Week 10 - Finally Patriots free

Oh, Monday

SF @ SEA

this is probably a good thing - i need a break from mozzarella stix and drunkenness

wow that monday game is a stiiiinkah

STL @ NO n'awlins taints
BUF @ MIA buffloed builts
JAC @ TEN toss up, but i'll go ten.
CLE @ PIT heart says cleavo, brain says pittsburgers.
PHI @ WAS was not washington
ATL @ CAR carolina stokely carmichaels.
DEN @ KC kansas city missiouris.
MIN @ GB green babies.
CIN @ BAL there is no winner in this game, we all lose. baltimore.
DET @ ARI detroit, detroit, detroit
CHI @ OAK da bares.
SF @ SEA seattle supersonics.
DAL @ NYG
IND @ SD

whoops, giants and indy there.

CLE @ PIT 1:00 PM

ugh, usually a reason to take Monday off work to recover from the inevitable hangover. Browns offense will score maybe 24 but Pitt scores at least 40. Browns have no advantage, except at tight end. I should start drinking now.

Dude, you gotta believe.

Snrub the dream is over. I'll see ya'll in 2008.

Saints over Niners
Bills over Dolphins
Titans over Jags
Browns over Steelers
Skins over Eagles
Panthers over Falcons
Broncos over Chiefs
Packers over Vikings
Bengals over Ravens
Lions over Cards
Bears over Raiders
Cowboys over Giants
Colts over Chargers
Seahawks over Niners

Last week: 12-2

i would like to indulge in mozzerella stick drunkenness

Snrub the dream is over. I'll see ya'll in 2008.

omg don't say that brownie!

Saints
BILLS FUCK YOU DAN MARINO
Tennessee
Pittsburgh but I would be so happy to be wrong
Redskins I guess
Carolina
Kansas City
Minnesota
Ravens
Detroit
Chicago
Giants
Colts
Seahawks

STL @ NO 1:00 PM - saints, baby!
BUF @ MIA 1:00 PM - bills
JAC @ TEN 1:00 PM - titans
CLE @ PIT 1:00 PM - ooooh i dunno, tuff one. stillers if they're healthy tho i could see the browns pulling an upset!
PHI @ WAS 1:00 PM - everyone loses. okay, the iggles lose to the skins.
ATL @ CAR 1:00 PM - ditto for everyone losing. panthers?
DEN @ KC 1:00 PM - chiefs
MIN @ GB 1:00 PM - packers
CIN @ BAL 4:05 PM - i don't see how the ravens could lose but they still might.
DET @ ARI 4:15 PM - another tuff call. cardinals squeak by.
CHI @ OAK 4:15 PM - bears
DAL @ NYG 4:15 PM - giants take two.
IND @ SD 8:15 PM - coltz
SF @ SEA - seahawks shit all over the niners, nobody watches.

i'm going to state here that the dolphins are going to beat the bills in a very close and competitive game.

J0rdan, you know you and I are mortal enemies, right?

i really like the bills! my dad is from buffalo! it's a fun city! it's in my blood! i actually want the bills to win (since the dolphins season is lost and all), but i think the fins have a chance.

you should know that i don't predict the outcomes of games very well.

the dolphins have no chance, brah.

that is tragic, a Dolphins fan rooting for the Bills. have you no sense of place, man?

the "rivalry" doesn't really resonate for me because it basically died before i was even concious of what football wass. along the lines of what you are implying, in no situation would i ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever root for the jets, who for the past, idk, 8 or so years have been the dolphins true hated rival.

oh lol I'm old fair enough.

Dolphins have a chance! Lemon can throw it up there!

JPL has not come along like I thought he would but Lynch is right there as a rookie. Their line is letting them down somewhat with JPL getting the happy feet in the pocket. He's beginning to look Boller-esque.

I visited West Seneca this year so my Buffalo credentials are secure. I hope.

also that division used to be the white helmet place to be. AND I LOVED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. magic

lynch is gonna score 500,000,000,000,000 points, man.

u drunk?

nope! marshawn lynch rules, dude.

500 trillion? not even cankles, bhlobloj and chi k in their opium fueled Moss fantasies can concoct a scenario where their helmeted god can score that many points.

It sounds, for all the world, like boasting.

Winslow on the other hand...

horseshoe, no southside drinks this week, i've got orientation tomorrow but i totally want to rally the logan square chilxors for ls drinks on friday or saturday!

where are you getting oriented, dude?

okay, Kev. logan square drinks sound good!

h, i got a job at u of c. doing it/pre-press work for one of the journals they publish.

good job dude.

Maroons in the house!

I'm old too. That flag on Reed with two minutes to go was some BULLSHIT, man!

500 trillion? not even cankles, bhlobloj and chi k in their opium fueled Moss fantasies can concoct a scenario where their helmeted god can score that many points.

ya it is pretty improbable that randy's point total would be so low~~~

ps. yiff in hell, furfags

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"I'm the dance instructor around here," said the character known as Choo-Choo. "You know, I taught these boys how to dance. They need a little more fun out here, like they need a couple more touchdowns."

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SOMEONE STILL LOVES YOU CLINTON PORTIS

RETURN OF THE MAC

i love you but ive choo-choo chosen portis

the over/under for my beer consumption during tomorrows Stillers/Browns game stands at 9.5

just so you know

So a No Pats weekend has turned the NFL board into a dead zone, inhabited by also-rams (haha) and hungover semi-coherent rust belt chili making Kosar worshippers.

troubled times

The ghost of Leroy Hoard walks haunts these halls.

TOUCHDOWN TOMMY VARDELL ARGHGHGHGHRGHGHRGHGH

Genius Belichick drafts a Stanford fullback with the number one pick.

WHY AM I STILL TALKING ABOUT HIM ON HIS BYE WEEK

what I don't get is how the patriots have been on the cover of SI like six times this season and nothing horrible has happened to them

six six six

reverse curse ;_:

Steelers - Cleveland has improved but I am not yet to the point where I will pick them to upset Pittsburgh.

Packers - Minnesota cannot throw the ball, if Green Bay gets up two scores it will most likely be over as it is not in the dome.

Washington - The Eagles are a mess, but I would not be surprised if they bounced back and won, as the Skins are not all there.

Titans - This one won't be a pretty game to watch.

Carolina - I want to pick the Falcons to upset, but even with the Panthers QB problems, I cannot quite pull the trigger.

KC - Wow the Broncos are terrible! Knowing my luck this season picking games they will bounce back and knock off the Chiefs.

Bills - Logic says that the Dolphins are going to win at some point, but I still like Buffalo.

Saints - NO seems to have righted the ship, so this might be a trap game for them (see above for the Rams).

Ravens - Baltimore's offense is pathetic, but Cincy is a mess.

Bears - I have not seen Oakland play this year, but I get the feeling Chicago is not really that much better.

Giants - This is just emotion, as I really want to see the Cowboys lose.

Lions - OK I get it, I will finally pick Detroit, but knowing my luck Warner will get hot or the Lions will do something stupid and Arizona will win. It still does not feel right picking the Lions on the road.

Indy - I cannot quite figure SD out. Indy is pretty banged up, but I cannot pick the Chargers to upset them although they won the last time they played.

Seattle - The NFC West doesn't really deserve to have a team get into the playoffs.

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beautiful jun jamal lewis.

jun? run.

touchdown.

whoa brownie check out your Browns!

go browns!

(not so much the false start as the kickoff return)

they're at Three Rivers, too, right? awesome.

HUGE penalty.

pittsburgers be idiots.

Mike Tomlin is just too goodlooking to be in his line of work. I'm rooting for the Browns and everything, but damn.

they're at Three Rivers, too, right? awesome.

-- horseshoe, Sunday, 11 November 2007 18:33 (3 minutes ago) Link

three rivers hasn't existed in a while, you mean heinz field.

lol old

Braylon Edwards is a fox.

(this Bills-Dolphins game is pitiful. Losman was just intercepted on the first drive where the Bills got a first down.)

yeah i don't understand how the bills aren't destroying the dolphins. kinda sad.

As a Pittsburgh fan I can only say, "Oh shit."

The Browns are giving me a boner!

tmi, dude.

To go up into the top, the Browns need a win over a team like Pittsburgh.

The only game on here to start is the Packers/Vikings game. Green Bay looks pretty good.

Rams are playing like they might get off the schnide today.

i've got ap and the packers d/st in my other league but i'm watching the pittsburgh/cleveland game. browns are giving me a "little engine that could" vibe over here.

i am still so fucking hungover.

goddamn don't lose this game, Cleveland!

WOW THIS IS THE GAME OF THE WEEK RIGHT HERE!!!

I THINK CRIBBS KEPT HIS FEET IN BOUNDS HOLY SHIT!!!

this game is unbelievable.

what the fuck is wrong with donovan mcnabb? he looks like a fucking rookie this year.

:( Marshawn Lynch is hurt.

Earth to Joe Gibbs, it is no longer 1982, you can no longer run "50 Gut" all the way to the Super Bowl.

wait, what happened to lynch?

I don't know if it's serious, but he came out with an ankle injury a couple plays ago.

re: McNabb...he's got 4 pass tds and 250+ yards today.

omg browns go!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO short kick. :(

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if lynch is out my fantasy team is even more fucked than they already are.

I don't think he's out, stence. apparently he looked okay on the sideline.

also what a heartbreaker that Browns game was.

What a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cleveland's defense played better than I expected. Willie Parker's stats may show over 100 yards, but most of those came on one long run. For most of the game he was held to 2-3 yards a carry. Pittsburgh's lucky their last series didn't kill them with two consecutive, and very predictable, running plays, followed by a Roffle’s sack. It would have been smarter to concentrate on the short, horizontal passing game. Cleveland never really came up with a way to stop it. Derek Anderson completely fell apart in the second half. Yes, Pitt's defense played a part in that, but there were open men down field.

After watching this, there's not really much separating the two teams.
It's good to have a November Cleveland/Pittsburgh game mean something again.

guys Brett Favre is such a drama queen in postgame interviews, all pausing meaningfully and voice quavering with emotion. it was a shutout, dude. how much is there to say?

They switched away from it here before the end. How did Rogers do in the saddle?

shootout in the meadowlands

its clear im the only degenerate gambler here: underdogs went 7-1 in the early games.

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I drank the over on this game.

Cribbs makes we weep with pleasure. :]

Pitt is sandlot football, more power to them. We will play them in the playoffs and win. BLOOD CLAMS

Crennel with the brilliant challenge to make the game 21-6 and then with the bad one that cost us TWO timeouts at the end.

Browns sack Roffles 4 times and not touch DA- he choked flatout.

*DA goes untouched

The Ravens offense is really bad. I think their play calls are off, but I think a big part is their offensive line is pretty bad. McNair's skills have eroded, but I am not as convinced as Randy Cross seems to be that he is the problem.

Like they have been doing all year, Cinci is moving the ball but they are just not getting TDs to go with all of those yards. They seem to have a knack for false starts and bad plays at inopportune times.

earl are you a cincinnatian?

er.. live in Cincinnati?

btw "I Drank the Over" is the name of my next country record.

RE: the Ravens offense. They make me nervous, like nothings ever going to happen but you expect something, anything.

Jesus, Terrell O.

damnit tee oh

xp..yeah, clev at balt next week...would make me nervous even though ravens look deceased, browns playing well, will prob be a close game

christ. would not want to be jon kitna next sunday.

tbh never want to be jon kitna ever but you get the idea.

Browns win next week! this is my message to you

I'm actually not disappointed in the Browns loss, which is the first time I can say that since 1992. WE WILL OVERCOME

I listened to a little of the Baltimore/Cincinnati game. McNair just can't do it with that awful line. Billick must have zero confidence in Boller or think his line's so bad that it doesn't matter whose behind center.

I live in central Kentucky, so the Bengals are the home team and on every week. I grew up in Indiana watching the Bears and Bengals. I hated the Colts for years as once they showed up, Cinci games were never on TV anymore. I got interested in the Colts during Manning's rookie year, as the Bears were so terrible in those days and I thought Mora might turn them around.

My hunches were pretty good, too bad my picks were pretty conservative. It is also a good thing I don't bet money on this stuff.

I knew the freakin' Lions would screw me picking them on the road.

Cincy losing to the Bills last week was pretty big in a way, as that was a team they could and should have beaten. Their schedule is pretty good down the stretch and I could see them putting up some wins. They are now 3 and 6, but I would not be surprised if they finish around 8 and 8 if things go right considering who they play.

wtf with Boller. He's been horrible since day one. The Boller/Billick relationship is like the Belichick/Testaverde one. I would love to see Troy Smith playing... but the Ravens can't throw the towel in ju\st yet.

xpost, thanks earl

btw my niece works at the Corvette plant in Bowling Green. fwiw

oh god Collinsworth just called roffles' performance Elwayesque or whatever. NEVER AGAIN

Chargers wearing the electric blue tonight.

best unis ever

brownie = oracle of otmness

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Still trying to figure out why my market [Little Rock/Pine Bluff] got Washington instead of Rams v. St. Louis.

And I really wish I could've seen that Browns/Steelers game. Maybe I could've made a difference, brownie.

oh Peyton

Go Bolts!

oh shit. Peyton's going to have a long night.

Just knowing that you care PP will carry us to victory in Maryland.

Yours Truly,

Walter Mondale

the bills are 5-4! HS! where have I been. The battle for Lake Erie is now for the WILDCARD.

I know, right? in all honesty, though, your Browns are much, much better than my Bills.

holy shit the Chargers just scored AGAIN.

wow, who was that?

lol @ peyton. u tired?

is a ref docked pay or something for an inadvertant whistle?

They should be. I could tell at real speed that ball never touched the grass.

this game is so crazed

omg omg... omg

jesus this cromartie dude. poor Peyton.

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

lol @ peyton. again.

how can peyton have 4 ints in 16 min? not possible!

soul crushed by soul crushing loss to pats

seriously. he seems really psyched out. maybe he just misses Dally Clark?

yeah, without Marvin and Dallas he's just wandering in the wilderness of the NFL

and the chargers o can do noooothing

yeah, but luckily they have that dude returning kickoffs/returns.

so i didnt see any games today - why a. peterson only get 11 caries?

oh injured, shockingly

yeah, Peyton will ... never be the same. bye Peyton ;_:

SD crowd is pretty mellow compared to the Indy crowd. :-)

shit, it's getting bad now

lol hey peyton howre you liking having shitty recivers - welcome to tom brady's career.

are you fucking kidding me? is Peyton in his right mind?

Maybe he has a concussion too.

he does look confused

Yellow is "projected" stats, orange is actual stats:

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ME: Correct
YAHOO!: RONG

every time he drops back he's trying to go through his reads and realizes he has no idea wtf these people are. not having dallas clark really hurts the colts on offense, possibly worse than missing bob sanders on defense

holy shit this game

this game is ludacrisp

how the fuck is that not pass interference wtf!!!

if that had been the pats last week there wouldve been 7 flags on the field

man, Colts keep going down. Freeney out.

you have to catch that, Aaron Moorehead!

o this gaaaaame

OKAY CRAZY GAME

funny this seems like one of those games between v bad teams

like this is dif than sf v kc how?

I don't know, I listened to Buffalo v. Miami today. This game is better. Really bad teams just play boring games.

yah i guess this is just plain crazy

vinateri missing the game winning fg would be perfect

I feel like Madden and Michaels are on crack. They keep kissing Peyton's ass and this was like his worst game ever.

yah the if manning wins this game it proves his greatness trope makes no fucking sense - like guys it might have something to do w/sd sucking

vinateri missing the game winning fg would be perfect

^^^YES, THIS!!!^^^

and "ive never seen anything like this" only makes sense if they somehow missed that romo game like a month ago where he threw 5 ints and won

wait u guys think they have to kick the field goal on 4th down reaaaaaly omg ! thank u for that commentary

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wow kudos for calling it bhloobloj

BEST GAME EVAR !!!!!!!!

first the moss trade now this i am so psychic

INT INT INT

just 1 more peyton u can do it!

haha almost! ;_;

Good coverage.

okay bhloobloj you are kind of scary

My favorite game of the year so far.

lol call 1-900-jho-shea for advice on yr future

wtf that last throw was awful

wtf that last throw those six throws were awful

a wtf game for the ages

lt was just all wtf in the post game interview

haha what did he say?

the sideline lady was all you dont seem that psyched more wtf and he was all yeah that was totally wtf i didnt expect adam to miss that then he rolled his eyes and wandered off w/o saying goodbye

aw I love LT.

he seemed kinda confused by the winning/sucking dichotomy

Manning: Idiot kickers.

That game nearly killed me. Jesus.

i was in and out of consciousness for most of this game, i saw the beginning and then from about the middle of the third quarter until for a while then woke up on indy's drive where vinatieri missed it. then i missed the last pick.

i approve of this game.

it was good

this seems to be the season where people begin to realize that brady is better than manning not just in a "winning" way but altogether

...when his whole team is better.

lol pats fans think this shit means something

granted I don't ever really remember seeing brady fall apart. going to college with manning I have to say he's got an amazing ability to self-destruct.

That game nearly killed me. Jesus.

-- polyphonic, Monday, November 12, 2007 1:31 AM (Monday, November 12, 2007 1:31 AM) Bookmark Link

i could say the same about the raiders/bears game. by the 3rd quarter i was hoping for an apartment fire or a home invasion or a drive by shooting... something. anything.

lol pats fans think this shit means something

uh not sure if yr just talking abt the one game - but as far as the season no one can really argue that it hasnt tipped the scales toward brady.

I thought Manning played pretty well, all things considered. The Chargers' defense made some spectacular plays to get s few of those picks (especially the last by Cromartie and the one by Phillips). And yeah, maybe Brady played better with bad receivers last year, but his bad receivers were a lot better than Craphonso Thorpe and Aaron Moorehead. Those dudes are terrible.

Meanwhile, Philip Rivers looked like Rex Grossman out there. He has been completely terrible all year.

I thought Manning played pretty well, all things considered.

wtf, on what level is 6 interceptions considered "pretty well"? pop warner if you're under 11 years of age?

Craphonso Thorpe and Aaron Moorehead. Those dudes are terrible.

well, brady's top receiver from last year couldn't even make the squad this year. maybe craphonso and aaron would look like they were better players with a different qb.

well, brady's top receiver from last year couldn't even make the squad this year.

That's partly because the team acquired three star wide receivers and another good one in Kelly Washington. But yeah, Brady had a great season last year with a very mediocre corps, there's no getting around that.

yeah, i'd watch some more of that Championship game before claiming that Reche Caldwell is a better receiver than anyone else.

but OTM about Philip Rivers. why isn't the media coming down on this dude like a million pounds of coal slurry on a small Welsh town?

That's partly because the team acquired three star wide receivers and another good one in Kelly Washington.

i suppose. i guess it would have been more to the point to note that despite being brady's #1 option last year he's barely hung on with washington (zero catches in two games w/8 dnp's).

uh you may have forgotten abt reggie wayne who played last night and is obv better than anyone the pats had last year

and nooooooo one was called dante stallworth or wes welker "star receivers" before they played w/manning. not to mention the consensus on moss was "washed up"

Trust me, I know all about Reche Caldwell. He was pretty mediocre with the Chargers too.

uh before they played w/brady + "calling"

and nooooooo one was called dante stallworth or wes welker "star receivers" before they played w/manning. not to mention the consensus on moss was "washed up"

I guess we're not reading the same articles. Everything I read said that the Patriots had massively upgraded their receivers. Tom Walsh said Moss was washed up (maybe from his B&B) but that's about it.

Stallworth was a first round pick who was never healthy. When he's been on the field, he's always been spectacular. And people were calling the Welker trade a steal from the beginning, especially white east-coast sportswriters.

Yeah, as soon as I heard the Pats got Welker, I thought "oh boy, here we go." I could NEVER figure out why the Dolphins failed to really integrate him into the game in any way other than a returner.

the thing that impresses me most about brady, and I think it comes from practicing with his receivers against belichick's brand of defense, is his timing. this year he's had little trouble in the pocket, probably the best pass rush he's faced was the colts, but he & his targets obviously put in serious reps on the routes and manage to put everything where it needs to be time and time again. you barely see any pats receiver having to juggle on a catch except for moss on deep routes where he's well covered.

manning's got excellent timing with his regular guys as well but not having clark or harrison has obviously hurt him, which speaks to either a lack of proper reps with his 2nd teamers or some other mystery factor about the way they practice or who knows what. for all I know the way the colts first team plays against the cover two is actually some really intense alchemical stuff and gonzales et al. just haven't picked up the routes yet. but as pointed out, welcome to brady's career.

last but not least, I would take the pats' D over the colts' in practically any season from the past decade. it was wholly appropriate that the SI cover after they beat Indy featured all five starting linebackers (all over 30, all producing like mad, again).

Everything I read said that the Patriots had massively upgraded their receivers.

the two aren't mutually exclusive. it gives you some insight into how terrible the pats receivers were last year. bam morris, richochet caldwell, 88 year old troy brown, etc.

wait, bam childress, sorry. i'm flashing back.

was that even his name? fuck, i'm toast today.

bam childress, kelvin kight, chad jackson, and jabar gaffney rounded out the receiving corps(e).

yeah welker and stallworth have zero 1k yard seasons between them and only 1 800+ one. theyre good, but obv not stars.

its funny to hear the descriptions of welker as the season goes on from, fiesty to chrebet-lite to omg best 3rd down hot read dude evar!!!

fiesty to chrebet-lite to omg best 3rd down hot read dude evar!!!

he is having some kind of weird "troy brown crossed with tim dwight" kind of year though.

how much is the brady factor?

it really helps to be constantly hit in stride, and especially when you operate in the middle of the field, to have yr qb never leave you in a fucked up situation

you can't leave out the fact that this year he's playing with all kinds of time. as some other folks pointed out, can't remember if it was on NFLN or FO.com or both or here or what but a BIG difference in the 2nd half against the colts was that they gave the o-line a little more help against the pass rush and boom, production. an extra unhurried 450 milliseconds to reverse momentum from the drop and step into your throw is some important shit. the o-line, receivers and brady are all just functioning like clockwork. run blocking appears to have suffered as a result but hey who gives a fuck?

anyway brady=v.good, but I think I'm more impressedawed by the way the whole team is just a machine this year. it's like watching a bugatti on a test track.

yeah the o line has been nuts in protection (and the whole team is just scary dialed in)

even in the pats-free week the thread becomes alll pats talk!!

are the receivers being scary good this year causing more teams to drop more defenders into coverage vs. sending them on blitzes? last year you could say "fuck it, i'll send the house and let my borderline cornerbacks match up against jabar gaffney and ricochet calldwell. this year you have to keep one safety doubling moss, one playing centerfield, a fith db for welker and one lb for the watson. that leaves you with one corner on stallworth, one lb on the running back and the four rushers.

i think that's why he's had more time, not so much improved play by the o-line, the o-line has more blockers than there are pass rushers this year.

hey good point kevin

i could have made it more clearly but i skipped lunch in favor of cigarettes and more coffee so my brain is popping and snapping and skipping over here.

we are diet bros

we're gonna be ulcer bros by the time we're 40.

one lb for the watson

what does this even mean? "the watson"?

haha all patriots tight ends to now be referred to as the watson

I knew what you meant

i say when ever a pats te outruns a slower linebacker or overpowers a smaller db it should be dubbed "giving him the watson".

IT'S ELEMENTARY!

a big opportunity was missed in not getting Santonio Holmes

LOL SF opens the game with a play the Seattle fans have never seen before: the Darrell Jackson drop

keep losing sf, pats need a top 5 pick next april.

at this pint i think we can reasonably shoot for #2

they. i don't wear a uniform and the kraft family doesn't sign my paycheck.

assuming the pats have a top, say 8 pick, what position do they draft? i'm assuming no one will want to trade with them out of fear of making goliath stronger or for not wanting to look like fools by coming out on the short end of the stick. kind of like how no one would trade with the celtics by the mid 80s after the robert parish & kevin mchale for joe barry carrol heist.

ok well im going to go ahead and shoot for #2 you can do as you like. eh linebackers are old maybe one of those. or maybe some sort of hotshot rb. i dont really follow the college football so i couldnt say whos good.

i was assuming linebacker as everyone is aged back there (the kid from penn state or maybe laurinaitis if he comes out would look good). or maybe a corner given the problems with assante samuel this past offseason.

ha!

WHICH kid from penn state? connor's a senior and lee's a junior. both are pretty beastly.

connor. i get a lot of big ten football here in the midwest, he's impressive.

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