"I cried when I saw the Superdome. I laughed when I saw the Metrodome." NFL WEEK 15 Thread

49ers at Chargers (TNF)
Browns at Bengals
Redskins at Cowboys
Texans at Titans
Jaguars at Colts
Chiefs at Rams
Bills at Dolphins
Eagles at Giants
Lions at Buccaneers
Saints at Ravens
Cardinals at Panthers
Falcons at Seahawks
Broncos at Raiders
Jets at Steelers
Packers at Patriots (SNF)
Bears at Vikings (MNF)

11-5 last week, 130-77 overall

49ers at Chargers (TNF) -- chargers
Browns at Bengals -- browns
Redskins at Cowboys -- cowboys
Texans at Titans -- texas i guess
Jaguars at Colts -- colts
Chiefs at Rams -- chiefs
Bills at Dolphins -- dolphins
Eagles at Giants -- eagles
Lions at Buccaneers -- bucs
Saints at Ravens -- hmm...saints i think
Cardinals at Panthers -- ugh...cards
Falcons at Seahawks -- falcons
Broncos at Raiders -- raiders
Jets at Steelers -- steelers
Packers at Patriots (SNF) -- patriots
Bears at Vikings (MNF) -- bears

11-5 last week, 124-84 on the season

49ers at Chargers (TNF) - Chargers win, coaches start mailing resumes to San Francisco.
Browns at Bengals - Browns
Redskins at Cowboys - The Redskins have collapsed in every conceivable way. So...lolCowboys.
Texans at Titans - Texans
Jaguars at Colts - Taking the Jags to tie up the AFC South with a win here.
Chiefs at Rams - Tentatively picking the Rams while awaiting word of Cassel's status.
Bills at Dolphins - I think Dolphins, which means the Bills will win.
Eagles at Giants - Eagles
Lions at Buccaneers - Bucs
Saints at Ravens - Saints do it.
Cardinals at Panthers - Cards do it (ugly).
Falcons at Seahawks - Despite being on the opposite coast, Falcons on the road.
Broncos at Raiders - Raiders (again, but not by the same margin as before).
Jets at Steelers - Steelers
Packers at Patriots (SNF) - Pats
Bears at Vikings (MNF) - Bears

132-76 on the season, 11-5 last week

49ers at Chargers (TNF) SDSC
Browns at Bengals BROWN
Redskins at Cowboys COW
Texans at Titans TEX
Jaguars at Colts JAG
Chiefs at Rams CHIF
Bills at Dolphins LOLFINS
Eagles at Giants GIG
Lions at Buccaneers LIONS JOEMENTUM
Saints at Ravens STS
Cardinals at Panthers CARD
Falcons at Seahawks FALC
Broncos at Raiders RAID
Jets at Steelers PIT
Packers at Patriots PAT
Bears at Vikings CHI

11-5 / 126-83

49ers at Chargers (TNF) - Chargers
Browns at Bengals - Browns
Redskins at Cowboys - dallas
Texans at Titans - Texans
Jaguars at Colts - jags
Chiefs at Rams - ramz
Bills at Dolphins - bills
Eagles at Giants - giants
Lions at Buccaneers - Bucs
Saints at Ravens - Saints
Cardinals at Panthers - hilarious game - panthers
Falcons at Seahawks - atl
Broncos at Raiders - Raiders
Jets at Steelers - Steelers
Packers at Patriots (SNF) - Pats
Bears at Vikings (MNF) - Bears

49ers at Chargers (TNF)- Chargers but I think the Niners could give them a decent game.
Browns at Bengals - Browns, the Bengals are in the land of the lost. I don't get some of Cincy fans thinking dumping Carson Palmer would be the 'fix' for what is wrong. Oh well, if they go that way I'm sure Minnesota or some other borderline decent club that needs a somewhat competant QB who I wouldn't suprise all the sudden gets very good again will be happy. Good luck trying to win with some dregs or bringing back Kitna or some other damn Mike Brown foolishness.
Redskins at Cowboys - Cowboys I suppose.
Texans at Titans- Who knows...both of these clubs fell of the wall hard about 5 weeks into the season and haven't got their mojo back. Give me the Texans, as they might be able to build a 2 score lead early.
Jaguars at Colts- the Jville and Indy games have been really physicial over the past years. I'm taking the Colts at home, but I won't be suprised if the Jags win.
Chiefs at Rams- I'll take the Chiefs even if the Brodster is the qb.
Bills at Dolphins- I'll take the Dolphins, but if the Bills get up a td or two early they will win.
Eagles at Giants- Giants, as the Eagles defense is getting knicked up.
Lions at Buccaneers- Bucs but the Lions could make this one interesting.
Saints at Ravens- It's a bigger game for the Ravens, as I think NO is probably a bit safer for the wild card than the rest. I'm taking the Ravens as they are due to win a big one. If they lose this one, I don't know. It will be interesting to see how NO does in this one.
Cardinals at Panthers- Ugly and Fugly -- give me Arizona.
Falcons at Seahawks- Falcons but Seattle can be trap city.
Broncos at Raiders- Broncos are making the Bengals look like the Pats in the effort dept., give me the Silver and Black to win.
Jets at Steelers- Jets are going down in flames. Steelers are pretty banged up but it is much funnier watching the Jets fall apart. Pittsburgh to win.
Packers at Patriots (SNF) - Pats, until proven wrong...which I don't know can happen at this point.
Bears at Vikings (MNF)- I'm taking the Bears, but this one could get weird.

Last week 11-5, for the year 139-69

It was a pretty weird start to the year on who was any good, but really, it has gotten much more predictable for the last 4-6 weeks.

TRIPGATE DAY 3

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5919573

That dude must make some serious change to even want to hang around or the Jets are back paying him in some other way, as 25K fine and a few week suspension is pretty freaking steep.

Pro Football Talk reported that Patrick Ramsey is one of the options the [Vikings are] considering, but Frazier didn’t get into specific names.

This just keeps getting better and better.

hahah where did this week's thread title originate?

49ers at Chargers (TNF) - bolts
Browns at Bengals - bengals
Redskins at Cowboys - boys
Texans at Titans - texans
Jaguars at Colts - jags
Chiefs at Rams - chiefs
Bills at Dolphins - fins
Eagles at Giants - giants
Lions at Buccaneers - bucs
Saints at Ravens - saints
Cardinals at Panthers - cards
Falcons at Seahawks - falcons
Broncos at Raiders - raiders
Jets at Steelers - steelers
Packers at Patriots (SNF) - pats
Bears at Vikings (MNF) - bears

11-5 last week, 125-83 overall

wow everyone was 11-5

I cried when I saw the Superdome.
I laughed when I saw the Metrodome.

If New Madrid ever manages to hit St. Louis, I'll be all like "The Rams moved from Los Angeles?"

― http://tinyurl.com/ccccccccccccccccc (Pleasant Plains), Monday, December 13, 2010 1:29 PM

It was sourced from in-house.

http://i.imgur.com/3hyM0.jpg

hahah

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5922926

Tannenbaum said Alosi acted alone, that he wasn't told by anyone in the organization to instruct players to stand in a line. Addressing the media Monday, Alosi claimed he wasn't instructed by anyone to create a human wall.

Cumberland backed that stance when asked if anyone else asked him to stand in the line. "Just Sal," he said.

Tannenbaum and coach Rex Ryan both insisted Monday that the players aren't coached to do that.

bullshit

total bullshit.

lol @ bert flacco!

bullshit bullshit bullshit

Jets are so full of shit

And now the dude has been suspended indefinitely? I kind of feel like ppl are going a little nuts over this now...like do we really want the guy's whole career for this?

he's a classic fall guy--working in the nfl sucks

RARRR this makes me angry

don't feel too bad for him, he's probably an asshole

^^^

yeah, you're right. Christ we're talking about the Jets, wtf am I getting so bunged up about.

Sal Alosi's dad killed Jimmy Hoffa with his bare fucking knees.

the ryan family is poisonous, man

capturing the ryans

joining evil ex pats/jets/broncs team videographer steve scarnecchia, its been a year of bad, out-of-control staffers. slike, "hey coaches, nobody thinks your deniability is that plausible."

This weeks title looks like a line that would fit in some old Dylan tune.

Millen is brutal

If the Chargers don't re-sign Vincent Jackson I am gonna be BUMMED.

Um, Vincent Jackson's kinda cuet...

WAHT

Shanahan is benching McNabb this weekend and starting Grossman. RIP Redskins.

Shannahan's really bucking for the naughty list this Christmas

http://sfist.com/attachments/Christopher%20Rogers/rex_fuckitimgoingdeep.jpg

Another one

WAHT

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/hiestand-tv/2010-12-16-nfl-music-soundtrack_N.htm?csp=34sports&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomSports-TopStories+%28Sports+-+Top+Stories%29

A new kind of NFL scoring: adding music to TV game coverage.

Don't laugh. Fox will formally announce today that it will do that on its regional Arizona Cardinals-Carolina Panthers game Sunday (1 p.m. ET) after an unannounced test on last week's Seattle Seahawks-San Francisco 49ers game. Fox Sports President Eric Shanks on whether such soundtracks will pop up on Fox's upcoming Super Bowl: "It's a possibility."

Given you're bombarded with mood-prompting music in TV shows, ads and movies — and in stadiums and arenas during games — it's seems inevitable that sideline shots of, say, Bill Belichick could end up being accentuated by Lady Gaga's Poker Face. That's Jay-Z's I Know What Girls Like taking us inside the heads of kickers who just made game-winning field goals. Cue It's Raining Men as players run out of tunnels. Everything going wrong for a team? Who you gonna call?Ghostbusters!

Fox's Shanks says game playlists could include famous artists — "the rule is you use it just once and don't edit it" — but will also draw on original medleys. For Sunday's game, Fox has 15 new cuts from James Cardoni, who has composed music for the prime-time show CSI.

But having cuts you'd hear in movies, like spooky chords when babysitters find out the calls are coming from inside the house, is one thing. Knowing when to use them is another. "This is all in the execution," Shanks says. "Just like music in movies, you have to use it at the right times. And imagine trying to score a movie the first time you're seeing it." Plus, he says, announcers during last week's test game needed to get their groove on "to get a feel whether to keep talking or let the music build the suspense or drama for the next play."

Asked if NFL games might cross-promote Fox movies by using their theme songs, Shanks says "We haven't gotten that far, but that's really interesting. Have an NFL '70s night when American Idol has a '70s night? Maybe there's cross-promotion there." And purists really shouldn't write off this idea until, say, they see a holding replay set to Your Cheatin' Heart.

FUCK YOU FOX

As long as the only song they ever ever use is the intro to "Jump Into the Fire" by Nilsson, I'll be all right with this.

what an awful idea

Maybe the "Layla" coda whenever the Ravens win on an overtime interception.

18-game season. Musically enhanced games on television. Blah blah blah.

If the NFL keeps going this direction, I guarantee college ball is going to resurge in popularity.

Worst idea ever.

i would say i'm surprised but the nba allows arenas to play actual songs during games too so matter of time i guess

And of course it's FOX. You know what'd be even more awesome? One of those scroll screens running down one side that shows everyone's tweets or texts about the game, like they do on that late night music video show on Fuse that shows ppls OMg TeXTS Abt FaV3 mUzIK!!!!! And then everyone gets their own loaded gun to put in their mouth.

FFS people. Come on.

They should put a chip in the ball and make it stream tracers like they did in the NHL.

Or maybe let the players come up with their own nicknames for teh backs of their jerseys – O WAIT.

^ this could easily be a TRON promotional tie-in
xpost

Well, they should put a chip in the ball, but not for that reason. But it would be great for goal line decisions.

they should let the viewers vote on which play should be run next

lol

they should let the viewers vote on which play should be run next

amazing fantasy implications here

and they should have celebrity referees

Screen pass to the right 18%
LONG BOMB 82%

(the viewers will choose long bombs every time)

they should let the viewers vote on which play should be run next

shotgun, five-wide vs. seven-man blitz every down

and then the studio will decide that the players play without helmets so that the viewers can see their faces better

was his arm coming forward/did he get both feet down? let the viewers decide!

(which might be faster than the current system)

I might be willing to let this go if overtime possessions can be decided by flipping Joe Buck.

"4th and long, and the viewers have chosen 'strap the ball to a rabid bear'"

One thing I've admired about the NFL is that it hasn't gotten as candy-assed as say, MLB. Can't wait for the Pro Bowl to determine play-off home fields.

xpost hahaha! that has to be our Week 16 thread title.

I probably would laugh if a 2-minute offense was scored with "Yakety Sax" tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctqUp2P0YBY

^^^ (Honestly could've use some tracers on that.)

Yup.

u know this is gonna be nonstop nickleback/creed/slipknot shit don't you?

i'm gonna need a plexiglass shield for my TV bc of all the projectiles I'll be launching at the screen

slipknot? i picture it as more like swelling hans zimmer bs

you guys are both wrong -- it's just gonna be another way for fox to sell their show -- "oh, daughtry, you have an album coming out? perfect!"

has anyone watched sportscenter in the past month? they play at least two new my chemical romance songs during each episode

i would TOTALLY SUPPORT this initiative if it were NFL Films production music but don't fool yourself, it's gonna be horrible middleamerica friendly mainstream pop with a lean toward hard rock/pseudoxtian rock and occasional breakout rap/rnb hits sprinkled in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8T7BYcvrB4

this will be played at some point

so yeah, what jordan said basically

i love this drawing of law firm

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1217/nfl_cm_pats_576.jpg

If you don't love James Harrison you are a buster.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/12/17/harrison-fines.ap/index.html

"18-game season. Musically enhanced games on television. Blah blah blah.

If the NFL keeps going this direction, I guarantee college ball is going to resurge in popularity."

I think it is time to buy those TV rights to the CFL now.

Either that or Direct TV will have an NFL package where you can pay to turn off all of that bullshit and just have a game, no announcers just the game.

this is maybe a bannable offense, but . . . the nfl is pretty bullshit already without the 18 musically enhanced games.

i mean, it's very rich people charging absurd money to see disposable reprobates try to maim each other, plus some other stuff.

the only game i *really* wanted to see this season was pats-bears because of the snow. which turned into a joke and wasn't on in my area anyway.

i guess it's pretty much over now, because everyone has new stadiums, but the whole 'we'll leave town (omg!) if the taxpayer doesn't build a sweet new stadium for eight events a year' thing was execrable.

the football-as-warfare and players-(i.e. white qbs)-as-heroes is fucked up too. commentators wondering aloud 'how did he have the *courage* to make that pass?'

but most of all: it's boring.

parity is good in that the nfl has no yankees/red sox, but . . . it's left us with a host of mediocre teams that through good fortune go 9-7 one year then 4-12 the next.

have you been to a game lately? it's four hours of hanging out with 70,000 drunk, bloodthirsty assholes watching 20 minutes of actual action between timeouts. (don't get me wrong -- i'm a drunk asshole right now, i just wouldn't want to be around that many others of us with any regularity.)

for me, television coverage crossed a line a few years ago when they introduced the commercial break after the score *and* the commercial break after the kickoff. i guess it's handy that you can read a magazine, occasionally glance up at the game and not miss anything, but you could also do that watching sandra lee.

i think the great thing about the nfl was that it once *commanded* sundays, with a notable adjunct on monday night. (at one point when i was a kid, my bedtime was 10pm -- except on monday, when i could stay up until halftime.) now there are thursday games on some bullshit network no one gets plus sunday night plus a no-longer-choice game monday night etc.

i want to like it. i've followed it since i could walk -- i learned the multiplication table for sevens before three, four and six because of football. but it kind of sucks ass.

You need to gamble on it more. Then you might care, albeit artificially.

<3

yeah i quit my fantasy league after last year, despite a fairly successful run

PP otm

haha so do you disagree?

i mean, it's very rich people charging absurd money to see disposable reprobates try to maim each other, plus some other stuff.

Paying money to watch the NFL is dumb.

i guess it's pretty much over now, because everyone has new stadiums, but the whole 'we'll leave town (omg!) if the taxpayer doesn't build a sweet new stadium for eight events a year' thing was execrable.

Guess you're not a baseball fan or a basketball fan either?

the football-as-warfare and players-(i.e. white qbs)-as-heroes is fucked up too. commentators wondering aloud 'how did he have the *courage* to make that pass?'

sure, but this has nothing to do with why the game is good. Put the game on mute and play some tunes.

parity is good in that the nfl has no yankees/red sox, but . . . it's left us with a host of mediocre teams that through good fortune go 9-7 one year then 4-12 the next.

Nonsense! The Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chargers, Colts, Eagles, Giants, and Packers have either been good or great for like a decade!

have you been to a game lately?

NFL is much better on TV, I agree.

Guess you're not a baseball fan or a basketball fan either?

yeah but there's (slightly) more rationale for a facility that will host 40/81 games in a year.

the pats have been good. the steelers and colts have been fairly good. the others have been on the good side of up and down.

which of the week 14 games were you excited by (seriously) ahead of time? some of them *were* actually exciting. but i don't think the tight jax-raiders or tampa-skins games were an example of the nfl's greatness.

haha i guess i still care enough to reiterate: lol skins

mookie, tivo increased my enjoyment of the NFL like 500%
no pregame. no threeandouts. no halftime. if the game feels like it's in a rut, i jump forward fifteen minutes. slomo recaps of any and every play. a game takes about an hour and a half to two hours to watch. i don't really like to watch football any other way these days, except in a large group.

downside: don't get to participate in the back and forth on the "this week's games" ilnfl thread

ilnfl is one of my favorite things about the nfl.

my fave things about nfl
1. iggles
2. ilnfl
3. hating cowboys
4. fantasy football
5. big hits
6. something to talk about with almost every american
7. drinking cheap beer
8. idk other good stuff i'm sure
9. desean jackson

i think 8 is "comical gifs"?

put me down for "football is awesome". i wouldn't try to explain why - it's just something that happens that is intrinsically wonderful like a rainbow or a parrot that says fuck. the small number of games each season is the secret sauce. they don't need to be fucking with that recipe.

my favorite things about NFL

Raiders!
tailgating with friends
ILNFL
going to losing games for what seems like an eternity, then your team suddenly beats a team they're not supposed to beat. Best feeling ever.
NFL films
watching the defense throw blocks on an awesome running play.
quarterback sacks (the other team, not my team)
the history of the game, the way the players tell stories like soldiers who fought in wars
hating the broncos and the chargers
hating the Cowboys

oh and HD tv

^good list

i mean, it's very rich people charging absurd money to see disposable reprobates try to maim each other, plus some other stuff.

honestly i get your frustration but saying something like this makes you sound like you don't even like the idea of football--it's a really complex, strategic, interesting game and it's by far the most intellectually rigorous of the major sports imo

I can't argue with Mookie. Speaking for myself, I know I don't take the games very seriously. I've never looked up to a football player. I've never had a team that I favored or called my own. I do turn my nose up at the "fans" in the Sunday commercials who don their jerseys for game day. I work with people who every Monday, rag each other on how "you" did in "your" loss and how "we" got screwed by the refs. It's even more comical because I work in Little Rock, Ark., and those we's and you's are referring to the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Washington Redskins.

Mookie's right about the owners hijacking a town into building a stadium with tax dollars. I'd argue maybe that it's like college football where the coaches make more money than the math professors, because they bring in the revenue. The highest-paid public employee in the state of Arkansas is Bobby Petrino. Why? Well, he definitely had a better year than the Director of the Agricultural Economic Commission. When the stadiums don't live up their standards, or the team moves, or the roofs start caving in, then you have a problem.

I used to be a huge baseball fan until the '94 strike pretty much killed my passion. Now all I see are wild-card winners, shattered records that mean nothing and hot dog races. It'll be really interesting to see how the bullshit holds after the NFL lockout next year.

P.S. The NFL hasn't taken a dime from me. If suckas want to paint themselves up silly and go stand in the cold for $75, I'm libertairan enough to say have at it to them.

i mean, it's very rich people charging absurd money to see disposable reprobates try to maim each other, plus some other stuff.

honestly i get your frustration but saying something like this makes you sound like you don't even like the idea of football--it's a really complex, strategic, interesting game and it's by far the most intellectually rigorous of the major sports imo

i understand what you mean, i think. and the intellectual demand *is* there, wonderlic aside, in the complexity of modern football schemes.

what i was thinking of when i wrote that was pittsburgh te heath miller nearly being decapitated (no call) against the ravens while pittsburgh qb ben rothlisberger led the steelers to a late victory. i'm a steelers fan.

Big hits are scary as hell, but that's just part of the deal and always has been.

Speaking for myself: it's a lot easier to be a football fan when all your friends are hipsters who hate sports. My sporting life is basically between me and my television (and the internet), and it's pretty sweet that way.

My favorite thing about the NFL is that I spend a football Sunday in any number of different ways and be totally happy. I can be happy idly watching the game while doing homework or something and only really paying attention when something important is happening. I can be happy watching it with full emotional investment in one particular team, completely throwing all logic and reason aside for the single focus of "I want the Packers to win". (If Rodgers is out, I will not be doing this on Sunday, though...) I can be (and usually am) happy watching an interesting game between teams I enjoy watching for a particular player or style of play without any regard for who wins or loses. I can watch two or three games at once, if the TV setup permits, and whatever else is going on in my life goes away for a while. Sometimes I try and watch a single game really intently to learn more about football strategy. Sometimes I come here and just try and make jokes. Sometimes I watch with people. Ideally they are from the state of Wisconsin.

the football-as-warfare and players-(i.e. white qbs)-as-heroes is fucked up too. commentators wondering aloud 'how did he have the *courage* to make that pass?

Real courage is our boys over seas. Never forget. 9/11.

https://sports.bodog.com/sports-betting/football-player-props.jsp

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I've never had a team that I favored or called my own. I do turn my nose up at the "fans" in the Sunday commercials who don their jerseys for game day. I work with people who every Monday, rag each other on how "you" did in "your" loss and how "we" got screwed by the refs. It's even more comical because I work in Little Rock, Ark., and those we's and you's are referring to the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Washington Redskins.

I once had a conversation with a guy who was doing the whole Noam Chomsky 'poindexter' style 'I don't understand why people root for teams why do people like sports what do people say *we* when referring to a team that they've never played on' etc etc. I know that isn't exactly what you're saying but I think it's pretty obvious why people root for teams, even if they aren't teams playing in the city they live in. For one, people root for teams for a variety of reasons -- I root for Philly teams even tho I live in NY and work in CT. Why? Because I am originally from Philly. But also people like to feel a part of a larger group of people and rooting for a team gives you that feeling. It's nice to look at the reprobates screaming like lunatics (on twitter or IRL) and think 'hey, these are my kind of reprobates.' I won't speak for anyone but myself but I feel constantly alienated from other people in so many areas of my life it's nice to have one thing, one day of the week, where I can root for a group of talented exceptional athletes, hang out on ILNFL with people who appreciate these games, and feel like I'm a part of something bigger than myself. It's not a totally different feeling from listening to pop radio, or watching a sitcom with a laugh track. It's silly and utterly meaningless, but it's nice to experience anyway.

Also, and I know you're not really ragging on sports in general, but I want to point out that human beings have been watching each other play sports basically since we had human beings. There's something in our brains that lights up when a guy makes an amazing catch or, I guess, throws a discus really far, or probably brings down a mammoth with only four spears or something like that.

My only complaint really about the NFL atm is it seems so inundated with penalties and refs measuring distance and commercial breaks that so many games have absolutely no rhythm and are really boring to watch. I think it's a problem that has become worse and worse every year and I understand that the league is trying to protect players and stuff but I think primarily the NFL rules book needs to be totally rewritten to run smoothly and intuitively.

^^^excellent post.

i agree esp. about common ground with others--it's wonderful to have something to talk about with your uncle or co-worker or barber whoever that you prob don't have much in common with otherwise.

Yeah, nice one Mordy! Well said.

mordy, tivo addresses that rhythm complaint nicely. skipping challenge decisions and running-out-the-clock drives and commercial breaks beats the system

yeah, unfortunately i don't have tivo (and can't really imagine spending money on it atm)

well cmon over to my place!

disposable reprobates

http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/5342/scaredcheerleader.gif

I would hate not watching a game live, tbh. Yeah, I can totally see the benefits that come with watching a game on dvr/tivo, but the "being behind the rest of the world" thing would bother me with football in a way it wouldn't with a regular tv show.

have you been to a game lately? it's four hours of hanging out with 70,000 drunk, bloodthirsty assholes watching 20 minutes of actual action between timeouts. (don't get me wrong -- i'm a drunk asshole right now, i just wouldn't want to be around that many others of us with any regularity.)

http://football-futbol-soccer.com/images/2h.jpg

xp lol is that how Brandon Lloyd gets dates?

in all seriousness, though, mookie, I've been to about 12 NFL games, and i've never really experienced that. It might depend on the city and the fanbase, but most of the people in the seats around me have generally been agreeable, or at worst, annoying, but I've never run into the 'rampant idiotic drunkenness' at games.

Even Dolphin-Jet games, which I've seen multiple fistfights at, haven't gotten to Italian soccer league levels. I personally love going to football games. at least, in outdoor stadiums, in nice weather.

there's a tivo balance that's necessary to enjoy a game. It's not like i can watch it a day later, but if you give the game an hour to warm up and jump in, you generally finish right around the same time as the rest of the world.

^^^^^^. This. when it's too far delayed, I'm always too tempted to either A. look up the final score, or B. fast forward really far.

Plus I've had outcomes spoiled twice this year before I had the chance to watch on DVR :(.

(don't get me wrong -- i'm a drunk asshole right now, i just wouldn't want to be around that many others of us with any regularity.)

^^ week 16 title yn

end this tivo heresy now

there's a tivo balance that's necessary to enjoy a game. It's not like i can watch it a day later, but if you give the game an hour to warm up and jump in, you generally finish right around the same time as the rest of the world.

yeah i do like starting a game late and using tivo for like the first half and haltime and then watching the second half live.

i agree with mookie but i also know cocaine and cigarettes are bad for people too and yet here i am working in the media in nyc. i do think people are being overly precious about the music thing - haven't they been playing musical interstitials and crap for years? i didn't notice anything different during their "sneak peek" last week!

wait are you saying you watched seattle vs san fran? are you okay?

I watched it and the music sounded really weird and out of place to me. The announcers explained it sort of sheepishly and didn't mention it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjEhEFBu-C4
i mean would you believe this was a football player?

i would barely believe he was a modells employee

Plus I've had outcomes spoiled twice this year before I had the chance to watch on DVR :(

I don't understand this at all!!!! It already happened dude, go look at the score! I'd feel like the biggest dumbass in the world sitting there getting all hyped up over a football game that ALREADY ENDED and yet I'm sitting there getting upset about the outcome INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE SCORE. BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY OVER.

well, there are definitely more like me, but my reasoning for doing it is because unlike other sports, I get to see my team play precisely once per week. So each game is an event. Missing a game feels shitty because then I have to wait another week for the next one, so I like to replicate watching it live the best I can, on delay. so I can at least see how things unfolded and almost feel like I watched it live.

Yea, I could watch the taped game after I already know what happened too, but that's so effing boring.

I tend to get busy with obligations and activities unfortunately, so this becomes necessary more and more frequently over the years.

It does kinda suck, but I find just getting the score to be far less satisfying. As opposed to basketball/baseball, when back when I was a fan of either, if I missed the game, I missed it, because there are so goddamned many of them.

IT's funny, i think it was the Baltimore/Texas game last week. I was way behind on the ILNFL thread and toward the bottom, I started seeing all these O SHIT! type posts. The game was on in the other room, delayed on the DVR by about five minutes. Right around the time I got to those comments, I heard the crowd going wild. So I got up, rewound it a few, and saw Texas tie the game.

My friend used to have a television that I knew was slightly delayed (at least 3-5 seconds) behind mine, because we'd often be watching while we were on AOL Instant Messenger and he'd get mad that I spoiled a play before he saw it.

So then I used to enjoy typing shit liek "OMG FUMBLE" or "AWW FUCK INT" and he'd be faked out until he caught up and realized it didn't really happen.

thank god for peer to peer streaming football, cuz my Fins game ain't on locally thanks to the Jags, and I'm still bedresting. not gonna miss one of the few games I can see live.

I just started realizing when the ESPN guys were talking about Shanahan that maybe some of Al Davis's most WTF decisions re: coaching have actually turned out to not actually be so WTF after all. I mean, sure, Shanahan was successful with Elway, but he's been a fucking loser since then. And Lane Kiffin? LOL.

Of course, letting Gruden get away only to have him beat you in the Super Bowl the next season is all-time D'OH.

ahh, the Bill Callahan era. what a bizarre head coach.

It was a sensible hire. Just a terrible result.

he started out just fine, even if he inherited that team, but boy was that next season a mess...calling the linemen fatasses, being accused of half-assing the season, et al.....

idk how I feel about the Raiders being good. On the one hand, I feel awful for the fans so I want them to have a competent team, but then it validates Al Davis. tbh though I'm leaning more towards happy that the Raiders seem closer to respectability because it's time for a new laughingstock.

Art Shell Mk II might have been the worst. But Callahan was awful.

Al Davis is a bigger pain in the ass when the Raiders are losing, imo
Winning at least makes him "happy"

he looks more and more like rizzo the rat each year

red zone is now available in the uk?! blimey

i want someone to closely monitor the arizona-carolina game for the music thing

maybe dont watch it with your eyes tho, just listen

oh hey it's JON KITNA vs REX GROSSMAN

i hope the skins get maimed for benching McNabb

I actually have two good 1pm kickoff games to choose from. It's a weird situation that I haven't experienced heretofore this year.

yea webster

huge eli sack

18 yard sack!

ugh giants special teams are deplorable

Jason Witten best tight end in NFL y/n

No. Vernon Davis is the best tight end in NFL.

Not this week, he wasn't.

Henne is gonna be the death of me. after his monster game against Oakland, he's played QB like an 11 year old playing Madden.

austin collie's back; this is the peyty i know and love

xp its amazing to me that austin collie can make such an impact on manning & the colts offense functioning but it appears he does

oh FOR FUCK'S SAKE

I'm not going to sit here and complain about my stolen RZ feed, but is everyone else who is watching getting commercials, too? I thought it was commercial free..

carolina is screwing up its lock on the #1 pick

is this Bizarro week in the NFL? so far results very diff than expected, tho lot of game left in all

xxp havent seen any ads, watching on tv

i'm getting ads on my web feed

seems like it would screw up the whole concept of the channel to have ads on it

maybe too many a-holes are watching it on the internet :-/

gddamn @ flacco pass

my god none of these games have scores which please me

if the Saints lose this, are they pretty much screwed for the playoffs?

btw redzone stream is from a UK broadcast so that's why we're getting commercials

that is an outrage!

fuckin british takin our sports and putting goddamn commercial breaks all up everywhere in em

RONNIE BROWN!

hoo Mike Thomas just stole that punt return td.

i tell ya Vernon Carey's injury has fucked up the right side of Miami's o-line more than I could have ever feared.

Jags could easily steal this one right back. wouldn't bes urprised

When you see the replay in slow-mo, it's clearly not a fair catch signal. But in real-time, I thought it was a signal just like the Colts did.

that's cuz the damn fair catch signal looks like an SOS signal. all a fair catch should be is a dude shouting "EY LEMME CATCH THE DAMN BALL"

Benny Sapp went from wau to smh in less than 2 seconds....

mannings made more passes this season than any other and its only week 15 o_O

o man collie

austin collie just got knocked the fuck out

oh fuck did his neck take a blow. yow.

JESUS CHRIST Austin Collie is the unluckiest son of a bitch in the league.

oh god. sometimes i don't know about football, guys :(

lol at silent stadium except one guy chanting WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK

btw just tried watching the redzone channel and my god youd have to be completely insane

btw just tried watching the redzone channel and my god youd have to be completely insane

you feel insane at first, but then it becomes a part of you

btw guys antonio gates is far and away the best te in the nfl

they really upheld the fumble in the giants game?

GMEN

redzone channel is the greatest thing of all time. if the nfl would make subscriptions to that channel available online i would pay $$$ for it.

having said that, all joking/irony aside, please make this british dude stop talking about football.

redzone is great

ok i sbd u xp

!!!!!

that is your 1st amendment right joseph

u asked for it, literally

man NFC West Winner looking more and more likely to be 7-9

man fuck the Bucaneers and their fairweather fans.

gary kubiak is so getting fired

having said that, all joking/irony aside, please make this british dude stop talking about football.

lol, was about to post something similar

part of the joy of watching redzone is scott hansen's contained mania

would like to see playoff football return to Houston, but every season but last, Texans' performance never seems to correspond to their talent level.

the red zone channel on vshare that we turned on during half time seems to be sky sports actually too? we're all stuck on this same thing, right? why does kfc cost FIVE POUNDS over there? guys that shit is worth $2.

haha scott hansen

horseshoe did you vote in my best Nfl Network personality poll

five pounds of kfc, $2

USA USA^

no, like all the most important polls i couldn't decide and missed my chance :(

boring, but probably would have had to go for rich eisen he is just so lovable

xxp

i voted for randy moss

he's a good one, yes

i think i voted for randy too, but eisen weighed heavily on my mind

im not familiar w/that actual guy but i like the football player randy moss

he is like a cherub, eisen

i miss nfln commercials, btw, where have they been?

cracking up at the disdain for the Carolina/Arizona game by Terry and this RZ guy. btw, the USA RZ link is up now, but the vid player is kind of annoying.

yeah nfln commercials have been nonexistent or charmless lately - smh

the sunday ticket ads have been awesome though, im a big fan of Mr. Troy Barkman

jacksonville tryin to lose this game

love troy barkman

lol "rex grossman, confused in the backfield" <3 u, scott hansen

fold your hands, sack like a tuck

this is also the jacksonville jaguars i know and despise

jesus Henne has regressed ridiculously this season, he's almost back where he was last year.

fuck the Jags, move em some place else!

jax needs some manning ints atm

shut your mouth

good call, dont want any inadvertent manning passes going in there

haha i h8 u

decided to stay home from the Raiders Broncos game..so bummed. Stupid shitty weather.

ok jax u disgust me switching to nola/balt

F*** IT HE'S GOIN DEEP

that sucks, VG :/

ryan fitzpatrick is throwing crazy shit today

you can't really blame rex grossman for turning the ball over twice in this football game, because this is a football game in which rex grossman is playing

yea, Miami apparently has a contract forbidding victories at home this year.

how the hell can you be 1-5 at home and 6-1 on the road?

Rex Grossman makes punters completely unnecessary

that INT out to the flat was a bit LOL

ok brees just fumbled on 2 out of 3 plays

Holy shit could this Giants Eagles game have more fumbles & int's?

rooting for NYG, but not as much as I'm rooting for a decent game. Go Eagles!

cmorn jagsonville

steven tyler is an american idol judge now

hey jags i hear manning likes the slant pattern might awnna look into that

3rd and goal WASHINGTON and.... FALSE START

hay red zone, enough of this bucs-lions game

'one of the things derrick mason likes to do is go on karaoke tours of the elderly community'

BETHEA

that vick could even still throw that bomb that well off balance is insane

NY-ers -- that Cavit wine ad is racist, right?

brees slicin n dicin rite now

baltos dfense has been fraudulent all yr imo

craazy tipped td catch by nola!

r u all redzone usrs seeing this

i saws it

p nuts

ANDY REID U GOTTA THROW THAT RED FLAG

getting the feeling redskins are going to pull ahead in this football game, thus setting the stage for grossman to UNLEASH THE DRAGON on the last series, turn it over, and lose

is andy reid fucking kidding

omg santana moss does the little spin move and actually breaks a tackle with it, this never happens

constant reaction shots of mcnabb on the sideline like UH

coooooooooooooooley TOUCHDOWN

lol @ SLOMO CLOSE UP of reid putting the flag in his pocket

tie game!

that lance moore td catch was insane

brian billick is a v annoying announcer imo

billick's been driving me nuts this year, seems like he gets all the falcons games :[

he has a v high words-to-ideas ratio

maybe stfu sometimes, brian billick

the worst thing is when these big time coaches become color guys and decide 'hey its easy money for no work' and do no preparation and bring no insight to the table when theoretically they should be blowing our minds with advanced football knowledge

at least chucky earns his paycheck

YO REX GROSSMAN IS DOING HIS THING. WTF?

Rex Grossman to the world: 'Hi haters'

Rex Grossman, 4TD passes. Just another sign the world ends in 2012.

BREAKING: Redskins have signed Rex Grossman to an 11-year, $175 million contract.

that's exactly what it feels like, like billick has settled into his smarter-than-the-others status and doesn't prepare/have anything of interest to say anymore

skins backed up at the 10. so here's where Bad Rex is liable to show up

the dolphins must get rid of the wildcat. also: chad henne looks good now, but he never, ever looks past his originally-intended receiver, which really hurts him.

recovered onside kick by Philly!

woah, and then like a 40 yard run by Vick

oh my god. it's a seven point game.

unbelievable how unprepared nyg was for that onsides

goose thinks every call should be time for a play action. every call

man fuck the Dolphins this year. they make no sense. now eliminated from playoffs, are 1-6 at home, yet 6-1 on the road.

started 2-0, then have alternated win+loss for every game since then, regardless of teh team's quality.

7-7 but nowhere near as good as that record indicates. their defense is solid though still a few years away from being a juggernaut unit, but the offense has been utter shit this year.

their offense is a total mess.

of course skins D give up a field goal

50 seconds for a comeback led by REX. GROSSMAN. what could go wrong?

and of course, last week the redskins kicker missed two field goals at like 30 yards

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_m0W__BHqqlk/SpcfBxalOpI/AAAAAAAAAYM/FwvU0r5mb0M/s320/rex-grossman-screwed.jpg

tim lincecum is wiley wiggins and i refuse to believe otherwise

he is at the seattle-falcons game revving up the crowd btw

33 yard Vick run!

grossman THROWS AND IT'S PICKED OFF

lions get a road win!

wrex n effect

aw jim schwartz so happy

grossman's an equal opportunity QB, he doesn't discriminate by team

vick is beastin

NICE CALL DARIA!

oh my god guys, this eagles game

i mean they wouldn't have had to come back if Bad Rex hadn't played the whole first half and had 2 awful turnovers

one of the most amazing games i've ever watched

SDOGMOADSFJGODSJGIOASDJFOIASDNFIOASDNFIASDIFNASDIONFIASDNFINOASDNFV

FLY IGGLES FLY!!!!!!!

MACLIN YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD

put the team on his back dawg

eagles are fun

CMON ELI

I am an idiot for picking the Rams over the Chiefs

iggles are a trip but i am rooting for eli

I picked the Rams too, but only put 2 pts on 'em.

yeah, glad this eagles game got good, but it was pretty one-sided for the majority. go Giants!

Poor Jags, they have to wait until next week to clench.

wait is the eagles/giants game basically the skins/cowboys game

eli looks nervous

I'm psyched Jets vs Steelers is on here, though I hate both teams. Rooting for a tie.

OH MY GOD

Jackson punt return for a TD plz plz plz

omfg

DESEAN JACKSON HOLY SHIT

bjksdsdgnsdbgndfkldsklsdnhjsdvnjdsvndsvn

wow

giants specials are special

this guy

:0

Holy shit

I spammed the shit out of another thread because of this

seriously what in the hell was that whole game

By accident. I can't believe this.

one day that goofing around on the goal line will cost philly a playoff game

seriously desean jackson is my favorite dude

Jackson punt return for a TD plz plz plz

― Mordy, Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Jackson punt return for a TD plz plz plz

― Mordy, Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Jackson punt return for a TD plz plz plz

― Mordy, Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Jackson punt return for a TD plz plz plz

― Mordy, Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i hope he never stops goofing on the goal line

no one on the coverage team even had a chance at tackling him

cut matt dodge

That wasn't goofing. That was running the clock to zero.

I'm smiling ear to ear. I can't believe this. this is the most amazing thing i've ever seen

Jackson is going to get a nice fat contract.

My brother IMs: Another miracle at the Meadowlands.

in:

Kevin K: Oh my god!!!!!

HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!

^5 to k3vs and all other Iggles fans. my heart is beating a million times a minute

i'm not saying i hope he stops but it just seems likely that something bad will happen

Best Q4 of the year?! (If you're not a Giants fan, that is.)

Yes, without a doubt.

god's sake I've been in the car with intermittent internet service for the entire 4th quarter wowowowowowowow

o/ MORDY

vick was unreal in the 2nd half

incredible win

coughlin is an asshole btw

maybe scream at your d coordinator idk

that was desean? that makes more sense, espn gametrack said maclin returned the punt

god i can't wait for these highlights

so we scored 28 pts in...7.5 mins??

why won't the giants fire their entire special teams including coaches? how do you have a punter that you OPENLY ADMIT cannot punt??

That's an even more condensed amount of time than that Q1 against the Redskins earlier this season. xp

why won't the giants fire their entire special teams including coaches? how do you have a punter that you OPENLY ADMIT cannot punt??

yup. it was embarrassing watching him fail to tackle Jackson then flop on the ground impotently and stay there

gus j screaming abt tim tebow

Teboooooooow

TEBOW

I hope Gallery sits on him

why won't the giants fire their entire special teams including coaches? how do you have a punter that you OPENLY ADMIT cannot punt??

― THIS GUY (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:29 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

THIS GUY OTM
where is beautiful jeff feagles

i generally expect punters to flop on the ground impotently and then stay there face down, tbf

Desean is giving Rodgers some competition for best cal alum.

my stepdad almost swerved off the road after i basically screamed at the top of my lungs when my phone finally refreshed

Reid: "A great day to be a Philadelphia sportswriter."

just got off the phone with my dad...apparently jackson was like dancing around the goal line before going in even though time was already expired? my dad said he was yelling at him lol

lol yeah. he was fucking around. would make a great gif

i think he was trying to run the time off the clock but didn't realize that it was already 0 seconds left

btw TEBOW

yeah i don't think that was fucking around at all and i'm saying this from the perspective as someone who would be really, really, really pissed at showboating in that exact situation.

jacoby ford!! how did no one post about jacoby ford??

Today really was wtf though as far as pick'em went for me. I'm 3-7 so far this week.

why am i watching a steelers-jets game. why can't they both lose

who would've thought that today's raider/broncos game would include gus johnson getting to call two 40+ yd running tds in the first quarter??

raiders have been great lately

You have a really one-sided Pats victory to look forward to later.

anyone have a stream for Raiders Broncos? Not in the mood for radio today...

are any of the games worth watching instead of this jets/steelers game? i'm really bored and i want to see something exciting.

Uh oh, now you're looking for that high. I know this because I have seen Trainspotting.

steelers-jets will be fun for the lols

i mean mark sanchez in the snow in a game where the jets won't be able to run successfully

something is bound to happen

i'm supposed to go to a book club thing this evening but i really just want to stay in and watch the pats game. (also have the hangover gang over, sorta, in fact i don't even want to know how many drinks i had during all last week)

books are for babies :)

i plan to sit around as much as possible todau imo

joke still works xp

:D

book clubs are always women-only and it's this big production of acquiring/reading the book, traveling across the city, bringing food or drink, etc. i like the people but whenever there is a social group that is only women.. i don't like it, i never fit in to girls clubs. it makes socializing seem like work. :(

Broncos should trade orton this offseason imo

What percentage of the time is actually spent discussing the book? If it's more than, like, 20 minutes, your friends/acquaintances are doin it rong. xp

(talking about book clubs more interesting than Jets/Steelers, btw)

I was in a cookbook club for awhile. It was fun. Different theme each time. Fuck reading!

I'm in a movie club with 2 older women & its cool and all but occasionally i get trapped into seeing things like Its Complicated or 500 Days of Summer u___u

500 Days of Su___ummer

500 Times of Stabbing Myself in the Eye

lol Jordan

I would honestly rather watch 500 Days of Su___ummer right now than this game.

I would like to call your bluff, Mr Fever

like 1/3 spent discussing the book? i just don't feel like i have a lot to talk about with them, except for the one who is an information architect

like Inception? wait that was dreams

those things you know - facts - he is the guy who designs them

i guess in general re book clubs, there is this prim and proper aspect to it all that makes me want to barf

the good things about 'inception': nice suits, tom hardy.

information architect: in this case, term for someone who works at organizing website structure. it's kind of an outdated term i suppose

I would like to call your bluff, Mr Fever

Not having seen it, I'm game. I'm at near critical levels on Zooey Deschanel tolerance, tho.

Feeling a little better abt not being at the Raider game: friend said the wind bent their ez-up tent O_O

Not having seen it, I'm game. I'm at near critical levels on Zooey Deschanel tolerance, tho.

use of you make my dreams come true makes the movie worthwhile imo.

I do love me some Daryl & John.

ok just saw the desean punt return and i literally screamed at the tv even tho i knew what happened. there was a giant IN THE ENDZONE as he was doing that!

Sudden Death Time! You HAVE to choose between Joe Buck/Troy Aikman or Jim Nantz/Phil Simms or committing harikiri. Who do you choose?

Joe & Troy

I wish I could combine Nantz/Aikman and launch Buck/Simms into space, but NFL rules prohibit it.

i believe i've watched games called by moose and goose for three weeks straight, i am thrilled with either buck/aikman or nantz/simms by comparison

the best thing about this Steelers/Jets game is that one of these teams is going to lose today.

Moose and Goose used to be on the Tampa Bay detail frequently, so I've long since had my fill of those dudes.

Hate Moose & Goose

Got to give Rexy some propts on that 4th & 1 call. I thought it was a bit crazy going for it being 5:32 to go in the third quarter on a gimme field goal. Sanchez and the Jet running back really sold the hand off quite well.

Hello Jets - stay in bounds dummy! That is 3 plays on this drive, well over a minute on the clock that you have left on by not just going down and going out of bounds. LT you know better. Who knows with Krylon Edwards.

oh ffs

terrible. wtf steelers

wait who gets the ball now?

jets do

do you ever think ppl be frontin with the whole bacon neck tshirts nowadays

haha jc

Jets burned a whopping 23 seconds on that last possession and ran 4 plays.

I should be like down to 30 seconds to go in this game if the Jets manage the clock better.

good grief. hand it to lt, kill clock

it's almost as if putting the ball in mark sanchez's hand three separate times in order to win the game was a poor idea

i hate the jets

oh well

That was a huge waste of time.

I'm running to Taco Bell. Anyone want anything?

31 chalupas, plz.

Suggest Beans

Just saw Steve Johnson's td celebration. Was he doing "the wheelchair"?!

did u know that concussions happen not only in football, but also in other sports, and indeed in life itself? thx for the info, roger goodell!

The out of bounds plays were on the players, but they need to be reminded to stay in bounds.

Throwing the ball there is on the offensive coordinator and head coach.

Jets played pretty well. I think it came down that Troy P. wasn't playing safety today. The Steelers D didn't play bad, but Polamalu is just one of those guys that is really hard to stop and generally makes a few plays a game. You can tell when he isn't around.

WAITING ALL DAY FOR SUNDAY NIGHT........

http://s4.tinypic.com/3484vx3.jpg

who does that? CMON MAN

haa that was awesome, gb not laying down

GRONK

wow that was shit

that was good tho

also not too bad

nice run

also this

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81d06fc3/WK-15-Can-t-Miss-Play-DeSean-Jackson-game-winner

pats defensive backs keep running into each other

fucking bullshit

ok it was prob the right call but you shouldn't be allowed to drop a flag that late in the nfl

kuhn barely missed getting a helmet directly in the crotch

haha coughlin is such a complete dick, he deserved that

flynn lookin good.

OMG LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

looooool

u______u

best thing I have seen today I think

brady's face was priceless

that was incredible

<3

and i thought desean jackson punt return would be the craziest one this week

hahahaha

rooting GB, but that was pretty cool -- mainly the blocking. dude wasn't touched until the 10 yd line

connolly totally had a second gear when he realized he was open. that was so much fun. heartbreaking was to close out the half for GB, although they could still pull off something here. they would certainly deserve it on balance.

was=way

this is early season patriots, where they were getting outplayed all over for 30mins and going in only a field goal behind. not a welcome return, altho another motivation kick in the ass would be timely i guess. packers seem to have really designed their game well.

arrington! alllll right

horrible tackling pack

lol offensive players cant takle

shame, but that was dumb. tbh they could've probably kept running it all the way. it has been beginning to look like the cleveland game.

why didn't they just try and run it on 3/3?

hahaha don't run into wilfork

get ready for the rush on kuhn jerseys in gb area

GB did a good job coming back after the interception. It definitely helps a young QB to be playing with a vet club with some good receivers. Flynn has been around 3 years, while he hasn't the game experience, he should know the offense and the calls.

I still can't believe the Giants blew that game. I fell asleep during the Indy/Jags game and went 'whoah' when I saw NY was up like 31 to 10.

The Pack's defense is pretty stout.

yep. was hoping n.e. offense could manage to do more than a quick 3 and out. ugh. cmon pats, someone make a play.

lol defensive players cant takle

mebbe patriots should try to defend the FB out or the dinky check down to the middle? something about GB going to those plays over and over and over again should maybe give them a clue what is coming.

Difference on this game than the last couple of games is that NE didn't get up two scores early, which would have forced GB to try to get out of their game plan before it starts.

GB took a ballsy call with the on-side kick, which with the defer, got them the ball an extra time at half time. That worked. So far the Pack has been able to keep Brady off the field, which the Bears and Jets could not do. Those clubs are a ball control offense, they get into trouble when they have to wing it and chuck it a bunch. Detroit hung with them for a half, but they were trying to air it out, which you knew wasn't going hold up.

feels like al and cris are trying to start a meme or something--john kuhn is not good

NE have been good for at least one super grindy, quarter-killing drive every game this season, so pls let now be the time.

are the pack really that scared of brandon tate?

i mean, unless it's, like, devin hester or maybe brad smith, i'm pretty averse to just giving teams the ball on the 30/35

good job, julian

wilfork is covering a receiver? excellent

omg vince wilfork in coverage

matt flynn, just havin fun

nice stop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABcooDMRRD8

grate adjustment thomas jr

the 2 TE offense!

nice drive

DEFENSE

/waves D and # signs, etc

bradys intless streak seems entirely based on luck/magic

OH FFS

what a useless fucking penalty to give up.

OH BROTHER

well that was pretty fucked up

Lucky break for Flynn there

bradys intless streak seems entirely based on luck/magic

i think the bears missed at least 2 that should've been INTs

well any long streak of any kind is going to have its share of luck, right?

tbf defenders miss a high % of easy ints, which is why theyre defenders

really hope the pats d-line is healthier when the playoffs start

Considering the life and career of Tom Brady, he must have gotten the mojo hand at the crossroads or something to explain that much luck.

its true he is v handsome

friggin dane fletcher!

Meanwhile somewhere is an oil portrait of Drew Bledsoe that is weeping.

i was reminiscing about that tony homo blog the other night

bledslole

damn lucky

phew!

omg that was absurd

oh what a sad goddamn finish for that dude

my god!

wtf was that

wow

matt flynn played great overall

gotta have a plan in place--just run the same play you ran on the previous down!

yeah i wish someone told me he was a qb on a nat'l championship team--would have taken dude more serisouly

well, that would be a cheap win even by jets standards

:-(

tremendously cheap win

to be fair, matt flynn was the qb on probably the worst nat'l championship team of the last decade, but yeah

haa i was gonna say tbf he beat osu in it

It is pretty tough to ask a first time starter QB to pull that one off.

Flynn does look like has some skills, maybe not a big arm, but he showed some accuracy and poise all things considering.

That LSU club had some big talent though all over the place, even though they had some losses.

hah ok these things mean nothing to me--i guess just on big game experience alone we're not dealing with like a john beck or something

will suck if that keeps GB out of the playoffs

my comcast tv cut out like 30 seconds after the game was final, can't watch harrison/dungy talk about it :(

wow the tackling on that pick 6 was horrifying

Big game for the Bears tomorrow...they win they lock up the NFC North (Central).

that win summed up perfectly by belichick rolling out his standard post-defeat press conference.

i'm sure he was grim and dour as usual right

If the Packers are out of the playoffs, I'd like to think it won't be because of this game, or even whatever the hell last week was, but because of the thoroughly winnable games they lost against the Bears and Redskins and Dolphins (and Falcons to a lesser extent) earlier in the year. Like, I'd really really like them to sneak in, and they still might, because they haven't been out of any game they've played (six losses by a combined total of 20 points!), so in theory they could hang with anybody, but it is very difficult to feel as though the football Gods are with us this year. Oh well, enjoying the immense schadenfavre all season long has been pretty great, at least.

man I sorta don't want aaron rodgers to play football anymore cause I think he's gonna get hurt. I feel like his mother or something.

He and Austin Collie can open up a deep sea fishing business down on the Georgia coast and kick it all year.

NFL 2011 - FLAG FOOTBALL

lololl

I would just like to say WOW again for Desean Jackson. I mean...

speaking of wow

http://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/16555801720131584

on one hand this is absurd, on the other hand the game will actually be interesting

on the other hand my trip to northeast minneapolis tonight is going to be even more of a treat.

it's snowing here right now fyi

/excited
/filled with dread
/buying popcorn

oh shit i forgot the game it tonight @ tcf

goole did u volunteer to shovel

not until my street is curb to curb

see you march, zygi

guys

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/12/20/covers/front122010.jpg

god its really coming down now.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1220/chi_ap_tcfbank12_576.jpg

This is going to be so good.

lol ny post

did you guys see dilfer's totally bizarre response to what the vikes' punter said about field conditions? he went off on this weird rant about how you should never listen to punters or kickers because they're not real football players and they spend all their time shopping on amazon (???) and he stopped just short of saying they're all complete pussies who should be murdered.

omg

he's a loose cannon

Oh NY Post. What would they do without Vick for headlines, srsly.

Man that photo of the field. PSYCHED. They should wear those old school helmets with the single bar across the face and both coaches should wear Lombardi hats & coats...NFL Films gold here tonight folks

lol Dilfer. I love how most regular players all think that kickers and punters are like weird unicorn people who are just not quite right in the head

Godammit, if Tirico or Jaws says something about icing the kicker tonight, I'm gonna come up there into the booth.

(If Gruden says it, I'll laugh, because he's such a nut.)

lol

btw then dilfer said kickers and punters are at least great gift-givers, but they never got him a good gift. i think he had some undiagnosed concussions back in the day.

oh man i have a ~contact~ who works in the office building across the intersection from TCF stadium. she says there's already a line forming.

srsly? wow.

Dilfer is such a puffed up ex-QB. Most of the QBs who go into broadcasting are that way, but Dilfer takes it up a notch just to make sure people remember he won a Super Bowl. In truth, he stumbled into a good situation, but he thinks he's a tough guy.

did you guys see dilfer's totally bizarre response to what the vikes' punter said about field conditions? he went off on this weird rant about how you should never listen to punters or kickers because they're not real football players and they spend all their time shopping on amazon (???) and he stopped just short of saying they're all complete pussies who should be murdered.

― omar little, Monday, December 20, 2010 1:25 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol this is amazing

dude always looks like he's about to bite the quarter panel off a car

I guess it's challopsy but I love Dilfer. And I think he's usually the first person to mention that he's not why the Ravens won that Super Bowl.

i like trent. he's basically right about punters and kickers too.

And I think he's usually the first person to mention that he's not why the Ravens won that Super Bowl.

Oh yeah, this is ALWAYS what he says. But it's never how he acts.

I guess I can see that, but remember when Sean Salisbury was on ESPN all the time? Dilfer is great at describing QB play, whatever his faults might be. And unlike Steve Young he will actually stop talking sometimes.

btw guys it is legit puking here right now---i might actually go to a bar to watch this, it's gonna be a junkshow

Can't wait!

oh man, reading the weather reports now - 6 inches of snow? chucky and jaws are going to be so delighted

BEAR DOWN CHICAGO BEAAAARS

Favre just upgraded to "questionable" status.

i 'question' his sanity

reporting live from minnesota, less than 1/2 mile from TCF Stadium:

the snow is really coming down

tc sports talk radio callers have unnatural faith that somehow joe webb is michael vick 2.0 and should have been our starter all season

vikings punter chris kluwe tweeted that turf was "unplayable"

this is very likely to be a strange night of football.

hey! they just closed our office...time to go drive in this mess...should be a fun one.

i've never been more excited for a totally meaningless vikings game that we will probably lose by double digits

we will probably lose by double digits

Pretty optimistic on your part.

~stoked for the madness~

unusual field conditions create chaos benefiting the underdog, aka anything can happen

jesus i had a bunch of shopping planned for tonight.

i could see this going either way, bears aren't really that good

i predict devin hester will still return a punt for a TD, by rapidly burrowing tunnels through the snow like bugs bunny

^^^yeah i got hella errands i wanted to run today b4 xmas but haven't even left the house and am starting to get mad cabin fever. fuck driving in this shit. years of winter biking (and esp on our lovely path system) has kinda dulled my winter driving skills and i swear my BP goes up 20 mmHg when i have to drive in this garbage

i don't think you guys should drive

am i to stay at my office for the night?!?!

or do you mean like ever

omar little cracking me up in this thread; feel bad for laughing at trent dilfer's undiagnosed concussions

xp i guess not; driving in the snow scares the shit out of me. be careful!

Breaking news from Shawne Merriman's twitter, you guys.

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i'm really bummed that i was unable to watch mike shanahan troll donovan mcnabb with a rex grossman start.

how beautiful and perfect would it be if favre died on the field tonight of exposure?

this field could be favre's stalingrad

frozen corpse of favre upgraded to questionable

Ol' Purple Boots.

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__29/ept_sports_nfl_experts-270188689-1292868933.jpg?ymFFTREDocNNOOQV

this field could be favre's stalingrad

― omar little, Monday, December 20, 2010 4:24 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

ahaha you're killing it today dude

a gunslinging passer succumbs to a russian winter

http://mortent.org/public/Animated/bowing.gif

about 15 mins ago:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2iq5n6.jpg

yessssssss

jeez now I feel like a total baby for not going to the Raiders Broncos game yesterday.

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/67/883E4795-F3C9-4761-BE3E-122B9B4305C1/NA005697.jpg

so would favre be zhukov or ed harris in this scenario or

so if this is enemy at the gates, who's favre

xp lololol

"is favre jude law or hitler" would have been funnier i guess

When the Red Army command learns of König's mission, they dispatch his former student Koulikov (Ron Perlman) to help Vassili kill him. However, König tricks Koulikov into revealing his position and kills him with a very skillful shot, shaking Vassili's spirits considerably.

i'm thinkin perlman

did you guys see dilfer's totally bizarre response to what the vikes' punter said about field conditions? he went off on this weird rant about how you should never listen to punters or kickers because they're not real football players and they spend all their time shopping on amazon (???) and he stopped just short of saying they're all complete pussies who should be murdered.

― omar little, Monday, December 20, 2010 1:25 PM (15 minutes ago)

yeah i saw this yesterday too it was the funniest thing

fucking amazon shopping punters

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/12/20/covers/front122010.jpg

y'know, it is easy to take this shit for granted, but this is the work of someone who is an absolute master of their craft. the person responsible for this needs a cult following and then maybe a biopic and critical reappraisal when they die.

maybe favre and the vikings could use an "air bridge" to "resupply" the offense.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2q367t0.jpg

sun just went down fyi

i'm glad i have provisions

ed werder just reported that vikings players have been told not to speak about the field conditions and as such they are saying that there is a massive cover up underway

few dudes in full on hunter orange in that pic

Every person in that picture is packing a flask of happy-keep-warm-juice.

every person in that pic is mentally unwell

I just love the glow of the lights on the field

I AM SO EXCITED FOR A REAL SNOW GAME

i wonder if at the end of this matchup, w/but two contests left in his career, brett favre will look at this game and remember when it was just a game for him, before the team-hopping and the painkillers, before the sideline reporters and before the forty-two retirement press conferences, and i wonder if a single tear will well up in one of his eyes and promptly freeze as it trickles down his ashen cheek.

http://avenuestosuccessnotes.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/25/421796330_a2cb9df41f.jpg

hes like a kid out there... if that kid is damien from the omen

http://archive.perfectduluthday.com/crying_eagle.jpg

any lions fan that is still pissed at matt millen should turn on sportscenter right now to see him forced to sit outside to talk about this game

lmao ed werder right now

frozen_eagle.jpg

replace the burning twin towers w/

http://media.nj.com/giants_impact/photo/saints-vikings-nfc-championship-game-tracy-porter-be772fb81dda5f7b_large.jpg

i believe millen is all #ascotswag tonight

http://crowdsandkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/70472_eagles_football.jpg

i'm putting it at 50-1 that devin hester still finds a way to return a punt for a TD tonight

the glow off the stadium is the best. whenever the snow falls hard, really well-lit outdoor spaces become amayyyzing. the air starts glowing.

xpost

Did Millen's mustache freeze and fall off?

i hope goldy makes an appearance tonight

http://i47.tinypic.com/2wrn8zr.jpg

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AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Adrian Peterson is INACTIVE. Brett Favre starts. Wow.

waht

Crap. Well, there goes my fantasy season.

lol, I just dropped AP onto the waivers and picked up Gerhart. This is a serious hail-mary.

You didn't have another player worth dropping?!

All my other players are locked for the weekend.

And I'm 27 points down and he's starting the Bears D tonight and if I lose I'm out of the playoffs. So... hail mary time.

Yep. Good call.

favre is going to die tonight. he's going to get sacked and shatter into 1 million shards

why does favre even want to start? what are the vikings trying to do? it's not like they have any playoff hopes? idgi

he is the last american hero

http://www.mediacircus.net/fortheloveofthegame_1.jpg

i was gonna say -- i'm sure he walked out of the tunnel, saw all the snow piled up, his dick became erect and a little american flag unfurled from it, and he knew what he had to do

frozen_tear.gif

lmfao

this would be a great opportunity for a glorious career to come to end with a horrific and completely avoidable injury/death.

feel like he could throw a last minute game losing int and have his leg ripped off in the same play

and everyone would just go 'welp'

rofl otm

http://pix.alaporte.net/pub/d/10136-1/Frozen+Soldiers+2.JPG

hahaha

jay http://i54.tinypic.com/1j14s2.jpg, 1943

http://www.anglonautes.com/hist_us_20_ww2/hist_us_20_ww2_pic_stalingrad_1.jpg

it's like that picture at the end of the shining

y'know, it is easy to take this shit for granted, but this is the work of someone who is an absolute master of their craft. the person responsible for this needs a cult following and then maybe a biopic and critical reappraisal when they die.

ny post cover editors are genius, i definitely appreciate.

Adam Schefter
Getting ready watch Brett Favre in the snow against the Bears is like getting ready to watch Evel Knievel jump the Snake River Canyon.

i loved that tweet

ny post headline writer is my dream job, second only to maybe being the new andy rooney

I really hope [hatcat]'s diabetes doesn't lead to some fingers and/or toes snapping clean off tonight.

i like suzy kolber's hat

Somebody photoshop hatcat on top of Suzy's head plz.

time for CMON MAN

awesome

lol @ eli's presser!!!