11-12 ncaa football thread

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AMAZING

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that game was an abortion

tcu-baylor game has been amazing/insane

otm

griffin > kendall wright is a p nasty connection

yeah that guy is nasty

If Baylor plays like this all season, it will be fun to watch.

loltcu

this is completely ridiculous

HOLY FUCK

Now it's starting to look like the Baylor I remember.

College football, you guys!

!

omg

O_O

BAYLOR!

smh

GAME GOIN HAM

WE ARE AT FULL HAM

someone throw a pick six plz

anyone got a stream?

I think it is on ESPN3, if you have access to it.

oh I am at my gf's place and she got att internet, I guess I do have access to espn3 now, sweet

um if they get a fg there is waaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on the clock

OHSHITOHSHITOHSHIT

looooooooooool

what a beautiful and amazing game

welcome back college football

COLLEGE FOOTBALL1!!!

that was an unintentional 1

@MarijuanaCowboy J.R. Hood$tar
I like this Utah St football team #Underdogs

MarijuanaCowboy otm

I can't remember the last time a nat'l champ team got this gutted in the offseason. Frankly, I thought their top 25 ranking was unwarranted.

v nice onsides kick

for the love of god

this has so many mich-app st undertones, all utah st needs to do here is block a kick

utah st should've just let them score once they got inside the 5. lost themselves 30 seconds.

hmm nothing says college football season like a 1st day notre dame upset...

Echoes need to wake up imo

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yow

not sure where to post this but I saw some of the high school football game today between Glenville (OH) and Camden (GA)- Camden ended up winning.

Glenville is a good story as it's the first Cleveland public school to ever make it to the state playoffs (if I have my facts correct) which was a fairly recent development. The coach, Ted Ginn Sr., started out as a security guard before he became head football and track coach.

Also their nickname is the Tarblooders, which is balls.

This whole Texas A&M move is starting to get really nasty. Also? Fuck Baylor.

nasty in what sense

hearing a lot about 16 team conferences -> playoff system emerges

Baylor is suing A&M, in court, on some bullshit grounds about disrupting the "tradition of Texas football" and they're riling up all the other schools left in the XII to join them after they'd all already agreed to let A&M leave.

One of the columns I read about it makes note of the fact that Baylor was the first Texas school to jump the SWC ship and join the Big XII.

haha is there a law protecting the tradition of texas football?

No. It's a nuisance suit and apparently A&M, being a government institution, can't be sued (or something along those lines). But it sets a pretty ugly precedent for private universities who might want to bolt from their conferences one day.

huh, I didn't think of the 6 or how many conferences/playoff connection

it could work

this georgia/s carolina game has been incredible

melvin ingram swag

my nerves can't take this

notre dame v michigan has gotten crazy

damn, i totally missed all the sec today

LOL @ ND

hahaha omg that was completely insane, lead changed 3 times in about 1:30

refs will not get out of there if it gets overturned

o it stands

i hate notre dame so much

the bratty popular kids at my catholic school were all NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL 4 LIFE

awesome

QB robinson seems to be one of the most exciting players because of the frequent F IT WE'RE GOIN DEEP which results in an exciting INT at least 1/3 of the time

that last play was a delight. if only they'd have scored another on them

11 completed jump balls = 338 passing yards for Denard Robinson

He's terrible right? Exciting yes but goddamn..

JUMP BALLS UNDER THE LIGHTS

that was just the best game

looks like oklahoma's serious about pac12

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-bobby-bowden-florida-state-health-announcement-20110912,0,7837744.story

TALLAHASSEE -- According to a tweet late Monday night from a news anchor at a Tallahassee television station, former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden is set to make an "emotional" announcement on ABC's "Good Morning America." The tweet says it is about his health.

An email from the Sentinel to Bowden's public relations secretary on the matter was not immediately returned. Instead, an automatic reply was sent from her inbox specifiying that she is travelling with Bowden at the moment.

FSU officials also have not been reached for comment.

fuck, i love bobby

That was a nice switcheroo! http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=14506800

Apparently he HAD cancer in 2007, kept it private, and beat it.

i guess you could say he 'cheated' death.

listening 2 a radio interview w/ bowden, hes a delight. has said dat gum abt a dozen times. also said of paterno "i thought i could outlive that codger"

anyone else reading taylor branch (!)

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/8643/

Slavery analogies should be used carefully. College athletes are not slaves. Yet to survey the scene—corporations and universities enriching themselves on the backs of uncompensated young men, whose status as “student-athletes” deprives them of the right to due process guaranteed by the Constitution—is to catch an unmistakable whiff of the plantation. Perhaps a more apt metaphor is colonialism: college sports, as overseen by the NCAA, is a system imposed by well-meaning paternalists and rationalized with hoary sentiments about caring for the well-being of the colonized. But it is, nonetheless, unjust. The NCAA, in its zealous defense of bogus principles, sometimes destroys the dreams of innocent young athletes.

haha yeah I'm halfway through it, I've been reading like one page per hour tonight

I'd started reading his books on MLK a couple months ago but am only about a third of the way into the first volume right now

didn't expect him to write about sports but I figure if he did it's def worth my time

god the ncaa is just such a horrible org

it's thoroughly shady isn't it? and everyone cheats except like, air force? I don't closely follow the college game but I was killing time at a bookstore and actually read a chunk of that book "Blind Side" and what it's really about is boosters, wealthy alumni, lucrative college programs fighting to recruit players, etc. which was pretty fascinating, I had no idea

i think they should pay those guys. dunno how you'd do it but.. the system is messed up, how many are going to make it to the NFL where they're actually allowed to be compensated and meanwhile the schools make billions.

I prefer the college game but it's hard to feel into it w/ so much 'scandal' nonsense.

I got in a big argument over this at a dinner w/ some southern girl who's in my gf's grad school program. most people can't get past "but...they're students!!"

that said I feel like were they to be paid it'd have to be kinda socialist, cause otherwise you'd have millionaires and guys getting paid $50 on the same team.

but yeah I just finished that article, it's great, everyone should read it.

sometimes I try and even *imagine* a fair and rational way to organize college football, and it seems almost impossible, just on a theoretical level. I think essentially it would have to be a system comparable to minor league sports.

perhaps the NFL takes over, div 1 colleges get matched w/ NFL teams in their area and players are drafted out of HS? colleges allow student-athletes to take classes - if they want - w/o tuition but don't pay for their living expenses. there's a minimum minor league salary but the teams are smaller.

nfl has no incentive to do that tho & it would be so costly -- the system as it is is basically perfect 4 them

I'm not even trying to suggest something that could actually happen, just an alternate system in an imaginary world - and that's hard enough! the NFL would also have to not be a horrible organization first.

that said, if they had the opportunity to make a big cut of the college $ - already big, could be even bigger w/ a huge playoff - I think that's a pretty good incentive.

Superconferences -> playoff system -> D1 schools install different rules about pay/agents/etc than other divisions -> NFL maybe steps in to co-govern D1 only.

'different rules' is where you'd have to be specific

It'll probably end up where teams in Superconferences become their own division.

huh, Toledo with a home game against Boise State tonight

GO GLASS CITY ROCKETS

bam

the theory i've heard broached for years that i always scoffed at but does appear more and more to be a possibility is the major conferences expanding to 16 teams each and leaving the ncaa. the assumption has been that this leads to the playoff but what i wonder is does this lead to paying players? and what sort of system would be installed? and what's to prevent a school from cheating this system? and are there title ix implications w/ paying the football team but not the women's equestrian team?

landry jones looks like the truth to me

The backup qb for FSU looked like a twig.

ohio st's qbs were apocalyptically bad

miami's pretty much sucked too

lol womens tennis college football

ohio state had 36 yds passing tonight

Syracuse and Pitt going to ACC. Apparently the ACC wants to expand to 16, hoping to get Rutgers and UConn (but there aren't any talks yet). Big East and Big XII are not too far away from either crumbling altogether or at least being completely restructured.

Also, Texas has made a pitch to the ACC for consideration?!!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/

What is it with all of the fugly one color uniforms? Those Georgia things from the first game were terrible and I see West Virginia is going with the banana yellow uniform.

FUGLY!

they should really just wear those WEST F***IN VIRGINIA shirts popular among the fans right now instead

fsu losing @ wake forest is lol

FSU and Texas A&M being so trumpeted in the pre-season now looks o_O

typical scrappy Northwestern team is giving Michigan some big trouble.

robert griffin III 15-19 so far, ho hum

michigan being ranked #12 is the biggest joke in the world

2nd biggest. Texas at #11 was the biggest.

missed this sequence from uga vs tenn, it should be memorialized:

1st and 10… -1 yard Run.
2nd and 11… Hold
2nd and 21… Hold
2nd and 31… Hold
2nd and 41… UGA Personal Foul
2nd and 56… -1 yard Run
3rd and 57… 1 yard Run
4th and 56… 47 yard punt… 20 yard return. 15 yard personal foul against UGA.

wau, pretty sure I've never seen that happen.

Depth Chart: Wisconsin is on espn now -- its like the hbo nfl training camp show for college ball i guess

bret bielema up close in hd is something else

1st gis result for bret bielema

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can we talk about this?

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supposedly the dude runs off camera and then strips down completely and runs through the field

the dude running in and blowing the play dead is one of the greatest moments in the history of trolling

love how he does the timeout signal and then holds his hands out, ready to accept the ball

fuckin lsu

If I am an Auburn return man at this point, I am just taking a knee. Like, even if I catch it on the 2 yard line.

maybe just let auburn go home now b4 they all have concussions and severe depression

I don't want to get into the whole "LSU could totally beat the Rams/Dolphins/Colts/other crappy NFL team" argument but I feel like AT LEAST you kinda have to figure LSU's defense is totally loaded with NFL-caliber talent, which is just unfair against like a pretty good college team. And they're fucking up Auburn without Tyrann Mathieu, even.

hahaha, I went out to get lunch today and happened to catch the Ole Miss halftime radio show. The radio guys were so excited to be up by 10 and I was like "you eeeediots"

C'MON SPARTANS. Don't blow this

UW-Mich St could not have ended more insanely than that.

man

All is right with the world

so (4)Wisconsin lost and (3)Oklahoma is losing

upsets are nice

nice job Texas Tech

well, not so fast huh

game over

it was fun while it lasted

this thread needs a lot more action, see you next week yall.

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i'm kind of okay with this

i'm really excited about usc-stanford this weekend, you guys

robert woods is my fav player in college football

i'm excited about that game, but usc is gonna get killed. robert woods is great, though.

lol Von Miller did it

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odds on Suh doing the Tebow after sacking him.

lol

only if he's hurt

watching this Washington vs. Oregon game and they have 48 to 16 offensives plays each. it is the Ducks so they are winning anyways.

this USC vs Stanford has started off well

h8 both teams so much

why?

there doesn't seem to be anything offensives about Stanford

I am a cal fan

we hate a lot of teams but those are 1 and 2

wtf @ these Ohio State helmets?

oh that's why, makes sense.

NO

so pumped for a good game

can't believe USC is on top

expectation is a prison

this is turning ugly

Buckeyes turning up the juice here

fuck USC obv

go trojans (I think)

fuck this isn't suppose to happen

he's still gonna win the heisman, isn't he?

how the hell does usc have a good defense all of a sudden

great question. lane kiffin must be a hell of a motivator.

if luck loses tonight, trent richardson becomes the heisman favorite.

i love watching usc's offense

those last two throws were gross

huge play for Luck

it looks like they are getting into a groove

very nice

that was impressive for Andrew Luck

this guy Andrew Luck

amazing

what a play

amazing touch

Stanford should go for it

i know you should take the points but i would like to see a bally move

LOVE IT

and it worked!

Andrew Luck

it's not fair that Andrew Luck is athletic

yeah, same thing w/ aaron rodgers

damn

good game

this game is getting stressful

it feels weird to even see him get tackled

stanford's right tackle really got exposed this game

............they really ran wildcat on 3rd & 9?

that is the best play on third down?

haha

and a lucky field goal at that

Stanford could lose

the Stanford kicker really sucks, this is the third play where USC stats on the 40

ha, ABC just said the same thing

big play

official review on that play, it is getting out of hand

haha @ this Ohio State game

Badgers going down

FUCK

reminds me of peyton getting pick sixed in the super bowl

what a hit

ouch

led w/ his shoulder...

well you have two downs

or gain two and get four more

yes yes yes

stanford really does look like an nfl offense

should be one second left imo

nope

he went down in bounds looks like?

Knee was down in bounds! Ultimate DERP

lucky

lol i love this ref

"we're going to overtime" *cuts mic and walks away*

watching this game w/ miami fans who are acting as tho stanford are the dolphins

Hahaha Kiffin "But you guys I meant to call a timeout though!"

ahaha lane kiffin is such a baby

well is something in the stars for Stanford tonight

the tone of voice of this play-by-play guy is bizarrely sober

Ref tells teams they each get one more TO in overtime. USC declines.
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the tone of voice of this play-by-play guy is bizarrely sober

― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

dawg it is musberger what is wrong w you

stanford's power running game is unreal

I feel like this is a 50 yard field

wow what a great audible/throw

Would have been pretty amazing if the game got decided by a shanked PAT

yeah that was a great pass

robert woods is ridiculously good

USC has still recruited like all the best WRs in the past few years

damn it

yeah wasn't this lee kid the number 1 wr

yeah and they have two other guys -- prater & ambles -- that were both 5 stars & don't even play

the gap between these two qbs is pretty big huh

BEAST MODE

wow that was ridiculous

he did step out on the 2 yard line actually

this has been a great second half

enough w/ the wildcat

Kinda ridiculous how often Stanford is willing to let their offense involve Luck as a bystander.

like, arkansas and the dolphins both started using the wildcat heavily cuz the former didn't have a qb and the latter's just sucked all around. it's not necessary when you can actually move the ball.

yeah I'm cool with the trickeration and the reverses but the wildcat I don't get unless you actually look to throw it to luck more than twice a year.

how many OT can there be?

HOLY SHIT

bee ok, unlimited OTs, but after the third it's mandatory two point conversions

WHAT

Hahaha Luck should have just been like "HEY #13 WE ARE GOING TO THROW IT AT YOU"

YEAH

i guess it's after 2 OT, n/m

really, college football is so weird

yeah the third OT is mandatory 2pts

best football game ive ever been to, college or pros, was a 3-OT game at the carrier dome like 8 years ago when syracuse beat a ranked va tech

really, college football is so weird

― Bee OK, Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:07 AM (9 seconds ago)

i hate college football but the overtime rules are better than anything in the NFL, this is fuckin awesome

When they showed the graphic for last OT games for each team it reminded me of USC's last (2003 vs Cal), which is one of the most enjoyable games I've ever seen where I didn't like either team. (Aaron Rodgers did start that game, though--but he got benched!)

both of these defenses are totally wasted

yeah ot rules in college football aren't perfect but def better than nfl

yeah who likes the sudden death rule? owners, i guess.

this game has been sick

#thisguy Thomas the rb is awesome

wow that student manager/trainer chick for usc is banging

nooooo way

now that's a finish

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* Slow clap *

stanford is a solid #3 imo

WOW, what a game

tho Stanford got kind of lucky tonight

i want to know how andrew luck went to HS in texas and ended up at stanford

i hope it's just "he really liked jim harbaugh and is a really smart guy that wanted to go to stanford" and not "no one really realized how good he was"

maybe it had to do with education?

i want to know how andrew luck went to HS in texas and ended up at stanford

― J0rdan S., Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:17 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark

drew brees grew up and went to high school in Austin and somehow went to Purdue. Mack Brown and quarterbacks smh.

Stanford does have to recruit nationally because there's not a ton of people who get into Stanford, but per Wikipedia A highly-rated high school recruiting target,[5] he chose Stanford over offers from Northwestern, Oklahoma State, Purdue, Rice, and Virginia, after being recruited by Stanford head coach Jim Harbaugh.

LOL @ UT

-___-

this is too much

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according to his rivals recruiting page he committed to stanford in june of 07 (so 9 months or so before signing day) so it's possible that big schools just stopped recruiting him, but still

according to that page he was also only the 4th highest rated qb. And not 5 stars. oops.

at least blaine gabbert is in the nfl, the other two guys ahead of him ended up being busts

I think that's UT's problem btw, they're all about the the 5 stars and 5 star QBs are rare so you end up with a super stacked team without a QB.

what the hell is happening in this MAC showdown 2 nite. NIU just took two kickoffs back for TDs in the same quarter

14-7 and illinois has yet to run an offensive play

don't go out this way rockets

^espn2 for the lols

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this game is silly & fun, thank goodness for Tuesday night football

iirc Return of the Mac

MAC

63-60 in 4 quarters of football

watching temple-ohio for some reason.

Boise State to the Big East, apparently? I guess geography is irrelevant at this point.

probably university of Houston too

Yeah, it's ridic, but now BSU will be in an AQ conference and we can stop with the endless "will they or won't they makes the BCS?!" every year.

it honestly doesn't really change anything from what i can tell except that it gives boise some guaranteed money? i mean they're at the point now where if they went undefeated or have one loss every year that they're p much going to go to a bowl game cuz they will stick in the top 10 of the polls no matter what. and it's not like being in the big east is going to help them get to the nat'l title game or anything... their schedule is still gonna be pretty poor. idk, the whole thing is stupid & unfortunate. i would be great if they could go independent.

y do MAC schools have such terrible helmets

it honestly doesn't really change anything from what i can tell except that it gives boise some guaranteed money? i mean they're at the point now where if they went undefeated or have one loss every year that they're p much going to go to a bowl game cuz they will stick in the top 10 of the polls no matter what. and it's not like being in the big east is going to help them get to the nat'l title game or anything... their schedule is still gonna be pretty poor. idk, the whole thing is stupid & unfortunate. i would be great if they could go independent.

― J0rdan S., Friday, November 4, 2011 5:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

It will be nice for them to be in a legit AQ conference because then a school from a non-AQ conference will have a chance to make a bowl. The way it is now it's almost impossible to make it unless Boise falls apart and loses a gimme.

yeah but realistically how long is 'the way it is now' gonna last?

USC vs. Colorado is on ESPN

heavy shit @ penn state

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/5/2539996/jerry-sandusky-indicted-on-sex-crimes-against-minors-charges

yeah, about that..............

molestation of a child AT PENN ST'S ACTUAL STADIUM

It's also alleged that on March 1, 2002, a graduate assistant caught Sandusky and a young male showering together in the football locker room. The GA reportedly notified head coach Joe Paterno the next day, and Paterno notified athletic director Tim Curley shortly after. There's no mention of Paterno notifying law enforcement.

Kelly said the assistant, who was extremely upset about what he had seen, immediately called his father to relate what he had discovered. Together, the two decided that the assistant should promptly report the incident to head football coach Joe Paterno.

The next morning, the assistant telephoned Paterno and then went to Paterno's home to explain what he had seen. Paterno testified that he then called Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and met with Curley the following day, explaining that a graduate assistant had reported seeing Sandusky involved in sexual activity with a young boy in the showers at the Lasch Building.

Almost two weeks later, the graduate assistant met with Curley and Schultz.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said. "Additionally, there is no indication that anyone from the university ever attempted to learn the identity of the child who was sexually assaulted on their campus or made any follow-up effort to obtain more information from the person who witnessed the attack first-hand."

Instead, Sandusky was told he couldn't bring any of his Second Mile kids on campus.

espn definitely burying the lede and giving joe pat a total pass

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7192563/penn-state-nittany-lions-athletic-director-tim-curley-charged-perjury-sex-case

oh well i guess there was an earlier more sandusky-centric story on there

GO THE BEAVBS BITCH

― Princess TamTam, Saturday, December 4, 2010 3:44 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

osu are the ultimate upset team

as far as athletic legacies go, there's no amount of wins that overshadows letting your team's locker room become a child rape headquarters.

jesus, actually just read the complaint

matt p much otm

so uh. lsu-bama

this game should be fun

omg Alabama LBs

i like LSU tonight btw, not sure bama's qb is good enough yet to win this type of game

haha this game is so chippy

lebron is at the game

bob kraft is somehow a bama fan

geaux tigers

you have to catch those balls

well it didn't c ost them

college kickers

gotta punt there no?

saban should've just pinned LSU

lol how could the kicker act like that was close?

god verne lundquist is so lame

verne lundquist "auhgh" (breathes)

hes the best ur lame

yeah WTF matt

the streak of 10 straight months of me agreeing with every matt armstrong post has been broken

I started a FIRE VERNE & GARY fb group a couple seasons ago, so Matt's my people.

verne is fucking awesome. he's so cheery and uncle-like. perfect for college football.

i would literally kill myself if musberger & herbstreit were doing this game

again?

God, why do they not punt?

Mus & herb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Verne & Gary

saban is going to ban kickers from his program for the next two years

i like musberger & herbie a lot too but herbie kind of fell off as an analyst

musberger is the man

jord I'm gonna sincerely re-examine Verne so we can get back on track

Several times per season, Verne doesn't even know what city he's in or what teams are playing, Gary WILL find a way to kiss Tim Tebow's ass tonight, and Tracy is the queen of the stupid question. I hate this whole CBS team.

how long was that third field goal attempt? Seriously bro, just punt.

49 yrds

cover t rich imo

here we go again?

NOW WHAT

finally!

omg verne

"Going deep.. INTERCEPTED! (remembers which team had the ball)... NO, it's CAUGHT!"

ha

I don't believe anything they say now

ive heard him pull worse shit than that b4 & still <3 him

according to gary danielson they're playing for the national title tonight?

hellasloppy game

3 - 3 game at halftime was not what i was expecting

were you expecting 0-0?

before the game i would've taken the under on a combined score at half of 10.5

Both teams have been 2nd half teams all season, but I still don't think anybody's getting more than 20 points in this one. DEFENSE 4 DAYS

man why the fuck do I have pats-giants instead of raiders-broncos. I live in texas, isn't this tebow country?

if anyone is up for some second half schadenfreude, notre dame is losing to wake forest

i mean't halftime, not second half

BRAD SMELLEY
for the record

Fucking Mark Barron, y'all! I love that dude.

sweet superfluous spin move

morris claiborn>dre kirkpatrick

SMGDH

guys, this game is awesome

idk i thought possession goes to the receiver in that case

PICK

ok yeah i see that now

man, this game

p sick play by reid, thought that was a game over play 4 bama

guys, this game is awesome

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, November 5, 2011 9:58 PM (1 minute ago)

an awesome mess, but still awesome.

HOLY SHIT!!

the LSU punter is fucking unreal

honestly i refuse to believe that two teams with such shitty QBs could win the nat'l title

stanford could beat either team imo

eh plenty of teams w/ shitty qbs have won the nat'l title

if stanford goes undefeated there's no doubt in my mind that they should play the winner of this game and could beat the winner of this game

that's exactly what I fear most :(

after watching this entire game I've concluded that its the worst

if boise is the only undefeated left and they get jumped by the one loss winner of this game i might stop watching college football

I'm already almost at the 'might stop watching college football' point tbh

well you do root for cal

wtf is bama doing taking the ball into their students?

if lsu wins I will lol

bama gon lose

3 runs, fg, win

lolling at nick saban never gets old

nick saban losing to lsu is the funniest thing

and by lsu i mean les miles

nick saban losing is funny. always.

he really just got rid of that pitch

i just can't wait to hear about the team that scored six points and missed four field goals is the second best team in the country and should be in the national title game

i swear one of my pet peeves is announcers saying "well ya better kick it on third down just in case you screw up the snap" -- has anyone ever seen a football game where a team kicked a fg on third down, botched the snap, spiked the ball and then kicked it again on fourth? this has never, ever happened.

^all @ home xp

lol

how did alabama lose that game I don't understand

kicker conspiracy

an awesome mess, but still awesome.

― D. Boon Pickens (WmC), Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:01 PM (29 minutes ago)

I take it back, it was just a mess.

bamas defense is really godddamn good but yeah they should absolutely not get in the title game over an undefeated stanford or boise

EthanJSkolnick Ethan Skolnick -- Nick Saban loses. The world wins

Favorite part was at the end when Uncle Verne laughed at this dude:

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ha that dude was sooo bummed

u mad, doggie?

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/876911/SABAN-FREAKOUT.gif

i swear one of my pet peeves is announcers saying "well ya better kick it on third down just in case you screw up the snap" -- has anyone ever seen a football game where a team kicked a fg on third down, botched the snap, spiked the ball and then kicked it again on fourth? this has never, ever happened.

― J0rdan S., Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:35 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think i brought it up before but im pretty sure the playoff game that romo fucked up the fg snap was 4th d and if theydve kicked it on 3rd or w/e they prob wouldve still won

hon i don't think any player would have the presence of mind to do that, unless it was just an unbelievably bad snap. i'm p sure the holder would try and get the snap off.

yea prob not that specific but so much can happen where u still have the ball and then have another down. i mean its very much at the margins but you know

I'm probably an atypical Bama fan in that I'm not wasting my time cooking up schemes by which the team could still reach the nat'l championship game. I'm just getting ready for the Sugar Bowl.

Although, if either of Bama's pk's were worth a shit, there wouldn't even have been an overtime to squander.

Nothing on this thread about the horrendous Penn St. allegations. No way can Paterno survive this. Kind of makes free tattoos (Ohio State) and whores (Miami) sound silly.

Yeah, there was some talk about it upthread (under the cut now). The whole thing is vile.

sbnation is all over this story and calling for paterno's head (rightfully imo.) espn continues to not really have much to say, no headlines.

In the least-important college football story of the day, Houston Nutt's out at Ole Miss.

Poor Houston Nutt. I really do like that guy, but maybe being a head coach just isn't what he should be doing.

this is the full indictment for sandusky, pretty grim

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/11/07/sandusky_grand_jury_presentment.pdf?hpt=hp_t1

That link didn't work for me, but this did:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/justice/pennsylvania-coach-abuse-timeline/

a lot of the stuff in the indictment is so graphic that it is hard to really grasp the extent of what he did unless you read it, cuz most of the media isn't going to say "anal rape of a 10 year old in the shower" or "forcibly stuck his penis in the mouth of a 12 year old" in news stories

!!!!!!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582613575

yeah that's just like

I wonder how Dick Vermeil feels about writing that foreward now.

that's like if a late night talk show did a bit where they mocked up covers of a hypothetical jerry sandusky memoir

"I have witnessed and heard many warm exchanges between Jerry and his kids." I bet, Dick.

oh for the love of god

that wrestling story w/r/t victim 1 is just O_O

joe miller and steve turchetta seem to be the adult heroes in this case.

That indictment was one of the worst things ive ever read. Jesus.

oh btw he was working out in the PSU weight room as early as LAST WEEK

which is like obv after all of these people had been deposed. just insanity.

weird

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2545027/-jerry-sandusky-ray-gricar-prosecutor-1998-penn-state-missing/in/2304037

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2544996/jerry-sandusky-penn-state-virginia-second-mile-charity

that thing about the prosecutor is bizarre

i feel like it's always ex-nba players and mid-atlantic prosecuters who vanish mysteriously these days.

foolish old man Joe P has stayed too long at the fair. I mean, who knows if he would've been aware of this heinous shit at an earlier age, but at least it's possible. There hasn't been any reports of Paterno doing archbishop-like under-the-rug sweeping, has there?

no, he's being accused of following protocol but not doing enough considering the severity of the situation

the archbishop stuff happened higher up the chain

and i still think there's lots of questions to be answered re how far paterno did actually go

hearing that Joe P. is gone or going very soon

His press conference was apparently either postponed or canceled.

His usual Tuesday press conference has been cancelled. xp

yeah nyt is reporting that they're planning his departure

The grand jury document says that Paterno called the AD immediately but implies that Paterno was the one who began the process of downgrading the graduate assistant's eyewitness report, from an explicit description to "fondling or something of a sexual nature." Then it took 10 days before the AD met with the assistant.

such a perfect picture of the disgusting culture of college football

uh who would have thought that the thing that got paterno to quit was a paedo scandal

such a perfect picture of the disgusting culture of college football

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 1:05 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is a v good column imo http://deadspin.com/5857014/jerry-sandusky-joe-paterno-and-the-failure-of-adult-institutions-everywhere

utterly fucked up:

Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly on Monday specifically asked that a child, reportedly assaulted by Sandusky in view of a graduate student in 2002, contact detectives about the alleged incident. Kelly said Penn State officials never made any attempt to identify the child that the grad assistant saw in the showers with Sandusky.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7207321/penn-state-nittany-lions-sex-abuse-scandal-mother-alleged-victim-speaks-out

god this is such a shitshow

apparently his son is trying to set up a rogue press conference

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand alumni are burning diplomas

http://twitpic.com/7c6cy8

that'll...show 'em

wtf

this whole thing is just unbelievable

this is really nicely done

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state

such a perfect picture of the disgusting culture of college football

i think it's pretty much par for the course in all levels of pro sports, this secret world of men kinda shit. i remember at my high school, the QB got busted for drunk driving and the head coach tried to sweep it under the rug and failed. no consequences, he was a successful coach (and a useless dbag otherwise, he was my counselor and basically had the job so he could coach football.)

in all levels of pro sports

level 3 irony?

heard this classic thought process on sports radio:

"that child molester is disgusting and evil"
"now he'll get raped in jail"
"yeah, high five!"

kinda feel this deserves its own thread right now

yeah you're prob right -- there is a joe paterno thread on ile

"that child molester is disgusting and evil"
"now he'll get raped in jail"
"yeah, high five!"

― very public (bnw), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:16 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark\

people say this all the time when men (not just child molesters) go to jail and it really, really bothers me

i just read the timeline of this and it's waht

i mean in '98 he's under investigation, in '99 he "retires", in '02 there's a corroborating witness and last week he's still walking free using the penn state weight room

i wonder what effect this'll have on Joe Posnanski's book he's doing on Paterno - his blog hasn't been updated since. i have him on twitter and he seems pretty broken up and disgusted about it

http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/06/darkness/

i mean he must feel really weird about it -- he has enough cache now i think to get an advance writing about whatever the fuck he wanted, and he chose joe paterno, months before this happened, and obviously the entire tenor of his book has changed. it's odd.

seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&sns=tw

oh boy

Started the video, heard cheering, stopped it.

yeah ol joe leading a chant right now is ;_;

this whole thing is just so, so weird

also apparently the number of victims is up to 20 now

i mean he must feel really weird about it -- he has enough cache now i think to get an advance writing about whatever the fuck he wanted, and he chose joe paterno, months before this happened, and obviously the entire tenor of his book has changed. it's odd.

i'm wondering about this too, Pos is really one of the few sportswriters with some real intergrity, his book is gonna have to tackle this in some way whether he likes it or not

"Kylie Wong was on several years ago talking about a PSU player in the league who told Kylie, Paterno sometimes showers with the team and even lathered up and washed dudes backs."

from a houston area radio guy, lance zierlein.

I guess this has already gone around, but I missed it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5idJmdag50

Herbie's face OMG!

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_tall_is_Joe_Paterno

Answer:

Improve
5 foot 3 inches

jeezus, I hadn't read deeply about this before, that Sandusky adopted 8 kids.

The grand jury narrative is that Paterno brought the evidence to Penn State athletic director Tim Curley the next day. Then it took a week and a half before the graduate assistant was asked to tell his story to Curley and Gary Schultz, who oversaw the Penn State University police department. And then, the grand jury charges, the incident was buried and Sandusky was more or less allowed to maintain his office (though he was supposedly restricted from bringing any children into the building).

This stinks to hell and obv points to a mega-coverup by somebody, if not EVERYBODY, in this chain.

the fact that Paterno isn't retiring until the end of the season is insane, it really seems like all these guys are guilty of something

yeah it's weird. i guess they want to give him a final send off and are just flipping a middle finger at everyone else.

hearing that paterno is retiring today

From "Touched":

http://i.imgur.com/M6Zki.jpg

At the school's on-campus Berkey Creamery, the Sandusky Blitz ice cream flavor (banana and chocolate) was removed from the menu after the weekend's revelations. Peachy Paterno remained on the menu, at least for the time being.

ffs

Seven months ago!

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html

yeah i don't quite understand how this guy is the only member of the media to have written about this prior to the indictment being released

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/03/jerry_sandusky_former_penn_sta.html

there are actually a bunch of articles from local PA papers in reference to a grand jury investigation earlier this year, and even message board rumors dating as far back as summer 2010 (google "jerry sandusky rumors" etc) - i just don't think there was any real idea that the number of victims was this high, or that so many people at penn st were so complicit in it

http://www.nittanyfootball.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=57546&page=0&fpart=231&vc=1

Re: Jerry Sandusky & Rumors
#195150 - 09/16/10 07:03 PM

I've read some scintillating rumors on other sites as to how this or some other rumor will practically destroy our football program. I don't understand what Jerry did or didn't do on his own time, probably after his stint as PSU coach has to do with the program today? If he did something untoward during his coaching career at PSU possibly but not if it is a personal issue.

I'm not convinced Jerry did anything at all and will wait until the "rumors" have run their course and facts are provided as to the big deal whatever it is. Jerry is and was a class act. Hard to imagine him of all people doing anything that would bring a negative note to the Second Mile or PSU.

i would be curious to hear whether posnanski had heard any of this and dismissed it as horseshit - admittedly program-destroying rumors are kinda par for the course among high-level college athletic programs, but by the sounds of it people paying attention to the PSU program were at least a little aware of the potential implications of this for a while

breaking:

joe paterno is out immediately

Joe Paterno

foiled again~

sicc deep ball by boise

o shit tee see you~

2-pt conv wow

jeeeez PI call on 4th d

lol that the boise kickers season long is 32

nope lol @ boize

so much sports tonight, wish I could dvr 3 channels

luck tackles duck

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/TTECH-GINGER-KID.gif

oh he must LOVE living in lubbock, tx

i forgot that when oregon plays you always have to pay attention to the extra point

Irish helmets tonight are ridic

i kind of really like them

they're cool but p extreme. I always like it when they wear green, it's the shiny + shamrocks that's the business here.

man that TT kid looks so much like the guy from friday night lights

http://www.themovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/jesse-plemmons.jpg

lol

never saw the Boise game cuz tv said i have to watch every other school

oh hey NC state played good thing i have cable

lamichael

de'anthony thomas is in my top 5 fav athletes

dude does fumble the ball tho

LET THE BLACK MAMBA COOK

lool

The Owusu concussion retrospective package was pretty brutal.

str8 fire beautiful slant

go ducks

which he didnt catch

I've always thought the official criteria should be "did it look like a catch"

welp stanford is making chip kelly look like a genius

oregon is so awesome

being an oregon fan would be dope as hell

it would be cool except all the arguments you'd have about clothing

oregon are generally my #2 pac12 team tho

i think i said this earlier, but the best part about being an oregon fan would be the ability to wear all black to their games

man i'm gonna be pissed if there's an lsu-bama rematch

ou lost 2 ttech & ok st beat them by 60 but ou beating ok st does not seem far fetched @ all

lol so much @ musberger "he can run" -- *cue luck trips over his own feet"

this field a disgrace

Is it a little early to call Luck the #1 pick or am I wrong about this?

Obviously his receiving corps is trash right now.

Luck not being the number 1 pick is extremely unlikely. There's not enough season left for anyone to conceivably move past him.

Oregon's touchdown drives took 1:41, 1:57, 1:59, 1:32, 1:00 and 3:29. That final 69-yard drive qualifies as a plodding shuffle by Oregon standards.

There's some p questionable logic in here but not really following college football I was unaware that luck wasn't like the absolute nuts statistically http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/10033/andrew-luck-should-not-win-the-heismam-then-or-now

i think everyone was banking on "best player on the best team" thing

grantland on cfb is one of my least fav things tho so i'm not gonna read that

U have to tho

absent a serious collapse I find it hard to believe he won't win. statistics have never mattered, the heisman is more like the oscars race than the al mvp race.

dreading the big game tbh

trent richardson is going to win imo

so apparently urban meyer is definitely going to coach ohio state next year

will he wear a sweater vest y/n

will he field a competent offense y/n

also supposedly he's going for a superstar coaching staff, incl chris spielman and..... kirk herbstreit

lol really?

Spielman was the coach of the Columbus Destroyers, an Arena Football League team, in 2005. He coached one season, compiling a 2-15 record.

yeah, according to the sports by brooks report. and clay travis, who did a feature on herbie last week, says that herbie and urban had spoke about him becoming qb coach there.

hahaha

thats p crazy ~ 9 yr age diff in qbs btwn ok st & ia st

that 3rd d throw & catch was sick as hell

brandon weeden is old as fuck

what would ok st's record in the sec west be? 6-5?

eh

they're good... no better or worse than arkansas imo

it's a scientific fact that every team would be 2-10 if they played in the sec west. EVEN TEAMS IN THE SEC WEST.

ok st was favored in this game by +/- 4 tds

weedon eye bulge O_O

HERE WE GO CYCLONES DFENSE

lol endlessly @ ok sts run d

motherfucker

weeden really forced that pass on the INT. had a dude wide open underneath.

I love BCS chaos.

this really might not be that chaotic -- we'll see

true BCS will be if LSU loses

did OSU kicker really miss? i didn't watch the game, but espn highlights made it sound like it was controversial. did it get reviewed?

it didn't get reviewed, but even if it had there wasn't nearly enough evidence to overturn it. it was def really close tho.

enjoying this baylor-oklahoma showdown

i got usc-oregon & uva-fsu on

another upset day?

matt barkley is really good

elway should pick robert griffin and try to spin it as "we really need a backup to run tim's offense"

oregon cannot catch the ball tonight

baylor all of a sudden has a defense?

oklahoma is asleep once again

oh my god baylor is getting hosed by the refs here

oklahoma gets away with a flagrant horsecollar on griffin, baylor gets called for a debatable horse collar on the ensuing punt

THE BLACK MAMBA STRIKES

marquis lee is beasting tonight

god oregon is playing like shit

robert griffin moving up draft boards today

he's super intriguing

Baylor has never beaten Oklahoma

i guess that's not entirely shocking

It goes against every one of my insticts to root for a Lane Kiffin team, but I'm on the Trojan bandwagon tonight and tonight only.

has cliff harris been burned?

tennessee is going to lose to vandy

finally Oregon had a decent drive

USC is actually a good football team

their offense is ridiculous

USC is going to win, unbelievable

rg3 is like a less refined, harder-throwing drew brees

LET THE BLACK MAMBA COOK!!!!!!

that was a fun run back

the deandre way

i'm gonna steal that from u

acceptable but pls post this on next stolen post

put this in a cd binder cuz i'm stealing it

― Kerm, Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:31 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

god these drops by the baylor WRs...

oregon is so ridiculous when they get like this

this is going to be a great ending

andrew luck starting out 1 for 5 w/ a int that led to td

cmonnn

you guys I am all in on robert griffin 3

this is good news

UVA linebacker just snapped his leg clean in half

it looks in to me

some crazy shit is going on in this fsu-uva game

uva sacked fsu to end the game but got called for a facemask... fsu gets into FG range and with 12 seconds and no TOs left they call a pass play, like a little out route towards the sideline, the wr catches the ball but does not get out of bounds, fsu tries to rush on the fg team but time runs out. jimbo fisher is stunned, it truly looked like he had fainted, BUT WAIT now the play is under review because maybe the fsu player actually did not catch the ball?

i was right, Oregon is now only down 3

wow so uva had already run off the field and now fsu is setting up to kick the game winning fg

omfg, uva just got called for a penalty for illegally imitating the snap count

AND FSU MISSES THE KICK

EVERYTHING HAS GONE SO HAM

haha

fumble

lol usc

that fSU kick looked p close, they need 2 heighten the goal psts or something~

CRUNCH OTM -- every field needs like 22 story goalposts

if the black mamba gets a td here i'm gonna jump out of my window

what the hell was that play oregon just ran

maybe they were trying to get it to the middle of the field?

god, these teams always have terrible kickers

that's what they were doing kev

chip really gagged at the end there w/ his time outs

haaaaa

how does USC do that?

lool no one can kick

boo

really shocked that chip let it come down to that guy kicking it

I don't really care but as a former Oregon student I guess I should say "boo"

he got too cocky

btw oklahoma is gonna go for two to beat baylor

or not

robert griffin the third

holy crap robert griffin III is good

how is this guy not a top 10 pick?

if ponder & locker went in the top 12 last year, how is griffin not an automatic top 5 pick?

wow oklahoma's special teams are a bunch of retards

we're absolutely certain that andrew luck is better than RGIII? like, 100%?

lol did u know theres a team named 'samford'

I got accepted to Samford out of high school, but went to North Alabama instead. Still, LOL Samford.

i was all imna click on this stanford box score WAIT JUST A SECOND

I'm still amped up from that Baylor game

how the hell is Cal in this game?

tonight is why college football > nfl

otm

andrew luck pretty much sucked 1st half, that's how cal is still in it

and as my brother pointed out to me, this week was supposed to be the one w/ no good games

tonight is why college football > nfl

― shawty redmayne (J0rdan S.), Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:46 AM (10 minutes ago)

die

basketball is my favorite team sport but it's kind of a joke how much better college football is compared to college bball.

die!!!!

NFL is a fun way to kill a Sunday in the fall. College football is what I wait for all year.

You guys are nuts. NFL forever.

Capital One Bowl is frequently bonkers thus far. Including a end of first half Hail Mary.

lol @ uga

Ducks helmets OMG

black mamba has me leaning right now

It's called defense. Think about it.

no thanks

I was talking to Oregon and Wisconsin, but my position stands.

Big Ten is bringing some interesting games. This Rose Bowl is nuts.

That timeout that Wisc. burned on that kickoff is looking pretty dumb now.

yup

ALL OF THE HAM

fuck

tough miss there

ha I turned it off cause I thought it was over

I mean how do you miss that field goal

Do you think Kyle Brotzman and Scott Norwood are gonna wait until tomorrow to tell the Stanford kicker it's gonna be OK, or do they do it tonight?

oh man

OK so this is gonna get spotted at the half yard line, and OK St will most likely score. But theoretically if somehow they don't, I think it might be the best thing ever (if you like NCAA insanity)

Awwww drat

t boone pickens can die a happy man

hopefully soon

lol andrew luck sux

27 for 31 and 348, prob his best game all year

i can't believe Stanford lost that game tonight

stupid kickers

wth with that -22 yard run

wild td pass

"You guys run toward the end zone. At some point, I will try to throw the ball toward the end zone."

"500!"

This game got hilarious real fast.

these teams are not good

meshuga bowl

Refs got that right on review, and now the kicker missed. BLUUUUUUEEEEEE!

btw I'm not a usual Michigan fan by any means and don't really have a favorite in this game. I just like controversial things happening in OT.

another donnybrook

do all the good defensive players in the nation play for LSU and 'Bama?

y or n

what the shit is happening

seriously

http://www.npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2012/01/03/144615309/black-bands-black-football-players-and-frank-deford?ft=1&f=17370252

Is Frank Deford a dracula:

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/01/03/frank-deford_custom.jpg

there needs to be a. .gif w/ the kans st qb scrambling/stumbling & gus johnson saying "they call him the honey badger in manhattan"

Chip Kelly in talks with the Bucs to be the new head coach, and sources predict that Oregon would go after Chris Petersen from Boise State if Kelly leaves. Meanwhile, Boise State probably wasn't even looking so who do they wind up with? Boise State RIP