE trade). Even QB trade, weighted TE trade, sound good?

Of course, they don't have to take these trades, but I just thought I'd throw them out there.

ugh...just quit playing dumb & innocent and instead play fair and reset everything to the state it was in pre-trade. i thought this would be a serious league when i signed up. if not, i'll quickly be done with it.
do i really need to bring up a previous incident?

lol i unilaterally support johnny fever in this matter

these niggas just pissed cuz they didnt think of that trade first... u do u, dogg!

FUCK!

1. The only other league I've ever played in EVER was ILNFL last year, and trades were reviewed by commissioner, right? They were, iirc. I didn't know that league approval was such a big fucking deal.

2. See above. I also didn't know that trading with orphaned teams was a big fucking deal either, as I distinctly remember doing it last year when blount was having his fantasy firesale because he was going to ditch his season (and I wasn't the only one).

3. You all need to quit busting my fucking balls on something I did that seemed perfectly sensible at the time. Frankly, I couldn't believe no one had offered Ally a trade before I did...NOW I know why, but at that time I didn't.

4. I've offered to fix this as best as I can without undoing the trade altogether, so get the fuck over it.

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/RichardNixonFarewell.jpg

Ha, exactly!

Fever: When you get in these people when you...get these people in, say: "Look, the problem is that this will open the whole, the whole ILNFL thing, and the Commissioner just feels that" ah, without going into the details... don't, don't lie to them to the extent to say there is no involvement, but just say this is sort of a comedy of errors, bizarre, without getting into it, "the Commissioner believes that it is going to open the whole ILNFL thing up again. And, ah because these people are plugging for, for keeps and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for ILE, don't go any further into this case", period!

Cankles: OK

Fever: That's the way to put it, do it straight (Unintelligible)

Cankles: Get more done for our cause by the opposition than by us at this point.

Fever: You think so?

Cankles: I think so, yeah.

Cankles, were you in this league, you would be whining like six bitches.

I'm out of the pool on the issue at this point; this is kinda wack.

But onward to week 6.

ILNFL: teh * season

hey, man. i'm done arguing about it. if conniving your way to winning a few more games in this bogus league helps you feel better about yourself and sleep better at night, then go for it. but don't try to tell me you were powerless to go and switch it back. you're the commish. you have the control to make roster moves for any of our teams.
anyway, i'll be trying to win it fair & square. in the meantime, i haven't forgotten what happened in week 2.

I'm done bitching about this particular fuckup, but I have a question for next year. If trades are set to league approval instead of commish approval, does it take majority approval or unanimous approval for it to go through?

^^think it can be fixed at a certain percentage. i seem to recall being in other leagues where 1/3 disapproval could axe a trade..

last/only thing i'll say: that's total bullshit if you didn't think or can't see why everyone has a problem with this...speaking for myself but probably/hopefully most folks perspective is not that you just thought of this first and beat dudes to the punch but that i would never consider proposing some ripoff trade to someone else who's all but quit the league...if you think that's 'sensible' that's pretty effed, man..

Johnny Fever has apologized and is moved on.

But to put this painful incident behind us once and for all plz change team name to CHEATING CHEATMASTERS before going all Belichuckles on league kthx.

Pickpocketfingers

Ooh, I do like Belichuckles!

Next year, I <i>will not</i> be the commissioner...no way, no how! However, yeah...I think the Yahoo! standard for league approved trades is 1/3 disapproval and is probably the same in other fantasy leagues too.

However, I still have absolutely no ethical pains over making that trade with Ally. If someone else had done it, I'd just say "d'oh!" and move on sort of upset that I didn't think of it first. This league approval stuff is for the birds, but if everyone else wants it that way then who am I to bitch about it? I'd never vote yes or no on a trade. If someone's willing to take a running back who has 3 yards all season for someone like Ronnie Brown (just for example), that's his/her own cross to bear. I don't see why all the other players in the league feel entitled to have veto rights over something like that. Even before this, I had no intention of ever squashing a trade, no matter how lopsided it might have been.

And Jonzey, you sure are fucking cranky for someone who's already beat me this year. Let it go.

Dude, it's like you think this is "Survivor: ILNFL" and you can form a coalition with another manager! I know you think that it's not collusion if you're making a deal with a manager who doesn't give a shit one way or another, but the rest of us were under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that this is a mano-a-mano competition of draft, FA and start-em/sit-em smarts.

the rest of us were under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that this is a mano-a-mano competition of draft, FA and start-em/sit-em smarts

Yeah, and that's how I've perceived it all along too. I'm not in a coalition with Ally or anyone else. I went after players I wasn't even sure I'd get, but then I did. Thirteen other people had the same opportunity. I still don't think it was wrong or cheating or poor sportsmanship, no matter how many times anyone says it is. Trades are just as much a part of fantasy as the draft, free agency, waivers and starting/sitting smarts are, and if you don't think a trade someone's offered you makes any sense then you're free to squash it. However, I think it's fucked if other managers have a village mentality about it and fuss about having yes/no power over a transaction between two individual managers. Lovie Smith doesn't have a say about a trade between Cleveland and Carolina, so wtf!

However, I still have absolutely no ethical pains over making that trade with Ally. If someone else had done it, I'd just say "d'oh!" and move on sort of upset that I didn't think of it first.

JF, I'm over it except for the roffles, but the issue here is apparently Fantasy Football n00bness. No one else thought of it because it's UNTHINKABLE. It's not that it's just lopsided. It's a major breach of etiquette, which is why we've all been waving our hankies about it. Like farting in church or dropping in on someone else's wave - just not done.

This league approval stuff is for the birds, but if everyone else wants it that way then who am I to bitch about it? I'd never vote yes or no on a trade. If someone's willing to take a running back who has 3 yards all season for someone like Ronnie Brown (just for example), that's his/her own cross to bear. I don't see why all the other players in the league feel entitled to have veto rights over something like that. Even before this, I had no intention of ever squashing a trade, no matter how lopsided it might have been.

Have you ever participated in a fantasy league that wasn't free?

Not every participant in a lopsided trade is actually trying to improve their own team.

Note that the etiquette breach is not the lopsided trade qua lopsided trade; it's making a lopsided trade with an abandoned team.

And I frankly don't need league approval - then you just get people voting against trades based on their own matchups!

Lovie doesn't, but Goodell does, and I think you forgot at the worst moment that you wear two hats in this league. (xxxpost)

roger otm x3

Oh, so because I'm a manager AND the commissioner I have to suffer in the W/L column rather than make advantageous trades?

I get NOW that trading with a dead team is poor form, alright. I mean, I get that it is, but I still don't get why it is.

i'll trade bobby wade for randy moss or terrel owens straight up right now if either of you jokers wanna pull the trigger.

go go commish tuomas.

ZING!!!!!!

i am so tempted to dump my good players on another team for nothing, but don't want to further wreck the league b/c some ppl still might care

Dear bnw.

The league is not wrecked. Also, I would've beaten you this week with or without Palmer and Gates.

Thanks,
JF

if i had any good players i'd do it.

but i really really don't.

Let's play on, I don't think the season is scrod.

xpost -- the nice thing is that we'll be able to test the truth of that statement.

haha i missed this whole controversy. also, haha, my team sucks.

I kept hoping you'd chime in with opinions n' zings n' stuff!

my team really really really blows. plus i have like 4 starters on bye this week.

My 4-1 record against bad teams has concealed a lot of weaknesses. Making the playoffs will take every ounce of courage and cheating I can muster.

It's taking every bit of willpower I have not to start Brees instead of Garcia.

Brees is having a great season! If his line starts blocking and any receivers other than Colston start catching the ball the Saints will be back in business...

Last I looked, Brees has 9 INTs. Can't blame all of that on the line.

Yeah, he's spending every dollar he earns, fantasy-points-wise. Meanwhile, Little Jeffie is pick-less. I can't help thinking Brees is going to break out big one of these weeks and I'm going to have him on the bench, but thinking like that is why I don't bet on ponies or dogs, or blackjack, or slot machines, or dice or roulette wheels.

Plus, depending on Brees kinda means having to depend on Devery Henderson, and he gave me The Fear last weekend.

for the record, Jason Campbell (who I traded away) is doing better than either Palmer or McNabb right now.

i've got campbell in my other league but i picked up derek anderson who has been my starter the last couple weeks (last week's bye notwithstanding).

(oof! why the hell you no good today, MoJo Drew?)

then perhaps you should've kept and played him as we repeatedly urged you to do, xpost.

s'ok

stencil, f'r fuck's sake man, put in a kicker on your team.

i can't! dude i have is locked. lemme see...

great, morten anderson.

fucking a, i hate yahoo.

(sorry MoJo, I apologize for doubting you up above there...we're good)

srsly, ur gonna have a crapload of pts this wk

Yeah, everyone on my roster this week earned their keep, that's for sure.

157 already!

Jonze didn't run away with it in the early games, with 8 players to my 4...I'm hopeful.

Sorry dude. My riches in week 6 are seriously embarrassing.

dudes, rather...as a whole.

With only Sunday and Monday nights' games left..

the fall fridays
24
When Marvcus Attacks
89

NinjaXPress
71
All-Time Jones
81

Resulting Paste
30
Shark Week
50

JESUS THESIS
50
HowDoISchottenheimer
87

Impeach Reggie Bush
63
Banjo's Bandwagon
88

idk my bff jill
83
Birdfingers
173

tanqueray lewises
79
Sex Boat All-Stars
61

Keystone Krunchers
43
L'il Travises
58

uh, 173? dude.

It was a freakish Sunday for Peterson, Jones-Drew, Welker, Stover and Barnett.

If I can get 11+ out of Gibril Wilson tonight, it means I would have won even without LT's crazy breakout day, which is great, because his bye is coming up next.

Week 6 scores final:

idk my bff jill
99
Birdfingers
173

Resulting Paste
39
Shark Week
62

NinjaXPress
119
All-Time Jones
86

JESUS THESIS
66
HowDoISchottenheimer
94

tanqueray lewises
110
Sex Boat All-Stars
66

the fall fridays
22
When Marvcus Attacks
124

Keystone Krunchers
43
L'il Travises
77

Impeach Reggie Bush
71
Banjo's Bandwagon
106

fukkin' a, calvin johnson.

you gotta be shittin' me.

He was on waivers!

39 points is an embarrassment. this week is going to be worse.

Maybe Boldin will be live this weekend? Of course, now he's got Rattay trying to throw balls his way.

o god

MikeJonze, wtf with the trading with Ally?

because we didn't just already have enough drama with that?

if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

and it's not like larry johnson has been all that much better than julius jones this season anyhow. seriously. at least until this past weekend.

I was gonna mention that, but it defeats the principle of being freakin' outraged.

Outrage is so one week ago, dudes.

Said the fox as he strolled out' the henhouse.

Oh, btw...my totally outrageous trade of last week? Netted me a total of 9 additional fantasy points over what I would've gotten with McNabb and Heap instead of Palmer and Gates. Neither player was really a major contributor to my fucking awesome 173 point freakout!

its not cheating if it only helps a little

We'll just continue to keep an eye on that, then.

PRAISE "BOB"!!!!

damn, i was just gonna propose a trade to ally to skeletonize my team and make her abandoned team a juggernaut (in hopes that an absentee owner would win the league) but my team fucking blows so much that it would wind up benefiting me so i canceled.

ha! You're team's not as bad as you think it is, for sure. Hasselbeck will have a good week picking the Rams apart, the Colts are back from a bye and Manning's just been itching to throw to Clark for nearly two weeks. Just dump Hackett and pick up a one week kicker and you'll be 4-3-0 this time next week.

Will anybody trade me a #3 RB or W/R to replace Sammy Morris? His sternum got busted.

yep. make me some offerses.

Night games remaining:

Sex Boat All-Stars 73
NinjaXPress 90

HowDoISchottenheimer 93
Birdfingers 127

idk my bff jill 99
Shark Week 74

Resulting Paste 112
All-Time Jones 75

JESUS THESIS 97
When Marvcus Attacks 86

the fall fridays 16
L'il Travises 58

Keystone Krunchers 18
Banjo's Bandwagon 65

tanqueray lewises 61
Impeach Reggie Bush 81

(The stat tracker window shows Impeach at 80 and Banjo at 63.)

think i got my first win!
and vs. an undefeated team! who had randy moss!!
party like its 1999 dudes!

Updated, post-SNF scoring:

Sex Boat All-Stars 73
NinjaXPress 90

HowDoISchottenheimer 98
Birdfingers 127

idk my bff jill 105
Shark Week 74

Resulting Paste 117
All-Time Jones 85

JESUS THESIS 127
When Marvcus Attacks 104

the fall fridays 16
L'il Travises 92

Keystone Krunchers 35
Banjo's Bandwagon 65

tanqueray lewises 70
Impeach Reggie Bush 81

bah!

when the hell do i get to play the krunchers and the fall fridays??? i feel like i'm the only one who hasn't tapped that ass.

Krunchers in week 14, Fall Fridays never. (16 teams, 14 week reg. season, shrug)

yeah, that's messed up.

I play them in weeks 11 and 12, or something like that. Yay for late-season gimmies!

of course

I love the league this year, people be's COMPETITIVE!

I picked a good week to catch a gimme.

chad p = hero

BUT WILL IT BE ENOUGH

WTF, the Sex Boats got six more points since the game ended last night! What got revised upwards?

11-point lead, ugh, my guts are gurgling a little.

brownie, you think i won't be able to catch you w/ manning and the colts D vs marcedes lewis??? think again!

There'll be screaming tonight somewhere.

no Jonze, I fully expect to lose

BUT STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED

you see there's a little thing called Jack Del Rio and HIS DEFENSIVE GENIUS that will put a stop to all this Mannings y because his defense look interstng

i have MEMES and MARCEDES on my side ftw btw

C'mon, MoJo! I wanna break 150!

Dammit Garrard, throw to your left!

Is there really only ONE Bob Sanders on the Colts defense? I'm pretty sure there's at least three of them running around out there.

Week 7 finals:

HowDoISchottenheimer
100
Birdfingers
144

idk my bff jill
107
Shark Week
74

Resulting Paste
117
All-Time Jones
117

NinjaXPress
98
Sex Boat All-Stars
79

JESUS THESIS
123
When Marvcus Attacks
104

the fall fridays
25
L'il Travises
95

Keystone Krunchers
36
Banjo's Bandwagon
68

tanqueray lewises
75
Impeach Reggie Bush
80

MoJo, hope ur knee is alright.

what, a TIE???

WHERE IS YOUR MANNING NOW

@brownie: he's four spots ahead of you in the standings.

I think I'm playing McNabb this week, because he's at least not throwing picks every game like Palmer is. grr.

(this strategy will bite me in the ass, I'm sure)

trade u Dominic Rhodes for Palmer.

Nah dude, I'm set on RBs. ha!

Deion Branch + New Orleans D?

Dang, my early game performers are UNDERperforming!

Brees, I knew you'd finally come through someday. Have another half like that first one, plz.

SF has a pretty good D, too.

I've got Colston in my other league...not this one, though...wah!

I still haven't figured out this voting thing, but I see that all y'all who have voted against me this week.

I was one of those votes! What can I say? It didn't look close.

With GB-DEN remaining:

tanqueray lewises 62
NinjaXPress 79

When Marvcus Attacks 86
Birdfingers 95

HowDoISchottenheimer 101
Shark Week 69

idk my bff jill 100
All-Time Jones 96

Resulting Paste 79
Sex Boat All-Stars 54

JESUS THESIS 67
L'il Travises 123

the fall fridays 38
Banjo's Bandwagon 83

Keystone Krunchers 21
Impeach Reggie Bush 15

I was one of those votes! What can I say? It didn't look close.

Nobody circles the wagons like the L'il Travises!

Well let's FITE LIKE DOGS in week 13 then!

I will circle it on the schedulol.

I'm looking to trade Jeff Garcia for a good WR, if such a deal is possible.

Keystone Krunchers 21
Impeach Reggie Bush 15

wow

the lewises got revised up to 69 points -- one TD pass to the wrong guy tonight and there goes my unbeaten record. NOOOOO! FUCK YOU MIKE VRABEL!!!

Keystone's a dead team, and pretty much all of hstencil's roster had a bye in week 8. xpost

FUCK YOU MIKE VRABEL!!!

that was pretty much why i picked him up. i knew he'd get at least one td on offense this year.

I HAT U DESHAWN WYNN! WHY U SUK?

(Fortunately, grabbing Ryan Grant may pay off in the future...)

AAAGHHH Marshall could have had his 3-yard TD reception and I'd still win 79-78, but OT gives Kevin a chance to beat me. AAAGGHHH

C'MON FAVER, HAVE SOME FUN OUT THERE!

AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHAKSDJF;ALSKJD;AF;SKJD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

whoa whoa whoa, it went to ot? fuck, gotta get back to espn post haste!

ok, i still won my other league. i went in down by 5 and green baby's defense/st gave me 9.

Birdfingers 113
When Marvcus Attacks 100

Shark Week 69
HowDoISchottenheimer 103

All-Time Jones 98
idk my bff jill 100

Sex Boat All-Stars 61
Resulting Paste 101

NinjaXPress 79
tanqueray lewises 72

L'il Travises 151
JESUS THESIS 67

Banjo's Bandwagon 81
the fall fridays 45

Impeach Reggie Bush 15
Keystone Krunchers 32

i forgot i got stattracker now for signing up for that cokerewards thing!

A big FUCK YEAH to a NO-JAX shootout. Brees with 2 TD/268 yds already, and he'll probably get the ball again before halftime.

DAVID HARRIS = 36 PTS, WTF?!? and still OT to come...

Wow do I have no answer for Adrian Peterson.

With Sun. night and Mon. night games still to play:

Birdfingers 135
L'il Travises 117

Shark Week 61
When Marvcus Attacks 75

All-Time Jones 135
HowDoISchottenheimer 114

Sex Boat All-Stars 102
idk my bff jill 71

NinjaXPress 109
Resulting Paste 95

Banjo's Bandwagon 63
JESUS THESIS 84

Impeach Reggie Bush 39
the fall fridays 32

Keystone Krunchers 15
tanqueray lewises 28

Nate Burleson I kiss u.

in my espn league adrian peterson gave me 50 points.

Wau! I only got 35 or something for him in the ILNFL league, but points are less generous for rbs and qbs in here.

yeah, in the espn league i'm in we only start one running back though. well one rb one rb/wr flex, then two wideouts, a qb, te, d/st, k.

That sounds a lot like the ILNFL league last year. No IDPs, and no points for kick/punt return yardage. Obv. I'm enjoying things better this year with more scoring categories.

In a league like this one that's sixteen teams deep, you need as many scoring categories as possible or else 4 or 5 teams would dominate every week while the rest completely stink.

So winslow goes berserk and I only get 6 points?!?!? where have all the points per reception gone,
long time passing

dudes,

so, after stat adjustments, i'm knotted up w/ shark week at 89-89. the only player left to play is najeh davenport and it is very likely he will get no points.

are there ties in this sumbitch?

yes, I tied All-time jones. They haven't been the same since. Davenport could get a TD though!

Points-per-reception must have been before my time.

I will be surprised if Davenport gets zero points.

so glad i picked up david harris right now. ever since jonathan vilma was lost for the season:
week 8: 17 tackles, 1 sack
week 9: 24 tackles
chaulk another one up for big blue!

santonio holmes, pls keep this ship goin' full-steam!

24 TACKLES?!!!

I got thumped.

Week 9 final scores..

Birdfingers 138
L'il Travises 125

Shark Week 89
When Marvcus Attacks 90

All-Time Jones 151
HowDoISchottenheimer 119

Sex Boat All-Stars 106
idk my bff jill 94

NinjaXPress 128
Resulting Paste 97

Banjo's Bandwagon 63
JESUS THESIS 119

Impeach Reggie Bush 72
the fall fridays 41

Keystone Krunchers 15
tanqueray lewises 33

I find it stupid silly that Jonze wouldn't have won without David Harris...2nd NFL game EVAR!

hey, who's to say i wouldn't have played anybody else who could have easily given me a mere 13 points? with that, i still would have won my matchup. and it was actually the 9th game harris has played in, just only the second one he has started. DH was a standout player at U of M. i saw what he did week 8 and knew he'd be a good pickup.

bring on marvcus!

Ha! That's why I drafted DeMeco Ryans in the 9th round, because I saw him own opposing offenses in games at Alabama. When I did it, everybody was all "har har, you picked an IDP!" He's probably given me the winning edge in games at least 3 times this year.

okay jonze but before santonio holmes went the eff off last night it was all on harris and you know it

god my team is sad

my whole team (other than roffles) is going on bye this week! i am starting such scrubs!!

roffles will be good for 8 or 9 TD's this weekend.

2pts per tackle = zomg run on middle linebackers!!1!1

-- rogermexico., Sunday, 19 August 2007 18:28 (2 months ago)

^^ JF, I was with you all the way on DRyans. ^^

Beyond that, I was bummed that you snapped him up before I did. And double-bummed that my own league-pwning LB chose yesterday to disappear... If he'd put in even an average day's work I could have overcome the Peterson factor after all.

Speaking of Peterson, I totally got him for a steal in the 3rd round. I'm sad there's no way in hell I'll get him next year unless I draw the 1st or 2nd pick. :(

Are there leagues where you keep your players from year to year? Seems that would most mimic a "franchise".

I think that's what a keeper league is? I dunno for sure, I'm still pretty much a novice.

makes sense. I only participate in the ILNFL league

Yup. Keeper or "dynasty" leagues. You get to hold onto some but not all of your roster.

Yay, let's do that next year! ::dodges rocks and garbage::

I like my chances against the Brady-less bnw, but I think the unbeaten streak is going to be in real trouble during weeks 11-13.

I take it you haven't noticed his replacement: joey harrington!! prepare for 9 and ONE.

I aint afraid of nobody named after a baby kangaroo! After this week I'll have more wins than the Pats themselves!

wait a second, this victory will be tainted like no other if Brady's not playing. I motion that this weekend be the ILNFL bye week.

motion seconded

i'm in another league that is a variation of your typical keeper league. it's what we call a "sleeper" league. basically, you can keep two players from your roster the following season, but you cannot protect anyone that was taken in the first three rounds of the previous year's draft. also, you can only protect a player twice. so after you've had him on your team for 3 seasons, he's back in the pool the next year.
it's a good structure, imo, b/c there's still elite talent in the draft pool each year and plus team owners are rewarded for finding good talent later in the draft.

Oh man...I kinda like that. Can Yahoo leagues be set up that way?

I kind of like that too, actually. What other provider do you use for fantasy, Jonze? We need a better setup and a smaller league next year.

that league that i'm talking about is managed through CBS Sportsline. it's not one of CBS' free games, though. it's the fantasy football commissioner game.
don't know if the same things could be run in one of their free leagues. i doubt it. the commissioner game is "fully customizable", though. we've got 12 teams and each of us paid like 12 bucks to cover the cost. i really think it's the best site to use for running a fantasy site.

- Your entire league will enjoy unlimited access to live scoring
- Customizable league rules - add/drop, trades, roster limits etc.
- Customizable league scoring system
- Customizable league website - post stories, change colors and more
- Free access on your mobile phone**
- Dynasty (keeper) league capability and individual defensive players
- Archived league information by year and even more!

http://football.sportsline.com/splash/football/spln/mgmt

I guess we'd have to start from scratch next year. It's moot for me, since my main doods (LT and Brees) were early-round picks.

Well, paying for a fully customizable league with that capability is only two dollars more than buying Stat Tracker in the stoopid Yahoo! league. Sounds do-able.

I vote we go even wilder with IDP scoring next year, because those dudes just dont get enough love in the real world.

i don't know about that. they already score more points than stud RBs on a routine basis.

but this is FANTASY!!!!!

The obvious solution would be an all-IDP league.

battle of the manning brothers and a fight for 2nd place in the ILNFL this week!

Dammit, I knew I shouldn't have left Ryan Grant on the bench...even if the Viking rush defense is tops. That dude is rad.

Sheeeit, Brees is going to drag me down to a loss.

and down goes adrian peterson...

I'm only down 61 points, I can make that up easy!

My dudes is stinking it up today.

Who has Shayne Graham? Lucky bastard.

THE 72 DOLPHINS ARE SAFE..SEND THE THANKYOUS TO IDK MY BFF JILL

damn, tofu's got three Colts tonight against my one Antonio Gates. IMA LOSE!

THE 72 DOLPHINS ARE SAFE..SEND THE THANKYOUS TO IDK MY BFF JILL

lol

My guys never got out of their hot tub, but bigger props to bnw's IDPs.

Jonze, I bet you'd like to break that laser rocket arm of Peyton's right now.

Total for Manning Bros. so far today: 5 pts.

Week 10 scores, with only MNF left to play

Sex Boat All-Stars 52
HowDoISchottenheimer 106

NinjaXPress 70
idk my bff jill 115

Resulting Paste 79
tanqueray lewises 33

Impeach Reggie Bush 64
JESUS THESIS 89

Keystone Krunchers 0
the fall fridays 0

Birdfingers 55
Banjo's Bandwagon 78

Shark Week 84
L'il Travises 75

All-Time Jones 95
When Marvcus Attacks 93

23 pts down...hmm...it's a long shot, but maybe Patrick Willis will get 10 or 11 tackles and an interception tonight!

wow. i can't believe indy's d brought me back to win it. that was totally unexpected.

i though fer sure i had lost.

idp's are kinda cheap, seems like you gain more benefit from them being on bad defenses.

i.e. the longer they let the other team's O roll down the field, the more tackles your dude gets.

I'm either going to score 50 or 150 pts today. I have no idea which.

That's pretty much the case every week, no? I should've been awesome last week, but all my dudes decided to take naps or something.

What the hell Donovan?!

I'm either going to score 50 or 150 pts today. I have no idea which.

With 29 points from Ray Lewis IN THE FIRST HALF, you're pretty likely to clear 50.

I thought I might regret dropping him, but it seemed like a good idea at the time...

:-))))))

I almost didn't pick him up, and didn't start him over Gibril Wilson until about 30 minutes before gametime.

:-(((((((

It's turning out to be a 50-point week plus one freak outlier performance from Lewis.

Terrell Owens...FOUR TDS?!!! You are killing me, mang.

he's given me 45 points in my other league, offsetting the 35 that chet taylor scored against me.

(un)Lucky me, hstencil has both Chester Taylor and T.O. in the ILNFL league.

oh snap

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/slaphead.jpg

(un)Lucky me, hstencil has both Chester Taylor and T.O. in the ILNFL league.

yeah, but he also started shaun alexander, damon huard and tony hunt, so i think that leaves you in pretty good shape.

Yeah, I'm ahead now, but I was down a bit before the Pats/Bills game began.

four points that prove the people in this league don't give a shit anymore:

1. two teams, the keystone krunchers and the fall fridays, packed it in prior to week 1 either b/c they were unhappy w/ the way the computer drafted for them or b/c it wasn't important enough to them.

2. although it didn't matter b/c they were only facing the fall fridays, tanqueray lewises started kelly holcomb, deangelo williams, bobby wade and f'ing ronnie brown, all while leaving matt hasselbeck, dj hackett, and willis mcgahee on his bench.

3. the aforementioned snooze move by hstencil, starting alexander and huard, neither of which were expected to play this week. at the least, if he had started derrick mason and put vince young in at QB instead of leaving a bench guy in his lineup, it could have made a difference between a win and a loss.

4. sex boat all-stars lineup included marshawn lynch (out) and brian griese (out). while he didn't have another RB on his roster to supplant lynch this week, he still could have played kurt warner instead of griese.