i never even knew that ties were in the rulebook: ~~ WEEK 12 OF GOOD GAMES THREAD ~~

CIN @ PIT seriously someone get pittsburgh off of my goddamned television
HOU @ CLE browns
BUF @ KC buffalo to bounce back
NE @ MIA fishies
CHI @ STL hahaha i mean i guess chicago, they probably are pretty pissed about last sunday
TB @ DET detroit might get shut out this year
NYJ @ TEN i can't believe i'm hoping tennessee will win but jesus do you know how unbearable jets nation will be if they pull off this one? yikes! tennessee because i don't believe god truly hates me
SF @ DAL SAN FRANCISCO ~~pick of wishful thinking~~
MIN @ JAC sorry, minneapolitans
PHI @ BAL philly, possibly.
OAK @ DEN lol @ this. denver
NYG @ ARI SO PSYCHED FOR THIS WEEKS GIF!!! ps giants
CAR @ ATL carolina
WAS @ SEA washington
IND @ SD indy, in some kind of bizarre ref-error fest
GB @ NO monday night football just needs to be banned at this point. going with new orleans since they're at home

OTM re: pittsburghlers on every damned week

im going to the new england- miami game this week! so psyched

everyone please refer back to this totally awz video

so jealous that you are in miami

CIN @ PIT PIT
HOU @ CLE HOU
BUF @ KC BUFFALOZ
NE @ MIA NE IN VENGEFUL SCORE RUNUP
CHI @ STL CHI Worst Game this wk.
TB @ DET TB Worst Game this wk.
NYJ @ TEN TEN in Favre 4th q int festival of fun. As soon as BF has to throw the ball late and not just hand it off in the 3rd and 4th q's...
SF @ DAL DAL
MIN @ JAC MIN
PHI @ BAL NFL's 1st consecutive week tie.
OAK @ DEN OAK may be shut out.
NYG @ ARI NYG
CAR @ ATL CAR worst game this wk.
WAS @ SEA WAS
IND @ SD No good can come from this (IND)
GB @ NO NO in The Return of R3gg1n4ld J. Bu5h IV

CIN @ PIT steelers
HOU @ CLE texans
BUF @ KC buffalol
NE @ MIA can they both lose? dolphins
CHI @ STL bearz
TB @ DET tampa bay
NYJ @ TEN tennessee
SF @ DAL SINGLETARY
MIN @ JAC vikes
PHI @ BAL eagles will find a way to lose this one
OAK @ DEN denver
NYG @ ARI the giants are kind of terrifying
CAR @ ATL falcons!
WAS @ SEA washington
IND @ SD indy
GB @ NO new orleans. my friend was recently at a restaurant in n.o. and drew brees was there eating dinner w/ his offensive line. she said he is, indeed, dreamy but also that his chest is disproportionately hueg

CIN @ PIT Bengals, just because I'm too annoyed to pick PIT right now
HOU @ CLE Texans
BUF @ KC Chiefs
NE @ MIA Pats
CHI @ STL Bears
TB @ DET Bucs
NYJ @ TEN better be the TITANS
SF @ DAL 'Boys
MIN @ JAC Vikes. JAX is useless right now.
PHI @ BAL Ravens
OAK @ DEN Broncos!
NYG @ ARI Giants
CAR @ ATL Falcons need it more
WAS @ SEA 'Skins, barely
IND @ SD What the hell, Chargers
GB @ NO Pack. NOLA is done.

CIN @ PIT i think cincinnati is going to still be too busy laughing @ donovan mcnabb to put up much of a fight here
HOU @ CLE maybe if braylon doesn't drop 5 passes they'll win by double digits
BUF @ KC bills
NE @ MIA miami
CHI @ STL ugh do i look like i give a damn anymore. the bears
TB @ DET schef, lions schedule henceforth: tampa, tennessee, minnesota, indy, new orleans, green bay. i think they are toast unless they can somehow catch minnesota during one of their really bad weeks
NYJ @ TEN i dunno, i'm not feeling this matchup for tennessee but then again favre will throw 6 ints probably so i will go with the tits
SF @ DAL san fran!!!
MIN @ JAC jax
PHI @ BAL "i didn't even know there was a football team in baltimore". philly
OAK @ DEN denver
NYG @ ARI giants
CAR @ ATL atlanta
WAS @ SEA wash
IND @ SD gonna be an ugly one i think. SD
GB @ NO i think the saints b/c they'll be at home and pissed off

CIN @ PIT i predict a gutsy win from ben roethlisberger!!
HOU @ CLE browns
BUF @ KC BEAST MODE
NE @ MIA when was the last time a team beat the pats twice in a season? has it ever happened in the belichick era? i'd like to think the fish can pull it off but their win earlier this year was basically predicated on teh wildcat. we'll see. fuck a matt cassell >_<
CHI @ STL if the bears score 30 pts in this game they should suspend the rams season
TB @ DET ok i'll call it! the lions!!
NYJ @ TEN tennessee is going to manhandle the jets
SF @ DAL haha i predict a cowboys win and an openly weeping singletary during the press conference. either that or he eats an animal raw in the locker room at halftime. maybe both.
MIN @ JAC man what the hell? only peter king could get excited about this nonsense. peterson i guess...
PHI @ BAL iggs i guess? baltimore should just let the eagles get to 3rd and 1 every drive.
OAK @ DEN hahaha
NYG @ ARI NYG run all over them
CAR @ ATL ATL! RODDY! MATTY! (dellhomme: 11-32 102 yds 0 tds 2 ints)
WAS @ SEA skins aren't making the playoffs are they? they'll win here tho i guess
IND @ SD SD. indy is really not good at all this year
GB @ NO GB. if the saints had bush than maybe them...

seriously why is pittsburgh on prime time television literally every single week. i need to know the answer to this.

at least you care about the nfc east! for the rest of us primetime games are like multiple choice test questions:

what are this week's primetime games?

a. giants vs. eagles
b. redskins vs. cowboys
c. giants vs. redskins
d. steelers vs. jaguars
e. two of the above

but yeah the steelers always being on is fucking ridiculous

and if it's not prime time than it's the 4 pm national game on cbs

Whatever this is just NFL network primetime which means if I don't go out on Thursday I don't have to watch it. I do enjoy getting to exercise my hatred for the Steelers at every available opportunity, tho.

there are four (4) mnf games featuring nfc east teams guys, two (2) thursday night game featuring nfc east teams, and five (5) sunday night games featuring nfc east teams, most of which they are playing each other or PITTSBURGH and CLEVELAND, grow up! that is split between 4 teams, not one greedy bastard of a team!

also i had no idea cleveland was on prime time just as much as the steelers -- wtf is this nonsense? who's responsible for that?

also i had no idea cleveland was on prime time just as much as the steelers -- wtf is this nonsense? who's responsible for that?

srsly tho, who is responsible for that? is it worked out b/w the networks and the league? or is it just the league?

(i have the schedule up right now because i am so angry at this pittsburgh-cleveland hegemony and i need to find out how to complain and request FLEX SCHEDULES season long)

i thought they WERE instituting flex schedules, actually -- what happened?

CIN @ PIT Pits
HOU @ CLE Cleave
BUF @ KC Barf
NE @ MIA Nangland
CHI @ STL Chicago
TB @ DET Tampa
NYJ @ TEN Tenn
SF @ DAL SF
MIN @ JAC Minn
PHI @ BAL Balmer
OAK @ DEN Denver
NYG @ ARI Gigantes
CAR @ ATL Atlanta
WAS @ SEA Washington
IND @ SD Bolts
GB @ NO Green Beret

Dallas - 6
Cleveland - 5
Philadelphia - 5
Pittsburgh - 5

^too much

i know there is a cowboys @ steelers game coming up in wk 14 or 15 and i can only assume it will be on every channel including bravo, fX & animal planet

OTM -- this is why flex scheduling is a good idea, cos seriously THREE of those teams have been kind of busted/unaware of tie rules this year.

remember how that giants-patriots game during the regular season was literally on every channel in the entire universe including korean public access?

yet the super bowl got one channel only.

can't they start flexing really soon?

lol @ animal planet

does flex only apply to the sunday night game tho? because really it should apply to mnf and thursday too because wtf are these games.

http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20drudge%20report.GIF WEEK 15 MNF: CLEVELAND @ PHILLY http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20drudge%20report.GIF

^^watching espn 2 all night as a protest

i think flex starts this wk cuz i heard talk of flexing jets/tits but cbs "protected" it like over a month ago which is some good foresight

They already decided against flexing some wretched NFC North matchup.

xpost I don't think you can flex Monday and Thurs because of pre-set travel arrangements.

im not sure on the flex rules, but i imagine that we'll see some flexing of the titans if they win out in the next 2-3 weeks

btw do you guys think that last years' dolphins are going to pop champagne when detroit goes 0-16?

xpost they should be forced to change their travel cos HELL if i wanna watch cleveland-philly, that is some busted ass shit.

between the mnf game choices and their continued insistence on hiring tony kornheiser to say things at the game, i'm pretty much convinced that espn is trying to destroy football.

someone ask donovan abt the flex rules

don't these teams got private jets

next week's monday night game is JAX-HOU?

they either pick the same teams or the worst games

AW HELL NO

also they have tony kornheiser talking during them

Flexing Monday/Thurs games would be deeply fan-unfriendly to the people who actually attend the games. And the fact is, although Card/Niners and Browns/Bills looked like horrible matchups, as individual games they totally had their moments. Granted those moments will not impact division/WC races in much of a meaningful way, but the price you pay for the LEAGUE OF PARITY is at least 50% turnover in playoff teams year to year and no one ever knowing who is any good. Jax/Hou was a cool matchup--in August.

no, it never was

also who are these mythical ppl who are traveling into a far away town for one day only to see a football game?

Ummm have you seen Browns fans recently?

i mean, i have been known to "actually attend games" and changing the game to a monday night would not have inconvenienced me in any way any of the times i've done it. i'm sure there are a small portion of ppl that this would inconvenience but let's not cry too many heartfelt emotion tears here.

xpost...yes...? being as they are on network prime time all of the time.

seriously i just don't understand your point. i DON'T see how switching a game from sunday day to monday night would inconvenience a majority of attending fans, and certainly not that much more than switching a sunday day to a sunday night would do.

yeah flexing the thursday night games might be an issue but i have to imagine that a large portion of ppl who go to games, especially in areas like cleveland, are going to attend the game whether it's on sunday night or monday night or friday morning

Yeah schef but it's not just fans. Putting on a football game is an actual logistical undertaking involving 100s of stadium staff, a bunch of jets, a bunch of hotel rooms, two football teams and dozens and dozens of team staff, a convoy of trucks full of equipment traveling between two major cities, a fucking army of TV and other media people, etc. etc. I agree the league could in theory flex mon/thurs games but I'm guessing it would be a tough economic sell where these things are all booked in advance and would have to be rebooked with something like three weeks' notice.

The league is actually kind of screwed either way it picks these matchups. If they really played it safe, the primetime games would basically be the steelers, pats, colts, jets, the NFC east, and maybe the packers--i.e. teams with a consistently good record or a large fanbase that will watch anyway, and we would all bitch about it. If they try to pick interesting matchups based on how teams did the prior year (which is how you get Bills/Browns and JAX/HOU), we get a variety of teams but a lot of irrelevant games.

CIN @ PIT yinz
HOU @ CLE brownz
BUF @ KC beast mode
NE @ MIA patsies
CHI @ STL bears, unless rex grossman plays in this game
TB @ DET duh
NYJ @ TEN i hate both these teams
SF @ DAL cosign on wishful thinking re: san fran
MIN @ JAC jville
PHI @ BAL joe the flacco
OAK @ DEN who cares (denver)
NYG @ ARI unstoppable eli
CAR @ ATL gonna go with atl.
WAS @ SEA seattle seahawks, your job is NOT your credit. washington
IND @ SD indianapolis super mannings
GB @ NO with my luck this game will somehow be 11-10 right? pack picks off brees x2, green bay.

since we're on the subject of why espn sux, here is a screencap of their website as it currently stands, where dustin pedroia winning the AL MVP gets bumped off the top two headline spots because of awful self-promotion no one cares abotu

http://i35.tinypic.com/2r3lc9y.png

I don't really mind JAX/HOU because I never get to watch those teams and am tired of Steelers every week. We also get pretty much every Cowboys game because there is a shit ton of Dallas fans in DC.

would also like to see Atlanta.

I don't really mind JAX/HOU because I never get to watch those teams and am tired of Steelers every week. We also get pretty much every Cowboys game because there is a shit ton of Dallas fans in DC.

i subscribe to this theory but the teams suck and they should'nt have gambled on the texans. the week 14 mnf game is tampa vs. carolina which will be b/w two not normally nationally televised teams battling for a division lead

espn.com consistently infuriates me, it's so horribly designed and difficult to find anything and it's had the same layout for years

srsly dude but wait until 09 when they are unveiling a whole new "video-based redesign"

i feel like there's 20 primetime steelers and broncos games every year; i would really like to just go one season without seeing a single denver game, anywhere, even if they have to be replaced with nothing but lions games

way too much nfc east on the plate too, yeah

since we're on the subject of why espn sux, here is a screencap of their website as it currently stands, where dustin pedroia winning the AL MVP gets bumped off the top two headline spots because of awful self-promotion no one cares abotu

I bet they're just not done putting their Pedroia feature together yet.

see i will watch any nfc beast division games, can't really complain about that one

At least you know you're usually getting something decent, even if Eagles games have been slow painful death as of late.

steelers are always on tv because they're playing the toughest schedule in the history of the universe (this does not explain cincy or the cleve brownies, but still):

five of their last six have been against 2007 playoff teams
so are three of their next five, plus baltimore

also, they are grebt <3 <3 <3

i would really like to just go one season without seeing a single denver game, anywhere, even if they have to be replaced with nothing but lions games

lol + otm.

and yeah, i would like to see a falcons game one day.

^yes. i cant recall watching the falcons since they won that playoff game in green bay

I bet they're just not done putting their Pedroia feature together yet.

OTM

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0707/supplemental.Draft.Picks.nfl/images/kosar.2.jpg

oh, my sides...million dollar arm? i always laugh at old movies or clips of old sporting events. i mean, old time athlestes and actors just look SO unfit. now, i grant you that bernie pic is just over 20 years old, but STILL!

YESSSSSSSSSS
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oh no, your new york football giants have been exploded!

LIL WAYNE ON THE NFL:

Shout out to Chris Johnson, LenDale White, Kerry Collins and the rest of the Titans for making it to 10-0. You guys are amazing. I'm gonna make a bold prediction right here and say I think they're gonna lose to Detroit on Thanksgiving because even though they're awful this year, Detroit usually always wins on Thanksgiving.

hahahahahaha lil wayne doesn't know that detroit is gonna get shut out this year u_u

what a world where lil wayne can write on espn.com shouting out kerry collins

i don't think detroit usually always wins on thanksgiving, lil wayne

hey schef, did Eli refuse to play for San Diego because he just didn't appreciate SUPER CHARGER DISCO?

Tony Romo buys a movie ticket for a homeless man. When did begin Romo his quest to become the world's most decent person?

that's the jock-charity equivalent of a 300.00 stimulus check

guys clevo is on all the time because they draw the big ratings and you can't spell "big ratowngs" without browns.

how did the bum recognize romo?

CIN @ PIT steelers
HOU @ CLE Lake Erie Browns
BUF @ KC Bills
NE @ MIA Fish
CHI @ STL Bears
TB @ DET Bucs
NYJ @ TEN Titans-they're actually a pretty good team
SF @ DAL Cowboys 31-14 tony romo you're no Rog. Starbuck
MIN @ JAC Jags
PHI @ BAL Ravens
OAK @ DEN Broncos
NYG @ ARI Giants in a close one
CAR @ ATL Falcons
WAS @ SEA Native Americans
IND @ SD Indie
GB @ NO Saints 45-31

hey schef, did Eli refuse to play for San Diego because he just didn't appreciate SUPER CHARGER DISCO?

― T-PALIN (daria-g), Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:46 PM (Yesterday)

valid question. i'm just assuming he was unaware of the san diego super chargers disco song.

also tony romo, what the fuck?

who is his publicist

i am disillusioned with this so-called national football league after last week's craziness (yes i am bummed about the Pats losing and yes i lost some $, what's yr point, it was a dumb round of games). but i am nothing if not gracious and accommodating, so i will do this week's games the undeserved favor of assuming that they will happen on our usual plane of existence, and not in some dumb bizzarro dimension.

CIN @ PIT Bengals surely already daydreaming about their off-season crack binges
HOU @ CLE i feel like Houston less respect that they deserve, but even so i don't see them winning here
BUF @ KC this will be a good litmus test to see how far the rot has really set in for Buffalo's Bills
NE @ MIA BB gonna fuck up your novelty offense real good *please*
CHI @ STL Bears be all mad
TB @ DET not a good match up for Lions as Tampa team not made up of disabled teenage girls
NYJ @ TEN Jets should wear throwbacks for TITANS OFF. they better not win this
SF @ DAL Boys back to some extent, with ample time to turn things around, hit the playoffs and piss everyone off
MIN @ JAC Jax are patently dump, but Vikes don't seem to win these games
PHI @ BAL Bollymore. Philly got nuttin. time to shoot Andy Reid and start over
OAK @ DEN would not pause from eating my sandwich if I saw Oakland had won this tho
NYG @ ARI probably the Giants, fuckin assholes
CAR @ ATL Dallas reaching the playoffs is going to suck double hard as it will end up being at ATL's expense
WAS @ SEA Shithawks
IND @ SD wish Indy would stop winning games
GB @ NO sensible money is on resurgent Pack, which is why Saints will win 50-3 or something stupid

Pit > Cin
Cle > Hou
Dal > SF
TB > Det
Tenn > Jets
Buff > KC
Chi > StL
NE > Mia
Jax > Minn
Phi > Bal
Den > Oak
Car > Atl
NYG > AZ
Wash > Sea
Ind > SD
NO > GB

so snowstorm during steelers game 2night?

This is not a good start for a week of good games.

no one dares pick the jets

I will be moving to Seattle next year but not looking forward to their team. (and that bummer of a bird on the helmet)

http://www.firstandtensportsden.com/store/images/product_images/VINYLMAGNET-SEAHAWKS.jpg

CIN @ PIT picking Steelers by 17. Glad I don't have cable
HOU @ CLE even I am depressed about this game - Browns
BUF @ KC but not as depressed as your typical bills fan - Chiefs
NE @ MIA would watch this game if it was on locally - Miami
CHI @ STL RAMS/BEARS sounds like a great old school matchup. Bears.
TB @ DET Detroit will cover the spread but lose
NYJ @ TEN J_E-T_S
SF @ DAL Dallas
MIN @ JAC Jacksonbillies lose
PHI @ BAL philly, hopefully
OAK @ DEN not sure why I bet Oakland every weekend
NYG @ ARI Giants, but Cardinals.gif was a letdown they deserve to lose
CAR @ ATL carolina
WAS @ SEA washington
IND @ SD indy, in some kind of bizarre schef-error fest
GB @ NO glad I don't have cable. NO.

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http://deadspin.com/5093632/browns-gm-phil-savage-responds-to-email-hecklers-swiftly-but-not-very-politely-update

nice

^That was on the front page of the sport page today. Cleveland Browns fans are by and large completely redonk.

The guy who sent the email to Savage was on a sports talk show yesterday and said he was "highly embarrassed" by the whole thing. I believe this marks the first time in history a Browns fan has been embarrassed by his actions.

Go root for Buffalo-f#@* you-

^^^ next week's title

the whole thing blows my mind, just because it would never occur to me to email my favorite team's GM and expect any kind of response at all - tho really i'm not even sure how i would get my favorite team's GM's email address either

Timeline according to the paper:

11:37 - fan emails Savage ripping the Browns (despite the fact they were winning at the time)

12:17 - Savage replys "Go Root for the Bills - Fuck You" (23 minutes after the game had ended)

The fan's name was Brett, which leads me to believe this was another typical Favre prank.

there was indications in the story that this is not the first time "brett" has harrassed them via email

would love to get Crennel wired up during games taking emails and putting half of cleveland asleep

"We're playing Brady Quinn with a broken finger because the doctor said he could play. If the doctor said he couldn't play then we would not play him."

CIN @ PIT - It really wasn't like I was going to take Cinci.
HOU @ CLE - I'd say if you combine the strain of losing the Oilers to how the Texans have been as a franchise, there is some similar angst between both fanbases. Rosenfeld's is pretty much 0-2 against the Colts on his own, not that Cleveland fans don't have a hate love affection for their QB. I'm still not sold on Quinn, Rick Mirer looked pretty good for a few weeks too before the truth sunk in.
BUF @ KC - The Bills should win.
NE @ MIA - Urr...this one is kind of a toughie, I'll go NE but I don't feel confident about it. I keep thinking that maybe losing Maroney was kind of a tipping point. It didn't become evident right after it happened, but they could use a back that could bust big plays.
CHI @ STL - The Bears got their asses kicked last week, this one kind of says where they are going.
TB @ DET - Tampa kind of plays ugly, so I could see how Detroit could maybe win, but the Bucs are also kind of quietly rolling along so probably not.
NYJ @ TEN - God I hope Tennessee wins, if not ESPN and the football industrial complex will not shut up about it for the next week or two.
SF @ DAL - I've got long term issues with the 49ers, but I would not mind if they knocked off the Cowboys. I'll pull for a tie.
MIN @ JAC - The Jags are not right, while Minnesota is kind of a flawed club, I'm thinking they could win this one on the road.
PHI @ BAL - I'm going with the Eagles, mostly as Baltimore has probably been playing a bit above their station and Philly a bit below.
OAK @ DEN - Cutler's arm is freaking epic.
NYG @ ARI - Arizona gets another chance to step up, but I think Warner is going to end up getting sacked a half dozen times and the Giants will pummel them. It won't be a pretty score, maybe something like 19-13.
CAR @ ATL - I really don't know either of these clubs. Atlanta looked pretty good against the Bears, but that was a month back. Pick em...
WAS @ SEA - Washington should out class them, but for some reason (not logic) I feel Seattle might make this one interesting.
IND @ SD - SD usually plays the Colts well and has given Manning some fits with their pass rush, but I'm pulling for Indy. One of these weeks Manning is going to hit on all of those just missed deep passes and they will drop 40+ on a club. It might not be this week, but the Chargers deffense doesn't seem to be the same.
GB @ NO - The couple of times I have seen the Packers, they have played excellent, but teams have run on them a bunch. I could see this one being a shoot out. Packers seem more together than the Saints to me.

I keep thinking that maybe losing drafting Maroney was kind of a tipping point. It didn't become evident right after it happened, but they could use a back that could bust big plays.

Please, dear football gods, humiliate Brett Farve, make him throw interceptions, sack him, make him not have fun.

I saw like 10 bears fans on my way to breakfast. probably not a good sign for the "home" team.

can't believe I have another #)*(%&) JETS game on

dear philly and baltimore:

what the hell is wrong with you?

<3
ally

dear TAMPA BAY..

been watching titans-jets.. collins not getting a lot of help from his receivers, 4 dropped passes already i could swear

heh, jets 2nd turnover. way to go favre

24 points allowed = best 1st half showing in 3 weeks for rams D!

detroit remembered they were detroit, i guess?

http://www.buffalobillsproshop.com/images/products/large/mckelvin.jpg

donovan benched, didn't know nfl had kevin kolbs

o rly? ha.

meanwhile, tennessee offense: zzzzzzzzzzzz

ok, are the refs trying to convince andy reid that this is a terrible idea? or does reid not know the rulebook either.. LOL

i still can't get my head around the fact that the jets are good? TN is done here

the jets will prove themselves to be a regrettable part of NFL history. Mark my words.

re: rulebook

all the crazy coaches team's have, you'd think they have something like a "legal advisor." like, someone's whose job it is to just know the nfl rulebook cold.

guess i picked the right time to start following the jets again ;)

is any early game still in doubt? time for late games to start

matty castle put up some #'s wow

yeah, i also can't get my head around the fact that i drafted brady @ first round of fantasy league, was like OH SHIT i'm done, picked up cassel out of loyalty & now i am pretty much owning everyone this week

matt had over 400 yards last week too against these new york jets who are apparently good

FITE!

Crowder and Light ejected

oooh, hair pulling and WWE-style pretend punching from Matt Light. good stuff.

i can't believe i have the effin eagles/ravens instead of new england. should have gone to a bar.

yeah, it has been a pretty awesome game dude. would be a great weekend's football if Jets hadn't decided to be such contrary cunts.

lololololol @ eagles

btw, re those Cassel numbers - first ever back-to-back 400 yard passing games in Pats history (first in NFL since 2002 i think they said), first ever back-to-back 500 yards total offense in Pats history. he has beena lot better today than vs the Jets last week.

wau, what?! that's a record, 108 yards (bmore)

Way to go Tennessee. How many pass interference calls can one team get in a game?

i'm so glad NE finally freed randy moss

LOL, Pats running up the score at 4th and Goal on Miami again, purely to piss off Joey Porter.

heh. yeah porter got a flag for unsportsmanlike in between plays! just for whatever he said to the refs out there?

cassel is going to make $$$$$$$$ after this season

cassel is going to make $$$$ after this season

DEREK ANDERSON, NEVER FORGET

ugh what a Texans/Browns game. Browns bench Quinn after he threw two interceptions in a row. Quinns passer rating was 21 and Anderson's was 17. Jamal Lewis hasn't fumbled once this year and fumbles twice in this game.

Sage Rosenkranz was a thing of sublime perfection thanks to a defense that refuses to play anywhere near the receiver.

oh and Braylon Edwards dropped at least three passes

lol quinn/anderson QB rating vs. mcnabb/kolb (13/15 btw)...tho at least that's vs. the ravens

they benched quinn that fast? good lord.

rogermexico otm as usual. LEODIS

woah 54 points!!! buflalof's back in it baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw guys the fox robot is playing guitar now - nnnnnggg http://www.circletheatre.com/misery/misery_images/MISERY1.jpg

What the hell was I thinking picking Philly in the pick'em league? TILT.

i never ever pick philly in close games anymore - they've fucked me too many times

fox robot is a really good guitarist

lol wtg cardingnals

i do not understand the free kick rules

haha the wikipedia article for fair catch kick has already been updated

tiny circus hands u_u

Bills are 6-2 with journeyman possession receiver Josh Reed aka "Justin Armour minus the hands," 0-3 without.

you know, i would really love it if now and again, the redskins won a game THAT IS NOT CLOSE so i wouldn't get all stressed about it

Trust me, blowouts are much less fun (but they provide a great opportunity to wash laundry).

things i learned about football today

-leon washington looks like skinny cedric the entertainer
-mangini looks like the penguin

truth bomb: i spent most of last year's super bowl washing laundry. srsly. i was like, this is not going to end well. now every time i go in the damn laundry room i think about that game!

- clinton portis still rules
- our local redskins postgame show is great b/c the hosts are all former skins, so they & the current players spend every interview just busting on each other

brian mitchell & shawn springs (i think) just comparing hat sizes & telling each other they had swelled heads.

what is on tonight, chargers/colts?

the browns forum I'm reading is referring to Braylon as Edwards Scissorhands

guys how does one bench andy reid?

24: REDEMPTION was awz tonight it made me forget about the dumb colts game thank god

cassell was great today >:(

keeps so many drives alive w/ his feet. if i didn't hate both teams/coaches i'd be rooting for a jets/pats afc title game right now

well ill root for it if it means that the giants get to beat the winner

i'm pissed we didn't get that game in DC.

this indy/sd game is not that interesting, however, they did play the super chargers song just now!

denver has no business being in the playoffs, what the hell. afc WORST

my christ almighty we are going to be stuck with a "subway series" lol superbowl aren't we.

PEYTON PLEASE MAN UP (LOL) AND GET INTO THE SUPER BOWL AND HAVE US OUR MANNING BOWL. SAVE US FROM FAVRE.

oh man san di ay go!!! super chaaaaar jerrrzzzz!!! ELECTRICITY SOUND OF GUITAR THROUGH ECHOPLEX super chaaar jerrzzzz! never not fun, kids

guys how does one bench andy reid?

gonna need a pretty big bench amirite?

hey what's up andy reid hows yr bucket doing?

http://beldar.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/03/walrus_bucket2.jpg

can you hear the SUPER CHARGERS DISCO playing in that stadium right now?

subway super bowl would be awz

no it wouldn't the fucking jets would be playing in it

pros:

- giants win, jets fans are lol sad and favre falls short again
- jets win and packers fans become suicidal

cons:
- jets win. jets fans

like the jets would win.

it appears as if the super bowl is going to involve either the pats, the jets or the steelers so it's a lose-lose-lose for ilnfl

or the colts *vomit*

omg the tragedy of the one link measurement

xpost colts in super bowl means eli finally vanquishes the spectre of his celebrity spokesmans brother.

omg super chargers -- NONE OF YOU were watching marvin harrison??? seriously?

crossing route was a great call... everyone was gonna be bunched up by the line so jammer running into someone was inevitable

btw this is not the first time the colts and super chargers have had a sunday night game go down to a vinatieri field goal right?

hey i want the pats back in the superbowl!

hah, take that norv turner

guys...what is up with norv turner's neck? for serious.

his turkey neck is in spirit of our upcoming holiday duh!!

it makes me ill to look at it. his face is normal(ish) but then...omg what is the nightmare underneath?

this was a pretty grrrrrreat day guys. mainly because fuck the chargers and the titans. and lol detroit, you had a lead once.

that honey nut cheerios advert really pisses me off. smug bastards.

if the Colts get to the super bowl this year i'll turn my back on this dumb league. i'm not worried about the Jets because they will get dumped on their ass at the first playoff hurdle - that's just the way it goes.

??? what world are you guys living in where the jets are super bowl contenders and not, y'know, the jets

can't wait to see what excuses the football outsiders dudes come up with this tuesday. HMMMM. HOW TO EXPLAIN EAGLES. TANIER?

FAVRE PROBLEM REVEALED: PLAYING IN NFC

haha the great thing is, tanier is always the one trying to explain to the rest of the FO douches (read: barnwell) why the eagles suck and dvoa is wrong and why reid should be fired blublublub, while the other guys are all "idk man the stats just dont bear it out~~~~"

i'm guessing philly doesnt take a big hit bcz they were playing baltisnooze who are like 4th in dvoa - still, what a dumb dogshit team i hate them all so much

btw I find it kind of sad and also educational that the way to beat the titans turned out to be man coverage in the backfield while stacking the line against the run. Welcome to, I don't know, pick a past decade. Jeff Fisher has been weighed and found wanting. OTOH it does prove that playing old school bullshit with half-talented players can win you a hell of a bunch of games even in MADDEN 09 times

what are you talkin about dude

i am pretty sure after randy moss 2nd TD catch today he winds up @ the back wall behind the end zone and a bunch of dolphins fans are patting him on the back

did anyone watch the grey cup btw (not this dude, but... i'm sure someone must've)

??? what world are you guys living in where the jets are super bowl contenders and not, y'know, the jets

― dj2xdee (cankles), Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:29 PM (11 minutes ago)

the world of today's afc i mean do you see these clowns that were on sunday night game.

now we're watching body of evidence on ifc.

tombot u actin like there's some massive gulf between the titans style of ballin vs the giants - aint happenin my dude. giants obv way better in passing game but the downhill power-run based attack is a valid way to build a team and a winning one cf. a shitload of teams this year, you can't write off the titans as 'half-talented' either wtf?

btw you really need to put that loss as much on the defense that shit the bed versus LORD FAVRE

yeah i mean... the jets will be in the playoffs and can even beat some fools once there, but otoh... the jets!!!! c'mon man :(

cards goin all the way btw warner 4 mvp, 3 time mvp will stamp his ticket into canton woo!!!!!!!

i mean why is willem dafoe even in this movie. why is brett favre still playing. why does andy reid still have a job. there's just a lot of questions.

xpost favre is a clown. i'm sorry, but it had to be said. the dude has a great arm. the dude has limited control over such arm. it's like will smith in i robot, except a drug-addicted good ol' boy instead of a chuck taylors-obsessed robot hater.

well, i mean favre might hate robots too.

xpost again dude trust me i'm not hoping for this, nor do i necessarily think it's an actuality -- i do think they're highly, easily beatable thanks to lord favre's touchy arm and the fact that they're the jets. but i'm concerned as to who in the afc can actually do this because, god, seriously, what happened to you guys. steelers are more likely, still. neither of these teams will beat the giants which means i will have to get a goddamned giants tattoo thanks to my drunken betting.

xxxpost again the cards are a cursed franchised with a cursed gay bird on their helmet and a cursed ownership and a stadium full of bandwagon cursed fans who live in a terrible hell inferno ghetto -- they will never go the super bowl.

(in the span of time that it took to watch that post we stopped watching body of evidence -- despite the fact that willem dafoe and madonna were naked fucking -- and put on arrested development. that is how long that post took)

pats NEARLY beat them.. NE defense isn't that great either. pittsburgh i could see it

redskins gonna beat u guys next week schef :)

those are all salient points goon sire

i guess this is all i got now

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yaaaaaaaaaaaow isn't IFC supposed to be good independent film?

i really enjoy the targeted marketing for AUSTRALIA THE MOTION PICTURE btw - depending on what channel u watching it is either a romantical fagfest starring nicole kidman and a lil bit of hugh jackman, or hugh jackman IS dirty harry in the outback

washington post sports blog commenters break it down for you:
So 2 rookie head coaches go in today and beat their mentor. Both mentors are big fat guys with a weird fuzzy thing above their lip.

man you kids are highly attuned for this late on a sunday night
anyway canks I'm sorry if you didn't think fisher's method wasn't due for an embarrassing loss or whatever. The fuck I care if the jets go anywhere in the postseason - anybody who cares about NFL football cares about seeing #4 retire, take his beige alpaca blazer and go home - but the titans even pretending to some kinda undefeated elite status is nonsense. I mean whatever go play those teams names after cats and horses and pirates a few more times. big win. kerry collins.

I'm really more concerned with how andy reid still has a job. he's dragging down the whole division with his incompetence. Hello dude there is a six flags jackass down the road who is trying to be the east coast al davis as hard as he can, you are making him look good, what in the jesus fucking christo fuck a goat fuck for real

this is kinda what i was saying earlier minus the al davis and the goat fucking. you can bench every member of the eagles, but the problem is the play calling. why he keep calling deep balls (L O L) on 3rd and 1? it's like clockwork. every goddamned 3rd and 1, you know they're airing it out. AND THE CLOCK MANAGEMENT my god it makes the giants' consistent delay of games look like the 80s 49ers for god's sake. andy reid just isn't...well. they need something else. the controversial t.o. "the team gave up" super bowl? the team didn't give up! their coach is just unable to manage a 60 minute game.

ps now i'm watching the colbert christmas special.

yeah andy reid is just... dang, dude. andy reid.

look doggie i dont think the titans are that good or nothin, no surprise they finally got cornholed, but casting it as some kinda FISH STUCK IN STONE AGE LOL GET A REAL SCHEME thing just dont work imo

tangentially, i have been wondering this since vince was benched - how much would the average titans fan hate it if THIS was the team that won the SB? is there a less likable core of players than lendale, k collins and haynesworth? can u imagine steve mcnair sitting on his couch watching that shit? shame on a nigga ~_~

chris johnson is pretty awesome

oh hell i agree with this -- the titans are a good team! they're not as good as their record but they're real good so this whole old schemes get sonned doesn't really work imo either?

but i'm still so against them because kerry collins? fuck you! you were so not good w the giants! (see also: k. warner. god and alcohol: one and the same?)

ya i elected to leave him out, and it's impossible not to love my dude algernon, moot point since titans will be 1 and done anyway

also guys i just GIS'd 'neckbeard' (pause, n/h) for reasons unrelated to football and this was one of the results

http://www.purdue.edu/jumbo/covers/covers_medium/18_kyle_orton.jpg

seriously tho kerry collins is a dude we're talkin about, let's not even mention favre -- is this a pre-9/11 world?

i like kerry because he still looks like an alcoholic

collins favre warner!!!!!!! i think simmons was onto something when he said this season parallels 2002, at least as far as being some anomalous shit (GANNON MVP PIRATE BOWL WAIT WUT WAS IT ALL A DREAM) that should be forgotten as soon as it ends

eisen just compared trent edwards to guy from TWILIGHT, he then goads mooch into admitting he's already seen it

"i still can't get my head around the fact that the jets are good?"

Don't worry, I'm sure they will come back to Earth next year. For the better part of the last 10 years or so, it seems that the Jets will have about one good year and then slide back into mediocrity. They appeared to be getting good with Parcells with Vinnie at the helm, then they slid off. Then they appeared to be getting good with Herm and Chad, then they slid off. They never seem to be able to sustain much success season to season.

They have only had back to back 10 win years twice in their history, one was with the Namath team and the last was in the mid 80s when they had the sack exchange with Mark Gastineau and Joe Klecko.

"but i'm still so against them because kerry collins? fuck you! you were so not good w the giants!"

Kerry Collins really was more of a scapegoat of a club that had bunches of talent and absolutely no discipline. That offensive line used to get penalties like they were going out of style, Barber was a fumbler and then you had goats like Shockey who could pull off great plays but then do stuff that was abysmally stupid. Collins wasn't great, but he was solid, but then he went into the Raider black hole, but I think the guy could still play in the right circumstance, which is what he is proving.

The vet QB resurfacing thing happens quite a bit.

Jim Plunkett - two Superbowl wins
Randall Cunningham - NFL MVP
Rich Gannon - NFL MVP
Kurt Warner - this year...
Tommy Maddox - Didn't last long or nearly as great, but the dude came out of nowhere.

Vinny Testaverde was also left out for scrap a couple of times and came back and back. (In hindsight, probably not the best move the Baltimore did.)
Doug Williams also came out of nowhere to win a Superbowl long after his best seasons too.

i like kerry because he still looks like an alcoholic

^^^ otm, i actually didn't know that, but this is completely true.

The Giants and Titans are about the same club with a power running game and killer defensive line. I think the Giants have a bit more of a deep passing game as their wide outs are better, but that is really about the only difference. Not too surprising considering there are ties to the 80s Bears and Giants clubs in their coaches, which were about the same type teams.

yo I have had too many delicious beeeeeerrrzzz to try and read all the science you folks just dropped, but just right now That Fucker Eisen just called Eli the MVP. WTF dude I HATE the fucking pats and even I have the sack to call it like it is, if you gotta be all fantasy gay and call another QB an MVP, call it how it is, shit, man. If Tom Fucking Homo Brady ain't damaged goods then this season isn't even about THE FAVRE EFFECT. So depending on how you see your job as a sports dickwad. either Future HOFer Brady or the nameless DL who killed him is the MVP. Don't pretend to fuck with me. This is how history gets fucked up. LYNDON JOHNSON, GREATEST FANTASY PICK EVER.

uggh

wow so drunkalso I luv u earlnash but the titans defense is about 1/5th of the giants'

hey tom werent you supposed to become WORLDS BIGGEST JAGS FAN WAH-HAY this year

Yeah I did and it worked out great, why?

how's the national guard, btw?

eisen just compared trent edwards to guy from TWILIGHT, he then goads mooch into admitting he's already seen it

― cankles, Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! i have to find this clip.

i hate to be predictable, but didn't kerry collins cause a scandal back when he was drunky by using racial slurs or something? fuck that dude.

yeah he is the elvis costello of nfl QBs

(looks like a hobo, drops n-bombs in bars while drunk)

haha i was actually thinking i am a total hypocrite as i typed that because i still love elvis costello. :(

i feel like i should be able to figure it out, but how is trent edwards like a dude from twilight?

he was dressed to the nines in the post game presser and was real slick and pretty lookin

dude from twilight is none of those things, rich eisen! i guess edwards isn't bad-looking; it hadn't really occurred to me before.

he looks a litttle vampiric here:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/354457.jpg

http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/videos/trent-edwards-post-game-press-conference/b1376fd2-9cf9-4033-b89b-e6676562d095

his noncommittal facial hair is the problem for me, i think. i admire that four-pointed handkerchief, though. the part where he realizes he has to pretend to be confident even when he's not is sort of heartbreaking! he seems like a nice young man.

RIP 2008 Chargers

did anyone watch the grey cup btw (not this dude, but... i'm sure someone must've)

― dj2xdee (cankles), Monday, November 24, 2008 4:40 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i actually did! well some of it. 3 down football is crazy. plus mtl scored a point by kicking a punt into the end zone but essentially that swung ALL the momentum cuz CGY was then given the ball on the 35! we had no idea what was happening!!

xxxpost again the cards are a cursed franchised with a cursed gay bird on their helmet and a cursed ownership and a stadium full of bandwagon cursed fans who live in a terrible hell inferno ghetto -- they will never go the super bowl.

^^OTM x 1000000000000

What I thought was interesting is how much the Jets looked like the 2007 Packers. Farve wasn't throwing bombs all over the place, never a good thing, but making a lot of short drop 10-15 yard passes and letting the receivers make yardage after the catch. As long as they stay in that scheme they look fine, when they don't its interception time.

Good God, the browns are sad. I'm surprised there haven't been mass suicides in Cleveland. That city has some of the best, most loyal fans in the NFL, and every year they get completed screwed.

The Browns are making me consider a move to the Island of Doctor Morbius where football has been outlawed and feral cheerleaders roam the island in packs, hunted like vermin...

OK it's half a day later and I'm still furious about the end of the Colts/Chargers game. Exactly the kind of tacky, bullshit win the Colts have been specializing in for years against a team that could easily beat them save for coaching/guaranteed 4th quarter flameouts. HEY NORV--if you are that mad about kicking a FG maybe you should just go for it!

Indy's clock management is absolutely superlative, I will give them that.

norv turner is an argument against HD televisions

i would have been posting like a motherfucker yesterday but it was my bday and i was partying elsewhere. this week was awesome imo.

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so this is where I lol heartily at everyone who picked Jacksonville

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

and everyone who picked DENVER, didn't everyone here pick denver? what WAS that?

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yo I have had too many delicious beeeeeerrrzzz to try and read all the science you folks just dropped, but just right now That Fucker Eisen just called Eli the MVP. WTF dude I HATE the fucking pats and even I have the sack to call it like it is, if you gotta be all fantasy gay and call another QB an MVP, call it how it is, shit, man. If Tom Fucking Homo Brady ain't damaged goods then this season isn't even about THE FAVRE EFFECT. So depending on how you see your job as a sports dickwad. either Future HOFer Brady or the nameless DL who killed him is the MVP. Don't pretend to fuck with me. This is how history gets fucked up. LYNDON JOHNSON, GREATEST FANTASY PICK EVER.

seriously what the fuck does this even mean

also guys i had to leave my house right before halftime to travel to a pie party (don't ask) and missed the amazing neil rackers free kick field goal debacle during the cards-giants game! what the hell?

kurt warner is "on pace" for 5100 yds, which is nuts.

free kick had me scrambling for the NFL rulebook

the rule is: anytime a player calls for a fair catch the fair catching team can then do free kick from that spot. completely bizarre rule

btw i would like to again state that while i hate the pats and warner is a douche, i have to lol @ the "matt cassel = hero" vs "leinart holds the clipboard, palmer scuffles in cincy" usc-to-nfl storyline. though i hate all those dudes too, fuck usc.

OAK @ DEN not sure why I bet Oakland every weekend

-brownie prediction

heckuva job

yo I have had too many delicious beeeeeerrrzzz to try and read all the science you folks just dropped, but just right now That Fucker Eisen just called Eli the MVP. WTF dude I HATE the fucking pats and even I have the sack to call it like it is, if you gotta be all fantasy gay and call another QB an MVP, call it how it is, shit, man. If Tom Fucking Homo Brady ain't damaged goods then this season isn't even about THE FAVRE EFFECT. So depending on how you see your job as a sports dickwad. either Future HOFer Brady or the nameless DL who killed him is the MVP. Don't pretend to fuck with me. This is how history gets fucked up. LYNDON JOHNSON, GREATEST FANTASY PICK EVER.

vs

Fair Catch/Free Kick rule

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guys the montreal alouettes scored one (1) point in the second half of the grey cup final yesterday. someone explain?

Damon Duval 63 yd punt single

^^^not helpful

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response from 'nucker friend of mine:

This is one of the great features of the Canadian game. If a football is kicked into the endzone (punt or missed field goal) the opposing team must run it out. If they don’t or it’s kicked through the endzone then the kicking team gets 1 point (officially called a rouge but commonly called a single). The opposing team then gets the ball on the 35 yard line. Many a game has been decided when the kicking team misses a field goal and the opposing team punts it out of their own end zone as clock expires.

man I was like channeling RaiderJoe on here last night

Now that the Chargers are done I have decided to adopt the Atlanta Falcons for the remainder of the season. Cankles, give me all of your Atlanta bandwagon information.

i tried to work backwards and got Brady = Kennedy, Johnson = Cassel, Harvey Oswald as the lone lineman but the FAVRE EEFECT stopped me (Gulf of Tonkin?)

xpost

that 1pt punt in the grey cup was wild. the punter was trying to angle it out of bounds inside the 10 and was pissed at himself...my mind boggled at the strategic implications...

the alouettes coach looked like a child molester so i was rooting for calgary

this monday game is wild! brees has all day

Just signing on to say I <3 Brees. Guy's a champ in search of a decent team.

the fact that i hear voice over legend and confirmed dead man don la fontane doing the v.o. for mitsubishi commercials makes me sad

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well done

Harrington's not even getting the garbage time snaps

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uuumm

hahahahaha excellent job copy team

lollll

he's like catnip for the black fanbase

blacknip

thread connections from the Washington Post homepage today...

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dammit

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