09-10 ncaa football thread

2 days away! got some good wk 1 games. really looking fwd 2 oregon @ BSU on the blue field

I'm interested to see the triple option at work by Navy against Ohio State.

Excited about Cal/Maryland this weekend. I hear Ralph Friedgen lost a bunch of weight!

VT/Tide of course. Haven't looked at the rest of the schedule, tbh, because I know I'll watch whatever's on regardless.

OU/BYU, GA/OK st are the other marquee matchups but, yeah, im down to see everything

Why are you guys talking about non Florida football when Jesus himself will ultimately lead the team to complete and total victory

I'm IN Florida. You think I don't hear enough talk about that?

So Jagodinski got fired by Boston College for interviewing for the Jets head coaching job, didn't get the job, got hired as OC for the Jaguars, and then got dismissed from that job too!

oops.

If he sits tight, he might get the Gamecocks if Spurrier stinks up this season.

oc for the bucs u mean. wouldve been too much if jagz was oc for the jags

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/03/jagodzinski-not-equipped-to-direct-nfl-offense/

^makes me wonder how he got hired, what interview went like, etc

Looking forward to watching the ugly bowl tonight. The uniforms of Oregon vs. the field of Boise State.

The uniforms of Oregon vs. the field of Boise State.

Oh dam, really? I'm gonna have to watch that with sunglasses.

wouldve been too much if jagz was oc for the jags

Yeah, that's what messed up my brain there.

Nice sucker punch Oregon. Stay classy.

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wow holy shit

Man, I can watch that forever.

great punch, shame he's gonna be suspended for like ever now

Pac-10 reviewing Oregon RB Blount's actions

By ANNE M. PETERSON (AP) – 1 hour ago

The Pac-10 Conference will review tape of a punch thrown by Oregon running back LeGarrette Blount following the Ducks' loss to Boise State in the season opener Thursday night.

Pac-10 spokesman Jim Muldoon said commissioner Larry Scott was on his way back Friday morning from Boise, where he attended the game and saw the altercation.

"The commissioner has broad authority concerning misconduct," Muldoon said.

As Boise State began celebrating on their famous blue turf, defensive end Byron Hout yelled in Blount's face and tapped him on the shoulder pad. Before Broncos head coach Chris Petersen could pull Hout away, Blount landed a right to Hout's jaw, knocking him to his knees.

Blount also had to be restrained by police officers from fans heckling him on the way to the locker room after No. 16 Oregon's 19-8 loss to the No. 14 Broncos.

Oregon University president Richard Lariviere calling Blount's behavior "reprehensible" in a statement Friday.

"We do not and will not tolerate the actions that were taken by our player. Oregon's loyal fans expect and deserve better," Lariviere said. "The University of Oregon Athletics Department is reviewing the situation and will take appropriate action, reflecting the seriousness of the player's behavior."

After the game, Blount apologized for his actions.

"It was just something that I shouldn't have done," said Blount, who had eight carries for a loss of five yards. "I lost my head."

Boise State announced Friday that Hout would not be suspended for taunting Blount. School spokesman Max Corbet told The Associated Press in an e-mail that Petersen planned to spend time with Hout this week to help him learn from what happened.

Oregon team officials had no comment Friday morning, and practice was scheduled for later in the day.

Mike Bellotti, who stepped aside as head coach to become Oregon's athletic director this summer, said Thursday night he would consult with the Pac-10 concerning discipline for Blount.

Oregon coach Chip Kelly said he did not see the punch.

I will see it on tape and make a decision on what we need to do with him," Kelly said. "There is no place for that. I do not condone that."

In February, Blount was suspended indefinitely from the team for "failure to fulfill team obligations." Bellotti did not share any details, elaborate at the time, but Blount reportedly missed offseason team meetings.

He was reinstated before spring practice.

Blount, a 6-foot-2, 240-pound transfer from East Mississippi CC, rushed for 1,0002 yards and a school-record 17 touchdowns last season.

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(HOLY CHRIST TEN THOUSAND YARDS?!! Oh typo, you are a bad one.)

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/small_unathletic_walk_on_injures_9?utm_source=a-section

Banned for the year. That's pretty rough.

Nice sucker punch Oregon. Stay classy.

― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:26 PM (Yesterday)

well let's see here...

As Boise State began celebrating on their famous blue turf, defensive end Byron Hout yelled in Blount's face and slapped him on the shoulder pad.

I think your definition of both "classy" and "sucker punch" are pretty flawed imo, mr. bojingles...

o pls...tell me he said somethin terrible or abt dudes mama or somethin and maaaybe u have a point

A sucker punch is when you don't expect it and/or deserve it...

Classy is winning with dignity and good sportsmanship rather than talking a whole lotta punkass shit to a dude who will drop you like a rag doll.

I'll tell you what, find out what that dude said before he got Zidane'd and we probably will have a more enlightened conversation.

just the look on that dude's face before he got socked tells me he deserved it

The Oregon dude said that he didn't hear what the Boise State dude said, so it doesn't really matter what it was, because the content of it isn't why he was attacked.

splitting hairs man. whether or not the exact meaning of the phrase sucker punch exactly applies is not a v. interesting convo either.

if you want to be specific, the stay classy comment posted had nothin 2 do w/ boise acting classy.

watch blount in the video, dude is back pedalling immediately thinkin he got away w/ somethin...its a pretty punkass move, regardless of what he's responding to

let me back up a second, I'm not condoning the punch...

just the whole "classy" vs. "sucker punch" verbiage being thrown around needs to be examined. There is no good vs. evil here, it's two stupid asshole football players going at it. The media is making it into a black/white issue I'm afraid.

i dunno, he's backing away just like any boxer would after he knocks a dude down. also he probably realized "shit, i just punched a dude on tv" and tried to save himself

xp idk if it's a black/white issue or not...only the ppl down on the field know that. kind of a shitty thing to say if you don't know that's not what it IS about. if he said something racist this is obv way huger

xp meh i heard mark may and lou holtz criticize boise saying their coach should discipline that guy

So the private planes are arriving, satellite trucks are showing up, and there are a couple hundred RVs tailgating in town right now. All for a what should be a horrible ass-kicking to begin a season of serious ass-kickings.

I've decided that Greg Paulus is the Brett Favre of college football. The announcers want him to win SO BAD. He is such a great leader great leader gutty leader great guy LOOK AT HIM HUGGING THE REFEREE OMG.

Too bad he threw an interception in the end zone in overtime.

Watching a Michigan game in a bar filled with alumni in downtown PDX. This is the first time I've done this in like 9 years, and never since I left Ann Arbor.

trying to figure out if usc is that good or sjstate is that bad.

probably somewhere in the middle.

lol oklahoma

also go bears

HOLY SHIT OU LOST? LOLOLOLO FUK U BOB STOOOOOPS

uw keeping up with lsu so far...

Sam Bradford :(

Not that I care much about the Big 12 at all, but I kinda like that dude.

i feel bad for anyone that chooses college over the nfl and then gets hurt. i'd even feel bad for tim tebow, although not urban meyer.

I can't tell you how much I'd love to see LSU drop a game in week 1. That would immediately make the SEC West a 2-way competition between the Tide and Ole Miss.

plus, lsu has an annoying habit of celebrating after every defensive play. they just gave up a pass for 8 yards and trash-talked the guy after tackling him. i'm still 99% positive that they'll pull away soon and win by 2-3 touchdowns, but i'd be really happy if they lost.

i feel bad for anyone that chooses college over the nfl and then gets hurt. i'd even feel bad for tim tebow, although not urban meyer.

eh they take out big ass insurance policies

Cal/Maryland was a bloodbath. Didn't see that coming.

it should have been a bloodbath last year too, tbh. kevin riley looked very good.

good for cal - hopefully the pac 10 looks a little better this year.

how far does oklahoma drop in the poll? i think they'll end up somewhere in the high teens.

high teens sounds right. it's always difficult to rank a team when the star player is hurt. regardless, the poll doesn't have much meaning until these teams play srs games.

I'm thinking that the Pac-10 is going to be a two-team league this year, especially with Oregon losing Blount. I thought maybe Cal could beat USC, but Barkley did not look like a true freshman out there.

I didn't watch the game, but there's not much you can learn from crushing SJSU. The safe bet is that USC will crush Ohio State and Notre Dame (lol) and have a harder time w/ Pac-10 teams. I don't care how good he is - Barkley's gonna make mistakes - we're playing them relatively early + our pass rush was looking great.

love it! Shepard Smith does the voiceover for the Ole Miss college commercial.

iatee are you a USC fan? i am too. and i agree with you - i'm putting aside nc game hopes and hoping that USC wins the pac-10 (like during booty's 1st year)... if the BCS falls into place w/florida or texas losing, then great. but barkley will have an off game at some point, and usc will lose- it's inevitable.

haha I am a hardcore cal fan, so on a purely philosophical level I am veryyyy much not a usc fan and love watching their yearly loss to not-very-good pac-10 teams. but I also really like watching usc play (esp non-conference...) - team is always super entertaining. I wish tedford were willing to take the kind of risks pc does.

just in terms of talent/capability/showing up for big games, I think usc would have been a contenda if they played the national champs each of the last 3 years. imo the pc era would be a *lot* different if college had a playoff system.

it's too early to say what the cal/usc game is gonna look like, but heyyy we might actually have a reliable qb for the first time since aaron rodgers.

yeah, riley looked good last night. living in the bay area, i root for cal unless it's against usc. you had sad "we play them early" and i thought the "we" referred to USC, but it makes as much sense that it was referring to cal.

Miami/FSU was a GOOOOOOOD game, damn.

I didn't watch the game, but hey . . . maybe we're pretty good.

When I was in undergraduate, we won two NCAA Championships and lost I think a total of 3 regular-season games. We're a little off that pace now, but I'm optimistic.

Ur qb's got chops. And that wr Benjamin is hot shit.

I need to seek out a video of the game. The quarterback only 190 pounds! I worry about him getting injured.

I just want us to be better than USC and Florida, especially Florida. We've got a ways to go.

GREAT game... espn360.com will have a replay of it up this week. fsu needed a bush-push at the end, surprised jimbo fisher didn't think of that.

damn I missed the second half of this. still skeptical about florida schools not named florida tho.

I know this won't hold up for much longer, but Troy is playing Florida really hard.

As soon as I said that, Florida recovers a fumble.

soooo looking forward to the Ohio State beatdown tonight

mich/nd surprisingly entertaining. would like to see either play, y'know, a legitimately good team, though.

penn state looked ridiculous today.

unfortunately nd has a total of one legitimately good team on its schedule and michigan has zero

I'd be perfectly fine with Michigan sucking out loud for another decade or so.

dag @ this mich/nd game

lol @ ok st, nice dfense sooner nation u suk

erm sry cowboys? or whatever i mean..i just woke up after being trashed at unc vs. uconn...that wuz some bs btw, holding in the end zone w/in the last 5 min IS NOT A CALL THAT CAN EVER BE MAED

lolllll notre dame
I like the mich qb

tough start for the Lane Kiffin Era in Tennessee

Tennessee's QB was brutal on the last series, although he didn't get much help from his receivers.

I pretty much hate both Michigan and Notre Dame. It's too bad they couldn't have played to a 0-0 tie.

houston-osu game was dope!

god, maryland ;_;

whos watching usc/ohio st? game has been surprisingly good

It's close, but I wouldn't say it's good.

yeah true. well close is more than i was expecting~

Not watching, but lol @ FIU hanging with Alabama for a long while.

I hate Nick Saban.

whether or not usc wins this game, it's already clear that this isn't gonna be an undefeated season for them

I <3 Nick Saban, but only because he's coaching at Alabama. I hated him at LSU.

I'm a Dolphins fan. So you know my feelings for Coach Saban.

Yeah, I know.

Out of the 3 NFL teams in FL, I like the Dolphins most this year.

saban is a fuckin slimeball fuck that dude

They might be okay. Defense is apparently good.

ugh god i feel like there should not even be franschises in tb and jax

(Mr. Crunch OTM).

I might admit I sorta enjoyed the year Tampa Bay won the SuperBowl.

I kept thinking back to their first season, when they went winless. In a post-game conference, a reporter asked the TB coach what he thought of his offense's execution. He said, "I'm all for it."

Good times.

Deep down, I know there's going to be a day when Nick Saban abruptly departs UA for a better job and then I can go back to hating him and thinking he's a slimeball. But after all the shitty coaches we had between Gene Stallings and Nick Saban, I'm just glad to be winning again.

He is a very good college coach.

At 1 -- 0, I'm very happy with Randy Shannon, tho.

Check back with me after our first loss.

I kept thinking back to their first season, when they went winless. In a post-game conference, a reporter asked the TB coach what he thought of his offense's execution. He said, "I'm all for it."

^lol @ this. wish coors light would unearth the video/audio or do a re-enactment

Also, it was pretty sweet seeing UCLA come in and stuff a win down Lane Kiffin's stupid throat this afternoon. It will be extra sweet seeing Florida do it next weekend.

There, I must disagree. I hope the Vols edge past the Gators, 218 -- 7.

I'm FOR any team who pounds Tennessee, it doesn't matter who.

I'd have a very hard time figuring who to hate more in a Florida/Alabama game.

Or a USC/Ohio State game. Or a Notre Dame/Penn State game. Or a . . . oh, well.

way too early in several respeckts buuut...the downside of osu possibly winning this is we could be looking at a florida/osu bcs game

wau USC

way too early in several respeckts

joe mcknight game mvp, but barkley is gonna be real good soon enough

yea mcknight is nasty holee balls i dont recall seein him that much last yr

OSU's D that last drive was a-fucking-bysmal. I see USC march down the field like that and I remember how much I hate college football.

i don't hate it but i'm still not sure why people love it so much. do you have to be from the south? i don't even have a team to root for most of the time, murrland terrapins are not very good (probably gonna go to a game or two anyway though)

i mean all the kids i went to grade school with were total notre dame stans but i can't think of anything that makes me want to root for notre dame, at all

a good college football game is so much more exciting than a good nfl game because:
a. losing any game fucks you pretty srsly so it's always 5x more tense than a regular season nfl game. like, today notre dame and ohio state just lost all hope for a national title. (woohoo)
b. the margin between good teams and bad teams is really large and so underdogs are actually underdogs. even the worst nfl team is still a buncha millionaires who are among the best football players in america.

it does help to have a good team to root for tho

do you have to be from the south?

Not necessarily, but it helps. Or maybe the midwest. Also, Texas. But I'd say in general, it's the southeast where college fandom is probably the most hardcore.

I love the NFL too, of course, but I have no home team and never have (except the few years I lived in Nashville, but even then I didn't feel particularly drawn to the Titans). Of course there are some teams I like more than others, and a couple I really do hate, but I still don't feel as close to it as I do the college game.

I'd say the love for college ball in the southeast is probably on par with the love for the Premier League in Britain.

OSU's D that last drive was a-fucking-bysmal. I see USC march down the field like that and I remember how much I hate college football.

Tennessee's defense against Pittsburgh at the end of the game wasn't much better.

maryland will probably qualify for a crummy bowl game, but they're not exactly good. the friedgen offense is pretty fun to watch when it's clicking, though. losing heyward-bey to the nfl hurt.

I watched the Ohio State/USC game last night. I love football, but I have no inclination for NCAA football. I swear it took 7 hours to play that game last night.

I'm not watching the game (I am semi-overseeing my daughter do her math homework), but . . . my U is looking pretty good, I think.

Uhhhhhhh . . . 24 -- 3.

Spoke toooooooo fast, methinks.

I only watched the first half (not super interested in the ACC tbh) but I have a feeling like you guys def bottomed out over the last few years and will be pretty good again

No doubt we're coming back. Many of us will never forgive Larry Coker for killing the program. We were poised, at the beginning of the decade, for another era of dominance. I'd love to see the 2000 -- 2001 Hurricanes vs. the great USC or Florida teams of this decade.

AND THEN LARRY COKER RUINED US IN WAYS NCAA SANCTIONS NEVER COULD.

(Like Pres. Obama is doing to America, Coach Coker destroyed the U. from the inside).

The point differential could have been a lot worse, I gather.

why... why would you throw the ball oob on 4th down

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh186/holley_750/psyduck.gif

nesbit almost made me long for the halcyon days of reggie ball... almost

the greatest tragedy here is having to hear about how DA U IS BACK now

Well, we are.

lol nukka the acc is horrid, wait till u play some ooc games... OU will grind yall into powder

Probably. Can't argue with the early schedule, tho: No. 18, No. 14. Good competition.

We're not really "back" yet. But we will be, soon enough.

eh rankings really don't mean anything first few weeks

Well, we could have played Troy, I suppose. Maybe FIU.

considering how little slack schools get for those gimmie games, it's not always a bad idea

but I agree w/ cankles, the OU game will be much more telling than the first 3

Sure, sure. But look, this team -- say, two years ago -- might have been 0 -- 2 at this point. The Hurricanes are recruiting well, again. Only a matter of time, I hope, before we're back in the Nat'l Championship discussion annually.

only time will tell

Well, as somebody mentioned upthread, Urban Meyer still owns recruiting in the state of Florida. DA U will have to scrap through a couple winning seasons before that tide turns.

FL has enough hs talent to go around

And Randy Shannon is a magic man for recruiting in South Florida, which was always UM's strategy in the past.

this boise/fresno game is abt 10000% better than i thought itd be

Me & friend are in the Thirsty Lion, a pub in downtown portland currently filled with alumni and watching the Michigan/EMU game. We're huddled in the corner, drinking beer, and tapping away at our respective portable computing devices.

And yet it feels like a proper way to begin the day.

the gator chomp is objectively the gayest thing in all of college athletics

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Jahvid Best had five TDs today against the Gophers.

Dude is a monster.

Hopefully he won't throw up on the field this year.

I had to miss the cal game but kept up w/ the score via cell phone. heisman talk maybe not entirely completely crazy?

lol Look at all those happy Gator fans.

I hate hate hate the Florida Gators.

corp is making it clear why usc picked barkley to be the starter. this guy sucks so far. i've been nervous about usc vs uw all week, and the first half did nothing to calm that.

usc tends to win games that start like this due to pc's adjustments - but who knows? v. interested.

yea lets go u dub!

lolsc

wau

Jake Locker always kind of seemed like he was going to be terrifyingly good at some point, except he kept getting hurt and being surrounded by less talented people, and yeah, now Washington is a little scary.

I wonder if the other Pac-10 teams are going to try and play USC by trying to kill Barkley so they can get to Corp. Because Corp was not really good.

"not really good" = understatement of the day. that was the worst showing by a usc qb since before carson palmer... even booty during the UCLA loss in 2006 looked better. it's a shame that once barkley and taylor mays get healthy, usc will probably look pretty good again, but this loss will hold them out of any meaningful postseason games.

jake locker is retarded for choosing to stay in washington, but yeah he is good. still I'm not sure washington is a great team, game said more about usc than anything else.

Oh no, do not get me wrong, Washington would not have won that game without Aaron Corp, but I just remember watching Jake Locker as a freshman and thinking "Holy crap that dude is gonna be a monster", and today on that last drive it basically gave me the impression that if you give UW a chance to win on the last possession, you are playing with fire. Whether the rest of UW can get good enough in the next couple seasons to make that a possibility every game is a different story.

Last year, Washington lost every game they played.

This year, after three games, they are ranked.

Is it possible to lock up Coach of the Year after only three games?

glad uw is ranked this week... i thought they might not be, since the media likes to play the "look at this pathetic team usc lost to" card a lot more than they like to give teams credit for playing better than usc.

eh most of the usc losses (stanford, ucla) *were* shitty teams that deserved to be unranked. I have no opinion on uw's ranking...still too early to judge.

yeah im not really sure uw is real - whatever tho let em be ranked and we'll wait and see

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I watched that play live and was like OMGGGGGGGG

word didnt he lose a contact lens on it too? that is badazzz

Sorta interesting article about Jake Locker and how the Angels paid him 300k to lock up his rights should he ever decide to play baseball again after not picking up a bat in 2 years:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-jake-locker19-2009sep19,0,474963.story

ugh, can we keep boring ass college football to one thread

― blap 10, lure, ax (k3vin k.), Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:23 PM

Isn't it wonderful that none of the NFL players we all love had to come up through the college ranks? OH WAIT THEY ALL DID

Oh Gamecocks, you're always just good enough to bring down a couple teams ranked higher than yourselves, but never good enough to go all the way. They're in SEC no man's land.

anyone who *only* likes the NFL doesn't really like football that much imo

xp

miisissippi's #4 ranking was based on wins over...memphis and southeastern louisiana??? I dunno if this is really such a shocking upset - ole miss might not even be a top 25 team when things play out.

yeah pre season rankings can eat a dick

i mean it was basically based on beating a florida team that probably overlooked them, an LSU team that got fucked over at QB and wasn't even that good to begin with and a texas tech team that certainly wasn't as up for a bowl game as ole miss

basically they had lots of hype + a road thursday night game is always a recipe for a disaster. they did not look good.

what was that call on the last drive? a halfback pass???

Furthermore, this probably tanked Snead's Heisman potential for a lot of voters.

shep will be sad :-(

i'm at the point in the week where i want to just hibernate until the miami game

i already thought that this was one of the most compelling cfb years in a while and now all this!! i can hardly take it

I used to hate the U so so so much! It goes back to the days when there was a yearly grudge match between Miami and Alabama for a while. But now I'm actually happy to see them in the top 10 again. Also, it frees me up to focus all my intense hatred on Tennessee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7G7loR2VVw

<3<3<3<3

that's funny bcuz everyone in miami roots intensely against bama now because of saban

Furthermore, this probably tanked Snead's Heisman potential for a lot of voters.

also tanked by the existence of jahvid best

also tanked by being the qb of ole miss

the greatest shame of all

Saban wouldn't have still been coaching the Fins by now, anyway. He could never wrap his head around the pro game (just like Spurrier). Sorry about the Cam Cameron season, though. Our bad.

i think it's a pretty delusional hatred as well but it still lives. def a bit tempered tho under the sporano reign. the cameron year tho, i've never heard anything like it. i remember my brother telling me about the radio shows after bama lost that game to louisiana-monroe (?)

Apparently a large percentage of UM's current team are Shannon's recruits from Northwestern HS (''NWHS''). If we can keep drawing heavily from NWHS's best players, we will be in BCS Title contention very -- very -- soon.

danny there's gonna be a good number of very good NW kids coming again soon

i do think it was a halfback pass on that last series from ole miss. good grief, the play calling.. and snead really inaccurate.

so what game should i watch saturday?

Yeah, that's what I hear. Back in "the day," UM focused almost exclusively on South Florida, and let FSU and UF and out-of-state programs try to skim talent from the rest of the state. It worked well then, we got away from it during Larry Coker's tenure, and it seems to be working well again (but the jury's still out, so to speak).

(xp to J0rdan).

yeah i mean there's a small truth to that. i mean a big part of the problem is that the local players that we did get weren't very good. also it's pretty easy for randy shannon to put an emphasis on local recruiting the year when all the NW kids were graduating. that said, this staff definitely has a better idea of the kind of player that they want and they're making hay right now with some players - jacory & laron byrd chiefly - that were passed over by a lot of schools (jacory wasn't offered by either UF or FSU & byrd is from louisiana and wasn't offered by LSU, UF, bama, TENN etc)

daria it's a pretty bad week for college football tbh

I think the Bama/Arkansas game will be another shootout, maybe not as much as the Georgia/Arkansas game last week, as Bama has a much better secondary, but I think there's gonna be a lot of passing...and that's always fun to watch.

Miami/VaTech will be good too, though I definitely think the Hokies are in over their heads this year.

daria - cal/oregon, obv! should be high scoring

Definitely Cal/Oregon. Can't wait for that one.

Iowa/Penn State is a good game, as is Miami/Virginia Tech.

jacory wasn't offered by either UF or FSU

This seems amazing to me, in retrospect. But maybe Jacory will run out of gas, or defenses will figure him out, or maybe he's too undersized for the position . . . ?

Miami/VaTech will be good too, though I definitely think the Hokies are in over their heads this year.

Wow I hope you're right. It would be a huge bummer to lose this game and have to face Oklahoma.

This seems amazing to me

Not me. I think a lot of quarterbacks are passed over by schools because they're already committed to the quarterbacks they have. I get it in UF's case (Tim Tebow will be followed by John Brantley, who's currently being groomed to take over) and FSU's as well (who've finally got a decent guy with Christian Ponder and have Will Secord waiting in the wings).

A lot of great qb's end up in struggling programs and smaller schools simply because there's not room for everybody, especially if these qb's ever want to see playing time.

Jacory probably didn't fall through the cracks elsewhere. He just wasn't needed.

Yeah, but Jacory was so young. UM had that other very highly-touted kid (Robert Marve, maybe?), who I think was older than Jacory. If Marve had worked out, Jacory wouldn't have started for some time, anyway. In other words, had UM's quarterback progression been as expected, Jacory wouldn't have become the starter any earlier than he would have at, say, UF (once Tim Tebow graduates). My time-lines are based on memory, tho, so I might be wrong about all this. If so, I blame senility and/or stupidity.

Marve is cursed in just about every way, and Randy Shannon probably knew it at the time. They brought in Jacory to meet a need.

(Marve is currently on the Purdue roster, sitting out a year btw)

eh it's also just super difficult to scout hs kids, you don't have to blame senility

This is also true.

I was out-of-the-loop at the time. What was Marve's problem?

From wikipedia:

Miami

Marve was redshirted for his true freshman season in 2007 after a summer car accident in which he suffered a broken arm. He was 6-5 as a starter during the 2008-2009 season,[1] splitting his playing time with true freshman Jacory Harris. He started every game except the season opener against Charleston Southern, for which he was suspended. Marve finished the 2008 regular season with 9 passing touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He also had 1,293 passing yards on 116 completions on 213 attempts, for a quarterback rating of 107.19. Miami accepted a bowl bid to play the University of California in the Emerald Bowl, but Marve did not play in the Bowl after being suspended for academic reasons on December 18, 2008.

Transfer

On December 30, 2008 Marve announced his intention to transfer from Miami; it is believed that he was considering the University of Florida, the University of Tennessee, and Louisiana State University.[4] In response, Miami stipulated that he could not transfer to any school in Florida, the ACC, or the SEC. Marve appealed to the school's athletic appeals committee,[5] and after much negative publicity, Miami lifted part of the transfer limitations to allow him to transfer to any school in the SEC, except the University of Florida, the University of Tennessee, and Louisiana State University. Those three SEC schools were singled out based on beliefs by Miami that individuals representing the Marve family contacted those schools regarding Marve's potential transfer. The in-state ban still stood, however, except for the University of South Florida and the University of Central Florida, to which he was allowed to transfer. [6][7] In January, Eugene Marve told the Miami Herald that Bob Stoops, head coach of the Oklahoma Sooners, had expressed an interest in Marve's transfer. Eugene also suggested that Marve was considering Oklahoma State University, Purdue and the University of South Florida.[8][9] Shortly after Eugene's announcement, Bob Stoops was interviewed by Tulsa World and stated that he had not contacted Robert or his family and had no interest in recruiting Robert Marve. Stoops expressed confusion as to how such a rumor could have started and commented that he was satisfied with the quarterbacks he currently had.

Purdue

On May 20, 2009, Marve announced he would transfer to Purdue University, despite his father having said he had prostate cancer and wanted Robert playing closer to home.[11] On July 21, 2009, Marve tore his ACL and will red-shirt the 2009 season.

marve was a good but immature kid who just wasn't as good as jacory.

jacory was seen as being too skinny & too weak & helped out by his surrounding talent and i think he's certainly one of those players that pops up like... idk drew brees or something where the stories will inevitably turn to (why wasn't this guy highly recruited??). i mean, i think in a sense we got lucky that he was in our backyard & was with A TON of players that we wanted. if he was from tampa we might not have offered or if he went to like coral gables we might not have offered. but the comparisons to ken dorsey are pretty apt. we took dorsey from cali when we were considerably worse than ucla and washington, were about equal to usc but on the other side of the country etc. i hate to use the cliche but he's just a *contemplates killing self* "winner" - i mean he's super smart & accurate & mature beyond his years.

it wasn't until very very late in the game that rivals even bumped jacory up from 3 stars to 4 stars but i think it was basically apparent from the start that jacory was eventually going to take over the job - the players are kidn of opening up about it now but you could tell in how marve didn't play in the second half of a lot of games last year

it seems a bit early to compare jacory to drew brees! or even ken dorsey. I dunno I haven't seen all of your games and he looks like a solid college qb, but miami still needs a few big games before jacory can be considered anything beyond a good qb.

basically the comparison i'm making is that he's less physically talented objectively than other guys (certainly marve) but he makes up for it with the "intangibles" that make sportswriters like ken dorsey - certainly he has a long way to go to reach that of course

oh okay I misread you a lil

a few minor upsets brewing

excited about the cal game

forcier is a fun dude to watch

FSU is unbelievable

these noon/11 am games will be much more tolerable if michigan is good this year

I like their offense and forcier's gonna make the next few years interesting...but they're gonna be overranked in the next ranking. a 'good' team does not give up 34 points to notre dame...win or lose.

notttt liking this game.

ugh we are getting so outcoached. their notsogreat qb is getting 10 minutes to throw.

miami game not going great either, apparently.

tech is killing them. it's pouring here & everyone on miami sidelines looks like they're about to cry right now. just had a punt blocked and ran in for a TD - 21-0 tech.

(pouring in the DMV, i'm not actually at the game, figure i ought to root for the local teams though)

Cal is playing like garbage.

still can't believe we gave back 2 turnovers the VERY NEXT PLAY

this is painfulllll

Strongly considering switching over to PBS to watch Eric Ripert eat oysters.

if we can manage a td (long best run plz) we could make it a 1 score game by halftime.

but seriously, the sad thing is that it really doesn't look like oregon is actually that great. ridiculously outcoached + deciding to give them back all their turnovers.

hmmm pbs you say

Z*** K*** cal football: the cross we must bear.
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Guys between this and Jevan Snead on Thursday and Sam Bradford in week 1, I am pretty sure that God is eliminating all potential Heisman competitors of Tim Tebow. If I were Colt McCoy I would be afraid for my life.

ha otm

I didn't have a good feeling about this game, but I definitely didn't think it would be an obscene blowout.

I can't remember the last single digit game in the tedford era - but obv it would happen when we were ranked #6. we're the cubs fans of college football.

plays in to the #5 curse sorta (cal woulda been 5 w/ the ole miss loss right?) lol @ cubs analogy yea cal seems sorta sadface

Guys between this and Jevan Snead on Thursday and Sam Bradford in week 1, I am pretty sure that God is eliminating all potential Heisman competitors of Tim Tebow. If I were Colt McCoy I would be afraid for my life.

― C-L, Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

tebow struck by friendly fire??

I doubt it, because God does not root for the Florida Gators.

(I doubt that God is eliminating Tebow's potential Heisman competitors, I meant).

GOD ONLY WATCHES PRO FOOTBALL, ANYWAY.

also, then i guess we'd have to chalk tebow getting a concussion and puking into a bag on his way off the field to "mysterious ways"...

I am not sure whether to compare Tebow to Job or to Jesus in the wilderness.

It's probably the latter.

I think Damien Thorn is a better comparison point.

Houston vs. Texas Tech IS THE BEST GAME

so, up 27-0 late in the game against washington state, aaron corp gets his chance to redeem himself with usc's fans after last week... and fumbles on the 3rd play.

USC will start a quarterback next year that's not either one of these clowns.

idk homes i think you're looking at a 4 year starter in barkley - carroll basically wants to marry the kid

Well, they'll go to hell together in a handbasket for two.

i like barkley so far... don't think uw would have won if he had started. corp on the other hand is the worst qb at usc in a decade. also, lol @ cal for falling 18 spots in the poll... harsh!

yeah usc wouldn't have lost with barkley - corp is unimaginably bad for usc

Dont'a Hightower (Alabama LB) out for the season with ACL. ;_;

yo that dude richardson is gonna be sick. pretty insane that they plucked him from gator/nole country.

Yeah, just look at this picture. THE ARMS!

http://blog.al.com/segrest/2009/02/small_Trent%20Richardson2.jpg

mf'ing hawaii rainbow qb got so lit up on a hit. dude being carted off looks like hes in such pain

god i hate the big 10

just like, can't minnesota and indiana and wisconsin and michigan state just be totally nuked off the face of the earth so i don't ever have to see any of them play football again

otm

lol actually the mich-mich state game appears like it got pretty good, but it's only on the 'big ten network' so nobody is watching or cares

yeah, seriously

game basically doesn't even exist

the nfl is *barely* justified in having its on tv channel imo, can't imagine what kinda retarded logic went into creating this one

Big Ten channel can show all the non-revenue sports, though. Sometimes you can watch like, college wrestling, which is weirdly great! Plus when they run out of sports they show bizarre student programming, like whatever random crap the University of Wisconsin student-run TV channel produced.

college is such a qb based game

like, lsu should be amazing but they have like tennessee titans-era vince young playing qb

I had fun watching the UM/MSU game this morning at the bar. Michigan played like shit and the defense fucked up too much and the offense had some weird tactical calls.

Still, enjoyed that the game went into O/T even so, and MSU still won. Ah well.

The Big Ten channel chyron/on-screen graphics are remarkably disappointing.

games got good here at the end

lsu-uga had a good last 6 or 7 mins, now nd-wash

will give my first born for a cal win

gah fuckkk kevin riley

Didn't take me long to turn this game off.

what the fuck am I supposed to do with my first born now

send him to usc

but I want him to be functionally literate...

hey i went to usc and i can read and right just fine.

pretty happy w/usc so far this game. also nice that taylor mays is healthy again.

canes not ground into powder, ou qb looks ridic w/ that 'stache

Again, not watching the game. ESPN says it's 21 -- 10 midway thru 3rd. And we've scored 21 straight points. So we're looking okay, I take it?

I see I spoke too soon. 21 -- 16.

yea that was a quick turn - ou had punted but there was a roughing the kicker call - it was questionable - & then the ou rb just scorched miami

god I hate football

Have hope.

WOW: First Downs, 21 -- 21; Total Yards, 341 -- 342; Time of Possession, 29:00 -- 30:00.

Close game.

cal :-(

lol nukka the acc is horrid, wait till u play some ooc games... OU will grind yall into powder

― candice spergin (cankles), Friday, September 18, 2009

Just sayin'.

great win for miami- glad the usc/cal game cut away to the huge 3rd down play that sealed the game for them.

Looking ahead on the schedule, I see North Carolina and I guess the University of South Florida (5 -- 0 now, with a win over FSU) as the biggest hurdles. If we clear them, we could be 11 -- 1.

thought stoops put the JAWS OF CROMPTON on landry jones tonight tbh. they were abusing our dbs and then they kidna pulled off and let our D get confident. okla D was kinda wack tho. made baby j look like edge.

they would've been up 21-0 if bradford was healthy & playing but... WHAT THE FUCK EVER IMO. we got some nice cupcakes coming up. hopefully they can keep focus against teams like duke & wake. i think this offense is gonna dominate some defenses tho. next year is gonna be the real deal.

Yeah, I think so. But this year has the potential for us to be way ahead of schedule.

as jacory harris was being ushered off the field, he was telling the miami staffers to let him find landry jones to congratulate him before he got led to the locker room. not particularly a u fan or anything, but it he seems pretty humble/classy for a guy with "u swag" etched in his hair.

he's a good kid

has there ever been a better combination of beastly name and beastly player than NDAMUKONG SUH

yall this game is so dreadful. i wanted to cry just walking to class today let alone standing out at this game. the final score is gonna be 5-0 mizzou.

wait wait wait the score is 2-0? WAHT

nebraska has fumbled three times tonight while attempting to punt or catch a punt, one of those was in the end zone. and thus, 2-0

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/blog/assets_c/2009/10/1009stafon1-thumb-640x480-1879.jpg

Aww it is a lot harder to hate on Matt Barkley when he is visiting Stafon Johnson and wearing an Active T-shirt.

i love that he so 100% looks the part of the chill, blonde, cali surfer archetype

neck device makes it look like he's part machine now - usc will make good use of a cyborg rb who wants to get revenge on society

but srsly - is he gonna be healthy enough to play again one day?

i would imagine so. the mental part of it for him will probably be the biggest hurdle. the neck feels like such a fragile part of the body.

yeah but I wonder if his neck is still gonna be tender and whether or not it might get srsly screwed up in a big hit? haven't read anyone talk about this in any news article - I guess we're still at the 'glad he's alive' stage, but it'd be nice to know if he still had some NFL dollars in his future.

supposedly he'll make a "full" recover, which i assume means he will play again. i don't know if he'll be able to handle the nfl, though. surprising thing for me is that he's wearing a shirt with a barbell on it. you'd think he'd have a phobia or something.

oregon/ucla is 0-3 at halftime yet it's been quite watchable

I guess today's all about florida/lsu, nothing elsed really looks that interesting

bama-ole miss has been okay. wisconsin 10 ohio st 7 has been as much of a snoozer as that would imply. i think every team in the big 10 is dogshit tbh. iowa is getting shine off beating a penn st team that has inflated ranking based on tradition, ohio state's looks like it couldn't complete passes against a high school team, michigan is gonna be great but they're young right now with a bad defense.

i think every team in the big 10 is dogshit tbh.

lol yeah this has been true for like 5 years, but I think people are finally accepting it

ole miss is awful, jesus

it's like houston nutt abandoned all his crazy nuttness when he finally got a "real" qb but this offense looks like garbage. they need to get in some wildcat ish right now imo.

also, 72 font O_O at what crompton did against uga today

yeah they shouldn't/won't be a ranked team

To put Crompton's 310-yard, four-touchdown day against one of the SEC's (and therefore one of the nation's) most talented defenses, some perspective: Before last week's fourth-quarter rally against Auburn, Crompton had never topped 200 yards passing against an SEC defense; that was also the first time he'd thrown multiple touchdown passes (two) in a conference game. For his career, Crompton had completed slightly fewer than half his passes against SEC opponents, with more interceptions (8) than touchdowns (7) and a dismal 99.5 efficiency rating to solidify his name as the one most synonymous with contemporary college quarterbacking failure. His efficieny rating today? Two-hundred twelve, and that's with a Georgia interception return for touchdown off a flubbed reception that wasn't really the quarterback's fault.

ole miss offense looks terrible. in fact every time i've watched, ole miss offense has been terrible. going to get out of the house and skip the second half.

i really wish the tv stations would actually show the halftime shows with the marching band! i also wish i was at a game today. my moms went to a WVU game lately & actually enjoyed it despite knowing next to nothing about the rules of football.

hahaha ole miss ad voiceover sounds familiar! XD

i really wish the tv stations would actually show the halftime shows with the marching band!

otm, also the card stunts and goofy random shit that happens

exactly. i love a good college marching band. especially the southern bands. i was in marching band @ high school in a completely football-crazy town, so.. imho the band should get some airtime, that's a long day you spend there at the stadium & people don't appreciate.

more than giving them their due, it'd also just make the broadcasts way more entertaining. yeah it'd take away money from commercials, but it'd increase the potential audience if they made these things more about the 'event' as less about the actual game. this is why people who don't care about football can still enjoy the super bowl.

true that. i mean, one of the few redeeming things about the fedex field experience is that redskins have their own marching band.

hbcu marching bands <3
Tennessee St 2005 - Stay Fly

marching band in general has to be so much more fun now that hip hop's taken over about everywhere, there are youtube videos of stuff like 'our drumline doing the 'a milli' cadence at the pep rally'

i wish the cbs college football broadcast would do every single game

^^this

can't sit thru another lsu game tho. what an utterly dreadful offense. my god.

Some team must beat Florida. Two would be better; one is a must.

they might get nipped. no playmaking WRs. bama could definitely beat them.

Bah. That's one of maybe two teams where I might have to -- root? -- for the Gators.

Root for an unimpressive 0 -- 0 tie, is more like it.

tebow wasn't looking 100% (I only watched like a quarter of this, though)

I think florida at 100% would beat bama tho

I wish UM was all grown up.

fla dfense wuz legit tho

daniel I root for meteors to hit the field in games like that -

lol. I'd root for the cheerleading squad to rush the field and spear all the players unconscious.

daniel, if alabama and UF finish with identical records but bama beats them then they are gonna get in

Oh, I realize that. I just hate them both.

If Miami can't win it, I'd be happy if, say, Oregon does. Maybe Boise.

Or some other team named the "Fighting Ducks" or "Rabid Beavers," or something like that.

yeah the SEC winner is almost a sure thing for the championship game this year

it's gonna be USC versus bama/UF

Blech.

Probably so.

nah usc will lose to arizona or something retarded

hopefully

i forgot texas. i think they're gonna lose to oklahoma tho.

boise state is gonna go undefeated and they're getting more and more respect - I don't think it's be impossible they could sneak in this year ifff there's no other undefeated team

what was the whole dez bryant thing? is there no chance he's gonna b back eligible? i guess thats what a dinner w/ deion gets ya

xp im worried boise gets in a big game and gets worked a la the colt brennan hawaii team

ha, no, the thing is, the dinner was legal, but dez apparently froze up when the ncaa asked him about it and he lied and said he was never there and that's why they clipped him

boise beat a *good* oregon team already...I dunno I think they'd be competitive, but it's def a ?

boise would not get in over these one-loss teams: florida, texas, usc, ohio st, alabama, lsu, virginia tech, usc - also a potential for an undefeated cincy, tcu or iowa, all of which would get in over boise

their only win is gonna be @ home over oregon. their conference is terrible this year.

dez is gonna be a real big player in the nfl imo

iowa's gonna lose to osu imo

jord, if they were ranked where they usually are, I'd agree with you - but texas, florida, alabama are all gonna fall in their losses, and boise might end up #2 for long enough that people will actually just accept it as truth.

yeah idk, i mean they already got jumped by VT. i wouldn't be surprised if that continued to happen.

yeah timing matters, you (/VT) can recover from early season losses, but these losses might be too late? I dunno it's not like a sure or likely thing, but I think it's worth considering.

i just thought bsu looked avg at best vs a bad fresno team...i dont want them anywhere near a natl championship game

tbh I'm not that excited by ANY of the top teams this year, at least boise state would make the game something of a novelty. god the championship games have sucked *so* much since that usc/texas one.

true. im fairly convinced fla is gonna win again, deservedly

i'm with johnny. it would be ridiculous imo. they might be pretty good but it's not fair for lsu/uf/bama to have to play the competition week in & out that they do and boise only has to beat one team & roll over a bunch of other garbage teams. if anything they've gotten to the point that tons of traditionally successful big six schools are in that their ranking is based as much on their name then on their performance.

^^ also true for any team in the big 10

/ notre dame

(true w/r/t the competition I mean)

yeah i mean, the prevailing theme of the past three or so seasons here has been that any team can lose at any time to anybody. that doesn't really apply to boise. it's not fair to them but it's also not fair to the 'major' teams.

I mean it's also unfair that boise state isn't given a shot to prove it - and it's not really their fault, they schedule as well as they can. I doubt I have to convince anyone in this thread that playoffs are the only solution, but yeah, the college postseason is hopeless and barely worth watching imo.

yes otm

and will continue to be until: a. playoffs or b. cal goes to the rosebowl

so until 2050 at least

haha well they already had illinois in the rose bowl. that should've been enough.

universal health care argument : american politics ::
college football playoff argument : college sports

Boise St will never be in the champ. game until they play at least 3 BCS schools in the same season. One lousy Pac 10 game isn't going to cut it.

how it should be imo

boise state doesn't have the option to play at least 3 bcs schools in the same season. I dunno it just seems absurd to suggest that the best team in the country will always and forever be a bcs school when good bcs teams are losing to boise state-like teams year after year.

well, byu got two big bcs schools, houston got two big ones and a smaller, beatable one (miss st.) so i don't know how true that is. and it is unfair to boise st., i think that's patently obvious, but i also think it's unfair to iowa who has to beat penn st, ohio st and michigan every year instead of hawaii, nevada and fresno state

i mean, fresno state barely beat wisconsin this year and they are the biggest in conference test for boise?

Boise State's predicament is that they can't afford to lure in beatable BCS teams and good BCS teams won't invite them in for fear of losing. The only way out of the hole they're in is to petition to join a legit conference.

it's true cause they schedule these things half a decade ahead of time (who knows if bsu will be any good in 5 years)

+ outside of like, usc, nobody wants to play these teams voluntarily. BCS teams have nothing to gain and lots to lose.

challops: I don't think the big 10 or big east conferences are *significantly* better than hawaii, nevada and fresno state. like the gap is smaller than the gap between SEC and big 10.

Oh yeah, the fact that the Big East is even a BCS conference is questionable, and the ACC and Big 10 are starting to be similarly questionable.

the problem is that in the big six conferences, the talent gap has very much been narrowed. we see this every week - michigan taken to the brink by indiana, kansas by iowa state, lsu by miss st, texas by colorado etc etc etc. these teams have a test every week pretty much. that's just not the case in the WAC and it won't be with teams like san jose st, utah state, new mexico state, la. tech forever. it's unfair to boise but it's also unfair to the virginia techs. it's a fucked up system no doubt.

counterargument: michigan, kansas, lsu and texas overrated!

sure, sure. but take USC for instance. washington is probably the second to last team in the pac 10. usc played @ their stadium w/o their backup qb and lost in a very close game. it could be the game that decides their season. if boise went into san jose st w/ their backup qb they'd still win by 30 points. they just don't have the same risks that the other teams do.

Boise State is really on an island out there. The WAC offers no real competition. If they joined the MWC, they'd still dominate. Their only hope is the Pac-10, who would either have to kick a team out or expand to the Pac-12 by picking up someone else (which wouldn't be bad if Utah and Boise State moved into a Pac-12... would instantly make it tougher conference).

tbh I have been on your side of this same argument before...I think I am mostly arguing for bsu because it's the only way I can envision an interesting championship game

and because today I watched a buncha clips from the fiesta bowl game cause I was looking at trick plays on youtube and that was basically the best game I've seen in my life

johnny - I hear byu/utah mentioned more often as a pac12 possibility.

it makes more sense w/ the state geographic/rivalry 'sets' of teams that the pac10 has going.

the problem with boise is that they are good enough to be up there with those teams, i think they have proved that at various points. but their "off games" never matter because their competition is so weak, usually.

what i wish would happen, and it would be profitable, would be for the big mid-majors to defect. something llike

boise
tcu
utah
hawaii
fresno
houston
byu
nevada
troy
air force

like, that would be a legit conference that should get a bcs tie-in and a few teams w a legit shot at making it to the title every year

That would be the most trap-gamiest conference ever.

yeah it might be a bit... TOO STRONG. idk. it would be awesome tho. if they're never gonna do a playoff, fuck, that would give those teams a legit claim imo

the problem is that these teams are good *now* - they might not be in 5 years. I guess that's the biggest difference - even when alabama/miami/etc. are horrible, we can expect the institutions to recover, whereas these schools don't have the guarantee to be good anything but this year.

I'd be happy to kick Arkansas and South Carolina back out of the SEC if anyone wants them.

i mean, they should eliminate the big east and adopt my hybrid conference

cincy moves to the big 10 and eliminates... indiana?

for football

they should just eliminate the big east as a football conference!

I've been following a link trail around Wikipedia for over an hour learning how, when and why all the FCS conferences were formed and who's jumped into and out of which ones over the years. I guess I'd never paid close attention to any of it before because I was raised in SEC territory, which outside of admitting Arkansas and South Carolina in 1991, has been completely stable since the 1960s. (I knew GA Tech was a founding SEC member, but didn't realize Tulane also was.)

Also, counting all sports and not just football, the Big East really is BIG, damn.

huge week next week yall

ranked teams matchups

cincy @ usf (thurs)
okla & texas
south carolina @ bama
vt @ gt
usc @ nd

+

arkansas @ UF

That's next week's schedule? Meh. Aside from Cincinatti v. USF (teams I know nothing about, except that having USF on the Hurricane's schedule for the last game makes me nervous), I don't think these are very competitive matchups (notwithstanding UT's ranking). Anyway, the obvious: Oklahoma; Alabama; VT; USC; Florida.

i don't think oklahoma, VT or USC are at all obvious!!

Hope yr right.

I will eat my hat if the usc game is even close

haha I mean the california usc and assume you do too

but I will eat half a hat if the other usc game is

I will eat a quarter of a hat if notre dame scores more than 17 points

yeah idk. ND should be able to move the ball but their defense is pretty terrible against the run. i'm expecting something pretty low scoring. will def be interesting to see clausen against a real defense.

i bet it's something like 28-17/24-10 USC

yeah that sounds right to me

I hope ND wins, then loses the rest of their games (subject to my needed them to beat another even more-hated team).

"needing"

if clausen has 2 more tds than INTs he'll get serious heisman hype. if they actually win then he'll be the frontrunner.

that would be enough to make me quit watching cfb this year

me too, but tebow & bradford & mccoy have all had pretty :-( years

More power to Jacory.

MORE POWER TO JACORY.

(i.e., Amen!)

Also, not just a homer Bama stan pick, but Mark Ingram's probably got a shot at this too.

it's super wide open unless bradford gets on a huge roll here

This was posted on one of the political threads and I thought it was funny as hell.

25 Worst Divsion 1 College Mascots

http://lolovivirono.vox.com/library/post/25-worst-division-1-college-mascots.html

Indiana isn't on the list, because we don't have a mascot. We just have a guy that runs out with a big ass IU flag.

rest of boise's sched btw [they looked avg at best vs tulsa]

Sat, Oct 24 at Hawaii 11:05 pm --
Sat, Oct 31 San Jose State 3:00 pm --
Fri, Nov 6 at Louisiana Tech 8:00 pm --
Sat, Nov 14 Idaho 3:00 pm --
Fri, Nov 20 at Utah State 9:30 pm --
Fri, Nov 27 Nevada TBA --
Sat, Dec 5 New Mexico State 3:00 pm

Anyone know much about UNC and/or USF (aside from the fact they appear to be pretty good)? They appear to be the two biggest games left on Miami's schedule, and they're clustered toward the end of the regular season.

i was at unc vs. uconn ~ unc looked shitty and had an anemic offense and should have lost. i guess they've gotten better since then. i recall their TE being good

usf is now playing a freshman at qb right? and allowed 34 pts to cincy

Cincinnati's ranked higher than we are, FWIW. And I think we play them there.

But yeah, it's a game I suppose we should win?

It's a game that scares me, is what it is.

haha so after defending boise state earlier in this thread, I watched the tulsa game, and yeah, they're not that great

I think they woulda been competitive in a championship game during that fiesta bowl year tho

unc is garbage & we haven't beaten them in like 5 years so extra motivation

usf is going to be a tough ass game. they obv want to beat other in state teams and they remind me A LOT of v tech. thankfully their running is way less dominant. they have really good defensive ends, which is scary. pressure can really fuck up an offense & a game

daniel, imo the games to be worried about are the ones that no one is talking about & the team is going to underestimate themselves - duke, clemson, and the scariest game imo is @ wake. they've got a very good passing game, which is def our weakness, and it's on the road. but we'll see.

(USF) obv want to beat other in state teams and they remind me A LOT of v tech

They certainly beat FSU, whereas we had a much more competitive game with FSU. USF does want to beat the other Florida teams, like U. Miami's wanted to take revenge on a number of programs that beat us while we've been down the past few years. And, of course, Va. Tech whupped us just a few games ago. OTOH, USF was just beaten badly, so . . .

Bah. This game worries me. You're right that we should also be concerned about the other games, e.g., Clemson, Wake. U. Miami has always underperformed in games against lesser teams, but at least those are games we can/should win.

"beat-up FSU," I meant to say.

damn bradford is just a 100x better athlete than mccoy, isnt he? like this dude

dan, i think it's important to note that this miami team is different than any one we've had for years. jacory has literally changed the whole attitude & outlook of the program. and that includes shannon too, whose disposition has done about 180 degrees from the past two years until now. there are going to be no more 17-10 games vs ucf or 13-10 games vs wake. that being said, just the way college football is now, it's true that most any team can beat you, esp if you're on the road. of course miami isn't good enough to transcend this, at least not yet.

I didn't even mean the recent teams. During our two dynasty-periods, we often played down to the competition. We just bloodied and smashed the top-tier teams in big games.

(But I hear you)

"During our two dynasty-periods, we often played down to the competition. We just bloodied and smashed the top-tier teams in big games." sounds likes usc now (ha)... let's see how we do against notre dame today.

I'm no USC fan. I should be rooting for Notre Dame, TBH, just given where Miami is ranked.

Still, I hope you smash that team 50 -- 0.

This OU/Texas game is like a coming out party for OU's defense. Damn.

Also, Bradford out? I missed the hit or fall or whatever it was, but I'd have to think reinjuring a fairly serious injury to begin with can't be good.

yeah, same play basically

ou has also lost their TE & left tackle. but yeah their d-line is pwning tx

fukkin musberger kinda sucks imo..he was so eager to go into his td call when it was pretty clear it was at least questionable and i could tell herbst was just waiting to say its prob a touchback

ou player just shouldnt have fielded that punt

this game

what's wrong with tx btw? why's the offense so bad all of a sudden?

GO PURDUE, btw, imo

^^this

The play where McCoy fumbled the ball was weird. Some of his decision-making is really not any better than it was when he was a freshman.

hes gettin hit on every play

o noes! OU lineback down.

ok, he's walking off unassisted. That's good.

Yea, OU.

Sort of.

I hate both teams.

Dammit, Purdue. Hold on!

haha why is peyton manning at this game

Whew, Purdue.

haha why is peyton manning at this game

The Colts have a bye and he's bored?

oh TN has a bye too

anyway this game has been really lame

It will become super-duper exciting if (a) Oklahoma wins and (b) Texas drops to No. 9 or lower.

(and Oklahoma doesn't rise to No. 9 or above.)

Oh . . . .

Never mind.

Oh . . .

Never mind (again).

8 turnovers & 215 yds of penalties

Sloppy game, I gather. Still, Texas won't drop many spots -- if at all -- because of it.

he might be bigger, but colt still looks like your friend's annoying little brother

Meanwhile, how has this Arkansas -- Florida game gotten to the 5:45 mark of the first quarter without Florida leading by 51 points? (Or at least by 1 point)

that fage fg was dope, how the hell was that guy wide open tho

yall i'm so happy right now - so many good games on

even tho this game is tied right now it still feels like it would take a miracle for ND to win - sry jesus \(o_O)/

xp yeah I am having trouble choosing what to watch cause I gotta watch the cal game but it is less interesting than usc/nd and florida/ark

and I value the one opportunity per year to root for usc whole heartedly

okay I don't regret watching the cal game. jahvid best just had the most impressive run I've seen in any game this year.

wow nebraska getting WORKED @ home by ttech

that was a nice run by best

yeah NEB got steamrolled in the first 5 mins

That Jahvid Best TD was just astounding. This does not seem like a game for defense, at all.

yeah I keep forgetting that this is the first half

I did not realize it until that timeout, but the Cal-UCLA ref appears to go to the same gym as Ed Hochuli. Dude is yoked. (There is really very little about this game that doesn't make me want to bury my head in shame right now, except for Jonathan Franklin.)

10 -- 6? 3d Quarter?!?

Oh please oh please oh please oh please. . .

hah. that was ridiculous. go arkansas!

d johnson <3 wow

yea 20-13!! aw @ verne saying wouldnt it be an incomplete pass? um he ran all that way haha

these commentators don't have much of a clue, do they?

SHUT UP ABOUT TEBOW ALREADY

i <3 verne + gary tho

need another fumble or else ark is in trouble

This game is headed toward an inevitable ending.

refereeing in the gator game was laughable

the notre dame fat ass weisses on the comeback here

want the drama of them scoring + going for 2

weiss would never

and spectacularly failing xp yea u prob rite

A Notre Dame win would be okay, I guess. We've got to take care of business ourselves (7:30PM).

i want charlie weiss to fail miserably, am vigorously rooting for USC

^^^^ this

dude has pink streaks in his hair ?

the officiating in college is so frustrating sometimes

yes

THEY ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL

My next "target game" is the VT/GT matchup.

Still, even if VT loses, the fact they killed us earlier this year means they probably won't drop below us, even if we win convincingly.

I have a limited, focused agenda.

whew

i dont even understand what that was

nbc bought notre dame another chance

Still, even if VT loses, the fact they killed us earlier this year means they probably won't drop below us, even if we win convincingly.

head-to-head never comes into the question once the season really gets going. i.e. oklahoma getting in over texas last year, FSU over miami in 2000 and miami being ranked higher than washington even tho washington beat miami that year

there's tons of examples

True, but the UM/VT game wasn't so long ago. I doubt voters would forget it this quickly.

clausen may have had his eyes closed on those last 2 throws

charlie weis postgame conferences after a loss = one of the best things about college football

True, but the UM/VT game wasn't so long ago. I doubt voters would forget it this quickly.

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

daniel, 2 loss VT will not be above a 1 loss miami. the polls just never shake out like that.

feel like i gotta take a shower after those last two 4th qs

yeah poll voter logic doesn't involve much complex thinking.

xp

I forgot VT had a loss. They are No. 4, after all. Fair enough.

awww charlie weis is sad

poor charlie maybe he should eat his troubles away

i'm not sure which fat coach i hate more: charlie weiss or rex ryan

kinda wish both of them would get eaten by ravenous wolves

its not crazy that ga tech could end the yr w/ only 1 loss - toughest game left is georgia (neutral site, right?) last game of the year

This Miami game is tooooooooooo close, even at 10 -- 0.

OK, that is what I was talking about. This Jacory Harris fellow is pretty good.

ESPN's GameCast is confusing me. Miami had 4th and 16. Next thing I see, UCF had it inside the Miami 10 (way too fast unless there was a fumble or interception (or amazing punt return, I guess)). Now it looks like UM has it again.

I am confused.

daniel, they snapped the punt over the punter's head & ucf got the ball at the 4. then they had a -4 yd rush, an inc. pass & then we picked it off on third down

Got it. I see 20 -- 7 now, so "whew."

yeah the INT was huge. offensive line is kinda gettin wrecked tonight tho. we can't run at all.

I noticed that on the stat sheet. Hope it's just an odd night. We should have a decent running game, tho I know the O-Line was a concern of the team's before the season began.

A few big teams had their running games stuffed today, I notice.

-15 yards rushing!

OTOH, UCF only has 35 yards rushing.

the rushing total is a bit skewed cuz of sacks but yeah there hasn't been much running. would like to see cooper running tonight but i don't think he has a carry. must still be hurt.

Meanwhile -- while I have no expectations of an upset -- South Carolina is within strking distance of Alabama.

Finally, some positive rushing yardage.

yeah our actual RBs have 23 rushes for 85 yds - not very good but certainly not as drastic as the rushing stats make it look. just those sacks.

Harris' stat sheet looks amazing.

Is he a legit-Heisman candidate? I haven't kept up, but I know the OU QB is basically out of it because of injuries. Making . . . Tim Tebow the frontrunner?

(21 of 27 for 300 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions).

win out the season and I'd say he's a v. good candidate. another loss and probably not.

he's got a really good shot of getting invited to NYC - don't think he'll win it unless we win out and get to like... #2 or #3 but that's probably not gonna happen

I dunno, considering the rest of your schedule...that doesn't seem too impossible

Yeah. I mean, we've got NC and USF. Could slip in another game, but we should win the others. No. 2 or 3 under those circumstances doesn't seem crazy.

I mean, Ohio State and VT are already gonna sink, Alabama/Florida/LSU all have more games to play with each other, Boise State and Cincinnati need blowout wins to keep their ranking. Miami could get there.

Sure. I mean, win tonight and we should be No. 7 next week.

I wouldn't be surprised if Boise slips - might be no. 6

Running game asserting itself as a good time.

Finally!

If South Carolina will just cooperate, my day will be complete.

dang kentucky beat auburn

Alabama's passing game has gone to shit. Thank Jeebus for Mark Ingram!

wait, so when does flexing your muscles after a sack = unsportsmanlike conduct? (thinking about everson griffen during usc/nd.) so frustrating when calls like that negate great plays.

sorry, *since when

excessive celebration calls in CFB are just out of control

jesus fuck this is terrible - UConn Football Player Killed In Campus Stabbing

Bradford out for the year. I guess he can come back for his senior year if he wants. Any consensus on where he would have gone in the draft had he not gotten hurt? I always assumed 1-3 but Im no expert.

yeah right about that

He probably would've displaced Stafford and be wasting away in Detroit right now. This might benefit Bradford in the long run... he could actually play on a team that's not fucked from the ground up by getting drafted lower.

I've already convinced myself that the Rams will take Tebow.

i think the best that bradford can hope for is that daniel snyder breaks the bank and trades like 68 draft picks to jump up to #1 to get him. which would be ironic & kind of fucked up considering his part native american heritage.

or else he's gonna, uh, end up on the rams, yeah (sorry, sam!)

i guess there is a possibility that the titans will dump VY and take him. that would be dope imo.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Vikings look at qbs in the draft too.

jeez, when will the Redskins finally change their damn name?

Anyway, if Bradford's going to end his season and declare for the draft I don't think he'll go anywhere near #1. First round probz, but he'll have to make a strong case for himself at the combine.

'10 is going to be relatively rich for QBs, but a lot of them have issues: Bradford's health, McCoy's decision-making, Pike's health, Tebow's ability to play in a pro system, Locker never having accomplished anything, etc., etc. There are going to be a shit-ton of teams gambling on dudes.

i think mcshay said that locker would be the first qb taken if the draft was right now. i think bradford will end up emerging at the top. also it obv really depends on who gets top picks. detroit, tampa, buffalo, oakland, kansas city won't be taking QBs. there are some wildcard potential QB teams like carolina, cleveland, seattle and tennessee.

i think there's gonna be a lot of defensive players & lineman taken at the top

eric berry
gerald mccoy
SUH
carlos dunlap
russell okung
ronaldo mcclain
taylor mays
greg hardy

I don't think Carolina's a wildcard at all. They'll take a qb in the first round if a good enough one remains.

they could def get mccoy (i'm not sold on him personally) or clausen where they will be at

I am hoping that all of the QB need results in a defensive awesome guy slipping to the Bolts.

There are going to be a shit-ton of teams gambling on dudes.

this is basically true w/ any qb pick ever though. recent sure things: alex smith, matt leinart, jamarcus russell, vince young...

I'll miss watching Rolando McClain on saturdays. ;_;

(and, as much as I hate the Vols, Eric Berry too)

I never thought Russell was a sure thing, btw. RAIDERS B DUM 4LYFE

this is basically true w/ any qb pick ever though. recent sure things: alex smith, matt leinart, jamarcus russell, vince young...

Of course, but those guys all went pretty much where they were "supposed" to be drafted, based on consensus of scouts before the draft. Whereas I think this year you're going to see a lot of guys going way beyond their perceived draft value because of need.

Especially when you consider that the free agent market for QBs is going to be dire. Can you think of one good QB who isn't locked up long-term?

I didn't think Russell was a sure thing, but when you look at the guy throw the ball, you can see how they made the mistake. Huge dude, rocket arm, great record at LSU...

Whereas the DHB pick was pure lunacy from the beginning.

he woulda been a first round pick regardless, I think

(jr)

Weird how there's usually only one first-round receiver who pans out in the NFL. It's usually the 3rd/4th/5th round dudes that produce in the pros.

The 2007 QB draft is pretty weird, btw:

Round 1:
Russell: sucks so far
Quinn: sucks so far

Round 2:
Kolb: totally invisible until playing pretty well recently.
Beck: what happened to this guy
Stanton: Liked him so much they drafted another QB in the first round two years later.

Round 3:
Edwards: Seemed like a steal, then the wheels came off.

Tyler Thigpen and Troy Smith later on... bad draft.

Beck: what happened to this guy

I know he's not a Dolphin anymore. I heard he was on another roster, but I can't remember whose.

dang that is weird

here are the WR picks from 06

Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State 1 25(25) Pittsburgh
Chad Jackson WR Florida 2 4(36) New England
Sinorice Moss WR Miami (FL) 2 12(44) New York
Greg Jennings WR Western Michigan 2 20(52) Green Bay
Travis Wilson WR Oklahoma 3 14(78) Cleveland
Derek Hagan WR Arizona State 3 18(82) Miami
Brandon Williams WR Wisconsin 3 20(84) San Francisco
Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame 3 26(90) Tampa Bay
Willie Reid WR Florida State 3 31(95) Pittsburgh
Brad Smith WR Missouri 4 6(103) New York
Cory Rodgers WR TCU 4 7(104) Green Bay
Jason Avant WR Michigan 4 12(109) Philadelphia
Demetrius Williams WR Oregon 4 14(111) Baltimore
Brandon Marshall WR UCF 4 22(119) Denver
Skyler Green WR LSU 4 28(125) Dallas
Domenik Hixon WR Akron 4 33(130) Denver

also colston went in the 7th round that year

this is actually an alright draft - holmes, jennings & of course marshall are stars. hixon is a very good complimentary receiver. brad smith, sinorice have been on rosters. stovall is still floating around i think.

There is a genuinely awesome WR in each round there, you just have to luck out and guess right.

07 was much better tho

Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech 1 2(2) Detroit
Ted Ginn, Jr. WR Ohio State 1 9(9) Miami
Dwayne Bowe WR LSU 1 23(23) Kansas City
Robert Meachem WR Tennessee 1 27(27) New Orleans
Craig Davis WR LSU 1 30(30) San Diego
Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio State 1 32(32) Indianapolis
Sidney Rice WR South Carolina 2 12(44) Minnesota
Dwayne Jarrett WR USC 2 13(45) Carolina
Steve Smith WR USC 2 19(51) New York
Jacoby Jones WR Lane 3 9(73) Houston
Yamon Figurs WR Kansas State 3 10(74) Baltimore
Laurent Robinson WR Illinois State 3 11(75) Atlanta
Jason Hill WR Washington State 3 12(76) San Francisco
James Jones WR San Jose State 3 14(78) Green Bay
Mike Walker WR UCF 3 15(79) Jacksonville
Paul Williams WR Fresno State 3 16(80) Tennessee
Johnnie Lee Higgins WR UTEP 3 35(99) Oakland
Ryne Robinson WR Miami (OH) 4 19(118) Carolina
Chris Davis WR Florida State 4 29(128) Tennessee
Steve Breaston WR Michigan 5 5(142) Arizona

Yeah, much better.

Also, all the #1s there are good except for shitty Craig Davis.

in other news...

Andy_Staples SEC suspends crew from Fla.-Ark game until Nov. 14.
7 minutes ago from TweetDeck

^ha. good job SEC. let them sort out these fukkin mlb playoff umps

i just saw that sec business... wish the pac 10 would follow suit instead of telling carroll to shove it like they always do. the late hit on taylor mays when the guy had both feet in bounds had my blood boiling.

http://brahsome.com/2008/03/27/kenneth-page-appears-to-have-a-large-bag-of-bills-for-an-amateur-athlete/

oh whoops!

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jesus fuck this is terrible - UConn Football Player Killed In Campus Stabbing

― johnny crunch, Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:24 AM (4 days ago)

in case any of yall were wondering about this, ive been getting these emails

Task force telephone 860-486-4800 (UConn Police)

Telephone tip line 860-486-4444 (leave message)

Email the task force at CrimeAle✧✧✧@uc✧✧✧.e✧✧.

INVESTIGATION UPDATE

UConn Police and the Connecticut State Police Major Crime Squad continue to work together as a task force to investigate the death of Jasper Howard that occurred on Sunday in the early morning hours. During this incident, an altercation occurred outside of the Student Union at approximately 12:30 AM after the building was evacuated due to a fire alarm during a sponsored University dance. The two stabbings occurred during this altercation. Several hundred people were in attendance at this dance and a number of people witnessed the stabbings. Significant progress has been made since the last update.

In response to our previous request, a number of people have contacted us already and forwarded images and other video taken on that night. It is known that other video and images exist that need to be reviewed. Anyone with images, photos, or video taken both inside and outside of the Student Union on the night of the stabbing incident should be submitted to investigators for review now. If you were there, and you recall now that you may have witnessed something that may have been related to the stabbings, investigators want to speak with you. The police investigation task force is requesting that all witnesses come forward to speak with task force investigators now. Thank you again for your assistance as we work together toward a conclusion to this investigation.

You may contact the task force by telephone at 860-486-4800 (UConn Police) or by using the telephone tip line at 860-486-4444. You may also email the task force at CrimeAle✧✧✧@uc✧✧✧.e✧✧.

UConn Police Chief Robert S. Hudd

Associate Vice President

Division of Public and Environmental safety

god this is a boring day

oregon/washington is good- locker interception in the end zone on 4th and 2, huge masoli completion on 3rd and 25, fake field goal for 1st down, td oregon... i'll keep watching.

I don't think locker is ever gonna live up to his potential (at least in at uw) ... usc game was a fluke

the announcers called him "the best quarterback in the pac-10" and i thought, "really?" he just threw his 2nd pick.

bama/tn was sorta boring for something so exciting

Bama's offense has completely vaporized in the last three weeks. Unless it's found, won't be undefeated much longer. grr. :(

Also, sad that Miami lost another. I really do like this Miami team, but a second loss pretty much just locked them out of the BCS. :(

havent watched that much of florida so this is the first time ive seen a good long shot of the new OC -- he coached my h.s. football team and i was in the health class he taught !

ha! awesome.

tcu is fun to watch, not in a high scorin way but they have a pretty creative offense - 14-0 at byu

mich st pullin off the hook and lateral

wow @ that pass

I really do like this Miami team, but a second loss pretty much just locked them out of the BCS. :(

I hate Miami now. And college football.

And life.

And fun.

good job iowa, keep alive your chance to ruin the bcs championship game

florida, bama and texas are all good, but they don't look like teams that should win a national championships...so I'm pretty sure the game's gonna suck no matter who plays who

That's usually the case, though. The #1/#2 game hasn't even been really close this decade except for the mega-game that was USC vs. Texas. The other bowls are usually better.

Miami/Ohio State was close, and epic.

Oh man, my memory is so bad.

yeah but it's usually been due to the fact that the wrong teams* were playing...like florida/usc coulda made a great game. this year there isn't even one truly dominant team. nobody should get the title.

*ohio state

nobody should get the title.

You sound like Lou Holtz.

also, fuck notre dame. I hope a terrorist attacks their stadium.

now I don't sound like him anymore I hope

at this point i'm hoping for iowa to go undefeated but to get shut out of the title game - maybe that will change the big 10's famously deadlocked position on a playoff

I doubt that would happen (this year)

The end of that Iowa game was pretty wowsers, though.

Of course I'm partial to Alabama, and want to see them make it every year, but if they don't, I'd love to see a TCU or Cincinnati get into the game and play Florida or Texas really hard.

today was a weird day - i was watching the miami game during all the other games today so i missed a lot of everything but

really impressive win by penn st imo - i've been begging on iowa because of their big win only being over psu who hadn't even beaten a team that was gonna make a bowl & i thought michigan was gonna play them tough & maybe even win so that was a dope murder by penn st

didn't see much of the bama game, no idea how in the world that ended up that way, bama has mad issues at QB, they should put julio jones at wildcat imo and go crazy with him & ingram & richardson. i'm v impressed by how disciplined kiffin's game plans have been - the UGA win prob assuaged him for the whole year but vs both bama & florida he seemed to be willing to take on all criticism for a really unadventurous offensive attack because it's going to keep them in the game always

didn't see any of the iowa game (was at the mizzou game, i got there right at kickoff cuz of the miami game & it was so packed that i was sitting on the grass behind the endzone behind the makeshift bleachers so i couldn't see anything and had to watch the game on the jumbotron - felt kinda surreal to see texas in person tbh - i did get to move at half when mad ppl vacated the joint but by then i was already thinking about sandwiches) but whoever they play in a bowl is going to smoke the shit out of them i truly believe - if it's USC it's gonna be another 30 point ritual sacrificing at the altar of jim delaney, but i'll be shocked if they make it thru - pretty sure ohio st will snatch them

i think the only way that the title game can be salvaged this year is if tcu/boise/cincy makes it vs bama/texas/florida - it will feel like a real ideological fight at that point - if it's uf/bama vs texas/usc it's just gonna be a super letdown - there might not be one interesting BCS game this year, depending on how it plays out

actually I'd like to see bama vs. usc

yeah okay i agree w this

uf / usc woulda been greattttt a few years ago, as I mentioned earlier. today it would just be two good teams that aren't as good as they were not that long ago.

i think USC might hon be the best team - if barkley doesn't get hurt (and corp wasn't as bad as he is) then they beat washington and are likely ranked #1 coming out of this week

yeah I hate usc but basically watch them close cause I'm a pac10 stan, and I don't think there's been a point in the last 4 years where they wouldn't be capable of playing *any* team in the country. PC era could have 5 national championships by now if it weren't for like, 4 games.

i mean, you could rightfully say that florida loses to arkansas if tebow doesn't play in that game, bama could've lost today if their backup was playing, texas could've lost to OU w/o mccoy, so i really don't think that the uw loss reflects that poorly on usc

bama would've lost today if it weren't for one dude jumping at the right moment! the fact that this alone is the difference between them being "the best" and ranked #10 or something is pretty retarded.

My dad dropped a new football tale on me today.

Background: ol' dad was both a placekicker AND a center in high school (which is hilarious, because he's only about 5'10" and 180) and then was a second-team kicker for Bear Bryant at Alabama between '68-70. He never saw any game time, sadly. :(

But today during the game he told me that after college he went to an open tryout the Dallas Cowboys held in Birmingham, even after he already had a job as an aerospace engineer and my mom was pregnant with me. They kept him around to the very end of the day before cutting him. LOL, my dad might've been a Cowboy... YUCK!

did you thank him for saving your family's reputation?

I should've. Playing for Tom Landry probably would've been pretty okay, though.

does he have any bear bryant stories?

None in first-person, because Bryant never interacted with the second team at practices. I'll ask what he's got, though.

i wish usc's offense and defense would both show up on the same day. other pac 10 teams seem to be able to stop oregon state, but that team gets under usc's defense's skin like no other.

eh they've ruined a few of our seasons too, oregon state always appear to capable of losing to or beating any team in the country.

UNC 7 VT 0 at half

wildly inaccurate tyrod taylor looks to have returned & the crowd is DEAD

in a way i don't even want VT to lose, i kind of started to enjoy the peace that came with the idea that there was probably no way that miami was going to win their division - not sure i want to be pulled back into that stress

who is watching the iowa-indiana game? these refs must be getting paid under the table by the big 10

you honestly might be right. all the cfb writers are going crazy on twitter re the refs

even if iowa wins, haven't they already lost? a game like this against indiana can't be explained away. i'm sorry.

yeah and they got noooo shot against ohio state, so we don't have to worry about these guys in the championship game. but damn, this ain't a top 5 team...not sure it's a top 20 team.

slmandel Its like Indianas scholarships only cover first halves
2 minutes ago from txt

Andy_Staples It's like the entire Indiana secondary had Iowa and the points.
2 minutes ago from TweetDeck

kirk firenz otm if the computers put iowa at #1 the correct response is "are u kidding me?"

Until the NCAA goes to a playoff format in top-tier football, I intend to enjoy the howling chaos fwiw. I can hardly wait for a year when every major powerhouse team loses twice.

well computers and computers - you can blame real people for putting iowa at #4

People are famously screwed up, too.

cal/arizona state game commentary has been fleetwood mac-themed for literally 20 minutes straight. so great.

last 5 minutes of the game have not been so great though

Q4 of the Iowa game was probably one of my favorite quarters of football all year. Playing into the wind during the second half was obviously a major factor in sucking.

lol welp

hey willie martinez

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do one of those for joe cox while you're at it

Any year GT is winning and UGA is losing (especially in the stinky manner in which they are this year) is a good and particularly enjoyable year for me!

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jorts illustrated

jorts... the final frontier

loool @ "jorts illustrated"

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L-R: my head, Wake Forest vs Miami

Heeyyyyyyyy . . . we won. Not impressively, I take it.

oregon not impressed w/ usc's d so far

state of oregon is ripping that D up

usc being 0-3 in their last 3 trips to oregon is pretty amazing

http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/catalog/died%20of%20dysentary%20classic.jpg

when's the last time usc's been down 3 touchdowns?

5 years or something?

slmandel Not to get ahead of ourselves, but note that SC has never lost by double-digits under Pete Carroll.
5 minutes ago from TweetDeck

this is unbelievable

onscreen stat just disproved that (11 v. notre dame)

I think they mean after pc's first year

but yeah it's possible they've *never* been down 21?

i doubt it

i doubt that they've ever been down 21

holy fuck... this defense sucks like none usc has ever had.

I just checked and the only time a team's scored more than 41 against Pete Carroll was the 50-42 win vs. Fresno State.

thankig u oregon nation!

too bad boise state was too much 4 u to handle

thankig u oregon nation!

^^^^^ This.

oregon v. florida national championship game would be good

yeah totally, oregon could win that

how did nm st vs osu happen? can some 1 xplain? srsly isnt it just wasteful that they travelled there?

first downs were 24 -2; yds were 559-62

boise state and oregon are now bffs - both teams need the other one to win out. but I guess boise state is almost guaranteed a bcs game, considering their schedule and oregon win now.

(considering their schedule meaning 'they really aren't gonna lose to louisiana tech, idaho, utah state, nevada or new mexico state')

how did nm st vs osu happen? can some 1 xplain?

Ohio State shopped around for a team who needed the money and was willing to take a completely shameful beating.