Rolling 2011 NFL Offseason

I'm rooting for Mularkey to be the Browns next head coach.

Huddle up homers with no playoff aspirations.

me too!

tamtam, is Mularkey the man? I mean, young QB in clevo, grizzled Holmgren as Prez, Mularkey is relatively young but experienced. Thinking it could be a match made in heaven.

didn't pay a ton of attention to college ball this year, need to catch up on draft prospects etc, not sure who the big free agents are and oh yeah lockout. happy the panthers are getting screwed out of Luck. i really like the direction cleveland's going in!

dude, I've been wrong so many times about so many things I'm shaken to the core of my being. But yeah, running game and o-line in place. Defensive 2ndary has improved tenfold. Needs = d-line and wideouts and backup RB's. Linebackers are eh but scrappy, Fujita getting hurt killed their run stopping ability. Dunno about the draft, I don't pay attention enough to know who the best receiver is, but whoever it is should be a high priority.

Mularkey's a ~good offensive coach~. i understand he was a lil bit of a disaster in Buffalo, but y'know, buffalo (sorry horseshoe!). im sorta not in love with the system he runs, but im probably just a finicky fan who doesnt understand how good ive got it! he looks like kevin costner.

best receiver is AJ green - best wr prospect since k records legend calvin johnson - but he'll prob be gone before the browns pick.

Mularkeys middle name is Rene which gives the Brownies some badly need ~flair~ also the last Bills coach to post a winning record if I'm not mistaken. Need a horseshoe perspective on this but she's buried in Peyton fatheads atm.

woulda thought the first order of bidness woulda been:
1) more bitchen about 18 game season
2) odds on a lockout

The 18-game season idea SUCKS!

The odds on just about anything are 50/50, right? It either happens or it doesn't.

the browns are gonna hire marty morningweigh (sp?)

yah i feel like i can't deal with this thread until i know if there's a lockout or not

xp Is that breaking news or an educated guess? (I made the same guess a few days ago.)

no, but there's a lot of chatter that holmgren covets him

I think the 16 game season has some nice symmetry to it with football being 4 quarters long. I think the NFL should just be smarter and be able to get more football on national TV instead of trying to expand out the season.

I'd maybe have some NFL teams maybe move the pre-season games to other places in their regions (like say the Cowboys playing a pre-season game in say Oklahoma or Arkansas) in a college town or the Bears playing down in Champaign or a game in Wrigley or something weird like that one. It would still be an exhibition, but if done right and hyped right, it would be a novelty and bring people to see a game that might not go see one in the 'big city'. Then the season ticket holders might not gripe about having to buy 'bad games'.

Conversely to get more football on national TV, where the real damn money is at, I'd maybe dump a pre-season game add a second bye week and then use those bye weeks to have clubs either playing a Thursday night or Friday night pro game on national TV either coming from or to a bye week in the first 10 weeks or so of the season. They do that they could easily put probably 10-12 more big national games on TV, which I got a feeling would offset quite a few of those shite pre-season games.

wade phillips dc at houston will be something to watch. 3-4 with mario as roving rusher. could be fun. wonder if wade has known he is really for a dc for a couple years now.

ron rivera at carolina? i feel like he has been on the brink because he always gets hired as a hc at the end of the first season on madden season mode, for like 4 years now. poly?

earlnash has my vote for NFL commissioner

Roberto: Rivera excelled with the Bears running the 4-3 (or whatever it was), came to SD and learned the 3-4, and got a lot out of a defense that frankly has no great players. He conducted himself with class while he was a Charger, and everyone seemed to like him. He's your classic unproven high character coaching prospect, like Lewis or Dungy or Fewell or Nolan, but of course a lot will depend on personnel and his OC hire.

thx dude. well good luck to ron. he just got landed with a shitty football team.

"wade has known he is really for a dc for a couple years now."

Wade Phillips is a pretty respected coach. There are a ton of dudes that were good defensive coordinators for one reason or not never had luck as a head coach, which really is much more of a PR person/CEO type guy now.

Mid 80s Bears are starting to add up some head coaches --

Jeff Fisher
Ron Rivera
Leslie Frazier
Mike Singletary

Jim Harbaugh

Also, Rivera is fucked. That owner is the new Mike Brown, the Panthers the new budget-concious NFL team.

Rivera being the hc almost guarantees that Nick Fairley goes overall #1 in the draft, though...if they don't trade down to get more later round picks.

Fairley probably goes #1 whether Rivera is coach or not.

it's hard to be fucked in the nfl tbh

obv that's not completely true (see: browns, bills) but generally speaking rebuilding an nfl team is much easier than doing it in baseball -- where spending money is much more important & even the top prospects take years to develop -- and in basketball -- where the best teams have vice grips on championships for years on end.

but even the bills have hope now, sorta

For example: the Chiefs and http://c0848462.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/3d93bd2c4f3f1b33c02182fd0f20476f.png in the playoffs despite being awful last year.

I honestly think the Browns are going in the right direction. This Shurmur rumor is kinda o_O but at least I trust Holmgren (for the time being). It's just that the Ravens and Steelers are head and shoulders so much better than the Browns that I can't see the Browns contending for years. The Bills are in the same boat with two good teams in the same division and a much smaller fanbase, were any Bills games blacked out this year? The Browns, at least, have weirdo loyal subhuman fans that sellout every game

Yeah, what's with those fools?

(looks left and right; whistles innocently)

nothing wrong with them other than loyalty + subhumanism + weirdos and the ability to never know who to start at QB.

this is now in the past

a new day has dawned over browns town snrub

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zI4K8x7sa84/SXYe175p4oI/AAAAAAAAAYE/_IL2_k3Zvo0/s400/The+BPA.jpg

a new day

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brand new

http://www.michaelstanley.com/images/stanleyshadowland_cover_9kjv.jpg

Shurmur to Browns and John Fox to Broncos now both official.

The Raiders remain... who will it be?

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=6018722

lawrence taylor gets six months' probation

If the Raiders don't announce Hue Jackson I may not be accountable for my actions fyi

He's clearly the best option, so why is it taking this long? Have you heard of them interviewing anyone else?

Nope. But I have heard that Jackson is already trying to shore up Rex Ryan as his defensive co-ordinator...

...

You mean Rob?

Agh. Yeah, Rob.

Defense was never really the achilles of the Raiders program while he was there before, was it? I mean, it's not a sexy hire to bring back a guy who was there before, but I don't think it would be that bad a thing.

Yeah, Rob Ryan was never their problem.

Happy 23rd birthday today, Josh Freeman!

http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2010/0520/themag_100518_JoshFreeman.jpg

(y'all, with Raheem as coach, Freeman as qb, and Blount as the monster rb, I think the Bucs are my next favorite team.)

Hue Jackson is the new coach of the Raiders.

thank you jebus. I was afraid he'd bow out and we'd end up with god knows who

generally speaking rebuilding an nfl team is much easier than doing it in baseball

tell this to dolphins' "brain" "trust."

In order: Shanahan OC, Shell line, White OC, Bugel line, Gruden OC, Callahan line, Turner OC, Shell line, Kiffin OC, Cable line, now Hue OC.

Yup.

In other news, Al Davis is getting rid of John Marshall because our defense packages are too 'aggressive'. Because he thinks it's 1965 and that we should win with our front 4 and also bc he's crazy as a shithouse rat and goddammit when is this fucking guy gonna die so I can have my team back.

back? when was the team yours and not al davis'?

picky picky

Sounds like the Raiders are kind of caught in free agent hell though...lock out or not, their club could be quite a bit different next year either way.

Farewell, .500 season

Al Davis doesn't think there's gonna be a season next year, I bet.

;_;

man Brian Daboll to the Dolphins.

good luck usa Dolphins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4SDpMPEJO0&feature=player_embedded#at=35

ppl be saying shurmur covertly flips off spags at :34.

http://c0848462.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/3d93bd2c4f3f1b33c02182fd0f20476f.png hire Tom Cable as assistant head coach/offensive line coach

man Brian Daboll to the Dolphins.

awesome. we're looking at maybe 16 -- 0 next season.

Rams hire McDaniels as O-coordinator

Brian Daboll was the worst thing about the Browns last year. If history is any guide he will be awesome (see Belichick, Crennel etc)

the single worst thing? damn, we are going to be an awesome team to follow next year.

Al Davis video footage!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/18/al-davis-takes-aim-at-tom-cable/

Cable to Jets?

INDIGNITY THY NAME IS AL DAVIS

also ugh that video.

If you liked that, check out this extreme close-up of his face. NOT PRETTY

http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2011/01/19/oakland-raiders-owner-al-davis-smiles-during-an-nfl-football-new

Cable to Jets?

Hawkz

oh lol I forgot Hawks were still hatcatted

hat cat too nice for jets. i suggest

http://www.b12partners.net/mt/images/lawyers_melting.jpg

ooh I like that

better than the poop toilet

GOOGLE indiana jones face melt

My friend at work has a son who is the director of personnel or something of the UFL and also used to work for the Browns under Chris Palmer and Butch Davis. He says that Pat Shurmur was without question the best choice available for the Browns and will definitely be their best coach of the expansion era. Hearing someone tell me that is pretty much all it takes to get me pumped up for next year. GO BROWNS!

Brian Daboll was the worst thing about the Browns last year. If history is any guide he will be awesome (see Belichick, Crennel etc)

― brownie, Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:13 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Bruce Arians, too!!

do browns fans still hate the ravens for stealing their super-bowl championship?

Yes.

always felt bad for browns. they were a great team when i was growing up -- and had one of my favorite nfl qbs (kosar) -- but never got over the hump to get to the super bowl.

Christ, that Al Davis photo. I hope he lives long enough for me to put him on my 2012 deadpool team.

Mr Veg tivod the press conference bc of lols

No lols. Only tears and nightmares. Holy fuck guys

i'll withhold my judgment on sabol until i see him with the phins -- don't really think that a coordinator of any kind should be judged by the browns talent

hey, and peyton hillis was pretty good

mcdaniels oc at rams could be killer. him and spags a nice combo. they need another good draft and stl could actually be going places.

buffalololololololololololololololololololololololo

carson palmer demands to be traded; will retire if he isn't.

¯\(°_°)/¯

does he have family in canada?

really? he doesn't seem like the malcontempt-type.

yeah well that's the thing--he's done more than his share of good-soldiering for that ridiculous franchise

i mean, i know people here more knowledgeable than me will dismiss this, but given the state of our quarterback situation, i'd certainly looking into palmer if i were part of the dolphins' "brain" "trust."

i wld def look into palmer if i was the fins

we already have one qb that routinely throws INTs in the redzone

here are the qbs i'd look at ahead of carson palmer

kyle orton, vince young, kevin kolb, ryan mallet, cam newton

what an exciting list of possible "upgrades."

any reports of manning being unhappy in indy?

no? ah, well.

u fins need sum caleb hanie

yeah, that guy is next-level.

a level beyond chad henne, at least.

i'm convinced there's something outlierish about carson's '10 season; but i agree with jordan's list

if you're not inspired by cam newton or ryan mallett then idk what to tell you!

cam newton's not going to fall to our spot in the draft. haven't followed ryan mallett. he's v. good/he'll be available at, what, no. 15?

cam might fall, altho i have a sneaking suspicion that the redskins are gonna snap him up immediately

mallet should be there

Cam Newton will go in the top 10 in my opinion.

i agree with you

i'd do cartwheels to pick cam newton but i can't see him falling far enough or trading up high enough.

newton seems more like a tebow/quinn type late first guy to me but idk

man if he's there . . .

idk if he'll be a good qb but given our owner's recent comments ("we will return to an exciting offense"), we would unquestionably draft him. if we do, he must be a guaranteed bust b/c we're managed by ass-clowns.

newton seems more like a tebow/quinn type late first guy to me but idk

He has much better mechanics than Tebow and is tall and fast, which is GM catnip.

here are the qbs i'd look at ahead of carson palmer

kyle orton, vince young, kevin kolb, ryan mallet, cam newton

― wee-based god (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I'd look at Vince Evans before Id look at Vince Young.

as a titans fan, i would rather have palmer than vince young
we basically already have palmer -1 in kerry collins

Mallet is a goliath that's a) immobile and b) throws rockets even at 10 yards. He'll be a project QB for at least two seasons. He could be like Joe Flacco when ready; a good, but rarely exciting, quarterback.

I'd look at Vince Evans before Id look at Vince Young.

I'd rather have Vince Young than Jimmy Clausen or Alex Smith or Chad Henne.

vince is a lottery ticket but you couldn't possibly plan around him.

He has a pretty good record as a pro. He's a pretty good option if you're developing a young guy who isn't ready yet.

He seems like an asshole but maybe he just doesn't get along with Fisher? Buddy Ryan didn't get along with Fisher.

the question is if another team can convince him to put in the work, which by all accounts he only has a passing interest in doing.

I'd look at Vince Evans before Id look at Vince Young.

I'd rather have Vince Young than Jimmy Clausen or Alex Smith or Chad Henne.

― polyphonic, Monday, January 24, 2011 1:44 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Let me reiterate: I would rather have Vince Guaraldi than Vince Young.

wait is vince guaraldi available?!?

sign that guy now, miami dolphins "brain" "trust."

Let me reiterate: I would rather have Vince Guaraldi than Vince Young.

Cool, I will win football games and you will have haunting autumnal melodies.

hahah

would you rather have vince mcmahon than vince young?

All Pros:

OFFENSE

QB: Tom Brady
RBs: Arian Foster, Houston; Jamaal Charles, Kansas City.
FB: Vonta Leach, Houston
TE: Jason Witten, Dallas
WRs: Roddy White, Atlanta; Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis
OTs: Joe Thomas, Cleveland; Jake Long, Miami
OG: Jahri Evans, New Orleans; Logan Mankins, New England
C: Nick Mangold, N.Y. Jets
K: Billy Cundiff, Baltimore
KR: Devin Hester, Chicago

DEFENSE

DEs: Julius Peppers, Carolina; John Abraham, Atlanta
DT: Haloti Ngata, Baltimore; Ndamukong Suh, Detroit
OLBs: Clay Matthews, Green Bay; James Harrison, Pittsburgh.
ILBs: Patrick Willis, San Francisco, 28; Jerod Mayo, New England, 21
CBs: Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland; Darrelle Revis, N.Y. Jets
S: Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh; Ed Reed, Baltimore
P: Shane Lechler, Oakland.

needs more raji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dO828YUmlg

not a bad tackle from Haine there

Cool, I will win football games and you will have haunting autumnal melodies.

― polyphonic, Monday, January 24, 2011 5:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Where in the UFL? I'd rather have the melodies.

I don't like these threads where I wind up arguing for guys I don't even like.

This whole Jay Cutler saga is bugging me. I got stuck in traffic this morning and had to listen to sexual deviant Steve Phillips go on and on about how Cutler is a pussy. If a "quality" guy like Phillips is against him, maybe Im wrong in not supporting him. Then thinking about the other NFL'ers who tweeted during the game, criticizing Cutler made me think of the big picture. If there going to turn on one of their own so easily, how badly are they going to get smoked at the bargaining table come March? I know it will be a lockout, not a strike, so there will be no picket lines crossed, but these guys have absolutely no unity.

DEFENSE

DEs: Julius Peppers, Carolina; John Abraham, Atlanta

Are they listing where the guy went to college now or something?

I think that's actually the previous NFL team he played for.

i don't think overall player unity has anything to do with criticism of a single specific player. a lot of people -- in and outside the league -- apparently don't like jay cutler. having said that, his injury seems real and it seems stupid to have piled-on the criticism so quickly.

I think people have already mentioned this, but people are ignoring the real issue here which is that he was playing like crap, and that Chicago was pretty suspect as a 2 seed. Would've loved to have seen Saints/Bears despite the joy the Seahawks gave me.

cutler got a grade 2 mcl sprain (which takes weeks to recover from) and couldn't safely take cortisone to hobble back into the game. if anything i think the bears team is gonna rally around cutler 100% and go into next season pissed off.

does he throw more or less ints when he's pissed off

bears fans might look around and prefer other qbs but honestly, we've got jay cutler. this is who we had between mcmahon and cutler:

Doug Flutie
Jim Harbaugh
Kyle Orton
Kordell Stewart
Brian Griese
Chris Chandler
Rex Grossman
Craig Krenzel
Erik Kramer
Mike Tomczak
Jonathan Quinn
Chad Hutchinson
Henry Burris
Jim Miller
Cade McNown
Peter Tom Willis
Will Furrer
Steve Walsh
Dave Kreig
Rick Mirer
Steve Stenstrom
Moses Moreno
Shane Matthews
Steve Fuller

does he throw more or less ints when he's pissed off

moot point since every throw is an INT anyway

well i don't think cutler gets pissed off, i think he's just this weird blank slate, which is sort of a problem. but at the same time maybe this incident will get him to actually show some anger and work a little harder between now and next season. idk

I think that's actually the previous NFL team he played for.

― polyphonic, Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:50 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I know, i was kidding.

Move over, Louis CK!

Thanks Dickface Pryor!!

who the hell is Moses Moreno

^sounds like a light hitting centerfielder from the 1978 Expos

3 HR, 17 rbi, 12 BB, 46 K .235 ba/.312 slg/.342 obp

2 stolen bases

haha '78 expos were good, iirc.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/27/cromartie-vows-to-smash-hasselbecks-face-in/

^____^

lol @ "sexual deviant Steve Phillips"

The owners have to be licking their chops with the likes of Cromartie, Jones-Drew and Dockett around. Licking their fucking chops.

Some union.

Might as well push for a 22 game schedule, if morons like Cromartie are representative of the intelligence of the union membership.

Antonio "Scab Bitch" Cromartie

cromartie is such a horrible human being

if there's one thing about being 35 that i'm looking forward to it's for the inevitable story about "former jets cornerback" antonio cromartie being broke & near homelessness

Jim Zorn is no longer with the Ravens. :(

had no idea j0rdan was 34

^lol

http://www.bolgernow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rimshotbadumtsh.jpg

omar!!

nice

http://diamondcreative.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/david-brent.jpg

Excellent work everyone.

Fisher out in Tenn?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/27/report-jeff-fisher-on-the-way-out-in-tennessee/

oh man. i'd love fisher as the dolphins coach!

aw man really? not a good call at all

NO! That's not cool.

A long-time friend of mine who lives in Nashville still is saying there are some Saban whispers going around, but a) he's an Auburn fan and b) kind of an asshole about being an Auburn fan. So I'm not sure I believe it at all.

i can't imagine anyone wanting anyone else to coach that team

tense times to be a titans fan; your crazy 86 year old owner holds the next several years in his hands

aw man really? not a good call at all

wait waht? fisher's a good coach!

i can't imagine anyone wanting anyone else to coach that team

"Mr. Adams, Mr. Billick is on line 1..."

Yeah, I could see Billick in TN.

So now VY gets to crazy on a whole new coach. Yay!

I'd just like for one club to be crazy enough to give Mike Leach the reigns. If it works, it will be fun to watch and if it is a complete train wreck, it will still be fun to watch.

I'd love to see it too, but you just know his defense would murder him after the first time he went for it on 4th and 20 on his own 15.

lol...but think of the awesome pirate speeches!

i would put in a tentative okay for bill cowher

Hey meanwhile, guess what the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders were doing?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1710/screenshot20110129at130.png

Debbie Does Walmart

i like to throw a ball

a moment literally shaking die-hard fans to the core

watching Pro Bowl practice, Chris Cooley sideline interview w Jamal Charles - Charles was all "cmon man" that Bellichick was cussing them out in the practice field and making them do 1 hour+ practices. "Its the probowl mayne, its sposed to be fun!!" lololol

haha, belichick's usually pretty chill at the pro bowl too. hes always laughing and joking with peyty :3

Also, Todd Haley is Jamaal's real coach. Are you telling me he can't take a little bit of Belichick?

someone call the waaaambulance for Jamal Charlws

polamalu wins the dpoy--a reputation win if ever there was one

yup

I mean, I like him as a player but he didn't even play the full season!

Ed Reed would have been a better pick. But how Matthews III didnt win is unfathomable.

welp the browns won't be having an offensive coordinator next year, not really much of a change from Daboll amirite

kidding aside, i wonder how our signing your offensive coordinator will change the dolphins' offense.

Considering the Browns "weapons" last year (ie. Hillis) I really don't know what Daboll is capable of with a team that has wide receivers. Browns threw the ball to the TE and RB's all the time and ran it more often than not. I wonder, tho, what the Dolpins saw in him.

Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports Juan Castillo will be moved from offensive line coach to defensive coordinator. Long-time Colts offensive line coach Howard Mudd will take over the offensive line duties.

Strange move. rare do you see a position coach moved to the coordinator's position on the other side of the ball.

first viking arrest of the offseason!

http://www.piercecountyherald.com/event/article/id/32777/

Troy Polamalu did have the huge clutch fumble in the early Ravens win, then there was the 4th and 1 insane play where he hurdled the team to stop the QB and he probably won this one as he probabaly deserved to win one a season or two back. Ed Reed is still pretty good, but it isn't 2004 anymore. Matthews was freaking sick this year, so no argument if he won the award. I think Polamalu had a decent year and won this one on long term rep. Steelers are not the same if him or Casey Hampton are not playing.

yeah polamalu was more wildly inconsistent than anything--at his best he's amazing but there were games this year where he was playing and did absolutely nothing.

Ed Reed would have been a better pick. But how Matthews III didnt win is unfathomable.

― The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 10:23 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

are you kidding? Ed Reed isn't as good as Polamalu when he's healthy, let alone in a season where he barely played 10 games.

My vote would've been for Harrison, he was a monster this year. Think the concussionpalooza probably killed any chances for him though.

Ed Reed isn't as good as Polamalu

this is wrong

the answer to this question is always derrell revis, but in lieu of that i'd probably say tamba hali

Polamalu's more explosive and does things Reed simply isn't capable of. Reed's a great range guy and one of the all time great ballhawks, but he doesn't bring many other dimensions to the table. I know you're a Miami stan so I can disregard your opinion on this matter.

-_-

:3

curious to see what asomugah does on a real team, presuming anyone's playing next season

eff you and your "real team" bs ;_;

er sorry "playoff-bound team"

"where he has another corner who can play at a reasonably high level"

"(say, perhaps the jets)"
would be happy to jettison cromartie

are you kidding? Ed Reed isn't as good as Polamalu when he's healthy, let alone in a season where he barely played 10 games.

― My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You're fucking insane.

Just entertaining the idea of Asomugha going to the Jets makes me want to stab someone. Cannot believe they let him go.

While they both are great safetys, I'd say Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu are pretty different talents. Ed Reed's crazyness seem to come much more in the pass game, where he kamakazees around for interceptions and/or pulling fumbles away from players that have already been tied up then being able to turn that turnover into an offensive position. He is insane in the run back. Polamalu is more of an field missile that is used to attack the QB or run game from angles not really expected in blitz packages, which is where you see the big sack or fumble or stop come in. They are both great, but they are both kind of different. I think Reed plays probably more 'home run' free safety in the back and you would say Polamalu is more of the strong safety playing up close to the line and used kind of like Woodson was with the Steelers (i.e. you have no idea where he is going to be lined up this play).

You got to deal with both of them, but you have to plan different for each of them.

All I am saying is that Ed Reed had fewer tackles than Taylor Mays this year.

that's a stupid point

for one most of ed reed's value obv comes from coverage/interceptions (where he is unmatched), secondly the ravens have one of the best d-line & lb groups in the nfl, so his opportunity to make tackles is likely substantially less than taylor mays

Do you think a guy who had 37 tackles for the season should be the defensive MVP of the league?

i didn't say that ed reed was the defensive mvp of the league

i just said that i think he's better than polomalu (& clearly better than taylor mays)

For the record I did not say Taylor Mays was a better player than Ed Reed.

Can I get a flowchart up in here? I'm lost.

oh, well you seemed to imply that he had the better season

I was mostly quibbling with the idea that he was more deserving of the DPOY award than Polamalu, who had one fewer interception and twice as many tackles this year. They're both great of course.

I tried to find some advanced stats but didn't really know where to look.

I dunno if anyone cares, but Jay Gruden (brother of Jon, and former coach of Orlando's AFL/UFL teams) was named Cincinnati's new OC today. Can't wait for the Bengals to have a Monday night game next year.

This guy my brother

This Guy Fest 2011

luckily for gruden, the bengals won't be on monday night for the next three years

;_;

I'm kind of hoping that Jay Gruden is like a front, so that Jon Gruden can still get his jones off running an NFL offense and yet be in the MNF booth.

I hope it works out and the guy is good, as if you look at it from a diffierent angle, it would be another cheap dick Mike Brown move to hire a coordinator out of the "UFL" to take over an "NFL" team. Then again, I think the Bengals are probably deserving of relegation to the CFL.

Jay Gruden is just Jon with a mustache.

Richard Dent, Marshall Faulk, Chris Hanburger, Les Richter, Ed Sabol, Deion Sanders and Shannon Sharpe were elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Saturday.

Good for Ed Sabol.

Gonna have to look up Richter and Hanburger, I dunno em

I'm setting my dvr right now to record Shannon Sharpe's acceptance speech. I'll have to replay it about 10 times to make any sense of it, I'm sure.

Vick wins CPOTY - EJ Henderson got robbed, and bad.

I watched pretty much every snap of Marshall Faulk's college career so it is pretty sweet to see him get in the Hall.

Chargers franchise VJax, Patriots franchise Mankins. lol

what did jackson ever do to them?

Seriously. So vindictive.

Vick franchised, david harris franchised

Peyton Manning franchised!

oooo vick staying in philly huh

I see it is now the time of the year when Al Davis overpays a defensive player.

Report: Jets plan to let Antonio Cromartie walk

enjoy jacksonville, asshole

take the kids to disneyworld

GET NNAMDI ON THE PHONE REX AND ALL IS FORGIVEN
AND AIRLIFT VJAX OUTTA BOLTLAND WHILE YOU AT IT

lol

I will miss u Nnamdi, u r bro 4 life

http://pfw.s3.amazonaws.com/headshots%2F184533.jpghttp://www.anyweh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Babyface2.jpg

@Rodney_Harrison has a twitters guys

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/richardson.jpg
http://images.allansgraphics.com/picture/2/n/noel_appleby_the_fellowship_of_the_ring-7078.jpg

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/08/26/1225766/459650-ted-kennedy-dead-at-77.jpg

wtf Dwight Freeney is hosting Jim Rome's show today.

Bob Sanders to Jax

He'll be fun to watch in a new uniform for three weeks.

It's just a rumor, I should have made that caveat.

Shockey released by New Orleans

http://www.ajc.com/sports/saints-release-tight-end-848922.html

Rumor mill: Reggie Bush is next to go.

yeah, i think that seems like a given -- his option next year is crazy, it's something like $11m or w/e

tho i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to bring him back at a lower salary -- really, idk if there's a huge market for him right now & unless he just feels burned by them not paying him the option, there's probably not a better team for him to be on

Bush would also count $16 million against the cap next year. Must be the pro-rated portion of his bonus. He's just a punt returner at this point.

i think he has some use to the saints because they're willing to get creative w/ him -- other teams... idk

i would like to see the pats mess around w/ him

reggie bushhead

Bush in that Pats short passing game would be nasty to stop.

Since Bush can actually catch a pass unlike the rest of the Giants' runnning backs, he would be a nice fit there.

i dont think the giants would sign bush, but maybe im wrong; i do wish they ran more screens

bush would love playing in the ny market and might get the ol' three headed running monster going again; i would welcome him

idk if he would fit w/ the giants

i guess you'd have to keep an eye on the seahawks

I understand NO letting him go for salary reasons (if they do), but he's nowhere near done, and definitely not "just a punt returner".

honestly i bet he re-signs w/ them at a significantly reduced number

'and definitely not "just a punt returner".'

Are we talking about the same Reggie Bush?

Rams drafting technique revealed:

BY JIM THOMAS
Published: Feb 26, 2011 9:18 AM
INDIANAPOLIS -- St. Louis Rams general manager Billy Devaney said the team is aware of the situation and is gathering information on the arrest early Friday morning of team scout Luke Driscoll for public intoxication and public nudity.

Driscoll has been with the Rams for 11 seasons and is part of the Rams' contingent at the NFL Scouting Combine.

shades of pat mcafee. what is it about indianapolis??

Portis to be released by Redskins

;_; miss u CP

rip se jerome

bears lose tommy harris, hunter hillenmeyer

Both have been with the club a long time. Hillenmeyer went out this year on like the 3rd play of the season. Harris actually stayed somewhat healthy, but he has missed a ton of games in his career.

jordan todman is gonna be the best rb in this class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb4Mx5E6QnA

This is a good sign:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-dotyruling030211

weird

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Here's a shocker: Packers cut LB A.J. Hawk today.

gonna try to resign him for less cash maybe? i dunno how his contract's structured.

I don't get it. Does A.J. Hawk secretly suck?

he's competent but was due 10.5 mil under his current contract. i assume they'll offer something restructured.

10.5 mill????? OK now I get it.

I don't get it. Does A.J. Hawk secretly suck?

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, March 2, 2011 6:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He's not great.

24 hour extension, I guess. Not sure it will make a difference.

Mike Sims Walker just tweeted something ambiguous that sounds like he's leaving Jacksonville.

Hawk does not suck, but he hasn't really lived up to his expectation as a 1st rounder. He actually seems to be good in the "field general" role and seems to have a high football IQ; he reads the offense well, knows where to direct his teammates, doesn't sit out much and generally does not make mistakes - he's just not really a big playmaker. He seems to be getting better...2010 was his best season, and he's definitely a guy that the Packers want to keep around, just not at superstar money. Apparently he got contacted by a bunch of other teams right away, and I can see why. He's worth more to the Packers than any other team so I'm glad they locked him up.

Pretty sure Al Davis wrote the first draft of this article:

http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-an-Evolving-Defense/976e0e85-7da8-4c90-a489-e0ba8f6539fb

Possibly one of the most pointless articles I've ever read.

my brother ran into mike tomlin today while getting a sandwich

he said he's massive, also has a huge neck, couldn't properly turn his head

said he was jovial irl

did he hi five him or make out with him y/n

i don't think so :(

i would've asked him about dennis

*Kickoffs will take place from the 35-yard line (up from the 30). Touchbacks remain at the 20. Players on the kickoff team must be within 5 yards of the ball. Teams can still use a two-man wedge.

why fuck with kickoffs at all? who actually thought something was wrong with kickoffs and why? at least it ended up watered down but i am sure this is the thin end, no pun intended.

kick offs have been targeted i think because they're seen as one of the more consistently dangerous plays in the sport

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6414256

Dolphins Pro Bowl receiver Brandon Marshall has been stabbed with a knife by a woman in the Miami area and taken to a hospital, where he remained in intensive care after surgery Saturday morning, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Marshall's wife, Michi Nogami-Marshall, 26, was arrested Friday by the Broward Sheriff's Office on a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for the stabbing, a league source confirmed to Schefter. Nogami-Marshall remained in jail Saturday.

Marshall was taken to Broward General Hospital by car and underwent surgery late Friday night for a stab wound to the stomach, sources told Schefter.

No vital organs were pierced in the incident, and doctors have told him that Marshall will be OK in two to three weeks, sources said.

“

This is a very difficult time for Brandon and family, thankfully he will make a full recovery. We simply ask that his privacy is respected.
” -- Agents Kennard McGuire
and Harvey Steinberg, in a statement

"This is a very difficult time for Brandon and family, thankfully he will make a full recovery," Marshall's agents, Kennard McGuire and Harvey Steinberg, said in a statement. "We simply ask that his privacy is respected."

The NFL and the NFL Players' Association said through spokesmen they couldn't confirm details.

Jesus

WHAT THE FUCK

damn, i remember him giving interviews giving credit to his wife for calming him down & shit. jesus.

she must have been calming him down at knifepoint.

v. glad he's ok--no desire for another chris henry

or steve mcnair...I mean, goddamn.

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/new-49ers-gm-asks-if-team-can-use-draft-picks-for,20165/

this is a lot of build up just for the zinger at the end but worth it imo

Yeah, awesome punchline.

so, ummm, the lockout's over (sort of)

rlly?

yup, until the owners appeal

aka tomorrow

oh

;_;

:(

Just posted this in the lockout thread. Bummed that it will probably just be reinstated.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/26/sports/football/26nfl.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6428051

okay, really?

http://mit.zenfs.com/209/2011/04/brady-hair-.jpg

belongs in NAGL imo

Gus Johnson leaves CBS. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/richard_deitsch/05/05/gusjohnson.cbs/

worst part: he didnt get the nfl network gig either. they went with brad nessler, who isn't bad, but... i was so close to my dream booth of gus & mayock ;_;

so where is he going? COME BACK GUS!!!

i was so close to my dream booth of gus & mayock ;_;

It was not meant for this world.

tears in heaven

wau

bad enough that there's no football, now they're taking away our fave commentators from our not-season too?

Raggggghhhhhhhhhhhh

/shooting my gun in the air like Keanu in Point Break

BENJAMIN WATSON WITH A FOUR YARD CATCH, BROWNS FORCED TO PUNT!!!

^never sounded so good

:D

/shooting my gun in the air like Keanu in Point Break

― VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, May 5, 2011 9:54 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

http://30fps.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2011-May-7-16-17-0.jpg

<3

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

A-Rodg looking flyyyyyyy

Ol' Gus got the Fox job, so he'll be doing Pac 10/12 football I guess.

sigh

rip

How can you go from doing an NFL game every Sunday AND the NCAA basketball tourney to FOX (where he will not be doing many NFL games, apparently). They better have paid him really well, because this seems to be a crap career move.

at least hes got buffalo wild wings commercials

Last week, I went to NFL Films for another NFL Top Ten studio session. Trips to NFL Films are always exciting, even if the energy at the facility itself was a little slack this time. The NFL Films cafeteria, which has been mentioned once or twice in past Walkthroughs (Rueben soup), has been closed as a cost-cutting measure during the lockout.

Closing the cafeteria makes little sense. It's a pay cafeteria, mind you, and not a cheap one. It's run by a food services contractor that probably bid for the right to set up shop. It's not a high school cafeteria, so I can't imagine there's some kind of league subsidy in place to make sure Ron Jaworski doesn't have to pay too much for his pierogies. NFL Films is in a huge commercial park, and the nearest food is about a mile away, across a busy highway in a crowded shopping complex, so the cafeteria had almost no competition and a large clientele of hungry people (remember, many staffers are ex-football players, and many interns are 24-year-old, 230-pound ex-Villanova linebackers) willing to pay for a hearty lunch. How can the NFL not make money off a cafeteria in these circumstances? Why, they have a virtual monopoly on an extremely desirable product that sells itself, yet they claim they must shut down food service in the name of protecting long-term profits! I cannot think of any analogy here.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Wife-of-Miami-Dolphins-WR-Brandon-Marshall-arrested-on-charges-of-violating-restraining-order-061011

Updated Jun 10, 2011 7:54 PM ET
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP)

Miami Dolphins wide receiver Brandon Marshall's wife has been arrested again after previously being charged with stabbing him in the abdomen.

The Broward Sheriff's Office reports that deputies responded to a 911 hang-up at the couple's home Friday morning. Despite a protection order requiring her to stay at least 500 feet from the home, 27-year-old Michi Nogami-Marshall told deputies she had been living there while Marshall was out of town. When Marshall returned, an argument occurred, followed by the 911 call.

Deputies charged Nogami-Marshall with violating her pre-trial release. She remained in jail Friday evening. Online court records didn't list her attorney.

Nogami-Marshall was charged in April with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon after Marshall was stabbed with a kitchen knife. He has since recovered.

i don't really have anything to say about that. however, glad i clicked on this thread, i hadn't seen that picture of aaron rodgers <3<3<3 stylin

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/320093487.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1307921640&Signature=pd3Ro6OGsVQHWyVHw9jm933JtvA%3D

the hangover pt 3

Something for everyone
(This was from the set of a music video shoot for a band on his record label or something. I like to think this is how he rolls all the time irl)

http://yfrog.com/kiirttj

ugh I r dumb

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/be4a94e6.jpg

Good job, Leonard Pope:

http://americustimesrecorder.com/local/x1478025122/Leonard-Pope-saves-child-from-drowning

Moore said that Pope was the only person at the party who knew how to swim

Pro tip: do not host a children's pool party with only one person around who knows how to swim.

Good thing he was the one guy.

that story is oddly written.

Kerry Collins, you were a quarterback.

go with god kc

Collins used the offensive racial slur "nigger" in reference to black teammate Muhsin Muhammad while in a drunken state at a bar in Spartanburg, South Carolina ... Collins had stated that, in his intoxicated state, he thought the use of the racial epithet would help him and his teammates bond.

did it work is what i wanna know

rip kc

http://deadspin.com/5819427/

Exclusive: We've Obtained Audited Financials For The NFL League Office

heads gonna roll on that one.

did it work is what i wanna know

― brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:39 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

Let's just say it didnt quite go as intended.

Mike Vrabel retired, to coach at Ohio State. I liked this piece:

http://www.csnne.com/07/11/11/Vrabel-calls-it-a-career-starts-anew-at-/landing_patriots.html?blockID=540478&feedID=3946

http://img.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2007/01/siren.gif * BREAKING James Harrison is a complete dick * http://img.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2007/01/siren.gif

lol, some choice quotes from James.

when i saw the headline i thought this was gonna be so much better than it was. dude is committed to being an asshole but he has no flair for it.

that's because he's dumb as a stump

also, played golf in Michigan last weekend at my family reunion with a diehard Lions fan and he was "stoked" about the upcoming season. ah, youth

i told him i traded in the lions for the browns when i moved to cleveland and this brought the commiseration

Looking forward to another proud browns season for ya.

http://i.imgur.com/yQw4o.jpg

the thing that annoys me about the photo is that the nature of the photo makes it way too easy to overlook grandma on our left's AMAZING PATRIOT JACKET

look at that fucking jacket

I thought maybe it was Cuban at first.

omg

James Harrison is the stupidest man on the planet. rememember his reason for blowing off the White House trip?

Because Obama would have invited AZ if they'd won, iirc.

Yeah, one of the more moronic things ever uttered. Better get a better helmet James, your post career dementia is beginning a little bit earlier than expected.

Al Michaels dropped some serious White Whine in MMQ today.

When a hotel relishes its "hip and trendy" reputation, find another place to stay. Almost every one of these "hotspots" has a "too cool for school," 24-year-old male model wannabe in a black t-shirt who "greets" you at the front desk with terminal aloofness.

Should've bought the avocados.

After his retirement, D'Acquisto became an investment banker, but had his license revoked and was sentenced to 63 months prison over charges of investment fraud.[1] Later it was found out that John D'Acquisto was used by others and set up. All the funds related to D'Acquisto's purported fraud case were found in the hands of V. David Siniscalchi, Peter Vercoven, and Dr. Herbert Geiselman, all of whom are now serving time in prison for fraud.[2]

D'Acquisto has since received his Doctorate Degree in Exercise Science and Physiology.[3] [4]

he seems really obsessed w/ 24 yr old male models

I'm not trying to be controversial, but I will take Joe Buck over Al Michaels any day of the week.

nahhhhhh

Says more about my feelings toward AM than anything.

Al Michaels is great imo.

Well, when he isn't talking about 24 yr old male models anyway.

I never get the sense that he's bored, like Buck, or watching golf on a tiny TV set, like Nantz.

I don't mind the bored delivery of Buck (Once caught a regional Cardinals baseball game where he called the game from an empty luxury seat behind home plate).

But Michaels seems so sniveling, eyes darting back and forth, making weird old-man borderline racist rap jokes once or twice a year. Not crazy about his off-the-field GOP donations either.

I just assume that every white dude in sports is a Republican.

"In September 2004, during a New England Patriots game, Michaels commented on a coaching move, saying "After all, Massachusetts is home of the flip-flip." Michaels later apologized for the biased political comments."

Okay, include the on-the-air political bias.

Yeah, al michaels is a cockfarmer

i hate the way michaels stresses certain words that don't need to be stressed. plus yeah, he's a right wing prick.

joe buck is just a smug motherfucker. did u see justin timberlake troll him at the baseball all-star game?

"it's just not as special and unique as it used to be...that's just the way it is."

As someone who produced a three-hour sports talk show for five days a week plus live games on weekends, Joe Buck has my full sympathy. If you want a fan in the booth, get Dickie Vitale to shower you with jizz.

The last part of that sentence was pretty unnecessary, feel free to strike that from the record.

get dickie vitale to shower with you

yes . . . but in the same way that hanley ramirez really needs to run out his popups, joe buck should not publicly complain about making big money to talk about sporting events.

it's a business, but it's bad business to act like it's a business

yah idk maybe most pbp guys feel that way but almost all of them do a better job of hiding it if so.

Junior knows he'll never measure up, so why try to fool everybody?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4710946792_69ac605134_b.jpg

skip caray > joe buck >>>>>>>>>> chip caray

skip caray was the best. i quit watching baseball after he died. nothing better than him getting snippy with the post-game callers who were always asking about the infield fly rule.

http://twitter.com/#!/ChrisWarcraft/status/93372491627642880

Chris Kluwe <3

good dude

Before the former American football player Dave Duerson killed himself, he asked that his brain be left to researchers studying head injuries among athletes. What it revealed shocked the scientists

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jul/19/nfl-star-brain-injuries-destroyed

I can't believe I am looking at Dave Duerson's brain right now. what a devastating article.

Well, on that queasynote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/20/sports/football/its-fourth-and-inches-as-nfl-nears-end-of-lockout.html

...are you ready for some football...

According to NFLN the owners voted 31-0 to approve settlement of the lawsuits. Oakland abstained. Football is in the players' hand.

Not really. the owners apparently only voted on a "proposal". There is still fine print that has to be worked out, and that's why the players have delayed their vote.

this is like when someone "replies all" where they have no business to; lol @ "keep doing what you are doing where you are doing it" tho im sure that means, you know, dont go to your team facilities

Though an email went out to NFL players Friday afternoon telling them the player reps planned to meet Monday, NFLPA leadership sources told ESPN that no meeting is scheduled, and their plan is to continue to work through the weekend.

Text of the letter, obtained by ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter:

"Guys, To keep you abreast of the latest developments, we are reviewing the latest proposal for a settlement. Because of the passing of Myra Kraft in Boston, the NFLPA will not be making any public statements in honor of the Kraft family. Our recommendation is for everyone to stay put and keep doing what you are doing where you are doing it. We will meet again on Monday to discuss our options and the direction we want to go. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact us. Thanks for your patience. Your Player Reps."

Am I obligated in any way to be a Falcons fan once I move to Atlanta? Because I'm still kinda excited about where the Bucs are going and want to cheer them on.

I don't think anyone should be forced to cheer for the Falcons.

Signed,
An Arkansas Razorbacks fan

I hear that!

i know espn is full of complete idiots but

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6791346/winners-losers-nfl-labor-deal

top seasons from mlb & nba + nfl lockout has made me super cynical towards football

i had a revelation the other day where i still love & relish actual nfl games, but all the shit surrounding it bores & annoys me (and i'm not just talking about the lockout)

i'm gonna have to cool my jets frequently over the next few weeks

Yes, I feel so sorry for unproven rookies and their slimy agents not being able to make as much money as they used to.

Who the fuck is Ashley Fox anyway? Sounds like a stripper name.

probably just another dumb ex-jock

Am I obligated in any way to be a Falcons fan once I move to Atlanta? Because I'm still kinda excited about where the Bucs are going and want to cheer them on.

you are obligated to your hometown -- after that, choose the lesser of evils

i had a revelation the other day where i still love & relish actual nfl games, but all the shit surrounding it bores & annoys me (and i'm not just talking about the lockout)

i'm gonna have to cool my jets frequently over the next few weeks

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:51 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

how i feel about baseball.

i love watching the eagles play but could basically care less about the rest of the league. when does nba start again?

never :(

you should become a falcons fan because they're a cool team for cool bros

actually you shouldnt. maybe you arent cool enough for us!!!!!

Yeah, I'm not cool at all.

yeah, go ahead and root for the bucs. there a cool team... for clowns to watch and enjoy at the circus, haha!! boom roasted

:[

I was bummed @ lockout but now I'm like oh god preseason boring crap & dudes standing around talking abt fantasy football...I just want playing games & ILNFL lols <3

yeah, having the local sports radio news guys stationed at the training facility announcing the arrival of punter Reggie Hodges is the worst part of all this

ugh

@WillBurge
Will Burge
Ladies and gentlemen....Reggie Hodges is in the building! 1st player to arrive after the lockout
6 hours ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry

i had a revelation the other day where i still love & relish actual nfl games, but all the shit surrounding it bores & annoys me (and i'm not just talking about the lockout)

I do fantasy leagues every year and they are fun, but hearing other people talk about fantasy football is a lot like hearing people talk about their WoW characters or something. Any fantasy story last year that didn't involve Vick's 60 point game was boring as hell. For whatever reason some people love to brag about their fantasy teams nonstop and it makes me want to kill them. I met a guy on a plane and we started talking football and he goes onto a 40 minute tirade about how awesome his team was and how unlucky he was to lose in Week 6 and holy shit that flight seemed to last 8 hours.

Ladies and gentlemen....Reggie Hodges is in the building! 1st player to arrive after the lockout
6 hours ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry

― brownie, Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol of course it's the punter.

Any fantasy story last year that didn't involve Vick's 60 point game was boring as hell.

I benefitted from this last year, but it was against an opponent who'd already ditched their season and I beat a skeleton crew. Hollow victory!

I played against the guy who had Vick in that game and lost by a point --- until Jared Allen was given back four points right before Week 11 began, pulling me ahead by three points.

That dude was (rightfully) pissed.

I will say as far as fantasy goes that I may have had the worst 4th place finish in a 14-team league ever. I started out 0-6, getting crushed every week. My QBs were Romo and Derek Anderson. In Week 7, things turned around and I finished 6-7, including two wins in which I had the second-lowest point total for the week but got the lucky matchup. I got the 8 seed in the playoffs and beat the 1 seed b/c Aaron Rodgers went down that week. I still remember that roster - Reggie Bush (sucked), Romo (hurt), Derek Anderson (awful), Crabtree (who?), Derrick Mason (dissapointing), Eddie Royal (Broncos lol), Miami defense (puke), all that and I had the #1 pick, Chris Johnson.

Looking forward to a season without having to look at Derrick Mason on the waivers, for two reasons.

1.) Clicking on his stats usually brought up a window that said "Really? Derrick Mason? There isn't any other WR available this week? Really?"

and 2.) I know the singer's name is Dave, but still. Seeing D. Mason always immediately brought that song "We Just Disagree" into my head, each and every time.

Damn. There it is again. There ain't no good times. There ain't no bad times.

http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/girlfriend.aspx/

ok, here are my picks for the season:

NFC East: Eagles
NFC West: Rams
NFC North: Packers
NFC South: Falcons
Wild Cards: Saints and Giants

AFC East: Patriots
AFC West: Chargers
AFC North: Ravens
AFC South: Colts
Wild Cards: Steelers and Jets

I know, these picks are very unimaginative. Besides the Rams, Giants, and Chargers, all these teams made the playoffs in 2010. I'm just saying that these are the "obvious" picks now so I want to put them here for posterity and see how I did in January. Obviously no season ever really winds up as predicted, case in point the 2010 Cowboys who were supposed to be the first team to play the SB in their own stadium. Other predictions:

NFCCG: Eagles vs. Packers
Packers will repeat (fingers crossed!)
NFC West champ will have at least 9 wins
Carolina will lose every game
Tampa Bay and Detroit will both prove to be overrated
The Cowboys will be one of the strongest teams, but smothered by a great division

save those cuz we'll prob start a separate predictions thread

or you can just start it yourself if you want

actually that's a good idea

2011 NFL PREDICTATRON

my first post is a joke obv

alright everyone can ignore my thread

oh geez, I think I dropped the ball on this one

Anyone watching Hall of Fame stuff, ceremony, etc? The NFL Channel Sabol documentary was terrific.

two thoughts:

i. deion is an angel

ii. marshall faulk is a fuckin piece of shit

what'd marshall do?

sharpe makes a very touching, raw speech about the important people in his life; faulk just goes on after and talks about how great he was. hes such a fuckin smug blowhard, i really cant stand the guy

he's awful on the NFL network. It seems like he barely watches games.

Sharpe's speech floored me. And he shouted-out so many people who helped him get there...I guess from his analyst persona I didn't expect that level of humility...I was bawling by the end.

alright guess i'm gonna have to watch that, huh

It's a good'un

I think I agree with TamTam about Faulk's speech... His self-aggrandizement was kinda disappointing. Like, "my kids, sorry I wasn't around but I was being awesome and I was there in spirit"....I dunno, kinda rubbed me the wrong way a bit. Still do like him a lot though.
Enjoyed Sanders too, once he got to the meat of the speech, the stuff about his Mom was really heartfelt and beautiful.

Detroit: RB Mikel Leshoure tears Achilles this morning, out for year.

Ugh, what a bummer.

gonna be a few more injuries than usual like that due to lack of preconditioning is the common opinion

Ricky Williams to the Ravens.

xp there was just a graphic on espn that 9 guys have torn their achilles since camps opened

really starting to hate the redskins

still have to root for them obvs, but they gave a layoff notice to their official blogger for the past two seasons, so they could give the job to someone who is boring and pretends like everything is just wonderful with the organization and all the fans are delighted

a bunch of seats were removed at the fedex field to create "party decks" where fans can watch the game, they did this because the fans just LOVE these spaces. it has nothing to do with tickets not selling. noooo.. the wait-list for season tickets is DECADES long, we swear

xp that organization has always been pretty scummy, so that is really no shock

fuck, prince akumura already injured

Redskins are an absolutely despicable franchise.

xp there was just a graphic on espn that 9 guys have torn their achilles since camps opened

― johnny crunch, Monday, August 8, 2011 5:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This can't be true. Really?

When does training camp start in a non-lockout year? Are there going to be a lot of injuries due to lack of conditioning?

― an excellent source of vitamins and minerals (WmC), Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:59 PM (1 week ago)

Redskins are an absolutely despicable franchise.

yessir

news threads on their message board lately: player after player who landed with a different organization telling reporters 'wow, they actually know how to run a football team here'

i wish i didn't have to root for them. wondering if i should continue trying to make plans to attend the season opener. every season opener/closer vs the giants for the past few years has been a miserable beatdown. worse, this one is taking place on 9-11 so.. UH

who is their qb now?

john beck iirc

I saw a picture of john beck today and it blew my mind

http://images.tbd.com/sports/beck-ap-010611_606.jpg

wait really? that is what he looks like?

he's 30!

he was out of high school for like 7 years before he was drafted

his entire face/head is questionable tho, yeah

lol at that post

c'mon that guy is a soccer player

wau at the forehead on that guy

if that guy asked me out for beers, i would have other plans

he looks like he should be playing bass in a band called asia or china or japan c. 1984

he looks like macgruber

i thought it was macgruber

Is that Ethan from Lost?

http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/images/2/2e/3x01ethanrom.jpg

"Nobody's talking about us. That's right where we want to be. You look at us from top to bottom out here, there's a bunch of great players. And we don't need people saying we're the best right now, but when it's all said and done, I really feel like this team's gonna win the East." -Rex Grossman

well as dumb as that is, what do you expect him to say?

"The analysts are right - we are the worst in the East. But, you know, I really feel like we could come in 3rd, when it's all said and done"

actually, I don't see any way in hell they even come in 3rd

This just in – Nobody's talking about Rex Grossman.

*ahem* - you mean "Super Bowl XLIV Starting Quarterback Rex Grossman"

Why is anyone talking to him at all.

Eagles announce they have signed Giants Steve Smith

mother of god

wau

this is basically what i hear from my rabid giants fan co-worker (who never does any work) every day (except w/ added racist digs blaming every single thing on jerry reese)

What an offseason for Big Blue. First the lockout. Then 40% of the starting O-Line gets cut. Then Osi starts acting like a dickhead. Then the Sheagles are the greatest team of all time despite never winning a Super Bowl since EVER. Then Osi keeps acting like a dickhead. Then Plaxico signs with the fucking Jets. Then a key reserve cornerback tears his Achilles. Then Kevin Boss chooses Al Davis’s rotting corpse over Kate Mara’s smoking hot bod. Then the new TE Ben Patrick retires after like 4 days on the team. Then the 1st round pick practices for 2 fucking days before shattering his foot. Oh yeah and the best possession receiver in the game is still unsigned and 2+ months away from being healthy enough to even step on the field. Just leaves 1 question for Giants fans out there. ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

are you secretly friends with drew magary's brother?

This just in – Nobody's talking about Rex Grossman.

grossman has been a trending topic for the whole nation on twitteronia for two days now, after he said redskins would win the nfc east and everyone else in the world was all "LOOOOOOOOOL THIS GUY"

this is basically what i hear from my rabid giants fan co-worker (who never does any work) every day (except w/ added racist digs blaming every single thing on jerry reese)

it dawned on me in the past year that the undercurrent to a lot of online (and maybe sports talk radio, i dunno, i don't listen) banter about football is kind of.. excuse to be racist? the ones who do nothing but whine about how the players ON THEIR OWN TEAM are overpaid, worthless, lazy, terrible people etc

i think the eagles might pick off 10% of the passes thrown against them this year

xp i dont disagree, that awful fanbase is there. i more or less rmde @ most things he sez basically my dream 4 this co-worker is that his daughter brings home a black bf from college

he still brings up ALL THE TIME that the giants shouldve hired pioli as GM...who by all accts turned them down? and hasnt completely set kc on fire? & then i bring up oh and also reese's 1st draft class won the super bowl?

and hasnt completely set kc on fire?

Pioli is doing a pretty great job so far.

Going to iggles-ravens game tnite!

which will likely feature two of my team's ex-RBs :(

why did espn pick the absolute worst game to show tonight?

so they could hang out in SD?

yeah wtf

janikowski boots the opening kickoff through the uprights. Great rule change, guys!

so is this rule change for the entire season or just the preseason?

entire season

bc they might as well not even kick off anyone. just give the other team the ball at the 20. why go through the motions if it'll be a touchback every time?

well it won't be a touchback every time

yea, kickoffs have been from the 35 before. oddly enough it was a rule change intended to help benefit offenses that moved it to the 30 in the first place, back in 1994...

presumably this is meant to keep return men from dying?

yeah this rule change really sucks if you're a fan of the Eagles or Bears b/c it really takes away something from guys like Devin Hester and DeSean, but it does make sense if you contemplate how easy it is to get hurt when you have two teams of quick-footed 280-pound men running full speed into each other

the iceman looks incredible tonight

the funny thing about the kickoff rule change is that still only 31% of the kickoffs resulted in a touchback last night

ie, NOT THAT BIG A DEAL

that's interesting, i wonder if teams might kick it to the goal line on purpose in the hopes of pinning the team behind the 20. i dunno

Redskins
Santana Moss gets the #Redskins on the scoreboard in 2011 preseason...Redskins' fans yellow towels swirling at FedExFIeld now.

UH

did he maybe fumble in the end zone or something

Redskins' fans yellow towels

they are playing the steelers right now

the funny thing about the kickoff rule change is that still only 31% of the kickoffs resulted in a touchback last night

― shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2011 00:09 (3 hours ago)

uhhh, that's a huge touchback percentage dude. League average last year was something like 16%.

janikowski played that night though, so that throws things off.

Also a lot of the non-touchbacks were coaches telling their guys to run it out no matter what just to make sure that the special teams got reps.

cool article by freedarko dude on the aura of sublimity that will never leave vince young or reggie bush

http://www.sportsfeat.com/vince-young-reggie-bush-and-enduring-aura-of-college-football-greatness/

uhhh, that's a huge touchback percentage dude. League average last year was something like 16%.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, August 12, 2011 11:30 PM Bookmark

yea i know it's double, i read that same article, but still 2/3rds of the kicks were returned.

i mean hell the NFL did kickoffs from the 35 for years prior to 1994, and there were still kickoff returns for TDs. this isn't some 'brand new' thing. it's gonna increase touchbacks, yes, but it's not like every kick is going out the back of the endzone.

i was such a fuckin reggie bush stan back in the day, man

god I hope my Fins brass know what they're doing. but they probably don't.

http://twitter.com/#!/JasonLaCanfora/status/102408325299318784
http://twitter.com/#!/JasonLaCanfora/status/102413887701401602

having trouble picturing jason la canfora with a mohawk

lol, why would you name your kid "strummer" in joe strummer's honor and not, you know, "joe"

Hi, Mark Sanchez!

http://www.gq.com/images/sports/2011/09/mark-sanchez-02.jpg

Lol

"let's put a QB who finished with the 27th highest rating in the nfl on our cover"
"no that sounds terrible"
"he plays for the jets!"
"well, that changes everything!!"

Also who dresses like that to go to the football.

he came straight to practice from his rehearsal for west side story in which, ironically, he plays a shark

i can't think of anything interesting that could be written about mark sanchez for the audience of GQ, but then again that goes for most of their cover subjects

they should've put vick on the cover

Stafford must be pissed - Sanchez has gone to TWO AFC Championship games and had multiple features written about him, and all because he was just a little worse than Stafford. Meanwhile Stafford is toiling away and constantly getting injured for a team whose only recent significance is their mark for futility.

But then again, he did get like $65 million in guaranteed money

A-Rodg should be on that cover. <3

texans pass rush looks great. JJ Watt may make a huge difference.

THIS IS MY FAVORITE VIDEO EVER

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/jon-gruden-this-guy-video/

i was going "that's ridiculous, he says that A LOT MORE than that each season" and then i realized it was just from the first preseason game

ahahahah

can you even imagine what the end of the season supercut is gonna sound like?

holy shit I can't wait for that

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/18662147/view/1/producttypecolor/316/type/png/width/280/height/280/beckgruber-gold_design.png starts next game

I'm not saying he's great or anything, but how is Mike Hart not on anyone's roster? They haven't even done cutdowns yet.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110817/SPORTS06/110817012/-Former-U-M-star-Mike-Hart-joins-Eastern-Michigan-coaching-staff

who is THIS GUY beck and why is he the redskins QB?

Beck=some Mormon BYU castoff that my team curiously drafted in 07 and let go after they saw how horrible he was

lolllllllllll at this kid singing the national anthem

he woulda gotten pelted to death with beer bottles and coins if this were in philly

the pats look like they've been practicing all offseason

playing hard both sides of the ball. 5 man sack pretty lol

welp

are you ready for some TOUCHBACKS?!?!

i'm basically ok with the new kickoff rule, don't really care seems safer for the players and the eagles have sucked at returning kicks recently iirc

basically wanna kill myself after watching big ben aka the consentdenier pick apart our defense

well good thing the game doesn't count

well yeah it's just a bit disheartening

how long did the eagles leave in their starting secondary?

cuz leftwich did pretty well too...

how long did the eagles leave in their starting secondary?

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:46 PM (3 minutes ago)

i stopped watching after vick's second pick (u_u) but i know samuel was in for leftwich's TD, tho he wasn't the one who got burned (unlike the first TD)

wow Bradshaw is so drunk

yes... he sounds not sober

First half:

I had the Patriots for 10.5 quarterback pressures, eight quarterback hits, two sacks, one knockdown and three holding penalties (all drawn by Andre Carter). I keep those all separately, so a sack doesn’t count as a QB hit. That’s 23 total quarterback pressures on 23 drop backs (including three holding penalties). That is an unreal number. I think I counted three plays the Buccaneers blocked properly, and the first didn’t come until there was 10:55 left to play in the first half.

i guess the pats are a lock to win the preseason superbowl

they're almost guaranteed a place in the regular season on this form

guys, tonight is the Great Lakes Classic.

http://coltmonday.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/great-lakes-classic-trophy-winner-of-browns-vs-lions-preseason-game.jpg?w=576

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grePmMTwf6A&feature=related

that trophy looks delicious

local redskins announcers are telling us that THIS GUY beck is very impressive and shanahan has to be happy. and don't worry, cooooooley, lolron landry, torain etc will all be back. our redskins blog says the team is playing great, the fans are excited, and of course rex thinks they can win the nfc east. charles mann (<3<3<3) interviewing someone on the sidelines who says they'll make the playoffs

i dunno, i'm thinking 5-11 on the season

classic beckgruber

oh my god, larry fitzgerald just made one of the most amazing one handed catches I've ever seen.

he did that last week too! how many cardinals games have i watched just because of larry fitzgerald

@Redskins
Next week's issue du jour for #Redskins media: red zone issues for offense, 1-for-4 vs. Colts so far. Graham Gano has 3 FGs.

i think dan the snyder is running the skins twitters HIMSELF

i can't believe i'm sitting here at home on a friday watching dan orlovsky vs rex grossman

nfl network's around the league lookins on games are so great. Not least because hearing eisen call the games is way better than whatever goofballs are on the local broadcasts.

reggie bush looked shockingly great tonight

nfl network's around the league lookins on games are so great. Not least because hearing eisen call the games is way better than whatever goofballs are on the local broadcasts.

Co-sign, and not just because as soon as I tuned into it Aaron Rodgers threw a sweet TD pass to Greg Jennings. (Although that did make it pretty much the best thing ever)

that reminds me, i have to figure out why comcast killed my nfl network! it's the same cable deal i've always had and suddenly NO NFL

stuck watching rex grossman throw interceptions for the time being :(

That is horrible, Daria! It is apparently $6.95 a month for the Comcast Sports Pack, which I got so I could watch more Pac-10, but has since turned out to be the reason I get to watch NFL RedZone (and MLBN and NBA TV and such and such). It might be the best $7 I spend every month, tbh

lmao rich eisen, somberly narrating the end of skins-colts

"[half-mumbling] 6 minutes left in this game..... dan orlovsky, everybody"

(ball is snapped)
(orlovsky throws a pick)

^saw that a+

boy i hope indy has to play a couple regular season games without manning

me too

i'm so ready for the colts to finally go 7-9

beck did a great job managing the game

he says it was a lot of fun!

D. Stanton 6/8 80 10.0 2 0 145.8

btw did you see who had a workout with the patritos this week?

http://fujichia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/southeast-jerome.png

: o

honestly, with very few exceptions, I would watch pretty much any sport if it had a network as good as NFL network. Really makes me annoyed about how much worse NBAtv is in comparison.

nfl network is kind of terrible actually

mlb network is 50x better

I dunno brah, the draft coverage is so awesome. Are you just saying this because of Jamie Dukes? I'd understand it if he was a deal-breaker.

I just saw video of Pryor running at his pro day, and I'm just presuming the Raiders are picking him now.

why on earth did pryor get a 5-game suspension?

roger goodell is a psychotic asshole?

pryor should straight up sue the nfl, it's is entirely insane

btw if pryor really ran anything under 4.6 in the 40 he should be a first round pick in the supplemental draft

there's no way that newton is 30+ picks better than pryor

if pryor had been able to play for malzahan in his career instead of jim tressel nfl coaches would be slobbing his knob

pryor ran a 4.38 and a 4.41 at 6'5, 232 lb. What a monster. Switch to WR!

whats the order of picks in the supplemental? anyone else of note available?

btw there's no way he ran a 4.38 or a 4.41. that's like... olympic sprinter level stuff.

oh yeah isnt that what like chris johnson ran

shit my bad - 4.24 for cj, nuts

that i actually sorta believe since he's small

if pryor ran that speed at that size they should move him to tight end and never ever lose a game ever

he would have like 2,000 yds receiving

Megatron ran a 4.34.

at 239.

Usain Bolt is over 200lbs now I think, but he's gotten slower.

true olympic quality sprinters would run under 4.1 in the 40.

like a guy like Jacoby Ford runs a 4.28-- he's little, he's obviously super fast, but he's not even an elite college sprinter. It's a different kind of athlete.

actually I guess he was technically elite in college... But not olympic level. The guys who can get under 10 seconds are so rare.

I would say Jeff Demps, Trindon Holliday, Jacoby Ford are/were all legit Olympic-level at the 100m. 40 yards in cleats on grass is a lot different. Bolt probably wouldn't even be your best bet at going 4.1 because his start is a relative weakness.

xpost Demps has run 9.96, Holliday and Ford both 10.01.

they would certainly be olympic level if they weren't american (or Jamaican).

Demps is going back to Florida so maybe he can be the first under 4.2 before next year's draft. I think he's also in the USA team to run the 4x100m relay at the world championships next week, not sure though.

according to legend Bo Jackson ran a 4.12. I think that has to be incorrect, but he was special for sure. And his running form was very track-star-like.

pyror's 40 times today were unofficial -- he's probably up closer around 4.6, which is still nuts for a guy his size, but 4.3 would be like inhuman

The accepted standard to convert a hand-timed event to its automatically timed equivalent is to round up to the nearest tenth of a second – in this case 4.4 – and add .24 seconds. Now you're at 4.64.

so pryor's looking more at 4.6 or 4.7

Most football 40s don't go on a starter's pistol but on an athlete's motion. The average reaction time among elite sprinters (from the gun to the moment they exert pressure on the starting block's electronic pads) is about .15 seconds; for a football player with little track experience it probably would be closer to .2

oh yeah, it's all relative. He ran a 4.38 in "NFL scout time."

i.e. he's a slightly smaller, slightly slower Calvin Johnson-- a total monstrous athletic freak.

in any event, if this guy doesn't go in the first round of the supplemental draft, teams are nuts

i'd happily relinquish the dolphins 2012 first round pick for him. i think it's a worthy gamble. beats taking christian ponder at #12 or tebow in the first round or andy dalton in the top 50 at least

you can't convince me that newton is definitively better than him

i'd happily relinquish the dolphins 2012 first round pick for him.

o_o

Everyone's acting like 3rd round is the earliest he could go, but I have a feeling someone won't be able to resist using a 2nd on him.

http://i.imgur.com/JLyS8.gif

i... i dunno dude. at least cam newton can make some serious nfl throws once in a blue moon. pryor flat out can't play quarterback. he has almost no skills that translate to the position. i dont see how it's a 'worthy gamble' to try and build around a terrible player. even if he was better than newton, cam was a crappy 1st round pick (let alone first overall) so im still not seeing the relative value. pryor's a practice squad arm with some upside or a position switch candidate, any team that sees him as more deserves to become a laughing stock.

i dunno i think you kind of have to gamble w/ a qb... clearly the draft market has dictated that qb is the most premium position in football, and if ponder & locker are top 12 picks, i don't think it's crazy to say that pryor is on that level. provided of course that his background checks out & all and you're not drafting a ballooning godzilla like jamarcus. but you need a star at that position, i think pryor could develop into something close to that w/ good coaching. you can't teach the athleticism at least.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Arizona will sign WR Larry Fitzgerald to a record 8-year, $120 million deal that includes close to $50 million guaranteed.

well hello there

& the way i understand it w/ the supplemental draft, you might end up overpicking if your season bombs, or if you have a good season than maybe you got a good deal. but if the dolphins ended up right back at 15 like they were in this past draft, i'd feel totally comfortable getting pryor there considering where QBs went in the last draft

oh man ochocinco and southie jerome? i might have to almost like that team

i dunno i think you kind of have to gamble w/ a qb

some gambles are smarter than others! locker is a major risk with a ton of development ahead of him - i think it'd be better to use him as an example of how not to draft than as justification for making an even crappier decision. i do like ponder more, but not with the 12th pick. i probably wouldn't have taken any QB in the first round this year. and sure, you can't teach athleticism - but you're gonna have to teach this guy (gruden voice) literally everything else that it takes to play the position. i'd rather just turn him (or tebow, or locker) into a TE and draft someone with an actual pro skillset.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Fake-Brett-Favre-has-descended-upon-Green-Bay?urn=nfl-wp5506

dawgs if you really just feel for that bad lookalike.....srsly

cowboy terrordome kind of looks like a giant trilobite, i wonder if it has tiny little legs at the parking lot level

raiders give up a third round pick for pryor

Third round! Hmm. Thought he might go earlier. That seems about right. RIP T Pryor.

all abt the 40 time

still think it's a smart gamble

Yeah, it's not like they have a great QB there.

raiders should just go directly to the elite level athlete pool and wave that good nfl cash in front of some olympic teams. get some receivers and DBs who can do 100m dash in 10 secs. get some wrestlers and weightlifters for linemen. who needs football skills?

They've done that before tbh. James Jett, for example.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Raiders drafted players with fastest 40 times at the past 3 combines -- DeMarcus Van Dyke, Jacoby Ford, Darrius Heyward-Bey -- plus Pryor.

A Raiders source told ESPN.com's John Clayton that the team is looking at Pryor more as receiver than a quarterback at the NFL level.

a jacoby ford i guess i can deal with, if you have a real hard on for fast players. 4th round, take a punt. even 3rd isn't horrible for pryor, especially with the attention he had been getting probably inflating things. it's just the self-parodying pattern of doing it over and over that grates. and of course, the heyward-bey draft was just...something else.

heyward-bey was obv completely indefensible

Contracts of Campbell, Edwards and Boller expire at end of season. Terrelle Pryor might be only 2011 QB back in 2012.

new vikings signing:

DE Stylez G. White

luv that guy

http://a613.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_86efede18989cb0d11c4054cfc09b85c.jpg

raiders front office just wanted some time off next april

ClaytonESPN John Clayton
With the T. Pryor selection in the third round, the Raiders may be without No. 2 No. 3 and No. 4 picks in 2012 draft.

two of those moves are potentially defensible, the other was a trade for jason campbell

Campbell had a pretty decent year last year imo

a 4th rounder for Jason Campbell is a fine deal.

Raiders drafted players with fastest 40 times at the past 3 combines -- DeMarcus Van Dyke, Jacoby Ford, Darrius Heyward-Bey -- plus Pryor.

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 22, 2011 5:53 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

If only they'd picked Chris Johnson and Megatron too! I'm sure that bothers the hell out of Al.

btw the raiders will almost certainly get a third rounder as compensation for asomugha and probably a 4th rounder for Zach Miller.

Niners/Raiders preseason game - WTF? That's some mid-season level crazy.