So, who do the Colts play this week d00ds? - ILNFL Week 9 Thread

Tampa Bay
Carolina
BUFFALOLZ
Detroit
Green Bay
New Orleans
San Diego
Atlanta
Redskins
Houston
Colts (I know, but I don't care; ilu Peyton!)
Browns (omg brownie, I forgot to mention, they're over .500!!! amazing!!!)
Cowboys
Steelers

Oh jesus, the calendars not up at the506 yet, but CBS is going to give LA HOU@OAK, I just know it. Fuxx0rs.

proper title is: GOOD VS. EVIL
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Tampa Bay (i believe now)
Titans (playoff bound in spite of themselves)
Bengals (and they better fuckin' win or the season is OVAH)
Lions (ten wins ahoy!)
Packers (I think, i mean who the hell knows what's going on with the chiefs anyway)
Jaguars (wish it weren't so, but the saints are just not gonna be in postseason)
Chargers (San Diego will, though)
The loser in the niners/falcons is the viewing audience.
Redskins (U ain't seen bouncin' back)
Raiders (still believe)
Colts (that halo ain't fer show)
Browns (statement game?)
Cowboys (as good as teh stillers)
Steelers (as good as teh cowboys)

1:00PM ET:
Arizona Cardinals at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Carolina Panthers at Tennessee Titans
Cincinnati Bengals at Buffalo Bills
Denver Broncos at Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers at Kansas City Chiefs
Jacksonville Jaguars at New Orleans Saints
San Diego Chargers at Minnesota Vikings
San Francisco 49ers at Atlanta Falcons
Washington Redskins at New York Jets

4:00PM ET:
Houston Texans at Oakland Raiders
New England Patriots at Indianapolis Colts
Seattle Seahawks at Cleveland Browns

8:15PM ET:
Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles

Monday, November 5, 8:30PM ET
Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers

wk 9 is actually a good slate of games.
wk 8 was so so bad guys.

the real story of week 8
http://usmagazine.com/brit_goes_clubbing_with_tony_romo

if the league doesn't make him pee in a cup stat then something's wrong.

good v evil
fundie nutjob homophobia v video sign stealing
compulsive hucksterism v epic man whoring
disrespecting the game through excessive touchdowns v disrespecting the game through excessive touchdowns

SO SO AMPED !!!!!

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

compulsive hucksterism v epic man whoring

ahahahaha awesome so true! man, I'm a sucker for a compulsive huckster.

I dig your enthusiasm, bloobhloj.

im really scared tho - i know its a crazy dream but i really have my heart set on pats perfect season

far far right vs. "wrong" (as defined by greg easterbrook)

yeah greg easterbrook is kind of a crazy, huh?

i seriously can not wait to for tmqb this week. i can picture easterbrook furiously pounding away at his keyboard worked up in such a lather that spittle is flying from his mouth.

xpost- he's got a hard on to see belichick lose.

im really scared tho - i know its a crazy dream but i really have my heart set on pats perfect season

If there's one team that I can't stand more, it's that smug 1972 Miami team. Bring it on, Brady.

Arizona Cardinals at Tampa Bay Buccaneers - CARDS
Carolina Panthers at Tennessee Titans - TITANS
Cincinnati Bengals at Buffalo Bills - BENGALS
Denver Broncos at Detroit Lions - LIONS
Green Bay Packers at Kansas City Chiefs - PACKAS
Jacksonville Jaguars at New Orleans Saints - SAINTS
San Diego Chargers at Minnesota Vikings - CHARGERS
San Francisco 49ers at Atlanta Falcons - FALCONS
Washington Redskins at New York Jets - REDSKINS

Houston Texans at Oakland Raiders - TEXANS
New England Patriots at Indianapolis Colts - PATS
Seattle Seahawks at Cleveland Browns - BROWNS

Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles - IGGLES

Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers - STEELERS

everyone picking the Browns this week but I'm worried. Their defense is scary bad, especially against the run. Ugh. Thankfully clevo can pass block again for the first time in 20 years. Last weeks amazing Browns stat= 14 penalties for like 120 yards and they constantly dug themselves out of it. I haven't seen them do that since Kosar.

there's another 4pm game up against them but I can't seem to remember who it is. oh yeah, Texans/Raiders

Their defense is scary bad, especially against the run. Ugh.

That's okay. Alexander's been phoning it in this year.

Buccaneers over Cards
Titans over Panthers
Bills over Bengals
Lions over Broncos
Packers over Chiefs
Jags over Saints
Chargers over Vikings
Falcons over 49ers
Redskins over Jets
Texans over Raiders
Patriots over Colts
Browns over Seahawks (I'll be there!!!)
Cowboys over Eagles
Steelers over Ravens

i've seen seattle twice this year and the browns twice, browns look at least as good to me. plus they're at home. seattle is really very mediocre.

browns are probably my second favorite team this year because i love romeo and willie mcginnest is one of my all time favorite players. he's up there with ben coates and lawyer milloy.

easterbrook heaps praise on indy for pulling manning in the fourth, waggles his finger at the pats for not doing the same. conveniently not mentioning that the patriots not only went to their second string qb but after the redskins couldn't stop him from scoring, went to their 3rd string quarterback.

also, "Another scouts' point: Belichick game plans, going back to the Giants' Super Bowl wins when he was defensive coordinator, often involve jamming receivers at the line and hitting them on crossing routes, designed to disrupt the timing of passing offenses. Will he try this against the Colts'? And why does no one throw this tactic back at Belichick by jamming his receivers?"

uhm, just a guess here but maybe it has something to do with moss and stallworth being bigger/stronger/faster than most dbs? jamming at the line doesn't work if the defensive back is the one who winds up on his ass. and if you try to jam a smaller receiver like welker he's agile and explosive enough to get around it. this is something that any high school player would know, this guy should be ashamed at cashing his paycheck as espn should be at cutting him one.

hmmm I've had some wine and now I'm thinking. if DA continues to have a good year at QB and with BQ in the wings and with the Browns not having a first round pick maybe the time's right for a trade ala Brees/Rivers in SD.

Anderson to the Jets for Pennington and their high 2nd round pick? Browns need a D-line.

Do nothing and get a free agent with the money not spent on a 1st rounder?

Anderson is a restricted free agent at the end of the year.

Suddenly football is fun again y because brwns look interestng

SF @ ATL - SF
CIN @ BUF - BUF
DEN @ DET - DET
GB @ KC - KC
SD @ MIN - SD
JAC @ NO - JAC
CAR @ TEN - TEN
ARI @ TB - TB
WAS @ NYJ - WAS
SEA @ CLE - CLE
NE @ IND - NE
HOU @ OAK - OAK
DAL @ PHI - PHI (not likely, but fingers crossed)
BAL @ PIT - PIT

Suddenly football is fun again y because brwns look interestng

I agree. Especially since I picked up Braylon Edwards in like the 10th round and traded Brandon Marshall for Kellan Winslow.

braylon edwards was a free agent savior for me. 9 tds now?

derek anderson was a week 3 pick up saving me from a season of jason campbell as my qb. i wouldn't be in 2nd place without him. and if campbell could have given me 2 points instead of one on anderson's bye week a couple weeks back i'd be tied for first instead of in second.

Tampa - Other than when the Colts beat em down, the Bucs are playing every game tight and Arizona is still using a QB off the street.
Denver - I keep picking against the Lions and maybe next week I will learn.
Tennesee - These teams are about the same, so it could go either way.
Green Bay - KC is at home, but I think the Packers will win another fugly game.
SD - Minnesota is an example of a good club going nowhere because their QBs are terrible.
J-ville - I want to pick NO, but even though they are playing better, I just cannot pick the Saints.
Redskins - I have to think they will bounce back.
Bills - I'm still pissed at Cincy. I think they should score a bunch against Buffalo, but I am going to have to see it to believe it.
Browns - I'll give Cleveland the benefit of the doubt as I just don't like the Seahawks.
Indy - I hope they destroy NE.
Oakland - The Texans have about half their team hurt and their defense has been giving up a bunch of points.
Philly - Dallas has been talking the talk, but even in the good ole' days going into Philly was never fun.
Steelers - There is something a bit funky about Pittsburgh, maybe it is just making untimely turnovers but they seem to keep teams in games. I could see the Ravens winning this one, but I have to think the Steelers are straight up better, so I give them the nod.

Indy - I hope they destroy NE.

i think indy can win this game but only one team can destroy the other and the colts aren't it.

no indy/colts game on local TV this weekend. and OSU is on the BIGTEN network so no one will see that either. ;_:

bears are on a bye so i'll get the pats i'm sure and i think bc/fsu maybe be on abc? i know it got moved to 8 pm so if it's on espn i'll hit it up at a bar.

what the fuck, i get cleveland and pittsburgh??!?!???

seriously, what the fuck, one game on cbs and one game (gb/kc) on fox at the same time????? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK???? it would almost make sense if each network got one game, one early one late, in the chicago market but both games on at the same time? no afternoon football????

i gotta go to a fucking bar for the pats game? FUCK ME.

dude you have to get an afternoon game, it's in the constitution and shit

maybe they're showing Heidi instead

1:00PM ET:
Arizona Cardinals at Tampa Bay Buccaneers - cardinals romp
Carolina Panthers at Tennessee Titans - titans stomp
Cincinnati Bengals at Buffalo Bills - bills chomp
Denver Broncos at Detroit Lions - lions go bomp
Green Bay Packers at Kansas City Chiefs - packers ftomp
Jacksonville Jaguars at New Orleans Saints - saints badonkadonkdomp
San Diego Chargers at Minnesota Vikings - chargers... rzzoarnaaromp (monster of norse myths)
San Francisco 49ers at Atlanta Falcons - 49ers do something that rhymes with bomp
Washington Redskins at New York Jets - who cares. oh i guess the skins will win

4:00PM ET:
Houston Texans at Oakland Raiders - texans maybe come back for this one? and stop the bleeding? maybe, just maybe. i dunno or care rilly.
New England Patriots at Indianapolis Colts - cbs wins.
Seattle Seahawks at Cleveland Browns - browns.

8:15PM ET:
Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles - cowfags win.

Monday, November 5, 8:30PM ET
Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers - stillers by a point.

dude you have to get an afternoon game, it's in the constitution and shit

that's what i was thinking. but not according to cbs2chicago.com or myfoxchicago.com, unless they're fucking liars. which would not surprise me.

oh wait, i must have chosen the wrong date, cleveland doesn't play pittsburgh this week!!! lemme check again....

whooooo!!!! denver/detroit followed by GOOD VS EVIL!!!!

sunday the 11th the chicago market get's the cleveland/pittsburgh game.

If you remember from earlier this year, I also hoped that Brian Urlacher would plant T.O.'s decapitated head on Lake Shore drive. I hope that this hope turns out better. I'll definitely take a Colts win, just about any win over the Pats.

It is kind of funny with all of the hype that surrounded Brady Quinn in training camp that the only way he is going to see real time on the field this year is if Derek Anderson gets hurt.

Dr. Z also had a good quote this week on Derek Anderson:

"I think the great success of the Derek Anderson to Braylon Edwards passing combination might be a height-related thing. I haven't worked out all the details yet, but when you've got a 6-6 guy throwing to a 6-3, you're raising the game to new heights, and some poor little 5-10 cornerback might only be conscious of a whooshing kind of noise in the air above him. As you can tell, the details of this theory still have to be refined."

Where's that website that has the big map of the U.S. and you can see which markets are getting which games?

http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-09-CBS2.PNG

wtf, does humboldt county have a team now?

If you remember from earlier this year, I also hoped that Brian Urlacher would plant T.O.'s decapitated head on Lake Shore drive.

i don't remember.

urlacher is getting cranky with the local press to the point where he's not answering questions from reporters. the press is fucking FURIOUS that he's only answering questions from fans via his blog and that he self-reported his arthritic back condition. the papers had nothing about it but tv and web were all over the story. it seemed to me that the beat reporters were actually taking this very personally.

wtf, does humboldt county have a team now?

And you should see their logo!

Also, why is lolhio being punished?

they relinquished rights to the colts/pats game for access to the big 10 network.

to rogermexico: It's against the RULES for a home team to show another game in their time slot on the opposite channel. Not sure what those blue blobs are supposed to represent.

also, in ohio you don't access big ten network, big ten network accesses you

oh blue blobs = raiders/texans

t's against the RULES for a home team to show another game in their time slot on the opposite channel.

the team has nothing to do with it unless they own the station. which would probably also be against the rules.

er let me rephrase that. local tv can't show both games when the Browns are at home.

also, in ohio you don't access big ten network, big ten network accesses you.

-what a country!

http://i16.tinypic.com/2d0gvfd.jpg

okay, that's actually kind of awesome.

Kind of? That's the coolest EVAR!

Michael Lewis article on kickers -- Bills fans, beware!

It's all good - that article's the nicest thing anyone's said about Scott Norwood since Wide Right.

No it isn't. He's been a popular realtor in this are for years.

No it isn't. He's been a popular realtor in this are for years.

/giants fan

The Oakland area has now gone red. REPEATING... The Oakland/Northern California area is now red.

SUGE BELICHICK

^^^most retarded thing i've ever read, tho i know i'm wasting my time by even loling jamele hill.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1101/pg2_a_belichick_300.jpg

IN YR BASE, KILLING YR DOODS

Belichick: We have won again. That is good! But what is best in life?
Rookie: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcon on your wrist, wind in your hair!
Belichick: Wrong! Tom, what is best in life?
Brady: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
Belichick: That is good.

I'm going to move this to its own thread...

That 'Suge Belicheck' thing is a nice bookend to the SFJ 'Sounds of Whiteness' essay.

i worked w/this guy once who would always talk abt suge knight but he though it was pronounced sooj - i just couldnt tell him the horrible truth.

this is gonna be a fucking great sports weekend. and to kick it off a local uhf station is showing the original rocky. IT'S JUST GETTING GOOD, APOLLO'S HANDLER IS REALIZING ROCKY IS TAKING IT SERIOUSLY!!!!

also, i'm going to get so shit-house wasted tonight that i'll be hungover through that BC/FSU game tomorrow night and probably won't recover 'til Good v. Evil. thank god it's the late game.

BURGESS MEREDETH YOU ARE MY OLD GUY ALCOHOLIC ROLE MODEL!!!!

PARTY!

ROCKY IS BEING SHOWN IN CLEVO AS WELL WE ARE UHF BROTHERS 4EVA. TWO WEEKS AGO THEY SHOWED 28 DAYS LATER WITHOUT ANY BLOOD MIGHT AS WELL HAVE SHOWN 28 AC SLATERS AMIRITE NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS AS I'M DRUNK.

me and brownie are uhf brothers.

we should get tattoos.

omg 28 AC Slaters. omg brownie, I could not possibly love you more.

seriously is there something about being a homer for a sad team and watching lots of SBTB

I think maybe rooting for Screech is like rooting for the Bills/Browns?
but frankly, I think there's something about being American and under 30 and watching lots of SBTB.

ALSO THE BROWNS ARE TOTALLY AWESOME THIS YEAR

JAMIE DUKES SAID HE WAS DRINKING THEIR KOOLAID

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2157/im003752nl9.jpg

Leon Washington = badass!

brett favre is having fun, if you define fun as making a panicky throw into triple coverage for an easy interception.

all yall picking the jaguars are gonna look silly later this afternoon. saints are back.

Bills score on their opening drive for the first time all season, I think! ilu, Bengals defense!!

I am 29 and watched like none of this SBTB
no cars, robots or spaceships = fuk u tv

im pretty sure mr belding wuz a robot

hay is there some game on today or something

bill simmons talks about this all the time, but kevin harlan just said "rod smith is out for the year w/ a hip" and that shit is still really hilarious.

well then, between the two of us, we've probably seen every tv show ever, Tom.

jesus christ Bengals return kickoff for a td. :(

Bills fans probably need to put down the razor...criminy, first and goal at the 1 and settle for a field goal then giving up a return for a TD on the ensuing kick off. This kind of stuff has been happening to Cinci all year. It has been a pretty even game so far.

first game all season where the Bills offense has seemed at all up to snuff. except at the goal line, I guess. ;_;

jets/skins = surprisingly exciting, kick return td, onsides kick

vikes/bolts = lot of punting, still reasonably watchable

seems like the saints/jaguars game is good, too, huh? kind of wish I could be watching that one.

http://www.lutheranok.com/partners/2001youth/images/WhoDat.jpg

Lee Evans, I would like to kiss you on the mouth!

adam, i <3 your saints!

Of course then the Bengals come out and squib kick the Bills to midfield and then play a soft enough D to give the Bills a shot at the endzone. It figures, one step up and one step back.

ugh I hate dick jauron sending the field goal unit on rather than trying for the td.

Bills coaching staff=pussing out '07

Love this Saints-Jags shootout.

the saints are the most likable team in sports.

a couple of bad calls by the officials and a couple of good D plays have destroyed Philip Rivers' confidence. 10 consecutive incompletions. unless his season picks up he's going to start finding himself under even more scrutiny and pressure, and he looks like that'll just break him. it's the beginning of the end - you heard it here first.

the saints are the most likable team in sports.

aside from reggie bush, maybe...

he is a necessary evil.

for a while he was doing these ads for a local appliance store and he looked so resentful that he had to do these podunk ads when he could be rolling around in his huge piles of adidas money or whatever and he just glared at everyone else in the commercial with this barely restrained murderous loathing. i kind of hate him.

now they have marques colston doing it. #1 american hero

I like Colston. Is Deuce out all season? I love him!

colston is the realest deal.

OMG 109 yd return SD!!

holy shit @ 109 yd TD.

xp

colston is a beast in madden 08.

it was a huge gamble for the Vikes just getting in FG range, and that's their reward. on the one hand, you have to feel sorry for them, but on the other hand, tee hee.

SD has got some f'in weapons man. O is loaded anyway (cept maybe WR) why not use cromartie, turner, sproles, etc. way more in the o-fense??

Deuce is done, yeah.

Brees = 300+ yards in 1st half.

"Reggie Bush has been begging all season for some punt return opportunities" -- first chance he gets, it bounces off his face.

Drew Brees is cuet.

uh-oh the j-j-jets might end my survival run

brees has the male version of tina fey mystery blemish/birthmark/scar.

ha fork picked the skins over jets too

cromartie is such a baller, dudes.

and has a great name.

my firend: reggie bush was about to rec. a punt
my friend: adn the announcers were talking about how he's been begging for a chance to return a punt
my friend: and so as he goes to catch it
my friend: it hits him in the face and bounces away from him

^^^this makes me v. happy.

Cromartie is a fictional character portrayed by Owain Yeoman and Garret Dillahunt in the upcoming television series, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. He is a Terminator sent back from the future to kill John Connor.

is anyone else watching the det-den game? the really effeminate ref is doing the game and whenever he calls the penalty i feel like i'm watching some really kinky role-playing porn movie i should not be watching. "holding... number seeeventy-ooone... ten yard... penalty... repeat first down" etc.

Ugh, every other sentence out of Dick Enberg's mouth is just inaccurate and has to be corrected a few seconds later, or left to hang there in the air like an egg-fart. He's losing it faster than Pat Summerall did.

xpost roffle, "oo-er missus, holding, backfield in motion, I say!"

someone get at me w/ reggie bush ball off face mask .gif.

Ocho Cinco seems to be strugglin'

ive seen at least like 4 briandawkinsflyingsquirrel-style tackles this weekend. they've all been less awesome than b.dawk cuz dudes are jumping over defenders to make the hit and thus are reasonable

^^^these are v. effective.

reggie bush apparently has good suspension and brakes.

why do I even like the Bills seriously?

I am going to just start rooting for the Patriots for my own sanity.

lol @ larry johnson grabbing the hueg kansas city flag from the dude and waving it around in the endzone.

ilu Mmmmmmarshawn!!

guys i think the lions are running it up

Hey Joe Buck. Please tell us the story again about Ty Law wanting Bret Favre to autograph any ball that he intercepts, thnx never gets old.

yay marshawn tomlinson!

+ johnny crunch otm

:D lions.

they should have marshawn play all this positions, amirite?

^^for fantasy purposes truly, but il martz + post-halloween kitna xpost to myself.

hey lee evans is actually back tho.

Moorman's a pretty stud punter...

yeah, Losman + Evans look like last season's version of Losman + Evans intermittently. can't tell if that's just Bengals' shitty defense or what.

OMG WOW THREE TOUCHDOWNS DETROIT D BEST FANTASY PICKUP OF 2007.

AH MARSHAWN TD RUSHING THIS TIME!!!!

xposts, yeah, Moorman can stay.

WOW YEAH MARSHAWN.

And on cue Marshawn goes for 56 and the touchdown...

minnesota looks goooood.

"man i love a good looking screen... they are really, really attractive plays." dan dierdorf otm.

ooooooor not...

god, could we get Marshawn Lynch to cover kickoffs? for fuck's sake.

so are they gonna fire marvin lewis or what?

tomlinson only needs 1 arm to catch

right? I feel bad for Carson Palmer. he seems nice.

xpost

this vikings game is really good. i hope we don't have to miss the end of it because of THE GAME OF THE CENTURY.

oh no Chad Johnson is hurt. :(

MY GOD.

WAU ADRIAN

AP>LT IT'S SO TRUE.

(not really but this is a religous experience.)

it's nice to see him do this @ home, too.

everybody's kneeling in prayer. shit. Johnson's still on the ground.

neck?

I don't know. I fucking hope not. :( Ralph Wilson stadium is cursed apparently.

they put him on a gurney and his legs were moving, apparently.

so probably not neck.

(listening to the game on the radio)

pleae keep us updated horseshoe. on the bright side of things, apete has 7 minutes and about 40 yards to break the rushing record.

wowowow @ adrian peterson

oh god @ Buffalo radio personality saying condescending things about Johnson being "entertaining"

already the 6th best rushing game in the history of the leauge.

not for nothing, but chester taylor just ran for 35 yards. this minnesota line is really fucking something.

DAER MIKE HOLGMREN,

WHERE IS YR GOD NOW??

Sincerely,

Steve Hutchinson

if you took all the home teams you are basically 8-1 so far (assuming even if nyj lose it will only be by 3)

memo to AJ Smith: yr chargers are who we thought they were

I like LT, but for Marty's sake I'm kind of looking forward to watching him weep openly in the post-game. This might have been a different game if the bolts could have protected their QB at all.

phil fucking simms.

"phil-osiphy"

i know, right?

my hatred for the pats is so thoroughly irrational. I just found myself wishing ill on bruschi of all people. why do I favor a pack of red-state jesus nuts over a true blue american symbol of intellectual and organizational dominance?

a: bcz BO-RING

peterson broke the single game record, dude.

lol @ harrison slapping ref's ass

ha I ask myself that a lot. I think Peyton is probably not a jesus nut personally?

xposts to tom

i think it's pretty fitting that peterson ends up overshadowing THE GAME OF THE CENTURY.

by fitting i mean funny, but maybe fitting in some way.

Adam Vinatieri, AGENT OF BELICHICK

FFS! one of the apartments opposite seems to be a few seconds ahead of us on the game transmission and they're reacting to every play just before it happens. :(

YEAH ROBERT MATHIS!

"he has never missed a field goal in this stadium... until now."

wow fire these fucking guys. who is doing the play-by-play? it took him all of 30 seconds to forget the difference between the names MATHIS and FREENEY.

also: awesome, that was some kind of american bandstand disco shit to beat 77 and get the sack

la la la la la la la adrian peterson la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

this is kind of astounding the way addai is gashing these dudes.

pats d is looking real weak.

ilu Dwight freeney!

Joseph Addai is money.

this game is STRESSING me OUT

cookies eaten: 327

YES!!!!!!!

was that Bethea with the int?

Joseph Addai is money.

-- horseshoe, Sunday, November 4, 2007 4:11 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

addai reminds me of a slightly bigger marshall faulk. dude is v. shifty.

fuck

"MANNING DROPPED BY MATHIS FOR THE SECOND TIME TODAY"

...

......

"er, brady"

Robert Mathis=HERO

pats d is looking real weak

i don't think the patriots care what you or anyone else think of them. and after "Guys, the Patriots defense isn't that good" i don't think your opinion carries much weight anyway.

-- chicago kevin, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:44 (1 week ago)

Hi there.

the pat's d isnt looking "real weak" yet tbh.

I can't believe CBS put Nantz and this other joker on the GAME OF THE SEASON.

no, I wouldn't say the Pats D looks weak. the Colts D looks fucking awesome, though.

vintage randy.

Randy Moss is truly amazing, I have to say.

Yeah, that's fair about Patriot's Defense; it's early, and they're good. Colts running game looks much better than I'd thought.

Sidenote: I'm aware of it and take appropriate precautions, but it's amazing to me that I can't let my 6 year old daughter even watch the commercials during this game! That video war game commercial that appeared during the last break was really violent.

holy shit that catch

man both these teams love them some draws.

Bob Sanders: WOW

aye reg.

you have to catch that, Reggie Wayne!

omfg

BRACKETT!!

maybe anthony brackett should play wr

clark is honestly a top 15 wr.

lol brady's rushing 18 yds vs manning rushing for 1

i just got home, what the fuck happened here??!?!?

haha moss. about time.

i love bob sanders still crushing him after the catch.

I hope Sanders is okay.

Hi there.

-- Daniel, Esq., Sunday, November 4, 2007 5:04 PM (Sunday, November 4, 2007 5:04 PM) Bookmark Link

uh, so far holding the colts to under 21 points, hardly weak i'd say.

I didn't say they were weak. I said they weren't that great.

so what happened to the pats offense? why only 10 points?

im no pats apologist but lots of questionable flags too

wow, mark the date, jim nantz just made a salient observation.

so what happened to the pats offense? why only 10 points?

Brady intercepted twice; Colts Defense really good today.

(But Pats hurting Colts D on this drive)

the pat's d isnt looking "real weak" yet tbh.

-- J0rdan S., Sunday, November 4, 2007 11:05 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

you guys must be watching a different game than me, a game wherein joseph addai hasn't run roughshod over the pats d.

yeah, but stence, they held indy to two field goals instead of touchdowns.

pats are getting crushed with these hook routes. granted i've only been watching for 20 minutes so maybe they were getting beat deep early?

rodney harrison intercepted manning.

Kev, what you missed was pretty much all addai all the time.

i would hardly say 20 pts is awful. esp. against the colts.

wow, pats have been sloppy with 9 penalties for over 140 yards.

xpost- i don't like addai.

FUCK

wow, nice hit ty warren.

FUCK FUCK FUCK

someone around the corner from me is burning leaves (which i believe is illegal in chicago) and the smoke killing me. i don't know why i can inhale tobacco but not fucking leaves from elm trees.

xpost- yeah yeah yeah!!!

browns gonna be 5-3.

YAY BROWNS!

way too much time left to say that re: browns

FUUUUUUUUUUCK

beautiful.

apparently the pats were waiting for me to get home and start watching the game before turning it on?

ha srsly Kev. ;_;

I'M THERE GOOD LUCK CHARM!!!!

THEIR EVEN!!!!

i'm there, good luck charm.

i jinxed the browns :X THEY HAD THE BALL TO RUN OUT THE CLOCK.

hey, horseshoe, off topic but is there anywhere down by the U that is decent for afterwork drinks? because taking the blue line home between 5 and 6:30 from the loop is fucking gross. all asses and elbows in there.

i regret my earlier statement.

if i had Bill Gates' money, instead of doing all that charity shit I would pay Peyton Manning, who would no doubt accept given that he is known to do just about anything for money, to stand in the middle of a field with a football and get repeatedly sacked. there isn't all that much i enjoy more.

the best place is Jimmy's, Kev, at 55th and Woodl4wn. I will totally meet you for all this afterwork drinks! I'm in Hyde Park, like, 4 days a week lately.

roberto OTM

aw, Joe Addai. you get my game ball. :(

12:49 CLE TD Jamal Lewis rushed to the left for 2 yard gain (Phil Dawson missed PAT)

after watching belechick right there no one can pretend like this was just another game.

the way this game finished is similar to how the Colts won the championship game, so i imagine it was particularly satisfying for NE.

if i had Bill Gates' money, instead of doing all that charity shit I would pay Peyton Manning, who would no doubt accept given that he is known to do just about anything for money, to stand in the middle of a field with a football and get repeatedly sacked. there isn't all that much i enjoy more.

roberto i don't know you but you get my game ball.

horseshoe, i'm there m-f so i'm totally down. so far i really like working there! i haven't enjoyed my job since i got my promotion at my last job, it's a great change.

shouldnt someone be able to show the sea/clev OT now? like throw it on the nfl network or some such?

the way this game finished is similar to how the Colts won the championship game, so i imagine it was particularly satisfying for NE.

-- Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, November 4, 2007 6:22 PM (Sunday, November 4, 2007 6:22 PM) Bookmark Link

ugh, i was stuck on the tarmac at o'scare for the afc championship game in january. former ilnfler ally was updating me via text messages but then my cell died and i had another two hours stuck on the ground in a plane. last i heard the pats were up, when we finally got to the gate i deplaned in time to see the final eventful pats drive. it was devestating.

aw, Kevin, that's awesome! well, I could totally do Jimmy's on Wednesday this week, for example.

(awesome about digging your job, not being devastated about the afc championship game last year, of course.)

wednesday sounds good, we'll firm up plans later? i'll see if dan wants to come as well. also, i've totally gotta start taking the metra to work, i took it home friday and MAN that beats the jackson park express bus.

yeah, I take the Metra whenever possible!

yeah browns!

holy fuck adrian peterson!!!

where u been dawg?

this is the first time i've watched the Vikings this season and although Peterson is clearly very good, the run blocking by their O-Line was incredible. i didn't know they were anything like that good.

i also didn't know that Addai was quite that good, especially given how miserly the Pats usually are against the run. Peterson has this knack of avoiding the first tackler, but Addai's approach is to plough into a mess of players and come out the other side. i keep hearing comparisons of Addai and Maroney but sadly I don't think Maroney, while good, looks anything like as good.

fuck, looks like i picked the wrong week to miss most of the games, anything else of note happen?

where u been dawg?

-- J0rdan S., Sunday, November 4, 2007 6:38 PM (Sunday, November 4, 2007 6:38 PM) Bookmark Link

fucking shit, you don't want to know. trying to fix last night's mistakes.

(Kevin, I am super-impressed by your mistakes!!!)

Peterson has this knack of avoiding the first eleven tackler tacklers.

by that i mean first eleven tacklers bbcode makes me catatonic.

guys I'm waching Peterson in postgame interview and he is PAINFULLY CUET!

i also didn't know that Addai was quite that good, especially given how miserly the Pats usually are against the run.

pats aren't that great against the run. they employ a bend but don't break defense where they'll give up yardage and tighten up in the red zone to try to limit scoring to fg's instead of td's. pats don't like giving up touchdowns. the run numbers look good because they've put teams behind the eightball early and opponents have needed to pass to get back in the game.

pats aren't that great against the run. they employ a bend but don't break defense where they'll give up yardage and tighten up in the red zone to try to limit scoring to fg's instead of td's.

this is exactly what happened.

(Kevin, I am super-impressed by your mistakes!!!)

i'm super not. not so much in the commission of the mistakes but the way i went about it was pretty classless. not cool at all.

bad day to be a NFC/AFC WEST team
waiting for a tv personality to make the joek that the only team not to lose was StL...

oh wow, janakowski ALMOST made a 64 yarder...

god Tom Brady is so fucking happy postgame. I can't take it.

i'm really starting to resent the fact that the colts-pats game is still a bigger story than peterson breaking the record, or even peterson in general. not to mention the fact that he basically single-handedly crushed the chargers aka #3 (albeit a distant one) in the big afc 3.

meaning he did not run all over the texans or something, not like it should even fucking matter.

haha Eisen on Brady: "Is he rocking the velour?"

you are not a teenage girl in 1994, Tom Brady; there's no call for velour.

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sorry this really bothers me tho.

ok yahoo is the worst two pats headlines before one peterson one.

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sorry that this thread is gonna take 6 million years to load now.

why don't the Cowboys start Marion Barber? I love that dude.

you are not a teenage girl in 1994, Tom Brady; there's no call for velour.

-- horseshoe, Sunday, November 4, 2007 7:12 PM (Sunday, November 4, 2007 7:12 PM) Bookmark Link

in my third grade picture i was wearing my favorite velour shirt. i think it was purple, white, and brown? i dunno, it was 1982 and it was third grade so... yeah.

marion barber is a beast. that guy runs with abandon.

Randy Moss is just about impossible to cover. That guy is a freak. If I was a scout I might try to find some 6-5 or 6-6 basketball players that have some speed, but not enough game to make it in the pros for hoop and try and develop some kind of super cornerback to try and cover a guy like that.

The Colts made some oddball play calls in the second half. I know if Manning hits on one of those deep balls to Wayne it changes the game, but the fact that three times with short yardage he went deep instead of just getting a first down really hurt them, especially on the 3rd and 2. Peyton seemed to really want to bust out for a big pass and it didn't happen and it really kept their defense on the field much more than needed. Indy's D seemed to run out of gas in the fourth quarter.

Jordan, I guess I understand where you're coming from, but isn't the outcome of a huge game between two undefeated teams more important than the setting of an individual record, which is basically a bit of trivia? if it had been pats vs Kansas or something that made the headline, that would be another thing.

If I was a scout I might try to find some 6-5 or 6-6 basketball players that have some speed, but not enough game to make it in the pros for hoop and try and develop some kind of super cornerback to try and cover a guy like that.

you just described randy moss. no one would waste a fast, high-jumping 6-6 dude @ the cb position.

i think there is some gray area, robert. i think the fact that peterson is a rookie makes a huge difference. basically it doesn't have as much to do w/ the record as how it was achieved and against the team that it was acheived against. the fact that we may honestly be watching the manifestation of the best running back in the history of the game (8 games i know, but he's on another planet right now) seems more important than the outcome of a game between two great teams, an outcome that except for bragging rights doesn't really mean all that much (maybe for home field or something, but that's not a given, both team are going to win their division, make the playoffs, etc.)

i don't want to say that this reeks of the press reporting on (or perpetuating the) hype that only they themselves have created, because i guess i'm still naive to think that the press reports the most important stories first, but what peterson did today was more incredible than anything that happened within the colts-pats game or the game itself.

maybe because i was watching the vikings game, but it was hard not to watch these 64 and 46 yard touchdowns and not feel like you were literally watching history in the process. again, gray area, maybe i'm being attracted by flair and elegance (and my own romanticism) but i was never emotionally pulled by the pats-colts game as i was by peterson today.

even tho i have no direct relation to peterson or the vikings, i fear that i may be too emotionally involved in the proceedings to argue rationally.

tho i still contend that if i was the editor of espn.com peterson gets the big picture and colts-pats gets "relegated" to the bright, red breaking news box, but i guess i understand the argument otherwise.

oh, ya think?

what peterson did will have virtually no effect on the postseason.
the pats-colts game has tremendous postseason implications.
the narrative of the regular season is that it is a prelude to the even greater excitement of the postseason leading up to the biggest advertising venue in the history of television. sorry you don't like football.

If I was a scout I might try to find some 6-5 or 6-6 basketball players that have some speed,

that was lenny walls, a cb the broncos had out of bc. lenny's twin brother kenny was a small forward on bc's basketball team. they may have only been 6-4 though. still, that's fucking huge for a cb.

Tom is otm. Peterson is fantastic, but the Vikings are 3-5.

I think Donovan McNabb is a very attractive man, but I get the impression this is not a widely-held opinion?

i mean a. the vikings can still make the playoffs, the man single handedly trampled a playoff bound team and b. the playoff implications of an undefeated team beating an undefeated team are that if they are to meet in their league's championship game the winner of the previous game would have home field, provided they finish w/ the better record.

none of this is at all a given. that peterson broke the rushing record, and that he did it with such abandon and grace— still one of the more harrowed records in the game— is cemented, as his is status as one of the top 2 running backs in the whole sport.

there is something to this that makes it bigger to me than dillon or lewis breaking it. for those guys it was obviously the apex of their career, the point at which it all went right. i think it matters that this seems like a stepping stone to greener pastures. it does sadden me that it's being overshadowed by some 24-20 game, and i don't make any apologies for that.

fine, but do you think McNabb is cuet or what?

i think he is stately man.

a stately man :/

he has a serene beauty thing going on.

i love the picture of McNabb with big hair they still use on Madden. those dudes need to update their picture library evben more desperately than their commentary. and while i'm on that, why does Shawne Merriman not only not get his only photo, but also gets the white version of the generic player graphic?

guys, Brady is definitely wearing a velour jacket and an unbuttoned shirt. ew.

i would not be mad @ matt lauer being left "somewhere in the arctic circle."

i think that's actually velvet that Brady is wearing rather than velour, which means that rather than a fitting target for ridicule, he is actually a pimp.

Secretion is the better part of velour.

hmmmmm, fine line between "pimp" and "dandy".

HAHA YES EVIL T.O. I LOVE IT.

Secretion is the better part of velour.

simultaneously amazed and grossed out.

from my ongoing irrational hate of Brady files, last week he was wearing a newsies cap and getting filmed in soft focus for some goddamn reason in pregame interviews. he looked like a female London street urchin circa 1930.

al michaels just compared him to michael jordan DOES NOT COMPUTE.

WTF, did Grandpa Eagle have a tongue piercing?!

guys, what does "the dish can run away with the spoon" mean?

ok, i would love to take that kid from the mcdonalds commercial to a bar because i'm sure his castoffs would be better than anything i could pull on my own.

This "Andy Reid's not guilty of anything" crap is starting to irritate me. He's guilty of failing to raise two spoiled privileged kids who turned out assholes. "Our hearts go out to the Reid family" my ass.

(I don't think he should be subject to NFL discipline, but sympathy for Reid is fucked up.)

ok, I'm back and drunk as usual.

BROWNS WIN

Since I'm the only one who actually saw the game I will recap. Browns go down 21-6 and look like bums then come storming back. They get a 30-27 lead after a clutch 2-point conversion (awesome Phil Dawson missed an extra point earlier). Seattle with a minute and half left get down and kick a field goal to tie it up.

Overtime: Browns lose the coin toss. After the kickoff Seattle drives with the short passing game like they did the entire game. Browns are going to lose.

Well Seattle decides to run the ball on 4th and inches from the Clevo 40 and is stopped.

Our man Winslow catches some balls (Edwards having a horrible day) and the Browns are on the 8. Awesome Dawson kicks for the win.

Holgremnmnmnmnmn. At no time did the Browns stop the west coast dink and dunk. Until they went with the run game.

Bills score 33! Browns score 33!

And the Broncos lose big.

Now if only one of the two teams tomorrow lose I will be happy.

Okay, Witten gets Badass of the Week for that helmetless run.

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aw, congrats bloobhloj!

TTTTTTTTTTTTTTHANK YPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Since I'm the only one who actually saw the game...

Heeeey! I resent that!

whoa ok that actually was the most imoprtant game ever - srsly this is weird but i was more freaked out by that game than i think by any sporting event ever. i couldnt sit down, i was just pacing and saying fuck fuck fuck and inhaling beers the whole time.

i did manage to observe a few things: first of all weirdness, more draw plays than any game ever im sure. the play calling was on some other chess grand master level strategic shit. what im trying to say is i have no idea what was going on there. obv belichick pwnd the bigot dungy - making the big halftime adjustments and holding the colts to 90 yards for the rest of the game. in the presser he criticized his own play calling saying something like well i guess my strategy wasnt so good in the first half then broke out in the smarmiest smirk then tried to stop and couldnt really regain his dour form for a while. struggling against joy belichick lol.

the officiating: its really good the pats won here cause this bullshit would be the whole story had they lost. one of the endzone pass interference calls was just completely phantom, and then dude hugging moss's arm on the bomb isnt called, then the imaginary endzone o pass interference on moss that prob shouldve been on the d that turned a td into a field goal. my dad thinks it was phil simms who bought off the refs, just cause he's a dick.

the colts are really good. football outsiders says these are the two best teams of the last 8 years (as far back as their stats go). the game while not pretty was clearly played on a level no one else in the league can touch. i wouldnt be surprised if the colts dont lose another game until they meet the pats in foxboro. but the pats just beat indy in indy on a day when indy got every call. this shit is not a discussion anymore.

i think i need to watch it again in a less shit faced emotional state. so far no torrent. holla if you know where one is thx.

NFL Network's replaying it Wed. night, if you get that channel.

charlie casserly mentioned in the studio show prior to the early game that the referee team was last in the league in calling defensive pass interference (4 through 8 games) and first in the league in calling it on offense so moss was probably going to have a tough game. not too tough though.

a colts drive was also completely stalled by a series of o-line penalties in I think the 3rd quarter so they didn't get "every call." second team left tackle got a false start to set it off and they might has well have just punted right then.

come on tom, a false start isn't exactly the same as pass interference. it's a lot more noticeable when only one guy on the offense starts moving and everyone else is still set.

not to harp on this buuuuuuuut: ne:10-146 / indy:4-25

and if there was a series of penalties that was the only time they were getting flagged because the colts had 4/25 yards compared to the pats 10/146.

but then again the pats are cheaters amirite?

I'm just saying it wasn't like the refs were throwing the fucking game.
pats also had the crowd noise to deal with which probably caused half of those flags

the colts did have a bunch of injuries tho - ill give them that

i wouldnt be surprised if this is the beginning of the end for m harrison

torrent is here if anyone's interested http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1414598/6440472

tho its a 4gb dvd for some reason

i must have missed where someone accused the refs of throwing the game. this isn't the nba is it?

no it's major league adrian peterson

the bears have minor league adrian peterson ;_;

NFL Network's replaying it Wed. night, if you get that channel.

Peyton Manning's replaying it IN HIS HEAD every night until playoffs.

I don't like the Patriots so much, but Peyton seems like one of those guys who'd act all chummy with you and then give you some annoying nickname since he's bigger.

And oh, let's sing the dirges for Marvin Harrison's absence.

man, i can't help but think how much different last years afc championship game could have been if the pats had any one of moss, stallworth, or welker. also, from hearing postgame comments, i think that loss is where this years tendency to run up the score was born. they kept talking about 60 minutes of effort, trying as hard on the last series of the game as the first and how last year they didn't do that and it cost them.

yes, i agree, i recall having this argument a couple days ago w/some coworkers - part of belichick's strategy has to be that they go out there every week and play hard for 60 minutes, no matter what - having them get used to slacking off vs other teams half the season isn't consistent.

Peyton seems like one of those guys who'd act all chummy with you and then give you some annoying nickname since he's bigger.

I do not agree!

i remember a few years ago si did a story on cooper manning, he seems like the true fratboy d-bag of the family. peyton seems to aspire to that but there's too much mommas boy in him that prevents him from being truly slimy.

Peyton is a nerd, also. love!

the bigot dungy

Those Peyton Pep-Talk commercials kinda support my argument.

I don't think he writes them himself!

I prefer uber-supportive Peyton-as-fan of the other Mastercard commercials.

sorry, you don't actually have to engage with my Peyton-crush. it's not rationally grounded.

Not to make the obvious comment, but if the colts had been healthy...

yeah but they weren't. just as the pats have had to face manning with troy brown playing nickleback and linebacker don davis playing safety. shit happens and you have to adjust.

...the chargers aka #3 (albeit a distant one) in the big afc 3.

-- J0rdan S., Monday, 5 November 2007 01:09 (11 hours ago) Link

lol wut

i mean a. the vikings can still make the playoffs

-- J0rdan S., Monday, 5 November 2007 02:41 (10 hours ago) Link

LOL WUT

uh a. the vikings aren't mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, they still play both the lions and the packers again once (at least). a 9-7 team could make it from the nfc, unlikely but still.

and i was saying they really trounced the chargers— a for sure playoff team and one that had looked like it was back as the #3 in the afc, albeit a distant one to the pats/colts as i mentioned.

anyway, a few thots;

indy outplayed ne for most of the game. i was nervous as hell for all 60 minutes of gametime; tbh i didnt even believe the pats were gonna win until they started kneeling down at the end. still, nothing about the game really surprised me, buuuut i also didn't expect indy to dominate the lines of scrimmage against new england like they did.

and, y'know, that was actually a pretty good game relative to the hype. so that was cool.

man, i can't help but think how much different last years afc championship game could have been if the pats had any one of moss, stallworth, or welker. also, from hearing postgame comments, i think that loss is where this years tendency to run up the score was born. they kept talking about 60 minutes of effort, trying as hard on the last series of the game as the first and how last year they didn't do that and it cost them.

-- chicago kevin, Monday, November 5, 2007 4:46 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, i thought the AFCC was clearly the impetus for their crazy offseason - it's all to compete with Indy. after getting their asses kicked by the colts three times in a row BB pretty much decided that they needed an explosive, Indy-style offense to have a shot at beating them.

they aren't mathematically eliminated, yeah, but neither are the rams. get the fuck outta here.

the chargers are at best a DISTANT FOURTH to pittsburgh's distant third, was my point. there's a dropoff from Newenglanapolis to Pitt, but a much bigger one from Pitt to SD. imo.

it was a really good game! so many cookies were stress-consumed by me.

wrt #3 afc team, yeah. like bloobhloj said, yesterday's GAME proved how far above all other teams in the league Indy and NE are.

pats play pittsburgh later in the season, no?

BREAKING NEWS COLTS CHEATERS: NFL INVESTIGATING PIPED IN DOME NOISE + MONKEYING W/BRADY/BELICHICK COMMUNICATION SYSTEM!!!!!!

Brady-to-Moss, Brady-to-Moss, Brady-to-Moss, Brady-to-that-other-guy, do they even need helmet communications?

fwiw this is pitt's sched this year:
at Cleveland W 34-7
Buffalo W 26-3
San Francisco W 37-16
at Arizona L 14-21
Seattle W 21-0
at Denver L 28-31
at Cincinnati W 24-13

that's what, one team w/ a winning record? i don't doubt that they are in the top 4 (maybe even number 3) but i'd hesitate to say that they are as far apart from SD as you guys are insinuating. i also don't doubt that the pats are going to trounce pitt like they did SD.

SD's a fairly solid all-around team right now, but their offense isn't as dominant as it was last year. pitt's offense has been really inconsistent, but their defense is as good as it gets. obviously you'd still favor NE against them but i promise it'll be a more competetive matchup than SD was.

it's just sad how this all makes giants-cowboys seem like such a waste of time. it's even hard to wholeheartedly cheer for the wizard of favre because unless the colts and pats get hell of injured during the rest of the regular season it's like everything is writ.

- signed, a very butthurt NFC fan

the nu-packers storyline is still really cool to me! i mean i feel wut ur sayin, but hay anything can happen~

i think pitt has both the wrs and the qb to give the pats some trouble, i think the colts showed yesterday that you can still kinda knick away @ the pats dbs. hines ward + santonio holmes + heath miller> vincent jackson + whoever their second reciever was @ the time + gates.

idk what the strategy to beat the pats is. keep the ball away from them? they really slammed tomlinson, tho i think parker + steelers could really muscle them around. i think it'll end up being something like the dallas game where it's close into the 3rd (probably into the 4th) until the pats pull away, and make the final margin pretty wide w/ this run up the score/ FINISH THE GAME thing w/e you wanna call it.

would they ever get rid of the conferences and just have the SB between the two best teams? is that crazy talk?

er by knick maybe i mean nick i dont even know but i think you get @ what im saying.

the strategy is to pressure brady and yeah, have a good running game so you can keep their offense off the field. and kidnap Randy Moss.

pittsburgh likes to blitz, so they will probably have some success with the former.

I don't think Pittsburgh is going to win that game, but I bet they keep it fairly close.

eh im kinda of the mind that pitt just hasnt really played anyone

although im not really sure whos better after ne/indy/dal

when you think about the real good teams besides the colts that the pats have beat now— SD, dallas— it's not like those teams have individual parts worse— esp. on offense— than the steelers, meaning tomlinson is better than parker and barber/jones, but parker and barber/jones are pretty equal. romo/roeth/rivers aren't in all actuality that far apart, they are all three capable of putting up great numbers or totally blowing games. the recievers aren't that far apart either, maybe SD loses that one but gates makes up for most of it, and TO is great but not consistently better than hines ward (tho this season i guess he is). the defenses are all v. good, good lines + linebackers w/ solid defensive backs, tho no one that is gonna instill fear in the hearts of moss/stalworthl/welker.

is tomlin that much of a better coach than turner/phillips? it's very possible. are the steelers glued together so to speak better than those other two? again possible. is roethlisberger more, um, "careful" than the other 2 qbs? possibly, though the pats play well against him. do the steelers just seem to always keep it close in games like this? yeah maybe that's it.

basically idk dudes.

it seems like the keystone here is if you can keep your pass rush going at speed right up until the end of the game. If at any point Brady starts being able to get 2 seconds or more in the pocket, Welker or Moss will be open, and game over. No DB scheme is going to work as well as it needs to on the pats' WRs to allow your pass rushers to get tired. I think this is a big part of the way the Pats keep opening it up in the fourth.

I also think this is why I am still kind of stoked for Week 17.

that game in new jersey or massachusetts tom?

pitt is dead in the middle of the nfl when it comes to sacks but maybe they are deep enough to stay fresh? do they still run a 3-4? maybe if you keep throwing linebackers at the pats you can throw them off their game a bit. needless to say ike taylor and deshea townsend are gonna get eaten by moss/stall/welker if brady has any sort of time.

kidnapping randy moss seems like best strat imo.

I also think this is why I am still kind of stoked for Week 17.

yeah pats playing for perfect season v sick pass rush could be compelling (unless giants dont have anything to play for at that point)

re: pitt

in theory, i think i kind of like them, too, however, looking at who they've beaten is one thing. looking at who they've lost to is quite another! just looking at their points scored/points allowed this am i was impressed until it sank in how much they blew against a fairly lackluster broncs squad.

re: piped in dome noise was it here that i read that colts' crowd noise track skipped at one point? :)

the other thread has audio.

re: piped in dome noise was it here that i read that colts' crowd noise track skipped at one point? :)

Peyton probably brought that idea with him after all those years at Neyland.

btw saw junior seau (dressed in manner that left no doubt to his gayness) interviewed @ celtics opening night and he said the pats d job was to... make indy kick field goals!

each team scored 4 times

from boston.com...

November 5, 2007
Pats-Bills to 8:15
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff

The Patriots' road game against the Bills on Nov. 18 is being moved to an 8:15 p.m. kickoff, the NFL announced today.

This is the first game that is eligible to be moved as part of the league's flexible scheduling. The game will be broadcast on NBC.

"The Patriots quest for a perfect season is clearly the biggest story in the NFL," said Dick Ebersol, Chairman, NBC Universal, Sports & Olympics. "It's also been 13 years since the NFL's premier primetime game visited Buffalo and it will be quite a scene there."

so now i don't have to go to delilah's to watch the game then get pummeled by bills fans after the pats put the hurt on them.

nice!

"well, gee, that's so fucking great," a resigned Dick Jauron told the press...

haha!

WTF? A search for "NFL Week 9" on that demonoid site only brings up the Pats/Colts game. WHY the FUCK don't they have the rest of the games?

I would pay like $3,000 to have all this years' Browns games as avi files on my computer.

"well, gee, that's so fucking great," a resigned Dick Jauron told the press...

LOL, but don't forget the sneaky Bills are 6-2 through 478 minutes of play...

At times Pittsburgh has looked shaky, especially in the offensive line. They're able to get away with it because Roffles has such great pocket awareness. We'll see tonight how the line holds up against the Ravens. I don't think they can beat NE though. They give up to many third down plays on defense.

idk, i still think the colts can beat NE even if it has to be in foxboro. and not just cuz they were banged up a bit but indy's D played v. well i thought -- Brady made some fuckin pinpoint throws and receivers made some really really great plays but the horses were right there for the most part...i mean, you can say what's to keep brady/moss/welker/stallworth from repeating such high level play if there was a rematch but id be encouraged if i were an indy fan.

also, this is definitely the first time ive really looked forward to being able to rewatch & carefully pay attention to a game a few days later on the nfl network

Steelers wearing throwback unis for the 2nd time this year?

Yeah, I love the throwback unis. It's to bad the Ravens can't wear their throwback jerseys, then they would be the Browns. Blasphemy.

wau nice play robble

i think the colts could definitely win a rematch and maybe if reggie wayne didn't have butterfingers they would have won last night. but i think the pats would still be favored and rightly so!

How exactly have the Ravens won ANY games this year?

21 to 0. I don't think the Raven have enough offense to come back.

28 to 0 probably seals this deal. What else is on?

ok wow so this game might be single-handedly voiding my whole argument upthread huh?

Mike Tomlin: running up the score!

Never thought I'd say this, but "PUT IN BOLLER!"

Okay, this is just ridiculous. Is Billick afriad to call a play over 10 yards in length?

where was the national guard?

McNair is done as an NFL starter.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1105/nfl_ap_roethlisberger_412.jpg

i really like both the helmet and the jersey here but not really the combination. the yellow/black gets all unbalanced. im thinking the throwback jerseys w/the current helmets might be sweet.

eh super sloppy

http://i22.tinypic.com/2llyur7.jpg

yes quite sinister i like it

and i bet the original jerseys didnt have stupid fucking corporate patches all over them

http://i22.tinypic.com/2rmv050.jpg

Is Billick afriad to call a play over 10 yards in length

marble mouth sharpe said on sunday that mcnair can't throw deep anymore so he checks down every play.

d be encouraged if i were an indy fan

yes, i'd be encouraged too if my team just lost at home. playing on the road in new england at the end of january would obviously be a lot more palatable.

i'd be a lot more encouraged as a pats fan knowing that they played their worst game of the season and still beat the 2nd best team in the league on their home turf. or carpet.

i'd be a lot more encouraged as a pats fan knowing that they played their worst game of the season and still beat the 2nd best team in the league + the zebras on their home turf.

11 v 18 srsly dudes

i actually think the cowboys game was probably worse for the pats, but that's just me.

what's kind of fucked up, though, is that 7-1 is the colts WORST start in the past three seasons.

yeah theyve won lots games

i finded out here http://www.geocommons.com/data_set/show/4478 that buffalo is the only team still using the old astro turf. wtf buff man up. yr asking for it. shit.

i didn't see half of the colts game but the numbers addai put up and the turnovers brady had made me think it was their worst game.

I watched the Bills Sunday and their turf looked different from the old school astro turf. It's color was actually close to natural grass. For a team named the Buffalo Bills I think their field should resemble the Great Plains.

that sounds like the new turf - maybe that sites out of data

haha i wrote data instead of date and it sorta made sense

could still be astro-turf. Maybe updated for the 21st century.

tomboto-turf

from wiki

2002

Buffalo Bills install AstroTurf system in Ralph Wilson Stadium.

i shudder to think what they were using in the 1970's. Berber?

i think AstroTurf refers specifically to the proprietary old-style turf. the new kinds are FieldTurf and RealGrass. most nyc park sports fields have this stuff now - its nice n bouncy!

astroturf on the other hand was unbelievably hard. i remember once when i was a kid i went on the boston college field after a game and was kinda disturbed that they actually played football on the stuff.

yeah, i remember playing at georgetown and thinking the same thing. on one hand, i'm sure alumni field is a more sophisticated facility, but w/ actual atro turf fields, it's like comparing shit sandwiches.

remember once when i was a kid i went on the boston college field after a game and was kinda disturbed that they actually played football on the stuff.

same, i remember watching a field hockey game there once and it was even more crazy and more horrifying having that hard-assed ball bouncing around off the concrete. yet 13 year old me could not turn away from skirted co-eds.

same, i remember watching a field hockey game there once and it was even more crazy and more horrifying having that hard-assed ball bouncing around off the concrete. yet 13 year old me could not turn away from skirted co-eds.

-even skirted co-eds at bc?

dag!

it wasn't a scrimage higgy baby.

This thread needs more Shaun Rogers diving into the endzone.

it was the stiff arm that really did it for me