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The thread where we wait and bet about who can knock Indy off their winning streak now that N'England is out of the running.

It seems like betting on Houston in the week ten game would be worth it just for the odds you could get.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

Houston will win. It will be karmic payback for the game when the 1-15 Colts beat the 15-1 Packers (who of course won the Super Bowl.)

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

really can't wait for the Cinci game though...

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I'm thinking Pittsburgh; if anybody's gonna do it.
I mean, any given Sunday and all that; but there's your best bet.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

I'd also put my money on the Steelers, if I had to pick one, Forks. If the Colts can take them out, they really have a shot at running the table.

― Mingus Dew (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

J-ville always plays the Colts tight and the first one this year was slugfest. I think that will be a tough game for Indy.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahahahaha undefeated, people. Let's just admit this.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I just want everyone to visualize the happy dance I did in front of my television last night. Embrace it in the depths of your hearts.

― Dan (NE Can Bite Me, WOOT) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

my gut tells me jax beats them and then they drop another game late in the season against a team with more to play for than them (which by this point for the colts will be nothing) ie. seattle so i'm guessing they finish 14-2, homefield with ease.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Well the thing is about the playing for nothing, I think it's gotten to the point where it's beyond that for the Colts. It's kind of the "FUCK YOU" instinct, right? To bust your ass to get that undefeated and kinda tell people to shove it with all the "Colts die late in the season" stuff.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

o i think they'll show up, i'm just thinking they'll lose one tough one - cincy, pittsburgh, or jax - and then after they lose that and with no chance of an undefeated season and homefield wrapped up they'll rest starters, etc. and seattle, which might have ALOT to play for then, might get the win. if indy's still undefeated, yes, i do think they will handle the seahawks.

simmons column had some nice bitterness on last night - The torch, for all intents and purposes, had been passed. After four arduous years, various rule changes to help their passing game, and a cream-puff schedule highlighted by a fortuitous bye before last night's game, the Colts (and the NFL) finally got their wish. There was a new alpha dog in the AFC. - haha, nice touch just saying 'the AFC' instead of 'the NFL' there.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's kind of definition douchebaggery to me. Like wtf, is there some NFL conspiracy to trump the Pats and "pass the torch"? Do these people have any idea how far in advance schedules are sketched out, anyway? Whatever. I don't even like the Colts!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I wish Indy well....I loved Tony D. when he was here at the Vikes and he seems like an aces dude....plus, Chucky essentially took his team to superbowl paydirt, so it'd be nice to see Dunge get a ring.....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

indy's schedule being 'easy' (and it's not really that creampuffy really, it's just backloaded) is pure luck - nfl schedules have a pretty standard formula - you play your division rivals twice home-and-home, you play the other division winners (home if they had a better record, away if they had a worse record), and you play whatever afc division and nfc division yr division has rotated to this year. simmon's complaining about rule changes benefiting the colts is kinda funny since 1) the colts (as he notes) aren't even playing that 'espy winning' style of offense this year (i don't get why this is so 'smart' as i've read over and over this year, beyond not having edge fantasy owners pissed at you this year cuz yr team doesn't run in the redzone - what's wrong with 'score as many points as you can + don't let the other team score' or why/how does one preclude the other?)(is it a 'they let the defense rest' thing? has the colts time of possesion jumped this year?) and 2) nfl rule changes pretty much ALWAYS are designed for 'more offense', the niners dynasty was built on taking advantage of these rule changes, rule changes are a fact of life in football and smart teams adjust like they adjust to everything else (the pats have been very very good at adjusting so he should know this). the column (which i did enjoy, helluva lot more than seeing a klosterman byline pop up on espn and thinking 'watch out skip bayless - you've got competition') read a bit yanks fan at parts esp the closing line.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

um 'other division winners' if you won yr division obv

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Simmons is an entertaining writer, but he is a total Boston homer.

From what I am seeing across the net, NE fans and many sportswriters are taking the Colts winning last night pretty sour. Much more so than I have seen any one gloating of Indy finally beating the Pats. Shit, everyone knows it doesn't matter squat until they win a Superbowl. I've seen people posting on a bullentin board that quick snap trick is borderline "cheating". They so crazy and should be haunted by memories of Tony Eason or something.

The big thing with the Colts the past season and a half is Edge is back to full health and has been running like he did before he got hurt. The Colts also have some larger guys playing guard starting last year and they are much better at power running. Up until the end of last year, they had a bunch of trouble running up the middle and in short yardage. This is now not a problem.

Manning has stated in interviews that early this year every team was playing the bomb and basically saying to beat them with the run, so he was often times audibling into running plays out of pass calls.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

http://www.absoluteanime.com/speed_racer/_speed.jpg
http://www.absoluteanime.com/speed_racer/_rex.jpg
LITTLE DID ELI MANNING KNOW THAT MANNING X WAS ACTUALLY HIS LONG-LOST OLDER BROTHER, PEYTON MANNING!!

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 12 November 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

Alright, so Cincinatti? I don't think so, but stranger things have happened.
What's the consensus?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

"Manning X" isn't really the kind of mysterious alias that would prevent people from figuring out that you, indeed, are Peyton Manning.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

oh well. All I gotta say is SNAP.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

tested .. and PASSED

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 21 November 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Is Roethlisberger back next week?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Yes he is. THAT'S your test.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

"The Super Bowl...THAT'S your test"

Asinine.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Hardly. Y'beat a healthy Pittsburgh and Cincy back2back, then I have a hard time believing you can't beat anyone.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I think a true test would be to have them play a team that was on fire.

― Dan (Or Maybe Sabretoothed Tigers) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

The Vikings... on Ice!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

If the Indianapolis Colts can defeat a team cobbled together of Ben Roethlisberger's dog, Charo, Stephen Colbert, Mini-Ditka, Puffy AmiYumi, Bob Saget, Jared Leto, Nolan Ryan, Elvira Mistress of the Dark, and that mule kicker the Colts once had when they did that one film that had Don Knotts and Johnny Unitas, then, and only then, will they be worthy of a championship.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

We should probably throw Knotts and Unitas on the team for good measure, don't wanna make it too easy on those pansy asses.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

My, we're cranky.
But don't forget this guy:
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/z/zeus/03.jpg

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

not cranky, just sick of hearing the same excuses every single week. Always gotta be something. I wish y'all were around back when Dallas was tearing it up, cos boy did I hate Dallas.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Wait, Charo is Ben Roethlisberger's dog????

― Dan (COOCHIE COOCHIE) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

That is a certain feat of sentence parsing! You're on the team!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Woo hoo! I will be Jared Leto's replacement after an unfortunate tackle knocks his head off.

― Dan (You Know It Will Happen) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

It's the NFL. Manning won't be considered "worthy" and be thought of as one of the greats until he wins the Superbowl. This isn't difficult to understand.

Beating a 7-2 team that hasn't made the playoffs in a million years isn't the Superbowl.

NFL lore completely revolves around winning the Superbowl. The excuses will end when the Colts win it all. Until then, I don't mind hearing the same loaded praise every week.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

fuck it i'm calling it: colts make the playoffs this year. i guarantee it.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

It's still mathematically possible they won't!
They still have the potential to tie with Oakland
MATHEMATICS IS KEY

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Did you guys only start watching the NFL this year or something?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

football's not big in the south. this is hockey country.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

I just don't understand all the whining about people being skeptical of the Colts 10-0 record considering this is the league that spent years branding Elway and Young as losers who couldn't win the big game (until they finally did, of course).

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

who are you talking about? what are you talking about? does this involve pythagoras again? you're not going to try to spin us on 'actually the cleveland browns are undefeated' are you?

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

No, but you can "actually" blow me.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

UNNECESSARY ROUGHNESS

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Seriously though, the prevailing opinion among 95% of NFL pundits is that a quarterback isn't truly great until he wins the Superbowl. How can there be any debate about this? We don't have to like it, but that's the NFL.

The similarities between mid-90's Steve Young and present-day Peyton Manning are striking. They led an offensive juggernaut while putting up incredible passing numbers, won a handful of playoff games but couldn't make it to the SB. Kept getting stoned in the playoffs by their nemesis. Lots of doubt over whether or not they would ever win a championship.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know what the hell this Canadian is flapping his gums about?? Hello, Steve Young won the Super Bowl in his THIRD season as a starter (um, no I am not counting the USFL)(Michigan Panthers represent!) Where in the hell are you getting this "YOung is a loser who couldn't win the big one" crap?? you keep saying that and I keep wondering who your oxycontin dealer is. Nobody ever ever ever said that about Young. And nobody, I mean NOBODY, says that guys like Marino and Kelly "weren't truly great".

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm not nearly as serious about football as most of the other posters here, Barry, and it's blatantly obvious to me that you're talking so deeply out of your ass that this entire thread is starting to smell like Preperation H.

― Dan (A Poor Effort, I Know) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Please tell me more about this alternate-universe early-90's NFL where nobody cared whether Jim Kelly or John Elway was ever going to win a Superbowl.

When you're done, tell me more about the 2005 NFL season where nobody cares whether or not Peyton Manning ever reaches or wins a Superbowl.

Nobody ever ever ever said that about Young.

There was loads of "can Young finally beat the Cowboys and reach the Superbowl?" talk at the time ... I am honestly shocked that I'm the only person here who remember it this way. Whatever though, if I'm outvoted then I'm outvoted.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

Why the hell do folks go OH NOES MATH! like it's a bad thing? I'd go back and quote what Barry actually said on The Other Board that you chuckleheads BLOUNT are gleefully misrepresenting, but that's only going to inspire more pith, and that's going to be happening regardless of what I say.

Some facts:

1) Prevalent talking head thought back in the day before Young won The Big Game (even if it was only 2 years between getting a chance to start and winning) was all about him wilting in the shadow of Joe Montana and not having the stuff to beat the Cowboys and all this other "you suck until you win" malarkey. I WAS THERE.

2) Prevalent talking head thought back in the day before Elway won The Big Game was that he was fantastic, but just couldn't take it to the Next Level (because, believe it or not, he was responsible for the success of the running game, too). I WAS THERE.

3) Prevalent talking head thought re: Jim Kelly (& the Bills in toto) circa the quadfecta of shame unjustly involves the international sign of choking, because being first loser in the championship game is only good for card shows and pity parties. I WAS THERE.

4) If MIR's got a woody against CUT THAT MEAT, that's his cross to bear, but him saying that NFL jagbags never fail to downplay the quality of players that don't win the Big One isn't exactly some arcane type of revelation.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, think of Dan Marino, they totally think he sucks and should go to hell.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Steve Young played in the shadow of Joe Montana. The Super Bowl "can he? Can he? Huh? Huh?" had more to do with "Can he get out of the shadow of Joe Montana in SF?" than it had to do with "Steve Young is crap til he wins the big game." I WAS THERE TOO OMG WTF.

Jim Kelly and John Elway are unusual examples because THEY PLAYED IN SO MANY FUCKING SUPER BOWLS WITHOUT WINNING. I was THERE, MAN.

It's not like people think Phil Simms or Jeff Hostetler are greats because they won Super Bowls. And it's not like if you bring up Fran Tarkenton, the first thing outta people's mouths is all like, WHAT A LOSER.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I just wanted to make a Preperation H joke.

― Dan (Is That So Wrong?) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm not saying that winning Super Bowls hurts your image by any means but you people are deluding yourself if you think that the Colts should have to go undefeated and win the Super Bowl in order to be deserving of respect.

xpost your joke was funny AND OTM.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

It's not like people think Phil Simms or Jeff Hostetler are greats because they won Super Bowls.

That's not what I was saying! Where did I say that any QB who won the SB was some sort of legend?

Manning and McNabb are great no matter what happens for the rest of their careers. But how many words have been spilled over the importance of them reaching Superbowls and winning them?

If the Colts don't reach the Superbowl this year, Manning will be dragged over the coals just like McNabb was every year until he finally got his team there. Where does anybody get "Manning sucks" from this *obviously true* assessment?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Not to mention that you can respect the Colts for having a great season and are still allowed to criticize them if they don't make it to the SB.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck does Herm Edwards know about winning games???!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

That's not what I was saying! Where did I say that any QB who won the SB was some sort of legend?

You didn't, but OTOH I wasn't just replying to you either. See Raposa's post!

I know that great qb's that do not make/win the Super Bowl are more subject to scrutiny than ones that do, my point is that this is a pretty ridiculous national-level of "Well actually, seriously, they aren't all that good, wait til next week when I'm sure they'll fuck up huge" that really WASN'T the kind of treatment, say, McNabb was getting. I'm debating the rather unreasonable level of expectations here, and the fact that seemingly no matter who the Colts beat, there is always that next day, "Well, that wasn't really the test if they are good. Next week, that'll show." Every week!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I partly agree with you, but I perceive it more like "OK, they're 10-0 and will obviously be the #1 seed. So much for the drama there, now let's see them in the playoffs already."

Runaway, dominant division champ = boring season for some people (which obv. isn't the Colts fault).

On a different note, it's looking like we might get New England (4) at Indianapolis (1) in the second week of the playoffs!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I can see why that would be considered boring, yeah, though I kind of think the idea of someone going completely undefeated is thrilling, not dull.

New England at Indy though seems so dull to me, OTOH. I kind of think at that point in the season Indy will just run away with that game. New England isn't as much of a top dog anymore as people keep hoping they are, IMO. I'm holding out for the Indy/Denver AFC championship game as the exciting one.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

And it's not like if you bring up Fran Tarkenton, the first thing outta people's mouths is all like, WHAT A LOSER.

That's Incredible's pretty hard to live down, tho.

Also, I was kinda lying - I wasn't THERE there; I was up in my room, doing my math homework. I WAS A NERD.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Denver has good reason to want to beat the Colts, since Indy has completely pounded them the last two years in the playoffs.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Indy will completely pound them again.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Poor Snake.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

SUPER MANNING BROS XL

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

OK I was looking for a picture of Plummer looking sketchy with his unwashedness of late and ambitious facial hair, but found this. WTF?

http://www.longordo.com/images/ABNSports/plummertillman.jpg

This is the page it's attached to. WTF?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

"Future Tattoos For Jeremey Shockey"

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

What the hell is wrong with people?

― Dan (Mommy I'm Scared) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

What, you have a problem with people who apparently obsessively paint loving potraits of Doug Flutie from 1981?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

This is totally the guy version of that woman who does the creepy Stevie Nicks paintings.

― Dan (Picture Of Stevie WITH Pat And Jake) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

I think this is possibly the first time that Pat Tillman, Doug Flutie and Stevie Nicks have all been mentioned in one conversation, in short sequence. I'm pretty proud of that, what we just did here.

I think we need to have a rolling "funny pictures of NFL stars" thread. Because I just found this:
http://www.kongart.com/karenand.html

Which is the personal photo collection of the woman who makes art like this:

http://www.kongart.com/images/sa_other_marino01.jpg

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

If you notice, Karen is getting a little unprofessionally cuddley with Peyton. Who looks like he's going to throw up or something.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Contrast with the picture of Karen and Bill Parcells! She is totally thinking "Let go of me, grandpa. Let go NOW."

― Dan (The Art Is A Penance) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Notice she is wearing the exact same dress in the photos with Parcells, Taylor and Simms. Did she like sneak into the class of '86 Giants reunion or something? What the hell is that about?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Also notice how her hair is relatively put together in the Parcells photo but in windblown post-coital disarray in the Taylor and Simms photos!

― Dan (Peyton, See What Thine Rejection Hath Wrought???) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Is it just me, or does she look a lot like Geri Halliwell?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.absolutebrady.com/Images/InterviewLogo2.jpg

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

OK you're going to have to scroll through apparently the most COMPREHENSIVE SOURCE OF PEYTON MANNING INFORMATION IN THE ENTIRE WORLD (I mean we're talking 5 minutes of scrolling) but explain the picture at the bottom of this link to me:

http://www.angelfire.com/ia3/coltspeyton/profile.htm

(sorry it's AngelFire so it won't show up here :( )

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha I had no idea Tom Brady had been in a Tommy Hilfiger ad!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

http://www.scott-o-rama.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/eli_manning.jpg

Uhhhh. WTF?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

http://posiescollectibles.com/Manningbros.jpg

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

eli looks like an extra in a larry clark flick in that one pic

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

hahaha omg the dolls.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I am shockingly close to having the physique of a professional quarterback! He can keep the blatantly fake tan, though.

― Dan (Eli "I Ate The Pies" Manning) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

explain the picture at the bottom of this link to me

That picture is awesome ... I had no idea that the Mannings were extras in "Seabiscuit" ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/players/08/16/first.person0822/t1_roethlisberger.jpg

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha "WARNING: Choking Hazard"

― Dan (Just Ask The Vikings!) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

ok, that td looked real easy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

same for the second one. damn steelers.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

jeez ... I blinked and I missed it! I was all like "ok, player introductions, whatever..."

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

thank you, polamalou, you big samoan warrior.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

THANK YOU, HINES WARD. for some reason i want the steelers to win this game, even tho i like indy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever. They'll get the Jags without Leftwich. Maybe if they beat the Bolts and the Shawks...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm impressed now.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

Other than the Steelers TD setup by Manning's interception, the Colts defense did not let Pittsburgh get anything last night.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I loved all the unnecessary fighting going on, what were they all so het up about? It was great!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

God that first play was beautiful...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Man. the Colts are just GOOD. It's like, they can steamroll a really good opponent and not even look that IMPRESSIVE! it's just like ho-hum.. oh yeah, we should win this game. let's do that...good idea, Tony...thanks Peyton, why don't you go do that. No prob. See you after the game.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

fuck it i'm calling it: colts make the playoffs this year. i guarantee it.

-- j blount (jamesbloun...), November 21st, 2005. (papa la bas) - this is starting to look pret-ty smart.

― the smartest (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

Who's a sassy bitch?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

it was so weird last night when the Colts actually did something *wrong* ... Edge missed that block, and Peyton got sacked. And Madden even called out Edge for it! I was all like, "woah, a Colt did something wrong!"

I don't see them losing a game. I hope Tony doesn't really rest the starters.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

If they're 15-0 by the last game and Seattle needs a win for home field throughout the playoffs, I think you have to assume that Indianapolis pulls the stars. You'd be playing for nothing against a dangerous team that would love to take out some of the greater future threats and Dungy has to wonder what his second-stringers will do under pressure.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think it depends a helluva lot more whether or not Denver keeps up with Indy than it does with the supposed dangerousness of Seattle.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

If they've clinched the division and home field, you'd be nuts to not bench yr starters late in the season...all it takes is one bad hit to peyton, james, etc....

...chasing the Great White Dolphins Whale is a fool's errand. Just get healthy and rested for the playoffs and concentrate on the superbowl....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Seattle is Game #15!

12/4: TENNESSEE TITANS
12/11: @ Jacksonville Jaguars
12/18: SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
12/24: @ Seattle Seahawks
1/1: ARIZONA CARDINALS

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think it depends a helluva lot more whether or not Denver keeps up with Indy than it does with the supposed dangerousness of Seattle.

...or chasing the Dolphins for that matter.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, I thought Seattle was the last game of the season for them.
But yeah, they could legitimately have home field sewn up by game 15, right?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

A more interesting question to me is if Indy's second team can beat Arizona.
Who the hell is their backup quarterback anyway?
Can you imagine Peyton, say, breaking his arm in game 16? Dungy might have to move to China.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jim Sorgi was pretty good at Wisconsin. He played a couple of times last year in mop up duty after Manning had thrown 5 TD's and they were up 30 points or so.

A couple of years ago their backup was MARK RYPIEN, who had come out of retirement, but he never got into a game.

― earlnash, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

They could legitimately have home field sewn up by when they played Denver, but Denver would have to have lost another game, because theoretically-though-obviously-not-in-reality Indy's first string could lose to both Denver and AZ, which would put them in a tie with Denver record wise, and Denver the winner in their one-game series...etc etc. So as long as Denver keeps winning, game 15 is a must-win if you want home field.

Peyton Manning is like super durable btw, you have a bigger worry about the Edge or someone else getting injured than Robo ~~Rivera~~Manning.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Though yeah, if they beat Denver in no way is AZ a must-win situation, I mean Indy can stay home and drink some beers on Sunday if they felt like it and it wouldn't matter to anyone but glory hunters, though it's completely disrespectful, in my view, for teams to fucking bench their "stars" against any other professional team. What the hell is that? Who does that?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

In hockey you're not allowed to! the NHL can actually fine teams for benching their stars in late season games. of course, a lot of players tend to "mysteriously" come down with the flu and other ailments at that time...

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

The White Sox benched 7 starters against the Indians in the third to last game of the season. They still won.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

I just think it is so disrespectful, like "Haha you're pretty crap, we dn't have to bother with playing you." That's really very unsportsmanlike and quite frankly I would get really agitated if I knew my team was purposefully doing that. I wouldn't respect a coach who does something like that.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

I was of two minds RE: the White Sox. I paid $25 to see the best team in baseball play and they didn't show. On the otherhand the Indians had to win.

I think the disappointment of not seeing the whole Sox team won out.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's not so much "you're pretty crap" as it is that your team has achieved what it needed to do and is resting, recuperating and protecting its big play makers. Just good coaching, presuming the team doesn't have some sort of chip on their shoulders when it comes to some sort of "best of all time" nomenclature, which this team pretty clearly doesn't.

In any case, I still think that they will lose at least ONE game over the course of the season prior to last days, so they may well have something on the line by the time they get to Arizona. Just too hard to go undefeated in this man's NFL.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

it's completely disrespectful, in my view, for teams to fucking bench their "stars" against any other professional team. What the hell is that? Who does that?

http://images.nfl.com/photos/img6438445.jpg

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

Has Peyton Manning ever missed a start since joining the Colts?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 1 December 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

That worked out really well for the Bills, roger.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

Started 16 games for seventh consecutive season in 2004

Apparently, since joining the league in 98, Peyton's played 123 consecutive games and averaged a bit less than two touchdowns a game. Ouch.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 December 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

O VER RA TED (clap clap clap-clap-clap)

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Bills 51, Raiders 3

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

After that, my memory gets a little fuzzy...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

Peyton Manning also played most of a season with a broken jaw in 2001.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 1 December 2005 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cowboys 78,436
Bills 3

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Also David please feel free to explain who/what you were referring to at any time now.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Cowboys 78,436
Bills 3

You can add Skins 734, Bills 12 to that. Though by the time they played the 'Boys they were wild-carding it, so the starters were just plain wore out by the second half.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm on yr side in terms of the 90s Bills in general dude, but seriously you gotta admit worst argument ever for resting your starters to prepare for playoffs. Maybe they should've rested their kicker! Ha ha ha! Etc.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't even arguing for resting starters! Just answering the "who does that?" question...

Though I would play starters sparingly after the first quarter. It's all "haha NO QUARTER this is PRO FOOTBALL bitches!!!" until someone loses an ACL.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

You can lose an ACL in the first quarter though.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

peyton + k3nny ch3sn3y. it's tru!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

You can lose an ACL in the first quarter though.

This is the risk you take to keep 'em "sharp."

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yancey!!!!

So you're the one that keeps on e-mailing D3adsp!n!

Ally, re: Also David please feel free to explain who/what you were referring to at any time now. - I was just goofing on the "Colts = overrated" thing & the note about PM averaging "only" 2 TDs per game during his 120+ consecutive game streak.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

I figured, I just wanted to give you some shit!

So what is this rumor I've been told about that was going around today, that the Colts are piping in extra "crowd noise" in the dome?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW: the "ouch" was that Peyton is on average responsible for, say, 10 points per game in every game he's played. Hardly seems fair.

Also please note: I'm roughly Peyton's age and watched him through UT when I was living in Tennessee; at this point he feels like family.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

the Colts are piping in extra "crowd noise" in the dome?

Hell, that's what the rest of the SEC says about Neyland Stadium. Wonder where Peyton got the idea?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

Well apparently the rumor isn't suiting Tony "Huckleberry Hound" Dungy. He's pissed off about it. Some kind of heresay that just turned into a 30 minute ESPN expose or something to that effect. Total nonsense and unnecessary for the Colts to do this, why not go diss on Seattle and their horrifying piped in white noise between plays?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Seems like some version of this accusation gets thrown around every year ... I think the Vikings were often accused of piping in noise a few years back

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Vikes are still doing it. How else can you explain beating the Cleveland Browns?

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

By turning the heating vents off whenever the Vikes were kicking a field goal?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Do the Vikings have no shame? YES THEY DO NOT HAVEN'T NO SHAME.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

SOUR GRAPES!!!

If yr team can't take some over-amped "Welcome to the Jungle" go home to mommy!!!!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

They have to come up with a story to talk about the Colts, so why not it being the crowd noise. They don't have a T.O. or some other media crazed player that does antics. Dungy is about as low key and mannered as any coach in any sport, the guy is mellow and not a shouter or a talker like a Parcells or others. Their top superstar QB seems like a normal guy dork that should be working in the accounting department. The star WR just DOESN'T TALK to the media. The star RB with the grill of gold is just a southern good ole' boy. The defense is small and not particularly well known other than by Colt fans and people who really follow football. The only Colt that has made a big deal about talking smack is the kicker Vanderjagt.

The Colts are boring that way, they just do their job.

― earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's interesting how you never hear anything from Edge these days though. seems like he used to be a bit more of a talker back when he broke in ... before his injury years

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

lol.

― IN UR BASE KILLING ALL UR DUDES (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 18 December 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sad now.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 December 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

See, it's cause they rested their starters.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

aw man...

*stuffs hands in pockets, kicks pebble*

now it's just a football season.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 19 December 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda happy cos it just means Indy will be really pissy against Denver and have 10x better chance of trashing those hippies.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

"Marty Schottenheimer is a great friend of mine," Shula said, "and has become an even better friend now."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264695

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe they can go BF4Eva and join John Elway in Hawaii and drink with straws out of the ridiculous cup!!!!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

The '72 Dolphins only played two teams with a winning record during the regular season. THEY HAVE NOT YET PASSED THE TEST

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

SNAP!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

is anyone else really really really hoping the pats beat the colts in the playoffs this year? for laffs?

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Brady, probably.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think the colts have the phear in them once again

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

poor tony dungy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Any given Sunday, people! WTF, did you naysayers learn nothing from Academy Award winners Al Pacino & Jamie Foxx?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

wow that Tony Dungy story is sad

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah it is.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god :(

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

now i feel bad for saying he looked like he had AIDS :'(

― IN UR BASE KILLING ALL UR DUDES (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 22 December 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

is anyone else really really really hoping the pats beat the colts in the playoffs this year? for laffs?

THIS WILL HAPPEN.

But for now, I just feel horrible for Dungy :(

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

The Colts are not sending seven starters on defense and two on offense to Seattle including Marvin Harrison, Bob Sanders and Cato June who all were named as Allpros this week. I've got a bad feeling Indy is going to get rolled.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 24 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

And that feeling is accurate.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 December 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

It really was not as bad as I expected. The Colts 2nd string D had a few nice stops in the second half and other than the fumble Sorgi played well.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 25 December 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

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